The Breakfast Club - One Fist In The Air (Get It Off Your Chest, Topic for Fathers, Joy Ann Reid and Tiffany Cross)

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

Happy Juneteenth! As many get together for barbeques or just a day of rest, we flash back to some hilarious "Get it Off Your Chest" calls as well as a new interview with Joy Ann Reid and Tiffany Cross, who spoke on sisterhood, women in media, their new show "The Culture Is..." and more. Also, we flashed back to a topic about Fathers. Tune into part of the podcast that feature Donkey of the Day and another great interview by the breakfast club.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts

that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get real and dive straight into todo lo actual y viral. We're talking música, los premios, el chisme, and all things trending in my cultura. I'm bringing you all the latest happening in our entertainment world and some fun and impactful interviews with your favorite Latin artists, comedians, actors, and influencers. Each week, we get deep and raw life stories, combos on the issues that matter to us, and it's all packed with gems, fun,

straight-up comedia, and a sazón that only nuestra gente can sprinkle. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 50% righteousness. Yo, Angel Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hell yeah, I'm getting up. The world's most dangerous morning show. DJ Effie. Your people's choice. Angela Yee. I'm a sweetheart, but I'll cut you. Charlamagne Tha God. Prince of pissing people off.

I can't believe you guys are the best, kid. Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm dialing. I'm dialing. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm dialing. I'm calling. I'm calling, yo. This is your time to get it off your chest.

Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Cesar. Hey, what's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Hey, Cesar.

I meant to use an anonymous name. Hey, everybody. Too late. Oh, my goodness. Charlamagne. Peace, peace. Do you want to change your name now? Yeah, man.

I just need to get off my chest real quick. I'm sorry for cutting you off, E, because I don't like when Charlamagne and Envy do that to you. But, yeah, let me get off my chest. I don't like when people be trying to take other people back and still hold like a grudge against it, you know? Like, for example, if a dude cheats on a girl, and he like, I forgive you, I take you back, but like,

once, a week, years down the road, you still like throwing it back in my face? That's like, come on now. So this just happened, this just happened to you, Cesar? Uh, I mean, yeah, but this is like, this is like some long ago type stuff, Cesar? I mean, yeah. But this is like some long-ago type stuff. But I'm talking about even nowadays.

I see my partners go through it. Vice versa. I see females go through it with guys. It's like, hey, don't take them back. If you're not going to 100% forgive them. Well, I will say this. Sometimes things trigger you. So you might have forgiven somebody, but that doesn't mean that you completely forget it.

And so there might be certain times when you fall back into some old habits. It takes a long time to build up that trust. So it's an effort on both people's parts, though. I do agree. You can't just keep on beating somebody up after you said, let's work on it. But every now and then, you know, you don't intend for it to happen, you get a little mad you're right you're right you're right we are you and we all get trying to you know live our best lives out here i feel you well thank you bro good luck man hello who's this yo it's ron from cincinnati ron what's up man you want to holla at charla yeah hey first of all

man i just want to give you your roses now uh you know for the work that you do with mental health like i mean you do a great job man with not just the awareness piece but also you know trying to implement a way for people to really you know to heal and to deal with the mental health right thank you king um man it's all good i sent it i sent some t-shirts to you guys too man so i created some depression teachers andshirts that said that I make f*** up look good. You guys get it? No, I didn't see that. You make what look good? I make f*** up look good. So that's what the t-shirts say.

They're depression t-shirts, right? Okay. You know, for people, man, that are struggling, you know, depression and different, you know, scenarios, right? And basically it's saying that, listen, you don't see what's going on inside because, like, you know, a lot of mental health issues, it's not like a cold when you see the symptoms, you know what I'm saying? So people don't see the symptoms of PTSD and other issues. So basically, you know, what I tell people here in Cincinnati is, man, listen, go get

your hair done, get your nails done, guys, go get your, you know, your beard shaved and put your outfit on and make your look good. All right, bro. Okay. Yes, sir. Well, thank you, man. You have a good day, man. Have a good morning. All right, bro. All righty, man. Well, thank you, man. You have a good day, man. Have a good morning.

All right, bro. All right, man. Hello, who's this? This is Tempe. Hey, good morning, mama. Get it off your chest. Oh, my God. I'm so excited.

Good morning, y'all. It's my birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. Later on, my mom's going to come get me.

We can go to the spa and stuff. I'm so excited. Oh, that is really nice going to come get me. We can go to the spa and stuff. Oh, that is really nice. I like that. A spa day with your mama. Yeah, enjoy your day, mama. Thank you. I have a question for Charlamagne, though. Yes, ma'am.

Charlamagne, I've been buying all these books, right, because you recommended them. But the only book I don't have is yours. Is there any way I can get it for a birthday kiss? Which one? I got you. Which one do you want? See, both. The first one.

I want to start with the first one. You want Black Privilege? All right, I got you. Which one you want? Say both. The first one. I want to start with the first one. You want black privilege? All right, I got you. I'm going to put you on hold and get your address. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. Y'all have a blessed one.

Yes, ma'am. Happy birthday. Hold on one second. Thank you again. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic

happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire? Join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God.

What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.

That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect Black and brown people,

but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a Black show for non-Black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered.

There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Teresa. Hello, who's this?

Hey, this is Teresa. I'm calling from Washington Heights. I'm a teacher. Good morning, Teresa. I wanted to just shout out all the women that I work with, all the teachers. You know, we all work really hard. We all got master's degrees, and we're working hard to educate the kids. And I wanted to just shout you all out at PS48.

One of the most important jobs that we have here. So we appreciate you. Shout out to all the women at what school you said? PS48 in Washington Heights. PS48 in Washington Heights. You know, for a little while I taught in Washington Heights. I wanted to be a teacher. Oh, amazing.

One of the most important jobs, and y'all don't get paid like it. My mom's a schoolteacher. She's been a schoolteacher for 30 plus years. I think she said she ever made was $30,000 a year. And, you know, with all our education, if we weren't anything else, we'd be making a lot more. But we do it for the education. Yeah, and not just education, the fact that we trust y'all with our churn. All right.

For hours and hours a day. Well, we love you and we appreciate you. P.S. 48 in Washington Heights. Hello. Hello, good morning. Good morning. How you doing? Bless black and highly favored, brother.

