The Breakfast Club - No Ceilings with Glasses Malone: Conversations About Ice Cube's Journey
Episode Date: October 20, 2024Glasses Malone alongside Rose Gold Pete, Norme Steele and special guest Quiz discuss Ice Cube's evolution as an artist, the impact of drugs on the Black community, the significance of monetary success..., the changing landscape of hip hop, and the importance of songwriting in achieving commercial success and much more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.  Rate, subscribe, comment and share. Follow NC on IG @GlassesLoc @Peter_Bas_Boss @Steele562 @QuizIsDopeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,
but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
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The crack of the bat and another one gone.
The tip of the cap, there's another one gone.
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Watch up,
and welcome back to another episode of no ceilings podcast with your host
nah fuck that with your low glasses malone
now what no what happened is quiz had put out an album
so it's like this the homie, you feel me?
Like we get 30,000, 40,000 downloads a week or whatever it is.
Quizz put out an album.
That makes sense, right?
To make sure that we do a podcast with Quizz.
Without a doubt.
Makes sense to me.
Right?
And then Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, the live lunch hour was the help digital soapbox.
What are you squinting at, bro?
I'm looking at something. I'm trying
to see something right there.
That's a lot of squinting for a computer screen
that's two feet in front of your face.
Did you know we could do this in 4K if we wanted to?
No, I didn't know. That's tight, though.
I'm going to see. I'm going to try to put it
up on there.
I don't know. Peter's thing might start.
The higher the K,
the older I look. So let's keep
it one K.
So it's just
mandatory you bring queers on the pod.
That just makes sense.
You use your platforms to help your people.
You don't really do that
for your people still, but
this is how poor people use it. What do you mean? I do do that for your people still but this is how poor people use
what do you mean I do that for my people
all the time I always
mention people and
only if their last name is still
still on everything
how this nigga still get over here
poor ass nigga need to help yourself
pull yourself up by your bootstrap
no man I got so much
man you know what? I'm going to
tell y'all something, man. The older you get, the more
you realize, man, that men get treated
like the worst shit in the world, dog.
If you ain't got...
If you don't have nothing going on, dog,
as a man,
if you don't have no motherfucking monetary
value, dog, you ain't shit.
Hey, Stee, I've been knowing you since
for a long time. You've been saying that since you was like 35, bro. It's the truth, dog. you ain't shit. Hey, I've been knowing you since for a long time. You've been saying that since you was like
35, bro. It is. It's the
truth, dog. It's the truth.
If you don't have no money, dog,
you're not worth a grain of salt.
I agree. Do you want to be
loved, broke?
Man, I think you're supposed to be loved
unconditionally, bro. Why do you think that?
Because I just think so, bro.
I love people unconditionally.
If you was broke, would you love yourself still?
Hold up. That's a lie. No, you don't.
I do love people unconditionally.
No, you don't. Yes, I do.
I love my kids unconditionally. No, you don't.
How you figure that?
How you figure that? I love people unconditionally.
If your old lady wasn't giving you no vagina, you wouldn't love her.
Yes, I would.
Oh, you wouldn't?
That's not the thing. wasn't giving you no vagina, you wouldn't love her. Yes, I would. Oh, you wouldn't? I'm going to tell you, G.
That's not the thing.
After 30 years of marriage, nobody want that no more.
That's like a thing.
Remember in Married With Children,
Al Bundy used to complain about having sex with the wife?
Sex with the wife.
You know what, man? I don't think people complain about that.
I just think that people, man, have this.
I think everybody is trying to use each other.
Everybody just want to use somebody, dog.
Everybody getting used.
I mean, look.
Yeah.
I saw the video with the little white man you saw yesterday.
And he was talking about how people want this.
That was me.
No, no, not you.
He definitely wasn't players.
Hold on one second.
Hold on one second.
He's not players, you, not you. He definitely wasn't players. He's not players.
You, bro.
He was complaining that he felt useless at a time and women could make you feel useless.
And it's like still just be mad because his old lady expect him to do the same thing he's been doing these for 30 years.
What he signed up to do.
Yeah.
Like his job description.
I told still this and he got to this argument with me. I say,
bro, you marry a woman when
you decide you want to take care of that woman forever.
If that ain't your reason
for getting married, if you marry somebody
because you want them to take care of you,
you got married for the wrong reason. That's why
the women celebrate at the wedding
and not the men. Exactly. See, the thing
is, a woman, dog, you can't
expect a woman to take care of you like a man should never expect a woman to take care of him, though.
That's just not.
I would hardly expect a woman to come back home from the grocery store.
It's not manly, bro, to expect a woman to take care of you.
You feel what I'm saying?
But I think men have been getting the short end of the stick, man, for the last 100, 200 years, ever since they invented the job.
No, ever since they started, they just
came on the planet. If the man got to go hunting,
he might not come home.
They invented the job 200 years ago.
50 years.
Ever since the job got invented, dog,
the man been getting the shorty end of the fucking stick.
I mean, but like, what about
you gave a woman a job before
you knew what the requirements were
you know what that might be true though
you know what I think man
hold up still listen I'll be honest I won't even joke
look in a perfect world
women will just love you
no matter what you got
but Diddy's in jail
for racketeering
there's a lot of shit
that starts with in a perfect world
but yeah Diddy's in jail
for racketeering by himself
obviously he's his own organization
I even got my dad to laugh
at that
can you just picture this man's
plight right now though dog
just a couple months ago he was on a fucking boat
like on a big ass yacht dog just doing his couple months ago, he was on a fucking boat. Like, on a big-ass yacht, dog.
Just doing his thing.
Just eating whatever he wanted to do, dog.
Now he's in the cell.
This is what happens.
If you have enough money to be on a boat,
stay
on the fucking boat.
Then he should have ran, dog.
And I'm pretty sure he heard rumors
of this coming down the pipe. I don't know why
he didn't bone the boat. It was him who had to bone the fuck out.
What the fuck would you get off a boat?
That's what I'm saying. I would have took that boat
straight to Brazil, some fucking
where, and it never got off.
And had somebody wire me. He's making
all that money. Wire me $100 million
and I'm not coming back for 10 to 15 years.
Just have international waters.
Just send people out on
the tenders to go get
supplies and come back. You can even bring
bitches back out of the boat.
Who cares? It's a boat.
Oh, man.
Peter, you over there drinking? What you drinking, man?
Oh, this is the
Martinez.
I invented it. What is the Martinez? The vodka mart this is the Martinez. I invented it.
What is the Martinez?
The vodka martini is the en vogue, you know, drink du jour in a lot of circles these days.
I'm in Miami.
I know vodka martinis.
I do Cuban cafe coladas con dark rum.
Shaken and poured.
It's the Martinez. It's the martini on espanol
delicious delicious you never had in your life i've never had somebody complain about the martinez
no you you you in miami talking about chicks in long beach you tripping
oh they got them down here too oh i know that's my point yeah yeah they got they got them down here, too. Oh, I know. That's my point. Yeah, they got more of them down here.
Long Beach ain't got nothing on Miami.
No, but I'm just saying
in the scope of L.A.
of L.A. County, you hated Miami
when you were here. Still, what are you talking about?
