The Breakfast Club - Morray + Latham Thomas + Lisa Price + Cariol Horne
Episode Date: April 16, 2021Today on the show we had a variety of guest come through on the show with th6e first guest being the newest artist out of Northe Carolina, Morray who spoke on his come up, loving his wife and new proj...ects. Next we had Lathan Thomas and Lisa Price come in to speak on Black Maternal Health, ‘Love Delivered’ Program and more. And lastly they had Cariole Horne call in to speak on her recently winning her case after intervening in police misconduct, Creating New Laws and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to 2 women who were busted for trying to use a $1 million bill at a Dollar General Store! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Had enough of this country?
Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.
Or maybe not.
No country willingly gives up their territory.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
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get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just
don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the
power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
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Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.
You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts
that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love coming here.
I'm never not going to come here.
You guys are good to me.
In return, I'm always going to be good to y'all.
For a lot of people in the hip-hop generation,
The Breakfast Club is where people get their information
on the topics, on the artists, and everything like that.
In that aspect, radio is still important.
The Breakfast Club.
When my name come up, respect it.
Good morning, USA!
Hey, ma'am!
Hey, ma'am.
It's Friday!
Good morning, ma'am. Good morning. How was your day, ma'am. Hey, ma'am. It's Friday. Good morning, ma'am.
Good morning.
How was your day, ma'am?
Um, good.
It was a long, long, long, long day for me, but it was a good day.
I was actually cleaning my house all day yesterday.
You know how you have company and you're like, I got to clean this whole house just because I just...
It's been hard, like being home so much and things are accumulating
all my packages are getting delivered to my house
I have like a whole stack of boxes
in the front just trying to get it
together and then
one of my friends is here and she ended up having me up to
like one in the morning just talking
okay well that's a nice thing
who's your friend who's here
Ida Rodriguez
okay
you know she's on my Master Your Comedy show that's on Facebook right now for Who's your friend? Who's here? Ida Rodriguez. Oh, okay.
You know, she's on my Master Your Comedy show that's on Facebook right now for We The Culture.
All right.
Well, of course, I've been, you know, planning out everything for this car show, and I'm doing one in Jersey, so I've been planning that out.
So that's been my life for the last couple of days, making sure everybody has a great
time at these events that I'm doing.
Charlamagne, what's popping?
What happened?
Nothin'.
What are we doing?
A show?
Yeah.
You come in here singing R&B.
The other day you came in here singing R&B.
I'm always singing R&B.
So I just got to make sure.
I'm always singing R&B.
You got to find your little pockets of joy where you can, guys and gals out there.
Okay?
What makes you happy?
Did you set your intentions this morning?
Did you wake up?
Did you read your affirmations? Did you pray? Did you meditate? What did you do? Did you set your intentions this morning? Did you wake up? Did you read your affirmations?
Did you pray?
Did you meditate?
What did you do?
Did you get here on time this morning?
Did you say the yo, yo, yo, yo, yo?
Or did you come in here singing?
I feel like I'm on time.
Let me tell you something about life.
In life, you know, I can identify as whatever I want to identify as.
And guess what?
I am on time this morning.
Oh, you're identifying on time?
You want to tell me I'm not?
Ha!
You don't know my life.
Okay.
I am.
All right.
You know what, then?
You on vacation?
I'm on vacation.
Hey, man, if you want to identify as being on vacation, do it.
All right.
Okay?
It's your prerogative.
Well, it's Friday.
We got some special guests joining us this morning.
We have Lisa Price, who is the founder of Carol's Daughter.
Lisa Price, yes. And Latham's Daughter. Lisa Price, yes.
And Latham Thomas, who is a celebrity doula.
She's a doula.
She's not a celebrity doula.
She's just a doula.
Yeah, she's not just a celebrity doula.
As I said, she's a doula.
She definitely is.
My wife did not have to have a C-section for our third child because of Latham.
And the doctors definitely told her that she was going to have to have a C-section.
Latham was like, no, no, no, no, no.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
And because of Latham, we had that vaginal birth.
So I love Latham.
The glow, Maven.
Own your glow.
And also, new artist by the name of.
Because it is black.
And one more thing I was going to say.
It is Black Maternal Health Week this week.
So I just want to make sure you guys all know about that.
Because black women are three to four times more likely to die in childbirth than any other race.
More than white women.
And we have a new artist named
Marae joining us this morning. Carolina
Zone. North Carolina Zone.
That's my Carolina brethren.
Alright, well let's get the show cracking.
Front page news, what are we talking about?
You know, I wish I had some good news for you
on a Friday, but unfortunately
most of the news that I had this morning, there was eight people killed after a mass shooting in Indianapolis.
And we'll tell you what we know so far.
All right.
We'll get into that next.
Keep it locked.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ and V. Angela Yee.
Charlamagne Tha God.
What's happening?
We are the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Let's get into some front page news.
Where are we starting, Yee, Charlamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get in some front page news. Where we starting, Yee?
Well, let's start with this shooting that happened late last night in Indianapolis at a FedEx facility.
At least eight people were shot and killed.
And it's near Indianapolis International Airport.
Now, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department officers responded to that shooting.
And when they arrived, they found an active shooter incident. They said this is a tragedy but we will come through it with flying
colors. According to the department spokesperson they said the gunman had died and the public is
not believed to be in immediate danger. They said it was too early to tell whether the shooter was
an employee at the facility. We're still trying to ascertain the exact reason and cause for this incident.
At least four people were transported to local hospitals, including one person with critical injuries, with injuries consistent with gunshot wounds.
And two other people were treated at the scene.
No law enforcement officers were injured.
Other injured people took themselves to hospitals in the area.
And this Indianapolis hub for FedEx employs more than 4,500 team members.
It's the second largest hub in the company's
global network, according to a representative.
Yeah, we know what the cause is
most of the time, though, right? Mentally and emotionally
unstable people with access to weapons.
Yeah, you know, the sad thing
about it, you know, they were saying that
everybody had to check in their phones
when they go to work. So people
couldn't call the police right away
because they didn't have their phones on
and their phones were in the locker.
So you mean to tell me they work at a facility
where people check their phones,
but they don't check for guns?
Pretty much.
That doesn't even make no sense.
I'm telling you, all of these facilities have to have
metal detectors and stuff now.
Sorry, a lot of facilities,
but a lot of people have to have armed security.
That's just the world we live in.
But you know, in certain places,
you're allowed to carry a gun no matter where it is.
Like, even in certain venues.
And the only reason I know is because when I do these seminars and car
shows, it's like, I ask metal detectors,
it's like, no, this is an open carry venue.
You're allowed to carry. But even in those open carry
states, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of those
venues have the right to refuse
you with your weapons as well.
So it's like, you know, those are the type of precautions we got to take in 2021.
Well, police did arrive last night at 11 p.m. and they responded.
They came in and like I said, they believe there's there's no more harm that can be done.
Two employees inside the building at the time said that they heard as many as 10 gunshots.
And they said at first they thought the sound was from a car.
But after hearing more, that's when one of them stood up, Jeremiah Miller, and saw a
man with a weapon, he said.
He said, after hearing the shootings, I did see a body on the floor behind a vehicle.
They then left the building and watched as about 30 police cars responded.
They said, thank God for being here because I thought I was going to get shot.
Hey, man, we live in the United States of anxiety.
You can wake up every day and pick your trauma.
OK, every single day.
There's something that keeps us on edge.
And if there's not, you ain't paying attention.
All right.
And I just want to let people know who have gotten the vaccination.
According to the CEO of Pfizer, they say a third COVID vaccine dose is likely needed within 12 months of getting fully vaccinated.
And he also said it's possible people will need to get vaccinated against coronavirus annually, which I think is what they had already been saying.
Now, when it comes to Johnson and Johnson, they are saying that a man in Mississippi has been partially paralyzed and unable to talk after getting the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
He's paralyzed on one side of his body.
According to his family, he suffered a stroke
soon after stepping out last week to get the one-dose shot.
Yeah, it's over for Johnson & Johnson.
Okay, it's a wrap.
He's a father of seven.
He was rushed to the hospital.
They determined that he had a stroke
as a result of a blood clot in his brain.
And how many days did he take that shot?
Because I know at one time they were saying between six and 13.
How many days did that fall him?
Well, he stepped out to, yeah, he went to go get that one dose shot.
And according to his aunt, he said, they called me and said he had the vaccine and that something is wrong.
And then he was rushed to the hospital.
Oh, right after he got the shot.
So not even any time.
Wow.
There's a good story on Yahoo about how America is about to hit a vaccine wall and demand for the vaccine is dropping.
With or without Johnson & Johnson.
Now, they were saying that even in the Jacob Javis Center, which was one of the biggest centers in the country,
they said there's 6,000 open slots where people can get the vaccination and people are not signing up.
And right now they're saying
about 5,800 fully vaccinated people
have caught COVID anyway in the
United States. But you know, it's not 100%
effective though. No one ever said that.
Y'all said it was 90-something. Y'all said one of them was
96%. 5,800 out of how many
people have gotten it right? It's a small number.
77 million people are fully
vaccinated. Right, but they're saying
even with the vaccination,
you can still get it.
The vaccination is so you don't die.
Sure, but 5,800 out of 77 million
is a very small percentage.
Right, but that's what they're saying.
They're saying you still can get it.
That's why they're saying
you still should wear a mask,
but it's less likely that you will die
or have serious injuries due to COVID.
And don't say 5,800 is a small percentage
because you didn't say that when
people were talking about COVID initially.
Meaning when CNN started their counter at
1,000 people, 2,000 people,
3,000 people out of 300 something
million, y'all weren't saying that's a small percentage.
So don't do that with this.
People were saying it was a small percentage.
No, they weren't.
It was state of emergency.
Getting a vaccine does not mean you will not get COVID.
That's what they're saying.
They're saying that 90% accuracy is saying that you won't get sick.
I don't know what the hell y'all talking about.
It's 95% effective in preventing symptomatic disease in clinical trials.
I know one thing.
I got my steam horse on me right now.
There you go.
Bring me my orange juice.
What the hell y'all talking about?
All right.
Well, that's front page news.
Get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open.
Call us now.
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Hello, who's this?
Hey, peace and blessings, man.
How are you guys doing today?
Hello, Sean Stone.
What's up, man?
Oh, hey, Sean Stone.
How are you?
Sean Stone, my bad.
Sean Stone, how are you?
Hey, good day, guys.
How are you guys doing today?
Charlamagne, DJ Envy, Angela Yee.
What's up, man?
Y'all feeling good today yes sir peace king
how are you hey i'm blessed man right now i'm at work it's just sad what's going on in the world
right now you know a lot of people dealing with anxiety like myself you know i mean i'm afraid of
the police man for real for real i'm afraid i'm afraid of the police i'm afraid of regular mass
shooters i'm afraid of uh getting sick like it's afraid of getting sick. Like I said, pick your trauma, bro.
Pick your poison.
Which one you want?
I know one thing is I'm not taking that vaccine.
I'm going to continue feeding off of my CMOS,
continue doing the right thing for my body.
But, Envy, I need your help, man.
I need your help with my credit, man.
So I need that information for the credit dude.
Yeah, you can go to his Instagram, and he got a link,
and then he could definitely help you out. What's his name, though, on Instagram? It's the credit dude. Yeah, you can go to his Instagram, and he got a link, and then he can definitely help you out.
What's his name, though, on Instagram?
It's the credit dude.
Oh, that's his name, the credit dude?
Yeah, the credit dude, yeah.
Credit dude, if you're listening, Sean Stone needs your help, man.
I'm trying to do a big thing for this year, man.
Yeah, get to him.
He does people pretty well, and he doesn't just charge people.
He charges what he takes off your credit.
So if he can't get nothing off or if there's a problem, he does not charge.
And Angeli, thank you
Angeli. I'm not sure if you know that I
started my own business.
It's called Stone Tropical Limeade. I'm just
wondering if I could send you guys some limeade up there.
I'm very clean even though I'm in sanitation.
Oh, limeade. I love that.
And listen, you know what is crazy? I was just
talking about limeade because my grandfather used
to make homemade limeade all the time.
It's the best I've ever had.
