The Breakfast Club - Perspektives With Bank Exclusive: What Happened To The Streets feat. 21 Savage

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

In this special episode of Perspektives With Bank, Big Bank sits down with 21 Savage just ahead of his new album release for an unfiltered conversation about the evolution of street culture and the shifting dynamics of hustling in the digital age. They explore how the streets have changed over time, the decline of traditional street credibility, and the impact of the internet on authenticity, relationships, and public perception. 21 Savage reflects on conflict resolution, the randomness of street life, and the pressure artists face while navigating fame and survival. The discussion digs into the complexities of snitching, the role of ego in the rap industry, and how today’s culture views loyalty and betrayal differently than past generations. Big Bank and 21 also examine the need for a new code of conduct in both the streets and the music industry—one focused more on discipline and hustling than on violence. The episode covers the evolution of hip hop, the cultural protection around certain artists, and the competitive dynamic between heavyweights like Drake and Kendrick Lamar. 21 Savage opens up about his journey, his regrets, his dreams, and the importance of talent over image in shaping long-term success. The conversation is a raw, introspective look at survival, growth, and the responsibility artists carry as leaders of the culture.  Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below. Rate, subscribe, comment and share. Follow Perspektives With Bank on IG @perspektiveswithbank @21SavageYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's get straight to it. What happened to the streets, man? What are we doing? You know I ain't got no intro and all that shit for you. What are we doing? Why I can't get an intro? You ain't never seen me do no intro. I'm saying why I can't be the first one?

I'm gonna ask you. Hey, how are you feeling, my brother? I'm all right. About to drop the night. Yeah. Nerv. I'm nervous. You look nervous.

How? No, you're excited, though? Yeah, I'm excited. Doing number. That's fucking hard, bro. I want to see what they do. I want to see what they do. I'm excited to see, like, how they take it.

Who I talked to about my publishing? Like, niggas just called me, like, for the Drake album. Nobody gave me name when I was on that job. For real? Yeah. Mr. Pah, are you, like, what, $2,500? Anything. I got you.

Okay, just sit there anything. I got you. I think you got to sign up with some shit. You guys sign up for like DMG or ASCAP, yeah. No, I just talk shit like that. I just got a little bad guy. That shit is some public. It's going to be some money, though.

But my name ain't on, no. I signed off on shit. Your name ain't on what? On the album? On my shit? On brush shit. On y'all shit, but you're in great deal? Like as a feature?

Uh-uh. That don't mean you don't get, you don't get no published? We'll figure. I'm a hush about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How you feeling though? I'm all right. What happened to the street?

What made you night and a half on that? Street dead. It's fucked up. I'm saying, no, ma'am. You still had a little hope like the street, still. I'm not telling you all that two years ago. I was saying the principles and morals that we learned in the streets never die. That's my point was to you when we was talking about that.

What you mean? How they never die when they're gone? Nobody's up holding it. Yeah, but that, okay, so if every nigger started jumping off cliffs, you're going to jump off a cliff? No, I'm going to get out of the way and let them keep jumping. But you're not going to jump, though. Let me tell you something.

I'm asking. It's a yes or no. It's a better than you is still there. Right. That's what you said. But they're not still in the streets though. Right. But that don't mean that you don't hold on to what's embedded than you.

Because that make you a follower if you, just because the streets ain't the same, you start moving how niggas is moving and you know in your heart that it's wrong. So that the streets can be dead. But that don't mean that morally and my principles are going to. Yours not. But are the principles and the morals going from? the streets. No, I wouldn't say they gone. I say niggas f*** up when they started letting the internet having a pin on what goes on

in the streets. That's what that's what that's what made it look like. See, now it's just one. Back in the day, nigger, growing up, I didn't know what the bank was doing. I knew he was a street nigger, but all I know was he's a street nigger from my side of town and they made music and shit. So I couldn't really have no opinion on. on what they had going on, whether it was right, wrong, who was telling, who wasn't telling,

none of that shit. Now it's like, niggas, and I ain't saying, because I rap about street shit, but I don't rap about, like, specific shit. Like, niggas start, niggas really snitching on their self and their music type shit, like, saying certain shit. So now, when these internet detectives, like, go and put one plus one and doing all that, now they put your shit out there that fuck will be count on point too

sometimes sometimes most of the time that shit be capped though because I didn't see shit about me like man what the fuck me too you know what I'm saying yeah but a lot of this shit be sounding good though

it sounds like a story it's content it's gonna consume content yeah nigga my grandma in Jamaica I was I was got down but she was really making the joke though but we telling I forgot

we was watching it was this old show like an old TV show like when my mom of them was growing up called like ER but it was about a Jamaican hospital or how fucked up it was and shit like they drilling a nigga head with a goddamn black and deck

a screwdriver like to put a you know like when you get the love what's the shit called I don't know what it's called but like a helmet like the screws in your head oh yeah yeah so got down

my grandma sitting on the couch we in Jamaica though she's telling me like that shit's fake basically Like, she's saying that's fake. Cut it off. And so, God, damn, she pulled up some shit on her phone. And this shit say, like, Donald Trump, he did some crazy, like, shit that he didn't do.

So I'm like, man, grandma, that's fake. She's like, that's fake too type shit. But it's content. So she basically showing me, like, what make you believe that? Why I can't believe this if you believe that type shit. You know what I'm saying? So you basically believe. I'm believing that they're really screwing his head.

She don't believe it. I still believe it. But most of this stuff do come from real life, though. Right. But this is a TV show, though, is what my point is. It's content. So her point is, why can I say this is fake? Why can't I say what you watching on the TV is fake?

If I can pull up some on my phone right now, that look, just as real as that. But it's fake, and we both know it's fake type shit, basically. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, no. So basically what I was saying was, okay, niggas let the internet start having an opinion on streets when they don't post to have no opinion on it because they never been in it or they're not, they never participated in that type of shit. So the internet don't post to never dictate who did wrong in the streets, in my opinion, because you're not in the streets. You're saying basically like on one of those songs, you're just like, we're letting the nerd dictate how the streets feel.

Right. But when you do have a Just saying somebody that's From that or whatever Who solidified or whatever And have an opinion They can't really have no opinion The nurse can have their opinion

And say what they want to say Because they don't have no consequences To saying what they want to say You get what I'm saying Yeah But just say I ain't saying they can't have no opinion I'm saying

The general public Like I The shit that we're talking about Is music shit It's street shit That's tied to to niggas who make music and shit, right? Yeah.

Okay, that's cool because you're a public figure. If you dumb enough to goddamn say certain shit for the internet to know certain shit, then they should be able to have a routine. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But they're trying to act like these certain situations apply to everything in the street. That's where it becomes blurry.

And you got street niggas who like wake up and see some shit and got down, they would go with that narrative because this is what the narrative is on the internet. This is how most people feel on the internet. Most people are scared to go against the grain, is what I'm saying. So you got real street niggas who will wake up and read some shit. And this shit might say, got down.

Savage got down, whatever, whatever. Savage got down took the standing toll on 50 niggas of some shit. But this is a real street nigga. He didn't even see no black and white. But he sees this post guy got down, 50,000 comments. 50,000 light, man, that shit real. I ain't even listened to it. At the time, niggas scrolled on Instagram.

I'd be on Instagram in the bed, like, with my phone on silent. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so the audio ain't playing. I know niggas do that. Half the time, niggas are just scrolled and read the caption. And don't even listen to the audio. Yeah, yeah. And just keep scrolling.

And not in their mind. Shit, that's true. When they call their partner later, man, you seen that shit outside? Man, that nigger just told on 90 niggers. Ooh. If that's the caption, boy, I'm the nigger that's going to be spread it. I'm the kid going to listen to it. If I sees a shit, be like, man, a nigger face in that.

But it's content, though. Nah, but you said you saw fake shit about yourself. But I ain't never saw that kind of fake shit. Yeah, but you ain't really, you ain't no rapper or nothing, so a nigger ain't, niggas ain't attacking you. You ain't being attacked. You've never been attacked on the internet. Nigger, you ain't just been attacked on the internet.

Man, you barely, but I'll be Googling a lot of that shit. It's a lot, but they got a couple of them all pages, big bank, god, father of and all type of shit on internet. No, I'm saying attack as in, they're trying to tear you down. That's just, niggas just trying to make their own. story of your mystique because you have mystique. Yeah. So niggas is trying to tap in and like, damn, why everybody respect Bain?

Why everybody with Bain? So they want to go put some shit together and make a document. Niggas is making free documentaries. Yeah. They ain't winning there. No fact checking. They ain't talked to nobody that know you or none. They just putting their own narrative together.

That's not tearing you down though. If you was an artist and you was beefing with a certain, you know, you need some of these artists got crazy fan bases like they'll come kill your ass for this artist type of shit. So if you got goddamn 20,000 of them niggas typing all day some shit about you and in the street, nigga, so slow, nigga, I didn't have, bro, on my mama, bro. A nigger, my OG, like, big homie, nigga, he was following a fake page of me and walked upon me like, nephew, why you didn't follow me back, nephew? This shit, the page say 21 underscore, savage underscore fan page.

On my mama, bro. I'm dead serious. Like, on God. Like, aunt, you're saying he didn't need this page got nine followers, aunt, what the hell you, that ain't my page? But he really, like, probably felt some type of way all the time, like, man, nephew don't even follow me back.

He don't f*** up with me. Nick, this is a fan page. Yeah. So, God, have you given what I'm saying? No, for sure. But let me ask you some. When do we take this shit for feedback? Can we see, we wake up and see so much

that's true. How do we decipher? What's true? what's fake. You got to do your homework and do your research. When it comes to certain shit, like, like, goddamn shit that you know in your heart is serious, that'll make you look at a nigga another way. You got to go fact check and do certain shit. That's what I do. But I'm a nigga that I already kind of be kind of looking at niggas. Like, I'm going to tell you what, the worst thing it is. If somebody make a rumor, and this

fucked up on my part, I got to fix this. And you type a nigga be on my line like, you can't do that because I do. Like, if I already feel it, feel like you capable of that and I said, boy, it's true. But that's fucked up, though. It is. Because if a nigga did that to you, it'll be fucked up. I ain't tripping, though. Yeah, but you don't give a fuck about niggas, though.

You don't care to be around niggas anyway. So that's different. But that's what I'm saying. So you already, you are already like an isolated nigga anyway. So it makes sense why that's your outlook. But a nigga like me, I'd be around. What's trying to do with first? What happened?

What happened, bro? When you started being around at first, when you first came out, you ain't even fucking with niggas. How you started f***? We need's getting cool and shit. I don't know. I think it was a good thing for my life. I do too.

But I'm saying, how did it happen? Just getting bigger and just niggas fucking with me and shit. Just being in Atlanta for real. But did you ever see yourself like who you is now? Like as far as what, though? Just as cool as I am. Or are you talking about like the growth? Yeah, the growth.

I can't say I didn't because, nigger, this is what I did. did it for her. So, my niggas be like, hell no, I never pictured this shit. Yes, the fuck you did. What you pictured in? What you did you picture? You were going to sell three albums. The motherfuckers were going to sell 2,000 first week and then you was going to retire. You obviously pictured the biggest shit you can. But could you picture your mindset, though, changing. You know how we would be like, bro, I ain't never leaving hood. I ain't never, you know how this shit the dog shit. I ain't never been one of them niggas. But I'm just saying, you know how a nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, trapped in that mind.

Yeah, like thinking like, if I do this, I don't know. sold out type shit. Yeah, I say this. I say got down. I say, I was just talking to Harold and him last night about this. Got down. I'd say, if Johnny didn't die,

I don't think I would have been no rapper. So I probably wouldn't have pictured all this shit type shit. Because I know we would have hit a lick for about 500 bricks or something or something that would have just still made me a million now. I was going to be a million in the street. Regardless.

Regardless, so goddamn, I, if he didn't die, I would have never went to rap route type shit. So I could say back then, no, I didn't, I didn't picture it. But I understand why niggas mindset be that way because I was one of them niggas just in the hood all day, serving or whatever, just kicking it. And nigger just don't see outside of this shit. Like, nigger, my first time going to Buckhead, like on my own, nigga, I probably was 18, 19. Damn. You get what I'm saying? Like, nigga, I ain't never passed Mawlin unless I was going to another niggerhood.

Get some or get them some type shit. You get what I'm saying? So I understand why niggas mindset be like, because they, it's a trap. It's really a trap. It's a trap in many ways. If you think about it, like, nigga, this should have trapped because your ass going to die, go to jail.

It should have trapped because it keeps your mind right here. So you trap mentally. And then some niggas be physically trapped because they can't afford to leave and go nowhere. Do you get niggas grace that you love, that you came up with, that you know they still kind of, trapped in their mind, so I'm gonna get a little great, bro.

I get where you at, but you don't get where I'm at. It depends on what they're saying. Like, you're saying if a nigga talking shit or if a nigga... No, I'm just saying, like, just say Vincent, if all y'all together, right, you're trying to bring the whole hood out and the nigger see somebody, when you're out of town, nigga, and it'd be like, damn, bro, you're going to script a nigga on my favor, but I get where you, you know what I'm saying? You know how this shit goes because you can't contain everybody.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little man, me feeling to drop up back out. Those niggins been gone back to Buckhead and whatever they are. I don't got them type of friends. That is just a nigger gone, a nigger gone for show not do now while I'm right there. Not why you write that one of a nigger. I didn't know him for them. If I'm gone, I don't care.

But it's still on your face if you go on to that. Shit, fuck. If we ain't, I ain't cool with the nigger. I don't know the nigger. You can know the nigger. Are we cool, though? Do I care about him? What's cool and care of.

Oh, see, that's a misunderstanding. What's cool to care about? What do you mean? Like, do I have a relationship with this nigga? Do I highlight this nigga like, do he call me when he come here or do I call him when I go there? Are you talking about a nigga who just, I might, we're peers? I, look, you my man, right? Right.

One of your men do something, one of my men's. How that's all the work? You got to get that back. If this is your man. But who gains some back? Shit, your ass going to give it back or your ass going to find out the hard way. I respect that. That's like saying you don't care of a nigga smack me.

I ain't going to just force you to give it back for free. I'm gonna give you something because you didn't already did the work. Yeah. That's just me being a gentleman. Like, like, goddamn, I ain't gonna make you pay for it. Like, if it's my folks,

like, I ain't gonna be like, hey, bank, shit, they want this for it. I'm gonna just clean it up like here. Here y'all go a little, bro. Huh. Mm-hmm. They ain't no, what,

whatever, whatever. We'll figure that out. That's just gentleman's shit. But if it's a nigga, if it ain't, man, if it's a nigga like, who I just know a little bit, I ain't getting in that shit to that.

I ain't getting in that shit. Yeah. I don't want nothing. Don't copy you got nothing of that petty-ass shit. Because you just going to make it some old shit. So how do you maneuver with all these niggas, though? Like, we come from the street, bro, we got a bunch of niggas that feel as if, though,

bro, I got to be right now with you. Like, how do you maneuver that? And how do you decipher who right here, who right here, who right there? How do you do that shit? I think I went through that era younger. So now it's like, it's different now. Like, I feel like, all my brothers know how this shit go. So they don't overly be trying to be around.

Like, they just, nigger better not play with them. Yeah. Bro, I know how to move. He knows how to carry itself. Like, certain shit, of course, all my niggas are going to be their birthday parties, an album or shit like that. But for the most part, niggas just be, they got kids, families. They're doing what they got to do to goddamn take care of their folks.

and got down. We talk whenever we talk and kick it whenever we kick it. But it ain't like no overly. And I'm not really no nigger who just be out everywhere all the time anyway. So half the time I'm in the house. So, got down.

I think Atlanta, this is what I think. This is how I really feel. I feel like Atlanta is really got down. What's the word? Atlanta really a pedophile. Because Atlanta really groomed us birth since we was kids. The fuck.

No, just listen to what I'm saying. Maybe pedified the worst word. Let's say, TJ. Maybe pedified the wrong word. Atlanta is a grooming-ass city. Okay. Atlanta groomed us, nigga, since we was 10, Alabama 12 on club life, bro.

Like, nigga, when I was a lamb nigga on my mama, I was taking out trash for $2 in apartments. The Cater Escape? Just to get some chucks and some dickies to go to the Cater Escape. Getting wristband, goddamn, nigga. used to have pictures with no liquor, you just get a pitcher of Sprite. So your ass getting groomed for the club

from you got down in middle school. So now when you got down 30, man, nigga, I've been going to the club since I was 11, 12 years old. Bro, f*** the club. You get what I'm saying? Atlanta groomed a nigga, bro. So I'm saying like,

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Them the most dangerous, though. I ain't saying you were dangerous, no, I ain't trying to take that phone. I ain't saying, I'm just saying, don't let them take that ass got down. I think got down. But I'm the same way, though. I know. I know. Like, people are there even know, like, hell now.

That's what I'm saying. We some hell-n-all-ass-n-n-n-n-knit. what I'm saying. Look, you drop the bike, can you still hear him, bro? But yeah, I got down. I don't know what, I think what made me jump in the street

with just my circumstances. I feel like I was forced in the street because I couldn't do nothing else. I ain't got no green card. I can't get no job. So how the hell is that is whether I going to survive? Yeah.

You feel what I'm saying? I don't feel like I jumped in the street. I feel like I was kind of like forced. Nika, we got down moved to Atlanta, nigger. My mama had me, my little sister. I'm right. She had four kids.

Like, she, we had a room, man. We were staying in Tima Trace. We had a roommate, nigger. My mama and my stepdaddy, which really was like my daddy growing up, slept on the bottom bump, and we slept on the top bump. Then got down, we moved across the street to these other apartments. We had a two bedroom. They in one room, all the kids in one room. Got down and we moved to another apartment and the boys got down.

got there on them and the girls got there on them. But by that time, it was six kids and I got down three-bedroom apartment. You know what I'm saying? So I'm already knowing in my head, like,

just being like a young, smart nigga, like, what, money thing? Hell, I'm the oldest. Right. So I got to do something that got down. If I want these shoes,

I've been asking my mama for a pair of Air Force Ones for four months. She can't afford them. I'm going to get me some weed, sell a little weed, take out trash. sell Kool-Aid in school, sell candy in school.

I'm doing all that. You get what I'm saying? I feel like being a hustler is what put me in the streets. When do you think you got fascinated with the streets, though? I think I always been fascinated. Because my mama was telling me, bro, when I was got down three and four, she used to buy me oozy cap guns and shit. Like, as a little boy, I don't God.

It's pictures that my mama showed me why I'm throwing up guns and doing like this and shit as a little boy. You know, it's a difference between a street nigger, a hustler, and a street, street nigger. This is how I defy it. I say it's a hood nigger, a hustler, and a street nigger. Okay, breaking out with you. A hood nigger, your ass just from the hood. Okay.

So you know how certain shit go, but you ain't ever did nothing. What I said, a hustler, you want to get you some money, but she ain't with no drama, no bullshit. You ain't trying to do nothing to nobody and you don't want nobody to do nothing to you. Screet nigger, you're going to do all of it. Anything goes. Yeah.

