The Breakfast Club - New Mixed with Old (French Montanna Interview, Cesar Pina and Jen Tips Interview and Ryan Wilson and TK Peterson Interview)

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

Today on the show we hadvCesar Piña & Jenni Tips stop by and discuss the real estate market, investment properties, new platform and more. Next, its been awhile since we had our guy French Montan...na stop by, who discussed quitting alcohol, starting verzuz, upcoming documentary, new album and more. Lastly, we had Ryan Wilson & TK Petersen stop by to speak on the Gathering Spot', building community, financial inclusion and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sleep tight, if you can. but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other, so join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Y'all are so petty. Why are y'all so petty? The world's most dangerous morning show.
Starting point is 00:03:05 DJ Envy. Captain of this bitch. Angela Yee. I stay in everybody's business, but in a good way. Charlamagne Tha Gollum. The ruler rubbing you the wrong way. The Breakfast Club. Pay for everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I'm telling. I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm telling. I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, what up? This is boy Flex Luger from Dover, Delaware, man. Okay. Dover, Delaware. What up, bro? Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Man, listen, man. Listen, listen, listen. No disrespect to all the MCs or whatever, man, but I just want to let y'all know. My name is Flex Luger. I'm a 42-year-old rapper. And I'm coming, man. I know y'all going to clown me. Let's hear something since you're so confident. Oh, I'm very confident.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, you want to hear something? Yep. Yeah. Okay, then. All right. That's all good. You don't sound so confident. I remember I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I would dream of blowing up. Steady doing shows. Damn, why nobody showing up? I ain't had no crack prices steady growing up. I would dream of blowing up. Steady doing shows. Damn, why nobody showing up? I ain't had no crack prices. Steady going up. Chilling with your bows. Big jeans. Dudes know what's up.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Only had a couple homies. I ain't never do the phonies. Favorite song was Tenderoni. Used to fight my cousin Tony. Mama used to pray for me. She still do it faithfully. All I heard was hand jokes. My dude, it was pricking me.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Had to pick my up. Okay. All right. All right. Amen. Amen. I got a song onicking me. Had to pick my up. Okay. All right. All right. Hey, man. Hey, man. I got a song on all platforms. Pain, I feel.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Flex Luger. I ain't trying to network. It's still the show. I'm just saying, man. I'm hungry, Envy. I've been doing this for years, Envy. My name is Flex Luger. Pain, I feel.
Starting point is 00:04:37 All platforms. Angelique put me on the show. I talk nasty and everything. I ain't playing. Flex, what do you do? What's your nine to five? Man, I'm working at Kimberly Clark right now in South Carolina, dog. But that's only temporary.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Because what pain I feel, get off the ground, it's over with. I promise you. Pain I feel all platforms. Let me ask you a question. When do you, you know, as an entrepreneur, you start a business and it doesn't work. When do you let that business go? So when do you say, you know what? I ain't going to rap anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You know what? That's a good point, Envy. I'm not lying to lying to you man but i'm so passionate about it dog i feel like i'm gonna still be on the uh the tip of you know writing music for people man how long you been doing music i've been doing it for a long time man i really have like what's a long time well i've been i fell in love with it when i was like 10 years old, man. Okay. I know it's over. I already... Wait a minute. Nobody's saying that.
Starting point is 00:05:28 You were so confident a minute ago. Don't do that. Envy's a DJ. You don't know what he might be able to do for you. Right, right, right. I'm still confident, though. Right, right. Envy just said, nah, nah, I heard that.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I said nothing. But, you know what I mean? Y'all stay with it, man. I mean, everybody has their chance, and maybe you just haven't had your chance yet. Our camera guy, Nick, said keep going. I'll never tell anybody to stop what they're doing. But, you know, sometimes, you know, like with any business, you got to know when to fold. Nah, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Know when to fold. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. You know what I mean? I think it's know when to hold. Oh, hold them. Fold and hold. You can't know when to fold and then know when to fold again.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, I'm sorry. Yes? Yo, Envy Angela, I just asked y'all, man. I don't want to do nothing harmful, man. I'm just asking y'all. Please go hear my song, Pain I Feel, Flex Luger, all platforms, streaming everywhere. All right. I got a whole album out.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I got a whole album out, broken promise. He sound like he from Queens, right, Envy? No, he definitely doesn't sound like he from Queens. He sound like he from Brooklyn. Sometimes you got to know. Know when to hold him. Know when to fold him. That's how you say it?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Okay. All right, so maybe he should fold him. Hello, who's this? Hey, man, good morning. This is Russ. Russ, what's happening, King? Get it off your chest, Russ. Nothing, man.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Hey, man, let me first say, I've been listening to y'all since I was in ninth grade, right? How old are you now? I'm 23 years old. Lord have mercy. Boy, we've been listening to y'all since I was in ninth grade, right? How old are you now? I'm 23 years old. Lord have mercy. Boy, we've been around too long. Man, listen, I called y'all back when I was in 10th grade in high school. And Envy hung up on me because he couldn't get my name right. Russ?
Starting point is 00:06:57 I couldn't get Russ right? Sounds about right. He kept saying rough. He kept saying rough. Envy's communication has improved a lot over the years. Russ, this is too difficult. Hang up on him. I think that's a lie, Russ, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'll let you in. But anyway, I remember what I was mad about back then. I was mad because, you know, I'm from Baltimore, man. Y'all not want 92Q. So I was mad about that. That's too cute. But hey, Charlamagne, you know what I'm doing today? Masturbating.
Starting point is 00:07:23 What? Nah. Some things don't change. What, sir? I'm going to read your book, Anxiety Playing Tricks, on me. Shook one. Yes, sir. Exactly, because I took a mental health day today, so I called out of work.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh, man. Listen, we got to do that from time to time. What you having anxiety about today, brother? Man, Monday morning, I was on my way to a job interview, and I had crashed my car, man. That just ruined my week. Damn. Well, shake it off, my brother.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I'm glad you're taking a mental health day today. Yesterday was a day that you should have, like, you know, did some energy cleansing, man. Maybe take a salt bath, write down your long-term goals, manifest some things in your life. But you can still do that today. Yeah, man. I'm a journal today.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm going to get my feelings off my chest and write it down. Look back on this day, and I know it's not going to be a big deal. So, you know, I'm just trying to push through. I love this, my brother. I love how you're living, King. Have a good one. You be safe. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Y'all have a good morning. Thanks for asking my phone call. It's going to be feeling a lot better. Hey, Russ, I'm gonna put you on hold. I'm gonna send you some more things to read. I'm gonna send you Dr. Rita Walker, the unapologetic guy, the black mental health.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That's one I recommend to everybody, man. I'm gonna send you that. Hey, man, you can autograph that for me, too. That'd be helpful. Well, it's not mine to autograph, but I'll send it to you. Oh, damn, man. I got you, King.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I'm gonna send it to you. Hold on. Don't hang up. Hold on. All right, I hang on. Yo, Line 7. Hello, who's this? Hey you. Hold on. Don't hang up. Hold on. All right, I hang on. You're on line seven. Hello, who's this? Hey, DJ Ember.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This is Uber Mike. Uber Mike. What up, bro? Get it off your chest. How you doing? Two things. First thing, thank you for sending us a shout out yesterday, but I only got one problem. I don't like wait on people when I pull up.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't like wait. You hit confirm, that means you're ready to go. Nah, it don't. It don't, because I'm that type of person. Because sometimes Uber say they'll be there in 10 minutes, and it take 15 minutes, and I don're ready to go. Nah, it don't. It don't because I'm that type of person. Because sometimes Uber said they'll be there in 10 minutes and it take 15 minutes and I don't be waiting outside. So if I'm staying at a hotel, I'm doing something, I usually wait to you outside
Starting point is 00:09:12 that I start walking to you. Okay. And then Angela Yee, when is Yee Day? I want to come to your Yee Day. August 28th. I'm already starting. Yes, I've already been planning it. It's going to be amazing this year. I can't wait. Okay, I'll be there. And last thing, I promise you, this is Charlemagne. Yes, sir. already been planning it. It's going to be amazing this year. I can't wait. Okay, I'll be there. And last thing, I promise you, this is Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yes, sir. Okay, you know that fear we have when somebody pull up on the side of you on the car? Yes, sir. That's the fear I got. That's why I don't like waiting. A car be pulling up along beside you, that fear we got. Hey, you're talking about the anxiety, but I'm going to tell you something. I couldn't be an Uber driver, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Dealing with all them strangers every day and random people jumping in and out, exchanging that different energy with different people all day. Lord have mercy. Oh, man, it's a blessing, man. I love talking to people. I have 10,000 pickups, man. It's amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I read that story the other day, and it gave me anxiety for all the Uber and Lyft drivers about the young lady who got killed. Yeah. And she was begging for her life. She had four kids. Like, damn. Yeah. Y'all have a blessed morning, man. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:10:11 All right. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest. I hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? This ball calling for the 313. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:10:35 313, what's happening? That's Detroit, right? That's Detroit. Yes, it is. Yes, sir. What up, brother? Get it off your chest. Okay, I want to first of all, I want to say good morning, Angela Yee.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Good morning. Good morning, DJ Envy. Good morning, sir. And good morning, Charlamagne Tha Great. Peace, King. How are you, black man? Hey, I'm all right, brother. I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I just want to say that I love my girl. I love her. We've been together 14 years. Hey. And I just want to tell you, her name is Brandi Michelle Foster. I just want to say how much I love her. I appreciate everything that she do for me and my family and my kids.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I would never forsake her. I would never take her for granted. I would never play with her. I don't do that. I wish all black men would do the same thing because there's not a lot of women that's real and that's going to hold you down like my BFF do me. When I say my baby hold me down,
Starting point is 00:11:26 there's no limit. I don't even think about another female. Everybody you come out, they want Beyonce and Rihanna. I want a Brandy. I don't want none of that. I want a Brandy. You want your Brandy, that's right. Yeah, not Brandy, Brandy. You're not Brandy. You want your Brandy. 14 years. You want my Brandy. There you go.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Brandy Machado Foster, that's her name. That's my baby and I love her. There you go, brother. That's beautiful, my king her name. That's my baby, and I love her. There you go, brother. That's beautiful, my king. Have a good one. Y'all two as well. I mean, he said it like he got options. He said it like something just happened.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I'm just saying. He did, he did. I don't know what happened. I don't want me a Rihanna. Do you have the option to have Rihanna? He must have just liked the picture or something. You can only say you don't want something if you can actually get it. Make sure you listen this morning to
Starting point is 00:12:06 Breakfast Club. Don't do him like that. He just loves the band. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Cesar. Hey, what's up, bro? Get off your chest. Hey, Cesar. I meant to use an anonymous name. Hey, everybody. Too late. Oh, my goodness. Charlamagne. Peace, peace. Do you want to change your name
Starting point is 00:12:22 now? I'm sorry, man. I just didn't get off my chest real quick. I'm sorry for cutting you off, E, because I don't like when Charlamagne and Envy do that to you. But, yeah, let me get off my chest. I don't like when people be trying to take other people back and still hold like a brush against it, you know? Like, for example, if a dude cheats on a girl, and he like, I forgive you, I take you back, but like, one week, years down the road, you still like throwing it back in my face?
Starting point is 00:12:57 That's like, come on now. So this just happened, this just happened to you, Cesar? Uh, I mean, yeah, but I mean, this is like, this is like a long ago type you, Cesar? I mean, yeah. But this is like some long-ago type stuff. But I'm talking about even nowadays. I see my partners go through it. Vice versa. I see females go through it with guys. It's like, hey, don't take them back.