How are you? All right, brother. My name is Narvel Starworth. I live in Jacksonville, Florida. Okay. I started a foundation for men's domestic violence. We had a situation with our daughter, so I'm blessing all women. I'm trying to spread the word.

The name of the foundation is A underscore Chianti Foundation. C-H-I-A-T-I-N-T-I Foundation. And I'm just trying to spread the word, trying to spread the love to help and save other women around. So that's all I'm doing, fighting men for women. I'm a minority man, a feminine man of 26 years, and I'm just trying to help women. I respect it.

Why do you call yourself a minority man? Well, I just don't... I don't know. I mean... Are you black? Yes, yes, I am. Who said you black? What do you mean minority man?

What kind of minority man? Jesus Christ. Yes, I'm a 53-year-old black man fighting for women's rights. Yes, sir, that's what I'm doing. Well, salute to you, brother. We love that, and we'd love to hear it. So your charity is helping women who have experienced domestic violence, and it's too high of a proportion of women that have had that experience.

So we appreciate and applaud the work that you're doing. And we need more men to care about that, too. Always. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Curb in out of Houston. What up, brother? What's going on? Good morning, Angela Yee.

Good morning. How are you? I'm doing fine. Good morning, DJ Izzy. Morning, brother. Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God. Peace, King. How morning. How are you? I'm doing fine. Good morning DJ Envy. Morning, brother. Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God. Peace, King. How you doing, black man? I'm doing all right. I'm coming to celebrate my

beautiful black queen. All right, shout her out. What's her name? I want to celebrate Isis Keller. I'm right here out of Houston, Texas, my beautiful black queen. You know, we're going to celebrate 10 years in July, and i just want to celebrate her and thank her for making me the happiest man alive yes i love to hear it the

happiest man alive okay thank you brother thank you get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent hit us up now it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series the running interview The Breakfast Club. Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.

So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.

Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies.

Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday. With myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. The legendary comedian Earthquake. Welcome, brother. Well, thank you. It's an honor, man. I've been looking forward to this day for a long time to be on this show, man. And it's an honor and a privilege to be here. How you feeling this morning, brother? I'm blessed, man, to be quite honest with you. I'm very blessed, man, and things are good. Things are good.

You look like it. The money look right. Well, you know, it finally got through a 30-year overnight sensation took this while for everybody else to see what I've been doing for 30 years but you know it came through how have you stayed so relevant in this 30 years most comedians a lot of people don't have a long career but your career keeps going and you keep reinventing yourself well the truth of the matter is, you know, when you have a talent such as mine, persistence, you know what I mean? And you're dealing with a thing that's subjective, you know,

what's funny to one person, I'll be funny to the other. And then on top of that, to be honest with you, when you cater to our people, I'm not a mainstream comedian such as, like, I lived here in New York. I didn't do the clubs that here. I always did like our clubs, the night clubs where a lot of people are entertaining

them and it takes a long time to get to that point and to be quite honest with you the 30 years none of the people who my consumers and people see own TV shows or networks to give me the necessary breaks to what was needed. Well, that's changed now.

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. We're raising the pulse. Oh, man, it's in there. It's sweet over here now. I ain't lying to you, y'all. Man, it's lit. You got the sitcom coming?

Yes, I got the sitcom. I'm doing my tour, my first tour that actually is mine with one of y'all friends here. Donnell. Donnell Rollins. We're doing 20 city tours on that. I did my first lead in the movie with Donnell. So we did that together.

Life is good. Oh, yeah, man. Getting a lot of texts. Hey, big head. You know what I'm saying? You know, I saw Dave Chappelle performing in Atlanta over the weekend, and one of the things he was talking about was your special, and he was saying,

this is the first time I'm producing a special that I'm not in. So what was that like for you guys to even come together to decide to do that? Well, you know, I've been known Dave for over 25, 30 years. I mean, I own my own club in Atlanta, and we booked him, and I seen how much money we was paying them I'm like what the hell was this much so how long ago is this oh this was 93 94 oh yeah just see Dave has always been the LeBron James of our profession baby Jesus he always had it the mainstream of a you know loved him to death you know

and so when we booked him i'm like who is this kid we paying all this money to so i went to pick him up and we started kicking and then when he stepped on stage and i heard his first joke i said i see why they pay him that kind of money this is interesting though because a lot of people say they didn't feel like dave came up through the black circuit back in the day well he didn't but my club was more or less, I put comedians on that was comedians on, though it was an urban club. It was white. It was, I took comedians that was funny and introduced all type of comedians to our,

you know, our crowd and the rest of it. And he didn't do many black clubs, but he did mine. You know what I mean? So it was a blessing on that part. Yeah, it wasn't until like the Chappelle show when black people got on. Exactly. And no, I mean, no fault to him. Like I said, it's two different ways to get it.

Most of the ones that really get it, like Dave, come through the main clubs. You know, and people such as me and the Bruce Bruce, the Arnaz, the rest of them that cater to our people. It takes us a little longer to get known from the other side the other side so you know whichever way you want to get it down the other misconception is that comedians are broke because they don't see y'all which all in these clubs every weekend one of the strangest things to me recently is watching you know Kanye fans go at DL and they're like you irrelevant you broke I'm like yeah probablyL probably richer than all of y'all. I know he

richer than all of y'all. I know he is. I mean, all you gotta do is do the math. Club hosts 350 people. Charge $40. You ask for 90% of the door. And you do eight shows. A weekend.

You know what I mean? I was pulling $3 million a year, you know, and didn't even nobody know who I was other than the people that knew who I was. So I had already exceeded my expectations for my life. You understand what I'm saying? Does the IRS know about that number? Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, they know.

You know what they knew before? They came in when my ex-wife snitched on me. She said, he does not pay his taxes. I said, oh, no, they knew before they came in when my ex-wife snitched on me. She said, he does not pay his taxes. I said, oh, Lord. Yeah, man, first day of trial. I want to put something on the record. He does not pay his taxes. How long was you with her?

Oh, man, I was with her for three years. It took nine years to get a divorce. Damn. I said, I could have killed her and been out on probation by now. This is ridiculous. I said, this is ridiculous. But that was the first day of trial. She turned me in.

Best thing that ever happened, made me turn myself in. How much did you owe? I had to actually go and say, okay, this is what it was. No, you go and you get your tax lawyer and say, listen here, man. How much did you have to pay? I owed close to $4 million. But no, everybody against Trump. But when he, Trump,

passed that tax bill and they gave that forgiveness, I got forgave. I got forgave. I ran down there with that check and here you go. I ain't gonna tell you how much it was, but it was nowhere near $4 million. Thank God.