I agree with that. So what you think, what you were? A street nigger, for sure. Did you start off a hustling? Yeah, I started off a hustling. Yeah. Because hustling was cool when I was 13, 14. Yeah.

This jeezzy Gucci era. You know what I hate though. And it's all said. You know what I hate now that young niggas. Back in the day, y'all niggis introduced, they said like, What's so, OG, I'm ready to get some money. I want to get some money. Now, young nigga, well, what's the OG?

I'm with that. I'm with, I'm with, I'm going to say. I'm ready to smack some. That's a difference. That's why the street's dead. Why? Because ain't no money in. Nigger don't want no money?

Because niggas killed the streets. Everybody dead. And it ain't no money in it. When I was a young nigga, bro, the first thing I wanted to do in the streets was get some money. That was my whole motive of being in the streets. Yeah. I ain't even care about guns. and none of that shit.

So I'm getting a Samma weed for $20, knicking this shit up and got damn Nick bags, what they were, like, $125 by $125,000. Getting them from the stove, that's back when the store used to sell the scale and the bags. Right now.

The carpentry too. And you had to make sure they calibrated that motherfucker because sometimes they'll give you an uncalibrated enough f***. So, goddamn, that was my whole setup. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah.

So I'm getting the SIM, breaking this motherfuck and out. I ain't standing in front of the store at nothing. going to school. You know, it might be little folks in the neighborhood who just know that nigga bad, like, buy your weed just because, all that type of shit. Damn, niggas start selling dope, nigh, and a three-gram hunt, a whip. You know what I'm saying?

Then that was the thing. Then I started goddamn selling dope and soft. So I'm getting goddamn three grounds of soft. I'm going to the GNC store, putting got down .5 of isotol on the soft. Not even knowing what I'm doing, but shit, I just hear Gucci's isotone, isotol, isotol, so I'm I'm isotol in my shit, too. Nigger had Henning like, man, that shit made me, giving me a bad dream.

I'm standing up with these nigger. All my mama, I've been in the colony, nigger. I had a partner who snorted, right? Got down. So they'll shoot dice and shit. And it was a nigga from the west side that used to be out there too. And it was another nigga.

We used to call him Nacho, man, because his baby mama made the nacho, like she was like the Candleys. So got down. Nick, I'll be outside in the place. with them niggas to sell them in the morning, them niggas to buy my whole bomb assault, like just all night type shit.

So that was the first, my first, like, I'm hustling. It was about money. Now, niggas don't want to do nothing. It ain't even no money in the street for real, unless you plan on a certain level type shit. It ain't none. It's money in the street. If you plan on a certain level.

But you have to wait. The grinder don't exist no more. That's what the difference is. So that's why, nigger, the, The cons always outweigh the pros of the street. If you ass can go to jail, or you can die, you can get robbed. But it was worth it because you can get some real money. You can grind up.

Right. You can get some money. Now, your ass can't go buy nothing and come up off no block nowhere. It's probably, it's probably two hoods in Atlanta that you can just really block serve for real. You get what I'm saying? And grind for real. But you can't, you can't, as a young nigga, you can't grind them up. The young niggas, it's really like an oxymoron.

Is that what it's called? Oxymor where some shit just don't make sense. Got-down, nigger, you signing up for some shit to only die or go to jail. Back in the day, you were signing up the shit. Get some money. Might die, might go to jail. Now you only signing up to die or go to jail. Back in the day, you're going to get some money before you do one or the other.

Before you die, go to jail, nine times ten, you're going to get some money. Yeah. It's like... But the cons still outweigh the pros back then, too. Again, too. That's what I'm saying. Now, I'm saying it ain't no pros. It's nothing but cons. Back then, it was like, all right, it's some pros to this shit. But the cons is kind of higher, though, because if they catch your ass, they're going to do it to you. But goddamn now, nigger, there's no pros at all. Nigel, you're literally getting in the street to die or go to jail. Niggas don't even, nah, that's crazy. I was just thinking about that on the way here. Niggas don't even introduce their self as, shit, I'm ready to get some money. I'm ready to smack something. I'm ready to smack something, bro. You need a smacker. Oh, God.

Like, hell, no, nephew. How do we change that? You can't. You can't. How? What, you're going to grow, like, gross more crackheads? Don't what I'm saying? For real, because we eat so cheap.

Changed me as buying six. You can't even really break down, sir, for real. A nigga that's buying a $3.5 won the same price that if he was buying a bag. A bad, yep. So if you charging $2,200 for a bag, whatever that equal a lot, $2.45, that's a $1. what a nigga want to pay for that three five. That one thing you do.

Hey, I'm up for them bad, man. Shit, bro. $1,200. What shit? Give me a, give me a, um, Q-Zil. Yeah, for the same price of the, no, bro.

That shit goes off. Like, I got to bust this motherfucker open. Put it back in the vacuum and sit. I got to charge you just for that. You're making a nigga work. You want to pay the same price. You got to think, man, I know this street shit is over with,

bro. It's over with because it ain't no money. Niggas is these. Niggas scared to get the money with the young nigg. Remember y'all came on to this spot? Y'all was a house full of young people.

I see, I see, you know, who's selling what? First thing, I see, I see all these guns in here. I don't want to know who doing what with the gun. Who getting some, who's trying to get some money? Nigger won't sell nothing. Niggas. Niggas sell out of these bullets. You can try to trade, po.

It was a couple niggas doing the list. But I'm just saying, like, it ain't even, niggas ain't even trusting that no more. Like, you find a nigga bag or saving you find a nigga bag. He's gonna go say that bad for the same price you front into him for to have some money in the pocket. So basically it's fuck you off back.

Right. Soon as you get it to him is like... Nigger running off. It ain't even like you running off. You just broke his hair. Yeah. And I already owe my baby mama so I'm gonna go ahead and...

You're in the hole. You getting this bag already in the hole more than what this bag costs. So a nigga can be mad at you? You ain't never pay rent with your baby and mama ever. You ain't never had to put no food in the house because she got food stamps.

You ain't got... but 10 outfits, five pair of shoes. So, y'all ass in the hole. So when you get this bad, that's $3,200 or whatever it is, goddamn. You would be a fool to make $200 off of it and give a nigga $3,200. That's over. The math don't even make sense. You'd rather him be mad, d'a, bitch.

Right. You just want to show your bitch, I'm a man at this point. Who fucked it up? Well, when did it fuck up? What, the street? Yeah, this is why I always ask, when did it fuck up? Like, when did it go left? I feel like with time, everything changes.

So I feel like it was eventually going to happen. Because just think about it like this, like I... It's always been a drug that was in high demand. So in the 60s and the 70s, Harron had his fallout. Then you had goddamn, because you got to think, ain't nobody stupid, bro. So if you were a child and you was born in the 70s,

And your mama got down, died of an overdose. You know to stay away from heroin. So that shit spread. Then they wore on drugs. Everybody against heroin. Woo-woo. So now niggas know, like, no, I ain't going to do heroin. That's a bad drug.

That shit makes you look like a j. All right, cool. Cocaine come. Cocaine ain't never really made niggas look like no jay. So cocaine always, you're rich people. At first, that shit was like a goddamn rich people drug. So cocaine and weed are more like social drugs. Okay, but then you had crack cocaine

And you see crack cocaine Auntie teeth missing She never took a shower Used to be fine Used to be fine Unct used to have bricks He started smoking this shit Now he's at work on cars

And sit at the store And nephew give me 50 cents So now we know as y'all niggas Why ain't smoking crack So that fade out You don't got no new demand It ain't like you got people That's turning 17 like

I finally left my mom's house I'm smoking crack Nobody doing that. So naturally, for real. So naturally, nigga, the demand go down. Yeah. So now with our era, nigga, you've got to think from the 80s

to the late 2000s, nigga, crack was the drug and bricks and shit was like, them was the, it's always been weed, too. Before weed. Yeah, but not like, not, nigga ain't no, nigga made no Frank Lucas money. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.

Nick ain't made no Frank Lucas, no, 200 million off no goddamn heroin. since the back then. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. They weren't running how they were running like that. And then Serms, Heron was really, certain cities really had it fucked up on Heron.

Atlanta had this one little pocket of the city where Heron really was just like, all right of the Heron shit go on. But goddamn, you, major cities and shit was really like, well, New York, the whole Brooklyn on Heron, like, everybody, like, line wrapped around, you know what I'm saying? So what I'm saying is, got down. Crack was the drug that, you know, that all the 80s babies, late 70s babies, that was they grind.

That was they come up. Like, well, I went from got-down buying the goddamn zip to buying a nine to buying two bricks and so on and so forth. We don't have that. Our generation didn't have that. I was the last of the, you can fake, sir, sell some dope and make some way. But you said the pill, these niggins are taking them.

But the pill's so high and got down. A nigga ain't trusting no nigga who got 5,000 pills. If you, if you, if you, if you're a street, if you're a kingpin in the street and you tell a nigger you got 10,000 purse, a niggins going to be like, well, that nigger got too much fettinol on them purse, right? Ain't nobody buying them purse. So, so the, the pharmaceutical hustle is only like, it's like an individual hustle. Like, it can't be like a large-scale operation kingpin shit. Yeah. Because you can't just go get this shit like that.

And it's regulated by the government. Niggas ain't trust unless they're coming out in the pharmacy. Exactly. Yeah. And you got all these overdoses going on with folks taking fake perks and shit. So a nigga down there want to see your name on a prescription for their body, you know what I'm saying? And that's regulated. That's not like a black market drug.

Heron, weed is regulated kind of, but in certain states it's illegal, so you can't, they can't regulate. But heroin, cocaine, all that shit, it ain't regulated because it's illegal. You think that's what's making, like, the rap gang crowd and everybody want to rap because of it. There ain't no room in the street, ain't ain't going on in the street. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like our era of rappers, we was the first era of rappers to where niggas knew more, way more, that, okay, these niggas are authentic. See, like the previous era, like, if you're not from the east side of Atlanta, you really not

going to know Gucci really used to be taking niggas shit, slapping niggas head. trapping, you ain't gonna really know that. But you kind of knew because of the shit he caught with the self-defense shit, but got down, for the most part, it's just like, growing up, that shit was a, I used to think BMF was like fake, I ain't even think that shit was real, because I ain't never seen none of that shit in L.M. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. But our era was the first era where it's like, niggas really believe us, I think, like a little more. Like they really bought into, nah, these. These niggas some street niggas for real. This niggas are a street nigga for real. Like, ooh-wee. So I feel like that inspired the niggas in the hood, the younger niggas to like, shit.

Bro, daddy, I can rap. Let me see. Gucci. Jesus. T-I. T-I. I think niggas. Yeah, for sure.

Niggas think that. I ain't going to think them nigger was like. I ain't saying niggas didn't think. I'm saying it's not as hard. It's not as like, boy, boy, that nigger was a street nigger for real. No, you, when y'all, you got to somewhere actually be a street, nigga. Right. No, see, like, then you could be kind of on the fence.

Like, we don't know, we kind of, he kind of, his mom in them, I'm saying. You don't never know. It wasn't as bad. I think, now, that's a good point. You had to be. Right. Now, like, now that you tell you time, you got to be like, shit. Who do them, what, them niggins are done?

Right. That's the first thing I'm a nigga say. Man, who the, what do you know? No, nah, nigger don't he say what they done or none that. The first thing, nigga, say, oh, oh, they like that? Yep. They like that? Yep.

You said, young nigga walk up. I don't like that, oh, G. That's what the nigga gonna say. They're like that. They're probably like that where they're from. So now it's like, that's why I said the internet and the street shit. Because guess who asking if they like that? It ain't the streets.

It's the internet. Yep. See what I'm saying? Yeah. It wasn't no internet for niggas to question Gucci or T.I. Authenticity back then. We didn't, the fan didn't have a voice. The fan got a voice now.

Back then you didn't really have a voice. And it was more of a machine. have a machine. Whatever the label pumping and pushing shit, nigga where else you're going to go

listen to some music at, we control the radio, we control where CDs get printed up, we control goddamn wet videos come on the TV.

You don't really, you really didn't have a choice on what music you listen to right then because there was only so many options. You think the internet

can destroy a nigga up? Hell yeah. A thousand percent. The fans got the voice. How can they have to? How do you not? get destroyed from the internet.

I don't think they can destroy you if you just keep on. Hey, I'm not saying destroy you to the point where you go from 100 to zero, but they can take your ass from 100 to 40, 50. For sure. Overly. Quit, too. Quick. Oh God.

Let the wrong narrative get the going about you. I'm God. But I'm saying, what about the niggas who fight through them narrative, though? Because you got some niggas that fight through them narrative. Them niggas still ain't getting no money like that like they was. Still ain't getting no money like they was. ain't get no money like that way like the rap way who we've been wearing lace fronts and shit who did the nigger who told in new york man who told all them all them niggas in new york the mexican oh you say

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Like, bro, certain shit happens And maybe it took a toll of you Like Kanye, right? Let's say Kanye, for example They've been trying to tear him down for a hell You can't tell certain nigga down It don't matter what the narrative is. But I feel like his tear down is divided.

I don't think it was overall Like most people agree. His shit always been 50-50. That's the difference. See, when Buddy did what he did, I think he was the first snitch that like went viral and shit I ain't trying to be funny

I'm saying I'm talking about as an artist bro I'm talking about as an artist as a as a lit rapper he was the first rapper that in the internet era snitched bro and it was public as hell and he got out

he tried to still act like I snitched so what I'll kill everybody still and they're like man shut up and his shit went down and he ain't recuperated he gave up I think if he would just shut up and just didn't need to be like... Nobody would have wanted to hear that shit, bro.

Somebody. It's a lane for everybody, man. I'm saying, I'm not saying he at zero, but I'm saying his ass at like 20. So, of course, he could drop some shit and he could still rapping shit for sure. But, nigga, he was on top of the world before that shit. Yeah. He was one of the most legalists. They were demortizing for at first, like. No, they won.

They was on his ass. Everything he posted, they have a thousand rap emojis up under. But I think that shit is getting, it's getting easier to tell now. I think, I think got down. Hmm. It's getting easier to tell. And bound back and still be like, you'll be all right. Because nobody really didn't give a fuck about it.

I can agree with that. Because I don't give a fuck. Who told no more like, because this shit turned into the hater. Just imagine about the nigger, bank, the nigger the conversations we have on the phone. Bro. I wouldn't be on, I wouldn't be perspective with bank. I'll be blackball. I don't think it'll be blackball.

Yes, I will. Because everybody who really control shit, fuck with you. No, bro. But a lot of them been doing some little slick shit, too, that I have to call out. They won't be calling out a lot of shit, bro. I just feel like that's because you know who you are and your morals and principles. So it's certain shit that you won't speak on on camera because of who you are. It ain't because, God damn, you don't want people to know how you feel.

It's just like, nigger, and you have relationships with certain niggas. So it's like, I respect our relationship. Even if I ain't f***ing with you, nigga, I respect our relationship more than to go on the internet and dog you out. So that's the difference. But even people that I don't know that I see, like, I remember one time you and live a cop on that, like, bro, you got to start speaking on the current types. I'm like, no, bro, because I can't accept. Save it as about to save my real mind how I feel about some shit that happened, some shit in New York or something.

Right. I don't, like, what we come from, where you say certain shit by niggas, and however they feel, you got to stand on that. Yeah, a nigger's standing on it. No, but I'm saying, I ain't trying to stand on that right now. You ain't trying to defend yourself? No, I ain't trying to even nothing. Because I ain't trying to.

I don't know what I feel like that too. I ain't, you know what I don't know. I don't know. I don't know it, because I already know it's going to turn back on me. Oh, God. Nigger going to be the bad guy. Yes. On God.

But I'm going to be the bad guy off my opinion of a nigga. Right. To me, that's some whole ass shit. But a nigga I ain't going to see you. I'll be trying to be seen, though. A nigga ain't going to do shit. I don't want to see if they're going to do that because I'm going to do something.

Oh, God. So I don't even want to be in that situation. Like, I know if I'm going to be like, just say things, how these niggas be on the internet, all that shit with these niggas. They ain't going to call their name. All that shit they be doing. And then they leave in office when I see you.

And they left off of that. So when I see you, bro, that's the last thing we said. How are they pulled to go? I don't understand that part of the internet. Yeah, so that's why I did it. But it depends how you saying, though. Like, if you saying, okay. Like, clubhouse.

Like, you did this. I don't agree with this. That's cool. But if you're saying, bitch-eyed, pussy, nigga, you did this, woo-woo. No, but if I say that, listen, I could be being humbly correct and saying, like, I just don't agree with that. And he could get online to be like, oh, bitch, y'-a-woo. Now that, what's my next response? God on your side, because you're playing defense.

You wasn't, you what, you, you, you, you, you, you, I ain't telling you, I ain't telling you to do nothing. But I'm just saying, this is my, my, my, my perspective on that situation. Yeah. God's going to be on your side because you didn't start shit. You just gave your opinion on some shit everybody else on the internet talking about. But to me, it wasn't malice. My voice is so different, though. If I say, you can say something, no, not you. Somebody else can say something.

And a nigga take it for a like, shit, yeah. But if I say something, they knowing who, who, who can hear it. If that makes sense, what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, Joe Bunn can say some shit by any one of y'all. Yeah. Y'all be like, shit. That Joe Bunn, man, they ain't thinking about Joe.

Bank said! Yeah, but that's because we have relationships. Not even, just you. Anybody. It could be any other rapper, bro, just me. I don't think that about any other rapper. Shit, I do. But, matter of fact, I feel like that ain't even your cloth.

That's why I'm trying to tell y'all. So I agree with you. We was wrong for trying to tell you to do that shit. Because it could be a whole other rapper. They just look at it like, bro, you're from the street, so you know. him. Right. That's how niggas look at it. Like, okay, these nerds or whatever, whoever said whatever, they don't know the code that we're supposed to stand on. So, but you know,

you're saying that and it's niggas that's like savage and the other street, nigga, be like, shit, we would be, whatever he's saying, he might be tripping, but we're with him. He's right. Right. You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't want that pressure. Yeah. But that's a hard thing to do trying to be a journalist. This thing we called my phone Hey, Joe This nigga called my phone Like, oh, like the way

That nigga said In the interview Hey, bro, you want me to get in the fight With one of my guests Or some shit Like, why are you talking like that? Yeah, and stop saying a nigga like that Tone that shit down a little bit

That shit's sounding a little Stress-like Nig got to get too spiky Like that. So you say You, y'all, let's take it back to when y'all first got here, bro. Y'all came. You said it was you, your mama, your sister's.

My, my pops. Yeah. Not your biological father, but you know. Yeah, my stepdad, yeah. But you said some more people came with y'all too, though, right? Yeah. Like, my mama, like some couples' friends type of shit. Like, they're a couple, they're a couple, they're a couple,

but they all cool, grew up with each other type shit. Yeah, let's go, too, man. Yeah. So when y'all got here, you said you jumped out of poor, the first person you met with skinny. Yeah. Lonely is Skinny. Damn, where is it?