So I'll be interested to see what yours is like.
I want to send you guys something.
I want to ask if it's okay for me to send you guys something.
I'm trying not to get sick, bro.
I'm trying not to get sick.
No, hold on, Charlamagne.
I'm avoiding.
I'm a clean dude.
I wash my hands.
Even though I'm in sanitation, bro, I stay clean, bro.
Please.
I would hope so.
Sanitation workers should be the cleanest.
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I really
want to get my business off the ground.
I'm a black man out here, and I'm just
trying to do the right thing in life, period.
You know what I mean? I ain't trying to run up
and hurt nobody. I'm just trying to do my thing
out here. Send it up here, bro, and we'll
try it out. You know the address.
Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Todd.
I'm calling from Cleveland. Todd, what's up, this is Todd. I'm calling from Cleveland.
Todd, what's up?
Hey, Todd.
I'm calling from Cleveland.
Got to get it off my chest.
Yo, Charlamagne.
Angela Yee, you pretty thing.
Keep doing your thing.
Hey, this is you, Evie.
You hearing Evie?
I'm here.
This is you, man.
That's your show, The Bachelor, right there?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
That is.
I've seen one full episode of The Bachelor, the very first one.
I didn't know that that was a first episode, but it caught my attention because it was Yeah. Mm-hmm. That is. I've seen one full episode of The Bachelor, the very first one.
I didn't know that that was the first episode, but it caught my attention because it was a sister on there that was hot back in the day.
I bet she still is.
That dude played, this dude, what's his name, Colton Underwood?
Yeah.
This dude knew he was a homosexual, man.
It was on the news last night.
That's how I knew about it.
He had to know he was a homosexual.
What I have caught, a little bit that I've seen from the back.
Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Can I say something?
You said that Mr. Underwood should have known he was a homosexual.
Of course he knew he was a homosexual.
What kind of statement is that?
He didn't want to accept it.
He said he tried to pray it away.
I didn't say he should have known.
I said he knew.
Of course he knew.
Yeah, he knew.
This wasn't new.
He didn't have an epiphany in the last few weeks or months or years.
The little bit that I've caught from this broadcast is that at least 10 of those honeys every episode,
and I'm talking about the women only, okay,
they're really trying to get a good dude and move on with their life.
Now, the rest of them might be just there to get on TV,
or they're kind of one way or
the other about whether they get one.
If they get a winner, that's cool, that's nice, but if they don't, so what?
They got on TV.
But at least 10 of those honeys on any given episode are trying to get a good dude, and
he played them.
He played them.
He played the one that he ended up picking.
He shorted that chick's family, and I'm questioning Whether the producers of The Bachelor
Are getting ready to play the audience
That watches that show
And bring that dude back on
And let him pick from a rack of dudes
Of course
And that would be amazing
Yeah, that's the plan
Yeah, I think so
I think that's what it's going to be
And maybe you and Envy can host it
Who, you and Charlamagne?
No
You ain't talking about me
You wouldn't host it Don't lie to me now You wouldn't host it if they, you and Charlamagne? No. You ain't talking about me because I promise you
I ain't going to host it.
You wouldn't host it.
Now, don't lie to me now.
You wouldn't host it
if they came to you?
I'm totally serious with you.
I would not host that show.
I wouldn't host it either.
I do not support
that kind of behavior.
I really don't.
What kind of behavior?
When I say that kind of behavior,
this is what I mean.
Are you listening?
I'm listening.
If you want to be a homosexual,
that's your business.
I ain't really got
an issue with that.
But that dude
was playing people. And even homosexuals, I'm your business. I ain't really got an issue with that. But that dude was playing people.
And even homosexuals, I'm sure, don't want nobody that got a history of playing people like that.
That's not even my reason for not wanting to host it.
I wouldn't host it just because I don't watch the show.
Yeah, well, I watch the show, and I would host it.
Anyway.
Yeah, and I'm sure it was difficult for him to come to terms with that.
That's why it took him a while to be able to openly come out.
It's not easy.
And Dramos, if you want to be a contestant, we can hook that up too.
Get it off your chest.
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Hello, who's this?
Man, what's going on, man?
It's Nick G, man.
Nick G, what's up?
Nick G!
Get it off your chest.
Man, I just want to tell y'all, man,
thank you for letting me get on here.
And a lot of people have been listening to our music, man.
Envy, I think you checked out my boy Ajax Stack's Instagram yesterday. Man, we just happy. A lot of good have been listening to our music, man. Envy, I think you checked out my boy Ajax Stacks' Instagram yesterday.
Man, we just happy.
A lot of good things have been happening.
Shout out to Mello for still doing his fireman joint.
And we got a new video dropping on 420.
Everybody go check out my boy Ajax Stacks, A-J-A-X Stacks, on Instagram.
And check me out.
I got a new song on my bio.
At Married With Children with two L's. And thank y'all, man. And check me out. I got a new song on my bio. At Mary with Children with two L's.
And thank y'all, man. I really appreciate it.
A lot of good things been happening. Yes, sir.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's up, y'all? What's going on?
What's up? What's up, bro?
I'm trying to give up all my money to these credit repair
companies. And
I was wondering if you could help me out.
And I've been trying to hit you up on IG.
Me and my wife, our credit score is like, well, mine is like in the lower 600 and up at five.
But I just got stuff on there from like years and years back, like seven, eight years. I still have
my credit report, man. I'm trying to do it like how y'all doing it, man. I'm trying to get some
property. Yeah, well, I'd send people to the credit dude. I just
like him. He's a good dude, and he
doesn't, he only charges for what he takes off your
credit. He doesn't ask for no money up front.
I like that. I think he's fair.
I use him for anything that I have.
He's got my credit into the 800s.
Well, actually, two of them are in the 800s.
One of them is still set like a 770, but
he works hard, and he's easy to get on the phone.
He has a strong team. I would say try him out on Instagram is the credit dude credit dude yes sir and i think it's t is it
th a or th e th e th e credit dude yep his name is jose okay thanks y'all all right hello who's this
this is jody hey jody get it off your chest. Okay, I have a very serious question for you guys, and I think everyone should hear it.
So I read on the news today when I was looking when I woke up that if you get the vaccine and you die afterwards, your life insurance is null and void.
After you get the shot, your life insurance is null and void.
I don't know if that's true.
No, I don't know if that's true.
Everybody need to do their own research on that.
Yeah, I don't know if that's true.
Good to talk to you, too.
Okay, look, I just read an article already saying that that's false information.
I do know that the COVID-19 vaccine isn't approved by the, what, FDA, is it?
Yeah, that's what it's saying.
Yeah, so it's not approved by the FDA.
If you take it, you're not able to sue any of the pharmaceutical companies
later.
That I know.
I don't know about your life insurance.
I just want to make sure
my family will be able
to take care of me
if something was to happen.
I think it's good for people to know.
Okay.
Well, thank you, my love.
It said it's false information.
I'm looking at
the insurance commissioner.
It says the public
should not believe
misinformation on COVID-19
and life insurance.
Hello, who's this?
Yo, this is Marco. Hey, what's up, bro? Get it off your chest.
Yo, I just wanted to shout out
y'all real quick.
Charlamagne, Envy,
Angelique. This is like crazy to even talk to y'all.
What's up, brother? Okay. Nice little
Friday shout out. Thank you, sir.
Now, one thing I wanted to get off my chest,
I'm a rapper out here in Duval,
man. One thing I was, was like kind of wondering like you
He said he's coming out there cut out here. You're like get to it, bro. Get to it. Get to it
Bro, what's up?
You what you want to wipe my ass real quick, what'd you say?
What you already know What'd you say? Man, I should've knew. What? What'd you say?
You already know.
Let me run a PR real quick.
Oh, rap buzz.
All right, Ben.
Remember, young and worried, not going to see no competition.
There's opposition.
They should be worried.
I'm about to diss them.
I've been to them with the plate.
The hero can't be descriptive.
They cash incentives to go and get it and go and get them.
The thing is, I don't want the cameras falling around to split them.
The house is with them.
The wolves can't go.
We're bound to kill them. I spent a bit of time with them. I've got dreams. I'm trying to live them. Young King.
Young King.
What's plan B, King?
Yes, sir.
What's plan B?
Plan B.
Yeah, what's plan B?
What else you got planned for your life?
You didn't like it?
You didn't like it?
Young King, what else you got?
I know there's got to be some other options on the table.
You didn't like it?
Guys, put some more balls.
He ain't hearing you.
Go ahead, bro.
All right, hold up.
I give you this for Angel E.
Tell him, man, I know you're on that freaking shit.
Chill out.
I haven't said nothing.
Go ahead, go.
I give you waistline licking, spice on neck.
I make boyfriends mad and girlfriends lit. I do give you waistline licking, spice on neck. I make boyfriends
mad and girlfriends lit. I do
what I want. You got a boyfriend?
Let's get the action.
Let me get the panic to the side.
My name is Eden. A gardener got a
line. Pure water, a river.
Young King, Young King.
Young King.
So there's no plan B. Like, there's nothing
else you want to do with your life.
What you don't like it?
Huh, Young King?
What else should I do, Charlamagne?
I mean, you can go get a trade.
You know what I'm saying?
Learn how to do something with your hands.
He's on the phone with trade.
You can learn how to install air conditions.
Give him some more balls.
You can be an electrician.
You can be a plumber.
You can go to school, be an engineer.
I would get a trade if I was you.
In Jacksonville, you'll never not
have money.
Charlamagne, who you know rat like me?
You definitely want to, but what's your
Instagram page? Let's go here some more.
Okay. What's your Instagram
page? Marco, you stay with it, Marco,
all right? Yo, check the
barcode and barcode the artist.
All right, Marco. Have a have a good day man but for real
think about getting a trade i gotta start leading stop leading these kids the wrong way man he's
gonna cry in the car tell him the truth not if you tell him the truth he'll be all right get it
off your chest 805-85-105-1E you got some rumors on the way you could rap him uh well let's talk
about nightly pop now lani love on, and she was asked by Nina Parker
if she's ever broken a rule in somebody's house.
So we'll tell you whose house she got tapped on the shoulder at.
Like, ma'am, you can't do that, ma'am.
All right, we'll get into that next.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Is your country falling apart?
Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Everybody's doing it.
I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
I am the Queen of Laudonia.
I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.
I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Be part of a great
colonial tradition.
The Waikana
tried my country.
My forefathers
did that themselves.
What could go wrong?
No country
willingly gives up
their territory.
I was making a rocket
with a black powder,
you know,
with explosive warheads.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Bullets.
We need help!
We need help!
We still have the off-road portion to go.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
And we're losing daylight fast.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions. but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams.
I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
For self-preservation and protection. It was literally
that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
This increment of small, determined moments.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best and you're gonna figure out
the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys,
like you've never heard her before.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty
on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip.
The Rumor Report.
Gossip.
Gossip.
With Angela Yee.
It's the Rumor Report.
The Breakfast Club.
Well, on Nightly Pop, Lonnie Love was on,
and Nina Parker was asking her about breaking rules
if you've ever been in somebody's house
when you were being nosy and got caught,
and here's what happened. I went toler perry's house what did you do you know he told me don't take
pictures but i was so excited you know what what happened because i was like looking all around i
said tyler ain't no way around you just sneak this little picture it was childish gambino he was
performing yeah and i was like i just want just one memory so i like tried to like do my
little phone like this and i felt this oh no and i turned around it was tyler he said like that i
was like oh so i got you you know when you say you only want one memory you're giving way more
credit to your smartphone than your brain because if you cool out and just enjoy the moment you'll
have several memories stored in the best place to have them and that's your mind you can't post your mind that is embarrassing i'm not gonna lie they tell you
don't take no pictures and then you get caught taking a picture it's just weird to say i only
want one memory like what do you mean you're there enjoy the moment you probably got several
i mean that was a memory that which you just uh explained you know what's so funny is that um
there are times when you're like, you look back,
you're like, man, I wish I had a picture of that day. But unfortunately, sometimes you're in
positions where it's just not possible. I like enjoying the moment. All right. Now, after 15
years, LaMarcus Aldridge is stepping away from basketball. He actually posted a letter about his
departure. He said, today, I write this letter with a heavy heart. My last game I played while dealing with an irregular heartbeat. Later on that night,
my rhythm got even worse, which really worried me even more. The next morning I told the team what
was going on and they were great getting me to the hospital and getting me checked out. Though
I'm better now, what I felt with my heart and that night was still one of the scariest things
I've experienced. With that being said, I've made the difficult decision to retire from the NBA for 15 years.
