The Breakfast Club - R&B Money: Chris Brown

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... R&B Money! On the monumental 100th episode of The R&B Money Podcast, Tank and J Valentine are joined by a true luminary and visionary in the world of entertainment - the legendary singer, songwriter, performer, actor, businessman, and director Chris Brown. As a special guest and beloved member of the R&B Money family, Chris brings his unparalleled talent, creativity, and insights to this landmark celebration. In this triumphant and heartfelt conversation, Chris opens up about his incredible journey, sharing stories from his early days as a young prodigy to becoming one of the most influential artists of his generation. Tank and J Valentine dive deep into Chris's artistry, exploring the passion, dedication, and innovation that have made him a global icon. From his chart-topping hits to his electrifying performances, Chris Brown has consistently pushed the boundaries of R&B and pop music. In this episode, he reflects on the challenges he's faced, the lessons he's learned, and the unwavering support of his fans, who have been with him every step of the way. So Right Now, Join Tank, J Valentine, and the inimitable Chris Brown for an unforgettable 100th episode of The R&B Money Podcast. Get ready to be inspired, entertained, and moved by the story of a true icon who continues to shape the future of music with his boundless talent and unwavering dedication to his art.   Extended Episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/RnBMoneyPodcast Follow The Podcast: Tank: @therealtank   J Valentine: @JValentine Podcast: @RnbMoneyPodcast  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

R&B Money! We are Tank, Jake Valentine. We are the authorities on all things R&B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. I'm Jake Valentine. And this... Tell them what it is. Oh, shit!

Yeah, motherfucker. The R&B Money Podcast. Hold on, hold on Oh, shit! Yeah, motherfuckers. The R&B Money Podcast. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, motherfuckers! Go ahead. The authority on all things... All motherfucking things. R&B.

Yeah. I'm not going to do a long intro. You know why? Why? Because the people have been asking. Not asking. For two interviews, demanding. They've wanted two interviews.

They've been threatening us. Two interviews. Yeah. One with Jesus. asking for two interview demanding they wanted two interviews they've been damn near threatening two interviews yeah one was jesus and the other was chris brown yo yo yo shit shit i'm gonna put the disclaimer out right now y'all can't fuck with us go ahead um i remember i remember i remember walking into the studio on your second album and you're saying big bro i got something i want you to get on i'm like oh okay cool you know come up there you know probably gonna help you right help you help you really put the shit together you know i'm saying because that's what i going to help you write, help you really put the shit together. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what I do. I help you put your shit together.

You know what I'm saying? I'm a high-level producer, writer, and singer. You probably need me. I'm on the way. And I get in there, and you play this song called Take My Time. And you say, yeah, big bro, I kind of modeled of modeled it off after sex love and pain and it's already good oh you just you just sing your verse right this your verse and i was like so he doesn't need he doesn't need me

and bro it was like the craziest i'd never seen a learning curve that small to where first album it was like people were giving you things yeah i had to learn that was like school and by your second album you had already figured it out yeah and it was scary to see i was like where's he going to be? And now, to many years later, now it's just records being broken. Now you're just breaking your own records. Yeah. Trying to set the Guinness World Records. Bro, and it's not even close.

You know what I'm saying? We like to start at the beginning. I just had to start there because when I felt like I wasn't needed anymore musically, I just kind of was sad. But I called him. I was like, big bro, get on the record. I didn't feel the record at that time. It would be like me stealing a record from you.

You know what I'm saying? If I didn't involve you in the record, because I was inspired by your song to do the song. So I was like, nah, get on the record with me, bro. And I can talk a little bit more adult now on the song because I'm older. Before, I had to learn and be like, oh, I can't say that. I can't say this. And then by the time, even working with you, from Kerry Hilson, Adonis, working with all these different writers, Dre and Vidal, all of them, back in the day, I was 15, 14 doing

that album my first album man that's that was like learning so like i said i was in school like yeah okay this is how you do it this is how you make a song there's a verse a pre-chorus and then i didn't know none of that so you learned that over a summer bro man that's what it felt like that's what it felt like it felt like that absolutely it took me to the place of being where where i was the teacher it took me to a place of being where I was the teacher. It took me to a place of then reverting back to a student. Damn. Like watching him work like that.

And I'm like, okay, he different. I got to see how you're doing. And I don't know if we've ever told you this, but we've literally worked with you, got in the car, and then implemented some of the shit you do. Period. No, no. That's fine. No bullshit, bro. That's fine. You may look at us like, oh, them is the do. Period. No, no. That's fine. No bullshit, bro. That's fine.

You may look at us like, oh, them is the big bros. No, nigga. We've literally worked with you and been like, nigga, did you watch Ahi? And then he did his vocal this way. Oh, yeah. No, we paying attention. Yeah. That's sporadic how we record.

Like, I learned. Remember how everybody used to have to record? Like, we used to have to punch. It was really no punching. You had to sing that whole verse. Yeah, right so Once technology got faster I was like we can still do the same amount of effort as far you remember how I do my stacks So how it's it's it's faster to me because it's like in in section

I'm on and I can just put them all together and it looks like a painting So that's what I was kind of learning. So if y'all implemented certain shit, I'm like, damn, y'all was looking at what I was doing. I'm stealing. Absolutely. You kidding me? I used the big word. You used the great word.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Nigga, I'm stealing. I'm stealing. Nigga, I'm at the house like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, how do we get that? How do we get that? Yeah, yeah.

I ain't going to do the dance move to go with it. Slow it down a little bit. Like, ain't make it do that. He's here now. Chris is here. So Chris Brown, that's Nigga Brown. Just so you know. Yeah.

That's Nigga Brown over there. And he always mentions you when he mentions his dance moves for some odd reason. Because you have to understand, I'm the older version of Chris Brown. Since Genuine won't do the dances, you know what I'm saying? I tell the nigga, first of all, come on. Do the fucking pony dance. He won't do the fucking pony dance.

So it upsets me. I ain't doing it right now. So now I gotta pick up the mantle. I gotta go back to my freaky days. You know what I'm saying? Video. I'm doing somersaults. I'm blowing up fucking mantle. I got to go back to my freaky days. You know what I'm saying? Video. I'm doing somersaults. You know what I'm saying? I'm blowing up fucking buildings. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got to go back to those days. Let's just show people I'm really that.

Yeah. So what are you telling us? He was you before you. No, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, don't think I ain't got feet. We all got feet. I got feet. They don't all work the same, no. Brown, let's go. It might be too lefty, but it's feet, nigga. No, no, no.

It's the left. Let's go to the beginning. Let's go to the beginning. Of when, when did somebody identify that you had something special? Or when did you? I mean, as you know, I think I was probably about nine when I was like, okay, I actually can sing. I was in the choir. And I was like, cool, they gave me the leads.

And I was like, I'm seeing people like, yeah, baby, when I'm singing. In church. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I really sound good to these people. Because, you know, your family members is always going to hate, man, shut up. You don't sound like. So I really took it serious like nine or ten. And then my mom was we were in uh

tapper henning and i was like look i met these people we just got to drive like an hour and a half away like wait you met the people yeah i met him i met the people through through through like one guy i met him through like three different people so i i maintained a close relationship with a guy that was around my age and we and we always did music but he would he would always dance so he'll take me to like the radio shows like look let's go up to the radio station while they doing like they knew artist stuff let's let's see if we can slide in there and we just play our stuff and we just dance so i hung with him and then he got noticed by like troy taylor's people and a group of different different uh like guys that they knew around the virginia area

so from there we started working and then i met the people I met in New York. And so now that was like all in like a three to four year process. But it was like, soon as I said, mom, I want to do this. It was like basketball practice. Okay.

Drive out on the way. You in the studio till six in the morning, drive back nine, eight. At what age? At shit. 10, 11.

Oh man. Yeah. Shout out to your mama, man. Yeah, mama saw the vision. Man, for real. And she made sure I still took my ass to school, but at the same time she was like, all right, if you want to do this, you're going to have to have the same discipline and you can't be slacking off on certain shit.

So I got too much energy as it is. So I was like, shit, I'm not feeling it. I'm feeling it. Do this. So are people writing songs for y'all, like producing songs? Are y'all just recording? Yeah, yeah. Are y'all, like producing songs? Yeah. Y'all just recording? Yeah, yeah. Are y'all a group?

Like, what's going on? Well, I was never in a group. The only group I was in was with my boy TJ. Shout out to TJ. Free him. Free him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be out in the summer.

He'd be out in the summertime. But back in the day, he was the rapper. You know what I'm saying? And I would get on the songs with him and just be on the chorus. It's like, you know, do hooks and stuff. And we would write little stuff. And it really weren't, like, good at the time when we was young. But it was, for our age, it was, like, exceptional.

People were like, okay, y'all got some potential. You remember? It was, man. This name is terrible. You're sensational. All my fans know my rap name. So he was T.J. Nice and C-Sizzle. Oh, you was a sizzle.

Man, I was playing basketball, so hot sauce. Sizzle was a word you could say back then. I wouldn't be C-Sizzle now. MC Hurricane and C-Sizzle. You niggas would have never made it. Hell no. Hell no, we wouldn't have made it they would've been like

get him out of here I would've been the punk ass executive y'all come sing probably be like man if you don't get Sizzle and Hurricane

the fuck out of here man ain't no me again ain't no me again bro ain't no me again look at R&B look what R&B has done for y'all too man

what was the next level up when was it like okay this shit is getting serious or we found a record or we found a moment R&B is down for y'all too. Man. What was the next level up? When was it like, okay, this shit is getting serious or we found a record or we found a moment where now pros

are starting to... So I had my first, I think, it got serious to me when I booked my, and this had nothing to do with music at the time, but because we showcased

our musical talent, we booked the job. It was for a G-Unit campaign. Oh shit. Right? And so like, I was like, you know what?

