The Breakfast Club - Replay: Black Effect Festival Recap, MJ Magic & What the Critics Missed

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

Loren LoRosa is fresh off the Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta—and she’s giving you the full behind-the-scenes experience. From viral moments with your favorite podcasters and celebs to the real-life love versus online narratives (yes, we’re talking Clarissa & Papoose), this episode captures the culture in motion. Plus, Loren breaks down the Michael Jackson biopic that’s dominating globally—why it feels like a warm hug, what the critics got wrong, and the major pieces of MJ’s story she wishes we saw on screen. Is a sequel necessary? Absolutely.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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were to enslave people. Listen to Rebel Spirit season two on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a home guy that knows a little bit about everything and everybody. You know what I'm not if you're going to lie about that, right? Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Lauren La Rosa, and this is another episode. of the latest with Lauren La Rosa. This is your daily dig on all things,

pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Oh, my God. Guys, let's check in behind the scenes of the grind. Back on the grind. So if you cannot tell right now, I am fighting for my life to even get through this podcast episode. We had such a great time in Atlanta.

I oh my god this was my second year at the black effect podcast festival that charlemagne throws for black effect the podcast network which is how you guys are even able to hear me right now and shout out to dolly bishop who's president of the network who you know she is like superwoman of that whole production of the event um this past weekend it went down in at palmy yards um man there were so many people that popped out like um little duval uh silo and k michel sat down with drink champs so noriega and djfn um carisha young miami sat down with crystal renay hastlet uh keep his positive sweetie also of zatina papoosa and clarissa came uh clissa wasn't even like a part of um the live podcast but she did end up on stage because envy and charlemagne brought out um like just some of the celebrities who were there so little duval performed because he recently celebrated the fact that um living my best life went platinum his song i'm living my best life and i thought that that was dope but to see the crowd react to him in real time i've never been to any of his comedy shows or like you know i know he

does little duval day in person i've only seen things online right oh my my god people went crazy when he came on the people I thought it was just my mom that loved him but the people love him down but the people love him down um but yeah so Clarissa also popped out um with Papoose and I saw that going viral online or whatever and I feel like every time Clarissa goes viral now, ever since she began dating papoos, it's always for, you know, people having a conversation about what they don't like about her when it comes to her look or her relationship or whatever. And what happens in real time, like in real life with Clarissa is a lot different than what

happens online. So she came to the festival, she was backstage. Which, Cleversa has always been one of the nicest people to me that I've, you know, like, celebrity wise that I've met. You know, when I first got back on the breakfast club and things were kind of going to look crazy and everything was happening. Clarissa had actually reached out to me then and just, you know, sent me some like positive words and, you know, like, you know, not to live in a noise. And oh my God, like, yes, same, sis, same. because I watched people react to her in real time when she pulled up at the festival and she went and walked through the black marketplace

of the black vendors that were set up and fans were going crazy and not only for her they were going crazy I mean the whole day was full of so much love and people were really locked in but like fans were really excited to see her and honestly to see Papoose with her and I think it's because you see it online so much

so to be a, you know, a spectator of the sport, no pun intended, because we're talking about the female quote here, and then to see, you know, her in real life, um, with Papoose as they, you know, walk throughout the event. Like, they could barely get through the crowd of people. Um, that's how much love they were getting at the event, honestly. But she came on on stage. You have Cheryl Underwood on stage as well, DJMV and, um, Charlomaine on stage. And they're just having a conversation real quick, like, we're real quick, just bringing a bunch of the you know the people that are intended and um let's take listen to Cheryl Underwood's conversation with Clarissa i like you statues and you chocolate me

pass goodbye for you guys thank you very much are you single no i want papoos okay hold on no how you don't know that girl she's got to sleep on you Cheryl wait wait but y'all start talking that who's up there right now i know that but wait a minute respect makes you ask the static. I don't know how I missed that moment. Like in real time. I don't know what they had me backstage prepping for, but I am pissed that I missed that I missed that in real time.

But me, yeah, it was just such a great time. C.Lo and Kay Michelle talked to Nore and DJ F&O Drink Champs. And their conversation ranged from a lot of different things. To be honest, I wish that they had more time. And I wish that they had done one interview, with one person versus two people within 40 minutes. Like I feel like they didn't really get a chance to dive as deep as they normally do on the show, which I understand, you know, when you watch a live podcast, you're not,

like, you're not going to get everything that you would normally get when you watch them because it's live, timing is different. Like, you know, but I do wish they did one person versus the two, even though both of those people are great interviews for drink chants. But yeah, so they had a conversation and they were talking to Celo about whether Atlanta is running hip hop right now. And the way he hesitated, I'm like, yo, he wouldn't say no so bad. But like, as like OG Atlanta, he can't.