I put basketball first, and now it's time to put my health and family first.
I respect it.
Drop on the clues, Bonsford and Marcus Aldridge.
Never met the brother, but that's a very wise choice.
And he's letting me know he got his money right.
Yeah.
Not only that, but this would have been the year that they'd probably get a ring,
so he doesn't care about none of that.
He just cares about his health and his family, which is dope.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Pretty close.
I'm sure he cares, but that's what makes it a difficult decision.
And he's one of only 25 players in NBA history with over 19,000 career points
and 18,000-plus career rebounds.
Seven-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA.
Health first.
Health and family first.
I respect it.
And like I said, it lets me know he definitely got his money right.
Because if his money wasn't right, it'd be very hard for him to walk away.
Even with the health issues.
Now, our Brooklyn Nets also released a statement letting us know that they fully support LaMarcus' decision.
And while we value what he's brought to our team during his short time in Brooklyn,
his health and well-being are far more important than the game of basketball.
He played there for seven days.
How many days was it?
It hasn't been a month.
No, it wasn't too many.
All right.
Well, best, we wish him the best of luck.
And that is your rumor report.
All right.
Thank you, Miss E.
Now, front page news, what are we talking about?
Well, you know, closing statements are set for Monday.
Closing arguments are set for Monday in Derek Chauvin's trial.
So, you know,
he is not testifying and he actually invoked his Fifth Amendment right. And we'll give you some updates. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Now let's get into some front-page news.
Where we starting, Yee?
Well, they have just released the video of Adam Toledo. He was a 13-year-old
Mexican-American boy who was fatally shot by the Chicago Police Department
officer Eric Stillman in the Little Village neighborhood in Chicago
and the body cam footage was just released publicly
yesterday and it has released a lot of emotional
reactions with that release of the video.
Protests have happened now. This originally went down on March 29th. And now we've had a chance to
see the footage. So the family actually saw the footage a few days earlier just to be able to
process it. And then they released it for the public yesterday. But the body cam footage shows the officers at the scene when the shooting took place,
including the officer who fired the single shot that struck 13-year-old,
he's a seventh grader, Adam Toledo, in the chest.
This is just a really difficult thing to, I don't know if you guys have watched the footage,
but really difficult to watch.
I'm not watching the video.
I refuse to watch the video.
We're in a constant state of trauma here in America. I'm not watching the video. I refuse to watch the video. We're in a constant state of trauma here
in America. I'm not watching that.
So there were multiple 911 calls that were
placed. Officers arrived on the scene with body
camera footage and that footage
shows about 1 minute and 45 seconds
of the officer driving to the scene in the
Little Village neighborhood and he got out of
his vehicle and he was yelling
please stop, stop right effing
now to Adam as Adam appears
to pause.
And they told him to show your hands.
They said, hey, show me your effing hands.
Drop it, drop it.
And Adam does turn around, put his hands up.
He has nothing in his hands and they killed him.
And didn't they lie on the young man and say the young man had a gun?
You know, they're saying that on the video, he appears to make a tossing motion with his right hand behind the fence before turning to face the officer.
And that's when the officer fired.
So they're saying that he threw a gun.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Now, why would I trust people who can't ever tell when someone has a gun?
They mistake everything that a person has in their hand
for a gun like these people look crazy man i don't even have any words anymore it's like i told y'all
we in a constant trauma loop in america this is the united states of anxiety and some of us have
more things to trigger us than others and this is just another trigger in what has been a super traumatic week.
Yeah.
It really has, man.
I'm not going to lie.
That's why I'm like, man,
I wish I had some good news for y'all this morning,
but unfortunately I don't.
Now let's talk about Derek Chauvin.
He invoked his Fifth Amendment right yesterday
and the defense rested their case
in the case of him killing George Floyd.
Have you made a decision today whether you intend to testify or whether you intend to
invoke your Fifth Amendment privilege? I will invoke my Fifth Amendment privilege today.
Is this your decision not to testify? It is, Your Honor.
Does anyone promise anything or threaten you in any way to keep you from
testifying?
No promises or threats,
your honor.
What could he say?
What is that?
He could possibly take the stand and say nothing.
We watched.
And prosecutor prosecutors would have been allowed to cross examine him if he
did take the stand.
So the defense rested their case.
Prosecutors did call Dr.
Martin Tobin, who testified last week to take the stand. So the defense rested their case. Prosecutors did call Dr. Martin Tobin,
who testified last week to take the stand again for a short rebuttal against
the defense's medical expert.
And so now Monday is when they make their closing arguments.
Yeah, I'm nervous.
What do you got?
I don't even know like what's about to happen,
but I'm really super nervous about this because when I first started watching this trial,
I was like, okay.
But now I'm not so sure.
Yeah, I mean, it's a part of me that's like,
you know what, this one feels different than others,
but then it's another part of me that's like,
no, it doesn't feel different than others.
This is America.
A-M-E-R-I-K-K-K-A.
Yeah.
You know, so I don't know.
I really don't.
All right.
Well, that is your front page news.
All right.
Shake it off.
Shake it off.
Shake it off.
Shake it off.
All right.
It's a Friday.
When we come back, we're speaking with a new artist from the Carolinas.
And you know what?
This brother, Moray.
Yeah, Moray.
He brings a lot of joy.
All right.
I will say that.
He has a lot of good energy.
We need it right this morning, right now.
All right.
Well, we're going to talk to Murray when we come back.
So don't move.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Is your country falling apart?
Feeling tired?
Depressed?
A little bit revolutionary?
Consider this.
Start your own country.
I planted the flag.
I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of
looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water,
500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of
Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic
of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana Tribune country, my
forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their
territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my
God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
And we're losing daylight fast.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into
her dreams.
I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
And so I discovered that that is how we
get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on
growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have
grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose
with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy.
You want to do it, man?
I heard you do it when you came in today.
Good morning, everybody.
It's your boy, DJ Envy.
Song and music guy, Angela Yee, the Brethren Club.
Good morning.
Now you have to say we have a very special guest in the building.
I told myself, okay, we got a very special guest in the building.
It's me.
Morey.
Welcome, sir.
What's going on?
How you feeling, baby?
Bless black and highly favored.
How are you, kid?
Hey, I love that.
And I'm the same thing, baby.
Absolutely.
Now for people that don't know who Morey is is he has a bunch of singles out right now one of his biggest is quicksand
it has over 55 million views on YouTube and
We got your period to hear your story and you know one thing I would say about you
Just just doing my research. You're always smiling and always happy. Oh, we don't see that that much goodness gracious nothing upset you brother
You're happy all the time did upset me, but like bro. I ain't I that that much. Goodness gracious. Nothing upset you, brother? You just happy all the time?
It upset me, but like, bro, I've been listening to this show forever, so how the hell can
I come here and be upset?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, bro, I'm going to smile because what the f*** is Charlamagne right here?
DJ Envy?
He right there?
What's happening?
We live.
F*** you talking about?
Now, you started off in the church.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
The church played a good role in my life.
I ain't going to lie.
God is always first.
I don't care what I do.
I don't care what I say. I don't care what I say.
I don't care how my life is.
He number one.
And your mom made you sing, I Believe I Can Fly, which got you in the choir.
Because you do a lot of singing in your music.
Yeah, yeah.
She embarrassed me.
But it's cool.
That's what mothers do.
Right, right, right.
She put me in the most purplest suit she could find.
I don't know if she went to embarrassyourkid.com and ordered that shit.
But her and my grandma put me from the church and maybe sing
I believe I could fly R Kelly in front of the whole church and I was nervous until I people start saying you know
You better go ahead boy when you hear that
How many times your mom did you sing that song in front of company man?
Not that song a lot the songs we sing a lot was fill my cup
It's a got a feel my cup let it all the flow Okay, the gospel songs oldest song I grew up Jehovah Witness. I feel my cup, let it overflow.
It's a gospel song, it's the oldest song.
I grew up Jehovah Witness, so I wouldn't know.
Sh**.
You was heavy, too.
I can't relate, brother, but I love you.
You turn to the head of the choir.
Yeah, no cap.
My mother, when I was little, she ran the children's choir.
So you know I had to be number one.
That's my mother.
What's she going to say?
Oh, so it was nepotism.
It wasn't because you was the best singer?
No.
It was nepotism?
Come on, brother.
I don't know I wasn't the best.
Yeah.
So where did it turn left?
Because you were a gospel singer.
You were in the choir.
You went through the church.
And then it went left somewhere.
And then you went to the street.
And then you started running in people's houses.
So when did it turn left?
I ain't going to lie.
When I moved from North Carolina,
I moved to PA at like 12.
That's when, like, it was hard to get acclimated
to the city life.
And I ain't gonna lie, like, I started following everybody
because I felt like I had to fit in somewhere.
Why'd you move from North Carolina to Pennsylvania?
I left my mother, so I'm gonna say this first.
She did her f***ing best.
But, you know, it's hard when you're raising a kid by yourself.
I got kicked out of a lot of schools,
so we had to keep changing districts.
So we had to move with her sister in Pennsylvania because we had nowhere to go.
So we ended up staying there for like six years,
and that was the six years where I realized what the fuck I didn't want to do with my life.
I wonder, right, at what point did you realize your mom was just doing her best?
Because sometimes we hard on our parents until we get older.
So when did you realize that she was just doing her best?
When I had my own kids.
I started putting myself in her shoes, I understand.
She really did her f***ing best.
She could have done better with me.
Thank you, mama.
And what were you getting kicked out of school for?
Fighting.
But you played football.
You had the whole football team behind you. No cap.
I played football.
And then I was in the alternative school.
So I had to walk from my school to the other school to play football.
I ended up getting told by a teacher and headbutting him
and whatnot.
You like the teacher?
I was a very
explain the story.
We need details.
Matter of fact,
take your coat off
if you want to.
Let me get a little
comfortable.
It's going to be a little
Mr. Ramos,
I love you baby.
He's going to say it right now.
I f***ed up,
you feel me?
And I got love for you homie.
No cap.
But I was dating a girl.
She was in high school
and I was at
the alternative school so i was at the
alternative school so i was like i feel sensitive let me write her a little love letter you know
i love you can with the beat them cheeks up you know how you devise
you feel me can i beat those cheeks up nope check yes or no maybe
i was young so hey that's all i cared about so i was like yeah i wrote a little letter in my
mind it was super sensitive super sweet i folded up, put a little envelope writing on it.
So he's like, yo, what you doing?
I said, yo, the teacher said I can go ahead and write a letter to her.
Go ahead and chill out.
I done my work because I always got done first.
He's like, nah, grandma ripped it through in the trash.
I'm like, yo, bro, you know how I give it up.
Please stop because I don't even want to.
I don't because I f*** with him.
I don't even want to take a day with you, bro.
Like, I got to chill.
You feel me?
I wrote it again.
Boy, I tried to grab the other one.
I say, yo, bro, I'm about to peel you.
This is weird now.
And it's a teacher?
No cap.
It's alternative school.
Like, is it a gym teacher?
No, they're allowed to grab you, slam you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's not like a teacher.
They call it intervention specialist.
OK.
When a teacher can't handle you, they call the niggas to come grab you and slam you.
You feel me?
So that's what he was.
I'm like, yo, bro, you gotta chill.
Because we're not about to be easy for you like you're not about to just
throw me around so chill out boy don't understand i wrote it again he grabbed it and i was like
so you was one of them kids because they had me in these classes for a minute your discipline
was so bad that they put you in what like like the remedial classes no it wasn't it was um all
right boom i went to the the middle school and then like i was too bad for the regular school so they put me in the trails in the
back and then the trails in the back i was too much so they kind of built the school for kids
like me and i was in that school and i kind of couldn't graduate to go to like you go there for
a while and then they let you out go to the other school but i haven't made it that far did they
make you eat lunch earlier than everybody else do? Y'all bonding right now.
