The Breakfast Club - Resmaa Menakem and Gia Peppers interview

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

Today on the show we had author Resmaa Menakem stop by where he spoke on "The Quaking Of America", the capitol riots, Will Smith's pain, Kodak Black and more. Also, we had Gia Peppers stop by who spok...e on "More Than That", growing up in journalism, hustling with faith and more. Charlamagne also gave "Donkey of the Day" to a Utah woman who blamed fatal hit-and-run on uncontrollable defecation. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:07 Everyone smells rich and successful. All that now, can't nobody tell y'all. Non-stop entertainment. The Breakfast Club. Wake your punk ass up. Good morning, USA! To you, the birds are chirping How y'all feel today? Good morning Yeah, man Feels good to be here
Starting point is 00:03:48 Feels good to be alive, man God is good Well, yesterday I smoked cigars for the first time Congratulations Oh, yeah Yeah, it was a weird thing I had to film something at this cigar bar in Jersey And Scott's playing high-end cigars
Starting point is 00:03:58 So I got a little cigar education Okay And then smoked a couple of cigars for the first time Did you like it? It was okay You know what? Cigar Education. Okay. And then smoked a couple of cigars for the first time. Did you like it? It was okay. You know what? I'm used to, like, feeling like cigars stink and they're terrible, but these were not,
Starting point is 00:04:15 you know, I guess if you pick, like, some good ones, it was sweet tasting. It wasn't too bad. I don't know that it's, like, my thing, but at least I know about it. Okay. You know? All right. Well, I was out, of course, the book, my book, me and my wife's book, I should say,
Starting point is 00:04:26 comes out April 19th. So we're starting press. So I've been doing press all day yesterday. Yesterday I did 14 interviews. And then we start hitting the road. So we'll be,
Starting point is 00:04:35 if you have a bookstore, one of your favorite bookstores and you would like us to stop by so we can talk about the book, it's a relationship book all about things, what to do in a marriage
Starting point is 00:04:43 and things not to do in a marriage or relationship. So I know we go into mahogany books in D.C. I know we go into bookends in Ridgewood. I know we go into the L.A. Book Festival in L.A. So if there's any bookstore out there that you want us to come by, we are coming to different cities. And we are doing it just like artists would do an album. We're getting in the car and we're going from city to city and hopefully talking to as many people as possible.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We're super duper excited about this book. If you haven't pre-ordered it, definitely pre-order the book. Like I said, it comes out April 19th. So we're excited about that. So that was my day yesterday. Me and the wife's day yesterday. My day was spent in front of the television. I've been watching a lot of TV lately.
Starting point is 00:05:20 What you watching? There's some great shows. Of course, Avid Elementary is great. Super pumped on Showtime. It's about Uber. That's fantastic. Moon Knight is fantastic. And Winning Time. The story of the Lakers is great. But the highlight of my
Starting point is 00:05:34 day yesterday, because for the past couple of months, it still is. It hasn't stopped. It's all in Kanto. It's all, we don't talk about Bruno. It's just everything is in Kanto. Everything's in Kanto. I mean, random in Kanto videos and Kanto on Roadblock and Kanto on the TV. Yesterday, I got my three-year-old to watch Lion King, and she enjoyed it. No more Kanto?
Starting point is 00:05:56 No, it's definitely going to still be in Kanto. My six-year-old's still working on her with Lion King. And I only got to the part where Mufasa came to save Simba from the hyenas, came to save Simba and Nala from the hyenas. But she was so intrigued. And you know how I know
Starting point is 00:06:10 she was intrigued? Because when it was time for dinner, she didn't even want to eat dinner. She wanted to continue to watch the Lion King. And after she ate dinner,
Starting point is 00:06:15 she was like, I want to finish watching the Lion King. He said, we'll finish it tomorrow. Okay? That's good. That made me proud
Starting point is 00:06:20 as a father yesterday. Well, I banned Encanto from my car for the next couple of days. Well, you're just a cruel father. I can't take it. It's not about you. Bro, I banned Encanto from my car for the next couple of days. Well, you're just a cruel father. I can't take it. It's not about you.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Bro, I can play it one time. It's not about you. One time I can play it, but I can't play it over and over and over. That's the whole point. That's why they have the sing-along. They even got the sing-along Encanto on Disney Plus the way the kids can sing along with the song. I'm tired of Bruno.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I don't want to know who Bruno is. It's not about you. Yes, it is. After the first song, I could take it. The second one, I could take it. You're selfish. Went 10 times in a row. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Damn. See? I could see why that would hurt a little bit. See? Wow. See? 10 times in a row? I can't mess with you.
Starting point is 00:06:55 One or two is cool, huh? 10 in a row? Gia Peppers will be joining us this morning. Gia. Salute to Gia Peppers, man. And also, we have somebody else joining us, right? My good brother, Resmaa Minicum, the author of My Grandmother's Hands. He's got a new book coming out called The Quaking of America.
Starting point is 00:07:10 All right. Yes. So let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what we talking about? Well, you may have noticed that there's not a lot of K-Marts around anymore. And once these last few K-Marts close down, there'll only be three left in the United States. What happened? Walmart and Target just took Kmart out.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I forgot all about Kmart. Don't disrespect Kmart, though. I forgot all about Kmart. That's the original Mart. You know how many there used to be? How many? 2,000. And that is only three?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Mm-hmm. What did they do wrong? All right. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I'm talking both of them. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charmaine. I'm talking both of them. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charmaine. I'm talking both of them. My God, we are The Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page news. The NBA tonight starts the play-in tournament. I know on the East Coast, I know the Brooklyn Nets take on the Cavaliers. Okay. On the West Coast, I think the Clippers take on the...
Starting point is 00:08:02 Spurs, right? Spurs? Timberwolves. Timberwolves, yeah. All right, what else we got, Yeezy? All right, well, Kmart is nearing extinction. After one of them is closing in New Jersey, they'll be down to only three Kmarts in the continental United States.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And so what they're saying is, you know, it was a lot of competition in a world dominated by Walmart, Target, and Amazon. And Kmart's decline has been slow but steady. It's different shopping habits. Also, Target has better and trendier offerings. Walmart has lower prices. Kmart filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy back in early 2002. Then they tried to combine Sears and Kmart
Starting point is 00:08:40 and return them to their former greatness. But with the recession and the rising dominance of Amazon, that's continued to get derailed. And they're saying that, you know, the CEO did not have a retail background. He was more interested in stripping off the assets of the two chains for their cash value. They said Sears
Starting point is 00:08:57 should have never gone away. Kmart was in worse shape, but not fatally so, and now they are both gone. Sears is gone too? Sears has been gone. I had no idea. Only the strong survive. That's why nobody should get comfortable because I'm old enough to remember when Kmart mattered. I'm old enough to remember when Kmart was the only thing.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You remember Sports Authority? I do remember Sports Authority. What took over Sports Authority? Dicks, sporting goods probably. But I mean, honestly, Amazon took over all of those places. Yeah, but you want to try things on. You want to go to D's and try it on. You want to play with the balls. You want to kick.
Starting point is 00:09:27 You know what I mean? You want to go through that. Like, who wants to order that stuff from me? When I walked in and saw you in that salmon this morning, when I saw you in that pink, I knew it was going to be on today. You want to try some stuff out at Dick's? I knew it was going to be on with him today. He's got his beard black today.
Starting point is 00:09:42 He's got that paint on. I do not. He's got that pink in paint. Whenever you got that pink in paint on, it is going to be a party. You hear me? All right. Well, Philadelphia has restored their indoor
Starting point is 00:09:53 mask mandate as cases have been rising. It's the first major U.S. city to reinstate that indoor mask mandate. There's been a sharp increase in COVID infections. They're saying that confirmed cases have risen more than 50% in 10 days, and that is a threshold at which the city's guidelines call for people to wear masks indoors. So starting April 18th, health inspectors will begin to enforce that mask mandate at city businesses.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So the mask mandate is coming back. Well, in Philadelphia is the first place because cases rose 50%. Okay. Are people dying though, or is it just catching COVID? I mean, anytime there's more cases that people catch, the percentages will go up. 50%. Are people dying though or is it just catching COVID? Anytime there's more cases that people catch, the percentages will go up. I thought the new stream was saying it was a lot lighter. People weren't getting hospitalized.
Starting point is 00:10:33 You can't put the toothpaste back into YouTube. You told everybody to take their mask off and mask mandates are over and now you think you can get people to put masks back on? Please. You're about to catch hell. It's like farting in reverse. Okay, well, that is your front page news.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's impossible, right? Now you fart in reverse. That's right. You can't. Once you fart, it's gone. Ain't no grabbing that fart and putting it back in your ass. That's what I'm trying to tell the people in Philly. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:11:05 If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now. Again, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up.