Starting point is 00:13:17 If you're not going to 100% forgive them. Well, I will say this. Sometimes things trigger you. So you might have forgiven somebody, but that doesn't mean that you completely forget it. And so there might be certain times when you fall back into some old habits. It takes a long
Starting point is 00:13:32 time to build up that trust. So it's an effort on both people's parts, though I do agree. You can't just keep on beating somebody up after you said, let's work on it. But every now and then, you know, you don't intend for it to happen, but you get a little mad. You're right. You're right. You're right. We all get
Starting point is 00:13:47 trying to, you know, live our best lives out here. I feel you. Well, thank you, bro. Good luck, man. Hello, who's this? Yo, it's Ron from Cincinnati. Ron, what's up, man? You want to holla at Sharla? Yeah, hey, first of all, man, I just want to give you your roses now. You know, for the work that you do, man,
Starting point is 00:14:04 with mental health, like, I mean, you do a great, you know, for the work that you do with mental health. Like, I mean, you do a great job now with not just awareness piece, but also, you know, trying to implement a way for people to really, you know, to heal and to deal with their mental health, right? Thank you, King. Man, it's all good. I sent some T-shirts to you guys, too, man.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So I created some depression T-shirts and said that I make **** up look good. You guys get it? No, I didn't see that. You make whatshirts and said that I make up look good. You guys get it? No, I didn't see that. You make what look good? I make up look good. So that's what the t-shirts say. They're depression t-shirts, right?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Okay. You know, for people, man, that are struggling, you know, depression and different, you know, scenarios, right? And basically it's saying that, look, man, you don't see what's going on inside because, like, you know, a lot of mental health issues, it's not like a cold when you see
Starting point is 00:14:45 the summer. You know what I'm saying? So people don't see the people though. They see and see and other issues.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So basically, you know, what I tell people here in the United States, go get your hair done, get your nails
Starting point is 00:14:55 done, guys, go get your beard shaved and put your outfit on and make your look good.
Starting point is 00:15:00 All right, bro. Okay. Yes, sir. Well, thank you, man. You have a good
Starting point is 00:15:03 day, man. Have a good morning. All right, bro. All right, man. Hello, who's this? This is Tim Ben. Hey, good morning, bro. Okay. Yes, sir. Well, thank you, man. You have a good day, man. Have a good morning. All right, bro. All righty, man. Hello, who's this? This is Timbin.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Hey, good morning, mama. Get it off your chest. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. Good morning, y'all. It's my birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Happy birthday. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. I'm so excited to talk to you. Sorry, y'all. What you doing this weekend? Well, right now, later on, my mom's going to come get me. We'll go to the spa and stuff. I'm excited to talk to you. Sorry, y'all. What you doing this weekend? Well, right now, later on, my mom's going to come get me. We'll go to the spa and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Oh, that is really nice. I like that. A spa day with your mama. Yeah, enjoy your day, mama. Thank you. I have a question for Charlamagne, though. Yes, ma'am. Charlamagne, I've been buying all these books, right, because you recommended them.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But the only book I don't have is yours. Is there any way I can get it for a birthday kiss? Which one? I got you. Which one do you want? Say both. The first yours. Is there any way I can get it for a birthday kiss? Which one? I got you. Which one do you want? Say both. The first one. I want to start with the first one.
Starting point is 00:15:48 On black privilege? All right, I got you. I'm going to put you on hold and get your address. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. Y'all have a blessed one. Yes, ma'am. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Hold on one second. Thank you again. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people,
Starting point is 00:16:46 you know, follow and admire join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana Craigman country, my forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're
Starting point is 00:17:59 losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny living.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Restaurant stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. get your podcasts. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:20:09 Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. From the gathering spot, we have Ryan Wilson and TK Peterson. Welcome, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Good to be here. Greenwood and the gatheringing Spot, sir. Well, let's break it down for people that don't know. What is the Gathering Spot? So the Gathering Spot is a private network that we established in Atlanta in 2016. We're in the community business. We figure out how to connect people. Youngest member is 21.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Oldest is 90. So we spend time building connections, hosting programs, and we have physical clubs across the country. We actually just had Mary J. Blige's Strength of a Woman. Yeah, Strength of a Woman. Their whole entire event was there at the gathering spot. So how can people become a member if they wanted to become a member of the gathering spot? So you go online, right? We have a process that starts there.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You'll get in contact with a person on our membership team, and then we interview everybody, right? It's really important for us to get to know every single member of the community to make those connections that I was talking about. We've got to spend time really understanding what makes you, you. And then from there, we send out acceptances. So it kind of works like college. You put your application in, and then we'll tell you soon after if you're a member. How many members are there?
Starting point is 00:22:24 There's 12,000 across the country. Across the country. Now, with membership, what does that include? What do I get with the membership and how much is membership fees? And why would somebody want to do it? Gotcha. So the membership includes access to the physical locations we have. So in Atlanta, we have about 25,000 square feet.
Starting point is 00:22:39 In D.C. and L.A., roughly the same size. So physical clubs that have event space, a private restaurant and bar, and a workspace with private offices and conference rooms. The thought being that anything you would need to do in a modern day's worth of work, you can do inside of the space, both professional and social. And then we have our own content platform, digital platform there, and local perks and different benefits. But the biggest attraction to being a part of the community is that one another. You're meeting other people who are like-minded and highly driven and see value in being part of
Starting point is 00:23:09 something that's larger than themselves. So very similar to college where you're meeting people who are lifelong friends and partners and different things. This is how you keep that connectivity beyond the educational setting and with you for the rest of your life, hopefully. Interestingly enough, you know, when I started my private label store in detroit the meeting that i had with my partner mikey was at the gathering spot so that's where we actually had our first initial meeting in person to kind of talk about getting things started so like like stories like that or what it's about just for us like we look now it's been almost seven seven years since tgs opened and there's so many business partners and relationships we even have TGS babies
Starting point is 00:23:47 where people are like I met I met at TGS and now now look at us that's why we started it but we want to decide peace at the gathering space and that's that's again though when we were talking about this in 2013 that was the plan like how do we create yes a place but a network where we can build with one another right knowing that there's not enough places around the country to be able to do that so we started in atlanta but we're building them all over the country now now what is membership fees how much does it cost to be membership and can i bring in people because you know how does that work yeah great question um the fees are it it's $200 a month or $2,000 for the year to be a member of the gathering spot. And yeah, you're allowed three guests pretty much at any time without giving advance notice.
Starting point is 00:24:32 If you need more than that, we ask that you reach out so we can make sure that there's enough space for your guests. What made you decide Atlanta was the right place to start? I think Atlanta is one of the more important cities in the country. And we've believed that for a really long time. But you look between the colleges and universities, the big businesses that are there, the small businesses and startups that are there. And then you've got the culture that's coming out of the city. Right. That special sauce. We couldn't we couldn't pass that up. Right. That's what you see inside of the club. You'll see people who are wearing suits and ties sitting next to people who are wearing t-shirts and jeans. And so our goal is to try to figure out how to make them talk to each other.
Starting point is 00:25:07 But you have to be in a city that understands and kind of moves in that way already. And so we planted it in Atlanta, but we're in the community business. So, I mean, we're at this point able to do this work all over the country. And then D.C., right? Also. So, yeah, D.C. was the second one. And then we recently opened another in los angeles and that's the physical clubs but we have membership communities actually one here in new york
Starting point is 00:25:30 chicago uh detroit houston charlotte so there are tgs folks everywhere now i was going to ask you know drake talks about uh kicking it with jack harlow at the gathering spot so you have celebrities as well that are members or do you have celebrities that you know come through because they feel safe I used to always see T.I. there. Yeah. Yeah Tips our brother man. He's a longtime supporter showed us a lot of love the whole grand hustle team We're forever thankful for their support very early on but yeah, we have we have celebrity members Oftentimes we have a lot of people who the team around the the celebrity is often time the member so they're like manager their assistant their the team around the celebrity is oftentimes the member. So they're like manager, their assistant, their attorney.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So the apparatus around them. And then because of that, they're familiar with the space. And because it's a private community, they have, you know, private get togethers regularly. So we're fortunate that we've worked with Drake and the OVO team several times over the years. It's always a great time with them. Now, why would you turn somebody down if they wanted to become a member? Why would you turn them down? So we're looking for people who are connectors, right? So if you're one of those people that likes to walk in rooms and just pass out your business card and not say anything,
Starting point is 00:26:35 and the interaction is really transactional, you're probably not a good fit for TGS. Forget it, Envy. This is about relationships right so if you're not a person that displays interest in building real relationships this is probably not the best environment for you I mean we ask a lot of questions in our interview but the main thing that we're asking and the question that everyone gets is what animates you outside of the office and we like we really care about the answer to that question like you have to talk to us about that other thing that you're passionate about.
Starting point is 00:27:06 That's what we ultimately build programs around. So it's important to get to you, the real you. And if you don't want to bring that to the table again, this is probably not the best place for you. Now, this always fascinates me. So I want to get to the Greenwood part where you guys have done this whole partnership. Now, the wording is Greenwood acquired the gathering spot. And so as people who have built this up, right, as a baby from the beginning,
Starting point is 00:27:30 what was the decision that, what was the thinking behind you making that decision to go into business with Greenwood? So there are a lot of things in this, right? But first and foremost, if you look at what we've been talking about at TGS for years, right? So the pandemic hits, and we had a very vocal campaign called We All We Got. And the thing that we were talking about
Starting point is 00:27:49 was we've got to support one another and be radical in that support. That's us talking a lot, though, about money, right? And so the conversation that was happening a lot in the community is that we just don't have access to the right resources and the right tools to be able to advance our personal and our business interests.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So what we're doing with Greenwood is something that really is special, right? When you hear the term black on black, a lot of times that phrase doesn't end positively, but in this context, it does, right? This is black on black M&A. And we're working together to build a really, really big company, knowing that we bring the community that we have at TGS now together with the financial tools and resources that Greenwood has. Those those two things together are super, super powerful. So we decided it was it was better to go with each other than to be trying to build a business separately. Now, are black people only allowed at the Gatherer's Spot? You just said Jack harlow was there i don't know he's a member he might have came with somebody else that's what i'm asking
Starting point is 00:28:49 no so look we are we are specific at tgs and at greenwood that while everybody is welcome we are speaking to our community directly, right? And so that is where we are focused, right? We're talking to black folks, and have never mixed words about that. It's important for us to have places. You mentioned safety earlier. We have to have places where we are safe and can build and grow with one another. So, again, everyone's welcome, but we are definitely specific about where
Starting point is 00:29:25 we have a perspective. I think something that Ryan has said over the years as true is that there's places where we're tolerated or accepted. This is a place that was built for us. This is black owned, black managed, black operated. This is our platform. We got more with the owners from the gathering spot when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:29:42 The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. I got. The Breakfast Club. We are The Breakfast Club. I gotta remind you guys, my car show happens July 9th in Atlanta. Your favorite celebrity cars like 50 Cent, Bun B, Pastor Troy, Jeezy, Rick Ross, Carlos
Starting point is 00:29:58 Miller, Killer Mike. But since we're talking Atlanta, we got the brothers from the gathering spots here. Now, let me ask you this. So we talk about working in tandem, right? Black on black, but in a positive way. So why acquiring and not a partnership? So, I mean, that really got down to just the way that the best way to construct the deal. Right. I mean, Greenwood is a big platform. Right. If you look at just technology companies generally, the way that they're able to scale is a little bit different than what we were we were doing.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But the way that this works truly day to day is that we are partners. Right. Like our teams are working with one another. We I think this is an example of like, again, for other business owners that are out there, it's possible to find arrangements. Like we we've been working together for a long time. We just have expanded the family and are proud to work with the greenwood team day and day now how difficult was it to get everything together i mean starting off saying you want to have a membership club and how difficult was that because you need a vision and it has to be a vision of not just one or two people you need a bunch of people right because if i want to join a membership type of club i can't just as just me and one person like you need numerous people you need numerous people. So how difficult was that? Big, difficult, big, difficult. So the, the hardest thing as always,
Starting point is 00:31:10 you guys know as entrepreneurs as well as you need capital, which is the first step. So something we talk about is that we got 97 no's before we got the first yes, when it came to, to get an investor. And then when you finally make it to the part where you have the capital to build out the location, then you start operating the business. And like you said, we're a private membership club and people want to see it before they sign up and you don't want to come to a place that doesn't have anyone in there. So it was, we say hand-to-hand combat. Every day we
Starting point is 00:31:38 went out and we were in Atlanta and meeting as many people as possible. Yeah. I mean, we're just getting to the place, honestly, where we can talk about that part of the journey. Yeah. I mean, it was, like, super rough. Yeah. A lot of people told us no. And, like, not the, like, no, I'm not interested, polite no's. We were getting, like, no, like, get out of my office.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I don't like this. You're going to fail no's. And, you know, it took just us continuing to believe that, like, the thing that we saw that could really be a thing that we like could build we just had to figure out how to make that happen that we see this as as like assignment work right this is something that we feel uniquely called to do and didn't want that part of the process to uh to stop us but i mean when you don't get paid for years right it it's it years, it's difficult.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And we spent the first several years of the business really trying to figure out, one, how to make it happen. But then, two, how to keep it on a financial statement. Because you've got to pay everybody else that works for you around you. You cannot pay yourself at first. All the money goes back into the business. So it'll be the people that work for you, but they're the ones that are making money while you're struggling. There were years where it was like everybody in this joint is making more money than us. Like truly, we weren't paying ourselves anything.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But I mean, you've got to see it through. I mean, we kept going knowing that like there would be a day where we'd be able to participate too. And we just had to stick around long enough to make that happen. And that's why I was going to say, that's're forever grateful to the to the founding members of the club particularly in atlanta because they they bet on two guys and and a concept way before there was any proof in the pudding so we had people who signed up in 2015 to become members just because they they met us so they saw uh they saw a post on instagram and they just liked the concept and they wanted to truly support.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And that's why, like, every time we talk, we always say, like, first and foremost, we just work here and we're happy to serve and be a part of this organization. But it's member led. It's all about the members and the 12,000 plus people who have invested, but particularly the people in Atlanta, the founding members there who made it possible. Salute to Mayor Dickens in Atlanta, who was a founding member of the club, who recently got elected as the mayor of Atlanta. That's how long and deep-rooted we are in that community. I was going to ask, so now, who handles checks and balances, right? $200 a month.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Sometimes a $200 is going to get declined. So who calls that person? And if that person decides to come to the gathering spot after they've been declined six times, who says excuse me? Ryan calls you personally. Hey, it's Ryan. My grandmother used to say,
Starting point is 00:34:14 I ain't talking about anybody, but I'm talking about somebody. Yeah. I mean, we have a team internally, right? So that's actually TK's responsibility inside of the business. That's TK. Yeah, that's like so. So for everybody out there,'s actually TK's responsibility inside of the business. That's TK's team. Yeah, like so.
