The Breakfast Club - N.O.R.E. Interview

Episode Date: May 14, 2015

N.O.R.E. stops through for his annual visit with The Breakfast Club. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:05 damn these are my family members not one of them gonna call me like I was like then I thought about it I said let me not lose my look you know what I'm saying let me wise up real quick
Starting point is 00:03:15 now the NNNory stands for nice guy now I noticed I saw you on Twitter making up with everybody saying happy birthday to Prodigy who'd you make up to
Starting point is 00:03:22 I said happy birthday no happy birthday to the actual infamous album. Yeah. Like the anniversary, 20 year anniversary. Hell yeah. I saw you and Nas made up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's a good thing. Yeah, it's a great thing. I didn't know you and Nas had beef to that extent, but then when I saw the interview you did with Doggie Diamonds. Right. And then I remember, oh yeah, Nas did come up here and call Norrie whack and all that. Yeah, it's Power 105 history. It's like the biggest moment in Power 105.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Before the Breakfast Club got here. Before the Breakfast Club. Excuse me. Before the Breakfast Club. Excuse me. Nothing else was popping. I remember that. Y'all started from the bottom and got him up.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, we had seen each other and, you know, whatever, whatever. But just for this, that moment, I didn't realize how big that moment was. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, I love the people that he's rolling with right now like he's rolling with the new version of queensbridge and these dudes just happen to be like capone's little little man that grew up to be grown men and they like they like holding themselves down you know what i'm saying and whatever so these rappers goons no this is just dudes from the hood you know what i'm saying big
Starting point is 00:04:23 up left big up animal i want to keep picking bigging up everybody because I don't know if they want their name out. Their name's out there. He got the right crew with him. And I had seen Nas. Nas came to Miami twice while I was there. He came to Cameo, and I was too drunk. And I seen he had people that I didn't know. I'd rather deal with you with hood people.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And then I was with Busta Rhymes. Me and Busta performed at, I think, the Dolphin Stadium or something like that. And then I was With Busta Rhymes Me and Busta Performed at I think the Dolphin Stadium Or something like that And then Nas came on after And I went in Nas' dressing room And again It wasn't nobody from Queensbridge
Starting point is 00:04:52 So I walked out Because I didn't want it To be a funny situation You understand what I'm saying? So you just walk into his dressing room Like nah let me No I had just It was the backstage
Starting point is 00:05:00 I had just performed with Busta So it was only people That was basically artists That was there But I didn't want him to come out the bathroom and just see me and just be like
Starting point is 00:05:07 that's some awkward feeling you know what I'm saying it would be awkward for me if the tables was reversed so I I might get a little emotional you know what I'm saying so I came to see him
Starting point is 00:05:18 this time no no no Remy ain't gonna make me emotional Remy ain't gonna make me wanna shoot something you know I haven't drank brown liquor in over, like, 10 years. Thank God. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:29 You're saving the population. So when I seen Tim, it messed me up because I had only remembered my wrongdoings, you know what I'm saying, in the situation. And when he seen Tim, the first thing he said to me was, I'm sorry. And as a man, I didn't realize how much sorry meant. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes you be beefing with somebody, and it's something so simple like that.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Sorry, and it's like, oh, shit, I forgive you. You know what I'm saying? And we forgive each other, and it was just so, it was, as a man, it was like, it was great to see him who he'd grown to be. You know what I'm saying? Everybody know he's the best, he might be the best lyricist,
Starting point is 00:06:03 he might be the best rapper in the world, but the fact is, he paid attention that, you know, You know what I'm saying? Everybody knows he's the best. He might be the best lyricist. He might be the best rapper in the world. But the fact is, he paid attention that, you know, our drama first occurred from his wrongdoing. And obviously, I said sorry, too. And we just, we just, um, just like, yo, he offered me some Henny. I said, that's the only thing I'm not going to do,
Starting point is 00:06:22 is drink Henny, and then we drank some Rose. And he, he,. And it was so honorable of him, man. He looked at me and said, yo, our smiles is better now. It took eight years, though. Because, like I said, I just didn't want to come around, you know what I'm saying, the wrong people. So right now it's the perfect time. It's just like Mayweather and Pacquiao. Like they could have fought five years ago, but they fighting now. And I think that maybe I needed to grow more you know I'm saying cuz I got parts in
Starting point is 00:06:47 here that's wrong too you know I'm saying and um it man like this you have any questions though like no why why you call my name no random when you call you know let me be honest this is we have spoke after that and we saw each other after that so I don't I don't know what, you know, I was young. I was young. It was dumb. It was dumb on my behalf. But like I said, when we seen each other, he looked at me, he said,
Starting point is 00:07:12 oh, smiles is better now. Your smile is popping right now. I don't know if he meant. Oh, thanks. Look, answer this. I think she's. She been on here all morning. I'm young.
Starting point is 00:07:20 No, no, no. I'm glad she been saying a little bit of stuff. Shut up. He said to me, he said to me, let's go to the stage. And, you know, Liv, like Liv is, you know, it's not really a stage. So when we went and we got on stage, it was like, it was a moment of hip hop. You know what I'm saying? The conversation was at the club?
Starting point is 00:07:35 You had the initial conversation? Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? That was last week, right? I was supposed to get with them. And I messed around and did something wrong. And I was the only place we could and I was like, I just gotta get it over with, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Because I'm sorry. Nas was my friend. I ate in his house before. You can't take back something like that, you know what I'm saying? And then, like I said, when he said that, he looked at us and he's like, man, let's go show the world. And I didn't know what he meant. So I thought he was gonna grab the mic from Stevie J and be like,
Starting point is 00:08:04 you know what I'm saying? look at me and Nori together. You know what I'm saying? I thought he was going to do that. He was like, put on some music. And I'm looking and I'm like, I wasn't ready. So y'all performed. We performed. Was anybody in the trunk? Hell no. We looked at each other like, I ain't ready. You know what I'm saying? But it was a great moment and I really
Starting point is 00:08:19 respect who he turned out, you know what I'm saying? I ain't seen him in so long. I really respect who he turned out to be. He's an icon, man. And turned out and you know he's my friend so I'm really like I really got two days after I take no pictures we do never just I was on my left rack he's doing his Queens Bridge you know just and it was beautiful man it's a beautiful thing I mean body in the trunk to that I would never like like envy you my god that's my favorite but you know why we can't do Body in the Trunk Part 2? Because it was a moment.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, it's true. Very true. And it was a moment. Like, you can't, we can't. Like, I would never try to do Bad from TV Part 2. Like, you know, a lot of people have tried. I really wish they would stop touching my music. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Like, because when they get older, when they get older and they realize that these young kids are touching it and not doing it righteously, you can't get on Sometimes, which is a record I dedicated to my father and Pun, and talk about sometimes I want to flip bricks. And sometimes, I don't actually like that. You know what I'm saying? That was a record from my father. So, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people, if anybody ever tried to get me on the