Let's take a listen. I think, no, I think, it's like a, having an intermission right now. I think everybody at the concession stand, you know what I mean? At the concession stand. You know, but, you know, the vibe, man, it just. It's supposed to be transcendent, transferable, touch the next man, touch the next person, the next region, the next wave style, trend, et cetera. You know what I mean? Like, inspire it.

You know what I mean? Like a lot of the times, man, the industry is like a roller coaster ride. Let's say six flags, you want to ride the screen machine. You're going to wait in line. You're going to be anticipating, you know, get on, ride it. You're going to be scared. You're going to be three of about a minute and a half straight or however long it is. Right? It's like, damn, I waited forever for some shit that just lasted a minute and some seconds, right?

Or it seems. And you leave out, you go back around, and the line is just as long, if not longer. And if you want to ride that ride again, you want to ride that ride again, you got to get back in line. That's it. And I think life is a lot like that, but the industry is especially like that. So let it be. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. They always look over Memphis. I feel like Memphis is having a time and he'll talk. right now and we do have three six mafia you know and I feel like a lot of the sound of that type of hip hop it was you know took for them they really didn't get I feel like all the acknowledgement three six mafia deserves when it comes to hip hop and

being in the south and right now I feel like the hip hop artist from Memphis right now Glorilla you got Poochati you still got dog you got Kenny money you get You've got finesse. You know, you have some really talented lyricists right now that everyone is listening to and they have that old school Memphis sound. And then they throw, you know, they throw it to Kay Michelle because Kay Michelle jumps in.

She's having a conversation about the fact that Memphis is where it's at right now musically in the moment that they're having. But one of the people that she bigs up is Ken the man, who is a female rapper who I've been like, I love Ken the man. Ken the Man pops her S-H-I-T, okay? Ken the Man is a, you know, she's a young female rapper. I felt like I thought the mass is new Ken the Man, but Norie and DJ F and didn't know who she was.

But Camichael showed a lot of love. Let's take a little bit. Ken the Man, if you're going through some right now, ladies, you can put on Ken the Man from top to bottom and go through it. Like when you would put on their trainer, when you would put on them type rookies, Ken and the Man is that right now and watching her grow, watching her shows grow. Like, love her as a new artist. You also had, you know, Mona, don't call me white girl. On the stage, you had the 520 podcast, you had grits and eggs.

Like, it was just good to see some of your favorite people that talk about all the things all the time in person. Like, and I, as a fan of podcast and a fan of some of these people, I went out and sat in the crowd and watched as much as I could. Hosting this year, because I hosted it along with DJ NV & Charlemagne, hosting this year was a bit different. Last year, I got to introduce the panel, and then I was able to actually kind of like watch the show a bit more and, you know, like experience, like the crowd a bit more.

I didn't really get that much of an opportunity this year to do that. Although I tried, so shout out to all the lowriders that I saw at the podcast festival. But yeah, just an amazing day. I think it's just beautiful to see something grow in real time. And again, I just started attending last year, and they've been doing this before that. And I'm talking about growth. So I'm excited to see where they go next year and how even bigger it gets next year.

But one of the things that I love is that I felt like the audience was so locked into the conversations this year, which is amazing because you learn so much getting to watch the pros do it in real time. And then getting to listen to some of the panels and all that. So I just hope that everybody was able to take away something and people enjoyed themselves and had a great time. Thanks to everybody that bought my merch. The Brown Garlander merch was in the Black Effect store. Thank you guys so much.

There is a cold running live right now. Just because I felt so much love around the merch, I wanted to say thank y'all. So I'm making some things even cheaper for y'all to shop. It's code BGGG-G-L-O-B-G-L-E on Browngroundin.com to get some percentages off of the merch, shopping at checkout. And that is why I'm here struggling right now doing this podcast because I am exhausted.

My body is exhausted. My voice is exhausted. But I'm just grateful to even be able to like I love being in situations where like you're amongst the great so you have no choice but to learn. And that's how the Black Effect podcast festival feels every single year. So grateful to have experienced that with the team in Atlanta. Listen. And you're there.