Starting point is 00:11:20 This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club Hello, who's this? Hello Hello Hey, this is Tina I don't know if y'all remember me from last Wednesday
Starting point is 00:11:39 Y'all helped me out with my disability I do, Tina, from Spartanburg The 864 Yes, I just wanted to tell y'all help me out with my disability. I do, Tina, from Spartanburg, the 864. Yes, I just wanted to tell y'all thank you. You're welcome, Tina. It did come in handy because they did deny my appeal. Oh, okay. So it did get paid, and I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It's one thing I wanted to clear up, though, because a couple of listeners took something dj elvie said the wrong way and i didn't take it the wrong way you made the comment that it was like the blind leading the blind and i just took it as a fan because it's a fan but they thought oh that's because you that's because yeah that's because you blind you were blind in one eye no i was i was saying that he's from south carolina you from South Carolina. Y'all leading each other. We just honestly didn't know.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I didn't even know. Yeah. What's that mean? I ain't blind. No, it had nothing to do with blind. Because I was saying the blind needed the blind because you couldn't figure out the cash. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, and that's how I took it. Oh, okay. Harmless. Yeah, but I didn't take it that way. No, I wasn't going at you at all. I was just saying Charlamagne couldn't figure out the cash app, and it was just like we all couldn't figure it out. That's all I was saying.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, I know what you mean by a couple people, and I didn't want that negative energy out there because I appreciate what y'all did for me. No, thank you, Tina. Okay, thank y'all. Hey, Angelique. Hey, boo. And I ain't worried about them. As long as you didn't take it the wrong way,
Starting point is 00:13:07 that's all I care about. No, I did. They shouldn't even worry about it. Alright, thank you so much, Tina. You have a good morning. Peace, queen. Thank you. Okay, bye. I didn't even think about that at all. Because that wasn't my intention. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning, DJ.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Peace, queen, queen. Nope. I can't. Nope. I can take it once or twice, but when it goes five, six times, That's the best thing about the whole entire movie. Because the movie itself is perfect. Nope. It was perfect. I can take it once or twice, but when it goes five, six times, I just can't take it no more. You want to take it once or twice, I don't want to take it.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I can't even hear what your phone. Envy just scrambled your signal. Yeah, your phone is terrible, but yeah, Envy is very selfish. Because Encanto is not about us as parents. It's about the kids. No, thank you. Now, Charlamagne, you said you don't know why they talk about you. Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Because that man did his job. Everybody had a power, and his power was to tell the secret of what he saw. And just like us, there's regular people sometimes who don't want to hear the truth. They didn't want to hear the truth, so they passed him off. Period. And then he was living in the truth, so they cast him aside. Period. Oh, my kids told me that he just left his family. That's not true. They was mad at him for doing his job.
Starting point is 00:14:32 He told them, he told me my sister died. Your phone is crazy, mother. I get it. That's the era we live in. Nobody wants to do a reality. They don't want the truth tellers around. They will cast them out. I get it.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy.
Starting point is 00:15:04 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hi, good morning. This is Miriam. Good morning. Good morning. I'm very, very happy to be on the show this morning. Congratulations, Envy, on your book.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Charlamagne, I have both your books. Thank you. So last week was my 71st birthday. Hey! Thank you. I want to just do a rap by 50 Cent that I love that gets me going every morning. Okay, let's do it. Okay. My flow, my dough brought me the dough.
Starting point is 00:15:36 That brought me all my fancy things. My, my. My clothes, my jewels. I done came up and I ain't changed Oh, you mad Good life Right The club is on
Starting point is 00:15:58 If the roof on fire I ain't concerned If the roof on fire. I ain't concerned. And if they hate them, let them hate. Pile up. There you go. 74 years young. I like those edits too.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That was amazing. You edited all the gay slurs. You edited the other F word. I love it. What did you do for your 71st birthday? I just think I enjoyed my great-grandchildren. I got gifts from my children. And I just rest. I relax.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I went and I got a manicure and a pedicure. And I also wrote a book. And Charlamagne, you're in my book. 50 Cent is in my book. It's about my 17 years working in the prison system. What's it called? It's called Broken Spirit. Let it go so you can grow.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It's on Amazon? It's on Barnes & Noble. I'm going to order it. Okay. Oh, thank you. You're a huge 50 Cent fan, huh? Oh, my God. I want to interview him on my TV show.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I don't know if I can set up an interview, but I'll send you a nice little package from him. Probably be a book and some liquor and some of that other stuff. Oh. Can I ask this one quick question? Of course, queen. Okay, thank you. So since I'm 71 years old and I love hip hop okay because
Starting point is 00:17:25 it just gives me it just puts me in the mood that I'm in right now all the time do you think those of us who are in our 70s are too old to love hip hop? Not at all music is music and it's
Starting point is 00:17:42 black culture and hip hop is like 50 plus years old. Not at all. Right. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. It's an extension of black culture.
Starting point is 00:17:52 The name of my TV show is Tell-A-Vision. Television. Oh, I like that. I like that. I like that. It's very clever. Very clever. All right, mama.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You hold on. We're going to get your address. I'm going to send you a little 50 cent gift pack for you. Why do you have a 50 cent gift pack? I'm going to his office today, so I'm just going to grab some stuff to send to him. Enjoy, Queen. Oh, well, you know what? Just tell 50 that I met him in 2014, and he signed my book, The 50th Law.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I love The 50th Law. Tell him that I'm the older woman. Tell him I'm the older woman when he came to Livingston. And instead of taking out his CD, I took out the book so he could sign it for me. Alright, I'll tell him. But yeah, I'll take some stuff from his office and I'll send you some stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Okay, great. And do you think you may want to come on my TV show? I'm local. Okay. Okay, we can set that up. And the UNGN should go on. Yeah, for the win. We got a book coming out. So maybe I'll send you
Starting point is 00:18:47 the book too and that way you can read the book and then you invite us up when you finish reading the book. Oh, great. Thank you. All right, you're welcome. All right, peace, queen.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Let me get your address. Peace. All right. You know, older people never know how to get off the phone. Thank you. You know how it is when you're talking to that guy.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Bye, goodbye. All right. Okay, we appreciate you. Man, 71 is a blessing, man. It is a blessing. I can're talking to that guy. Bye, goodbye. All right. Okay, we appreciate you. Man, 71 is a blessing, man. It is a blessing. I can't wait to see 71. God bless her. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:19:10 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. We got rumors on the way, E? Yes, and congratulations to DJ Khaled. We'll tell you about his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and who was there by his side. This is so dope. All right, we'll get into that next.
Starting point is 00:19:23 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Well, a big shout out to DJ Khaled. He got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Congratulations to him. So Diddy was there.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Jay-Z was there. Fat Joe was there to help him get things started. Tiana Taylor, Jeezy, Nori, all of them joined him as he got his star. Here's what he had to say. I want to thank my wife and my two beautiful boys. Asad, you good? Alam, you good? You know we the biggest, right?
Starting point is 00:20:03 I love them so much. Nicole, I appreciate you, you know, not only dealing with me, but just everyday life, taking care of our kids. I'm not a regular type of person. I'm a different type of, look, there's only one caliber, that's all I have to say. So I just want to say thank you. But I want to make one thing super clear. I want my star to represent the light, the love, the shine on everybody.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You know, God put me on this earth to be a light. You know, the room can be pitch dark. And when I walk in, it's bright. Drop on a Clues Bomb for DJ Khaled. Congratulations, DJ Khaled. He also has a Jordan brand collaboration I saw that he has coming out. So that looks nice and colorful. Shout out to Chris Smokes.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I saw Kanye looking disgusted every time Khaled showed him one of the Jordans. I was wondering if that's just because of the whole Adidas Jordan thing. I'm sure. But this is like his third or fourth collaboration. So shout out to Khaled, man. What Khaled is doing is amazing. All right. Now Britney Spears has said that she's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:21:03 She posted on Instagram, I lost so much weight to go on my Maui trip only to she's pregnant. She posted on Instagram, I lost so much weight to go on my Maui trip only to gain it back. I thought, geez, what happened to my stomach? My husband said, no, you're food pregnant, silly. So I got a pregnancy test and, well, I'm having a baby. Four days later, I got a little more food pregnant. It's growing.
Starting point is 00:21:19 If two are in there, I might just lose it. I obviously won't be going out as much due to the paps getting their money shot at me, like they unfortunately already have. It's hard because when I was pregnant, I had perinatal depression. I have to say it is absolutely horrible. Women didn't talk about it back then. Some people considered it dangerous if a woman complained like that with a baby inside her. But now women talk about it every day.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Thank Jesus we don't have to keep that pain a reserved proper secret. This time I will be doing yoga every day, spreading lots of joy and love. Now she has two other boys, right? Or one other boy? Yeah, this is just her first child with her, she calls him her husband sometimes, but with Sam Asghari. So congratulations to them.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right, a love and hip hop movie is allegedly in the works. This is an exclusive according to Jasmine Brand. Sources say that the fictional project is in the early stages and is an exclusive according to Jasmine Brand. Sources say that the fictional project is in the early stages
Starting point is 00:22:08 and a script is currently being created. They're also saying some of the creators of the reality franchise are involved with production of this upcoming film. I saw that headline yesterday.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I wonder what that creative is like. Well, it's fictional, but then I guess a lot of love and hip-hop kind of is also. So maybe it's some... Yeah, I just want lot of love and hip-hop kind of is also. So maybe it's some... I just want to know what the creative is.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Behind the scenes. It could be a great idea. Yeah, how would they start it? I'm curious as well. All right, now, Saturday Night Live comedian Molly Shannon has a book out today. Her memoir is called Hello, Molly. And she talks about a lot of different things in there. She talks about visiting L.A. in 1987. She had just gotten signed by Gary Coleman's agent, Mark Randall.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And she said he was hugely popular back then. He had just left his sitcom. She said she was over the moon. And she went out to dinner with her agent and with Gary Coleman. She said that Coleman was 18 at the time, but very small because he had that kidney disease that limited his growth to 4'8", but he was extremely flirtatious. She said, we had a great time laughing and joking. And then Gary Coleman asked her if she wanted to see the presidential suite where he was staying. She said, once in the room, he asked Shannon to sit on a bed. She said, the possibility of something sexual occurring hadn't even crossed my mind. I was an innocent virgin still.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He was playful at first, tickling me, trying to lie on top of me and smooch me. Then when I pushed him away and stood up, Gary climbed up on the bed and jumped off, using it as a springboard to launch himself to me, kissing me wildly and sticking his little baby hands under my shirt. You talking about Arnold? Yeah, Arnold. Gary Coleman.