Starting point is 00:09:25 record and i didn't do it it's because they tried to recreate one of my records without really showing me the respect you know i'm saying like yeah you know some of these records i don't own i don't own all the publishing but some of them i own spiritually it's like a person who lives in the hood lived in the hood 30 years they don't own that apartment but they feel like they own that apartment you know you know i'm? Certain things you just gotta leave alone. Like a band from TV. I'm not doing a body in the truck. Nobody's gonna speak like that. And there's nobody that can replace Punn.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You know what I'm saying? There's nobody that can replace Punn, so it's disrespect to even try to attempt that. There's been a lot of great Latin rappers after Punn, I'm sorry, but nobody ain't been... Doesn't his son rap though? I think his son does rap, yeah. You could throw him on, you know. I don't know if this is a curveball, but I think his son should sign with Joe Crack.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's who Punn rhymed like before Punn got with Joey. And Joey showed Punn how to make hit records. I don't care what everybody, I don't care about no politics. Don't bring up none of that to me. That is factual evidence. I knew Big Dog Punisher. And when he got with Fat Joe, Fat Joe showed that man how to make hit records.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You know what I'm saying? So you're saying Pun's son now sounds like how Pun sounded. Pun sounds, he sounds like Pun when Pun had no guidance, which is not a diss. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's a diamond. A diamond is still a diamond.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You just got to polish that. And it's just like Remy. I know. You've been here enough to know you can't curse. I know. If you curse, you're going straight to diamond. You just got to polish that mark. And it's just like Remy. I know. You've been here enough to know you can't curse. I know. But you know, I'm sorry. You want to go online? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm sorry, because I don't want to go online. Express yourself, Noreen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but yeah, just like Remy. Like, I hear Remy, and I'm like, I feel like, pause. I think Joe should be behind that. You know what I'm saying? Because that chemistry, you just can't buy it. know I'm saying you can't force it neither so
Starting point is 00:11:07 as long as they don't force it I think I think I think it's still something there why do you think point like I think point is like mm-hmm dumb nice like on the low and it's going people hate when I say this but on the level in the Tories big nice but they never mentioned him with the greats. Only people you hear mention him with the greats is Puerto Rican, Spanish. That was mad racist, but I get it. Why do you think that is? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:33 You know, you're right. To me, Pun was actually, like if you listen to his first album, he rhymes with people like Black Thought because he thought lyrically in that realm. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think
Starting point is 00:11:47 most black people get that if you're not even, you know what I'm saying? Damn, I'm black and Spanish. if you're not, you know what I'm saying? Like,
Starting point is 00:11:54 because he was, he, he didn't want to be, Pun didn't want to be nice for a Puerto Rican. Pun wanted to be nice. But that's, like,
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm not rhyming with Black Thought consciously. Like, if I'm on Black Thought, hold on. Let me go write something. I gotta write,ming with Black Thought consciously. If I'm on Black Thought, hold on. Let me go write something. Let me take 10 days. And Pun consciously wanted to let people know this is how
Starting point is 00:12:11 nice I am. And sometimes Pun was a backpack rapper. You know what I'm saying? Without Fat Joe. You know what I'm saying? And don't get me wrong. That's what I see. Fat Joe know how to make hit records. To this day, you go to Fat Joe, he just constantly want to play your hit record.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know what I'm saying? That's his thing. That's what I think what Punn is. Punn is in heart, he was the underground of the underground. You know what I'm saying? I see you've also been having some conversations with Damon Dash as well. Yeah, it's pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Why is it weird? I don't know. It's weird. That's my man. State property three? Yeah, um, state property, stop. Oh, yeah, it's true, it's true. I hope it happens, man.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I first spoke to Beans. It was crazy because, um, I seen Dame on here. Did you? He was here? He was here. Everybody remember that one. And I just felt like I owed him a phone call.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I didn't know why. I just was like, yo. Nah, I'm not trying to change this. Do a joke. Y'all foul. Y'all foul. Why did you feel like you had a call? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:22 It was just something wasn't right. I just felt like. Something was off. Something was off. I wanted to say I love you. You needed a hug. That's what it sounded like. I don't know about... I don't want to go that far. You just needed a hug.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I just felt like... You needed a hug. Dame did so much things for a lot of rappers indirectly and directly that I just felt like I owed him a phone call. So I was just like, yo, Dame, I don't know what's going on. He was in good spirits. He put me on the phone with three different people. He was like, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I'm going to put you on the phone. I was like, Super Harlem. I'm like, wow, that's that Super Harlem shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, and then he said, yo, I just spoke to Beans. And it was just like, whoa, okay. I had thought they had something. And we got on the phone.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And for three days straight, we was talking and speaking about Hong Kong, and let's go over here, and let's go over here. And it was just weird for me because if this can happen, this would be a surreal moment. This would be real. It's got to be an ill story, though. It has to be because State Property 2,
Starting point is 00:14:22 you got to realize I would have never played in State Property 2 had Petey Crack not got locked up. So when they presented me with the role, I was like, I didn't like it. You know what I'm saying? So I said, if you're going to make me act, if you're going to make me be somebody, it's going to be me. I don't want to act. I want to be me. Oh, so your role was supposed to be Petey Crack.
Starting point is 00:14:41 My role was supposed to be Petey Crack. And I didn't like it. I didn't like Pedro. That's my man, Petey Crack. Don't was supposed to be Petey Crack. And I didn't like it. I didn't like Pedro. That's my man, Petey Crack. But hold on. I can't call me Pedro. I felt like it was racist. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Every time they said guala, they actually had guala in the script. I was like, yo, this is foul. This is for like, but you work for El Pollo Loco. I was El Pollo Loco. But that's what it was. I changed my name to El Pollo Loco. And I made them write the script to cater to his meme. Got you.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And I think Dame is still powerful enough to pull it off. You know what I'm saying? I just feel like me, him, and Beans on the phone probably wasn't enough. It probably had to be in face because, you know, Dame is is smarter than me let me just what i mean by that is i could do two things at once i can probably roll a blunt and send a text as far as i go as far as i go okay as far as i go this dude is doing the clothing. That's much smarter than me. I don't actually, I need A, B, and C. I got my
Starting point is 00:15:49 A, B, and C. Dude, when you get to W and all that, I get confused. That's why I got friends with you. You know what I'm saying? I got the goon Ching Bing who just came home for 10 years. I need that to help me out. I got seventh grade education. I know I could, I could, I know I'm smart to a certain extent. You know education I know I could I could I know
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'm a smart to a certain extent you know Sam Sam street smart like yeah but I thought I just I think Dame is he gonna get it together I think it's gonna happen I mean it was announced like it seemed like they announced it like no I mean I was with it I announced it too and it's just you know he I'm feeling like I'm feeling like he's going through you know I'm feeling like he's going through, you know what I'm saying, what he's going through, which I can't speak about. I don't know nothing.
Starting point is 00:16:28 What is he going to do? Chatty Patty. We ain't going to do that. Even though he puts out all the business. And we ain't going to be. This is my thing. I'm going to give you all this. You ain't going to be negative Nancy.