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And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. the fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Michael Rappaport and my podcast, The IHarembuds.

I am Rapaport's stereo podcast is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show. And if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury. And it's as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both.

of those actors and I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out I don't know if it's five, six for best actor 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson.

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I went to go see the Michael biopic. And, you know, I saw, you know, all of the headlines and the conversation. about the fact that the Michael Biopic became the number one movie in the world the biggest opening ever globally after it grossed over

$200 million. Now this means that it outgrossed nearly all of the films in 2026 period so far. But I went to go see the movie and I'm going to be honest with y'all like I don't understand the critics' reviews

and I'm going to tell you guys why. understand why there's pushback about what's not in the film, but I don't agree with the critics that the stuff that should have been added. Not that I don't agree with them, but I don't see why the critics solely focused on the sexual assault allegations not being included in Michael's story. Because I feel like there was so much more that I wanted to see in the story before you even got to that time period. So originally I was supposed to go see the Michael movie Friday evening when I first landed in

Atlanta. A lot of my friends and my family flew in because they love the podcast festival as well. They've come, they've come both years now that I've been a part of it. So we went out to dinner. We got there. Things were moving so slow with our service and we just happened a good time. We end up not making it to the movie. Then the podcast festival was Saturday. So Sunday, before I flew out, I did a mat-in-a movie. And I didn't get to see anybody dancing, you know, in front of the screen. Like my movie theater today, they were very chill. There were some people dressed up. But the movie was amazing. The movie felt like a hug.

The movie made you, like, I was, like, smiling and warm the whole time because I'm like, man, like, we just, we don't have this greatness anymore. Like, the way Michael was so intentional about his career, you know, shaping his, like, his brand and the way people received him and received information about him and his mystique. and the way he didn't take for granted what was happening in his life and the gift that God gave him but more importantly the ability to reach all people not just black people but all people because of the platform and the amount of success and the amount of fans that he had he had grown was like it was one of the best lessons in understanding your why and just to see how rooted in

family he was like even to his detriment at some point to see how rooted in family he was i think you know the goal of this movie from everything i've watched with the cast and read um was to humanize him a bit more and and i think that there have been things that have humanized him but i think because michael jackson is so famous even all these years after his death um it's almost like he's a fairy tale like he's not a real person um and the conversation has you know been for the last few years about the allegations and people resueing and refiling lawsuits and, you know, all of that. I think that we get lost and all of that stuff and forget just how God sent that man's talent was and the fact that like we will never experience that again.

That's all I kept thinking is what a time to be alive to be watching Michael Jackson as his star rose. and you're seeing him amass this crazy level of wealth and success and all of these things that, man, like, oh. And then I was thinking about, you know, all of the crazy comparisons to Michael Jackson. And I'm like, never, I don't ever want to hear that again. Like, this movie really just, it's just such a feel good hug around

who he was as a person, what he stood on, and how he was blessed. because even in the worst of times he stood on that and what he did for others and just how important that was um with everything that he had and everything he had going on it was always about other people but there's a lot that I wish that they had gotten into that they didn't like um and not the allegations that's what I'm like I don't really understand why the critics only leaned into that I think that that's you know as a as a person in the media I know that like that's the headline right like that's the that's the bait. That's what makes you click it. That's what gets the conversation going. But to be honest,

I would love to see the conversation about Michael Jackson and all the catalogs that he owned and how he owned so much of the music industry's catalogs. I would have loved to see more in depth, just the dynamic with him and Quincy Jones. Because I feel like the way that we saw the dynamic of Quincy Jones and him in this movie is how we kind of like typically always see it. And it wasn't a bad depiction or anything like that, but I just thought there would be more especially because his estate was so involved in this storytelling and it's antoine fukwa like who is a master storyteller i also thought that we would get some more that we had never seen or just a just just a point of view about the relationship that michael jackson had with his father joe jackson

um so i thought we would go a little bit deeper there and that didn't happen um i also you know i feel like they could have really used the diana ross um parts of it um But, and again, not just glossed over, but when in depth about that, I definitely think that, you know, the whole Pepsi in the last tour and, you know, that time period, I wish that, like, we had gotten a bit more. Like, there was, it's like we hit so many points in his life from the time he was a child to that last, like, bad tour in 1988 in this movie. Like, that's the timeline.

