The Breakfast Club - Pacman Jones & Brandon Marshall Talk NFL Softness, Pittsburgh Beef, Brand Monetization + More

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

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Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj mv angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got some special guests joining us this morning yes indeed we got adam pac-man jones yeah i don't know why I did that. I've never heard him call that in my life. I didn't want to make sure. He's a podcaster now. You just never know. And we got Brandon Marshall.

What's up, guys? What they do? You a podcaster now? Man, I don't know where he get that intro from. He a little bit. God. Goodness gracious. Pac-Man Jones.

Now, Pac-Man, you can't curse on this show. I heard you on the radio in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. You got to tell me that off the rip. You can curse. Because I'm driving a car without a seatbelt sometimes. So if I need to put my seatbelt on, just let me know. You can curse.

Yeah, we're not live. We're not live. You was live in Pittsburgh. That's where I was. He called me right after talking about, man, they ain't tell me, bro. They cut me off. I said, they cut you off. He said, cut me off.

And then they called me up. They said, that was legendary. Well, you know, that's a fine. It's like a $250 fine. Depending on what word it is. Oh, for real? Yeah. Depending on the word.

Well, it was eat. You can say it there. Oh, it was eat shit, pick, fuck pick. This is a horrible fucking town. Eat shit, pick. It's like three of them. That's funny when you say stuff like that because you're talking to the fans, I'm sure, or the Steelers. But when you go there, it's probably some dude that, you know, reps the city and like, man, why you say we a piece of shit town?

Well, you know what? Actually, I haven't met that person because everybody know where I stand at between Pittsburgh and West Virginia or Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. But every now and then you're always going to have somebody that's got something to say. But, like, I'm not – I have nothing against the people of Pittsburgh. I just don't like Pittsburgh. You know what I mean? When he asked me to go to the camp to see the Steelers, I'm like, yo, hell no.

It would be against everything that I stand for to do that. That's just me personally. But you said you wanted to play for Mike Tomlin one time. I said I would have played for Mike Tomlin. But, you know, I don't have no problem with Mike Tomlin. Actually, Mike Tomlin is one of my good friends, I would say, as far as coaching-wise. He actually hired Blaine Stewart, who that was my coach in West Virginia,

who is also now the special teams coach in Pittsburgh. Okay. But it just – I can't do that, bro. Like, I can't. Here's the problem, though. Like, we watch these games on Sunday. You see dudes beefing. But 95%, 97% of the time, when they walk in the locker room, it's over.

They could be out there by the buses, families talking. You know, oh, yeah, that was nothing. So now he's three years out, done playing ball. He's still carrying his beef. Like, bro, that was football. We got paid to do that. I mean, I can't tell you how old I be. I hold beef a long time.

But what did they do to you that's that bad that you like holding this? Bro, it was just, it's not what they did to me. It's what I didn't get to do to them. But, like, just imagine this. Say, like, you, where you from? I'm from New York, Queens. Queens, right? So let's just say you bet

one of your your buddies that you really didn't like was down in Brooklyn he's like yo man I want you to come throw your birthday party here and started back in Queens once you come chill meet everybody you know get you some interviews don't add up like and then It just don't add up. And my point to Brandon is, well, I put myself in a situation where I might have to take the seatbelt off. Mm-hmm. You get what I'm saying?

Yeah, but I would not F with him, not the whole Brooklyn. Yeah. He's just like, I'm not going to Brooklyn. Yeah, right. I'm not going to Brooklyn. He's like, F Pittsburgh

and the record label staff and mother effing crew. If I'm not getting paid to go to Pittsburgh, you will not see Adam Jones, where Brandon loves the little shitty town. I'm from Pittsburgh. It's a little shitty town.

Oh, you're from Pittsburgh. That's the only reason. There's no reason for nobody to go there. You wouldn't go there unless you're getting paid. So you're telling me that. What are you doing when Black and Yellow comes on in the club or on the radio? Oh, you know, I ain't that personal. I'm into music.

