The Breakfast Club - Rest In Power

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

After the events that have been happening over the week, we needed to have an open discussion about your emotions and the events happening with police brutality, riots and more. In addition, Dj Envy h...ad a discussion with Attorney Benjamin Crump and Stephen Jackson who was close friends to Gregory Floyd Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Man, what the hell is this, man? Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm glad they put y'all together. Y'all are like a mega force.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Y'all just took over every... Wake your punk ass up. This is Chris Brown. I've officially joined The Breakfast Club. Say something, mother... I'm with it. The world's most dangerous morning show, Breakfast Club, bitches. Good morning, USA and Toronto! Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne and Yee are on vacation. Yes, they are on vacation this week. I am not. The reason I am is because I'm up at 6 a.m. regardless. I have five kids. My five kids have already been in my room. They already woke me up.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And they're getting ready for virtual school. So I am up and would love to talk to you guys, all right? This morning, we have some special guests joining us this morning. We have Attorney Benjamin Crump. Now, Attorney Benjamin Crump, he represents the family of George Floyd. He was the individual that was murdered by Minneapolis police. So we're going to talk to Attorney Benjamin Crump, see what he's planning on doing. To find out more about George Floyd, to find out about the facts of what happened.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I know we've seen the facts, but to see the insides of what happened. And also this morning, we're going to be kicking it with Stephen Jackson. Now, Stephen Jackson's an ex-NBA player. Real close friends with George Floyd. They called each other twin. So we'll talk to both of them this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And we'll take your calls this morning too. 800-585-1051. We'll get your thoughts on everything that's going on. How do you feel? Yesterday when I was recording these interviews, I spoke to my son. Now my son is a rapper from Harlem or the Bronx. He's from the Bronx, New York. And he's out there.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He was out there protesting, peacefully protesting. He called me while they were protesting, walking to the police station. And as we were talking, I mean, you could hear, he said he thought they were throwing M-80s off the building at people. He said that they were shooting rubber bullets at people. He said people were doing absolutely positively nothing, walking with their hands up. And he said the way that the police were shooting rubber bullets, they just had no care for lives. And we'll talk to him and we'll break down what's going on next in front page news. A lot of buildings were burning down. There was a lot of protesting. There was a lot of rioting. We'll give you some updates when we come back in the seven o'clock hour, though, we will be kicking it with attorney Benjamin Crump.
Starting point is 00:05:05 All right? And we'll be taking your calls this morning. We'd just love to hear from you. How do you feel? Because for myself, the toughest thing to do is watch that with my kids. You know, I have an 18, a 16, a 6, a 5, and a 3. And I watched it with the 16-year-old and the 18-year-old. And they were just like, Dad, why?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Like, what did he do? Like, he wasn't moving. He wasn't fighting back. He was just there. And all I could say was, you're right. He was doing absolutely nothing. But we'll talk about it more. We'll take your calls.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I would love to hear from you guys this morning. So keep it locked, all right? It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now, Charlamagne and Yee are on vacation.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I'll be honest with you. I'm up at 6 a.m., man. This is something that was on my mind, just seeing what was going on. And, like, I just needed to vent. And I'm sure you guys needed to vent too so I figured let's open up the phone lines let's talk I've like it is crazy because I feel like I've never been so down like I feel like my soul is down like it's very difficult to raise kids and look at my kids at a time like this and then look what that officer did but let's get some front page news we'll take your your calls in a second. 800-585-1051. Now, protests went throughout the night last night. They protested
Starting point is 00:06:30 at the police station first, and then they went in front of the house of the officer that actually killed George Floyd. Last night, a target was looted. Also, there was fires throughout. All types of buildings were burning down. They were rioting in Minneapolis last night. Now, I got a chance to talk to my son. Let's play a clip of our conversation. For the people out there, tell them what you're doing out there right now, man, and how it's looking.
Starting point is 00:06:55 What's the feeling like, everything out there? Right now, I'm at the protest in front of the precinct, and it's crazy. The police are shooting. They're throwing fireworks. People are bleeding And it's crazy. The police are shooting and they're throwing fireworks. People are bleeding. It's crazy, man. The police are shooting
Starting point is 00:07:10 rubber bullets and everything at people? Shooting rubber bullets from the moose. They're hitting people. They're throwing, like, I don't know what kind of fireworks they're throwing.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Maybe, like, they're beating people off the roof at people. It's crazy. Yeah, that was a clip of our conversation as I was talking to him, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:30 and he was FaceTiming me just telling me what was going on. And the reason I reached out to him because I know he's on the front line and my son and everybody out there on the front lines,
Starting point is 00:07:37 we appreciate you. But the reason I just wanted to, you know, him to talk and just to get a feeling because I'm not there and he was like, Envy, he was like,
Starting point is 00:07:43 it's so serious. He's like, you know, people are protesting, not just black people, black people, white people, Asian people, brown people. He said, we just out here protesting with our hands up. And he said, they're throwing what seems to be like fireworks and M80s and they're shooting rubber bullets. And he said, people been hitting the eyes because they have no, you know, no protective gear. They just have masks on. And he said, people are out there really, really hurt. And he says, this has to stop, man.
Starting point is 00:08:07 This has to stop. And then our phone got disconnected. I spoke to him later just to make sure he was okay. But that's your front page news, man. Real sad, man. Let's open up the phone lines. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:08:22 If you want to talk, if you want to get something off your chest, you want to say how you're feeling, doesn't matter. Call us up right now. Phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. Call us right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:08:35 The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:09:07 The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know,
Starting point is 00:10:18 follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different Another one gone Bash, bam Another one gone The crack of the bat And another one gone The tip of the cap Cause another one gone
Starting point is 00:11:27 Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me
Starting point is 00:11:43 Did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm telling. I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm telling.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is D'Angelo. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:12:28 D'Angelo, good morning, man. Get it off your chest, bro. Um, I just wanted to vent about that case. It bothers me so much that time and time again, we constantly see the same thing. Right. And it's like nothing ever changes. You're right.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You know what I mean? a black person kills a black person, I think that's the time. Not when an officer or a white person kills a black person. You know what I mean? We're not going to let them have a black on black discussion. We're going to have a discussion about that officer that had his knee in George Floyd's neck. And when people were telling him that he wasn't breathing and people were telling him that his nose
Starting point is 00:13:22 was bleeding and he was lifeless, how he continued to push more and just look like just the look on his face is a look that I'll never forget. Almost like I'm going to kill him and what? What are you going to do? That's the look I'll never forget. Thank you for calling, bro. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Marcus Williams, yo. Hey, Marcus. Now, you're from Minneapolis? Yeah, man. I'm in Minneapolis, bro. Where George got killed, I live like about two or three miles from there. We call it the south side of Minneapolis. And that area is always patrol park hops. They always be doing that.
