The Breakfast Club - Sil Lai Abrams Interview and more

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

Today on the show Angela Yee had the chance to interview one of Russell Simmons accuser Sil Lai Abrams to get her side of the story. Moreover, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Mike Pence for cl...aiming Covid cases have dropped but that same day reports came out that the cases have grown. Also, Angela helped some listeners during "Ask Yee". Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:45 What you guys are doing I'm talking right now. You're about to experience a morning show unlike any of you. Shout out to the Breakfast Club. I love to see y'all every morning. What you guys are doing right now is the hub culture. The Breakfast Club is my morning sit. I need it and I love it so much. I feel like you're really not popping until you do the Breakfast Club. I've been waiting to come to y'all's show, man. I know you got to be a big time celebrity to be up in here.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You got to be big time. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne the God. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Break the f*** up! Good morning, USA! Morning USA. To the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Pump day. And of course, good morning Toronto. Hey. It's Wednesday, middle of the week.
Starting point is 00:03:00 How you guys feeling out there? How you feeling? I'm good. I'm a little sluggish. I went for a long walk yesterday in Brooklyn, but I was at this restaurant called Tilly's. I went to go get some takeout while I was there. And you know, in Brooklyn, well, in New York, they've been doing drinks to go.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So I had this little wine drink, and I think I haven't been drinking that much, so I had one of those. Yeah. Out and about. All right. Well, shout out to Revolt. Yesterday I was on Revolt.
Starting point is 00:03:27 They were talking about, let me get the correct, beyond black and blue. So they were talking to me and another lady. I can't remember her name. And they were just talking about the police and what we feel the police should be doing. And they were just asking my opinion, what my dad said. Of course, my dad is a retired police officer. And I, you know, we were just going through, you know, how I was raised as a son of a cop and what my dad said about police. And I've said it a million times. You know, my dad's number one thing is the police are not your friends. You don't say anything. Keep your
Starting point is 00:03:58 mouth shut. You know, you can always call a lawyer you can always call your parents but you never say anything don't try to weasel your way out of a situation just shut the F up as my dad would always say and the second thing my dad would always say is you gotta make it home I always talk about I used to get pulled over a lot
Starting point is 00:04:20 and one time when I got pulled over my dad was on a speakerphone and I was being an ass to the cop because the cop was being an ass to me. I could just hear my dad yelling, screaming, just give him your license and registration. Just give him your license and effing registration. So when the cop left, my dad was like, look, it doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. Yes, he's absolutely wrong. But at the end of the day, I need you to come home. I need you to make it home. You can't beat him in the street.
Starting point is 00:04:46 We can beat him when you get home, but you can't beat him in the street. And that just stuck with me. And I tell that to my kids. I mean, it's not right, but at the end of the day, I want my kids to make it home. We talked about that last time on the vote. Yeah, that's great advice. The only sad part is we've seen people be polite to police and comply with police. And still end up getting killed or getting beat up or brutalized.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So, I mean, it's like you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. I don't think that the community, I don't think the community relationship, the black community relationship will never be a solid relationship with the police until there is an overwhelming amount of people from our community that are police officers. I actually think that should be one of the community policing incentives. Like they should have financial incentive for people who grew up in a certain neighborhood who decide to go into law enforcement and come back and police said neighborhood. They should have a financial incentive to do that. Absolutely. We also spoke, you know, growing up in Queens, I was like, you know, it was more community.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I remember there was a kid on our block and I talk about this. You know, he had Down syndrome and we called him the E kid because all he said was E, E, E. And I remember there was an incident one time with the police and my dad was there and the police came. And if my dad wasn't there, I don't know what would happen to that kid because he was had Down syndrome. He was aggressive, but my dad knew him. So when the cops came, my dad was like, no, I got this. I got this. I got this. And my dad was able to call his mom and call his pop
Starting point is 00:06:09 and de-escalate the situation because he knew the community. He knew the kid, you know what I mean? But if it would have been anybody else, they wouldn't have known what was going on. If he would have attacked, they might have shot him. So like you said, yeah, we absolutely positively need more of that in the community. My dad is a Queens head.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He's originally from Brooklyn, but when we moved to Queens, that's his block. He's not going nowhere. He knows everybody on the block. He knows the kids on the block. He knows the elderly people on the block. It's that. It's what he does. My homeboy, who's a cop, he asked me yesterday, he said, how long do I think cops should be in training?