Okay. The music play itself. Where? I just ain't into nothing with Pittsburgh when it comes to sports. Nothing with Pittsburgh. Chilling in Pittsburgh. Gracious. You know what I mean?

That ain't Jones. Is there any other city you don't mess with like that? No. Pittsburgh might be the only one. What they say, that's not P. No, dude. Hey, I will say though, Pac-Man, you don't get enough credit for how

you've grown. Because there was a time when you was in the news all the time for something. So why do you feel like people only whisper about your success but want to scream your failures? You know, because certain shit sells. And at the time when I was, if media would have been what it is today,

I would have came out and talked about every situation. Just because it's more open now. It's fair. We have a voice. Do you envy that a little bit? The fact that players can say what's on their mind and it gets out fast and they got to be polite and nice. I actually like it because I'm one of those guys,

like even with my wife, we have like physical frustration. Like get your shit off your chest, you know what I mean? And after 30 minutes, we'll move on. But I don't want you bullshitting all day and being mad all day because you wanted to tell me something 30 minutes ago about the way I said something. That doesn't make sense. But if I had this media what they have right now,

I would have had a chance to speak about everything. You got to realize, when we was up under the shield, they was hiding us. It's like, yo, you can't tweet this. Yo, you can't say nothing after the game. If you say this, you're getting fined. And our fines were really big. You're talking about them fines that they find on radio?

They find them saying 250s in the locker room, but it come out of my check. You get what I'm saying? When I choose to go against the rules or say something crazy that might catch a clip on all of the new channels. Actually, when I cussed out Jerry Porter for the playoffs game, I got fined like $150 for that. Damn. For that rent.

And they ended up giving me half of it back afterwards because it was just insane that he was on the field. But, like, yeah, if I could have really just went on my podcast or went on our platform right after the game, oh, my God. Right. Probably had two, three million people you know i mean watching or subscribing just from that moment and that's the difference from these younger guys that have the platform these days people watching it you know i mean so if you're saying the right

thing at the right time you can go and get you three four hundred people to watch what you say it's a little bit more easier Brandon expand on that why is it important for athletes to have control of their own narratives like y'all do now cause it's a business

point blank period you know you gotta think about every how we get paid is because of the TV deals right you see these

they just expanded the college football playoffs from eight to twelve that's a difference in two billion dollars damn right They just expanded the college football playoffs from 8 to 12. That's a difference in $2 billion. Damn. Right? So it's all about eyeballs.

So, Pat, what he talking about, you can go out there, and some of these young guys in high school, college, if they're in the right place at the right time, say the right thing, do the right thing, they could get to a million followers. They can get to a million subscribers. You guys know this in the game podcasting or radio. They can get to a million subscribers. You know, you guys know this in a game podcasting or radio. That's what it's all about. Now, how do you monetize

that platform? How do you monetize those followers? So we don't need to go to ESPN anymore. We don't need to go to FS1 anymore. We got our own platform. We got our own distribution. It's fucking YouTube. It's Instagram. It's TikTok, right? So now it's about, do you have the foundation?

Do you understand the best business practices to build on top of that? I recommend every guy out there start their own YouTube channel. I recommend every guy out there don't take the Nike deal if they're not offering millions of dollars because they're not. There's only a handful of basketball players really making money off the field, off the court. There's only a handful of football players making millions of dollars because they not. There's only a handful of basketball players really making money off the field, off the court. There's only a handful of football players making millions of dollars off the field. So go start your own brand, your own platform. You have a moment in the game. You got guys making $300,000 after a game on a T-shirt.

Damn. Now that's real. Like, Dez Bryant made probably over $10 million on his X. Throw up the X. Julian Edelman playing with the Patriots made over $10 million on his X, throw up the X. Julian Edelman playing with the Patriots made over $10 million with his T-shirt line, right? Why would you go take that $100,000 Nike deal? That's real.

