The Breakfast Club - Reverend William J. Barber II Interview and More

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

Today on the show we had an update from Attorney Benjamin Crump about the George Floyd case, in which the other 3 officers were arrested and charged and he let us know exactly what these charges mean now. Also, Reverend William J. Barber II called and spoke about poor peoples campaign and public mourning and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to New Orleans quarter back Drew Brees for his comments on Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem and Angela helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee" with one caller dealing with a "Karen"! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on.

So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like, why I got to be in the morning? You gonna wake up in the morning. I'm talking right now. You're about to experience a morning show unlike it feels. Shout out to the Breakfast Club. I hope to see y'all in there tomorrow. What you guys are doing right now, it's the hub culture.

The Breakfast Club is my morning sit. I need it, and I love it so much. I feel like you're really not popping until you do the Breakfast Club. I've been waiting to come to y'all's show, man. I know you got to be a big-time celebrity to be up in here. You gotta be big-time. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club, bitches.

Break the f*** out. Good morning, USA and Toronto! DJMV. Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. Yes, it's Thursday. I hear you're scratching. What you mean? I hear you're scratching. I ain't stretching. What are you talking about?

Oh, I thought I heard you scratching. What kinky thoughts are you having this one? It's too early. Maybe I'm just projecting on you. I don't, don't project anything on me. I'm definitely tired. Zoom is very exhausting, bro. It is. If you got to be on Zoom for the majority of your day,

it is very, very, very exhausting. And for whatever reason, you know, your people think that being that it's on Zoom, you can do more. Right. So it'll be a lot of stuff on your schedule. Zoom is exhausting. I'm tired of Zoom.

I need some human interaction when it comes to these meetings and interviews and whatever else. Yeah. I've been doing a lot of Zoom calls. What I've been doing now recently, I ain't even going to front. I've been doing it on my phone and just being like my video doesn't work. So I could just do it as like just a conference call. I've been doing that a couple of times. Hilarious. doesn't work so I can just do it as like just a conference call. I've been doing that a couple times. Hilarious.

A couple times. Why don't you want to be seen? Sometimes I got other things to do and when you do a Zoom call you just got to really be sitting down into the Zoom call but I like to multitask so there's a million and one things. I got five kids. There's a lot of things going on so sometimes I just put it on the phone and keep it moving like that. That is

true. You do a lot of these Zoom meetings. People be doing a lot of other stuff. They be cooking, cleaning, and, like, people be trying to do two and three things at once when they on the Zoom. So I don't even know if they do these meetings. Well, yesterday I went out and I was walking around in Brooklyn. I was like, let me get out of the house again and go for a little walk. There were a lot of very peaceful protests here in Brooklyn yesterday. And today they are actually going to be...

Sorry, my mic fell. And today they're actually going to be having a memorial service for George Floyd in Brooklyn at Catman Plaza at 1 o'clock. Well, the three other officers were charged yesterday. Absolutely. Now the charges were what? Aiding and abetting

to murder? Is that Now the charges were what? Aiding and abetting to murder? Is that what the charges were? Second degree, yeah. Aiding and abetting to second degree murder because they also up Chauvin's charges to second degree instead of third degree. Right. I don't know what that means. Me neither. That's why we got Attorney Ben Crump calling in this morning. That's right. I don't know exactly

what any of that means. That's right. Attorney Benjamin Crump will be checking in. Yeah, because I would think that the other three officers who were, I think it was two other officers, were kneeling, were kneeling on him as well,

like on his lower extremities, like his back and stuff like that. So I would think that, you know, being that they physically were on him, you know, they would be charged with something a little stronger than aiding and abetting.

But hey, what do I know? That's right. Maybe those charges are the charges that'll stick. Who knows? Yeah, and then yesterday, I think they had the mug shots of all four officers, well, the other three were released yesterday. And people were asking, was one of the officers black or African-American?

Was he a minority? Do we know? They did not give the ethnicities. I didn't see that anywhere. One is Asian. One of them is definitely Asian, right? No, we know one of them is Asian. Well, you can look at that and see that. But they're saying for one of them, they can't tell. They can't see that anywhere. One of them is definitely Asian, right? No, we know one of them is Asian.

Well, you can look at that and see that. But they're saying for one of them, they can't tell. They can't tell, yeah. There were some people saying he was Asian. Some people saying he was black. Some people saying he was Latino. They were trying to get to, you know, find that out. But anyway, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump.

He'll be checking in. He'll be breaking down the charges because I have no idea what those charges mean and how much time those officers could really get. And we also have Reverend Dr. William Barber. He'll be checking in as well. That's right. Absolutely. You will learn something on today's show.

You definitely will. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Well, I guess we were going to be talking about George Floyd, but maybe we should save that for Ben Crump because we just kind of gave all of that. So let's talk about these other officers, six Atlanta officers, who were charged in the arrest of the college students that they dragged from the car and hit with stun guns. All right.

We'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.

Where are we starting, Yee? Well, yesterday, Barack Obama had a virtual town hall. It was sponsored by My Brother's Keeper Alliance. And he partners with that with his Obama Foundation. We've all done a lot of different things with My Brother's Keeper. And here is what Barack Obama had to say about young people and how much they inspire him. Part of what's made me so hopeful is the fact that so many young people have been galvanized and activated. Because historically, so much of the progress that we've made in our society has been because of young people.

Dr. King was a young man when he got involved. Cesar Chavez was a young man. Malcolm X was a young man. And so when sometimes I feel despair, I just see what's happening with young people all across the country. And it makes me feel optimistic. It makes me feel as if this country is going to get better. That's right. When Barack Obama was.

What did you say? No, I'm going to say that's right, because if the kids didn't care, then that would be a problem. Imagine all of this happened and the kids didn't have a reaction to it. Imagine if nobody had a reaction to it. Imagine if everybody just went on about their day after something like this. Then you would go, damn, does America have a pulse? At least you know it's alive. When Barack Obama was in office, though, he did roll out a number of policies

to help curb those incidents of police brutality, like he created a task force with guidelines on 21st century policing. He also limited the transfer of military equipment to police departments. But Donald Trump's administration did roll back some of those reforms. Now, in addition to that, Barack Obama talked about a change in mindset and how we have to keep the momentum going? There is a change in mindset that's taking place, a greater recognition that we can do better. That's a direct result of the activities and organizing and mobilization and engagement of so many young people.

And so I just have to say thank you to them. Just make sure that we now follow through because at some point, attention moves away. In addition to that, he also gave three ways that you can make change. Number one, we know there are specific evidence-based reforms that if we put in place today would build trust, save lives. Those are included in the 21st Century Policing Task Force report. You can find it on obama.org. Number two, a lot of mayors and local elected officials read and supported the task force report, but then there wasn't enough follow-through. So today I am urging every mayor

to review your use of force policies with members of your community and commit to report on planned reforms. Number three, every city in this country should be a My Brother's Keeper community because we have 250 cities, counties, tribal nations who are working to reduce the barriers and expand opportunity for boys and young men of color through programs and policy reforms and public-private partnerships. So go to our website, get working.

And number four is changes. We have to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy. And the people who benefit from white supremacy have to be able to relinquish some of that power and privilege. Until that happens, it's going to continue to be oppression. You just can't get right, man. Usually your mic is too loud. Today is too low, bro.

I can barely hear you. It's not me. I can hear him. They got to figure this out. There you go. I don't know what else to do. I ain't do nothing. Oh, it sounds like you turned it up. It got louder.

Or maybe they turned it up in the studio. All right. And the six Atlanta police officers have been booked after charges were filed against them. That was in Atlanta. They were filmed, as you know, breaking the windows of a vehicle. And they yanked Spelman College and Morehouse College students out of the car. 22-year-old Messiah Young was dragged from the vehicle and his girlfriend, 20-year-old Taniya Pilgrim, was also dragged from her vehicle. Now, they did try to press charges against Young. He was charged with attempting to

elude the officers and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lanceansbottom said she's ordering that his charges are dropped. And body camera video shows that they also took another young man into custody on a downtown street alongside a line of stop cars as well. He was pleading with police to let him go, saying that he didn't do anything. So they are happy that these officers are being held accountable for their actions. Two of the officers whose firings were announced Sunday, investigators Ivy Streeter and Mark So they are happy that these officers are being held accountable for their actions. Two of the officers whose firings were announced Sunday, investigators Ivy Streeter and Mark Gardner, were charged. And there were four other officers charged as well. They're being charged with aggravated assault for using a taser against Young and charged with pointing a gun at Young, according to arrest warrants.

And Gardner's charged with aggravated assault for using a taser against Pilgrim. Man, drop on the clues bombs for Keisha Lance Bottoms. Do you see that, Mayor de Blasio? Okay, that's how a man is supposed to treat corrupt police officers. Okay, I love elected officials who care about the people more than they care about the system. The system is supposed to work with us. And when it doesn't, and when there's an abuse of power from the system, they got to be held accountable. Simple as that.

Got him up out of there. But you can't do do that you can't do that when you're in the police you're in your pocket like mayor de blasio was and the fulton county district attorney paul howard announced those charges during a news conference uh that happened atlanta police did not immediately have a comment all right well that is your front page news get it off your chest 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Phone lines are wide open again. The number again is 800-585-1051.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?

Hey, this is Ross Lazarus from Surviving Georgia. What's up, bro? How you feeling today, man? I'm feeling fine. One love to you all. One love to you all in these tribes. Peace, King. Get it off your chest, bro. Man, I'm upset about that. Black authors of sci-fi have no outlets, really. Like, we're kind of rejected and thrown and loose from the film industry to the book literaries, to the publishing companies.

You know, like, we really need some better outlets for black sci-fi authors. Nah, I agree. Salute to my dude Sylvester. He got this line called Planet Dead, but I agree with you. It's only because they don't take us serious in that space right now. They look at black people and they think we're only supposed to be writing about one thing, which is usually discreet life. Right, and that's like they want us just to write an identity of corruption

and nothing that develops us or gives us some science about life. So in my book, The Black Rose of Kush, we got everything in there from post-traumatic slave syndrome, like what Dr. Joy Deguri puts in her book. Y'all definitely need to put her on your show. Have y'all had Dr. Joy Deguri on there yet?