Starting point is 00:16:37 That's the other one. Negative Nancy. I know a lot of negative Nancys. People who hit me was like, yo was like, yo, I'm like, what is this about? Like, if you got beat for them, that's your thing.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I ain't never hit you and say that. It must be like, it's certain people that didn't, like, it's certain people that just,
Starting point is 00:16:57 they don't, they just want to be negative about everything. You know what I'm saying? And negative Nancy's, man, let's watch out for them. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Could you and Prodigy ever be cool? Yo, listen, man, I mean Or Could you and Prodigy Ever be cool Yo listen man I told you You just win Shout out the infamous album Listen man I never
Starting point is 00:17:09 I didn't want to speak about Because I didn't want to feel like Every time we come up here We speak about them But I'm a What do we do Because I just have to be real Listen
Starting point is 00:17:16 At the end of the day If you smack me Right And I shoot you I'm wrong-a-ra Wrong-a-ra It's a word It's a word I'm using that word Wrong-a-ra I'm wrong-a-ra. Wrong-a-ra. It's a word. That's a word. It's a word.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm using that word wrong-a-ra. It's a word. I'm wrong-a-ra. Wrong-a-ra. For shooting you. Right. But if you would have never smacked me, you would have never got shot.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm glad you used that analogy because I've been using this all week when it comes to the Baltimore riots. Okay. If somebody smacks you, and I say this about anything, it don't matter how you react. You should have never smacked me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You should have never smacked me. You can't be mad at the person's reaction. That's a fact. So I don't understand why he's mad at me. Like, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you wrote the book and you called me and you said, I didn't diss you. I felt it. Whatever I said on Twitter that day, I believe I don't really erase you. So, but I defuse this statement. I don't really erase you. But I
Starting point is 00:18:05 defuse this statement. When the book came out, you got people like Angela Yee interviewing him saying, yo, you know, Norrie got beat up in here. He's like, yeah. No, dude, you just hit me and said that you didn't mean that, and I know the real story. And I won.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I really won this. You were wronger. I was wronger. No, no, no, I wasn't was wronger. No, no, no. I wasn't wronger then. No, no, no. I was righterer then. That whole situation, I'm really right.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm really the righteous. That's why, by the grace of God, nothing really happened to me other than the jump in and then we got up and we got them. So what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:18:40 by you bringing it up, this was some street, this was between us. Right. By you bringing it up and then by me capitalizing off of the situation, me being fans of y'all, and every time they slipped up, Havoc said this, I'm on y'all heels. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Call me up. Call me up. I'm wrong girl, right? But you were wrong first. Would you ever write a book? Because you didn't write a book. I didn't write a book. But if you do, you got to put everything.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You got to be completely honest. I did. You got to you gotta put everything. You gotta be completely honest. I did. You gotta apologize a couple times if you haven't already. I have no problem. Is it gonna be like prodigy book? A prodigy book is dope. You gotta tell that history. The thing is, I'm gonna tell my history. I'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:19:18 what I did or what I heard. And if I say what I heard, I won't place myself in that situation that's my only problem with people who do books like that when they say yo you know we was there you know we went to go ride and we went to nah you wasn't there you heard about you heard about it you know I'm saying I was there and I let them things go now of course if I shoot at you and your y'all get shot your crew crew members is probably going to go out,
Starting point is 00:19:46 yo, he was nervous. He was like, no, but you still got popped. You know what I'm saying? A shot is a shot. I don't care. You got to talk about the whole history because it's very interesting. I know some of it. And it's interesting. I love the Prodigy's book. I think Prodigy's book should be a movie.
Starting point is 00:20:00 You know what? I'm going to tell you the truth. Nah, I'm not going to read it. I was going to say I'll read it, but I probably would. I love it. I'm trying to get into audio books while I jog and shit like that. I will look into it, but my book is going to be more of my experience.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I don't have no beef with Prodigy. Nah, we're not that popular. I kind of hate answering those questions, but I see he's mad at me, and he's mad at me because of my reaction and you just got to be a grown man we all got to be a grown man and just get over it but my book is going to be based on my story you have a title yet?
Starting point is 00:20:34 I was calling it I forget what I called it on the run eating Jay took my title on the run maybe super thug instead of super head oh yeah definitely I'm not a super head no I'm kidding On the run. Yeah, Jay took my title on the run. Maybe Super Thug instead of Superhead. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'm not in Superhead.
Starting point is 00:20:46 No kidding. No, no, no. I'm not in Superhead. I avoided that situation. Good for you. Superhead. You have a dope story. Just you and the industry and how you deal with industry people. Tell us something, Envy.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Leak something real quick. Yeah, leak something. See, I think I told this story before. One time I'm in my basement doing my mixtape, Nori Calls Me. And he has a DJ hanging upside down. He's out there torturing because the DJ leaked the Nori record, and the DJ told Nori that I said it was okay to play the record. Yo, he never smoked weed?
Starting point is 00:21:14 It's memory. It's your memory. Envy got a lot of war stories. Nori calls me. Nori says, Envy, I'm going to ask you one time. Did you give this guy permission to leak this record? Now, if you say you gave him permission, I'm going to you one time Did you give this guy Permission to leak this record Now if you say You gave him permission
Starting point is 00:21:26 I'm gonna let him go But if you say you didn't We gonna tear his ass up I said No I'm gonna be honest I didn't give him permission Oh I start hearing Click
Starting point is 00:21:35 Well I'm trying to think Say the DJ's name Chatty Patty I know who it is I'm trying to think Did Pun do that to Who Kid first Or Who Kid in the trunk
Starting point is 00:21:43 No you did it You did it first I did it first Okay So I'm trying Who Kid in the trunk. No, you did it first. I did it first? Okay. So I'm about to talk Pun how to do it. So what did you do to the DJ? Nah, you know, at the time... Why was he screaming?
Starting point is 00:21:52 At the time, you know, we had dropped a war report, and we had like 18 tracks. I'm just giving you an example. I don't know. And on his mixtape, he had like 11. Wow. And I think he was trying to big us up, but he didn't realize that people wasn't buying our album. They were going buying your mixtape. You know And I think he was trying to big us up, but he didn't realize that people wasn't buying
Starting point is 00:22:05 our album. They were going by your mixtape. You know what I mean? It wasn't even downloads back then. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, to make records back then, it was so hard. Like, to get Nas in the studio, to get a Busta Rhymes in the studio, there was no emailing you.
Starting point is 00:22:19 There was no... It was an eight-inch reel. You know what that looked like? That looked like a little weight. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you run around a little midget. You know what that shit looked like? That's like a little weight. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you run around a little midget. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:26 So if you get Nas on your record, you get Mobb Deep on your record, this was a hard task. So for him to just put the whole thing on the album, and, like, he blamed Clue and Envy. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, me and Clue had beef, but, you know, we never spoke about it. We had it like men, handled it like men.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Clue was my man. You know what I'm saying? Clue was one of those things, whichever one of these guys I catch first is getting hung from the roof. Oh, no, no, no, no. He blamed Clue and Envy, but Clue and Envy didn't do it. It wasn't on their mixtapes, you know what I'm saying? They use it regularly. So he used it in a way where it was disrespect.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Now, what if Envy said that he did do it? Would you have went and hung him from the basement? I think Envy would have told me like at the time Envy was actually close man He knew I lived Envy gets a lot of money he don't even know me no more It takes me a week to call him up and stop me Well you know you did try to charge him all that money
Starting point is 00:23:16 I still think he's exaggerating No he's like That was supposed to be a man My album has everybody on it bro DMX, Jay-Z I'm not defending myself That was supposed to be a man. My album has everybody on it. Nah, let me think. Let me think. DMX. Nah, let me think.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Jay-Z. I'm never defending myself. Ja Rule. I call Lori. No, he says. How much did he try to charge you? $30,000. $30,000?
Starting point is 00:23:34 To this day. I think it was the time me and Clue had beef, and I thought that, I was like, yo, they're never going to mess with me on that side anyway. So maybe I did do that. I never denied it. I never denied it. No, he was really hurt about that. Yo, I never denied it I never denied he was really hurt about that like this random he goes yo I stood to be in the same car
Starting point is 00:23:51 around I'm working tell them I never had something real the day though he was like if you my man you know I'm saying I'll do it. Rick Hall said something real the other day, though. He was like, if you my man, you know what I'm saying, I'll do it for you because you my man. But if you're getting a check from the label, let me get some of that bread, too. Nah, it's true. Yo, I'm going to be 100% honest. Foxy Brown taught me that.
