The Breakfast Club - Remy Ma & Tami Roman Talk Anger Management, Body Dysmorphia, Snitching Stigmas, New Movie + More

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

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We got Tammy Roman and Remy Ma. What's good? What's good? What up, Rem? What up, Tammy? What's up? Big Remy, not the little one. What up, Tammy?

Hi, Charlamagne. What's happening? How are you? I'm blessed black and highly favored, man. I feel it. Y'all up here promoting movies and stuff? Yes. You know how we do.

We got a new one on Lifetime called Girl in the Closet, which is coming March 11th at 8 on Lifetime. I love Lifetime. Everybody loves Lifetime. Like if you didn't grow up watching Lifetime, I don't know how to feel about you. Yeah, and they're bringing more of us on there. It's about time. It's about time.

Because I've been watching white people's stories for years. Right. Long time. Right. What's the movie about? So, it's based on actual events of this woman who lost her daughter and put her daughter in the custody of her sister who is a very abusive and toxic individual

who takes people and basically kidnaps them for their disability checks. Social Security checks. Listen, my kid get took in by my psycho sister.

She's crazy as hell. They picked Tammy to play. She plays the amazing role of the perfect psychosis, psychotic, maniac. She's prostituting people. She's kidnapping them, stealing checks. She's like the ultimate scammer

on every level. I'm like the heartbroken trying to find my kids. She plays my sister, whose daughter I end up kidnapping. And we've never seen Remy like this before, because this character is so soft. So nice. So sweet. That's real acting.

Y'all be trying to play Remy. And maternal and loving. Wow. Crying. Why y'all be playing Remy like Remy don't do both? Wow. Remy's showing us both for y'all. I'm maternal and loving. Crying. Why y'all be playing R.I.M. like R.I.M. don't do both? R.I.M. has shown us both for years. Listen.

What can I say? R.I.M. is a wife, a mother. You know what I mean? I don't be understanding where does this narrative come from? You don't understand? I don't. I'm at 15 years. I'm about to be married 15 years.

I have wonderful children. And now I'm like. Listen, I heard Remy on the phone with her daughter last night. And the daughter goes, so listen, little girl, why you hang up on me? And I said, to Remy, to Remy. And I said, I wonder where she got that from.

I don't know what you're saying. What? So how was working with Rem? How was working with each other, I should say? Well, here's the thing with Rem. Cool person, loving person, but when she don't want to be bothered, she don't want to be bothered. So she comes on set and it's like, hey, sis.

And then maybe 30 minutes later, we're in a room with people, and Remi's in the corner, like, looking at everybody, like don't want to talk. Watching everything. I'm like, you good? She's like, mm-hmm. So everybody was scared of Remy on the set. There was no reason to be scared. I'm just, Tammy's a social butterfly.

So she's hi, hey, oh yeah. And one time at the barricade, that'smy and i'm in the corner like yeah she's like but i don't know these people you're like i'm here to do my job yeah i don't know them i'm not people you see people yeah nice to meet you how you know that you just met me right that's a good way to be you can't let everybody energy in yeah because people be people be weird. They be weird. I like that. Have you made the intentional transition, Rim, like away from music? Like to say, I'm going to go do other things?

You still owe us an album. Not intentional. And it's actually the 50th anniversary of hip hop. So I was like, perfect time to do it. But I've also incorporated my new acting thing into it. So you got to see when that happens. But I feel like a lot of times with artists when they know you for doing one thing it's hard for them to see you do anything else

they want to keep you we only want to see you do music and so they see you do other things like when i started doing a lot of talk shows and hosts and stuff like that oh that's great you should do that and then when i started doing acts it's like oh it's great but when you talk about it they're like no we just want the album that's it right around the metal detectives like it's crazy you have to show them so that you did you disconnect on purpose then no it's not no problem i still do last year i had to think about it because you know like you have the year in wrap up like what did you do this year and i'm sitting here i'm putting it together of course i never post it because I don't post. I mean, unless you pay me, then I post.

But most of my posts that I plan to post, I start doing that. I write the long caption, I never post it. But I made a reel of all the music that I did last year. Last year, I did a song with Rhapsody, the DJ premiere album. Fire. Love Rhapsody.

Fire. Phenomenal record. We played that. I did a song for Prodigy's album, Rest in Peace to Prodigy. I did a song with Mary J. Blige for the Good Morning Gorgeous deluxe album. I did two songs with Brandy

when I was acting on Queens. They count. I don't care. We were in the studio. We were in the studio. It's on Apple Music. They count. And I also did my husband's record with Wayne and 2 Chainz and Busta.

So I'm like, I did like seven, eight features last year. I didn't do any solo projects. But in all of them, my part was the best part. I'm just saying. Oh, my goodness. We talked about that with the 2 Chainz and Pap record. Sorry, God, but you got body. When are we getting your solo album? Because you've been working on it for. You know what I do? A couple years. We talked about that with the 2 Chainz and Pap record. Sorry, God, but you got body. Let me kill it.

When are we getting your solo album? Because you've been working on it for... You know what I do? A couple years. I do. It's been done. So what you waiting for? So what happened was when I first did it... What happened was?