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I said, it depends. I said, you know, it depends on the community they're policing. If they're training a community that they're not from, they don't have no experience with, the training should be longer. If they're going to be policing
Starting point is 00:06:57 in a community that they know, the training should be shorter. That's just my personal opinion. And you feel a little different when your family's in that community. Like, is my dad going to do something foul in the community when I'm running around playing as a kid? No, he protects that community.
Starting point is 00:07:11 He knows his kids, his kids' friends. So we talked about that last night on Revolt. Very great conversation. So shout out to Ebony K. Williams, Diddy, Sharice, and everybody on the Revolt team. Appreciate you guys. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Now we got a special guest joining us this morning. Ye did a one-on-one with this young lady. Yes. Syl Lai Abrams. Yeah, Syl Lai Abrams. So you want to explain to the people who Syl is, Ye? Yes. Syl Lai is a woman who is, she's an author and she's an activist.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And she is also one of the women who was featured on On the Record. That is the documentary about Russell Simmons with the women who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault. And she's one of the women that's featured on there. And she's told her story before the documentary. And she's told her story in books that she's authored, but not said his name until a couple of years ago. She has said who the person is.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And so we'll get into what made her come forward, what made her say the person who assaulted her is Russell Simmons and say his name. And also why she participated in this documentary, what has been the response since then and why women's voices need to be heard and uplifted. All right. So we'll speak with her a little bit later. But now we got front page news. What are we talking about? and why women's voices need to be heard and uplifted. All right, so we'll speak with her a little bit later. But now we got front page news. What are we talking about? Well, since we talked about the police, let's talk about this police,
Starting point is 00:08:35 this executive action signing that Donald Trump had yesterday at the White House. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let morning. N.V., Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Where we starting, Yee? Well, yesterday, Donald Trump was doing an event in the Rose Garden, and he was talking about an executive order that he says creates a federal database of police officers with a history of using excessive force. Now, Donald Trump is against dismantling the police. Here's what he said. I strongly oppose the radical and dangerous efforts to defend, dismantle and dissolve our police departments, especially now when we've achieved the lowest recorded crime rates in recent history. Without police, there is chaos. Without law,
Starting point is 00:09:22 there is anarchy. And without safety, there is catastrophe. Americans believe we must support the brave men and women in blue who police our streets and keep us safe. Americans also believe we must improve accountability, increase transparency and invest more resources in police training, recruiting and community engagement. Nobody is talking about dismantling the police, though. The funding is not dismantling. resources in police training, recruiting, and community engagement. Nobody is talking about dismantling the police, though. The funding is not dismantling. Nobody said we don't want any police. We just want the police to be held accountable when they commit violence
Starting point is 00:09:54 against us and kill us. And yes, they don't need them big ass budgets. Take some of that money and put it into the community. Nobody said dismantling. Some people are saying to dismantle police departments. Some people are calling for... I mean, so we can't say no one's saying that. Yeah, but that's not what defunding means, though. Like, he keeps trying to twist the words, defund the police.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's not what defunding the police means. For some people, that is what it means. I think it's just, you do have to be clear, because defund does mean to take away the funds. And so for some people they look at it like okay so another thing that he discussed was he said that it's only a small percentage of bad cuffs and he talks about why is he signing this executive order because at no point did he address racism as the issue but here's what he said reducing crime and raising standards are not opposite goals that is why today i'm signing an executive order encouraging police departments nationwide to adopt the highest professional standards to serve their communities.