I was going to ask, you know, the game has changed so much since you guys played football. Do you look at the game as a lot softer now? What? Do you think you can play in that game? Shit's so soft now? Like, we was talking the other day. I don't know who I was talking to, but like

only thing that you're allowed to do right now, I think if we was on the show, is cut block. We don't even know what that is. What is cut block? So like, you run it to me. You derail Revis. I'm wide receiver and I come cut you in your knees. Just dive in your knees.

I thought that was illegal. No. No, no, no, no. So the offense can do it. Certain situations. Certain situations. So say it's a correct toss, which is sweet. Like toss it to the running back. Big ass tackle that come around and say my little ass is coming up. He can go and cut me.

You get what I'm saying? That's probably the only thing that haven't changed. But everything else, shit, you can't even hit a motherfucker. You got to make sure you're watching how you hit him. And that makes, you say you like it, but, you know, somebody coming at you full steam ahead, right? And now he got to watch how he hits you. So he got to make sure he doesn't hit you in a certain way.

You could be going down. He could be going down. But if it's helmet to helmet, then he get a penalty. He get a fine. I don't like it. Because, first of all, it's making me think too much and when you start thinking you get hurt you start ducking your head you start putting your head in different places brandon's offensive guy he don't like getting hit me i like to wake folks up you know

what i'm saying if i catch you not looking i can get your ass i'm gonna get you you know what i'm saying so um i'm i'm like it the old school way. I don't like the key personal fouls. If he looked like he hit him hard, he already thrown out the game. Like, it's got to get to a certain point where we get some consistency of it so it can look right. It don't even look right right now. And you can't celebrate anymore, right?

You celebrate, you get a flag. No, it's different now. With the celebration, it used to be like that. But now, because they're embracing us. They're embracing our flair, our fashion, you know, all of that stuff. They're letting us do more on the field. So they're doing more there. But to his point, I mean, to what you guys were talking about earlier,

I like it, man, because of health. That's why I like it. You know what I'm saying? I had a situation where I went to crack back a guy, and I hit him so hard he was out for a couple of weeks. And after that, and that was my second year in the league. I played 13 years. After that, I said, I don't need to do that.

As long as I get in position, make the block, my guy get where he needs to go, I get what I need out of it, I ain't going to be hurt. He ain't going to be hurt. He ain't going to be hurt. I'm good, right? Because now when you see some of these dudes, like he lucky. He played 13 years too. He lucky how he walking around.

He can still play. He can still play. But some of these dudes walking around, they look terrible. They in bad shape, man. So I think the game is getting better because they're protecting certain parts of the game when it comes to the physical. And Pac-Man, you played for a long time. I broke my neck, though.

I had C3, C4. I'm paralyzed. So, like, I got to. See, think about that. Think about that. Think about that. That's my point. And when they say, let's take the head out of the game,

that's basically what they're talking about. Can't do that, bro. But, see, that's old school thinking, and that's how we came up, is, like, that's how you play the game but I'm just one guy out there yeah you know but some people just don't like change he's don't like change but the game should be intense level like is talking about the field which a neck broke horrible it was horrible I'm sitting there screaming like, fuck! Yo! They're like, bro, what the hell wrong with you? I'm like, bro, I cannot move.

Help! And they thought I was joking. I wasn't joking. Fucking muffed the punt. And James Harrison, y'all know how big he is. I'm going to fucking hit me on the top of my head. Now, that was a dirty play. That's why I don't like Pittsburgh.

So it's James Harrison fault. But when I got hit on the top of my head, I was down for like six minutes. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh shit, I can't feel nothing. Looking up, my boy played with Pittsburgh, who went to high school with me, Karen Fox. Loving to death.

Saved my life, actually. And he's like, Pat, you better fair catch the ball, boy, we're gonna kill you out here. And I'm looking up, I'm still paralyzed. I said, man, fuck you. Help! But I'm crazy.

They're like, man, are you hurt for real? I'm like, yeah, fool. It's a funny story if you tell it. So anyway, I end up getting off the field

and getting myself together. Had the surgeon and all of that stuff. You're good now. But like, either you for the game or you're not for the game. You get what I'm saying?