What happened was when I first did it, I got pregnant. And because I did IVF and everything that we went through, I put everything on hold. I'm like, i don't want to chance it it was a lot on my body stressful yeah it was a lot on my bank account and i was like we want this to work so i literally just put everything music on hold for my pregnancy and for my daughter after i had my daughter now i'm breastfeeding i was like trying to be like this super cool mom i'm gonna do the breastfeeding thing for a couple of months. A couple of months turns into two years and 10 months. Like she was almost

three. She was on a titty at almost three. Listen, that's why she's a genius. But we got in the middle of that, we got caught in COVID. so it was harder to like we know if i was out and about it probably would have never went that long because we was in the house nobody was really going out anywhere it turned to that and then after covid i got into or during covid i got a lot into that we was doing state of the culture then i was hosting the windy show and i just was doing so many other things that music kind of got pushed to the back. I was still recording music still doing different things like any given time hit makers like yeah, what we doing like I'm

saying I work on music, but it's just other things that kind of push it out the way a little bit, but don't be don't try it. Anybody don't I wouldn't recommend that the pen still works the same thing with you Tammy. That's why you disconnected from reality TV just to show them like I want to get into my acting bag Tammy got

so much so much thing coming down the damn pipeline I just didn't want to do reality anymore I wanted to go back to scripted I felt like I had shown enough of my life you know in terms of that format you know y'all all in my business I feel like i've given it all to you there's nothing else to say my kids are grown and so it's like i wanted to go back to scripted i wanted to go back to playing characters and doing the things that i love and doing unscripted in other formats not that ensemble stuff you know what i mean so you know we got caught in the act unfaithful and that's the cheater style show and i love doing that and then all my other projects are scripted so in this one it's based off of a true story correct so like you you jumped in on the deep end because when you do a movie and it's based on a

true story you got to stay real close to the authentic story you can't change it up or none of that like how was that for y'all how did y'all prepare for that um but this is my second um the first movie i ever did that i actually started was the um big 50 del ronda hood story based on a woman out of detroit and she was like super gangster she's selling drugs she's a madam she's doing all these different things and it was crazy because she was actually on set while we were filming. So it was like, you don't want to portray them in a way that that's not unfavorable.

That's unfavorable to them. And I think when I felt in this type of way, I would literally go to sound like, well, right. It was like, what was it? It was like one scene where they had her talking to her kids.

And just for me being around her, I was like, I don't think she would play with these kids like this. Like the way it was written, I was like, if your kids, you told them to go to bed and they were still sitting there. She was like, what? I was like, yeah, that's what I thought. So I would talk to her directly.

He's like, whatever you think, you know, to get more into the character, do that. And it was one scene where we was actually, she had a scene where she was leaving her son. She was missing his games. And I turned to her and she was missing his games and it was i turned to her and she's like on the side crying and i was like i really messed it up i thought i messed it up she was like like because she was crying like she's a very strong woman so crying it didn't look like it looked like she was pissed i'm like okay i messed that up she was like

that was like so touching so doing that really helped me with this one especially considering that the person that i'm playing is such a vulnerable situation like where you lost your child so you know you have to take those things into consideration plus i have a kid so you just factor that in like how would you feel if somebody took your kid yeah i don't think nobody would play with you like that right what people crazy yeah people are nuts people are surprised people know you really like't think nobody would play with you like that, right? People are crazy. Yeah, people are nuts. People are surprised. People know you really like that and they still play with you. The streets have changed.

Yeah, it's a different time. Now, Tammy, how do you have the time to do all the things that you have between Miss Pat's show, the Unfaithful show, movies down the pipeline? How do you find the time and what gives you the drive to still want to do it? I don't sleep. I'm very much like you.

And I just go where the work is because that's what's important to me but that what drives me is my kids you know what i mean like i want to be able to leave my kids something because my mother didn't do it for me her mother didn't do it for her because at that time people didn't know about generational wealth and establishing things and leaving the legacy in the red. Yeah. You know, you already behind the eight ball. So for me, it's just important to change that narrative for my family going forward, my lineage going forward. So that's what, that's what motivates me. I'm going to get, if it's work, I'm getting up and I'm doing it.

I'm two hours of sleep on the plane, whatever it takes, I'm going to be there to get the job done yeah i seen a story uh they were talking about uh tammy doesn't eat right right i've been on uh set with you yeah and i see tammy eat there's juices there's food i'm like like where is it coming from does that ever bother you because people just make up their own stories their own rumors but me being on set i'm like no she eats she eats a lot yeah i eat a lot well the thing is i have a condition that's called body dysmorphia and i've had it since i was 13 years old it is a mental disorder um based on either trauma or genetics and mine is trauma based and so what happens with that is the way I look at myself

and the way people see me are two different things. And I always see myself, unfortunately, as, you know, that show like my 600-pound life, no matter how I look to people, when I look at myself, I can always pick something apart. I always feel like I'm overweight. And so because of that there are moments where it's like i gotta stop eating yeah and then there are other moments where it's like

i'm hungry if that's the case because you feel a certain way about yourself no but but this is this is like different because there can literally be nothing wrong, but I will find something. You understand? Like I can find something. And so with the average woman, it's like, well, I think I want to lose a few pounds. But if they don't, they're okay. Right. You know, with me, it's like, no, I've got to lose the, you know, because I see this fold on my wrist right here.