Yeah, no, no. No, it went. No it went. No it went. It was Chuck. Skinny was my first best friend. Okay. All right, boom.

So when we first moved here, we moved to Hamburg. We stayed in the apartments called Park Run. That was a car from Polo Club. Uh-huh. And it was a nigga named Chuck. He had hella brothers and shit. Yogi. I forget his other brother of them name,

but I stayed in 500, 500 build and they stayed at the end building type shit. So that was like my first friend. That was like, what, second grade of some shit. Then when we moved to Lake Tree, got down, that's when I met Skinny. Skinny stayed right up under me, literally right up under me type shit. What skin was on in for a middle? Bad.

Bad as a mother. Then he wasn't, you know, them kids where I got down, he the youngest, but his, his next closest sibling, 15 years older than him. Oh, yeah. So he wanted them badass kids. Like, his mama don't play that shit, though. But when he leave her house, he's doing all kinds of shit. That nigga was already smoking and all that shit, like, when I first met him.

And he, like, what, two years older to me? So if I was in like, was he smoking though? He, yeah, picking shit up out the ground, smoking it, picking up black and miles out the ground and shit. So if I was in third grade, he would probably in fifth grade or sixth grade type of shit. Yeah, I think he said picking up. Yeah, he was in middle school. was in middle school, I was in third grade, he was already in middle school.

How was Skinny where? Skinny, like, like, three years older than me or some shit? Like, he ain't, if he might be two, no, he two years older than me. Oh, middle school sick, right? I'm thinking about high school school. No, but I, but the way our birthday set up got down, I think, you know what I'm saying, I think either my birthday late or his birthday late. So it made it like he was three grade, two years older than me, but three grades high

than me type shit. Do you, like, it's like dumb now. 10 niggas we probably can name your unlaw since you been here, right? Right. If not more. That's like close, close niggas. Do that make you feel as if though like survivors or mores or feel like you just chosen like sheds for me? Uh, no, I don't really think that deep about that shit.

I just believe in like cause and effect type shit. What you mean? I feel like goddamn, if I'm sitting next to a nigger. a nigger that I don't like, and I pull this trigger and the bullet hit his head and hit the wrong shit, he's going to die. I don't think God was like, it's your time to die, son. I just feel like the bullet went through his head and hit the wrong shit and he died type shit.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. But I don't believe in cause and effect. I don't feel like God was like, got down or the most high was like, shit, I'm from care got down 15 of your closest friends and leave you alive alive because you're chosen. I don't look at shit like that. I look at it like certain situations happen and my brother's lost their life. And I went through shit too and I just, I didn't get hit in the same spots they got hit and got down.

That's why I'm still here type of shit. Nah. This is why I feel like this, though, because, nigga, this is on my mama. When I first got shot, right? And me and my mama had a house together and shit. Me, her and her last baby daddy, my little sister daddy, right? So got down. After I got shot, we was in the kitchen.

I had some act in the kitchen. I used to keep out my pints in the cabinet and shit. So I'm pulling up. She like got down. She like, um, what she said? She said got down. Do you not feel like, do you feel like this happened for a reason? Do you feel like you made it through this for a reason?

And I was like, why you say that? She was like, got down because Cheney got shot way less times than you. And he didn't make it. And I was like, no, I was like, my belief in science and cause and effect. Like I don't believe like shit happens because it's. supposed to be like a part of my story or like, I don't think that. I think it's just we go through life, living life, and we make certain decisions and certain things happen and people lose their life, you get what I'm saying? And some people make it through and some people lose their

life later or whatever the case may be. And God, damn, she was like, I don't think so. I think somebody is looking over you. I think somebody got their hand on you. And I said, I said, mind. I'm not telling you not to think like that. But why we don't get that same energy to chickens and cows and shit that we eat there a day? Like, why do we not question, like, did this cow why just goddamn dad die to be a steak for a chosen purpose? Just real shit, though. Just think about it, though. Not on no funny shit. Just on some real. That's murder. That's all my partners died from murder. No, no, I'm going to get what the same. But we just, We, we, um,

not from no beef shit. All my partners died on licks and shit. I'm saying, but people, most people that eat states and all that shit that y'all be eating, you know what I'm saying? That's, that's, that's sinning. Right. I'm not saying it ain't sinning it.

But I'm saying, why don't we put that same thought into their life? No, what I'm saying is we all chose the streets, right? Right. We all chose the street. No matter if we say we got pushed in or whatever, because we could have done anything. Right.

We could have got that sold can for ever. I'm saying, All the people that chose the streets with us didn't make it through most of them. So it got to be a reason why. But you only feel like that because you have a human brain. So in your brain, you feel like your life is more valuable than an animal's life in your brain. Just naturally. That's how we all.

That's how we are. So we put deep-ass thought into goddamn our life. And when somebody lose their life, we have a funeral. We do all these things. We celebrate because we look at it as way more sacred. as a human losing his life. But who gives us the power to say our life is

more valuable than anybody's life? Another human, any living thing. Yeah, no, you're right about that. So, niggas never say, do dogs go to heaven? Do chickens go to heaven? Do they go to hell? Because animals don't never sin. And they kill like a motherfucker and that shit ain't the sin. A lion

going to kill every day to eat. Murder. He's committing murder. He's walking up on a deer or a goddamn, a goddamn pig. He's sticking his teeth in the neck. He's making sure he's dead before he even eat it. Because lions don't even like to eat food alive.

So they're going to kill your ass first, then eat you. Right? Yeah. But we don't even question if animals can commit sins. We only apply that shit to humans. Yeah. Just real shit, bro. You're right.

Real shit. What you been reading? That's just always been a thought in my head, bro. I call my mama right now, nigga. We had this conversation in the kitchen. And she was like, I never thought about it like that. I'm like, shit. That's how I think. I believe in cause and effect.

I believe, if a bullet hit me a certain way, I would die. Let me ask you something. Okay, that's cool. You know, how many niggas around y'all that want to be rockers? Nobody. Let me think. No, I'm trying to think. No, no, it's a difference between wanting to be a rapper and rap because savage rap.

No, I'm talking about before then. It wasn't no hell of niggas, bro. Meas or was a rapper? Shit. He ain't want to be. be no rapper. No, I'm just saying, like, basically, you was the last one out of the crew that niggas would thought would be 21 service.

I wouldn't say I was the less, but I would say, goddamn, I was one of the few that tried it. No, I'm just saying, but who would think, you think they would think that you would be here now? Shit, when we was on the phone last night, Howard, them were saying that shit. Like, after you started, basically. No, like, they were saying, like, they were saying that Johnny, my best friend who got killed, goddamn.

They were saying that while he was alive, they had to come back. about me rapping. And he was saying I needed a rap. But I never knew that. Yeah. Because got down. He used to say my shit was hard and shit. But we just went overly like, shit, all right, we're going to put a plan together.

We're going to drop a mixtape. We, niggas was just, nigger, too hot stay on Pinedale, on G Block. So he had a little studio in his room and shit. A nigger pay him. He'll give a nigga a beat and record a nigger a song. Niggas just used to do that in their free time. So you don't want to feel as if though you're special, basically. Yeah, I don't really believe.

I believe I just did something, bro. You was in here, you was in America with no nothing. Your whole first gin of your wrongs in a whole other nigger name. You can even do nothing. But what, make it, but... That's some special shit, huh? Okay, but the only thing that make it special is success, though. And Nick, that's the only time niggas cause something special when it's success.

Nah, it takes a special need to record itself. Alright, but if I would have never... You know how many niggas in the street right now? right now, in America, that's immigrants that record their self, nigger wouldn't call that shit special. It's only the success that's making you call it special. I feel like it's causing effect. I felt like I went through some shit, got down, made some songs, put them out, people liked them out. People liked them more. Put out some more songs. People kept liking them. I got bigger and bigger. I don't look at it like, oh boy, you got damn God said, you,

you're going to be a rapper. I don't look at it like that. That's just my, my, my, opinion on me. Like, I don't look at it like that. So you don't think that that was like in your, in your, um, that was your path. You don't think like that was your path. That was just something you tried in your work. That's what you're saying. Niggas only say path when you do it. Niggas don't question what a nigga path was if a nigga die. Like if I would have died that night, right? Nigger wouldn't be saying, man, could have been the biggest rapper ever, bro.

me saying that. That's what I'm saying. It's only the success. So because this path brought me to success, niggas think this is what I was supposed to do. I don't know if this is what I was supposed to do, but I did it and it worked. So maybe it was what I was supposed to do.

I don't know. But I just don't look at shit as deep as other people because I feel like people only look as deep into shit because we have brains. And our brains are very like, what's the word? like complicated and complex. So we think different than animals so they say from what we know. So we put way more thought into shit and everything got to be a miracle.

And I don't like miracle-ass shit. So it'd be like, when niggas say that old like, bro, you one of a kind, you're another interview that was saying, you're an anomaly and that's only because I'm successful, nigger. If I didn't make it, nigga, we wouldn't even be talking. Yep. Yep. It's a lot of niggas who got my same story, bro. That's a lot of niggas who got, I got a partner, Crucial.

He watched Larry. He watched my partner and my partner, Mama, die together, and he got shot. Nigger don't walk around calling him special. He survived. He was in the hospital for a year. That's special. But I'm saying, as a general, that's not like a title. His name ain't special-ass crucial and nobody phone.

You get what I'm saying? It's just only, and he, you're a hustling, motherfuck. That dude, as smart as a motherfucker. To grind here, he's a nigga who still grind. You know what I'm saying? Get too much money. But a nigger only say that because of the fame, the success, all the shit the nigger than did. That's what make it special to people.

And that's the only part that I disagree with. Because, like, nigger, if it's special, anything special, just call me special as a person. Don't say my accolades and what I've done. Don't make that be the reason why you calling me special. No, but it takes a special kind of nigger to even keep going through all the shit that a nigger is going through. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep one hundred. Like, I wouldn't have been in the motherfuck

in the white van and I'm an immigrant riding all the way to California. That's some special shit. I'll just stay on Glenwood trapping. If they paying you? Well, it's been time y'all went out there

and it costs more than you're paying you, right? Hell it didn't. I ain't never did my business that way. Me. Talk to him, me. You might have technically made some money, but we, you know. We ain't make nothing like that.

But, nigga, I ain't leave that motherfucker going negative in the negative. Yeah, nah. I ain't did that ever. Yeah, that's true. Even the first two. The most I do is we break even. Yeah.

But, nigga, I ain't coming out my pocket. But breaking even, it's the same thing. No, it ain't. Because it's work still. It's still I'm putting in the work. I'm going to put in the work. As long as I don't got to lose no money to go put in the work. I do the work.

So y'all didn't do no free shows in the game? Free? If they were, that was in Atlanta. Yeah. I ain't had to go nowhere. That's a fact. No, I ain't never did no free show. Yeah.

Yeah, I did. I did. Like, look, A3C. and little shit like that, yeah, for sure. What's that other shit called? Side by Sideway, shit like that. But I still had one show that was paid that paid for the Airbnb and the travel and all that.

Who you draw inspiration from when you was younger? Like, what kind of music and shit? Like rap, R&B, dance hard, but like reggae dance hard. That's probably it. Who that nigga though? To me, like growing up. Gua. What made Goua, didn't he?

Just east side, just gangsta. Nigger like us. Run off with your shit, all that. Who you met in the industry that, who you see? Well, who you seen before you got in the industry, but then you're seeing the exact person who you thought they were. Like, you know how you'd be,

when we'd be, we don't know him of a fool, we'd be like, damn, I think he did this way, but then when you meet him, you'd be like, yeah, that's who I thought he would be. And vice versa. A nigga, you thought he was this, but then you met him. He's like, this, nigga ain't that. Probably got down.

Jay-Z, he was like, what I thought he would be. Gucci. T.I. Man, all of them niggas, really, real, for real. Like, chains. You're saying they thought they was exactly who you thought they would be? Yeah. Pluto.

Pluto ain't really used to talk, though, at first. Like, when I used to come around, a nigga would be in the studio with his ass. He'll just got down. He's standing there rolling a blend of something. Just hit the, you just hit the beach the whole time. He just was like, what's up, bro? Don't say nothing there.

I used to be like, boy, that damn, that nigger got down. Superstar, got down. Who else? That's still kind of, see, Fluton know what to do back there. See, you do it that. When you leave, you don't know how to feel like, man, this nigga, man. He always got me. No, he fucked with that.

No, but I'm saying that, but still, that's still something that stuck with you. Yeah. It's sort of shit you have to do as an artist. Not on purpose, it's that shit. That's my oral shit. I don't, I'm big. So, the nigga Lee, you're gonna tell that story to who are you want me, like, you see that niggins that play and beat the shit with all the game

up, but you did what I'm saying? Yeah. What about it? I don't think I'm like that, though. I think I'm regular, like, and when a nigger come around me like... Y'all ain't having niggas around like that. Niggas do be around me. Like who?

Everybody. Heard be around me all the time. Heard your man, though. I'm not like a new artist. A new artist. Nardo. I don't have been around me and I'd be regular

you know what I'm saying How did you How did you Because I was watching The other night I was watching the Brepper Club Interview you was like producers and shit

What fuck would you harder And the artist Artists were acting like divas Yeah So how did you I said it on Breakfast Club I think it was Brother Club

Like when your first interview I probably just on some Yeah I was saying You know that That's what I was saying Like How did

You know what I'm saying Because niggas who are fucking with me a little bit You just put the prayer down Like y'all dick gonna be pulling my... Oh God Then y'all gonna be yanking it Oh God Hey but how do you

Not Not Be the person that you would describe But still remain Keep your superstar status You know what I'm saying Like how do you not God damn be a diva

But at the same time Fuck with niggas But I can't really fuck with niggas Like how you balance this shit Don't be seen Nigger don't see me A nigga can't say shit You can't say nothing good

That bad You ain't never seen me Yeah That way Because I don't I fuck with certain Little y'nickers But it'd be like

Too much going on To where it's like If I fuck with you Then god down This nigga might feel away You know what I'm saying So now as I'm in my 30s You're staying in the house.

Go to my studio. I don't really mix and mingle too much. But I overly fuck with niggas. But this is what niggas don't understand too. I'd be trying to tell a lot of niggas this shit too. Like younger rappers and shit. It's a moment for everything. So you might feel like it's time for me to get on your song.

But I want this song to do as much as it can do for you. And I want this motherfucker to be as hard as it can be too. Because you're going to water my brand down if I'm just on every nigger, young niggas song type shit. So I be trying to wait till niggas had that moment to do certain shit, unless you want to mind. Could you understand that back then though? Like if a nigger would have told you that, could you understand that? Like, bro, you ain't time yet, bro, and then you got down. And you knowing your shit hot, you bubbling in the streets or whatever, could you understand that?

Yeah. If a nigger broke it down to me like that, yeah. A nigger just ignored me not telling me shit. I probably felt some type of way. But when I blew up, it was the game was still different though. What you mean? Like, you got to think about it, bro. Rap ain't even producing as many stars as it used to.

Like when I came out, think about all the niggas that came out around me and after me. Just think about my freshman cover. You got me on the L'OOOUSI, G Herbo, Kodat, A Buggy, a buggy, got down. Anderson Pack. Anderson Pack. Yeah, Yaddy. Yaddy. Yeah.

Got down. I said Yaddy. Well, if I didn't, Yaddy. The other nigger, man, Denzel Curry. Got down. Lil Dickey. The nigga Dave East. You get what I'm saying?

That's 10 niggas that's still relevant right now. You know what I'm saying? Then you got to think about after me just in Atlanta. Got damn around my time. You had nudie. Got-down baby. Gunna, got down. Who else came out around that time?

Who else just came, just fuck Atlanta, just period. Artists that came out back then that got down went all the way up. Playboy Cardi. I'm talking about saying? Like saying shit with Kodak, Wadi and all of them saying, right? Young boy. Like dirt, you know what I'm saying? So it was different back then.

So got down. The path wasn't the same path what it is now. Now, a nigger blowing up is a nigger getting two goddamn $60,000 a show. Like, that's the definition of what's hot because the barding got lower. So, got down back when I was coming up, you got to thank got down. Nick, my 2015, I dropped all my mix takes and shit. Red off, start going up. 2016, I do goddamn Savage Mode.

The only nigga that was on Savage Mode was Pluto. And Metro produced, it was me and Metro shit. Newty going on to them. No, I knew they went on. Oh, okay. The only feature was, uh, new they weren't even trying to rap for it. Okay. So got down, the only feature was got down, um, future.

So by the time I'm rubbing hands with these niggas, I'm already the hottest nigga in Atlanta. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Now a nigger would drop a song and it'll go up and then got down six months later, this nigga still got the same amount of followers. Yeah. No, real shit. Yeah.

It's nobody's just blowing up to where the last nigger, the last few niggas who I feel like just blew up was like, like, like, blew up all the way. Baby. Baby. Big X. Big X. Ride wave. Rydway. Pushaisty.

God damn. That is fucked up. I don't want to leave nobody. The girls. The girls. But it's like. Lotto. The girl's going up.

Right. But it's like, it's not like how it was back then. So back then, like, a nigger, basically what I'm saying is a nigger reaching it to my level of hotness, you know that's fin to be something. Yeah. Because it wasn't like that little weird middle part back then. Yeah. It was either your ass was on the way to be a star or your ass wasn't going to be nothing. Now it's like, nigger got down and be like 40% of star.

But everybody in the club singing your song. But you ain't, you can't even really sell tickets to no show or nothing. Yeah. Get what I'm saying? So now it's kind of different. In my opinion. What do you think, fuck that up? Just...

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yeah shit just change over time it don't even be like a main thing it's just like a shit change over time but what you think what you think like rap going they're saying that shit about over It's over with for a certain nigger ass. I don't think it's over going to ever be over with. Like, why niggas ain't on the, let's say, nobody ain't been on a billboard all year or this month or something? What? No rap artist.

Ain't been, ain't on what billboard? The top one? What is it? The one. Ain't no rap song been on the Hot 100? In the top 20. I bet you when this shit come out something in the top two. I'll just say.

said, but that one out of how many artists? Ain't nobody really dropping, though. Ain't no big artists really dropping. But why I take the big art? But I'd be feeling like that shit like that, be little narratives and internet shit. It's like, who gives a fuck, though? It's probably a rap song that's number 21 or 22. But it's never happened before since hip hop been around though.

So that's something to look at. I don't believe that. Since 1990. That's something to look at, bro. That's how I'm gonna study, what it is? 1990. About 35 years. Yeah, that's a long-a-time.

Almost 30 years. Yeah, that's shit ain't hot. Do people even care about music anymore? Yeah, motherfuckers care. That shit, you just come and go so far. I feel like it's oversaturated. It's like, it's like, niggas, it's too much shit come out, bro. It's like, if it was spaced out, like, all the fans would be focused on this.