Oh, thank God. Oh, man. I'm just telling you, I was sitting there, here you go. It was the first day. It took me like 15 years between me and Uncle Sam with his molesting self, because he played with you anytime he wanted to. Oh, it's ridiculous. And this year, when I'm paying the tax, I didn't even understand.

I said, I couldn't have made this much money doing a pandemic. Now, yeah, you did. I'm like, damn. Boy. So, yeah, it was hard. Handling business. Oh, yeah. You know, the more you make, the more they take.

All right, we got more with Earthquake. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.

After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.

Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,

learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on

the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more

empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.

There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, The situation is desperate. and she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

We're still kicking it with comedian Earthquake. His special Legendary is on Netflix right now. Now, we got to ask you, what were your thoughts on the Will Smith, Chris Rock slap? Are you scared to go on stage now? No. Do you have any trauma, Earthquake? No. Are you sure?

I'm perfectly sure. Personally speaking, I feel sorry for Will because, you know, he's being beaten, abused by Jada. That's what happens when a man is in love with a woman that doesn't love him. And he's doing everything to try to make sure that try to win her love. And I've been there before. You have to make a decision. You've accepted for the love she getting in and just accept that, or just leave it alone. But you will never, ever win her over, because you can't make a heart feel what it don't, and she don't. And her actions that night showed it.

And I feel for him, and I guess he feels that. Huh? What do you mean, the actions that night? I mean, even if he felt that he disrespected her, she knows her man, and she saw he was about to go up here. A woman that loves you will stop you. And then, you know, we do radio. We know the rules of FCC.

He was at the Oscars, and Will doesn't even cuss, and he's out here using profanity on a live broadcast. He knows Hollywood. He knows the rules. She didn't try to stop him on two occasions. And then lastly, man, she has yet to release the statement and say, hey, man, my

man is a good man. He lost his cool. It's not indicative of who he is. He got over three decades of good work towards the people. He never had that. He lost his cool. Nothing. No. She left a statement. I'm in to a, I can't quote her, but it's a time of healing I'm here I wonder I wonder though I got I like the fact they haven't released a statement other than to just hold

themselves accountable like you know yeah he hasn't he hasn't deflected at all like that's what I mean she hasn't she a protection your man well she should protect her man. The reason what he did was in protecting her. And your woman will come out and vouch for you that that's not you. That is not him. It's just a natural, in my humble opinion, a natural reaction for a woman who sees the significance of what he did

and what it's going to cost them. If he was doing it for you, they probably decided not to say anything until they probably release a joint statement together or an interview together. Something. Yeah. But this at some point, man, you can't look was politically correct.

You got the circle of wagons to say, this is my man. This is what I care about. He's not like this. He lost it that day. He's human. And please don't let this night, you know, define who he is as a person. Like, how do we know they not maybe like I said, maybe they just sitting back like, you know what? We'll speak when we ready. Like, why do they have to speak now? Like, what's the point? Who are they doing that for?'t you doing it for your husband because your husband is taking it to the face right now he's losing project he's there they

holding up on projects he's he's he has made a egregious area on things that he is patting his whole life to not see i remember when will was taking shots for not being the community by not being a rapper who cussed and who was looked as corny and the rest of it and he dealt with all that without being hammering going with bump to the bumps and James he didn't know he he didn't succumb to the pressure on the outside this is will get jiggy with parents't understand. Cussing on national television at the Oscars. The place that he felt that he was going to be the trophy for the

best actor. I mean, he covered, he came from a rapper to a movie star to a television star and then got recognized as his highest level. Yeah. Yeah, not justifying what he did, because what he did was wrong,

but clearly that shows you something was wrong. Yeah. Something was off. Yeah. Listen, man, we all seen them dudes that you better not say nothing to that woman. That woman can't even hold him back when he gone. He jealous over his woman, this McMahon. I used to say this all the time.

I say, man, that woman, I take pictures with women all the time, man. And you could look at the dudes that you could just see. He'll kill everybody in here for her. And I just own them. I'm like, listen, I'm just hugging her right now. Because I don't have enough bullets to stop you from coming. Because I see the love in your eyes. You will kill everybody

in here for her. So let me put my hand down while you click that picture with me. You see him. She knows him. She known for my man. He would,

there's women out here known for my man. My man will kill you over me. I have to control him. Well, the main thing I think is Chris Rock also. You know, because I think it's a shame that he was up there, he was like kind of

flustered after that and I felt like nobody protected Chris Rock when that happened because they were able to sit back in the seat and just watch the rest of the show, go out and party, but that has to be devastating for that to happen. His kids seeing it, family seeing it, you know. Of course. That is the main thing. Like now what happens, that should never have been okay. devastating for that to happen his kids seeing it family seeing it you know of course that is

the main thing like now what happens that should never have been okay yeah the show go on well will knew who he could slap where he could slap you got you can also in my humble opinion he knew who was running the production he knew it was Will Packard and certain people he felt that he can get away with. You knew that when he assaulted Chris and then turned his back and walked off. There's no one else. Everybody knows Chris is not that kind of, we call him Switzerland

because Chris don't want no problems, man. Earthquake ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for having me. It's an honor, man. Been wanting to be on your show for a long time, not as a colleague, but as an artist

because y'all, you know, you mean a lot to people's career because y'all are second. You could have been up here. Yeah, you could have came up here any time. Yeah, man. I was waiting.

I mean, I was waiting for the invitation and it's been an honor, man. And tickets on sale right now for the legendary tour featuring Donnell Rollins starring Earthquake and Please. And it's been an honor, man. And tickets on sale right now for the legendary tour featuring Donnelly Rollins starring Earthquake and Please. And it's an honor and a privilege to be up here with you, brothers. And sisters.