Starting point is 00:23:40 She said that she pushed him away and she said that she was able to flip him off the bed, but he repeatedly tried to kiss her. Finally, she got up and he draped his whole body around her calf. So she ended up dragging him across the floor and she ran across the room and locked herself in the bathroom while undeterred. He wiggled his fingers underneath the door. She said his relentlessness was unlike anything I've ever experienced. She finally was able to escape the room and told her agent that his client is wild and never heard from the agent again. She dragged him by her calf muscle? He was, I guess.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Because he's 4'8". Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you. Right. So she has a lot of interesting stories. It sounds like a great memoir. She's now 57 years old. And she talked about when she was four years old, her mother, younger sister, and cousin all died in a car accident
Starting point is 00:24:27 while her father was driving. After drinking too much at a family celebration, she and another sister survived. Gary Coleman been dead for a long time. I was going to ask, has Gary Coleman been dead years? He died in 2010. Yeah, he's been dead for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 All right, well, that is your rumor report. All right. Sheesh. Front your rumor report. All right. Sheesh. Front page news next. What are we talking about? Well, let's talk about the University of Southern California. They have sued some YouTubers over some of their pranks. All right.
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Starting point is 00:25:24 front page news. Where we starting? Well, two YouTubers have been sued by the University of Southern California, and that is for busting into classrooms and stopping the instructors so they could film viral videos. And now they're saying that Ernest Konefsky and Yugo Bai, neither of whom are enrolled at the school, performed a series of pranks in different classrooms and the goal was making takeover prank videos. Their most recent disruption went down a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Ernest and Hugo pretended to be a Russian mafia member and Hugo Boss, they interrupted a lecture on the Holocaust. Hugo Boss manufactured Nazi uniforms during World War II. They said the students were panicked. Some of them fled the room, leaving their belongings behind. And according to the lawsuit, the YouTubers presented a credible threat of imminent classroom violence. Here's what happened. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Can I help you? Oh, you can go on. Are you in this class? Oh, no. I'm just trying to learn. Can I ask you to leave? No. I'm going to have to
Starting point is 00:26:27 call security if you don't leave. Why is everybody leaving? I'm just trying to learn. See, security should have shot him. You know what I'm saying? People like that, when they do these pranks, do they read the room or do they just be going for the funny? Because common sense
Starting point is 00:26:43 would say if I'm going to come into a room dressed as a Russian mafia member, interrupting lectures on the Holocaust, I would think it was an imminent threat of classroom violence too, if I was in that classroom. Well, officers arrested them at gunpoint in a parking lot near the classroom. Should have shot them. And no word on what these criminal charges will be if they're going to press them at all. Should have shot them. You ain't got to kill them.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Just give them a little leg shot or something. You know what I'm saying? Because at some point in time, you have to read the room when it comes to these pranks. Why would you do something like that ever, but especially at a time like this? Makes no sense. All right, now, a former Virginia police officer
Starting point is 00:27:14 who stormed the U.S. Capitol was found guilty on all charges yesterday. That man, Thomas Robertson, is a former sergeant of the Rocky Mount Police in Virginia. He faced charges including impeding law enforcement officers, obstructing an official proceeding, entering and remaining in restricted grounds, and tampering with evidence. The jury did hear from multiple witnesses during the trial last week. And one juror told CNN that there was debate on every charge while the jury deliberated for around 13 hours.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And so during the trial, they testified that a man carrying a stick who prosecutors say was Robertson hit him. And another officer, as they tried to pass through the mob of rioters during the attack, prosecutors did play several clips of the incident. They also played some footage from police body cameras that were worn that day. So,
Starting point is 00:27:59 he has been found guilty on all of those charges. So, closing arguments. His attorneys argued that he had no plans to go down and say, I'm going to stop Congress from doing this vote and continue to suggest that the stick that Robertson had with him was simply a walking stick. But that did not stick. All right. Well, that is your front page news. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Thank you, Miss Yee. Now, when we come back, we have an author joining us. He has a new book, Quaking of America. One of my favorite authors, one of my favorite people, Resmaa Minikim. He's the author of My Grandmother's Hands, which is a ridiculous New York Times bestseller.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That book has been on the New York Times bestsellers list for so many weeks, but he's got a new book coming out called The Quaking of America. Yes, and he will be at my coffee shop today. Coffee uplifts people, so if you want to come and meet him and talk to him and have a conversation and get your book signed, you can do that. All right. We're going to talk to him next. Don't move.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Power 105.1. The Breakfast Club. Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:29:08 We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. He's an author. He has a new book, Quaking of America. He's also going to be at Angela Yee's coffee shop doing an in-store, all right? Resmaa Minikin. Good to see you, Black Man. How you doing, King?
Starting point is 00:29:21 I'm doing good, brother. I'm doing good, man. New book out? The Quaking of America, an embodied guideied Guide to Navigating Our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning. Yeah, man. It's a beast. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:32 What's the title about? Whenever you write a book, the publisher always wants you to write the same book again. That's right. So I had originally started writing a book called Our Grandchildren's Souls. And it was basically about legacy and how do we create a living embodied anti-racist legacy culture as opposed to just like being nice to each other. And then January 6th happened.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And soon as that happened, I was like, I can't keep writing this book. I got to, I got to, because I think America sometimes we have seminal moments. And then what we do a lot of times is we forget those seminal moments. And I wanted to enshrine it in the book. And so it really is about what it is that we saw on January 6th and how that actually is a testimony and a testament to our history,
Starting point is 00:30:19 to the intergenerational trauma, to the persistent institutional trauma, and then our own personal pieces. And so the quaking of America is really about how that shows up and what we begin to do about it. I mean, really right now, when you look at what happened January 6th, people are not even really talking about it. No, not at all. An attempted coup of this country happened. An attempted coup.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And then what's going to happen in the future after that, because you have some predictions as well. Right. That's not normal in a democracy. No, no. Well, it should be normal. It should be normal in any country. But in this country, we get so enamored with forgetting things, right?
Starting point is 00:30:55 And what ends up happening, I think, sometimes is that we don't learn the lessons that we need to learn. When January 6th happened, I wasn't even watching what was going on. And then on and then all of a sudden Maria my wife goes Resmaa she screams right and she's upstairs in the bedroom I come upstairs and you see like 2,000 people showing up to this thing and so I just sat down and we started watching it and then all of a sudden you start seeing the symbols of our past you start seeing the new show up right remember then you start seeing the sw of our past. You start seeing the new show up, right? Remember? Then you start seeing the swastika show up, right?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Then you start seeing the AR-15 show up. Then you start seeing people kick the windows out. And I'm thinking as I'm watching this, I'm like, ain't nobody dead yet? They haven't shot anybody yet? If that had been 6,000 black folks, or 6,000 indigenous people, or 6,000
Starting point is 00:31:43 Mexican people, there wouldn't have been enough body bags. Right. And then and then when they finally started kicking in the doors and nobody stopped them, I was like, this is a seminal moment. My whole thing in the book was like, look, if we don't if white people and particularly white people, if you saw that and that didn't spur you to take a self-defense course, that didn't spur you to learn weapons training, that didn't spur you to take a psychological first aid course. If that didn't spur you to do that, then you're not seeing you're not taking what you just saw seriously. In my grandmother's hands in January 6th reminded me that you spoke to how, you know, before they did that to enslaved Africans, before they did that to indigenous people, they did it to themselves. They did it to themselves.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yes. And that's the whole piece. The whole piece for me is that white bodies got conditioned around whiteness in a way that allowed them to not see not only our humanity, but their own humanity. Most white bodies that are listening to this call right now are descended from white bodies that were fleeing something. Write that down. So what we call American immigrants, like most of the time when we think about it,
Starting point is 00:32:56 we think about those black and white pictures of white people coming on off the boats, right? And all that different type of stuff. But if you go a hundred years before that, most of them were fleeing famine. Most of them were fleeing religious persecution. Most of them were fleeing the Middle Ages. They were fleeing other white bodies
Starting point is 00:33:13 who were brutalizing them. And then they landed here. And then what ended up happening is that most of those bodies got sold right after the Bacon Rebellion, got sold the idea of whiteness by elite white bodies. So elite white bodies sold poor white bodies the idea of whiteness as a way to get around the brutality.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But that fleeing never got dealt with. And the conduit for dealing with it was really the black and indigenous bodies. So all of that trauma, all of that hurt, all of that pain, blow it that hurt, all of that pain, blow it through their bodies, right? And so that's the whole setup. This whole setup is around, and this is where I talk about
Starting point is 00:33:52 the difference between identity and body, right? So black, brown, and indigenous people all have identities, right? We might be transgender, we might be gay, we might be straight, we might be whatever. We have all of these different identities. And we are also bodies of culture or black bodies. And what ends up happening is that people conflate identity with pigmentocracy. We live in a pigmentocracy. There was a structure that was set up based on looking out in the fields and seeing that that you are less human you are a species than the white bodies standing next to you and so those pieces have never gotten dealt
Starting point is 00:34:32 with in america and in the quaking of america i'm trying to begin to do that trying to begin to work with that you know i noticed that too when we see people fleeing from ukraine and because they're white we have a different amount of sympathy but then people are fleeing from Ukraine and because they're white, we have a different amount of sympathy. But then people are fleeing from oppression and all kinds of violence in their countries. But if they come from black and brown places, it's like there's no sympathy for that. Right. Sis, do you remember? This was this was not even a year ago. We saw white men on horsebacks beating Haitians crossing the river. If that is not a direct, that picture, those pictures were direct ties to our historical past, right? The pigmentocracy is global, right?
Starting point is 00:35:16 When you watch people fleeing a war zone in the Ukraine, you have soldiers saying, you can come on the boat, you get off the bus, you do that. That's based on a pigmentocracy. That's not based on whether or not those people are citizens. That's not based on whether those people are workers within that country. That's based on a pigmentocracy. You are less human and you are more human. And so therefore, you can get on the planes and the bus. And even though we're in the war zone and we're all trying to escape. Right. That's what I mean. That's so, so in quaking, I'm really trying to land that piece and have people understand that this idea of, of, of black skin being less of a,
Starting point is 00:35:57 less human is the race question in this country is a species question. First is Charlemagne a human or not? The race question in this country is a species question first. Is Charlemagne a human or not? And the answer for America is no, he is not. Is Sister Yee a human or not? And the answer structurally and philosophically has always been no. It was in the Constitution. It was in the, I mean, it's three-fifths of, people always talk about three-fifths or three-fifths being just a voting clause.