Then, a couple weeks go back, okay, all the fans are. about, okay, all the fans focused on this and it would reflect. I think we'll fuck her up all of them, little bitch-ass little clits. Like, we ain't fucking with him. We ain't fucking. That's the best bitch's shit ever to me. Why?

It just bit shit to me. I don't like that. Like, why would you tell a nigga, if I don't like a nigga, I just don't like him. Unless he's, like, how the niggas is. Like, this is my brother. I don't like him like that. Now, if I don't like a nigga because of nothing,

why the fuck I'm in there? Put the, that's some shit. Yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, I don't do that. I'm on a lot, though. I don't be seeing that. Man, yes, you do. Well, a nigga just don't like a nigga for nothing

and just like, hey, none of y'all. And none of y'all don't fuck with him because I don't like. It really be for nothing. Because when you ask a nigga where they fuck, you're like, nigga, make up something. Give me an example of who you seen do that. Man, you know I ain't been to say that on him.

But I'd have told you played a time. I'm just saying, I don't do that, though. I'm just saying, but you'll stop fucking with a nigga. I can call you right in the night, like, sir, I ain't fuck a sister. You only had no. question. That's how it's supposed to be.

No, it ain't. Yeah, I'm definitely going to ask you what's going on. But if I lie. But I ain't going to ask you because you're not going to call me and say no shit like that unless some, a nigga that is a nigga that ain't. But I could be hanged. I could wake up a hater. You don't never know. I could wake up a hater. And I'm going to be like, bang, what the hell going on?

What happened? And you're going to be like, ooh, I'm going to be like, man. You're going to have hanged. Fuck that nigga, though. But you hang. Exactly. But I'm a type of nigger say that, though. Like, I don't just don't like this nigga.

He ain't did anything I just don't like Fuck him I would rather give you that Then come tell you alive, bro The nigga told me a little ho You know how a little shit To me little ho You know how a nigga do

Oh god Nigger I ain't got a little ho It's how old This I'm a little ho This nigga told me a little ho Oh God Ain't got anything to do with that You know what I'm saying

Yeah I don't be doing that tight shit though I'm defensive Nick I always doing some suck of shit to me. No. Who? A lot of niggas.

A lot of niggas, bro. When? You ain't gonna see it because you don't be on the internet. Oh, that shit don't count. Ain't nobody did none of you. They sat talking on the internet. Ain't nobody did any of you. That's talk.

Yeah, but I'm saying, you still, that's sucker shit. That's shit that it made me be like, fuck you. But I still ain't from the car on a nigga and be like, hey, don't fuck with that nigga. Oh, we ain't fuck. They're like the lunchroom and the girls sitting over here like, we mad at her. That's pussy shit.

shit to me. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't like that. Like, because when they come back around, these niggins and they ain't really mean that, now you're looking like a pussy. Yeah, they back cool. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. Like, I don't have been

a victim of my boys don't fuck with these niggas, so I can't even know I like these niggum. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't been a victim of that, bro. I don't like that. Like, now I can't have such, such I'm a podcast because little one and little man and promen they don't call me like, shit, bro, you fuck this nigga.

I'm like, bro, the nigga can make some content or something. What y'all want me to do, man? But what I'm going to say? What don't I have to say? Fuck him. That's fucked up, bro. But nigga ain't never just overly been like,

bang, fuck that nigga. No, I don't do that. I'll give you my opinion, nigga. And then I'd be like, but shit, you got to do what you got. to do though, bitch. You, shit. You chose this lane.

Yes. That's what I tell you. I might be like, I feel like you a bitch. But then call me the night, they're like, bro, you ain't go hard on the dick. You pulled a... Man, I don't hell like y'all niggins. I ain't go hell hell hell no guess. Because then when the niggas see it, nigger, be like, this shit really hard too, too, though.

They little bitch that a nigger hard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, nah. But I just think the people at the top, It ain't but five or six of y'all at the top from the city need to figure out ways for it to trickle down, man. Like, it has to be rewritten from the route to the streets. All this shit got to be rewritten on West Cool West Lane. And niggas stand on that.

If a nigger don't, everybody's doing whatever they want to do. You don't never be thinking about this shit you'd be saying, some time. Yes. You're saying five or six niggas. What I'm saying is? With egos, money, bitches, come together and agree on something and it trickle down. It will. This one's what I don't like, too.

Niggers be acting like Atlanta just always been like this. That shit be kept. Oh yeah, 100 percent. But niggas, but niggas knew how they keep that shit looking like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if I'm into one of my niggas, right? The ultimate thing you could do is vocalize.

Like, that makes you hope. Right. Like, we can be beefing, fuck you. Nigger, fuck you. When the camera come on, I love, bro. Yeah. Like, don't never let the people know that, that came out. My grandma house or tell them about what going on my house.

Oh, God. So when niggas started doing that, you're saying, fuck me, right? Oh, God. You doing that. You're saying fuck me. So I think that's what they, I think. Niggers can get right here and be like, okay. But what you mean when you say these the rules?

What you mean when you say that? I'm saying like, this is what we're not doing. This is what we're not pushing on the people. This is what we're standing on. What, though? I don't know. Whatever. Are you saying niggas just need to figure that out?

Yeah. Now you say like, just everything we say, all right, bro. We gonna let these nigger know anything done to a pedestrian is often in it. That's why. Yeah, that's some suck. We don't do shit to pedestrians. Right. That's just what it is.

Right. Respect women, kids and all that. Put that in the mix. Right. You know what I'm talking about, like the real true shit. Right. Like all the bullshit, like, niggas, get your man. You don't do something you.

Get your man. Rap about them. What all the fuck you want to do about regular people? But don't go shooting in no crowd. Shit like that. Right. That's what fucked up and that's what started blaming all the bullshit, bro. To what the folk can respect.

I know a long time ago, the police came up on the cone, right? They were like, bro. They pulled it all the two sides. Look, man. We ain't tripping man long as y'all don't be up here. Shoot nobody, call nobody. Y'all can say what the fuck y' y'all want to sell. Just don't do no violence.

So after that, we start, hey, we're up in the niggas. Don't shoot nobody up in on there. Because you're going to get into it all of us. Fucking up the money. Right. That's what's going on. Niggas is fucking up the money in the music because everybody was on a smack some.

Ain't nobody doing anything, though. Ain't undid it all. What can you talk about? You don't need to do no more, man. I don't even think a nigga, nigger need to just leave that alone. Like, fuck. Fuck got down.

Hey, we ain't doing nothing to pedestrian. We ain't doing nothing to nobody. Take that part out. Sometimes you got to do something. That's what fucking up the streets. What is? Just the bang bang shit. But some shit is sanctioned, bro.

Like, niggas do the wrong shit. I'm just being real, though. Like, if somebody's breaking your house and why your kid would have something, something got to happen about that. Yeah, yeah. Like, ain't nothing else. Something has to happen about that.

Like, I don't know who, I don't know what to do, but something. Yeah. We need to be able to police our own communities, man. I get what you said. That's another thing that I'd be thinking about too. I'd be like, down. Why when niggas talk about snitching, they act like it only apply to the streets?

I ain't never seen no police officers testify on no police officer. They got a cold. They're supposed to be the ultimate opposite of the streets though. And they stand on the same principle. If me and my got down what they call that shit, my partner patrolling and got down, my partner jump out the car and chase a nigger and a nigger got down got a phone and he got down pulling his phone out and my partner kill him. Boy, his partner going to say, I thought I saw a gun too. Even if he didn't, even if he knowing his heart, he didn't see no gun. But a nigga act like snitching is just this oxymoron from the shrew.

But niggas been getting told this shit, the police stand on it. Everybody that worked for goddamn law enforcement stand on it. They don't snitch on each other. And goddamn, your mama been telling you, don't come back and tell me what your little sister did. I'm going to whip your ass. So this shit drilled in the nigger head. But niggas act like this just some oxymoron street shit. No, but you got some people that raised their kids to tell.

Yeah, of course. Them the niggas who don't got in the streets and got the money before the real. See what happened was. They let the whole niggas get the money first, bro. I'm just being 100, bro. They did. They let them get the money first because them nigga was more focused enough

to get the money, getting in a position, getting the office, get the hiring people and all that shit. So now you got you got street niggas that coming in and shit that knowing like, I don't really fit in with that,

so I'm just going to be humble and let me talk or let evidence talk. I'm going to let these people talk because I don't know but one way. You know what I can't tell me not the people. Oh shit.

Like, if I come in the office and the motherfucker's saying some shit that just some whole shit. So, so, so you feel like nobody who snitched was a street nigga

and was raised not to tell. I feel like every nigga who have told they've been with tell. I don't feel like no nigga got tricked or none of that. It don't matter if a nigga

would tell, if they would tell. I'm saying, you're saying it's people that's raised to tell. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, them type people who raise the tail, of course you have the exception, but most of them, they a ass go do, like, be doctors or they work in the office somewhere or something, bro.

Not really, bro, because you got... Bro, if you grew up in the hood, your mama used to whip your ass when you told on your brother or your sister. Not all to them. How many of y'all used to get a whipping for telling on y'all's siblings? Get told. Not even a whooping. Just get told.

Don't tell on your brother. Don't be no tat-a-tale. That's majority of the room, brother. This is a majority of our people, though. All these people are from different walks of life, brother. But we all... She does audio. He works the camera.

He's my manager. I don't know what she do. I don't know what she do. She's an A&R. What I'm saying is... He worked audio. But I can't be around. Jack, nigg.

So you're saying everybody that hang around each other is the same people. No, no, no, no, no. These are all people from different walks of life, bro. Some of these people went to college. You right about that. Some of these, so, and all of them are black, and they all was told. But when have niggas listen to Mama? I listened to my mama.

Okay, that's why you did. Until I got to the age where I could book. You used to listen to your mama, too, till you got to that age where you asked a buck. Yeah, but I'm saying, so a lot of shit, you didn't take everything that your mama told. You didn't believe that you was chosen when she told you. You said everything has caused and the fact. Right. So another motherfucker could be like, my mom don't know what she's talking about, I'm going to tell.

I'm not saying, I'm not saying that ain't the case, bro. I ain't saying that it's the case. I'm just saying, bro, I just have a different outlook on life than most niggas, I think, that come from my walk of life. So, goddamn, all I'm saying is, okay, police have a goddamn, a code that they follow about, right? Like, if your ass tell on your officer, when you walk back in that goddamn, the station,

all the police are going to be looking at your head, like right-eyed, nigga. Oh, to the max. Get what I'm saying? And they're not street. It's just betrayal. That's how they look at it. Like, you betrayed the badge.

I agree. All right, cool. Just like, I have a different outlook on prosecutors and got down people, that type of shit. Like, them ladies who is in third trial, I feel like they're doing a job. And their job is to sell this shit. I don't feel like it's emotionally attached. Like, I want to see this nigga go to jail for the rest of the years. Like, my job is to sell my theory.

I have to sell my theory to the jury and win the case. So I'm doing this as hard as I can. to make these folks think what I'm saying is true. She's supposed to. You get what I'm saying? So, goddamn. What I'm saying is people now, well, the internet has made it like, oh, snitching is just this dumb-ass rule that streetnickers made up because they are streetnickers is just stupid. Oh, that's what you're saying?

No, that's what you say? No, everyone. Politician, everybody. You remember what Trump said that a nigga, right, man. That's my point. Yeah, no, for sure. But the internet making it seem like, who the hell even invented snitching? Them nigg is dumb.

That shit stupid. No, it's just you can't be a nigger that's upholding something and then don't stand on it. That's how I look at it. Now, the motherfucker never said that they would never tell, shit, who, I can't be mad at you for telling. Right. But if you, one of the niggas who say this- No, that's not what they're saying. The rule of snitching is stupid.

Who said that? That whole internet, bro. That's the narrative now. That's the general narrative. Oh, like, basically like, why do we care? Street niggers are stupid. Why do niggas? care about the streets. Why do people care that a niggas is snitching? I'm kind

with them on it. Why, though? If we just... Because it's fucked up! But we just agreed that police and all type of other people think the same thing about this same rule. No, no. You're right. 100% you're right. And if there was three, four years ago, I probably wouldn't agree with that. But right now, looking at

the streets for what it is, all this shit fake. Not just snitching, everything fake. What you mean? Everything fake. When niggas is breaking in their power, fucking their bitches, fucking their partner. all the bitches, all that shit is bullshit, bro. Like, we didn't do that. Like, I don't, I don't even want to side bitch, bro.

I don't even want to bitch, you don't fuck. Yeah, but. Because I know my nigger Nash, I don't want to fuck by your nash dad, bro. But, but, but, but, but buses out in. Huh? Tell on them. No, I get it. But you got nigg.

If you signed up for the streets. But this ain't the same streets that they signed up for. It is. They ain't signed up for the streets you signed up for. I ain't no concrete change where I'm from. All right. That shit still look the same. I tell you, they niggas ain't signed up for the sign shit.

These niggas is coming back today to court in the whole of the thing. Like, bro, you know what you got to do? Niggas in jail telling you to tell. I don't know about that. Bro, they is, bro. I don't know. Man, work your one. I don't worry about that.

Man, please. I ain't never heard it, so I can't say yes or no. I ain't saying it don't exist. I'm just saying I never heard that. Oh, okay, okay. And I don't, we ain't going to make this out of a shriek. All I know, how y'all come up with this, this ain't really telling, like, what's really tell it.

Look, before you say that, before you say that, right? Good. Before you say that, right, this is what I was going to tell you. At the end of that day, when I watched Training Day, when it got down,

then Zelle found out Jake, rat-ass was fin to tell on him. He tried to smoke Jake. Facts. And they were both police officers. Yeah. Okay. What's this what you just said, though?

I said, when did y'all start gauging, like, that ain't really telling. I ain't never said that ain't really telling. I either say it ain't telling or it is telling. Because people try and make shit so simple. Like, okay, the game of basketball is got down. You shoot it in the hoop.

You get a point. Got down. If the other person shoot it in the hoop, they get a point. But niggas will say if a nigger ain't nobody locked up, like, nigger can show. No, bro, no. Let me tell you. All right, go ahead.

All right, look. Look, niggas are trying to make, simplify the streets to just, if you shoot it in the net, you get a point. If you shoot it in the other net, they get a point. But they ain't bringing up, got down. Boy, if you stand in the key, that's three seconds. If the bar go out, that's out of bounds. If you grab a nigga the wrong way, that's a file. If you got down hang on the goal, nigga, that's interference.

You got down hanging on the rim. If you yell at the ref, nigga, that's a tick. So the streets is the same. It ain't just black and white just one thing and every nigger know that and every city got how they look at some shit, bro. Like some niggas look at saying a dad nigger did some shit is telling. I don't look at that like telling. If I go on the move with my mind and my man don't make it, boy, everything in his car, everything we just did, he did it. You still told on a dead man.

I don't give a fuck. Me neither, but I'm just saying. I probably do the same shit, but I'm a rat. But you still told on a dad nigger though. But so can a nigger call you a rap for that? can call what the fuck they want to call. A nigger can always say anything. But you told on a dead nigga.

I'm just a rap then at that point. But you tell on a live nigger. Yeah, that's snitching. If you tell on the alive, nigga, that's snitching. But see, that's what I'm saying, too many, it's too much, it's too many. It's basketball. It's too many. It's too biddy.

It's multiple. It's not just simplified today. It ain't. It is, bro. No, it is. It is, bro. If you go in there, top of the vote without a lawyer, you told. No, you did it.

All right. I'm saying. Okay, so. Okay. So, let me say something. Go ahead. Me and you. Nigger, me and you on the move.

Me and you on the move, nigga. Yeah. All right. We robbing a nigga. A nigga telling got down, man. Bank, Bank and Savage robbed me. When folks snatched me up, they bring me in the room. Yeah, we want to know this bank rob them.

Nah, hell no. Man, bank was in the bed of sleep. I talked to bank. I see. I told on you. You can. Did I tell on you, man. No, no.

You kind of did. How? Because, get what, what if I ain't said that? What you mean? What if I said I would got there at my mama house? You told that I was in another house. Hey, Bank boy, I told them folks you was at home. I already never told them to damn.

You'll fuck the whole case up. No, you have- Don't say shit, nigga. No, no. That ain't snitching. That ain't snitching. That ain't snitching. Your ass talking too much trying to help a man. You was talking too much trying to help a nigga,

but you weren't trying to hurt a nigga, man. Snitching is trying to hurt a nigga. Snitching is trying to get another nigga fuck. Listen, man. Snitching is trying to get another nigga fucked up. so you can be unfucked up. That's what snitching is, bro. I understand that.

But let me ask you something, right? You did all that line for me. Right. And then the folks tell you, this is how they get you. That way, they say you got the right to remain side. They tell you, okay, well, you're going to go to jail for perjury, because he already said this.

You're going to be like, oh, oh, let me tell you what hell did. They can't take you. That's how they used to get, nigg. They can't take you there with jail for perjury. Perjury is if you lie on under oath. See, y'all don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on. What you're just saying?

Well, the scary nigga, they got a scary nigga now. Hey, man, I don't care what you're going there and say. As long as you don't say nothing to incriminate no nigga and your intention ain't to get a nigga locked up. But do you agree? All right, let's move forward, move forward. Do you agree? Just ask for your lawyer.

From this point on. Yeah. I get what you saying. Just ask for your lawyer. That makes it simple. Yeah. Because you ain't got to worry about, we ain't got a discernment. Like, diddy, diddy, ditty, or couldy, or we just really, we ain't got to even decipher.

Right. The folks give you the best game in the way. But you know, sometimes folks go in there and try to hear what they're talking out too, though, to see what they got. So you might not even be saying nothing. You might just be in there letting them talk. I didn't seem gangsters do that. And when they, as soon as they ask them a question, I mean, I don't want to talk. They're calling my lawyer.

But you still in there with them folks without your lawyer. You just said if a nigger going there without his lawyer. Don't say in that. Oh, nice, don't say now. Why are you moving the goal post? You did. You did. You just said, don't go in that without your lawyer.

Listen, man. You just said some whole shit. Listen, if y'all motherfuck ain't telling me on the way to jail, I ain't trying to really go in no room and talk to y'all. You don't got no choice. You got to go in this room and they say you don't want to talk. They bring you in the room. They ain't telling you where you're going.

Yeah, it's in the back of the police car. You're going to be, they're going to be playing some weird ass shit on the radio. I always been the suspect, though. They never really asked me shit. Nigger, they asked the suspect shit. I'm saying, they ain't asked me shit. They're always telling me what I did, and that's it. How they tell you that?

Was your lawyer then when they told you that? What you mean? What you mean? What you mean? Put your head in the head cut. You've been all the rest of it. Where your lawyer was at then? Why they were talking to you then?

Why they were talking to you then? When they're going to pull you over, when they said, we got savage. Yeah. When you got to the thing, when I got in the back of the cry and said, hey man, y'all know y'all fucked up. Y'all know that case thrown out. Was I telling him?