Starting point is 00:14:02 We have a north side area. We have a south side area where they just go in and they do that to us all day, every day. It's just not fair. And it's like we have, I mean, this community in Minnesota is so predominantly white. It's just like you could be on a highway and never see a black person. So you have to go into some of these smaller communities of us to at least see it. So, I mean, they just don't care. I mean, I'm an essential worker, and I do highway construction work.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And all of my, I'm the only black person, and I got to go there every day and just hear them talk bad about it. Most of these guys don't even live in the city, and they don't understand what we go through, so they have these projections about us and don't understand what we got to go through and how we fight. And I think that's how the predominantly white community is around here. They just look at us from the outside looking in, man.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right. And those are the reasons Why they treat us that way They have these ideas about us We ain't all bad man They have these ideas about us But they just treat us anyway Well you know what I'll be honest with you man F*** them
Starting point is 00:15:21 Like this is about us now bro We gotta uplift our own man We gotta uplift each other We're all brothers We gotta make sure that we're all good You know what I mean And it has me tearing up right now That you feel that way
Starting point is 00:15:35 Like we really gotta stand together And on some really F*** them Like for real Our lives mean something I feel like right now it's so bad, man. If I go outside the door, what's going to happen to me today, man? Am I going to come back home today?
Starting point is 00:15:52 I don't know how do you feel about this, bro. I want to say I'm trying to make a change. I was in Vegas at your real estate event. I'm like, they don't see I was trying to make a change. I was in Vegas at your real estate event. And, you know, I'm like, they don't see us trying to make these changes. They just put us all in one box. Right. And that's what we have to do. We have to continue to uplift each other, uplift our brothers, uplift our sisters,
Starting point is 00:16:19 continue to teach, continue to push knowledge and make sure we stand together. And we continue to go out there and protest and civilly unrest is what they call it to make sure that it's known that we're not going to take this no more. You're not just going to take a man's life and just look like it's nothing. That can't happen. Thank you for calling, brother, and we appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And your life means something, man. Love you, brother. Appreciate it, my guy. Get it off your chest. 800- 585-1051. Hit us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or flesh. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Hey, Envy, what's up, buddy?
Starting point is 00:17:04 It's Tony from South Carolina. Tony, good morning, man. Get it off your chest, bro. Yo, Envy, it's all good for people to go in old hands and sing Kumbaya. I love my son. He's one of my favorite rappers. But if you're not going to give an eye for an eye, nothing's going to change. And that's when Congress will have meetings and they will change the law. Until then,
Starting point is 00:17:26 we can keep on marching in the street saying we shall overcome. Nothing's going to change until, like Bob Clement said, we show an eye for an eye. I don't necessarily agree to go out and just start shooting and killing and hurting people, but I do believe that officer should be
Starting point is 00:17:41 charged with murder and he should be fried. He should be fried. And the reason being is because if there is no consequences, why is somebody going to stop? It's kind of like if my daughter or my son does something at a young age and he gets no punishment, whether it's sitting in the corner, whether it's popped on a hand, what's going to make him stop for doing it next time? But that officer should be charged with murder and he should get the death penalty. That's my opinion. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:18:08 That's why people, I think people will start to understand that when you do these things and you kill us, there's a punishment. There's a consequence. Let's go to another caller. Hello, who's this? My name's Dalton. Hey, good morning, brother. Get it off your chest. Yeah, so I'm just calling to say that I feel
Starting point is 00:18:26 that those police officers did murder George, right? Of course. And, you know, that's wrong, and my prayers and thoughts go out to his family and, you know, everybody else that's affected by social injustice and, you know, and all that, but
Starting point is 00:18:41 the main point I want to get across is, you know, the people may have every right to protest, right? And if they want to bring the community together, they want to bridge that gap between the police force and the government and the social justice system. Rioting, I don't feel, is the right way, right? Put that passion, put that fire towards peacefully protesting. But you're hurting other people in the process,
Starting point is 00:19:11 whether it's intentional or not, when you cause fire or you're actually doing that rioting, in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. I don't believe in the rioting. I don't believe in busting up your own neighborhood. I mean, at the end of the day, that's, that's where we go shop. You know, that's, that's our neighborhood. That's where we go to target. That's where we go get, you know, food and laundry detergent. That's where we work. That's where we're employed. So to burn up our own neighborhood, I don't think makes sense. It's, and I know people
Starting point is 00:19:38 are hurt. People are pissed off. People can't take it anymore, but you know, burning up our own neighborhoods and our own mom and pop stores. I don't, I don't, I don't take it anymore. But, you know, burning up our own neighborhoods and our own mom and pop stores, I don't I don't I don't think makes sense. That's my opinion. All right. Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. Don't forget next hour. We're going to kick it with attorney Benjamin Crump. Now, he represents the family of George Floyd that was murdered. And also Steven Jackson will be checking in. That was George Floyd's one of his closest friends. You know, Stephen Jackson played in the NBA, ex-NBA player.
Starting point is 00:20:10 He played for the Nets, the Spurs, the Hawks, the Pacers, the Warriors, Charlotte, the Clippers. He was also in the Big Three tournament and the Kuldu, man. I've known that brother for a long time. So we're going to kick it with both of them. All right, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:20:24 The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:20:55 The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys,
Starting point is 00:21:52 and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap is another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history,
Starting point is 00:23:20 like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake up, wake up, wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Now, usually we do rumors right here, but Angela Yee and Charlamagne are on vacation. I'm not. I just felt like I'm up. I'm home. My kids are here. My kids are up. So I just wanted to talk to you guys, man. It's something that's been stressing me out, watching George Floyd murdered by Minneapolis police. And I just wanted to open up the phone lines and talk to you guys. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Hey, what's good, Envy? What's going on? What's your name, bro? No, I'm John. This is Trav. Hey, what's up, Trav, man? How's everything? I didn't even notice your voice, Trav. Yeah, you're good, man. I just wanted to call and talk about, so, and I hate to say this about white people,
Starting point is 00:24:52 because it's not all white people. I know that there's definitely, like, you know, white people out there. But when I'm on Zoom and, you know, I'm with my job, because I'm, like, the only black person that, like, works for my job. So I'm on Zoom with, Zoom with six other white people. I'm talking to them.