Starting point is 00:36:24 No, the three-fifths clause came out of debate, which means that you had people in the room debating how much those other bodies were actually worth. That idea transcends through time, and that's what we're dealing with. When you see all of these, you know, when you see the brutality that our people have experienced, you see it in both big demonstrative things, you see it in mundane things. Like when you watch what happened between Brother Will and Chris Rock, you watched history walk up the steps. His own personal history, the historical,
Starting point is 00:37:04 the intergenerational, and the institutional. You could see the pain walking up the steps. You could see the heartbreak in Brother Chris' face from that. You could see the heartbreak in... People talk about Chris, they talk about
Starting point is 00:37:20 Brother Will, and they talk about Jada. But what they don't talk about is a person that was off to the side that actually represented the community. And that was Sister Lupita. When you watch her face when that happens, you see heartbreak.
Starting point is 00:37:36 You see fear. You see all of those different things. Just slow the tape down. You see a rupture. And that rupture has historical underpinnings alright we have more with Resmaa Minikin when we come back don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning
Starting point is 00:37:51 morning everybody it's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy we are the Breakfast Club we're still kicking it with author Resmaa Minikin and don't forget he's gonna be at Angela Yee's coffee shop today signing books another thing that's current that's been happening with Supreme Court Justice Resmaa Menneken, and don't forget he's going to be at Angela Yee's coffee shop today signing books.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yee? Another thing that's current that's been happening with Supreme Court Justice Katonji Brown Jackson, and we saw her being questioned and the things that they were saying about her and to her and the messaging that the Republicans were putting out who were voting against her. And so that's something, too, because I know a lot of what you discuss is also political. Yeah. In context, too, when we talk about Republican and their messaging. Yeah. And how Democrats operate as far as trying to be more concerned about policy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Than anything else. First off, she wasn't being questioned. She was being what I call, and there's been a lot of writing on this, is what's called spirit murder. Right. of writing on this is what's called spirit murder right she wouldn't the questioning and the things that they were doing were about attacking and undermining her humanity first notice the questioning the questioning was not what have you done what's the laws what are the things that right the question was around are you a human enough yeah right and that's always the subtext yeah
Starting point is 00:39:02 right it would make her small more than a moral that's always the subtext. Yeah. Right? They want to make her small morally. Question her morals. That's right. Question her morals. Question her actual humanity. You don't really deserve to be here. That spirit murder is a facet of America. Right? In order to enslave a people, right?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Black people were never slaves. We were enslaved, which means something happened. In order to do that, you have to spirit murder people. You have to undermine. You have to cut them. You have to make them believe that the brother or the sister next to them is their mortal enemy. And what we have to begin to do is we have to begin to change our language. We have to begin to change our language and make sure that it's an embodied language. Like, when you were watching what they were doing to sis,
Starting point is 00:39:47 I would imagine just knowing you sis that you were watching and going, probably using not so good words, right? But something about what they were doing, even though it looked like questioning, something about it seemed brutal. Yeah. Right? That's the spirit murder. I appreciate what Cory Booker said,
Starting point is 00:40:04 but in that moment, you got to check them white boys. Come on. Before you pour into her. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. It didn't feel right. It felt like you was like, you felt like you watched sister get slapped in the face.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Right. And you're pouring into her saying it was so good you didn't do anything, you didn't fight back. Right. But the person that slapped him is right there and you didn't say nothing to him. That's right, that's right. You know? That's the piece that I think, in terms quaking like a friend of mine uh uh that spent uh that red quaking she said resma my grandmother's hands was like a warm blanket
Starting point is 00:40:34 uh quaking is like a dark alley right because i'm moving into some places that people don't really want to want to go and you just hit on it right i love the fact that he poured into her i love the fact that somebody said i see you sis i see you i love you um and i know what they're doing right that's beautiful right and at the same time the piece that you're saying also needs to needs to come to the fore too somebody somebody should have said and there was nobody that should have said, that could have said it, right, but him at that moment, should have said, hey, all this stuff that they're doing is foul.
Starting point is 00:41:12 They foul. You ain't crazy. They are out of pocket. And I'm going to say something to them, right? But, see, when we go to do that, now we're responding from people want to position us as we're responding from what's small in us. And we're not when we're protecting each other and protecting doesn't all doesn't necessarily always mean physical protection. But sometimes you got to talk. Sometimes you got to say, look, back up.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Quit talking to her like that. That's not that's not how we're supposed to get down. And you're not going to do it You may do it in front of other people But you can't do it in front of me So you're absolutely right But that's what quaking is about Us beginning to really understand That this structure
Starting point is 00:41:58 And the philosophy Is going to eviscerate you So you might as well say something While you're trying to do it. In the first chapter of the book, you quote Stuart Stevens, who says, for the first time since 1860, a major American political party, the Republicans, doesn't believe America is a democracy. How significant is that statement?
Starting point is 00:42:18 We've always known that, right? That's right. So I had an indigenous brother tell me one time when back this is years ago when I was arguing about, you know, you know, political parties and stuff like that, you know, the Republicans and the Democrats. And one of the things he said, and we just both start laughing when he said he said right wing, left wing, all part of the same racist birds. And that's what that means that that I don't you know, in the book, I really go at everybody I'm going at because because I think we have to have a more mature understanding about what we're dealing with. This idea that we're going to we're going to resolve this by putting more Democrats in office. We're going to resolve this by putting more Republicans in office or whatever, really misses the point. The point is that there is a racist ground founding of this
Starting point is 00:43:13 country. And if you don't understand that, and if you don't have your own self-interest clear, then you'll be fooled. You'll think that Joe Biden, a dude who ushered in some of the most horrible laws as it relates to black people, you'll think that he's your savior, right? As opposed to, no, maybe what I need to do is understand what my self-interest is and make sure that he does what I need him to do for our people. And so that's what that statement is about. It's about us being more and more clear about what we're seeing is actually happening. Yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Because it's not normal, but for some reason it's all coming off as like this is supposed to happen. Like, no. No. This isn't even politics anymore. It's not. And when you have, listen, more white women voted for Trump the second time than the first time. I mean, just, I mean, after all of that, after all of that, they voted for him in more numbers. That lets you know that there's something about that thing that he's selling that is so intrinsic to America that even when he shows you,
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't give a hoot about you, you still vote for him in droves. That's the fleeing stuff that I believe never got done, right, among white folks. What I call plantation ethics, right? The idea that you have a strong man, particularly a strong white man that absolves you
Starting point is 00:44:52 of all of your sins and will protect you at all costs. That runs through America. We have more with Resmaa Minikin when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ... Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with author Resmaa Minikin. And don't forget, he's going to be
Starting point is 00:45:14 at Angela Yee's coffee shop today signing books. Charlamagne. I love talking to you for a number of different reasons, but, you know, even just the way
Starting point is 00:45:21 you see things, because, you know, hill people see things differently, right? Like, when you talk about the chris and will situation all i saw was pain period right but you also had some interesting things when you saw kodak black you said you saw something that that young brother worries me the pain and the brutality and the things that he's seen and the things that he's experienced we have a tendency when people are stars and they're movie stars and all of that different type of stuff, we have a tendency to almost shun their pain.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And when I'm listening to the brother and I'm watching his cadence and watching the way that he moves, there's a tremendous amount of brutality that that brother has experienced, that he's seen. And I believe we have to start to begin to see each other's humanity. And so when I see him, and I've seen y'all interview him, every time I see him, my heart breaks.
Starting point is 00:46:24 When I saw Will slap see him my heart breaks when I saw when I saw will you know slap Chris my heart broke because there's a rupture that has happened that that until it's so big and demonstrative that's when we pay attention to it right but when it's when it's when it when they're entertaining us we don't see the rupture right And and when I called you about him, when I said, you know, if you reach out to that brother, let him know. Right. That's what I was trying to get at was that I saw because I'm there. I'm I'm I'm hurting. I'm in pain, too. So I know what it's like when I see it. And so the idea of rupture, the seeing rupture and developing ways to repair that rupture is what we have to be about with each other. Yeah. I mean, it's not normal, right?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like even when you saw it, we saw what we saw at the Oscars. Yeah, you get your jokes off and it's entertaining, but that's not normal. That's a man who for 30 years we have never seen any of that. You're absolutely right. So there was two pieces that happened for me that happened during that thing. The first one was when he started walking up, I was like, you could experience it, right? And then when he did what he did and you saw Chris's face and you could see the heartbreak in his face, like what? You know's documented that. That's exactly right. And, but the other piece that I saw, brother, was after that, and this is what I call about the rupture, there was a rupture, and then the repair, was then you had two older black
Starting point is 00:47:51 men that wrapped their arms around Will, right? You had Tyler Perry and Denzel wrapped their arms around him. That's the repair pieces. You called Chris, checked on him. That's the repair pieces, right? Those are the repair pieces. You called Chris. Check, Donnie. That's the repair pieces, right? Those are the repair pieces
Starting point is 00:48:07 that you keep coming back to, that we have to keep coming back to, because otherwise we'll be trapped in the thinking that the only thing that's out there is rupture. No. That's not the only thing. The standard is repair. The standard is love. The standard is joy, right? And when
Starting point is 00:48:23 Will did that, and those two older brothers wrapped their arms around him and said, Come here, man. I love you. This was out of pocket. And I love you. When you reached out to Chris, Hey, man, I love you. That was out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Whatever you need, I got you. Right? That's the standard. And you're right. Everybody's talking jokes. Everybody got their opinion. Right. If Will would have did this to me, I'd have did that. That's besides the point. Right. The point is, is that our people are hurting.