No. That case thrown out, man. This warrant. ain't nothing, man. You want to snitching, but you was telling them that your case was told up. You was telling them that. You know.

Yeah. How many times we seen that on 40-8? Nick going that motherfucker are too good. We didn't lie. All I'm saying is I can't judge a nigga off of finesse. I'm judging you off whether you all ass snitched or you didn't snitch. That's what I'm saying. So did you go in this bitch and say such and such and such did this to such and such and such?

Or such and such and did this to such and such. All right, let me ask you another question. What if a nigga went in there and said such such did this, but did such such and such? them didn't do it. Is that finesse? That's telling. I don't see. I'm lost now. That's telling. You're saying, if I go in the room and they say... Miss Lee, if you go in the room with Miss Lee, if you know goddamn court did Blase-Squoisee,

but you say, shy did it, but you know Sha got alibi by shoes at home, is that telling? No. Well, hold on. Let me think about that. I'm trying to process what you're saying. I'm trying to process what you're saying. I got down. Such and such did it, but I'm saying such and such did it, but I know such and such got an alibi. Yes. Like a good alibi.

Yeah. Like on camera at home in some apartments, we know that they're at home. You said, yeah. You know why I say it depends on how the person that I'm spinning them towards take it because they hold the power. So I'm giving them the power. Because it's snitching if the person I said did it, say it's snitching. How can you prove that that wasn't snitching? If court did it, but I'm saying shot and shot say, man, Savage told it on me, how can I prove I didn't?

So it's snitching. You can't ask me that. But you're trying to save her. Yeah, but it don't matter. My opinion don't matter. I can't determine that because it, well, my answer to your question is, It's whatever the fuck shy said is. Yeah.

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But you, in your mind, you would be trying to finesse it. Right. So, so it makes everything is subjective. It basically, exactly. So we can't, we really can't come to terms of what's telling them what's not. We can't.

And we never could. That's why the internet never should have been in the business. Don't say how we could. The streets is too, it's too many dynamics to the street. It's too many situations, bro. It's too many, like, I could be on a, move with my man and got down my man get killed and nigger they could be trying to charge me with his body so i know before we went on this mood nigger me and my man and talked about

shit like this hey boy if i die put it on me oh yeah so so god damn but but if a nigger seeing black and white boy a nigger said such and such did it that's that's telling to them but you don't know the situation so it's everything has its dynamics so niggas car dynamics moving the goalpost it ain't moving the goalpost it's just different dynamic But I call it moving the gold pole, not niggas. I call it moving to the gold pole. Man, you win a lot of people, though. I'm gonna tell you why I call it moving the gold pole.

Why? Because if it was this nigger, he would be a rat. Like, because it's my man, I'm gonna move the gold pole. I don't feel like that. I do. I do. Because I don't see niggas shit for way less. You talk about certain people.

No, I'm just saying people just period. So do you feel like I do? You think I do that? I feel like you've done that. When? Man. How about that shit? We ain't gotta say names.

Yeah, I'm gonna say, I feel like you're done it. Well, I feel like you just, oh, look at shit on the bright side bank. You can't really say this, nigger, man. Like, how are you gonna say that? Look at it like this, that. And I be right. I'll be right.

I do be right, man. I do be right. You don't. I do be right. I just don't be want to keep going back and forth. The only time when I point shit out to you and you do the opposite is when you already don't like a nigger in your way.

So your mind already tainted. Whatever you seen, man, fuck that. I ain't like that nigga anyway. Yep, he did. That's the only time to be like that. If it's a mutual nigger where it's like I fuck with a little nigga here all right, you'll hit me out and be like, damn, you were all right. Little brother didn't do that.

Yeah. So that's you being biased, nigga. That ain't me. I'm going to invite it. Because I'm going to move the Gold Post for my nigga too, though. I'm going to keep it real. I'm not. But I ain't going to move it for him in public, but I ain't move for him to them.

I ain't moving the gold post. I am. I am. Fuck that shit. Nigg is going to move it too much. They're a well-a-go-posed that. Don't move for my niggins. How?

No, you ain't. You count. If one of your niggas go in there and say, Bank did this, your ass ain't moving shit. Oh, no. Or they say got down. Yeah, right.

Are they say got down, Danny did this? Lewin did this? You ain't going for that. That's something different. I'm saying, if he's telling him another nip, I'm moving. No, you ain't.

No, the hell. I ain't even got no niggas in your street. You're just saying some shit. That's why you're saying that. Just saying some shit. I'm just trying to make a logical point, bro. You ain't trying to make no point, man. Nah, you're trying to make a logical, goddamn,

a logical point against my point. For sure. That's what you're trying to do. I suppose to. You being the devil's advocate or whatever that card is. Let me ask you something. So it ain't telling unless Shai says telling. It's whatever Shai said is in that situation.

To me, it's not telling. If I'm the person, I know for a fact, shy was at home. I know she on camera at home and I know this a lie To me it's not telling It's spinning the police But shy can come out

And make me look like a rap Okay If somebody did that to you Would you feel like they told on you By even putting your name in them folk? Yeah Damn, I don't know I probably would

Maybe that is telling Maybe nigga she used imaginary people When they do shit like Really sick But he's got down But he still spinning them No, it is telling. I'm going to tell you why it's telling.

I'm going to tell you why it's telling. This why it's telling, real shit. Go ahead. Okay, court did the crime. Shai got down. Shai was at home. She was on camera. She got weed.

She got 50 bricks in the house. 12 push up to get her. She gets caught with the work. Yeah. I told on her. Because if I didn't put her in it, they would never even hit her house. So that's telling.

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Yeah, that's a tech That's a tech Now, it's a flagrant If you could change one thing About the rap game, what would it be? If I could change something About the rap game Do I give a fuck about the rap game like that?

The game? Just whatever goes on in the industry Just period Oh, like What would I change? I would remove a lot of ego from the game. I feel like... It wouldn't be nothing if there was no ego.

Not zero ego. I wouldn't make it zero ego. But I feel like ego is the biggest downfall of men. Fuck, just the route game. Just a man. I feel like a nigger's worst enemy is their ego. But if you don't have ego, that means you got... I ain't saying don't have ego at all.

Yeah. But I feel like it's a balance between ego and just logics and just like a nigger would know... Me and this man, I ain't never shot at each other, ain't no blood drawn between us. We just fucked a few comment holes and he might like him a little more than I do. And he would prevent that from us making a song that can make Go Diamond or some shit. Facts. It's just all because of ego.

Facts. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm fair. I feel like ego than goddamn kept more great music from the game than it has received. That's what I was speaking. I'm glad you said that because that's what I was talking about like the little bitch table. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's ego that's keeping the game.

That's why the game's so separated now. Like, bro, I was just talking my man at Lion Nation, right? And he was just telling me he was like, it's like, bro, we can't really do these big concerts and big tours and shit. And then Meese came back and snapped. It's like, because niggas be like, Savings, we bought Sabbaths for a Saturday, and he see DJ Meese on the show. He'd be like, bro, you don't fuck them,

bro. I ain't doing it if you're going to do it. I don't do that. I know you don't, but I'm just saying, niggas do. You think so? They said it. For real?

They said, like, like Coachella and all that shit, them big-ass show. I'm trying to bop in tea. Yeah. It ain't even got to be like no smoke. You just be like, all this nigga on the show with me. Ego shit. Yeah, I don't do that.

Jack Hill for my man. But the only thing that I will do is goddamn, hey, don't have me performing in front of some nigger that I feel like ain't bigger than me. Oh yeah, for sure. That's the only thing. That ain't, that ain't fun. That's just more of like branding.

Yeah. I don't want to look like no peon type shit. But you got nigg. I ain't never told them if a nigger on this show, I'm not performing. I never did that in my life. You got nigg that blocked nigg's money. Dumb nigga's gonna be there or ain't coming.

So them folk gonna naturally take such a side over the goddamn little Joe Blow. I feel like them tight niggas be bitch niggas anyway though. Like mama boy ass niggas like super mama boys though. But they be having real niggas that's with them and gonna move with that shit. Yeah, because the money. That's what I said. That's the pussy shit.

Yeah. That's the pussy shit. It's like nobody ain't telling the niggas into real. Like you'd be like, bang, you be anti-social, bro. You don't want to be. Bro, because I'm gonna be the nigger that seemed like a hater because I'm gonna be saying everything, everything. Man, that bitch shit too. That's a bitch shit too.

Doesn't be, I'm saying it all day. You need that, though. Huh? You don't know the guy might need that. No, but I ain't got, I can't take how he might take it. What's you mean? If I'm with you right, we're a cop or whatever, and I see a nigga like, man, man, damn, I didn't even write my hand to get up out of me. He ain't a nigga, or whatever I say about a nigga who, and he fell away.

But I really, I really feel like, bro, you is tripping you, why you got a thong, whatever, whatever nicks be doing. Why are you doing that? That's, see, me, I have to be around it because I'm an old nigger too. So now, like, y'all be like, bro, that's that old niggins shit, that shit. No, I wouldn't say that about that. You didn't, but you said that about something else. When I was talking about this rat shit, you're like, bro, you're trying to kick it like, you Al Capone days and all that old shit.

Like, this shit don't go like that no more. I was just saying that because you, you be stubborn. It's like you, once your mind made up, I got to really wait till you just calm down a little bit from the situation and then talk to you when you like, don't give a fuck about no more. Yeah. I'm with you when you're right. Hey, man.

That's fucked up. I just told you're going to have no folk back down, man. Nah, but yeah. But have I been wrong? I asked you living this other day. If I get it, it's a gift and a courage. If I'd be like, man, nigger, ho. I don't say that about a lot of niggas, but I say it by a lot of niggas.

No, you say that about a lot of niggas. Okay. How many? You say that about everybody paying. Except me. Except me. I got to keep it a brick. Hey, but listen, do them nigger eventually do some ho-ass shit.

Yes, but I've been told you they were hoaxed. You just be realizing late. I just be telling you, yeah, a ho-ass-nigger but shit, ho-ha-nick. Look, though, I got to do the song with him. You'd be the one like vouching for them and then they do some whole shit. But you say the same thing. What?

Like, he's a ho-ha-a-nigger but shit, I fuck with him. I just know. It doesn't ran out. It's like, it's the majority now. You think so? I don't think that. I think so. You think it's majority whole niggas?

Yes. What you think? For you're talking about globally. You ain't talking about in Atlanta. You're talking about in Atlanta? Bro, yes, man. I'm talking about everywhere. It's like you said, bro.

No, nobody want to see nobody else be lit, bro. I don't know what's wrong with that shit. Like, this ain't got nothing to do with you. Like, whatever go on your account, whatever, around your neck, whatever, that shit ain't got shit to do with me. Shit. I don't want none of the holes you got.

I don't even want to say in California. I don't want what another nigga got. I'm already comfortable with me. Niggas don't be comfortable with themselves. Like all these quiet, you'll come out and talk with all these quiet. That's why I like, really high and some slick shit. That's what they don't want the world or no like. Yeah.

Something else. You get my money to be quiet. I don't want to fuck around and be out. I'm talking. And the bitch tail got there and she's been whatever, playing them a tail and all this old shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, so niggas will be quiet and shit, like, you'll get for the walk light, bro. You know what I'm saying? She don't want this shit to come back. It's a lot of that going on too.

Yeah. Niggas look in the mirror and know they don't see who we see. Yeah. Damn, that's deep. Real shit. Like, bro.

So you're saying, a nigga, insecure. Like a motherfucker. If I look in the mirror, bro, I pump myself up. I know who I see a nigger who don't got to change their life. Well, you're going to work till you move. You'll finish yourself.

I don't know for that myself to change. This shit actually working. Oh, God. No, but you got some nigger that knowing like, if the world knew this, every day, dealing with that. And we'd be thinking like, why are you so upset? Why do you people be so nunchin? No, they're dealing with their own problems.

Oh, these thing are fighting demons. Yes. Like the other kind of demons. Bro, you ain't never seen the niggas just never, like, you ain't never going to be happy. Like, why you ain't never happened, bro? You ain't never smiling. You ain't never happy. Yeah.

I mean, it depends, though. It's because it's certain niggas that I can understand why they like that. Like who? Like, just niggas who really was in the street, bro. Man, one thing about, once you get out of that shit, man, you live another life. Man, that shit go away, bro. Like, I know, I'm saying, a lot of pain don't go away, but I know you still got to be grateful and thankful. that you still hit on.

Yeah, for sure. I feel like everybody fucked up in the head. Yeah, for sure. Because I was thinking about it earlier while I was driving because I knew you was going to bring that shit up.

And I was like, got down. God damn. A nigga then lost all these friends from gun violence. And I was like, these niggas

a nigga grew up with. Like, nigga know their mom's, ooh. Half them niggas in the Army I ain't seen each other parents ever in life. Like, they meet there.

Yeah. And them niggas come home and be fucked up in the head for real, like take medicine, end up killing their self and all kind of shit. Cause these nigga be, I ain't gonna say that about our veterans, man. But these nigga be school, boy, went from school. They ain't went through that storm first. But, but, these niggins went from school, college to the war.

What storm did we go through in the street? It was goddamn, you're off the port, bam, shit, he's gone. No, but you have already seen, goddamn cousin, uncle fighting, this person's fighting in the house. Bitch, sit down, oh, you're getting cussed out, getting cussed out, and they see that shit, too. They see that shit more than we do. Because them, them niggas be daddy got down retired, drink wine and beer all day, slap mama when he mad.

Oh, God. Them be the fault. You get what I'm saying. We're hearing about bodies and shit. Like, such, such, like you said on another one in interviews, he was like, one of the niggas came down with y'all got smoked. He ain't come with us. He was just a nigga, like, from there.

Yeah, but I'm saying, we ain't got smoked. No one, wrong, they didn't got his ass smoke. But you were hearing that as a young nigga, like, oh, see, he probably, you know what I said, he didn't know him. pounds a week. You get what I'm saying? It's sort of shit that's kind of gnom. I still don't feel like you can ever be groomed to murder, like, homicide and shit. So I feel like... You can get numb to it, but I'm saying there's no, nothing that you can go through leading up that will make you

process it different than any other person. I feel, I feel like... Some people mine are weaker than others. No, I feel like we just talk to suppress how we feel as black men. That's the only difference. But got down, so we think we're doing better than what we is because we were taught that the niggas just suck it up and keep on going. So that's probably the only difference between us and veterans. But what my point is is veterans are losing people that they knew for got down six months, three months, four months. Niggas losing niggas, they knew forgot down 15 years.

So if they, all I'm saying is, okay, even if they weren't ready for it, whatever, whatever, The level that they be PTSD be at, I know street niggas is something similar. That's my point. But that, to me, if I went the walls a whole bunch of niggas, they ain't no like, push-knit. You can't say that. You can't say that.

You can't say that. You're waking up with these, niggas. You're playing spades with these niggas every day. Yes, I got to get back home. You a girl, you're a bond, bro. 21-year-old bank, man. 21-year-old bank, man. You ain't goddamn Afghanistan, man.

You're in a, y'all in a tent on a fucking base, nigga. Y'all wake up every day. Y'all work out for a while. Listen, bro, y'all wake, y'all work out every day. Yeah. Y'all play spades. Y'all eat together. Y'all got damn wash the game together.

Y'all start, man, bragging. How long before we go to walk? Bray, I got three kids, bro. Here, here go on their pitchers, bro. Yeah, I got two. This is my wife. Woo-woo. Bro, you naturally going to go a brown with a nigga, bro.

You didn't grew bond with people since you started doing this podcast. That you love like your day one. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so that's the same thing. It's work. This is work, and you grew bonds with people at work. But I'm going to bond with these people that's not on the battlefield. We in Afghanistan, I know half of these knick from the die.

Bro, you don't. I'm just keeping it real. Bro, that's not. You can't say. I ain't been to bill too much with these folks. You can't say that. I ain't any kind of bill too much. Brother shit.

This is what I'm saying, you don't just go from zero to Afghanistan, bro. Your ass being training. y'all being training first and then you get deployed. It ain't like you just get deployed with a whole bunch of niggas you've never seen before. That's it like saying you go to jail and everybody in your dorm that you built some with

when they get out, y'all come overhead of me. That's the same thing. You build bonds when you in jail. Like, nigg got to jail, a nigga be in jail with niggas. Man, you get out of jail. They'd be happy to get the fuck away around them niggas. No, you're taking what I'm saying.

I'm not saying that they be cumbed by you. I'm saying if that, if them dying at war bringing them that, that, level of trauma, nigger, and they didn't grow up with them, then our level of trauma got to be damn there higher. Oh, no, I agree with that. That's all I'm saying. No, 100%.

But I don't feel as if, though, my, that shit there would do the same thing as like somebody ever. No, I ain't saying that it would. I'm just saying that we as shriek niggas, as black men, right? We don't look at our mental as as big as a problem. is it probably be because we talk to suppress shit. That's my point. I agree.

And I'm saying if a nigger can be that fucked up in the head behind some niggas that he knew for six months dying, then you got to be more fucked up than what you think you is, but you're just pushing it somewhere else. Oh, for sure. And it's fucking up something else in your body. That's what I'm saying. No, for sure. I agree with that one hundred percent.

Because a nigga, even with days, nigger, every time, I'm just being in house, I might cry about that shit for nothing. Oh, God. I cry about Johnny. Nick, Johnny died got down 12 years ago. go. But we letting it out, though. Niggas ain't trying to kill their self and do all that shit.

These niggas be doing. Yeah, but that's because we talk to suppress it. That's my point. We ain't being open with our emotions. We only gonna cry in the house. When the girl cooking, she downstairs, we ain't just walking around. Nigger be having thoughts. Nigger might be in the car by their self and just have thoughts and shit.

Facts. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But we're like, hell, no, I'm tripping, bro. I miss you, bro. I'm tripping. What I'm saying? No, fact.

I am. So how you, so, what you think, like, shift your mindset from the street? Like, when you was in the street, like, man, I got to do this new shit. I got to do something else. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't really get all the way out of the streets to the money start coming. So, the money. If I ain't make no money, I would have still been doing what I had to do.

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Strong. Measy. Or what he would say about me. Loyal. True lawyer. T.J. Say I'm a bitch. What T.J?

T.J. Steele here? Mm-hmm. He's behind a little thing. What a savage drink said, T.J? Where do we eat at? Oh, yeah. Hold on. Uh-uh. Ice with that shit, man.

I don't know I got my wife. Hey, so whatever, what was they say? I was asking, what Harold say? Smart. You ever want to smart, you know, I give you that. So do you think you played Dawn before? Yeah, yeah. I already played Don.

Why? So I need to think I'm done, and then I get tricked. Have you ever caught yourself trying to slick a doubt to the route shit? Like, tell the truth, bro. Adapt, no. In what way, though? Like, I always did my own thing, bro. I ain't, I'm just saying.