Angela. Thank you. Well, it's Earthquake. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Take control of a safer home with KIDA's new smoke and carbon monoxide alarm

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It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about a gentleman that caught earlier, had an incident with his dad at a club. Let's listen. We just celebrated my daddy's 50th birthday this Friday, right? So me and my boys took him out to the club and uh you know we drunk we get a few drinks in and man and my homeboy end up tapping me hard

i'm thinking something's gonna jump off he's like look over there my daddy in there telling man down man what i'm in disbelief because i'm like ain't no way this this this my daddy you know the next morning man i know he know i sleep he's doing it because he ain't no way. This is my daddy. You know, the next morning, man, I know he know I sleepy doing it because he ain't said nothing the whole morning. So I'm like, man, man. Basically, tell my mom I've been married down there 25 years. I don't want to go and blow it up. What am I supposed to do, man?

So we're asking 805-85-1051, what would you do? All right. Now we got our resident family on the line. Trav, what up, Trav? Hey, yeah. What's up? Trav. What's up, Yee?

Hey, boo. So, there's only one solution I have, yo. Basically, the mama and the son got to jump the daddy, yo. What are you talking about, Trav? The mama and the son got to jump the daddy because he was cheating. Let me ask you a question, Trav. Did Nate and his mama jump cow?

What do you say, mom? I'm on the phone with the brother. Oh, my mama right here. Mom, what would you do, mom? If I came home and told you I'm on the phone with the brother. Hi. Say hi.

Hi. Hey, mom. Hey, mama, Trav. Hey, ma. Hi, how you doing? What would you do if I came home and told you I was in the club with dad

and he was tongue-in-the-dial and I'm a whole nother man? That's what you get it from, boy. That's what you get it from, boy. How you doing? What would you do if I came home and told you I was in the club with Dad and he was talking down a whole other man? Talk to another man? She would say, that's where you get it from, boy. That's where you get it from, boy. You're just like your daddy. I knew that already. How would you feel about that?

How would I feel about that? Yeah. He'd be gone. He'd be gone, she said. Goodness gracious. I definitely think that at the end of the day, it's still cheating. Alright. Who said it's not? Thank you, Trav.

Who said it's not cheating? Hello, who's this? Good morning, this is Darren. Darren, good morning. What you doing if that situation happened to you, Darren? Yeah, I'm snitching. I'm telling Ma that I gotta go. Because now it's about her safety. I can't go down. Gotta protect Ma. Alright. Thank you so much. Hello, who's about her safety. That can't go down. It's gotta protect mom.

All right. Thank you so much. Hello, who's this? The Jungle Jim. Jungle Jim. You got it, brother. All right, Jungle. How you doing today? I'm doing well.

How you doing? I'm good. I'm good, man. So what should this gentleman do, bro? I think the gentleman shouldn't call into the radio, first of all, to be talking about something like that. That's really personal. And I also think that y'all shouldn't promote that stuff on the radio, first of all, to be talking about something like that that's really personal. And I also think that y'all shouldn't promote that stuff on the radio.

Promote what stuff? This is something that happened. Infidelity? I agree. We shouldn't promote infidelity on the radio. I've been listening to Charlamagne Tha God, and he's been speaking on gay stuff a lot, man. You know what that does, man? That plants seeds, bro.

What? You know what I'm saying? You know what that does, man? That plants seeds, bro. What? You know what I'm saying? And if you familiar how the world works. I thought we was talking about infidelity. Man, you talking about the, I thought you was talking about the daddy that was going to the club with the son that was being gay or something like that, right?

You think discussing things about people who are gay plants seeds? I do. The bigger issue in this situation is that the daddy's cheating on the mama, sir. That's the big issue. The mama with a man, though, right? That's the second issue, to me. It's real life.

That really happened, though. That really wasn't made up. It really happened. A gentleman called. You say, we don't know his name. We don't know where he's from. But you also know there's gay people in this world for real. Should we ignore gay people? No, we shouldn't ignore the problem. That's what we shouldn't ignore.

What's the problem? What's the problem? Cheating is the problem. No, cheating ain't never been a problem, man. Cheating is not a problem? Okay, you're just all backwards. You n***a! Let me explain.

Oh, my gosh. N***a go, n***a. Okay, cheating. Charlamagne Scott, let me gosh. Nick, go, Nick. Okay, cheating. Charlamagne, let me get your position, man, please. All right. Let me have your position because I will really speak about something that needs to be spoken about, and I know y'all probably wouldn't want me to speak about it. Go ahead.

What you got to say? Okay, let me say about the cheating situation, okay? Cheating was something that was brought upon you. Now, if you did something that brought back on you from karma, then it comes back around to you. So it's your fault if you get cheated on. Cash, your question. How would you feel if your mom,

how would you feel if your girl cheated on you? I wouldn't feel no kind of way, because it must have been something I did in order to make her go do that. Is that called victim blaming when someone gets cheated on? You're saying it's their own fault that they got cheated on. So you would stay with her? Exactly, and that's not playing the victim. That's not playing the victim. What?

But you'd stay with her if she cheated on you? That's being aware of something that you've done. So what you got to understand for every act... I respect that. No, he's absolutely right. But would you stay with your woman if she cheated on you? Would you stay with her? Yeah, I'd stay with her.

I have. I'd stay with her. Okay, just asking. Okay, so if you cheated on your girl, that's her fault. If I cheated on my girl, it must have been something that she did in her previous relationship. Right, so it's her fault.

Have you ever had a situation to where a girl, where you meet a person cheating, and you end up losing them the same way? What? Have you ever had that happen before? I know you heard a friend. I understand what you're saying. I totally understand what you're saying, brother. I totally get what you're saying.

When you go into relationships like that, okay, you think that you got away with something. You might have been cheating on the man in the last relationship. You feel what I'm saying? And now in this relationship. Yes, I totally get it. You know, everybody doesn't cheat. Sometimes people get cheated on and they haven't ever cheated. No, that's not the case.

But see, you got to understand the way the world works. You can't be ignorant about how the world works, man. And what you're saying, you're saying it goes both ways. So let's say your girl cheated on you. It's because of something that you were lacking or something that you did that you weren't giving her. No, it's something that I did previously that came back on me. All right. Maybe.

Let me ask you this question. Do you understand what karma is? Yes, but I don't believe karma is cause and effect. I believe karma is created through actions. It's created through actions. You're positively correct. That is correct. It is made through actions.