Starting point is 00:10:53 These standards will be as high and as strong as there is on Earth. All right. The executive order is really nothing to get excited about. I mean, because it's just suggestions. Like, I do like some of the things that are in there, like supporting the registry of bad cops and co-responders in mental health cases, but it's not a bill. It's just suggestions.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Say that word again. Right. Suggestions. Okay. Now, he also met with the families. You owe him your Roto Gs. He also met with the families of Ahmaud Arbery, Botham John, Antoine Rose, Jamil Robeson, Tatiana Jefferson, Michael Dean, Darius Tarver, Cameron Lamb, and Everett Palmer. And according to one person who attended, they said it was very powerful.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It took place for an hour before he signed the executive order, and there were a lot of tears in the room. So Kamala Harris, by the way, before we move on from Front Page News, she tweeted out Trump's policing executive order is meaningless. Since day one, he's used racially charged rhetoric all while rolling back efforts to root out racism and policing and virtually abandoning police misconduct investigations. We need real reforms past the Justice and Policing Act now. She's right because it's not a bill. It's not a bill. You put it in a bill, make the GOP pass it, sign it, then you got something. But those are the executive orders, just suggestions. That's just a whole bunch of pomp and circumstance. That's all. He probably just wanted the families in the White House to be able to get a picture with him,
Starting point is 00:12:18 to be honest, to make it look like he cares and he's doing something. I'm sure. Election season, baby. A lot of dreams being sold. Yep. Car salesmen everywhere. All right, well, that is front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Phone lines are wide open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help. We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:13:37 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests
Starting point is 00:14:00 and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed
Starting point is 00:15:49 800-585-1051 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club Hello, who's this? What's up? It's Leek, man Hey, my car done broke down yesterday, man That's s*** I had to get my girl car to work, bro Could be worse
Starting point is 00:16:03 What was wrong with you? She didn't have a car You could have had to walk At least your girl got a car Yeah, yeah But I had to take her car to work, bro. Could be worse. What was wrong with it? You could have to walk. At least your girl got a car. Yeah, yeah. But I had to take her car to work, man. That's embarrassing. Why is it embarrassing?
Starting point is 00:16:13 What's going on, Charlemagne? What's up, King? He's just talking. Why is her car embarrassing? No, not her car. I'm talking about being broke on the side of the road, man. That's embarrassing. Man, it happens.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Your car broke down. You're not broke on the side of the road. Your. That's embarrassing. Man, it happens. Your car broke down. You're not broke on the side of the road. Your car just broke down. It happens to the best of us. Now it's time to go and get a brand new whip, man. All right. If you got it like that, play it, play it. Yeah, I don't see the problem.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I don't see what you're complaining about. It's the worst feeling ever. Your car breaks down. I told you my tire flew off my car one day. I was on the side of the highway. It does feel sad and lonely. It does. A couple one day. I was on the side of the highway. It does feel sad and lonely. It does. A couple weeks ago I was on the side of the road. Called the tow truck.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Come get me. Thanks for calling, bro. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is LaShawn from the Bronx. Hey, LaShawn. Get it off your chest. Well, I want to know why is it that these cops have to do all these professions that they say they have to do but yet they're required to have limited education in order to perform it.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Hairdressers have to go to school longer to get trained before cops, and cops are able to take people live. Why is that? How long is police academy? The police have to go to academy. They have to go to academy. I only know that from the movies.
Starting point is 00:17:20 A doctor has to go to school for seven years to save a life, but yet a cop has to go to academy and they get to kill people? That's not okay. How long is academy? I don't even know. 21 weeks of training. Yeah, 21 weeks. Come on.