Starting point is 00:34:25 So for everybody out there, talk to TK. Yes, yes. But honestly, that hasn't been a huge problem for us. I mean, there's a lot of things that you get with
Starting point is 00:34:32 the TGS membership and, you know, yes, access to the space itself and the programs, but like the people, right? And so people don't want to miss out on being able to continue to build
Starting point is 00:34:41 those relationships. Well, Ryan Wilson, TK Peterson, thank you for joining us, man. Yes, I think you guys are so inspirational to me, just the way, because I remember when the gathering spot first started, my girlfriend Janae, she was on board from the beginning. She would always be like, we have to go to the gathering
Starting point is 00:34:54 spot. And so, just to see just how far you guys have come in this period of time, and I know it definitely wasn't easy. Some people probably felt like it wouldn't ever get done the way that it has. I congratulate you because it's a huge deal. And I think people watching this should all
Starting point is 00:35:09 say, how can I be a member? How can I join the community? Even if you're not in Atlanta, D.C., L.A., like you said, there are communities in Chicago and Detroit and New York and other spaces where they can also be a member and support. Yeah, please come join us and be a part of this collective. It's a really special time for us as as a company and you know to tk's point earlier we're just extreme
Starting point is 00:35:31 we can't yeah we're just grateful people like janae like like shaka like like the only reason we made it was because the community decided that they weren't gonna let the business go under even folks that y'all seen here i mean dr key Dr. Key, the Village Market, Pinky, Slutty Vegan, we've been a part of this tribe together, really growing together and that is something that we don't take lightly
Starting point is 00:35:51 and so anybody that's interested in joining the work, we'd love to have you at TGS or at Greenwood. All right, well thank you guys for joining us
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Starting point is 00:36:45 Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this couple that had a 12-hour flight. They got on a plane, and one got upgraded. So he decided to sit first class and left his wife in the back. It was a 12-hour flight, and his wife was pissed off about it. She has every right to be. So we're asking 800-585-1051, what would you do? Hello, who's this? Hi, my name is Charlie from Austin, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Hi, guys. Hey, Charlie. I had to call in and weigh in today because this had me feeling some type of way. Go ahead, Mama. I just feel like that's your wife. You shouldn't even let her at all. If anything, if you wanted to use your whatever,
Starting point is 00:37:23 if you wanted to use your points out bad, you should have offered your wife to go be comfortable, and you stayed in the county. I agree. You should have never left your wife. Okay, so would you leave if your man was like, or your husband was like, you go sit in first class, and I'll stay back here, would you leave him?
Starting point is 00:37:37 No, because this is a 12-hour flight. I want to be with my man. That's right. If anything, I just would have been like, no, no, thank you. We're good. I really do pray that any woman that gets put in this situation That's right. I really do pray that any woman that gets put in this situation meets their happily ever after in economy. Hello, who's this? Kelvin.
Starting point is 00:37:56 What's your name? Kelvin, Kelvin. Kelvin, what's up? Where you calling from? Kelvin, Kelvin. I'm from Old Bridge. Old Bridge, okay. Old Bridge. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You're traveling with your girl, your significant other, all right? Or your man, whatever it is, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of a sudden. My girl. My girl. I'm just. I'm not assuming.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That's it. We'll make that clear real quick. All right. All right. I'm not assuming. You with your girl. 12-hour flight. They like, yo, Kelvin.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yo, you could upgrade, but we only got one, 12-hour flight. They like, yo, Calvin, yo, you can upgrade, but we only got one 12-hour flight. You know, you got the pillow, the comforter, the bigger TV, you know, the beds that lay down. Three full meals. You can take the Timbs off and relax. You've been working all day, your wife in the back with your girl in the back. A foot massage. All right, all right. There's only going to be one or two things happening in this case.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Go ahead. It's either my wife is taking that one or two things happening in this case. Go ahead. It's either my wife is taking that seat or I'm standing in the back of my wife. Simple. Simple as that. I'm going to explain to her what's going on. This is what they offer you. You're trying to have this experience. No?
Starting point is 00:38:57 All right. So we're going to sit right here. And not me. No. Take this flight. All right. All right, well, I'll tell you how it is. I'm not giving up that seat.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Me and my wife, we're going to split it six and six. That's disrespectful. No, we're going to split it six and six. I don't even want that. Me, we're going to be here. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. What if she said, how long y'all been together?
Starting point is 00:39:15 My wife? Yes. 27 years. What if she said, for the next 27, we're going to split it. So I'm going to be with some other guy for half. And I'm going to be with you for the other half. You going to do that? No, I ain't doing that. Exactly. 12 and 12. We're going to hang it. We're going to be with you for the other half. You going to do that? Nah, I ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Exactly. 12 and 12. We going to hang it. We going to be in the economy together. By the way, I've been in that situation. 12 hours? It's been, I mean, from like LA to maybe, I think it was LA to New York flight.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And I told my wife, take the first class flight. And she was like, no, I want to see what you in the economy. I would never do that. Well, you don't, nobody wants to sit with me anyway, because I'm sleeping the whole 12 hours. I don't care. I sleep the whole flight. I'm going to let my wife take that first class. We're going to sleep together.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's not even about talking or nothing. It's just about us being with each other. We're going to be together in first class. We're going to be together in economy. That's just how it goes. All right. Well, we got rumors on the way, Yeezy? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And since we're talking about flights, we'll tell you about somebody who says that they were physically assaulted ahead of getting on their flight. I hope this causes an argument between you and Gia later. I hope she has flashbacks. There's going to be a part two of this book. No, this actually happens a lot because we travel a lot. So sometimes there will only be one first class seat,
Starting point is 00:40:18 so she'll take the first class seat. Or sometimes she'll be like, babe, you take it. You DJ last night. I know you're tired. You take it. So it depends. I mean, we don't care about that. What if somebody take a selfie with Gia in Economy
Starting point is 00:40:27 and they take a picture of you in first class and be like, look at this n***a Envy in first class while I'm with his wife in Economy? Envy's like, I'm not insecure. I'm not insecure. I see insecurity all over your face. I see you thinking about that right now. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Stuff like that does not bother me. That's my wife, my lady, my queen. But if you go back to check on her and she fell asleep and her head is leaning on the guy's shoulder. And it's Maxwell. He also. First of all, Maxwell would never be in a condo. There was only one seat left. There was only one seat left. There was only one seat left.
Starting point is 00:41:07 She sits next to Maxwell, and now her head is next to Maxwell. What if Maxwell only decided to sit in the economy because he saw Gia back there in the economy? He was like, you know what? Somebody else take my first class seat. I want to trade. What if he walked back there and then toasting and having drinks and laughing? Laughing the ass off. You're in first class trying to sleep.
Starting point is 00:41:24 All you hear is, and laughter. What you going to do? What you going to do? And they're sharing a blanket. See, y'all go too far. Y'all go too far. Y'all go too far.
Starting point is 00:41:36 That's funny as hell. Maxwell goes, and then under the blanket goes, you would cry. I played too much. Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 00:46:51 Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. We have Siza Pina flipping her jersey. And we also have Jenny Tips. Hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Welcome, guys. How's it going? Good. Good. And to talk about real estate this morning and everything that's going on in the real estate market. I feel like I just saw y'all. Yeah, you did. In Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Deja vu. So what's going on in the real estate market right now? We're seeing it's low inventory, interest rates are high. Is this a good time for people to continue to buy real estate? I believe so. Right now, the market is shifting a little bit, right? So you should definitely look into more into rental properties now, right? Because no matter what, interest rates are going up, but there's no inventory.
Starting point is 00:47:39 There's a housing shortage when it comes to rentals and buying properties. That's not going away anytime soon. So you're at a point now you have two choices. Either you buy that house and pay a $3,000 mortgage, if it's something to live in, or you're going to rent it from somebody else and pay them $3,000 a month. So that's pretty much a choice when it comes to an owner-occupied property. So for somebody trying to buy their first home,
Starting point is 00:48:02 would you suggest a multi-unit home? For sure. 100%. Why is that? It's their first home, right? Yeah, for sure. Because they're going to have that income coming in. So they don't always have to depend on their job for some odd reason.
Starting point is 00:48:15 If they get laid off or things happen, you get sick, at least you got that income. I mean, our first home was a two-family. Mine too. Yeah. So what that means is what the one floor pretty much pays the mortgage and your floor is pretty much what you're using to save yeah you use it to save you save a couple dollars you have a car payment you want to go on vacation now you don't have to stress as much you have a better quality of life now what about I've heard
Starting point is 00:48:40 people give the advice that you should not buy like a condo because of the Housing Association fees that come with that. I think it's everybody's lifestyle choice. Right. When you buy a condo, yeah, you pay homeowners association. There's pros and cons. You don't ever have to cut your grass. You get a pool.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You never have to clean it. They clean it for you. There's a laundry room. There's a gym. There's so many amenities. You know, there's an elevator. You don't ever have to worry about the maintenance of the elevator or, you know, cleaning up the trash around the property. If your toilet gets messed up, they have a company there that will fix it for you.
Starting point is 00:49:11 So all of that is included. The downfall of buying a condo is where you got to do your research is when there's, what do they call that? An assessment. Assessment, yeah. So you might end up inheriting an assessment. So if the condo is about 10, 20 years old and they need to do updates, you might be responsible for that. We've done a zillion and one real estate seminars trying to encourage people and teach people how to buy real estate. So what do you say to people?