So for every action, there's a reaction. Is that correct? Can we agree with that? Equal or opposite. Yes, equal or opposite. I agree with that. Okay, now what we're speaking on is karma right now, young man. You see what I'm saying? No. So now it don't matter what happens. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to give you

Charlamagne's number. Hold on. Man, stop saying that. But no, I see what he's saying. What he's saying makes perfect sense. He's not putting the blame on anybody. He, stop saying that. But no, I see what he's saying. What he's saying makes perfect sense. Like, he's not putting the blame on anybody. He's just saying that, you know, if he got cheated on in a previous relationship, it's probably because he cheated on somebody in a relationship previously. Y'all do know he started the conversation that you're pushing the narrative of Gators. You know, that's what he started with.

Well, I ignore that. I don't give that any energy. Oh, okay. All right. Well, what's the moral of the story? I forgot what we were. Well, I ignore that. I don't give that any energy. Oh, okay. All right. Well, what's the moral of the story? I forgot what we were talking about, by the way. The moral of the story is

cheating is wrong. And everybody should be allowed to live their truth. And if you're in a situation where you're not able to live your truth, then maybe you need to get up out of that situation

and stop having everybody live a lie with you. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous

morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy had to step out, but we got two very special guests. Miss Joanne Reed and Tiffany Cross are here. Good morning. Good morning. Happy Friday. How y'all feeling? Excellent. Glad to be here, brother.

Happy to see y'all. Always good to see you. You have The Culture is Black Women. Comes on Sunday at 10 p.m. Eastern on MSNBC. Screaming on Peacock TV. What is that about? Well, the title says it all. As you know, even though black women represent such a small sect of society,

where we go, everybody else will follow and so we drive so much about the culture and so this whole concept kind of came to be because joy and i i went on vacation with our group of friends our common friends uh so it was me angela rye jamelle hill carrie champion i always leave out people britney pik Cunningham Erin Haynes Sunny Huston Latasha Brown Can't Stop Won't Stop Latasha and we just had the most amazing time we really did and we sat around

and luxuriated and loved on each other and talked and shared and from that when we came back and posted pictures so many people were like oh what organization is this and how do I sign up to go on the next trip and it was like oh this is our girls our little girl trip and we thought how can we expand this conversation um how can we invite more women to this table and so Joy and I came up with this concept of inviting women in a way that would be on television

a digital presence so people can feel they were part of the conversation. So we knew we wanted to do this, but I really didn't know how it was going to look. And that's where the amazing Miss Joy came in and had our own vision for it. Well, so basically when Tiffany came back and told me the idea, I was like, you know, the perfect way to do this is to kind of recapture the energy that we had in Cabo. And so let's do a dinner. I was like, we'll throw a dinner. We'll have people who come from all different walks of life, people who are in sports, people who are sportscasters, people who are actresses, politicians. We'll like, we'll throw a dinner. We'll have people who come from all different walks of life, people who are in sports, people who are in sportscasters,

people who are actresses, politicians, we'll just put them all together, military, and everybody will be at the table. And then we figured

if we're going to do it in New York, you got to do it in Harlem, of course, because that's the base. And listen, I took my husband there for a birthday dinner

years ago, and I just love the fact that it's got that speakeasy vibe. It's got that Harlem Renaissance vibe. It's's like it's the perfect place to do something like this and the food is great well see we did cheat a little bit because I'm friends with Melba Wilson okay yeah so we invaded Minton's we literally brought Melba's into Minton's so it was like a merger so we had the Minton's vibe and we had the little jazz vibe we had the food from Miss Melba

oh that's beautiful how important is that sisterhood that y'all talking about? Like all of y'all being together, loving on each other, how important is that? It got us through the pandemic. I mean, it really started as, right, this was like our pandemic support group because, you know, we're all in media. We all take a lot of the same hits.

We all have a lot of the same haters. But we, you know, but we knew each other and I think for all of us, we knew each other in different ways for different lengths of time. Like each of us had had different kinds of relationships. Some of us, you know, I had booked some of these ladies

on my show, but I didn't know them all that well personally. I've known Tiffany. I've known Angela for a really long time, but I didn't know some people. Some people I was fascinated with. I was like, I really want to know Latasha Brown more, but I just knew her as a guest. And so it was, we had gotten together because we were like talking our way through the pandemic and through all the stresses of just being black women in this business and so we were kind of supporting each other as a text group and then it was Tiffany's I think was your idea where you were like we need to make this a vacation we need to all go somewhere together and that's how it but I just want to add the importance about sisterhood, too,

because, you know, there's sometimes there are images of black women in media where they're not supportive of each other and it's not a sisterhood. And that's just not been

our experience. And I always tell, particularly younger black women, root for everybody. Root for everybody black, but root for everybody because you never know where life is going

to take you and when you you know get into situations you want everybody around you to do something dope I want everybody around me to be at the top of their craft because if I get into some sugar honey iced tea I want to look to my left and my right and everybody around me is in a position where they can hire me if they need to

or they can save me if they need to and when you are bickering and you know know, involved in that, you know, petty stuff, or if you think there's only room for one or you have sharp elbows, you're really hurting and damaging yourself. But also just be a good person. It never feels good to feel like you're all alone. Right. And you know what else is important?

I was thinking about even here at iHeart, right, having our executive vice president of programming, Thea Mitchum, as a black woman to be here because I'd never had somebody that could really go to bat for you in the workspace like that. Right. And at MSNBC, you guys also have Rashida Jones. And she's the first black woman to head a news outlet like MSNBC. So how has that been in that experience? Has that changed things for you?

Did it make it easier to get certain things done? Oh, for this, it made it easy because when we walked in to do the pitch, she got it immediately. Like we didn't have to explain it. It didn't take like an hour to pitch this. She really understood it organically because she's living it too. And of course, for her, that's a lonely space as well. I mean, there are MSNBC actually does a little bit better than most that there are black executives or black women executives. I've worked for a black one most of the time that I've worked at MSNBC, even before Rashida, one of her, you know, great colleagues and mentors was my boss. So I think she had had some of the experience of having that support. But when, you know, Tiffany,

you know, wrote the original pitch, I have to give Tiffany all the credit for it. We walked in there and originally we were trying to say it was going to be called Sis. And she was like, and so, you know, when women come in and we're like black women say Sis, she goes, no, I don't, I got it. You don't need to explain it to me. I understand. Now, this also is a series, though, right? So the first one is black women, but then you guys are also focusing on Latina women, AAPI, and indigenous women. Is that correct?

