The Breakfast Club - Should You Bring Flowers To A First Date?

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

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Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us, we're talking about this guy that's been trending on social media. Alright, now he was trending because he went on a date and it didn't go as planned, he was damn near crying. Let's hear what he said. So I just left the restaurant after waiting 30 minutes for a date to show up, and apparently I got stood up. I don't know what to say, like I'm trying to do everything right to be a gentleman. I brought flowers. I've been consistent talking with this girl for two weeks,

trying to get to know what she likes, what she doesn't like. I made plans. I picked the restaurant, the day and the time. I've done everything to be just the kind of guy that really values somebody's time. I'm just looking for my person. I'm just looking for the one that I guess is out there for me. Ladies, tell me, what did I do wrong? All right, and we're asking 805-85-1051.

What's your thoughts? Now, Willie D doesn't feel like this guy should have brought flowers at all. He thought that was the first red flag. First red flag. Second red flag is all that damn crime. See, look, man, don't no woman want a dude like that leading them. I know there's a lot of women who was in the comments or the dumbest section making these uh suggestions that we should show this

guy some sympathy poor guy that's bad those same women would not date that guy under any circumstances bringing bringing flowers to a woman on the first date is a red flag. She probably saw him. That's why she didn't show up. She probably saw him from a distance or had one of her friends who work at the restaurant, you know, put them on FaceTime or something and be like, show me. Let me see what this dude like. Oh, girl. And she probably called one of her friends.

Girl, that's crazy. He got some goddamn flowers, a whole bouquet of flowers. You think flowers is that bad? Girl, that dude is crazy. He got some goddamn flowers. A whole bouquet of flowers. You think flowers is that bad, Willie? I think it depends on what kind of flowers. Like, it's a first date, so I do agree with Willie. It's a first date, you know what I mean? So that might be moving kind of fast.

But I don't think it's a bad gesture. But I just wouldn't bring a dozen roses. Maybe some tulips, some lilies, some sunflowers. It's something nice. I think this starts the date off in a positive direction you come pick up a date

or she come here you go there's a bouquet of flowers it just can't be roses roses is very sentimental romantic especially depending

on what color man this ain't no prom date bro this ain't prom this is just a regular old date man yeah I've been talking

to this chick for a couple of weeks I'm trying to get the it is very important that you not spook a woman that you first meet yeah you know after they've dated for a while and they really know each other and she understands him he understands her you know he can buy roses anytime it's great but you got to be very careful because women can easily get spooked you think flowers is i don't don't think flowers can spook women, man. I think flowers can spook a woman because...

I think roses will. I think a little basket of sunflowers... Isn't roses flowers? Yeah, but roses... The different colors mean romantic. Like red means romance. Nah. I think that means love, I thought.

Yeah, red means love and romance. I forgot what white and all that means. But I would like some tulips, some lilies. Okay, so if roses cool, it's diamond stud, cool that's crazy that's what it was first date flowers you can get flowers for ten dollars fifteen dollars at walmart what about a teddy bear hell no i'm gonna change the situation for you right no let's say whether you got a daughter right yeah and the gentleman comes to pick up your daughter you don't want him to come with some flowers no i want him to come with the right attitude it's more important that's right

we're trying to learn each other so it's more important that that that you know you you learn each other and watch each other mannerisms and and and and get familiar with one another that's the most important thing i think you know like it ain it ain't even where you take them. It's not about fancy restaurants and gifts and all that kind of stuff. It's about the human connection. That's what it's about. It's not about all that other stuff. And this is where we get

confused at. You don't think the flowers help to open up the human connection, though? No. Damn. Let's go. There's a lot of people on the line. Let me tell you something. You have to really think, when you're doing this, when you're dealing with a woman, have to like get out of your feelings you got to get out of your emotions and think to yourself if i do this how can she how how might she interpret it and you got to take out the as much wiggle room for interpretation as possible you might say damn nobody ever gave me tulips before right this is special this, damn, nobody ever gave me tulips before. Right, this is special. This is nice. Yeah, nobody ever gave you tulips.

Yeah, nobody ever gave me tulips before. This dude is a cornball. Damn. Tonya! Yes? Tonya, what's up? Talk to us. Flowers on the first date, Tonya? What you think? Hey, guys, listen. Yes. Flowers on the first date, I mean, it's fine. It's not

like it's a big deal. He did everything right. It's not like it's a big deal. He did everything right. It's just the only thing that I felt that he did wrong is he's whining about it. A woman does not want to hear a man whine. I think I agree with that. Yeah, but the flowers, I don't see nothing wrong with it. Hello, who's this? Hello.