And it may not even really be there. Yes. But how do you deal? How do you deal? I think this is important. I've never actually heard you even say that you have body dysmorphia. So thank you for that. For a lot of young girls out here.

How do you deal with having body dysmorphia where you're being so critical on yourself and you're really kind of you seeing yourself other than what you actually are which is almost the same way it is with commenters they don't know you they don't hear he just said you eat some people say you don't eat how do you deal with them reflecting how they think you should look onto you how do you deal with hearing yourself being hard on you and hearing the commenters how do you shut it out or how do you do that see the here's the thing when i feel i look good people will comment and say you're too skinny you look like a bobblehead she needs to gain some weight all of that in my mind is a compliment so they're viewing it as girl get your life together i'm seeing seeing bones. And I'm like, really? Yes. Oh, my God. I look like a crackhead? Thank you.

You know, it's like that. She lost one now. Her thing was wild. Don't go that far. The thin, the thin. Anybody saying the word thin? The thinness of it. But so when you're dealing with a person that has body dysmorphia,

you're not helping them by making those type of comments because their mind works in reverse. Right. So like if I had to put anything out there to people, it's like it doesn't take much to be kind. And you don't know what a person is going through. Yeah, mind your business. Yeah, just mind your business.

And don't comment on women's weight. And don't comment on it. And then I'm a diabetic too. So don't comment on it. Or their looks. I'm a diabetic too. So like all of that comes into play for me. You know what I mean? So it's just kind of like, leave me alone. Let me deal with my issue and try to, you know,

work my way through it to the best of my ability, which every day is a struggle. I'm glad you're sharing your story. Do you feel the need to explain yourself just because people comment? I have. And so once I've explained it, whatever their comments are, then that's just, you know, do what you feel you need to do to get it off your chest. Because that's what everybody feels. How do you fix that? Like, is there a cure for that? No, no, no, no. You can go through therapy, but there is no cure. And so you just have to learn how to manage and retrain your mind to not overthink

and really process what you're seeing versus what you feel you see, if that makes any sense. You know what I mean? So I've been in therapy for years, and I still deal with it. It never goes away. Well, I think you are, with me hearing this, now that that's your truth, I think you are possibly one of the strongest women in reality TV

because being on reality TV, you are living your whole life there and people are critiquing everything about you, your looks included. And not only them, you to yourself. You see yourself on camera and it's like, oh, I look bigger. Oh my God. Like each season I would drop like 15, 20 pounds because it's like, I'm looking at last season and I see what the weight was. And so now not being in reality TV, is it helping some to where you are just living your own life? You're the owner of it. And you don't have that reflection from reality TV being in the real world of hollywood now and not in reality world well i think the worlds are synonymous right

reality tv people are still looking at you and judging and then when they watch you on a tv show they're still looking at you and judging but it's not as personal because when we see you acting we could almost think that you could be slimmer for the role yeah you know and we don't they get a little less into that because you know reality fans are kind of crazy they really are invested in you like they are your sister your auntie whatever i think that would be the case if um i had never done reality tv and if it was always just scripted then it's like oh these are the things she's doing for a role but because so many people have been a part of my life already they know the story it's like this was the girl who got her mouth wired in 1993 you've seen me battle this right forever it's just that nobody

knew what i was actually dealing with exactly so yeah i mean i just let people do and say what they feel they need to do and say and I tried You know, my husband is a good support system for me to try to keep me just on track Good person and a lot of people don't know that because they see the reality Yeah, but as a person outside of that you are a beautiful person inside out me My wife love you and you know, we got a lot of love for you But you can't win or lose. Sometimes they'll say you're too thin, but then they'll be like,

oh, Tammy be Photoshopping her ass in pictures. I ain't got no BBL. I'm going to fix my pictures. Right. Because if you want to see me in the raw, I got a whole page called Bonnet Chronicles for that. You see that? You get it all how you want to live.

But on my page, it's going to be edited down to the ground. But I do not have a BBL. I did get my ass done. I got some shots in my ass way back when. And, you know, I'll tell anybody the truth. I'm going to fix what I feel I need to fix because of who I am and what I deal with anyway So if I don't like something I'm gonna fix it Good to see Remy and Tammy together, especially this grown evolved version because ten years ago. This would be the tag team champion of the world

You know, we're like the same person. We just handle it differently. Nah, I don't think that's the truth. Because Tammy's triggered too, right? You see this new Tammy? No, no. So I was on set. We were on set on Facebook.

And it's a cheetah show. And I'm on a couple of episodes with Tammy helping her out. That's my partner. Okay. And this one girl says something to Tammy. And the whole Tammy changed. Tammy was motherly, like, you know, you. And this one girl said something to Tammy and the whole Tammy changed. Tammy was motherly like you know you need to change this. You need to look out for this.