I never heard of her. Post-traumatic slave syndrome. She is the, I call her the female Malcolm X of this time. You got to really check her out. She is the truth for post-traumatic slave syndrome.

I've heard that. Yeah, I mean, I've heard that term. I've definitely used that term. I don't, man, maybe I do know her. I don't know. I've definitely used that term, though. Well, thank you for checking in, bro. You probably would like to go see the slave play on Broadway then.

Well, whenever it's back open again, it's kind of all about that, too. But a shout out to Toshi Onyebuse. We had him on the show. He's a black sci-fi author. He wrote the book War Girls. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on? It's Kevin. Kevin, what's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Peace, King.

What's going on? Yeah. You tell us. I'm calling from Ohio right now. Pardon me? Tell us what's going on, bro. Stage is yours. I'm calling from Ohio right now. I'm actually, Ohio just actually went into lockdown as of 11.59 last night. And actually, I got to go up and I'm still at work.

I work for Google. And it's like 17,000 people here right now. I don't know why they didn't, you know, the message didn't get over here. But I just want to get it off my chest that I'm ready for this thing to be over, man. I mean, my birthday is coming up on March 30th. I still got to work. I still got to do everything I got to do here. Like, you know what I mean?

And it's just like, I think it's just, it's a point. It's chaotic. It's just chaotic now, you know. They gave me forms to give the police. They're like, look, if you get pulled over, get a police fist. Like, what? It's kind of crazy. Yeah, we got those, too.

I'm going to tell you something, though. If you believe in social distancing, the club to wanting coronavirus to be over is pretty packed. So I don't think you need to be in here. Yeah, and just be blessed that you do have some kind of job because there's a lot of people out there that have no work, have no income, and that they're allowing you to work with social distancing. Hello, who's this? Good morning, Angela. Yo, March 24th is to me. Listen, March 24th is to me as January 3rd is to you, boo-boo.

Oh, well, happy birthday, snack man. Thank you, thank you. How are you celebrating with coronavirus? Yeah, oh, thank you. Well, here's a joke. You ready? Thank you. He, here's a joke. You ready? Thank you. He's not even listening.

What do you call a Mexican hangover? Uh-oh. A coronavirus. What? Boo. Boo. Get off the stage. Boo.

Boo. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent it is up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart?

Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.

Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my own country. My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.

That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout. Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know,

follow and admire, join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.

Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.

Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa It was called a moment Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Trav. What's good, Envy? Oh, Trav, what's up, brother? Hey, Trav.

Hey, what's up, boo? How are you? What's up, boo? How are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. What's going on, Charlamagne? Peace, sis. up, boo? How are you? What's up, boo? How are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. What's going on, Charlamagne? Peace, sis. What's happening? Chilling like a villain.

Chilling like a villain. Hey, man. First, I want to say, Trina, Trina, Trina, Auntie Trina, you are, I might got to take my pictures off my Instagram with her, man. Because she is clearly embarrassed. She's clearly being embarrassed right now. The way that she's acting, calling people animals and stuff. She's supposed to be making a statement this morning.

So we'll see what she has to say. Girl, keep your statement. I don't think we want her statement. Hey, Trav, we got to stop doing one thing, though. We got to stop saying R.I.P. just when somebody makes a mistake. That's a bit harsh, don't you State, baby. Hey, Trav, we got to stop doing one thing, though. We got to stop saying RIP just when somebody makes a mistake. That's a bit harsh, don't you think? RIP. I just said that I might got to take my pictures down with her.

I don't know yet. Yeah, but don't say RIP. Yeah, you can't just cancel somebody if she made a mistake. And not saying, not defending her. But let's be honest. We all say things out of anger, out of hate, out of being confused. So we'll see what she has to say.

Hopefully she apologizes, she understands what she said that was wrong. Listen, I'm fine if you want to cancel, just don't put death on the person. R.I.P. is harsh. You know what? And I think she was a little emotional. You know, her brother got shot and killed

and she was discussing that and a lot of different things and she may have misspoke, so we'll see what she has to say this morning. Okay, that's cool. But listen, I was also going to tell you about my job real quick, right? So my job took the right stance as far as like blacking out like their website and putting out a bunch of messages

to our company and stuff. And mind that, we're in Montgomery County. Montgomery County also, their mayor also claimed that Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization. And you should see the way that people at my job are acting about the way that my company is standing behind Black Lives Matter bad. So I might need to be finding another company.

It's crazy that people take Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization. An organization that's actually sticking up for people because they're tired of seeing black people get killed at the hands of the police. It's a terrorist organization. We're in a strange place. Thank you, Trav. 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest.

We got rumors on the way. Yes, we're going to be talking about Drew Brees. People are very upset at him. LeBron James is leading the athlete pushback on some of his comments on protests. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.

So Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has started his own Start Small Fund, and he's putting up $3 million of his own money into that fund, and it's all aimed at Kaepernick's Know Your Rights camp. So he's dedicating that money to pay legal costs for protesters who got arrested while fighting for justice for George Floyd. So you can see on Twitter, $3 million to Colin Kaepernick's Know Your Rights Camp to advance the liberation and well-being

of black and brown communities through education, self-empowerment, mass mobilization to elevate the next generation of change leaders. And that's what he said that money is going towards. So as you know, Colin Kaepernick's Know Your Rights Camp started a legal defense initiative to cover legal bills for the freedom fighters. Oh, salute to Jack.

That's right. That's how you use your privilege and paper to combat prejudice. Salute to Jack. Yes. And now let's talk about Drew Brees from the New Orleans Saints, the quarterback. He had some things to say

when he talked about seeing players kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes. And here's what he had to say when he was about seeing players kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes. And here's what he had to say when he was questioned about that. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America. Let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played and when I look at the flag of the United States. I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War II. And is everything right with our country right now?

No. We still have a long way to go. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together. We can all do better. And that we are all part of the solution. Drew Brees, shut the F up forever. I watched that video a few times yesterday.

I didn't understand the context. Like, was it was they asking him about kneeling in peaceful protests? Was they asking him about the protests now? Like, why did he volunteer that information at a time like this? I'm not sure. And they showed pictures of him kneeling before. So I was lost and confused. Exactly.

Well, for any white people who don't understand, just know this. You wonder why so many black folks have a problem with patriotism? It's because how can we salute a country that enslaved us and continues to brutalize us? Drew Brees sees America, you know, for the beautiful country it is because he's a white privileged male. That's how he sees America, because this white supremacist system works well for him because it was designed to. So he don't see the same America we see. Well, LeBron responded. He said, wow, man, is it still surprising at this point? Sure isn't. well for him because it was designed to. So he don't see the same America we see. Well, LeBron responded.

He said, wow, man, is it still surprising at this point? Sure isn't. You literally still don't understand why Cap was kneeling on one knee. Has absolute nothing to do with the disrespect of the flag and our soldiers, men and women who keep our land free. My father-in-law was one of those men who fought as well for this country. I asked him questions about it and thank him all the time for his commitment. He never found Cap's peaceful protest offensive because he and I both know what's right is right

and what's wrong is wrong. God bless you. A lot of players also, a lot of NFL players went online to vocalize how they felt about Drew Brees' comments. Richard Sherman said he's beyond lost. Guarantee you there were black men fighting alongside your grandfather,

but this doesn't seem to be about that. That uncomfortable conversation you are trying to avoid by injecting military into a conversation about brutality and equality is part of the problem. Julius Pepper said, if you're still talking about players disrespecting the flag by kneeling during the national anthem, clearly you're not ready for these conversations. Call a timeout and come back later.

Now his, some of his most well-known teammates from the Saints, including top wide receiver Michael Thomas, also publicly had things to say. Michael Thomas had elevated innovation over ignorance, and Steven Jackson actually responded to Michael Thomas' comments and said this. Way to hold Drew Brees accountable, Mike. I don't give a damn if he throw you all them touchdowns.

Bad timing, Drew Brees. Bad timing, bro. All right? You play for New Orleans and you live in New Orleans. All them black people in New Orleans that support you, Drew Brees, you got to be a little bit more sensitive to the timing, bro. You can't just be saying s*** out your ass. And you should understand. But y'all got to hold all y'all white teammates accountable, bro. F*** Drew Brees.

If you ain't down with us, then, hey, you on the other side. Yeah, it's going to be rough in that Saints locker room this year. But I also want to tell any white person out there who doesn't get it, if you don't understand why Cap was kneeling, then go watch the video of that white devil cop kneeling on George Floyd's neck for almost nine minutes, and then you'll probably get it. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report.

All right. Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, when we come back, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump joining us. Also, Tez, we're going to be talking about these charges filed against these officers, what they mean, what's next. And we're going to talk to him when we come back during Front Page News. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's D.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest on the line, Attorney Benjamin Crump. Welcome back, brother. Hey, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest on the line, Attorney Benjamin Crump. Welcome back, brother. Hey, good to see you again. And Teslin Figueroa is with Attorney

Benjamin Crump. Yes. How sweet. Now, we're going to ask, of course, yesterday the three officers were charged. So can you break down the charges and tell us exactly what those charges mean and how much time can those officers really get? Absolutely. And thank you all for the Breakfast Club family. Everybody stand vigilant until we got the charges. The Attorney General

for the state of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, a good brother with a track record for championing civil rights. He announced yesterday that all the officers were being arrested for aiding and abetting a murder. And he upgraded the charges on Officer Chauvin to second degree murder,

which if he is convicted, and I say if because we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, Charlemagne, he can get up to 40 years in prison. And Angie, the others who are charged with aiding and abetting, if they're convicted, they a sister named Dr. Alicia Wilson, who is the head of pathology and forensic sciences at the University of Michigan, did an independent autopsy and came to these conclusions. Number one, the man in cause of death was mechanical asphyxiation based on the knee to the neck by shelving for almost nine minutes uh eight minutes and 46 seconds

angie to be exact and then the two knees in the back on the video charlamagne when we look at the other officer who kept his knees there the entire time and so it was pressing down on his lungs uh not allowing them to contract and intake or dispense air, which caused no blood flow to go to his brain. And he was starving from a lack of air. Literally, that's where he died from. The legal definition of the autopsy was homicide. Obviously, that's most important for the criminal charges.