Hey, what's your name, bro? This is Drew from the Bronx. Oh, from the Bronx. What'd you bring on your first date? Bacon, egg, and cheese. Bacon, egg, and cheese. A bacon, egg, and cheese. A box of backwoods.

Box cutter. I want to answer that question with the flowers. I think Willie D is wrong about that. I think you can give a girl flowers anytime you feel like you want to give her flowers. That's how you feel about it? One day, two weeks? It doesn't matter. And if you a ladies' man, you're going to get it. That's how you feel about it? One day, two weeks? It doesn't matter. And if you a ladies' man,

you're going to do that anyway. And that's why the bodega sell flowers, right? And the flowers are cheap at the bodega. Stop hanging up on people. Hello, who's this? How you doing this morning?

Can you hear me? I can hear you now. What's your thoughts, mama? Hi, this is Suzy. Suzy, what do you think about flowers on the first date, Suzy? I think that that was a good gesture.

I think that you... a good gesture Like I think 843 hold on I got Geechee in you So you know we romantic from the In the low country You already know What Yeah I think he did a good thing Like that was the right thing for him to do

Was to bring the flowers that was her loss Okay I agree see we romantic In the low country you know what i'm saying willie just made all the floors in texas lose money this morning hey say i'm i'm a romantic guy too but i believe that romance has to be earned i don't i don't just i'm not just giving no any chick romance like yeah we're gonna have a conversation first let me see if you are deserving. Just like a woman shouldn't give any man romance. Right. I think there's levels to it.

And if it don't work out, whatever's left is better than whatever left. Rob, what's your thoughts, Rob? Yeah, what's up? Yeah, I'm with Willie D, man. First off, you got to set up the date. There's something that you're going to be doing yourself That if somebody don't show up Then you can still do you Number two, never

Chivalry's pretty much there nowadays As far as women appreciating shit like that You gotta make them work to earn that You know, you gotta get out there And use your mouthpiece at first To see if they're about something And then after that Then you can escalate to getting gifts and getting flowers.

I don't think we should let women dictate how we move as romantics. Meaning that if I'm the type of person that like to bring a woman flowers, I'm going to just bring the woman flowers. Now, if she messed that up, then we won't go no further than the flowers in this date. You know? Yeah, but you see how it ended for him. Crying on the internet. See?

So we can say all this stuff where we want to, but if we look at these situations in general, this is usually the result. Yeah. You know, there is a such thing as a guy being too kind, too fast. Too kind, too fast is a red flag yeah and i think this is the thing that what that lady said about the whining is important because i feel like he had a sense of entitlement you know what i mean even though he did get stood up like what if something happened like your mind don't even go to maybe something happened but it seems like this wasn't

the first time he had an emergency it seems like he's been stood up numerous times. This is all he can stand. He can't stand no more. Come on, Evie. That's what I'm saying. A lot of times, these guys, I heard some people saying that, well, you see, this is what happens when you do stuff like this to guys. They end up being mass murderers, serial killers, and rapists, and all this kind of stuff because people pick on them and bully them. Let me tell

you something, man. If being rejected is going to make you that, you're a chump. You're a sucker anyway. Look, man, there have been greater men than us who have been rejected and picked themselves up, dusted themselves off, and

kept it moving. You get rejected, man, you keep it moving. And if you are that what you think you are, then it's her loss anyway. We'll take some more calls. 800-585-1051. But, Willie, I will say that's today's society, and that's part of the problem, right? Because before you get

rejected, what your pops or your family tell you to do, you go back out there and try again. Suck it up, buttercup. Same thing if you get into a bully. Let's say you got a problem with a bully. What do your pops do? You go fight that there and try again. Suck it up, buttercup. Same thing if you get into a bully. Let's say you got a problem with a bully. What did your pops do? You go fight that bully. If you lose, you go fight him again.

You go fight him again. Or you learn, if he's making fun of you, you learn how to make fun of him back. It was never to the point where you got to go cry because your family wasn't going to allow it. Now I feel like a lot of times we put gloves, we hand massage these kids with gloves where they feel like it's the end of the world when they get talked about. I agree kids with gloves where they feel like

it's the end of the world when they get talked about. I agree with all that. They feel like it's the end of the world when they get dissed on a date. The only thing I don't agree with is that whole bully thing.