Starting point is 00:25:07 They're like, oh, how's everything going? And they're like, oh, we're having a great weekend and a great day. And I'm like, did y'all not watch the news? Right. Are y'all not tuned into the TV? Are y'all not tuned into it? Did y'all not see what happened? That's literally what I said to them.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I said, how can y'all be sitting there and saying that everything's okay when y'all didn't watch that white officer kneel on that black man's neck and my boss was like, well, this isn't the time for, I said, no, this is the time. Like, we need to have these conversations because this is something that's bothering me. And y'all just having these conversations, I'm supposed to be
Starting point is 00:25:38 sitting on Zoom in this meeting when I'm sitting there watching this man getting killed live. And y'all just acting like y'all don't see it. Yeah, you know, and it's, and like I was saying, you know, I got five kids. And when I say my soul is down, thinking about I gotta
Starting point is 00:25:53 raise my young boys, I got three girls and two boys, even my queens, I gotta raise these kids in this time, where a guy that was, and he wasn't fighting back. Like he was detained and I spoke to a couple
Starting point is 00:26:09 of officers yesterday and they were like, I'll be honest with you, MV. They was like, once he's in cuffs, ain't really nothing he can do unless he's a karate expert and will kick the ish out of you or he gonna bite you. He was like, but there's nothing that somebody could do once you're in cuffs. He's detained. He's on his belly. He ain't, but there's nothing that somebody could do once you're in cuff. He's detained.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He's on his belly. He ain't doing nothing. Your father's a cop, right? He's retired. He's been retired, yeah, for a while. So when you ask your father about stuff like this, what does he say? My father says a couple of things. One, the first thing he says is the police are not your friends. He says if you ever get pulled over, remember, the police are not your friends.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Don't confide in them. They're looking to close, remember the police are not your friends. Don't confide in them. They're looking to close their case. They are not your friends. And the second thing he says is, you know, you can never win in the streets. If you get into an altercation with the cops, you could never win in the streets. He said, when you come home, you could win. He says, but you can never win in the streets. And that was my mentality always growing up when it came to police.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And my dad's a cop. He's been a cop. He's retired after 20, I think, five years on the job. And that's what I teach my kids. But watching that, you know, you see exactly what it means. The police aren't your friends. And, you know, next hour we'll talk about what even happened, why the police were even called.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And the reason is something that could have been called for you. It could have been called for me. Well, Amy, I'm going to leave you out with this. Yesterday, I went and actually installed a rear view camera. So it basically actually records all audio, all video around the car. Even if the key is pulled out the car, it continues to record up to 10 minutes. And I just felt like that's something that as a black man or just as a black person that has a vehicle, start putting stuff like that in your car, man.
Starting point is 00:27:46 You know what's crazy? I put that in my daughter's car. My son don't drive, but I have that in my daughter's car that it just records. And if I ever get pulled over, I just leave my phone recording. But like you said, that can be stopped. A cop could grab that if worse comes to worse. But, I mean, just seeing that seeing that man it really took something out my soul man and and again condolences to his family and and thank you for calling trav all right mv
Starting point is 00:28:12 bro all right man all right when we come back next hour uh attorney benjamin crump will be joining us he represents the family of george floyd we'll talk to him he'll give us the facts also this morning we'll be kicking it with stephen jackson exNBA player, one of George Floyd's closest friends. So they called each other twin. So we'll talk to him next hour. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to Angela Yee and Charlamagne. They are actually on vacation. I'm not. I mean, there's no way to go. I can't get on a flight.
Starting point is 00:28:48 There's nowhere to drive to. So my vacation is my backyard. So I'm up. I'm here. So I'm talking to you guys. We got a lot to talk about. When we come back, we're going to talk to Attorney Benjamin Crump. Now, he represents the family of George Floyd. That's the young man that was murdered by Minneapolis police. So we're going to
Starting point is 00:29:06 talk to him. We're going to find out what's going on, the facts, the situation, what we need to know, what's going on now, why these guys haven't been charged yet. So we're going to talk to Attorney Benjamin Crump when we come back. And we're also taking your phone calls, man. 800-585-1051. Just
Starting point is 00:29:21 want to speak to you guys. How do you feel? I mean, you've seen the video like I did. What does that bring up? If you have kids, what do you tell your kids? Phone lines are wide open. And when we come back, we're going to talk to attorney Benjamin Crump. Again, he represents the family of George Floyd. So don't move.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Angela Yee and Charlamagne are on vacation during the pandemic. Me, I'm not. I have five kids, so I have to get up at 6 o'clock in the morning anyway,
Starting point is 00:29:55 so I'm up, so I love talking to the people. And we have a special guest on the phone lines right now, who I love because he's my brother. But every time I speak to him like this, that means something happened. And that's the sad thing. We have Attorney Benjamin Crump on the line. Good morning, Attorney. How's it going, man?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Envy, so honored to be with you. I wish it was for a better reason than this, because this reminds me so much of what happened in your hometown of New York five years ago with Eric Gardner and I Can't Breathe. And now we have an I Can't Breathe case again in 2020 dealing with George Floyd. Let's talk about it. You represent the family of George Floyd. Yes, sir. Now break down the facts of what happened. You know, we've been hearing all these different reports.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I know what I've seen on that camera. But break down the facts of what happened. Yeah, you know, Envy, it's really clear because we have video. We have what we call ocular proof that nobody has interpreted for us. And when you look at that video, Envy, you don't see him opposing a violent threat to any police officer or anything. In fact, we have been getting a lot of cell phone videos submitted to our office.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Businesses have surveillance videos and restaurants that show us the whole picture. And nowhere have we seen where he posed a threat to the police to justify Envy the fact that they had him face down in handcuffs, and the police officer put his knee in his neck, not for one minute, not for two minutes, not for three minutes, not for four minutes, not for five minutes, not for six minutes, not for seven minutes, not for eight minutes, not for three minutes, not for four minutes, not for five minutes, not for six minutes, not for seven minutes, not for eight minutes, but for nine minutes, George Floyd is begging for him to take his knee off his neck saying, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. And the officer
Starting point is 00:31:59 offers him no humanity. I mean, you have citizens out there, Envy, that were saying, take your knee off his neck, you're going to kill him. I mean, it was the police escalating the situation while the people who were not trained in de-escalation was trying to de-escalate it. And you watch, you're heartbroken. And when I talk to America, I tell them, take out your cell phones, hit the stopwatch for nine minutes, and just let the time pass.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And as the time passes, think about if a person had their knee on your neck and you couldn't breathe and you kept saying, please take your knee off my neck. You're struggling to breathe, but they don't. And you suffocate and die. Then you will understand the last nine minutes of George Floyd's life and why it is so tragic and why this is murder. It absolutely is. Now, what started the situation? What made the police come? Like, what call was that? Because
Starting point is 00:33:06 at first we heard it was scamming. At first they said he was on top of his car. What was that first initial call for? You know, the first initial call for was allegedly forgery. And as we find out more forgery, I was talking about a $10 bill may have been fake. So there's no evidence that he ever did anything wrong because they never proved anything about the $10 bill was fake. Or if it was fake that he would have knew about it. How many people would know if they had got money and it wasn't real? How many of us are checking money when we get change from a store? So it's just unbelievable that he was killed because he was accused of a nonviolent crime,
Starting point is 00:33:59 but yet the police came and used excessive lethal force to kill him, which is a lot, and be like Eric Garner when you think about it, selling loosey cigarettes, which is a lot, Embi, like Eric Gardner. When you think about it, selling loosey cigarettes, which is a nonviolent crime, but then the NYPD come and they use excessive lethal force where that brother ends up dead, and now here we are in 2020, and he ends up dead. And I think this is far worse in many regards because the officer's on his knee,
Starting point is 00:34:22 and the public is out there pleading with the police. Just take your knee off his neck, Amby. It's such a sad situation. Watching that video, and me and my wife watched it together, and I watched it with my 16-year-old son, and we just couldn't understand it. And just to look at that
Starting point is 00:34:39 officer's face, it's like he got a heart on while people were telling him he was killing him. It's like he got a heart on while people were telling him he was killing him. It's like his ego got to him and he just goes, sit there. No, I'm going to keep my knee on his neck. I can't
Starting point is 00:34:56 get it. I heard George screaming, I can't breathe. He was screaming for his mother. I'm sure you spoke to his mom. What was the family's feeling for watching that, especially his mom? Well, unfortunately, his mother is deceased. And it's so sad that that week was her two-year anniversary of her death. And so it was already emotional.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And so he has his brothers and sisters and his children. He has two children, two daughters, one six years old, one 22 years old. And he has six brothers and sisters who loved and adored him. And it's just been heartbreaking for them. I mean, they can't even accept it as real because they said George was like a gentle giant. He was an all-star athlete. He played basketball in high school. They went to the state championship.