And so those were the conclusions. And they were contradictory to the conclusions of the county DAs who medical examiners are autopsy. And so that's what he used to base his charges, Angie. How can there be two such different autopsy results? That's what I wanted to ask you because I know the family, you guys did go ahead and order an independent one. So how can something like that happen?

Angie, it happens more often than you would think. The medical examiner who works with the police departments every day, they come up with these amazing, imaginary ways to tell us what we saw really didn't happen or was not the cause of death. And so the county medical examiner did agree that it was homicide after we came out with it. But then he said it could be genitive heart failure, that he had some underlying health conditions that were undiagnosed. And so he said that is a condition that could have killed him

because they saw no trauma to the trachea or not enough trauma to the crachia, even though our doctors disagree with that. And they said, and then Charlemagne and Yeezy, the old thing they always say, oh, he had drugs in his system. I heard they said he had coronavirus. That's what I heard, something new I heard this morning. Yeah, they're saying that too. But that didn't kill him, even if it was there. No fentanyl didn't kill them.

No methamphetamine killed them. All of those, I believe, are just distractions to try to throw us off track. Kind of like Eric Garner. Y'all in New York, y'all know how they came out and tried to literally say that Eric Garner didn't die from what those officers did. So that's why we got to stay vigilant. I know we're talking about making sure we get a conviction on all the officers on this case. And then Tasman is helping me talk about the political ramifications

of how we use this moment to turn it into systematic reforming legislation. Let's hear it, Tas. Let's hear that. That's what I want to hear. How do we keep preventing things like this from happening? Absolutely. Well, it's really important that we continue the collective pressure. You know, we talk about collective pressure all the time. And one thing is to make sure that the message is consistent

from a public standpoint. It's really important. We keep hearing folks talk about the property damage. Let us all remember that when black people came to this country, the first thing that they did was make us property. So there is always over property being more important than black lives and black bodies. So it's really important, particularly to my Breakfast Club family, that we continue to keep the narrative consistent, that one, we need systematic change. I know Reverend Al Sharpton will be announcing some things today at the at

the eulogy to talk about how we can come together to talk about federal laws that need to be in place. And those are the type of things that we need to keep the pressure on. We cannot allow this to be used as the political pawn to have Senator Amy Klobuchar or Biden or Trump or whoever to use this to push one agenda over the other. We must keep the main thing, the main thing, and consistently talk about how do we get laws in place to make sure that police officers go to jail when they kill us. It's not about trying to change the heart of anybody, but it is about with diversity training and so forth. That's important. But the main thing is if you get caught killing us, if you get caught doing us wrong, you will go to jail and there will be an immediate conviction. I will probably say this is the

fastest that we've ever had a result. And in this because people have been in the street protesting, using their voices online, and having folks like you at the Breakfast Club, they continue to keep that message consistent. Hey, Ben, let me ask you a question. How come the other officers who kneeled on him, why weren't they given a charge other than aiding and abetting? You know, Attorney General Keith Ellison said to the family and me that they're continuing to investigate.

And if they find evidence that will sustain a first degree murder charge against Chauvin, they will upgrade that charge. And I believe they're going to find that information out there because I think he knew George Floyd. I think they had a history. And so we got to keep on that, Charlemagne. And number two, he said, if those other officers, we can show based on their audio from their body cameras that they had mental thoughts that were ill will against George, he will increase the charges. He said he just doesn't have that evidence yet. Maude Arbor, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd. What we got to do and what Tess as a political consultant to all of us, Charlemagne, is helping us with is systematic response in all of these cases. So black people can expect the criminal justice system to work the same in Minnesota as it does in Georgia or as it does in Kentucky or in Staten Island, New York. We need federal systematic reform to make sure this moment for George Floyd

is not just a moment, but it's a movement to prevent other brothers and sisters from being killed. Can I ask you a technical question? I've heard people saying that it's a lot harder to convict an officer of first degree murder. So they're saying that's why that's not a charge that they would prefer.

I just want to ask you as an attorney, because I don't know, obviously, the ins and outs of that. So are we trying to do that? Is there truth to that? Now, Queen, there's a lot of truth to that. It's very rarely that an officer is ever convicted of first-degree murder. That's what made Botham Jones such a phenomenon. You remember the first time in the history a white policewoman was convicted of first degree murder. That's what made Botham Jones such a phenomenon. You remember the first time in the history

a white policewoman was convicted of first degree murder for killing a black person. Because people want to believe police no matter how much they show us that they have this legacy of being the slave patrol. A lot of our white brothers and sisters want to say, no, no.

They're just doing their job. They're good people. And they didn't premeditate this. They didn't attend this. This is just something that happened. But they tortured George Floyd. I mean, the governor of Minnesota was right to say we want to investigate them for human right abuses in Vanshala May because, I mean, they tortured him nine minutes. He said said i can't breathe he's asking for his mama i mean think about the psychology of that for a second the person who protects us most when we come in this world it's innate for us to always think about our mothers are protected and then at the end of his life in a desperate plea he say say, mama, mama. And then he does a documentary of his death.

And he says, I'm gone now. So that's why this is going to be a hard funeral and memorial for the family. So they're going to need serious mental health counseling. Charlamagne, all his family, especially his children and his brothers and sisters. Yeah, me and Tez was talking about that last night. We trying to put something together, you know,

for the families to get that grief counseling that they need. Tez, I want to ask you a question real quick. I saw that they allowed Amy Klobuchar to announce that the officers were being arrested. That felt political to me. Why did she announce instead of Keith Ellison? Absolutely. Well, we all, let's just keep a real straight shot with no chaser.

You know, being as nice, I'm going to get a little bit rough. And she did it because, again, she has to make some type of amends to the black community. Too bad she wasn't doing that type of announcement years ago when she had an opportunity to discipline this officer, to fire this officer, to prosecute this officer. So what we're not getting ready to do in 2020 is play this game, is this political pawn, and she's continuing to push her uh vp uh application up and to be it's going to be reviewed and it's going to be reviewed by the people and we'll determine on whether or not we think she's a suitable candidate uh for vice president so i

think a lot of us are on it that the jig is up uh we are able to figure out amy uh that you had an opportunity to speak up so don't start with tweets now this is me saying and not attorney benjamin crump he's more martin i'm more malcolm uh so let's be clear uh senator klobuchar we see it we see you we keep the game up and let's she also be a vocal voice and actually getting some federation passed that's what where her opportunity is to step in and not to try to use this as a political i just see this image chalamet and angie this guy had 18 previous allegations of excessive force most most of them against minorities. So it was foreseeable, the problem.

Amy Klobuchar was the district attorney before she became senator. So they could have prosecuted this guy, and George Floyd would still be alive. Right. Well, we know you got to go, and we appreciate you, Tez and Attorney Benjamin Cr Crump for checking in. I know you guys are on scene right now. Thank you for checking in and breaking down the charges and keeping us informed. And we know we got a line to you anytime we need you. Thank you so much guys. All right. Pray for the family at this memorial.

Absolutely. Send them all love. Thank you. Absolutely. When we come back, we have Reverend Dr. William Baldwin checking in. So don't move. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. The breakfast club. Is morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. E.J., Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest on the line right now. We have Reverend Dr. William Barber. Good morning, brother. Good morning. Good morning. Now, I was saying a second ago that you and Charlemagne were talking behind the scenes while we were setting everything up, and we said, save it for air.

So, Charlemagne, what were you talking about with the brother? Well, he was telling me about how when he goes to meetings with these politicians, and he asks things. Go ahead. Go ahead, Reverend Barber. was telling me about how when he goes to meetings with these with these politicians and he asks things go ahead go ahead reverend bob yeah the bottom line is in our campaign the poor people's campaign the national call for moral revival we did an audit of america on five interlocking injustice five injustices that are like interlocking evils, and you've got to address all of them simultaneously because they try to choke the life out of what's left of this democracy. Systemic racism in all of its forms, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of health care, the war economy and militarism, and the false moral narrative of religious nationalism and white evangelicalism.

When you go into meetings and you start talking and you lay out an agenda, you actually have 50 things or 20 things that relate to that, how we deal with it. The question is always, well, what is the most important? Or what one thing? Or, for instance, on race, they'll say, okay, well, we have a commission that we're going to do on racism. And what we say is, we have an agenda here. And then after a while, I finally say,

listen, look at this pandemic. We passed three bills, $3 trillion in less than 50, 40 days back in two weeks, the corporations get everything they want. They get $3 trillion. So if they can get $3 trillion things,

then you need to hear my 50, right? We're not playing that game because politics is not just about listening. So, I mean, one of the things that I'm deeply concerned about right now, I heard it this morning, somebody say, well, you know, Trump this and Trump this,

but, you know, we were getting along before him. I'm saying, but you were getting along doing what? That's right. Getting along doing what? There were 140 million poor people in this country prior to the pandemic. 43% of this nation and 61% of African-Americans were poor and low income prior to this pandemic. And 700 people were dying a day and 200, a quarter million a year. Seven people died from vaping and we had a congressional hearing. Seven people died from vaping and there was a presidential audience in the White House. 700 people dying a day from poverty,

and 61% of African Americans are poor and low wealth, 68% are Latino, and politicians are scared to say poverty. Republicans racialize it, Democrats run from it, nobody deals with the reality of it. So we're not going to just talk about one thing. We need to talk about the comprehensive things that need to be done. Absolutely. To answer your question, Reverend Barber,

why haven't black people received the economic justice they deserve from this country? You know, it has a long history. I don't want to go through the whole history. You know, the thing that they stopped real quick was the 40 acres and the mute. It's kind of like, y'all free, and pause. Two things we weren't fighting for, a long weekend, and the other thing we weren't fighting for was just freedom. It was citizenship, full citizenship.