Like, so much other stuff that you can do to get hurt. Like, this shit he talking about, there's more people that's walking down the street that's getting hit

with bullets and cars and everything. So, me personally, I don't live my life with saying, all right, we got to take away all

the unnecessary hitting so the game can be safer. No, the game still is gonna be what it's gonna be. You can't control certain ways people get hit. And I'm sorry, like, it wasn't James Harrison's fault because I muffed the pun and he hit me and I'm

paralyzed. What was he supposed to do? Been in the same situation as somebody else. I would have tore their ass up too. Hey, man, sorry. I hope you're all right. How did homie save your life? You said he saved your life.

Oh, well, Fox was one of my boys. His parents, like, adopted me when I was young. Karen Fox, we went to the same high school together. He ended up being drafted third round by Pittsburgh, got a Super Bowl ring. But, like, that's my boy-boy, like, because, you know, we was in the projects. His parents was pretty much well off, you know. They had about 40 acres, and they would come get me. Fox didn't really show me something different beside the hood.

Right, right, right. As always, that's what I be trying to do now as far something different beside the hood. That's what I be trying to do now as far as kids in the hood. Let me get y'all out of here and show y'all something different because if you never get out of here and see nothing different, the mindset is going to keep your ass right here. That's right. And that was the best thing that they could have did for me. Hey man, let me get you out of here and show you something else.

Shit, I ain't know nothing else. I ain't never been nowhere nowhere I travel playing football basketball no mean go from the projects the school school the Florida Florida Alabama just playing sports but as far as seeing different things shit my front mask I'm from Atlanta Georgia man my first time going to Lennox Mall is when I was 21 years old never even knew them by you know me I'm a years old. I ain't never even knew nothing about Lenox. You know what I mean? I'm a Westside kid.

I'm over there at Green Brown Mall, West End. Lenox? I ain't never heard shit about no Lenox. You know what I mean? I ain't learned about Lenox until I was almost rich. Like, I came home, bro, the end of my freshman year. My grandma was sick. And Earl Calloway, which is a kid who played with me,

dad had just got a church that was by Lenox Mall. So I go, first of all, shit, we ain't have no car. I ain't have no car at the time. So it's like 45 minutes across the way. I get over there, I'm like in heaven, I'm like, bro, is this

what money really look like? Because that was my first time seeing, valet parking shit you know what i mean uh uh sax bro i don't know no damn sax fifth wars you know i know what foot locker macy's yeah but i went And I was fresh Best dressed and all that But I knew how to put Shit together That I could put together Now shoes I'm always gonna have

The best shoes But like as far as What do they call These stores Designer The designer stores The Lulu's And all of these

Man I had no idea Of none of that None of it So it just opened your mind To what's possible Made you want more. Yeah, it made me want more. I'm like, god damn. It's crazy because... This is what I want

right here. This is what I want. Yeah, but it's crazy because when you think about some of our cities, right? Like even Chicago, when I was playing for the Bears, there's some people live on the south side of Chicago, never been downtown. That shit's real and it's about exposure leads to expansion.

You know, when you start getting those certain environments, it does open up your brain and open up your mind and seeing what's real out there. That's why, I mean, people should always travel. But now you got social media, right? Social media, like, damn, that person's doing that. I want to see that. I want to do that.

But that's real, though. Some people never even travel five miles to the other side of town. That's right. I was going to ask, you know, both of you playing football, would you advise your family members, your young kids to play football? Because a lot of people say, nah, I would never advise them. Yeah. This generation, I got nephews in high school right now,

and this is the last generation that's playing football. Really? Right, yeah. Just two weeks ago, opening night, high school football just started fourth quarter game on the line they put him back there he's he's he's he's him now he's nice put him back there kickoff return boom he takes off down the middle somebody clean his clock bam him come flying off mouth bleeding blood all over the place he's out right and and and look i i played the game violent like so i i'm sitting up here sounding soft compared to patch i'm just finna say i played yeah i'm soft now