Absolutely, yeah. And this was like, the idea is that, you know, black women, I think, shape the culture in such a profound way. But in each of these other groups, they also have their own cultural identity that have shaped the country in their own way. And so we wanted them to have their own table. And the idea and this is really, you know, I'm giving Tiffany so much credit here because she really is the, you know, she's the originator of this plan. And the person who really birthed it, I was like the godmother, you know, and all the creativity. So it really was. I mean, it was a marriage in many ways joy is married but she was a marriage in many ways because um you know we had a vision for how we wanted this to look and when black women gather it's different than when latinas gather different

when indigenous women gather different when api women gather and so you know my whole career I have always had the fred hampton approach you know like let's build coalitions let's reach across the aisle and when I organize in these communities I respect it enough to know that I'm a guest of I have always had the Fred Hampton approach, you know, like let's build coalitions. Let's reach across the aisle. And when I organize in these communities, I respect it enough to know that I'm a guest of this culture. I'm not a member of it. Like you all deserve your space to have that conversation. And we really wanted other women who really are the keepers of the culture to have their own space to have this conversation. And like with so many other things, when black women create something, all these movements are modeled after what we create.

So when we created this, I knew that we would want to bring other people to convene their own tables. So that was important. I know black women are the mother of civilization, but do we always have to be the mothers to everybody else? Remember Kara, right? From Essence? Caroline Wonga. Caroline Wonga.

She said something that I thought was so real. She was like, inclusive in diversity in corporate America always means everybody else. We can't just say just black. Why can't it ever just be just black? Yeah. No, you're right. And I think in this country, the challenge is, is that the original sin of this country was against the indigenous people and then against the other indigenous people on this earth. And that is black people. Right. We were the indigenous people in Africa. They brought us here because, you know, we could survive the trials of slavery. And most of what's been done that's been wrong in this country has been done wrong to us first. We've been the ones experimented on to be literally figuratively and literally. And so it's hard because when you try to do then as you said

diversity programs and issues it gets expanded beyond us pretty quickly um and i think unfortunately in this country it's easier to sell the idea of saving people that are not black right of sort of doing programs that will help anybody but black in order to even get our civil rights um you know our civil rights programs done we had to make sure that their economic, that they benefited, you know, poor white people and black. You had to marry us together. There is just an allergy to blackness in this country. That is a problem. And I don't know how you get past it.

But I think when we as people who are oppressed people, you know, it doesn't help us to exclude other oppressed people. It helps us to include them because it makes our army bigger. We'll be back right here on the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy. And right now we kicking it with Miss Joyann Reid and Tiffany Cross. I also know on the first episode, well, on this episode in particular, the culture is black women. You have a sit down with Vice President Kamala Harris.

Yes. So we would try to get our hands on the screen ahead of time, but you guys had it all locked up and we couldn't get our hands on it. But do you feel like for her as the vice president, she's gotten treated way worse than any other vice president in our history? A hundred percent. Absolutely. I mean, look, they've always said vice president job isn't worth a bucket of spit like that was the like so the theme of it it's a tough job you mostly do funerals and you do the jobs the president doesn't want to do they give you the portfolio they don't want right that's that's usually what the job is but i think for kamala harris she's had like the triple problem of being a woman and so people not being willing

to respect her the way they would respect a male vice president of being black which we already know that what that carries with it is the anti blackness comes you know with the package and then also being vice president at a time that is really really difficult where her portfolio think about what's on her plate what they've given her and what she's accepted um voting rights which is, dead on arrival in Congress. Immigration, which she's the daughter of an immigrant. They sent her down to be the one to be like, do not come. They sent her down to give that message. And she had police reform, also dead on arrival. So it's like she has the toughest portfolio in that administration.

And so she takes the most hits. But she also doesn't get her flowers for things that she's working on. Things like, you know, funding for HBCU. She was ahead in that, but they didn't push her out there to let her own that. Why not have her take the applause for the things that she's doing well? You know, everything around her is the stuff that isn't working. And so she's taking a lot of the blame for things that are really the fault of bad legislating, fault of a Senate that will not legislate. We have two Democrats who won't help. And so, you know, the fact that Democrats refuse to fully use their power in the Senate,

that's not her fault. She's the head of the Senate, but she can't make them vote. She can't make Joe Manchin behave. So I think she's getting more hits than she deserves and not the credit that she deserves. That's why I wish you would call him out. Because when you don't call him out, it looks like everybody's complicit. When you don't call out a mansion,

when you don't call out a cinema, they think that everybody's complicit. That's true. I think you have a good point there, Charlamagne, because in politics, it does feel like sometimes that people in the Democratic Party are operating from a playbook pre-2016.

Because Donald Trump came in and ripped that up. He was like, this is the new game. And so when you have people operating with a modicum of dignity, and I know our forever float is, Michelle Obama said, when they go low, you go high.

That ain't my ministry. I'm like, let's get in these streets and throw some hands if that's what it's going to be. And I think you have to run campaigns that inspire people and when people don't connect with you on that level joey and i talk about this all the time madam vice president and you know this charlie she black black okay she went to howard she aka and when she talks to you yeah it is i mean she sounds so regular she's so regular and approachable and i just it's unfortunate that

more people don't see that and there's also just the dumbing down of the American electorate. You know, people don't understand civics. They don't understand politics. They don't understand how things work. And, you know, when people are occupying or employing, I should say, hashtag activism and thinking they've done something and have all the criticism for everybody else. All the people who are like, well, if I was alive during the civil rights movement. Well, guess what? Whatever you're doing right now, that's what you were doing during the civil rights movement

and when I try to tell people because I have even my kids you know my you know I'm I'm an old bitch at this point you know my kids are grown they in their 20s they all vote I make them vote and I literally I'm like do you want that cell phone bill because you still on my plan so you need to vote so I you know I really push them but I mean even they will say to me, why? What's the point? What are we getting? And I always try to remind people, if you really think about what did Barack did Trump actually do? Like, OK, we know what he said. He won't build the wall. Max was going to pay for it. There is no wall. He didn't do that. That quote, platinum plan. He really thought it was something that was going to give us a hundred million dollars. But it wasn't nothing like that. I mean, his one big accomplishment during his presidency, during his

four years, he did one thing. He passed the biggest tax cut that rich people ever got in the history of this country. That tax cut went like 80% to 400 people. You know, the 400 richest people in this country were bathing in that money. And if you think about what we really got, what anybody else below that really got, it really wasn't much. But people, they perceived him to have done a lot. Because he talked a lot. They didn't really do anything.