I think the problem is, one, we've not dealt with the extent of the problem. That's the first thing. Since King's kill, Robert Kennedy was killed in 1968, for about 52 years, if you think about it, the issue of poverty has been wiped off the table. Both parties are trapped, not in the same way, but by a neoliberalism imagination. Ned Bakesley says, one group says if you take care of the middle class and up, everybody else will be okay.

If you take care, what others say is if you take care of the top, it'll trickle down. Well, that's just not true. And so when you're trapped in that imagination and you're not even talking about the extent of the economic injustice. When I say 140 million people, that ought to shock everybody. First of all, the government says there's only 38, 39 million people that are poor. That's not true. According to Columbia, Harvard, it's 140 million. Now, you cannot continue to pass policies year after year after year and say we're getting better a little bit and never deal with the fact that 43% of your entire population in poverty and in this pandemic is going over 50. So you first have to deal with the extent of the issue.

So what do you think the solution should be? How do we solve this problem? Right. Well, again, if I might talk in the terms that I talk in, in terms of fusion, moral fusion analysis, there are several things that block us from dealing with the real economic agenda. One starts with racism, one form of racism, and that's racist voter suppression and gerrymandering, because that's used to lock up the system in a certain way so that so that people can't really uh break through and be engaged what i mean by that we do mapping in our movement and every state that is a racist voterless pressure state that and where the governor the legislature the congressional representatives the senate, the legislature, the congressional representatives, the Senate, and the presidential candidates get elected is skewed by gerrymandering and racism. That's a fact of the matter.

The courts recently called it surgical racism. So that means that your political bodies are not really representative of the people. You can actually have more people vote in a progressive way, but then they not get elected because of racism. Now you say, well, what does that have to do with economics? Well, economics is fostered by policy, not just by charity and not just by one or two people getting rich. It's policy. 54% of all African-Americans, for instance, make less than a living wage. You could change that tomorrow by raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour and pump $638 billion into the economy.

But you can't raise that just by asking corporations to be nice. It has to be a policy. Voter suppression undermines our politics. Let me quickly show you what I mean by that. Every state that is a racist voter suppression state, if you put the map over there, is also a high poverty state, is also a state where the politicians

block living wages and block health care. And the people who are doing that, many of them get elected, not because they want to vote, but because they cheated through racist voter suppression in Germany. So you have, so, and here's the other piece of that. The people who use race

to get elected, once they get elected, they not only pass policies that hurt the overwhelming number of black people, they pass policies that hurt white people because there are more white people that are poor in raw numbers than there are black people. There are more black people, they pass policies that hurt white people because there are more white people that are poor in raw numbers than there are black people. There are more black people that are

impacted by poverty in terms of the percentage, but there are actually more white people in raw numbers. So if your politics are locked up, then your policies are locked up. And what kind of policies do we need? We need living wages. That's right. Immediately. We need guaranteed basic income. Dr. King talked about that years ago. That's right. We need health care.

And every congressperson gets free health care. Every governor gets free health care. But when it comes to the people having the same thing they have, all of a sudden we can't afford it. All right, we have more with Reverend Dr. William Barber. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee,

Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Reverend Dr. William Barber. Yee. So with everything that's been happening now with the pandemic, with coronavirus, do you feel like people are becoming more active and that they're actually stepping up and saying what the demands are? And right before an election, just wanting certain policies and

being more involved in local elections and all of that, do you think that things are about to be somewhat of a revolution? Yeah, I think that most people think that the reaction to George Floyd's murder, lynching, knee killing on camera, death by racism, that's what we saw. I call it a code 66 death by racism. But you miss it if you think it's just about George Floyd. The same way you would miss it if you thought the reaction to the killing of Jimmie Lee Jackson in 1965 was just about Jimmie Lee Jackson. We are seeing public mourning. People are protesting because they know it doesn't have to be like this. People only protest what they believe can be changed. If folk didn't protest, that meant we really would be in trouble because the main people have given up all hope that things could change.

Now, I think that this we see happening has the potential for people to say, wait a minute. When he said, I can't breathe, he was talking about that cop's knee on his neck and those other cops on his back. But I think a lot of people heard that metaphorically. We can't breathe either. That's right. and those other cops on his back. But I think a lot of people heard that metaphorically. We can't breathe either. That's right. Because of the weight of poverty on our necks and the denial of health care on our necks. You see, we're in the midst, it's when this happened.

It happened in the midst of a pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, you had 140 million people poor, 700 people a day dying from poverty. Then you have the pandemic. We have all this negligence and ineptitude of the president and the Senate. And then we have all this money, three bills get passed. It goes to the corporate, goes up, it doesn't come down. And then we take service workers and say, oh, we know what we'll do. We'll give them a name change. That's all they need.

Changing from service worker to essential worker, but we won't give them the essentials they need. So you had three bills passed, not one of those bills guaranteed health care. In the middle of a pandemic, we didn't shift. Not one of those bills said we're going to guarantee sick leave, we're going to guarantee unemployment, we're going to guarantee rent forgiveness. The actual bill that they passed said you could have a moratorium on your rent

for three months, but then the fourth month, you had to pay the three months and the fourth month at the same month. Well, you couldn't pay one month at a time. You know, but really, I mean, really. And we didn't even guarantee, you know, you took this cutoff. So in a pandemic

where you need to wash your hands, there was nothing in there that said you can't cut off people's water. Dang. Right, but like you said, you know, I was talking the other day, I was like, you know, you can't cut off people's water. Dang. Right. But like you said, you know, I was talking the other day. I was like, you know, you say deferment. I ain't got to pay for three months, right? Let's say four months.

Let's say. Then I got to get and find a job. Then when I find a job, you want me to pay the full four months right away? Right. I can't afford it. And you do. How could you? If I couldn't pay, if I could barely pay $1,300, man, you're going to raise my note up so I can make up the four months?

Right. I can't pay that. I'm going to be late. That's right. But you immediately give the corporations $2, $3 trillion. 85% of all that money went up top. 85%. So basically you say to them, we're going to pay you to pay your bill.

In fact, we're going to say poor folk have to pay an 85% surcharge just to get a little teeny bit. We didn't, you know, nobody would, look, probably my breakfast club, you wouldn't go to a club that had an 85% surcharge on you just coming in. Come on, y'all. I mean, we ain't all been saved all our life. Come on. Hey, Reverend Barber, I keep saying that if Barack Obama is JFK,

Joe Biden has the chance to be Lyndon B. Johnson, especially in a moment like this. Do you think he could be as progressive on race and class as LBJ? I think we are in a third reconstruction, the pains of a third reconstruction. The first one was reconstruction right after slavery. Then you had a reaction to that, just like Trump was reacting to Barack Obama.

We had a second Reconstruction, the Civil Rights Movement. Then the reaction to that was the Southern Strategy and Wallace and Nixon and all that. And now we're in the birth pains of a third Reconstruction. I said to Vice President on an Easter podcast. I heard it. All right. That there are moments that crucifixion gives you an opportunity to resurrect.

But you got to take it. There are moments that what you may have said and meant well before doesn't fit. And you have to know that moment. And not only Biden, but the Congress. I keep saying to even to Democrats, all this energy in the streets. What if people, you come out, not, they come out with a hero's bill, but even

that's limited. Because it's limited, they say, well, we can't get passed because of McConnell. Well, why not pass in the House what ought to be passed? And then if McConnell wants to go against people's lives, let him do that publicly. And we filmed that and show it to people. And then the question becomes, do you want to vote for folk who are trying to fight for you to have health care,

or do you want to vote for folk that even in the midst of a pandemic will let you die? Do you want to vote for people who will say you need a living wage and will push that out there, or do you want to vote for people who believe in things that really need to live, corporations? There has to be a dichotomy. And we have to get free of this neoliberal, from the middle-high, middle-up imagination. So I think it's possible, but it's only possible if it's rooted in policy.

It can't just be conversation. And this is the time I think you have to do if it's rooted in policy. It can't just be conversation. And this is the time I think you have to do a major presentation. In fact, this is going to sound strange maybe to some people. And let me say it here. I keep hearing folks say we need a black agenda, but the question is how do we do that? And what I mean by that, if you look at these five interlocking injustices, what I'm looking for and what the Poor People's Campaign is looking for

and why we're meeting on June 20th, 2020 for a mass Poor People's Assembly and moral march on Washington. That day, you're not going to hear from me, more so. You're going to hear from this white coal miner in Kentucky who's hooking up with these black folks on the Mississippi Delta who decided to address racism and poverty. Not just poverty so we don't have to deal with race and not just race so they think that's just dealing with black people. What if we had the Congress and the candidates forget party for a minute. What if you say, here's my plan for healthcare? Let's just

say healthcare, this pandemic. And when I put this plan together, I made sure that addressing the disparities of race was right in the center of putting it together. Now here's the plan. And if I'm elected and this plan is pushed forward, this is how it will impact black people. This is how it will impact Latino people. This is how it will impact children. This is how, that's the grown-up conversation. Right, absolutely.

