The Breakfast Club - Perspektives with Bank: Young Thug Unfiltered: Pain, Growth & Survival

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

On this episode of Perspectives with Big Bank, we sit down with none other than Young Thug — one of the most talked-about artists in the game right now. Thug opens up about his childhood in Jonesboro South, crazy first memories, family struggles, watching his brother die, and how those moments shaped him into the man he is today. We get deep into Thug’s mindset, from praying for “all eyes on him” to reflecting on betrayal, jail time, and the headlines. Nothing’s off-limits: the leaked jail calls, interrogations, the truth about YSL, and his outlook on life after facing years behind bars. If you’ve ever wanted to hear Young Thug unfiltered, this is it. No PR spin, no sugarcoating  just real conversation with Big Bank and Thug himself. Tune in now for one of the rawest hip hop interviews of 2025.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today is a very, very special day. I got a very, very special guest. Most talked about person in the world right now. Jill, what's up with the king? Living life, bro. How you feel? I'm planning. Planning.

Planning. That's what it's about. Where you're mentally? Mentally, I feel. like sometimes you be up, sometimes you be down, but I feel like mentally, the game that I'm in, I'm not in the sports or, you know, I'm not an actor, none of that. The game, I'm in, no matter what, you want all eyes on you. I feel like right now, this moment, no matter how the eyes look, the eyes can look devastating,

the eyes can look betrayed, the eyes can look, however that. matter how the eyes look. And the game I'm in, you want all eyes on you. No matter how they come. I always pray for that. God, I want all eyes on me. I don't matter. No matter how the eyes look.

I guess it's just him saying, hey, it would matter how they look. No matter how they look. No matter how the eyes look. A lot of the eyes are going to be like, you're that wrong. A lot of the eyes going to be like, you're right. Hey, before we get into all that, though, like, you know what's going on and, you know, to talk, talk whatever that's really why I said I got Jeff I want to talk I ain't never seen any no interview like speak on John Brous off a little Joe you know what I'm saying why not I feel like

just not even on no no supermanly shit and that like that I feel like personally I wasn't raised by like victims or men with like men with like really really touching feelings or like you know what I'm saying I went raised by those type of men I was raised by I was raised like I went raised by dwellers I was raised by men that that always said keep going no matter what go forward because you got to understand my mom got 11 kids my daddy he couldn't sit and be in his feelings about certain things because he still got 11 people to feed plus my mom plus him plus his other kids my dad got 15 people he got to worry about every day so he didn't have a he can have a chance to sit back

and just focus on his feelings and feel certain things i wasn't raised like that i was raised by a man who just was like go forward because that's what matters what matters is not sin and just being stuck in the moment and go well on certain things like that ain't what life is about when you're living as a king. It's about going forward. I think I did. That's so much to the point where I forget to speak about certain things. I'll be forgetting to speak about little Jeff. What's your, uh, what's your earliest memory? That's great. I ain't never had nobody question. What's your earliest memory? Like, if you can think of your earliest memory, like, it's the first thing I remember is far as back I can remember. You know what I said? My earliest memory was

John Burr South, my hood The hood I'm from The project's I'm from John versus South My brother Unful Free Unful My brother

He He burned the house down Playing with matches Because you know When you're in the project You got that big ad long metal heater Connected to the wall That come in

The little snake-looking heater He played with matches on that And it burnt down the whole building And he burned out Just our apartment It burnt down the whole building. Man.

That's my first memory. Like, real life. You know, coming up, like, what's the first time you knew, like, that's your first, what type of memory what you say that is?

Good or bad? Or in between. Bro, we were raised so different. You too, bro. Men like you raised me from, even if it's from a addition, I always looked up to real street dudes,

real guys who were front of street and this and that. I always looked. of this so men like I don't even look at that like it's bad I look at that like a fine memory like damn that's how fucked up we yeah bro that's how that's how that's how we raised like they're like they're burnt down the house I don't even look at it like it's bad yeah I looked that I looked up to him for that like damn but they're not a set a fire but they're gonna know how to set a five at four at five years old he's not a set a fire I'm asking him how do it like that job I'm telling you, that's how we were raised, bro.

That's how we were raised, for real. I know your first, I know you got some crazy memories. I was just saying, when I asked you the question, I was just trying to thank of mine. My first one, but I can't. But I often say, what's your first, what's your first happy moment? In life?

Yeah. My first happy moment was when my mama moved out of the projects to a house. When my mom moved into our first house instead of apartments. I was like, damn, bro, we got a house. The house was smaller than an apartment. My mama had got a four-bedroom house. The apartment was five-bed room.

It's saying not feeling so confined, no more like a brown, a bunch of people now. We got rid of some grass. Like, but I got gray, I got a yard. I got neighbors, like houses. Like, when I'm waking up, get on the school bus in front of my house instead of the project. It was wrecked, though, across the street from the project, though.

But so it's just like, you know, but that was like one of my first half. happy, happy moments and that I remember, like, as a kid. What's your first said at this moment? I used to go with this girl named Santana in Pool Creek. That's when we moved out of John Burst South. I moved out of John Burr South, and I was, like, three, four years old. We moved to Pool Creek, which is right around the corner from John Verst, South.

And I started going with this girl that stayed, like, two part minutes down for me, her name, Santana. I was going with her, like, we were probably, like, five, six years old, like kids. I was going with her And we were sitting on a bench And I think I was talking to another girl And she got in And she hit me with a stick

With a sword With a real log She called me Right here and right here Hit me with a lot You made you say it Yeah because it was like Like damn

She broke up with me I'm like damn I'm like my girlfriend Oh yeah yeah yeah What about What's the first time You feel like you felt betrayed

like as a kid coming up or, you know. My first betrayal was like, because I'm a kid so I wasn't introduced to the world or like niggas or friends and shit. You know, you like, you confine to just your household

and departments you live in. So my first betrayal was probably like my other family members like me, me hearing my auntie. say, you know, she don't want my mom kids at her house because we're just too deep. Like, we got roaches and shit in our house. Our clothes got roaches. So we might come to her house and some roachers might come out of our shit.

Now she got roaches in our house. And I understand it. You know, no harsh feelings. But, you know, that type of shit, the nigger that I am, that's the type of shit I was dealing with in life as a kid. I was dealing with that. Like, my mom got so many children to the point where hustles and brothers. Like, man, man, man, hell now.

We don't even want to deal with y'all. No, sir. Too many of y'all there. They went even on no bullshit. It's just like, she liked me. I got three bedroom apartment. I'm got damn raising my kids a certain way. Y'all over here, y'all grown in the hell.

Y'all doing what y'all want to do. And my hell and I, we don't want that shit over here. I want my kids to grow up, you know, a certain way. So I get it, you know what I'm saying? But that's the type of shit I was dealing with. Like, that was my first, like, betrayal just like hearing my auntie say she didn't want us at a house. We got damn. We carry roaches.

Damn. Hey, shit, we had roachers like a motherfucker too Of course My auntie them did too But she was She was so They were so small So she was able to sterminate

She was able to get rid of the certain shit She just got her a little bit Yeah, she had roachersette Because she lived in the project She was clean as a motherfucker She ain't had them a three kid All them were respectful Cool people

Cool kids all that So she could contain like what's going on We just so deep It's just like Y'all if to come over here We broke ahead We don't got, we got this smaller amount of food stamps than your mama. My mom got a lot of foods now because you got a lot of kids.

My mama, like, man, we got $300 a month worth food now. Y'all come here, y'all eat all the goddamn food because y'all just deep. Y'all ain't even trying to do no bullshit. Y'all eat all the food. Now my family, you know, you know, just like that type of shit. You know, until recently, like, and a lot of people who are watching, they probably been watching me. They see, like, I ain't different. I feel like I'm different.

I know I'm different now. Like, at first, I was trying to trick myself into being different. and they end up working. You get what I'm saying? And I started realizing certain shit like, damn, bang, this is how you felt about this or this was shaped you or this what made you start to think like this

and this what made you, you know what I'm saying? Like, so how do you think little Jeff impacted young thug? A few things. It was a few reasons. A few things like from me being little Jeff impacted, you know what I thought. Like some of the shit that I just spoke on.

Like that made me like, love people more because I've seen like some parts some parts of my family like not having the gratitude and like love that that I wanted as a kid like I actually love my auntie I actually love my cousins my cousins from my auntie kids I actually loved him and my mama we were so deep my mama always taught us like love love right y'all be y'all be with each other we'll never go against your default love love you know so those type of situations impact the impact little jeff to young thug just like i'm telling you you got a thing we my mom got a five-bedroom apartment we 11 deep all 11 of us live while in five-bedroom

so i'm living i'm sleeping in the same bed with four other people the four youngest kids my mama got sleeping in one bed then the middle three sleeping in two beds in their room they got two different beds in their room in one room then the other it's like that so we were group we i grew up off of like you gotta love one another we ain't had nothing we was literally damn their junkies like we ain't nothing in the world we do junkie i'm telling you when i ain't bombs not like not junkers but like you know what i'm saying like junkie shit yeah yeah like we don't got nothing like i wore my sister clothes yeah to school my sister then i got to drop out of school just so i can wear her clothes and people don't know that i'm wearing her clothes that's what I'm saying

and how those circumstances like in what way did that in like what way would it make you feel like it made me feel like I just wanted it made me feel like my aunties and shit like unties and uncles and stuff treating my mama family a certain way it made me like want love so bad that's when I start mean friends that's when I start wanting love from like other people besides my sisters and brothers I start like I start trying to get love from my friend I start trying to get I start getting you know what I'm saying like it just made me just seek love I started Seeking love because I wasn't getting love from, like, certain parts of my family. Yeah.

It shaped me in that way. And then a few more ways, like, I watched my brother die in front of me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I watched my brother die in front of me, brother. I was an eight, nine years old, little boy. Kid. Whatever. He got killed.

My brother got killed on Dill, on Dill Avenue. My brother ended up doing some gambling shit. He stopped my other, he stopped Unfum from gambling. And then he kind of slapped him from Brown. Like, yeah, fuck on. Cause I'm from like, he left him 12 years old. Look, he was a kid. He gambling with some grown-haired men, though.

So he got out there to stop my brother from gambling. And he started gambling. He didn't have winning all the money. So when he leaves, one of his friends, he'll fuck, nigga. One of his friends, goddamn call him and tell him like, brother don't come back up here. They're going to take the money back for you if you come back. My brother would like, say, I'm going to go home right for.

I'll be right back. Y'all, n'nick, don't start gambling. I'd be right back. So he walked down the street to the house. And his friend called him, like, man, don't come back up here. Be a nigh goddamn whoa, whoa, who, which is, which some people would look at like, nah, there ain't no fuck nigga shit. That's real nigga shit.

But him, he knew my brother. He was my brother, friend. He knew my brother. He's standing on that. I'll talk. You tell my brother, some niggas been to do something to him, don't come back. He's going right back. Because the thing about it, he wasn't even coming back.

He had one out of money. He won like 9,000. It was a little kid's shit. He won't like 9,000. His friend knew he wouldn't coming back. Like, he, like, made him come back by telling him a nigga fin that like he's going rob him. So he go right back up down and shoot a nigga. Who's in the, he go right

back up there. Hey, Ty. Who you just said, you just called me and said they're going going to rob me? Who, who you said going to rob me? The nigga, man, fuck, nigga, who you said were going to rob me? You just called me said one of these nicks might rob me? That's how the shit. That's how the situation started. He shot a nigga, your brother is? Yeah. He shot two niggas. He shot three niggas. He shot

his friend, and then he shot the two niggas that killed him. Because his friend were acting like a, he was acting like a hole like, not want to tell him who said we're going to rob him. His friend, like, man, bro, you tripping, you trip. Boom, shoot him. Bitch out of a nigga. Boom.

Then when he shoot him, he started saying, like, man, this nigga said him, bro, he, these two niggums. So he started shooting at this nigga. Then he takes off running. He had the police siren, he'd take off running. Them niggas got them, start back, shooting back. Shot him in the back while he were running. Ran down the street a little bit and fell on the ground and just like, you know,

he just on the ground, gasping. Like, man, hurry up, get me in the car, get me in the car, take me to the hospital. He was just telling us, like, I feel like I'm dying. Like, he's like, I'm telling you, I feel like I'm down, my heart wreak, everything's slowing down. My heart rate, everything's slowing down. I feel like, I feel like, you know what I'm saying? I'm right here, bro. Little boy. I'm looking at my mama, like, he's going and shot my mama like, son, you hear me. You hear me? Beanie, like, son, you hear me. He's just like, choking up blood, but he's like, you can see he trying to, he's trying to say something. Like, he's trying to say something. He's trying to say something, but he can't talk. So my mama, like, you hear me, squeeze my hand. I'm holding one of his hand. My mom hold him. She's like, if you hit me, squeeze my hand, son, squeeze my hand. Don't go, son. Son. We're squeezing our hand. I'm like, I'm looking at this shit as a kid, bro. Like, so from that day forward, what I always said, I'm a deuce on to the nigga that killed my brother.

That just shaped my life. That made me from, because I played football, I looked at all the Michael Vick. I played football. I wanted to rap. I looked at the little wine. I looked at the Michael Vick. I looked at the hot bars.

That just shaped me from all that. From that point on, I looked up to, like, step us. I looked up to niggas from my hood, from John Brous South there. How am of their business? That shit just made me. me a whole different person, that one situation. I went never like nine years or I was a kid.

So from that point on, how you, like, looking back on, like, what changed? Like, what changed in you? Me, from that day, what changed in me was the way I viewed, like, niggas that wasn't from where I'm from. Because that's what it bought down to, like, a John versus South nigga got killed by Adele Avenue, nigga. So that just started making me be like, man, you ain't from John Versaile, you know what's Anna. Now we live in that type of life.

So that's what I'm saying. Like the situations I was in shaped me in so many ways, it ain't shaped me one way. Because it was so many different situations, different scenarios to point where it shaped me so many different ways. Like me not getting the proper love from my entire family made me seek love from niggas and women. Me saying my brother get killed, shape me to how I view niggas in the street, how I view niggas. like you know what I'm saying it's me playing with my daddy like moving me away like I ain't never wrote

the school bus my dad took me to school every day I had a real father but I never wrote the school bus that shaped me to being a man like I'm gonna be a man my dad is down this nigga doing what he doing he used to do what he do back in the day to hustle to get his money whatever whatever

like I looked at all that type of shit like damn he'll he a real man because he's still trying to do whatever he can do to feed all these kids and he's still taking time out to like take me to school every day and come get me from school every day because he just wanted me to be that far away from the streets you know what I'm saying like that shaped me in a different way

to being the dad that I am to my kids that shaped me in a different way you know just just so many different scenarios just shape me like every I look at my mama cry every year on my brother's birthday bro that nigga died three days for my birthday his funeral was on my birthday I mean I remember my 10th birthday a funeral I'm going to a funeral on my 10th birthday

bro. My brother who just told me before he left out of the house and died I'm gonna get you $100 for your birthday. I'm looking at that. Like I still wake up right now

the day I still want my $100 for my brother. Can't get it. It just certain shit just shake me a certain way, but I just, you know what I'm saying? My name is Ed. Everyone say hello Ed. Hello, Ed.

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That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So when you look at yourself, like when you reflect and just look at yourself, how you see yourself. right now as a person like if you had to judge you how you see yourself the craigs part is bro i thought i was whole i thought i was wholesome i thought i was like the perfect man into this situation this situation at hand right now made me realize like damn bro i'm actually fucked up like i was just so god just created me to be so happy to the point where i i know how to like get beyond problems I just always was happy My whole trial

I just were happy at hell Because it's just like I ain't got no reason to be happy But it's just like God just I'm just a happy person I'm just a natural happy person I could have got a life sentence and went to prison with the rest of my life

And y'all would have been seeing me in prison On photos just happened Because I think God just created me like that I'd be mad at God sometimes For that like Like man bro why you created me Just like so happy To the point where I can't be in touch

With my real feelings But do you think that's type of shit Got down making the way a nigga Cause I'm gonna keep real with your slime like coming out of jail and we're like man what the fuck is this nigga doing bro

like it's like you ain't you ain't learned your lesson and all this shit going on hearing any calls talking on phone like what the hell wrong with this nigga like you know a nigga

I know you was in the praying right absolutely like it's like do you not understand your prayers got answered yeah you understand that but you also

you also listening to people tell you like Well, you're the wizard. You ain't going to prison. And then you got to understand. I was in jail three years, bro. Like, I were praying three whole year. At some point, I started thinking, like, the prayers ain't working.

You got to understand that, too. Like, I'm going through shit every day. I'm looking at my best friend. I'm do what they do. I'm looking at this. I'm looking at certain shit. And it's making me feel how I'm feeling. But I ain't never been the nigger to pull to talk about nobody else in my life on the phone with nobody else.

I've never been that type of niggum. I've been, these last few days, I've been sitting around like, what the fuck was I thinking? Like, what I was doing? I appreciate you were saying that. I think I was just so fucked up and I just felt like it was just over. Like, I'm just sitting in jail 24 hours on 23 and 1. I'm in a cell, 23 hours. Like, at this point, I'm just like, man, I don't give a fuck.

Life ain't, it ain't what I'm thinking it is. Like, I'm just talking. At this point, I'm just talking. At this point, I'm just holding conversations with my girl. But the crazy part is all these conversations that I had on the phone, I also had with the same niggas who I was talking about on the phones. So that's why it don't seem weird between us, me and them because I don't help these same conversations with Wayne or I don't hurt

held these same conversations with Savage how I feel about him how I feel about how I feel about this I feel about every situation we talk like me and we brothers we talk they tell me how they feel about certain things so we we all align we won we what we yeah but you got to understand like my standpoint I'm locked up and I'm on the phone talking to my girl every day this is the only person I'm talking to on the phone this the only person that I can't talk to like I can't even talk to my family because they just like how they is it ain't good for my case they can't be on the phone, they don't understand certain

things. So if I be on the phone with them, they might say the wrong thing on the phone. So now I can't talk to them. Now I can't talk to them. I don't want the police to get on bank. Now I can't talk to Wham. I don't want the police get on him. I don't want the police get on him. I don't want the police get on Pluto. It's just so much shit in my mind to the point where I'm just like, I'm confining myself. I mean, not confined. I'm like trapping myself to just

communicate with one person. And then I might go to court and just get body slammed by the motherfucking judge, bro. And then I just got to come back to the Now I'm on the phone with somebody that I love Whoever it is I'm on the phone with And they're like, man, goddamn Or you know, got damn

They say this nigga right here, there's no pulling up on brother Of course I'm just like, bro, I just got body clamped by the jail I'm just feeling how I'm feeling, bro, I'm just saying what I'm saying. I ain't even tripping on that. I'm just saying what I'm saying. And I don't told all these niggas, these same things. But looking back on that, how you feel, you just said goddamn like, damn,

you feel like you were tripping? I feel like I was tripping, but I feel like, because I ain't never did shit like that. I ain't never pilled talk with no girl ever in life. I ain't never in my life. Hell, no conversation

with no girl about no other than I ever until jail. And I've been trying to figure out like, why the hell was I even doing that? And then I just had to like think back to when I was in jail

because I did a long time in jail so I know how to think right back to when I was in jail right now. So you've been reflecting. Yeah, and that's another thing I don't even want to do. That's why I only even respect the phone call shit coming out

because all it do is make me think about when I was in jail going through fighting for my life. All they do is make my girl think about the whole long-ass conversations on the phone, we're praying and we doing shit and hoping that I can get away from this shit and come out of it. Like, that's the weird part about this shit that's happening. Like, this shit, all this, y'all, this shit is just like a fun, fun moment in the means

on the internet and trying to just, like, tortuance my existence and just my real nigger shit, my real nigger life to, like, just to have fun with it. But not knowing, like, but this shit traumatizing the head. This shit got damn make me remember when I was in jail. This shit make me remember those dark-ass days. and moments I had, bro. This shit made my girl cry. She ain't even tripping about what we're saying on the phone.