And the STEMIs were putting his name on them. That's his marketing. I've seen a lot of, I'm curious, your thoughts take over your show, you ask the questions, but I have a question for you. Because I do see a lot of, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm going to take over your show. You ask the questions, but I have a question for you. Because I do see a lot of black men who are older hip hop heads, like buy into that BS. Like I've seen them adopt conservative talking points. And it's just, it's baffling to me. And also be like, why don't we just do that?

If Donald Trump did it, why don't we use our executive power to do this? I'm curious how that happens. Because people like gangsta. And you know, to what Joy said earlier, what you said, like Trump ripped up a playbook. So if you can do that for bad, why can't you do that for good? Like, it's really just that simple.

Yeah. And Democrats don't have that in their DNA. Democrats are not. And one of my biggest criticisms of the Democratic Party is number one, they don't know how to fight. They just don't know how to fight. Like, if you really want to know how to fight Republicans, you got to find an ex-Republican and they know how to fight. They just don't know how to fight. If you really want to know how to fight Republicans, you have to find an ex-Republican, and they know how to fight.

And then the other thing is, and this is the unfortunate piece, they're not good at fighting for us. They don't have the language, and they don't have the reflex of fighting for us. You know, we had to force them. I mean, even during the Kingian era, they had to literally force the Democratic president to do it. You had to push them.

It's not like they were willing to do it. You know, and so they don't have that reflex. And so we have to kind of give them the language. And it feels like we're constantly pulling and begging, even though we give them our votes. And so I think that's part of the frustration too. It doesn't feel like they're fighting like you. Sometimes it's not just

fighting. It's being seen to be fighting. It's being visible fighting. And they're not comfortable with that. But you know when they do fight for us, it's being seen to be fighting. It's being visible fighting. And they're not comfortable with that. But you know when they do fight for us, it's like a whisper to us. You know, like, hey, black people, when I get in office, this is all I'll do. Right. We're going to put this on the holiday.

We're going to put this on the holiday. We all say that. Like, even yesterday, Joe Biden signed an executive order for a LGBTQ hate bill. He did. And it's just like, you don't see what's going on with black people in this country? But I mean, they also did sign.

I mean, to give them credit for the first time in what, 100 and something years, there is now an anti-lynching act. That took since, you know, they started, I think in 1904, they started trying to pass an anti-lynching act. That finally passed. That's something Kamala Harris worked on as a senator. Cory Booker, the two of them were the two. It finally passed. Right. And it's, and we'll give them credit, but that's actually law.

So there's actually an anti-lynching bill, federal anti-lynching bill. So it's not just an executive order. No. It's an actual law. And that's stronger than an executive order. And another thing, too, is like you can't even, it seems like you can't even question the Democratic Party. Like think about when y'all did the, y'all demanded that he basically pick a black woman to be his VP.

Y'all got flack from other Democrats on that. From other black people. From black people. That's how deep white supremacy works. Like other black folks, like don't you mess up with Mr. Charlie. He been living up. We eat good. Don't talk about it.

He messing us up. It's like, f*** that. Charlie. We eat good. Don't talk about it. We built this country. We put so much into this nation and everybody else gets to ask for what they want. Gun rights activists, you know, they get to ask for what they want. The LGBTQ community gets to ask for what they want. The Latino community gets to ask for what they want. Why me, the people who I descend from the folks who

built this country, why can't I demand that this country, if we say a government by the people, of the people, for the people, why can't for the people include me and people who look like me? And demanding works because look, but Joe Biden said he was going to do two things. He said he was going to have a black woman vice president. He was demanded of it. He did it. He said, I'm going to put a black one on the Supreme Court. He did it.

Demanding works. And so I think that's the other piece of it, is that we can't be passive in our democracy. We as black people need to demand some more stuff because they do owe it to us. They really can't win elections without us. Yes, we're only 12%, but we, black women in particular, are the highest percentage

voting population in this country. That's what I was going to say. Black women really do move elections. And I want to ask, how concerned are you about upcoming elections, seeing what's been going on around the nation right now? I'm concerned. I'm worried. I mean, I'm genuinely worried about this country because that sense of people feeling frustrated and feeling like they're not getting enough and it's not worth voting is extremely dangerous. Because we sit back and say you know what i'm gonna punish these democrats let the republicans win you have no idea who you're dealing with

the republican party has been eaten alive by genuine white supremacists i mean genuine ones this movement the tea party movement was one step toward it they've gone overboard these are people who don't believe elections should count they don't believe we should have the right to vote. They don't. They believe that we shouldn't have the right to make white people feel uncomfortable. They're literally passing laws and you can't make white people feel uncomfortable about what really happened in the country. And so, I mean, and they're willing to punish businesses who were too nice to gay people. Like we're at a point now where it's fascism, it's straight fascism. And if you sit back, that's how it takes over.

So I'm worried that people they've done a good job of demoralizing us and we should not be easily demoralized. You know, we need to make sure that, look, we're not voting for change that you're going to get immediately. Republicans waited 60 years to get rid of Roe v. Wade and they didn't give a damn. They never played a long game. Right. They played a long game. They're like Al Qaeda. They're like, if it takes 100 years to defeat your society,e v. Wade and they didn't give a damn. They never retired. Yeah, they played the long game. They played the long game. They're like Al Qaeda. They're like, if it takes 100 years to defeat your society, we're going to do it. And we'll keep voting and voting and voting until we get the craziest people in there that will give

us what we want. We say, I didn't get what I wanted this election. I ain't voted again. That's exactly what they want. Yeah, that's voter suppression, really. That is. But I also think, so I think it's two things. One, for sure. Like we have to participate in this democracy. Like it is something for us to protect and empower.

But I also think when you feel like people aren't talking to you and you feel like there has not been a tangible change in my life overnight. You know, we have the ACA, you know, Obamacare, all that. But people want to know, you know, what. I've been in the hood a long time. It ain't nothing changed. And when you see on television, I've seen so many conversations about Latino voters without a Latino voter in sight. Black voters, ain't no black voters on the panel.