Starting point is 00:48:54 The point is, is and it's going and it's gone unaddressed, continues to go unaddressed. And we have to start addressing it. Some people think that is a way to protect black women. Yeah. What happened? And I saw that conversation happening amongst a lot of people. Right. Blacks. You know how I protect black women in my life? I don't hurt them physically.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You know how I protect black women in my life? My wife, I don't cheat on my wife. That's right. You know how I protect black women in my life? I love my daughter. That's right. Right? You work on yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I do my own. And I'm a therapist, and I've been a therapist for a lot of years. I have a therapist. Right. Because because when you when you in the middle of a thing, you can't get myself better and get myself healed. Right. So the black women that come to come into my life are not brutalized by those unhealed things. Yeah. I think emotionally and mentally we could cause more abuse. It's by being a hurt individual. Exactly right. You know, exactly right. Our people have so much love in us. We have so much love in us, but it's been thwarted and brutalized. And and even with that, we're still reaching out to each other. We still say, brother, I love you, sister. I love you. This matters to me. Right. But there's a lot on her. And here's the other piece. The brutality that our people experience is not post. We talk about post-traumatic stress disorder. Our people don't experience post-traumatic stress disorder. Our people experience pervasive and persistent traumatic stress disorder. It's still happening. Post would imply that it's done and passed. We're still dealing with a pervasive brutality, a pervasive terrorism that is aimed at our bodies. And we haven't been able to articulate it. We haven't been able to develop a cultural understanding of it. And so part of what quaking is, is to say, you're not crazy. You're not defective. What you think is actually happening is actually happening even when you
Starting point is 00:51:06 talk about the standard being joy yeah that shouldn't be a hard concept for me to grasp what it is like is that black people's standard i don't yeah well let me say this black bodies black people don't come to the planet disconnected from creation itself. Okay? We are representations of creation itself. The first human being on the planet was a black woman. We are descended from that. Okay? Joy is part of us
Starting point is 00:51:38 because we are part of creation. What happens is, is that the brutalness and the feralness of this white body supremacist system and structure thwarts it. It doesn't eliminate it. It thwarts it. It's like putting a cap on some Mountain Dew and shaking it up, right? It'll come out the sides and everything, right?
Starting point is 00:52:00 But it gets thwarted by the cap. That's what trauma is. That's what racial trauma is. It thwarts it. But the essence is joy. Let me give you an example. When that thing happened with Chris and Will, you reached out to Chris because you loved him.
Starting point is 00:52:21 That's the standard. I reached out to both of them, actually, because I love them. that's the standard I reached out to both of them actually because I love them that's the standard right if it had not have been the standard you'd have been like oh F them da da da da da da right no it was the standard right you went back to the standard I love besides all of this stuff I love you I love you right I don't care I don't care who else reaches out mm-hmm I love you and so you made that move right that's the standard we get so caught up day to day trying to deal with this brutality that we think the standard is the fighting that we think the standard is the rupture yeah that's
Starting point is 00:52:59 not the stand his name is resume in Akum heum. We have work to do. Yes, we got work to do. He's one of our greatest teachers, one of our greatest healers. Man, if you got my grandmother's hands, then you definitely want to go get The Quaking of America, an embodied guide to navigating our nation's upheaval and racial reckoning. Resmaa, always a pleasure, my brother. And listen, come meet him in person at my coffee shop, Coffee Uplifts People. And you will be there today. And we'll make sure that everybody can come through,
Starting point is 00:53:28 get their book signed. That's right. We'll be having a conversation. I'll be there, of course, as well, because I wouldn't miss that for anything. And we really appreciate you. Sis, I appreciate you. I love you.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Thank you for what you're doing. And I just appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Always. It's Reg Mimica, Mr. Breakfast Club. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Well, Lonnie Love is speaking out following the news that The Real has been canceled. She said she is thankful for the people who have reached out to her. And she posted, With the news of The Real ending, I had to console a lot of crew and fans this weekend. I've been in this business a long time and understand it, but it still warms my heart that so many have reached out to me. We still have new episodes till June 3rd, The Real. So we'll miss seeing that show. That was on for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:54:17 A long time. Yeah, eight seasons. So that's a success still, no matter what. All right. Now, Kim Kardashian has fears that there could be another sex tape out there. And so she has hired attorneys to prevent any type of clips or anything from ever seeing the light of day. Even though she said she's 99% sure that there is nothing. She just wants to make sure that no matter what, any videos will never, ever come out.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I saw that one of her kids actually saw about the sex tape on Roblox while playing Roblox. And so I'm sure that's not easy. But she has said previously she would address that with her children and be very open and honest about what happened. All right. Nia Long has talked about the pressure of being called ageless. She said, I am a proud 51 years old. She told people that well-intentioned praise like being called ageless can sometimes implicitly feed into unrealistic beauty standards.
Starting point is 00:55:13 She said, I so appreciate the compliments, but I have to tell you there's so much pressure in this industry to stay beautiful and stay young, and I'm really not interested in leaning into the idea of perfection. I'm a proud 51, and eventually I'm going to age in a way where it's obvious, and I want it to happen beautifully and gracefully. I don't really want the pressure of feeling like I have to be beautiful and perfect because I think beauty comes at any age.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, that's interesting that she's right. I don't think it's about being young, though. I think that, you know, when you see, when we were younger, older people used to look actually older. When you see somebody that's 50-something years old and they still look flawless, you're like, damn. That's how humans are supposed to age, right? I would think. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Supposed to get better with time. I think so. All right, now Cam Newton was on Million Dollars Worth a Game, and he was talking about his childhood and his views of what a woman's role should be. Here is what was said. I grew up in a three-parent household. My mom, my father, and my grandmother.
Starting point is 00:56:08 A woman, for me, is handling your own, but knowing how to cater to a man's needs. And I think a lot of times when you get that aesthetic of, like, I'm a boss bitch, like, I'm a this, I'm a that. No, baby, like, but you can't cook. Okay. You don't know when to be quiet. You don't know how to allow a man to lead.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Ooh, I don't know. That caused a lot of backlash on social media, saying you can't be a boss, but you don't know how to cook. You don't know when to be quiet. I mean, it just sounded a little crazy to talk about women like that. I mean, I get what he's saying. The only difference is it works both ways. We got to cater to each other.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Personally, I can do all that except the cooking. If you're a man that knows how to cook, great, but I personally don't know how to cook. My wife is an amazing cook, and she learned that from her dad because he's a cook. So I thank God my wife knows how to hold it down. The one thing I do disagree with him with is if you have to wait to let someone let you lead,
Starting point is 00:57:07 then maybe you're not a leader. What does that mean? What does that mean when he says a woman has to let you lead? I don't know, but I'm all in for roles at the crib. There's certain things that my wife expects me to do, and there's certain things I expect her to do. That's what I'm saying. It goes both ways. It's not like, oh, she's going to do this.
Starting point is 00:57:25 No, it's certain things like, for instance do. That's what I'm saying. It goes both ways. It's not like, oh, is she going to do this? No. It's certain things like, for instance. And the be quiet thing. The typical thing. The garbage. Yeah, don't tell me when I... My wife is not taking out the garbage.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I'm taking out the garbage. Yes, and if she takes it out, I get upset. That's my job. That's my job. Don't take out my garbage. That's me. All right?
Starting point is 00:57:39 And you feel bad when she got to tell you to do it. You do. You do. When she got to tell you to do it, you feel like you didn't do what you were supposed to do. Right. You had one job.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Well, kind of what he's saying here is that women need to let men lead and that I guess when that happens, women have to be more submissive. And I don't know about that one. But he also said, I'm going to tell the men to start being men. He said that suck-a-ish should not be rewarded. And what he said about the bad bee thing, too, I agree with that, because most women who say that, they say that based off just physical appearance,
Starting point is 00:58:11 superficial things. I like when people say, you know, they bad bees for what they are doing, for what they are accomplishing, not because of how they look. You need to have more than just that. Correct. Well, you can be a bad bee and a boss bee and not know how to cook. Yeah, you can. You definitely can. Yeah, you can be a bad B and a boss B and not know how to cook. Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:58:26 You definitely can. Yeah, you can. Because he said you can't say. I'm not even talking about that. No, I'm talking about what he said. This is what he said. Oh, okay. He said, a woman for me is handling your own,
Starting point is 00:58:35 but knowing how to cater to a man's needs. He said, I'm a boss bitch. I'm a this, I'm a that. No, baby, but you can't cook. You don't know when to be quiet. You don't know how to allow a man to lead. And I think there are certain times when a woman is going to lead in a situation and certain times when a man is going to lead.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I agree. You got to be worthy of being a leader. Like that person has to look at you and say, you know what? This person is worthy of being a leader. I'm going to follow this person because they're a good leader, not just because I'm saying, hey, lead. You can let anybody lead. That don't mean that they're a leader. They might lead you off a cliff.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And like you said, boss bitching got nothing to do with looks. No. Bad B. He said bad. Bad B. I thought you said boss B. He said both. He said bad and he said boss. And you definitely can't be a boss just because of your looks. You know, if you're a boss and you actually are in charge of something, you know what I mean? You got something to show for it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Alright, well that is your rumor report. All right, well, let's get to the bad bitch in the room. I'm glad you know, for a number of different reasons. Why you just grabbed your titty? I did not. I rubbed my chest. Other than just my body, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I am a bad B, Boss B, all right, for a lot of different reasons. Well, who you giving that down? What can you do, Boss B? Julie Ambridges. She needs to come to the front of the congregation. Let's talk diarrhea this morning. All right. We'll get into that next.