50 Cent, he gonna be able to see us. He gonna be at the shoot. Right? And so, like, I was like, you know what? 50 Cent, he going to be able to see us. He going to be at the shoot. We can give him our demo. We can sing, you know, the typical, like, I want to get signed shit. So we actually did the audition. They was like, man, you kids are phenomenal. And they booked us. Boom.

We got there. We backstage with all of them. But I never really hung with 50 at that time. He just was always respectful. Like, what's up, y'all? Boom, boom. But we was around Lloyd Banks, a what's up, y'all? Boom, boom. But we was around Lloyd Banks, a couple of different guys. But we were bad little kids.

You know what I'm saying? We already had weed and shit. So we was like, we trying to smoke our weed on the side. They like, man, what y'all doing? So we're like, nah, we rap and we sing. So we started performing with them. And then they was like, you know what? Man, y'all niggas is dope.

I remember one nigga was like, man, but we don't know how to fucking market no damn kids we some gangsters so i was like so i was like damn like i understood it but it was just like okay this shit about to be real for us because other artists actually looking and that's not saying the typical oh that's cool you know what i'm saying so like real real artists who actually do this and people was looking up there was the hottest group at the time you know what i'm saying so like real real artists who have to do this and people was looking up there was the hottest group at the time you know what i'm saying so like for us that was like seeing seeing gods like okay cool we get to see all our all our idols in one and they like our stuff and then from there our demo tape started going out like we had a but i was only how i got discovered i had a solo song that i did it's called whose girl is that you can go look at her on youtube i was like i think i was 12 or 13 when i shot it so this was a video for two or two yeah so

so but it was like back then you know that was that it was like the bootleg videos you know how uh man this gotta be two thousand what three two thousand two it might have been on dvd i thought i thought it might have been on vh I thought it might have been on VHS. No, no, we had it on DVD. It was on DVD, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it was VHS, I would have been like, ooh, you would have heard the popping before the video started.

Yeah. But when we did the video, like, it wasn't really expensive, but, you know, because it was independent, we was like, okay, cool, we're going to shoot it like this. And the demo tape, actually, the video didn't even go out because we didn't have no platform to put it on we would just ship ship it or shop it with our demos so the demo I was number seven out of a song of maybe like 28 but with seven different or seven or eight different artists it was like a damn

mixtape mix yeah so but basically they were shopping it out to other labels to see and I remember Tina Davis To this day shout out to Tina Davis. She she listened to the songs like who's this kid? and then I want to meet this kid and that's when I went to Def Jam and and She had to meet me with us and then from there they wanted to sign us and then you know a merger happened She left and I was like, hold on, but Tina you listen to me first. So could you you want to manage me? I don't got no manager like she's like cool but you want to stay here i can get you some other deals i said you can also when you went so does the company get the deal and you're part of

that deal so what it was was the company did a deal with me when i ended up signing with uh with jive at the time the company we we just paid them out for the work that they already did and then we gave them points on the album. So they got to overwrite. Yeah. So they always get credited. So that classic album, they're always going to eat from it. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So the way I looked at it, it was cool because they didn't hold me into a, nah, you got to be like this. We taking your publishing. Nah, that's dope. We eat all that. They didn't strong arm at all. And they believed in the dream. You know what I'm saying?

To this day, TJ's father was the guy who who really put it together so me and tj are brothers even with his kids with everything so it's like how i looked at it was like damn they gave me a shot and they let me they let me do what i needed to do because there have been labels that have held artists and you never get a chance to see if if an artist is going to become a star because they're just trying to do what they consider to be business instead of actually caring about the artist. Yeah. Yeah.

And then Mark Pitts, how they did it with us, with Mark Pitts, the actual production company I was working with, they brought me right to Mark Pitts with Tina. So when we went to a job, they was like, you know what? We don't want to let y'all leave the building like and I and I built a bigger rapport with Mark out of any other A&R that I would meet like you know Kevin Lyles was cool as hell but like Mark Pitts was like more young he was energetic like he was like hey man let's and you know Jive had everybody too they had Britney Spears Aaron Carter at the time recipes uh R. Kelly they had. You know what I'm saying? So I'm looking like, who's going to be the best for the genre that I'm doing? Who's going to be the best R&B genre?

You were already thinking about that 14. Yeah, because I always wanted to execute a plan and know that it come with a lot of shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not, okay, I'm not going to just do this right now to get some girls and then go back home. Anything I could do to not go back home, like, you know what I'm saying, okay, I'm not just do this right now to get some girls and then go back home. Anything I could do to not go back home, you know what I'm saying, to elevate my life, I think I plan it. I'm very imaginative. So my, what is it called? My manifestations were already like years in advance.

Like I want to do this. So, you know. So you said Tina Davis. Shout out to Tina Davis. Shout out to Tina Davis. Yeah. Shout out to the Bay Area. Yeah, yeah. When you get with Tina Davis, what is, first of all, you spoke on it just like a little bit in terms of you saying like something about her made sense for you.

Yeah. In terms of saying, you know, I want to roll with you. Yeah. What was that thing that you just connected with that just made you like, cause that's a different type of, cause you already in a building. I feel like what she did, she really kind of like showed me the first, the first 10 minutes of me being in the office. Cause we came in there,

me and TJ came in there, red rags on beads. Like I had, we came on some gangsta tryingsta, trying to look tough. She's like, take that shit off. Take all that off. Boom, boom, boom. And when I started performing, she would be like, stop. Do this when you perform. Act like this person, the only person.

So she gave me direction that I've never experienced. And I was like, this is the sharpening that I need in order to be big. You get what I'm saying? So once she did that, I was like, damn, she believed in me and gave me a chance. They could have just let me go out how I thought it was going to be. And then they were like, we don't want this. You know what I'm saying? We don't want this kid.

She shaped it. So I was like, you know what? I don't want to traverse through this whole kind of thing and not know where the fuck I'm going. That right there, I want to see if she wants to manage me or be a part of it because she kind of opened a spark up in my creative brain or seeing what I really needed to be. And I think the reason I was asking you that is because as, as like, just as new artists emerge, I think, you know, we see, we see new artists with this,

with definitely a great level of confidence, but, um, I want artists to make sure they're putting themselves in a position with people that challenge them. Yeah. Challenge them to be better.

Yeah. What is it called? What we, conditioning, not conditioning. like when we were younger you had to go through artist development

that's what it was so as far as what we had to do is like you gotta go through media training you gotta go you gotta know

how to answer a question like you gotta know how to think about answering a question it's a lost art you gotta know how to lead the interview yeah

like they're they have a goal but I have a fucking goal yeah facts I got shit that I'm selling yeah exactly I don't care what question

you ask me we gonna get back to this fucking album we gonna get back to it I promise you we gonna get back to this that takes preparation though that takes preparation

and I remember my first time meeting you yeah in New York I think you like 14 maybe about to be 15 at Ethiopia's office yeah

when she was in publishing at the time at the Universal Music Publishing Company and I was there on a writing trip and I'll never forget he walked in there

she said it's a kid you gotta meet she's like you have to meet him she's like he only in here for a minute but you gotta meet him and she brought you

to that room and I and literally like you said within 5-10 minutes I was like oh he about to be the biggest star in

the world yeah she's like he was in the writing room i was in the little writing room yeah he's in the writing room i was in the little writing room i was like yo whoever the fuck that is that nigga everybody in trouble yeah she's like you know how that shit is because she was signing you from from a publishing since she was working with you on that so you know of course it's kind of one of those and you know this stage where everybody everywhere you're going before you crack off you're auditioning everywhere pretty much just your personality whatever it is you gotta show so when i tell her she's like yeah you because i think you start i'm like yo he got it it's like he has it yeah and i hadn't seen anything like that because to me you were already even at 14 15 in my opinion

you were already in the space of oh he's going to be able to transition into a adult artist too yeah even though you hadn't put out none of your kid records yeah i saw it with you and just from your personality back you know back what they, what they used to call it, they used to call it mannish, nigga. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. He was mannish. Yeah, I was looking at everything walking through the door with a skirt.

Who that? What's her name? I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to talk to her. But you know, that's the country in it, though.

Yeah, I'm like, you want some lunch? Hey, I ain't driving a 10 in the country. For sure, 100%. It starts early in the country.

Yeah, you grow up fast, fast as fuck. So, so you're making, when you get with T, now you start making rounds. Yeah. Right? Because you made heavy rounds very early that most new artists don't get to make. No.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And you made a stop at the underdogs. Oh, yeah. Facts. Oh, yeah. And I'm looking at this little nigga. I'm like, okay.

I was nervous too though. I ain't gonna lie, going in there with y'all, cause you gotta think, I'm still learning singing. Like, it's still, I had a natural talent, but like to be in there and hear y'all running scales, all that, I'm in there sweating, but I'm not gonna let y'all niggas see it. But you wasn't scared though. I wasn't gonna let y'all niggas see it. You was going back with us, though.

You was like, all right, nigga. A daredevil. Hey, niggas, a daredevil. And I asked the nigga, I look at him, I'm like, can you dance? He said, yeah, nigga. I was like, you can't dance. And you popped in, I think it was a DVD or tape or something. Yeah.

And I said. I showed you the whole, I think that's when we did the little school runs. And I was showing you like the performances. I said, oh, you can dance. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just trying to find a win. I'm like, can you hoop, nigga?

Yeah, nigga. I can hoop. Yeah. Let's go hoop then. Yeah. And it was like at every turn, it was like, this nigga's different. This nigga do everything.

He sing, he dance, he hoop, he manish. Manish for sure. I love this nigga. Yeah. And not to speed forward, but there was a point where I was like, okay, first you get a hit record. Let's start there. Out the gate. Yeah.