We understand that.
But I do understand those solid lunches.
So I definitely had a couple of those.
You feel me? Like going to court and eat like a damn sucker.
They had me in those for like a semester. Goddamn white cheese,
ham, bread, and white milk.
What do you think about that education?
Like if you had to say something for
parents now whose kids are being put in special classes, what do you think about that? Like do you think about that education? Like, if you had to say something for parents now whose kids are being put in special classes,
what do you think about that?
Like, do you think it's helpful?
Do you think it hurts?
What do you think needs to be done for real?
A lot of times when I act up, it was because of stuff that I was lacking in my household
or lacking in my life.
So, even, like, now I realize I was really just acting up because I really miss my pop
or, like, I really miss my family pop or like I really miss my my family
And I I was just looking for the wrong attention when I could have went about it the wrong way
I didn't know that until now
So I think parents got to understand like if your kid is acting up your kid's acting out
Try to figure out what's going on because it may be something that they're not telling you or don't know how to express
Before you just beat their ass like be on some like yo
Talk to me like it's okay. It's okay. You feel scared. It's okay. You feel upset. It's okay
But tell me why you're feeling this way.
Let's go through the motions
because at the end of the day,
a conversation can save everything.
That's true.
Now, listen, after you headbutted a dude,
what happened?
They put me in ISS.
I got arrested.
He ain't swing back up.
I mean, did he fight back?
I mean, of course.
They all jumped on me and pulled me around.
After that, they called the cops.
I went to...
I got arrested.
Went to the little jail thingy, whatever it could be.
They let me on probation.
I went to court again.
And I got locked up for like 18 months.
Damn.
I seen somewhere that you got your GED when you was locked up.
Yeah, I got my GED.
But I wanted to play football when I came out.
But I got kicked out of the alternative school, which was my last resort.
So I know that's going to happen.
But I had high hopes I could get my GED to go to high school but so you got your GED and thought you were gonna go back to
high school I didn't know I thought like I can get that and then get that too like a bonus like
this ain't the real diploma this ain't it let me get a pxk this ain't it oh god now in big decisions
the song big decisions you say you had to start taking care of yourself since you were nine yeah
why why well like I said my mom worked a lot so there's a lot of time like I had to start taking care of yourself since you were nine. Yeah. Why? Well, like I said, my mom worked a lot.
So there was a lot of time I had to watch myself at nine.
When you a black kid, you understand that shit.
Don't open the door.
Don't answer the phone.
Sit your ass down.
Watch TV.
There's lunchables in there.
Relax.
So a lot of times with selling candy for school, my mom wasn't there to monitor that.
So when they would give me the cash, I kept that shit.
Yeah, they give you them chocolate bars to sell for a dollar?
I didn't give them nothing.
They was pre-ordering.
I was getting the cash for the pre-orders.
So I didn't have shit to give you.
You were just giving me money.
And I'm not.
I'm like, yo.
Oh, my goodness.
How much is this?
That's like $1,000.
It was like $400.
I mean, it's like a million dollars right now.
I'm buying bikes and candy for the hood.
I'm flexing.
I bought an ice cream truck. He was loving me. That's how he came through. Burned the hood. I'm flexing.
Like, no, I bought an ice cream truck.
He was loving me.
That's all you can do.
Burn no cash.
I was f***ing up.
Balling up.
Buying everybody.
First Bob Icy's for everybody.
What's up?
Gumbo eyeballs and everything was lit.
All right, we have more with Moray.
When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We still have brand new artists from the Carolinas,
Marae in the building.
Yee.
Before quicksand, though, you had a series of odd jobs
that you did, right?
And so can we talk about that?
Like, just you having to work?
Because you had a family to support at the same time.
Yeah, like, everybody, like, you hear before they rap,
they was a big dope, dope head, big dope guys.
Nah, I had a 95.
You feel me?
I worked. Because I didn't know if I work cuz gotta
Want to do this somewhere? Yeah, three, okay
So I didn't want to get locked up again because I already got caught up on a we charge North Carolina
I'm not trying to go back to jail for this bull. This is weird
Like I want to just live my life for my family so I work
What did you work at hog plants and chicken play hog plants chicken plants?
What we're all saying a hog planted chicken plant the hog plant
I cut the guts of the pig, like the small intestine
with the...
Yeah, like you gotta
put it on a little rack
and when you cut it,
like...
Did that make you
stop eating pork?
I don't eat hot dogs,
sauces,
nothing in casings.
And what about
the chicken plant?
It was like a line.
They plucked the chicken,
cut the head off
and they sent it to me
and I just put it on the rack
and we just cut the wings
and shit like that.
So I was on the last... I didn't have to deal with the blood and shit. I did it with the last process. I thought it was already frozen and I just put on the rack we just cut the wings like that so I was on the last probably have to do with the blood I do
the last problem after they were frozen and you know I mean the dominoes
Donald's was a fire job I ain't a lot to you I made hella bread like you see how
I am like I'll go to your crib your don't know what's happening what hey
yeah but me good as hell what oh yeah I'm out I got $23 you probably have to
we come on now not a call center what did you do I'm out. I just got like $23. You probably had some weed, a little bit of weed. Come on now.
I used to buy weed for my customers.
Now the call center, what did you do at the call center?
I worked for PNC Bank.
I basically helped people with their accounts,
tell you how much you had in your account and what you spent.
Wait a minute.
So after getting locked up and all that,
you worked for PNC and they call you up like,
hey bro, how much I got in my account?
All right, look, I'm going to put you in my mindset.
Imagine being broke as shit the day before.
You got no weed.
You hungry as shit on your lunch break.
I could call you.
He got $100,000 in his account.
You got his social, his name, his first and last name, address,
everything you need to take this man money.
Oh, my goodness.
But you know you can't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus Christ, the seat was hot.
You never did it?
You never put your hand in the cookie jar a little bit?
I can't.
For a couple reasons,
I don't want it to be done to me.
Yeah.
Because I know I got
a hell of a karma coming to me.
I don't want that kind of karma.
Gotcha.
But it's like, damn.
Yeah.
Brother.
Damn, I'm hungry.
This account look juicy, bitch.
Like Wagyu right now.
I need this account.
What's the most you ever seen?
I seen,
it was a retired football player. I forgot his name. He had $1.7 million need this account. What's the most you ever seen? I seen, it was a retired
football player. I forgot his name. He had $1.7 million
on his account and he was complaining about
a $3 fee he received.
Whoa. A $3 fee?
You see? People like
DJ Envy, I didn't like them.
That ain't your money. Yeah, true.
But it's money that you knew was coming
out. Check images cost $3, sir.
You wanted a check image. $3, sir. you wanted your face of your old team on your check
so during that time with these ad jabs you were writing music and you were performing also right
yeah i was i was writing my music i was going to studio i was performing at little clubs i was
trying my best to still do it but when you got got a 9 to 5 and your money count for all your bills,
it's f***ing hard to pay for $40 studio time.
I was like, God, man, every time, guys, $40, I can't get a free day, and I come back and slot that s*** in.
You did Uber, and you also did construction.
Yes.
So how was Uber?
I wouldn't want you as an Uber driver.
You might be a little chatty.
Makes for a great interview.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But as an Uber driver, I don't know.
No, as an Uber driver, I definitely was.
Chatty as shit.
And people love you.
Because I found an all-A business.
I was Charlamagne in an Uber.
No bulls**t.
I want to know all the tea.
Who's going to be the donkey of the day?
I didn't know what.
No, I told my wife all the stories.
I ain't going to lie to you.
Babe, this motherf**ker is crazy.
These white folks is tripping.
These f**king drugs start kissing in my seat. Hey, hey, hey, hey, leave your clothes on white boy.
Put your shirt back on.
It's weird.
It's weird.
What's the wildest thing ever happened in the Ubu?
Some girl tried to suck her dude in my back seat.
You stopped it?
Of course.
Why you hate?
I'm not about to see nobody Johnson in my back seat.
One star rating for you, sir.
Oh, God.
As you should.
Now go ahead and skedaddle.
Skedaddle.
Now, you mentioned your wife.
You give her credit for help taking your rap career to the next level, right?
Of course.
My wife is, that's my rock.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I ain't always been the perfect man.
I ain't gonna lie.
I pretend like I am.
But that's my dog.
That's my homie.
That's my friend. That's my best. That's my homie. That's my friend. That's my that's my best
That's my everything and I gotta give her that credit cuz at the end of the day without her
I priced the right the same song I've been writing cuz everybody told me I had a bunch of yes, man
Oh, that's hot. That's hot. She was like is not
She was the one she was doing like that's whack
You could do better and I always she still do to this date like I got buzz now
She still be like nah, don't even record that but go, and she still do that to this day. Like, I got buzzed now. She still be like,
nah,
don't even record that shit.
But go ahead and try again
because that beat is hot.
Like,
I bet.
So what were the records
you made after that criticism?
Quicksand and Big Decision
was the first two records
I wrote after that.
And then after that,
I was like,
damn,
I think I found my flow
and then kind of like
progressed from there.
And how did Quicksand take off?
Moshe Leezy called me.
He was like,
well,
my director, the director who shot Quicks he was like um well my director the director
was like yo bro it's this dude trying to hit you up i'm signing you i'm like a bro it's probably
not even real like don't even worry about it he's like nah this look like he legit he don't
i'm like what get my wife number because her phone was on my phone was off i had no job
that's real no no okay when i my wife, she saved my life.
Bro, no cap.
I was a bum ass.
I don't care what nobody got to say about this.
You were a brother under modification.
Yes.
Not a bum.
I own my shit.
I have no problem saying she took care of me and that she was a man and a woman at times.
I have no problem.
It ain't the case now.
Right.
So, and I appreciate it.
So, like, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm high.
What was the question?
How did quicksand take off? How did quicksand take off? Oh how to quickly take off you said we were trying to call you called your wife got my hands over so yeah all right so yeah he called my wife on and some some some
afghan dude with like a coif and blonde hair was like yo bro believe in you but your song's
amazing I'm like who the f**k is this nah I said bro what'd you what'd you represent well I'm like, who the fuck is this nigga? Nah. I said, bro, what do you represent?
Well, I'm trying to start my label up.
Like, what's the name of it?
I don't got a name yet.
What?
Damn.
What?
I'm like, all right, cool.
But like, what's going on?
I sent you the contract.
I'm like, you want to send me a contract?
I'm like, I don't know what the fuck happened right now.
I was, and it sucks because at the end of the day,
like, I was at a point in my life where I felt like I was going to go nowhere.
I felt like my wife was probably going to leave me eventually because I had no job for a while.
I felt like it was really over.
And this shit called me.
And I looked up like, yo, this is supposed to be.
Thank you, God.
It's going to be.
I sent a contract to my cousin.
She a lawyer.
She didn't graduate yet, but don't worry about that.
She almost a lawyer.
Are you sure you're not in a bad contract right now? No, no cap. I didn't graduate yet, but don't worry about that. She read it. She almost a lawyer.
Are you sure you're not in a bad contract right now?
No, no cap.
He should have made you the co-CEO.
I ain't going to talk about the contract, but let's... How you put the money?
Look, I ain't going to lie to you.
I'm not going to talk about it.
All I'm going to say is this.
I know I'm in the best situation I could ever be in.
Got you.
Like, I f*** with this man to the point I trust him.
And when he called me and he told me the truth,
yo, you're not about to be rich fast.
I'm not about to give you a bunch of money.
We gonna work this shit together.
You feel me?
Like you put on 50% work.
I put in 50% of the bread.
Like, what's up?
I'm like, well, you want to put me that way.
Cool.
And then all of a sudden we put out quicksand
and then he put his hands on it and look at it now.
If he don't do right by you, just hit me.
We got a donkey of the day slot ready for him.
Don't even worry about it.
But I want to, hey, I want to go back to something, man.
Salute to your wife, because we have these conversations all the time about brothers
that are just trying to make it, brothers that have ambition, brothers trying to just
put themselves in position.
And how long should women stay with them?
The fact that y'all stayed down until y'all came up, man, that's big, man.
No, that almost never happens.
And she didn't have to.