Because it's expensive as hell, dog. They put a service charge
on every damn thing.
I went to a donut shop, bro.
I bought $10 worth of donuts, y'all.
In fact, I charged $20.
A $10 service charge for some donuts.
What donut shop were you at?
Why are you getting donuts in Miami, bro?
Why are you getting donuts there?
Because they was good.
They had donuts with, like, the whipped cream on them and the jellies.
Oh, you went to...
See, if you go to Miami Beach, that's where the out-of-counters go when they're tricking money off on out-of-town girls
and they go and they gouge you with the with the autograph for anything i went to um what's the
little homie named down there the little rat looking dude what's the little rapper named
kodak black yeah i went to his shop dog it was actually pretty funny oh the um the clothing
store yeah i asked the dude that was working there. I said, does he
ever come in here? He said, yeah, he comes in.
I go to the strip club on the other side of the
wall.
You know what's funny about his store, though, bro?
His store smells like weed.
I'm sure it does.
That is not surprising to me.
I'd imagine.
Kodak Black said he's sober
now, though, bro. That's good for him.
But he don't work there.
Huh?
He doesn't work there.
He might be.
He might be, dog.
I hope he heals, dog.
I really hope.
Because he's at sobriety, dog.
Because I think.
Zero chance.
I think drugs are ruining our community right now, dog.
Not being facetious either.
Drugs are ruining the black community, dog.
Have been ruining the black community though have been ruining the black community alcohol 72 alcohol we is seriously though you were about right i'm not saying that as a joke
i'm saying like to me rhetorically speaking there's always this talk about like the 1980s
and crack and shit like that. There was an enormous
number of vets that came back from
Vietnam, and outside
of L.A., the community got
ravaged by heroin for
decades before crack even showed up.
No one talks about it.
When I lived in Cleveland, I remember
we stayed in this apartment building, and in the back
you would see needles all on the ground. Heroin was
so big in Cleveland, though.
Just needles everywhere, dude.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions.
But you just don't know what is going to come for you.
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I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Like grace.
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Hey, y'all. Nimany here.
I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families
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The tip of the cap, there's another one gone.
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Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba.
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the house. I got my big brother still, and I got my little brother Quiz, man. Quiz, what's happening?
Y'all clap for
quiz man act like y'all got some class man it's good i'll be clapping quiz got a new project out
what's the name of the quiz project is called grateful grateful yeah i remember that i'm on
the project so y'all check that out on spotify we was having the dope rap conversation i'm like hold
that for the pie you don't got to be like, you know, you don't gotta be,
we could talk about it with it being,
with it having taste.
Yeah, yeah.
I was wondering what Steel started playing music for.
You got long to find that, huh?
Did y'all hear that?
Yeah.
Y'all heard it?
Yeah.
Of course we heard it.
I'm trying to do this, I'm applause thing.
I was trying to see if we could have an opinion.
Let me see.
I want to get an applause.
Let me see.
We need a professional soundboard.
Did y'all hear that right there?
No.
Hey, Steel, you sound like a toddler with a new toy.
Did y'all hear this right here?
This what?
No, we didn't hear it.
I heard that.
Yes.
Someone's cursing?
Please stop doing that.
It's an audio.
Okay.
Stop it.
Yes, we heard it.
That's what I'm saying.
We're in the house.
You hear that?
Yes, you're making it distort.
I wish I wanted to do the little horns. You heard that too.
We got it. We got it.
We got all of it.
Hey, no sentence was better when you own it.
This version of you is so much better
than the version that's on Gangster Chronicles.
Well, I've been letting my
personality bleed over a little bit. You know,
A, they ain't been on the show, dog. I've been over there a while.
Yeah, because you get on Gangster Chronicles
and turn into a professional host like
you're not Barbara Walters, bro. Chill.
Let me do it one more time for the homie.
Y'all hear that? Yes, we heard it.
So y'all hear the applause? Yes, please stop.
That's for you, Chris.
Please stop.
Just hold on.
Can we just
mute him out, please?
I'm going to have to put that right here right by me, dog, and just hit the button. Just mute him out, please. We can move on.
I'm going to have to put that right here right by me, dog.
Just hit the button.
Randomly.
What was it? Did you say something funny?
Hit the left.
Oh, shit.
Does Steel have moderator privileges where he can't be muted?
You don't have to make it yourself after.
I'm going to move my actual thing up here on the thing.
So when I hit it, y'all can't tell
I just go
okay
he was having a really dope conversation
and I said hold it for the pod
and we're talking
about Ice Cube and it's funny because me
and Steel have had this conversation off air
and
he was talking about Cube's
kind of what almost looks like three separate careers right and he was talking about his third part and he was talking about Cube's kind of what almost looks like three separate careers.
Okay.
Right?
And he was talking about his third part, and he was saying he kind of started to get questionable in his eyes
when obviously he got to the third period, right, which was We Be Clubbing, the Yeah Yeah.
Put Your Back Into It.
Those versions.
Yeah.
And I get it because Stretch said the same thing to me
but what i've learned being in the music business and you know i don't want to come across all music
businessy but what i really realized bro was what's dope for him is right you start off as nwa as his
writer like everything is the lines you write yeah yeah right then obviously that's that first
era where the chuck d era and
he came in and he was writing and saying the hardest stuff but the reason i think that's more
a testament to how great of an mc is and a hip-hop legend and just a fantastic artist his song writing
got crazy like think about it right like initially you said he was like jay-z before that jay-z never evolved
into forgive me ho because i know you listen to the podcast but he never turned into the same
songwriter ice cube turned into remember so ice cube started as an mc that needed other people
to do hooks on hit records to where he got so controlled with his songwriting, his record writing
ability. Those songs are
top 20 songs and he's on the course.
Yeah.
Nobody wanted to hear Q doing that though, dog.
I actually love it.
He was just a fake Tupac with the
yeah, yeah, yeah and all that stuff.
No, but that's not...
I got the bug, just like them frogs.
That was corny, dog.
I know the sound was like them frogs. That was corny, dog. I mean, I know
the sound was changing.
Things were shifting and he found his way to
implement himself. I think great songwriting
can be a bit corny.
If you really think about it
still, think about some of the greatest records
wrote. But I'm a fan of MC's
so that's why I like...
You're gonna
critique like Snoop Dogg for doing... fan of MC's, so that's why I like... We got the bug. It's like those frogs. You're going to critique
Snoop Dogg for doing...
Yeah.
That was hard, though, dog. That was hard.
It was a deviation from his
typical sound.
But Snoop was never
a prolific writer like
Ice Cube was.
Snoop is the greatest of all time.
They do something different.
See, and I think when we hear rapper, we think writer.
That's something I trip off of.
That's not really what a rapper means.
It's the connotation, but it's not.
Like, I think we fancy Cube and certain people as writers versus Snoop, who is actually just a superb rapper.