Out the gate. There was no sputter for you at all. I was just surprised, though. I was like, I didn't even realize how big the record was going to be. Like, not to kill it now, but I hated the record. Because I was doing R&B, R&B songs. So, like, Scott Storch, I was like, man, I don't know what a hit is. So I'm not going to tell him that this is not a hit. Right.

He got a gang of hits. Yeah. So I sat in there like, man, I don't really like this song. We in Miami. I'm trying to tell Tina and all them, like, I don't think this is for me. This song ain't. We got so many other songs. Like, the Yo song.

The Yo song. The Yo song. Like, so I'm thinking all I don't think this is for me. This song ain't. We got so many other songs. Like the Yo song. The Yo song. The Yo song. So I'm thinking all of that type, because I wanted to be more vulnerable and not. But I also wanted to kick ass on the dance, and I wanted to show off that. So they was like, nah, trust me. This is it. Put it out. And when it blew up, I said, what the?

I'm still in, what is it called? Imposter syndrome? To this day, I still know the feeling of how I felt when that shit went crazy so when you do your deal because we went by that because I always ask this question and at this point you're like 14, 15 when you first get the deal we went by that Because I always ask this question Yeah And at this point You're like 14, 15

When you first get the deal done Yeah Did they let you touch the money? So how I did it See a lot of people don't know I didn't get signed for like You know how people get signed for Oh I got signed for me

And ate me And back then It wasn't Yeah That wasn't the case So I got signed for like 150k Okay

Right And so And then from there Because I was underage, my mom was in control of it, but most of it would be like in a trust. Yeah, yeah.

The Coogan account. Yeah, Coogan account. So I wouldn't be able to touch it. So obviously, she could go and withdraw stuff if I wanted to make purchases or I wanted to do stuff. But no,

I still was every bit of a teenager that they made me. So as a teenager, what's the first thing you buy? Oh. Do you remember? Escalade, what's the first thing you buy? Oh, an Escalade, bro. Yeah.

Off the deal? That's what you got? No, you know what it was? Was it an Escalade or an, it was like an, I don't know if it's an app. It might've been an Escalade or a Ford something.

I remember it was a big truck. It's been a while. But I had the Lamborghini doors on it. And like, I put the doors that come up. Like, your first car, your first car had Lamborghini doors? it. And like, I put the doors that come up. Like your first car, your first car had Lamborghini doors. Man.

Oh, this is getting better. I was about to get a Honda Civic, bro. I was about to get a Honda Civic and put, and put all the shit on it. That was going to be my first car. But then I was like,

it's definitely your uncle. He's your uncle. Yeah. On God. He's definitely got to be related. Y'all blood related. So what? For sure. Cause I was like Genuine is definitely your uncle absolutely he's your uncle on God he's your uncle for sure you definitely gotta be related y'all blood related so what for sure cause I was gonna do that

with the suicide man the butterfly doors yeah bro oh yeah that time like I'm from I'm from partial south

like Virginia is the south but you know what I'm saying so we don't just listen to we listen to everything we listen to everything yeah south

everything well DC, Maryland like well DC and Maryland Just listen to everything. We listen to West Coast, South, everything. Well, D.C. and Maryland, they mirror the South. Yeah. Period. Okay. Like, we mirror everything South. Like, we went through East Coast phase with Biggie and all of that. But we mirror the South.

Cash money was it. Tappahannock, definitely the South. Cash money was it. No, you're... Your first purchase... I'm Money was it. No, you... Your first purchase... I'm talking about Pat the Troy, everybody. Your first purchase is the best one that we've had. Word? What, nigga?

That's the worst, nigga? 15, 16 you bought. But I had the amps in the back, too. I had like... I ain't gonna lie. I took out the whole back seat. It's like... It was like six.

Of course. Six 16s. Of course you did. I'm just knocking. Talking about knocking. He's a fool, nigga. I love it. I Talk about knocking. He's a fool nigga. I love it. I was in Virginia thinking I was shit.

No, you were though. I was like, yeah. You pull up on that skating rink with that shit. Oh God, it's lit. Yeah. It's lit. First hit record, what changes for you in your mind? Now, I mean, now it's not guesswork.

Now things are like. This is what I do. Now things are automatic. Now things are like, it's more so what I need, I can get. It kind of was like, you know when a kid, when I could just go to the movies with my homeboys. Because I did everything as a regular kid. You know what I'm saying? Even being in Harlem to being in Virginia.

I did like regular shit. So I was used to being around people and being in an environment. As soon as that song went crazy, I couldn't go nowhere. I couldn't go to the mall. Like if I walked outside of the neighborhood that I was in, it would be people running down the street. Like, so it was still in Virginia. No, well, in Virginia, he took me out of Virginia. As soon as I, as soon as I shopped the deal, like, I think my record came on, I was in 10th grade when my song came out and when I got my record deal. So, and I didn't leave school until after my song had already hit the radio. So they was like, we got to pull them.

We got to get them out of there. So then from there, I went from Virginia to Jersey so I could be closer to New York. But I couldn't even walk down the street there. We would literally have to drive in the garage every time we come home and shut the door so nobody know. What's the mindset of that for you as this 15, 16-year-old kid? Because that's the one thing. Bro, and I know he can attest to this. Because we are all so close and we've all known each other for so long,

we have so many conversations that come to us about you yeah right yeah and my thing has always been i i can't tell him i can only tell him so much because i haven't had that experience yeah and and that's a very real thing that i think people have never truly taken into account that bro this has been your life yeah since 15 years old yeah like just tell me if you can remember that as being like a 15 year old like yo they're pulling me out of school i can't go outside i can't go to the movies yeah you know i'm not a kid no more because of my challenging spirit i like i like challenges it was amazing to me yeah because i'll be real because guess what if if well now i'm gonna look at the bright side i ain't got to be in school i ain't got to be i could do my i got a

tutor i got whatever i don't gotta be there i could do i can go out did you finish i'm going yeah i did i did but i ain't gonna lie i took the first two years off like of high school though you know how niggas be like I took off college yeah so I was really supposed to be the class of 07 I'm class of 09 yeah so it's like so technically

you're two years younger too now yeah I'll take it this is shit but yeah man it was damn so for you you adjusted to it

yeah it wasn't like and it would be fun I would still do regular shit I would just make sure I have my niggas around like my homeboys some of them be in school

I go to their school some of my cousins just on a friday yeah hey hey y'all come outside they outside the girls outside the window screaming they i would have pulled up too then after that they come back to school on monday they demand in school you know so i used to go to mall shit bow bow did this too like shout out to bow but we used to go to the mall and i did it by myself just to see what. But we used to go to the mall and I did it by myself just to see what it was. I used to go to the mall and just go to one store

that was always popping in Virginia and be like, hey, that's... And then take off running. Wait, you would run before it even get started? I'm telling you

this is genuine, nephew. I'm telling you we did this all the time. We did this. And it worked. I'm talking about they would chase you. You was running out of men's land? I was running out of everything. We did this. And it worked. I'm talking about, they would chase you. You was running out of men's land? Man, I was running out of

every level. We was running out of Oak Tree. We was running out of Oak Tree. Shit was crazy. I was at, I think, Virginia Center Commons. That's what it was. Then I used to be at, I used to go with what was it, up against the wall, it was another, DTLR. DTLR. Yeah, DTLR. I'd be right there.

Yeah, they had the shit in there. Man, what? All the girls would be in there. And then I'd go in there and start, or my homeboys would come with me, and then I'd sing, just so they'd know this is who I am. Like, just on some young shit. Then they'd be like, hold on. That is him. That's some R&B shit, nigga.

That's some R&B shit, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A nigga can't just bust out rapping. No, it ain't the same. It ain't the same. It ain't the same. It ain't the same. Ooh, yeah. Yeah. It ain't the same. It ain't the same. Ooh, yeah!

Yeah. You gonna look around and see who heard it? Ooh, yeah! Facts. It worked. Absolutely worked. It worked.

Okay. Here's what I want from you, right? When did you meet him? When was the Scream Tour? Scream Tour. Was that first album? That's the first album, right?

I think it was the... It had to be. It had to be, like, the first album? That's first album, right? I think it was the- Right after the- It had to be. It had to be like first album, and that first album might have been out- Black Fatigues. Yes. First album? Yep. Okay.

Yep. So, I used to watch you in a Mariam battle. Yeah. And I used to watch Oh Get You. Yeah, for sure. You would be like, fuck! Oh, God. You would be angry, nigga. You'd be like, fuck. Oh, God. You would be angry, nigga.

You'd be like, fuck. That shit was cold, nigga. All right, I'll be back. I always say this to this day. At that time, his discipline and what he learned and how he could do it, niggas was not fucking with that boy. You hear me? He was a monster.

I don't know about now, because I get off now. We can rig it there. But I'm just saying. We can rig it there. We can rig it there but I'm just saying we can rig it there we can rig it there at that time that boy was a monster he was a monster

but I want to go to the Scream tour I was using that to set up the Scream tour and my cousin

my cousin and my people wanted to go to the tour so we came we came to see you we came backstage and everything and I'm watching you

on stage and I had I hadn't seen you perform since the album was out yeah since everything was going crazy i hadn't seen you perform yet and you know all had the records and he was you know of course he was headlining but i watched you come out in those black fatigues and i watched i i can't do the moves i i watched you like you was the crumping and you were like pause you was your arms out this wide you was you was you it was the hype the whole fucking stage was in between y'all and i'm looking i'm like he's getting ready past the the guy he's getting ready to pass him because i didn't see a kid on stage i saw a grown-ass man on stage at the scream tour i was like he's getting ready and i'm looking at my little cousin she's like oh my god

like you all right? You know we go to church on Sunday. You know, we have the Lord is. Today's Friday. Listen, and we go backstage to take her to meet him. And she sees this nigga Chris in the flesh. And she goes, I said, you are little. Sit your ass down. you are little. Sit your ass down.