She had plenty of reasons to leave me.
And she always told me, like,
as long as you don't hurt me to the point
where, like, I can't come back, I understand.
And now I understand I would never try to hurt you again.
Even though I'm in a spot and, like, no cap,
to all the females that's been in my DM,
please stop.
I love y'all.
But my wife gonna f*** me up for y'all.
So listen.
So was you cheating when you was broke?
I f***ed up one time.
No cap.
I did.
And she forgave me.
She didn't have to.
And I didn't even expect.
And my mom was already divorced.
We was married at the time.
We was already divorced.
I said, she about to leave me.
She stuck with me.
Granted, I had to work hard as f***.
But I was willing to take that.
I was willing.
Bro, no cap.
She could have been a d***head.
She could have cheated back.
She could have done whatever she wanted to do.
But she didn't.
That's got to be the worst feeling to hurt somebody that's done so much for you.
Bro, no cap.
When I look at my wife, I get very sensitive because I understand, like, that's my blessing.
Like, my wife is like, I can't even explain who she is.
I can explain that, like, she's my everything.
Well, don't move.
We have more with Marae when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I can explain that. She's my everything. Well, don't move. We have more with Moray when we come back.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We're still kicking it with Moray.
Charlamagne.
You know, I think it is my favorite record of yours so far, Switched Up.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Is that based on a true story?
Yeah.
Switched Up is based on a lot of events that happened in my life with people who show me
their true colors.
And people who show you their true colors, you got to believe them when they tell you who they are in the beginning.
They always show you.
It's always, you always have a first instinct.
Like, this nigga right here, weird as shit.
But, like, you let it pass because at the end of the day, you try to give them a chance and be who they're going to be.
But then they show you who they really are.
Now you're surprised.
Does that happen when the money started coming in or was it before?
Before the money?
Like, I think it was the worst for me as far as, like, people switching up.
Because when you broke, my f***ers don't got a sugar coat.
How do they feel about you?
Because you broke.
Who gives a f***?
Like, you a bum, you this, you that, you that.
I'm going to f*** with you.
Like, people will walk out your life easy when you can't give them nothing.
But I feel like it's harder now with money because they're going to say yes and say hell yeah because you got money now.
So it's hard to tell who switched up when you rich because and they don't
play that role while you around regardless you had to pull up you had
you pulled a gun out for your guy
say I always have my back and he know who he isn't you think there's ever any
chance for reconciliation?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
He wrote me the other day.
I'm like, yo,
what's up?
How you been?
I see you turning up and I ain't trying to write you
on some shit like
because you popping,
but just want to say good luck
on your success.
And see, that's the worst, right?
Because now you don't know
who you can trust
because you popping.
Exactly.
You never wrote me before,
but I know you heard the song.
Every homie that I ever had beef with or I ever like not
with them when they heard Switched Up, they all wrote me.
That's how I know it was you.
Like, the song was in general for every that ever wronged me.
But the that wrote me, now I know you don't
with me because I didn't tell you the song was about you.
You just wrote me.
Them hit dogs hollering.
What's up, bro?
How you feeling?
Hell yeah.
Yo, I heard Switched Up.
Who that song about?
Oh, you.
It's about you. It's about you because you asking. up who's that about nobody else acts who the song about so either dope was not you and you
wanna know who the songs about cuz it's about you not do you do you do you rep
the Carolinas of Pennsylvania what what what's in you to say snow cat Fayetteville
I put the veil because it taught me how to be a man but I also with PA because
it taught me what not to do.
I had my kids in Fairville.
I got married in Fairville.
I became a man.
I went to high school in PA and got locked up in PA.
They're stupid s*** in PA.
Not that I don't want to claim the city.
I don't want to claim...
Not that I don't want to claim the city.
I don't want to claim that guy.
I want to leave him where he at.
Because I feel like he did a lot of f*** to people that I can't say sorry for.
People are going to hear me talking like, yo, f*** this
and if I hurt you, I want to say
I apologize because at the end of the day, I was in a different
mindset than I am now. I apologize.
If people know anything about
North Carolina, North Carolina produces some
great lyricists, man. You're talking
Fontaine Poole from Lil' Brother.
You're talking J. Cole. You're talking Rhapsody.
You're talking DaBaby. You're talking about Josie Moe, who I love.
None of them ever reached out?
Like Cole or DaBaby?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I heard rumors you were supposed to sign a Dreamville at one point.
No, people sent a cosign thing, and it was like, oh, he signed Dreamville.
That's what always happens.
How did he cosign for people that don't know?
Basically, he just wrote, like, yo, super amazing.
I f*** with your s***.
And that's the cosign everybody's talking about.
Oh, and he wrote it on your Instagram? Yeah, no cap. And not to mention, like, I've that's the coast I ever talking about Oh, he wrote on your Instagram
Yeah, no cap and not to mention like I've talked to him after that and like or he's a solid ass dude
Like he didn't give me no like oh, I'm the king of Fayetteville. I'm this I'm he gave me like yo, bro
This is how you can survive in this game. This is what you want to wear watch out for this
What do you want to read everything like gave me real big brother advice for somebody?
You don't even know that he didn't have to do you didn't have the coast on me
But you want to archer away and did that so like solid and I always appreciate him for that real big brother advice for somebody he don't even know that he didn't have to do. You didn't have to co-sign me,
but you went out your way and did that,
so like,
solid,
and I always appreciate him
for that,
no cap.
I saw you tweet out recently,
too,
I used to try to protect
my name in situations,
but now I just want
to protect my peace.
Yeah,
like,
I feel like a lot of
niggas understand,
like,
they'll get tried,
or like,
oh,
or they got to play
the tough guy
in certain situations,
but like,
honestly,
you know boy you're talking to is a bitch for anyways, like, bro, I'm probably punching your shit tough guy in certain situations. But like, honestly, you know boy you're talking to
is a bitch for anyways.
Like,
bro,
I'm probably punching your shit
if it wasn't all your homies right here.
I'll probably fuck you up
if it wasn't in this club.
Like,
stop playing on me.
Be yourself.
I'd rather protect my peace
and leave.
But I really want to just be
a nice guy.
Like,
and I think people are,
they're upset
and don't want me to be.
But I don't care
because I have no reason
to be sad, bro.
Like,
I still live in the same crib when Mo called me. Like, I still live no reason to be sad bro like i i still live in the
same crib but when mo called me like i still live in the same holes in my i live in the same crib
bro you're about to say the same holes in your what in my my windows i got holes in my windows
i'm like you cannot have an ap on with
if that was the case i'd take take this shit off. But no cap.
But nah, like, I still live in this shit.
No cap to this day is humbling for me.
Because I'm like, yo, like, I really, and once I leave it, I'm going to take pictures and be like, yo, you can always go back to this shit.
Do you want to leave or are you not ready yet?
I want to leave the house because it's small.
But I want to stay in theville. But is it hard to live in that same house and people, you know, because when people see a record and they see $55 million, they think you've got $55 million.
Yeah.
So is it hard to still live there and you've got family and friends?
Well, there's no Carolina, so it's legal to carry.
So if anybody come to my crib, that's on you.
You feel me?
But I don't have that.
Fayetteville don't give me that.
Like, you know, they got love, bro.
Like, they show me.
When I go to the store to get back with, I get hugs, laughs, pictures.
And I love that shit, bro.
I love what I'm bringing to whatever I'm bringing because it's bringing me nothing but happiness.
How does the way that you write and record now, how has that changed?
Because I saw after you signed your deal, you deleted your old music.
You're saying it wasn't mixed and mastered properly.
And then obviously your wife told you, OK, you got to be more personal in your music.
So now how do you write?
Now it's like I write off emotions i let the beat
tell a song and i just write with the beat like if the beat come on and i hear like sensitive or
sad i'm probably gonna think of something i went through that's sensitive or sad and write to that
because that's what i feel is it hard to be vulnerable about about your feelings not in the
music not at all okay no cap i think I'm learning like I could be
sensitive and still be myself a lot of people think that is part of being
yourself yeah like you cry you you get upset are you sad you a bitch now you a
bitch for holding it in you're afraid of Tony we really are a lot of us got
fragile egos as men you know I'll do yeah if your wife tell you some or
somebody that know you for real it will hurt your mother yes sir everything then argue with his girl and she doesn't say something he was like i never wish
i did that damn like oh what are you gonna tell everybody my business like nah it's just it's
crazy but like we we all sensitive bro and just need to stop playing games and understand you can
be sensitive and still be a tough like you can still be both bro when you putting out a whole
project uh april 28th april 28th i got my mixtape coming out uh street sermons volume one's coming
out i'm trying to assume all original music yes all me no no hopefully no no samples on like that
any guests no just me i really i really want to just see what i can do i want to put the pressure
on myself to be like yo i want people to get more ray understand who more is before i start
getting on these features.
So it's not like, oh, more pop because of more pop because of he helped just just no more way first.
And then we'll see what the features like album coming out.
When again, tell him, give him all the information.
Instagram, Facebook, Black Planet, MySpace, whatever you got.
Tick tock all that.
No cap.
You can find me everywhere on the one handle more rate of one.
M.O.R.R.A.Y.D.A.
And the number one.
I got my mixtape coming out. Street Sermons, Volume 1, April 28th.
I'm trying to get these videos out as well.
And please check out my song, Quicksand.
It's coming out right now.
He about to drop it for y'all.
It's hot off the presses.
Keep it better than the rest is.
Keep it number one and don't f***ing second guess it.
Bow, bow.
Hey, Morey, it it's gonna be interesting watching
you grow man thank you bro
I see some bright things in your future
young king okay
you can do anything you want
he could have took
all of our jobs in here today
when he came in here and did the intro
let's not get crazy
well it's Moray it's the breakfast club
let's get into quicksand.
Let me know.
I have Flippin' Mars.
Flippin' Mars.
There's two real estate agents called Flippin' Mars,
and they want their lease back.
Earth is on a lease, y'all.
I don't know if you know it or not.
Earth is on a lease, and aliens are coming back to get it.
Okay?
UFOs being videotaped and the government confirming that there are UFOs are becoming more and more common.
You should pay attention.
Okay.
Our cousins are here.
Well, I'd like to buy some property in Mars.
Let me hook me up with a Mars real estate agent if you know one, all right?
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk.
Lizzo!
This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. It is rumor Lizzo. This is the rumor report with Angela.
Lizzo was on Instagram and she wants to make sure that you know that it's very important to commit
to at least one intentional act of anti-racism a day. Here's what she said.
Putting BLM in your bio and posting a black square
is no longer the bare minimum. You have to do an intentional act of anti-racism every single day.
Have you donated to bail out a protester? Have you bought from a black business, an Asian business?
Have you bought from any person of color today? Have you seen someone getting harassed for the
color of their skin and intentionally went over there and stopped it?
Have you educated yourself?
This is the new bare minimum, everybody.
Dropping the clues bombs for Lizzo.
Not mad at none of that.
I demand that all white people use their privilege to combat prejudice.
I agree with her.
I like it.
Not mad at it at all.
All right.
Now, yesterday we were talking about the former Bachelor star Colton Underwood and how he
had came out as gay and he did an emotional interview on Good Morning America with Robin
Roberts.
Well, according to Variety now, we told you before that he's starring in a new reality
show.
Well, what is it about?
It's an unscripted series that focuses on Colton Underwood living his life as an out
gay man for the first time.
And he also has a gay guide on the show.
And that guy,
somebody that's going to guide him through this.
Right.
And the person is actually Gus Kenworthy.
And he is a skier,
an Olympian skier.
And he's going to be the perfect mentor for Colton Underwood because he's
gone through it too.
He's openly gay. They have a lot of shared interests. And that's the information we have so far about this show. And
Colton has since wiped his Instagram page clean. And then he shared a collage of Polaroid shots
showing him posing with a horse, running with a dog and drinking coffee and things like that,
posing with friends. He said, I have a lot to learn, but I've come a long way.
To the people in my corner, I love you.
Without you, I wouldn't be here.
See, it's a big deal.
He's going through a lot right now,
and he's going to share that journey with you on Netflix.
All right, Javante Davis is going to be headlining
Showtime's spring-summer boxing schedule,
so get ready for that.