I think we separate the terms writer and composer
because rappers gonna write their lyrics but you compose the piece or something like something
kind of that's a little deeper that's a little deeper but let's back up before we go from there
q snoop has always been an incredible rapper now if you question how great he writes or the things
he's writing that's a different conversation
Because that's where to me the Jay-Z's
The Nas and different people
Stand out as writers
When you hear the things they're writing
You like oh these dudes
And to me not everybody has that talent
So when Q moved away
When Q moved away
From displaying his talent in that way
That's where like It gets a little tricky for in that way, that's where like,
it gets a little tricky for me.
Well,
I think that's the genius of it,
right?
Cause if you really think about it from 1988,
well,
boys and little came out in 87 to be able to carry a career for 11 years on
your own pen.
And then you're writing your hit records at the end of that 11,
12 year run.
Like what's crazy is my favorite
cube album is uh the war album it's not necessarily america death certificate lethal predator i feel
like as a songwriter and as an mc he was at his his apex his greatest by the time he became a much
better songwriter to go with the mc now i agree with you i think as you
become because i go through this now as i become a much better record writer you kind of leave
mc'ing mc'ing i don't want to say leave it that's not the right word it's not as imperative because
it's more about the composition of the whole record i hear you versus where if you jay you
really don't get me wrong because i do think Jay writes some of the singing parts
for some people, but for the most part, he's taken
like he didn't write Empire State of Mind.
He just had to emcee the verses.
Jay bit a lot of stuff too.
There's certainly...
I don't like
when the emcee starts leaving the emceeing
part.
I personally don't like when the emcee starts leaving the MCing part. I personally don't like when the MC
starts leaving the MC part.
I personally don't like that.
No, no, I get it.
There's a point of
diminishing returns where
stuff becomes too lyric-centric
to get
mass audience
resonance.
You know who that is? That's Bob Dylan. to get mass like audience you know i just understand resonance you know what i'm saying
you know who that is that's bob dylan like bob dylan is regarded as one of the greatest writers
but he don't got the best records no everybody else who does his songs and after him
oh you know what that's the greatest writer of all time, though.
And I think that's where, as when we talk,
so that's what I'm saying with Q.
So I get it.
I get it from an MC, because you are like a paramount MC.
Like, you are, that is your shit you lead with MCing.
But because of our business,
our job is still to make records that the world enjoys.
Yeah, yeah, the world can mess with.
And I think Q Q who started his career
very much like a top
tier MC without a ton of...
You know, he ain't like us. We have the
benefit of Ice Cube, Jay-Z, Tupac,
Scarf, and we got
hundreds of rappers. By the time me and you
start rapping, there's hundreds of guys
we could take from. If you
in 87, shit,
it's Melly Mell.
LA has about 10 people.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
how do you form a style?
Like,
still in them era,
how do you form a style?
But you was listening to The Bloat,
what was his name?
You know what made me think of him?
Yeah.
Homeboy from like,
from Compton,
with Paramount.
And the girl you was dating
at the time,
she was like,
he sounded like a paw paw
Oh yeah
What's his name? I forgot
He was cool though
Yeah he was cool
But think about it if you came in cute
Like Snoop
All them dudes born between
68 and 73
They didn't have no rappers to really look up to
I hear you
They might have had seven guys.
They probably heard Melly Mel and was
blown away. Like, listen to this Melly Mel.
That Melly Mel guy is incredible.
He was in front of Scarface.
Before Scarface.
Melly Mel is 1979.
No, I'm saying Cube was before Scarface.
Yeah, they about the same.
They about the same, bro.
I'd be willing to bet.
I bet Scarface heard
Q before Q heard Scarface.
Later at the same time.
Yeah?
Like, that's the crazy
part still. Like, when you was 15
and 85,
who did you look up to?
Who was
the dopest?
Kane wasn't out in 85.
You're a damn lie.
Kane was out in 85.
See, I'm going to tell you right now, Wayne was out in 85.
He wasn't out in 85.
I mean,
Steel was 15 right around Lionel Richie's
first album, right?
Hell no.
That's probably about close to the same thing.
The Commodores is in the 70s. Lionel Richie
ain't in the 80s. Steel in the 70s? 60s, baby? No, no can't think that damn old. That's probably about close to the same thing. The Commodores is in the 70s. Lionel Richie ain't in the 80s.
Still in the 70s.
This is 70s, 60s, baby.
60s, baby.
No, no, still.
Okay.
Big Daddy Kane began his career in 1986.
So I was 16.
So I said, who did you look up to?
That's why I specifically named the year because I know when Kane,
I know when Rob came out.
When did LL Cool J break?
84.
And he, and they hated LL Cool J.
I for sure was looking up to LL Cool J break? 84. You know what? I for sure was looking up to LL
Cool J around that time.
LL was the hardest thing you heard in
1985. He was.
He was the hardest. He's only been out for one year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I like, but
LL had a little bit more twang to him
than Melly May. LL was like,
LL was the first one to start.
I didn't like White Lines and all that.
When was Slick Rick?
I don't understand that song.
Slick Rick was about 86, 87.
Yeah, they all about.
Run DMC.
83.
I didn't really start getting heroes and rap
dog till about the cold chilling era
to like cool G rap.
Yeah, that's your boy. That's Molly Moss.
So you leaned into Beastie Boys. I like Beastie Boys too. The, Coochie rapping. Yeah, that's your boy. That's Molly Moss. So you leaned into Beastie Boys.
They didn't have Beastie Boys.
I like Beastie Boys too. The Beastie Boys are.
So, no, but if you
think about it, that's my point. So, like, we had all
these MCs to kind of
really learn from
and coin. Yeah, it's like, dog, we
had little one-off people.
Like, it would be people like the Coochies
here. It was so new. You would hear like a random dude. It'd be hard, right? Like, we had a rapper in Cleveland people like it was still brand new like the kids here it was so new you
would hear like a random dude that'd be hard right like we had a rapper in cleveland named
coach sheaths he was around melly mail's time i think coach he's better than melly mail but he
just never went nowhere so again like if you think about it right uh the sugar hill song is at 79
when's third base that's 90s third base is 90s yeah that's like late 80s early 90s
maybe okay no because if you think of 85 right you only have lll's def jam's first shiny so that's
that came out in 84 radio comes out in 84 which is dope because he just dropped the album 40 years
later this year right and you had before that you had Melly Mel that's Grandmaster 5 and you know Grandmaster
Flash and the Fierce 5 Mel was like 83 so he was around Moe D was a part of the Treacherous 3 but
they wasn't really tripping off Moe they didn't really respect the fat boys the correct way to me
they just didn't they didn't look up to rappers how we did where we could hear and be like like
I could love a Scarface even before I wanted to be a rapper or a Cube or a Snoop
or Dre. We had a thousand
of them. They didn't have nobody but six
people. Well, I will say
this. The Fat Boys, dog, before
they started making the movies and stuff,
their album was banging in the hood,
dog, with Angel, without
the bell and all that.
But you didn't want to be the Fat Boys.
Man, who wanted to be you know
what but they was hard don't you know what i'm saying so that's the point i'm saying it's like
we so like when i back to the point when i look at somebody like q i look at that differently like
i get what you're saying because his style did change but i think it evolved into a better place
as a songwriter like he he evolved to last because yeah like when when Q
first came bro like hip-hop wasn't really topping the charts consistently yeah like you know Will
Smith and Jeff and Prince did well LL kind of did well sometimes it was a couple people Hammer did
well but hip-hop didn't have a mainstay on the chart. So if you was just a dope hip-hop act, the streets just had to like you
when it worked out.