We got to have. Absolutely. In America, I want in every piece of policy, our campaign says in every policy, we want to know how does it address systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, so forth and so on. And then that way, we move from voting for a person to a person that has a policy. That's right. Hi, we got more with Reverend Dr. William Barber. When we come back, don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Reverend Dr. William Barber. Charlamagne? I keep saying, man, voting doesn't matter

if the person you voting for is not going to go in there and help dismantle the system of white supremacy. Exactly. And then you've got to teach folk what we do in the Poor People's Campaign, is we teach people that racism, when you really push it, it's not just against black people, it's against humanity, it's against the democracy. It hurts everybody. Remember what I said. The same politician that passed racist voter suppression law

blocked living wages and blocked healthcare, and when they do that, it actually blocks more in raw numbers, not in impact. White people. That's why our campaign is organizing people in the hills of Kentucky and in the black streets of Louisville. Because Dr. King said in 65, anytime black poor folk and white poor folk, he said this at the end of the Selma to Montgomery march, I think one of his greatest speeches that we don't reference enough. He said, anytime there's the possibility for poor black folk and poor white people to change the political capitals and to change the policy, the bourbon class,

notice he didn't say Democrat or Republican, he said the bourbon class, the aristocracy, sows division. Sows division by design. And so we have to, first of all, deal with what racism is. And then second of all, we have to examine it in every aspect of policy. And third of all, we have to be able to name specific policies that are going to unpack it. And I think what people misread when you ask these questions on the front end, they act like black people, like, if you ask a question and push me, then you might not vote for me in November. Well, I might not. But if I ask you and maybe you give me 50%, I might look at the other person and say,

well, they're at 20%, so I vote for you, and then I push you out of the election for the rest of the 50%. But you can't just get a pass. I got two quick questions, man. The Poor People's Campaign, that's the movement Dr. MLK Jr. was pivoting to. It's ultimately, I think, what got him killed.

What made you want to take that call, though? Well, it got him killed. You know, it to take that call, though? Well, it got him killed. You know, it pains me to say some of this, but when Dr. King called his nation the greatest purveyor of violence in exactly one year to the date of his death, August 3, 1967, and he started talking about the three evils, poverty, racism, and militarism. And he said that America couldn't be who she pretends to be and promises to be without dealing with all three of those, moral refugia. He said, we got to deal with all three of them. The next morning,

over 100 newspapers wrote against him. Some black newspapers wrote against him. Some black organizations wrote resolutions against him. Prominent organizations. Some ministers turned against him. He lost his invitation to the White House. And the more he started talking about the two Americas, one prosperous and one poor, the more he started bringing together poor and white people and black people around this agenda to deal with racism and poverty. What you see in the street now, white and black folk, but talking about racism, poverty.

Once he did that, he was marked because it was about fundamentally shifting the society. Now, the other half of that story is it was the Black welfare rights women that kind of pushed Dr. King to go in that direction. And Dr. King understood something. You cannot change this society until you change the narrators.

That's what we're doing today. My last question, man, because you are a reverend. I feel like everything that's going on right now is divine, and I truly feel like no good is going to come to America until they do right by black people through legislation and reparations. What do you think? Exactly. You know, you cannot – John Hope Franklin said something that capsulated it for me,

and I'm going to repeat him. God bless him. He's gone on that. We did an interview with him. He said, you know, if I could keep somebody in slavery for 250 years and then let them go and just say, oops, that's what not doing reparations that's not what not doing not dealing with the realities of the injustice that still permeate from 250 years of free labor being taken if I can do that to somebody and then just say well DJ envy oops I'm sorry Kobe free that's what John Hope Franklin said. America can't just say oops. Right. Not just to us, but to the genocide, because that's up to our First Nation people.

You can't just say oops. You can't take and you can't build an entire country on the backs of slavery that was rooted in what we call bad biology, and that is your skin color determines your brain size. Sick sociology, that is black and white people can't be together on the same level, at the same level of humanity. Evil economics, that the end justifies the mean no matter what you do, as long as somebody makes money, it's all right. And then the last one is heretical ontology. That is that God meant for it to be like that.

You can't build an entire economic system and a country on top of that. And then the end of it. And the end of the Jim Crow, legal Jim Crow, say oops. When you still are trapped in so many ways by systemic racism. Can't do that. Politicians will be only as good as we make them. Our political system will be only as good as we make them. And so that's why we can't even wait on them to have an agenda.

We have to have an agenda and then demand that agenda be responded to. And that's what the Poor People's Campaign does. We don't just talk about the numbers and the problems. For every problem we raise, we have a solution. You can go to www.poorpeoplescampaign.org and it's right there, your listeners. And you can join us on June 20, 2020 to hear it, 10 o'clock on every kind of social media on the MSNBC is going to do a big piece on it and let us use their entire social media platform. We want people to tune in to hear white people talking about racism, black people talking about economic issues and telling their

story and saying, we are not going to quit until all five, systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, this war economy, and the false moral and natural religious nationalism are addressed. These things have to be addressed. And if you are bothered by what we do,

remember that when a man is bleeding, ambulances run the light. And it's normal for an ambulance to run the light when folk are in trouble. Dr. King said that. He said, and we need some ambulance drivers now. Some people who are willing to refuse to obey the rules of it's all right, it's okay, just wait and wait again. Too many people are dying. Too many people are suffering.

We must make our political system respond we must do it in our deepest moral and non-violently traditions but it must not be weak it has to be strong has to be a gender-based it has to last for an election and beyond an election my brother thank you man thank you reverend barber. Thank you for even having me, Doc. Yes, sir. Don't be a stranger. I won't. Now, next time, I'm a little mad because y'all didn't drop no music. I guess you don't do it when you tape and see.

So now I won't get out here. Because, like, I am a preacher, but, you know, I can still get down. You don't trust a prophet that can't dance. What you want to hear? If you're playing the song, what you want to hear, Rep? Let me see. Let me see. What I want to hear? What I want to hear? Envy, play him a song. What you want to hear, Rap? Let me see. Let me see. What I want to hear?

What I want to hear today? Fight the powers that be. Fight the powers. Get him. All right. None deal. That'll take you way back. None deal. Fight the powers that be. All right. God bless you. Take care.

You too. Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Lauren London. She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.

So Lauren London was on a Red Table Talk. And just as a disclaimer, they did record this prior to social distancing requirements. And so at the beginning, Jada had to give an updated introduction, talking about George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor. And then she sat down with Lauren London, and they talked about the trauma of gun violence and how it affects women. Now, here is what Lauren London had to say about meeting people who Nipsey Hussle changed their life. I love to meet people that Nip has like really inspired because it feels like he's still here, even though he is in a way. But it's like his purpose that was completely outside of any of us. His purpose is he's touching people still. And I find that when I run into people that tell me how he's changed their life.

Now, she also talked about raising black boys and having to prepare them to interact with police officers. What I instill in them is more about the police, how to handle yourself when you get pulled over. Right. That's more of my education. Yes, protecting them, being black men in America. I wonder how soon it's too soon to have that conversation with your young black boys. Like, when do your young black boys go from being cute to being scary to white America, to police officers? A friend of mine called me yesterday and had that same conversation.

It was like, well, when have you told your kids? And I said, I think Logan was around 13 when we had that same conversation was like, well, when have you told your kids? And I've said, I think Logan was around 13 when we had that first conversation. And I think it was around the same time one of his white friends called him a n***a. But my six-year-old,

I think he's still a little innocent. He doesn't have to necessarily... I don't want to put that stress on him right now. When he gets a little old, I think maybe 10, 11, but I don't hide it from him. I don't hide the news from him. They watch the news. They know about coronavirus. They know about COVID-19.

They know about George Floyd. So they do know what's going on, but I haven't had that necessary conversation yet. It's just a rough conversation to have with kids, to tell your kids that you will probably be treated differently because of the color of your skin. Like you don't know when to plant that seed, you know, you know, yeah. Tough conversation. All right. Lauren London also talked on Red Table Talk about advice that she can give to other people who are coping with the loss of a loved one. Here's what she said. For me, what's really been important is like connecting with God. And that's been a struggle because something horrible happens in your eyes and you're like, how God? And knowing that there is life after this life, it's not easy. I don't always wake up on the enlightened side of the bed, you know.

Right. And the days that I don't, I let myself because I'm human and I find things that matter. And so I try to live with the purpose. Lord have mercy, man. Prayers up for Lauren London always. Always sending Lauren London positive energy, love, and light, man. R.I.P. Nipsey. Nipsey Hussle.

Absolutely. Yes, a lot of people are like, man, we would love to hear Nipsey's voice right now in particular. Right now. Absolutely. A hundred particular. Right now. Absolutely. A hundred percent. All right. So Khalees has went on her Instagram page and she also feels like the music industry, instead of just doing a Blackout Tuesday, should also help out black musicians.

She said if the music industry wants to support black lives, labels and platforms can start with amending contracts, distributing royalties, diversifying boardrooms, and retroactively paying back all of the black artists and their families they have built their empires on. Erykah Badu and Azealia Banks also shared that message as well. Not a bad message. She's right. Yeah, I agree with that. She's right.

It's not that they, it's that the record label contracts have never been fair to any artist. Correct. You know what I'm saying? Period. But it's, you know, black artists have made these labels so much money. So it's just like, it's bad business, right? They only get a percent of the record sold, like a small percent, maybe a couple of pennies

for what they sell, which is ridiculous. Like artists have to move on the road. That's why right now artists, a lot of artists are effed up. Don't get it twisted. Don't get the showing cash and money and all that on Instagram. Artists make their money majority of them by doing shows and being on the road. The fact that they can't be on the road and all the streams that they're seeing, they're not getting a majority of that money at all. And it's not right. Yeah, I always wanted to do record labels, old artists.

I had a conversation with an executive and what he was telling me was that a lot of times when they do sign an artist and you know it's a risk because most of the artists it's very small percentage of artists that actually become stars but when that does happen they do go back and renegotiate a contract because they do want it to be more fair to the artist so that the original contract that they signed you know they want to make sure that they do more for them and this uh executive also told me that when they do a 360 deals a lot of times they don't really cash in on like the merchandise and the touring and all of that that's why i said i wonder i'm not

saying it's completely fair but i'm saying that's you know that's why i said i don't know if if record labels old artists they old artists oh is a strong word because you signed the contract. It is a business at the end of the day. It's just bad business. Is it bad business or is it just a record business? I don't know. Both. Both.

Both, both, both. I mean, I think it is bad business, but I do think it's a record business, but I think it needs to change. And I'm hoping when we have people in power like your Jay-Z's that own Rock Nation that signs all these, that's helping these artists out or helping them to sign better deals, which they are, and that's what you need. You need the artists that got got to protect themselves too.