You are little. That night I saw you there was, for me, the beginning of the separation of you going to another place. Because I felt like you were angrier. You were more aggressive. And you had something in your mind that you were aiming for. You know what it was, though? Even being on that tour like what i learned and i learned from bow a lot yeah you know he's like one of the greatest showmen as far as like his ass he's cold so the the lack of

discipline that i had i had a great amount of training meaning like okay todd sams you know everybody they're gonna they're gonna get us right with the moves we're gonna have fun and and i was able to be also creative, too. They didn't just say, we're going to do this. They let me come up with some things. But the thing that I felt that I lacked was the experience, one, and just the discipline that everybody else had. You know, it was B2K, Bao. It was so many other artists.

These are all polished artists. Yeah. So when you would see their shows you would see the glitz and the glamour like me i had a dj booth just a little dj booth that i would slide from under with the dancers with the little smoke and then i had a graffiti background you know what i'm saying and i think they maybe maybe gave me like 12 minutes i probably had like not even that it might have been eight minutes so i had to you know figure it out but yeah seeing these other performers it it kind of grew my hunger for what I needed to be doing in order to be the person headlining, in order to be the person that I think I can be.

You know what I'm saying? So a lot of those guys and seeing their performance, seeing their quality and how long they're dancing, and then they're just getting off and all the screams. It was really the scream tour. It was really the scream tour like you go yes really it was yeah there's no others there's no other experience that I can tell you at that time was like forget all the festivals and stuff that he got going on right now back then your ears were literally you would really go deaf and shout out to Michael Martin yeah I saw him during the Grammy we got never met him before me and I just told him I'm like listen man

what you did just for I mean obviously what you've done in the business period but that Scream tour Jesus with

giving that type of spotlight to young artists and putting them on that type of platform yeah I I don't know anyone that's done that

I don't I don't I don't think it can be done right now as far as like with young artists I think that's done that. I don't think it can be done right now. No. I think that's something you can't even recreate. I was just happy to be a part of it. That's a legendary thing.

It's tough to recreate with these phones, man. That's the other part, yeah. Yeah, because that stage was like, still in that moment, it still was a place where you still felt like this is the only place i'm gonna get to see this yeah i'm only gonna see this type of shit here like it was still that it hadn't gotten to the phone yet to where you could get used to seeing that type of shit all the time it just runs all day that's them scream tour nigga. It was really screams. Yeah facts like motherfuckers when you came on stage It was they was glued from from from from top to bottom and I was nervous because that's like, you know

We have performed before like I've performed at different places. I had to perform Har what is it playing Hollywood different different places? But these are little venues when you I'm in an arena now and it's even though I go on first The parents back then they trying to get their kids into the building early. So now if the show starts at, let's say, 9, some people might not leave their house till 8.30. You know what I'm saying? But back then, everybody's in there, sitting there, waiting. So whoever the first artist is, they either standing up or booing the shit out of you.

Speaking of booing, did you ever experience a fucked up show? No. Early on. Like early on. No. No? No. I'm going to be real.

I've never got a boo, like a bad boo. I don't want to jinx myself, but I've never got like a- No, he's not your nigga. You're not getting booed. But I've never got booed on stage. You got 4,000 hit records, nigga. You're not getting booed. But I've never got booed on stage. You got 4,000 hit records, bro. You're not getting booed. Don't worry about that. I almost got booed.

You said you almost got booed? Well, it started off with a sputter. That's my fault. It was my fault. His playlist was wrong. The song wasn't working. Yeah. At radio.

And he still wanted to sing it. No, I wish we were working on a song it was a single we spent 700,000 on a video like I'm dancing I'm singing

I started singing this song the girl in the front row looked at her friends and said shit wack oh shit oh god oh god

I still got two minutes left and it's a dap tape so the dap you can't skip the dap. You can't change it. You just got to go. You got to live that motherfucker out. That's when you start thinking the most, huh? That's when I start sweating.

That's when you get cotton mouth. Man. Now, I fucked up myself on stage. Like, did a backflip, slipped. But I play it off. Or, like, you know what I'm saying? Then stepped off a stage before and fell in the crowd that's

yeah that's not that's not to say but it's yeah he said they still feel bad for you

cause you just being great yeah they still scream oh my god is he okay oh my god is he okay so off the first

off the first album you start to you start to see what this first album, you start to see what this thing is like. You start to see what fame is like and how you're going to adjust. Did you ever have the, can I do it again? Because people talk about the sophomore jink. Rob Markman I had that in the back of my head probably

every day. You know what I'm saying? So for me, because the first album was like a learning experience. I wrote with writers. I didn't really write. You know, it was really how they kind of shaped what my ideas would be. The second album was like, okay, cool. Well, you've been right.

The song selections you picking, the choices, you know what you're doing. But I feel like it's like the challenge thing again. I was like know what i'm gonna try to prove them wrong so you fought for that yeah like i said i proved myself wrong with the with the first album so it's like now now i'm gonna prove them wrong i could do this so i was i had that sophomore jinx in the back of my head what's the first first record from the second half the second album damn let me you can make me go you know i got a lot of damn albums, man. I know. I know.

I think that's the album. I was about to start saying records from the first album. Exclusive. Was it Kiss Kiss? Yeah. It was Kiss Kiss, wasn't it? It had to, it had to. Oh, no.

Wall to Wall? Oh, Wall to Wall. I think it was Wall to Wall. Yeah, it was Wall to Wall. It was absolutely Wall to Wall. Yeah think it was Wall to Wall. Yeah, it was Wall to Wall. It was absolutely Wall to Wall. Yeah, it was Wall to Wall. Absolutely Wall to Wall. Then Kiss Kiss.

I can only imagine you putting together your show set. No, look. What record is that? For a tour now? Bro. It's crazy. Because I'm trying to, because, you know, people are still in love with the older songs.

So it's like, I have no problem doing that. But the only difference is when people come to my shows, I want them to see something like evolution. Like, you know what I'm saying? They're not seeing the last tour that they saw. They're not seeing the one before that. Every tour is completely different, and it gives them, you know, the same nostalgia,

but also with the new music. So it's so hard for us right now. I even put on my Instagram and Twitter, like, look, what songs y'all want me to perform? You're doing a poll. They was like, all of them bitches. I said, we're going to be there for three days. I'm not.

But you got to think of it like this, though, right? I always equate it back to like Frankie, Beverly, and Maze. Yeah. Frankie, Beverly, and Maze. The same show in arenas for 20 years with all due respect they don't have

a hundred what I'm getting to is the variations of those songs that may get old to you don't get old to them but Don't get old to them. Yeah. But at least how they will see it.

Yeah. They remember. They're telling their friends, watch when he do this. He do this thing when he sing. Watch when... They're waiting. You got a point, too.

That's a point, but I always want to... How I look, I'll be like, you know what? I want to always give them more. It's not like... Because you can see Chris Brown on YouTube, but you can go see it and be like all right boom and

then they're like man he just fell off i never want to hear that shit until i'm ready to be like look i'm tired i don't want but i think because you're putting out new material i'm not you're not gonna be tired but that was just hypothetical you have like 8 000 songs in the vault what's the longest show you've done shit the last one we just did. We just came from tours overseas. You came to it. It's like two hours and 15 minutes. Hold on.

Two hours and... Nigga, that's... Hold on. Hold on. Let's go there. That's a fucking movie. Let's go there. That's the godfather. Let's go overseas.

Shit. I was like, babe, we're going overseas to Chris Brown. What the fuck are you talking about? We're going to Paris. Yeah. Pack your shit. We're going to see Chris Brown. I done told you now.

Don't make me tell you again. That nigga try to act like he have enough room in his bag to bring me back a hoodie or nothing though. Oh yeah, he didn't get you no merch or nothing.

Cause he don't like to travel like that. First of all, you should've came. Okay? Get your own goddamn merch. Get your own goddamn merch. Well, merch here now.

Merch here now. The merch here. We're in Paris and we pull up to the venue. I'm hitting now. The merch here. We're in Paris, and we pull up to the venue. I'm hitting Anna. We're here. He's like, all right, come to the back. And as we're at the venue, it's quiet outside of the venue. Super quiet.

The show starts in maybe like an hour. It's quiet. There's no traffic there's there's there's nothing and i'm like this is weird this is chris brown so this is this it's supposed to be crack you think it's supposed to be it's supposed to be off the chain outside motherfucking supposed to be bootlegging shit all sorts of shit right yeah we walk into that building there There's 20,000 people already in their fucking seats. An hour before the show. Probably two hours before.

They are in their seats like this. Ready. We're waiting on Dickie's Brownies coming out soon. We're just waiting on Dickie's Brownies going to be so good and and you know we so used to seeing shows you know in the states

and how people react in the states but I wanted to go to Paris because I wanted to see people with a different mindset I wanted to see people completely free

of what this the state stigma is on how people you gotta be cool people supposed to act how the dudes is like i mean i fuck with the nigga he cool yeah i rock with it wasn't none of that i'm watching grown men go apeshit lose themselves in the music when these songs come on i got a videotape of the entire arena jumping up and down. I'm like,

Jesus Christ. And we had talked about it before, before you got the overseas tour. And I said, bro, I said, little bro, the world is getting ready to open up to you in such a way that I don't even

think you go, you even understand. And you was like, he was like, bro, I hear you, but I'm, I'm,

I'm not going to believe it until I see it. Yeah, facts. I remember I told you that. Yeah. And we were sitting in your dressing room backstage. I said, do you see this? I said, and I watched you for two nights in a row. I don't know how the fuck you did it.