You know what I mean?
Like, Moe D, I mean, excuse me, Kane or Rod,
them dudes didn't have no bunch of top 20, top 10 songs and none of that.
Them dudes, N.W.A., the same thing.
They didn't have no top 20, top 10 songs in the country.
Bro, I'm going to tell you this.
The Fat Boys, bro, were probably just –
not to just cut Fat Boys, bro, were probably just as important as Run DMC.
Yes.
As far as breaking hits on mainstream.
Them dudes had a gold album in 1984, dog.
At three gold albums.
Yeah, on an independent label, though, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
I keep telling y'all, y'all shame, y'all, y'all, how y'all.
What's funny is I looked up to the Fat Boys when I was a kid.
Young MC is what, early 90s?
Early 90s.
Yeah.
Tone Local is early 90s.
You know what, though?
I looked up to the Fat Boys.
I looked up to the Fat Boys until they started going commercial.
I don't like nobody that went to commercial, though.
As soon as they start doing the Taco Bell commercials and doing all this and that commercial, though. As soon as they start doing the Taco Bell commercials and doing
all this and that and doing them...
As soon as they start getting a check.
As soon as they start getting a check.
They were sellouts to me.
They were sellouts, man.
I understand it better now, but back then...
Now that you've got sponsorships on deck,
now you understand it. Now that you've got sponsorships on deck, now you understand it.
Now that you don't want to lose Coca-Cola and Budweiser,
now you understand it.
I was going to be out on the last pod on the stream.
This was 24 hours ago.
Now he's like, sell out.
Taco Bell, go make this orderly.
You was that nigga in college.
You went to the NFL and got some bread.
You suck now.
Man, just think about this, though, dog.
The Fat Boys was hard.
And I'm going to tell you,
what's the homie that got the song with cocaine
and all? That dude's still spitting.
Oh, Cool Rockski, yeah.
Cool Rockski is still hard, dog.
That song he got with cocaine is already on their
bus. Fat Boys was hard. I used to love
the Fat Boys, but I was a kid.
But again, I fucked with them when I was a kid. The better
marketable acts I noticed
y'all didn't like. And it's not
I don't think y'all thought they were talented. You felt
it was a gimmick. So I could see how
you looked at Disorderly
like I loved it. I'm seven.
The movie? Yeah. That movie was crazy.
That movie was crazy. But I would imagine
if you're the age. You know what?
Disorderly was like...
I think Disorderlies is what inspired the movie
Babs. Yeah.
Disorderlies is fire, bro.
Disorderlies is crazy. Yeah.
But it didn't hit them that it could be cool
until Housewives. Because I was watching that shit as a kid, too.
Me, too. It was like... Yeah, yeah. The Fat Boys was great.
That was it. But, okay, the point...
Let me get back to the point. So, again, like I'm so my point to say what's cubing them they didn't have no so he came in the
game competing with what was in the game at the time yeah right he came in it really wasn't much
there so he competed with that um but what happened was during his reign? Because it's fair to say Cube is the MVP of hip-hop in 1990 and 1991.
For sure.
But guess what happened in 1992?
Snoop Dogg happened.
And Snoop became this.
And I always say this.
I said on The Brevice Club,
now the conversation is spreading.
I see a lot of people saying this.
I was listening to Doggy Style in the gym today.
It's a top five hip-hop album.
Yeah, by far.
Top five.
It's better than The Chronic. Yeah, yeah, it's better top five hip-hop yeah by far you know it's incredible it's better than the chronic
yeah yeah it's not as rich it's just greater it's fun but okay so but dog happens right and mind you
dog writes the chronic too but dog happens right and then dog becomes this thing that really never
happens now never happened before is number two in the country. Yeah.
Like,
why is this song,
where these dudes is talking crazy,
the number two song out of all records?
Yeah.
And then,
Dre Day comes out.
This is a diss to EZ.
It's number four in the country.
And then,
Let Me Ride drops,
right?
Shout out to, to,
to Steel,
Steel Man.
Best song on the album.
So before. Best song on the album.
Yeah.
Little Ghetto Boys is top 40.
So you have one album that has four top 40 songs.
This ain't even his album.
He just wrote it.
And then guess what? He comes back with Doggy Stout.
It's four songs on there
that are top 40 songs.
They're top 10 songs.
Hip hop now is competing with the best.
It's competing with Michael Jackson.
Yeah, yeah.
They got the biggest songs.
And Cube is watching this happen.
He go from being this dope MC and writing these songs.
They don't have to be huge chart-topping smashes.
They just the culture.
And then he looking at Dog and him.
He like, what the
fuck is...
What is happening? And then
this happens and then they come
back. They got the...
Now Biggie is happening.
Now Biggie got top 10 songs.
The remix to One More Chance
and Big Papa and
all of this. So now there's a
hip-hop... There's a hip-hop that's Wu-Tang
where it's like, these are the biggest hip-hop
songs and urban songs.
Then you got hip-hop competing with
Michael Jackson, Commercial
Smashes, without selling out.
I'm going to tell you, it was
unapologetic gangster rap, dog.
And I think, because we didn't like to sell out.
So it was music that was so hard. They didn't sell out, though, dog. I hate to sell And I think, because we didn't like sell out. Without selling out, yeah. So it was music that was so hard.
They didn't sell out, though, dog.
I hate to sell out.
That's why I didn't like Hammer.
But Hammer didn't sell out.
That's just Hammer's entertainment.
But I get what you're saying.
But let me make my point.
So now you have hip hop like Cream.
You got Illmatic.
And these songs are doing well at the highest level of black music.
But now you got these other stuff that's competing with every song.
Mind you, Cube has already been in the game as a top MC for seven years.
He had already been in the game, right, for seven years as a top MC.
And then Pac's happening.
He's like, these guys are, I have where do i where do i land right gee you think
it's fair at that time there hadn't really been like the like the sound cycle over time hadn't
eclipsed 12 o'clock a second time yet to where there was like 2.0s you know what i mean like
to where you could say oh this this has a vibe that throws back to whatever it sounds like a everything was new over new so that's what you're kind of finding the evolutionary clock and and
then a few years after that because even at that point that was right after snoop's no limit sound
came out which was different than his previous sound yeah but that but that but let's back up before we get to 98 or you know i mean
or 97 let's just stay in that window of 92 december 92 the chronic to 96 this is what cube
so mind you cube in 92 he had already been the mvp for two years 90 and 91 he was a part of
what became at that time the the greatest group in hip-hop to some degree if you wouldn't say run dmc you say nwa for sure is the greatest west coast rap group right so you 87 you wrote a
big impactful cultural record boys in the hill for eazy-e that's an 87 and then 92 you are supreme
this is what the top looks like i got a side note real quick so you mentioned easy right but then
dog happens yeah that's the same thing happened to Ice-T. Ice-T told me
that he said, man, I hit the pinnacle. I was
selling the same records
LL was selling.
He said, so I started to make rock because
it felt like I hit the ceiling.