Starting point is 00:59:47 You're walking up the ladder and you're hearing something splatter. What is that? Diarrhea. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. When you're chilling with your daughter and you feel that poo-poo water. Diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Diarrhea. All right. We're going to talk about it for after the hour. Oh, man. All right. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, it's Angela Yee. Have you taken a look at the general insurance lately? The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Don't be out here acting like a donkey. Hee-haw, bitch. Hee-haw. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a big boy. I can take it if you feel I deserve it. Ain't no big deal. I know Charlamagne Tha God gonna have some funny shit to say out his mouth. If I say something you may not agree with, it doesn't mean I mean it.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Who's getting that donkey? That donkey. That donkey. Donkey. Donkey. Donkey. Donkey of the Day right here. It's a breakfast club, bitches.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You can call me the Donkey of the Day, but like, I mean no harm. Yes, donkey of the day for Tuesday, April 12th goes to Julianne Budge. Julianne Budge is a 47-year-old woman from Utah who was arrested in a hit-and-run accident. Sadly, the two people that she hit have transitioned. Two men whose names have not been released, two brothers, died at St. George Regional Hospital after witnesses attempted life-saving measures at the scene, sending healing energy to the families of those individuals, and may God be pleased with their souls. Situations like this will never sit right with me because I
Starting point is 01:01:15 hate when people lose their life because of the carelessness and recklessness of others. Okay, I don't know when we will realize that the number one thing that keeps us safe out here on this planet is human behavior. That's it. We are all relying on each other to stay safe. And when you do things like decide to drive under the influence, it is one of the most selfish decisions you can make because you not caring about your life so much that you decide to get behind the wheel of a car car knowing you got no business driving that is that is not just a blatant disregard for the life god gave you it's a blatant disregard for the life of everybody else who is on the highway with you okay imagine being the person who's not
Starting point is 01:01:56 under the influence got their seat belt on license registration insurance all up to date you driving the way you're supposed to doing everything you're supposed to be doing, and you get in an accident, okay? Hit by some donkey who decided they just had to drink or get high before they got behind the wheel. That is what happened in this situation, except it was two bicyclists, okay? But I'm sure they had their helmets on, they were in the bike lane. I guarantee they were doing what they needed to do to keep the ecosystem safe. And here comes the rupture that is Julie.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Okay, now Julie told authorities that she had been admitted to a hospital the previous day and had been taking fentanyl through an IV drip. She also failed a field sobriety test after the accident. And that's when police decided to lock Julie's ass up for suspicion of driving under the influence. So let's be clear, Julie arrested in a hit and run accident while under the influence that killed two people. That's the real story. That's be clear. Julie arrested in a hit and run accident while under the influence that killed two people.
Starting point is 01:02:46 That's the real story. That's what happened. We could wrap donkey of the day right here. OK, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. When I tell you some donkey of the day is just sell themselves. Trust me when I tell you this hee haw is selling. But that ain't the only reason Julie is getting the credit she deserves for being stupid this morning. OK, see, when Julie first got caught, that's not what she told police. Okay? Of course she didn't. Not at first.
Starting point is 01:03:10 She didn't say, hey, I'm under the influence. That's why I ended up hitting and running and killing two bicyclists. Nope, nope, nope. She had another excuse. And when I tell you she pulled this one out of her ass, I mean it literally, according to her, came out of her ass. See, Julie told police that the crash happened when she began defecating on herself uncontrollably due to a medical condition. I'm not making this up. I'm looking at the headline in the NY Post. The headline reads, Utah woman blames fatal hit and run on uncontrollable defecation.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Where I'm from, we call that diarrhea. Okay, good old butt mud, poo goo, poo water, that anal-flavored you-hoo. Let's go to Fox 13 Salt Lake City for the report, please. An update tonight from southern Utah. We're learning more about the person police say hit and killed two brothers in Washington City this weekend. Investigators say the two men were among dozens of cyclists who were in the bike lane participating in the spring tour of St. George.
Starting point is 01:04:11 They were hit around two yesterday afternoon on Telegraph Street in Washington City. 47-year-old Julie Ann Budge of Hurricane told police she had a medical issue. See, Julie told police the crash happened when she began defecating uncontrollably due to a medical condition. Okay? Jesus. Julie told police that she had various medical issues including irritable bowel syndrome and that condition made her defecate on herself without warning which caused her to swerve into the men she also admitted she hit the cyclist but she presented yet another excuse when she said she couldn't get her vehicle to stop now i done read a bunch of articles about this situation listen to a bunch of different news reports if you were going to blame this
Starting point is 01:05:03 and run, okay? Man, I wish I could crush right now because according to Julie, it wasn't just a hit and run. It was a hit and run. Okay, sugar, honey, iced tea. If you're going to blame this accident on your anus having a dishonorable discharge, okay, if there is a sudden muddy playing condition going on in your drawers, then I have one question.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Where is the doo-doo? Okay, I didn't see one police report that said we found biscuits and brown gravy anywhere on you okay I have sharted on myself before you sharted on yourself before right Envy I have yes okay happened to me in Columbia South Carolina the 803 drop on the clues box for the metro happened to me right up here what happened to you oh yeah that's when you threw your drawers in the um trash can yep yeah yeah I remember that that's when you threw your drawers in the trash can. Yep. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. That's when they really thought some wild stuff was going on in this building. Okay? All right.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Just like the record show, it happened to me years ago when I was leaving a Jamaican spot. And, you know, when your stomach gets to bubbling and you can feel that anal eruption starting to happen, when that hits your pants, it startles you. But it doesn't make you drive off the road. Okay? When you're riding in a Chevy and you're feeling something heavy, all right, you know what it is. It's diarrhea. And guess what? When I turn my underwear into a fudge fountain, I've never driven so perfect in my life.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Okay, I don't want to swerve and look like I'm out of control when I had some jinko jeans full of chocolate coleslaw. So, Julie Budges, who did you expect to believe this? Okay, and I go back to my original point. If you tell me that doo-doo is the cause of your accident, as a police officer, I want to see the doo-doo. That is evidence, all right? Now, Julie Bridges is being charged with, let me look it up, two counts of automobile homicide due to criminal negligence, two felony counts of failure to remain at an accident involving death, two counts of DUI with serious bodily injury by negligent operation, and one alleged
Starting point is 01:06:51 count of it being an in-run. She was also slapped with a misdemeanor charge of reckless driving and an infraction for improper plane travel. The moral of the story is, can we all start looking out for each other better please please give julie budges the biggest hee haw two people dead just because of the negligence of one person human behavior us collectively are the only reason we're keeping each other safe we have to make a conscious effort every day to do the right thing so we don't end up hurting somebody else. Alright. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Up next... Whatever happened to them drawers that you threw away? That'd be a good NFT. I don't know. They're in the garbage. Throw them out. That was years ago, though, right?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Why? Did you take them out? No, I just... I know somebody found them. They wrote a letter. What is wrong with you, man? Up next is Gia Peppers, man. We're going to kick it with Gia Peppers when we come back. What is wrong with you? They were just concerned about what may be happening up here.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I'm writing to Human Resources. That's what I'm about to do, man. Gia Peppers, when we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:08:09 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right. Gia Peppers. Hi. Welcome. I love you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:20 How are you? I'm good. How are you? Not too many people beating up this media game like you. Oh, wow. Wow. That means a lot coming like you. Oh, wow. Wow. That means a lot coming from you. It's the truth.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But like, I mean, this is the media conglomerates that y'all build so many things for businesses and y'all just killing it. I love to see all of you guys. No, we love to see you. Every time somebody asks me like, who do you think would be good for this? I'm like, Gia Peppers would be good. Thank you. I love you, Yee.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Thank you. It feels like family, so I'm happy to be here. How you feeling? I feel great. I feel great. Like, it's a weird morning in New York. I love you, Yee. Thank you. It feels like family, so I'm happy to be here. How you feeling? I feel great. Like, it's a weird morning in New York. The weather's been really weird this week. Yeah, a little bit. But, you know, I'm grateful to be here and be here with y'all.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Like, I respect all of you guys differently. I've worked with all of you guys in different capacities, so I love that. And sometimes we feel guilty saying this, but you actually did really well during the pandemic. Yeah. And had a lot of accomplishments. Yeah, which was weird the pandemic. Yeah. And had a lot of accomplishments. Yeah. Which was weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Sometimes you feel bad like, damn, things wasn't that, you know. You know what? It was weird, though. Because like when we all know live events are a major part of our income. Right. Like at the end of the day, as a journalist, as a host, you make a lot of money doing those. Yeah. Let me pull up traveling.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And all of my events got canceled for those two first months during the pandemic and i'm super big on faith and spirituality and i remember just surrendering because i was freaking out like i was like oh my god what's gonna like literally what am i gonna do i don't got the breakfast club like i'm not you know i didn't have a consistent thing hello exactly take a little cut yeah right and so we all did and we had to take that week off oh we did we took two weeks off you had a choice i didn't remember i went came back because that's when george floyd passed then i came back on there and i was by myself go ahead no but i was because i was like that's a good point like that was bad but yeah so i remember just praying being like lord you open up
Starting point is 01:10:01 whatever you want me to do and literally the opportunity started to come after I just started to get on Instagram Live like everybody else and interview people. Like actually interviewing people on live just kept me sane and in my craft. So that was really dope. What did you learn about yourself during the pandemic? One that I trust myself. I trust who I am. I actually respect who I'm becoming. There's nothing in this in this in my career that I have been given. I earned every single spot that I have ever been a part of. I started interning. My first internship was with Donnie Simpson in his last year in radio in D morning radio. And like that, that was 10 years ago. And so like I earned it.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So, you know, that was the biggest thing for me is like, I got to stop doubting myself. I have to learn what to be confident about in myself. And so I just fell in love with who I am. And I gave myself back to me. Like,
Starting point is 01:10:57 I think for so many, so many of us, we absorb people's energies and we become like reflections of who they are instead of finding out who we really are. And so the pandemic allowed me to just like get away from everything that was a bar now let's say that again we because we are around so many people and energies we end up absorbing and reflecting who they are instead of who we really are and so what i realized was i was becoming reflections of all these people that i loved and admired right it wasn't bad reflections
Starting point is 01:11:23 but it wasn't me. And so when I was able to sit with myself and be like, I actually don't care that much about the beef. Like, people just, beef is a part of the job, right? So you have to cover it. But I'm like, I really don't care. I get it. Like, this has nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So, you know, I just... Because if we have to talk about Will Smith and Chris Rock one more time, I think I'm gonna pass. But it's a bigger conversation. Even when it is stuff like that, what's the bigger conversation? Right. You know, I just. Because if we have to talk about Will Smith and Chris Rock one more time, I think I'm going to pass that. But it's a bigger conversation. Even when it is stuff like that, what's the bigger conversation? Right. You know what I mean? For me, for that, it's mental health with that. It's emotional intelligence.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Men learning how to process their emotions without violence. That's a bigger conversation. Yeah. It's everybody. Like, there is no winner in that. There is no winner in that situation. It's really sad to see all four parts. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:04 But, yeah, that's the biggest thing I did. I gave myself back to me. I want to do one of these posts that you did, though, because I want to go through some of these. Oh, Lord Jesus. Okay, because you did a post and you kind of listed some of the accomplishments that you had.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And sometimes we got to remind ourselves of these things. Okay. So, Black Girl Pod did our first video series with Verizon Media. Not over it. You joined the We Are Ivy Park box game. Oh, so Black Girl Pod did our first video series with Verizon Media. Not over it. You joined the We Are Ivy Park box game. Oh, Beyonce! Thank you, Beyonce!