Starting point is 00:35:54 He played for the University of South Florida. He was just somebody who they said you could not not love George. Everybody loved him. He would always keep everybody laughing. They said, you could not not love George. Everybody loved him. He would always keep everybody laughing. He was, like, so engaging. And the people in Minneapolis, everybody says that about this guy. And for them to kill him in this manner, when there is no scintilla of evidence that demonstrates that he posed a threat to these police officers. I'm demanding for them to release the
Starting point is 00:36:28 body cam video. Be transparent. We just saw the video. How much worse can it be? Release the video. Let us know what you were saying when you had your knee down there and you noticed that he has his hand in his body.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I was told they do that to apply more pressure when you push down on the thigh. And so I just think it was deliberate what these officers were doing because for nine minutes, you can't do something coincidentally for nine minutes. And the fact that at some point when time passes and people are telling you to de-escalate and he's saying, I can't breathe, you then have intentionally intended to cause harm and pain to him. And so in the law, when you intentionally do something to cause harm or bodily harm, you may not have meant to kill him. But if he ends up dying, then your actions was a proximate cause of his death and you can absolutely be charged for murder. And when you look at this video, if it was you or I or anybody
Starting point is 00:37:41 else, no question it would be murder. Why are they treating the police like they're above the law? They need to arrest them now and charge them with murder. All right, we got more with Attorney Benjamin Crump when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We still have on the line Attorney Benjamin Crump.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He represents the family of George Floyd. Now Charlamagne and Yee are on vacation. So, Attorney, now to my understanding, these officers were fired and they're still getting paid and they still have their benefits in pension? We understand right now they haven't lost their pensions and their benefits, but they haven't clarified that point for us yet. They just said they're all terminated. They're apparently in the police union thing. There's a whole process that you have to go through to lose your pension. And so we're going to keep you pressing on that. Now I was going to ask you, most people don't know that. the difference between manslaughter and murder and should they be charged with murder and can they be charged with murder?
Starting point is 00:38:49 I believe that he could be charged with murder who kept his knee on his neck. Now a lesser included offense of murder is manslaughter. So he can reach for the top but also include the lesser included,
Starting point is 00:39:03 which they do on brothers all the time. They reach for the top, and if they don't get you on murder, they say, okay, we got manslaughter, we still got you for 15 to 20 years or whatever the case. And the biggest difference, Envy, between murder and manslaughter is the element of intent. It almost reminds you of Ahmaud Arbery because you have to have what we call malice of forethought,
Starting point is 00:39:25 evil intent, evil will to be convicted of first-degree murder. And so in this scenario, I just don't know how you can say he didn't have even intent when a man is begging you, telling you, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, and he says it repeatedly, and you still deliberately don't even ease up. How is that not intentional? You have made a deliberate, conscious decision that you're just going to not extend him any humanity. Now, we also see the officer wearing this hat that says,
Starting point is 00:40:05 Make whites great again. Is that a true picture? I don't know, Envy. And so I know there are a lot of people out there who put up fake stuff like this. Until we can absolutely authenticate that, we're probably not going to affirm that that's him. Now, also, they said that he was resisting arrest, right? And we've seen
Starting point is 00:40:30 videos come from the store that looked like he was complying. It looked like they walked him over, he was complying. And I spoke to an officer today, a friend of mine, and he was like, you know, I'll be honest with you, Envy. He says once his hands are behind his back and cuffs,
Starting point is 00:40:46 there's nothing anybody can really do. They said unless he's some kung fu expert and will jump up and kick me in my head to kill me, he said, I'll be honest with you. There's nothing he can do. There's no way they should have that much force. So was he, from what we know, was he resisting arrest at all? Was he resisting arrest?
Starting point is 00:41:03 There's nothing that demonstrates to us or anybody I have seen to say that he was resisting arrest. But what I want them to do is to release their body cam videos. I mean, if you want transparency and you want to be a bull boy, then go ahead and do the right thing. And the right thing, literally, is to let's hear what they were saying when they were down there on his knee. Because, you know, why are we paying for the body cameras if we can't see what they recorded when there's a controversy?
Starting point is 00:41:36 Why won't they release it? What's the problem with releasing? What's that saying? Like, why won't they release it? Amber, you know, it's in every case, they always say it's an ongoing investigation. And when they say that, that tells me they're just trying to figure out a way
Starting point is 00:41:52 to justify the unjustifiable. Nothing else. Now, when did they say, are they saying when these officers will be brought up on charges? Are they saying what the next step is? Because they were fired and they fired them fast. But now these officers haven't been charged yet.
Starting point is 00:42:06 They're still walking around. What's next? They haven't been charged and we got to continue to demand immediate arrest because the district attorney, it shouldn't take that long to establish that there's probable cause in this video to arrest them. Because people in our community, they have far less probable cause than a video. It can justify arresting us every day and twice on Friday.
Starting point is 00:42:35 But with police, the rules change, and they say, oh, we got to just investigate. We got to make sure we have all the evidence. But you got a video, man. Now, people are upset. People are tired. People are feeling like the only way to change this is by civil unrest. People are tired of peacefully
Starting point is 00:42:53 protesting because they feel like that does nothing because they continue to kill us. You know, we've seen it. You know, you were just up here two weeks ago. You know, he was doing what my kids do, running around the neighborhood. You know, somebody thought doing what my kids do, running around the neighborhood. You know, somebody thought he was stealing somebody and took the law to their own hands and killed him. We've seen it with Eric Garner. We've seen it with so many individuals. This, you know, George, what was he doing? Even if he had a fake bill. You know how many times I'm a
Starting point is 00:43:19 DJ, people paid me with a fake bill. That doesn't mean I created it. That doesn't mean I bought it. That means I got it. Somebody got me. To the point where you arrest me and you put your knee on my neck for nine minutes, people are pissed off. And part of my friends, people are like, f*** that. Like, enough is enough. Like, when do we draw the line? Well, you know, I will say you referenced Ahmaud Arbery, and because the people were outraged,
Starting point is 00:43:47 and they turned that outrage to a public outcry, I do believe that's why the wheels of justice started going more expeditiously. And so we got the prosecutor to charge the father-son murderous duo, and they charged the third person, Robbie, who was doing the video. But that's the people using their voice in a collective, unified manner. And I think with Breonna Taylor in Louisville,
Starting point is 00:44:16 he had a similar incident where they have now made the police chief resign over that botched, no-knock warrant where that innocent black woman was killed in her own apartment. And now I believe they're going to be charged because the people are raising their voice.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We have to strike a match versus curse in the dark because we can make things happen. We don't know our strength and our power. Minnesota, as long as we keep protesting and I don't know if strength and our power. Minnesota, as long as we keep protesting, and I don't know if you got to go start looting or destroying stuff,
Starting point is 00:44:52 but just protesting, disturbing the peace every day, every night, that DA, that mayor going to say, we want to restore some kind of calm to our city. All they want us to do is do what we would do in any other case. And so I believe they're going to charge them, but they just are trying, if they can get out of it, not charge them. And that's why we got to stay on them, Envy, because I'm cautiously optimistic based on what I see in the Arbery case,
Starting point is 00:45:20 what I see in Botham Jones' case, what I saw in Corey Jones' case, where these police officers are getting convicted and they're sending them away, but it has to be us, we the people, collectively not letting our foot off their neck. Alright, we got more with Attorney Benjamin
Starting point is 00:45:39 Crump when we come back, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne N move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're still speaking with attorney Benjamin Crump. He represents the family of George Floyd, the individual that was murdered by Minneapolis police. So, attorney, now, for people out there listening that are not in Minneapolis and that want to help, how can we help? You know, what should we do?
