The Breakfast Club - Rza and Producer Mathematics interview and more

Episode Date: October 16, 2017

Monday 10/16- Today on the show we had legendary rapper RZA and Producer Mathematics where they spoke about the Wu Tang sound, selling the album to Shkreli, Azealia Banks and more. Also, we opened up the phone lines for "Shoot Your Shot" so one of our listeners can try to shoot their shot at a crush. This time it was a listener who fell in love after a 3 some. Moreover, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to officer Hanifah Davis who attacked twin girls at a school. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What kind of show is this? My son listens to this show. The Breakfast Club. With DJ Envy. The captain of this bitch. With Angela Yee. The only one who can keep these guys in check. With Charlamagne Tha God.

I'm a lovable asshole. And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches! Good morning, USA! Hey, good morning, DJ Envy. Good morning, Angela Yee. It's Monday! Yes. Back to the work week.

All weekend. And I was at the Revolt Music Conference. And I do have to say, every year the Revolt Music Conference gets better and better and better. Now, I went to the dinner where they were honoring Queen Latifah. Okay. And it was fun. Daniel Caesar performed, then SZA performed. She did a great job.

Everybody gave her a standing ovation. It was incredible. And then Lauryn Hill performed. Really? She was on time and everything? She was on time and everything. And it was very exciting. Everybody was going crazy. It was just a beautiful event. She actually performed some of Queen Latifah's songs as well, which was really nice.

And she sounded great. She looked great and everything. Yeah, the Revolt Music Conference wasn't as... It's getting better and better. We broadcast live from Friday. The broadcast sounded good. Yeah, the broadcast sounded good. But you know, some things, when it's brand new, of course, there's some kinks you have to work out. Nah, B, they should have had that together.

No, it was good this year. It was great this year. That's what you would want, though. When you start a conference every year, it should get better. It is getting better. You learn from the year before that and the year before that. I did a Q&A with the head of global marketing for Beats by Dre, so shout out to Jason White.

And I did the Drink Champs podcast live with Nori and DJ EFN, and we had a lot of special guests come through, so that was fun. Okay. Somebody's going to have to get signed from the Revolt Music Conference soon.

Oh, Bryson Tiller was the last one. Did they claim that? Yeah. Yeah, they claimed it. You got to claim those wins because if not, then people feel like they're going out there for nothing.

Definitely got to claim that. That was definitely one of them. A lot of artists were talking to me about some great connections that they made while they were out there. Some people want to stay independent, but they get to meet different producers, different people from different companies, get advice. Well, they learn about streaming. They learn about production. They learn about a lot. It's very educational. And they get to see Kevin Lyles and Diddy's there and Andre Harrell.

Andre Harrell was crying. Really? He actually broke down a little when he was presenting at the Queen Latifah dinner. Dope, dope, dope, dope. And after that, I flew out to, this is like homecoming season for me. So I get to touch a lot of the colleges and speak to a lot of the students. I went to FAMU Friday night in Tallahassee, Florida. But not only DJing, because DJing is the fun part, but you get to just talk to students

because they have so many questions about getting in the industry and getting into radio and broadcasting. So I did that Friday, and then Saturday I went to Louisville, the University of Louisville, and I did the same thing with them. I'm going to be in Kentucky this Saturday. Yeah, I was there this week. I'm going to be in Louisville on Friday. Really? I'm going to be at the University of Kentucky this Saturday.

Yeah, so I was there. And then this week I'm at, of course, Hampton University. It's Hampton's homecoming, so I'll be in Hampton. And then I dip out to Howard as well. So I'll be just, I love going to the colleges, man. Those kids give me so much energy and have so many questions on how to get in the industry. It's always fun. Well, drop on the Clues Bonds of Chicago.

I was there Saturday. We had a men's empowerment conference. Salute to DLSmen.com. My man, Lewis Carr. It was me and my guy, Sway, and Dougie Fresh, and D-Nice. And I can't forget the pastor's name right now. But it was dope because it was like 300 kids from Chicago, 300 young kings. And it was just men only.

Kept everybody else out the room. And we just discussed life. That real conversation. Just this real conversation about life. It's needed sometimes. And we got to do that more. Because I woke up Saturday morning and I posted two videos. I posted one from Bishop T.D. Jakes

and one from Cardi B. And they both were saying the exact same thing. Just different ways. Just different ways. We did the exact same thing. We need unity in group operation. We need fellowship.

Instead of hating on each other, actually sit around and politic with each other and build with each other and empower each other. And that's what we did on Saturday in Chicago. So salute to them.

And salute to everybody in Newark. I was in Newark yesterday because the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke at Symphony Hall. And that was fun as well. Okay. All right. Well, shout out to our newest member of the Breakfast Club. 105.5 The Beat in Rochester.

Rochester's number one for hip hop and R&B. Welcome to the family, guys. How many markets is that now? 70? It's the rock. 70 what? I think we're over 80. Nah, we're not over 80 yet. I think we guys. How many markets is that now? 70? It's the rock. 70 what? I think we over 80. Nah, we not over 80 yet.

I think we are. You think we over 80? They said that in the panel the other day. They said we was over 80. What panel? The panel we did in D.C. In D.C.

Nabob. I forgot about that. I thought they was just throwing some extra sauce on us. Maybe they was. I don't know. Maybe we are. I don't know.

I don't know. But also, RZA will be joining us as long side mathematics. A lot of mathematics. Listen, I've been listening to that Wu-Tang album all weekend. We got to be real with the people. We interviewed the RZA last week, okay? Okay.

Before the album came out. Okay. So I didn't get a chance to hear the album. But that Wu-Tang album, I'm a Wu-Tang fan, though, so you can't ask me. All right. I'm a grown-ass man who still wants to get a Wu-Tang tattoo. Which is crazy to me. But this is vintage Wu-Tang.

Right. What's your favorite joint on there? Oh, man. I like the joint with Redman and Methman called, I think it's called Hoodbanger or something Just those two?

Well, I mass produced the whole entire album this time around. I want to get on the joint from now. My only one might be good for radio. That's a tough record.

We'll see what we can clean up and we'll get a joint on during the interview, alright? Well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? We'll talk about the airport. There's been airline situations over the

weekend, an airport worker who was stealing and Tamika Mallory, activist, friend to the show, actually got kicked off of a flight. Okay, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with sports. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

Let's get in some front page news. Start off with sports somehow, some way. I don't know how, but the Giants won last night. They got their first win of the season. They are now one in five. They beat the Denver Broncos 23 to 10. Damn, so you back watching football now? I ain't really watching, though.

Colin Kaepernick just filed a grievance against the NFL, and you gonna start watching football again? I ain't really watching. Okay. Well, your team got a bye this week, huh? I definitely would boycott this. You definitely would boycott this week. I definitely would stand it with Kaep this week, 100%.

My goodness. Now, Miami beat Atlanta. Chicago beat Baltimore. Houston beat Cleveland. Minnesota beat Green Bay. Now, Green Bay's quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, he might be out for the rest of the season. Sorry, Q. Now New Orleans beat Detroit 52-38.

They gave up 52 points? That much? New England beat the Jets barely 24-17. Washington beat the 49ers 26-24. Arizona beat Tampa Bay 38-33. The Rams beat the Jaguars 27-17. The Steelers beat the Chiefs 19-13. And San Diego beat Oakland 27-17. The Steelers beat the Chiefs 19-13.

And San Diego beat Oakland 17-16. And then Monday night football. The Colts play the Titans. And speaking of Colin Kaepernick, they did confirm that he did file a grievance. And that is for a collusion. He feels like the NFL has conspired to keep him out because of his national anthem protest. That's the new court filing that they have. Okay.

And the Yankees play the Astros tonight, so we'll see what happens with that. Now, Tamika got kicked off a flight. What happened? Yes, Tamika Mallory, we know her up here. She's always up here on The Breakfast Club doing a lot of great things. I'm going to close the ball for Tamika Mallory. She's a co-chair of the Women's March on Washington, as well as other things. And she basically told the whole story.