Starting point is 01:12:30 And team. That was when you also announced and launched the More Than That show, your first podcast, which is now in its second season with your executive producing. Yes. Congrats. Thank you. You joined the Entertainment Tonight live digital team. You did your first Grammy Awards post-show. Yes. You did your first Grammy Awards post-show.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yes. You made three appearances. At that point, it was three. On the Today Show third hour today, covering entertainment's biggest moments and projects, you and Taylor Rooks also did some acting as journalists on Tyler Perry's The Oval on BET. And you hosted a party for Hashtag Cinderella 1997 with your faves. The best party ever. And you dropped a new episode of your YouTube series, Give You the Game. Yeah.aves. The best party ever. And you dropped a new episode
Starting point is 01:13:06 of your YouTube series, Give You the Game. Yeah, wow. Thank you. And you did 90% of that from your home. Yeah. That is absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I do want to make sure we commend you on this and that everybody listening, if they don't follow you and didn't see that, that they can even understand those things during a pandemic that you accomplished
Starting point is 01:13:24 that you accomplished, that you had to stop and give yourself credit for. So I want to give you credit on this platform here too, because that is absolutely amazing. I told you not too many people beating up the media game like you. And you thanked our girl Courtney Whitaker because she's the intern here.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yes, that's my baby. That's my sis. We just, we, Courtney Whitaker and I were a part of Ween. Shout out to Valicia Butterfield-Jones and all of the founders, Sabrina Thompson, all of them. Felicia is now the co-president of the Recording Academy and just ran it up at the Grammys. But, you know, we we came up together in this industry. And that was my favorite part of like being a part of my peer group, like Scottie Beam, Sylvia O'Bell, D.L. Young. Like so all of us came up together, especially in New York.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And so when I had them and we like we really felt like we had community. D.A.L. Young so all of us came up together especially in New York and so when I had them and Ween we really felt like we had community and then Black Girl Podcast we formed that and so we learned
Starting point is 01:14:12 really quickly early on that like you need each other we need people you have to have people that you can talk to in this industry and so yeah
Starting point is 01:14:19 that's been great you're one of the people that always mention and say this person should have been on the radio a long time ago. Thank you. It doesn't seem like radio is an interest anymore.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Oh, I mean, I love radio, right? Like, that's my first love. Radio, like, growing up in D.C., we used to live for the radio. And, like, every morning, my mom, we would play Donnie Simpson. Then in the afternoons and evenings, it would be Big Tigger, DJ Flex and Rain. Like it was such a thing for us. And so when I was able to get into radio, that was where I affirmed that I could do this.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Donnie Simpson was, is literal joy. Like it's, there's certain people that you meet and you're just like, I think, I don't think you're human. Like you're just so nice. Like you're literal joy. And he used to, one of my favorite things was he was like 50 something when i met him and had been the original vj like first of all all
Starting point is 01:15:11 journalists if you know who donnie simpson is you must do your craft work like donnie he is the original vj the original green-eyed soul person like he's he's always been this guy that i loved and in that time the industry was very much reflective of making the band. Like if you wasn't about to kill the other person next to you and walk across the bridge to get some cheesecake, you was never going to make it in this industry. And I was like, I just, I like people. Like I don't want to have to harm anyone to get to the top. And Donnie affirmed that I could be a kind human being.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Like no matter what, it didn't matter if it was Jill Scott or the janitor, everybody who came into his studio when he was there left feeling better and so that affirmed that I could do it too. Like I was like, oh, I want to do that. I want to make sure that if I'm seeing people, I see people. Like I see you, like you matter to me
Starting point is 01:15:58 and that with so many suicides and so many things happening, that is even more important to me now. So yeah, my first love is radio, but always into television. I want to create more projects. I have so many show ideas that I believe now is the time for me
Starting point is 01:16:15 to actually just kind of step into my own and create more storytelling. But yeah, I love all forms of media. I don't think we have to do radio. I think radio was a dream because that was it. It was either radio or TV. All right, well, don't move.
Starting point is 01:16:27 We got more with Gia Peppers when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Gia Peppers. Yee.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Gia, what about obstacles that you've had? Oh, my gosh. Do we have time? Because we also know being in this business, being a woman, being a black woman can be a lot more difficult.
Starting point is 01:16:49 So what were some of the things that you went through that you had to overcome? The biggest thing I think that I went through was real, I remember,
Starting point is 01:16:58 so watching Genius was so beautiful to me. Shout out to Chike and Kudy and Kanye. As complicated as I, the feelings I have about Kanye are very complicated. But what I really loved to watch in that documentary was like that hustle of going into offices every day
Starting point is 01:17:15 and trying to get people to see you because that was me. My first few breaks on TV was just, on hosting in general, was just me going into offices and being like, no, I promise you I'm gonna kill it. no, I promise you I'm going to kill it. Like, I promise you I'm going to kill it. And people being like,
Starting point is 01:17:28 you should probably go into local news. You're a really nice girl. You can do great in Milwaukee. And I'm like, I'm not going to Milwaukee. I live in New York. So y'all go give me a chance to show you or not. And so for me,
Starting point is 01:17:38 it was always just trying to prove that I could do it. And then finally believing it myself. I was so used to struggling that when things started to finally happen I couldn't believe it like I was sabotaging it for myself like I'd be like oh it's not really that big of a deal it's just not that deep you didn't feel worthy I didn't feel worthy of it because I'm so used to grasping for it when I finally got it that's a whole different type of lifestyle and mindset you had to have and so for
Starting point is 01:18:03 me it was grasping that but then also being paid less than men in this industry is still a real thing. And it's a thing across all industries, especially for black women. We all know the gender pay gap is super real. But for black women, I think we made like 20 cents on the dollar compared to like white men. And don't quote me on that. I'm going to research that. But I know there's a major gap. And so for me, standing up for myself
Starting point is 01:18:27 and negotiating what I really need has been one of the hardest things because we all know it's a relationship to a relationship, opportunity to opportunity industry. So just because you do it in one place doesn't mean they get you in another place. That's right.
Starting point is 01:18:39 So for me, I've always been like, all right, the rate is the rate. If it's an opportunity that I really love well sometimes we can do something with it but I'm trying to be real about me being a business woman and me understanding that and so
Starting point is 01:18:52 for me the biggest struggles were there and then like self worth like understanding that I am enough what I say matters my story matters I didn't grow up like everybody else but that doesn't mean that I have to be anybody else and understanding that like not being afraid of My story matters. I didn't grow up like everybody else, but that doesn't mean that I have to be anybody else. And understanding that, like, not being afraid of light and being happy and being good
Starting point is 01:19:12 and being a person who, like, likes to be integral. Like, I don't care. Everybody can keep it. There's a lot of shade out here. The shade room is great for what they do. I ain't done following, child. I couldn't do it no more. But I think that like
Starting point is 01:19:25 there also needs to be platforms that are just as powerful that do the opposite of that, right? And it doesn't have to be quote unquote corny. You can still tell
Starting point is 01:19:34 a great story, but what are we giving people at the end of that? What are they walking away with? And so that's what I'm really focused on doing. I see daytime talk
Starting point is 01:19:42 in Gia's future. Thank you. It's Gia. What'd I say? Gia. That's Emmy's wife. They do that all the Gia's future. Thank you. It's Gia. What'd I say? Gia. That's Emmy's wife. My friends were like, I'm so surprised you never went up there because they're always correcting your name. They're always saying, isn't it Gia?
Starting point is 01:19:55 And you, it's always Gia. Like, no, it's Gia. But you couldn't tell me I didn't nail it just now. You did. After years, I didn't. It's okay. It's okay. And Gia, when you get there. Don't worry, Gia. I see't. It's okay. It's okay. He's in gear when you get there. Don't worry, Gia. Don't worry, Gia. I see.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. Thank you, guys. It's not a name. It's not a... Every time... Your name is always mentioned in every TV room when it comes to any...
Starting point is 01:20:15 Thank you. ...talking anything. Thank you. Talk shows all the time. Thank you. Somebody hire me. Give me the job. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yvonne said that when she was up here, too. Yvonne did, too. Shout out to Yvonne Orji. That's my sister. I love her so much. She's another person that can do no wrong and do everything right. But thank you guys so much for having me.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Everybody, please tune in to more than that. I love that she's closing us out. Absolutely. Everyone. What's her name? Gia Pepper. Thank you. More than that.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Thank you, guys. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them.
Starting point is 01:20:51 With Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. Well, Rihanna is on the cover of Vogue magazine and the article, Oh Baby, Rihanna's Plus One. So it's a great shoot if you guys have a chance to go and take a look at it, you can actually look at it online right now.
Starting point is 01:21:07 The whole entire article is out. And she talks about the internet having all types of thoughts, like how dare she be this naked and this pregnant, but the vast majority of people agreed at the moment with a collective chair. Here was a beautiful woman at her most abundant, sexy and strong, delighting in the creative play of getting dressed.