though but like you gotta think about that like i'm out there with damn near tears in my eye like this is my this damn near my son right and it just hits a little differently because you only get one brain right you understand so for me that's the last generation but it was already in a blood they seen they was in the dormitories with me when i was one i mean when they was one right so like i couldn't stop that but my son he giving me hell right now he's seven i got i got twins then i got a three-year-old and the three-year-old's a boy and then i got the boy girl twin and the seven-year-old he giving me hell he want to play but I'm like son man we can play tennis man we can play other things we can play basketball but you know we gonna see how that goes my son is my son is the same

my youngest son and I wouldn't let him play tackle this yeah I let him play flag though I say you play flag let's see how you like it then we go from there what about you pepper oh my jumping off the porch. My. And my hustable kids. Like, but my kids. So, of course, everybody know about Chris, my best friend who passed away. Everybody don't know. You got to tell them. Well, I adopted my best friend's kids, which is little Chris DeMarcus Insani,

which is an eighth grader, freshman to freshman, is the number one player in the country in football, wide receiver. What do you play? Wide receiver. What school? 6'4", West Claremont, Cincinnati. Okay. He the real deal. Like how B was saying, yeah, he got it.

He got it. And you adopted all three of them? That's very honorable, man. Yeah, my niece, she got out of the office. She played basketball, too. But my youngest son is four, little Junie. This little joker, like, there's no way I could tell him, like, no, you can't play. I did the same thing.

I'm trying to, like, just slowly but surely, like, all right, bro, go and get the green light with tackle football. Last year, three played flag. This year, I'm going to put them at flag again. And then next year, I'll let them play tackle. And then I got two daughters. My oldest daughter is in Atlanta. She a track star.

My youngest daughter is here with me. But, yeah, man. But I let my daughter play flag, too, though. My daughters play flag. They love it. Yeah, yeah. My niece play flag. They love it.

They play with the boys. They love it. They fast, quick. There ain't no money in that for them. No, there is, though. love it. They fast, quick. It just. There ain't no money in that for them. No, there is, though. Scholarship. Scholarship, okay. They taking flag football series now.

For real? Yeah. In college? Yes. Yeah, what you really? My niece started playing last year. I said, keep going. Yeah, I was going to go to school for free.

Yes. Wow. Yeah, bro. You get a scholarship playing flag football. You got to think about power. I'm like, wow. I didn't know that. Wow.

Yeah. You know, is that why you got into the mental health space so heavy brandon because you know you're talking about the physical aspects of football but you know now we see the cte clearly had effect too is that what got you into it no i think football um got me there faster and exposed it faster right i think a lot of us i say the etiology behind what we go through is environmental it's upbringing you know like the shit that i was doing and saying you go back to my neighborhood my grandma act like that my aunts act like that the neighbors act like that right so it's like

you're a product of your environment there's certain things out there some people living with anxiety or depression um that depression, those are real things. And everybody's case is different. But for me, when you start making mistakes at that level and now you've got Breakfast Club talking about you, you're on ESPN, da-na-na, da-na-na, it does something to you when you're sitting there literally watching that. You could be around people and they're talking about you.

They got your mug shot up there, right? So now you start looking at yourself in the mirror just a little bit differently because now you got millions of dollars on the line. You got your legacy on the line. You got your own goals on the line, so what you going to do? Some dudes look in the mirror, and they say, you know what? I'm going to continue to go down the same path, and they just don't got nothing, and it's over.

Some dudes say, you know what? I'm going to continue to go down the same path. And they just don't got nothing, and it's over. Some dudes say, you know what, I'm going to figure this out. So for me, I wanted to figure it out for so many different reasons. And the league, and we were talking about this a little earlier, like there's so many things that we have available to us, but they made me go to get help and counseling. But it was like four or five years, though. Four or five years. One time I was talking to four or five different people.

I was like, just got a DUI. And they're like, oh, you got to talk to this substance abuse person. So now I'm talking to this person once a week. Then they had me talking to this damn person. You already know how it is. But did you take it serious, though? I didn't. I didn't.