She was leaving the Revolt Music Conference, coming back to New York. It was actually Al Sharpton's daughter was getting married. So she was trying to make it to the wedding. She did not, by the way, make it to the wedding. So she went to the kiosk, changed her seat from a middle seat to an aisle seat. And then somehow when she went to the gate, it was changed back to the middle seat. So she went over to the person that was changed back to the middle seat. So she went over to the person that was working

to the agent and she said... What airline? American. And she said why was my seat changed? Why was it changed back to, you know, the middle seat? And she said the agent was very nasty to her so she thought everything was over, got on the plane and that's when the pilot

told her the airline worker had nothing to do with her seat getting changed and that she was disrespectful. Then he said, can you get on this flight? Are you going to be a problem on this flight? And she said, no, I'm not. I'm fine. But I will write my complaint down. And then he looked at her and said, you're going to get yourself a one way ticket off this plane. Now they let her on the flight. She went into her middle seat. No complaints. But then they made an announcement for her to come to the front of the plane, and the pilot pointed at her and said, her off. Wow. So, since

then, American Airlines has reached out and said, our team does not tolerate discrimination of any kind. We take these allegations seriously, and we are in the process of reaching out to our colleagues in Miami, as well as Ms. Mallory, to obtain additional information on what transpired during the boarding process.

Now, she tweeted out, Doesn't matter how much we do and how hard we fight, white men are allowed to treat black women like ish. Other people stand by and watch it happen because it doesn't affect them if I have to fight alone. American Airlines will never get away with this. And the bad part about it is that probably happens all the time when everybody's not Tamika Mallory.

So, I'm sure as soon as they found out that was Tamika Mallory and she put them on blast on Twitter, they was like, oh, let's rectify this. But it's just not fair. They shouldn't be able to decide based on, oh, well, this person works American Airlines and I got to believe them. They probably don't know what happened. He wasn't there. You're just believing somebody that works there.

That's not right. Yeah, the bad part about airlines is as soon as you go there, they got you by the balls. You just realize that on Saturday when I was trying to fly out of Chicago and the flight was supposed to leave at 840. But then it got pushed to 1015. Then 1130 and 1140. They could have just canceled the flight if they wanted to. And then you're just stuck in the airport.

You're really at the mercy of the airline once you get to the airport, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, quickly, the airport worker that got busted for stealing out of bags? Oh, yeah. I mean, they caught him on video. Good. He was going through people's bags and stealing items. And, yeah.

I'll tell you about that time they stole my underwear out of my bag. Y'all not going to say his name? Get that man the respect he deserves. What's his name? His name is Abdullah Hayimaye. Abdullah Hayimaye. He probably stole my underwear that time. Why would somebody steal your underwear?

I don't know. Are you sure? I'm positive. He stole my underwear. Nasty. All right. I bet y'all with Dak could take him away. I do love all he is,

whatever his name is. My goodness. All right. Well, that's front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent,

hit us up right now. Maybe something's bothering you or maybe you just want to spread some positivity. Whatever it may be, call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Get it. Pick up the mother, mother phone and dial. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So you better have the same energy. Get it off your chest.

I just want to say I'm pissed off really crazy at that cop at West Orange High School. I was watching this video over the weekend of this cop taking two twin females, throwing them on the floor, putting his body weight on them, all because they asked him a question. I'll say allegedly because I don't know what happened, but it was disrespectful how that grown-ass man threw them two girls on the floor.

Then the vice principal ran over to help to get him off the girls, and then they locked him up. It's disrespectful. I got to go watch this video, but I don't want to watch this video because it's probably help to get him off the girls, and then they locked him up. It's disrespectful. I got to go watch this video, but I don't want to watch this video because it's probably going to piss me off. The officer's name is, what's his name? Hanifa Davis is his name.

Hanifa Davis. Give him the respect he deserves, okay, for being stupid. And he's got a female name. He's black, right? It was at Orange High School. Yeah, Orange High School. They said he's already been relieved of duty. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you see the video, just imagine having a daughter and a cop throwing her on the floor, a high school student. Like, it's disrespectful, man. And shout to Orange High School. They've been boycotting. The vice principal has been involved. I just, I hate to see stuff like that, especially the kids. You hate to see abuse of power.

Absolutely. Especially from police officers. Absolutely. Hello, who's this? Yes. Hey, get it off your chest. Yeah, I just have too much anxiety in my life. Not happy, no relationship, nothing like that.

Trying to just get the negative stuff out of my chest, you know, keep on myself a long period of time. So, yeah. I watch you guys every morning. I watch you guys every morning. Thank you, man. Thank you, sir. Anxiety is a tough thing to deal with, man, but you can't run from it.

You got to face it. You got to embrace it. Hello, who's this? This is Mike Tucker from the Later Guns Down Foundation out of Brooklyn, New York. And I just want to say thank you to the community for coming out yesterday in support of the Thompson family. That's the pushing robbery that happened in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn. Right, with the older family? Yes. A lot of

people came out yesterday. Did they get any details of what happened or not yet? They still trying. They know who it is. They're just trying to find the individuals. Right, put him under the jail. Put him under the jail. Alright, thank you, bro. No problem. Well, that's good. That means people are talking.

They're not following that stupid ass no snitching room. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up.

This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Augustine from Miami. Augustine, get it off your chest. So when the hurricane came down here in Miami, there was all these companies offering jobs for, you know,

cleaning up process, hurricane relief. And I got one of those jobs. They ask you, you know, can you work these long hours, 80 to 90 hours a week? I said, yes. Sign me up. Boom. Started working. I started training their workers because I was so good at it.

And from one day to the next, they start having these job fairs. They start promoting everywhere. Oh, we're looking for more people. I trained, I'd say, at least 10 people in the past three days. And then the next day they call me in, oh, you're put on a wait list. We don't have enough trucks. We don't have enough, you know, we have enough people. How are you going to do that?

You promised me two to three months and you're hiring people. How are you just going to replace me after I put in 90 hours in one week? Right. You feel used. You feel used? I feel used and abused. You want us to feel sorry for you because you got fired? Yes. I've been fired four times, sir, from radio, seven times in life.

Why should I feel sorry for you? It happens. I tell you, Friday I was training their workers. Saturday I was training their workers. Come Sunday, they tell me that they don't have enough work for me. I don't feel sorry for you. Get back at it, bro. Get back at it. My last firing, Friday, I was interviewing Beanie Siegel.

Saturday, I was doing a live remote from the club. Monday, I was on the radio doing the morning show. Monday afternoon, I was unemployed. What's your point? Sorry, bro. I don't feel sorry for you because you got fired. Keep pushing. I guess that's what you tell them. Hello, who's this?

This is Rhonda. Hey, get it off your chest. I'm pissed off. Why? Because I got arrested on Friday. I'm 43 years old. I've never been arrested before in my life. Congratulations.

No, it's crazy because I've been calling the police on my neighbor, and he's been verbally attacking me, and I'm outside talking to someone across the street from where I live and he jumps in my face. Like, I'm only 4'9". So he called the police on you? I called the police to come and get this dude out my face. He stayed up from Thursday night all the way into Friday

harassing me, walking by my window, telling me he's going to drag me, meet him around the corner to fight him. That's crazy. It's crazy. I have six kids. Two of them just moved out. And I still got four at home.

You ain't got no brothers? No uncles you can call? I do, but you know, I'm not trying to get my family locked up behind some junkie. So how the hell you end up in jail? I told him, get out my face and back up. He came at me again, so I had my keys in my hand, and I clocked him. You got a nice little soul charge. My goodness.

Got to get you a dog, our man. Now she got to get her lawyer now. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now, you got rumors on the way? Yes, it looks like Wendy Williams versus Angie Martinez. And find out how 50 Cent somehow is involved in this equation as well. All right, we'll get into all that when we come back.

Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Back to the work week.

It's a Monday. It is a Monday. Is it the holiday season yet? Can we officially say it's the holiday season? Well, we always say after iHeart, it begins the holiday season. So we can say that. And Halloween decorations are out. People got them on their house and stuff.

It's the holiday season. Yeah, Halloween is what? In two weeks? And then we have Thanksgiving and Christmas. And then we start all over again. I can't wait for Halloween this year, by the way. When are you going to be? I'm not saying.

You'll see on Halloween. Is it a Wu-Tang character? No, but I've had this costume for three months. You know, you've been laying out your clothes on the bed for the first day. So you've had it for three months?

I've had it for three months. I ordered it back in March. You are a kid. And you tried it on. How many times you tried it on? Twice. Make sure I fit right. Let's get to the rumors.

Let's talk Chance the Rapper. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The Rumor Report. Gossip. Gossip.