But still, though, you know, like, coming in this shit, you did, you always did your own thing. I always held. But I'm saying, still cross your mind, like, I might need to. Have they ever crossed your mind? Like, I might need to do this because this was, you know what I'm saying? Unless Meesey didn't ask me to do it. Some shit that I didn't want to do, and I did it for Measy, a gym. Like what?

Like some of you ain't paying the tent? Like what? Like just like certain songs, they might be like, oh, we like this one. And I'd be like, fuck that song. And they keep the same. We like it, though. All right, go ahead. Shit like that.

Or do this magazine or do this, do that. Shit like that. But you say you ain't never compromising yourself, period, no matter with it. No. If in my heart, I feel like, no, I don't need to do this, I'm not going to do it. What about like all the dressing shit? You never thought like, damn, I need to finally got to put on these little bit of ad pants and little bit of that shit.

Shit. I'm just asking. Somebody like, thorn. Fuck no, nigger. I need to go cropp on these. Hell, nah. You never thought about doing that shit? Hell, fuck, no.

That shit wasn't even fit me. That should have fucked my career. They were like, man, what the fuck wrong with that nigga? That guy then went too goddamn route. It went too real. That nigga, too cute. Fuck, no. Hell, nah.

What's the shit if you could change about the streets? Like I asked about the rap game, what's your chain for the street? You said ego for the rap game. What about the street? The streets? I make it to where all you can do in the streets is hustle. Come on with you, though.

You be drinking up? Yeah, that's a motherfucker take it. That's out of my boy, Philead. Let me get one. I'm drink one. I'm gonna drink one. It's all good. I might have been drinking out of them.

Grab that one. I would make it so goddamn. All you can do is hustle. Can't kill nobody. You got to be consequences to the money, huh? That's one thing about the streets is like, if you can't hook, no violence. Don't say. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

No violence. You can't rob nobody. Robbing is not a hustle to you? Yeah. But that's going to lead to violence. It is a hustle. I know some niggas, that's how they do is, Rob. They said rob and they're hustling.

That's they hustle. That used to be a hustle for me. Just mix it with the other hustle. Shit gets slow. Ain't no move. That's what we gotta do. That is a hustle, though, bro. That's why they say you can't knock no nigger hustle.

When they came out and said, And they came out and said, like, I remember you first tell me, like, but I'm going to get the e-boys on the phone or whatever, uh, Lucci and, uh, and, um, slime, right? Like, why you always feel like you got to patch nigger shit up, though? Because you did that with me? Like, I'm saying, what, you feel like that's, that's who you are? Like, no, I just felt like, me and Lucci always been good. Yeah.

Lucci knew like, shit, I fuck with slime. So got down. Like, it ain't, when we see each other, we're speaking shit, but we just didn't overly kick it type of shit. If I just watched two niggas, I almost lose their freedom behind some shit. Why not got down, bring y'all together like play a role, like try. Why not put the bug in y'all ill? Because they still really connected on their own. I just put it in both of their ill, like, to do it, you know what I'm saying?

So it was like, got down. Luchy was still in jail and got down. I had wrote him and somebody wrote me back from his page or something and got down. I told him like, got down, shit, I want you, what you, how you feel about seeing down with brough? But slime was already out. So got down. After he's, Luchy was like, shit, hell yeah, but I ain't gonna do it while I'm locked

up shit. When I come home, we could put something together. But I hadn't already talked to Slime about it too. He was like, bro, I ain't never really had no problem with him, like, woo-whoop type shit. So then when Lucci got out, got down, slime was working on his album and he was playing songs and shit. And I was like, man, why you gonna put Lucci on that, ooh-whoop type shit? And he were like, well, I already been talking to Lucci, got down.

He had DM you, whatever, bro. I'm a cinema song, though. Then I ended up doing that. But I don't know. I just felt like, shit, y'all niggas then went through everything you can go through dealing with beefing with each other. Like what more can come from the shit? But death or goddamn jail forever, so shit, I don't know.

I just felt like got down, I fought with this nigger and I fought with this nigger. Shit, trying to put them together. Have you ever tried to put this shit together that just wouldn't work? Why being dirt? being dirt. But dirt locked up. So goddamn, he can't really talk. But I didn't have conversations with YB and I didn't have conversations with dirt people. Yeah. Type shit. But he ain't worked. But goddamn. I didn't try. Feel what I'm that I'm saying? What do you think make you, but can't on a nigga patch your shit up though? I patch my shit up. Well, he didn't pack shit

up. I ain't from the same. I'm just saying, but do you think if a nigga, what would make you not pass some shit up? And what would make you not even try to make, like, man, y'all need to fix this, like, ain't even call these, that shit too far? Um, what would make me not pat some shit up? Won't none make me not pat some shit up as long as what's done to me, what's done to you too? Like, that was the most serious shit, like, shlam and Lucha. That was some serious shit. But most of the shit the niggas be into.

it about, niggas don't even know why they're into it. Right. Like, right. Like, it'd be like, shit, bro, I don't know. Like, when it comes down to it, niggas don't even know how I started. Right. So, what's some shit that nothing happened? Like, you know how a nigga might, I just don't fuck with that.

They got a weird vibe. Like, can a nigger pass that up with a nigger? You just can't feel his energy. Like, I just don't fuck with these nigg. Yeah. But they gotta be like, I gotta feel like it's genuine. And some niggas, some niggas just ain't meant to be cool. Facts.

Like everybody don't always mean to be cool with everybody, right? Some niggas that's just like, we don't got a problem, but we're not cool. We're not like friends either. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not one of them niggas who is like, well, you got to be cool with me or if you aren't with me, you're against me. I don't feel like that.

I feel like, shit, nigger, if got down, if got down, you feel some type of way about me or whatever. We just don't get along. that's fine, bro. I was waiting on you to say some whole-ass shit on the car, but you better be glad, but you stood on a biddy on the car. I don't think.

I probably did. They probably just didn't put that out. I don't know. Say it's something in there or something. It might be. It might be, y'all. You sound like you were level-headed, though, bro, on the car.

Yeah. Because I don't feel like, I feel like shout it wrong, but I don't feel like He did it on purpose. Who? Gunner. That's just my opinion.

So why you ain't try to patch that up? Why? I don't feel like that could be passed up. I try to put them niggins on group tech. Those niggins ain't nobody say nothing. I don't, I don't feel like, I feel like the only way that would be patched up is if gonna say something to him. Because slime didn't do nothing wrong to me.

I kind of see. The only situation, the only thing I told Slime was, this your young nigga man, you know this young nigga, right? Yeah. You knowing your heart, God damn. Then I can't say that neither, because it'd be like, I'd be like going back and forth about this shit. Because in my heart, I don't feel like he did it to hurt him.

But then again, I feel like niggas do do anything to get out. out sometimes too. Niggas do get in that space in their head where it's like, bro, fuck that I'm ready to come home. But this is how I think he was thinking. Like, this is just my opinion. I feel like Gunner was thinking his head, well, I ain't saying I seen slime do nothing. I ain't saying no specific, nothing that I seen nobody do nothing like, oh, I seen this

happen. I seen this person shoot this person or I seen them lead to go kill him. I felt like he felt like what he was saying wasn't really snitching in his head like, shit. It's just like saying some shit. But niggas saying they got down, you've seen niggas commit crimes on behalf of Yassel, that that's bad, bro. That's not good. Like that don't, it don't, no matter your intention to the people, to the world, well, not

to the world, because the world switched at first they were saying, got down. He was wrong. Now they're saying he right. But got down to like, niggas like me and shit, like, gun to call me when he first got out, bro. I was sitting in the bed. He was like, bro, what's time? Like, boy, y'all at home, boy, who, who, who, you got.

good. Ooh, I ain't even see the video yet. Boom. Got down. See the video. He called me, I think I, I think he was leaving the jail or something the first time I talked to him. He just got in the house. The second time he called, I think he was telling me pull up, like everybody was at his spot. So got down, I didn't see him the video now. So I'm telling him like, bro, that shit looked bad, twin. He like, man, the lawyer tricked me, man. I ain't even know like, woo. So I'm like, got down. I'm like, got down. I'm like, Like, shit, you can't get a plea back, because before he, before Gunney even got locked up, he was calling me.

And I, like, when they put the shit out, like, they was looking for him. And I told him, like, bro, don't keep running because that's going to fuck up your chances of getting a bond even more. The longer you got down, like, go ahead and turn yourself in and shit. So, got down. I told him, like, shit, see if you can get a plea back, like, because I'm telling you is going to make you look a certain type of way, like, to the public. Like, it's going to stain you.

I believe you that you didn't know what you was doing, but I can't really say that you think because you've grown, but if that's what you're going with, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that after relationship that we do got. I'll let you say that to me and I'll take that for what it is. Maybe you really didn't know type shit. But at the end of the day, how I look at the situation, I'm like, man, slime should have never been saying certain shit. Like, he should have never broadcasted the shit to the internet and shit.

Like, it could have been like a behind club, like, like silence, speak louder than anything sometimes. So just slime getting out And them seeing like Ain't nobody fucking with Gunna They would know You get what I'm saying Like that's how you felt

If you wanted If your intention was to let the world Know that you don't fuck with Gunna You never had to say it really publicly type shit But I do understand A nigga being in their emotion Sometimes and moving off emotions

Because niggas do do that too Type shit Yeah But but got down He could have just not said nothing And they would have Went off that type shit I look at it like this

I look at it like this I feel like, like you said. But what he did, he didn't necessarily snitch on a nigga, like, say, this nigga did this. But you saying you're helping them prove their theory. What you did help them prove their theory, whether they were going to use it or not. Like, niggas keep saying, oh, they weren't going to use it. But y'all don't know jurors watch shit, bro. They're not supposed to, but jurors see shit on the internet, bro.

So if the jury's seeing a headline where Gunnison, Got-down, yes, this is a gang and got-down niggas committed crimes. People see that. I don't know if he did it intentionally. I don't feel like that. Just my vibe from him, I don't feel like that. But I do feel like he wrong because definitely when all this shit said and done, bro, before Slime even started tween when he got out, he was quiet for a minute.

He didn't say nothing for a minute when he first got out. Man, call that nigger phone. Hey, pick up, bitch, that. No, you write about that. You write about that. You write about that 100%. I feel like they would have probably had a conversation. If you got to think, I'm already hearing you from jail saying these shit.

Remember they leaked the call and furrow. He was like, bro, put the shit out, man, I need to dish the boy on the album, whatever. Right. They had already put that out, so we already knew. But this is how I operate, bro. Let me talk to you. Just me as a man. Not even that.

I'm not judging you off. None I don't post the hill. Just as a man. I don't care what you tell Shantay, bro, about me in the bed. You might say, look at man, tripping, man. It's got to keep talking for this nigger. I'm supposed to hear that shit, man. That's you and your girl talking.

So I'm not going to hold that against you. Well, I know it, like, and hear it and be like, damn, he said it, yeah. But I'm not going to hold that against you. So even slime saying this shit while he locked up, nigga, you know you don't. For one, don't possibly be hearing it. And for two, what you did was wrong. So just take that on the chair. Yeah, no, I agree with that.

You see what I'm saying? No, I agree with that. I just feel like, me personally, I feel like they would have been able to help. Like you said, ego is involved now. It's like, what I'm going to come say now, if you are going to show me, fuck me. And I feel slime. It's like, I can, I can, I can, I can forgive an enemy before I can forgive a friend that I feel like cross me. Easy.

Right. Because you, you ain't getting them with an enemy for to do. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I can forgive you easy. Like, niggily ask me that, like, how you can say it's cool with this, because this nigga didn't owe me no lunch. I want to ready to die and go to the chain game for the nigg. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I'm saying? We're cool, but we ain't cool. But a person that I really genuinely took in and loved you, it's like, I ain't going to be able to get back down with you.

It's going to be worse us trying to patch some shit up. So I see it from Schline's side and I see it from Gunn's side for us. Bray, and then I can say he already showed me how he feels. Oh, no, either one of them feel like this, but I'm just saying, I put myself in both of their shoes. If it was slime, I love this nigga to death. If I was sline, I'd be like, I love this nigga to death. But I can't trust you, bro.

Because when I was at my lawyers, you chose you instead of us. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. However we look at it, if you write or wrong, whatever he said, finesse, whatever, to me, that's how I would feel. I chose. And I don't went out there too far to turn other niggins against you, like, fuck you, so it's fuck you. But I look at Garner, on the other hand, like.

I don't think that's, that was slying real feelings, though. I don't either. I know. But he went out there like that, though. Yeah, he went out there after some out of time because he got pissed off. Now, he went out there after real. No, he didn't. He went out there from jail.

He went out to, yeah, you're talking about in that way. I'm talking about when he got out, when he had the opportunity. Nigger, niggas confused him just saying rat, rat, rat is Gunna. Gunna ain't the only nigga that told on that case. So every time he said rat, they just automatically apply to the gunner. He ain't really start saying specific shit till later, bro. And I feel like he did that because he like, my goddamn daddy put us in a group chat. And you ain't said nothing.

Well, I don't got to respond to the group chat first. He broke it down. me wrong. So, so, nigga, you, like, this is what niggas problems be, bro. The little brother I always struggled with being able to be, like, take their discipline as the little brother. Niggas cool with being a little brother when there's money, success, all this shit. But when they fuck up, it's like, no, I'm a man too. Yeah. Yeah, you're a man, nigga, but you still a little brother. So you're supposed to come back around, take your, whatever your discipline is, your goddamn lecture. If a nigga, chump you off or whatever. Even if you're, you're

we don't see eye to eye after that, but at least I know in my heart you valued our relationship enough that you tried instead of just like giving me like, man, I don't give a fuck. That nigga called me a wreck. I don't give a fuck that, fuck that nigga. I don't care about clearing that shit up to him. But I don't feel like I understand gunnicide too because like, damn, y'all y' y' y'all nigh is attacking me or whatever the case like. Hey, no, he could feel like, and I don't know how a man feel.

I'm just saying he could feel like. That's what I've been doing now. That's why I shoot his perspective because I always try to put myself in other people's It could feel like, like shit, bro, it's already what it is, and there ain't nothing I can do. I feel like, before Sline got out, it wasn't that far gone, bro. Motherfuckers would have forgot about that shit. But a nigga... Man, nigga, I talked to Wham, nigga, and Wham told me, got down.

He wasn't on no overly like, boy, fuck that. That nigger told shit. He wasn't on that. He was on some shit like, shit. I'm playing out how I have a bro on a player. Like, I really don't tell you can speak on that shit. Yeah, yeah. But niggas, like, he had a little song with...

with damn where he said, got down. Niggas take him, please. I know slime ain't happy. Brud, he ain't the only nigga that took a plea. Yeah. Like, niggas just, he's just the biggest person. So it's like, if a nigger say anything, a nigga automatically linked that to a gunner.

But you got to think about the internet, too. If the niggas say that, who else is he talking about? We don't even know these other niggas. But niggas still could be talking about them. You don't know, niggas don't know about half the niggas. I'm talking out on my album. When I say rat and shit,

you don't know what going in my life because I don't bring that shit to the internet. You just, you're making your, own narrative and taking it, taking something with it and just putting fire on some shit. But when you don't put that dress on it's for everybody. So when you leave it out there, it's whoever we think it is. All right, but that's on you. That ain't me saying you.

So if the shoe fit, you put, you put the shoe on. Yeah. You were right. You was born with that shoe size. I didn't make your foot. So got down, if I say something, if I'm just saying that's real shit, nigger, if I say something, nigger, and the shoe fit, your foot was that size. Yeah.

I didn't make your foot that size. Yeah. So a nigger can't take that no type of thing. Take that note's though type of way. Yeah, you're right. Like, got down, but niggas, niggas been saying rat. I got a song on Savage Mode 2. That shit came out in 2020 called Snitches and Rats.

I was talking about Gunna back then. You probably will. This nigga Craig. I always had a good relationship with Gunna, bro. I told him, man, I ain't going to say nothing about you. Just like I told Rollo, I ain't going to say nothing about you on the internet. But, bro, you did. You did wrong.

From what I'm seeing, what I've saw, it looked wrong to me. But you came out of the rip and tried to help Rollo. Yeah, because he showed me some shit that looked it right. And I seen some shit that looked wrong. But his shit is weird, too, because it's like... So how they're telling? What you mean? I'm saying.

The only thing, the only thing is it's just certain verbiage in his shit that just made me be like, I don't know, but it ain't to the point, like, I ain't any stressing he told. No, no. I don't care the stress he told. I told him, bro, I ain't gonna speak on you, bro, because I don't fucking know. It's too much shit, it's too many, like, different shit. It's just too much shit for me to be going on my face trying to just overly say some shit. Then some most shit come out and it's true.

Some most shit come out on his wrong. So the best position I could put myself in with you is to tell you, bro, look, I fuck with you, but got down, I can't fuck with you. I want to fuck with you because this shit is too much. of a question mark on this shit, bro. At the end of the day, I ain't going to talk about you. I ain't going to call you no rat. I ain't called none of them. I ain't went up on Instagram and called nobody no rat or whatever.

Let me ask you something though. Do every crew have a, have a rat, buddy? Like, let's be real. Like, from back in the day, like, you slick, toe back in the day. For sure. Every crew booed us, so we all booed to go for us. We don't got no rat, buddy. That hang around us?

That grew up with us, that toe to hang around us. We don't have that. They did some questionable shit. No. On my mama, nigger, no. Period. No. Zero.

I already know them y'all nigger like. Man, Chuck, Crucial, Rock, Harrow. Man, ain't none of them niggas never did. No questionable shit ever. What about from the neighborhood? Of course, but them niggas got cut off when we were John. Well, y'all right-out-toe hell on. So if one of them niggas you named did some questionable shit, is you gonna move the gold profile?

No, nigger. What's, what you're gonna do? I love you. I wish you to do. the best in life, my brother. We're getting old, but your ass told, man. And you know we don't do that. It ain't about no street shit.

It ain't about no tough shit. It ain't about none of that, bro. It's about just the cold and just our morals and principles as men. We just don't do certain shit, bro. What about the people like being told on me? Just like being your girl. We don't play that. Beeing up your girl, slapping your girl around.

We don't beat women, bro. That's one of the things that me and my niggas stand on as brothers. We don't beat women. We take care of our goddamn kids, because we look at that just like telling. You got got down 50 kids in the street. You ain't did nothing for now, why on? Yeah. Nigel, you'll get jumped on for that, for doing that.

So it ain't got nothing to do with no super tough street shit, bro. It's just certain shit that we look at a certain way. Yes, my day one, my blood brother, bro. If my blood brother, well, because my other little brothers ain't in the street, they're just regular niggas smoke, we go to work, shit like that. But my little brother who was in London, who got killed. If he would have told, I would have never talked to him again. But you always be someone trying to say what niggas won't do, too, though, sad.

What you mean what niggas won't do? Like, remember when I was going through shit, I was like, all right, niggas will do that shit. You're like, not my niggas. Not my niggas, my niggas won't cross me. They won't do that. I ain't, I ain't going to lie because I don't do shit. So what the fuck can you cross me with? No, I'm saying, like a thief.