So the first four years, I didn't. And then when I got to the Miami Dolphins, right, and then I went to Ricky Williams, like, damn, Rick. I was like, because I couldn't control, you know, i talked like you know whatever i felt i said right fucking coach says something do something dumb like the fuck we doing so ricky williams he just came out with the documentary 30 for 30 right so as soon as i got traded there signed this 40 uh five four year extension 47 million dollar deal right as soon as i touched down to Miami, he had this whole premiere. And so we all go there, and he's talking about mental health, right?

This is a dude that walked away from millions of dollars and went and lived in a tent in Australia. Like, what? Right? And then all of a sudden I'm seeing him now, and he's a totally different cat. So you're watching this documentary, then you're seeing who Ricky Williams is today, is today right fast forward to the season terrible season and i just couldn't control i'm like i come in i'm like yo you know i ain't gonna say nothing i know coach

gonna be on something terrible some some some bullshit let me not say nothing and then i would just boom say so so i went to rick one day i was, Rick. I was like, do you think I'm bipolar or something? You all right? Because I'm thinking about his documentary. He said, no, B, I don't think you bipolar. I just think you say the things that we all want to say but shouldn't say. So I was like, okay. So I was like, who's that doctor, that Dr. Gunderson?

Like, you recommend I go talk to him? He's like, I don't know, man. I just think, you know, you just say the things that we all want to say and shouldn't say. So that off season, I end up going to McLean Hospital in Waltham, Massachusetts. And I sat down and they walked me through. I did a clinical evaluation, a neurological evaluation. I was in mentalization therapy. So I was up there for three months in an outpatient program. And, you know. And you was outpatient for three months?

Yeah, I was outpatient. So they let you stay at the hotel? No, I had my own apartment. I moved my whole team up to everything. They didn't let me do that. Yeah. So I get there, and right off top, I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, the best way to describe it as emotional disorder.

Can you regulate your emotions? Can you cope with what's going on? Do you have the skills and tools? So what happens is you go in these programs. Some people are inpatient. Some people need medicine. Some people are outpatient. Some people is a mixture of both.

For me, I was up there for three months in an outpatient program. I was in dialectical behavior therapy. Dialectical behavior therapy is this group therapy that teaches you the skills and tools to be able to cope some people and a lot of us and that's what i mean by environmental fucking shit's going on outside can you can i look at you and say bro you hurt my feelings can i look at you and say man like let me just breathe give me a second let me go on the walk and then i'm gonna come back and we can pick this up no what we do we just respond right we react I should let me say that not respond we react right so that would that's what dialectical behavior therapy teaches then there's

mentalization therapy a lot of us is black and white we just stuck in our ways so it helps you with your rationale help you process thing then you got cognitive behavior therapy then you got self-assessment self-assessment is just a group there but we sit around and just talk. A lot of us don't even talk. You know how powerful that is, just talking, looking at you and saying, this is what's going on in my life, right? That was probably the most profound thing I've ever gone through.

Forget mentalization therapy, cognitive behavior therapy, or DBT. It was just sitting in a self-assessment, listening to people talk. I love CBT. All right. What about you back maybe my whole thing was the bipolar thing and my mom was taking medicine this is the fucking fucked up part about it my mom have been taking bipolar medicine for the last 15 years, I think. It never told me.

Same here. My dad the same way. I'm like, bro. I'm up at McLean Hospital, and they say I'm bipolar. I said, I ain't know. They asked me, ain't nobody in my family bipolar?

I'm like, no, ain't nobody bipolar. My mom's like, yeah. I've been taking this medicine since you was in the seventh, sixth grade. I'm like, bro, why haven't you think, why did you not have the audacity to fucking tell me this? Probably half of my life would have been a lot better if I knew that.