We said, whatever I say, I can say twice. I'm a grown man. I'm a man, nigga. Whatever I say, I say twice. And I don't say it to every nigga. They know that. So I ain't tripping on that part. I'm tripping on just like the world not knowing that.

I'm tripping on the world just, oh, but look, look at this. Oh, y'all, here going to know the phone call. It's just like, bro, y'all ain't understand what's going on. Let me say this. If you, when you, knowing that you told these people and you was on the side, how would you look at it? If you were from the sideline It's listening to slime on the phone

On the jail phone Talking to Savit, talking to your girl Just about everything How would you look at that? If you didn't know, like you said, you know you're not told the same people this How would you look at it? It depends.

If I was on the sideline And I never been in that situation Like no jail shit or fight for my life I probably would look at it How people looking at it That ain't never been through shit Okay They're probably looking at it like

Man, you're some bullshit Why are you talking about But if I was a nigga that had and experience certain shit, I would look at it another way. But, and me personally,

me, I'm a smart man. I'm not a thing. So if I see somebody else going through this, I'm a different type of person to be like, damn,

I want to know what he thinks. Like, I want to hear where he was feeling. Like, why do you do this? Why you said this shit on these phone calls? Why you were saying

this shit on your phone call? Because everything on the phone call came from questions being asked. Are they just putting out your part? Who do you think putting that shit out? I don't know I'd be looking at it like

some of the niggas that's like mad that I'm pushing grown man business I'm pushing we ain't telling no about we ain't no rats we ain't doing it

it might be people that's like that's like you know it might be stemming from that because do you think you're inviting the energy though? Yeah 100%

overly overly but me just knowing how this world is even if I wasn't inviting the energy it's still happening it's still what happened I know it

because you gotta think before the world even seen an interrogation video or me or anything jail calls out here I already got leaked jail jail car got leaked

when I was in jail interrogation shit was already out too though one right I'm just saying all this shit was happening while I was in jail

so I don't think it would be me personally bro you said for me you slant I don't think it would be it's like right now yeah interrogation

shit came out too and there was some shit in there we're gonna talk about there was some shit in there like damn slime why you say that I would the head wrong with you but at the end of the day

I'm saying niggas wouldn't want to be like yeah man fuck that nigga if it didn't come with you gotta think if people's out here that motherfucker like free slime to the death

like can't wait you get out but then when you got out it was like he ain't learned he's still alone he's still the same he wants to go back

just off of tweets and dissing and you know what I'm saying that just that's just like damn bro like are you bray you just did some shit niggas don't do you just got damn came on on some shit we got damn damn to everybody telling a nigga ain't supposed to make it back and you back that's God so it's like damn the universe too

was making to me making it like yeah thank him I think personally no matter what I came out of jail and did, it still would have came out one day me personally. I understand what you're saying because it still came out

when the whole world looked at me as a real nigga. My jail phone call got leaked. They weren't pushing no narrative then, though. It don't fault the narrative. I'm just saying coming out, no matter what, I feel like no matter what, it still would have came out.

I know it would have. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it still would have. No matter what, bro. No matter what I would have got out of jail and did, it still would have came out. just because it was public record because at the end of the day

when the first shit came out when the first few jail calls came out or me and my girl just talking this shit when those first few jail phones jail call came out nigger my team got in touch with the Cobb County people

and stopped all of like shut down the whole system now you can't go get none of that shit okay so what they tell you somebody been had it they got it back then and they're just waiting to release it.

Strategic. No matter what I would have came out doing, they still would have got released. What about, like... Because you can't go on the internet and get it right now. You can't go on Carl County Wells I didn't get it. It's been shut down for a year and a half.

What about, like, contradicting shit? Like, they say, uh-oh. You tweeted that you told Shaught to take the, uh, uh, umphun. Yeah, the police. Yeah. And, but on a call, you told seven. I ain't told that nigga that.

Like, so that's like, credibility. Like, damn, sly, you said it, but this, you tweeted this is, well, God, damn, what one is it? Yeah, I understand that. And the thing is, when, just say, I'm in jail, fighting for my life.

It's just for people that don't know the law. Okay. I got co-defendants. I got 28 co-defendants. I got 28 niggas on the case with me. We can't have contact. We can't talk to each other. We can't be around each other.

When I go to court, they got me on a whole other motherfucking place side of the courthouse. They got these niggas on different sides of the courthouse. Nobody is around each other because we're co-defendants. We get another charge

if we talk to each other. We can't talk to each other. So when I'm on the phone, a nigga like Savage, he knows what he know about the law. But it's some things that he don't know about the law. So that's what slowed me down

from calling nigs, from jail. Because he on the phone just having a normal conversation with his brother. And he just want to know what's going on. Like, I just want to know what going on, bro. Like, you seen your brother plea?

You seen this? You know, he don't. He don't know the law. He don't know the side of the law where I got a co-defendant and I can't talk to him. So if I get on the phone on a jail call and tell Savage, yeah, I told Unfun to take a plea. That's another charge on me because I'm supposed to have contact with Unful. So when I'm on a jail call talking to Savage, I got to say no. Hell now, I ain't taught that nigga to do that?

Hell no. All they're going to do is take that jail call and play it in court. Now I got to attempt to court charge. So when I'm in the jail, I can't say. And when I'm in the jail, I'm like, hell, no, I ain't told no niggas take no plea. No. I ain't did that. Because I got to do that.

I'm on trial. I don't post a hell, no contact with him. If I say, I told my brother to take the charge, all they're going to say is, how you told your brother that? You must have to you. Boom. The lawyer can get in trouble. All type of shit can happen. I'm on the phone off the talk.

Hell now. I ain't tell that nigga take no charge. Fuck, no. I mean, I ain't tell them to take the plea. No. But when the case over, can't nothing happen to me by saying that. So when the case over, hey, let me. clear this up just for the world or no

because I told savage no I told Pluto no like I told a few niggas who asked me like hey bro you told your brother to do that I'm like hey and I ain't tell them to do that so obviously niggas that I fuck went in the streets in the world they're looking at it like all right your brother did what wrong you ain't tell your brother to do that

so I got to clean that up because I really did tell them after the case yeah yeah yeah after the case hey and I overly told him to take the charge but because it definitely looked like damn they took the same plea so how to hear you gonna just single gun out you know what I'm saying you know why but you was done talking no go ahead the reason why I differentiate his plea from day plea is that's like

that's like you telling your son to do something versus you not telling your son nothing and he do something I told my brother to take the plea we had a week and a half conversation talking a week and a half every day in court my first time saying the niggas in we been in jail we crying each other all type of shit I'm like bro get the fuck on

this nigga been in prison whole lot you think that nigga give a fuck about going to prison brother that nigga a man gangster she's standing on that hon don't give a damn about no sentence home told me every day in court he told me hell no

boy you're tripping bro boy I'm rocking you're my brother you're my real live brother Like my mama had Yo mama and mom We got the same mama nigga

You're my brother If you go to prison forever I'm going to prison forever Fuck that He's just a freak nigga That's how you're looking at it Hell now Nick I'm crying to this nigga

Every day Bro please bro You just got out of prison You just did 12 in a half year Get the fuck on bro please I'm on the phone

Mama My mama My mama crying every day man both of my son man bray y'all come back to me I don't go What happened You all?

What happened to me You got to come back to me now Woo I'm telling my brother Gone You gotta get back with one bro I'm gonna be all

I'm good. I'm a man, bro, I'm standing on mine. I'm gonna be all right. I need you to go, bro. That nigga, why that nigga crying to me by? Bro.

Do you understand me what you're telling me to do, bro? No. I'm a man. That niggas just had a life sentence, nigg for not telling. He's not a rat. No matter how you're going to look at nothing.

This niggas that did a life plus 10 prison sentence for not telling. They got this nigga on a phone. Yeah, life plus 10 for the crime. Yeah. For not telling. No, they know he didn't do it. Oh, he didn't.

they know he can do it. They know he ain't do it. He got a life sentence. You know that that's just, that motherfucking judicial system here, bro. They know, they got the nigga who did the murder on the phone two days out he did the murder talking to somebody on the phone like, man, y'all nigh, stop playing my money. I just had to step on a nigga a few days ago for playing my money. They got him on a, on a wired phone call saying this. They know who did the murder. They know who committed the murder. When we had cameras at the house, when the murder got committed, my brother was in the house. When the in the house sleep when the, when the shit happened. They got

cameras from like people other people houses and shit of my brother leaving out the house after the murder his best friends them was was convicted of doing the murder and they was in my mama car nigga my brother still in court every day of his motherfucking life still to this day told the judge i don't know them the judge like dumb ass nigga we got phone calls with you and them on the phone we got a phone call with you and them the night of the murder they just talking about other shit just talking about going to the club fucking with holes, all that. And the niggas just like, shit, I'm going to pull up.

I'm going to come get you. The nigger dodging coming to my house because he knows my mama going to ask for her car. So he's like, man, you got to walk around the corner, getting in the car. Like, they're on real phone calls on each other. My brother's still in this motherfucker fighting every day saying, I don't know them. They lying on me. The judge that sought it to him just because of that. Like, oh, you, you're playing game.

They offer that nigger immunity. They know he can do it. They offer him immunity. Hey, man, you tell exactly what him. Because they're saying, one of the niggas saying, you brought the gun to them. One of the niggas saying is three of them. One of the niggas saying Unfung did the shoe.

One of the niggins said, Unfong didn't do the show when he just broke us the gun. They like, why y'all didn't just come to the house and get the gun? Because we was in his mama car. And if we would have pulled up in the driveway, his mom would have made us leave her car. So we called Unful and told him, hey, come around the corner and meet us and bring us the gun.

We're going to go to the club. They're just like, hey, bring my fire. We're going to go to the club. bro got them suppose I don't know if he did it or not because he still ain't told me to their day I don't know if he did or not take them the gun but when he take them the gun

they ride off and going like they're going to go to the club and do what they're doing but they end up well that's what the court say I don't know I don't know the case the court said that they grow up some Miskie and one of the Miscan book and they shot him

and the Miscan died I don't know if that's true or not I'm not saying it's true but this is what the case was they saying my brother took the gun to them. And then they, and then one of them killed the mesquins, which we don't know if that's true or not. Cool. Got damn. They got one of the missing that didn't get shot. One of them got killed and one of them, they let run on, run away. The one that ran away

said, my brother is about, that nigga probably about five, seven, five, eight, red is a motherfucker. Real Mexican, Chinese nigga. The, the Mexican that was, that didn't get shot, said the third guy that walked up was a tall black man with a ski ass on they said how you know he black if he had a ski mask on he said I seen his hands his hand was black

so my brother off top everybody know that ain't him they know 100% he didn't do the murder he just got a license because he wouldn't tell they granted him immunity I don't take it man fuck y'all grant to wet I don't know

I don't know nothing about that I'm telling you brother just man to man I can't put no, I can't put no wreck on him. I can't. I'm telling him. I'm telling you, I seen Shawlter stand up in the, Aunt Shotta was 17 years old. I can't, say I'm telling him, please say.

His lawyer got it, got him a new trial. Like, oh, they fought up in trial. The lawyer got him a new trial. So now he's out of jail waiting to get tried for the murder again. They ain't going to never trying for the murder again because they know it. And that ain't going to do it. So he wasn't going to never get tried for it again. They were going to just, like, goddamn, keep resetting the trial date for the rest of his life.

He was never going to court again. That's what the lawyer say. Like, they ain't anything to do that case. They can't beat him. So I told him. well if you do take the plea make sure they add your murder case in the plea make sure they dismiss your murder case in the plea

because you still you still got to do a new trial I'm saying they did that I don't think they did it I think when they went to them with the plea I think they were like the plea is out of the murder shit we can't do nothing about the murder shit

if they could they would have but the state was like we can't do nothing about the murder shit like it's a new trial like it ain't nothing we can't can't get involved in that. That's up to the court. So I guess that's what they're like, we can't add that shit now. So that's when he like shit. I'm definitely doing the plea then. Now we're having a week and a half conversation every day, bro, in court, every day.

I'm sorry, sitting in the cell crying. Like, like, bro, we got to go, bro. Man, dude, don't these four. I don't. One of us need to go. Right now, I don't need you right here with me. You just there is 12 and a half. I don't need you right here with me. This shit can be three, four year process. I don't need you doing that. So who did what's right on that case? Everybody who on the case did were right except the niggas who took the pleas in the beginning of the track case

except them. The niggas who took the pleas in the case, that's who did what's wrong. They took the plea and agreed that Wyself was a game. They saying that we got a RICO and YSEL is a criminal street game. All of us on this trial, all 28 us

and YSEL is not a criminal street game. because by the book of games the law that solidify you as a game we don't we don't we don't come to terms with none of that so it ain't a game in real life it's really not a game

when it comes to the game on the own yeah it's just a lot of crimes that happen and they're just saying oh why sell a game off of all these crimes that happen but the law that makes an organization a game the law that makes an organization organization of game. We don't meet none of the criteria. So we're not a game. No matter how y'all

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the plea he ain't stutin that plea so why duke ain't wrong i just want to know like why because duke plea was from duke all duke said in his plea he didn't say why i said was a gang of that all duke plea did was said that yak was right about telling on him about what they talked about duke was just what yak already had told the police about him You see what I'm saying? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hello, hold on. You said, Duke just agreed to what Yack said. Yes.

So, Y'K. You're saying Yatt threw Duke up on the bus. He just said the nigger telling the truth on me. Yeah, because if he say that he's not, then Yack got to take the stand on him. Because Yat plea agreement said he got to take the stand if Duke's go to trial. That was a part of his plea. What? What I'm saying?

On their case. So, Yat, Yats say ain't nobody. He was on big face. He said, no. Nobody didn't go to jail for what. He said he just was in there running their mouth in the western line. Interrogation room. So how you, what do you mean testifies?

When him and Duke caught their case, Duke was going to trial. What kind of case it was? They got caught in a car. They had no license. They had two guns on them. And they went on high-speed chase. They took Georgia State Patrol on high-speed chase. So when they get locked up, this is what their charges is.

theft by receiving stolen the property which is the guns and and and well I think it was one of the guns I don't know I know they had thereby receiving and then no license because they were driving they was in the car they had a license that's what that's what they told on a gun and some license stop plans that was the original charge oh with the when the police came yeah when the police came and talked to to yak yeah told him what actually was happening what was happening what was Like, he told him Duke got jumped on that majesty by, by some ops, by the opposite. And he came to Majesty to get Duke and they were going to retaliate. Go, go commit murder.

Go possibly commit murder. They were going to retaliate against the people that just jumped on Duke. That's what Yack told him. Hold on. So, let's slow down. They get locked. They on the way to the op-hood. This is what the, I don't know, God went down.

This is what the police is saying. they got caught with some guns and no license and he turned that into what he told them what really was happening because the police just like why these two they ride past the state patrol it's two young niggas where he hood is and ski ass and all that old shit

ride past state patrol state patrol get behind them they go on a high speed chase they go on the high speed chase they wreck the car they get out the car run well one of them get out the car and run one of them stay in the car

they automatically make it fishy to me who stayed in the car I think Yatch stayed in the car He went to People who ran who stayed in the car Yatch stayed in the car That's what I heard Okay

Yack stayed in the car When they crash Duke get out and run Okay And toss one of the guns Got away No he got caught He didn't get caught

Okay Yat got damn Some people told me that Yat ran too But some people told me that Yat didn't run Yat stayed in the car So If me and you go on a high speed chase

bank and we both know what we're doing we know what we're going to do if if the state is right we know what we're going to do the police get behind us we're going to high speed chase crash a car we get out the car we're running man if i get out this car and run and bank stay in this car the only thing on my mind is bank fin to tell on me or bank fin it even if you ain't fin to tell on me i'm fin to tell the police it's him uh like because what you're standing the car for he must know he must got out basically like he must got out he might know something i don't know We're going to run. Basically, that's what you're saying.

Like, if you're on running, when the police is chasing you, you don't want driving, you take them on a high-speed chase. If you don't get out and run and you get out of let Duke run, you've got something you're fin to tell the police. Not even if you're going to tell. You can tell the police, hey, I don't know what I'm an Uber. We were just running. This nigga I don't know what hell he got going on.

He's your heart out of rent. You're fin to say something. Like, I don't understand why you're not fend to run, which is not bad. And that ain't really bad to me. Because if you can spin 12, you can spin them. If men, you go on high-speed chasing, and I hop out and run

and you don't. All you can say is shit. Man, I know that young nigga running hood. I don't even know he really know his name. Man, that's the young told me drop him off at the girl house.

Man, I was on the way home off and dropped this knick off at the girl house, man. When got them, y'all got behind me but I know I can't go to jail, but then you only got a gun, but I know I can't go to jail. So I just went on high speed chasing. You know, it's ways you could flip it

and they make it good. Like, all right, cool. I understand why you side in the car. If you can flip it, you can flip it. So I ain't going to say he's out in the car So what, all right, fad If you signed in the car. All right, fair forward to what, the facts.

You say he, uh... Duke got jumped on that magic city. Okay. Call yet. This supposedly, I don't know. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah.

Duke got a junked on that magic by some opposites. He called yet. Yat come get him from magic. Him and Yack get in the car and on the way to the Ops Hood. They go, they on the way to the Ops Hood to retaliate.

to go handle their business. Like, niggas just junk don't know if they're going to go out of their business. They ride past the police next to the opposite. They're on the up street when they ride past the police. The police get behind them

and turn the lights on. They go on high speed chase. They crash. They get out of run. They get caught. They in jail for driving no license and firearm in the car. This is the charges.

The police come questioning Duke. Duke, don't tell him. Like, man, something I did. I don't know. The police go question. than Yack. Because Yatt, I think Yat was in some more trouble, too. So the police go cautioned Yack.

So I guess that's his way of being like, shit. But I got to try to get myself out of trouble. I got, well, I'm in deep trouble. Like, even though Duke got this little bit of that case, I got this same livid air case, but I got more shit. I'm on probation. I Jek got out of jail. He got a deeper rap sheet.

I thought he said he took the charge, though. I thought, uh, Yack took the charge. He said, he said, he got down, there nobody go jail with him. Like, he don't want this time. And Duke went to jail. bro. No I'm saying, like, convicted.

Basically, like, Duke got some probation. Dude got convicted. He got probation. Six months probation. He got, that thing, he got a year probation. So, Shalda went to the Fed, though. So he had to take the gun charge, don't? No, he went to the Fed because that was it, that was like his fifth, six time getting caught with guns.