And then Tammy's like got on the edge of the chair. What'd you say? No because she said don't make me get up out. She said that to me and don't make me get up out this chair. So I said if you get up out that chair you're going get what you want right on the edge

of the seat like this i dare you the host then turn yeah everybody was like oh my god i don't think you should do that one of the last times i'm like talk crazy nobody really told crazy me in person they do it like away from me i'm'm going to be honest. I haven't really had anybody physically in my face do anything crazy. Do you miss it? No, I don't. I'm tired of paying people money.

Right. Like, I don't know. I'm tired of that. I'm tired of that. I'm tired of getting locked up. I got to go in there and talk to these people. I don't like that. That's not cool.

But I tell people all the time you can i've changed i'm like i've changed it meaning that i've changed the way i react to things the way that uh i even receive things because certain things that used to really piss me off doesn't really bother me as much but be very clear i'm still the same person and she's like right underneath the surface. Like deep down inside. No. I'm like a paper cut away.

I nicked my hand on the red sheet. I'm like, what? Like you got to be very careful. But I feel like I give people respect. Like I'm not a bully. I don't just go. If somebody did something, if I'm doing something, somebody did something. I'm not that person. I feel the same way.

No, because most of the time, it's my reaction. People never pay attention to what caused it. Correct. And I don't want to say, because I don't think I overreact. Other people think. It's like, you step on my foot, on my shoe, I want to amputate your whole leg. I don't want to be like, I'm going to step on your shoe back. No.

It's no tit for tat. It's like tit for tit. Don't make me do it until you're done because I overdo it. You don't get to choose my reaction. People want to do things to you and be like, oh, but I don't even think it was that serious. You shouldn't have done nothing.

They can't judge me serious to you. You have a four-year-old. I love her to death. That's about to start playing sports and go to school. And she's probably going to get into an incident like all kids do. It's up. I already told her that. What does it mean?

I already told her the meaning of cousins. Because she's where she's at. We live not too far from you. She has a wonderful school. But she's very close with her cousins that still live in queens she will tell you quick i'm watching my cousins come up there's the power of cousins you got to know how it is but she's she's so different she's so sweet like she's me without all the trauma that i went through because i feel like i was actually a

really nice person before the world just started fucking with me and I had to prepare myself to deal with the world. And I think that's what a lot of people, a lot of people we don't have. There's some people that I think started out evil. Let me not say everybody, but for the most part, most people start out a certain way. And then the things that you go through in life,

it tends to make you be like, okay, in order to protect myself from this, this is how I got to be. In order to survive through this, this is how I got to be. And a lot of things that I went through in my life, I couldn't be walking around like, hey, hi, you want to make cupcakes? No, it wouldn't work. Like, that's just not going to happen. But I do feel like me and her, her dad, my husband, we installed all the good things. It's so crazy because we talk about it all the time.

She has no idea that this world is horrible. She literally walks in the store, just throws everything in the cart. She doesn't understand the concept of money. She's like, it's 12 o'clock at night. Come on, I want to have fun. Go to bed. No, I need more. See, even that is different for her to say, no, it's Like, go to bed. No, I need more. Like, she just, everything is fun. See, even that is different for her to say, like, no, it's time to go to bed.

Like, that's a different Remy than the Remy we know. You know, when she's mommy Remy. Because me, I'm like, why are you up at 12? Like, you know, like, my kids is in the bed at 9, and I'm not playing with it. I want her to be a kid for as long as she can be a kid. Yeah. I feel like. You're a gentle parent? A lot of, nine and i'm not playing i want to be a kid for as long as she could be a kid yeah i feel like you're a gentle parent a lot of no i'm not i'm not one of those like oh i'm gonna talk to you go in the corner quiet time when i do the ram she's like fine fine not fine fine

you're not gonna be falling out in the mall doing all that crazy right that's what we're not going to be falling out in the mall doing all of that crazy stuff. That's what we're not doing. It's definitely. But I feel like with me, with my siblings, a lot of my friends that grew up, we all had to grow up way sooner than we should have. We didn't really get a chance to be a kid. I want her to be a kid for as long. I want her to play with dolls. I want her to watch cartoons. I want her to have fun.

I don't want her to feel like, because it happens it's gonna happen eventually i want to feel that pressure of the world prematurely right are you the same with pilar i'm the exact same way and you know i mean i used to be a little tough too back in the day and but having a child my daughter's also four um it just automatically changes something in you you know what i mean like when i i went to anger man management for like maybe like six sessions out of what i got up from it was i don't the power is given to you as soon as i react so i almost get like a turn on in order for you to say something to me and me not even react to it you know my react my reactions now i'll walk away from something yeah and i'll get in my car like yeah i did that even though back in the day i have to show you what i'm gonna do me not reacting or handling in a

different way it's it's more powerful for me now so it's it it does and that's good because i haven't managed to be classes made me mad i don't know what's the it has to be in the height like this is stupid. Only thing I learned is my physical cues. Now I be like, oh, I'm getting tight. My hands are sweating. Why didn't he tell you? Because they sitting there, like, it's just dumb to me.