But, like, I was like, oh, I wanted more. And it wasn't even the stuff that everybody else was yelling about. Like, there's so much. Like, I would love to ask, you know, Antoine and some of the writers, like, how did you guys in this state? How did you guys figure out what to even keep and how to tell the story? My only pushback of this was that as amazing as it was, as much as it made me smile, as much as it warmed my heart to see him on the screen. And, oh, my God, his nephew did an amazing job.

The younger boy, the child actor that played Michael Jackson as well, was really, really good, too. his nephew Jafar Jackson bodied this role from the movements he looked just like Michael Jackson does in all the videos to the mannerisms

to the voice to you know like you really felt the heart and soul of Michael Jackson through his nephew like I sat in the movie theater I'm like yo this family is like the poster child family for it's in the blood

because it's so he was doing it so naturally like there was no overacting like shout out to the choreographers too oh my god in the the um wardrobe i know marcy rogers who's a black woman she's a black woman stylist uh did the wardrobe here like oh my god but yeah that that was my only critique um was that there was a lot of like the story that we did see that like i wish we had just gotten deeper into like i wish because i just think that they have the reins should be able to really tell us things we did not know and even with the vitilago stuff and in the you know, Michael Jackson, you know, allegedly wanting to be white.

Even that was like kind of glossed over a bit. Like they mentioned certain things, but like they didn't go into death, but like his struggle with that. So I wish we had gotten some of that. But when they were talking about a sequel, and I know Leon Long was on the today show with Coleman Domingo and mentioned a sequel, let's take a listen. When they talk about a sequel, there's no way they cannot do another movie. They have to.

There are so much more that we got to get into. Even if you never touch the allegations, there's so much more. But it was a great movie. I recommend everyone to go see it. Definitely something you take your family to go see. It just makes you feel good. And also, like, if you're a person that is getting up every day and trying to figure out life and very passionate about what you put out into the world

and how it's a reminder of, like, greatness is rewarded. Like, and especially in 2026, I feel like we've gotten so far away from, like, people actually caring about the product of what they're putting out. the look how it makes people feel but also the humanity of of the art like being an artist is like you literally are able to take people's emotions from high to low low to high like you can move mountains with art with storytelling with song with dance I think we've gotten so far away from like how much of a gift our gifts are and this movie was a good reminder of that so shout out to them You know, they definitely need a sequel done.

Like, if there's no sequel done, this is not just. Listen. And you're there for heart-wrenching knockouts. A world's biggest stage. And breathtaking triumph. 2026 FIFA World Cup. The knockout stage. Every match.

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Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store. I had to go down Jefferson Davis,

If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, season two goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Michael Rappaport, and my podcast, the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show, and if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now.

This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as... Rami Malick is Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out, I don't know if it's five, six for best actor. 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to IAM Rap Report on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you, you get your podcast. I am Rapaport podcast.

You said to me, yo, you know, keep at it. Because you let me rap for you. It was magical for all of us. We made it. We made it. Yeah. I'm like, we?

You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you? I'm MC Jen, and this is laugh but not least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. Like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean. Talking about as a kid, that we met, even way before that. Let me think. Did you walk up to the gate?

That was me, Dee. That was you? That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyleing, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there, and that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life.

Listen and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You guys, when I saw the movie this weekend, let me know how you feel and get out there in the streets and in the tweets. I'm Lauren La Rosa everywhere. L-O-R-E-N-L-O-R-O-S-A. I tell you guys every single episode, y'all can be anywhere with any old body.

But y'all choose to be right here with me, my low riders. I appreciate you guys, and it was so good to see. so many of you, the listeners of the podcast at the podcast festival. If you did purchase merch, please tag me. I want to post you guys like I want the world to see y'all. I appreciate it so much. And don't forget, you can

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buy with me. I got a lot. I got a lot I want to do this year. This is an inspirational weekend. I'll catch you guys in my next episode. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Joy 101 and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotopje is presented by CVS. Can superstars even exist the way they used to?

2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consume things in community. Everybody wanted to be Vianthe at that point. I don't think we'll ever see another beyond. What does it mean to be black and eat in America? You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl, for being a black American girl ever. From music to food to the conversations shaping black culture right now,

therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akela Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things.

As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Chuck from Stuff You Should Know, and we're submitting our most sciencey episodes for your peer review with our new stuff you should know doing science playlist. Out now. You want to know about Occam's Razor? Simplest explanation is usually the right one? We got you covered. Wondered what chaos theory is ever since the first time you saw Jurassic Park. Well, come on down.

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