So, you know, your fifth six time getting caught with gun, now the Fed's involved. Now the Fed is, like, hey, man, then they keep getting caught with gun. Now the Fed shat you, now the Fed gave you the gun charge. So you can't take the gun charge. The Fed gave you the charge. The Fed gave you the charge. You running around saying you took the gun charge for Duke. Now you dim.

In your interview, in your interview, you said the gun was my gun, but I gave it to Duke. Everybody know in a court of law, if you say, hey, this is my brick, but I gave this motherfucker to a bank, whoever is in possession of this brick, that's who brick it is. That's a fact. Whoever in possession of this gun, that's who gun it is. I don't get a fault. You can tell the police a million times this your gun. Duke get caught with this gun.

This motherfucker is Duke gun. I promise you that that's how they go the feds snatched him and when the feds snatched him his charge and the feds was the gun charge

it's because he had more than one but like yeah the feds they were on them like we on him he can't get he can't get caught with gun he doesn't beat murder charge all type of shit he doesn't beat murder charge all that

so the fed already on him he gets caught with it why I'm saying oh so Duke didn't go to trial that's why he didn't know the thing about it is I don't know if it's true or not, but Yack told Duke, man, just take the little probation shit.

And I feel like he told Duke that because he didn't want his interview to come out. Because if Duke go to trial, you got to take the stand. It's a part of your plea. So you tell Duke, man, take the probation. This shit ain't anybody but you're probation. Take that shit, and then you're driven. Go on forward with your life, man.

So Duke take the probation thinking like, shit, my brother took the charge. I'm going to take the probation for even being around it. They're just charging Duke with it. So they get your probation. Duke take the probation. Word in the street is,

Yat told Duke to take the probation. I don't know how true that is or not, but a lot of people that said, Yat told Duke to take that probation. A lot of people. Reliable sources said that Yat told Duke to take the probation. I feel like he told Duke to take the probation because if he didn't,

he was going to have to take the stand on him. And he didn't want to take stand because he already got to go to jail. So you're saying he would have took the stand. of the fed when to pick it up, basically. Yes. If Duke, no, I'm out of the Fed, pick it up and not. If Duke go to trial, if Duke don't take the plea,

Yack got to get on the sand and Duke trial. That's his plea. His plea was, this and this, you get out of jail, you do this, you do this. But if Duke go to trial, when, when Martinez is on to go to trial, you must take the stand and speak truthfully about what you told us in his interview. That's his plea. If Duke go to trial, he got to get on the stand.

That's, that's, that's Yack plea. And if he took it and she got on trial, went there with it, they never fucked the case up or something. Who? Had to hurt the case? Like if he, if he would have, if he would have, if he would have, if he would have, if he would have, if he would have, if he would have got fired. What the hell you mean? In the, in the, in the, in the, in the goddamn interrogation, dude, yeah, told exactly what happened.

Oh. Yeah, it told. Hey, man, I ain't anything to play with y'all in him. Man, I'm just tell y'all, the truth. It's what happened. It's what you say in the interview. In the interrogation, man, I ain't even going to play with y'all for. I don't even, man.

Whatever I can do this goddamn. try to make this shit light on me, bro. Like, they like, man, what's going on? Got them, whoa, whoa. Obviously, the DA's already on, the DA's already wondering, like, why the hell y'all knick on ice-be chase right here next to the, the Ops hood?

They don't know that Duke got junked on at the club, though. It's on the raps. It's low. We're keeping it low. The street shit, you know, keep that low, gone on, no. Got damn. So, when Yack tell them,

Duke got juntling on that magic. We was on the way to goddamn go spray the off hood. That's why in the interrogation room he was saying shit like they were like oh so you're on Duke for a nigga he's like

I'm gonna shoot I'm gonna drive how I'm a drive and shoot Duke gonna do the book Duke gonna go to shoot he say all this shit in the interrogation

you know what I'm saying like that's what this the interrogation room he's saying this shit and he took a plea and his plea was if Duke

go to when Duke go to trial you got to take the stand so what's the difference between Duke in interrogation room and that interrogation room you're in interrogation room

what's the difference Duke never was in an interrogation room I mean not Duke yet the difference with me and yet situation is yet in the interrogation room telling that Duke did the crime yeah not no bullshit no funny shit in that

go ahead yeah yeah ain't need no harsh feeling I ain't mad and nobody's nothing like I live and learn I want to know what the difference is I want to know your perspective on what's the difference between him in interrogation room talking and you being in interrogation room talking

the difference is he told that that Duke was locked up for these crimes He told about the, he told the police what the dude did. Like, you told him to do. That's the difference between his and mine. I didn't tell him, Roscoe. I tried to freak Roscoe.

I'm saying Roscoe didn't shoot at the bus. We'd be serving these, you knick when they come to Atlanta. He ain't shoot at this bus. They ain't beefing. That's what I'm telling the police. Any street nigga in the world are going to understand that. Any street nigga in the world, not even to say, oh, I read it. Oh, I did what wrong?

No, nigga. But what about the niggas who feel like you're not supposed to mention other nigg's name in front of the police, though? the police mentioned the names. I just gave them my stories. The police mentioned their name. I ain't bringing no nigga name up in the interrogation. The police mentioned any nigga name up.

I brought him Guwop name up, but I brought goop name up to talk about my dealings with Guaup. Like, I'm signed to Gucci. I'm not signed the bird. Yeah. That's why Guaup name came up. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't bringing no nigga name up. You act like I'm in this motherfucker saying, oh, Big Bank, Blatt, a nigga who the police don't know. I'm named a superstar. The police know everyone in these knick. You act like I'm bringing the nigga name up that. I'm asking you.

I ain't saying, I'm saying, you what I'm saying, like the world. Y'all acting like, I'm got down bringing up a nigga name, putting a nigga on the police radar. Man, I'm talking about four-blown superstars. I'm talking about signing. I'm signing to go up. What the fuck could I do to say to get gooop in trouble? By saying I'm signed, I was signed to him. Like, what the fuck can I say about to get Birdman in trouble?

Saying that Birdman and Wayne got a problem. Not Ross going to, Wayne. But can a nigga's, can a nigga take that ass? you're pushing it off on bird like that's a motive i check that motive no because at that point it was already already on fire you got to understand why ain't had i already said they fought nigger over my money this shit was on the internet he already said fuck the fuck the a nigger way a dress man you don't listen to the niggum music he already did all this shit he did so this shit already in the public this shit in the in the public eye i'm not sitting here telling

them nothing giving them something to go with a story to go with i'm in this motherfucker saying man y'all y'all what you talking about like what the problem you'll bird And Wayne, you know what they're saying the problem is. They're saying that bird man, they pain them. Like, what the fuck is you talking about? Yeah. Like, you know that. Even though I feel like, personally, I shouldn't even been saying that because y'all

I already know that. So why do I got to sit in here and reiterate that? But, you know, you're just a young nigga. You're just in this motherfucker like you, Flynn Flammyty for. Yeah. But the difference is, I'm telling me a nigga, my partner, I'm committed the crime that he in jail for. And a nigga like, yeah, telling the police that Duke committed the crime

that he in jail for. the difference. Me asking you, do you understand the difference? I understand a different, but like I said, Shlama, I told you this. Like, you know, looking at it from the size, like, why would you tell that lady, take your number? I told, if you look at the whole interview, and I'm going to put the, not the audio, I'm put the video out so you can see the actual video, too.

I told the lady to take my number on some flirtation shit. Like, we just flirt. When we first come in the room, I was flirting with all this shit on video. When we come in the room, I'm flirting with her. When we sit down talking, she's sitting at the table. I'm talking to her. I'm flirting with this bitch. Not meaning to call no bitch.

I'm flurring with this lady. And at the end of the video, when everybody getting up and leaving out the room, I'm still talking to her because she's getting up late. Like, she's still like getting her shit together and getting up like, well, all right, got them good time to you, woo, woo, woo. And I'm like, man, you don't know anything. Get my number, baby. I make promises.

You know, I'm just flung with it later. Obviously, the world is going to look at how they want to look at it. Yeah, but that's wrong shit to say. Just looking back on, don't you feel like that's the wrong shit to say? I feel like that's the wrong shit to say if I was saying it for the reason, if I was saying it for another reason. I'm saying hearing it. Hearing it.

I'm saying, what that shit sounds like? Like, damn, I understand what it sound like. Yeah. Because I'm mad that niggas for saying shit like that to the police. But the difference is, the difference about me is what in that interrogation did I tell the police for you to think that. I'm saying if y'all want to know anything else get my number.

I didn't tell them nothing for me to even say if you want to know anything else get my number and don't tell nobody. What the fuck did I tell them in the interview for a fan or a nigga who's looking at the interviews? What did I say in the interview for you to even look at this interview and say, and not say he playing game.

Man, he's a playing game. He's talking shit. He didn't tell them shit. Like, yeah? You told. They said who killed nothing? You said Shannon and Wooder. You did?

Yes. So at the end of your shit, When you say, when the police say, well, all right, man, you got anything else you want to say? He say, hey, now, I'm locked up. Y'all got me locked up. Y'all got to let me get out so I can get, so I can get down get around and then I can say, I can have something else to tell y'all. That's a difference than me saying it, because I didn't tell them shit in my interrogation video.

I'm in this motherfucker talking shit with him. Y'all blood, hell, no, man, we fake bloods. We just say that shit in music, crazy. Nobody ain't no real blood. Why ain't that same real bloods? We just talking shit in music. I didn't tell you, I didn't tell them nothing to get nobody. in trouble.

So why would you look at the end of that interview when I said, take my number. I make promises, baby. Don't tell nobody. Why would you look at that part of the interview and say, damn, boy, he was going to get him his number so he can get him information.

What information did I get them anyway? The first, you get what I'm saying. I get exactly what you said. If I'm spinning the police and at the end of my conversation, I say, get my number if y'all want to know something. The smartest nigga you're like, bitch, you ain't telling them then.

What make y'all young needs feel like y'all can spin the police, though? I don't understand that, though. I don't understand that. But them bitches is smart, bro. Br, it's just like movies, just coming up in the game. When you're a real nigga, bro, I feel like I'm a real man. I feel like I honor and I love every nigga who I love.

So I'm willing to do anything to help a nigga that I love. And sometimes you can make the wrong thing. You can do the wrong thing trying to help a nigga that you love. Yeah. By, and when I say do the wrong thing, I ain't doing that wrong in the interview. The only thing I did, well, I feel like I did wrong was even talking to them. In the interview, say. Right.

But I'm doing the interview out of pure trying, I'm purely trying to save my man's. When I first seen the shit on the internet, I was like, oh, man. But I was like, man. Because they mention it. Because I ain't even watch it. I just seen two-hour interrogation video yon thought.

I didn't even watch it. Sline like, man, like, man, like, you got to listen to it, man. Please just listen to it for me. Before you jump out of that, please just listen to it for me. Please, please, please, please. I listen to it. I say, if all I'm listening to, like,

yeah, you're not playing game. but why the fuck is you in us, wow? Because we just young, and I'm thinking, my man, Roscoe, I already locked up for shooting at Lewyne 2 of us. I know that. I know Roscoe got a trial coming up. I know that too.

So as you saying, ain't no way you were telling me because you ain't even in trouble. I'm not even in trouble. Soon as they come in, they say, you ain't in trouble, we ain't talking about nothing that's dealing with you, none of that.

We just got some conversations that we're going to have with you. We're clicking my mind. This is my turn. They're my turn to help my man. This is my chance. We're just young nicks, bro. We're high hell.

We don't draw a week. Like, I'm just thinking in my mind. Boy, this is my opportunity to help my man's. He ain't probably be in a, eat no hot one. Who me? I ain't blown this sandwich. For real?

They get niggas who tell that type of food. They get gill gillings like me who I ain't fin to tell them nothing. They give me the blowing sandwich. I ain't get them nothing. They gave it alone itself. But the folks y'all get me blown this sandwich. I ain't eat it.

I'm like, man, I ain't that shit, man. I think I opened that shit up and ate the cookies or something out of it. I ain't eat this. I probably did eat this sandwich. I was so burnt down on who's saying. like, I was burnt, but I didn't get the luxuries because I didn't get them then.

They would have felt like ain't giving me some of eating. Because I asked them in there, like, man, y'all ain't going to give me that belt? Like, God damn, this is thud, bro. Like, I'm a motherfucker. I'm doing what I'm doing. Like, y'all going to try me like, he was the bloomin' motherfucker. Like, you know what I'm saying? Y'all gave me the n'clock.

You know what I'm saying? God damn. Give me what y'all going to, give me what y'all gave? I know why y'all ain't going to give me what y'all gave him. I ain't gain you that. You don't get nothing in return. You don't get me doing that. Denying my part of involvement with that's two of a bus shun.

Denied me being in a blood, being in a gang. Denied bird, man, having something to do with the shoe with Loeim to a bus chum. Denied me. Denied, man. You don't get that but denial from me. You don't get nothing but denial from me. Everything I did in the interview was on purpose, nigger. That's great.

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You know what I'm saying? You did. You know, whatever. Whatever. How old? But fuck that. This is how I feel, slime. Me to you.

I know you said this shit probably would have came out or whatever. This would have happened. That would have happened. But what I'm saying is, even in them, I don't feel like, you realize what you was going through and then when you got out I don't feel like you was focused by the way you should have been

like I don't feel like I feel like you're taking your blessing for granted that's just how I feel like I ain't here to condemn or goddamn protect I ain't here to do nothing but get your perspective

and fear your energy bro So what I'm telling you, and I'm hoping you feel mine. I'm saying, I feel like you probably got out of jail and truly went, what you, the narrative I went with. What was it? Truly humble on the guard. Yes, sir. I don't feel like you can't humble, bro.

Enough. And I don't know. I'm just saying, I'm from the sideline. I talk when you first got out, first day you got out, you're going to little comment on through. I was like, what I say? But fuck all that, get home and get to it. Nothing else.

I don't feel like you did I feel like you came home playing again I don't need I don't need me I don't know

I said to be honest bro I don't know I don't know I think the crazy part is I thought I came home on fire.

I thought I came home just like popping that shit and just living life and getting back to life and enjoying. But you still got to understand these two bank. My whole life

I poured into people. I built niggas foundations. I built niggas up. My whole life. Any nigga you can name. I play a part, a major part, and they success.

I witnessed it. And I feel like you got to look at it from you got to step in my shoe bank I got to get out of jail and rebuild I got to get out of jail

and rebuild this shit I can't get out of jail and just hit the ground running that's what dumb niggas do that's what a fuck nigga do they go past what the fault they did wrong and they just keep going

rebuilding doesn't mean what like rebuilding your mental rebuilding my mental rebuilding my financial stability rebuilding my organization rebuilding my the rebuilding like the way the world looked

at me the way the world perceived me because you got to think I get out of jet I spent my last 10 years every day with my friends and we build and we're showing the world this is how you're supposed to be this how brothers is this is how we're supposed to do it this is what we're doing so I get out of jail till now I don't got them friends no more so I just

get out of jail I'm used to being with them my last 10 years I've been with them every day so I get out of jail now I got to learn how to not be with them and not because they dead or they went to prison or they did it because because they they betrayed me I can't just get out of jail just going forward bro like I thought I was though but this situation in hand just let me know like damn you ain't going forward you wasn't going forward but then I look at it like damn why I ain't going forward and not going forward like success because I don't look at them nigga like they

success I ain't moving on why I ain't moving on and and I think like because I got a rebuild so do you think watching a nigger look as if they like gonna you think watching gunna look as if though he ain't hurting about this shit of moving on that shit hurting you even more you don't like the word hurt i see how you look at that but the nick got to know when they hurt because all the thing you're explaining is is you're talking about betrayal those words bring heartbreak yeah but bro we we ganges we man bro we bosses bro you know so the thing but i cried on the internet by day, you go fuck, I ain't that gang shit. I know.

The guy hard is, it's fragile. Because, look, and I said this and I just seen, you know, I don't listen to I'm a little bit of the day. Yeah, man, with the head, this nigga talking about today. But I said, I said, something like, because I had already told a little, I said, bro, the reason why slime, and it's just me, I couldn't be tripping. Reason why slime ain't fuck with Gunner, because he already done put the word out and stamped it to niggas, and he got to stand with these niggas.

Not saying this right or wrong. It's like, shit, how the hell I'm feeling? Make these nigger fuck up. They friendship or whatever. They're camaraderie with the nigger. And then I come home. And then I ain't never told you this. I talked to gun when he first got out of jail.

I was trying to get an interview with him. You're like, man, I ain't ready about nothing of these niggas saying. I know my brother in that balk, fuck, though. I was just saying that motherfucker fuck that. That, my mind ain't right. Whatever. I don't get a fuck if he'd tell him these nigger fuck me. If it ain't fuck me when he gets out of jail, they're my brother.

You know what I'm saying? I love that nigga. I know he loved me. he knowing I want to did that shit I triple asked them fault is this going to affect my brother

that's what he told him I took it for face back that's what he told me that ain't the truth I'm just telling you I'm on the outside looking at I'm just telling you what he said that's what he said

oh I ain't saying that the truth he said oh yeah that's what he said he's like I'm just waiting on here word I don't know because your lawyer

could have told him his lawyer could have failed him my lawyer is just a real one Brian a real man he's gonna tell you hey, this is what we got strength at in this trial? This is what we lack at.

This is what you fucked up at in this trial. This is what you got their ass. So that's part of the reason why I took my plea because he's like, you're going to win the case 100%. You're going to get acquitted. But you can't get acquitted with for the shit that they found in your house. It's in your house. The house in your name, everything. Like, even though it ain't your shit. They still got

the law. Tell the jury, you must charge the owner of the house with these items if it's in his house. So Brian, always told me, like, this is what you're going to get convicted at. This is what I feel like you could get convicted of it. He said, you still can win it for sure. I think you're going to win it.

But I got to tell you, I can't tell you. I can't be no bullshit like the other nigga lawyer. I got to tell you. Hey, this is where you're stronger. You strong in every corner of this case except this one. The shit they found in your house, you're not strong in it. No matter what. Nine times out of ten, you can't, you will get convicted of this.

Now, I'm thinking about you saying like you had a rebuild. move on the niggas for 10 years. You had your partner that'd been with you 10 years

and then every day but I used to you're gonna every day every day like every day like to the max like you and

Duke Dututta every day but it was a different every day with you and gonna

but I'm saying that that shit like a marriage um you did what I'm saying so that's like you having your wife

bro and this ain't just your wife she came in with you she came into the relationship bossed up

me now doing this shit doing this shit she came a bomb she came with nothing You made her a millionaire You, you, you founded her

You built her With all honesty Like you built her Just on some honest shit Not even on no I'm gonna build this project It's just like damn But I look at the little nigga

Like my little brother I love that nigga I'm gonna try my bed to help the nigga do something I ain't even know this nigga rap When he first came around me I just was just like on so shit Like man everybody with me I'm taking him with me We're gonna figure out

If he don't rap I'm gonna Whatever we put on this internet and the fans say what the fans commit him the fans put on him that's what I'm going to make him go with if we get on the internet he only got to be a rapper

if the fans say but then he got this shit the nigga drippy is the motherfucker but I'm going to make sure you fresh as a motherfucker every time they see you like we just don't do whatever I can do

to help my niggas or my girl like whatever I'm doing whatever it takes you know what I'm saying so have you have you ever actually sat down and thought to yourself how do I really feel about this

not not how to Well, I take it back to this. How do Jeff feel about this before I saw my brother get killed? How would he feel about it? About what? About, um, gunner, period, just all the way. Like, how do you, like, I'm trying to get you tap into, like, how do you really, really feel?