Let's be clear. You need the artists that got got to change the situation. Because there are some artists who get a big chunk of money and then they don't produce and then the label has to eat that also. So it always will be a few artists that'll keep a label afloat and then hundreds more that end up being write-off, I guess.

All right, well, I'm Angela Yee and that is your Rumor Report. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Now, Charlamagne, who you giving that donkey to? We need New Orleans Saints Drew Brees to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a war with them, please. Been waiting for this one.

All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You get donkey of the day. You dumbass. You get donkey of the day. You dumbass. You are a donkey. It's time for donkey of the day.

I'm gonna fatten all that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlamagne to tap these gloves. Let's go. They had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the donkey of the day. They chose you. The breakfast club, bitches.

Who's donkey of the day today? Donkey of the day for Thursday, June 4th, goes to New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees. Yeah, the mayonnaise is very, very heavy on this sandwich. Okay. I've been having a lot of conversations with my white friends this week. They all want to know what to say, how to say it in regards to not only the death of George Floyd, but about their place on this planet in general. You know, the whole white privilege, white supremacist conversation. See, sadly, there's not a white person in America who can say that at some point someone in their family tree, someone in their bloodline, their ancestors were part of the problem.

Okay, the problem being white supremacy. It is what it is, people. Nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be embarrassed about. No matter how history books attempt to sanitize it, no matter how sweet they try to make it sound, all America was not built on Christian values, okay, like they try to sell it. All right, please stop. Okay, America was built on Christian values, okay, like they try to sell it, all right? Please stop, okay? America was built on the back of slavery and racism. That's it, point blank, period, poo, all right? Slavery was America's first big business. This country was founded by old white men who were not attempting to make this country all-inclusive for everyone, especially black people, okay? We were property, like actual literal property. That's why we got

to constantly tell people black lives matter because in the Constitution it says black people were three-fifths of a person. The three-fifths rule. That's why we were treated as property. Okay, so that's why we got to constantly remind you, no, I am actually a life, not a piece of property. And to this day, some still look at us as property. Okay, so yes, my white allies, that's the harsh truth.

If you are ready and willing to start from that place, then we can figure out how to dismantle this mechanism called white supremacy. Now, in regards to speaking out, you shouldn't have to ask me how to speak out for another human in regards to their pain, okay? If you are a spiritually conscious person in any way, if you are just a human being with empathy, when you saw that video of George Floyd, you should have felt the way and whatever you felt, express it. OK, you don't need a black person's permission for that. OK, this is a matter. This is a matter of race, but it's also just a matter of being human. So if you want to know if you want to know what to do, it's simple.

Just stand up for other humans. Sadly, some people just don't get it. I'm not even mad at them for not getting it because we all live in our individual bubbles. And when you are a white male, you definitely live in a bubble because this system, for the most part, works perfectly for you. Okay, this white supremacist system, whether you are prejudiced, bigoted, racist or not, works great for most white males because it was designed by white males. So it's always going to be built in advantages, which is why when someone like Drew Brees doesn't get it,

it doesn't surprise me at all. See, Drew Brees was giving an interview with Yahoo Finance. During the interview, he was asked his thoughts on the subject of players potentially kneeling during the national anthem for the 2020 season. Let's hear it. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America. Let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played and when I look at the flag of the United States. I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country

during World War II. And in many cases, it brings me to tears thinking about all that has been sacrificed, not just those in the military, but for that matter, those throughout the civil rights movements of the 60s and everyone and all that has been endured by so many people up until this point. And is everything right with our country right now? No. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. We can all do better, and that we are all part of the solution. Flag on the play. A violation has occurred. A legal use of white privilege. Drew Brees is marginalizing what black people are experiencing in this country because he's seeing the world through the lens of the oppressor, not the

oppressed. I am happy that when Drew Brees sees the flag of the United States of America and his grandfathers who fought for this country in World War II, I'm glad he shed a couple tears. That's beautiful. But, Drew Brees, black people fought in World War II. But imagine fighting for a country that at that point didn't even give you the same civil liberties that it gave your grandparents, Drew Brees. Do you know when the U.S. entered World War II, Jim Crow segregation had entered every single aspect of American society. Do you know that there were several segregated units in the military during World War II? So even though we all supposed to have a common enemy in a war, this country still had us divided.

OK, still looked at us as an enemy. This is why so many black folks have a problem with patriotism. How can we salute a country that historically enslaved us, marginalized us, and continues to brutalize us? See, Drew Brees is a white, privileged male. That's how he sees America, okay? It's all roses. He's living his life like it's golden.

Okay, this white supremacist system works well for him because it's supposed to. I am not arguing with any white person about why people choose to take a knee in regards to police brutality. There's nothing to debate, okay? If you don't get it by now, you don't want to get it. And if you're committed to misunderstanding the situation, whatever. Now, I had a convo. I did have a convo with my good brother, Michael Eric Dyson, this weekend. Drop on the clues bombs for

Michael Eric Dyson. He was explaining to me why you do have to teach white people, because whether you know it or not, you are unintentionally teaching them. So you might as well be intentional about teaching them. So I keep that in mind at times like this. And I defer to one of our greatest teachers, Killer Mike. He was on with Jalen and Jacoby and he had had some lessons for Drew Brees. Let's hear it. I would like to know what he considers disrespect, because when I travel and we perform in Germany, I never see a Nazi flag, because Nazis are a part of history that Germany understands as a cancer and corrupt, and they've ridded themselves of. Drew Brees plays in the deep south. As we travel through the south, we see the Confederate flag everywhere that bounds. So if you're going to tell me about

flag and disrespecting the American flag, the fact that you live in a region that they still find a rebel flag or the Confederate flag, and you don't adamantly speak against that on a regular basis, just tells me that you're protecting the way of life or what you think is right. The American flag stands for the First Amendment and the ability to say what you feel about situations. Now, you bear the brunt of that. You may get blackballed out of the NFL, but you have the right to. So if you support and you don't want to see the American flag disrespected,

don't look at it on Budweiser shorts at picnics. Don't look at it on bikini shots in Playboy. Don't look at it on your favorite album covers Playboy. Don't look at it on your favorite album covers because you think that rock band is rocking for you. Be all the way with it. You're an intelligent football player, but that was an incredibly stupid thing to say. But I'm not going to be so burdened with the religion that has become Americanism, nationalism, that I forget that the flag represents the United States Constitution. And the United States Constitution was written by a bunch of people who chose to

protest violently in order to have a fray. So what you interpret as disrespect probably is the most patriotic thing happening today. Just something to think about. Something to think about, Drew Brees. If I had a lesson for Drew Brees, because I'm nowhere near as

eloquent as Killer Mike, but if I had a lesson for Drew Brees, it would be a simple homework assignment, and it's this. If you don't understand why players kneel, if you don't understand why players take a knee, then go watch the video of that white devil cop kneeling, taking a knee on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. If you don't get it after that, well,

we might just need you to shut the F up forever on all issues regarding race in this country and sit the rest of this season called life out. Please let Chelsea Handler give Drew Brees the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise. I wonder if he's going to address these statements now. He has to.

Yeah, I'm sure that he'll have an enlightening moment and say that, you know, he was taught so much in the past 24 hours. Yeah, he has to. I'm sure he will. Plus, he kneeled before. Yeah, he did. I don't know if he was just doing that to be a good teammate or he actually knew what was going on.

Who knows? All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, ask Yee. 800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice or any type of advice. Call Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. Hey, what's up, bro? What's your question for Ye? Hey, good Hey, good morning. Hey, what's up, bro? What's your question for Yee? Hey, good morning, good morning. Hey, oh, man. First of all, I say black men don't cheat. That's right.

All day. Put your black fist in the air, King. You already know, man. It's already up there. Man. Is it making me feel like you cheated? Oh, boy. No, my wife.

Okay, she cheated on you. Yes. And it's been going on for far too long. I'm tired of it. Now I need some advice. I have a seven-year-old, and I told my son that I'd never leave him. And now I'm in a bad predicament because I have to leave my wife because I'm tired of it.

Well, you know, leaving your wife doesn't mean you're leaving your son. Right, right, right. But my son, he wants me to be right there with him. He wants me to help him with his homework. He wants me to be there, be the father figure. Tyrone, you better still be a father figure and still help him with his homework. Yes, indeed. I am.

I'm always a father figure. Always. I don't care if I'm in New York, not New Orleans, and I'll still be the same for the second. Right. So how did you catch your wife cheating on you? How do you know? I hear my wife talking on the phone. I'm in the bathroom.

You know, you're in the bathroom. She's sitting in the next room, and the walls are thin, and she's on the phone. And I hear her talking to her dude, and I hear the dude say, when you go back to work, this is Memorial Day weekend. And she said, Tuesday. I'm like, Tuesday.

And I hear her say, well, you know, be on time. Be on time. So I'm like, all right. So I get something to go to work, but I don't go to work. I go and park in an apartment complex right behind mine. I say I'm going to go to work late today just to see. You know, stakeout. And before, yeah, just before this happened,

like about two weeks before that, you know, a good friend of mine, you know, right now he's, you know, he's locked up right now for doing something to somebody that, you know, one of his partners was sleeping with his wife while he was at work, while he was off shooting. He come home, do that, one of his partners was sleeping with his wife while he was at work, while he was off. So he come home, do that. He killed her.

You know, like two weeks before that, you know, he called me and gets in contact with me. So I'm talking to her. You know, that's God giving me a sign, like, think before you act, you know. Yeah, don't do nothing stupid. You don't want to end up in jail. So I did. So I did think, you know, I didn't even go in the house, but I saw a dude go in the house. Damn, that's tough in your own house.

That's disrespectful. Yeah, that's disrespectful. You know, my mind was like, well, you know, she just got to go. She just got to get out. So what happened? Did you confront them? Did you go back home? Did you call it?

Like, what happened? The dude was supposed to be my boy, too. Oh, it's your friend she was cheating with. Yeah. So you call it? Like, what happened? Oh, it's your friend she was cheating with. So you confronted them? Sheesh. So he just lied. You know, I'm like, man, come on. Now, what did your wife say when you confronted her?