He is going to be fighting Mario Barrios on June 26.
And they just announced that yesterday for Showtime. So get ready. And another person I
want to talk about, our girl Clarissa Shields. She's going to make her MMA debut and that's
going to be on June 10th. So she has the date. Yes, she has an opponent. She's going to be
fighting Brittany Elkin on June 10th, according to the Associated Press.
It's going to be in Atlantic City, by the way.
All right. Salute to Clarissa Shields. That's the homie.
Like seeing Javante Davis fight, too.
So, dang, I just dawned
on me that Colton Underwood has a whole show coming out on
Netflix. That's what she said. I know.
Wow. So this is
all more publicity for that show.
By the way, you
can't really trust this guy. I just want y'all to know that.
You can't trust this guy.
He did what he had to do to be on
The Bachelor, right? And now he's
coming out and saying this, and now he's got a show
coming out on Netflix. How do we know he's even
really gay? He might just be doing that for the Netflix show.
Well, I'm sure that it's difficult.
A lot of people who haven't...
Think of how many people haven't come out and haven't
come to terms with the fact that they're gay and don't want people to know and
think that okay i'm gonna just pray it away like he said he tried to do no doubt all i'm simply
saying is i don't know if we can trust this guy because he played a role to be on the bachelor
yes the show he played a role to be on the bachelor and now he's just announced this netflix
show he could be playing another role now to be on the netflix show that's all i'm saying but think
about how think about how many people don't want to be
gay who are gay, you know, who don't want
to, so they try to live their life as straight.
And that's probably what he was doing.
I'm not talking about all them people. I'm talking about him.
All I'm simply saying is, let's just watch the
situation. He played a role to be on
The Bachelor. Now he's announced his Netflix
show. He could be playing a role to do this
Netflix show. I'm just saying, monitor it. Let's watch it.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, that is your rumor report.
Alright, thank you, Miss Yee. Charlamagne!
Who are you giving that to? Man, we need
a woman from Tennessee named Amanda
McCormick and another woman named
Linda Johnson to come to the front of the congregation.
Even though Linda didn't really have nothing to do with it, but
we'll talk about it for after the hour.
Alright, we'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Peace to the planet. All right. We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Your mornings will never be the same.
Peace to the planet.
Charlemagne the God here.
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They chose you.
This is a breakfast club, bitches.
Who's donkey of the day today?
Yes, donkey of the day for Friday, April 16th,
goes to a Tennessee woman named Amanda McCormick.
Okay, now Amanda McCormick was with a woman named Linda Johnson
who was a relative.
And I know you're asking, who are these young ladies?
Well, they are two women who I guess were trying to close the wealth gap by any means necessary.
Fun fact, did you know that the wealth gap in America today is over twice what it was in ancient Rome?
OK, the top one percent of the richest American, the top one percent of rich Americans control almost 40 percent of all wealth.
In ancient Rome, the top one percent controlled only 16% of the country's total wealth.
I'm using that example because that wealth gap was one of the contributing factors to
Rome falling, and it will be one of the contributing factors to America falling if this country
doesn't correct its course.
Now, some would say America has already fallen.
I don't think we've completely fell yet, but America has fallen off.
Okay, there's several reasons for that but in light of
this story let's just talk about the fact that American debt will eventually
ultimately destroy the economy just like it did and you guessed it
ancient Rome see America thinks it can just print money when it wants well they
can print money when they want but printing money whenever you want does
not save economies no no, said Destiny's children.
See, the Roman Emperor Nero devalued Roman coins by using less silver,
which allowed him to create more Roman coins.
But he set a terrible example
because Roman emperors that came after him
did the very same thing.
And over time, inflation ruled everything around Rome
and their currency became worthless.
Okay, sound familiar, America?
Well, it should.
Okay, we on the path to usher bucks for everybody.
The dollars you have in your pockets right now
with all those old white slave owners on them in the future
will be looked at the same way those strippers
in Sapphire Script Club looked at those usher bucks.
Now, we went to ancient Rome.
We went to Las Vegas only to find our way back to Tennessee
with Amanda McCormick and Lynda Johnson.
See, I was reading this article in the New York Daily News this morning, and they reported on this story,
which came courtesy of the smoking gun. And it got me to thinking about all this stuff. So
let me tell you the story. Number one, the wealth gap in America is so bad
that Amanda McCormick received a letter from a church. They didn't provide any additional
information, you know, what the name of the church was or anything, but she received a letter from a church. They didn't provide any additional information, you know, what the name of the church was or anything.
But she received a letter from the church.
Inside that letter was a million dollar bill.
Did you hear what your Uncle Charlotte just said?
Amanda McCormick received a letter from a church with a one million dollar bill in it.
One million dollars.
Now think about it. I amanda mccormick i've been
praying to god for a financial blessing because the wealth gap gap in america is kicking my ass
i receive a letter from a church with a one million dollar bill in it how am i supposed to
know it's fake i even feel it's fake this country prints money whenever however it wants to all i
see is numbers on tv. Two trillion here.
1.9 trillion there.
People getting millions of dollars for something called NFTs, which is just pictures of feet.
It's just money being tossed around all over the place.
Why wouldn't I think this million dollar bill is real?
Never mind the fact that Dolly Parton is on it.
Maybe it was Miley Cyrus or some other famous white woman from Tennessee.
Doesn't matter.
Moral of the story is desperate times make people believe what they want to believe. And she believed this million dollar bill was real
simply because she wanted to. Now, Amanda McCormick did what any woman in Tennessee
who just got a million dollar bill would do. She picked up a relative, which was Linda,
and went to the high end luxury brand store known as Dollar General. Drop on the clues,
Dollar General. OK, well,, Bonds, for Dollar General.
Okay.
Well, she proceeded to load her shopping cart full of several gift cards to various businesses,
and she said she was going to use the money to purchase items for care packages for homeless individuals. She went to the counter with a shopping cart full of all this stuff
and handed the cashier the million-dollar bill, which might have had Pat Summon on it.
Okay, who in Tennessee is going to turn down a million dollar bill with the legendary,
one of the greatest coaches of all time, Pat Summitt on it?
OK, God bless the dead. I'm making all this up.
I don't know if Pat Summitt was on it or not, but I do know the cashier called the police for a suspicious incident.
You think? And that's when Amanda explained she was sent this million dollar bill from the church, blah, blah, blah.
Now, the incident was classified by the sheriff's office as fraud by false pretenses.
But Amanda and Linda were not arrested.
Instead, they were hit with what I think is a way more severe punishment for a woman in Tennessee.
And that is they were issued a verbal no trespass warning prohibiting them from returning to the Dollar General store.
That might be worse than jail for a woman in a certain tax bracket in Tennessee.
Now, I know what you're asking because the smoking gun asked the same questions.
Why did Amanda McCormick think a church would give her a million bucks?
Because the Bible is full of miracles that if I tried to tell you happened to me now, you would you would say to me, excuse me, Mr.
Please, do you spell your first name nigga with a hard E.R.
R.G.A.
So if she was praying for a blessing and that came in the mail, the question should be why
not?
Why not?
OK, why should she not believe the church sent this money?
Well, Uncle Charlotte, maybe because the United States doesn't produce one million dollar
bills.
Nonsense.
We print money whenever we want
to with all these trillions going around. There has to be $1 million bills because it makes it
easier to count the trillions. Okay, Amanda. Okay. Well, here's the important question. In fact,
the most important question. You thought the church really sent you a million dollars. You
thought America actually prints out million dollar bills. But Amanda, did you think that the dollar general, the dollar general, the one dollar general would have changed for a million dollar bill?
Your honor, I rest my case. Please give Amanda McCormick the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's.
Oh, no, you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day.
Yee-haw.
Yee-haw.
Mm-hmm.
What?
What?
You want to play a game?
Oh, God.
Okay.
All right.
If you really want to. It game? Oh, God. Okay. All right. If you really want to.
It's Friday, damn it.
Well, I guess we'll play a game of Guess What Race It Is.
All right.
Amanda McCormick from Tennessee got a million-dollar bill from a church in the mail.
Decided to go to Dollar General to ball out DJ Envy.
Guess what race she is?
I'm going with white.
Explain why.
McCormick last name
and the fact that they didn't get arrested
makes me feel white.
Okay, okay, okay.
I can see why you would say that.
Angela Yee, Amanda McCormick, Tennessee
received a million dollar bill in the mail from the church Okay, okay, okay. I can see why you would say that. Angela Yee, Amanda McCormick, Tennessee,
received a million-dollar bill in the mail from the church,
decided to go to Dollar General and ball out.
Guess what race she is?
I'm going to say Caucasian because I would have went to Louis Vuitton. Shake it off, shake it off.
Just like a nigga.
Geesh. Both of a nigga. Deesh.
Both of you are absolutely positively correct.
Yes!
That mayonnaise was heavy and donkey of the day this morning.
Amanda McCormick was indeed a white woman.
Too much goddamn mayonnaise.
I knew it.
I'm good at this game.
I would have been right on line at Louis Vuitton.
With that million dollar bill?
You know it. They would have locked your ass up too. You would have definitely been in handcuffs. I'd have been right online at Louis Vuitton. With that million dollar bill?
They'd have locked your ass up too.
They'd definitely been in handcuffs.
I need some new luggage.
The not getting arrested was the biggest clue.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, thank you for that dog. And some ready to wear, because I can never afford their ready to wear at Louis Vuitton.
It's too expensive.
But with a million dollars?
You'd have wore that right to jail.
All right.
When we come back, we have Latham Thomas.
I'd have bought you something.
She's been here before.
And Lisa Price.
She is the owner of Carol's Daughter.
So we're going to be talking to both of them when we come back.
So don't move.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Is your country falling apart?
Feeling tired?
Depressed?
A little bit revolutionary?
Consider this.
Start your own country.
I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Everybody's doing it.
I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
I am the Queen of Ladonia.
I'm Jackson the First, King of Kaperburg.
I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Why can't Iana tribe own country.
My forefathers did that themselves.
What could go wrong?
No country willingly gives up their territory.
I was making a rocket with a black powder,
you know, with explosive warheads.
Oh, my God.
What is that? Bullets.
Bullet holes.
We need help!
We still have the off-road portion to go.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
And we're losing daylight fast.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams.
I think a lot of times we are built to doubt
the possibilities for ourselves.
For self-preservation and protection,
it was literally that step by step.
And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
This increment of small, determined moments.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Like grace.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
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Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.
You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,
where I run with celebrities,
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my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even
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podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts morning everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne the
guy we are the breakfast club we got some special guests joining us this morning.
Yes, indeed.
We have Latham Thomas, who's been up here before.
Welcome back.
Thanks for having me.
And we have Lisa Price.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Founder of Carol's Daughter.
Yes.
Welcome, welcome, welcome, ladies.
First, I have to ask, I have two young girls,
and your hair looks amazing.
And trying to keep the curls in my daughter's hair is like my wife says we got to retrain it.
I don't know what she's saying.
Before we leave, please tell me what you use to make those curls stay.
Okay.
So what is in my hair today is our Goddess Strength line.
It is amazing for helping to strengthen the hair and specifically for the curl definition
i'm using the goddess strength divine strength leave-in cream uh so that that's what's in this
today and it i mean i know i make it and i'm supposed to say that it's great but i make it
and it's great clearly it is you your best. Absolutely. I know too much about curly hair.
My kids have it.
We have to retrain it, and we have to do this.
And in the morning when it falls, I'm like, I have no idea.
All I know is my wife says, do not get it wet.
Just let it go.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, so I know how to put a shower cap on and everything.
It's actually my mom's favorite products are Carol's Daughters.
So I always, when y'all send me the emails for the sales,
I always stock up and send her all of the Manoi oil oh thank you thank you and i got in the the goddess
hair oil so my hair smells good too no the room smells amazing right now by the way what would
you suggest for charlemagne's hair if you know what would you suggest for envy's beard because
it's dyed right he actually has grays like I do,
but he puts all that black stuff on it.
Do you recommend that for your skin?
Oh, my goodness.
Yes, thank you.
Oh, my goodness.
We don't, right?
And Latham, I want to thank you.