I know how you, you know how we know how we're supposed to feel about shit. Fuck, that nigga, they need crawl me. That's how we're supposed to feel. How you really feel about this shit. Like, I really, really feel. I feel like. True word King Truth

That's why King's fighter Come from King Truth is the big homie King True is the big homin I honor true words To the T to the T he's not a bad man

He's a real man to me What I identify as a man I honor his words He told me before he died He didn't tell me on his dying bed He just told me before he died Gunner is my son Take him with you though

Get him out of the hood Get him out of Shade the park Take that boy with you They're my son And then just so happened He just ended up dying And I honor his word I honor his word bro

I took the nigga with me everywhere Bro, this is my man's bro Whatever you will All the bullshit that I knew about you All the shit you did The shit that on the On the sin on the poochs Come about your cousin

And then they're telling On the goddamn to the crime stop of people All this shit I knew while this shit later on, but I knew this shit, and I just found a way to love you. You know what I'm saying? I knew it. And I just love you because I just honor true word. And I feel like whatever, I don't know what truth told you, but I know he told you

something good. And I feel like you just didn't honor the word. You ain't under that, bro. You ain't even honor brotherhood. We ain't even talking about truth. We're just about my brotherhood. We're from the street, bro. You know how hard it is for us to become successful men, make millions of dollars?

If a nigga take me from where I'm at sleeping on my mama motherfucking couch to making millions of dollars, I'm dying before I go against him. No matter what, I'm going to die before I go against him, no matter what. I don't think he feels, you know, like I said, I ain't here to goddamn protect or, damn, nobody. I don't feel like he feels like he crossed you. me personally as a man me knowing him he's smarter than he look a smart man he let his silence make you think other make you think other things

about him he's a smart man he's strategic i taught him how to be the thing about it is when it come down to being real i don't the strategic needs go away from me when it comes to being a man like standing on man business a man I don't know how to be strategic but I forget to be strategic when it comes to that I'm gonna say the truth I'm gonna pour it out

where it's supposed to be life to him it's just all about being strategic it ain't about nothing about being a real man or like coming to grips with what's going on or just like

just like knowing like I did that you know what I'm saying it's gonna always be some strategic shit behind it so you You just, like, is it came out of the blue?

You know, usually the nigger, if you, the nigger you, the nigger you described and you would have been saw that, though. So you're saying it just came out of blue with that case? No, but the crazy part is, bro, he didn't, I already did some shit that, that's a violation. Don't nobody really know about it, but me ain't got damn cash, X-O, my brother. He already did some shit that was a violation that I was supposed to cut him off for. He already done did some shit why I was supposed to cut him off of. I just found him.

A new way to love him And I try to be how y'all lives I try to look at him from a different light And be like, maybe he ain't understand Maybe he ain't know I know he knew though Maybe he ain't know The only reason why I knew he knew is because he denied it

Instead of saying damn I ain't even know A nigga that don't know going to say Damn I ain't even know that A nigga that know what he's doing What he's going to say Hell no I denied it like hell not right

Yeah no That's just how to That's just how the circle of life That's how I go you got to understand bro I had that man on me every day since two nine and late two nine and fifteen

I had the man on me every day bro I made him a million now like I bought his first apartment that he lived in I bought it with my money I made him put his money up keep your money

I bought it with my money because I had some little extras I bought that shit I went half and have with you to buy your mama house your mom's first house, get her out of the hood. I did that. Me.

I told you to go down that to the country town and get your daddy, no matter what your differences is with your daddy. I told you that. I know for a fact, me personally, I know your dad don't look at you like a real thing. I know that. It's my man's. Your dad is my OG.

He don't look at you like that. I made you go get your dad. I made you reunite with your family and do the right thing. I just poured my awe into him, bro. I gave this nigga more time than my children, bro. I gave him more time than my kids I gave him more time than my old lady I poured my life into these people

bro like every second I went half on your mama house and bought your mama house bro because you didn't have the money I went half with you I bought your brother his first truck and let you present it to him like you bought it

your brother on the internet man yeah though fuck that nigga though like nigga you don't even know what's going on like you don't even know bro relax this shit that nobody don't know

but we're men so I don't be can to speak on that type of shit we mean I ain't do it for that reason I did it because I just honor my brothers my friendships and brotherhood I honor that shit I love you bro

so man that's cool so you still love him bro I pour so much into this nigga I can't even hate him in jail I thought I hated him when he took the pleas and shit

when they did that I thought I hated to be a nigga nigga my girl made me realize like but you don't hate him you just mad at him you don't hate him you hate him up for you start talking about

why you hate the nigga you on a whole not type of time yeah yeah yeah you stop talking about like well I don't wish no ill

no ill will on him no ill feeling you can't stop the man having no that shit hit the way that's fucked us like

because I was just angry okay but it seemed like nobody understanding why I'm angry like

like all the shit I did for this nigga bro like what are you talking about bro I put my whole label

my whole shit behind behind that boy, man. Like, nigger, you think key, nigga key, dad, you think key or respect you, as a man, you think key to respect you for what you did, bro. You to my RIP, brother.

You know key ain't going to respect you for what you did to me, bro. You know that. You know key ain't going to respect that. You know, ain't no real man going to respect that. You did that, bro. Stand on it. You did that.

Everybody told me why he said and why he quiet, what can you say? What can you say? If you was going to, what can you say? If you was him knowing everything you know about this shit What can you say, if you was him? Just think of something you think you can say If you was in gunned shoes

With what happened? I can't really put myself in the shoes Because I don't just say No, but sometimes guess what, bro. What I think he should say If everything you're saying Is valid, I think he should call you and have a conversation But would you take a conversation?

Because there, niggas, you got to think I don't know any one. All right, so what can I say? I know that. I ain't. even talking about what can you say to me or now that he might want to say something but he know trying to want no conversation so what can i say i feel like you portrayed a certain image as soon as you got out of jail because nobody know you did what you did in the courtroom so soon as you

got out of jail you portray so when you get out of out of jail like a couple of hours yeah yeah like you got out portraying a certain thing a certain image who you're saying any words you're saying god damn this and that you're saying this when you first get out of jail you're saying all this shit. Then the video come out, then it's just like, but this is what the world got to start doing, bank, including you. We got to start putting ourselves in people's shoes. That's why I said, if you were him knowing everything that you know, what would you say?

I probably would do the same thing, not say shit because I'm knowing my man. I don't want to say nothing to the internet or to nobody else. I know that need don't want to hear this shit. No, but you got to understand. The way you putting it is almost like, it's almost like you this interview is almost going to be you telling him what he can go with

we ain't talking about that we're talking about fuck none of that nah because you gotta think if he's sitting around saying like damn on what he can go with his move his neck move we ain't talking about that it's cool I tell him his next move

because I'm just a nigga like that like I don't want to see no nigga down I tell a nigga move bro do this you fucked up but you can do this right here you can do this okay okay all right We're just saying man to man.

Let me say this. When you just sat there and said, you wouldn't take the conversation. That would make me say that. But, all right. If you said you took the conversation, then I would have said what I say. I ain't talking about what you'll say to me.

What you'll say about what you did. Okay, just say you'll say it to me. Hold on what he said to me. I told you what he said to me earlier. That's what he said. The truth. He said it already. I just told you.

Yeah. You know, I ain't ever heard it. Yeah, that's what I said. I just told him he said, goddamn, bro, all these niggas on the internet saying, whatever they're saying, fuck that shit. I know my brother in that box, he ain't in the right head space.

I know that nigga love me. He know I love him. If I would, I swear, I wouldn't have never did nothing that I feel like it hurt this nigga, man. I was there waiting to he get on. He's going to have to say, fuck me. I understand all that. I feel like me being a man,

and we're just talking about feelings and just putting on the line. He probably going to be mad to me for telling you he said that, but he said it. I'm just, what I'm saying. is i understand that i i would think that he would say something like that obviously if you did some shit some bullshit to your big brother that's one of the things you can say right but i got damn but e4 did it he four did me you know what i'm saying that's something you can say that's any

nigger if you would have did what's wrong if you would have did what gonna did you would say the exact same thing bro they're my brother bro like bro i'm just way ain't got damn but e4 tricked me we ain't talking about none of that bullshit none of that cap we're talking about man to man what why did you Do you do what you did? Because I'm here. Because I'm here right now in this interview telling you why I did what I did.

Because I'm a man, nigga. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, I'm right. I'm standing on business as a man. Nick, I'm speaking what, this is what I did. You said, this why I did it. He can't. That's what I'm trying to make you say.

What the fuck can he say? Why you did that? What can you say? Besides some fuck, niggas shit. What can you say? That'll make you say. anybody in the world be like, I understand. What can you say?

Nick, I created you, nigga. Well, God created you, but I helped. I was a part of your journey. I've been with you the last 10 years. I spent more time with you than my girl, bro. I was around you more than I with my fucking girlfriend, bro, with my kids. I didn't have them phone call with my baby mama saying,

man, you'd be with these nigga more of your motherfuck of children, bro. You're supposed to be small. smart enough, and I know you're smart enough. You're supposed to be a man enough. You're supposed to be smart enough to say, I'm not going to do that. I know all this shit that nigger's sacrifice. I'm not doing it.

In your mind, you're taking that nigga, fuck you. That's what it is. Where else can it be? Obviously, you're going to say, well, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. And goddamn, I'm going to just, I'm going to just keep telling the world, man. And my brother, I love him.

So you're saying his whole campaign is a PR stunt. not even to like bash him in that bro i really i'm really but that what you said yeah i ain't i'm just saying like i ain't even trying to bash my name but it's like you can't say nothing to make a man or what we identify as a man a real man a real nigger that's that's that's on morals and principles it ain't nothing you can say but the victim like or the you folk tricked me why i got down they're my brother no matter what they're my brother no matter how you gonna say that to a you just, what are you talking about? We all in this motherfucking trial pushing

why I sell is not a game. This is the narrative. What's the worst betrayal you can do from in a trial where we're saying why I sell is not a game? What's the worst you could do? Say it's a fucking game. Yeah. Nigger, them folk called you second in charge.

The folk called you CEO, second man in charge. Hold on, let me say this, though. What about the niggins? who actually started YSeltu. Didn't they take their plea before Garner? No, he's the first plea. For real? Gunna took the first, he'd know that.

You know that. I didn't know that. Gunna took the first plea. I thought them he was already telling them. No. Gunna took the, they had already told back in the day on crimes and shit that it was involved in all that. No. See, look.

The Rico came in 2022. I'm thinking. The Rico came March 9th, 2022, man. What's the little dude? I mean, May knife. From your hood. D.K. And who is another one, too.

Slug? Yeah. Yeah. thinking that them two are already saying like this ain't and me shy and could start a game right yes and we all identified as the three founders right and um we signed thug and the two founders saying yes again but bank saying is not how is thought wrong

for just being an artist by saying it is too that's what I'm thinking happened no that ain't what happening that ain't what happened back the first plea took was gonna play ever the first plea took was gonna

slow all them took pleas after gonna everybody took the plea after gonna I can't even be as mad at them as I can be as him I can I should because y'all still grown in no matter what the nigga say y'all grown in just like me

when he said why I said was a game. The smartest thing for me to do is say, yeah, it is a game, fuck it. One of the, one of the niggas who they're saying is a founder of it, he's not even a founder. One of the niggas who they're saying as a founder that came on out and took a plea and said, it's a game. You'll be a motherfucking idiot to sit in here saying that it's not a game.

When you got a nigga who these folks are in labor, that's the second man in charge. That's what I thought happened, but the other way around. No, he took the plea first. Gunna took the plea first. Gunna took the plea first. Then them niggins started taking the plea when we start going to court. government didn't never make it in the courtroom remember the first day of court was december

november 17th or december 17th one of them days were the first time we wasn't on zoom the first time we went into an actual courtroom all 28 of us but watching that shit on the street but that shit was another one every day another one but the crazy part is another one get wet bank even if them niggas was dumb niggas some bullshit anyway but some bullshit too but even if them niggas just look at it from their point of view niggas like dk slug out on it I still I don't expect them, nigga, because you're just not men. Y'all niggas is not me. Shouldn't no nigger make you do nothing that you're not supposed to do.

But just look at them. Okay, gonna take a plea. He's a head nigga in charge, according to the DA. Doug, it's boss fan. Doug, John Goddard, what they're saying. Doug, John Godot. I'm not know what John got it now. I'm a real man, man.

Solid, nigga. I build foundations. I help, niggas. I'm not portraying no gangst or none of that. It's just so happened. We just street niggas, and we understood on our business. So they label us gangsters. I don't push none of that.

I push. real man they're saying that I'm the founder this shit and this nigga is the head man in charge he's the second boss

when this trial started they're not saying DK is the one of the owners Mundo one of the owners Slug one of the owner they're not saying Thug is the owner and Gunna is the second man

in charge I thought they said they ain't have thug and no no I mean not thud my bad I thought they said they ain't have Gunna in like

none like nothing against him Garner was in Garner didn't have no case where we had nine terabytes. You know how many paper that there, bro? Nine terabytes of discovery. That's over 300 million pieces of paper, front and back.

300 million pieces of paper. That's how much evidence they had. 300 million pieces of paper. Wow. I think it was 9 terabytes, 2 terabytes. Whatever that is, it was terabytes. That shit equaled up to 300 million pieces of paper. I remember I remember the lawyer's arguing in the court I remember the lawyer saying like

Yana they got to take some of this shit the evidence that we're not going to use and just get this shit out of the way because y'all just packing us with evidence and we just got a little time to like go through the evidence it's so much paperwork y'all might be coming to court trying to convict him on this these five pictures but

you got 16 million pictures I remember just going to court arguing about that type of shit with the lawyers like judge we we're trying to dumb this shit down some of the They know they're not using. So we need to know what they're really using so we're going to focus on it.

So it can be a fair trial. You need to be fair. So I'm saying that to say, out of all that paperwork, bro, gone to name one piece of paper out of 300 million pieces of paper. Did he know that? Yes. Hold up.

Let me, let me, I get you slide. Let me play devil advocate right now, okay? And I ain't trying to protect or defend or offend nobody. I'm just going to keep saying that. What I'm saying is, all right, y'all ain't talking, right? Y'all ain't talking? Yeah. So I'm gonna.

Yeah. Why we locked up. Yeah. Nah. Okay. I called a few times time to talk to him, but they were just giving me the runaround. That's what I started figuring not being, like, I don't get it. Your girl, his girl, his mama, you know what I'm saying?

The women in your, you're like, they done got you in some, basically. You ain't on no paperwork. So basically, he is just like, when, um, you know, phone call his case and went to jail all that time for nothing. That's how he would probably feel like I ain't going to go to jail for nothing. I understand that. Okay. I'm just saying like, don't you put that in perspective.

I overly. Because you got, you got people that's watching this don't give a fuck, no name about no street code, no nothing. I know, but we're talking about street niggas. Okay, yeah, yeah. We're not talking about no one fucking white boys who went to college. We're talking about street niggas. You consider the gun as a street nigger.

Yes. You're portraying a street nigger. Okay. You're talking about no telling in your song You're talking about a street nigga You're talking about stepping on shit You're talking about all type of shit in your music You're standing on street nigger business

You do everything street niggas do That's a fact You are portraying a street nigger If you're not a street nigga, don't portray it You portraying a street nigger Street nigger aneurisms You portray every one of them That's a fact

I look at you like a street nigger You my little brother, I love you to there I look at you like a street nigger though I don't look at you like a dork or no lame or none of that. I look at you like a fly, nigga, you're just kicking your pimping and doing this, doing this and that.

Well, I definitely look at you like a street nigger. Okay, look, let me say this. And this is the last thing I'm going to say because I don't want to sound like I'm trying to fend on this. Can you look at it like, bro, you got it. You had to be in the fucked up mindset if you played guilty, knowing you wasn't guilty. Overly.

That's one of the things why I always, that's why I'm at the point now where I'm like, I feel like my back of, against the wall, and people ain't heard me out. So now I understand his point of view, like, damn. That's why I say shit, like, I would love to hear what he got to say. Because then I can actually judge him.

Tell it to you. Tell it, say it, nigga, said publicly, don't, don't tell it. You publicly said, why I said it's a criminal street game and it must end. You publicly said, yes, ma'am, when they said, I know three or more co-defendants on this case. well three or more co-defendants on this indictment which is the 28 niggas I know three or more niggas that committed these crimes murder

attempted murder aggravated assault damage to property shooting their houses pay the car thefts armed robbers you said I know three or more people on this indictment that has committed these crimes publicly

they asked you that in the courtroom you said yes ma'am first of all you don't know nobody on this case all 28 niggas they from John versus South Cleveland Avenue and other places like that he's from the south side he don't know nobody on this case

this was so weird out of all 28 people on this case all you know is three niggas me Gunna and Duke that's the only niggas you know on this case are gonna so when you said yes I know three or more niggas that committed these crimes who the fuck is you talking about me gunna and Duke

Because we're the only niggas you know anyway. I know you could have been talking about anybody at school. But just so happy how the dice roll, you don't know anything but three niggas. So who the fuck you could? Like if he would have went to trial, the state, if his shit was getting used in trial, which it was, unless I got out of the case,

his plea agreement was going to get used in trial. I know they're saying like, oh, he ain't had to get. I thought an effort plea don't mean that. Yes. He had to get on the, he ain't had to get on the sand. You know, they're pushing all those narrows. He didn't have to get on stand. He wasn't going to testify against nobody.

Yes, he was. If you look at the end of his plea, that shit said, say, this plea agreement could be presented in trial. And if any questions come up about this plea, however they wrote it, if anything come about this plea, you must come testify truthfully about what you said in this plea. No. Nick, look, every one day, police said that except mine.

Every police said that except mine. And look, nine. Every one of them nigga who took a plea in the beginning of their trial, police said that. Duke, please said the same thing. Oh, you ain't got to get on the stand. Duke had to get on the stand.

The week, the case was over with, Duke was getting on the stand that week. The week, all this went on and took out, please, at the end of the trial. Duke was getting on the stand that week. Duke was outside the courtroom sitting on the bench waiting to get called in and get on the stand. So how Duke did what right then?

Because he didn't say why I said it was a game. He only said, when y'all put Duke on the stand, Duke can't send nobody to prison. Duke pleads only saying that A nigger told on him. Okay, I'm right. When nobody on that case, but Duke of Yack. Only thing Duke police said was,

this nigger Yatt told on me, and I'm just agreeing to it. Because if I don't agree, I'm going to go to trial, and Yack going to get on the stand on me. So he got to take the plea. The thing I don't respect about Yack is, before we knew Yacht told,

when Duke took the plea, I was pushing the nerves like, that fuck, nigga, Duke did what wrong? Like, damn, but my bed friend? Why, Duke, you do that? I'm pushing that shit every day in trial, every day. You're asking right here with me, bro, every day. Yeah, my little brother, I love this nigga to death, bro.

I got this nigga on my house. The house is this thing in my living right now? I paid for this house. Bro, you send right here with me every day, bro. Fade the face in this trial. Me, you and Shannon, the last three niggas on this trial. And Laquay them, I meant. Me, you Shannon, Laquay and LaRod.