Because she doesn't want to hold you there. I want to be mad when I talk to her. But here's what really makes her angry. But he tells me, see, that's the thing. The first thing mine told me was, your anger, you being pissed, all an emotion and it's okay. So first you have to agree with what your body is doing and what you're feeling is okay. Then you can recognize it. Then you can say, okay, these are triggers that caused me to react this way.

I was knowing my physical cues because I used to be mad. I'd be sitting there and I'd be like, oh shit, my hands sweating. Yeah, it's going down. Noses flaring. That's right. Foot tapping. It's up. Like I just be watching them. So you skipped the whole part of like, I'm jealous.

I'm just being honest. Man, this was part of my parole. I didn't go there because I was like, oh, that's what you learned. So you sent me there and let me see all the stuff that I do before. Because I used to do this like, this when I go from zero to 100. I really don't. I be like zero. But that's how you stop yourself at 40.

That's what I'm saying. 42. You know what I'm saying? You're 98. Oh, my gosh. I always thought it was zero to 100. It's really not. I'll be gradually getting there.

And that's how you stop yourself. But that's what she said. She's not stopping. What's so mad. That's it. You're supposed to see the cue so you can know it's stopped. You can know it's stopped. She's a work in progress. I'm not working on it.

Jesus. Rim like the Incredible Hulk. Like, don't make me angry. I'm like you. Now, I got to ask. I heard you on JCD talking about when Cardi B changes her profile pic to you. When did you see that? And how does that make you feel?

Because you just wake up and all of a sudden, you trending again. It don't make me feel like I really don't be on social media as much as people probably would think I do. Like, if I'm posting something, I'm literally in the moment. I'm like, oh, yeah, we're all posting. Or somebody's paying me to post. I don't really be. But why did she change it? I don't know.

I don't know what's tea. Because I feel like there was some tea rooted in that. was beefing with nikki at the time and when they were beefing she posted her profile pic she posted her cousin she basically like don't make me go get my cousin okay so that's what i'm saying she was cardi was in support of remy like of course okay got it got it i wasn't even doing nothing got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it got it of women in rap are popping right now it's a wonderful thing yeah and it's just like yo people would love to hear your voice in the mix i think that's so thank you i appreciate that you're not gonna say yes you know what it is if you're not constantly in people's face and giving them new music my thing is i don't feel like that i have to validate myself by doing it. I am who I am. Like I don't count like people like,

Oh man, men lie, women lie. Numbers don't, Oh, men lie, women lie. And numbers don't always mean anything. Yeah.

Numbers lie too now. And even that they lie, they not always the end all say all. Right. Like you have all the numbers in the world. Like when everybody know what it was up, when it come to me and I'm okay with that, I don't feel like,

Oh, I got to drop a project to show people. I got, okay with that. I don't feel like, oh, I gotta drop a project to show people I got, I'm cool. I'm all right. I live great. I'm cool, calm, collected. I look good. I ain't stressed out.

Right. These people, they be stressed out. Music will stress you out. I be looking at them, I be like, mm, she stressed. You can see the stress holes in the face. Yeah. You can't. What rapper is out right now that you respect? Like, since we are, look, we didn't ask you about five different times.

Where your music at? Who would you say right now could possibly hold a candle to you? Like, possibly Doja Cat? I don't like to talk to the mic. I don't like to hold the candle idea. Doja Cat. I don't like Doja Cat. Wow. Talk to the mic. Talk to the mic. I don't like the hold the candle idea, but I think everybody in their own respect has something that I like about them.

Yeah. Like, I like, I love, actually, I love Lola. Lola Brooke. I like her. Like, she's just so energetic and just seems fun and she's really, like, enjoying her moment. I like Glow. really like enjoying her moment. Um, I like glow.

I like Lola. I like, um, I like Lotto. I like spice. I like everybody for different reasons. I'm at one point. It was a point where it seemed like everybody was doing the exact same thing.

Oh, it still feels like that a little bit to me where you can kind of, okay, this is her sound and this is what she sounds like. And this is like, it's people starting to carve out their little niches. And I think we need that.

I've never been a hater. I've never been somebody, I've always been like, yo, I don't know no rappers that started out with money. We all come from the bottom. People be talking about, I got this and that.

We all got money. Some got a little bit more than others, but we all came from nothing. So anything that you're doing right now is a plus from where you came from and where you could have been so i'm just happy to see all of them i don't really have a favorite because i when i see them it's the same love and sympathy i'm like oh my god i love you i hope you're enjoying it and i'm always trying to i'm the one that's always trying to make sure you do this are you staying outside of this save some of your money buy a house don't like i'm saying i try to do some of the things that i wish people would have told me earlier on

and um that that i think that's what it's about a lot of times people feel like it's always about who can hold the torch to you or whose competition who's that nah it's not about that like i wish i had somebody that came and was like yo i see what you're doing i appreciate it yo let me tell you something let me put you with this lawyer real quick. Let me put you with this financial advisor. Yo, are you into stocks and this and this? Maybe you should look into this. Like, just to give people a different, because we don't have all that. But that's people that are secure.