Starting point is 00:49:36 First and foremost, I don't have enough money. How much money do I need to buy my first property, investment property? I think that's the main question we always get, right? How much do I have to save? It all depends what kind of loan you're going to do. You're going to do a FHA loan. It's only 3.5% down. Conventional now also has for owner-occupied properties
Starting point is 00:49:55 a 5% loan too. So it all depends. If you use one of those programs, you don't have to put a lot of money. If you go the regular conventional route and do 20, 25% down, at that point, you'll get a better rate. When you make an offer,
Starting point is 00:50:09 more people are going to look at your offer a little bit more serious. That's pretty much the difference when it comes to it. But it all depends, man, in what market you're in. It all depends. Tri-state area, right now,
Starting point is 00:50:19 let's say if you wanted to buy a property that's $500,000, you're looking at, you need anywhere between $20,000 to $25, five thousand in the bank and i also didn't want to have to pay pmi and i know when i was buying my first house because that's something too that i wasn't aware of with the realtor trying to sell me a house he was like oh you only have to put down you know you could put down ten percent but then i would also have to pay mortgage insurance and that was kind of pricey because that was about a thousand dollars a month for the house that I was buying. And that's not money that you get back, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:48 for anything that just goes straight to them. Yeah, that's true. So, I mean, it just depends on would you rather have the money in the bank or would you rather not pay that extra money monthly? That's the whole thing, right? Because think about it. All right. I'm going to pay the PMI, right? But now I have another 10% to play with. I could take that 10% and get a rental property and make all that money every month, right? Say that now I take that 10%, I put it over here and that's going to make me another $3,000, $5,000 a month. The PMI, if you're in a market like this one, right? Where values are through the roof and they keep on going up. Once you hit that threshold that you have more than 20% equity in your property, then you call up your bank and they take the PMI away. You just have to get to that threshold.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah. But in an escalating market like this one that just makes no sense how values are, it could be a two-year thing, a three-year thing. But that whole time that you use that other percentage of money you had, you could have already made $50,000 to $60,000 on your money. Now, for people who decide to do like an adjustable interest rate on their mortgage why would somebody do that just what are the circumstances that you would say this is a type of loan I want to get well usually even with the commercial properties right anything over five six units they're always five year terms right so it's five years and then you have to redo the loan again but
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think right now an adjustable is a good choice. Right now, when I looked at the rates this morning, the third year was like 5. Almost 5.9. 15 year was like 5.6. Adjustable was like still in the fours, like late fours. So even though, oh, man, you know, I want a 30 year mortgage. But I think right now the way that everything is going, a five year mortgage might be a good option. Now, how many units do you guys own now? So we currently own and manage and also have projects that we're building now from the ground up around the country of 3,000 units.
Starting point is 00:52:34 3,000 units. Yep. Is there a cap of how many units you don't want? Like, when do you want to stop? You have 3,000 units, so that means you're getting income from all those 3,000 units or will get income when do you want to stop when is it enough so i think hold on a second because i want to say what drove caesar to be this crazy monster that he is is that he ran into a guy want to say like well how many years ago you ran into this this guy the the jewish guy that he told you he had ten thousand oh yeah this guy told me he had ten thousand units yeah so once caesar
Starting point is 00:53:03 heard him say that he turned into this monster. And I don't think he's going to stop. He'll tell you, okay, 5,000. Then he'll say 10,000, but he's not going to stop. He's not going to stop. No, he's not. I don't think so. Like, now it's 5,000 units, then I'll slow down.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And then my daughter's going to graduate from high school next year. So then once she takes over, I figure I'll slow down a little bit. But in real estate, there really is no end game. You could just keep on going, keep on going, keep on going. It's totally up to you. Being that there is low inventory, do you look at it also as a good time to say, I should sell some of these properties because it's at a high? So what we've been doing with that is our smaller properties, right?
Starting point is 00:53:40 Like anything on the four units we have been selling, right? Because the one thing about real estate, you got to learn how to adapt to the different markets so we've been selling the smaller properties and then we're taking a lot of that profit and we're putting that in the midwest i see the midwest i see the tri-state area about five ten years ago so there's still a lot of opportunity over there and you get more for for your money than you do out here in the tri-state area so for people looking to invest and might not be able to afford big markets like New York, New Jersey, LA, or even Atlanta now and parts of Florida.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Where would you recommend that they start looking to invest? Right now, as far as rentals, we've been focusing on the Midwest the last year or so. Chicago, we like Milwaukee, Ohio. Those areas have a cheaper price point. So when I first started in the tri-state area in New Jersey, I was paying $20,000 to $40,000 a unit, right, per door. Now, our doors in the tri-state area are anywhere between $150,000 to $200,000 a door, right, in a matter of five to ten years. In the Midwest, I'm paying $20,000 to $40,000 a door. And on some of the
Starting point is 00:54:46 properties already that I bought in Chicago, the doors are already worth $100,000 a unit in a matter of less than a year and a half. So that excites me. So I definitely tell everybody, when it comes to rental properties, I will definitely think about the Midwest. There's still a lot of opportunity in the tri-state area because you got to think about it right before if you bought a let's say just simple numbers of three family you paid five hundred thousand right you're gonna get a rate of three percent right so at that point let's say all in with the mortgage insurance taxes everything you're at let's say twenty five hundred dollars right around there give or take right boom but you were only making fifteen hundred dollars in apartment right so you're at forty five hundred dollars so when you take that away two thousand dollars is
Starting point is 00:55:29 your profit every month right that was the market when rates were low rates are high now right boom you're paying five hundred thousand dollars for that same three family right five hundred thousand rate to hire six percent six percent you have three thousand mortgage taxes insurance everything 6%, 6%, you are at 3,000. Mortgage, taxes, insurance, everything, let's say you are at 4,000. But guess what? Now the rent in that apartment is higher. So now your rent to income went from $4,500 to $7,500, right, a month. And that's right now in Patterson, Newark, all these areas have, the rents have gone up so high, which is crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:56:03 Because I don't know how people can afford that. but when you do the numbers on the higher interest rate you're still making three thousand dollars a month over here you were making two thousand twenty five hundred so yeah rates went up but now you make more money if you're a landlord right because the rents are up all right we have more with caesar flipping new jersey and jenny tips when we come back envy angela yee charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Flippin' New Jersey, Cesar, and Jenny Tips. We are doing a seminar July 31st.
Starting point is 00:56:33 So for people listening and never been to a real estate seminar, why is your real estate seminar good? And why is it better than other people's seminars? And why is it a place to get a lot of knowledge? The most important thing, right, is affordable, number one, one right there is no upsell right at our seminars we pretty much break everything down credit buying your first property what's fha mortgage uh what's the what kind of attorney the attorney review process how does that work uh what realtor should i use hard money loans investment loans developing uh multi-family commercial uh airbnb now uh wholesaling we pretty much break everything down when it comes to real
Starting point is 00:57:14 estate anything you can think about and we show people like what questions they should ask when hiring these professionals too so it's not like we just bring people up there to blow smoke up your ass but it's like we actually teach the people exactly what to look for, their expectation in hiring each individual professional. Another reason I like about it is that people actually purchase homes from the seminar. Like they come back and say, hey, I followed you guys and I purchased a home. I followed you guys and I got my credit fix. I followed you guys and I got a loan. So that you guys and I got my credit fix. I followed you guys and I got a loan.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So that is July 31st at the Jacob Javits Center. It's back. So if you want to learn it, it's not just real estate. We talk about everything. We talk about credit repair. It helps you with your credit repair. Hard money lending, conventional lending, property management, contractors, anything that has to do with real estate, we break down it. And not only that, we show you pictures and we bring in people that actually do it.
Starting point is 00:58:06 CZ and I and Jen, we don't do wholesaling. That's something that we don't do. But we bring in somebody that actually does it that can explain that. We don't do Airbnb, but we bring in somebody that actually does Airbnb and can guide you how to do it. Many cases, we brought people from auction.com where we purchase our properties. And they tell you how to guide through the auction site and the website to actually purchase a property and like like caesar said there is no upsell so once you go in there to speak to people it's not like well you
Starting point is 00:58:36 get there and they charge you a hundred dollars to talk to them not that at all it's really about the learning process now one of the big reasons we haven't been doing these seminars because so many times people come up to us and say how how can I invest with you guys? How can I learn more? How can I get in on some of your deals? So you came up with this idea. Yep. Break it down. So I think it's genius. I thought it was dope. Like you said at our seminars, people are always like, okay, what's the next step? How can I get in a deal with you guys? After our seminars, we never really had anything after the seminar because we wanted to do the right project right the right platform that we
Starting point is 00:59:11 because even with the seminars when you think about our seminars we it's almost like we're going back in time and saying to ourselves when we first started in real estate what was missing what help that we need that nobody ever gave to us right so same thing with this now we have a real estate membership platform right it's called flip number two dao dao so real estate dao is pretty much an educational platform where you're gonna have the education part our real estate network and the most important our seminars, how could we co-invest in the deal with you guys? Right? So in essence, flip to dial any question you ever had about real estate. How do I qualify for FHA mortgage? You click a button, answer's there. How do I get a hard money loan? Click a button, the answer's there. How do I, I bought a piece of land. How
Starting point is 01:00:01 do I develop this property? You click a button, the answer's there. Anything that you ever thought about that you needed to know as far as real estate will be at your fingertips. Think of Flip to Dow as a real estate black book. Now, the other thing is, all right, I got all the education part down pat, right? I learned what wholesaling is. I learned what a hard money loan is. What do I do after this, right? You have all these educational things out there where you buy something and it gives you information that you could have probably looked up online, right? It doesn't give you the resources.
Starting point is 01:00:31 With Flip to DAO, it gives you the resources. Now, besides education, now you're ready, you learned. How do I get? I'm in Ohio. I need a realtor here that works with investors, right? That gets investment properties, right? Because there's always different kind of people that you need in your platform, right? And in your network.
Starting point is 01:00:52 You click a button, you have a realtor that concentrates in multifamily properties in Ohio. All right, I bought a property in Florida. I need to add a second floor to it. Click a button. You need an architect. The answer is there. Now, the reason this came up is what we did was we started, we talked to everybody who did real estate deals around the country.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And we talked about the good things and the bad things about the real estate market and what was happening. So, for instance, when me and Yee purchased homes in Detroit, the most difficult thing for us was to find a contractor. Yep. Right? Yee went through, how many contracts did you go through, Yee? Probably like five, four, five.
Starting point is 01:01:27 She went through four or five. I went through two. And usually is I waited for her to see how it was, right? Not this time. And sometimes they were good and sometimes they weren't too good. And I lost a lot of money doing it. And it was a lot of different things that I didn't know. So we said, let's, in the site, let's put something where if you're in let's say you invest in milwaukee and need a contractor or
Starting point is 01:01:49 need a property manager or need something we can guide you to people that actually do it in that market that have had success that do good jobs because i lost a lot of money in the detroit one and i'm sure you did too right you i wouldn't say well i mean i still made money no but you lost money with it with the contract you had to change a couple times. But yeah, no, I definitely could have made more money than I made off the property. I think that's the hardest thing when you don't live in a place to, and you're trying to find people to do work, and you don't know who's good and who's not good.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I wish that I would have seen ratings for people, seen some of the work that they've done, because I know that sometimes you can get really desperate just to get a contractor and we've heard some really horror stories about trying to work with a contractor the person does half the job or they don't do the work properly up to code and then they run off with the money yeah you know I've heard of people who bought a new home and then ended up having to sell it because the work was done was so bad that it would cost too much for them to actually even repair how bad the work was. Correct. So on this site, that'll guide you through those different areas. So if you're looking for somebody in Miami, in Milwaukee, in Chicago, in Detroit,
Starting point is 01:02:51 in New York, New Jersey, there's a platform there where we actually guide you and tell you who's done work, and they can show you their pictures and show you what they do. Yeah, because you've got to vet people out, too. Everybody's a damn contractor. For sure. Everybody knows somebody who do this and who does that. So it'll be licensed professionals.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yes. Okay. Because that's the other thing too. You get people who aren't licensed to do your plumbing or your electrical work and it's over. Like that never turns out well. That's right. So that's the main thing with the site. And then also, which is the biggest thing, is people always ask, how can I invest with you guys?