We don't got down the fire deep. Sit deep. You know how we is in this motherfucker. Man, back against the wall. Fuck that. Then we rocking. Fuck that. These nigga left.

We're gone. that we rockin you sending this motherfucker every day with me two years straight at them folks took their plea and you let me and you let me paint this narrative to you shannon and you agreeing with the narrative that duke told on you we're saying back in the in the back of this courtroom when we on trial every day i'm coming back in the courtroom we coming back from in the courtroom when you go when we when we leave out the courtroom we go in these little sales behind the courtroom we're sending these sales i'm in these sales we just talking like me and like Like brothers, damn, boy, that nigga, dude, I can't believe Duke, bro.

I kind of can get it with, yeah. I mean, with Gunna, because he didn't betray me before. So I kind of get, he can betray me. He'll betray me. But I'm looking at Duke, like, Duke, my best friend. Duke being on me the last 20 years. Like, you're my best friend. I'm from John Brousel, you're from John Burrow.

Duke, my man's. Duke, now ain't tattooed on me. Duke, my man's. Gunna, too, yeah, too. He had two. He'd be my boy. I need my boys. You sin in this motherfucker every day.

and we in this cell crying to each other and talking like, damn, buddy, you nigga really betrayed or these nigga left for it, bro. This nigga dude now fucking because Duke plea

sound crazy. Duke plea saying, yes, I got jumped on that majesty. Yes, me and Yack went to go retaliate and commit murder

on the opposite. Yes. So I'm, Yack still on a trial with me. So I'm looking at like, Duke, you took that plea and said that? Fuck,

nigger, you did that? Why you just told on Yack? I'm sitting this motherfucker every day with Yack. every day I'm sitting in this motherfucker with you every day I'm like but damn they fuck nigga dude jay cross you like that bro they nigga dude jay got you sitting in prison bro you going to prison yeah but dude yeah got you sent to prison bro damn dude

this fuck nigga sitting in here with me every day saying man fuck that nigga man fuck them nigga bro we gotta goddamn when we get out of this shit we make it out of this situation bro we gotta go for and it's just us we ain't hang with none of these nigga we ain't fucking with these nigga fuck these nigga bro bro bro damn every day we did this shit every day for about Just on the two-year, bro. We was going to trial every day. The whole time, when them niggas took the plea,

the whole time from that day before, we just sitting in this motherfucking cell and you're going through it every day. Like, damn, boy, you nigga did that. Knowing, damn, well, the whole time you told on Duke. Duke took the plea because you told on him. And if Duke didn't take the plea, you would have had to get on the stand on Duke

because that was your plea agreement. Your plea agreement was if Duke go to trial, you got to get on the stand and testify that you're going to go kill these niggas because they jumped on Duke. you got to get on the stand and say that because you said that in your plea, sir. If you get on the stand and you say

something different than that, they're going to treat you like Muntun. You're going to prison. You got to get on. You got to know what Muntu in prison. Yeah, because he said this in his plea agreement. Yes, when Nutt died, we pulled up on Thor, he gave us money to Lalo.

We did this and did that. He said it in the plea. But one thing I do respect about Muntun is when he was doing his plea, you know, you negotiated back and forth with the state. So when Muntunton was, doing his plea, he was telling him to take that out like, hell, no, that ain't what happened. When Nutt got killed, we didn't pull up at Thud condo and he gave us some money to lay low.

That ain't what happened. Thud didn't pay us to kill Nutt. No, he was saying, take all that shit out of plea, like, hell now. But the state tricked him, like, we ain't taking it out to plea, but you can agree to it now. And when you get on the stand, you can speak your truth. So he's like, y'all sure. Because he knows, if I get on the stand and say something opposite of what I'm saying in this, I can go to jail. So are y'all sure that I ain't going to go to jail if I get on the stand and speak?

my truth. They just wrapped him in the bad. They just wrapped them up. Rock them up like a gift. Yeah. You can get on this stand and say whatever you got to say, but you got to say this in his plea. So that's why he was on the stand. That's why Muntzum was like, no. That's why the judge was like, so when you said this in his plea,

you're saying that that ain't really what happened. And Muntam were like, no, that ain't really what happened. And I told them that they need to change this in my plea. But they said they can't change it in the plea. I got to just say it when I'm on the stand. So how would it got to goddamn be able to do what he did like

go up there and just like... Because he wasn't... He told in the beginning so all his telling led to him not being on the indictment. All he's telling led to him not being in trouble with us. He's not on the case. When the case started, it was 28 of us. We'd 1-9-1-1-0. So it ain't no matter what he'd get

in the courtroom and say he can't go to jail because he's not a part of the indictment. He's not a part of the case. He's an he's an un-indicted co-conspirate. He's not on the case. So he can get in the courtroom and say yeah I killed nothing I killed this I did this I did that

can't nothing happen to him because he already signed his he's already signed his immunity when you sign an immunity you can say whatever you want to say I understand yeah and that can't get you know right

no can't nothing happen to you when you say what you want to say that's the point of immunity when you sign this paper you're going to tell the truth and nothing can happen to you you can't be locked you can't get in trouble

for saying whatever you want to say what made them get him that because they thought he was going to get on the stand and say what he said in his interviews. Okay. They thought he was going to get on the stand and say, yeah, shit. So they're banking the whole case on Woody? Yeah, he was the lead.

He was the lead. Those folks was in shambles when that nigga acting like he wasn't going to testify. Remember, the first time he got in the stand, he like, goddamn, man, I ain't testifying. The judge, like, you sure? He's like, yeah, I ain't testifying. Take me to jail. I sit in jail. But when they order you to get on the stand and you don't get on the stand, it's two things can happen.

You can get locked up into the judge. to let you out. You can get locked up for 21 days or you can get locked up for the duration of the trial. Whatever trial you're involved in. You can get locked up. So normally trials be five days. So if a nigga get on the stand in a normal trial and don't agree, he'll go to jail for five days. Because you got to get out of

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He locked up for like four, five days. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I ain't never really heard you say no bullshit about Woodard. No, because not even to speak on, like, a certain community, would it like take medicine? Woody, like, you know what I'm saying? He throw it off a little bit. He awful of it.

So I always look at anything he'd do like a kid, like my son. Like, he's going to do me. He don't got the functioning brain that we got. We'll take real medicine. So I ain't even- It sounds like he got a lot of sense to me. Yeah, but that's just come with like you're just learning what to say

when you're going through life. You just learning things when you're going through life. You know what I'm saying? The craziest niggas in the world are always the ones you think got to scent. But that thing ain't crazy. Man, that nigger take real medicine. He overly did what's wrong.

I definitely don't respect what he did. But I respect what he doing. You can tell he different. That's what I respect. Like, I don't need to be joking at him because, like, I'd be seeing him doing his little shit on the internet where he's just, like, talking to kids, or he's just trying to do things.

He's just trying to do things. He's just trying. Like, all right, I don't respect niggas, like, right, I don't respect certain niggas because you'll get out of jail and still be doing the same thing. If you, that's why I say, if you tell, just going to make you some gospel music, going to do, just get out of the way. That's what keep you away.

That's what keep you away from certain shit. Just get out of the way, bro. I don't respect, no rat, but I respect. If you tell, you can't put, betray no street nigger you got to get out of it you got to get out the way once you do that yeah i agree with that you're not running around acting like no gang so you're not doing that no more you ain't doing that all that shit is dead man you told it's dead i think he for real about trying to change it like i understand it just like i think so too because he got he got the

he he got he he crazy enough to the point where he don't got to change and he still won't be at fault because he really crazy he really throw it off but the fact that you crazy and you still trying to change it's like i i say left Why you let Roscoe get on there and stir that pot, though? You got to think, bro. I can't talk to certain niggas. But it's just like with Roscoe, that's my man. He just love me.

You know how that shit goes? Like, he loves all of us. Everybody who's on this shit. He love all that one nigga. He just upset, too. He's just mad. He love all these niggas. The same way I was in that interrogation room

trying my best to get him out of trouble or trying my best to paint a picture of him like, man, hell, no, shout a real. I ain't do that. Yeah. He's just doing the same shit on the internet with me. Like, he's just looking there. He didn't know me.

He's like, man. Shout out of that. Shout out of that. Shout out of rat. Shout out. I'm telling you, he ain't a rat. He's a man. Not even a gangster.

Shout out of man. I respect it. It's just the same shit I was trying to do with him in the interrogation room. He's just doing the same thing with me. Like, he's just trying to take off from me. You know, that's how I go, bro. When you're a man in real heart, bro, with a real heart, bro, you're standing on real business and everything just ain't a chest move to you, bro.

you're going to have false you're going to have hiccups you're going to have certain shit because you're just a real person I just don't like to see the city in the climate that it's in it's like too divided bro and then they're trying to say like you're the head leader or dividing the whole city

like all your beats divide this shit this nigga thug this and this like how you speak on that see the thing the thing that made me not sitting in a sororalo is because when I first first got locked up. The narrative that

the DA was pushing was he divided the city. He made all these people beef, which is a complete lie. I made niggas get together. I stopped a lot of beefing. I sought a lot of niggas from getting beef. I only had one beef my whole life. And it went even my fault. I stopped a lot of niggins from beefing. I got William and Savage on the phone to stop whatever could have happened with them. I got niggas on the

phone. Hey, bro, we brothers. Fuck that. We ain't talking about no internet shit and what's going on in the world. We're talking about real life, nigga. Both of them are going to get on your motherfucking platform and say the same thing. Yes. That nigga got both of us on the phone and told us, man, y'all nigga, fuck, we ain't beefing, bro. We ain't beefing, bro. Everybody in this rap game,

everybody in the industry all over the world. Look at Atlanta like the home time of niggas who stick together. So that's what I'm on. Everybody. As Wham. As Savage. I got them on the phone to stop their beef. And we And other niggas. I got a lot of niggas on the phone to talk about a lot of shit.

I got goddamn little kid and Ola Rant on the phone. Hey, bro. Me and Gouap motherfucking big homies in this shit, man. In this rap game, man. We got damn, we real niggas, man. We big homers of the rap community.

Like, we ain't doing that. Ola Runt, you up on the Gucci, key, you up on the me. Y'all nina, we ain't doing that beef shit. No. When nine vicious and ooze and o'vert like if they're feeling to get into it. Hey, man, y'all nick called me.

We ain't doing it. What in what aspect? What in my entire career that's been up on a fucking microscope at what point in my career can you or anybody in this world honestly say he stirred this pipe? They can say

I'm glad you had that. They can say the shit you were telling baby about P is like trying to break up a family. No, but from my point of view the family was never a family from my point of view just being real. I told baby in a lure inside

a strip club. Don't sign that deal with Pee. after I told Pete to sign them because I thought people just gonna do the right thing when I told Pete to sign a little baby I end up finding out all the shit about the Migos

what he did with the Migos and shit like the ownership and all that shit I found out of all that then I tell him like hell no don't sign with P hell no

hell no don't sign with him in the side of the club in the strip club where we in this motherfucker probably throwing ones and looking at females I'm in this motherfucker having

a heart to heart with him my little brother hey hell no don't sign with him yeah no not even saying people pee no bad nigger on none of that but it's just like you he ain't my type of that man what i view as a man he got some aspects that i view as a man you know what i'm saying he take care his family he do

what he needs to do for as far as his close family he's real family he takes care of real family he takes care his kid he'll father to his sons and his daughter he's dad i look at i respect that part but like i respect his business part too because i'm a businessman but i just do business different so i don't do i wouldn't do business like him like i went sign wham and because we knew P before he signed with him so we all was family like I know your son like they're my little brother you think I would ever in my life consider a little one my little brother

if I sign him and take 100% of his masters 100% of certain shit like any percent you think I would do that it's my little brother me personally I know but you're supposed to get so I understand that but

a lot of shit is fair because he a mastermind in his music game he know rappers don't get rich off of music rappers get rich

off of their shows their endorsement they don't get rich off strings we get rich off shows endorsements and masters rappers get the last money rappers get them

rappers to be okay with the master money nigger like Swiss beat Missy Elliott Timberlin they got rich at an older age

They got rich off of their masters. They was able to sell their masters. You see what I'm saying? And get a bank roll. We know that. Every P, know that. But we watched P-pour and the baby like a motherfucker. No, he didn't.

Because you've got to understand. Wham took off so soon as he started. He didn't even get a chance to spend no real money on baby. Wham took off off time. He first on. The first song he put out with trip. Like third song. Then we had that,

um, uh, And then Wayne went on tour. That nigga left them. We was on a little tour, a little run. Yeah, but he was already doing freestyle. Yeah, he did that. What the name of that song was, um, huh?

Not my, for my dog. Free style. And, you know, there's an option. Money was the option. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this shit had the shit with, uh, Molo. Molo. And then that got, then what's the name?

But freestyle was out. When all that was out, too. Freestyle was just his biggest song at that point. It was? Yeah. All that shit came out around the same time. All that shit probably came out the same year. I'm saying that.

and say he didn't have to spend money on Wham. He spent money on Wham just so he can have leverage to take a certain part of the cake and say, I spent money. He didn't have, I'm my business, man. I'm telling you, bro, man to man. I tell him to his face, just man to man to, no problem with you, no ill-filling, no nins.

I just tell you man to man face-to-face. You didn't have to spend no money on Wham. I spent a lot of money on Gunner, because it took Gunner a few years to blow. I put that nigg on son. Me, Travis Scott and Gucci, all type of shit. Gucci don't know the phone like, who the hell of brother? I'm like, they're gone to my new artist.

I'm got them. Travis Scott, these folks don't know who this nigga is. They don't know him. Like, I put a lot of push behind. It took him four, five years to blow. Wham blue first year rapping. How did you spend any money? I know the real business.

I ain't going off of it. Because you got to understand. Most of us just regular street niggas. So we're looking at it like, damn, but he nigg. But he nigg going back to bed row of us. But he nigg did you. Man, that shit, $35 a little. a day, man.

That's in $3,500. You have made $50 million off of Migos and Wham. Of course you're supposed to buy Wham and Rowsworth truck. It's his money. Of course. I bought Gona a road russ truck

off of my money. Not no money I made off him. I ain't never make a dollar off Gunna. Ask him. Never. This is my little brother. And I spent millions on the nigger. We just were still getting money.

I'm still getting money. So I ain't never tripping. I ain't never get to the point where I was like, damn, I need the money. I was just still getting money. God was just still blessing me with money. So I ain't even never have a chance to be fucked up and try to get some money from Gunner. I never did that. I always fought his money up and had to call him to get money.

Always. I never made a dollar off of this nigga, bro. And then my paperwork only remember my deal with him. I think my deal say something like 50% massive, 50% of all money that come in, all revenue. My deal were going to. I've probably got a 50% of everything that ever came out. because I had a bullshit manager at the time I had a fucked up manager at the time

when I made, I created my label. So my manager was one of them type of niggas like P like money hungry motherfucker like the nigga Manning. The nigga from New York. He was one of them niggas that was just like a money hungry nigga, which is not bad. I respect him. He made me a lot of money too.

But he didn't want who structured my deals. Like my paperwork when you sign on me, he don't want who structured this shit. So I signed Gunner, Back then, when my label was about on his structure. That's just your way or do it be. Because you're doing business out your heart. Other nigger doing business.

I understand that. I ain't tripping on the business. He signed Migos from Gucci. That's business. You don't know them now of that. You and William Big Omick is best friends. Wham is your little brother. Before Wham was rapping.

William, little brough, like been coming around you, been doing certain shit, been at your studio, been doing shit, just gambling. Before he was rapping. Like this real family This little brother I'm telling you Him and Wham was like Like brothers

All this was brothers Well me and Wham was brother And P and Pee and Wain with brother You know what I'm saying I never really looked at P like a brother I always looked at him like A business man Like what's up my boy

Like you know what I'm saying I ain't ever look at him like Like family Cause we in business We damn their competition Not to me because I fuck with your artist I did songs with Migos When I was lit and they won

I did song with Wham Before he made music I paid for Wayne first studio session Not no fucking Pee I paid for that. I paid for his first song. I did the first feature with him. Me.

When he was just a regular, young street, nigga gambling. I seen that. I'm telling you, this is all facts. This ain't nothing if he can get on here and twist

and lie and say. This ain't anything where I can say. Linesay and say, this is all facts. You didn't have to spend no money on him. You didn't. You didn't have to spend no money, bro.

Just me knowing the business. Me being a boss man, a CEO in this business. You ain't have to spend no money on. He blew too fast. If anything, college spent goddamn half a million.

And that was just because you wanted to. Not because you were trying to make him blow. That y'all nigga blew up so motherfucking fad, bro. You ain't even had time to spend no money. That nigga was, bro, that nigga was doing show. That nigga was, bro. Nick, I've been rapping since 20096, sell. Little boy, I blew up 2015.

We spent a lot of this shit trying to blow. Wham blew up first year rapping. At what point could you spend money? How? How? How? I don't know their business. I'm just saying, I ain't even saying their business.

I'm just saying, like. I said, I don't know that business. I don't know. The musical business. I know it. I'm a CEO. He ain't have to spend no money on Wham. He spent money on Wham, but I feel like he did it strategically.

I feel like he did it. So niggas like you and niggas like us, that's regular niggas, that's street niggas, can feel like, shout up, shout, shod, shodd up. Yeah, because he already had a labor, already had a machine. So it's like, damn, they just put shot at a machine. He blew up. But you really? We can say he blew up fast. because he had the machine too off the real.

I think he had the street machine before that. I think he did have that. I'm telling you, that nigga been getting 10,000, 15,000 lights on his picture when he was a regular person. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I agree with that, yeah. I'd be wanting to give P the cooking because I respect some of the business he do. Some of the shit he did, I respect it. I be wanting to give him the cookie, but I'm just a man, bro, I'm a real nigga. I think Pete Lord Wham.

No, I ain't saying he don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't saying that he don't. I'm just putting that out there because I know, like this shit crazy. I just, fuck out of that. how do we get the city back to I feel like the bed time I say y'all nigga had man

when got damn you know because by the time y'all nigga really hit that summer it was goddamn you Rudy it was you Rudy prom got damn

baby goddamn who else with y'all it was just like it was looking like Atlanta what that video was ATL they sent me the song

to get on the song ATL song with Marlowe and got damn wow that shit was looking like yeah these young nina got it they got the city they got it

like like you know because that was right after who had it future let's say future and you know your era future you

rich home and all that but it was like you were bringing because you were right that with them young like I'm bringing a new arrow

that's the baby the goddamn Marlow the uh Rolo just all that problem child

everybody like fuck that we we united Like, how we even get back for the city to be that? That's what I want to know. What I want you to think about is who united all of them nigga together? Shline did it. So how we do it then, Shline?

How we do that now? Like, how we do that? I think... At least to the point, the way it don't be no bullshit. No casualty. Yeah, because all this shit is going on, all this talking, they're going to do them of Bill, egos. Because Obama to each other, hey, man, you got to stand on their ego.