With Angela Yee. It's the Rumor Report. The Breakfast Club. Well, Chance the Rapper is headlining a concert, and that is for the Obama Foundation. Now, there's an Obama Foundation summit that's happening in Chicago next month, and he did announce that he has teamed with the organization to curate the concert part of it. Here's what he had to say. I'm curating the concert at the end of the Obama Summit this year. As soon as I heard about the summit, I jumped at the opportunity. There's a lot of great things going on in Chicago, and I love the collaborative effort of being able to be at some of these talks and hear what people have going on and figure out how I fit in,

and the fact that the president is jumping ahead on programming before the library even gets built or the center gets built, it's inspiring. Now, do you charge Barack and Michelle at this point? Because they're not in the White House no more, so this is kind of like a party. Yeah, you got to charge me. You got to charge me. You got to give me a little something. Well, it is a foundation, and it's a two-day summit that starts October 31st. And what he's doing is bringing together civic leaders

from Chicago, the U.S., and the world to exchange ideas, explore creative solutions to common problems, and experience art, technology, and music from around the world. You give him a deal, though. You don't charge him what you would normally charge him. Right, you give him a little discount. Yeah, that's all. Or maybe you have him

donate money to a cause like the public school system in Chicago that you champion as well. But I thought it was his event. I thought it was Barack's event. Right, so maybe instead of giving the money to Chance,

you say, well, I want you to, instead of paying me, donate money to this foundation. Nah, I charge them and then I can put the money where I want it. What are they,

I don't know, I'm confused. Aren't they raising money for the charities? Yeah, but if you want to pay somebody, if you're going to pay them anyway, why not ask for that money that they were going to pay you to go towards something that you already give money to? All right. Now, he also did buy out the movie theater for the movie Marshall. I heard that's really good, by the way.

Yeah, so he wants everybody to go see it. It's about one of the most renowned cases that Thurgood Marshall has when he was a Supreme Court Justice. He was the country's first African American Supreme Court Justice. He represented a black man

accused of raping a white woman. So that opened in theaters on Friday. Chadwick Boseman is playing Thurgood Marshall, right? Yes. Chadwick Boseman plays

every black person. How many black people are y'all going to get Chadwick Boseman to play? Well, he is a black man. I'm saying, though, he can't play every, he done played Jackie Robinson,

he done played James Brown, now he playing Thurgood Marshall, he playing't play every... He done played Jackie Robinson. He done played James Brown. Now he playing Thurgood Marshall. He playing the Black Panther. He's a good actor. He's just a great actor. There's more black actors out there. Let him in. All right.

Well, in addition to him buying out the theater and inviting people to come and see the movie, he also showed up to that movie theater for a surprise panel with the whole cast of Marshall. So that's pretty exciting for anybody that actually showed up. Now Barbados is honoring Rihanna. They're giving her her own street. So the Ministry of Tourism

announced that that soon-to-be name change will be happening for all the charity work that she does in Barbados. She is being rewarded for that. They said the government of Barbados will on Independence Day Thursday, November 30th, change the name of Westbury New Road located in St. Michael to Rihanna Drive.

That's big to get a street named after you while you're alive. I was actually having a conversation with somebody about that yesterday, and they were saying the reason they don't really do that is because what if the person gets in trouble? Because when the street is named after you forever, so what if the person gets in trouble while they're alive? I'm sure there's a Cosby way somewhere. I doubt it. I doubt it. You don't think so?

Yeah, let's not just make things up. I'm sure. I'm not saying I'm sure there's one somewhere. Ladies, don't go down that street. All right. Now, 50 Cent versus Wendy Williams. It all started with 50 Cent saying, excuse me if I seem a little insensitive at times.

I'm different. I came up a little harder than these guys. I make no excuses. I never met my father, and my mother got killed when I was eight. And he's a cancer. Right. So he was, I guess,

basically speaking about him having a child support party, and he no longer has to pay child support for Marquise. And Wendy Williams weighed in. Here's what she had to say. At some particular point, though, don't you have to let go

of some of the things that badger you? I don't care that you didn't grow up with a father and that your mom, whatever happened, you know, when you were eight and that you were shot nine times. You're 42. You got a 21 year old son. Get get your life. I do not want to hear Wendy go in detail about nothing until she goes in detail about her husband's alleged infidelities.

I cannot stand the fact that she will break down everybody else's dirt, but won't break down her own. She just brushes past her own dirt. Well, 50 Cent feels the same way. He put up that picture of Wendy in a bikini on the beach and said, Wendy Williams just told me to get my life together, SMH. Your husband is not a bad man. He deserves a side chick for talking to you, you ugly MF-er. Focus on your own ish, bitch. Oh, yeah, we in club last night.

You're invited, LOL. Then he posted a picture of her next to the Beast from Beauty and the Beast and said, Yeah, bitch, you effing around in the wrong section every time you call me. I'm going to show up. Now, other reports are saying that Wendy Williams does feel threatened, and that's because of our girl Angie Martinez. Drop on the clues bomb for Angie Martinez, damn it. Yes, Angie Martinez is supposedly going to be doing her own talk show, so congratulations to Wendy, I mean to Angie, but apparently Wendy is not too happy about

it, because that's somebody that she's I guess doesn't get along with. They've had their own issues as detailed in Angie Martinez's book. Well, Angie's doing it with the same company that does Mercury. Yes, so that story was posted on Baller Alert, and 50 Cent left a comment and said, shout out to the

talk of New York Angie Martinez. Please go on TV so we don't have to look at this dog-faced bitch no more. That is supposed to only be on radio. We ain't supposed to have to look at ish like this. Oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure that's a true story because Deadball Mercury wanted to do something with me at one point, and Kevin and Wendy did the same exact thing. Went to them barking and yelling and screaming and hating.

Really? Yeah, saying, don't you dare. That's not barking and yelling and screaming and hating. Really? Yeah, saying, don't you dare. That's not nice. Bring him into the fold. Oh, well, I mean, what could, you know, what could she do anyway?

Leave her TV deal? I don't know. That's not nice. But I'm just saying that story sounds awfully familiar because the same exact thing happened to me.

So, drop on the clues bombs for Angie Martinez. I can't wait to see Angie's talk show. I'm sorry, I thought we were supposed to help our own. I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. Our own, our own people. People that look like us. Angie do not look like Wendy Williams.

No, not like that. As my girl Angela Rye says, all your skin folk ain't your kin folk. Okay. Alright. Now when we come back, we got some special guests joining us. We have RZA. The RZA Recta. The ruler Zig-Zag Zig-A-Lah.

And Alah Mathematics. And Mathematics. Produced a whole entire Wu-Tang album that's out now. Yes, it's called The Saga Continues. You should go get it if you haven't got it yet. Long-time producer for Wu-Tang and also DJ for Wu-Tang. So we'll kick it with both of them when we come back. Don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Clubs. We got some special guests in the building. First and foremost, Ariza.

The ruler zigzag zig-a-la. And I know him as the DJ for the Wu-Tang Clan. A lot of mathematics. That's right, in the building. I never met him. This guy, you always see his name on production credits throughout the years. Mathematics, good to meet you, my brother. Same here, pleasure.

Now, Ariza, are you doing any production on the Wu-Tang album, the new one that's coming out? On this new album, Wu-Tang the Soccer Continues, all produced by A La Mathematics. Why'd you decide to take a back seat on this one, Rizzo? Yo, A La Math's talent has been great for years, but I think he really got it perfected, and for me, it was like a pleasure to hear

that that sound could be generated by somebody else in our crew. And that's why Sasaka continues, you know what I mean? So I'm the executive producer. I ain't got to press those buttons right now. I let a lot of math press the buttons, you know what I mean? I just come in at the end and just give a little shapey shape on it. How hard was that for you? Because you're such a hands-on person from the beginning to just let somebody say, here.

Yeah, you know, I'm growing up. I'm a man now. I'm not as attached as I was in the past. Also, I guess sometimes when you're doing something you feel nobody else could do it. You always say, hold on, let me do it. Let me show you. Then when you see somebody can do it,

you got to let that go. I think for any MC out there who's doing what you're doing, I think it's time for y'all to call a lot of math and get one of his tracks. Because, yo, he got five more other fire joints he played that ain't on the album. So for math, for you, I'm sure you keep in contact with everybody because you also DJ for everyone. How difficult was it for you to get everybody's verses? Because I know the guys are all over the place.

It wasn't that hard. It's like, for me, it was just like just like, you know, coming through with the music. So when I came through with the music and brothers heard it, they was attracted. So that's the whole thing. You want to bring them in. Somebody else hears somebody else's verse and be like, wait, hold on. I got to top that right there. Were any of those verses older verses or they were all new verses?

Nah, new verses. Mef said some of them were older. He said that's why they got the vintage sound. I ain't going to say they was older, but it is. I've been working on a project for a while. When I get the Versus, I'm not dealing with the joint. So I'm still adding, building on it as far as like, you know, making sure the production is right, making sure, you know, everything mesh.

So like Meth is one of the first dudes because I'm on the road with Meth. So he was one of the first dudes that was on it. He was already hopping on everything early. So party started doing his verses and what team 15 and why red man I see red man on a couple of tracks well I'm on the road with me from red all the time and you know red is you know that's Wu Tang cousin and it's like you know me red is mad tight too so it's like red was seen a progression as well so red you know like I when I asked him to get on the first one, and he heard it, he was all in.