And guess who comes and lifts
the ceiling? Snoop lifts
the ceiling and the ceiling has been there
the whole time. You just touch it or you don't.
What was your side note, Chris? What was your side note, Chris? And the ceiling has been there the whole time. You just touch the door, you don't.
What was your side note, Chris?
Still.
Still might be biased.
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony.
Top five rap group.
Oh, for sure.
Especially their earlier works.
Because you got to remember, at that time,
they came with something that was so new, bro.
Still, how many groups are in your top five?
I say for sure top ten. I'm not sure about top five.
Listen, I don't know if they're
top five group of all time. I think they were
probably one of the more original groups, though, dog.
Whose sound came out first?
Like, did they come out before
that Chicago sound, or did they just get big before
the do or dies of the world?
To me, they were different from Chicago's. They had the melody in the dude.
It was like,
well, even though you're gone.
It wasn't the melody. The Midwest always had melody.
They had harmony.
They had harmony, though.
Top five. No, no, no.
Bone is top five. Dog pound, no.
Outkast. Yes.
Top five is probably going to be Wu-Tang.
The Lox. No. The Lox
isn't top five. No, no.
Lox ain't top five in New York.
For groups? Rap groups?
Not New York.
Bro, are you crazy? I'm not going
Lox over... Lox are one of my
favorite and they my era, but I'm not going
Lox over Run DMC. I'm not
going Lox over Wu-Tang. I'm not going
Lox over... I'm not going Lox over Fat Boys. I'm not going locks over Wu-Tang. I'm not going locks over Fat Boys.
I'm not going locks over Tribe.
You know what I mean?
And I'm not going locks.
What's that?
That's five right there?
So is Bone Thugs in there?
Yeah, in the top five all the time.
Yeah, Bone Thugs is the greatest group out of the Midwest.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
Outkast is the greatest group out of the South.
Bone is the greatest group out of the Midwest. NWA is the greatest group out of the Midwest. Hell yeah. Outkast is the greatest group out of the South. Bone is the greatest group out of the Midwest. NWA is the greatest group
out of the West. Wootang is the greatest
group out of the East. Ghetto Boys?
I'm going to go
Outkast over Ghetto Boys.
UGK?
Over UGK, too.
Outkast is dope.
Outkast belongs... I'm just saying, like...
Oh, wait. Hold on.
When I started looking at it, I didn't know if they was like top 5
I believe they were in the top 10
Hold on, Pimp C made it abundantly clear
In that interview
That Atlanta is in the eastern standard time
And that they're not the south
That is true, he did say that
You could have had that comment
Atlanta is not the south
No, so What y'all watching that's okay you could have that comment it's not the south no so
what's your watch what's your watch say when you said the time changed don't it
that was my man bro he's the first one to ever show me love so yeah so i look at cube right so
cube had been in the game remember cube is the second at Cube, right? So Cube had been in the game.
Remember, Cube is the second GNMC.
So, like, he had been in the game before that. But to watch the third generation come and raise the ceiling.
Yeah, yeah.
And then get involved.
He raised his.
Be a part of it.
Think about it.
Rakim didn't raise his game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kane didn't raise his game.
G-Rap didn't raise his game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The only guys from those
first two generations that raised their game
LL
Ice Cube
Fresh Prince
he raised his game
somebody else too that I'm not
too short
you think he raised his game though
hell yeah he became an incredible
where he was making
smash hit records doing his
hooks. That's crazy for MC.
I can't even imagine me
being on a number 10 record
and I'm doing my hook.
You talking about Ice or LL?
You talking about Cube or LL?
Cube!
At the same time, LL had a whole different sound
kind of like a love song. He made, his stuff was like an informant.
He made that too?
Yeah, but his whole career.
Yeah, he did.
But he had like a different type of sound in the late 90s.
Because I'm like, yo, he was crushing people.
But that was his second album.
Yeah, but that was his 19th.
He's talking about when he started doing records with Pharrell and Boyz II Men and all that shit.
Oh, yeah, he raised his game.
That's what I'm saying, like, LL was love songs.
He didn't switch it up.
He started it.
The sound, other than that one,
he had Knock You Out and then he's got
more like...
What's crazy is that's third.
That's fourth LL Coo.
Even Knock You Out is on bad.
That's true. And what's crazy is that was
the rebirth of
Wish Your Boy, who created Sample in the way we know it.
That was Maul. Maul came and did that LL album with Knock You Out and Roundaway Girl.
That was a big moment for Maul. That's Maul's biggest album.
Bally Maul, who came out in mid 80s, producing all that stuff where he just had the heavy D records and the cultural records, came and produced smashing records. So again,
the point I'm saying still,
when that third group of MCs came
around, they raised the ceiling.
That was nuts.
I'm going to tell you who y'all are sleeping on too.
I'm going to tell you
who was a record-breaking mega motherfucker back then.
Heavy D was hard.
But he was dope the first day.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, off the gate, he was dope.
But again...
I agree.
But that's the point of what we're saying about Q,
where Q wasn't what Heavy D was.
He became what he needed to become
to compete against third and fourth generation MCs.
That's crazy.
Like, Snoop wasn't just finna have the space
at the number one hits.
Guess what?
He doubled back, started dropping hits.
He figured out whatever it took as a songwriter,
as a record maker. So instead of just making art
or art that he fucked where he believed in,
he was a competitor that figured out how to compete
in the arena that he
was existing in. All the time, sure.
And he wasn't gonna let you get away. I could fuck with that.
People, like, I've heard that. I could fuck
with that. I heard Pac even say in an interview,
he's like, man, Cube, you know,
he wasn't tripping like this. You took
some of his style. You didn't have no
choice but to come in and take Q's style if you
came in this business in 90, 91, 92
and you were trying to talk tough. That was
the centerpiece of talking tough.
So everybody took you, Scarface
and Q. You know what I'm saying? That was the thing.
So that is part of the game.
Like I think 40 is brilliant at that.
40, another one that look at what's happening.
And then he like positioned himself with his own style to make it happen like how it's happening.
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I just feel like with 40, the change isn't that drastic. drastic like it makes sense like he's he adjusts
to like what's happening you know I'm saying like he finds a way to be himself inside of what's
going on where like Q to some degree became a different character well I I don't know because
I still think it was the same version of a South Central rapper, but I think it stopped being focused as much as
what I'm saying as much as how I'm saying
it. How I'm saying it is where
his gang really elevated.
And I think...
Go ahead, G. I'm sorry.
I think
how he's saying it is why his records got better.
He started to know how to say it
that would make
us all be like Say it with him
I did fuck with Pushpoms like way though
I mean if you think
Cause we talking about that version of Cube is
96
Is that Bow Down?
Yeah
It's fair to say it's Bow Down
Yeah
Right and then so Bow Down became like this
They got smash records on here
Bow Down is a huge record
Bow Down is crazy
Right this is him on the hook
Gangsters make the world go round. Think about how
rare that is. There's no singing
on these hooks. And those songs,
I mean, because that was around the same time as
West Side Connection, right? Oh, that's him.
No, production on Bow Down. No, that's
Butter. That's Butter and
Cube together.