Yeah, niggas do shit. That's what I never said that when never happened. No, when you do like. I said snitching, bro. I feel like my nif. niggas love me to the point on my mama, I feel like if I crashed out and did some dumb shit tomorrow, boy, Savage is killed the nigga in front of Walmart on camera for nothing. I swear to God on my mom and on my dad, brother, I feel like this in my soul, bro.

I feel like Little Harold, Rock, T.J. got down. I don't want to name all my niggas, but the main ones were going there and say, man, little man, didn't do that. I did that. That's how I feel in my heart, bro. So let me ask you something. Did you ever feel like old boy would do what he did? Yeah, for sure. Because he did a little, just, bro, I do little shit to, I play chase with niggas, bro. So I wanted him to do that. I'm glad he did that.

Like, I pay attention to shit, like, all right, you did this little shit, all right. Let me got down, let you linger around and see what that's a little shit you would do so I can cut you out before he'd get too far. But I pimp, Ben peeped shit, you know, used to stay with me. I knew he was doing something. The nigga used to lock his dough when he go to sleep. The fuck you locking your dough for a niggins, we 30 flows up. Yeah. Who the fuck coming up here?

Why is your dough lock? And every time I used to got down, wake him up, knock the dough, nigger comes to the door. Yeah, bro. Like, scared. Like, he think I'm gonna punch him or do something to him. I'm like, I think I told TJ about that shit. Like, man, they can keep acting weird every time I got down, wake him up or something.

And the nigger, dough I always locked, like, I see if you got a bitch in the room. It'll be times where it ain't any no bitch in the room. You just said that by yourself, do not like, you just, so I already just knew like, and he already did a little shit like that. And it's like, it's like, I forgive him. Go your separate way. Can that little shit add up to some shit that you would never thought a nigga do? You get what I'm saying?

Like, because people be around you, bro, they just be developing shit inside of them that you don't even know. See, I think, I think this is the difference between me and other niggas. That shit that you talk about, them type niggas don't get that close. to me. You're talking about shit that niggas close to me could do. Only a nigger close to me could do that. And a nigger ain't getting that close to me to got down, do some shit like what you're talking about. Like, no, that wouldn't happen. Them niggas who I named, my nudie, fat, fat, like the immediate niggas, drill, niggas like that? No, never, ever. And I put

any dollar I own on. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I feel like if a nigger ain't saying that you don't need to be around them niggas. If you don't feel like that about your niggas, why are you around them niggas? Yes. I feel you on that. Shit. I feel you on that, but shit,

when you put five nigger but out of five, one of them niggas ain't right. Maybe two or three. I don't think so. I think the five I got is the ones that ain't like that. I feel like when you got down, all type of niggas around you who just, my niggas ain't overly with all that gangster shit

just trying to just start shit with niggas and niggas is grown men. Niggas is living their lives, making money. They fucking bitches and doing whatever they want to do. They're doing the good part of life. We at that stage, or we had the good part of life. I ain't around little dusty-ass niggas who just, like, even the young niggas, they're on with the big bros on.

I feel like you are what you look up to is what you're going to be. So, nigga, I lead by example. I don't know, like, jerk-ass shit, like just on some wire hair with me ready to crash. nigga might rap like that. That should be kept in real life, I got down, go to the studio. I go check on businesses. I got down, have business conversations.

Got down going vacations. So, no, I don't feel like that. So I don't got them time of niggas around. So you're a studio guy? Overly. The biggest studio guys. The biggest one. Overly loaded.

The biggest one. I don't got. Nah, man. So. Crazy. Were you looking in the mirror what you see? Who you see? I see a nigga who I see a nigga who ain't ever stole rock.

I took advantage of none of his niggas. Oh. None of his niggas. Okay. His niggas. Yeah. I see a niggas. I see a niggins.

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My biggest accomplishment. My biggest accomplishment. I don't know. I think my biggest accomplishment would be the fact I could say my mama got two matches. That's my biggest accomplishment. Mm-hmm. From sleeping in the bunk bed together. Right.

Sleeping in the bunk bed. Now she's on. No mortgage, no now. And she'd be popping it, too. She got two bands, G-wagon, Richard Mill. Yeah. Yeah.

My mama's shinned on rappers, man. Facts. That's my biggest accomplishment. No, for sure. How did you feel, though? I had to go to that show with you out there in London. No, the first time back. What's the name of that thing you did?

O-2. Oh, 2. How that shit felt just to go back home? She was hard. So that was your first time leaving the country going to perform? Well, you know, they count Canada as another country. So, technically, Toronto, but London, like, so we're leaving for real. How you, I see Drake, sit shot your own song, like, you're based on a nigga that be tapping in with.

Right. How you keep that relationship like that instead of getting on, you know, getting at the table? I don't ever think I, I ain't ever really been at no table, man. I'm just asking, bro. I'm just asking, like, you know how, like, what with Drake? I, me and Drake just, I don't. It's just the relationship keep itself. Just like me and Metro.

I tried to get them together. Long, long, long before all this shit happened. What happened? You know, some nigga just. Metro felt how he felt. Metro felt a certain type of way about something. Drake told me and Metro that he understood where he was wrong. And he apologized.

multiple times, but I feel like Metro just felt how he felt. But I feel like now Metro is kind of more open-minded. I feel like he, like, I don't know, I feel like Metro been through a lot. So, you know, like I feel like sometimes the shit just don't be the right time. But I feel like in the future, the near future, we'll see them work together again. Do you think the damage is done? Do you think like Drake took a hit? Do I think he took a hit?

Yeah. He's still the number one screened niggins this year. Yeah. I feel like he took an internet hit. But then he'd be like, damn, did you take an internet hit? Because screaming, you got to go on the internet to scream. And I'm still the number one nigga screaming. Yeah.

I feel like to certain people, they might say he took a hit by, I don't look at that shit like that. I don't know. I told that nigga not the in. You do all that shit anyway. He told that nigga leave that shit alone. But got down. He felt like he was being challenged lyrically,

so he wanted to respond. People chose who they... You know what I told Drake? He called me one of them days. I called him. This was after the first song, the song with Metro now. And I said, got down. down, I said, you're going to a battle that you can't win.

Like, there's no way you can win. That's your name. When you, no matter what, bro, certain situations, even if you win, you still don't win. Like, the, the, the, what he would have got if people would have quote-unquote say he won, because I don't really look at, like, who won or who lost if, nigga, I'm still being screened the most. Like, so, but people say, like, oh, Kendrick won. Kendrick, a good-ass rapper, though.

You get what I'm saying? Some of his songs was hard, but got down Drake. I like Drake's songs too, you feel what I'm saying? But I feel like the only difference is when you're at the top, when you're the number one nigger, where does winning put you? You can't go like number 1.1. So how the fuck could you win anyway? That's what I told him.

Like how can you, how can you win? But it's ego involved though. Niggas ain't gone. It's definitely ego. And it's just, some niggas just love, Drake really love this shit. Like, Kendrick really loved a rap. I don't really give a fuck about rapping like that. Like, I do, but I don't at the same time.

Not to that point where I got down, I want to just, like, a nigger dissing me ain't gonna inspire me to make, like, to make no song. I'm gonna do something else to y'all at. But got down, but got down. But some niggas, that shit like, that do, they do something to them. Like, what a nigga think of you? Who do you think of you? But I don't know, bro.

I feel like the internet just be ready to tell the niggas down, man. Because I'd be even seeing that shit about me. And I'd be seeing that shit about baby. And I'd be like, bro, on my mama, brother, I really feel like baby shit, he's been dropping hard as a motherfucker. It is. Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? They just want to, they tell the top niggas down.

Yeah, for sure. So how can you win a battle when niggas want you to lose it? Even if you win, you lose. Yeah. No matter what, even if Kendrick never responded, man. If Drake just dropped songs and got down, Kendrick never responded or nothing, he still don't win because his position didn't change. He was already the top nigger.

Yeah, but that shit sounds different when them folk got down playing your shit at Super Bowl. But this song, that shit hit different. Yes. Huh? I guess. That shit hit different. Like, you know. Numbers don't lie.

But shit, bro, that shit got to feel a certain type of way, why? You're talking about to hear a nigga diso you at the Super Bowl? Yeah, and to goddamn them arena, them folk, like, homie, you know,

Kendry been a great artist all this time or whatever. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? But he ain't had that look. That Drake did this one look been his biggest look. Drake couldn't get that from him.

Facts. That's why my point was. Yeah. You said he should just left it alone. He would have just been looking like he'd tearing a good nigga that mine their business down. So people, the folk really want to see the underdog win. When you win, they want to tell you down. It's red, man.

Even if Drake won, he would have been the bad guy for winning. Yeah. He would have still been like, man, fuck that. Because Kendrick, one of them rapper rappers, like, got down. He knew how to say, like, different shit, like, writing shit. You get what I'm saying. Like, Jake Cole like that. They could consider them like the holy, the holy emcees, yeah, emcees.

Not sincere, but it is. A emcee really can't lose. You can't lose if you're an emcee for real. But Drake is a emcee for real, but he got down, make hits too. He a hybrid. So it's different. So it's like goddamn niggas, look at them. But Meek wasn't emcee?

Nah, meek was a, meek a emcee, but he really won them type emcees, bro. Meek ain't made, just going to know, just making no super, like. nine-minute song where he just like, like, got down saying crazy metaphors the whole time and shit. Meek is like a trench MC. It's timing. He's like, me is a for the streets emcee. He know how to be like MC enough, but it's on some street shit.

That's why we hold him to the standard that we hold him. But he ain't like Kendrick and Cole. Kendrick and Cole like up there with nods and... I ain't even talking about like big shit. I'm talking about like just the... what the culture view their lyrical or their pen as. You got Jid or you got me. They're two different type of rappers.

Yeah, like Jid like that. Yeah. And them type niggas, they automatically are like, what's the word? Like, the culture is protective over them anyway, just by a default. Because they're doing some shit that the general culture don't really do no more. So they look at like y'all niggas keeping the real essence of hip hop alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're going at them, you got a battle that off the real.

Yeah, that's why everybody champion it. Then you got, like, the woke niggas that do that shit, too. Like, the other rappers, like, the niggas who be earthy and shit. Who that woke nigga in that being getting at you on line? Who that is? Who? This a nigga be on that. Because he called me that interview, but he's like, well, I gotta say something about your

boy, I can't think of that nigga name. You know the nigga, he'd be like I grew up with him? Man, bro. I don't say that. I ain't say it. I'm just ask you who the fuck. I don't know who the fuck that is, bro. Oh.

Nick, mad at hell of you. That nigga got down to DM me like where I was going to post you, but I ain't even see your grandma died. What the fuck you even deem me that for then, Nick? Contraised, nigga. Hold on. He said, what? I was feeling to get at you, basically. Yeah. But I see you going through something.

Yeah. He a fan. What's you do to that man? I don't know, bro. That nigga wanted to come on the park here. I tell him, nah. Contride, nigga. Where the fuck we were talking about?

Doing a rapper. Let me see. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, niggas, niggas be like, yeah, he liked that. I guess. Shit ain't doing good for him, but he liked that. But got down. Yeah, like, niggas already protecting him type of niggas, so like,

Drake automatically was going to be, motherfuckers wanted Drake to lose him. Like, no matter what, I ain't saying he lost, because to me, nigger, if I, if I go through all that, through all that. All these people say they turned against me or whatever. And I'm still the number one screen rapper. I didn't lose to me. That's just, but people have different motives of what they do this shit for. That's my, I want to be the top screen nigga so shit. But got down. What I'm saying is no matter what, he couldn't win. That was a rig. It was rig. I'm not saying

that Kendrick rigged it or no shit like that. I'm just saying just the culture and people in the world, it was a lose-lose situation. If you win, shit, you really ain't say nothing like that anyway, though. The bars was really weak. Like, that would have been there. You know what I'm saying? They would have came up with a way

to discredit him, basically, what I'm saying? Because you're already on top. Exactly. Like you said, you ain't no 1.1. You're right about that, man. So you think that shit that'll ever be back? Cool. Drake and Kendrick?

I don't know. I ain't never had no conversation with Drake about Kendry, about, like, how he feel about Kendry. All he talked about to me was about, like, just the songs and just, like, we'll say little shit or whatever, but just like, how you feel about him? I don't know. And I ain't never met Kendra. I don't know Kendra.

I never talked to him. So goddamn. I don't know really like what type of nigger he is to know, like, if he would want to goddamn ever be back cool. Who to go from a limb? The goat from Atlanta. Nigger, me, nigga. I ain't from to say no other, nigga.

Not a rapper than anybody, bro. Just anything else. Besides you, who the other goat? Nudy. Fuck you talking about, nigga. Who else? Drill. Who else?

Harold. Rio. Rio. Who the goat outside of your crew? your crew. The goat outside of my crew. I can't just say nobody to goat, bro. Atlanta is a collective.

Every nigger before you helped you. So you can't just, I say Atlanta is the goat. We're the goat. Can't say no one, nigger. I could give you multiple niggas. I can't just give you one nigger. Because if I give you one nigger, there's going to be ways that a nigger can discredit or say that, okay, but this nigger did all this. We said my little king when I was talking to do you, but.

I was talking to Lucci, but Tari Spone, shot outside of the O.G. Tari Sponger, he takes him and said Gladys Nike to go out of the city. Glad to night. Who bigger than, uh, MLK, though? Nobody. Mine with the king of the goat. I mean, guys screaming every goddamn city.

Let the goat then. Who to rap goat, Andre 3,000? He one of them. There's no just undeniable. This is the greatest nigger of Atlanta. It can't. It can't. There's too many niggas.

Who don't made the most money? That don't mean there's niggas who don't even rap that made the most money. What rap nigger done made the most? What rap nigger done did the most in Atlanta? What rap nigger than did the most? You can't say that. You can't say that, bro. You can't because you can name a nigger in his career made $300 million, but he only made $15 out of $3 million.

made $15 out to $300. Yeah. The way his deal structured and shit, it doesn't matter if it did fuck up or not. That matter. No, he didn't get the money, but who's generated the most money? Which artist maybe ever generated? What artists generated the most money?

Yeah. I don't know. Outcast? Probably. You boy, diamond. Speak about love below. All that. You got to think that's the greatest group of all time.

You know how much money you should do this? OutKead. Outcast, I feel like Tia.I. Outcast, T.I. We're talking my rapper, me. Outcast, T.I. That's a rapper, man. You got to put future in there.

Future. No, for sure. Outcast, T.I. Future. Gucci. Generating money? Yeah, generate money. Whose career is generating the most money? Outcast, Future, Gucci, Tia.

Gee. Gotta say Jeezy, you know. Love, baby. Me. You can't wait to say he. Come on, bro. Don't wait to say he. Duh.

I'm saying Jeezy say he not from Atlanta though. Ludacris. Jeezy say he not from Atlanta. Luda from Chicago. I'm saying, do Jeezy say he from Atlanta? Like, is that what, do he claim Atlanta? I feel like people always just lumped Atlanta on him because they just didn't know shit about Atlanta.

So they just, if y'all asked from Georgia, you're from Atlanta. I feel like he always repped making this shit. Like he always, that's what he repped. Nah, peace up A-Town down. Nika, that's Usher, nigga. Yeah. That's her. Oh, yeah, peace up.

A-Town down. Who did that first time? Usher did it first. Usher did it first. Yeah. Yes, for sure. We didn't say first, second or third, bro. He said that, man.

He said he probably loved. I'm saying, Jeezy definitely one of the goats. But I'm saying I don't know if he claimed Atlanta. That's all I'm saying. But if he do, then yes, for sure, Jeezy. You're talking about who generated the most? I'm trying to think who generated the most money. Who's trying to figure out how we don't call a nigga a goat?

Because every time, it's got a way to make everything not even answer the question. But you can't really say that. It can't. You can't. Who's the goat in your mind? If you want a rapper, who you'll be looking at like, that that nigga? Nobody. Let's count.

I ain't riding no nigga dick, Twain. That one thing about y'iside, dick. I hate to feel like. They really slick hate though. So? You don't think a nigga do it to us too? Who the goat, bro? What nigger gonna get on here and say 21 Savage the goat?

I will. No, I'm talking about a rapper. You're an ex-rapper, so don't say you're a rapper. I'm a rap. No, you ain't no rap. What, nigga, which one of the big rappers from Atlanta? Don't get on here and say, I'm gonna go. But there's been niggas that you looked up to, bro, before you got the rap game.

Let's be real, man. God damn. I'm in this motherfucking now, though. All right. The draw is big. So all that got down. I looked up to you, that shit was for 20 years ago, nigg. It's a new sheriff in time.

That's fucked up, real. For real. Yeah. Bro, who was your goat before? Uh, Gucci. Oh, you said that I read. You said that already. Yeah, he did.

I told you. Meese, who was your goat? Meese, when you're throwing apart. In Atlanta? Yeah. The goat of Atlanta back in 2010? Yeah. Tia, Tia had that shit.

Tia and Gucci. The Tilt had that shit fucked up. I ain't gonna lie. Tilt overly had that shit fucked up. I need that shit fucked up. He had that shit fucked up. Well, I'm really at first. Yeah, he got so many hits.

It's ridiculous. I went through his shit a couple months ago to every album, and I was just like, damn, nigga, forget it. Yeah, it had to be Gucci and Tia. Hits, bro. That'll be my goat. If I'm just going to say rappers,

but new generation? Gucci and Tia. I'm giving it to Savage, but if I'm not including Savage, I got to say Future, bro. Yeah, you know, we're on the Six, but everything out of the Sixth to goaded to me. Seas shit.

That way, you know, I'm moved the Gold Post. That ain't moving to go, po? I will, though. Bro, this shit say a billion, a billion, a billion. And it's more. What the hell? What the hell? No, they're talking out with the rap shit.

Just anything. I'm biased when it comes down to the niggas out to see. That's just what it is. Oh, yeah, for sure, overly. Like, so. It's probably like that, though. Not really. Nigger be biased on their side.

You crazy as a motherfucker. Nah, really. Nigger's overly biased. Man, Savies ain't eating that big. These side ain't in Atlanta for real, bro. What's what I'm saying? You're gonna from Dakota. Right this shit

10 minutes away, bro Nick can get on the bus and be wherever the hell you're from in 10 minutes Right you feel that way What The nigger Say they from Atlanta

You know, I'm the one I was on sit there I told me We were taking everything All right to Augusta Nick We're on the east side We're taking everything

From Mawland to Augusta nigga This is six You know we did this Oh God We had everything We had everything you can think of We want all the east side, nigga, the ones.

Make the six to six. Yep. And they handling their business. Shit. If a nigga didn't include other hoods, bro, that's technically not. Because flat shows, bolder-cress, ain't none of that shit to sit technically. Cause of flat shows. Yeah, like the other side.

But I'm saying, like, what a hamph at and shit like that. Yeah. The Cowl County come now, bro. That's just the Cowl County. So it's technically not zone six. You know how small is zone six to be? It'll be Kirkwood, Edgewood, and Eastlake. Renner Town.