Starting point is 00:46:08 What do we need to do to make sure we stand together and continue to apply pressure and to really, really help? But I love what Chance the Rapper did in Chicago and people with a voice can use their voice to start having rallies and protests because that gets to Minnesota. I know Ludacris and his wife went on social media and started using their voice to get other people, people who are not black people, but saying, where are you white good people? Why are you all silent? And the other thing we can do most importantly is keep emailing and calling the district attorney, Mike Freeman, who ultimately
Starting point is 00:46:46 is going to make the decision whether to charge. His phone number is 612-348-5550. And we got to give it to him one more time. Okay. 612-348-55, and demand justice for George Floyd. And we do have, I believe, an ace in the hole. The Minnesota Attorney General is a good brother named Keith Ellison. He was a former U.S. Congressman. A lot of controversy because they said he supported this brother too much was the controversy. But he is a person who has a track record of fighting for our community and uplifting the culture. So if that local DA has a conflict of interest somehow, then Keith Ellis, this African-American attorney general, would get to prosecute this case. And so like in Ahmaud Arbery, we got the sister prosecuting the case.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Then we can have the brother in Minnesota prosecuting the case. And I want to believe, like you're a father and you're a father of children of color, I want to believe parents who have these positions, have children of color, are going to have life experiences that are in common with us.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And so they will know how to represent the life of George Floyd, represent the life of Ahmaud Arbery, better than some of our white brothers and sisters who have a fish out of water experience when it comes to trying to defend the honor and the dignity of Black people when they're killed versus when they're prosecuting us. They can always assassinate our character and say we deserved it. We locked up and stole away the key. So that's why I'm cautiously optimistic. Keep our voices up. Justice for Floyd.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Everybody called him Big Floyd in this family. Right. And then my last question is last question is, I'm looking up the cops and I'm doing my homework on these cops and I'm realizing that a couple of them had cases before. I mean, one guy even sued and won some money and
Starting point is 00:48:56 they've had cases where it's similar. It seems like they were racist cops due to their past history. I don't know how true it is, but looking at their history it seems like they've been in this rodeo before. Absolutely, and it looked like they have a history of alleged allegations of excessive force. They probably didn't have...
Starting point is 00:49:17 To minorities, to black people. Yeah, to minorities. And so we didn't have evidence on video of those cases, apparently. But on this one here, nobody can look at that video and say that the amount of force they used was not excessive. And excessive, that led to lethal force. I mean, they're going to try to say, and this is why we have to have an independent medical examiner come and do our autopsy after they finish with them because they're already trying to say, what we saw in that video didn't kill him.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Nine minutes on that man's neck? Yeah. Nine minutes on that man's neck. When he wasn't fighting back, he was saying, I can't breathe. He was screaming for his mother. He was saying, his stomach hurt. Please let me up. I'm not resisting.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Nine minutes, and they say that wasn't the reason. So what was the reason that they say he died? They haven't revealed that yet. They tried to say he had a medical condition. But, you know, I'm absolutely certain when our medical examiner look at it independently with no bias, he's not an employee of the city of Minneapolis. He's not buddy-buddy with the police. He's going to tell the only cause for the death.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It says just a proximate cause for the death. It contributed to your succession of life. And you know what? I knew that too. You know how I knew that? They didn't say he died at the scene. They said he died later on at the hospital. So it felt like they were setting something up.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It felt like they were setting up to save their ass. Yep. Well, Attorney Benjamin Crump, I appreciate you for checking in. And you know, anytime you're on the front lines, you need us. If we can't be there, we are here as much as possible. You use us as much as you need to. And we are grateful and thankful for you being there for us anytime we need you, man. We are here as much as possible. You use us as much as you need to and we are grateful and thankful for you being there for us anytime we need you, man.
Starting point is 00:51:28 We really appreciate you, brother. Hey, God bless you, Henry. Thanks for using your voice for the people, man. God bless you and God bless your family as well. And tell the Floyd family, you know, we're praying for them and condolences. I certainly will. They're big fans of the Breakfast Club, man. Tell them I said thank you so much, brother. All right. Thank you for checking in,
Starting point is 00:51:44 bro. Okay. All right. Now you for checking in, bro. Okay. All right. Now, when we come back, Steven Jackson will be joining us. Steven Jackson, of course, ex-NBA player. One of George Floyd's closest friends. We're going to talk to him
Starting point is 00:51:54 when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:52:04 We got a special guest on the line right now. Steven Jackson, welcome, sir. My brother, good to see you. Good to see you too, man. I've seen you on so many different occasions, man. And I just want to say thank you for checking in. And I know it's a hard time right now.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And for people that don't know, George Floyd, who was killed a couple of days ago, was a personal friend of yours. So just tell people how you knew George and what type of person he was for the people that don't know. You know, Amy, when you come from the upbringings
Starting point is 00:52:36 and the surroundings we come from, the difference between a lot of you and your friends is the opportunities we get. Floyd was just as talented as I was. He just didn't have the opportunities I got. Floyd was just as talented as I was. He just didn't have the opportunities I got. He was better. He was a double.
Starting point is 00:52:49 He played two sports, football and basketball. And we met. Floyd is like five years older than me. We met in my 10th, 11th grade year in high school. And I was really in the streets, and Floyd was really in the streets, and that's how we met. My friend Tello to us told me, man, Jack, I'm bringing my homeboy over here,
Starting point is 00:53:07 and y'all look just alike. Y'all might have the same daddy. I'm like, hell nah, man. And when we saw each other, man, who was your daddy? Who your daddy? You know, that's the kind of conversation we had, and we hit it off to the point where when he got locked up, I took his mom and ran a couple times.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He's probably the only person being successful. You've got a lot of people that call you for things and knowing they don't need it and just abusing your kindness. He's probably one of the very few people in my life and this is why I hurt him so much that genuinely supported me. When he called me, it was for something that he really needed. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:53:39 for no shoes. It wasn't for no going out. It was for something he really needed to better his life. When you have people like that in your life, you want to hold on to out. It was for something he really needed to better his life. And when you have people like that in your life, you want to hold on to them. And that was one of them people, that's what I'm going to miss most about. Now, what was your favorite memory of George Floyd? You know, and the reason
Starting point is 00:53:55 I ask this is because it's so, media can paint whatever picture, that you really forget that this was a father, that this was a friend, that this was a worker, that he was a good person. And I'm like, I hate the way sometimes media does things. So what was your favorite memory of George? Just how, even when he didn't have to, when he did have to, when he fell off to, he always wanted to be this same person. He wanted to be the protector and provider for everybody, you know, and that was just him.