Right. That want to share knowledge and information. When you're insecure, it goes back to how you feel like you got to validate your position and hold court. You know what I mean? To make sure people remember, this is what I did. This is how. this is how you know secure you probably shouldn't even be in this business because you you'll be ready to you meet the common insecurity has never stopped anybody you know people's just gonna get up in there and get in where they fit in but i think with music in particular i am hoping that it gets back to that era that i grew up in where everybody had their own lane.

Because you got a rapper in your house. I do. Slash actress. I do. Yes, Jazz. Shout out to Jazz, who loves you, by the way. You already know that. I love her, too.

She's in the movie with us. Yes, she is. She plays my daughter, Angela. Your daughter plays her daughter. Oh, that's cute. I love that. But the pin game is what I'm used to with rap. And I feel like all the women were sounding the same and it's got to be a

twerk situation, you know, and I grew up on like Latifah with unity and Eve with rough rider, you know, and light was doing her thing. And, you know, we had all those low Kim was sexy, you know, like we don't have enough diversity in women in rap now. And I would like to see us get back to that. You still got that, though. And I think even with some of them look the part but still can spit like a JT.

You know what I mean? Like, JT can spit to me. Glorilla can spit to me. You know what I mean? Rhapsody, of course. That's a whole other topic. That's a different thing. Can you spit your gum out, please?

Can you spit your gum out? You chewing the whole interview. You're going to wait until now. The interview almost over. Why you going to make us spit the interview out you spit your gum out, please? This is the League of Her Own. Can you spit your gum out? You chewing the whole interview. You're like, spit your gum out. Now the interview almost over. Why you don't make us spit the interview out? Spit the gum out now. All right. Thanks, Rem.

So, Rem, when you got, you know, this new industry, it seems like everybody's telling on each other, right? Snitching immediately. When you got locked up, I'm sure you could have told on some people and not did the time. I know the fuck I couldn't have. Yeah, who else was involved? What do you think? Those people were both involved.

That's not even an option. Like, who's talking about? Okay, maybe not. What do you think about this new world and the snitching and how it ever goes now? You're crazy. What's wrong with him? He's a son of a cop. You got to know.

You got to know what snitching is first. No don't i don't discriminate this oh you're a civilian so it's not just like if you're telling somebody you're telling you're cooperating that's just that and i feel like a lot of times people like well you know they they're a civilian and they're like if you're a civilian stay hanging with civilians and be around civilians don't be a civilian and hang out with people that are like that don't do it no but try to justify what you did because you know y'all know i wasn't really like that and then people that y'all this is what y'all do and y'all in that line now really no keep these people that's really not built like that away from you because when the pressure's on they got full and i blame i blame

both parties you shouldn't have been hanging with them and you should have had them around so you're saying don't make yourself a witness don't make it don't even be over there don't make yourself a witness because now what luckily we live in times where witnesses can just walk around party post where they at and it happens like and i remember a time where your family wouldn't even took your family like uh-uh we don't deal with him because they didn't want any problems whereas you have to protect yourself and i and i tell anybody that like that him because they didn't want any problems. Whereas you have to protect yourself. And I, and I tell anybody that like, that's cause I can't. Tell people how to live.

You don't know what their situation, some people they're in certain situations because that's all they know. That's all they have. Like you got certain parts of the world where you either gonna be in this gang or you gonna be in the ground, like which side are you on? Like, that's just the culture that, that they are growing up in and that they're living in. All right. If that's what it is you got to be smart enough to know that you can't just have anybody in your circle because there will come a time where they're going

to be given an option and it's every there's no loyalty there's no codes every man is for themselves and and a lot of the stuff unfortunately that we were taught growing up don't snitch don't do this don't do that we was taught wrong like, don't snitch. Don't do this. Don't do that. We was taught wrong. Like they taught us like they really had us jammed up thinking like, but for most of my life, people, that's why people have this perception of who they think I am because you couldn't show feelings.

You couldn't show emotions. You got to hide everything. People can only see this part of you or they're going to try you or whatever. And that's not really how you get through life. Once you see what the world really is outside of the hood outside of poverty you don't need to be like that you can be vulnerable you can you know express how you are you can move accordingly to the way the world works but unfortunately for a lot of people that are like us that look like us that's not their reality

and they getting jammed up and they giving them a whole bunch of time like i was lucky enough to you know do as much time as i did and come home still with a little bit of my sanity how much i had before i went in but um a lot of people they don't make it out like so many people that we don't hear about die in prison get strung out on drugs to where they are zombies or they come home and never recover and they go back because you've been ripped out of society for so long you don't know how to even function yeah like when i came on i know how to use a phone i've never seen an iphone in my life i've never seen instagram twitter and i had to learn all of these things like on the fly while i'm in it that's crazy so imagine somebody who's

been you tell it i'm telling okay i feel like if i'm involved with you and I know the dirt you're doing, and so I'm clear that I'm a participant in that. Something go down, I got to take my L. But if I don't know and you just kind of. It happened. If something happened and I don't know and now they trying to jam me up, I'm telling. I'm not going to jail for some shit that i didn't

know i was even a party to like who's gonna do that so remy that's fine right i'm saying if we if we rolling out together and I know that this is what it is and we doing this even if I didn't partake in whatever the crime may be but I know and I'm hanging with you and something go down no I'm not telling on you but if we rolling down the car down the road and I don't know you got a couple keys in the back and now they like these your keys I'm like no the they not my keys. I don't know what's going that's not my I don't know who's it is. I may be like this I may be like this I don't know who it is but I know it ain't mine. I'm saying it's not mine it's not the same as saying it's hers. That's what Gunna did Gunna said it's not mine is not the same as saying it's hers. That's what Gunna did.