Red was like, no doubt. Yeah, he was all in. So then when he heard the second one, like, you know, because he got on a couple of tracks, you know what I mean? And that was just out of, you know, being on the road, hearing what I was working on. And he's a brother, too. You know, I play stuff for him too

like yo how you like this right yeah yeah let me get your opinion and he's like yo hold up so you know yeah

now really you always allow your producers to get their credit because you always hear stories about super producers having ghost producers

and they be taking credit for their beats you've never done that with mathematics or true there's true disciple true master and fourth disciple

fourth disciple I combined them two true master and fourth disciple you've never done that with mathematics or true, there's true disciple. True master and fourth disciple. Fourth disciple. I combined them two. True disciple and fourth disciple. You've never done that. You know, it's so crazy. First of all, on this,

on this album, you know, math was like on some of the, some, some of the music, you know, he felt I helped inspired it. Right.

And he was like, you know, you want to get a Coke production credit on it. I was like, nah, why would I, you know, he did it, yo, he lived it out. I'm not, I don't need, you know, nobody else merits for my co-production credit on it. I was like, nah, why would I, you know? He did it, yo.

He lived it out. I don't need, you know, nobody else's merits for my merits, you know what I mean? And I think when a man's talent is where it's at, you know, he should be given that chance, given that opportunity. I'm not that kind of guy. I heard those stories, too. I don't know how many of those stories is real. I like to believe those stories ain't real.

You know what I mean? I like to believe that the producer did what he did you know what i'm saying but you're not going to find a joint that i that says rZA that wasn't done by me you're not gonna find that you know i mean well who created the Wu-Tang sound this could be a stupid question but who created the Wu-Tang sound i'm saying yo i'm the founder of that you know i mean so you know Wu-Tang has a temple that's thousands of years old in China. You know what I mean? But for the Western civilization, you know, I'm the abbot. You know what I mean?

The spirit of that entered me, you know what I mean, to do what I had to do. You know what I mean? And I took that, you know, even against the eyes of my homies. You know, there's other people that was like, man, with that kung fu, we black. Right, right, right. But for me, I saw the universal language that it was trying to say.

You know what I mean? The Wu is the way. You know what I mean? And having mathematics in my consciousness, W is for wisdom. U is for universe. And the wisdom of the universe, it got to expand. So not doing that egotistically, but I'm the founder Of that right here In the western hemisphere When I went back to China To the abbot

Of Wu-Tang Mountain He was like History already knows you And you are the abbot And he was a musician The abbot of the Chinese Wu-Tang Temple Is also a musician

But he He don't sell his music He just gives it to people Wow You know what I mean Now before Wu-Tang You were Prince Rakim. Yeah. Right? So, that transition,

were you like, okay, this is just not me at all? Was that like a label trying to make you be something that was, at that time, Big Daddy Kane-ish? Well, at that time, you know, I was already Wu-Tang. Then also, if you look at, like, on my single, it says the Wu-Tang mix,

and most of the Wu-Tang members was down with a crew called DMD, which is called Come Down. You know what I mean? And those were the crews I was hanging with between Stapleton and Park Hill. But Prince Rakim is my attribute. You know what I mean? My name is Divine Prince Master Rakim Zig-Zag Zigalaw. And so Prince Rakim was my attribute. So I'm always going to be proud of that.

But as far as the music or the choice of releases that was chosen by the label I think that I made the music so nothing against it but I think that Monica the president at the time she saw me in competition with Will Smith and I think you know

I was kind of aggressive inside but if you clean me up I could be a nice guy you know what I mean be a nice guy. You know what I mean? Fresh Prince type of guy, whatever. I think she thought that was the way to go with me. That's why they had the girls on the hook. We love you, right?

They was loving me a little bit, but I wasn't, you know, I was more of a. You wasn't happy about it. Yeah, I was more of a, like I wasn't a girlfriend guy. You know what I mean? If I catch you Friday, you pop it off, I'm just keeping it moving. You know what I mean? The one night stands type of energy.

That was more of my energy. You know what I mean? Mathematics, you created the Wu-Tang logo? Yeah. Yeah, that's a dope shirt too. I got a lot of Wu-Tang Pat familiar.

Thank you for the wallet. RZA came in here with gifts. I know, I'm excited. How'd you come up with the logo? What was, how do you think of that one? The actual logo

actually came just one night. A guy called me, was like, yo, I'm getting these joints printed up tomorrow. I need a logo tomorrow. So I was like, word, tomorrow? So I came home from work. I was like, all right. I sat on the floor, on the living room floor, and just started, came up, came up with what I came up with. So I just remember, you know know we discussed a few things you know

I mean that's my added in and all that but yeah, and then um who's the first person you showed it to RZA? Yeah, okay, they came up to the job him ghost power and divine I remember all of them looking at it like this past like this is it And it was this right here this W. Yeah Wow All of the Wu Tang merchandise we see see in Target and everywhere, who gets the money for that, though? That goes to the company. I mean, a lot of math there, Joy, but how much I paid you for that back then?

What was it? 400 bucks? Something like that. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. At the time, that was half my rent money. You know what I mean? And so, I mean, he, Joy, but it was a pay-for-service, you know what I mean? So it's I mean, he enjoyed it, but, you know, it was a pay for service. You know what I mean?

So it's owned by the company. I own the company. So the majority of it goes to the company. All the licenses and everything. Wow. So y'all are rich forever off a logo. Yeah. Mathematics, you want to renegotiate?

I got a percentage, so, you know what I mean? The Nike guy did the Nike logo for $250. Wow, that's swish. All right, we got more with the RZA and Mathematics when we come back, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. RZA and Mathematics from Wu-Tang are in the building. The album you did for Martin Scurlley, are we ever going to get that album? It's an 88-year. Wait, well, they said he put it on eBay. He put it up on eBay, he said.

I don't know. I saw the highest bid was like $1.1 million. There's a lot of legal things that go with that. I don't know exactly. There's a lot of things that I can't even disclose, but there's a lot of legal things that go with that. I don't know exactly. You know, there's a lot of things that, you know, I can't even disclose all of it. But there's a lot of legal parameters around that record. But what he did do, though, I got to just say this, the idea was to bring value back to music.

You know what I mean? And, you know, I disagree when people was buying headphones for $600 but won't pay a dollar for the music that's going to go in the headphones. And so also disagreed that we was devaluing music from not even being represented as art. And so the idea was to say, you know what, let's put it in an art gallery. Let's make music become a living piece like a Mona Lisa or a scepter from Egypt. And that's what that record was.

And it was auctioned off. And the crazy thing is that it's auctioned off and he bought it you know he's the guy who who put his money where his mouth is it was other billionaire dudes that was uh talking about they was gonna buy it was gonna buy it or they read the book the once upon a time in shatlin yeah so so the crazy thing is that now he pits it out and auctions it off and it's funny that you know't know what was going to happen. I was like, wow, why would he do that? But I'm glad to see that it got up to a million dollars because that means

that other people see the value. To me, that's the beauty of it all, you know what I mean? Did you feel back then his energy wasn't right though? When I met him? Yeah, yeah. When I met him, you know, he came in, he had his homies with him, two other dudes that had a deal with me

All, all You know, pretty preppy People, you know what I mean? And And we was at the Soho house I know he said I came in like I'm God

You know That's what I'm saying He started being disrespectful After the fact He was saying He was gonna put hands on goals Put hands on you I don't know

I don't know who he was I mean, I came in I'm me He seemed like a You know, he had a story That I could relate to His parents came in As immigrants'm me. He seemed like a, you know, he had a story that I could relate to. Parents came in as immigrants from Albania.

They worked out at Sheepshed Bay. My aunt lives in Sheepshed Bay. You know what I mean? Go to Coney Island, the sweet floors, whatever. You know what I mean? And then he makes it through the Bronx High School of Science. I tried to go to the Bronx High School of Science. You know what I mean?

So he had a story that I was like, wow, okay. And he loved, you know, some of the lyrics has inspired him. You know what i mean so he had he had a story that i was like wow okay and he loved you know we said some of who lyrics has inspired him you know what i mean uh and 50. he said you know even he actually he said you know i love wu-tang 50 is my favorite you know i mean i said all right well you know hip-hop and i said this thing to me is important to me like a child you know i mean you know are you going to to respect and take care of it? He said, yeah. And so we made that deal. And then I think maybe like three months later, I'm home with my wife. I'm watching Bill Maher

and it says scumbag. And it's like, oh, wait, that's the guy that I made the deal with about a record. And then it goes on about him hiking the pills up.