For two and a half hours, dance and sing nonstop. Because I haven't been over there in a minute too so by me having a tour out there i was like damn this is i haven't toured over there in 12 years in certain places 12 years like like london certain places it had been 12 years so i'm like damn so that they got a whole chunk of history that they ain't even seen so i'm like i can't be lazy and go on stage and do 60 minutes 90 minutes and just be like all right cool we just give me all the new shit and getting out of there 60 90 minutes is the that's the regular show and he's like i can't be lazy i can't be lazy because of the chunk of like the chunk of history they missed yeah so because because think about it it's it's

people that's my age bringing their kids to the show you get what I'm saying so they're like now this is the person I like so it's almost like teaching a class again like okay cool the kid might not know this song but they mama know this song and they going crazy

you know so but in that space it's like it's like a different appreciation remember I was like it's like not to discredit you know the US

but at the end of the day when you go over there it's like you're really appreciated for the music. Because they don't see you all the time either. It's like you said, they miss you. They miss you. But R&B is still a thing. And I got to say it.

We're not slighting the US, but the US is spoiled. They see us walking down the street. They see us in Beverly Hills. Yeah, they can see us. We're accessible. They see us in Miami moving around. They see us walking down the street. They see us in Beverly Hills. Yeah, they can see us. We're accessible. They see us in Miami moving around. They see us. And so overseas, even outside of the presence, their thirst and desire for real music is just different.

It's still old school over there. It's still vinyl over there. It's crazy to me when they know the words to your songs and they don't speak English. They don't speak English. That's got to be crazy. That's phenomenal. I never, I could never understand that. It still makes me, I think I get more excited when I see that because I'm like, you know what?

That type of energy, they don't know what the fuck I'm saying. Or they might now, but for them to like something that bad, you know what I'm saying? That takes dedication. and you know what I'm saying that take dedication yeah but you know the states give me my love too cause I can't I can't lie fuck the media aspect

we talk about like nah we talk about when I when I when we yeah them asses in them seats you know what I'm saying

100% and so and they real fans. Like, my fan base, I can say, you know, you got Nicki's fan base, Beyonce's fan base. Team Breezy's motherfucker. Yeah, but the fans, I feel like everybody, them, their family, they got, they always, you know, I always comment. I'll get on somebody's ass if they go crazy in the comments. But they, I always listen and kind of like let them dictate certain aspects.

Okay, y'all want to hear this? Y'all like this? Like I like to be engaged with them so they know that this shit ain't just like, oh, all right, shut up and listen, and then I'm going to make y'all follow me this way. You know what I'm saying? I feel like as a family and the people that support me, they're like, I love this person. It'd be people's mamas, kids younger, they'd be like, you know what?

I love that boy. And I can feel that energy. So when I get into an arena, you know, the fans are the really ones that keep me here. Bro, you changed the meet and greet. Oh yeah, you got some flack behind that too, huh? Like nigga, you literally changed the meet and greet. I'm gonna say this, okay?

All right. They got on his ass. His wife gonna let him do like three poses? I'm not doing okay I might have to do something yeah you gotta you gotta

at least I might have to do something you know what I'm saying but the Chris Brown meet and greet is out of control you might need to bench press

or something in there it's disrespectful that shit fun like I'll bet it it's fun because look where else in the time, everybody's usually like, you get your pictures back in the day, the artist like, don't touch me. And I don't do, I'm not doing like 150 people a night, you know what I'm saying? It might be a small intimate group of people that actually spent that money that they might

not even have to come and meet me, i'm not gonna make their moment you know i don't want to make their moment just some hey what's up let me sign this get the fuck out like that's weak to me because i feel like these are the same people no matter how big of that group or smaller that group i feel like they're the same people that's a part of the the family aspect yeah so so and some of these girls is man that's their bucket list some of like, look, all I want to do is just be able to be on him. Cool. Long as you ain't got COVID, we good. So I should tell my wife she should loosen up

and let me really greet the fans. Yeah, but you can't do no motherfucking pictures with your shirt off because then you can't gauge what the person... It can't be skin to skin. It can't be skin to skin. Yeah, because you don't know what she... Mother might lick your stomach or something you gonna be like hold on

hold on hey you stop that you get off me now but you also in my opinion bro like I've met a lot of people I've friends with a lot of people we've been in this industry a long time and I really believe that you

are the most how can I say that you are the most. How can I say you? You're the. Who cares, bro? Cook, remain humble, man. You absolutely care. You care. But the most accessible superstar I've ever seen.

Literally, bro. Yeah. I feel like Jill probably humbled me on that one. There's that. Yeah, there's that. But being able to like go through shit and not have to be, you know, walk a thin line, because a lot of artists have to walk a thin line unless you're independent. If you're like the mainstream, you can't do this, you can't be associated with somebody,

you can't do a song because of how it looks. Once that shit, like once I was able to still do music and I got to be my regular nigga, like I got to be myself. Right. Man, fuck all this extra shit I can, look, if somebody come up to me, what's up? You like my music? All right, I appreciate it. Cool.

Can I get a picture? If I'm in a go, sorry, not right now, but I appreciate you. Boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I'm not, it's a million pictures. Whether I'm drunk, whatever it is, I'm going to take a picture with somebody. Because I've been humbled through whatever my experiences are. So I done went through bullshit.

I done went through normal nigga shit. So it's like, you know what? Let me not take this shit for granted and be appreciative. Every single second, every single time I get a chance to do anything or be around somebody. This is a flowers pod, right? And so this is for you, your flowers. Take a second to speak on Team Breezy and staying down with you through thick and thin. What is that feeling like to you?

It's the imposter syndrome again. Because it's unbelievable. Sometimes I wake up syndrome again like you know because it's it's unbelievable like sometimes i wake up i'm like damn people go by like whether i'm promoting i don't care if it's some shoes i'm promoting or there's a there's a following of people a big following of people who who support me you know what i'm saying so that also makes me uh like cherish where i'm at bro it's a team Breezy like even to have have a name for for people that that follow you

is kind of crazy you know what I'm saying so I feel like I'm appreciative like my fans know how much and I try to let them in on stuff I talk to them like I remember

cause some of my dates for the tours will come I say look y'all getting on my damn nerves if y'all ain't got the damn your city ain't on the goddamn shut the fuck up and go to the next city

so so like but but I'm able to I I wouldn't even be If y'all ain't got the damn... Your city ain't on the goddamn... Shut the fuck up and go to the next city. So, like, but I'm able to... I wouldn't even be in this chair right now. Like, but y'all my brother, so I probably would be in the chair. But any success or anything that's furthered these songs that I'm putting out, like, that ain't us paying somebody off and trying to, like, please. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's really the fans. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's really the fans. You know what I'm saying?

And they, and they kept me here 20, almost 20 years now. So it was like, for me to have that connection with them is probably the biggest thing ever.

Yeah. You know? So I'm, so I'm, that's why I'm always thirsty and still doing music. Why are you still doing this? Why?

Shit, because of y'all. Like, that's the reason. Real talk. Shout out to Team Breezy. Shout out to Team Breezy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they show us all talk. Shout out to Team Breezy. Shout out to Team Breezy. Yeah, yeah.

They show us all up. I talk to Team Breezy often. I talk to Team Breezy often. You know, as a Team Breezer. You know what I'm saying? I'm in that motherfucker with you. Shout out. What's your favorite album?

Out of mine? Of yours. Yeah. Damn. You know what it is? Can I have two? You can. All right, cool. I got 11 of them motherfuckers. My two will be my first one because of the experience, what we talked about earlier, like how it felt. Everything was amazing. So I think the first one and then my fame album

your fame yeah cause I got the the Grammy album the Grammy album the Grammy album and the reason why I say that is because of

the shit I had to go through around that time and still make music and people still listening to me despite maybe not fucking with me for real or not liking me

or you know what I'm saying the first cancel nigga yeah so you know so those two saying? The first canceled nigga. So those two albums were milestones in my career. The first one was showing me that I'm able to do it and then that album was like, okay, you can do it. Yeah, I can do it again. I'm going to go... the other first album.

The first album is a classic. That exclusive is special to me. What's your favorite Chris song? Indigo is... Yeah. What's your favorite Chris song, Tank? I know mine off the top of my head. It changes.

He just played me... I just played him the new stuff. He just played me some shit. I still got my favorite, though. You don't have your favorite? It changes every time he plays me something. Mine is no bullshit. He just...

To this day. Yeah. To this day. The nigga played it for me at record plant, and I said, nigga, put it out tomorrow. The record that haunts me, like a record that when I hear it, it takes me to where I was. Like, it takes me back to Paris and watching you on stage. It's Indigo. Yeah.

There's something about the feeling. There's something about the conversation. Shout out to Indigo. There's something about Indigo, bro, that is so special to me. I don't know what it is it's the melodies it's the it's the production it's the words it's like i'm like it's it's special to me yeah super special man um um and heat and the reason he just got so embedded was because everybody thinks i'm singing on it and Heat.

And the reason Heat just got so embedded was because everybody thinks I'm singing on it. Oh, yeah, the backgrounds? Everybody thinks I'm singing on Heat. And I never said I wasn't singing on Heat. You know what I'm saying? I don't think he knows what songs he's on of yours are not. But since Chris is here... He's coming down in and it could be like,

Jay, I think I'm singing backgrounds. I'm sensational. No, I was listening to Sensational the other day and I was like, why does he sound like me on the end of this song? Why does his ad-libs? I said, fuck, I did the ad-libs. Okay, got it, got it. Cause Chris would be like,

I need to get in the booth and just sing something and shit. I was like, what? Yeah, I'd be like, cause I just need his voice and backgrounds and he knows where to put the pockets at, especially with the singers. So I'd be like. I was like, what? Because I just need his voice and backgrounds and he knows where to put the pockets at, especially with the singers.

So I'd be like, it'd have been, what, damn near eight to nine songs already on a different album. Yeah, I'd just go in the booth and just sing backwards.

And I'd be like, just sing the background. I'm going to touch the background. He never remembers though. We'd be doing so much of it. Yeah. And for me, it's just like,

in your space, I just try to make myself available for whatever it is you need. You know what I'm saying? Whether it be music or conversation yeah um another question i wanted to ask you is probably a deeper question in in now in your stages of being a father we we have so many loves right um and love changes in terms of what it means as we grow. What does love mean to you now? That's a deep question.