Starting point is 00:54:25 When you're from our neighborhoods, okay, I'm going to give you a perfect example. Neighborhoods, all kind of neighborhoods, you have four or five neighborhoods and they all get beefing. But you always have one guy that can go to all the neighborhoods and everybody rock with him. Floyd was that guy. He hung with the robbers and jackers and nobody couldn't stand him. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:45 But Floyd was not involved in that life. So everybody embraced him all around the city. And that's why the city of Houston isn't so upraised right now. Because Floyd, he didn't deserve to go out like that. He was in Minnesota changing his life. He went out there to drive trucks to the point where I was just telling you, he could have called me for money saying he needed this. He called me for clothes.
Starting point is 00:55:03 He didn't ask for no money. He asked for clothes he didn't ask for no money he called he asked for clothes you know and and like he was better in his life and it hates to he gets to the point where he turning that curve to be better and this happened you know i just spoke to attorney benjamin crump and he was telling me he was like you know they said that the police were called because it was allegedly a fake $10 bill. And you look at the video and you say, all of that for a $10 bill? What was going through your mind when you
Starting point is 00:55:34 seen that? Because as a father, I'm sitting there and my heart is hurting and I'm like, I can't believe it. It's almost like you want to be there because you want to just push that cop off him and be like, ugh!'t believe it. It's almost like you want to be there because you want to just push that cop off him and be like, oh. It makes me angry, dog. It makes me angry, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It makes me angry, dog. Because I know how I move. And I show everybody love, man. And I just can't. It just hurts that people have that much hate, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I get emotional when I see a homeless man on the street that I can't help. That's the type of feelings I have for people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I get emotional when I see a homeless man on the street that I can't help. That's the type of feelings I have for people. You know what I'm saying? So when
Starting point is 00:56:07 I see somebody just be so cruel, man, and it's to the point not anywhere, we feel like we're helpless. We can't do nothing about it. So you get so mad, bro. And I work so hard. I work so hard, bro, to get that cloud over me where people call me a thug
Starting point is 00:56:23 and all that shit. I worked hard to get that off me. And as angry as I am and the thoughts I have, I want to do something crazy, but I'm not because I can't jeopardize everything. But at the same time, I'm going to use my voice. I'm going to stand up as much as I can. I'm going to show up as much as I can. I don't care what's going on
Starting point is 00:56:39 because there's three things that I want to happen. I want my brother name to stand the way it should be. A lot of times when police do this, they demean your character. They dig up stuff because they really don't know you to overshadow what has happened. I'm not letting that happen. Two, he has two beautiful daughters. Dad is not here to provide for them.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They got to take care of those babies. And I know I didn't make the NBA All-Star teams. I'm not in the top 50, but I'm first team all common sense. And I know we're not going to get the death penalty, but I'm going for it. Because the only way that they can stop killing us is if they see one of their own sitting in that chair and flapping something he did and knowing that could be them. We have to see it. The world has to see it. My brother died.
Starting point is 00:57:19 The world needs to see one of them die. That's the only way we're going to get justice. And I was going to ask you that. What's justice for you? So justice is charged for murder and an electric chair. Yes. And I can't say this because I'd rather the kids get taken care of and they don't get the electric chair and they just get murdered. They get murdered.
Starting point is 00:57:39 They have to take care of them kids. Their father's not here. And to be honest, the oldest, Gigi, the six-year-old, she don't even know yet. I just got off the phone with her mama. She haven't even told her yet. This is the type of stuff that they got to go through. And you know what hurt me even more, brother? When, you know, I spoke to Benjamin and Crump
Starting point is 00:57:56 and I was like, you know, in the video which was hard to watch. My wife, when I say had pains and cramps because all she could imagine was our kids, our son, our daughter, me. And I heard him screaming mama, right? And I was like, you know, how did his mama take it?
Starting point is 00:58:11 And he was like, his mama's not here. His mom died. That's why he was calling him. That's why he was calling him. That's why he was calling his kids. I know my brother. He's not gonna make no cry out like that if he's really not in pain, if he's really not
Starting point is 00:58:28 scared. Right. He's not no scared individual. So for him to cry out like that, my boy was really terrified, man. He was really terrified. And I hate the world seeing it like that. But it's one of those things where I get it and I'm sitting there, so how is his family
Starting point is 00:58:43 taking it? How is his girl, his brothers and his sisters? Have you spoke to them? How are they dealing with it? And what are they feeling right now at this time? Honestly, Envy, our relationship, I didn't even know his sisters. I knew his daughter's mother. I know her.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And a lot of the homies that's around. And I've been talking to them, you know what I mean? I didn't really have no relationship with his sisters. I had a great relationship with his mama, you know, because I came through for her. I came through for her sometimes, but rest in peace. But I know it's tough.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I know it's tough. But at this point, I'm just worried about them babies. I ain't really worried about nobody else but them babies. All right, we got more with Steven Jackson when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with ex-NBA player Steven Jackson. He was one of George Floyd's closest friends. Now, Steven, I was talking to Benjamin Crump earlier. He represents the family, of course. And I was talking to Benjamin Crump earlier. He represents the family, of course. And I was telling him that people feel like the only way to make a change so that the police look at us differently is for civil unrest, not to riot, not to burn down our
Starting point is 00:59:56 communities, but more civil unrest. Because looking at that cop and his eyes as people were telling him that he was killing George Floyd and that his nose was bleeding and he was just lifeless, and it felt like that turned him on. It gave him a hard time. It was like he enjoyed it. Just looking at his face, he enjoyed it. Hand in his pocket.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Hand in his pocket. They said the reason his hand was probably in his pocket was because he could put more pressure on his thigh. More pressure on his pocket. And they said the reason his hand was probably in his pocket because he could put more pressure on his thigh. More pressure on his thigh. And I'm sitting here like, that can't be life for us, man. Like, that can't be life for these young black individuals out there. I can't even say young black because he was our age. Like, that can't be life for us.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Because, and like I told Attorney Benjamin Crump, you know how many fake bills I had? I don't produce bills. I get paid. Somebody gives me a change. I don't check a $10 bill. I don't check a $20 bill. That shouldn't be a citation.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's happened to a lot of people. And then you say he's resisting arrest so we had to put him down? The videos I've seen, I didn't see any resisting. You know, that's why I asked, you know, what type of person he was. And I'm looking at your Instagram and I'm looking at him and people talk about him. And they said he was a gentle giant, a good dude, changing his life. He went there for work.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So it's like from what I'm seeing and what they're telling me, it doesn't match. Envy, envy. We know he wasn't that. You know, I've always been real with you, Envy. Every time, he wasn't that. I know, boy, I know guys like that. He wasn't that. What they going to try to pay them out to be? He wasn't that. You know, I've always been real with you, Envy. He wasn't that. I know guys like that. He wasn't that. What they going to try to pay them out to be?