Right. And then from there, but it was already, it was already engaged. You already had sold it. Yeah, it was already, you know, the contract was being drafted up

and all that. But he paid it full. It was checked in balance. Checked in balance. That's all it meant. Is that how many good? I'm saying, I mean, is it good?

Like, is it, you kind of critical of a better tomorrow. Uh-huh. Like, what kind of sound was it? Is it more like the soccer continues, more better tomorrow?

Was it vintage Wu? More like Wu-Tang forever. Hmm. Now, Matt, for you, I remember we had a conversation about Eminem. Right. More like the soccer continues, more Better Tomorrow. Was it Vintage Woo? More like Wu-Tang Forever. Now, Matt, for you, I remember we had a conversation about Eminem. Right. And you guys actually, Eminem came and performed at Park Hill Day one year. This was before he was signed, before anybody really knew who he was. He was just doing lyricist lounge and freestyling.

And you were like, man, we had a chance, an opportunity to sign Eminem. Yeah, he came to Paul Kill, right? That was what, 90? What year was that? Was that 97? It might have been like 97. Yeah, something like that. Well, I'll tell you one thing.

His freestyle on Trump, did he go in? Yeah, he went in. It was decent. Charlamagne said it's mediocre. I like the messaging of it. The message was bigger Than the actual bars How about the expression In the bars too though

He sold it He sold it Yeah yeah I think coming from A white brother Cause if we do it We complaining Right

Yeah I like seeing white people Use their privilege To combat prejudice So I give them All the props for that Yeah exactly That's what you want

You know what I mean I wanna see What they gonna say now. If I would have said it, they'd be like, oh. It's just little things that bother me after the fact when I see Keith Oldman say, I haven't listened to hip hop in 27 years.

I didn't even like rap until last night. I'm like, that's kind of a slap in the face a little bit. That's not Eminem's fault. I know. Yeah. You know what, Keith? I know you're going to have to rate my movies.

I think he might have gave me a D on one of my movies. Wow. Which movie? Iron Fist. It was a Keith. I don't know who. I ain't going to find with some writer that gave me a D, right? Yeah, I was so pissed off.

Have you been watching all this stuff with Harvey Weinstein too? And now all these women coming forward and people are saying in Hollywood, that's just what it is. I don't know if that's just what it is. I mean, like, you know, I don't think that's just what it is. I mean, I've never been in a situation that I say this. I think like some people have a natural ability to attract the opposite sex, whether they got money or not. Right. And some people need money and power to do it.

And if you can't do it without your own natural qualities, you're going to try to use anything else you have to do. You're going to use that position of power. Absolutely. And men for years have done that. You know what I mean? And I'm blessed not to have to be a man like that. You know what I mean? And I'm blessed not to have to be a man like that. You know what I mean? But a lot of men who have that, I guess it's a different, it's impotency.

Okay. Whatever. Impotent, that means you don't want to get hurt. Right. So they're impotent in a different way. Oh, got you, got you, got you. They don't have the natural ability ability so they use what they got. Look, for me,

for me and Harvey Weinstein, he's actually the man that started my film career. You know what I mean? So I'm in debt to him as a professional. And I never got a chance to see him do the things that he's done. He never tried you. How you gonna try me?

What are you talking about? How do you like me? Somebody tried Terry Crews. He's done. He never tried you. How are you going to try me? What are you talking about? How are you like... You know what I mean? Somebody tried Terry Crews. He said it wasn't Harvey. He said it was somebody. Somebody tried Terry Crews? Yeah. But it was his wife.

He said it was his wife. Yeah, Terry said a Hollywood exec walked up to him and grabbed him. Oh! Yo, I got to say, my energy don't... you know what I mean? I got to try to get the kind of energy. All right, we got more with RZA and Mathematics when we come back.

Let's get into a new joint off the album. It's called People Say. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. That was People Say, a new Wu-Tang joint off the album. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club.

We have RZA and Mathematics in the building. So RZA, you got a new movie coming out? All good. Because we saw the trailer. And obviously, Azealia Banks is the star of that movie. But that relationship went left. She thought that you were supposed to manage her, sign her, whatever. You were signing her?

I was helping to get her music career started as well. I mean, she got a music career. I was co-signing her. Yeah, it was a record deal on the table for her, yeah. So you didn't anticipate, you didn't see any signs that things were perhaps not going to work out because she definitely had a history.

Well, you know what? I heard about her history, but when she came to work for me, y'all, I'm serious. She did her job every day. She showed up. If I was like, put this on, fall on the bed, cry. That's not like Harvey Weinstein. That's funny.

Funny, but I was paying, huh? No, but, no, no, no. She really, she's a natural talent, yo. And so I never got a chance to see any of the other rumors that I heard and we just had a I think we just had a bad night usually a bad night

look bad nights happen I ain't gonna front there's always a party you can go to and it's usually real private we're in a world now that when something happens it explodes so if that would have been something that happened and stayed in the room, it would have just been something that happened, stayed in the room,

and we'd have moved on. But it got out the room. You know what I mean? But it takes nothing away from the great talent that she is or the talent that she delivered in this film. She delivered, y'all. And I don't care. I was very angry at a point, But I can't be angry At her talent

You know what I mean Because she delivered Why were you angry Why were you Because you felt like She was like Just disparaging your character Yeah I just felt

I felt like yo Yo we was You know you had a party You had everybody partying A lot of things Going to happen in the party Kid You know what I mean

Look I mean If you turn the lights on We start drinking over there And it's You know what I mean Somebody going Somebody going to the zone. Did Russell put hands on her, though?

Or spit on her, like she said? Look, he spit at her. It almost got on me. I'm like, yo. Did you check him in that point, though? He has a white dude spitting at a black woman. You had to check him. You had to say it.

Yeah, he apologized to me. You know what I mean? He said, you know, but the night was crazy, bro. I don't want to relive it. It was crazy. And it was super duper awkward. I'm telling you. One day, I'll make a scene in a movie about it one day.

You know what I mean? You'll see it, then you'll go, oh, that might be that night right there. Imagine if when you guys were coming up, there was all kinds of social media and cameras, and you guys wouldn't have been able to do anything. Yeah. I mean, look, when you got alcohol, you know what I mean, marijuana, any other substance in the room with people, and you got, you know, everybody partying for hours,

something's going to crack off, you know what I mean, one way or another. You know what I mean? So that's just life, yo. And if it gets out of hand, like ODB, right? He'll actually raise it up to that level. Everybody ready to fight. Guns will come out. And he'll kiss you right on the nose.

And nullify the whole thing. That night, the kiss didn't happen. I'll just say that. A kiss would have ended it all. You know what I mean? Would have calmed it all back down. Is it hard to promote this movie, though, without the lead character promoting the movie? Well, she, no, I mean, yeah, in a way, of course.

But, look, Azalea, she has to love what she did in this movie. Right. I'm serious. And I think that when people see what she does, I think they're going to have a new respect for her because we all know she's talented, but the warmth of her character, you know what I mean? She really plays,

the movie, I'm going to say something about it. I was told when I got this script, I didn't write it. They told me that this has to be PG-13. Now you're telling me to do a PG-13. And they didn't think that I could do it. You know what I mean?

It was other directors up for the job. You know what I mean? It was other directors up for the job. You know what I mean? And they chose me. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to make this a very warm story. You know what I mean? I went and watched Flashdance. That's my movie. Okay.

That is my movie. I love that movie. Look, I watched that right there. I was like, I want to kind of like see if I could bring an energy like that to our film. You know what I mean? And I watched some Disney joints. And so I had to put her into that world like that. You know what I mean?

And she fell right into it, y'all. You can see that, Shirley. You can tell that she does a great. I was like, okay. She's super talented. It's interesting. Every conversation I have with Hollywood producers and stuff, everybody wants to do a Wu-Tang biopic.

But they just can't figure it out for whatever reason. It's a lot of people that have to be involved. Yeah, there's so many people involved, but they just can't figure out the story, so to speak. Well, we're going to work on that. That would be a great culmination of our history, of our dedication to music and hip-hop and culture. So we working on it hard.

Me and Meth actually had a meeting recently that was really, really cool. And he's on board to help put some energy towards that. And I think with me and him starting that fire, I'm sure that other brothers will come and put a log on that fire so it turns into a blade. So very positive, very positive. I don't want to jinx it.

You know, some people would, yo, I got this, I got... I don't do that kind of stuff. Yeah. Right. But we definitely had a great meeting about it. This is my final question.