And Runners Town. Four neighborhood. We had that shit down before y'all came to, came. No, y'all always been in cahoots with us, bro. Eastlake Meadows is right there on Glenwood, right there. No, but you got to think, though, East, Zone 6 niggas didn't move nowhere but to all the spots. Like, we get money, we moved into all the spots. So it's still all the six to me.

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's the same people. And you ain't going to the Cab County Jail in... In Zone 6, in Edgewood. Yeah. We go to the same jam? Yeah, yeah.

But, you know, niggas just be... You know, niggas will pull that card when they can't say nothing else. Bought no, nigga, though. You can't say a nigga no bitch, a snitch or nothing. The next card you could say... That, that shit ain't in Atlanta. That nigga from the U.K. Bro, I slap the shit out you.

What's up, mate? Like, what the hell that mean? Nick, it's a hood in the UK. My mama from the projects in the UK and my daddy. My grandma's still living the same projects to this day in the UK. She don't want to leave. She don't want to leave. So you're saying the UK like a nigger was just waking up with 10 crumpets in the,

in the Buckingham Palace or something when they were going on. They should get dog to get dogs too early. The nigga be stabbing like a motherfucker. Shoot out of that shit. She got like three, four o'clock. Nah, that's just certain times of the year though. That's like certain times of the year. Oh, what time you get dark?

I think like wintertime it get dark early. I think like summertime it'd be smooth. Get dark like eight, nine. Oh, ain't. I know who's up there. It's like four o'clock. Yeah, but that was like November or some shit when we went. Right?

When that November? Yeah, November. What song? What song on there on your favorite song? I don't got no favorites on. No, it ain't. No, the fuck it ain't. I don't got no favorite song.

I like the head time. I had time and that wish. The halftime. Yeah. You ain't got no favorite song. What's your favorite song on that movie? Uh, Zola 6th freestyle. Oh, yeah, that hard.

That's my favorite song. Oh, yeah, and bang, bro. Damn, don't leave me all that motherfuckers. I said something on that album too, on that song too, though. Yeah, I did. Yeah. My critic on that motherfucker. Give me some merch.

I got you, bro. They ain't get me last time. I got you. I got you. And a plaque. Because you know that she's going flat. Oh, yeah, no, for sure. Oh, yeah, hey, court, give me a plaque for that, uh, that, uh, what that shit did you deal with Drake?

Herlox. Yeah, I need a plaid for that. What song was you on Herlox? She, the last one. I don't remember. Um, I remember. It was Drake by itself, but it's an interlude before that song. Yeah.

You said, fuck me and I said, some shit, yeah. You got mad because I said, fuck you. Yeah, see me that. What's next though, bro? When we're gonna get that, uh, Slaughter Game movie? A movie? Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. You're just gonna rap. Shit, that we're paying. I'm just saying, when you're gonna move off some different shit? I feel like, too, I'm gonna say this. I feel like y'all rappers, man, y'all are leading the culture and the streets.

streets. So I feel like a nigger, once you make it this far, how you don't make it all these beating strings, it's your duty to tell niggas right from wrong and what's lying. It's y'all niggins do they. Yeah. You think it's my duty to tell niggas. It's my duty to be a nigger daddy. No, because at the end of the day. That's what you just said.

Yes. It is. No, it's not. These nigg are grown in hell. These nigg know what's wrong. No, I'm just saying. Have you ever had to tell a little one right from Rome? Yes.

As an adult. Yes. With snitching? No, I ain't talking about snitching. What are you talking about that? I'm talking about web. Like you just said, it's mandatory. You can't beat you on me.

You can't this. You can't that. That's the shit got to be pushed out. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's shit got to be pushed out. This is how we rock. Because niggas can only see how you rock through your music and through interview,

but they don't see how you, what you're standing on, is what I'm saying. I feel like your niggas do it to let niggas know. Nah, we say this. We'll get on that, but this is what we stand on internally and morally. Right. You get what I'm saying? Because niggas don't know that.

Niggas think it's one way. Like I said, a nigger run up on bank and be like, shit, OG, I'm really with that. That's such, such, such, such, that's out for me. Like, that's what I want. No, nigger, grow up on me and say, oh, gee, I can shoot behind the scene for you. Or I can do this, I can do that, or I can, you know what I can, you know what I can

got damn be a sound guy. I don't need no shooter. Yeah. Oh God. Like, any time a nigger meet you, where the nigger, nigger ain't coming to you. Like, Seth, you know what, man? I appreciate it. Nigger overly coming to me on some work shit.

They don't approach me with no shooter shit. I'm just saying a nigger will. If you went to the neighborhood right, they stand in the hood and you see the niggas out there, a nigger be like, shit, bro, you know what? Anything, bro. Anything you need out here, beat. You need to be anything. I don't be like, bro.

What the hell are you talking about? I know, but I'm saying. just the narrative of the climate of the energy right now, period, bro, in the world. Not even just, I was just in Miami last week. Nick was just down there like, jeep ain't my fault, you're going to take moon, bro. I grew up on that shit, man. Bro, you need me for that. I don't even know you.

The fuck I'm gonna need you for. Right. It's just, I think it's our duty, bro, not just the rapist as I do. Anybody's in front of these mics and the camera to let niggas know, man, that shit is lame. Right. I ain't saying no hell of your business. Hell of your business if a nigga play with you

because we're men. Right. I can't tell a nigga out of field but a lot of this shit a nigga come lie to you for you to agree with his puss-ass war. Some pussy shit.

But you love the nigga so much that now you see, like I said this shit a hundred times say Vincent, I'm mad at a nigga by the hole, right? Yeah. Me and this nigga know we're mad by the hoe.

Yeah. You don't know. His people don't know. But what you do, when I tap you like, look how I'm fucking, look, I told them a nigga be hate. Yeah.

You look over there that the nigger. Lookin' like he hey, but he's mad by this hole, like me. This a whole water started because I'll convince you and everybody with me that them nigger looking crazy, but me and this nigga know we fucking the same home. Yeah. Shit like that don't be happening like that though. Yes, it do. Not like frequently how you making it do, bro.

Most of the time, niggas be mad about something that they ain't really telling you they mad about to something happened to justify it. That ain't no war shit though. This is what I'm saying? Honey of your business then, nigga with that. No, to somebody beg to justify, like, this pussy-assad

I got man shot while y'all was out there. Like, damn, them nigga shot at us? Oh, yeah. You see what I'm saying? That's how shit be happening that easy, bro. Yeah. Or get a fake fight happen.

Mm-hmm. I think everybody just need to be the violent shit alone. I agree with that, but I feel like it takes a- But they need to build a city called Crash Out City. And if y'all ass So gangster and you're so crazy, especially the rappers.

I'm mainly talking to the rappers. The rappers who act like, you got niggas who, yeah, I rap, but I don't be on the internet just like overly just saying shit about niggas and dissing niggas and shit like that. So the niggas who overly just be like, acting like they're just ready to crash out, Trump need to make a motherfucking city for these niggas. I know we got some land somewhere in America that ain't nobody using. where they test bombs and shit at. We're going to call this shit Crash Out City.

They got it. What? It's called Slab City. No laws there. Literally. In America? Look it up on YouTube, bro. All right.

Yeah. It's still federal laws, nigga. Yeah. Federal laws around the whole line. No, we're talking about federally Trump. Donald J. Trump. He got down built. He made this city, name this city.

Crash out city. Fucks in the National Guard everywhere. Crash out city. We're going to. We're going to come pick all y'all niggas up. Y'all want to crash and y'all hate y'all out's that bad, or y'all just hate the world that bad. We're going to pick all y'all up, put y'all on the plane,

and we're going to fly y'all to crash out city. When you get down this shit like calla duty, niggas, it's A.R. No, that's it. Nick, you go in the house, nigga, it's a gun right there. You got to go find the club, find the bullets, and you come outside. Everybody just crashed.

You said, you just wasn't on that. For real. Yeah. Purge. Purge. And don't nobody go to jail. Whoever survive, survive. You go home.

That's what you're thinking, but what can we do now? I told them the streets dead. I'm telling them what happened to the streets. The question was what happened to the streets. I was going to name the street the street's dead, but I'm like, I don't have dead and no title. So. What's the answer, though? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

What happened to the street? That's what we're trying to get to. They died. They died. How? Life, just time, just the internet getting in them. They didn't have no place being in the streets, they should have stayed on the internet. Rappers waiting till they got money and blew up to act like they kingpans and they gangsters.

You ain't never did none gangster your whole fucking life, bro. Your ass been rapping since you was nine, bro. You've been signed since you was 14, 13, 12. You ain't shot nobody, man. You then got on his niggas that then got on, even if you got on. even if you got on that 19, 18, but you was in high school before that, or you was working a job, you weren't in the streets. You didn't got on, you didn't got some money, now you didn't went to, got damn cuff some real killers.

But you were a pure bitch. You never did nothing. That's what's going on. But you got the money to got down, boy, I give y' y'all niggas of 50, go kill that nigger or whatever. That shit fucked the streets up. It ain't no money in them. That fucked it up.

The girls got down, one minute they got down, they be the main ones called. a little nigger a bitch if a nigga go out bad. Then when the nigger come kill their baby daddy, they, oh, he didn't have to do that. He was a good child. But the nigger just said he spent departments. He just spent departments yesterday. Now a nigga that came and smacked his ass, now he got down the Golden Boy. That fuck the streets up.

It's a lot. Yeah, like, you know, they don't need to do that. They post the prime picture twin. picture twin. They always post the suit. Whatever one, he had a suit on in. Man, this nigga to dealt with, man. That shit's so old.

Poked on fucking switching that nigga got on their face. And then they're on Instagram with a rocket launcher. Y'all go post the one with the suit on. At killing everybody every day. There's the Instagram. Oh, my God. He's a good job. That shit fucked the street.

to the street though, man. That fucked it up too. All that shit, all that shit like gumbo twin, it's just like a pot of gumbo. Now it's just, it's just a mess now. They have overcooked the gumbo. Oh. So there ain't no fixing it. Nah.

Why do we even want to fix it? You want to make it better, nigga? I'm saying, make what better? What is that a fix? The streets ain't never really been no good shit for real. So it might be a good thing. That shit might be a... a snake shedding his skin that we're going through.

I can't say the streets ain't nothing. I had some of the bedtime. You're talking out the hood. You ain't talking out the streets. The street always missed some bullshit. Remember, we said, you got hood niggas, you got hustlers, and you got street niggas. So when we're talking about the streets,

we gotta talk about everything that come with it. Yeah. Yeah, the hustling days was good. Block parties, everybody kicking it. Yeah, all of them days was good. Or just a regular day in the hood. You see some dumb shit. Muffin get evicted.

Somebody stealing their shit or some shit. But I'm saying, for the most part, nigga. What happened to the street, me? The shit came with pain and shit, man. Not facts. Nick, I ain't get nothing but what Pluto said? Real street, I ain't get nothing but some pain from it. That's all the nigga got.

Yeah, I'm rapping now and I'm successful in shit. But, nigga, I would give all this shit the way to have my niggas back. So that shit, then that shit don't equate. That shit ain't like, oh, shit, I'm rich now, so shit, that shit was work going through that. I don't feel like that. That's why I'd be saying I don't feel like that shit's special and all that. Because I wouldn't sacrifice that to get this. I think that's what makes it hard to make a movie too, but I think deep down is more like

you don't want to like... See my life. Yeah, or you don't want to prop it. You don't want to feel like you're profiting our philosophy. So it's hard to get down really break it down, even though it's working between the toes. On God. Like, niggas, I agree with that. Nick on God, nigga, I'd be mindful of shit, like, I got songs where I'm, like, storytelling

this shit and I be, and I think like, damn, like, I say a bar or something, but then I'd be like, man, Johnny Mama, I don't know if Johnny Mama want to hear this shit, though. A CJ Tayman Mama want to hear this shit. You know what I'm saying? Because I still deal with all my partners' moms, every one of them. I still look out for all of them. every month, whenever they call. So it'd be like, I don't do everything, sometimes be like, all right, come on, ma.

But for the most part, I try to do what I could do. So goddamn, I'd be having to face it more maybe than some other niggas. Because I feel like a lot of niggas, they partner's down. They just move on and it's like, but got down. So it'd be like, I try not to like just talk about it. That's why I ain't never just made no detail song about me and Johnny or nothing like that. Because it's just like, man, that nigger Mama don't want to keep reliving that shit. Even when I was telling that story on Shannon Sharp shit, when I watched it back, I kind

of regret it telling the story. Because I was like, damn, what if Johnny Mama watching this shit? Like, I've never told her the story. And she, why I respect her, she never, she always just embrace me like her son, right? She never asked me who did it, why I ain't telling none of that shit. ever in life on my mama, never. So it's like I always just be having her in mind when I do something shit. But when I was doing that interview, I think that nigga made me drink, but he didn't make

me. I took the shot of his looking and shit and I just got a little loose. Because normally I would have never really, probably even just told that story like in too much detail. Yeah, yeah, you told it. So I'd be trying to like, because that shit be like open wounds, bro. And I'm a man, she's a woman, she lost her son. So it's like, it's different, bro.

Like, he got little sisters and a little brother, you know what I'm saying? They look at me like a brother, so it's like, they might not want to hear this shit. They might not even want to hear it because they don't even want to hear my side. Fuck me telling her how his side, like what happened to him. They might not even want to hear, go through that trauma of that with me. They was crying about me too. See what I'm saying? So it would be like, hey, if you could have chosen anything else like you'd have had

your shit together when you got here, what you would have did before you went to the street? Like I could, and I would have been successful. for like doing it. Yeah, I'm saying like, you remember you said, I ain't had no choice because I ain't had no green card, shit, I can't get no job. What you would have did if you had your, if you were legit, what you would have did, what you think you would have did. I wanted to be a fighter pilot, the pilot that fly fighter jets.

Yeah. I wanted to do that. Like, that was one of my dreams. I'm saying what you did did, but to get there. Like you stayed in school? Stayed in school, went to college. I would have been in J ROTC and all that shit. You did all that?

For sure. J.R.O.T.C. You remember the love. You got dressed up every Friday. You're motherfuck up in the... Little folks who look like they're going to the Army, I heard. Oh, like the Hall Months. It's a JROTC was middle school, then high school was ROTC.

Yeah. So you're going to be a Hall Monk and all that shit. I ain't make it to high school. No, they want no Howl Monitor. Yeah. You think, if it's Hall Monters are telling them? Mom's to tell her. Hell yeah.

Your police act. Get on the right side. See, you know you're going to tell when you grow up, because you're already planning role of authority. Like, take names. Like, when they tell you, you take name. We're going to let you take name, Black, when you're legal. All right.

We get back. Everybody was good. We'll tow that bitch on. Oh, God. Nah, man. So what you, what you're projecting? First week? Projecting?

Yeah. I don't never do that. Can I don't be by that. be about that. I've seen a lot niggas have big-ass first weeks, then got down the third week. And anybody ain't even listening to it no more. So it don't matter. And I didn't have all type of different first week numbers, but all my albums platinum. So it'd be like, that shit don't really matter. It's a matter if they keep listening. That you can do 300 first week. Yeah. Then the third week, your ass do 10. Yeah. And I ain't about how you start. It's

by how you finish. Right. Right. So what's your biggest song to the date? My biggest song, probably. Rockstar. That's a feature, though. It's like bank account. Bank account and a lot. All this got some billions up there. There's more than this, though.

Ain't there more songs than this they got to be? They need to sing you more. I know you've got more than four. How much, how much, how much, how much they give you for a big string? Mm-hmm. Bad at Mel, but it's a lot of money. But it's a lot of money. They say it ain't no money.

I guess it's how your deal structure, huh? Yeah, I'm telling me a lot of money. No, the hell I don't. Yes, you do. And no, Pluto said that you do. He's like, no, that boy, that got a good ad deal. He said a long time we forgot something. The deal structure is he eat more than the usual artists.

That's what I was saying when I say you got a lot of money. It ain't literally, but he eat more than the usual argument because his deal structure is one of the best in the world, literally. Who negotiated that? You did? Nah, I ain't do it. I don't know if Savage you remember this shit, but I do remember I was like, man, bro, we need to keep our master. Yeah, overly.

You was adamant about that. I was like, bro, we need to keep our master. Jay Z said something about master. I just knew Jay Z said, and I was like, bro, we need to keep our master. And I remember niggas was like, I don't know if we can do that. I'm like, bro. We need to keep our masters, bro. You said it.

You said that. The right amount of money, yeah. And just say fuck mute. I wouldn't say fuck music. I wouldn't say fuck music. I'll make a new catalog. What you doing after me? I don't know.

I just always picture myself just... I want to be one of them niggas who's still rich. So I'm going to be doing whatever I got to do to still be rich after music. Whatever that is, I'm going to be investing, developing shit, real estate shit, making products to sell. I'm going to figure it out.

Or I could just sell my catalog and just retire. Do you put that shit in got down an investment firm and got down, let that shit make money and spend that money if I wanted to. I could put $200 million with Bernstein and got down, make 15% of $200 million for the rest of my life and relax if I wanted to. Yeah. Hey, do you, do you ever get like, like, now that you're in this position, niggas that feel like You can just snap you and make them you.

You know, I for sure feel like, I don't feel like my niggas feel like that, but I feel like niggas feel like that overly. And if I could or my mom, I would, I can't wait the goddamn go 50, 50, and invest in you and we 50, 50 partners and I snap my finger and I make you make the money I make. Why the fuck when I do that? What do you think that type of energy comes from when niggas feel like another nigga can snap them and make them something? Nigger has just be delusional.

Like, people feel like they ain't really got to do the hard work, like a couple vouchers and get you all the way in. That shit don't. People need vouchers, but I'm just saying that shit just don't work like that, bro. It gotta be, bro, I feel like music is like, um, this shit like an engine. Now you got this spark plug hit this piston, this spark plug hit this. And but all of it together make the wheels do this. Yeah.

So it's like, yeah, vouchers is one part of it. The main part, 80% of the shit, is your music. Is it telling you. The other 10% is how your ass look, carry yourself. If you're a street artist, what people saying about you or whatever movement you got. And then the other 10% might be like who you know. But a lot of niggas don't be having the big part, which is the music.

So do you think that's what the music industry up? Mez, I'm going to ask you did too. You think they would fuck the music industry up when they start buying it to the swag instead of the talent. Like, just cut that nigger, that nigger hit. He looked like it. And then we make that nigger it. I don't think no nigger just popped out their swag.

I don't think that's the case. Brother. What happened to the street drop the night, right? Yeah. To these four what they should expect from now. Man, just listen to that shit, man. If you don't, shit, you don't. Yeah, man.

Before y'all even hit that nigger, Don't hear shit, you don't hear me. Hey, nah, make sure y'all go get the album, man. Makes y'all like, I appreciate you putting it up too. But I pull it up on you. Right. Make sure y'all go, like, subscribe, comment to the Big Fat Network, man.

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