She tried to say, like, I didn't see nothing. Like, I didn't hear nothing on the phone, you know. And, you know, she tried to make it seem like I'm crazy. And I'm tired of it. I can't take it no more. Right. So you're 100% over it. You ready to move on. I can't blame you.

She not only did she cheat, she also lied. She's trying to act like you're a fool. And she cheated in the house. Right, and I'm trying to tell you, to be honest, maybe I'm going to try to work it out. And the first thing she said is, ask the kids.

I'm not putting the kids in my business. And I'll take it. Yeah, no, don't do that. That's terrible advice. It sounds like you're very unhappy. You already know what you want to do. You want to leave this marriage. Your wife is still lying.

I can't believe that you had the willpower to not go in the house after you saw him go in there, because I definitely would have been right back inside. But kudos to you. Like you said, you had a sign from God after what happened with your friend who's in jail right now. So, you know, that took a lot. And I commend you for that.

When it was just yesterday, I told her, I said, look, now, you still want to talk to this dude? But look, if you talk to him and I hear you talking to him again, that's it. That's it. She was talking to him again. I told her, I said, you know, you got to go. And when the brother broke and the first thing she said was, I'm going to call the police. Wow.

Keep in mind, that what we're going through right now in these days and times, That's a terrible thing to say to you. She is a white woman. Oh, s***. Oh, sorry. Yeah, real, real, real.

Tyrone, listen. I got to get out of here. You are Tyrone. Get your, and get out. That's all I have to say. So, listen, you are Tyrone. Get your and get out. That's all I have to say. So listen, I understand your kid is the most important thing to you and your life right now. So you need to make sure that you handle the I think you need to be the one to initiate everything so that no matter what happens, like she can't call the cops on you. You need to go ahead and file for divorce so that it'll be more favorable for the position that you're in right now.

And whatever you do, don't text or email or write anything or make any calls that are threatening in any way so that you can make sure that everything is straight and smooth with your custody of your child and all of that. And get your own place or she has to get her own place, whatever y'all decide. But you do have to start making those steps to get out of there and make sure that your son knows

this has nothing to do with him, that you love him very much. And you're right when you say keep the kids out of it. Right. I sure thank y'all. You know what I mean? You're the man, bro. I appreciate you, King. Blessings to you, man. Alright, man. Take it easy.

Y'all have a good one. Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. We got more when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? How you doing? My name's Todd. What's up, bro? What's your question for Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? How you doing? My name's Ty. What's up, bro?

What's your question for Yee? Me and my girlfriend, we've been together about eight years now. Never been no problems in our life with family. But since all this Black Lives Matter and the stuff that's been going on, and I've been to protests. I've been to about five protests in five days. And we blocked out the Henner State the other day. And we were met with guns and all that.

So my girlfriend's grandmother decided to give us a call. And she's, like, telling us how she's disappointed in us that we weren't following the curfew rules and we were on the highway blocking traffic, blah, blah, blah. Basically, you know, dismissing everything about, like, the cops coming on the highway, you know, putting guns in our face for no reason in a peaceful protest. And I'm just, like, I kind of got into her about it. And I'm wondering, like, should I continue to educate her about it or try to educate her about it? Or should I

like step back and take caution because it's my girlfriend's grandma. I don't want to, you know, start anything with me and my girl because my grandma is too, you know, uneducated about this. What does your girlfriend think about this? Well, I mean, she's on my side. She's a sheriff,

actually, and she's with me in every march. Like, you know what I'm saying? She's screaming black power. She's screaming no justice, no peace. She does videos. And she's just, her grandmother's mad at her because she's like, oh, you can lose your job, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She's just like, well, I mean, yeah, you're right. I can, but it's like, I'm going to do what's right.

Right. Well, listen, whenever people are trying to have a revolution, there's always people who aren't on board, right? Who aren't going to be agreeing with the ways that you do things. And sometimes those people are in your own family. And from my own experience of having to deal with grandparents who were not like that at all, you know, sometimes, first of all, I would say this is more of your girlfriend's situation because it is her grandmother. So I don't want you and your girlfriend to have issues because of that and so it feels like this might be something that she'll have to deal with and you have to follow her lead

on that because it's her family yeah because she's she's like a real like family person that's why I like I wanted to you know I mean educate her even more, I don't know, because I don't want it. I don't want to have trouble with me and my girl. We haven't had trouble in a long time, and I don't want to start. I think you and your girlfriend should have a conversation about how you guys collectively want to handle it. And I think you should follow her lead on that. Now, if this was your family, then I would say, you know, that's up to you how you want to handle it. You know your family.

And I know it can be really frustrating to have these conversations with people who are set in their ways and aren't trying to hear what you have to say. So, you know, sometimes it is a losing battle to have those arguments and you still have to keep going out there and doing the work. But I don't want you and your girlfriend who are in accord right now to have issues. So I would let my girlfriend take the lead on this, tell her, look, this is your family, your grandmother, however you want to handle it. I want to respect that. And I'm always down to have respectful conversations, but that is your grandmother. So it's kind of more on her.

I just feel like when I go around now, it's going to be, like, different. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because when I first met them, I don't talk as they would say, you know, black, quote-unquote. I talk intelligent. And when I first met them, they told me, like, oh, you're not black.

I hate when people say that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. So I know when I go to her house for the next family event or whatever, it's going to be really awkward. So I just

feel like we need to have a conversation but at the same time, like you said, it's my girlfriend's family so I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and see what she's going to do, I guess. She should have a conversation with them without you there also, you know, and try to have that conversation on her end.

But like I said, you know, if that means I'm going to support my girlfriend, but I'm not really trying to engage in too much conversation. Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes it's really hard to try to force people to understand things that they don't want to understand. Yeah, yeah, You know, sometimes it's really hard to try to force people to understand things that they don't want to understand. Yeah, yeah. That's true. But we appreciate you, and you keep on doing what you have to do, and you and your girlfriend, and don't let things like this cause a wedge in your relationship.

I even feel like if I need to just kind of fall back and stay away from them, I will, you know? But you can't ever force people to understand something. All you can do is engage in a conversation, and it can be too frustrating for you too at times you've made the attempts yes ma'am well i definitely appreciate that you just like made it made it clear for me that i'm doing the right thing when it comes to this right now yeah you did your part yes ma'am all right take care ty i want to tell y'all three thank you because I work and I'm driving all day and you guys

help us get through the day. Or at least the morning. Thank you so much, brother. Thank you for listening. You know, we family, so we appreciate you. Ask Yee. 800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice or any type of advice, you can call Yee. Now, we got rumors on the way?

Yes, and we are going to talk about Trina and some remarks that she made on her show earlier this week. And we'll tell you the back and forth that happened on social media as a result of it. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Listen up.

It's just in.ocaust gossip the rumor report it's the rumor report the breakfast club so trina was trending yesterday and those are because of the comments that she made on her morning show when she was talking about the protesters in miami now she was upset about a friend's business being destroyed. She was upset about people dying and lives that have been taken away. And here's what she had to say about the protesters. They need to make the curfew at 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. That's how I feel. No.

Keep everybody off the streets, these animals off the streets that are running around in Miami-Dade County acting like they have escaped from a zoo. Lock them up at 5 p.m. so the streets could be nice and clean. That's how I feel. Talking about black lives. The black lives that matter, right? The same black lives that are taken from the hands of other black people. Those matter too, huh? All y'all fake, but the protest is in the fake.

Oh, we so concerned about George Floyd. Y'all not marching. I'm not even caring about this man. People are just doing it maliciously. Everybody was in the loop and then burning up stuff. by George Floyd. I'm not even caring about this man. People are just doing it maliciously. Everybody wasn't looking and burning up stuff. When the police get behind you and the red and blue lights come on,

you're not supposed to be scared. I'm never scared. I have my license and registration and insurance. I'm not scared. Okay, Trina. I don't agree with nothing you're saying, but I like the energy. Why did you just say that like that? Because she got me amped. She got me amped. I don't agree with nothing you're saying, but I like the energy. Why did you just say that like that? Because she got me amped.

She got me amped. I want to scream now. I got time today. I got time today, damn it. All right. All right. And then she had a back and forth after that on social media with Masika. You know, Masika from Love and Hip Hop. And, you know, Masika was saying that she needed to come to the front of the congregation, basically.

And she asked Kaya to come and drag this coon Trina back to the swamp before I get her. And then the two of them had a really nasty back and forth on social media. Trina told Masika, first of all, bum ass, find out who your baby daddy really is. And she told her, and you don't know what the F you are talking about. You think you can come up here and talk ish to me? You scumbag. You can't. How I'm ready and I'm not the one. And then Trina told her,

first of all, that video was edited to what I said. Second of all, if you don't know the exact facts, S-T-F-U. If you want answers of clarification, say that. But you will not think you can come up here and talk ish about me because you can't. And things really spiraled after that. Masika told her, pull up. Okay, eyes are coming.

Let me book this flight so I can fight your dumb ass. Wait, Trina, you're acting like an animal. Don't you dare quote Rihanna or an actual activist who pulls up. Girl, the word clout wasn't even invented when you were relevant. Take your afternoon nap. And she also called her Aaron. First of all, I didn't see you take an afternoon nap. I can hear it right now. Go ahead. I didn't like the afternoon nap. And she also called her Aaron. You didn't like that part, right? Because you take an afternoon nap. I can hear it right now. Go ahead.

I didn't like the afternoon nap part. Afternoon nap is great. Secondly, was all of that in capital letters, G? No, but some of it was. In my mind, it all was. Some of it was in capitals. But yeah, it went on and on and on from there.

I'm going to be honest. I did not like seeing these two women going at it like that on social media with the world weighing in and speaking to each other in that way. Now, this morning, Trina did get on the radio and apologize. Here's what she said. Me in my trainers where I'm automatically speaking for black people. I am the black people. I am black people. That's why I'm speaking for. And I'm not going to say black people are animals. And this is why the day after when we spoke to the commissioner, I said to Trick, well, I learned a lot more about what's really happening. And it's more than just in the streets or people, you know, doing whatever. It's the commissioners.