You sent me this amazing box for International Women's Day,
and one of the things we got to put y'all up on is this Foria oil,
which I really love.
It's an intimacy arousal oil.
So just putting that out there.
Hey.
And we're here today to talk about a number of things,
but the black maternal health crisis.
Yes.
As always.
I hate that we keep having to have this conversation,
but clearly things aren't changing.
Yeah.
I mean, we're still at a place where we're a critical mass
and the crisis in the United States is that we're in the
most dangerous country in the developed world to give birth. Black women are still three to four
times more likely than white women to die during childbirth due to childbirth related causes.
And right now, since we're waiting for policy changes, we have an incredible
Black Maternal Health Momnibus Act that was presented to
Congress. Cory Booker is one of the leads on pushing that through. We've had convenings even
this week during Black Maternal Health Week around, you know, like a conversation, you know,
even at the White House level, Kamala Harris just led a conversation
like this. And so there's, there's so much being talked about. But really, what we're here to talk
about today is what we're doing, what people can do, how we can have self determination in our
communities, and and strive to make a difference starting today. And we can all advocate, we can
all be folks who are striving towards change. You know, the systems are broken
and they're not designed to actually support us. So we need to figure out how to design new systems
and new spaces to support ourselves. So now what is the main problem that you say? You know,
a woman gets pregnant, she goes to the doctor, she gets tested to take a blood test. So what is next?
What should women be doing to make sure that we don't have these problems? So structurally, right, we're looking, and I think
Lisa can speak to this from her own experience as well, right? Because we both have children who are
older now, so we can look at this from a greater time horizon and not be looking at it from, you
know, having younger children, but seeing over the years, our own experiences, and also what we see
today is there's systemic racism is a huge issue like
people like to say like oh well were they eating were they going to their doctor's appointments
where we the research shows that people do go to their doctor's appointments but they feel
dismissed they're not being heard and not being listened to their pain is dismissed we're seen as
being impervious to pain right and so we're usually underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed and
undertreated right and so living in a time like covid where people have comorbidities that may show up, by the way, and rear their heads while you're not getting adequate care because the care is telehealth, for instance, then guess what happens?
Things that could be treated during a pregnancy can become lethal at the end if they're, you know, especially if they're things that, you know, could really impact your health, right, or the baby's health. And so one thing is,
you know, having consistency in providers, which is really important, access to really good and
fair medical insurance. We need to have safe, affordable care, you know, throughout pregnancy
and the entire reproductive continuum,
because things happen outside of pregnancy, as we know, that impact health, right?
Like choices come up and everything is on an as-need basis, right?
But I think it's really important to have education.
And that's one of the things we're really excited to talk about today,
because a lot of people have confusion around what choice really looks like in maternal health.
So if you have a doula who's working with you throughout your pregnancy, your doula gives you questions to ask when you go for the checkup. that, oh, black and brown people are of lower socioeconomic status,
different level of education, different, you know, salaries, so forth.
Maybe they have insurance or not.
And it's all tied around access and poverty.
And it has nothing to do with it.
You can be affluent, six figures, great hospital, great doctor, and still die.
Because they're just not listening to you. I was also, you know, noticing when you go to great hospital, great doctor, and still die because they're just not listening to you.
I was also, you know, noticing when you go to the hospital, a lot of times they do things by
protocol, right? It's not person from person, a patient, a patient, right? I'm just thinking,
even with my, I have five kids, but my last child, my wife went to the hospital and they said,
how many centimeters? They check, okay, you should go back home. And my wife was like, no,
not on the fifth. This doesn't feel like going back home. And my wife was like, no, not on the fifth.
This doesn't feel like going back home.
I'm staying here.
And it was a big thing.
And thank God she did, because we almost had a complication.
But I think it's everything is to protocol.
Yeah, we have to change that.
Yeah, I think this is why, you know, intuition is really important.
Right.
Because she felt and you felt like something like this doesn't feel right. We're going to, you know, make an executive decision here for our care. It's really important to be able to speak up and that's actually advocating an action,
right? And so part of that looks like having informed consent, you know, when prior to a
medical treatment or procedure taking place, you need to be told at every single juncture what is happening.
And so just because you had an experience and the baby turned out healthy
doesn't invalidate the pain that it took or that it caused
or the complications that you endured.
All right, we have more with Latham Thomas and Lisa Price.
When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We're still kicking it with founder of Carol's Daughter, Lisa Price, and doula Latham Thomas.
This is Black Maternal Health Week. Now, Charlamagne.
You definitely explained what doulas do, but what are the benefits?
So there's so many benefits. From a clinical. You know, we actually have studies that show that, you know, the presence of a doula can decrease the use of pain.
Medication can increase the bad.
The instances of vaginal birth can decrease C-sections by like 28 percent.
Latham did that for my wife. Yes. Yes. Yes. She had an incredible birth. Can can also help to increase breastfeeding, maternal satisfaction, bonding.
All of these things are possible. But but the one of the things that I think is really important and it's critical is to decrease C-sections and increase vaginal deliveries,
because what people don't understand, like how you're, how you're born matters and
all births, I mean, C-sections are sacred, you know, all births are sacred because,
you know, how you get here is how you're meant to be here. But we also honor all types of birth
outcomes and all types of feeding. Right. And so it's about being nonjudgmental and being able to
provide people with the tools they need to like move through that process. And what happens during
that time? Like, do you change doctors? Cause this doctor is telling you, you have to have a C-section, right?
And you're saying no.
So now do you change the doctor?
My wife didn't change the doctor.
No?
I think it depends on whether or not you can arrive at an understanding.
So there are times when people do change doctors,
and sometimes you can't because of insurance.
But it's just having the doula there, you have that pause to ask another question.
So, for example, if the doctor doesn't feel that the labor is progressing, it's very common to give women Pitocin to increase the contraction.
But then the Pitocin is something artificial
that's being introduced. Now, I'm sure there are times when medically it is needed, but it is
prescribed way too frequently, way too quickly. A doula would say, you know what, let me walk
with mom and I'm going to take mom up and down the hall for a bit. And we're going to see if we can get this going on our own.
So can we hold off on the Pitocin maybe?
And then mom and doula go walking up and down the hall
and maybe things progress
and they don't have to go to that route.
If there's no doula there, if you don't know,
you don't know that you can ask that question,
then you get Pitocin.
Now your contractions are not only horrible,
they have no rhythm. With Pitocin,
it's like 10 seconds. Here's another one. 15 seconds. Oh, there's another. And you don't
have the rhythm anymore. So now you feel even less control because now I can't even control my pain.
And then you get defeated. And then when somebody starts talking about a C-section,
you're like, you know what? That might be a good idea.
Because I'm tired.
Being a new parent, your first time, you have no clue.
Like you said, and you have nobody to talk to.
That's why I'm a doula.
I wish we had had a doula the first time.
I just remember the doctor when we were delivering and we had five kids and this was the first baby.
I don't know what it's called, but they have to slice with the knife.
Oh, gosh. And my wife was so mad after. I don't know what it's called, but they have to slice with the knife. Oh gosh, the episiotomy? And my wife was
so mad after. But
I'm there, you know, looking. I don't
know what to say. I don't know the questions to ask.
And my wife was like, the doctor didn't have to do
that, you know? I had four other children
and didn't have to do that. But they were so
in a rush probably because they had so many
other deliveries. And if whoever invented
that procedure had to sit
when they urinated, it wouldn't exist. They said it burns like a mother. that procedure had to sit when they urinated my
wife it wouldn't exist they said it burns like a mother it's making me hurt just now
so it's a cut into the erectile tissue between the vaginal opening and the anus right and so
uh so to create more ease for a baby to be delivered, a doctor might make that cut.
It has to be medically necessary.
There are so few reasons to do this cut.
And the baby was five pounds, six ounces.
So there was no reason for that cut.
But I didn't know.
You don't know as a father.
You just, all right.
But I mean, a lot of things that we see that we accept as normal.
So like somebody laboring
on their back right so if you're on your back then your hips are closed if you're squatting
your pelvis is 30 more open so why would you not just get upright and squat and use gravity to
bring your baby down and to like not have any tearing right but there's never a reason to cut
into that tissue i can say this so clearly too for people who get episiotomies, that erectile
tissue, like it, it has to heal. And when, when you're having, when you're having intercourse,
that tissue actually engorges and it makes it really uncomfortable. So a lot of people for
years, sex is uncomfortable for them because of that cut. I was going to ask, you know, when,
when me and my wife first started having kids, they said 35 was the age after 35. It's, it's, you know, you have to
be careful. And it went up to 40. Then they said, 40 is the age. You got to be careful after 40,
trying to have kids. Is there an age limit of when it's necessary, the way you can't have kids and
say, well, you got to be extra, extra careful. Or is it one of those things where you can go
around things for women that are a
little older i'll share a little bit on that what i would like to say first is biological age and
chronological age do not run concurrently which means that like my however many years i've been
on this planet does not necessarily correlate with like my biological age, which will show how I metabolize
stress, like how I, what I may eat, where I live environmentally, like there's a lot of impact on
our bodies, right? And it's, it's different for everybody. So this idea that at 35, that every
single person across the globe had ovaries start to act crazy uterus is falling out organs are
prolapsing like this is not the case now everybody is different but like i think there's a perpetuation
of of this idea of aging that is uncomfortable for people because we do not respect people in
that become ancient in this culture we don't we throw we throw people out with age. Right. And so it's a mechanism also for control too. So I think part of it is that like we have to,
you know, there's regenerative practices, there's foods, there's herbs, there's all kinds of things
that we can do. But yes, there is science and yes, like eggs do age. We're born with all the
eggs we'll ever have. And actually when we're in fetal development, those eggs are also being developed and shedding. But I think the point is, is like, you know,
preserving your, your health and wellbeing is something that we should show up to every single
day. We should show up to the office of health and wellbeing, right? Like that's, that's lifestyle,
right? And so I just, I, I don't like that people's try use science to make completely, to help people determine and usually rule themselves out of possibilities for life choices or life decisions based on what one doctor said, right?
Right.
Well, thank God for love delivered then because y'all going to ease a lot of people's pain.
Right.
And is it also too that as you get
older that there's more of a chance that she'll naturally have twins yeah well yeah they say that
um yeah after 35 37 um you know especially for black women yeah the statistics increase for
for twin like spontaneous twin um pregnancies yeah god like let me give you a couple since you did this one last time.
Let me give you two.
Latham Thomas, Lisa Price,
thank you for joining us so much.
Thank you.
Is it lovedelivered.com?
Carolsdaughter.com.
Carolsdaughter.com.
Backslash love delivered.
Can we say it together though?
Yeah, go ahead.
Let's do it together.
Go.
Carolsdaughter.com backslash love delivered.
You are a dope R&B group.
There you go.
And the next time we're going to harmonize.
One day, Lisa, you've got to come up here and we can talk all things Carol's Daughters.
Yes.
I feel so honored to be in this space.
This is so great.
I'm like, I'm on The Breakfast Club.
Let's do it again soon.
Absolutely.
Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Good like, I'm on The Breakfast Club. Let's do it again soon. Thank you.
Thank you.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Thank you.
The Breakfast Club.
Hey, morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk new music.
It's about time.
What's going on?
Rumor Report.
Rumor Report.
This is The Rumor Report.
Talk to them.
With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.
All right, it's Friday, so you know what that means.
There is new music out.
Now, Saweetie has put out her Pretty Summer playlist, Season 1, and this is her forecasting
talent that she thinks is next up.
Now, one of the songs that's been getting some attention on there is a song that she's
on, Kendra J. It's called
Seesaw featuring Saweetie and people are
saying that it seems like she's addressing Quavo.
Listen to this. I heard some direct bars in there.
Yeah, definitely.
And she said, you said I was not the woman you thought or something like that?
Mm-hmm.
Drop on the Clues, my sweetie.
I'd hit body in bars.
Y'all want no problems, sweetie.
Today is YSL Slime Language 2, 23 tracks long.
All kinds of guest appearances.
Travis Scott, Drake, Big Sean, Lil Baby, Kid Cudi, Lil Uzi, Skepta.
A whole lot of people are on this album.
So here is Solid.