Which Cube don't get no credit, because mind you,
Cube produced Mack 10's first
hit record, Full Life.
He co-produced a lot of the songs.
So again,
his record writing,
and that's what I'm saying,
like,
I'm not trying to say I don't see his change as an MC,
but where I do see less
or the focus
as far as how we see MCN
being the writer,
I see the growth
as a record writer.
I got you.
You can't do nothing
but really respect it.
Like,
because Snoop came and changed the game
right from when they're stealing them here.
Everything before that was Rakim.
Rakim McHugh. That's it.
Rakim McHugh. Snoop came and
everybody...
I wish Bobcat
was here to tell this story, man.
He told me about how he was
excited because Michael Jackson had called him to come
in the studio, him and LL, right?
And he said he went in there.
LL was doing a record, man.
He was in that, like, I need love mode.
And he said that Michael Jackson, man, was sitting behind a thing and was, like, you know, looking at a rep.
And he just turned down.
He says, no, that's not what I want.
I want Mama said, knock you out, man.
He said, not that soft shit.
He said, Michael Jackson said, just like that, not the that not the soft shit he said it'll go back in there and Mike's like oh that's let's just try
it another day and I used to see Michael being like how he was mad then Bob said he was gonna
leave right but he was hanging out he went out in the thing and he saw Heavy D pull up in that jeep
and he said Heavy D winning that motherfucker and Jeep and he said Heavy D went in that motherfucker
and Mike said
Hev I want you to give it to me
give it to me raw and hard
he said that thing
there's a sound clip
he said Heavy D went in the booth and went
jam jam here comes the man and Mike
was in there going crazy turning up
he said man he called LL
he told LL man that shit over with.
You ain't gonna get on that song, though.
That's cool.
LL had a better, bigger endeavor, though.
LL bad was better than Michael Jackson bad, so.
Fuck it.
I'm bad was crazy.
Yeah.
How about that?
Yeah, you don't like that at all.
LL Cool J's bad is better than Michael Jackson's bad.
No, it ain't.
Yes, it is.
No, it's not even close.
Yes, it is.
Michael Jackson, I mean, LL is hard, but Michael Jackson's bad. No, it ain't. No, it's not even close. Yes, it is. Telling me.
Michael Jackson. Doing wrong.
I mean, LL is hard, but Michael Jackson's a worldwide hard.
Rock you up.
This shit is boof.
For too long.
You're doing wrong.
You know it.
That's all corny as hell.
Man, Heavy D was hard, though.
You know Prince was supposed to do that.
It was supposed to be a collab.
Bad was supposed to be a collab with him and Prince.
And Prince told his story.
And Prince was like, he read the first line,
yo, but his mind.
He said, who's going to say that?
Who's going to say that to who?
Yeah, Bad was, LL Cool J's Bad was better than Michael Jackson's Bad.
And Make It Last Forever by Keith Sweat is better than Michael Jackson's bad.
If Prince and Michael Jackson would have did bad together,
light-skinned niggas would not be able to breathe to this day.
It'd be a wrap.
It'd be over.
So, yeah, nah, I respect Q, bro.
The more I see it, I get what happened.
Like, when I clock it in real
time and I see, like, you come
out and you on top of the world, you the man
because Chuck D was the pinnacle
so everybody looked at Chuck.
Public Enemy was killing, you know what I'm saying?
And it was like, they was
still hard and still had commercial appeal.
You know what I mean? So,
that's the highest you had to rise to.
T and them was doing they thing, that was the highest you had to rise to. T and them was doing they thing.
That was the highest you had to rise to.
So for him to write from that NWA stuff
to then his own solo stuff
and then like you said
co-produce however much
he did for Mac-10's first album
West Side Connection
then do...
I could let it go.
I could let it go. He was in like, gee, like around the same,
he was in the studio doing those type of songs
that sounded very different than like West Side Connection.
And he was like, that's about the same time.
Yeah.
Those are more like artistic schizophrenic.
You know what I mean?
You never heard no heavy D-album.
You said what?
You ever hear a heavy D-album?
Of course.
Which one?
Go back and listen to Blue Funk.
Did you ever listen to Blue Funk?
Blue Funk was probably Heavy D's best album, dog.
Okay.
I was a huge Heavy D fan, but I'm surprised y'all like him still.
Y'all usually don't like people that was making money at the time.
If I was making money, y'all was calling him a sellout in early hip hop.
Y'all was like, y'all didn't like LL enough.
They thought LL was corny.
They thought Hammer was corny.
They probably liked LL.
I like when LL was dissing niggas when he was dissing Ice-T and all of them.
There was no money to be made.
He was just throwing his life away.
Throwing his life away.
When he was starting to problem, that nigga killed that's my that's my i like that
yeah put yourself in the hard way that way
that's a real man what was that he she uh bloatitious stevie delicious what the hell is that? No songwriting. You know it. PG?
TV.
Delicious.
Good lord.
What song is that?
That shit was crazy.
That's from Patty Girl, huh?
That was on Biggie's on the Flavoring Your Ear.
Craig Mack's song.
That's right.
Let me see something.
The hate is crazy.
The hate is so crazy
when you're making money
in the late 80s and early 90s.
Remember like Fatty Girl
was a real song?
Who?
Fatty Girl.
I love that song.
Remember during the,
was that Violator Days or something?
Yeah, I like those.
I love all hip hop.
That's where Vibrant Thing
came from.
Yeah, I like that too.
Yeah, Vibrant Thing is crazy.
Q-Tip is crazy.
Yeah.
Man, that's something. You know what? I'm just getting to work now. Vibrant Thing and Vibrant Thing came from. I like that too. Yeah, Vibrant Thing is crazy. Q-Tip is crazy. Man, that's a new prize for Q-Tip.
You know what?
I'm just getting to work now.
Vibrant Thing and Vibrant Thing.
I used to think that song was suspect still.
Q-Tip did most of L.A.'s new album, right?
Yeah, the whole thing.
Yeah, that shit fire.
That shit fire, bro.
Yeah, that's some good shit on there.
40 years?
Yeah, yeah.
That nigga emceeing still.
And what's crazy is, to me, that's a perfect example.
He like, I ain't even tripping off the record, right? I'm finna just
get busy. Yeah, yeah, do what I do. Like, he
really brought in his hat. Like, he got with him.
Like, I was like, oh, 40 years in, you getting with
fourth generation emcees, fifth generation?
There's some good songs on there. Yeah, I like it.
I think that shit is dope. I done probably
listened to it about six, seven times. I ain't
heard an album that's that well put together
in a long time. Like, I like
the Glorilla album
a lot and um but it ain't strung together it's just a collection of cool songs okay but that
that uh ll record uh the force that's orchestrated they got busy that thing got a great sound yeah
yeah still what was it with y'all man why did you why why did y'all uh
why did y'all y'all, man? Why did y'all, uh,
why did y'all, y'all hated anybody that was successful?
No, it's not that.
We just didn't, like, sell out hip-hop, though.
How was it sell out? Because it was
selling out.
Well, man, I appreciate it more now,
but back then, I didn't like this.
I was reading this thing.