Starting point is 01:21:26 So she also talks about her pregnancy in this article. She talks about getting really close with A$AP Rocky during the pandemic. She said that he became her family during that time and she feels like she can do any part of life by his side. She also talked about how it took some time to get over how well they knew each other in a friend capacity. So sometimes somebody is friend-zoned, and then you don't look at them in that way. But they did manage to get through that clearly. So congratulations to the two of them. That's interesting, though, because the best relationships start from friendships.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Like your significant other should be your best friend, right? But sometimes you feel like, I don't know if I want to ruin this friendship in case things don't work out. If y'all are really, really tight and you find yourself attracted to somebody and then you take those things into consideration. So she said it did take some time to get over that. When it works, you're elevating the friendship, actually. And she also said that she recalled thinking to herself there was no way she would be shopping in maternity section. She said, I'm sorry. It's too much fun to get dressed up. I'm not going to let that part disappear because my body
Starting point is 01:22:28 is changing. And she said her goal is, in her words, to redefine what's considered decent for pregnant women. So there you go. All right, now WNBA's Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner, is talking about Brittany Griner. They kicked off Monday's WNBA draft with an update on Brittany Griner, and she does remain imprisoned in a Russian jail. Here's what the commissioner had to say. Before we get into tonight's events, I want to take a moment to reiterate the WNBA support for Phoenix Mercury star Brittany Griner. Please know that getting her home safely continues to be our top priority.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And while we are facing an extraordinarily complex challenge, there is strength in community, especially the WNBA. She said, I know we're all frustrated, but we do need to be patient. I know the players have been amazing at following the advice that they're getting and we're getting in order to not jeopardize her safety in any way. So we just continue to follow that advice and continue to work on it. All right, so prayers out to Brittany Griner. I know they said she is safe, fortunately, and I know it's a crazy situation. She's been detained since February after allegedly being found
Starting point is 01:23:40 with cartridges containing hash during an airport security check in Moscow. And I do wonder if more noise isn't being made about this situation because they don't, for lack of a better term, don't want her to seem so important because then she'd be a bigger political piece for Russia. I heard somebody say that before. That's why they have been telling people not to make too much noise about it. Well, the commissioner said they are following the advice
Starting point is 01:24:04 that they're getting to not jeopardize her much noise about it. Well, the commissioner said they are following the advice that they're getting to not jeopardize her safety in any way. So I'm sure the reason why is because they're being told what to say, what not to say, and what to do. So we're praying for her safe return, though. All right, Tory Lanez says that he was not talking about Megan Thee Stallion and the shooting on his new song, Mucky James. He said, I see all these blacks trying to connect the two,
Starting point is 01:24:25 and honestly, I have more sense than that. I would not play with the court order or the judge like that. Please stop that narrative. So those are his words. All right, Larry David has confirmed a new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm, season 12. He confirmed that Sunday night at an Emmys event that was presented by HBO Max. They had a screening of season 11 episode The The Watermelon, as well as a live panel discussion.
Starting point is 01:24:49 And so there's no further details on season 12. But y'all know I love Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's 11 seasons they've had so far spread out over 21 years. I never got into it. I never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's hilarious. You could watch it on a plane. They show a lot of episodes.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I'll check it out next flight. When you're flying. it's really really funny J.B. Smoove's on there right mmhmm Vivica Fox is on there for a while Wanda Sykes is on there um
Starting point is 01:25:12 you don't you didn't ever watch Seinfeld either no alright well you know he created Seinfeld Larry David alright Rick Ross
Starting point is 01:25:20 has revealed that he's filming his own TV show and it will be about wealth here's what he had to show and it will be about wealth. Here's what he had to say. And the perfect time is now. You hear me?
Starting point is 01:25:29 So what I'm going to do is go ahead. I'm going to do me a show. The time now. It's going to be about wealth based on success. We actually filming right now, but I hope you're all ready for it because I'm going to talk some big numbers. Big numbers. It's the nine figure club. You figure? Ladies, blow me a kiss. Make's the nine-figure club. You figure?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Ladies, blow me a kiss. Make love to me in the metaverse. When you say you're making a show about wealth, what is that? Is that he's going to teach people how to make money or show them how he's making money? Because nobody just wants to see a show about wealth in 2022 when gas prices are at an all-time high.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I thought he was highlighting people that are doing well from the community. I don't make any money. That's what I thought. I could be wrong. They haven't given much information. It's unclear if he's going to be on camera or he'll be behind the scenes. But, you know, some way, somehow, he's going to be talking about
Starting point is 01:26:18 wealth. Maybe it'll be entrepreneurship. Maybe it'll be... I hope so. I hope it's educational. Because nobody wants to see any lifestyles of the rich and famous type stuff going on right now when the gap between the haves and the have-nots is so wide but with his business ventures with his music with his investments he's got a reported net worth of 40 million dollars to date oh ross doing great so maybe some people want to see how can they put themselves in position or what are some ways that he's done,
Starting point is 01:26:46 what he's managed to do with his portfolio. Because it's not all just for music, clearly. As I said, it's got to be educational. Yeah, I think for Ross, I think the majority of it is outside of music, whether it's Checkers, Wingstop, or Liquor Brand, or all the other restaurants. It's going to be car shows. You know he's going to take the car show game over.
Starting point is 01:27:02 There's going to be no car show in the country that's going to be big as Rick Ross' car show. We do know this, right? No, it's not going to take the car show game over. There's going to be no car show in the country that's going to be big as Rick Ross' car show. We do know this, right? No, it's not going to happen. You know he's going to absolutely take the car show game. I feel like he came at you for that. No, I mean, he got his own lane. He got his own lane for his car.
Starting point is 01:27:14 People like I got my own lane. He has every lane. Two different lanes. Oh, you do car shows? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do, I do. You know, we sold out last time in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:27:21 We had about 17,000 people. You know, the one in Atlantic City had about 15,000 people. You're doing the one in Houston? Yeah, I'm doing one in Houston. You know, we We had about 17,000 people. The one in Atlantic City had about 15,000 people. You're doing the one in Houston. Yeah, I'm doing the one in Houston. We'll be over 10,000 people. Then we got Miami, Detroit. Houston versus New York. About to get New York embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to pull up in Ross's too. He's been talking crazy, so I'm going to pull up on his car show too. Don't, don't, don't, don't do that. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Yeah, I don't know about that. Don't embarrass yourself. I'm pulling up to Ross' car show, too.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Stop. Why not? Why not? All right. Well, that is your rumor report. All right. And don't forget, my Houston car show is happening June 19th, Father's Day weekend. It's Houston versus New York.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Shout out to Trader Truth. Shout out to Slim Thug. Shout out to Paul Wall. Shout out to Bun B. J Prince. Mr. Rogers. If you lose this versus, right, which you will, do you challenge Miami next?
Starting point is 01:28:08 Because you can't challenge it. Whoever wins is who gets to challenge. So do you, once New York loses, do you just sponsor the next one, Houston versus Miami? No, I was just doing my car shows, and then Trader Truth started talking smack. So I said, oh, so we can do that. I just want to do my car shows and make it a family thing.
Starting point is 01:28:23 But when people talk smack, I don't back down to nobody. So if Ross calls, challenge! You know I'm there. True. I'm there. Who has more cars, you or Rick Ross? Who's got more Beijing in their bed, you or Ross? Ross on both of them.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Ross got, now don't get it twisted. I think in the industry, Ross has the most amount of cars. I think Ross got about. I thought you were about to say the most amount of Beijing. They got the most amount of cars. I think Ross got about 200 calls. Drop on the clues box for Ross, man. Ross ain't playing.
Starting point is 01:28:48 He got about 200 calls. Ross is not playing out here. All right. Well, let's get to the mix. The People's Choice Mix, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 01:29:26 Salute to my guy, Resmaa Minican, man. His new book, The Quaking of America, is out right now. He's a fantastic author. I recommend My Grandmother's Hands to everybody. If you remember, I was giving away copies of My Grandmother's Hands here on the radio. I think it's must-reading for everybody. And I'm sure Quaking of America will be more of the same. I just love to hear Resmaa
Starting point is 01:29:47 talk. And one thing about Resmaa's books, they're experiences. You ain't gonna just read Resmaa's book, because Resmaa has exercises after every chapter that you have to do, physical exercises, and it's an experience. So salute to my guy, Resmaa Minicom. Yep, and he's gonna be at Angela Yee's coffee shop
Starting point is 01:30:04 today, right, Yee? Yes, Coffee Uplifts People will be there tonight. He'll be signing his books. You'll have an opportunity to get a copy and meet Resmaa Minicum and have a conversation. We'll be discussing the quaking of America. All right, and also shout out to Gia Peppers for joining us this morning. Big Gia! Yes, my girl, Gia Peppers. She got a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Amazing to see how she's evolved as a media personality. Anytime somebody needs something, I'm like, Gia Peppers would be good for that. Yeah, Gia's one of the best doing it right now. Salute to young Gia Peppers. Absolutely. And then when we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:30:39 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. I got seven days left to me and the wife's book, Real Life, Real Love, comes out. Yesterday we did 14 interviews. I want to say shout to everybody that interviewed us yesterday. We got a bunch more and we're hitting the road. So if you haven't pre-ordered the book,
Starting point is 01:30:56 definitely pre-order the book. It's all about relationships. Hopefully if you're having problems in your relationships, it can help you to tell you things to do and then things not to do that I did. But I evolved. Well, I cannot wait to have this solo. Yeah, I can't wait to have this solo sit down with Gia on lip service.
Starting point is 01:31:13 That'll be out next week. And we'll be talking to her this week. And I know she likes to drink a little bellies. Oh, boy. Yep. All right. Well, we got a positive note. I do have a positive note, man.
Starting point is 01:31:25 And I want you to listen and hear me clearly. I don't know who needs to hear this this morning, but whatever you're going through, it's your fault. Okay? Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. All right? Everything happens for a reason. And sometimes that reason is that you're a person who just makes poor choices.
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Starting point is 01:32:11 Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
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