What does love mean to me? Love is scary to me, but at the same time, like, I'm full of it. You know what I'm saying? I'm full of love. So I feel like my kids kind of made me appreciate what i'm saying i'm full of love like so i feel like my my kids kind of like made me appreciate what that word mean what the word meant like to love something outside of yourself outside of anything that's like where that's that's a great segue are they are are they making you more free to love more open to love yes and no they they're they're making me more open to loving them like i'm just it's very it's very hyper focused i'm i'm pouring all my love into them but you're also very protective yeah a hundred

percent right so it makes you yeah not let more people in oh yeah but at the same time like it's making me learn patience and making me learn just life skills that i that i i might have might have been too too antsy for too busy for so i think love for me now is like, it's expanding. It's like you saying you have to have a favorite color, right? No, I really don't. I actually find beauty in all of the colors. So my thought process on love isn't as controlled as I thought it should be. It should be like this.

It should be like, no, love is an abundance to me. So I feel like it's like alright cool I don't got yeah I could I could do this I lit him a little bit out yeah I could

I could smile a lot more yeah now Ed Bro look that's what you for what you've been through and what you've accomplished

yeah you should smile more yeah you know what I mean you should continue to have a good time because this this isn't given to everyone yeah you know what i mean it's especially your life and what you know and but the thing that would make me angry when it came to you was that people didn't realize this was your life yeah you know what i mean everybody had an opinion or has an

opinion of how you should live your life and for me as your brother i've never had an opinion about how you should live your life and you know we've had many a talk in many cities and many long nights and i've never said you should do no you should do what you want to do and live how you want to live and experience the things you want to because it's what makes you who you are. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you've been able to, like you said, the average motherfucker can't go sit down and be in a holding tank and go to jail. That's your experience.

Yeah. So whatever that puts you there, you were able to man up, accept that. Yeah. Even though you did lose me a championship in the NBA E-League because we was undefeated and then you had to

go do two months or six months whatever we needed you bro yeah my bad I was like and then by the time I got out

I was not about to play no basketball and the season was over I came up like Sinbad we gotta see you and you was like nigga this be gone

in two weeks you had to have a pro in the stomach you said it's And you was like, nigga, this be gone in two weeks. You had the half a fro in the stomach. You said, it's going to be gone. He said, it's going to be gone in two weeks.

Two weeks. And in two weeks, the guy was like, okay, he's back. Yeah, I was, because they caught me

in them pictures. I think we went to like, man, I went to, I went to South of France or something. But they took the pictures and I was just seeing

that jelly roll. I said, what? Hell no. And then from there, just dancing, dancing, dancing. I was just seeing that jelly roll. I said, what? Hell no. And then from there just dancing, dancing, dancing. I was even big when I got out of jail for the BT Awards. When we

came, I did Loyal. This was when everybody was wearing the Pharrell hats. Yeah, like, you know, Smokey the Bear hat. But I remember having this outfit. Yeah, Smokey the Bear. Hysterical. But I remember having this outfit. I had to put the outfit on, and it was too small. The pants wouldn't fit.

I'm like a 34 or 36. I was like a 40. I know 34, 36. Yeah, for sure. I was like a 40 or something. You was a 40? I was a 40. I'm talking about big boy. I said, hold on.

You know what? I can't do this no more. But I had to go through a lot of boot camp dancing and everything else to get back. But nigga shook back, though. Yeah, because you was. All right. It was terrible. I'm telling you.

That was probably my most depressing time of my life, bro. I was like, this ain't Chris Brown, man. He was nigga brown then. They cloned Chris Brown. They cloned Chris Brown. When did you really get into the business of, like, start owning the business of all of that? Because that's what people really don't know about you. I think.

It's how you own the business of all of this. I did that first. And I would be like, I was 17 when I started trying to invest in certain things just because I knew, like, you know, unless you're touring, unless you, like, you don't know how long you're going to be successful. And it's not like every artist can make it look like they're getting money, getting money, getting money. If you're not a touring act, if you're not doing stuff, you're not going to, you need an exit strategy. So I would have, like, you know, the business people around me at the time can't say they were good at the time but you know my investments were like into burger kings and stuff like that just so i could have a portfolio of and and you know constant income you know so that was my first step

but when i really started getting into like the music side like the executive side, I was 25. And what happened was Loyal and all these other records had already been blowing up. And I was almost out of my contract. So I was able to negotiate. I was like, well, cool. Well, now that I have leverage as an actual artist, I don't want to be an artist. I want to be 50-50 profit share with you guys. I want to have the same deal with Birdman. I got with Universal. I want to be 50 50 profit share with you guys. I want to have the same deal bird man. I were universal

I like, you know, you know, I asked around trying to figure it out so I don't have to be Getting you know Sensed on the dollar right, you know just living off of the dance. You know I'm saying so from there That was my first step boom And then I think they were like, oh and then they kind of they kind of like, you know what fuck it We'll do it. I'm like shit. Damn. I'm like the youngest nigga with this deal right here I don't think nobody knows, you know So that was my first step then after that was me trying to own my masters so i think when i was like 27 or 28 like by that time it was renegotiation

time and i was like hey cool i still want this but let me get my masters from here from from i think from my fame album and up i, let me get the masters from there. And then I'm able to come back and negotiate, you know, in six years for the first album and all of my shit. So being able to have that type of structured deal, like shout out to Mark Pitts again. You know what I'm saying? Peter Edge, everybody that was, you know, everybody that really kind of like looked and said, you know, we'll give him this deal. And Barry Weiss. Barry Weiss, like, he put the shit down.

Like he really, he the one that kind of allowed me to be like, you know what? Here, fuck it, kid, take it. Yeah. You got it. I mean, you have made him so much money. But let's also speak on that. Let's not just breeze over that. The fact that you understood, though gotta prove myself first because now we

have these we have these new artists who come into the game thinking they can own the masters like why would i let you have the masters or why why would you deserve your masters in the beginning if someone is actually making the initial investment yeah and they're not worth nothing and they're not worth anything so somebody walking into the door saying why i own my masters okay well what are you going to do with it yeah do i know how to license it is there any distribution for it and is it worth anything yeah in the beginning right so you were able to say hey listen now i want from fame ongoing and now i'll put myself in position because I'll continue to be successful yeah to come back again renegotiate yeah and get those initial albums as well yeah

that's just smart business yeah and I think on yourself and betting on yourself but I think people want to skip the steps yeah and say oh what is labeled like listen labels are going to be what they are labels are going to yeah they're banks and that's what they do but they also have infrastructure to put you in a place that's unimaginable yeah yeah absolutely i don't disagree with that at all you know what i mean yeah and so i i think you should be for lack of a better term a poster boy of like listen just be successful just be great you'll be, for lack of a better term, a poster boy of like, listen, just be successful. Just be great. Be great.

You'll get everything you're supposed to out of this shit. Yeah. And get the right lawyers. Make sure your lawyers is looking over your contract. Got to have a great lawyer. Yeah. And so you got to make sure everybody, you know, when I was young, I was fortunate enough to be saved on certain things. But my deals weren't always great so once i was

able to be able to be more independent it's like look i got a little bit more leverage now and then you know they made all this money and all that so i'm more like you know i'm able to now now see real money or see something from what i've created because i know i created it so now you know i can go and do this now i can create some more wait till y'all see what I'm about to create so now I get to own all of that you know and it's like

you said I'm like a testament to that to hey not saying put your head down just be the best you yeah right I feel like the way

I go to the gym is the way you go to the studio yeah it's like that's what I said yo me and Green you should bench press

it's like the is there a way? No, no way. Limit though. We don't have to get a good three 15, three 50 off. But even in my,

my mean green pitches, like it's some, some joints and like some nights I'd be like, you know what? Come on. Yeah. Cause you know, I'm older than you, Chris. But yeah but yeah it's like we can't do certain things

yeah like let's try something else i ain't got the same back i used to i got your picture i got a shelter next night listen i'm already waiting for what these pictures are going to look like, man. This shit is going to be insane. Oh, shit. Here's the last question. Bro, how do you do like 8,000 songs in one night, bro? You do 15 seconds of each one. How is that even possible that you, I come to your house and there are, I just left your house two days ago and I come back and there are 20 new songs.

How? I just feel like a lot of the times, you know how I used to be in the studio back in the day, even I'd be like, yo, come to the studio. Like, I just, I think, what did you call it? You master something that you spend more than a hundred hours on or something like that. So I think I just try to overly, overly, overly, overly master it. So me being in the studio, like I might have an idea in my head or I might just hear some songs like man i need to get on my game i need to steal it's like shooting jump shots like you know you got to make sure if you don't if you don't sharpen the tool it ain't gonna work so i feel like me being in the studio is where i kind of live i got two studios you see

in the house i got two studios in the house so so i can change scenery or change like you know mental states when i'm in different studios. Yeah, I ain't been buying it. I've never seen anything like that. You got to pull up. You're making the amount of songs that the underdogs, all of us in different rooms, used to make. It was six of us. And he's still making more than that.

It's just one of you. We weren't doing 20 a night. We weren't writing 20 songs a night. You gotta relax, Do you know how many songs you have? I said before, like, 15,000,

but then I, but then I think I miscalculated, you know, so it's, you know, some Will Chamberlain shit? Yeah,

that was, that was, I think, I was thinking of it, I'm like, okay, I got this, this. 15,000 is a lot of fucking songs. Yeah, that's a lot of fucking songs. know, so it's some wood chamberlain shit. Yeah, that was I think I was thinking of it I'm like, okay. I got this Some I'm gonna be realistic and it's in the eight thousands to nine thousand Like like it's finished or just It can be pieces. I can say pieces. They want it won't be it might be first verse course

You know, I used to send demos out. It'd be first verse of chorus and then no second verse. So it'll be stuff like that. So it's like, yeah, collectively it's that. That's insane, bro. What you got for him, champion? Come on, Comfy T. You see what he got.