Starting point is 01:03:22 And we never take anybody's money. And the reason being is I don't want to be never take anybody's money. And the reason being is I don't want to be responsible for anybody's money. That's celebrity, that's athletes, that's anybody. But now there'll be a way where people can actually invest and be a part owner on some of the projects that we actually buy. Yeah. So they'll see, they'll see the actual, whether it's a multifamily or flip, and then it's going to evolve from there, but there'll be actually, they'll actually be able to see the property, the condition, what we're buying it at, what's going to be the repair value, what's the rental
Starting point is 01:03:49 income that we're going to get. And then they'll have a dashboard and they're going to see how much money they're going to get monthly based on the rents and the expenses we collect. So the dope thing about that is why I was super duper excited is everybody always asks, how can I walk through the process? So let's say it's a multi-unit building that costs, let's say, $100,000 and you can invest $100, right? So you invest $100. So now you're a part owner of this building. A small part, but you're a smart part owner. Definitely a partner. But you're a partner. So now how does it work? How does somebody who invest $100 on this $100,000 building, how do they make money? So pretty much we're gonna fractionalize um the real estate into real estate shares right so that hundred dollars when you
Starting point is 01:04:29 think about it right think about it right now you have a hundred dollars in the bank how much interest do you earn a year on that hundred dollars point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero eight okay so if you have a hundred dollars so you take a hundred dollars right you buy a share and flip to down right now that hundred dollars on average right now our returns on our real estate investments are anywhere between sixteen percent so let's say about 22%, right? Let's say a year. So that means on that $100, you'll make $18 a year. Within the bank, you'll make about?
Starting point is 01:05:14 Zero. Got you. And then if it was $5,000 and you got, hey, I got five grand, I'm not doing anything with it, you'll make about $900 a year. Now, question with that. So you get to see where the money goes and how the money's and you get to see who pays. So you get to see the whole process of how your money is being spent and do the whole project. Yep. And it's pretty much what we're building is we're trying to build a community, right? Where everybody is a part of it. Everybody is learning. Everybody is investing together. Cause that's very important, right? The whole thing is we
Starting point is 01:05:43 don't want to just do a platform where, you know, sign up, give us your money. This is what it is. No, we want you to be a part of it. All right. We have more with Cesar, Flippin' New Jersey and Jenny Tips. When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Flippin' New Jersey, Cesar and Jenny Tips. How can you guarantee that people will actually make money and not lose money? How can you guarantee that the real estate that you have people investing in is good real estate?
Starting point is 01:06:14 Well, the most important thing for us is, right, is we buy under market value real estate, right? When you look at all the other platforms out there and they raise capital to buy properties, usually they buy it at retail costs. We buy under market value. So when you invest with us, even that a hundred dollars, we're buying properties on the market value. So not only are you going to get a great return in your investment, right? You're also going to get equity over time because we bought the property on the market value. And we've been doing that successfully over and over for the last 15 years, because we're not deal junkies market value. And we've been doing that successfully over and over for the last 15 years
Starting point is 01:06:45 because we're not deal junkies, right? That we're just buying deals to buy deals. No, right? There's a method to all the madness, like my wife says. You know, as long as you buy on the market value, you're never going to get hurt. And that's the number one thing that we do.
Starting point is 01:06:58 So now for people that want to get more information and want to get involved with this, they want to invest or they want to, you know, start right now. What's the website so they can do that it's www.flip the number two dowdy a oh what is Dow stand for decentralized autonomous organization okay and a question and also the seminar which is coming up July 31st now for people who don't know what will they learn from the
Starting point is 01:07:21 seminar what will they get out of the seminar it says here real estate meets the metaverse so we're gonna to talk a little bit about web3 blockchain technology uh land in the metaverse stuff like that because everybody has an interest in it i think that the future of finance is web3 and blockchain technology is definitely going to be geared to that like i know right now the crypto market nft market is kind of crazy right but that part of it the Web3 blockchain technology, it definitely is the future of finance. So if you want more information,
Starting point is 01:07:50 go head over to Flip2DAO. That's Flip, the number two, D-A-O.com. And also don't forget, the seminar is going down July 31st. So if you want to learn more about real estate and not just in the metaverse, real real estate that you can actually touch and also the metaverse, there'll that you can actually touch and also the
Starting point is 01:08:05 metaverse there'll be uh credit repair people hard money lenders conventional lenders um there will be appraisals uh property managers contractors they're going to break down where the deals have gotten from auction.com the hubzoo.com and where they get the deals uh eyl will be there as well talking about some of their yep their real estate stuff is somebody do EYL will be there as well, talking about some of their real estate stuff and some of their due. Ian will be there as well, talking about how to get some of his, use some of his money,
Starting point is 01:08:30 not just in real estate, but in the stock market as well. So it's going to be a big day. That's July 31st at the Jacob Javis Center. Yep, that's for our seminar. And then one of the things, right, when we first did our seminar, right, we did a different seminar than everybody else, right?
Starting point is 01:08:44 So for Flip to Dial, what we're doing different right now right which has never been done before i almost forgot about that yeah you forgot the most important part that's right yeah so for flip to dow right now uh as far as our what you want to call it early bird special i don't i wouldn't say early bird but just like you know welcome yeah so people that sign up now to flip to dow are going to have a chance to win a house a three-family house now not a house that's 10 000 nope not a house that's 50 000 the house is currently valued at how much 500 500 000 half a million dollars five thousand dollars now so if you go to the seminar which is j July 31st, or you sign up to Flip to Dow, you have an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:09:28 We're going to give this away during Christmas, so it's a perfect Christmas gift. And it's a three-family house. You can do whatever you want with this three-family house. So it's ready to rent. So you can rent it out. Oh, it's renovated and everything. It's renovated. If Envy wins, I know this is set up.
Starting point is 01:09:40 No, we hired a third party to handle it. We're doing everything on the up and up. My cousin won't win. I'll so i'll be like now wait a minute i'd rather not give it to a cousin it's a three-family house and each floor gets how much rent you're probably looking at anywhere as far as cash flow a month between 5500 to 6500 right um but you could do whatever you want with that you could do whatever you want they own house. You can do whatever you want. They own it free and clear. They back taxes? No. No.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Everything is free and clear. Are there any liens on the house? No, no, no. Once you take over the property, you're responsible for your taxes and all that stuff. But you're going to get clear title, right? The house is brand new. And we're not just going to give you the house. We're not going to walk.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Because let's say somebody wants it out of state, right? We're going to help you with the property management. We're going to guide you in that direction. For free? Yeah. As part of the sweepstakes, yeah yeah and we'll document it on the platform so everybody will learn as well so you can do whatever you want so you can keep the rent which is fifty five hundred to sixty five hundred dollars a month every and clear you can sell it and go buy
Starting point is 01:10:38 yourself a Rolls Royce if you want you can live in it if you want you can go take a vacation you could you go buy some Rolexes. You could buy a Cuba link. No, no, no, no. You could do it. It's yours. Yeah, you could do it. Yeah, you could do that.
Starting point is 01:10:50 But, you know, the whole... If it was me and I won this house, I would refinance the house, take the money out, and buy more property, right? That's what I would do. And then cash flow every month. Again, you could do whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:11:01 You keep it long term. You could refinance the house. You could flip it. It's totally up to you. But again, nobody has ever given away a house. Cesar makes it seem so easy, though. You could refinance and buy more property. We're going to guide you.
Starting point is 01:11:13 We're going to guide you with those questions, right? That's why we're doing Flip to Dow, right? So we can answer any question that you ever had about real estate. But again, it's a $500,000 house. Is there a pool? I'm kidding. There's definitely not a pool. There's a backyard, though. house. Is there a pool? I'm kidding. There's definitely not a pool. There's a backyard, though.
Starting point is 01:11:26 You can put an above-ground pool if you want. Now, let me tell you how this house is nice. I tried to buy the house, right? Because it's a house. I was trying to sell the house. No, I was trying to buy the house. It's a three-family house. It has a big yard.
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's on a nice street. There's something across the street where you don't have to worry about other neighbors. It's a perfect house to rent out. You can make money. You can sit back and just collect rent for the next 50 years of your life if you wanted to. But we felt like, you know, people talk so much-ish about what... Envy, if you would have asked me, I would have told you not to use them. Because I wasn't using them.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Six months later. Yeah. Great. Well, anyway, but Angeli did give me those properties, so I can't be too mad. And you did make some money. I did. And he did buy me a Louis Vuitton bag I did break you off over that
Starting point is 01:12:07 And I broke off your boyfriend too right See And guess what I did with that bag That sounded weird right Broke off No I didn't break off like that Yes you did No I didn't but
Starting point is 01:12:15 You went down the street For some change And I bought her a bag You know what she did She brought the bag back That's okay I traded it in for something else That's alright
Starting point is 01:12:23 It happens I got a coat Okay oh wow A nice Louis Vuitton coat Oh wow I never would have okay. I traded it in for something else. That's alright. It happens. I got a coat. Okay. Oh, wow. A nice Louis Vuitton coat. Oh, wow. I never would have purchased that. I flipped it. You flipped it. Alright. It's the Breakfast Club. It's Cesar flipping New Jersey and Jenny Tips. It's the Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 01:12:53 cash. To enter and view official rules, visit BreakfastClubOnline.com. I was born a donkey. It's the donkey of the day. I can see you donkey. Donkey. Bunch of jay-jays. It's time for the donkey of the day yes donkey of the day goes to gravity diagnostics in covington kentucky all right this donkey of the day today is near and dear to my heart because at the top of the year i made a commitment to myself that 2022 is the year of boundaries.
Starting point is 01:13:28 OK, if you have never read the incredible New York Times bestselling book, Set Boundaries, Find Peace, do yourself the biggest favor and go do that. It is by Nedra Glover-Tawwab. She's been a guest here on The Breakfast Club. She's been a guest on my weekly show on Comedy Central. The book Set Boundaries, Find Peace is a guide to reclaiming yourself. OK, she has a set boundaries workbook that you can purchase with the book as well. And the reason I love this book is because it because it's because it gives you the language to express what it is you may be feeling in regards to having boundaries. OK, what does setting healthy boundaries look like to you, whether it's work, relationships, smoking a joint, anything that has to do with other people. Boundaries have to be set, which is why I realized one reason. That's one reason I don't like to be outside. I took my old ass in these streets this past weekend to see my guy Andrew Schultz sell out Radio City Music Hall here in New York City.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Two shows, 12,000 people. And I went to the second show. The reason I went to the second show is because he was having an after party. I'm like, okay, I'm going to lay on the couch all day Saturday, get these naps in so I can be ready for tonight's festivities. And what I realized about myself is after this pandemic, I am very socially awkward, especially in a nightlife
Starting point is 01:14:38 setting. And you know why? Because I told y'all in 2022, that's the year of boundaries for me. And I don't know if y'all know or not but there are no healthy boundaries you can set in a club okay in fact you actually look like a complete jerk setting boundaries in a club if you don't want to be bothered why in the hell would you be at a club if you want to be tucked away in a little section with just you and your friends you could be doing that in the living room at your house okay i want to your friend's house
Starting point is 01:15:01 you can't really set boundaries at a club or any setting where you are there to be social and I need my boundaries now I'm saying all that to say the place where boundaries can be set is that work? Okay in fact work is the place other than your relationship where you can set the most boundaries and healthy boundaries are absolutely a Necessity in the workplace and Kevin Burling of Kentucky laid out a boundary for his manager at Gravity Diagnostics. In fact, it was a very simple request. And the request was, he asked him not to
Starting point is 01:15:32 celebrate his birthday at work. Well, Gravity Diagnostics did not respect their employees' wishes and they threw a birthday party anyway. And man, because of that, Kevin Burling got the greatest bidet gift of his life. Let's go to WKRC Local 12 for the report, please.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Kevin Burling had worked at Gravity Diagnostics for about 10 months in 2019. And because he suffers from anxiety disorders and panic attacks, he asked the company not to celebrate his birthday as it normally does for its workers. And that's when things started to go south. According to the lawsuit filed in Kenton County, the office manager forgot his request and still held a birthday party for Burling. That triggered a panic attack and he left and spent his lunch hour in his car. His bosses held a meeting about the incident, triggering another attack. At that point, company managers told him to leave for the weekend and then subsequently fired him,
Starting point is 01:16:24 telling him they were worried about him being angry and possibly becoming violent. Burling declined interview requests. His lawyer, Tony Bucher, says the company apparently was more concerned about others than his client's well-being. A jury believed Burling and this week awarded him $450,000 in damages, including $300,000 for mental anguish. I want my money. Okay, in fact, since y'all want to celebrate B-Days, and I told y'all not to, put it all in a birthday card. Write the check for the $450,000 and put it in a birthday card.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Okay, everybody not with all that noise on their B-Day. That man told y'all I didn't want no cake. I don't want no balloons. I don't want no balloons. I don't want everybody gathering around singing me happy birthday, even if it's the Stevie Wonder version. And it was Kentucky, so you know it wasn't the Stevie Wonder version. Okay, you don't know what the reasons were for not wanting to celebrate his born day. All right?