That's why I don't, like, I don't, you're going to never see me condemn a nigger on these podcast, bro, because I already know how this shit go. Niggas ready to go out bad behind their ego and their name. So, nigga, when I first came to shit, I fuck these niggins. He ain't going to do that. You know what I'm saying? But now it's like, I ain't known that, bro. I'm trying to, because I already know, bro, it's like, how do y'all,

you know y'all, beat these folk and think these folk, happy y'all beat them. I know they ain't, bro. That's what I'm saying, whoever, the energy, whatever, nobody, like, you can't brain the energy back, bro. Niggas can't do that shit. Niggas' ass gone. Like, when that boy fell out of their motorcycle, they furred they put the young nigga Woody.

When you fell out of the motorcycle, they put it, they just put out the watch name at first, him laying on the ground. I prayed for that young nigga. Like, man, I hope he ain't got shot. I hope he ain't nobody shot this boy. Because it's been to be some, man, niggas going to jail for good.

Facts. For good. Like, fuck out. There ain't going to be no more of that. Maybe shit. And ain't going to beat them other people. Better Raleis. Yeah, so what the fuck?

I know niggas, man. I don't know, man. I don't know if niggas. I'm too old, bro. I can't go sitting there motherfuckler. So I'd be trying to tell these niggies. God, damn. You're 40 to seven?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying, bro. I ain't trying. I learned my lesson. Bro, I was at, I was at us. The thing I'm going to like about what Rallo said is, why is you paint that picture knowing that I'm the reason a lot of nicks cool with each other and the DA just painted this same picture?

That's police shit to me, bro. you can't get on the internet and say fuck nigga you really divided the city how the hell did I divide the city I brought the city together I was at us with Lucci As Luchin is The big size though no

Yeah for sure Of course So that's divine though No Because if a nigga don't fuck with you Knicks ain't fuck with you No That's not divine bro because

You gotta know You gotta know the background You gotta know what's happening Behind the media You gotta have When me and Luce was at us and the hype in the

hype of the beef ass luci what I did with him at the hype of brother this shit I got nothing to do with me or you let make a song

I don't want no smart with you bro I tweeted it go on Twitter it's on my Twitter still back then but they can be considered as trolling no it's not I say it could be considered as trolling

man if a nigga get on the internet to say you're a sister you're a punk nigga I fuck your whole woo woo if a nigga get on the internet and I get on the internet and I get on the internet and and go up on a

his, um, if I, if I reply to him on the internet and say, my nigger, I don't want no beef with you, no none of that. Let's do a song, bro. That's not trolling. I'm saying, I ain't saying, well, trolling. I'm saying, it can be considered that. It can be considered trolling. Yeah, but as to Lutche of yourself, and I bet you he's going to say everyone's trolling.

Oh, you're saying, because you know, he knew, he can't take it. I'm talking about the people. For sure. I ain't fuck the people. We're talking about us, real life. You said, he know, like, you already had them reached out to him before you even put that up. You said to him and in public. I said in public.

at the hype of it I'm not known for that though known for standing here ground a nigga say something about man nigga fuck you what I'm on that you know I'm on that

what I'm not known for that nigga I stopped from doing that and said bro let's do a song I did him on Instagram too we did him on Instagram I'm like lame man

nigga let's do a song I don't want no beat with you bro doing the song it's gonna be bigger than beefing I'm telling you I can bring you up to my level I'm telling you

I deal him this But, you know, we're in the hype of the beef. But don't know about to know that, though. I know that, but I don't care to express it neither because I'm a real man and I don't do shit for certain reasons. I do it because what I feel, like, this is me. You know what I'm saying? Now we get to the point where I'm doing the interview with you. Now I'm telling the world.

That's what I'm making the point when you say, how could Rolow do that? I'm showing you how he could feel like. No, because I don't have a conversation with him too. Oh. I don't have a conversation with Rolo too many times before he read it. I don't have too many conversations with this boy. I wouldn't even tripping on him riding because it don't got nothing to do with me. I'm mad that you did what wrong because I looked at you like a real nigga.

But they don't got nothing to do with me, so I ain't tripping. I ain't going to fuck with you, but I ain't got anything to do with me, so I ain't tripping. You see what I'm saying? My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like...

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Yeah. The Rosco said, the niggas. Sean, who nigger's saying, told on Rollo, came and said the same shit. Like, bro, they must try and put some shit together, bro. Like, basically, you ain't tell on me. But, no, that ain't basically you ain't tell on me. What are he saying? He didn't tell Rollo.

Why would he be on the phone with this nigga? The nigga got a dog food kid. Why would he be on the phone with Rollo? I'm just asking, I'm playing WL. Why would he be on the phone with Rollo acting like, nigger you ain't telling me? If I, nigga, you can't call me if you told on me. This is the difference. This is the difference.

You got a man who ain't really got anything going on in the world. So he damn there gotta go for certain shit. He damn there. Rallow is the nigga in their hood. He's the nigga who getting the money

he's getting in their hood. He doesn't have got to take care of you even though you locked up for some shit for some shit that could possibly have something to do with him or some shit like that. He didn't even like you you got to just go with him.

You don't got no other help. That's number one. But that's that ain't. that ain't them ain't facts though that just that could be I'm just saying that could be when they come to certain niggas okay yeah like and then we gonna speak on the real facts when you're gonna speak on what something could be

the real facts is you have paperwork where you're saying yes he said this yes he said this yes he did this yes he you got paperwork on you he got a big ass book that ain't in that book what a paperwork is bro this nigga I got so much shit sealed

and listen bro I don't even care to do all this type of shit in the interview. We can fad for it then. Man to man. Yeah. Rallow. I don't even give a fuck about who he told on. I know 100%

he was going to take the stand on me and Luchin. I know. That's a fact. On my freedom. On my freedom. That's a fact. Right hand. On my freedom.

Fact. He agreed to get on the stand on my case. Say what? Whatever. knew about me and lucci beef if he knew something i don't he ain't know that he was in jail done that the whole time we were beefing he just you just squirling bro you just in the bitch you're just trying to get out of jail you lot of us a punk-ha-pad ad weed niggas sit down sit down like you did all this extra shit all this extra talk bruh we i know for a fact

you are gonna take the stand on my case and luci case all right we we've been a fad for this shit how do we stop giving a fuck about what goes on real street niggas is millionaires like how do we stop giving the fuck about this street shit that's all I'm saying

like I think we got it's better than the nigger but how do we stop giving them for because to some people the shit we're talking about is ignorant

to some people yeah to some people but not what we're from we try to uphold some shit though ain't about upholding it's about manhood bro we're man we ain't gonna

I ain't gonna do that no I'm asking we mean but I'm still having the conversation with you though fuck I don't get that we make a trillion

dollars but still would you look at Elon much, like, but you ain't, if Elon Musk, fuck a young girl, is you gonna look at it like, man, that nigga got damn, that I made business out, but that nigga mine the whole other place. No, nigga right is right, wrong is wrong.

I don't go fuck what you made. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Bro, I'm tired of you rash about this shit. I swear to God, bro. I don't got, I don't got no problem with Rollo. I'm one of the first niggas in the city that fuck that did some, that did any type of fucking with Rollo. Me and Rollo had real smoke.

I got on the phone, Rollo when he was in jail. Like, hey, what's up? I'm praying you get out, bro. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Then you get out, push up on me. Like, I'm all for helping somebody, bro. I'm telling you, bro, this is what makes me happen. Helping the nigga is what make me happen,

not even getting millions. But y'all nigga lead in the game, though, bro. Wait, what? Leading the game, like, you're on the biggest niggas in the game, bro. I understand. It's like, you got to kind of set a president for the young niggers. You know what I'm saying? Like, all right, cool.

That cool. That's what we know, bro. All this shit you're talking about come from trauma. You're saying that man, but they come from trauma. You just said and said, you was just a kid. Didn't know nothing to your brother got killed. That shit fucked you up in front of your face. Like, damn.

Fuck that. Then murder came to your mind. Then this shit came in your mind. Then the way a nigga living, all this shit. That shit is untreated, some untreated shit, bro. The way of a nigga think is untreated, dog. That's all I'm saying. I ain't saying that a nigga, nobody wrong, nobody in the fuck.

everything that we all went through and going through is a trick bad I'm already knowing that that's why I don't go against niggas I don't go against niggas bro I try my best to put my

my best foot forward bro I always do bro you know how much shit I can talk to you about right now bro and you're gonna say damn but these niggas I don't care to talk about that shit because we just move forward

I'm happy fuck I'm running around living my life why I think I'm happy I'm running around living my life bro I'm doing what I'm doing You got everything you want, but you ain't happy, bro, because a happy nigga don't even give, like, you're passionate about this shit you're talking about, bro, and you're so far removed from it and not to say a nigga's supposed to turn into something else. Like, bro, I'm out the game, no scrape, no scars, but I'm still banked, but I'm something else.

Yeah, but you got to think with. You can't even entertain it, bro. Niggas can't even send me certain shit on Instagram. I don't entertain certain shit. I don't care about this shit. I ain't never been. This is the smallest I ever been in the world, bro, to, like, me being a real nigga, bro. I don't do nothing of that shit.

I'm a little bit. I'm a real man, bro. I'm playing. But you get what I'm saying, though, right? Of course. This is my first time ever even going through shit like this. I'm telling you, bro. I don't deal with this type of shit.

I'm glad you're speaking on it, though. Yeah. Like, it's always five sides to the story, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to see no nigga crash, bro. I ain't even to do nothing. It looks like crash. That's the course, though.

I got, no, it ain't. You looking like it? It looked like it, but. Not for you. I'm just saying for the whole thing. You can't say who's going to crash. That's what I'm saying. Crashing going to have to be a nigger

wanting to do some of me. I'm not, listen, I don't respect certain shit that niggas do, but I respect life and I respect the air that we breathe, earth.

I respect everything that we got. My son live with me. Man, I take my son to school every morning, bro. I ain't nothing being that. My son's going to school in a double law every day. No, nothing beat that,

bro. My son, a real motherfucker's scientist a genius, smart as a motherfucker, bro. Don't, nothing beat that. All my kids are with me the whole summer. It's one of my kids. All my kids are with me the whole summer.

Running around doing family shit. We got houses everywhere we go. I'm telling you, I'm going to be, bro, they're the first time ever even, like, understanding what's going on in the world, like, real life. I was just so happy and just so blind

to, like, betrayal and niggas doing whole shit that I would never do. I'm just never. I'm getting to that point in my life, bro. I'm telling you, but you gotta understand why it's, like, hard for me to just go forward and just, like, attract the masses

up by doing some shit. Hard and impossibly the two different things, though. I know that. It was hard for you to get them becoming a million now, but they weren't impossible. That's a fact. So hard and impossible, two different things. You can do it.

Like, that's what I'm saying, like, how do a nigga, a nigga first step, a nigga, like, bro, and they ain't kind of trying to be no therapist or that, But I said, digger, first step, and he got to acknowledge what he's really going through. I had to do, bro.

I had to acknowledge, like, damn, bang, everybody ain't going to think how you think. You cut different. I had to tell myself that every person is cut different. That's why we got different fingerprint, different goddamn,

when they identify you. It's fine. Dental. We all got different shit, brother, to be identified, so we ain't going to think of life. But you're taking, like you said early on, nigger, my mama raised us

to love, love, love, so I always trying to find people to love. Like, you had a whole bunch of niggas that never had loyalty for each other and trying to put them in one crew. How the hell are they going to be lawyers? Lawy to each other. That need to smote here, a nigga, but you love everybody. I ain't going to work.

Nick goes to jail and they're like, bro, you ain't even from over that fuck them, me. Am I right or wrong? You just said it in the first beginning? I'm like, I've always been looking for friends to love, looking for this person with love, look for this person's love. But, nigga, the hard is what get a name. niggas zipped up.

In the end, because, get what? Your reaction off of using your heart going to make you seem like a fuck-ne because you're speaking from your heart. I don't have been through that shit.

I'm going to say if that's what you're going through, but I don't been through that. Like, thinking, like, I'm so passionate about how I, what I stand on. Like, how y'all don't get it?

But some nigger don't get it. Now I don't get it, right? You saying, I don't get this line? You get it, bro. It's just. You got to, that's why I'm, Just like you got to understand like Bro, I did so much shit, bro

Just like I raid these nigga bro I raid these niggas to like honored life be men I raise a nigga to be a man bro Like I can't go for what you're saying Because I know I played a part in raising them And I ain't never did no whole shit to them None of these niggas will ever be able to get on your podcast And say I did

No but I still raised You still, nigga I was grown when you met me but you still raised me in certain ways. I'm telling you, certain ways I look up to you. And you ain't never got no money together. Nick, I raised some of these, nigger, and we got money together. That make it even deeper.

We stand on certain morals and principles, bro. When I speak on Unful Togana or Pluto or when, when I speak on him, before this situation, when I speak on him, guess what I say to them? Oh yeah, you know, Charlotte got a license. Shalda's sitting on that bunk right now for not telling it. We instilled that shit in each other. bro you bro how fuck is you gonna like just man to man how the hell can you go against the grain

and that's why i look at niggas like you because guess what i respect you because you don't you don't take nigger's size you don't do certain thing you tell us what's right and what's wrong because you're older street nigga you're o g you tell us what's right and what's wrong you tell us what's right and what's wrong. I live all these morals with niggas who who came in the game with me, bro. I teach all these,

all these niggas do suck and shit toward me, bro. Every one of these nigg, anybody you can name who we've been talking about in here. These niggas talk the holes about me, these nigh, do all type of shit. I still love them, nigga. I still just love y'all, y'all, y'all, fuck that, man.

That's just how he is when they call the girls. It's all right. I love him. That's just how he is. But I'm saying, a nigga is going to care. that shit forever, a nigga gonna try to hear. Like, that's all I'm saying.

Now, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying, how you feel. That's your perspective. We're on perspective. So you give me your perspective on how you feel and how you was ready to shit you stand on. But how do a nigga move forward? Because the nigga, you can see.

That shit, you can't, that shit. You just play with some hard ass shit, now. Why that shit ain't not? The fuck is a dicker thinking about it. Because I just don't got my twin, bro. I don't got my friends, bro. I just fucked up.

Right? I'm fucked up, bro. The nigga, who I be with everything. I don't got him no more. I'm a fucked up, bro. Damn. I'm fucked up, bro. I don't know.

I don't know what to do, bro. And I ain't looed no nigga to a tragic. I lost a nigga to betrayal, bro. You signing that one piece of paper, signing your initials on this one piece of paper could get me a life sentence, my nigga. Like, what did you? Come on, bro.

I get a light sent out of all this piece of paper you signed, bro. Just because you're trying to get home fast. Are you just trying to get to a hole? Are you just doing certain thing, bro? And you are already than I betrayed a nigga before, bro? A piece of paper, nigga, you're gonna let a piece of paper in all this shit?

Nick, we men, bro, we brought us, nigga. Ain't no nigga in their world making me go again gonna, no nigga, bro. Man. Nigga, what? Yeah, you been around me 10 years knowing you told on our other brother, you told on Duke.

Where you told on Duke, bro? When them niggas was shooting at you, LaWood, I helped you hide. You ain't had nothing to do with nann. You said, I helped you hide. I gave you money to put your family and your baby mama and their mom and sister to them in hotels and do this shit just to help you. I know you ain't had nothing to do with nothing that shit. The police know you ain't had nothing to do nothing that shit. But the niggas in the street didn't know, though.

It don't matter. It's up. It's a war at this point. At this point, it's a war. Hide your kids, hide your wife, nigger. Go to war. cause you been standing on that this whole beef started because of you

the whole shit started because of Louis Wooden damn fuck nigga why how the fuck you gonna tell nigga this shit started because of you damn the whole case bro this shit because of you my boy

the whole case cause of woody some suck of shit this nigga did to nut them some sucker shit we just being real niggas and your and standing behind you. Fuck that. You did some suck-ass shit,

but boy, this nigga, but I fought with you. Now you got Shannie Yack, me, Duke, and everybody else who got them

on our side. You got all of us, all of us going through shit because of your own action that you did on your own time. And you folded. You told.

You did the worst. I'd rather you tell the ops while I live than tell the police. Nigel, we go to prison forever. Nick, I'd rather die and go to prison. You've been

off. telling the ops where I'm at, bro. How I... What the fuck you mean, move forward, man? You want me just get out of jail like these pussy and just go forward and don't speak on shit? Just go forward and live my life.

Just, woo-do-do-do-doo. Yeah, I got blessed. They let me out of jail. Woo-da-woo-woo-do-woo. I can't... I don't know, bank. He's in there two years. It's supposed to be healing, bro.

You in that talking shit. How the fuck I'm going to hear in the midst of the fire? How I'm a hill in fire? Damn. So basically what you're saying, you were trying to block out a lot of shit. You suppress that what they call it. They're trying to go forward. She is still trying to be young thug at the same time, trying to hold up an image, basically.

Being a real nigga, I ain't holding no no image. No, I'm just saying image. This she ain't real life. I'm saying that you ain't hurt though. Oh, the image I'm not being hurt for sure. I don't even, I ain't even know. That's an image because the nigger be hurt. Yeah, but I ain't never even woke up until right now talking to you and notice that I would hurt.

I ain't never even knew that. I just thought I was just running around, just living life. Like, for this shit, God just made me a happy person. I'm just happy. I think I'm happy. That's why I just told you earlier when you said, why you ain't just doing what you poe to do when you got out of jail? What I know you to do, bro.

Why you ain't just being Michael Jackson? I don't, nigga, I thought I was. I thought I was happy hell. I'm just chilling. I still just wake up some days and get in my feelings about certain shit. Because I feel like, Garner, you're my brother. I love you to deal, nigga. Why you ain't gave me an explanation?

You're not getting in touch with me, nigga. my dad to put me in your group text I don't even want you to have my number my dad to put us in a group text I call my men's like hey who'd have a number this here he got damn made some phone call

he'd come back that's gunning them I tell my dad man what the fuck would you put me on text with that knicker fuck what the fuck you got going on because he's known too

like a nigga just hurt brother I think I think god damn but guess what gonna then take advantage of that I wouldn't even probably care of the hit the shit

Anyway, because I feel like once you break a rule from your manhood, once you rat or once you turn gay and I don't got nitty against gay people. It's gay people that work for me. But when I look at you a certain way, if I look at you, if I meet you and you gay, it's like, okay, if I meet you and you portraying that you a man and you're not gay, I don't got nothing against gay people. You know what I'm saying? If I put, if you portraying a certain thing, you deceive them. Right.

I can't look at you the same I ain't mad that you can for being gay so wet everybody whoever gay they gay so wet nigga I don't got no problem with gay people gay people work for me right now I'm damn there around gay people every day because they work for me

I don't got no problem with them I don't even I hate that I even don't want you to take it out but I hate I even brung it up because I don't even want the the LGTP I don't even want that community to even think that I'm against them

I'm overly with y'all for You're saying DL bro that's what you speaking on Like if I look at you like a man And we fucking bitches together, girls together, and we're doing certain shit, and I look at you in a man like, like, well, that nigga, and then I find out

you gay, it ain't really nothing you can say to me. Yeah. I'm gonna just look at you like, you broke a man cold. You broke a code that men with backbones stand up to. You broke that code. You can talk, you can say whatever you want to say. You broke a man cold. I don't look at you the same.

But in real life, I don't even want to hear what you got to say, but you're still supposed to be a real nigga to say, I'm fin of said. I don't get a fuck. he want to hear or not. I'm going to say it to make sure he know. And that's why I'm doing his interview. He might not be one of any one of, I'm just speaking, stir it apart.