You see his fit. He comfy. Shout out exclusive game. Come on, Comfy T. Turn these towels into an outfit. It's the Superman music. No, it's not. We don't want to be sued.

The remix. Team Breezy, want to know. What they want to know. What we want to know. You've listened to a lot of music in your days, young man. Yeah. Some of this music you've made your favorite. The world wants to know your top top The world wants to know your Top five

Come on, sing that shit, dog. Your top five Yeah Top five Your top five Yeah R&B singers What else?

R&B singers. What else? R&B songs. We want to know. You got a show. I'm dancing to go. I really want to know. You're top five. Yes. Rawr.

You're top five. Yes. Rawr. Now. Top five. Your top five. Yeah. Yeah So y'all gonna put me on the spot, brother Yes, we are It's so damn hard to pick five But look, I'll give you Now, my shit might change

Come on In a couple days Come on So top five R&B singers, right? Right now, today Oh, you're saying today? No, no, no I'm saying how you feel today

Oh, right, cool Dead or today. Oh, you're saying today? No, no, no. I'm saying how you feel today. Oh, all right, cool. Dead or alive. Your world. So, this is not biased because my bro in the room. You know, I say it all the time. Tank. Usher.

Yes. Brandy. Yeah. Tevin Campbell. Yeah. Hell yeah. And Sam Cooke. Shit.

So, that's my top five I can think of right now Okay Alright Tevin was really He's cold Come on Tevin Listen

Tomorrow Tomorrow I'll bring Better you Better me He was He was killing grown men Prodigy

He was a prodigy His range was insane He was gifted His range was insane. He was gifted. His range was insane. Oh my God. We are gifted. Speaking of chest voice, nigga,

how do you still sing that high? I'll get on my nerves. He be giving me songs like, bro, you can sing this one. I don't know. I think it's, it's just like the adrenaline

when you get on stage. It's like. But his talking voice is not low. My talking voice is raspy. But you're clear on records. Yeah. So I don't know. I just always, I guess we sing from different parts.

When I talk, I don't think I'm talking from the same diaphragm as when I'm singing. So I'm pushing the air differently. Yeah. So I feel like that's why I'm able to still sound young and still or sound like the old me, but not the super young me, not the 15, but at least

my voice hasn't like changed dramatically. No, it's like, nigga, you and Ralph Tresvang. Yeah. Facts. Nigga, I do not sound like the young Tank.

Ralph figured it out. Nigga, I listened to the young Tank. I was like, who is this? Who is this? This nigga was cold. Why is he singing 355 still in the song?

I'm going crazy. They be like, sing that old song, I will not. Not me. Breezy, your top five R&B songs.

Ooh, this is gonna be difficult, brother. Braid My Hair by Mario. Shit. Good one. Earl Lilly. Earl Lilly.

Somebody sleeping in the night. Yeah. The remix? The remix. So,. Girl, Lily. Girl, Lily. Somebody sleeping in my bed. The remix? The remix. So, so definitely. Okay. You want it there? Come on, JD.

Damn. Oh, Sex, Love, and Pain. You know that? Yes, the beginning. The intro. The intro. Yes. That he never does live.

He's crazy. I do do it live. Bro, I do do it live. I do do it live. You. That he never does live. He's crazy. I do do it live. Bro, I do do it live. You don't give him the shit, though. Bro, I listen to that when I was on tour. Any tour I was on, I would listen to that as my warm-up songs, bro. So I need you. I need you right now.

I need you right now, my brother. I need you on my team to tell him. To do the damn song. Not even a song. I need him to do the sex, love and pain album. One night only. Yeah.

You got to at least, you got to give him that. Cause that's my favorite album. One night only. Don't be scared. Let's do it at the Apollo. Let's do it at one of those. One of them type of venues.

All right. One night only. Done. Damn. I'm trying to think. That's three songs. That's three. That's three. I got to think of two more. Now this is it. All right. One night only? Done. Damn, I'm trying to think. Thank you, Chris. That's three songs? That's three.

That's three. That's three. I got to think of two more. Now, this shit all is subject to change now. Yeah. Is it Superstar? Usher? Usher?

Yeah. Superstar. Fucking right. And Candy Rain, Soul For Real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Shout out to So For Real. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah, so yeah. Shout out to So For Real.

You know, I like what you're doing here, man. We need So For Real on the podcast. But it's so difficult for me to come up with those five songs because I had like ten other songs in my head. You're like a combo of so many artists. You got your own damn 4,000, 8,000. Yeah, and I didn't want to add my songs in there. I wanted to get everybody else's songs.

You are allowed to do that. Do you have a favorite Chris Brown song? Shit. No, I have eras. I have times of when I like songs. Hey, man, this nigga's just pouring champagne. You got some champagne to pour? I told you he's breaking his own record.

Nigga, I got eras. Nigga's breaking his own record. I think eras is like certain songs that I, what I was going through at certain times. So I was like, damn. Like how you like No Bullshit. For example, that era of No Bullshit and Deuces. Yeah.

Those songs, when we did those songs, that was like when I was at my lowest. Like I was like, with the back against the wall, like no support from the label, no support from radio. They was like, you know what,

we ain't fucking with you. Mixtape. You're canceled. Yeah, so these songs were mixtape songs that out 10 months before we put them on that album. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm shot the video for like 2,500 each video, the Deuces video, and no bullshit, but it was like being an independent artist and grinding your motherfucking self, being like, you know what, I'm going to prove them wrong.

So I could say those songs would be an error, and then it could be the next songs that I'm doing. So it switches all the time. Yeah. You know, I feel like I can always go back to different songs and then relive those moments in my head and be like, damn, that happened. That was crazy.

And also remind myself, like, damn, I do remember that. You know? Yeah. All right, Breezy. That was crazy. And also remind myself, like, damn, I do remember that. You know? Yeah. So. All right, Breezy. Let's build your Voltron. You're a super R&B artist. Yeah.

We want to know who you're going to get the vocal from, the performance style, the styling from, the heart of the artist, the passion of the artist. And since you're a songwriter, who's going to write for that artist? Let's start with the vocal. Who are you getting the vocal from for your super R&B artist? The vocal? Damn. I'm going to go with Tevin Campbell.

I'm going to just put as far as the vocal. Like the range or whatever. Yeah, I'm going with Tevin. Your voice. His voice was different. His voice was just cold. It wasn't supposed to be like that. No.

So I'm going to go voice-wise. Yeah. Yeah, between him and Mike. Because Mike just. You got to pick one. Or you can mix it. What you doing? Yes, it's going to be like a hybrid.

It's going to be Mike and Tevin. Tevin Jackson? Tevin Jackson. Tevin Jackson. Okay. Performance style on stage. Michael Jackson, 100%. I could have guessed that one.

Yeah, you should have. Yeah, that was easy. Yeah. Okay. Styling. Who going to put this shit on? Drip. Damn.

It's going to be a hybrid. Another hybrid. It's going to be like a trifecta hybrid. Michael, me, and Usher. As far as styling. Slide nigga. And I got to say Usher in this category because through his eras, from the My Ways to the, you know,

everything he done has been visually, like, stamped in your head to where it's iconic. Yeah, it's iconic. You know what I'm saying? Yes. He made niggas wear koofies and shit. Like, you remember? Yeah. I sure do.

So it's like certain things will always be embedded in style and fragments to me. So it's like Michael was the definition of that. Like he could wear wrestling looking belts. He coined it. He coined the thing. Yeah. Like being his own icon. I think when we talk about styling,

not even to stop you here, but I think you're the first person, the first artist that I've ever walked into the room, to the dressing room. And there were like. The racks. there were racks on racks on racks of clothes and you had no idea what you were going to put on like that night you don't you don't have a uniform where you're like okay this is the tour fit and these are the combinations

of the tour fit the dancers will wear this i was like what are you gonna wear he's like i don't know i'm about to look through it right now. Like he getting dressed for school? Like he getting, you know, like he getting dressed in Neiman Marcus. Let me just grab some of this motherfucker

and put, I've never seen anything like that in my life. So what I've done the last couple of tours, and this tour is going to be a little different. So we have a set

to wear because I don't want to give too much away. I want y'all to come see it. But, I'm going gonna have changes in the outfits but the outfits are going to be more customized like a lot of like designers are making specific stuff for me so it'll be more so it goes along with the with the actual show of

what i'm trying to show like the broadway style of what i'm trying to show but before like the last tour you were at and the different ones the stage that i built is is you can change your outfit every night you could be something different because the stage doesn't it doesn't have a certain yeah it has a freedom about it yeah so we just have a rack of clothes and long as long as i can dance in them and and it's not not too tight or the shirts like you know i'm putting on something different every night i always think of behind these things i be thinking about the nigga that has to put take all that out

and then put off and he be trying to figure out a way to steal some shit too of course now he be like can I have this I be like go ahead bro I'm good

that fits me I mean yeah this nigga always comes back with something and shot a video in his coat I was like who did shoot a video

look cause this nigga not afraid to ask cause look that's he be like look little bro you already wore that shit you ain't finna wear that no more go on get it you can take it I'm like go ahead bro You did shoot a video. Look, because this nigga not afraid to ask. Because look, that's, he's like, look, little bro. You already wore that shit. You ain't finna wear that no more. Go on, get to it.

You can take it. You can take it. I'm like, go ahead, bro. Shot a whole video in that jacket. Like, mm. Oh, shit. The passion of the artist. Passion of the artist.