Starting point is 00:24:15 One day, Foxy hit me. She was like, she jumped on my record. And she was like, yo, you're going to give me $30,000 for it. I was like, oh, that was like distortion. She's like, yo, I'm going to jump on it, but you're going to give me $30,000 for it i was like oh that was like distortion she's like yo i'm gonna jump on it but you're gonna give me 30,000 for it um no i don't think it was bang i think it was um um nothing remix homeboy i can't remix so i gave her 30,000 and then two months later she gave me 30,000 back for a hook so i thought that was honorable if you do charge me if i do charge you i'm gonna charge give you that bread back so i thought that was a way to to hustle so yeah yeah I wondered about
Starting point is 00:24:48 that bang-bang record I don't know why I randomly was thinking about this is a good question did y'all have beef with Biggie and Junior Mafia them too I mean after that record came out obviously um there's the shootout the shootout the shootout yeah so um well did we have beep nah it was really like like i don't i don't want to call her inga because i was calling her foxy already so you know foxy was a person i considered my sister at the time and still do you know i'm saying we had we had the studio and she had wrote a direct response to kim. But she wrote like 17 verses. Like the verse on Bang Bang was actually like the,
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know how you call it, the less disrespectful one, right? Let me just say about Foxy, she will pop off. She will pop off the mouth in a minute. Like she's the one that when you go to the club,
Starting point is 00:25:37 you're going to get into a fight because of what she says. But why on the Bang Bang record though? I guess we were like, you know, we were being petty. You know what I'm saying? Alchemist did the beat. It was kind of down with Mobb Deep.
Starting point is 00:25:47 He's down with Mobb Deep. And Foxy walked in the studio and was like, yo, give me a record to jump on. And when she did it, this was like, like I said, it was the less disrespectful. And I didn't know how disrespectful it was, so I brung it to Puff. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Puff was cool. And Puff was like, he was turned up. He was like, no, we don't want you ever Let somebody diss me On your record If them motherfuckers Want to diss me You can diss me I was like
Starting point is 00:26:09 So Puff you don't want me to use it He's like you cool You can use it Like I knew he wasn't a hater I was like Puff is A different type of animal Like he flipped Don't get me wrong
Starting point is 00:26:17 Puff actually flipped on me He was like Yo don't you ever let And I'm like That's when I realized Puff was gangsta Way before the night in Live with Drake, because I was there that night, too.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But let's move on. No, we're going to talk about that. We're going to go back to that. We're going to go back to that. But, yeah, it was real. So, Puff, I didn't really know what she was saying to Kim, you know what I'm saying? And I had never met little Kim to this day.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I never met her. You never met her to this day? That's crazy. I'm about to ask you, Kim holds a grudge. She probably still don't like you. What, against me? I'm saying? And I had never met Lil' Kim to this day. You never met her to this day? How about after Kim holds a grudge? She probably still don't like you. What, against me? I was in a club with her and we were supposed to do the BET cypher together and she ain't saying anything. You've never met Lil' Kim? I've never met Lil' Kim.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I've never been in the same room. I've been in the same room, but I don't think we've ever, like, I've met Big, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, C's my man. Like, that met Big, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, C's my man. Like, that's probably the most embarrassing beef I ever had in hip-hop. With no Junior Mafia, period. Because here I was, I used to smoke
Starting point is 00:27:13 blunts with Big and Branson. Like, I remember one day Branson, we went to Branson, Redman and Biggie Smalls is behind. They the ones serving the weed. Biggie Smalls and Redman my dude
Starting point is 00:27:26 look Branson had to go do something and he left these dudes with the keys to the weed spot so Branson was the weed man yeah I'm not blowing up
Starting point is 00:27:35 nothing everybody knows that I'm not from here and Big and Redman was in there they're like yo they're giving you
Starting point is 00:27:41 lottie pops what you want you want a 50 you want a 100 I'm like yo Big what the fuck are you doing? He's like, yo, Eddie. Eddie, because that's the dude who was running.
Starting point is 00:27:47 He's like, Eddie left out, man. Me and Red are doing this. He left out. And these niggas was back there. Me and Big smoked. They was rapping at the time? Yes. He had the cherry red Lex.
Starting point is 00:27:57 The Lex truck you talking about? It was right outside. I guess Big really ain't drive, so he's waiting for his people to come back. So until they came back, he was serving the weed. This is a fact. Me and Big sat outside, drank champagne, smoked, and for him to pass away and for us to have any friction, like, I should have got on the phone with them immediately once Fox, you know what I'm saying, let her go.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And, you know, Kim, let it be a girl fight, you know what I'm saying? Because immediately it transpired. And they got to the point of gunshot. They got federal yeah yeah what happens if you see kim now you think you would say what's that last night he said the other night no no but he hasn't said nothing to her would you say something sorry oh i wasn't there i wasn't there like no this is facts what you're talking about i wasn't there i don't got nothing to say sorry about i was saying got you wasn't around i wasn't there okay I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Y'all not putting me there.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I was not there. But you were there at Live with Puffy, Diddy, and Drake. I didn't see nothing. What I seen was when Puff walked back into the club, it reminded me of why I'm from New York.
Starting point is 00:29:02 We get on some bullshit sometimes. It don't matter what it is, no matter how much money you got. And I guess Puff got it off his chest. And when he walked through, he was like, no, he was walking through. And I was like, I'm sugar Puff. I'm scared of Puff. He was like, you know, he was talking to me over here. And every New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like, me and Fab, me and Fab, for some reason, me and Fab have never really kicked it at all. Like, just, I don't think it's ever been beef, but I felt like it's never been 100% love neither. Like, his people was going to be cool with it. But that night, Fab grabbed me. He was like, yo, what's good, my brother? I turned around.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I gave him a hug. And he was like, yo, just in case I'm over here. I was like, Brad, I'm over here. And that little thing just let me know that it was open. You know what I'm saying? And then Boss was over here, and then Fat Joe was over here. And it was like, that's the only time I see New York show love is out of town. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Because at the end of the day, even though me and Fab, I don't have his number, he don't have my number, there's no way in hell I could ever see anybody trying to front on him without me trying to get that person. You think New York dudes be having beef with each other just because they don't simply walk up to each other and be like, yo, what's up, man? That's why I like living in Miami because if I would have
Starting point is 00:30:14 maybe approached Nas in New York, I'll give you an example. One day, one time I stayed in Miami for six, eight months, straight. I came back to New York. I walk in the club. I'm like yo, what's up? Yo, yo. My dudes was like, if you don't stop smiling.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And I'm like, yo, it's winter time and we in the smoking section. And I'm like these dudes is literally like they looking at me like, you chatty patty ass. And I'm looking like, what did I do? They're like, yo, you chatty patty ass. You chatty patty. And I'm looking like, what did I do? They're like, yo, you take that Miami shit off.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So that's an example. It's a mentality. It's a mentality out here. It's like, yo, don't be happy even when you happy. Don't let the next man know you happy because it's so many of us that somebody would take that as weakness. And it's true. But we not in jail. That's why I like Miami.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'm out there like this. Having a good time. I'm doing the hang-hang dance. It feels like that. I was at Pro Styles Party the other day, and everybody was, you know, rappers, everybody was there. We was on one side.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And I wouldn't go over there and speak. I just was like, I'm not going over there. He's just a bougie queen. No, no, but that's how you feel. I'm not going over there. And then when I was leaving, I was like, what's wrong with me? Let me go speak to my baby.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Exactly. What's wrong with you? Like, Nori Walker, here's just now. All right. If he ain't paying Nori no attention. All right. Yeah, he was on it. He was on it. You know what I'm saying? He was on it. I don like, what's wrong with me? Let me go speak to my baby. Exactly. What's wrong with you? Like, Norrie Walker, here's just now. All right. NBA ain't paying Norrie no attention. All right. Yeah, he was on it. He was on it.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He was on it. I don't know what he was on. And then Norrie had to be like, yo, we all right? Yeah, yeah, we all right. I thought he was going to have a Dame dance again. I was like, yeah, what's going on? But did you and Dame have beef back in the days or no? No.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I've never met Dame before. You've never met him before? It seemed like it was a real friend. No, that's a lie. You've never met him before? One of y'all are dream. No, that's a lie. You've never met him before? One of y'all are salty about not signing at Rockefeller. I'm just saying. One of y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I just couldn't tell which one of y'all it was. He might have gave you a deal. You might have said, I'm sorry. It started from the first question when I was like, how did y'all meet? Because I honestly wanted to know. No, let's talk about where it really started from.