Gunna said it's not mine. Gunna was in the car. Gunna said the stuff in the car wasn't mine. What's wrong with that? Okay, but I feel like that's not the same. People have to understand. And then you have to know your rights. I feel like a lot of times people just be scared

and they be talking and the goal, let me just drop something. Go ahead. Go ahead. The goal, because I tell people this all the time, everybody that is in prison is not guilty. That's right. The same way that everybody that's walking around in these streets is not innocent.

Y'all think all the guilty people are in jail right now. And then how many times have we protested for wrongdoings and you think every cop every prosecutor every d.a every judge got it right every time but every single person that's in jail so that's the first thing that you need to understand that everybody is and it's not always exactly as it happened because think about when you tell the story you're gonna try to put it to the way that it favors to you people don't go in there tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them while they bend it they squeeze it out a little bit so a lot of things don't be exactly how it is also their job is to convict

if you look at any da any prosecutor anything the federal government their their bragging rights is such a such percentage conviction rate so that means you don't want a 20% conviction rate that means you trash they want the high 99% 90% conviction rate they're not trying to find out if you're innocent or not they're trying to get a conviction and when people

understand that they will understand like I've seen so many times where people like yeah and they wasn't trying to find the truth. When the last time you, when have you ever seen cops with a pen and paper? Excuse me. Yes, ma'am. Did you see anything of a magnifying glass little hat with a cap on both ends?

You don't. They sit there and wait for somebody to call them. Right. Tell them information. They lurk on social media. Listen to rap lyrics. All these different things. They're not doing no real investigation work.

So what's the gem? What's the gem? What's your challenge? How to convict? Yeah, it's up to you to prove you're innocent. You have to prove that you're innocent. They don't have to prove that you're guilty. So you're saying because you have to prove that you're innocent,

you don't have to snitch on nobody to do it. You don't have to tell nobody. Because either way, it's not about the truth, the truth. They don't care about the truth. They do not care. They want to convict. I feel it's crazy that you could say, I did a crime, you did a crime, and she did a crime. We all did it together.

But if she goes and tells them everything that we did, she goes home and we go to jail. That's right. But Tammy's trying to say she ain't going to jail for nobody. We all going. But not if we did the crime together. If we did the crime together, then we just all going to be up in here together. But if y'all did the crime and I did not do it, the way the law works, we can all do it together.

One of us could decide that I'm going to tell everything. I'm going to go home and do a little bit of time. And everybody else is going to be up in here. How is that? You have people out here that be like, yeah, I'm going to do this, this, and this. And if I get caught, I'm telling. And'm gonna go home that's yeah that's not the same that is insane and that's how it works the way you speaking on this one particular case it's clear who they want

yes correct it's very clear the person that they want so you could go you could go you could go you go home to your kids you go home to your kids, you go home to your kids, you go home. This is what we want. And that's okay. And that's justice. Nah, I'm not, I'm never jacking that. I'm never, I'm never. And people don't never point these things out. They be like, well, they shouldn't have been doing this. You rich, you shit.

Like, just cause you got money, like it's worse when you got money. Because what happens when you have money, everybody that you know, you still got cousins that live in the hood, siblings that ain't really got like people ain't jeff bezos rich where they could take their whole family and buy an island somewhere so you still have certain affiliations and you will be surprised the situations that you get put into because people look at you as a target as a human atm machine and you get jammed up and if you rail and you stand up and you were bored up on certain principles, you're going to find yourself sitting in the courtroom like this, taking an L,

while everybody else acting like they innocent and acting like they good and living their life. And unfortunately, it mainly affects our community. All I'm hearing is why people highly request Remy Ma to be the co-host on The Breakfast Club. You know what I mean? Oh, we tried. But Remy wants to know how much we paying.

Put the dollar up. No, I'm serious. I'm not joking. Remy remy wants to know how much we paying put the dollar no i'm serious i'm not joking how much i got serious like hold up let me tell you there you go here it is here it is i did a lot of stuff in my life like seriously almost everything and i thought about it i thought about it with this like damn is this one of those situations almost everything that was life-changing in my life i did for free when i did annie every mix i was a teenager i was straight out of high school i begged my a and r to get me the instrumental i put my verse on i was like just let them hear it changed my life when i did lean back i didn't even have a record deal we went to studio we was at calla house in miami stole joe's verse off of it put myself on the song changed my life when i did all the way up i don't even think we signed paperwork to this day i might have to call joe it was just an idea if it comes out good we're gonna