We were coming to see you.
Your shit is whack. I was reading this, uh, I was reading this thing I was reading this thing
about some of the history of music
and the goal for music period
is to sell out
like in the beginning you want to sell out
a sheet music then you want to sell
out a venue so if you're
selling out like the point is to sell
out of a product
but if they didn't like it, I don't get it.
It was like this hammer shit.
Women dancing in a club.
How dare you make people have a good time?
How dare you let people have fun?
You want to go?
Did you see?
Dancing is only supposed to happen in the church.
Hey, you finna get my string.
What you doing?
Hey, Steel, you was dancing with chicks to this record?
Man, I didn't dance.
I wasn't dancing to a huge trick.
I just sat on the wall and I just stared at everybody.
And I just stared at everybody.
I said, come on, then I just started saying rap
we just kicked it
we didn't do no whole bunch of dancing
y'all was a horrible
generation
as much
as I'm an MC and like rap
when I was going to parties
I did not want to be in a cypher I did not want to be in a cypher
I did not want to be in a cypher at a party
nah
you do not want to be in a cypher where the hoes is at
that's crazy
still in there be like fuck the hoes
that's back in the era to make you dance
against each other
in the hoes and the music poppin
watch out bitch
they put the cardboard down
get these hoes out of here and the music popping. Watch out, bitch. They put the cardboard down.
Get these hoes out of here.
What are these hoes doing here?
It's like a break dance.
Watch out.
Combat.
Combat.
They start battling the girls sitting right there
just looking like, Uncle Luke
came and checked. I know y'all so mad
at Uncle Luke.
Well, you know what? Uncle Luke.
We kind of like that, dog,
because the girls do crazy stuff when Uncle Luke
came on.
Y'all probably were so mad.
Y'all really danced the NWA.
That's classic.
Man, I remember they used to play games for drinks in the clubs.
People would dance to that.
I bet you they did.
I was sitting next to Luke at the bar.
You know, I'm glad I came around telling you it was cool to be fly.
Yeah.
It was cool to be fly.
It was cool to have fun.
It was cool to have fun.
It was cool to like girls.
Man.
Yeah, Stellan was mad.
They was like, fuck that. Watch out,
girl. I'm going to follow this man.
Watch out, girl.
I wasn't mad at Method Man when he did
you all on me.
I mean, he was busy.
They had a real party.
They had a real party. Like, watch out,
girls. Y'all get on the wall. Let me handle my business.
That's because the girl in that song's video
was like sitting in an alley against a brick
wall. We would dance to Big Daddy Kane. That's because the girl in that song's video was like sitting in an alley against a brick wall with her head down.
We would dance to Big Daddy Kane.
Like, ain't no half step. We would dance to that.
Oh, man.
We would just two-step.
We would just two-step.
Come on, dude.
I'm like, you know what?
Maria used to love Hammer.
Maria was so cool.
And he over there making that money.
Oh, man.
Hey, still, was it Georgetown starter jackets, or it was after that?
Man, for which one?
For which song?
High School.
High School?
No, you know what?
We used to wear the triple goose.
We used to like the triple fat goose.
Yeah, he from Cleveland.
So they thought they was New York.
Oh, like the bubble jackets.
Yeah, like the big bubble jackets.
We had those right there.
It was cold out there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We would drink 40 ounces.
We would drink 40 ounces.
You weren't doing nothing out there.
And you had one gold tooth in your mouth.
Everybody would buy a gold tooth from a liquor store.
Put it right there and had it just like this.
We had one gold tooth.
Just plywood windows.
Everybody was very
on New York's tip kind of like.
In Cleveland, huh?
And then the West Coast came out.
Then everybody started thinking they was
from California.
When Colors came out, everybody started talking about
they had a crip gang.
When Let Me Ride came out, did everybody
in Cleveland decide now's the time to buy a car?
We've been at a car. Cleveland always
was a car. I'm just talking shit, bro.
Man.
Fucking still, man. Y'all, I don't know what y'all
problem. So yeah, I'm proud of Q's
journey, though, bro. I think
his journey was...
That's really, to me, the testament to
how great of a true hip-hop artist
he is, even as a...
We started biting Tupac.
Yeah, yeah. He didn't start that, bro.
If he didn't, that's how smart he is as a human to be able
to digest and process what's in front of
him and then plug
himself in.
Think about it.
Rakim didn't
transition out of the second gen.
He never did. A lot of them didn't.
Kane didn't.
Karras one didn't.
None of them dudes did. The only one
that came out was
Q. Q but LL. That's it.
L is before them. L is before
Kane. L is before G-Rap.
L is before Rak. L is 84.
That's a little dude.
What's crazy is L and he one year older than Jay-Z.
LL.
Yeah.
One year.
That's crazy.
That's super crazy.
He came out like 16.
Did he get signed at 16 or something like that?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
He's like the Lil Wayne of Queens.
He's really like how they say Nas is the golden child. LL is the real golden child. Yeah. He's the real one. He might be the Lil Wayne of Queens. He's really, like how they say, Nas is the golden child.
LL is the real golden child.
He's the real one.
He might be the most underrated.
Lifted up Jam over his head, made it work.
Can you think about it?
That's almost, he came out 12 years before Jay.
He's a year older than Jay.
So he had 12 years of records before Jay.
And couldn't clock a billion.
Come on, man. That's why I don't clock a billion. Come on, man.
That's why I don't believe in none of that stuff, man.
Because all that stuff is fluff.
Ella's the guy, man.
What y'all think Missionary is going to sound like?
Oh, there's Dre and Snoop record?
It can't be bad.
Dre ain't going to make a bad mission.
You know how y'all get to them ages where y'all start just coming up with ideas ain't no
on the thing with them
marching with a nun or something
no they're saying missionary like doggy style
or like laying on top
like on your back instead of on your knees
you know how you get older
you see what your old lady now
y'all all just doing missionary
what still you thought it was a church You know how you get older, how you sleep with your old lady now, y'all all just doing mission now.
Man, I just love how you got this. You thought it was a church.
You just thought it was for the tortilla company.
Y'all just get old and really crazy.
All the shows is in San Juan Capistrano.
Because they moved to San Fernando or some shit.
They're going to do it. They're going to be out there
and shit. The Bible, missionary.
Oh, that's my
ticket in.
I could come in on the MC named
NC.
That's funny.
Still,
it's missionary because it's like
doggy style.
That don't make no damn sense. Another exposition. Still, you're okay. It's missionary because it's like doggy style, dog. You know, doggy style.
That don't make no damn sense.
You 60 years old, you need to call that shit
Viagra, not missionary.
You got that old.
Encrypted with the blue pill, not the blue rat.
If Dre gonna put it out,
it can't be bad.
Now, is it gonna be something that's going to...
All I wanted
to do was compete with LL Cool J and Q-Tip.
That's it.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
I just wanted to be that good as a project.
Well, if it's anything like that Compton album, I don't know.
Stop hating, bro.
We already agree.
The Compton album don't count.
That's a soundtrack.
I forgot about it.