Have any Asians ever accused y'all of cultural appropriation? Because we always have, everybody always have these cultural appropriation conversations. They're a Chinese rap group that's like Wu-Tang

is culturally appropriating. Nah, that never happened. I had a Chinese rap group that's like Wu-Tang is culturally appropriating? Nah, that never happened. I had a great conversation with Jeff Chang from the West Coast who actually deals with that. And he actually appreciates

that Wu-Tang has been part of promoting Asian culture to the world and to America. It's authentic too. It's authentic, too. It's not like you guys are trying to steal from the culture. You guys really came up going to 42nd Street and watching the culture movie.

And studying the philosophy. America, America, America, America. This is a country, yo, of diverse people. This is why this microphone exists. This light exists because, yeah, Con Edison had a black brother. What's my brother's name? Louis Latimer.

Yeah, yeah. Who sounds like he could have been half French. You know what I mean? It takes all the diverse cultures to make America. And then for us to be able to include the Asian energy into hip-hop, it was already being included in the small break. Break dancers will watch kung fu movies and get break dancing.

Right. I remember, think about it, Grandmaster Flash. That's still a grandmaster. I don't know if he got it from seven grandmasters. But, you know, the idea, you know, we all are. That's why I love that show, The Deuce. It's giving us a taste of some of the things that inspired hip-hop culture. So I think that

they appreciate what Wu-Tang do. And there's actually there was a Nike commercial for Asia where they to me it's one of the greatest things where there's a group of young Asian men doing Wu-Tang lyrics. I think that's so cool, y'all.

Dope. Well, we appreciate you, y'all. Dope. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Mathematics RZA. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Harvey Weinstein. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Well, Harvey Weinstein's own brother is saying that he was also a victim of abuse by Harvey Weinstein. He said, I was also the object of a lot of his verbal abuse at one time, physical abuse, and I'm not looking for one bit of sympathy from anyone. He said, I do not put myself in the category at all of those women that he hurt, but it's a complicated situation when it's your brother doing the abusing to you as well. I saw it and I asked him to get help for many years and that's the truth. He avoided getting the help and we begged him. Now he said that he had not barely

spoken to his brother in the past five years. He said he wasn't aware of his brother's alleged sexual misconduct. Instead, he thought that he was just having all kinds of adultery with one woman after another. Now, Bob, you could have kept that to yourself. There's levels to this abuse thing. If you're not going to tell us Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted you as well, then you could have kept that to yourself. And he also said it's not true that they're trying to shut down the company or sell the company.

He said business is continuing as usual as the company moves ahead. So for anybody that thought that they were selling the company, that's not happening. Now, an intern. A little early, Bob. Just wait a little bit, OK? It's only been a week. A former intern that worked with Harvey Weinstein back in the 80s says that that sexual assault dated back to then. Paula Wachowiak told the Buffalo News, she's 62 years old now,

that Weinstein exposed himself to her inside a hotel room and asked her, was seeing me naked the highlight of your internship? Now, she said she was told to bring a bunch of checks to his hotel room to get them signed. She said, when I got in the room, I realized he was holding a hand towel around his waist. He dropped the towel to grab the folder full of checks and sat on the bed with the folder over his groin and pointed to checks and asked me why were we paying for this or that and then asked her for a massage saying that he had a sore shoulder. Now Angie Everhart who is a model and an actress had this to say about her experience with Harvey Weinstein. I was at the

Cannes Film Festival. I was on a friend's boat. Harvey walked in, walked in front of me, took his pants down, did his thing, said, you're a really nice girl. Don't tell anybody about this and left. It was a lot longer than that. And I, you know, he was blocking the door. I couldn't get out. I was in the bed sleeping when I woke up to him above me. What do you mean did his thing like masturbated?

Yes. He was pleasuring himself and blocking the door. Now, she said that he told her not to tell anyone, but she said, I told everyone. She told other actors, producers, anybody who would listen. And all they said was, oh, that's just Harvey. All right. And then in addition to that, there was a rumor, according to Harvey Weinstein, that Oprah was trying to get him to come out and she wanted to publicly support him. But Oprah's people are saying it's just not true.

Now, Harvey Weinstein has repeatedly been telling people that Oprah called him and said he needed to speak out and defend himself, and when he did, she would be right there. But according to Oprah's spokesperson, Oprah has not spoken to Harvey Weinstein directly. Someone from his team reached out to her to see if she would talk to him, and she said she would if it was for an interview. There's no plans for an interview at this time.

That don't sound like a Super Soul conversation to me. Not at all. Well, you know, she does 60 Minutes. Oh, okay. So it could have been on 60 Minutes as well. That would make sense, right? I wasn't in the Super Soul conversation this morning. Now, the Food Network's Sunny Anderson, in the meantime, was in some hot water.

And that is because of some things that she said on Twitter. Now, she talked about the numerous women who are coming forward to talk about Harvey Weinstein and their allegations against him. She said, when I reported my first radio boss for sexual harassment, I felt brave. The four co-workers that came out after me were not brave to me at all. In fact, I blame them and still do for not being brave and reporting him before he had a chance to make one more victim. So she said, so all these women come out of the woodwork, ask yourself,

were they complicit in their silence, complicit when taking payoffs? Now, everybody went in on her after she put these tweets out. She said, I've deleted my obviously polarizing and offensive statement as a victim and warrior against sexual harassment in the workplace. I apologize. Well, it takes one, right? Like, it takes one person to show that bravery, and then it gives everybody else the strength to come out, too.

So Sonny should look at herself as a person who, you know, started a wave and gave everybody else the strength to come out. I never understand how somebody can be mad about her feelings. She's been harassed before, and this is the way she feels about people. But she's calling the other people who are victims weak and saying that it's their fault for not coming out, and she's blaming them for that. are victims weak and saying that it's their fault for not coming out. And she's blaming them for that. And you can't say that the victim, you blame the person who abused someone, not the victim.

You don't know how people process when something happens to them. Absolutely, Sonny. That's the only way. But if I was Sonny, I'd be happy that other women came out after me because then it doesn't make you look like a liar. Because it's easy to paint one person as a liar. It's hard to paint several women as a liar. But I guess she's looking at it like if they would have came out, maybe I wouldn't have been harassed.

Maybe she's looking at it from that side. And let's be clear, you hear these other stories of women who did come out, like Angie Everhart said she told everyone. And nobody believed her.

And no one believed her. So, of course, it's hard for people to come out when things like that happen. Now, Gabrielle Union went on Twitter and said sexual violence and harassment can happen

to anyone at any time, anywhere. People remain silent for many different, very personal reasons. Judgment, victim shaming, blaming, lots of job, anywhere. People remain silent for many different, very personal reasons. Judgment, victim shaming, blaming, loss of job, money, fear of violence, retaliation. Folks are also very open and obvious about what kind of victims should be prioritized and believed. To think otherwise is to be willfully dim in Hollywood meetings and homes, hotel lobbies, restaurants, suites, private, isolated office space is the norm.

No one asked for it. Sexual or physical violence, harassment, demeaning language is not the price one should pay for seeking or maintaining employment, period. And then she said, Reminder, I got raped at work at a Payless shoe store. I had on a long tunic and leggings, so miss me with that dress modestly-ish. Though I was raped by a stranger who raped me at gunpoint

after robbing the store, I was still asked by a female friend what I had worn. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, female friend what I had worn. Mm-mm. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Reports. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Charlemagne. Yes, sir. Can you give an answer to Don Couture?

Man, this is a cowardly lion named Hanifa Davis. He is the police officer in West Orange, New Jersey. Oh, you seen it. You seen that video. I didn't see the video. I thought it was in orange.

I saw the still shots. I saw the still shots. I refuse to watch the video. You gotta watch the video. Because I don't like things that give me anxiety. But Anifa Davis needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with his lame ass. You should watch it.

No. I saw the screenshots. That's all I need. All right. We'll get into that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on in.

Charlamagne. Say the gang. Don't get out of shape. Charlamagne. You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day.

So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit it with the heat. It's a breakfast club, bitches. Who's donkey of the day today? Yes, donkey of the day for Monday, October 16th goes to a New Jersey police officer named Hanifa Davis. Now, a video was posted on worldstarhiphop.com over the weekend that shows a police officer named Hanifa Davis forcibly detaining two twin sisters, Kaya and Niaja Sorrells, and then manhandling Principal Muhammad Abdelaziz. Abdelaziz, who tried to intervene. My brother Muhammad, apologies for butchering your last name,

but I do want to salute you because you are a true hero, sir. Drop one of the clues bombs for Muhammad, damn it. All right? Not too many people intervene when it comes to police officers brutalizing citizens, and you did so, so salute to you. You are a warrior. Now, back to this coward, Hanifa Davis. I just knew when Envy told me about this video this morning

that it was a white police officer manhandling two black queens from Orange, New Jersey. I feel bad that I have been conditioned to think that way, but that's where my mind went. We have seen that on videos before, white cops manhandling sisters. So when I heard about the story this morning, that's immediately what I thought. I was saddened and deeply disappointed when I found out that the cop in question, Anifa Davis, was a black man. He black, right?