rock with it if it don't nobody will never know we did it changed my life all the little times that i was doing wendy and stuff like that they pay me but they ain't paying me you know what i'm saying changed my life so i feel like i paid my dues i did a lot of things like the reason why people request because i'm really good at what i do absolutely this is this is i i feel like not so many people that look like us if you look at all the talk show people and the talk show hosts they're all 50 plus they melanin challenged they white okay if if they're not they not really swaggy just a little like you know uptight because they just how you feel you're supposed to dress if you're on tv and ain't really been through nothing i've been i've been i've been

married i've been i've had children i had a kid when i was a teen i had a kid since i've been an adult i've been incarcerated i've been famous i've been poor i've had rich i've been poor after i was rich like and all of these things are make you and i'm kind of really smart a lot of people think rappers are dumb and We're really not. Well, the wack ones are. Let me just say the wack ones. But when you meet the Eminems and the Jay-Zs and the Jay-Zs, they are really smart. Absolutely.

And they are also, most of them are really funny. That's how they come up with. So all of these things, and that's what comprises the amazing reminisce that you see sitting here. The Breakfast Club can't change your life. Right, yeah. So if we want to repair, she needs some bread.

So they can't change your life or they need to pay you what you're worth. First of all, I got to sit here and look at this guy. I still don't like Envy. He got this dog in my house. It protects your house. Wait, you really have a dog in her house? No, her husband called me one day. We're moving to Jersey.

And says, hey, you know, sometimes we travel. And I said, well, I have a dog. Let me give you my dog. Gucci man said that's a punk ass dog. For protection. Y'all got a punk ass dog in your house? I got a dog to protect the house. I didn't understand the purpose of him giving the number for the dog

when he had already gave us the number for the security system. Why you need that? It was like, it's just extra security. Yeah, it's a twofer. It's a twofer. giving the number for the dog when he had already gave us the number for the security system it was like it's just extra security that's it the first thing they called they moved to jersey i said this is a good security system they've got cameras everywhere you can see it everywhere in the phone they got motion sensors they will secure your house but just in case by the way keep my dog no i said just in case you're out of town the rim's out of town and you want extra protection, here's a dog that will bite somebody's head off. This dog was $27,000. What kind of dog is it?

They have a Belgian Malinois. No, that's what y'all have. We got the common. We have the German Shepherd. I have a German Shepherd too. The German Shedder is what I like to call it. That's what my wife calls it. Real quick, Rem, because you got to go back to something.

So you never got paid for none of those classic verses. I Got my publishing because I wrote my own material and I got my royalties but like as a feature fee, no Wow, and well, that's a lesson in that and then all the way up and lean back We're both my songs like people always say fat Joe's like but it's actually if you ever look as bad Joe and Remy wild like It's not a feature. But, yeah, and I was okay with that. Yeah. I was okay with it.

And I tried to explain to people all the time, like, everything is not about. So, when they was calling me about this, I was like, is this one of those situations where I should just do it? Fine. We'll talk about something to promote. And I told them I was doing my rap battle thing, and I wanted to come last month before my rap battle came. But I guess I had some other whack people, and that was nowhere near as good as me. Nobody told us that. Portia was on the schedule. Nobody told us that.

Envy is shady. Nobody told us that. We would have definitely had room up here. I'll come later on when we have something to do. Anytime you want to come and tell me. Anytime you want to come as well. These are my family members. I've known MB for a very, very long time.

Don't tell any old stories. Stop. Thank you. And the same thing with Charlamagne. I'm going to tell them. He risked my life. He had me in the sticks. It was no roads.

Somerton, South Carolina. Dirt roads. What happened? Club New Bob. He hired me to do a show, and I didn't think there was no roads. While we driving on mud roads? What's Juk Joint over there?

I don't know. I don't know. We didn't have a kitchen. We didn't have a kitchen. We just flew them somewhere. I was a little non-talented. We talking about like, this literally might have been 20 years ago, yo.

Yo, Juk Joint. Literally. He booked me somewhere. It put me on Southwest. On Southwest? Southwest. And now you in the dirt road. What is Southwest?

Nah, what is Southwest? It was like 08. It was like 08. It was lit though. 07, 08, this was like oh wait oh seven oh eight this was no me yeah i was going by that no i had like five oh five oh six five oh six i know you guys gotta go i know you got tv so yeah yes yes yes yes so please everybody don't forget to uh check out girl in the closet which is on lifetime march 11th at eight at eight please check us out check us out amazing women and all her talents.

Are you going to tell them about your production thing and how you have all these movies that you're doing? I do have all these movies. Thank you, Rani. She's making them. I'm behind the scenes too.

She hired me. Yes, I did. Yes. We're doing another project together and then Envy, I can't wait for people to see you this season. You're playing on camera?

Yes. Here is my co-host. Yes. season on. You're playing on camera? Yes. He is my co-host. Yes. Hurrah. Courtney Act. Yes. Back on TV. And we're so excited to have him.

And let me tell you some of the gems he drops because people are like, why is he that, you know, like, or whatever. This dude, like, on some for real, like, relationship expert, like, here's the truth of how this can happen in your life what you should do he's got experience he has experience in it but that's the best place to speak from right like life experience and the wisdom of all that and so everybody really shut up I'm playing like everybody like No no no It's good it's good so yeah

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