And you have all these cute little colloquialisms, like NASCAR dads and soccer moms. Well, that don't resonate with us. What about the basketball dads or the auntie voting block or the cousin voting block? The aunt, that don't resonate with us. Like, what about the basketball dads or, you know, the auntie voting block or the cousin voting block? The auntie voting block is really, you know, it's our thing. But isn't it something that those little

nicknames for us that equally apply don't exist? And people feel like, well, where am I in this conversation? They serious. And they gonna give you a hard candy when you need it. They be like, I got a hard candy and you better vote. You know, and I love them. We'll be back right here on the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club.

Yes, it's the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy. And right now we kicking it with Miss Joyann Reid and Tiffany Cross. You guys will have Maria Taylor on. Yes. And so I want to talk about that because I know she's going to be speaking about her departure from ESPN for the first time. I always feel like sports might be worse than hip-hop for women

when it comes to working in that field as a journalist. Yeah. And so, you know, I'm so interested to hear what she has to say. And she gave the tea. Yeah. She did spill the tea. She did spill the tea. She did spill the tea. But the thing is what Maria Taylor went through is going to be relatable to so many, like so many of us show up.

And the assumption is you didn't deserve to get here. You didn't work hard to get here. When we know we work harder than most to achieve certain levels of success. And she talks about, you know, the way, not only the way that the woman who accused her of just being an affirmative action hire, essentially. You got the job because you're black. Right, exactly. But also she talks about the way her company

and the colleagues, you know, treated her, which was another disappointing thing. I have to say again, I was watching these athletes come out there and speak on behalf of Rachel and say you know like well she always been good to me you know I just couldn't imagine how that felt for Maria Taylor because you remember what happened with Jamel Hill at the same company and Mike was like I ain't doing the show without Jamel like everybody rallied around her and it just broke my heart. And we didn't know Maria, but we knew Maria. That's right.

Because she was us. And that's really what the special is. We don't know all the black women who will be watching, but we do know you. And we understand you because we are you. And it was really generous of Maria to be so generous in spirit and share that story. Because it enraged us, but also made us feel empowered to rally around her. That's great because a lot of women in the workplace have issues and you might feel like

you're alone. You can't speak about it. You lose your job. Then afterwards, you don't want to speak about it because you don't want to get blackballed. And then also sometimes you feel like nobody cares. Yeah, absolutely. And you feel and the thing is, is that we don't have enough spaces internally in corporate America, even the sort of official ones they set up.

You don't necessarily feel that you're safe. You know, if you have a complaint that is uniquely about being a black woman in the space, it's like, who do you talk to? You know? So that's why,

I mean, I know when I was, when I first came back to MSNBC, I was at the Griot and we literally had our little low ceiling. They had us in the back, you know, they didn't even give us like a lot of space. We were like in the back.

It was the Latino team and the black team. You just called it the Black Tino Revolution. We were back there alone. And we used to have almost everybody black that was like the one-off on their team. The one black person on this team. The one black producer on that team. The talent that was on this team. They would come and they would sit with us. They would just come and hang out with us because they were like, I just need to be around black people. I don't even need to say anything. I don't even need to talk. I just literally need to be in the presence of my people for five minutes just to be able to decompress from being at work. And, you know, and like I said, MSNBC is a decent workplace. It's not. There's much worse places. But even in a place

that's not the worst, you still need that moment because there are certain things you're going through at work that only other black people can understand. We twist ourselves in knots make other people comfortable you know what i mean i mean you have a room full of all black people okay if one person walks in who's not black the entire energy changes we can have a conversation here today that you know we would all understand but somebody who is not a member of the culture might not you know if i'm oh, you put your foot in these greens. Somebody's like, why would they want to put their foot in these greens? Why would they put their foot in these greens? Green is green with feet on it. Doesn't seem sanitary.

Exactly. Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with hiring somebody just because they're black. Yeah, me neither. I think that's what it should be. They do that all the time. We're a qualified person. If they're qualified.

I mean, because by the way, I was just going to say, oh, qualified. I have a problem with that, though. I mean, you shouldn't be hiring anybody who's not. I think any executive that says, hey, we need more black people in here. Fine. Yeah.

We going to teach you. That's right. Right. Well, if you're not good, we're going to get you good. I agree with you on that. One of the conversations that I had with Vice President Harris, and unfortunately, we weren't rolling at this time. This was afterwards.

We both talked about that because sometimes you have to be intentional about saying, this person may not have the most experience, but they're smart. They're capable, and they can be taught. And in the same situation, somebody in the majority culture might say, you know what, this is my cousin's son. This is my friend's daughter. Let me go again and give them the job. So they're getting the job specifically because who knows them. And so if we can say I have this position open and I really want to hire somebody black. I did that. I literally I'm like, I literally want, you know, our assistants are sitting out there, our APs out there. to say normally the people who get these assistant positions are affluent young and white and some of

them are brilliant like my previous ap brilliant young white man he's like we call him the six three he's like family i love him but i'm like when it was time to replace him i was like my spirit is telling me there is a young black man out there who can do this job who may not have the most experience who may never have worked in news i'm'm going to find this young man. I'm going to find him. And I literally was determined and found him. He went to Howard. He went to Howard. My assistant went to Morehouse. Yeah.

Her assistant's at Alpha. My assistant's at Sigma. You know, like it's a real black, black, black team. So they be beefing with each other. Right. No, they don't be beefing. Blatantly. But I mean, they're alone.

I mean, if you think about who are the APs in the company, it's a lot of Ivy League young people who are not, and I'm not saying they're not, they shouldn't be there, but it's not, there aren't a lot of... They're not representing America. That's right. And that's all you have. Right. And so we were very intentional. We both were very intentional about

there is a young black man who can do that job and I'm going to find them. And I don't see anything wrong with that. So man, you're going to be able to hear more conversations like this this Sunday at 10 p.m. on the culture is black, black women, right? Yes.

Very much looking forward to it. And we I mean, look, we don't just talk politics. We talk life. We talk there. We talk about our brothers, you know, black men. So it's it's I mean,

it's really genuinely what happens culture. It's culture. And it's what happens when black women gather. And this is like you get to eavesdrop on a conversation that you wouldn't normally be invited to. So that's really the lens that we offer. And it's a lot of fun.

It's fun. It's fun. I mean, even Joy and I have watched it like twice now. And we still laugh each and every time. I just found out, though, that Joy did not eat a lot. Because we were talking so much. And I'm like, this is why every shot of me, I'm like of all i had killer shapewear on if i had tried to eat i would have exploded my whole outfit would have exploded i had two pairs of shapewear on i'm trying to hold

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