He looked black to me. Okay. Now, we always say we need more black people in law enforcement. The reason we need more black cops is because they understand the neighborhood. They understand the community better. They will deal with black people better simply because they are black. But this lame-ass, so-called man, Hanifa Davis, clearly didn't get

the memo on why we need more black cops. Now, before I go off on a tangent, let's get more details of this situation, courtesy of ABC7 New York. Fellow students walked out of Orange High School to protest what they say was excessive force. The video raises a lot of questions. First, why are the girls being held down in the first place? Since cops say there was no report of a fight or incident before this happened. Also, why did the officer yank one of the girls to the ground by pulling on her hair? The cop in the troubling video has been identified as Hanif Davis,

who's been on the Orange Police Force for just three and a half months. The girls in the video are 17-year-old twins Kai Asia and Nyasia Soro. The school's principal even tried to intervene on behalf of the girls and ended up being put in a headlock. The incident led to Davis's suspension and the police department is taking a close look at why a school administrator was poorly treated. And the administrator that you saw in the video was given a ticket but not arrested. As for the girls, they face charges in juvenile court. Now to add insult to injury, yes they do face charges in juvenile court. They've been add insult to injury, yes, they do face charges in juvenile court.

They've been charged with aggravated assault, obstruction of justice, and three other charges. How? How? I don't know. Now, I am the father of two daughters, and there is no way as a father I am sitting back watching anybody put their hands on my seeds. Police officers out there, you know, that can hear me. Seriously. Seriously, think about this. Do you understand the position you put me in as a man when you put your hands

on my kids? Especially my daughters. How do you expect me just to sit back and watch that happen? I couldn't sit back and watch that happen if it wasn't my kids.

That's why I have to salute the principal, Mohammed Abdelaziz. I know I'm butchering your name. You're definitely butchering his name, bro. But I have to salute you so much because he could have easily

turned a blind eye like so many people do in that situation. But he, Muhammad, probably has daughters and nieces or sisters, aunts, a mother, I'm sure, a wife maybe. I'm sure he has some type of woman in his life that he cares about, and he knows that could easily be the woman he loves on that ground, being manhandled by those cops. And this is what I don't understand about you, Hanifa Davis. You don't have any women in your life that you love? Do you have daughters?

Sisters? A wife? Aunts? I know you got a mother. What would you do if any man, cop or not, was manhandling your mother the way you manhandled Kyaesha and Ny'Asia Sorrells? Well, Hanifa Davis has been suspended, but he needed to be fired, and he should never work for any police department ever again,

and he needs to be disfellowshipped from the black community. You know how Jehovah Witnesses disfellowship their members when they violate codes of conduct? That's what we have to do to this brother. Disfellowship him. Okay? Nobody speak to him anymore. He not one of us. He should be ostracized from the black community.

Anifa Davis, you're supposed to be one of the cops, right? That helps change the narrative about the police. We want more black cops that help strengthen the relationship between cops and police. We need more black cops and law enforcement to show the white cops who may not know how to interact with us how to interact with us. What's the point of being in that position if you're going to act just like them? Huh? Hanifa Davis,

you're a disfellowship from the black community. I pray that your family doesn't invite you to Thanksgiving dinner this year. Okay? You don't deserve no turkey, no stuffing, no mac and cheese. You don't eat nothing. No ribs, no rice, no year. Okay, you don't deserve no turkey, no stuffing, no mac and cheese. You don't eat nothing. No ribs, no rice, no champagne, okay? I pray Hanif Davis

that every time you go to Starbucks, they write coward or sellout on your latte. A sucker. You should wake up this morning

and every morning for the rest of your life ashamed and embarrassed for what you did to them little girls. Please give Hanif Davis the biggest hee-haw, please. So damn disrespectful.

I mean, come on, man. We need more of us in law enforcement just to show the ones that don't know how to treat us how to treat us. How to treat us, exactly. What kind of example are you setting, Hanifa Davis? Imagine the trauma for those young ladies now when they see cops. Come on, man. And they got charged with assault and obstruction of justice? Those charges

should be dropped. They should be dropped. How? They should be dropped. But like you said, just imagine that those girls' father. Come on, man.

Now you're going to put me in a bad predicament because you put hands on my baby girls and I got to put hands on you. Come on, man. And you are the law, so if I put hands on you,

I'm going to catch a charge. Now I'm assaulting a cop. Exactly. But guess what? It's worth it. It's worth it. You got to. Come on.

In that situation? Come on. And there's not a cop out there who would allow that to It's worth it. You got to. Come on. In that situation? And there's not a cop out there who would allow that to happen to their kids. So why would you do it to somebody else's kids? Stop it. Stop that girl by her hair. F is wrong with you. Well, thank you for that donkey today. When we come back, shoot your shot.

We open up the phone lines and allow somebody to try to holler at somebody maybe they work with, maybe an ex or maybe somebody they're feeling and we'll help you out. We'll do it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Are you ready?

It's time to shoot your shot. Time to shoot your shot. With The Breakfast Club. You lose your one chance. Don't mess it up. Mess it up. Mess it up. Mess it up. Morning.

We got Olivia on the line. Good morning, Olivia. Good morning. All right. It's shooting your shot. Who you shooting your shot with, mama? I'm shooting my shot with Kev. All right.

Who's Kev? Okay. So one of my best friends, her name is Cass. And Kev is her dude. So I'm shooting my shot with my friend's dude. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is it a threesome?

That doesn't sound like a good friend. You want to join in, or you just want to take her man? Well, okay. So, I mean, I do want to take her man, and I am going to take her man. But it has been because of a threesome. Like, they have been inviting me to. That's why you can't be having threesomes. Now, listen, explain this to me, boo.

Y'all had a threesome together, and you loved his penis. Yes, multiple times. So why don't you just continue to have threesomes? Why you got to get the whole man? You already got the milk. Why you want to buy the cow, too? So, wait, the girlfriend is your friend? Yes.

You don't think that's... She is. Not something that a friend would do? I mean, listen, she can't do what I do. I think the call you should be making is that you just want to have more threesomes. I don't think you should actually try to have this man to yourself. No.

We have a connection. Have y'all communicated outside of sex? Like, do y'all talk outside of sex? We have. This is the problem. This is why when you have threesomes with your man, you can't have him talking to the other woman.

The only time you talk to her is when you're putting on a condom to put your penis inside of her, and you should keep that to a minimum. But you can't help you

who you connect with, though. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. What are you talking about? This is foul. Wow, well, okay, well. I don't know if I could co-sign this shoot your shot. This is stupid. I'm going to be honest with you, Mama. This is foul Wow, well, okay, well I don't know if I could Cosign this shoot your shot

This is stupid I'm gonna be honest with you, mama This is very dumb Let's see what happens You're gonna call Kevin When we come back This is dumb You should really call Kevin

What's her name? Olivia Olivia, this is stupid But you can't help Who you connect with, though What am I supposed to do about that? This is why you got kicked off Loving hip-hop

This is why you got kicked out Of the band right here, Olivia Alright It's not that same Olivia. It's not the same one? When we come back, we're going to call Kevin. Keep it locked.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Shoot Your Shot. Olivia is on the line.

She's about to call up Kevin. Let's see how this works. Hello? Hey, Kev, what's up? Hey, what's going on? Nothing. I was just thinking about you. So, you know, just wanted to see how you were doing. What are you up to?

How's it going? What's going on? You know, I just wanted to talk about, you know, what we've been talking about and just wanted to make sure you were still, you know, make sure you were still down. What exactly do you got in mind? So, you know, I'm planning on moving, right? Oh, where? Where to? To Florida.

And, you know, I wanted to know if you were still, if you were thinking about coming, if you still wanted to come. Dang. Florida. You know what? Yeah, why not? I don't, I'm a waiter. Okay, hold on, hold on.

This is crazy to me. Kevin. What's going on in there? What's going on here? I don't know what's happening. Kevin, all right. Now from, this is. Who is this?

This is your mama and daddy calling to intervene in your. And your uncle. And Cass. happening. Kevin, all right. Now, from... Yo, who is this? This is your mama and daddy calling to intervene in your... And your uncle. And Cass. This is God, all right? Now, Olivia told us that she's friends with your girlfriend, so you're going to just leave your girlfriend

and go... With Olivia? Oh, is this like some... Is, like, my girlfriend on the phone? No, no, it's the Breakfast Club, man. It's the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Angel E, Sean Amin, and the guys.