Starting point is 01:01:28 He wasn't that. He might have a background of going to jail, but who don't? I do. You know what I'm saying? You can't judge somebody out there. You go there to be rehabilitated, he'll rehabilitate himself. But I'm not going to let them do that, bro. And that's exactly what they going to try to do.
Starting point is 01:01:44 But that's not him. That's not him. And the video shows who he is. Absolutely. Well, Steven, you know, whatever you need from us, we are here. You know, people who can't be on those front lines, you know, we're stuck because we want to know what to do. You know, we're in a situation where we're like, well, how can we help? What do we need to do?
Starting point is 01:02:00 How can we be your support system? How can we be the family support system? Because I want to make sure that don't happen to my son, my family, my cousins, you, me, or anybody else like that. Just the look of that cop's face was just like, I don't give a fuck. And then to see, and I don't even know if this is real. When I see the hat and the hat said, make whites great again, I don't know if that hat is real or if that picture. But it just sums up who that person was. And did you hear about the cop's history
Starting point is 01:02:26 or all the stuff that they've been through before? Yes. Yes. And why is this? Why is it when they're up and the things they do, all you got to do is look at it as common sense. But they scrutinize things that we do, and it's not even close. Their stuff is right there in black and white.
Starting point is 01:02:46 All you have to do is see it and look at the wrong that they're doing. But they have to trump up some wrong to make us look bad. This is the world we're living in. This is the world we're living in. The world we're living in is you have a great athlete, one of the best athletes of all time, that's not guilty for a crime. He dies and the first thing you bring up is something he's never been guilty for.
Starting point is 01:03:09 This is the f***ing world we live in. Excuse me, but this is the world we live in. Yeah. And as a father, I got five. What do you tell your daughter? What do you tell your youngin' who goes out there
Starting point is 01:03:26 in the world who thinks life is just free? Because I showed my son the video. My son is 16 because I wanted him to see what goes on out there. It ain't all peaches and cream. You didn't grow up in Queens like I did. And just know that this ain't peaches and cream.
Starting point is 01:03:42 There are police out there that don't give a f*** about you and think you're less than them because you're black. What do you tell your young queen? You know what's funny? It's funny you ask that. When I found out, how I found out my girl's from Minnesota and her mom, we talk about this type of stuff
Starting point is 01:03:58 all the time. Like I tell you, I get emotional when I see a homeless person. So we talk about the stuff police been doing for a while. So she saw me the video and it was early in the morning. I was sleeping on the couch with my daughter and I just a homeless person. So we talk about the stuff police been doing for a while. So she saw me the video and it was early in the morning. I was sleeping on the couch with my daughter and I just look at it. And then I look at my other messages
Starting point is 01:04:10 and people like, man, you see what happened to your twin in Minnesota? And that's when I correlated the message from her and I jumped up and I screamed and I started punching stuff. So my daughter,
Starting point is 01:04:18 my daughter, my six-year-old daughter don't live with me. Her mom was supposed to come pick her up. My daughter was supposed to leave and as she was leaving, she told her mom, she said, Mom, I'm going to stay.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think my daddy needs me. I didn't have to tell her nothing. She knew the pain I was in, and she knew why, because she heard me talking about it. I think she get it. I think my pain and my tears and her first time hearing me scream out like that, I think it did it. I don't think I need to tell her nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:48 And by her knowing that she needed to be here with me, I think that resonated to her. That's all she needed to know, that Daddy was in pain and I needed you here. I didn't have to say nothing to him. You know, and when you say God does things sometimes in mysterious ways, I think God made that happen to make sure you wouldn't do nothing crazy. Yeah, because I was balling, Envy. I was balling.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I was balling. And having her here, having my girl here, my support system here, I needed that, bro, because I was angry. But I know me, and it woke up something. It woke up a side of me that I haven't had in me since a teenager. I was ready to dumb out. I was ready to dumb out. And was ready to dumb out, and I thank God for them because I worked
Starting point is 01:05:28 too hard to get to where I'm at, Envy. But I will use my name and my platform and speak enough for my brother. I'm never going to stop there. Absolutely, man, and I will too. And you know, the Breakfast Club always supports you. You know, whatever you need from us through this whole ordeal, we are here. Whenever you want to call,
Starting point is 01:05:43 whenever you want to talk, anytime something happens, brother, pick up the phone and call us, man. Use us for what we are here for, man, and we appreciate you for checking in, brother. I appreciate you. I was showing love, bro. Thank you, brother. Stephen Jackson, man. It's the Breakfast Club, man. Appreciate you again, bro. Love, bro. When we come back, let's
Starting point is 01:05:59 open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. What's on your mind? Let's talk. We just heard from attorney Benjamin Crump. We just heard from Steven Jackson, one of George Floyd's closest friends. We'd love to hear from you, 800-585-1051. And also shout to 1025 in Minneapolis. We're on in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 01:06:21 We'd love to hear from you guys, too. You guys are right there. You're on the front lines. Want to hear from everybody today, all right? It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to Angela Yee and
Starting point is 01:06:38 Charlamagne. They are on vacation. But I just wanted to take some phone calls. Open up the lines. I'm home. I'm here. Hello, who's this? It's Ryan Michael Jr. What's up, brother up the lines. I'm home. I'm here. Hello, who's this? It's Ryan Maker Jr. What's up, brother? Good morning. Where you calling from? San Antonio. Talk to me. How you feeling out there, bro?