Starting point is 01:17:16 Kevin might have had religious reasons. Maybe he just didn't rock with y'all like that and would rather do that with his friends and loved ones. And actually, he did have a reason. His reason was because he said a B-Day celebration would bring back childhood memories surrounding his parents' divorce. Look, he don't even owe y'all an explanation. He told y'all he didn't want no birthday celebration.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Y'all can debate all day on whether this man overreacted or not, but there is no such thing as an overreaction when I set a boundary and you overstep said boundary. OK, and these are actually the worst boundaries to overstep because this is really all about you. You think that what you are doing, you know, for me is so great that it has to be done. Therefore, you're not really thinking about me. You're thinking about yourself and how it's going to make you look and how it's going to make you feel. You're not thinking about me. So now eat this lawsuit and run me my $450,000, okay? All boundary violations aren't physical.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Most are mental and emotional. Kevin said his supervisor chastised him for stealing his co-worker's joy, and called Kevin and told him, stop being a little girl. Look at those keywords, stealing his co-worker's joy. What about my joy? It's my birthday. You don't care about me. You care about yourself.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Imagine going to someone on their birthday and saying, if you don't let us have a party for you, then you will be stealing our joy. Come on, man. The nerve. When someone oversteps your boundaries, they are letting you know that what you want doesn't matter. Let me tell you something else what you want doesn't matter. Let me tell y'all something else. No is a complete
Starting point is 01:18:48 sentence. And you know what else is a complete sentence? Run me my money. Okay? Please give Gravity Diagnostics in Kentucky the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh now you are the donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You are the donkey The donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. All right. Kevin Burland, get your coins. Every red cent, all the money. Thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, $450,000.
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Starting point is 01:23:01 the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night, I would dream that my face was quote unquote normal or back to the way it was. And I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists
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Starting point is 01:24:20 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Feels like it's been like a decade since you've been up here. For real. Oh, God. It's been a long time. What's been going on with you, French? What you been up to? Working, working, staying out the way. Acting, music. Yeah, yeah. Just finished this project.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Getting ready to drop today. You know, so that's about it. Just staying out the way. So you back into, because you know, you gave up liquor. You gave up that life. Yeah. Are you still gave it up? Are you still away from home?
Starting point is 01:25:05 I'm still drunk and high. From before. From before. Yeah. I'm still drunk and high probably. Something went loose. But yeah, but you know, I had to. My body couldn't take it no more.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I did it so I couldn't take it no more. Do you feel better now that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel a million times better. You know, I feel the accomplishments. I feel the losses. I feel everything, you know, at 100%. Back then, you know, you just a million times better you know i feel the accomplishments i feel the losses i feel everything you know at 100 back then you know you just anything happened you know we celebrate every day you just take a shot you go to the next celebration the next yeah
Starting point is 01:25:33 especially like in la and new york like every day somebody's celebrating something so you haven't slipped up at all no that's good that's. Testament to willpower. I saw you were celebrating your album release with our mayor, Eric Adams. Oh, yeah. Shout out to the mayor, Eric Adams. I think I'm the first one in New York to ever have the mayor come to the album listening party. I would have to second that. I think so, too.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I haven't heard of such a thing. But he also hasn't been mayor that long, either. But any mayor. What you mean? He's the mayor of New York City right now. Shout out to Eric. You know what I'm saying? He's a cool dude, man.
Starting point is 01:26:07 And he's trying to make a difference. Did you talk to him about not using lyrics to indict people? Yeah, definitely. You know what I'm saying? He's one of us. So he's definitely trying to help the kids. He just want to make sure that the kids are not going to do the same thing again. Now, are you still signed to Bad Boy?
Starting point is 01:26:22 No. No, no longer signed to Bad Boy. I mean, I'm sure your contract was up. I I found the first one to complete a contract with bad boy Shot the puff man shot the puff. He was definitely a mentor. He's still a big brother. Love him to death now I know I saw I think it was in a blue chill song You said that you passed up that beef with Diddy and drake i think it was it was something going on i like i didn't really know exactly the details of it but i know um i had a birthday party that iggy azalea threw for me on a boat and um when i got there drake was there waiting for me
Starting point is 01:26:56 and and puff had came in his own little boat and that was the first time they met after they was going to the altercation yeah but i was already talking to they met after it was going through. Since the altercation, yeah. Yeah, but I was already talking to Puff before that. I was like, whatever y'all got going on, y'all need to dead that. You know what I'm saying? They're both like my best friends. So I'm like, y'all need to dead that. So I'm glad that they didn't even know that each other was coming to the party. When they came, they just spent the whole night talking to each other,
Starting point is 01:27:17 and I was like, see? You know what I mean? I think that's better anyway because when you're planning to meet somebody, you come with a bunch of people, but if it's just a night out, you might come with one or two, and then you could actually have a conversation without people around you yeah i didn't tell drake puff was gonna be there and i didn't tell puff drake was gonna be there so i waited until they got there and you know and there was and it was good you know good friends before that so when they got there they just sat down and just
Starting point is 01:27:38 you know spoke the whole night and i'm like you see that was best friends to start with and i see you squashed a lot of your beefs that you've had throughout the last couple of years. I thought it was with Jim and Cam and 50. So why did you think you had to do that now? Was you just over it? Or what made you say, you know what, let's just let it go? You know, it's just like when you beef and you feel handicapped. You can't handle nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:02 You can't, you know, you can't move here. You can't do this. It's like you feel like, you know, you're stuck to a little space you know i'm saying i want to expand i done beefed my whole career since you know me 15 years ago right since you know me i've been beefing whatever these kids is doing whatever's going on i done did it i done ran circles around i done did it 10 times so i know what beef can bring you, but then I know what talent and what longevity can bring you and what showing love can bring you.
Starting point is 01:28:29 You know what I'm saying? So I know both. But it doesn't mean that, you know, you're going to let anybody, you know, say whatever they want. But it's just, you know, you rather pick the money and pick, you know, the love.
Starting point is 01:28:39 You know what I'm saying? You got to grow up, too. Yeah. And what about, did you ever get a chance to talk to Thug? Because I know you and Thug were going back and forth at one time. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Me and Thug, me and Thug got no problem. That's why I stood out, too. Yeah, about, did you ever get a chance to talk to Thug? Because I know you and Thug were going back and forth at one time. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Me and Thug got no problem. That's why I set out too. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Free YSL, free Gunna for everybody. And you also survived the Kardashian curse. You talk about that. Not too many people survived that Kardashian curse. I was basically saying that, like, you know, there is no curse.
Starting point is 01:29:03 That's why I'm still doing my thing. I think that's what I was saying in the song. I was like, there is no curse, so I'm doing my thing. And Travis doing his thing. And shout out to them. I just feel like when you go out with them or have a relationship with them or anybody at their caliber, I feel like that the media start picking up on your relationship life and forget about your talent life.
Starting point is 01:29:23 You know what I'm saying? Your music life, your acting life, whatever it is. It overshadows everything. Yeah, it overshadows everything. You become this reality star where that's not really the goal. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:32 It could be playing basketball. It could do whatever it is. It takes away from your game and they be like, yo, this guy is now this, this, because he go out with this, this. You know what I'm saying? So that label just changed.
Starting point is 01:29:42 It did used to be funny to see you on the Kardashians. I'm not going to lie. Because French is always French. He never changes. It used to be mad funny. Like, yo, French know what I'm saying? So that label just changed. It used to be funny to see you on the Kardashians, I'm not going to lie. Because French is always French. You never change. It used to be mad funny, like, yo, French is on the Kardashians right now. Are you still top five, Sniper?
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah, I might be top two. You haven't slowed down yet? He's not number two. When's French going to settle down? Man, honestly, I just feel like I can't give whoever it is the time they want, because I'm just so focused on doing what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? And I know some of them be like, honestly, I just feel like I can't give whoever it is the time they want because I'm just so focused on doing what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:07 And I know some of them be like, nah, you need somebody to ride with you and be there with you until they're right there with you. And you be like, yo, I got to go on these 30-day shows and this and that. I have to club. It's hard, and you want to give somebody your all when you go out with them. And I don't feel like I'm in that space right now. You think you ever been in love? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I've been in love before. Ever had your heart broken? Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Plenty of times. Plenty of times. You don't want to feel your heart breaking. No, because you got to go through that early, because if you go through that late, you don't
Starting point is 01:30:39 want to be going through no heartbreaks after you're 30. You ain't going to know how to handle it. Nah, I feel like you the heartbreaker. I can't see you. Nah. Nah,'t see that nah no i really don't i really don't they know i mean they know what it is now you usually play with music and sounds on your albums uh whether it was one of the first to do the afro beat sounding records or one of the ones that have to do the drill sounding records before i heard other new york artists with drake and beyonce and a bunch of people changing the direction a little bit with house sound and music.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Are you dibbling and dabbling with that as well? I think that was something that me and Max B started. You know what I'm saying? Like, me and Max B was doing it from back in the day since Coke Wave. You know what I'm saying? And it was just like, you know, as soon as Max heard Drake's album, he was like, yeah, that's my swag. It's a Jersey, D.C. vibe.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It's just a wavy vibe. I think, and Drake could do whatever he wants. He playing this so he could drop probably, you know, a rap album right after. He always do it. Right. Yeah, I mean, he did that with Controller and all that at that one point when he just touched the music.
Starting point is 01:31:35 You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I think it's definitely something different. Now, Max B, when we spoke to you, I think, a while ago, we was praying for good news. You said Max might be released soon. Yeah, well, he in the camps now. So that's a step down you know but you know bergen county when they give you 75 years they don't want to be letting you write out so yeah so so he's fighting free max b have
Starting point is 01:31:55 you ever healed fully from you know max and and chinks and i heard one of the songs now is like you still feel it to this day have you healed fully from any of that because you got you got to think about it me max b um chinks even zach my brother like we all were just you know the same crew making music you know so you go through it max beacons 75 years chinks die my little brother get deported it's like i'm the only one making music so it like it wasn't feeling the same you know i I'm saying so definitely I don't think I get my time to heal from the thing I don't think I give myself the time. What makes you still want to do
Starting point is 01:32:32 music going through all of that? Music is something that I do to get away from my job which is music so I gotta make music about making music it's like you know that's where I find you know my sanity that's like you know that's where I find you know my sanity that's like you know
Starting point is 01:32:46 that's my therapy alright we got more with French Montana when we come back that was French Montana's new joint off the album that's out today
Starting point is 01:32:53 morning everybody it's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy we are The Breakfast Club we're still kicking it with French Montana do you ever miss
Starting point is 01:33:01 that 20 year old or 22 year old French Montana from the Bronx where you wasn't a huge star, you could still move around, and you could enjoy life a little better? Do you ever miss that? No, because I would have been shot or killed.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Rest in peace, Pop Smoke. Rest in peace, Nipsey. We're praying for little TJ. I would have been shot because I felt like everybody loved me. I wasn't moving on defense. I thought everybody was happy I made it. And it wasn't that. It was the other way around.