Them two together
Long as it's as dope
As the LL Cool J
Q-Tip album
The Nas
The Nas
Hit boy album
The Common
P-Rock album
That's all I'm expecting
Yeah that Common
P-Rock album
That shit solid
That's all I'm expecting
That's all I want
That shit solid
For it to be successful We just need to do 20 to 30 thousand First week That's. That's all I'm expecting. That's all I want. That shit's solid. For it to be successful, we just need to do
$20,000 to $30,000 first week.
That's it. That's all I'm asking.
That's it. That's all. How could you ask
more parties in the business 34
years? I said first week.
You've been in the business
34 years. I just feel like aligning it
with doggy style is like
it's just a lot. I mean,
that's why they call it missionary. They wasn't smart enough to call it doggy style is like it's just a lot. I mean, that's why they call it missionary.
They wasn't smart enough to call it doggy style too.
I think E-40
can make it in a major way too.
I think it'll matter.
But I think dog, where dog and Dre
being, bro, they so past anything.
Like, what are we really thinking?
Are they going to make a modern
day gin and juice? Probably it's not gonna fuck up nothing
long as they long as it's dope
like long as it's listenable you like
man it's put together really well
they take their time and get a nice
cohesive thing and you put the
original suspects on it corrupt
on there
see
ain't be wrong with G
how did that happen? How did Eric Sherman
become an East Coast funk nigga?
He's the original.
He's the original.
EPMD was big on the West.
Yeah, but like, how did he become...
He said he on the album. I hope they took his name
so wrong that he belong on there.
Why not?
I think that was kind of before
there was...
He kind of pre-existed out of those categories.
It's just doing what he liked.
Yeah, what he fucked with.
I think if E-40 does another album,
he should change his name to E-60.
No, he probably shouldn't.
He should probably do another...
Jesus Christ.
I want to be saved.
I want to be saved. I want to be saved.
That's what he should do that over again.
All I'm saying is, I just...
Back to the point, man. I just think Cube's
journey is dope, bro. I just think
where a lot of people see the back end,
where a lot of people see the back end, the
adjustments to compete, people are like,
oh, that ain't quite what you used to do.
To still be at that elite level of competing
where that generation was at,
that says a lot.
Yeah, I mess with that.
That says a lot. That's a solid perspective.
I respect that.
As a guy, I would love to have him on here.
He's a dude who's done a lot
of stuff in different areas
that was not fully
independent, but
largely his cinematic stuff.
Okay, you're talking about so masterful.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
We be clubbing.
We be clubbing.
What's happening right now?
It's back.
Niggas don't know how to act.
We the Macs.
VIPs in the back.
We the Macs.
We stack of numbers.
My niggas like them dumber.
We ought to get them smarter.
Take my order. You only start to swim in here. No niggas like them dumber. We ought to get them smarter. You take my order.
No water.
You don't think she order.
You don't think she order.
You know how the Lonnie
got the Conny.
With Manny.
Down with this motherfucking party.
Nigga back in so we can smoke a dub.
Down to bump all these bitches in the club.
Show me love.
You know, but actually...
Actually, Ice Cube didn't forget
how to rap.
It's how he was saying it.
Man, there's a boy right there.
He was saying, but it was how he was saying
it that made people feel uneasy.
But that's why some...
It was like they was having a
show here's a crazy thing where was i flying to salt lake somewhere this wasn't even that long
ago i was flying somewhere and it was a white lady no i was flying back from somewhere and it
was a white lady's a concert with ice cube and she was flying into new mexico and she was flying
into town to see the ice Cube concert. And she was so
pumped up and rapping those
songs and I knew that she could rap those
songs because how he said it.
That's why he got bigger
because everybody could catch what
he was saying. See, in America's most
they couldn't catch that.
That's no rhythm. It ain't no melody.
It's just drum to drum.
That's why today was a birthday. It was such a big song for him. That's a bar. The ain't no melody. It's just drum to drum. That's why today was a birthday.
It was such a big song for him.
That's a bar. The only shark that swim in here
and no water.
That's a bar.
The nigga is tough, man.
And he figured it out as a songwriter
how to make everything he was saying
catchy. If you rap
Gangsta's Make the World
Go Round, he's saying some shit. He's just making it and compacting it to where it's catchy. If you rap Gangs Make the World Go Round, he's saying some shit.
He's just making it and compacting
it to where it's catchy.
I'm saying something hard,
but I'm saying something everybody knows
what I'm saying.
Show a nigga around, at least take a nigga to the
stove, y'all in for the night.
Hell no. And remember, that's for a movie
he's making.
He makes the title track for a film, and it's a top 30 song in a country.
He's on the course. Rappers ain't on the course is on a biggest smash record.
That's not normal. I mean, you got to be a really good songwriter, record writer to be on.
Listen, Cube is on his biggest record. What about if he write it, if he write the chorus?
Imagine that, because like Dog,
right, Dog, his biggest record is
Drop It Like It's Hot, but that's Pharrell.
Right, that's him singing it, which he had
a voice. Jay-Z not on none of his biggest
records, his top chart, top
charting song. Dre not on the hook on
his top charting songs.
It ain't even no hook on it.
Think about, it's hard to be on the hook of your top charting songs it ain't even no hook on it think about it's hard to be on the hook of your top
charting songs like that's the true mark of a great record maker and cube is writing this shit
and saying that's kind of honestly what probably is like the main secret ingredient for drake's
success that he's only he could be on the course. Lil Wayne, that's what makes him
a fantastic MC. He could be on the course.
It's hard to have that catchy voice
to go with that dope MC.
That's a real
tough user. Somebody's
singing. LL Cool J,
you know what I mean?
What's the name of your new album?
Grateful.
I just told you. You remember it? Grateful. I just told you, you didn't remember it?
Grateful.
I don't know if he was even here yet.
Oh, he was here.
Oh.
Grateful.
How many joints you got on there?
I want to say 12, 13, something like that.
12.
Any features on there?
Of course.
Still want to be a...
Of course.
I know Glass is on there.
Donnie Simpson's so bad.
Glass is on there.
You sound like Donnie Simpson many how many new cuts you got
on your new album is it glasses on there we got a song called steve francis on there it's crazy
steve francis steve francis that's the name of the song bro franchise francis for somebody your age
steven francis gee can we like you, you know, on the, like,
for the pod, there's, like, the description
of the thing. Can we, like,
link it in that?
Yeah, yeah, for sure. We'll do that for sure.
Oh, cool. For sure, for sure.
But still, still want to be Donnie Simpson so bad when we sit down.
So, yeah, what was your inspiration in making
this album? Niggas don't want to hear that on the pod.
Hey, did y'all hear about that
shit that happened to Burkina Faso? They killed all the people.
Who? In Africa, Al-Qaeda.
They've been doing that for 20 years.
I gotta keep more specific.
In Burkina Faso, they just killed 600
people. 600 people just got slaughtered.
Oh, yeah. It's crazy.
I think the world is about to end,
bro. That's been a big issue.
I know people who go over there because as a conversion,
they kind of force the conversion in that faith.
Throughout Africa, they go and will seize access to water
and say, well, we're going to keep water from you guys
if you don't convert to Islam and stuff like that.
That sounds like gang, man.
That sounds like just much gang, man.
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