That ain't staring the pot. Tell him, getting on the internet and saying how you feel about betraying your brother? How the fuck is that staring apart? How? You ain't getting on the internet saying, oh, this nigga did, this, this nigga did, this nigga did, do who, and bring the other, you ain't doing all that. You get on the internet and saying, even if you ain't on the internet, my dad has put us in text message.

So you can't even get, do no interview in the future. in the near future you can't do no interview and say i ain't got his number i ain't got in touch with him you overly got my number overly that that just further my conspiracy you saying even after all the shit you've been taking it you're still supposed to submit because you know you're wrong it ain't about submitting it's about speaking your piece did what it is bro yeah so basically i don't like bro imagine nigger bro we fight to say why sell is not a game me and bank Befriend, they're my man's.

We don't made all the millions in the world. Together, I gave you the meddies. We didn't make them together. I gave them to you. You get on and you take a plea and say Dutte is a game and it must end. Just be a man.

You don't think that you owe an explanation. No matter what Thor is saying. Thore can say bank a rat all day. Bank a rat. He's a motherfucking rat. Nick, I can say that all day. And you can't say.

saying about that because you did but that's going to stop you from giving me an explanation as a man so maybe he need to get in touch with his feelings as a man bro you post a te you post a bro this what i did did what i was thinking if you're rocking with it rock if you're not fuck it how can you just get how can you just do what you did to me and then just go live your life like ain't nothing happened like how can you do it bro i can't do that I feel like I ain't do nothing in the world wrong in my interrogation And I still can't just go by living my life

Without addressing it I still got to address it Because you know it wrong for you being in there now As a man I got to explain this to the niggas that I love That look at me like a gangster That look at me like a man Yeah

It's niggas in this world That's gonna be like boy The fuck is you doing Yeah Practice what you preach Yeah That's why I'm speaking on it Because I'm a man

And I got real feelings And I care And I'm gonna make it right How the fuck I'm gonna just go forward how that mean to me you never felt the way i felt about you about me you never did yeah i die before i go again that nigga nigga even to the day still i die for i go against him the only thing i'm ever say you're a rat you're a rat bro you're a fault nigga you did what wrong you betrayed me man being a part of his demise or anything like that i'm never doing

that nigga nigger mama they nigger mama like my mama nigger nina i bought his mom my first piece of jury obviously he presented it like he bought it i did that she probably never know that we can talk about that shit all night and i tell you i'm gonna just bring it back to bro the shit got you fucked up you said that right and you agree right we just unlocked it right

how do you heal bro how do you how do you move forward period no bank i ain't that's why i'm talking a niggas like you right why i talk o g you gotta put me down i don't know you gotta put me Somebody tell me what I can do, like, bro, I'm just, I'm just telling you made with the stick.

I'm telling you my, I was a girl, how you healed in? I hear, I healed it like that with soap and water. Soaping one ain't going to hear this shit, right? Yeah. Guess what? You more in touch with your feelings

because you're an older man. You're more in touch with how life is. You don't been my age before. I ain't been your age. That's it. So you could tell me if you know. Tell me ways I can hear. I don't know.

I'm telling you my. perspective, I'm telling you why I'm fucked up. I'm telling you why I can't go forward. Why I, not why I can't go forward. I'm telling you why I haven't went forward. First step is knowing, what you just said. First step is knowing. I ain't never know till today, bro.

That's what I'm saying. First step of the next to the damn. Knowing that you know, Goddamn, I don't know. You just got a, man. You got it. Whatever, man. Everybody, man, niggas just got to move forward with their life, man. Make sure this shit don't turn it to nana.

That's all I'm saying. Whoever on the internet talking to the internet, And you're gonna, I feel like y'all needs to have a conversation. That's how I feel. So have you ever been portrayed by one of your friends? Yes. So bad to what you can't talk to him no more? Don't lie.

Yes. But I still, if a nigger, if a nigger, if a nigger, if a nigger, if I see a nigger mama or something, tell my brother, I say I love him. Because I do. I understand it. I can't turn my heart off. That's a nut. I ain't finished saying anything about you. infant in them because I already know

where they're going to lead to. We keep going back and forth and that she's going to lead to something else. That's another thing on respect. A nigga ain't contact my mama. When you did what's wrong in that courtroom, you ain't get out of jail and rent to my mama immediately. You ran to your mama who I take care of. You ain't ran to my mama who you ain't never did

nothing in the world for nothing. You ain't pull up on my mom and say, hey, I know bro going through some shit here. Bro, help me, bro sent money to help me pay for my lawyer. Wham sent them money and all that. That's why Wham hurt. Like, dee niggas, they talked to Wham. I ain't talked to them.

The nigger, hell, hell, hell, no. Nigger, what? Never. Don't never do that. But if y'all ain't get 100 years on that bunk, we're gonna take care of your mom and your family forever. And, nigger, no, Wham, mean what he's saying? He's standing on his business, home, a real one.

D' niggas hell conversations with Wham. And Wham told he, nigga, what? No, sir. No, you can't do that. Nigger, what? That's the worst. No. Nick ain't pull up on my mama, bro.

I didn't talk, hell conversation with my mama and got what my mama said Man, fuck these nigga, these nigga, because she's an old lady so she don't even care about no nigga ran than doing all that. She's an old-ha lady. My mama get on the phone and she say, shit, like, man, them didn't get up on me.

Ain't nothing to them didn't get me came to see me. Guess what? Wham, I'm not pulled up gave my mama bags, dunchos. Pluto that gave my mama dunchos. Cash, X-O-cash. I pulled up several times gave my mama duncho. That nigga probably ain't gave my mama,

three, four hundred thousand, boy. Like, Gaffles, 50, 60. Honda, 120. Whatever he had on him. He'll just pull up on my mama, just hug and kiss him. And whatever he got on, he just gave it to him.

It might be 36,000. Here, my own do. Bro, you ain't need to put up on my mama. And that's why I say, you're not a man because you ain't even never told your mama all this shit. I didn't did for her. Your mama think you the real nigga.

Your mama think you taking care of her. You never even told your mama, man, Sline did this shit. Because guess what? You're not a man to me. You live in your life. According to your rap career. The only regret I have is ever in my life messing with them, me, ever.

I'm supposed to have better judgment with who I take with me, bro. But he ain't a fucking, nigga, whole shit up, but I can't function. But I'm telling you, bro, I'm fucked up, bro. Like, ain't anything about anything of this interrogation. That shit, that shit, that shit, petty shit. I ain't never tripping on that. When I got on the phone with you the other day, what I said, hey, bro, I did what wrong? And you said, me, he didn't do nothing wrong.

The only thing you did wrong was even talking to them. before sending somebody to jail or telling on somebody you ain't do none of that because that's what I care about. I care about that. I'm a man. I honor knickers who I love.

I respect. I honor that. I honor that. Nick, you ain't even told your mama and your daddy and your brother that I was the one who helped you do all the shit for them you did. Not saying you wanted to do it

but you wasn't able to do it at the moment you needed to be done. I did it. You ain't never tell them that. I fought a weekend. I look at that nigga like a big bro. To a certain extent. We ain't never just like hung out

hung out like that, but I fought with cash. Cash my brother. This, nigga, part of my management team. Sal, a part of my management team. I paid money for your album to go number one. You ain't, you're not big in no fucking weekend, nigga. I paid money for your album to go number one. The thing I don't respect about help is she ain't tell you that.

She's on the phone with you in jail saying, man, take your plea, go on. Fuck these, nigger. Ain't none of y'all real. Ain't none of y'all going to just say damn. You can't say that, she said. Who? You can't, you can't just say. He said, he told some of our friends that

Elle was part of the reason he took his plea. Ed was like, man, shit, bro. You got to focus on your career. You got to, I'm telling him. And she said he was saying it. She was saying it to the degree of like, she was on, she knows she's not to play the game. You know, she came up on the Pluto.

She knew how to play the game. But she was telling him like, shit. If you want to help slime, you need to get out. So you can help sign her. What made me know that that was some cap is, when you got out of jail you didn't help slime at all when you got out of jail you didn't help slime at all Savage sent money to thug

Wham sent money to thud, Pluto sent money to thud Cad sent money to thud, Drake sent him crazy bank roll to thug Gunn't then send no bank row to thud mama gonna then pull up on thud family gunn't pull up on dolly, gunn't pull up on nobody that has nothing to do with thug so it's no way possible

you think that Elle was serious when she said you got to get out so you can help thug. Man, you ain't get out and do nothing to help me at all. You do an interview and say, I'm providing. How? What the fuck you're providing it? What's you talking about? Why you ain't put up on my mom and gave him nothing?

I'm so solid, right? That nigga signed to me right now. I'm so solid. I still ain't never took a dollar from him right now, and he signed to me. Ever. I still ain't took a dollar. Like, I still ain't collected.

and none of my money that he owed me right now to their day. Never, still, that's him. Never. Man, that shit might be goddamn floating in the wind somewhere. I ain't even stunning looking for it. I feel like that's not godly. That's not a godly gift. I feel like the devil get gifts too.

I feel like that. That ain't a God gift. That ain't a gift of God that want me there. I don't want that shit. Fuck. I rather die. And then the lawyers figured that shit out. Oh, this.

He made either $3,4 million. off a gunner music get this shit to the kid I'm fuck that I ain't even bro I'm so fucked up about that shit right I'm so much

of a real nigga I still can't even be no fuck nigga I still can't even go that ain't even been the fuck nigga I can't even

be a business man with the nigga after he did what he did I still ain't never did talk you really want to

forget though no I don't no I don't I wish he did something lighter so I could forgive him

fuck I don't hell out by the crying. Many nights about this shit. This shit ain't about no way on Pluto. Savage man. Fuck every one of them. When they come down to how I feel in real life. Not saying fuck them on no bullshit.

When it come down to me making a man, because I'm, I didn't raise these niggas to a certain extent. You think I care about what they feel? I can't hell now. I'm a man. No. What he did, I would never do. That piece of paper you saw I could have sent me the prison for the rest of my life.

We're going to take in that plea. Was it harmful to me? Yes, 100%. Oh, you out? Because, just because God. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it was harmful. But the way my lawyer and the rest of the niggas that stayed a part of the case,

the way we, our lawyers, worded it because you got to think, we're going in the trial saying that why I sell is not a game. Now, you got gonna and the rest of these seven niggas take a plea and say why sell is a game. except dude. Everybody else who took a plea said why sell is a game. Now my lawyer, now we're having to meet

all the lawyers having the roundtable me, now all the lawyers saying, why sale ain't no game? These are the points we're going to. This is what we're going to. Why said it's not a game. This is what we're going to.

All lawyers are aligned. 100% all they are. This is what we're doing. Hold on. Break. Now this nigga take a plea and say it is game. Now they're seven niggas take a plea

and say it is game. Now they're going back into the drawing board. Now the lawyer is going to the drawing boy. Now the lawyer is going to the drawing boy. Well, now we're, talking to the jurors, first we're telling the jurors why I sell out of the game. Now we're going back to the jurors say, well, some people

might say it's a game, but we ain't a part of that part of it. We are part of the record label part. Hold on, so let me ask you something. One more thing about it. So did y'all seeded on a plea before he took it, before we knew? Did y'all know? The lawyers did.

They didn't tell y'all? My lawyer told me I'm saying like My lawyer said I think Sergio Kitschis is going to take a plea today I said you think so He said yes So he didn't get a chance

To get his lawyer and be like Hey man no no no man Let's stay on track Of course we did all that His lawyer My lawyer was the head huncho of the lawyers He's telling everything that happened In that trial came from Brian everything

He told every lawyer what to do What to get up there and stay Max Schart is top tier Brian told that nigga everything to say To help Shannon Everything Nicky them niggas talk to each other every day Obviously

Max Schart, a mastermind And he know how to protect Nicker him and Brian in the same office Brian gave that nigga Rooms in his office Brian on his whole building This office space He got 10 15 rooms

Man Max Schart 5 of these rooms Oh hell Like But these niggas These nigga in a huddle Three years straight nigga Everybody on one accord Until that happened

when he took the plea The niggas who got off the case Was out of the huddle All the rest of the lawyers Who still was on the case Was he still in the huddle But we had to change the plan Hey we're gonna run to the right

Now we got to change the plan Hey we're gonna run to the left And we're gonna say shit Some people did run to the right But we ran to the left Cause it was open We got to think Do it hurt the case, nigga

You got a juror sending They bet saying We don't know none of these niggas We know yon thug and gonna Every juror We know these two people These are superstars rest of these niggas is nothing we know these niggins these is the head huncho this

what the state's saying the state don't even got to say it we're the two richest niggins on the case the jurors gonna think that anyway the state don't even got to say it they would have been built off not even paying that narrative because the jurors are already thinking that they was painting the narrative so bad to the point where it made the jurors like man now you just talk it might not be like that it might not be like that you bet off not even speaking on that and just letting the jurors just come up with that, they're going to come up with their themselves anyway. If I'm looking at 26 niggas in the room, 28 niggas in the room, and two of these nigger millionaires, okay, they're the two bosses. That's what I'm thinking anyway.

But when you take your plea, now it's like we go from Wyself not being a gang to where my, YSail is a gang to certain people, but not to Mr. Williams. Mr. Williams is all about music. What you mean did it hurt the case? I heard somebody to do an interview and they asked one of the lawyers, Mr. Weinstein. goddamn salute to him I love him they asked Mr. Weinstein they're gonna hurt the case

and he was just speaking from what happened after the pleas we was in this courtroom tan any nigga ass tan any motherfuckus the state ass apart they couldn't be that in no weight shape of form no way they wouldn't be in us

so that's why we say what they wouldn't the niggas taking the plea didn't harm the case we're saying that overall it ended up not harming the case but right at that moment when you take the plea yes that harms the case nika we're saying that it's not a game

you taking the plea as the second man in charge you taking the plea as the second man in charge and you said it did harm the case I mean and you're saying that it is a game that harms the case why would an interviewer why would anybody doing the interview even ask that question did it harm the case

what the fuck you mean yes I guess the niggas the question should be did it harm the outcome it ended up not harming the case because of

the mastermining of the rest of the lawyers as the court case as the trial went on so basically in your mind you feel like this nigga got out of jail feeling like man

that nigga he's gone overly I feel like all of them took a plea in the beginning because they thought we were gone they thought what the hell what the other reason here

you went from a real nigger a stepper a real a live street, nigga, respected street, nigga, to a rat. Because you thinking somebody on the world.

It's a little damn, man. All right, twin, I'm going to hit your back. I love you, bro. I'm doing the interview. He just, he didn't even know anything about anything. He's just speaking like, we're just talking man to man. That's why I asked you questions like,

man to man. I understand the light and the political, I understand the political shit around everything, but just man, the man, man, brother to brother, big homie to a little homie. If you go into jail and you plea out before the trial even start, what the fuck are you thinking? Boy, this shit, oh, would. Man, you don't remember them Zoom calls that was all over there, and that?

The Zoom calls when we was going to court them first few times on Zoom, before we made it to the courtroom. We was on Zoom when we was going for buns and shit. Man, you remember me asking that nigga on the Zoom, we only pulled a talk. I broke the law. I'm on the Zoom. I said, Gunna. you look at me on the Zoom I say you good

cheering up nigga you good he said yeah I got some shit I forgot what he said but he just the energy was that down

not even on no bullshit no fun of shit like the energy with that down so it just automatically make me start thinking like

little brother you good I'm not saying that you know at that point I'm just like nigga what you're going through you good

and that's why because I'm a big brother to you knick so that's why I do shit like head up when we don't need calls. When we in this courtroom, man, head up, chin up. Fuck that, nigga.

If we go to prison for the rest of our life, what do they do? We go to prison, nigga. And we fight to get out this bitch. And we beat these folks. What'd they do? We beat them. We go forward. That's that high go.

But can the nigga feel like shit? Well, it was still a nigga left on the case and you took your plea. Yeah, but my plea didn't say it. My plea couldn't harm nobody. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. My plea, I ain't say why I sell with no gain in my plea. I ain't say nothing in my plea.

That's why I didn't do the plea. The state offered me a plea, and they wanted me to say why I sell was a game. I'm the owner of YSel, the game, and Wysel must end in the state's plea. They say all this in their plea. I told them, I'm not doing that. So they wanted me to tell about Nutt getting killed. I don't know anything about that. They want to tell me, they want me to tell about Shamel drinks, the other niggins from their side again killed.

Three, four more niggas from their side getting killed. even, they were to my niggas who got killed from their side that weren't even involved in the case. They just wanted me to tell on that. Like, you're going to tell on all this shit. We know you know about all this shit. I'm telling them, I swear to God. I'm my freedom.

I don't know about none of this shit. Nigga, I'm in the clouds. I really don't know about this shit. Guess what that state ended up saying? We're going back and forth. We, we, week, week, week, week, week, week. Just talking about the plea, the agreement, the plea agreement, weeks and weeks.

We never can come to agreement. Guess what the DA say? Funny Will it say, well, you don't got to speak on none of this shit. You don't got to tell. on nobody getting killed. You don't got to tell me what none of that. I take all this shit out of the plea. But you must say YSel is a game

and you're the owner of YSL. Man, I'm not doing it. Beat it. I'm a man, nigga Y, Y, sell, not a game to me. Beat it. I don't give a full. No freedom in the world can make me do that. No.

Guess what Brian say? Shit, they ain't going to do the plea. Fuck it. Let's go on the final trial. Say less. The next day he called me with a plan. He said, you ever heard of a goddamn non-negotiated plea? I'm like, no, what's that?

He's like, well, you don't. don't got to deal with the deal. You deal directly with the judge. That mean, you get up in the front of the judge and you say, you guilty of these crimes. I say, I'm not guilty of that. I'm not in the game. I'm not guilty of that. I'm not guilty of or why I said up in the game, the Rico. I'm not getting into that, Brian. So I want to get up in the courtroom and say I'm guilty of that. That's not true. I don't want to get out of jail that bad, right? That's not true. Let's go on and let's finish this trial. And he he, he ain't want to do the plea anyway. Brian, like, man, we're going to beat the shleys all

that. I'm just telling you, you can't get convicted of this because it was in your house. So that's why when we did a non-negotiated plea, Brian, when we were talking to to the judge, Brian was talking about the charge that I had. Brown, like, hey, we plead none, no law to this charge. We plead not get to this charge. We plead not get to this charge. We plead not to these charges. We'll plead to give it to these charges because these are the drug, these are this, this shit that they found in his house. I'm on probation for the shit they found in my house. The day we went to jail. I'm not on probation for nothing that the, that the, that the DA was trying to say I was guilty of. I'm only on probation for what they found.

in my house. That's first of all in my plea. My plea was none negotiated. I went straight to the judge. Hey, Your Honor, I'm guilty of these crimes. I'm a guilty of having these controlled substance in my house. I'm guilty of having any pills in my house. I'm guilty of having this weed in my house. I'm guilty of having these guns in my house. I'm guilty of my house. That's what I'm guilty of. Rico, being in a violent criminal street gang, why I say all that shit, I'm not guilty of none of that. I ain't doing that. Guess what the judge said? I agree. I'm going to find you guilty of this shit that I found your house. So my plea was

a plea that I was going to end up with anyway. Because if I would have beat the case, I still would have got found guilty of the shit that they found in my house. You think you got more time? You think you got some jail time if you went like went all the way through it? No, because she ended up, because, yeah, I mean, Shannon had got found guilty

of one of his charges. They're having a firearm as a convicted felon. So he pulled him in the jail 10 years for that. Off top, 10 years. And it was a switch. 10 years off top. He got acquitted for everything else. all the murders and she, he got acquitted. But he got found guilty for that one charge

because they got to find him guilty. Even if the jurors won't, even if the jurors want to say that he innocent, they can't. So Shannon kept aside it all the way out too? Yeah. That's just the law. But when he got found,

when they say you're acquitted for everything, but you guilty of this gun charge, we are, we in our mind thinking like, damn, they even go to prison for the gun. Get what the judge say. You've been through enough. I'm let you out. So I feel like now, if I would have stayed in the trial,

I would have got found guilty of the shit that they found in my house because it ain't no law that tell the jurors they can get around it it. It ain't no way to get around it. So the juror's like, fuck. There ain't nobody claiming in this shit.