Starting point is 01:33:30 You know, and your greatest threat comes from the inside. I'm glad that I moved to L.A. for a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad I did certain things because that could have protected me from something. Now when I move, even though I got no problem with nobody, I move and I got a problem with somebody. Me having beef with people kind of helped me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Because I was always'm saying because I was Always on point. Mm-hmm I was talking to Jim Jim says, you know Probably one of the toughest jobs to him is being a rapper because yeah, you're always on target like you're targeting It is like everybody knows where you're gonna be. Do you feel that way? And how do you make sure that you're not that target? What do you tell that some of these younger artists out there 20? I saw 21 Savage said that Jay-z said said, get a chef, get a lawyer, and get something else.
Starting point is 01:34:06 I think you spend all your money on security. I mean, when they caught Pops Mok, he didn't have no security with him. You know what I mean? And I think all the young artists
Starting point is 01:34:13 just need to know you need security. You need like one of those who's going to take a bullet. You know what I'm saying? And honestly, and I don't mean your homeboys neither
Starting point is 01:34:21 because when you have your homeboys with you and you're thinking that's security, that's not. That's just a case waiting to happen. What about when it comes to women? You know, as you said, you were the top two snipers.
Starting point is 01:34:31 But you have to be careful with that too. Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. I mean, we targets from every aspect, from every angle. All the women are looking for bags. Some of them, they think that's the way to get paid. Some people, you know, they've been taking their whole life. You know what I'm saying? Rob way to get paid some people you know they've been taking their whole life you know i'm saying robbers we come from you know you come from there i come
Starting point is 01:34:48 from there where you know people been robbing their whole life and you know if you look sweet they're gonna grab you you know i mean some people you know they just push the limit some i call them suicide bombers but they don't really care what was your biggest mistake you'd have to say in this industry what's the one thing you said damn i shouldn't have did that my biggest mistake was not forcing chinks to stay with me in l.a we were supposed to go to um coachella i was still going out with chloe and he was with me and malika was there and he was we were supposed to go together and i kept on telling him like yo let's go let's go she wants you to go like you know just trying to put them together and I kept on telling him like, yo, let's go, let's go. She wants you to go. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:26 just trying to put them together. You know what I'm saying? Hook them up. He was like, nah, I gotta go home. I got my daughter, this, this, this and that. That happened like two days right after that or like a day after that. So that was my biggest mistake.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I should have just forced him. But we was all drunk and I let my, you know, my pride and my ego say, oh, you want to stay with me? All right, out of here then. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:35:47 So he came back and it was just like a sad situation. What do you think is the smartest decision you've made? Start rapping, pick up a mic.
Starting point is 01:35:54 And let me ask you this. So you also recently were a top of a conversation because of Basketball Wives. Yeah. Right? DJ Duffy is on the show.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Yeah. And she had a baby. She's engaged and she was saying that she might take some time off from being on the road yeah and you were like all right you can't come back then yeah so let's talk about that for a second because i thought that was a big topic on social media yeah when you come into this game it doesn't come with your own schedule it comes with sacrifice you know i mean like you have you have to be able to make certain sacrifices if not then you can't be in this game you know so you can't just come in come in the game and just expect to make all this money get all this fame be this you know i'm
Starting point is 01:36:32 saying then you just want to stay home it don't happen like that if i'm sacrificing you got sacrifice but if somebody's like okay i just need like you know six especially a woman who had a baby yeah six months which she did have to take time off because yeah yeah yeah no of course that time and then i can come back that's not no that time she had to take off but she was talking about she was gonna retire right yeah she was like she was like you know i'm confused i'm like don't be confused because there's people that want to be in your position right yeah don't be confused that's the crazy thing about that is and this is when you start people get upset right the new generation feels like i feel like a lot of
Starting point is 01:37:09 times things should be given right now maternity leave is totally different right you have a baby absolutely you deserve maternity leave some fathers out there paternity leave so now when somebody says hey you know i'm gonna take a couple of months off to see if i'm gonna retire or not if you take that time if you leave me while I'm working, I got to find a replacement. I'm not going to find a replacement for a week or a month till you figure out what you want to do. I'm going to find a replacement to replace you. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah. Do you? I think he was honest about it, you know, because somebody could have said, do what you got to do and then they get replaced anyway. But I also feel like you never know what could happen. He could have got somebody else, and then she could have been ready to come back, and he could have felt like, man, she was better. You never know what could happen.
Starting point is 01:37:53 So it is still up in the air to me, but I do think that's an honest thing to say to somebody because, yes, you do still need to have a DJ on the road with you. Yeah, of course, man. When you tell them that, that's when they have to make a decision. Do I really want this? You know what I'm saying? That decision has to be made at one point in your career.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Because if you don't love whatever you do, you're going to get tested. You're going to go through certain levels. And you're going to be like, man, do I really love this? Because I can't take it no more. But I know for women in particular, it's different when you have a kid and you have that connection and they're really young.
Starting point is 01:38:22 And then you leave and you miss your baby so much. But then she miss work a lot too. So it's a harder balance I feel like when it's women. Yeah, definitely. I mean she had the time with the baby now. Like it wasn't like I was going to ask you one time the conversation was versus. Yeah. Would you do versus? Would you be willing to
Starting point is 01:38:41 do a versus? I did one with Tory Lanes. I blew his socks off. That was an early That was an early versus. We was the first ones that started versus and I told Swiss that. Swiss owe me a check.
Starting point is 01:38:52 I swear I hit him. I told him, yo, you gotta give me a check. And he did. He sent it to my lawyer. Wow, he really sent you a check. Yeah, he sent me paperwork. You know,
Starting point is 01:38:59 because the first time they were just beat battling. Right, I remember. You know what I'm saying? I called Swiss and I called Timberland up. I'm like, yo yo i need you to judge this joint we bought me and me and tory lanes because he had the quarantine radio but instead of me just going on your quarantine radio and doing that let's just do it a versus he was like oh nah you don't got me like yo bro
Starting point is 01:39:20 you gotta stop playing with me man your catalog ain't even you know what I'm saying so we did it we was talking back and forth I remember then I had Timbaland and Swiss Beats on the thing and everybody was judging it and after that
Starting point is 01:39:33 they just took it and just like you know took it to the next level but as far as me it's whoever I know one time Jim it was supposed to be you and Jim
Starting point is 01:39:40 which I think would be great because y'all had problems before y'all squashed it I think that would be a good one yeah I think because you and Jim you and Jim got records I think would be great because y'all had problems before y'all squashed it. I think that would be a good one. Yeah. I think because you and Jim got records. Nah, Jim, if you're watching this, don't do it. I think that y'all both talked
Starting point is 01:39:53 ish, so I think it would be really, really entertaining, really, really good. Nah, I don't think. You don't think so? Nah. Why not? Jim got records? Let's just say ballin' and poppin' head to head. Where you gonna go next? Jim got Baby Girl. Jim got Summer in Miami. Jim got all the Dipset records.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Jim got records. All right. Jim got records. Jim got a Dipset. But yeah, but honestly, though, I think, you know, when it comes to verses, you can just go 20 for 20
Starting point is 01:40:22 with anybody just because it doesn't matter what else you got. You know, that's like how Drake could go against Jay-Z, even though Jay-Z got a longer catalog. It's the top 20 records. Yeah, it's what you choose and what you put against whatever record. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:40:34 All right, we got more with French Montana. When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with French Montana. I want to ask you this. You think that people have a certain expectation of you?
Starting point is 01:40:53 Like they expect more of the party songs now? Well, you know, I became the first African-born artist to go diamond. And I became the first male artist from the Bronx, from the mecca of hip-hop, to go diamond and i became the first male artist from the bronx from the mecca of hip-hop to go diamond you know i'm saying and i got four albums three of them platinum so at the end of the day for me i accomplished everything i wanted to do and now it's time for me to make music for me and for and for my core audience the people that helped me get here the people that started listening to me when i made Shot Caller and New York Minute and the Mac and Cheese
Starting point is 01:41:27 mixtapes and this and that. So I felt like me and Harry Fraud, we never gave it a full push. We always just did a one-offs. We did the Shot Callers, we did I'm a Coke Boy, we did this, but we never did a full project. So I just wanted to get back full circle to the essence of
Starting point is 01:41:43 hip-hop and just like, you know what? That's what I want to make. I want to make a full rap album. So hip hop and just like you know what this is what I want to make I want to make a full rap album so it's something you just felt like this is what I want to do it don't matter I accomplished so many things and this is the music I feel like I want to do yeah definitely cause at the end of the day when you talk about rest in peace Fred the Godson
Starting point is 01:41:59 he said he's like when you talk about top 5 MC's the number one thing is going to be his bars. You know, going back to the essence, I'm here to make history and leave my mark. I did everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's artists that have been in the game three times the length that I've been in the game and still haven't won a diamond. Jay-Z haven't won a diamond.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Snoop haven't won a diamond. You know what I'm saying? But they have way more other things that's more than what I got. But as far as me leaving the legacy, I want to get back to this now. You feel like uh because you name all your accolades some of your accolades and I think people forget about a lot of the stuff that you do do you feel like they don't respect French as a rapper or as a lyricist because of some of the other things because of the relationship with the Kardashian and Trina and some of the other ones you snagged down. It's more about French's personal life
Starting point is 01:42:47 and less about the lyrics. I feel like it's the same thing with Drake. Drake can rap better than other artists, you know what I'm saying? But they don't want to give it to him because he's still smelling his flowers.
Starting point is 01:42:57 You know what I'm saying? That's a nicer way to say it, right? Yeah, you still smell your flowers. People ain't going to put the light on you while you're still smelling your flowers. I think with Drake,'s different, though. Yeah. And I think with Drake is, because Drake is busy.
Starting point is 01:43:08 He puts together songs. He's lyrically, he will body a lot of, most rappers out there. Yeah. But I think what gives Drake the little asterisk is when he went back in that beef and it was like, oh, Drake don't write his own rhymes. Yeah. That gave him a little asterisk, and he never discussed it. He never spoke about it. He never came out and was like, nah, that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:43:24 And I think that gave him the asterisk. But if that asterisk wasn't there for hip-hop, he's by far one of the best ever. But after this album, we're going to get back to that topic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, after this album, we're going to get back to that topic. I just think, you know, and that's the lane I'm going down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:42 Because that's, bro, like I came from the, like if Chicago Bulls in like 96, Michael Jones playing, that's where I was at in the Bronx. That's the mecca of hip hop, like big pun down the street. You know, the K-Rez one down here, like, you know, everybody was right there.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Fat Joe. Yeah, Fat Joe. Everybody, Slick, The Ruler, everybody. So to make it out of there, the time that I was there, was Mission Impossible. And we had to battle, like literally. You would take five bands.
Starting point is 01:44:14 You would take your re-up money, 15 grand. You would go here, you would go here. Go to every project to battle. So I come from hip-hop, rap. I had to rap to get on. All my music is rap, you know what I'm saying, when I got on. But I had to try to accomplish. You can't accomplish too much with just too much rap like you see jay-z which had them my bars down what was that line that he's at i had to dim my bars down in the
Starting point is 01:44:34 money camera yeah yeah so that's the same thing jay-z switches the whole style up when he got to the back then came back to the rap what about? So now you've been doing your acting thing. And so is that something that you feel like you want to pursue? Like, I want to be in some more feature films. What's next with that? My documentary is coming out this year. It's about the whole story with me coming from Africa
Starting point is 01:44:57 and starting to rap and being immigrated here and my pops leaving and my mother getting her welfare and Max B and chinks dying and me having to get through all that you know i showed it to jay-z i showed um to drake so me and drake is executive producing it together and it's it's gonna be real dope as far as in film and in theaters this year i feel like you don't tell those stories about yourself that often
Starting point is 01:45:21 either what made you decide now was the time to do it because people just know the music and people never really got a chance to see how hard it was to make it you know because we make it look easy every day so people be like okay cool he's just rapping he he getting lucky with every all right he lucky again he lucky again what's the artist career span you think usually honestly three to, three to five. Three to five. If they're lucky. Yeah, but now like a microwave error. Now it could be a couple months. It could be a year.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So for somebody that lasts 15 years, you got to give them the blueprint. That's how you do it. Now I saw you also referenced your baby mama tripping in the song. How is co-parenting going for you? Is it getting better? No, no, it's better.