Starting point is 00:32:02 No, it really started from Charlamagne wearing the t-shirt and the hat. He had a t-shirt that had Jay-Z's picture. It's a legend. That's that what? It's a legend that had Jay-Z's face on it. Yeah, he wore a t-shirt
Starting point is 00:32:13 that said Rock Nation and Jay-Z. So he was kind of sold. So when I asked him, how did y'all meet? Because I was really curious. Wait, in the interview you had that on? Yeah, Rock Nation
Starting point is 00:32:20 had Jay-Z t-shirt. I didn't peep that. I didn't peep that. So it was t-shirt from the beginning. He walked in here and the dog barked and he said, the dog feels the bad energy. That's where it started.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's where it started. So when I asked him the question, he was already defensive. So, you know, you defensive, I'm defensive. Right, right, right. I ain't going to back down. You ain't going to back down. It's too much later. Why are you talking about that?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like Fredro, I ain't going to lie. I feel like you would get along with Fredro. Like, I kid you not. Nah, I don't think so. He lies too much for me. Oh, I don't know nothing about that, but, you know, they real cool dudes. I was like, I don't know. It's a rumor. I like Sticky. Like, it's a rumor about you somewhere that people was like,
Starting point is 00:32:58 your Charlamagne goes at people. And I'm like, that's absolutely not with me. You know what I'm saying? I got to judge. Like, it's a lot of friends that I have that people say, hey, that friend is a scumbag. Okay. He's not a scumbag. Not to me.
Starting point is 00:33:10 He's not a scumbag with me. Right. So I have to judge this person based upon how they treat me. You know what I'm saying? And that's just what it is. I just like having honest conversation. You like having honest conversation. I love it too, man.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Like, I just told these people, man. Listen, man, I'm 37 years old. I sat on my balls the other day. Shit is real. I know I'm getting old. You sat on my balls the other day it is real i know i'm getting old like yo you sat on your balls yeah yeah like that's real that's real like you know what i'm saying this is how you know you're getting old listen wait hold on i ain't got no grays i ain't got no grays uh-huh god that means what so that means you're gonna drop when you get a certain age so that means your gravity pulls your balls down and that's why you never have them before? It's an app called Balls? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's how old does he look. All right, cool. Yeah, I ain't like that. I ain't want to be on there. I got my passport on me, though. Now he's going to look old because he put the peace sign up. Oh, word, word. Yeah, but so, you know, I'm still working with the Good Belt Gang.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You know what I'm saying? Hopefully me and Mike Kaiser is going to get together, sit down. So my next maneuver is I really want to be a CEO. You know what I'm saying? So you don't want to rap no more? I'm going to always rap because it's not even a hobby. It's something that I use as a vehicle that's therapeutic. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:18 I don't jog anymore to lose weight. You lost weight, though. You lost a lot of weight. But I don't do it to lose weight. I do it simply because it's therapeutic to me. You know what I'm saying you know I like jogging for that same reason it's the only time I think and I don't have my phone with me yeah I kid you I have my phone and have my headphones in there and I would not play no music you know what I'm saying it's just it's therapeutic to me and that's what music is making music is actually a therapy for
Starting point is 00:34:42 me you know what I'm saying so but right now like I feel like I have to take this next step into this life. So you're talking to Mike Kaiser? Me and Mike Kaiser is talking about sitting down right now. Wow. A couple of other people, but not to throw it out to all these millions, but I'd rather work with somebody that I know. You know what I'm saying? I was there when Mike Kaiser smoked dust. You know what I'm saying? Right. I was there when Mike Kaiser smoked dust.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You know what I'm saying? I was there. What? PCP, baby. Is that why he went blind? I don't know about that. That's why he won't smoke no more. Listen, if you tell him to smoke around Method Man,
Starting point is 00:35:16 I bet you he'd run out the room. I just smoked with Kaiser last week. No, okay. Smoke around Method Man. You know what? I'm not going to lie. One of my friends smoked after Method Man at a video shoot one day,
Starting point is 00:35:26 and she started having seizures, and we had to take her out of there. Okay, hold on, because I don't want this to seem like I just said meth is doing some crazy shit. No, but he told me it was just weed. It's just a rap about smoking death. Yeah, so back in the days, meth, I forget what they was doing.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He was like, you'll watch if you catch Mike Kaiser. And then he caught Mike Kaiser. He put one blunt in the siphon full of some other shit. And I forgot, the other dude, what's the actor do? Was Kaiser wearing glasses? They was playing the guitars. It was weird. one blunt in the siphon full of some other shit. And I forgot the other dude, what's the actor dude? Was Kyler Wayne Gladys in it?
Starting point is 00:35:45 They was playing the guitars. It was weird. He passed away. I want to say Malik Yoba, but that's not it. Malik Yoba's alive.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Or actor. I forget. I forget. I forget. He said, was Kyler Wayne Gladys in it? He just went,
Starting point is 00:36:00 PM Dawn, the fat dude with the dreads that KRS do on stage. He f***ed me up stage he f***ed me up he f***ed me up but I was saying I was staying smooth
Starting point is 00:36:08 I was trying to stay smooth now you doing a reality show that is funny listen I got I get offered reality shows I bet every the closest one
Starting point is 00:36:15 the closest one I was coming to was couples therapy what they actually hit me and the reason why I said I said Ghostface is a respectful dude yeah yeah DMX is a respectful dude. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 DMX is a respectful dude. Chingy. Tretch. Chingy was on there? Yeah. He was? Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't do my math on there.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Those wasn't in my lesson. Oh, yeah. Tretch was on there. Word. Yeah, Tretch. You never studied Chingy? I ain't studied my Chingy. My Chingy 110, God.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Word. I had no idea. But, yeah, I was close. I'm close. I mean, I don't know because... You need therapy, though? One, I love my wife. I just want to know how to love her more.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Okay. That's real. Hey! I'm using that one. I'm using that one. I got a record dropping produced by DJ Mustard, Todd Dollar Signs, Rick Ross, and my boy City Boy D on there.
Starting point is 00:37:03 CNN actually has an album that is dropping June, not June 16th, the week after June 16th. I'm going to send you the CNN speech. Let's go back to that thing. That sounds like a reach for radio. Nah, see that's the thing about it. When I did Tadal, which is the joint with me,
Starting point is 00:37:20 French, Pusha, 2 Chainz, right? I felt like that. I felt like that I felt like I was compromising who I was the reach for radio you felt
Starting point is 00:37:30 not the reach for radio but the reach for that sound and when I listen to Ty Dolla it doesn't sound like me so Ty Dolla Signs I've been working with
Starting point is 00:37:38 Ty Dolla for like 2-3 years way before I should have spit you were gonna spit I do that every day. Oh, my gosh. I've been working with Ty Dolla Signs,
Starting point is 00:37:48 and Ty Dolla Signs, he catered to a record that was just for me. And when he gave it to me, I felt... I took my time. Okay. Make sure the box has tape in it. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. All right, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So, I mean, to make a long. Cool, cool, cool, cool. All right, all right, cool. So, I mean, to make a long story short, this record sounds like me. You know what I'm saying? Me and Pharrell, again, I try to take Pharrell to another atmosphere because, you know, we recently did a record and we had the joint. The thing, Lord. The bystander screaming, Lord. The AK screaming, Lord. At the same time, he got happy out.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I knew they wasn't going to clear the record. You got the biggest, and I told him, I said, Pharrell, it's stupid for me and you to do gangster records. Like, you got all these girls following you. I didn't want to like a 2% of that. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, I got to stop making gangster music. I am tired of
Starting point is 00:38:45 having... Like, I had a birthday party last year. Dudes from Astoria came to see me. Dudes from Queensbridge came to see me. Dudes from Ravenswood. Dudes from Left Frack 40 Projects. And nobody said nothing to each other. Like, everybody's just in the room like, what's up, Nori? It's cool.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I'm like, damn, they couldn't walk over to my section. I couldn't walk over to another section. And I said, this reflects my music. Karis once said a long time, watch what's up, Nori? It's cool. I'm like, damn, they couldn't walk over to my section. I couldn't walk over to another section. And I said, this reflects my music. Karis once said a long time, watch what you say because you attract it. I need to stop. I am too old for a T-R-N-Y. You know what I'm saying? I'm too old for another, y'all don't want to.