Like, fuck, we got to find them guilty for this. It's no way around it. Even if they want to, you see what I'm saying? They can't let me off the hook for it. I got to get found guilty of that. So why the fuck when I not take a plea and get out of jail today or some shit I know nine times out of ten

I'm going to get found guilty for anyway. At the end of the trial, I would have found guilty for the shit in my house. I would have got found guilty of the shit in my house. for the shit in my house and she didn't send Shannon to prison so she probably wanted to send me to prison

she probably would have said the same thing like I'm gonna give you probation for this shit in your house and gone on leave your life cool I still would the same shit I'm on probation for now I still would have been on probation for in the end of this at the end of the trial because

it was no loops for the jurors to find me innocent to find me innocent for that 100% you can found gifts for that they can't find you they can say you ain't guilty of it but it's like them not being real

It's like the jurors just not being real Like, well, it ain't nowhere around this shit This nigger ass It's guilty of this It ain't nothing around it No law that That makes me overstep that He guilty

So what's your temperature with Lutja right now? I ain't no temperature with him Man Bro, I pray that nigga Get everything he deserved Everything I told that nigga Even in the midst of hour beef

I told that nigga Brough I said some bullshit in the two but I was speaking really front of heart, real. Bro, I respect everything you do for your mom and your kids. I respect all that shit. If not, I would have been this on to your ass. That's what I tweeted.

I said, if I ain't respect what you did for your mom and your kids and how you look out of your family, I would have been this on to your ass. I'm just a real nigga. I respect how a nigga treat their family. But I respect it. He was an active dad in his family and his children's life. Still right now since he's been out,

I still be watching him now since he got out. He's still an active father. I respect that. Man, I don't want to know how I don't want to do that to you. But you're a real man to me. Why the fuck would I want to kill a nigga that I think is like me? You're a real man to me, bro. But leave me alone too, though.

Like, stop. Don't fuck me neither. Because if we, if it had to go a certain way, then we got to go a certain way. So, but that's what my way of trying to just tell niggas like, hey, bro, I ain't on that. I ain't on that, bro. I'm living life. I'm doing shit, bro.

I'm doing shit in this world for real, bro. Brough. And the nigga, he tweeted me a minute. a lot of you ain't that like two partners you're a rat i mean you're a goddamn punk you gay you draw you all dressed you did this you did that who woo woo he replied he tweeted me probably 20 times in a row every day just just jugging agony every day i tweeted him one time after he tweeted me 20 times i said nigger if i ain't respect what you did for your mom and your children and how you looked out for your family i would have been this on to your air if you

read that tweet from me what you'll say what you'll tell lucha man leave that nil along bro right yeah I say he trolled hell no that ain't trolling I said but I say he don't want him he don't want to do

none of you I say that right he trolled me he don't want to do than to you I ain't I really want to need

with that tweet yeah because me or him don't got nothing to do it in real life me and him don't got nothing to do

with none of the beefs on both sides me and him don't got nothing to do with it he just love nuts so much he just asserted

himself in the shit but I thought they were saying about a girl though Hell, no, all that shit was trolling. When he said he fucked my girl and all that shit, all that shit were trolling shit.

We were trolling. That's what a nigga's thinking like. Yeah, no, hell no. All this whole beef was behind. No, sir. This shit is behind nut. Woody broke in nut car and stole his jury. And I'm saying all this shit because it's all public record.

We already said all this shit, I understand. Him and the DA and I said this understand. He broke in nut car and stole nut jury. He didn't know what was nut car. He seen a peanut chain. He said, Oh shit, this nudge, this nigger Nutt chain. He called Nutt and said, hey, bro, bros,

D, he ain't put it on himself. He just said, man, some young nigga broke in your car. They brought on the jury to me. And Nutt, like, I brain the juror. I ain't, I ain't, I ain't tripping. I ain't, I ain't tripping. Nutt. Brane a jury to me.

Woo, whoa, whoa, whoa. He brined a jury to me. Get a jury to nut back. I mean, your nut, his jury back and got down. Gone on about their business. Nutt, I ain't tripping. Nut, like, shit, I got all my shit back. I ain't tripping.

but you got niggas who with nut who like man these fucking niggas that played let's take it down so the whole time me and nut on the phone every day trying to stop

meat nigger from beefing like man bro we ain't know that bro we don't bro nut getting money I'm getting money like I'm a nigga

nigga we were hanging out I turned nut on to a bird I brought a around bird because I know nut best friend the nigga who they call bird man from pink city

I know him from being nut friend I don't know I ain't never seen him I probably seen him too time in my life. But I know him and Nutt used to call themselves

Bird and Slim. So when I got on and I met Bird, get what I told Bird in Miami. Man, you got to meet the nigga from the city. They call themselves Bird and Slim.

You got to meet these niggins. Like, bro, I'm 100% the most genuine nigga you could think of, bro, I'm telling you. It's a real fact. I wish Nutt was living so he could say the same thing. I turn him on a bird.

The pictures when you see on a boat with Bird, I'm here. I took the picture. I got Nutt phone and took this picture. Man, take the picture with this nigga, but I know y'all look. I told Bird, man, Nut is supposed to be slim.

So you got to wait. The other nigga Bird who used to be with Nut, he was in prison still. He was in jail doing some time, doing the bed. So I told Birdman, like, man, you got to meet the nigga Birdman from Atlanta. Who called his cell Birdman? He'll borrowing any of the niggots tattoos in the head. He really think he bird. I'm like, he in prison right now, but you got to meet him too.

Like, I turned Bird on the Nut. I had Blood of Jay around Birdman trying to do deal. I turned Blood of Jay on the Rocco. I've been lit in this time. I made niggas lock in. Man, Blatter J. Them started off beefing about them saying

that boo was a rat. Boo told on the mo. We ain't never seen that paperwork. Seriously today. They typed us, you're right. They typed us on some paperwork one time and it was fake paperwork. The only reason why we knew the paperwork

were fake, because they misspelled words. Ain't the motherfucker DA officers misspilling the word, dumbass. They misspelled prosecution and all types of shit. You're saying they made some fake paperwork. nigga had some paperwork saying that Boo told on, on, on,

uh, Mo. Mo told me this. Boo told, Boo told. I seen Boo get on the phone with Moe, myself. I seen Boo on the phone with him. Myself witnessed it right now.

Boo said, man, these fault to my, you said, I told it on you, Mo. Yeah, Mo said, man, I ain't told no, nigga there. I ain't told nobody that. But I fought with you, Boo. Man, nigga, every time I see you, we dealt.

Like, hey, and I ain't talking about it that. I ain't say nothing about it. But, Mo, you told me your damn self that boo told on you. Man, these nigga egg. All this shit kept. I made these nigga on the phone. They got some paperwork, though. That shit kind of different.

See some papers. When you see paperwork. When you see paperwork, this paperwork. Yeah, yeah, this shit. Paper on your phone. Well, how they spell? I'm just saying that when a nigger see it? No.

Because you got to see it. Everybody made human mistakes, though. No, we got to know theater. Hell, no, niggis. Well, when a prosecutor type and all, you can get a new trial. trial for that. If they misspails and words in this paperwork, you can get a new trial.

What the fuck you mean? No folks ain't making no mistake like that. I promise you that. Look at our paperwork. I bet you whatever you think you want to bet. Ain't no misspelled word in that motherfucker. Nick, this is the real law. Any mistakes you can get a new trial.

Anything. Nigging them folks aren't making no fucking mistakes. Nick, you crazy. Especially on those certain words. They are prosecutors. Big bank is, it's motherfucking big facts. How the fuck I'm going to go? for some paperwork and big bank

spell big facts wrong. They go, what? How the hell the prosecutor going to spell prosecution wrong? What are you talking about? They're going to beat it. What are you talking about? And they had more than one misspelled word. They had like four, five misspelled word on the first piece.

On the first sheet. The state of Georgia versus this. That was wrong. That spelling was wrong. Like, man, y'all have made 15 got them misspelled word on the first piece of paper. Beat it, man. That's ain't real.

That shit, ain't real. But even if it is, God bled the dead. Boo dead. So what? Even if it is. Even when I figured out, because Moe told me himself that Boo told. So even when I seen Moe, when I heard Moe on the phone with Boo and Mo denied saying that to Boo, I ain't even tell Boo, Mo told me that. I ain't even tell Boo, man, he kept.

He told me you did. I ain't say nothing that. I'm just not no messing dick. I ain't doing it. When I heard Moe tell Boo to my face on the phone from jail, Boo said, what's up, my boy? What's going on, nigga, that boo? He's like, what's up, my boy? What's up, bit?

He's like, man, I'm trying to see what the hell going on these street, bro. You know, I fought with your game, brother. These niggas's my goddamn, you saying, I told it on you, bro. That nicks said, man, hell, no. Well, you know, I fought with your game. Every time we see each other, we got damn players. But, you know, I ain't said no shit like that. Man, I heard him say this.

I heard him say this. I had my own mouth. And I ain't trying to stir no shit up within their crew. Man, all the nigger, man, I respect all gangsters. All real niggas, all niggas, they do what they poe to do. I see Emotech hair family from jail. I respect the boy. I don't even been on the phone a few times.

Even throughout the beef, I don't have been on the phone with him. Hey, bro, man, I ain't got anything to do that shit. Keep that shit away from me. I'm trying to do what I need to do with this rap shit. But I made it out of Cleaning Avenue, nigga. I got six motherfucking kid. Now I'm doing what I'm doing. That's why I was fucking with a nigga like Blood of Jay.

Nigel like Olai player. I was fucking with them niggas. I was fucking with bit nut. I got five, six videos with Birdman, with nut in them. With greeting. Like, nigga, I shot Ain't no harm my blood

With Dage Loaf in their hood I shot that motherfucker In Pink City In their projects Where they hang at right now I shot that video there The video with me Birdman and goddamn Ralph

Look at the video We played it in court When Nutt Daddy got on the stand Because the DA That tricked him to lie about some shit When Nutt Daddy got understand And saying, yeah My son and Nutt and Thorup

Been goddamn feel like back in November or 2014 because he got killed 2015, January 10th, 2012. His dad would get on the stand listening to what the DA

telling him to say because they get to prep him before he get on the stand. He get on the stand and say without even knowing the truth and I get it. You're a dad that lost his son. Yeah, yeah.

I get it. That's why I ain't never say it fuck that nigga dad or never said fuck him that. I don't say none of that. I get it, nigga. Yeah, yeah.

A nigga and do whatever to get some justice for their son. They're my son. Any case, any niggie, they, their family got a right to feel, however they feel. I'm never going to get that. Never. You're right.

I understood that. That's real, yeah. When Nutt died, my house got bused. They typed up a fake search warrant and bused my house. They got my phones. They, they so fucked up. The judicial system so fucked up, they see me and Nutt text message in my phone. The day he died.

The day before he died. Where you at, Nuddy? Man, right-headed, right-haired to parthin. Go get me a half-cut, got-down. I see, I pull up on you later on. All right, say, left. Love, the day Woody got jumping on in the club, I text nothing. Man, what the hell going on, but I thought we said we squad that shit, bro.

I thought you, me and you got on the phone, like brothers, like men. He said, bro, we ain't, we're part of nothing that shit. We're telling them, nigg, stop that shit. We're telling them, nigga, let that shit go. But y'all, nigger, tripping. And she ain't about n'am. Like, y'all, y'all, really in spoke about nothing. I got text message talking to that.

Moments before he died. not same day they know it they just didn't say in that like obviously that's the state they trying to they're trying to do that case they're doing what they're po to do like i ain't even mad at them like you you you my opposition at this point you're trying to do what you do to the sentence me i'm trying to do what i'm doing to not get sentenced i ain't tripping but bro we got text messages of me and nut testing i don't know god damn way up me and they man were cool y'all know that what you want what's got i can't my flights man we do this shit i What you want to say to the city before we get out of it?

Listen, man. I tried my best. Put the mic. I tried my best to make this city one. Unity. I tried my best. Anybody from this city, including Rollo.

P. All y'all niggas. I don't got no smoke with y'all niggas. I don't want no gangster shit to go on with y'all nigger. I ain't got time. Like, we are, the street shit is already over with. Once you do a certain, once you tell you the street shit over it. Like, don't, you can't kick the street niggas shit.

And I ain't even saying that to bash no nigga. Like, why would I want some smoke with a nigger that I already done told on somebody that work, that, you know, work with the police? I'm just saying, just real nigger shit. But still, though, bro. Listen, I don't want no smoke with y'all, nigger. Even if y'all didn't tell. I'm just bigger and better than what we're doing. I'm bigger and better than this.

I don't want no smoke with no, nigga. I don't got no problem with y'all, nigger. Man, peace, love, and blessings. I hope everybody live their life and live. And rejoice. I hope everybody in this world prosper and get what they need to get. Everybody.

I don't got no hard feeling with no nigga. Even the niggas on this case. Even the niggas that I'm mad at. I'm forever mad at. I still don't want you to fail. Obviously, I don't have been in my feelings and I don't have been on jail calls and saying shit. Like, man, I'm going to drop the same day.

I want to do this. Fuck that. I'm out of jail. I beat this shit. I understand the chance God gave me. I understand the chance that the judge gave me. I understand all that. And now I'm sorry to my fans

and everybody that I love that I even took that for granted. But I hope now that you understand why I couldn't just go forward, why I took it for granted, if you think I took it for granted. I want you to understand through this conversation, why I feel how I feel. I'm going to tell you, after this, because you realize that you fucked up trauma to all this shit, all the shit that everybody that don't know

that we walk around with everybody's undiagnosed of mental illness, for real. If you're from the streets, you fucked up. I don't know who you. They ain't never a heartbreaking materials of this shit So you're saying basically You feel to move not I know it's gonna be hard to move forward For some of that shit

You're trying to try your best To heal and move forward From all the negative shit Absolutely Absolutely Because we gotta hold your account Like Shline you just said this man You're some bullshit bro

If a nigga don't Because it ain't just For the people For everybody else It's for you too Your family too whoever Like niggas You don't got like nine chances

Shit, we all don't got like 9-Chang. Nick, I'm been in and out of, in and out of shit. Could have been in this, could of this, could of that. And God, working on our city, man, we need to put the energy back in this shit. Well, niggas ain't got to be friends. We can't got to be shit. But like you just said, I don't want to see no harm to nobody. I ain't against no, nigga.

I ain't in your way. Don't get in my way. That's how I look at it. Because we're looking crazy right now. Absolutely. But I don't want niggas to make it like, I'm the forefront of us looking crazy. It's everybody.

It's a whole pot. I'm just letting you know. It's a whole pot. I'm just letting the people that's not from Atlanta no. Okay. The people that's the fans of everybody, Rallo fans, P fans, Wham fans, Pluto fan, my fans, Guna fans, Jack fans, Duke fans, everybody. I'm letting everybody that's not a part of Atlanta that don't know the inside scoop,

that don't know what's going on. You got to be the head. We just all ingredients. None of us shouldn't be no more ingredients. Everybody who on the motherfuckers. Anybody who want to come on these motherfucking talk, come on. But no ingredient. Don't be an ingredient, bro.

to the devil gumbo. Shit. I want everybody in this world will prosper. This is my honest God opinion. I want everybody in this world of prosper no matter what you did,

no matter what you did wrong because everybody didn't did wrong shit. Everybody done did bad shit. You know? Everybody didn't did something bad. Everybody didn't did something that wasn't God. When you're a streetnik

and you're a gangster, I don't give a damn figure coming down and you selling drugs. That's bad. You sold something out of drugs. They could die from that. Everybody didn't did bad shit. So I'm not really tripping.

I'm just telling you. you just a few of my opines like how I feel about certain shit and why I feel like your best question to me was why the hell you ain't do what you need to do when you got out because I understood the blessing that I got I understood the judge talking to me

and look at me fade to face saying nigger you're the one bro she gonna blame yeah you go back in the I'm already knowing but I ain't gonna give her no reason to you know what I'm saying I'm going forward with my life bro like I ain't tripping bro I just feel like at this point I just I ain't never spoke on it because I was just a man like I'm just

on the shit like man we're going to fuck that shit I'm a man y'all nicks are wrecked y'all nigga did what wrong I was just living in that dream but now just having a conversation with you and talking and just like feeling it like it's just feel like I got to just go on I got to move on but I just wanted

gonna you are gonna duke yeah you all my fans Rallow P Wham Pluto everybody wheezy I want cash everybody who I love who I honor I want all them to know this is my side This is how I feel. This is why I'm how I am. This is why I streamed so much on the niggas.

This is how I am. I feel betrayed. I feel hurt. I feel whatever you call it. I just feel it. Nah, this shit will be it, bro. I appreciate you for even calling me. Let me be a part of it, you know what I'm saying?

Witness a part of your pain and your journey and the way you, your perspective or shit, you know what I'm saying? I just hope you got damn allow us to be a part of your healing journey. For real. A nigga fucked up. he's got to get this shit right can you try my bed bro you think I should let people be

just witness the healing all that shit too what you mean that's good like like obviously I just spoke my pain and what I feel about my whole situation in my life to the world which it just took me a lot to do but I did it you think I should let people in on my healing process too

yeah yeah ain't no other way like shit because bro one thing about it bro I don't know you were locked up, bro. A partner passed away, bro. Like, it wouldn't work without other people got down, helping me and talking to me and pushing me through. That shit want to work, bro.

That's the worst shit I ever felt in my life. I was already on a transition side. Like, just anyway, just when y'all need to caught him case, I'm like, oh, they snatch your niggas ass up. That shit kind of did something to me. Like, I ain't trying to go sitting there motherfuck. Niggas is a bunch of niggily lying on me. So I just straight told God,

if I ain't, if I ain't, if they ain't got me for anything that I already did. I ain't doing that enough. And that's what I've been on there since. You know what I'm saying? And I don't take shit person. I'm like, I used to just like this, take it. Everything person.

I don't take that person. That's the first thing, bro. Get that book, bro. Four agreement, dog. Just listen to it on your phone. Whenever you, whenever you ride into the studio, like, four agreement, gonna show you, but you can't take shit personal.

Have you ever heard read the fifth agreement? No. Read the fifth one. You read the four already too? Yeah. Okay, but she, you got, that motherfucker's the truth, bro. Oh, definitely.

No, but you got to allow people, though. God damn. Be a part of it. See the Grove and be a part of it because you allow to see all the other shit. That's a fact. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you.

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