This is Young Thug and Gunna featuring Drake. I'm going to get into that later.
I'm going to tell you something.
That's a very mature ask that Drake asked that young lady.
He said, I want some moral support.
Ask your woman for some moral support this weekend, guys.
Moral support.
Very mature.
Also, Conway the Machine, La Machina is out today with features from Benny the Butcher, West Side Gun,
2 Chainz, Luda, Hulk, all kinds of people.
Big Scar, Big Grim Reaper is out today also.
Memphis, I keep telling y'all,
Memphis got the best rappers in the game right now,
but y'all don't want to listen to me.
Now, there's also a new song that's been released,
DMX, Swiss Beats, and French Montana.
It's called Been to War.
I don't give a fuck about doing life for a damn sale. I just sold the drugs. release. DMX, Swiss Beach, and French Montana. It's called Been To War. Let's get it on, baby. We can do the wall all summer. I done been to jail. I done did numbers.
I done been to hell.
I done been under.
Difference between a boss and a runner.
Whatever you think.
No way.
Uh-uh.
Doing what you want to.
Playing a game in the off season.
You can stop it.
You gonna around and end up rolled up in the car.
Long live X.
Long live Earl Simmons.
And that's from the soundtrack from Godfather of Harlem,
the Epix original series.
Oh, that's a lot to get into.
I'm definitely getting into that YSL album,
definitely getting into Conway's album.
Somebody else you just named.
Scar.
Scar, definitely big Scar.
All right, and of course,
you know, keep on checking
for these new music updates.
I wish I had an hour
to talk about everything
that's out today
because people will be like,
you missed this, you missed that.
But, you know,
unfortunately,
can't get into everything. Now, you know, we love talking about investments on this show.
And NBA stars Carmelo Anthony and John Wall have put some money into a cannabis brand now. So
it might be something worth people looking at, as we saw what just happened with Coinbase.
So if you're looking to put your money into an industry that has high growth in more ways than
one, they're saying cannabis might be the ticket with all these states legalizing the use of recreational marijuana.
And John Wall and Carmelo Anthony
are now investors in L-E-U-N-E.
I don't know the right pronunciation.
It sounds like Loon, Loon.
It's a California-based marijuana company.
So according to CNBC,
they reported that they have joined
NBA agent Rich Paul,
also Lala Anthony,
and music manager Anthony Saleh.
You know, him and Nas have their company together and a new round of funding to help that company raise $5 million.
Just putting that out there.
And in the NBA, Lamar Odom,
he was talking about one of his last conversations with Kobe Bryant
and how Kobe Bryant offered to help him with his debt.
He was on the All the Smoke podcast.
And here's what he said.
I had been gambling and it had kind of got like a little too steep.
And if you're in a bad situation, especially about some money, he ain't the one that you're going to want to call.
I was like, have it up to strength.
I put my pride to the side.
He was like, you know, after he went in.
He went in on you first?
Yeah.
He was just like, how are your people?
Call my people and we'll figure it out.
Kobe better than me.
What do you mean?
You lose your money gambling?
Gambling?
You got to eat that.
You got to, you know, when you make a phone call to me for something like that,
it got to be life and death.
It got to be, you know, you backed up on some medical bills or you about to lose your house
or something. Gambling? No.
Yeah, but Kobe's in a different
tax bracket than you are
and his relationship with I'm sure Lamar
was a lot greater. But I'm with you.
What do I got to do? Shut the hell up!
How you gonna sit there and judge me and then tell me you with me?
Shut up! I don't wanna hear
from you no more. I thought about it. I'm like, nah,
B, you gambled. Nah. This nigga just shamed me. I ain't in the same tax bracket as Kobe. I thought about it. I'm like, nah, B, you gamble. Nigga, this nigga is shaming me.
I ain't in the same tag bracket as Kobe.
You know what I mean?
But as I was speaking, I thought about it.
You gambling?
You gambling?
You got money to gamble?
No, sorry.
And then you call me?
Gambling is an addiction, though.
We've seen that before.
It's a sickness. It's an addiction.
What do I got to do with anything?
And it could trigger his other addictions.
I don't want to hear that.
He may have wanted to try to help him No, I don't want to hear that.
He may have wanted to try to help him.
He said, we'll figure it out.
So maybe it was conditional.
Maybe it was go to rehab and I'll help you.
Who knows?
Unless you're in a situation like Alonzo in training day where the Russians are going to kill you at a certain time.
If you ain't calling me, telling me nothing like that,
I'm not helping you with getting out of your gambling debt.
You got to figure that out on your own.
No, because what are they going to try to do?
They're going to try to, after I pay it off,
you're going to re-gamble and try to back up?
Exactly.
No.
Not gambling.
No, you're on your own with that one, King.
Love you, though.
That is your rumor report.
Love you.
Love you, brother, but you got to wear that debt.
Yeah, I ain't messing with that.
I thought about it.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
All right.
Revolt, we'll see you guys on Monday.
Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next.
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Morning, everybody, it's DJ
Envy, Angela Yee,
Charlamagne Tha Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest on the line, Carrie
O'Horn. Thank you for having me again.
Thank you, Charlamagne. No, man,
it's a pleasure, especially being that we
hear talking some
really, really, really good news. First of all,
we gotta tell them Carrie O'Horn's story.
She's a former Buffalo police officer
who back in the day,
she stopped a fellow cop's chokehold
on a suspect.
Correct.
Which they terminated you for, right?
Am I explaining that correctly?
Well, he doesn't like to be called a suspect.
His name is Neal Mack.
All of his charges were dropped.
I'm sorry, Neal.
Yes.
Yes.
But they fired you for that.
Yeah. For doing sorry, Neil. Yes. Yes. But they fired you for that. Yeah.
For doing the right thing.
They made up a story that I jumped on the officer's back, which was impossible because there was a suspect between us and we were face to face.
They basically said that I just went there and just was out of control.
And they took your pension away.
You were fired and you had to fight and fight and fight and damn near sued to get everything back.
So what happened now? Where are we at now?
So then in September, the council passed Cario's Law, which is the duty to intervene.
It was a law that I wrote in 2016, and I just did not know how to get it passed.
So Terry Watson, the founder of Strategies for Justice, he helped along with my team.
They helped me get that passed.
And it actually was an effort with protesters and everybody, everybody chipped in to help get that law passed.
Then the mayor signed it like a month later.
And then yesterday, the judge ruled for me because we filed a lawsuit. The attorneys,
I have awesome attorneys also. They filed the lawsuit and yesterday the judge came back with
a decision and to give me my pension. Hey, that's right. Overthrowing the firing. And so I'm pension
eligible. That's, that's the term i'm supposed to use
pension eligible i want to revisit though back then because what we're seeing right now while
we're watching this derek chauvin case right and what's happening with him is how many people that
were witnesses wish they could have intervened or done something to stop derek chauvin from
killing george floyd and you actually did intervene so can you tell us what was going on in your mind at that time? There was a a man named Mark Virginia who was killed by
Buffalo police and that's what I thought of when I saw him choking Neil Mack. I thought of Mark
Virginia where there are other officers there and nobody stopped the chokehold to save his life.
So that's actually what I thought of.
And so, you know, I yelled to him, Greg, you're choking him.
And then when he didn't stop, that's when I decided to step in,
grab his arm, and that's all I did,
was grab his arm from around his neck.
But then by the time they finished with the story,
he said I did a whole thing.
It doesn't matter.
You're a hero
you did exactly what we would want any police
officer to do in that situation
and you know what didn't that same
police officer end up getting
going to jail for something else after that
he did he choked another officer
on duty and then he banged the heads
of four teens on a
police car that he was arresting
and one of the teens was shot with a
bb gun also in the george floyd case we saw that no officer did anything that's right that's the
purpose of cario's law it's the cario's law duty to intervene because then it's a law that you have
to intervene but we need to make it a national law because it makes no sense to just have it here in this city where an officer here can move to another city and get on that department.
We actually needed a federal law.
So it's great that it started here, but it needs to be a federal law.
And you can go to KaryosLaw.com and get all the information to jump on board for that.
You have to have a law in place for officers to do what they say they're they're they're supposed to do, which is protect themselves.
Yeah. So I didn't want any other officer to go through what I had gone through for doing the right thing.
So I tried to figure out what a solution would be because you hear the problems all the time. So I wanted a solution and what will force the officers to do it.
Because if you don't force them, a lot of them are still not going to do it because they don't want to cross over that blue line.
So that's why I thought of the law.
So now that we have the law and they have to do it, then it's important to get it passed throughout the country.
And my attorneys are on.
I see you, attorney. I see you. I see him. I saw when he popped up with the bow tie and that Law
of America book behind him. I said, well, that's the attorney right there. Now, we were asking
earlier, Ron, about, you know, what happens now? Does she get a pension back? We were talking back
pay. And is she an officer now? So can you break it down what exactly it is? Actually, what what happened with this ruling is she was reinstated until the date that she was fired.
Basically, they put everything back as though it were, you know, 14 years ago.
So she gets back pay for those two years and that brings her up to 20 years of service which makes her pension eligible so we've
got to do some stuff to do the paperwork for the pension but she's back to um where she was as
though this ridiculous decision had not happened in the first place uh we have to talk about later
you know what happens from 2010 to 2020 but that's a that's a separate conversation i was gonna say
that let's say she didn't want to retire.
She should still be being paid for right now.
Like, she's a cop.
She should be paid for it right now.
Much more difficult question,
but I hear you.
We're going to deal with that.
Now, Ms. Horne, they're saying,
you know, I'm reading the headlines
and they're saying that, you know,
you've been vindicated.
Do you feel vindicated?
Do you feel like this is justice?
To a certain point, yes.
I think that the attorneys did an awesome job.
They really did an awesome job.
I really didn't understand how he was working,
but he was like, trust me on this, Ron.
He said, trust me on this.
And I was like, okay.
Like, you know, I've been trying to fight it all of these years and I didn't get anywhere, so I have to trust me on this. And I was like, okay. Like, you know, I've been trying to fight it all of these years
and I didn't get anywhere.
So I have to trust them on this.
And thank you, Ron.
Thank you so much.
And Intisar, is Intisar going to say anything?
Hey, Intisar, what is it?
Intisar?
Intisar.
Intisar.
Peace, Intisar.
Peace to you.
It was, I think this was justice a long time in coming,
and we're so happy that Cario has been vindicated now.
Let me just add really quick, because Cario is a little too modest.
She had opportunities years ago to get kind of minor settlements in this,
but she refused to do it because of the broader issue, because of
Cario's law. She said, it's not just about me. It's about a much, much broader issue. And that's
a matter of principle. And that's one of the reasons that we took on this matter, because she
is so principled. And you don't say that a lot. Most people are me, me, me, me, me. Cario was like, it's not just
about me. Other officers all over the
country are facing this, and we've
got to force them to be
able to intervene when
they see this kind of foolishness going on.
So she just, you know, she
stood firm. It was homeless
and everything, but she stood firm.
So thank you, Cario.
No, Ron, you're absolutely right, because
every single time Ms. Horn
reaches out to me, it's never about her
pension or anything going on with her.
It's always about Cariel's Law.
This is happening for Cariel's Law. This march
is for Cariel's Law. This is for Cariel's Law.
So you're absolutely right. It's not
a self-serving thing at all. Much love,
Cariel. You guys are a blessing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
All right, again,
and thank you to Cariel Horn for joining us.
And I'm so glad
that they gave her
her pension back, man.
I'm glad they gave her
her pension back, too.
She was supposed to be on
CNN this morning,
but they canceled the interview
because of breaking news.
But she'll be on TMZ later, man.
I love Cariel Horn,
and I think that her story
needs to get out there
a lot more. But also, Cariel's law needsiel Horn, and I think that her story needs to get out there a lot more.
But also, Cariel's law needs to be federal
because I do think it's a crime
if you're a police officer and you
don't intervene when another police
officer is failing to do
their job of protecting and serving.
So, salute to Cariel Horn.
And also, I'm going to be out in Arizona this weekend,
Saturday Night Live, so anybody out in Phoenix,
Arizona, come hang out with your boy.
Now you got a positive note?
I do, man.
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So make sure you go pre-order
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