Starting point is 00:17:34 21 weeks of training. But yet they have to perform. They have to be social workers and psychiatrists and all these other professions. But yet they don't have the education. That's not okay. But that isn't a police reform. They need not okay. But that and the police are for them. They need to go back to school and get more than 60 credits because they're only required to have 60 credits to be a police officer.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. Yeah. I was reading something. I thought it was just a high school diploma. I was reading something yesterday. It said, like, it's three years of training in Norway to be a police officer, three-year degree is required to become a police officer in Finland, two years of training to become a police officer in Germany,
Starting point is 00:18:06 but in America, you just need a high school diploma and 21 weeks of training, 21 to 24 weeks of training. Is it still a high school diploma? Because I know at one time, I thought they moved it up. You need a certain amount of college credits. I'm not sure, though. Don't quote me. Don't quote me.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I just looked it up. It says a high school diploma is often the minimum formal education required. An associate's, bachelor's, or graduate degree is rarely mandatory. Hmm. Damn. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:18:35 If you need to vent, hit us up now. Now we got rumors on the way, Yee? Yes, we do. And we'll be talking about Matt Barnes, what he has to say about Kyrie Irving sitting out the NBA season. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. So as you know, Kyrie Irving is calling for NBA players to reconsider resuming the season
Starting point is 00:19:07 so that players can focus on fighting oppression and so that we don't lose focus. And a lot of people have been critical of that. One person who is critical is Matt Barnes. Now he was on his podcast that he does with Steven Jackson. And here's what he had to say. Kyrie needs to quit bulls**t because what I heard was Kyrie wanted to go to Orlando to support his team. They didn't let him, so then he flipped the script, talking about, I'm going to give up
Starting point is 00:19:31 everything. Bro, you can give up everything and go do the Meyer Moore s**t if you really want to, but at the same time, sitting out without a cause or a purpose defeats the purpose, and then it also divides us. I respect people don't want to play because if it's COVID and you're putting your family at risk, I get that. But if it's for the movement of the country right now, we have to take charge of this. Yeah, I mean, I
Starting point is 00:19:52 tend to agree with Matt Barnes. Like, nobody can make me understand why some NBA players think playing would be a distraction from the protest. Like, athlete activism has always been a thing. The demonstrations and things you can do before a game, the comments you can make after a game will only highlight what's going on in the streets.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And if you're not playing, if you are not playing, are you about to dedicate your life to full-time activism? If that's the case, cool. If not, I don't get it. And the reference that he had to Maya Moore, Maya Moore is a WNBA star who sat out consecutive seasons to work directly on criminal justice
Starting point is 00:20:24 reform. We had talked about that previously. She announced that she was missing a second straight season in the Olympics before they were postponed because she was helping a family friend overturn a 50-year prison sentence. So she dedicated her life. Correct. She was on the front lines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So if you're dedicating your life to full-time activism, if you're not playing because you want to be out there on the front lines, I get it. If not, I don't get it all right stacy dash has officially filed for divorce from her fourth husband uh jeffrey marty so they were married for two years almost two years and she posted the announcement previously she said my husband and i have made the hard decision of ending our marriage after much prayer i feel this is the right path for both of us. I wish him nothing but the best. And, you know, she was arrested on domestic battery charges.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Y'all remember when that happened, but she was cleared after the state attorney did not press charges against her. I wonder what's the longest lease she's had on her husband. What do you mean? The two-year lease, this one. Oh, boy. The last husband was a two-year lease. I wonder what's the longest lease she's ever had on her. Does she get miles with that? How many miles does she get per year? What do you mean? That was a two-year lease, this one. Oh, boy. That was a two-year lease. The last husband was a two-year lease.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I wonder what's the longest lease she's ever had on a... Does she get miles with that? How many miles does she get per year? That's what I'm saying. I wonder when did she realize it's time to turn it in and get a new one. Right. Well, that one's about to be over. Fourth one. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And J. Cole, you know what? I woke up this morning and I saw J. Cole and Kendrick were trending. I don't understand why still. I was trying to figure it out. I mean, J. Cole, I know what? I woke up this morning and I saw J. Cole and Kendrick were trending. I don't understand why still. I was trying to figure it out. I mean, J. Cole, I know he put out a new song and we're going to play that actually. Yes, Snow on the Bluff. And that's his first song of 2020. So, you know, he's discussing everything that's been happening.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's interesting because I just interviewed Neo for lip service. That episode just came out yesterday. And he was saying one artist who he really wants to work with right now is jay cole especially to do a song about everything that's happening right now and black lives matter and jay cole just did that himself with snow on the bluff so i think we should play that let's do it yeah we don't appreciate snow on the bluff like we should not the jay cole song the actual movie snow i was about to say the song just came out classic phenomenal film, man.