Starting point is 00:39:17 On my solo career, I'm going for the broads. You know what I'm saying? If I still make it joints, I'm going for the. Because, man, it's just, it's too many guys who come to my shows, man. And it's just terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You gotta grow up sometime. I've been growing up. It's just my crowd ain't growing with me. My crowd want me to be ignorant. Like, when I post a picture,
Starting point is 00:39:38 I post a picture with Nas, everybody's like, oh, yo. I post a picture with Wayne. People be like, man, f*** Wayne. You ain't supposed
Starting point is 00:39:43 to be sitting... Wayne was on my... Wayne was the first supposed to be sitting. Wayne was on my, Wayne was the first feature you ever heard. Wayne was on the motherf***ing album. That was one of your first. 1999. And all things. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:51 For real. I had the whole cash money, B. You know what I'm saying? I paid Baby, and then the next time Baby came and I hired him, Baby said, play boy. This one's on me, play boy. That's when Baby was that dude.
Starting point is 00:40:03 That's when he was that. That's when his name was Baby. It wasn't even Birdman. It was Baby. You know what I mean? Now he's still that dude, but God bless their situation, man. That's one of the funniest, weirdest things. I had never seen this.
Starting point is 00:40:16 If you tell me Tupac was leaving death row, I could say maybe I saw it. There's no rumor upon wanting to leave Terra Squad. So these stories, I don't know where these stories come from. But, you know, this situation, man, I want to say God bless them both, you know what I'm saying? Because it's a weird situation right now, man. You know, Mac Mane and Bird and CeeLo and Wayne and Cortez and all y'all. I hope they work it out, you know what I'm saying? It's not really my position to speak on.
Starting point is 00:40:45 But I have to watch because it's on my TV. But God bless them, brother. I do feel like you don't get enough credit for a lot of things you stamp, though. Go ahead. I'm going to start taking that. I remember you jumped on Pastor Troy, We Ready. You know what I mean? Slime.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Slime is me. Pastor Troy, I went to North Carolina. I performed with Pastor Troy. He performed 20 minutes, one record, and by no way, shape, or form or fashion was that whack. Man. I'm talking about, we ready. I was like, yo, buddy, I'll pay you to get on your record.
Starting point is 00:41:18 He was like, you know who I am? I was like, yo, I go to your shows all the time. David Banner, I was the first one to work with David Banner. I was the first one. Everybody used to your shows all the time. David Banner. I was the first one to work with David Banner. I was the first one. Everybody used to think the South was corny. Like, I remember OutKast called me to come with them to the tunnel. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Well, Big Boy did. I never had Andre's number. You know what I'm saying? But Big Boy called me to come hang with me at the tunnel. Like, he didn't say he was scared, but he didn't feel comfortable going by himself. I came with him. And I was the dude that hung out in the strip club. Because you got to remember,
Starting point is 00:41:48 back in the days in New York, if you went to a strip club, you was a lame. You was like a sucker. There was really no strip club. There was really no strip club. It was like Scores, like the white, white, white strip clubs. And then it was like the Sopranos by the Bing. The only strip club I think was Suze. No, but Suze even came later. So then, when Ice Cube
Starting point is 00:42:04 came out with Players Club, there was an actual Players Club in Atlanta. And I used to go hang out there, and my New York dudes was like, this ain't really that bad. You know what I mean? You're thinking that this is some corny. And then we started going to strip club, and I started to embrace crooked letters.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I started to embrace a juvenile. Like, I'm the one who came and I went to Angie Martinez and I was like, and people was like, yo, what are you singing? You know what I'm saying? People was like,
Starting point is 00:42:34 yo, what are you singing? Because I didn't know nothing. You thought you didn't know what Future was saying. I didn't know what nothing Jewie was saying, but I knew it was a hit. I was like,
Starting point is 00:42:41 yo, this dude Norrie is on Prozac. You know what I'm saying? And I was embracing, huh. Everybody was like, yo, this dude Norrie is on Prozac. You know what I'm saying? And I was embracing these coaches, and I knew the South would be as powerful as it's going to be, because at the end of the day, New York can't go against the whole coast. You understand what I'm saying? Philly,
Starting point is 00:42:56 D.C., V.A., you still East Coast, my brother, but they claim the South. You know what I'm saying? So, as East Coast, we would all have to show unity in order to compete with them. I'm not saying go against them. I'm just saying just to compete with them. You know what I'm saying? You got to think about how big the South is.
Starting point is 00:43:14 You know what I'm saying? It's weird, though, because you got to interrupt. I remember even back in 2010, I wasn't even working in radio. You hit me up, like, yo, I want you to narrate my album. I'm like, what? Yeah. I mean, like, see, that's why I said, when I said Dame thinks faster than me, because I think fast, but Dame can do five different things at once.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I can't. I can do five different things, but two of them is going to come out great. You know what I'm saying? So you got to embed a team, and you also got to make soldiers into bosses. Like, everybody can't be a boss. That's my man, Dame. I love him. But everybody, if we're all bosses, we'll never roll a blunt.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You know what I'm saying? Because you'll feel like she's supposed to roll a blunt. Or he's supposed to roll a blunt. So we'll sit here. We won't be high. Nobody going to smoke. You know what I'm saying? Nobody going to smoke.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So there is positions and there is places. And that's just really what I want to do. That's what I'm doing with the Good Belt Gang. I want to see this new talent. You know what I'm saying? Like Swiss. Swiss. I had Swiss early. Pause. You know what I'm saying? Like Swiss. Swiss. I had Swiss early.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Pause. You know what I'm saying? That sounded wrong. Damn. As it came out. As it came out. Scott Storch. We worked on a firm album, and Scott Storch was out there.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I seen him was the ghost producer of Dre. You know what I'm saying? So when he left Dre, and he told me, yo, I'm selling this beat for this amount. It was no problem for me doing it because I had the foresight, T-Pain. I knew T-Pain was going to— You just said Dre don't do his own beats, by the way. Who? You just said Dre don't do his own beats.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Well, not in my face. When I was out there doing a firm album at that time, it was Scott and it was Melman. You know what I'm saying? And then one of Dre's managers, I said, yo, how much would it be to get a Dre beat? And they was like, you know, I ain't had no budget back then. They was like, I'll tell you what to do. Just hire Scott and hire Mel, man. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:53 And you'll get the beats or whatever. But, yeah, I had the foresight to see a lot of, you know, people. You said T-Pain. T-Pain. Your air is a great air. That's why I want to be an air. At the end of the day, if me and Kaiser,