Starting point is 01:06:52 I'm feeling all right, you know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, this here, it does bother me, you know, because George Floyd, he didn't do nothing that deserved that. And I appreciate you opening up the lines for this because we need to talk about this and we need to just like the Ku Klux Klan, get the officers on their side to
Starting point is 01:07:14 walk through and they close off roads and all. We need to do the same when we protest. Yeah, I mean, it's of course he didn't deserve that, man. I'm just watching it man That officer's face On his
Starting point is 01:07:28 When he was putting his knee in his neck I'll never forget that face And just the look like Yeah I'm doing this and what And I really I hope they fry him I hope he gets the death penalty man I hope they fry him
Starting point is 01:07:40 Yeah You see the way he was moving his legs He was moving his legs Like he was digging his knees Yeah Yeah You know the brother died was moving his legs He was moving his legs like he was digging his knees Yeah, yeah You know, the brother died, George Floyd Right there in front of everybody I mean, I know they can't and I know they won't
Starting point is 01:07:52 But I think he should get the death penalty just like that But thank you for calling, brother Hello, who's this? What's going on? It's Shelly from H-Style, you know what I'm saying Hey Shelly, good morning What's going on? Good morning I was calling because I wanted to know where can we up to to organize these things? Because the common community, you know, I'm not saying that we don't have the education to or the knowledge to,
Starting point is 01:08:32 but some of us want to do things and don't know how to go about those things. Yeah, you can go to UntellFreedom.com. Okay. And Tamika Mallory and my son and the whole family, they do a lot of of the groundwork. They're out there there. You know, they travel from city to city helping and fighting. And, you know, they do everything, whether it's organized, whether it's make sure they have lawyers, they get entertainers, artists, they are into, you know, policies. They do what we can. And, again, that's untilfreedom.com. Okay, cool. Thank you so much for that. You have a good one.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Hello, who's this? This is Mike, BJ Envy. Mike, good morning. Where you calling from, brother? I'm calling from Dyersburg, Tennessee. Good morning, man. What's on your mind this morning, bro? I just wanted to call in about the situation that happened with the officer.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I'm disappointed. First of all, I want to let you know that I'm white, and I want to apologize to the whole entire black community and population of the United States. This is completely injustice, and I'm disappointed. I want everybody to know that all white people are not this way. And I'm disappointed. And I just don't. I want everybody to know that all white people are not this way. Yeah, I don't think people think that all white people are this way.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I just think that at a time like this, we need to all stand together and make sure that the people at all races and the police officers that are racist, we stand against them. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I fully agree. And I believe this guy should be charged with murder because it was plainly that the guy was a dude and was fully in control. And I actually think the other guy, other officer should be charged with assisted murder because he just stood by and watched it. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I mean, the fact that you see this officer have his knee on George Floyd's neck and you see him not moving. He's not moving. He's not fighting. He's screaming. He can't breathe. He has blood coming out of his nose, and none of those other officers did anything. In my opinion, they were accessories.
Starting point is 01:10:41 800-585-1051. We're just opening up the phone lines. Just hearing from you guys this morning. Let's just get into a positive mix, man. I just want to play a couple songs, man. Why not, right? It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. After hearing from Attorney Benjamin Crump and Steven Jackson, we're just opening up the phone lines, man, and with everything that's going on, we'd just like to hear from you.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Rock out of Atlanta. What's up, Indy? How you doing, brother? Rock, what's going on, brother? How you feeling, bro? Man, man, it's one of those moments, man, you wake up and you just don't feel right in the world
Starting point is 01:11:21 because of all the injustice that's going on to our people, man, towards our people, man. And it is just one of those things. But what I wanted to say, if he was, man, we need more black leaders, like the leaders that we had back in the day, the modern-day Malcolm X, the modern-day Martin Luther King, Julius. We need leaders like that in today's society, the personalities that help fight for us, man,
Starting point is 01:11:42 because I think the problem with going on in the world today, there's no leaders out here to stand up to the cruelty that's being done to our people. We have all these voices, more voices now than we ever have in the history of our existence, yet and still, nobody is really standing up and going out there and creating these groups, these movements of people that's going to stand up for the rights of black and brown people in our country. These folks get away with what they get away with because they know there's no leadership.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We need leadership to help stop what's going on. I believe that because if this was in the era of Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X, do you realize the uproar and the enlightenment of the black people? They want to stand for the stuff
Starting point is 01:12:28 that's going on right now. And I think that they have made us so relaxed in society that we don't even see that we need leadership. We need a leader to step up, put some energy to stand up for our people because this is not right.
Starting point is 01:12:41 They kill us every single day. And with the ladies, the health care workers, they kill her every single day. The health care worker saved my life. They killed her for no reason. Now I'm back, man. Your point wasn't nothing. A bill, a fake bill, you take a man's life off a fake bill?
Starting point is 01:12:56 That's not right, man. Yeah, you're right. I mean, there are a lot of leaders out there. Of course, you can say the minister. There's so many people on the front lines. Uh, I mean, we can talk about Tamika Mallory. We could talk about my son. We could talk about, uh, Stacey Abrams, Bernice King. There's a lot of black leaders, but you're talking about on the front lines and yeah, I agree with you. I think there should be a lot more young black leaders. You got the black lives matter movement. There are a lot of people
Starting point is 01:13:23 out there on the front lines, but I think we need more. I mean, there's so many things going on. You got Attorney Benjamin Crump that's out there fighting his ass off. And we appreciate everybody out there on the front lines that's continuing to fight. Hello, who's this? This is Terrence. What up, man? I'm from Detroit down here in Virginia. What up, man?
Starting point is 01:13:39 What up, though? What's going on, brother? I was saying, I want us to focus on convictions. We can focus on getting some of these people convicted for killing our brothers and sisters. A lot of times they get 10, 15 years when they're officers for doing the killing, if they get convicted. Once they go
Starting point is 01:13:56 to jail, that jailhouse justice is a beautiful thing, and I'm telling you, when you go to a compound that's 60, 70 percent rec yard, black people looking at you with hatred for what you did to one of their brothers or sisters, let them survive that. I hope they don't think it's sweet once they go there. And once they go there,
Starting point is 01:14:11 that'll change some of their lives. See, I really believe in like, see, I believe in the death penalty in situations like this. You know what I mean? When you kill somebody like that, that wasn't fighting back, that was telling you he can't breathe, that, you know, everybody around you was telling you that he couldn't breathe and that nose was coming, I mean, blood was coming out of his nose. And you continue to keep your knee on his neck, not for 10 seconds, not for 30 seconds, for minutes at a time.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Now, he doesn't deserve to get the death penalty. He doesn't deserve for the world to see him lose his life like we've seen that father lose his life. Like, we shouldn't see that. Your kids see this stuff. You know, we don't do this to them. So that jailhouse justice, even if they don't give him the death penalty, that jailhouse justice is the same thing, man. That broomstick treatment and all that nonsense they go through when those guys go to prison, they get tortured for years. You know what, brother? He'll be in a protective
Starting point is 01:15:10 unit somewhere where he probably won't see anybody. There's so many different ways, but I mean, I feel like he took that man's life and there was no accident. It was no ups and no was it? No, it was a mistake. He took that man's life. I have to say allegedly right? Allegedly until it comes out.
Starting point is 01:15:26 That's what my dad told me to say. But to be honest, like, he should be charged with murder. That's my opinion. All right. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix. We'll take your requests. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, shout to Attorney Benjamin Crump for checking in and also Stephen Jackson checking in. Now, Attorney Benjamin Crump represents the family of George Floyd. And Stephen Jackson was George Floyd's one of his closest friends. So we got a chance to chop it up with both of them this morning just to find out who he was as a person and what happened,
Starting point is 01:16:11 what happened and what we want, what justice we want and what we need. And the facts that's been coming out now. And if you missed it, you can hit up The Breakfast Club's YouTube page and see the conversation, all right? When we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix, so you can get your request in right now, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 01:16:34 We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, shout out to Angela Yee and Charlamagne. They are on vacation right now. I just wanted to open up the phone lines and talk to you guys and really just let you guys vent, man. Talked to Attorney Benjamin Crump this morning. Also spoke with Steven Jackson. And I just want to close the show out with justice for George. That's it. That's where I'm at today. Just justice for George. Shout out to Tamika Mallory. She posted this. Talk is cheap.
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