Your girlfriend listened. So your girlfriend blessed you with an opportunity to have a threesome. Now you're going to leave your girlfriend with the girl that she bought in to have a threesome with y'all? Do you understand you ruin it for all future men? You're ruining it right now because what if all women are listening to this saying, Yo, maybe that's a good thing. I'll bring in another girl, let my husband get his little rocks off, and we keep it moving. But now you you ruining it, making it bad for everybody

by leaving with the girl that she bought in for a threesome. You understand what I'm saying, boy? Well, I'm just, well, she should, listen, if you don't have a threesome, in my opinion, you bring in another girl,

that's fine, that's dope, but she brought in a girl that was badder than she is. So what? You gotta have some loyalty, some respect. So you're willing to break up with your girlfriend, and Olivia, you're willing to not be friends with this woman anymore because y'all would like to see each other.

It's more important than Cass. Absolutely. Damn it. I've never met a man who was being allowed to have his cake and eat it too, but he's deciding to throw out the cake and just keep to eat it too. Well, y'all are doing Cass a favor, okay? I wouldn't want to be friends without one of you. Well, I'm glad it worked out.

Hopefully you guys... This is not working out. This is messed up. You're ruining it for future generations to see. It's future shot. I guess he shot it, she shot it, shot it, and it worked out. Yeah, it worked out. Olivia, are you going to allow him to have more threesomes?

You know, I mean. See what I'm saying? Ha ha. Maybe. Now it's a maybe. You had a guaranteed woman at the house who was going to let you have threesomes. Now you're leaving her for a maybe. You know what?

Why not? Why not? Because he might do the same thing to you and leave you for the other woman. My goodness. All right, guys. Well, you guys enjoy your life in Florida. They say the craziest people come from Florida, so now you're part of them. I think the next goodness. All right, guys. Well, you guys enjoy your life in Florida. They say the craziest people come from Florida, so now you're part of them.

I think the next treason you should do, Olivia, is with a guy. I think you need to get a guy. Well, what if he leaves her for him? No, no, no, no, no. You hush. You stand down. What's his name? What's his boy name? Kevin.

Kevin, you stand down. Olivia, go get a guy. You, Kevin, and another guy. Have fun. All right? Olivia, go find an Oliver. Right now. Boy, bye.

Y'all have a good one. All right. Bye. Shoot your shot, all right? Rumors are up next. Don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

You all right? It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.

Well, the woman who was accusing Nelly of rape has said that she wants the whole matter dropped. She's not going to pursue any type of charges against him. Now, according to her attorney, Karen Kohler, she said her client has said put a halt to the criminal investigation of Nelly. She's not going to testify further in a criminal proceeding against him. She feels the system has failed her and she can't stand up to a celebrity. She's not going to testify further in a criminal proceeding against him. She feels the system has failed her and she can't stand up to a celebrity. She said, who will believe her? People are saying horrible things already. She cannot handle

this. She is about to break. She actually did an open letter and she said, we do not live in a society where a 21 year old college student can feel safe enough to pursue criminal charges against a celebrity for an alleged rape. So she said, you know, she wishes she had not called 911

because she believes the system is going to fail her. She wonders who is she to go by her small, unimportant self against a celebrity who will believe her people are saying horrible things. She can't handle it. She can't bear it. She wants this to end. She never wanted notoriety. She never wanted a dime from that man. She wants to go back to school and to graduate. And she cannot do this if she remains hidden in her room crying her heart out. Well, that's bittersweet for Nelly, though.

Because in a way, you would want to go to court so the facts of the case can come out. Because right now, everybody's just like, oh, Nelly must have did something. But the girl's too afraid to testify. Well, we don't know what the facts of the case are. We just know she's not pursuing. And that's my point. Right. And she ends it with, one day maybe our world will change and 30 women will not

be needed to eventually speak out against a celebrity who has hurt them in order to be believed. But that day has not yet come. Alright, so I guess we'll never know exactly what happened. Mark Anthony, in the meantime, has had some issues. Apparently he was robbed of

$2.5 million. Now how does that happen? Wow. You have to be very, very rich because this has been happening over the past eight years. Now, Kyle Tessiori, who worked at his accounting firm, is actually the one that was running up those charges. He was using his credit cards, accessing his accounts

from 2009 to 2017 and was having a great old time using his Amex and all of that. $2.5 million. Now, Mark Anthony's people did an internal audit, and that's how they found out about the irregular spending. That's all. Just take a look off the top. You won't notice.

You got tens of millions coming in. Listen, I would notice. You spend an extra $20. I'm like, what happened to this money? Yeah, but you're not a $20 million man. I know. That's what I'm saying. I notice. I notice every little bit of money because I can't afford for you to be robbing my account.

But over eight years, so now he's going to go to jail. All right, Waka Flaka says he does not identify as black. Now, he was on with Sway, and here's what he had to say. Not African-American at all. My folks is not from Africa, but people just don't understand. I asked my grandma, like, yo, grandma, what's your background? She's like redfoot and black-tailed Indian. I asked my other grandma, we got Cherokee your background? She's like redfoot and black-tailed Indian. That's my other grandma.

We got Cherokee in us and European and Italian and a little Dominican. I'm uneducated. So for me to sit here like a college professor, I'm wrong. Do you address yourself as Native American? Do you address yourself as black? I'm uneducated. I'm confused. You know what I'm saying?

But I'm damn sure not black. You're not going to call me black. My grandmother's not Crayola. I'm connected to a tribe. I'm from a tribe, not a country. See, I never heard that clip in this whole context. So he's saying he's Native American. Yes, he's saying he's Native American.

He didn't really say what he identifies with. He just says he knows what his tribe is, but he says he's damn sure not black. He named a bunch of Native American tribes early on. I know, but he asked him, do you identify as Native American or black? And he just said, he said he don't know. Right. I get it. He doesn't know.

I didn't hear that clip in this whole context at first. I just saw the one part where he was like, I'm un't know. Right. I get it. He doesn't know. I didn't hear that clip in his whole context at first. I just saw the one part where he was like, I'm uneducated. Right. I'm not black. Oh yeah, that's what happens.

A lot of people see a little clip and then they run with it because then people started going in on him and here's how he explains himself even further. When you become this celebrity, you get to walk around the world,

get to travel around the world, get to touch the people and get to find out the truth. And then when you get back home, which you call America, and you start telling the truth, people you see that's in your community that's still

plugged in the matrix and still trapped into what society tells you is reality. It's hard to explain, but just know my I'm black, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't the black America that I am. See, I'm confused now. Now he's black, but he's not the black that you say he is.

Even if he's all 100% Native American, he's still a person of color, though. Correct. Yeah. But he's just saying he doesn't identify himself as black. African American. As African American. I'm 95% West African, okay?

You know what that means? I'm black as hell. All right? That's all I know. All right. And I just want to shout out to Revolt. Again, the Revolt Music Conference was over the weekend. Shout out to Sharice, who works at Revolt.

She did a great job organizing and holding everybody down. I know I was on her back the whole time. I need this, I need that. But she was very pleasant and took care of everything. So I appreciate you, Sharice. Shout out to everybody who came out to the Revolt Music Conference. And Queen Latifah, who was also honored. And I got the chance to see Lauryn Hill perform.

And that was exciting. And SZA as well. And SZA is incredible. So shout out to SZA. Shout out to Lauryn Hill. Mm-hmm. And everybody at Revolt. Yeah, they're getting their things together over at the Revolt Music Conference.

It was way more organized. It was really nice. Had a good time this time. It was great. All right. Shout out to the Eden Rock Hotel. Everything was running late. I'm sure everything was good, too.

So everything started later than it was supposed to. They kept having to push things back. Well, because of the rain, the storm, and there was a lot of things that were supposed to happen outside that they had to move inside. Yeah. But it was a good event. All right. And we broadcasted live from there, and that was actually a really nice event. It's actually nicer indoors, I think, than outdoors.

Yeah. But I'd rather do outdoors because watching the sun come up was amazing. Previous years. But anyway. Oh, man. Look, AJ Calloway just hit me about a story we just did about the guy who, Kyle, who hit up Mark Anthony and was spending on his credit card. Yep. He said he actually messed up his money and Q-Tip's money and DMX as well.

Oh. Sheesh. All right. Don't drop on the clues bombs for Kyle. Don't drop no bombs. Take that bomb back. Take that bomb back, man. What's wrong with you?

Kyle know how to rob people with no gun. My goodness. All right. Mix is up next. Revolt, we'll see you tomorrow. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country?

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