I always thought that was a lie. Somebody beat your ass good one time you ain't going back no matter who puts you to call back. I don't want to tell that lie.

Well the thing about it is that if you fight a bully typically if you fight a bully and you fight back, you usually don't have to deal with that bully again. That's right. Because bullies don't like resistance. That's right. Bullies like easy targets.

They like soft targets. And this is why it's important when somebody bullies you, it's important to stand up for yourself the first time because if you don't, you are teaching them that it's okay to bully. So you don't think that man stood up for himself on the internet by whining like that? No. You're letting these women know y'all gonna stop playing with me. No, I think he laid down for himself and he did himself a

huge disservice. And no woman, no woman that's really about something would want to procreate with a dude like that. What is he gonna teach his boy? To cry harder? Look, dad, your cry was weak. Look at my cry, dad. Ah!

You know what I'm saying? No, man, get on up out of here with that. Stop all that crying, man. Stop all that. Not just him. All you other dudes, you newscasters. I've been seeing news. I've been wanting to say this for a long time.

You newscasters out here. All this damn crying. Stop all that. I'm talking about specifically black men. Stop all that damn crime, man. You know, like it's a time and a place for everything. I'm not one of those dudes who subscribe to the concept that men should not cry. I'm not.

I'm not that dude. But there is a time and place for everything. And we have to learn to control our emotions. If there's two things that a man must control in order to operate at his optimum, it is his emotions and his penis. We got to learn to control that. If you can do that, man, you can rule. 800-585-1051.

We'll take some more calls. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this video that went viral about this man that went on a date.

It was his first date. He brought flowers. He got stood up. He was crying. Willie D said, well, he shouldn't have brought flowers. Flowers is too early. He don't understand why. Right? So we're taking your calls. 800-585-1051. Of course, Willie D is our guest co-host this morning. Misha, good morning. Misha, good morning. Good morning. What's your

thoughts, Misha? I don't feel like he was wrong for bringing her flowers. There was nothing wrong with that. Oh, you don't see nothing wrong with that oh you don't see nothing wrong with that no flowers are not that expensive and it's a good gesture yeah i think as long as they not roses i think it's cool what if you would have brought her bought her a pair of red bottoms that's a little too far that's wild i mean that's roses is like flowers seven to ten dollars you go to both bottoms is a commitment might be like yeah but what woman

ain't gonna accept those red bottoms yeah but i wouldn't do that that's it that's doing too much because if i'm a woman i'm looking at oh do you do this all the time you just randomly give people red bottoms flowers is a little randomly just give people flowers flowers is different though because you can just give them to a person just because you want to light up their life flowers are a sentimental gesture sent Being sentimental to a woman should be earned. It should be something earned. If you give it to her too fast,

she's not going to appreciate it. The same thing with a man. You don't pay for the meal either. You give it to her too fast, she's not going to appreciate it. You don't pay for the meal either? I pay for the meal. That's easy.

You know what I'm saying? I would do that. I mean, I'm old school in the sense that that that um that i do believe that men pay for everything women are hypergamous you know i'm saying like i believe in that matt you know i'm cool with that i have no problem with that hey what's going on good morning good morning matt what's your thoughts brother hey so first of all good morning everybody morning girl looking for flowers i'm not bringing her flowers on the first day and first of all i'm not taking you out to a fancy dinner.

We can go to a coffee dinner, something that gets us talking, gets to know each other in a public space. We feel safe. And that's it. Before I got married, every date I had, we went to Barnes & Noble. We got to see what kind of books you're into. And if you want a coffee, I got you. I'll pay for Starbucks. That ain't nothing wrong for me.

And then I'll take you on a nice date afterwards. I'm going to be honest with you. I think that's more, I think going to Barnes & Noble's is very intimate. But you know what? The guy also said he was talking to her for the last two weeks, I guess, on the phone. I guess he did the initial conversations. He said he was feeling her out to see what she liked, what she didn't like. So he was already doing the initial conversations.

I hope some of y'all are keeping notes. Because even though Willie D disagrees, I think bringing a woman flowers on her first date is cool. But also, that Barnes & Noble's thing is dope. Meeting a woman at Barnes & Noble's, and y'all just having a conversation at barnes and nobles y'all can talk about what kind of books y'all like and stuff like that that's that's cool and it's very cost effective but what's the moral of the story oh the moral of the story man i really want y'all to listen to me because you know everybody's looking for somebody i understand that so please listen to me please are y listening? Okay. Just because you haven't found the right person doesn't mean you will. Namaste.