Starting point is 00:45:07 listen, Kaiser, if you don't hire the Good Bell Gang, you know, that's the next thing I want to do is I want to learn the music business because it's like being street smart. All right, but now let's be book smart. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:18 So I would love to be behind the desk and learn the industry because at the end of the day, I know radio, but if you ask me, yo, what's the letterheads for Power 105, I won't know. Call letters, right. Call letters.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Call letters. See, I'm there, but I ain't fully there. You know what I'm saying? You have an air that I think, you know, because even with your records, and I always used to tell you that, I just felt like if you wasn't on No Disrespect the Penalty, if you wasn't on Penalty back then, I think you would have been a bigger artist. That's why Def Jam came.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I love my life with DePaul Thomas. That could have been a smash. A lot of those records that you have, even Body in the Trunk back then, everybody loved it, but I just didn't think they took you to that far until you got to nothing. Right. No, nothing, nothing. That's Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So what happened was my favorite CEOs in this business is Leo Combs, Kevin Louse, Julie Greenwald, Todd Moskemis, and Randy Acker, and Rob Love. And I said Mike Kaiser. Yeah. Listen, when those, that chemistry, when they were together, that was my favorite. Like, I was so, they used to come to me, they used to be like, listen, I'm not going to to come to me and they used to be like, listen. I'm not going to tell you who, but they used to be like, listen. Jay and Ja Rule and DMX, they get the $4 million budgets. And they get the $3 million budgets.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And you guys, you don't get that. But we're going to put you on tour for three years. And it's like, I actually learned how to do shows on Def Jam. Like, you can't. Yo, you ever try to perform after Redman? Right. Impossible. This guy is,
Starting point is 00:46:48 you ever try to, you ever try to, like, Redman and Method Man together? Method Man? Yo, Method Man, let me tell you something. Method Man is the,
Starting point is 00:46:58 like, me and Meth was on tour. We was on tour. And Meth kept wanting to bring, he was the host of the tour. So, he kept me this is if i don't start back i said so every he's on the tour with keith merry this is my first argument with method man my first and only argument with method man method man is on the bus with keith
Starting point is 00:47:16 merry right and we going on tour every night and he's hosting so in between acts he's hosting this dude want to do right before i come out. I came to bring the pain You want to boss we keep Mary my do You perform after him before him you can't I can't I'm not do performing at the brain I don't know my dude. You just gotta let that stage calm down You know why meth don't care. He's going to go in the front row. He's going to swipe his sweat and swipe it to the white boy, and the white boy is going to lick it.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh, yeah, I love it. You know what I'm saying? Woo, dang, you can't do. You can't do this. Woo, dang, you can't perform after that. You know what I'm saying? That's my only time me and Mef ever had an argument. I was like, oh, Mef, please.
Starting point is 00:48:03 You cannot do that before me man you're still in the crowd you know i'm saying but that my point of bringing that up is def jam showed you how to do how to do um shows and not only that they made you work your record like jay and ja and d and l when i was on def jam they came out and they fully spent their budget on them immediately boom but me Method Man
Starting point is 00:48:28 Keith Murray Freeway Cam'ron so to speak we were like the B squad but they sent us on tour for the whole year
Starting point is 00:48:39 you know what I'm saying me and Cam did a paid in fall tour for like two three months you and P pulling good? Me ain't pulling it straight. We got an album dropping.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You know what I'm saying? I just want the poem to come out a little bit more. You know what I'm saying? And that's really it. Now, the freestyles that come out every Friday. Yeah, yes, yes. Jadakiss does it. I'm waiting for y'all to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:58 No, we dropping the blend tape. We dropping the blend tape. We going to do something different. We doing a blend tape. Actual blends. Big up to DJ Butch Rock. That's our actual DJ, and we flipped all the old school joints.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I believe we inspired it because we threw out a little bit of love. I don't know if you got that off of the Beat Nuts beat and a chick singing over it. So I'm loving what Fab is doing. You know what I'm saying? I'm loving what Jada is doing.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And New York, we're trying to, I don't want to say bring it back I say we're bringing it forward we're bringing it forward and we gotta support each other more like at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:49:31 the love that I see from New York artists in Miami or not just in Miami just when you're out of town you're a little bit more comfortable if we could start doing that
Starting point is 00:49:39 and supporting each other and get a good even this station wars and you know like you hear you gotta give them the record or you give y'all the record. And it's corny.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Like at the end of the day, we ain't Bloods and Crips, man. You know what I'm saying? Even the Bloods and Crips is together, standing together in Baltimore. And we can't do that in music. You know what I'm saying? Like we're going to die if we don't help each other at some point.
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know what I'm saying? Like it's cool. But if you see an artist, he ain't got a hit record in two years something's wrong or he ain't out there trying something's wrong reach out say what's up you know i'm saying like i call people yo what's up what's going on now we charlamagne always talks about this i say it as well that and once you get older in hip-hop it seems like people they don't want to f with you no more that's messed up that's it's crazy because rolling stones could go on tour and ebony and ivory and all these people like in any genre of music people can continue to tour people can continue to get money e40 is my og you know
Starting point is 00:50:35 what i'm saying but he got this he got the he got look with e4 he got to be real quiet about his age and be real like you don't never hit really him say that and that's not right like ray quarn should be you know what i'm saying should be proud of his age e40 should be proud of his age and be real. Like, you don't never really hear him say that, and that's not right. Like, Raekwon should be, you know what I'm saying, should be proud of his age. E-40 should be proud of his age, and so on and so forth. But there should be a market for that. You know what I'm saying? I remember at one point Def Jam had Def Soul, which meant it was the old goodies.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It was the Aretha Franklins and all that. Like, why hip-hop? Like, Chuck D, like, I ain't gonna front. The other day, I forget who had a, we live in a crazy era you know i'm saying like um i forget i think it was a red man or or or somebody had a party and tahiri had a party right next to him and tahiri's party was packed and it's great because tahiri has a market but you mean to tell me that like where is that market for the older people
Starting point is 00:51:22 who's been out who still got hit records red Redman got a, you see Redman perform, you're going to be there for an hour and a half saying, damn, damn, look how many things he got. And the thing about R, it's not just hip-hop. It's not just hip-hop. When you're the old dude in the hood, they want to kick you out. Like if you shot somebody your whole life and then you become 40, they don't say, he's 40, he's chilling. They say oh he's but because he ain't you ain't shooting and that's that's our
Starting point is 00:51:50 mentality i think they respect you when you still like when you pop in though like when you're successful like they can look at you and be like all right no he's still doing his thing he got chips from back level i think when you're successful they still respect you because nobody looks at diddy and be like you gotta think about it they gotta think pardon me for cutting you off you gotta think about it rick ross is, pardon me for cutting you off. You got to think about it. Rick Ross is older than me. You know what I'm saying? Kanye West is older than me. Pusha is older than me.