Starting point is 00:22:25 We do not appreciate that movie like we should. I'm going to be honest with you. I like that movie. I love Snow on the Bluff. Everybody should go watch Snow on the Bluff at least once in your life. It's kind of like the Hood Blair Witch Project. You remember how we didn't rip the... Well, I didn't know if the Blair Witch Project was real at first,
Starting point is 00:22:41 only because I saw a documentary about it before it aired. So I was like, wow, somebody actually was walking around with his camera and captured this footage. I thought that about Snow on the Bluff as well. Well, shout out to Curtis Snow from Snow on the Bluff. That's right. Classic film, you got, Curtis. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report. And let's get into J. Cole's new song, Snow on the Bluff. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:23:33 The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan
Starting point is 00:24:00 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection,
Starting point is 00:25:31 it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:26:02 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Where are we starting, Yee? Well, let's start with Donald Trump's police reform executive order. What is in it? A new database for police misconduct. He said they will establish a new national database of police officers
Starting point is 00:26:28 with a history of using excessive force. Mental health co-responders. They are directing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to encourage police departments to embed mental health professionals as co-responders on calls related to mental health, homelessness, and addiction. And also directing
Starting point is 00:26:43 to help police departments find funds to hire this personnel, and banning chokeholds, but technically not really. So what they said under this executive order is that chokeholds will be banned except when an officer's life is at risk, and the only police departments that choose to get certified would have to comply with that standard. Yeah, because I saw people saying that there is no banning chokeholds initiative that choose to get certified would have to comply with that standard. Yeah, because I saw people saying that there is no banning chokeholds initiative in his executive order.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I actually saw Maya Harris tweet that out. But, I mean, the executive order is really nothing to get excited about. It's just suggestions. I do like some of those things that are in there, supporting the registry of bad cops, definitely the responders in mental health cases, but it's not a bill. If you put it in a bill, make the GOP pass it and then sign it, then we'll have
Starting point is 00:27:28 something to talk about. That executive order, that is nothing but symbolism. People will never trust police officers if you don't know their record, if you don't know their past, if you don't know if they had previous reports. That has to be public knowledge. If they pull me over, they know my past, they know my history, we should know everybody's history.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Honestly. Yeah, and you can't say that you're banning chokeholds unless, you know, an officer's life. Then you're not really banning chokeholds. Correct. It's not really banned. All right, now let's discuss Rayshard Brooks. He was killed by an Atlanta police officer outside the Wendy's restaurant after failing a sobriety test. Then he fought with two officers and took a taser from one and ran away. Well, now they are saying, according to the police union president, that that shooting was justified under Georgia law.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So they said the taser is not a deadly weapon when used by a trained individual because a trained individual knows where to aim it. But an untrained individual does not. And then it becomes a deadly weapon at that point. In addition you know Gaynor said that could he carjack somebody? Could he be scared so that he's going to kidnap somebody in another car? Is he going to hurt a civilian? There's a lot of things that come into play that you have to play out
Starting point is 00:28:38 and go I am responsible for this person I was going to arrest and he now has a weapon that I provided him because he took it from me. So they are saying now that— Shooting him in the back is legal? Was justified. Is lawful? No, there's nothing justified about that killing.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I heard so many different things. I heard that once the tase—and maybe I'm wrong, but they said once the tase is discharged, it can't be discharged again. And they said that tase was discharged. You can only do it one time, yeah. I heard that. Then I also heard that I heard that when he was
Starting point is 00:29:08 running away, they could have, it's one of those things where the taser is I guess you have to be within four feet of the person. And it was further than four feet. There's so many correlations and different things that I've heard about that, you know. My thing is this, right? Weren't they fired though?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Weren't those cops fired? I think they resigned. One of them resigned. I thought one was. And the other one was, yeah. The officer who shot him, Garrett Rolfe, was fired after the footage showed him shooting at Brooks multiple times. And the other officer, well, the police chief resigned,
Starting point is 00:29:43 but the police chief wasn't there, but the police chief did resign. Well, I know officers have multiple weapons on them. Why not have a gun with rubber bullets for a situation like that? If you got to, you know, gun somebody down from the back, why can't you use rubber bullets? The same bullets you use on protesters. You know what I mean? Why do they have to be real bullets? And how do you justify, how does somebody, you know, snatching your taser and running justify you shooting them in the back
Starting point is 00:30:06 and killing them? I don't understand that a lot. Well, see, that's something different. There's no way that one unarmed man should be able to overpower them, two police officers, and take his weapon. But having an additional weapon, that would be a lot. Because you think about it, I mean, you would look like Rambo. I mean, you'd have a real gun, you'd have a gun with bullets,
Starting point is 00:30:22 then you'd have a taser, and then you'd have a baton. It you have a taser and then you have a baton like it's kind of like do you want to confuse the cops with all those those choices to shoot me you're giving them you're giving them billions of dollars in police budgets anyway so they might with that i want to talk about another story i don't know if you all heard this but this also happened in georgia and these moms were pleading with a cop who was holding these kids at gunpoint. The cop was by himself. He had gotten a report that a group of kids had a gun and were fighting in the store's parking lot. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Please, sir, please. Don't shoot. Don't shoot. Don't shoot, sir. Please, sir. Please. The kids. Don't shoot, sir. Please, sir. Please. And so the moms were pleading with the police officer to put the gun down and to make sure that nothing happened. And it was a group of, I think, like 30 people that were there just telling the police officer why you got a gun out.