Prince. I would say Prince. This is cold passion. Like, because he can play every fucking instrument right and mean it man what

and mean it better come get this hit better come get this hit who says that like I would've been like fuck that I'm keeping this record you don't want this record

no he he know his shit is the shit he threaten that nigga his passion he threaten that nigga with a smash with a smash

you should start doing that cause you got a gang on here record you should start telling niggas that better come get this hit Oh, his shit is the shit. He threatened that nigga with it. His passion. He threatened that nigga with a smash. With a smash. He threatened him with a smash. You should start doing that. Because you got a gang of hit records. You should start telling niggas that. Better come get this hit. Get this song, my nigga. Yeah. Who's going to write for that artist?

Damn. There's so many damn good writers. Who's going to write? I was, I couldn't say Phil Collins because it wouldn't be cool. Because Phil Collins is one of my, like he's one of the dope writers I fuck with all the time. Phil Collins, yeah. Why can't Phil Collins

write the records? He can't. Yeah, I think Phil could do it. But I would say Quincy Jones. I mean. There's no argument with Quincy Jones. Yeah, I would just say.

I'm going to tell you Curveball though. Yeah. Who's going to do the choreography? Ooh. Damn. Come on, man. Use a stepper.

Use a real deal stepper. You know what? It would have to be a collective, because in that dancing shit, it's so many people. Come on, come on. Come on, shout them out. It's so many people who made, you know, I'm talking about Fly Styles, Kyle Sands, Josh, Smith. We got LaVell, is it LaVell Franklin? He taught me Thriller. His name is LaVell is it LaVell Franklin who he taught me

Thriller his name is LaVell okay but he taught when you was getting ready for the yeah World Music Awards when I was young sorry I'm forgetting

his last name but you got Super Dave you got man I'm trying to think of everybody I don't know I did this on purpose you trying to get me in

I got to shout out Richard Tone but not even trying but not even trying to get you this is what our podcast is about our podcast is about jamaica i'm thinking too i'm still it's about celebrating it's about celebrating people that aren't always celebrated publicly absolutely absolutely who mean so much to what we do yeah and has have meant so much to what you do because you the guy. They shaped and molded. When it come to that shit. Yeah, 100%.

So, I mean, there's so many different people that I'm leaving out to. So I know they're like, man, he didn't say my name. Yeah. My bad. Yeah, he loves you. He loves you. You know I love you. But at the same time, it would be with that dance and shit,

it would have to be a collective group. It still makes, it's a village that make it, you know, take a village to. to choreograph something crazy. So yeah, we've come to the point. I ain't saying no names. Hey, I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

What was, who you was with, what you did. Don't say shit. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. No, no. We was weird. What you did. Don't say shit. I ain't saying no names. Yeah. No name. All right, cool. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

He said, all right, I got it. I started listening. I'm like, like okay this sounds like i got the answer for this we gotta give you exactly all right right now you are at a very important part of the show yeah it's called i ain't saying no names yeah will you tell us a story funny or fucked up are funny and fucked up the only rule to the game the rules is you can't say no names all right cool well i ain't saying no name yeah come on come on but yeah so there was this artist yeah and this artist wanted to to go out to the club with us like so you know huge artists so i'm like all right cool

meet me at my crib we're're going to go to the club. It's nigga night. It's turn up night. It's going to be another artist in there performing. And that artist's song was the number one song in the country. I'm talking about going crazy. We get in the club. I make sure we got the whole section full of women.

So the person in there, he looking around. The song come on. The other artist is on stage. Start singing a song. The whole building erupt. I'm talking about it erupts. Like everybody, girls in the I section, they going crazy. I look over to this person.

He ain't feeling it. I'm talking about not a smirk, not a head nod, nothing. I turn back to look at the artist, but the next time I turn back to look at the person in my section, they gone. I don't see them. I'm like, what the? Where this nigga done went? I look up, the nigga is on the DJ booth, right next to the artist that's doing the song. And he just said like this. The nigga, when the song goes off, the nigga takes the mic.

Takes the mic. So I'm thinking this artist is about to do some songs. I'm like, okay. He got the itch. Like, man, you know some artists can't take it. You know, they self-centered, though. They got main character syndrome. I'm not one of those.

I know how to be like, oh, this lit here. But I can read it all over this person's face. Get the mic. I'm thinking he about to do his songs or do some shit. I'm like, oh, this has been crazy. He's about to go crazy in here, yeah. The nigga goes on a 45-minute rant. I'm talking about talking. I'm talking about saying all of

everything that about nothing it's like it's it's so just like disappointing like when I was in there I started looking around and then from the club being a yeah everybody turning up maybe holla at some girls what's up it went from that to looking like the waiting room in hell. That's what I felt like it was. Like, yeah! Like, everybody turned into psychopath people. And he was not saying, you know what I'm saying? The topic of what his rant was about was like, what the fuck? Put the music back on.

Like, that's how I felt. So in that club, there's a secret area. There's like a resting area You can go Down at the club So I said I told one of the homies I can't

I don't want to sit up here And hear this shit all night So I'm going downstairs I'ma chill I'ma go smoke this blunt Downstairs Whatever we doing

Boom boom And by the This nigga gonna stop talking Sooner or later So you know I'ma go back up there Afterwards I'm down that motherfucker

For about 20 to 30 minutes And all you still hear Is Over there later so you know i'm gonna go back up there afterwards i'm down that motherfucker for about 20 to 30 minutes and all you still hear is over the over the this last bit it took over the club this is how it ended for me anyway so i get up back into the section half of the girls is gone. Most of the fine girls, they gone. I'm like, man, what the fuck is going on? The last thing I hear, such and such ain't stick they finger in my booty.

I don't even play that way. I said, yeah, I'm out this motherfucker. Look, and I looked to our mutual friend that was that was there i said you gotta be a nigga and stop letting this nigga be like this your ass need to be able to tell your friends stop being a yes man you need to be like look nigga this ain't it you don't say this type of shit and i left the club i ain't even i ain't answering no phone calls i ain't no i'm going home i ain't gonna say no names yeah you can't say whoever was in that club

they like I was there I was there I was there the finger in the booty thing is real no no nasty names

naughty jungle of love brother Chris Brown man when I say we love you before you even go there No nasty names. That's naughty jungle of love. Brother Chris Brown, man, when I say we love you. Before you even go there. Go there. Go. There's another thank you I got to give you. Yeah. One for always keeping your word.

Yeah. Always. Something you've always done from the day I've met you. If you say you're going to do something, you're going to do it. Yeah. You might be late. Yeah, a little late. But, you know. Nigga time. Yeah. You might be late. Yeah, a little late. But, you know.

Nigga time. You know shit happens. Yeah, man. But you always do what you say you're going to do. And I want to thank you for, at the time, I was managing an artist named Love Rants. Yeah. And there was this record that we had. And I had this crazy idea to turn this rap record into an R&B song.

You heard it. And you was like, nigga, I'm coming to do it tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. And you put up in your fast car, you knock the shit out, and this record has lived on to this day. I cannot go to a club and still I'm going to hear the R&B version of Up. Yeah. To this day i cannot go to a club it's still i'm going to hear the r b version of up yeah to this day yeah sending me videos from france sending me videos from japan anywhere anywhere in the world and the fact that you obviously you did that for me because we're brothers but the fact that you

were able to help me make this record that came from the Bay Area. My young boys had had this song and it was blown up and you helped them take the record worldwide. Yeah. I just want to say thank you. No, thank you, bro. And I appreciate you for that. No, I appreciate you.

See, I'm bad with thank yous. Like when people thank me because I'm like, bro, shit, you helped me all in the same token. I look at it like, if you would have called, and if it was a Wack song, we'd be like, I'm like, let's try a different record. Let's try a different record, right. But it's like, you know what a song gonna do. And then at the same time, it's even easier when it's family.

When you got people that's around you that are musically gifted and they do the same thing you do, it's not a conversation like, nah, I can't really do it. Nah, I'm here, whatever you need. So I appreciate y'all, bro. I am upset that this song was on fire. Super flames.

Right? And this nigga wouldn't go nowhere in performing. Well, I was becoming your manager. Yeah, I don't want to hear that shit. He was behind the scenes and, and, and. It was promoters offering him the bag. We had some other shit we had to do, though, man. I don't know.

I don't want to hear that shit. Look at us now. Look at us now. You got records now. I know, but look at us. We'll get into that later. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

They be lonely. What the fuck is we doing with that song? Ask him again. I'm just letting y'all know me and this nigga got a record. Ask him again. It's on the way.all know me and this nigga got a record. Ask him again. It's on the way. All right, cool. It's on the way.

Just letting y'all know that we got a record. It's on the way. Thank you again, brother. No, thank you. Listen, brother, to say we love you would be an understatement. Yes. You already know what that means. My brothers, I love y'all too.

You already know. We don't play no games about Breezy. You know what I'm saying? And that's in real life. That's not music. That's not music. That's not entertainment. That's real life. Yeah.

In real life. And so I think people have known by, you know, all the times I've jumped in the comments to make sure they know how to fuck you niggas up. You fuck around with the fuck around. Yeah. Leave that nigga alone. But my congratulations to you, man, for continuing to work hard, bro. And I think that that's the separation between you and everybody that you've probably seen from the last 20-something years come and go. You just won't stop working. And that is commendable with the success that you've had, that you are still aspiring and still pushing to do more and to be greater.

Like, if I'm telling my son to chase anything, I'm saying, you watch Chris Brown. You watch that journey and you watch him work. And that's how you work. And that's how you find it. It means a lot to me, my brother. Yes, sir. Thank you, bro. We appreciate you, man.

Listen, man, my name is Tank, man. I'm Jay Valentine. I'm crazy. and that's how you find it means a lot to me my brother yes sir thank you bro we appreciate you listen man my name is Tank man I'm J Valentine I'm Greasy and this is the R&B Money Podcast yeah the authority

tell em on all things R&B yeah yeah um one of the greatest to ever do it.

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