Starting point is 00:52:11 But they came out before me. So you could look at it like I'm the old... I mean, after me. After me. So you could look at me like I'm the old... Or you could just look at me like I was getting money longer. You know what I'm saying? I got on longer. But to these average kids, I'm 900 years old. You know what I'm saying? I got on longer. But to these average kids, I'm 900 years old. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Because I came out in 1997. I got a tape. I got a music with tape on it. A cassette. I got an album with vinyl on it. And these kids really, they think vinyl is a clothing accessory. You know what I'm saying? Like, these kids buy vinyl.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And it's like, no, at one point, there was real DJs who actually took, you had to bring your crates to the show, young guy. And they don't understand this. They're looking at me like, oh, yeah, I bought a vinyl. In my laptop. Yeah, I bought a vinyl to look by my laptop. No, I come from the dinosaur stages. But the thing about it, I can still work with Rick Ross.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I can still speak to Lil Wayne. I can still make jokes with 2 Chainz. You know what I'm saying? Because I told 2 Chainz, I'm still work with Rick Ross. I can still speak to Lil Wayne. I can still make jokes with 2 Chainz. You know what I'm saying? Because I told 2 Chainz, I'm going to body him on the record. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Why do they act like we can't get better with age, though? That's what I'm saying. Human beings put value on everything except for us. Cars,
Starting point is 00:53:19 wine, cheese. It's a fact. We're supposed to get better with time. And you know what? But that's why Jay and Nas and not, somebody you know you know what but that's why Jay and Nas
Starting point is 00:53:26 and not somebody said that to me but look Jay and Nas is a great example of that and now it gotta be more of that you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:53:33 now it can't just be just them okay they're the upper echelon that's who made it that's whoever they still looking young they staying in the gym
Starting point is 00:53:40 they juicing they doing whatever they gotta do alright it gotta be others and not just money alright you gotta stay, you gotta stay relevant. You gotta stay relevant. Like, listen, dude, I love Carhartt. Legends are forever
Starting point is 00:53:49 relevant. I love Carhartt. But I know if I walk in right now in Amigo's show with Carhartt on, I'm the corny dude. Or you might make them young kids be like, yo, that's fly. But see, I'm gonna do it to a certain extent. I'm gonna be me to a certain extent. I'm not gonna be me where I offend
Starting point is 00:54:06 the new generation because at the end of the day, when they talk about classic hip-hop and yo, I was around when Big's album first came. I was around when Mobb Deep's album first came. I was around when CNN's album first dropped and Illmatic. It was mixed reviews.
Starting point is 00:54:22 They didn't instantly say that was a classic. Yo, when the War Report came out, I was still selling crack on 97-3057 Avenue. Akineli came up to me, he had put it in your mouth. And Akineli see me make a sale. And Ock jumped out his car,
Starting point is 00:54:37 and he grabbed me, and he said, I want you to pay attention. And he listened to every car that rolled by in the hood. In the hood was playing the war report. I didn't know how to get to the money. Ox said, he said, how much crack you had on you? I had a $500
Starting point is 00:54:53 pack. He said, give me $500 and said, give me the crack. Took it and threw it away. Did you see him throw it away? Yeah, no, no. He threw it away. It's a fact. I flipped on him. I'm like, yo, why'd you throw it away. It's a fact. I flipped on him. I'm like, yo, why'd you throw it away? He said, I paid for it. What'd you care about?
Starting point is 00:55:08 And he brought me on tour. That's dope. After that. You know what I'm saying? He brought me on tour after that and taught that. See, these young kids right now, they just, you could get hot and there's no respect. There's no artist development. That's why you have so many one hit wonders.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Right. But you know what too? But like you said, there's nobody teaching them. Like you said, Al Canelli was- That's what I want to be one-hit wonders right, but you know what too, but like you said there's nobody teaching them Like that's something that we would ask like, you know, that's what I want to be. I want to be artist development But yeah, but um, so um, like I said, man, you know, we still promoting the good ball game city boy D Sign a gram tweeze money Ming coca young really the dawn. You know I'm saying um, my man chink Bing just came home after 10 years. He's standing you home home, my brother. You can unfold your arms. Come on, my brother. You know what I'm saying? He got that fresh look, too. Yeah, he got that fresh look.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put him on the phone with you when he was in jail. He was over. He said, be in your hospital. Yeah, yeah. This is going down, baby. Come home, baby.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You know what I'm saying? Pick up my man, Sick. And like I said, I just really want to be an executive. I really want to bug out. I would like to do a reality show, but something that make our culture proud. No, we're going to make that happen. Make our culture proud instead of making our... Give or take some Monday nights, I'll be
Starting point is 00:56:09 sitting there like, Diablo B, it's a little crazy. It's a little crazy for me. It's a little crazy for my taste. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's what... It's got to be a show to cater to respectful people.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You know what I'm saying? And make sense for you. And make sense for me because I ain't going to lie. I couldn't do no reality show with any woman threatening my wife. Right. Oh, forget it. I love my wife. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:35 I'll tell you one thing, Nori. Every time you come in, you're here over 60 minutes. It never feels like it. It never feels like it. I'm sorry. It's an annual thing, though. I'm sorry. It never feels like it.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Nori used to came late this year. Listen, I did. And never feels like it. I'm sorry. It's an annual thing, though. It never feels like it. Nori used to came late to shit. I did, and I did come early. Listen, I came late as far as being actual here, but I was... Sasha, I was here early, right? She said you was out here smoking a cigarette. I wasn't smoking a cigarette. I forgot to... Give us the vapor. Look, oh my God. Thank you. Thank you for thinking
Starting point is 00:56:59 it was a cigarette. It was chronic. But thank you for thinking it was a cigarette. This is my new venture. I'm always hustling. I got, it's Nori shorts. So, I mean, I know you don't smoke,
Starting point is 00:57:10 but it's like a hookah just in case you want to smoke a hookah. Yeah, I smoke a little bit. Okay, so look, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:15 we got y'all. You know what I mean? But listen, man, thank y'all for having me. Always. The Nori shorts. We got the blend tape
Starting point is 00:57:21 coming out May 9th and then CNN album dropping the 16th after, I don't know, June. And then I'm dropping the Rick Ross, Todd Dollar Sign, DJ Mustard record, and the whole good belt. And we also got a Sonogram record featuring Fat Trell, keeping it in the D.C. Because Sonogram is from D.C. and Fat Trell. No, Sonogram is from Baltimore, excuse me, and Fatny Graham is from Baltimore excuse me and Fat Terrell is from DC so we got that whole thing going got my boy Tweez
Starting point is 00:57:47 dropping Mouse Defeat and we're going to just have fun this summer word Nori Easter came late but it was worth it that's right absolutely and we appreciate you joining us
Starting point is 00:57:56 as always thank you very much and I appreciate my calls every once in a while Nori will text me in the morning yes I will I do but see I try not to text you
Starting point is 00:58:03 while you're on the air because I am a fan of the show I really wake up and listen to this show Nori used, text me in the morning. Yes, I will. I do. But I try not to text you while you're on the air because I am a fan of the show. I really wake up and listen to this show. Noria used to text me. You don't text me no more because we're not in no challenge together no more. Oh, that's a fact. You know why? You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:58:15 I went to a—I was in a party with Hov, right? And somebody asked Hov for his number, and he curved him so crazy. I cannot ask a famous person for their number no more. Like, I seen somebody come up to Hov and was just like, and Hov was like, we not going to do that, playboy. The dude pulled out his number, and he said, his phone, and he was like, we not going to do that, playboy. Because if I pull out my phone, I got to give it to everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And everybody was like, we're not going to do that, Playboy. Wow. If I pull out my phone, I got to give it to everybody. And everybody was like, this is my own. Oop. And since then, I can't ask an industry dude. I'm like, hey, what's up? Who was the person that asked for it? I ain't getting that. My dude. Like I said, Norris the OG.
Starting point is 00:58:58 He'll call me if it's a good interview. He'll tell me if it's a bad interview. He'll tell me no matter what it is. He's the OG. He's the one that can say whatever he wants to you, and you don't get offended. Right. I watch all y'all interviews, offended right I watch all y'all interviews y'all doing a great job
Starting point is 00:59:07 I've seen it from the beginning till now saying that you did a great job Scarface was probably the most hilarious one when he kept getting up he kept doing this
Starting point is 00:59:14 I said yo that's the real Scarface like that's like he's really he's really that funny bro look at Jamie Foxx yo what's up with Will Smith Jamie Foxx got a wall
Starting point is 00:59:24 full of hairlines. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But yo, once again, man, it's The Breakfast Club. Your boy NRE. Hit us up. It's going down. It's the breakfast club. I always this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory.
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