It's the governors, the mayors, all these people. It's the chief of police. I had no idea of that. So now I'm understanding that. And these are the people that has to protect the cities. No, I don't like that energy, Trina. I need that hand clapping, I got time today energy. I don't like that little docile apology energy.

I don't like that. Well, she's explaining herself. She's explaining herself and what she meant. Sometimes when we get upset and we get mad, things come out of our mouth that we could have said differently. And maybe that's what she's clearing up. Well, listen, apologies are always great when you know you're wrong. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that wrong, but it's just backlash. Apologies. I don't like backlash. Apologies.

I don't like apologies that when, you know, people have been coming at you, you like, OK, I'm sorry now. Well, she did say she had conversations with local officials and they did educate her on some things. So, you know, it is a big thing to be able to apologize and admit that you were wrong and have these conversations with people. You know, I still don't really like the dragging of people like that on social media. And I am all for educating. I love Trina, though. I just don't know what she thought was wrong in that situation. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have to know why

people are protesting. You have to know why they're angry, even when it comes to the looting. You may not like it, but you know, you don't got to call them animals. It's not like they're just out there doing that for no reason. It's a reaction to, you know, black people getting killed in this country at the hands of the police over and over. Yeah, but she's

seen it from a different side, I'm sure. And that doesn't make it right. She's seen it from a side. One of her best friends owns a clothing store or a store. And, you know, everything that she worked for, they pretty much took. So that's what she was saying. I get it. I think she admitted she was wrong.

Yeah, I get it. But it's material things and property that can't be fixed, replaced, insurance. I agree. You can't, you know, fix. And there's a lot of things that led up to this. And this is an ongoing conversation because there's a lot of people who have felt like that. And I see a lot of people expressing themselves in that way

and wondering why are people protesting? Why are they doing this? Why are they going after Target? I see people saying this all day long, up and down the timeline. So it's an ongoing conversation. Those buildings will be back. Those black bodies won't.

All right. Now, another person who actually had to roll back what he said was Drew Brees. He made some comments about NFL player protests and he was asked about whether or not he thinks players will be kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes. And here's what Drew Brees said. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America. Let me let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played. And when I look at the flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War Two. And is everything

right with our country right now? No, we still have a long way to go. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together. We can all do better. And then we are all part of the solution. Well, of course, those comments cause a huge amount of backlash from other NFL players, players on his own team, from everybody. LeBron James, you know, Steven Jackson. Now Drew Brees has posted, first he posted a picture of a black and white hand interlocked. And then he said, I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates, the city of New Orleans, the black community, NFL community, and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday.

And speaking with some of you, it breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused. So he said he wants to talk about respect, unity, and the solidarity centered around the American flag and the national anthem. And he made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on the issues we are facing right now as a country. They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead, those words have become divisive and hurtful. And I have misled people into believing that somehow I am an enemy.

This could not be further from the truth and is not an accurate reflection of my heart or my character. And then he talks about where he stands with the black community and the fight against systemic racial injustice and police brutality. And he said, support the creation of real policy change that will make a difference. He also condemned the years of oppression. I mean, it goes on.

So he's asking for forgiveness. I gave him donkey of the day today, and donkey of the day still stands. I wonder if he's ever spoken out against a police officer killing a black man. You know how they're so quick to be like, you shouldn't disrespect the flag, and the flag means something. I wonder if he's ever had that same energy for, you know, a police officer killing an unarmed black man. Has he ever jumped out there and said, you shouldn't kill unarmed black people.

You shouldn't kill black people. You know what I mean? I wonder. But, you know, he's knelt with his teammates before. And just reading his comments, you see that, you know, some of the people that follow him, you know, you don't have to apologize. You were right. Don't apologize now.

That was just your opinion. You know, there's a lot of people that believe in what he said, which I don't understand. I really don't. And by the way, putting the black hand, shaking the white hand, that's the whitest apology in the world. Like, I would rather you put vanilla ice cream and chocolate ice cream. Yes. Put a penis on that. Put a penis on that. You put vanilla ice cream and chocolate ice cream. Yes. I would rather you put vanilla ice cream and chocolate ice cream, man.

My goodness. That handshake looked crazy. All right. Well, we'll see what happens next. And that was very well crafted as like more of a press release. Yeah, man. I just don't. And the black and white handshake look like the beginning of a perp ad.

Stupid. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Revolt, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Get your request in. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Hi, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have a special guest on the line, Deanna Williams. Welcome. Good to be here with you, Envy, Angela, and Charlamagne. Now, Deanna Williams, I know this is an important time because we have so many things to talk about, but it is also Black Music Month, something that you actually were one of the architects of.

So let's talk about that. Yes, Angela. In 1979, President Jimmy Carter hosted the first June Black Music Month event at the request of the godfather, Clarence Avant, and some other prominent people in the industry. But the co-founders of this period of time are multi-Grammy Award winning songwriter, producer Kenny Gamble, broadcaster Ed Wright, myself, and members of the Black Music Association. And it's the 41st anniversary of June Black Music Month. Now tell us why it's so important that people understand and respect Black music. Absolutely, Envy.

It's very important because the music industry generated $20 billion last year. And when you look at the top of the charts right now, at the top of the 100 list of top selling records, eight of those top 10 records are by black artists. You guys know that hip hop is the number one genre around the world, not just here in America, but all over the planet. So what does that tell us? Black people are making and selling a ton of music. And it's important because it's our culture and it's indigenous to America. You talk about those billions of dollars, you know, I think a lot of it is not trickled down to the artists. A lot of us is not trickled down to the producer. A lot of it's not trickled down to the actual singer, which is very, very sad. You know, people are making billions of dollars and there are artists

there that are still struggling, losing their homes, losing their cars, and that have sold millions and millions of records. That's the horrible thing about that. That's been going on for a long time, which is why as a proud member of the National Museum of African American Music based in Nashville. We will be opening September 2020. It is an institution designed to highlight the contributions of black folks in this country from the 1600s on to now. But we are also fighting for artists to get more, not just artists, producers, engineers, music makers in general, to get a larger piece of this $20 billion. And, Envy, back to your question about why is June Black Music Month

important? Well, this is a multi-billion dollar business, one. We don't tend to think of our music that way, but it is. It's created by Black people. It's co-opted and imitated by others, and we appreciate the compliments, but we want to be able to economically participate in all of these billions of dollars. And I might add, it's the everyday man and woman who's enriching the coffers of those major record companies. We want our fair share. So the museum is a repository. We have over seven galleries of beautiful information, artifacts about our contribution. Our contributions keep getting overlooked. Black folks, we were taken from our original homes in Africa, brought over here, and free labor for 400 years. So what you hear in our music is passion, it's joy, it's pain, and it's our soundtrack every day. Think about how much music you consume.

First of all, let me also just say that June Black Music Month is an opportunity to celebrate the three of you. You are promoters of the culture. Think about how much music you played, Andy, in your career. Absolutely. Okay? You play music that can elevate the spirits of people, and we use it to get us through hard times, good times, turn up, fall in love, fall out of love. Music is integral to our survival in this country. You know what else, though, is fascinating to me? And we're going to, I want to talk more about the

museum. And I do, of course, want to talk more about Black Music Month, how you actually got this legislation passed. Because I read about how you had never done anything like this before. And I know a lot of us right now feel really powerless as far as what can we do in our government to make things happen, you know, to create change. And so can you discuss how that actually happened? Because I don't think people understand the process of how you can initiate that and actually bring about some type of change. Oh, well, I appreciate you sharing that. Okay. So 1979, President Jimmy Carter hosted this big event that on the lawn of the White House, it had been done by the Country Music Association

years earlier, but then he said June is Black Music Month. This was at the encouragement of the Black Music Association. Well, fast forward to when President Clinton was in office. I wrote him and asked him to host a similar event. Well, the White House came back and said, well, we've gone through the archives and we see where President Carter declared June Black Music Month. But go get us some legislation. Come back. President Clinton will sign a proclamation and we'll celebrate June Black Music Month officially from the perspective of the White House and Congress. So I put on my most comfortable pair of shoes and started walking office to office on Capitol Hill, knocking on people's doors, writing letters. We just really worked hard. And I don't want to take the credit alone because, again, there were a group of people.

But I was out in the front pushing. And finally, the legislation, I wrote the draft for it. They put all the where as and it got passed. And then I was in and out of the White House, private meetings in the Oval Office with President Clinton, President George Bush, on and on. And that's basically the story of June Black Music Month. But we're in our 41st year. And again, I want to stress that it's an economic engine and it's our American soundtrack. It's how we get up in the morning. It's how we function through the day. And now as we see American cities and international

capitals supporting our efforts here in America against police brutality, music has always been, protest music has always been at the forefront of our endeavors here in this country. And it's no different right now. So as the co-chair of the Music Industry Relations Committee, and on behalf of Henry Hicks, who is the CEO of the museum, we're taking a strong stand in solidarity with people who are protesting around the world about the injustices of racism. Part of what the birth of Black music in this country was born out of the cruelty of racism. So long answer to your short question, but that's how the legislation got passed and has been celebrated by every American president since. And again, if people want to become part of our movement and support, they can do so by joining.

Go to blackmusicmuseum.com. And happy birthday, June Black Music Month. 41 years young. 41 years. And we're going to have you and Henry Hicks on as close as to when the museum is going to open so we can make sure we really ramp that up. Absolutely. Thank you so much for your support. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Thank you again. I support you. Thank you. All right. Thank you, De for your support. I really appreciate it. Well, thank you so much again. Well, thank you again. I support you. I appreciate y'all. All right. Thank you, Deanna Williams, for joining us. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Yes, man. For everybody out there that's, you know, doing a little,

so we all don't have to do a lot, I just want you to know that act as if what you do makes a difference, because it does. Breakfast club, bitches! You all finished or y'all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.

This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that?

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