I already know I'm already fucked up, but if I knew that I had something wrong and I could kind of grab it, you know what I mean, and get it under control, I think that I would have been ten times better than what I am right now. Because, all right, I know I have an issue. Then I know what triggers it, you know what I mean. But if you don't know that, man, it's a lot of people that's from the hood and the inner city that parents are taking different meds

and they're not telling their kids what they're taking. Or they've been diagnosed before and never tell their kids they've been diagnosed. If I can say anything to any parent, man, be honest with your kids. is open dialogue of any mental or any health diagnosis or situations that you have because it might not sound like a big thing, but shit lingers down. It's like almost 85% if your parents got it, you're going to have it. But first, I think it starts with, with i mean there's a stigma around mental health right so first they don't feel comfortable sharing it with their children because they haven't accepted it first right damn you talking about i'm borderline i'm bipolar i'm living with

anxiety or depression if i tell you if i tell, they're going to look down on me. Right? So, like, I think it starts first. I think there are some parents out there that need to disclose that and talk about those things. But I think it really, really really stigmatizes people accepting that there's 320 million Americans, give or take a few, and fucking almost 120 is living with something. Right? And you don't even have to have a diagnosis to actually have your life be a living hell. Like, you could just be dealing with stress.

You could be just dealing with marital challenge. You could be dealing with just work problems. You got laid off. What are you going to do? How are you going to cope with that? That's right. I know you fellas got to go, so we got to ask a couple of questions.

Football season this year. Who do you think is going to take it this year? Cowboys, baby. Cowboys? He a cowboy, but he say that every year. I've been couple of questions. Football season this year. Who do you think is going to take it this year? Cowboys, baby. Cowboys? He a cowboy fan. He say that every year. I'm consistent. Do you really think they're going to beat the Eagles?

No. Hell no. I think the Eagles is going to go to the Super Bowl. I think the Eagles. Man, the Super Bowl? I think the Eagles. What about the Bills? People have been saying the Bills.

Eagles do look good, though. I think the Bills lose to my Bengals. He said your pick is the Eagles, Bengals, Super Bowl. Eagles, Bengals, Super Bowl. Okay, okay. What do you say, Brandon? I'm going to go with Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos. That's right. Yeah, I'm going to go with them

boys, and then I'm going to go with the Rams to go back. I really want Todd Bowles, head coach of the Jets for a while when I was playing, I want him to get his with Tom Brady. But I think it's going to be the Rams and it's going to be the Broncos. What do you think of Brady's decision to come back after retiring? Think he should have left?

Think it should have been a wrap? You think it's going to be like the Jordan when Jordan came back? Win the 45? I want to see. He should have left after the seventh ring. He should have left. That's ring. He should have left. That's it. Go out on top.

Yeah, I felt like it was impulsive. Felt like it was something deeper. You know what I'm saying? Like, he always said I'm going to play until I'm 45

or this age or whatever. You know what it really was, bro. I know what it is. He got home. He was around. He said, oh, fuck this. I got to get my ass

back to work. And when y'all had to work, you had to go back. Oh, hell no. She doing too much. I'm going to be gone for numb days. With an Iron Athlete live show. Y'all got a tour this weekend, right? Yeah, that's right.

Talk to them, B. No, I mean, I think this is the first time. I mean, we trying to get in y'all lane. And, you know, what you guys been doing is legendary, right? Like you guys, you know, have this amazing place and culture. And, you know, now you're seeing athletes do it more. And I think the next step for us is to connect with our audience. So going live is special.

How many times do we get texts and tweets where it's like, yo, I wish I was there. Can I come pull up on the show, right? So this is our opportunity to do it, September 10th. We're going to make an announcement. We got a couple local big-time athletes coming and, you know, an artist. So it's going to be cool. And where is it? It's at City Winery.

Okay. So it's at City Winery. You go to citywinery.com. You go to our IMathlete Instagram page, hit the link, and everything is right there where you can get your seat. We only got about 20 more tickets now. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be nice. Y'all got to come back, man, and build some more when y'all got some more time.

Yeah, whenever y'all can tell, hold up. For sure. Appreciate y'all. This is Brandon Marshall. This is Pac-Man Jones. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country?

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