Starting point is 01:46:05 It's better, definitely. It's better. You know, they're always going for you? Is it getting better? No, no, it's better. It's better, definitely. It's better. You know, they're always going to want some money, but it's better, man. Yeah, shout out to her. She's doing a great job. We never been in the media
Starting point is 01:46:12 and I respect everything she do for my son. Well, French's album is out today. What joint you want to play off the album right now? Montega.
Starting point is 01:46:20 You can play the one with me, Jada, Kiss Benny, The Butcher. Okay. And I got to thank French. Every time, you know, first of all, French has never changed his number from I don't even know how long. French's number is still the same since he was in the Bronx, I swear.
Starting point is 01:46:31 And anytime I ever call him, no matter what it is, he never says no. Never. First, I was doing my car show and French had a Bugatti. And I was like, you know, now Bugatti is about a $1.5, $2 million car. So if you call and you ask somebody for a Bugatti, nine times out of ten, they're going to be like, ah, well, speak to my people. French didn't say that at all. He was like, yo, just put it on the trailer and bring it. And it was not a problem.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Then I'm in Africa, ye. And the DJ before me, so I was supposed to play the hip hop set. And the DJ before me played the hip hop set. And we're in Africa, so it's like vibes. And I'm supposed to play the hip hop set. So I was like, I got to think of something to do to outdo the kid that played the hip hop set and we're in Africa. So it's like vibes and I'm supposed to play the hip hop. So I was like, I got to think of something to do to outdo the kid that played the hip hop set.
Starting point is 01:47:09 So I called French and I'm like, yo, French, when I perform, true story. I said, yo, when I perform,
Starting point is 01:47:14 I'm gonna have the camera on the FaceTime and I'm gonna call my, my, my people from New York and bring New York to Africa. And French was one of the ones that picked up. It was French, Fat Joe, Busta Rhymes, Jim Jones and Fabulous. Y'all all picked up from me. So I was all just, you know, always up. It was French, Fat Joe, Busta Rhymes, Jim Jones, and Fabulous.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Y'all all picked up for me, so I was always appreciative of you. Always, yeah, definitely, bro. Always, man. That's dope. Is it weird for you being in the club now that you don't drink? No, I got used to it.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Because at first, it's like, what am I doing? Because French was the party animal. His whole intention when you're in the club with him is to get you drunk. I remember one night we were in Vegas. It was my birthday. It was me, you, and Kevin Hart. I don't even know how I walked back to my room.
Starting point is 01:47:52 He just kept going. And then he had me performing with him. It was the weirdest thing. You were performing? I was performing with French on stage. Oh, my God. Kevin was there. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Is there footage of this? I hope not. Probably. I hope not. Goodness gracious. Probably. But of this? I hope not. Probably. I hope not. Goodness gracious. Probably. But back to what you saying. You know, people don't go to your funeral for what you did for yourself. They always
Starting point is 01:48:11 go to your funeral for what you did for them. And I live by that coast. So I be trying to, whenever my people is or whatever it is, somebody I can help, I always do that. You know what I'm saying? So when you had me from Africa, it was like five in the morning. Five in the morning, yeah. He was like, no problem. I was like, Henry, where you at? He was like, Africa.
Starting point is 01:48:26 I was like, oh, no. He said, you good? You all right? Need some? I said, yeah, I'm all right. I'm good. I'm not tired of nowhere. I just need you to FaceTime me.
Starting point is 01:48:33 I just need to FaceTime me. I'm in about 30 minutes. I need some props here. All right, well, there you have it. French Montana. Montega. I was out today. Montega.
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Starting point is 01:49:09 We got some special guests joining us today from the Black Promoters Collective. We have Troy Brown, Shelby Joyner, Gary Guidry, and Janice. Janice. Janice. Janice. Janice. Janice Cotton. It's a common name.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Welcome, everybody. All right. Welcome, welcome, welcome. How are y'all? All right, all right. I see you guys talking to Mike, too, when you talk. I know we got a lot of, yeah. Tell us what the BPC, the Black Promoters Collective, is, first of all.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Well, it's the Black Promoters Collective. It's a group of the top independent promoters that come together. We came together over COVID, the break. It allowed us some time to slow down and just think about where we were and we saw a lot of things culturally in the country a lot of division and a lot of just violence in the streets and it just sparked that emotion in us to say you know we've always talked about coming together and doing something great for this culture and so it gave us the time to slow down and just think about it and actually start to get the movement going.
Starting point is 01:50:08 And so we all came together and turned it into a real business. And now we're out here doing some of the biggest concerts in the country. It's been just an amazing experience. How did you guys get together? I know it happened during the pandemic. Did you guys previously know each other or did y'all respect each other? Because I know y'all all in the same business. How did y'all get together on the phone and said, this is what we want to do?
Starting point is 01:50:25 We originally started a company. It was called Promoters of Record. And it was four of us. It was Rick Johnson from Chicago, Suleiman Maoussi from Detroit, myself, and Bill Ingram from Philly. And we started to have a partnership. And we started the girls escape. That's when they first came back. We did a huge two shows in Detroit,
Starting point is 01:50:49 and once we did those two shows, they kind of promised us the tour at the time. Well, unfortunately, it didn't happen, and they wound up going to one of the big box companies, which was AG Live, after we kind of branded them. We just didn't have the infrastructure at the time or the capital to make the move so we told ourselves that'll never happen again so how could we empower ourselves
Starting point is 01:51:10 as an organization so we met gary gidry um he was doing millennial tour a lot of big tours out there so he had that infrastructure that touring infrastructure And a lot of our other partners was already popping in their markets. So we was like, listen, let's just all come together and just form Voltron, right? And we started having calls. At first, it started with like maybe 50 people, 60 people, and we dwindled it down to about six people or six companies, and that's who we are today.
Starting point is 01:51:43 So y'all coming together to like compete with the live nations and the AEGs of the world? Bingo. Okay. I think the notion there, Charlemagne, is that much like you're seeing, it's interesting that we say the post-George Floyd era, right? Because it did take that for a lot of things to transpire across the board.
Starting point is 01:52:01 You look at what's happening with a lot of black companies, you know, media entertainment, IP, you look at companies like group black, you look at the black effect. We're doing that same thing in the live touring entertainment IP space. It's literally that same thing. As a matter of fact, we're having discussions with some of those entities with how, how we as people of color and black entities can now Voltron and really ultimately control our IP create our IP control our IP and what we're saying is buy back the block well I was gonna ask you know with you guys doing these concerts and do you guys have a lot of difficulty with these concert venues in these halls? The fact that you are black, where they make you jump through hoops and do other things that maybe these other brands or these other box companies, like you said, don't have to do. Well, definitely that that has been the, you know, the upstream swim that we've been our whole careers, you know, really the spark for this is about the culture. You know, so many of our artists, their brands, how they're communicated to the community is controlled.
Starting point is 01:53:11 That narrative is controlled by people who don't look like us. It's controlled by people in cubicles and part of these big box agencies that tell the story of our culture. And so we're in the streets. We're in the coffee shops and the barbershops and beauty shops. We're just being in the community promoting. So we understand how to connect the Mary J. Blige back to the beauty shop, how to make sure that that that the message or the brand that she wants to communicate is definitely communicated on the streets. So that's that's really what this about is it's about it's about the culture it's about changing the narrative of who we are what
Starting point is 01:53:52 we look like because we're not just you know what we see in the streets on these killings and just the negativity that normally comes with businesses being black you know that we don't do good business are you guys doing the m J. Blige Good Morning Gorgeous Tour? We are. Okay, so I want you to walk me through that process and how you acquired that. So I think it's a couple of things, and that's a great question, Angie. So I think we have to finish answering your question first on how we got there, right? Because it's demonstrated in the work that we did with the first two major tours envy
Starting point is 01:54:26 right so when you look at pole star now and you see the success of the night tour top 10 tour right you see success of the culture tour new edition jodeci charlie wilson another top 10 tour well for the first half of that was all y''s all yeah yeah so we didn't know world when you look at Polestar and you look at the top ten tours for the first half of the year those are the only two black tours that's the black promoters collective so when you say how are you guys getting treated yes treated one way prior to treating another way after now let me pivot to your question that now allows us to romanticize and package our business to now go to the queen of our culture that we all grew up with as hip-hop kids, right? And say, okay, Mary.
Starting point is 01:55:17 Proof of concept. It worked. Here's the case studies, right? We love you. We know who you are. We know what you mean to us. You're now coming off the Super Bowl Billboard Icon Award. Right. You know, let's partner. And here's what we can do. Here's what we do.
Starting point is 01:55:32 To Gary's point, not only from what you know, from a business perspective, from below the line level, but in above the line level. Look, we're we're credible on in the streets and in the boardrooms. And I think that affords us a different narrative than the big box companies that you guys talked about, right? We can do it in both arenas, which it allows us to maneuver in ways that the other folks can't. I can see her and her team being excited also to be able to do that. Absolutely. And we're buying millions of dollars worth of media guys, and we're doing it all internally, right? So we're doing the digital, the social, the mobile, the radio,
Starting point is 01:56:12 the street teams, the grassroots. That's all us. So we're ultimately, in effect, an agency unto ourselves. So to Gary's point, now we can go have big brand conversations and partnerships, and we're doing social partnerships as well. You know, you saw during the Culture Tour, a new edition was going into the boys clubs giving bikes back right to the kids you saw presentations to foundations across all these cities that were happening on on the tours you saw maxwell talking about really black culture things in ways that he was not prior to this tour that's it that's how we're partnering
Starting point is 01:56:46 with our people with our talent in ways that they the other big boxes aren't necessarily doing why because we come from the places that they come from and we're looking at life through the same lenses that they are i love it man the unity and group operation is a must like this is it's honestly the only way to move if you're black now. You got to move as a collective. That's it. Yeah. Cooperative economics.
Starting point is 01:57:08 That's right. This business is about scalability. People want to know how big, far, and wide that you can take their brand. And being a small operation, it's only going to go so far because culture is culture. That's fine. But if you're a global brand you want to partner with people that can take you globally that just makes sense that's just business that's not even black or green that's just business you can secure
Starting point is 01:57:35 endorsements and all of that yeah yeah all of that and this whole thing is going full circle because my first show that i ever did I was right next to this man right here and Kevin Hunter. My first concert at the Paradise Theater. Paradise Theater, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my first concert, right? I had to really convince some people to make it happen.
Starting point is 01:57:54 It was at a small budget if you ask me. Who was the artist? I'm trying to think. It was a comedy show. It was called Who's the Next Biggest Comedian or something like that. We came up with it and we were supposed to do it with Donnell Jones.
Starting point is 01:58:09 He didn't show up, and we wound up getting Life Journey. And we did 1,700 people, I will never forget, in a 3,700-seat venue. And it was crazy. I wound up owning that same venue a couple years later. And that was the start of our career. Wow. Well, congratulations and good luck. Definitely Definitely if you're out there pick up your tickets to go see Mary J Blige, the Good Morning Gorgeous tour.
Starting point is 01:58:32 And Troy, I know you from Boston so you having a party for the Warriors tonight after they beat y'all in game 6? Don't let him talk to you like that. Don't let him talk to you like that. Did he say something? It's the Black Ramones Collective, thank you for joining us. It's the Black Promoters Collective. Thank you for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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