Starting point is 00:31:19 They are kids. They're kids. So it was a 17 minute video. And they did. The children did admit they were teenagers, that they had a BB gun and they had thrown the gun in the bushes. And so and it resembles a semi-automatic pistol. But I don't know. What do you do in that situation?
Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean, in that situation, you got to understand when the police get a phone call that somebody has a gun, they're automatically thinking that somebody has a gun. So they have to make sure that nobody has that weapon. That's why they told him to put their hands up, and that's why he waited for backup to make sure somebody patted them down. And that situation, when you get a phone call and you say that, that's why we go back to community people. And that's when you know if somebody in that community, like, oh, Ray, Ray, come here, Ray, Ray. What you got? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:03 That's where it comes to that. But when a cop comes to a neighborhood and don't know these kids and they get a call for a gun, I mean, they got to protect themselves as well in this case. Yeah, but we've seen them get that horribly wrong, too. I mean, Tamir Rice. Tamir Rice was a kid, you know what I'm saying, with a toy gun in a park. How old was he at the time? Eight, I think. I don't know how old he was.
Starting point is 00:32:22 He was a kid. You know, he was supposed to be 20, I think sometime this week. Cops pulled up, just jumped out. Bah! They didn't even assess the situation. Nothing. They just got a call. Some kid's in the park with a gun, and they pulled up shooting.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So I don't know. It's complicated, I guess. Jesus Christ, man. Well, that is your front. The mistake that's made is somebody losing their life. Absolutely. Well, that is your Front Page News. I'm Angela losing their life. Absolutely. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Angela Yee.
Starting point is 00:32:47 All right. Thank you, Miss Yee. Now, when we come back yesterday, Yee had an opportunity to speak with Syl Lai Abrams. You want to explain what that conversation was about, Yee? Yes. Well, Russell Simmons did have a platform to come up here and discuss and defend himself from the accusations against him. And Soly Abrams is one of the women who has said that Russell Simmons actually, she says that he raped her. And so we wanted to make sure that these women also had that equal platform to just say what they have to say and express themselves.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So we wanted to make sure we gave so light abrams that platform. So we had a very enlightening discussion on black women, how women are treated, sexual violence and all of that. All right. We'll get into that next. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now we have a special guest. Angela Yee got a chance to speak with Sil Lai Abrams.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yes, she was featured on On the Record. That is a documentary with, she's one of the women who's accusing Russell Simmons of assault, of rape. Actually, in her situation, it was rape. And she talks about her situation. And she's going to give you all of this firsthand. We wanted to make sure she had the platform. So here we go. We interviewed Russell Simmons last week.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And you appeared in the On the Record documentary that's on HBO Max. And we're going to talk all about that. But we did see on social media that you did not appreciate that interview. So I do want to give you the platform here to respond to what happened with that Russell Simmons interview and also to be able to have the platform to tell your story. So let's just get that over with first. You know, I understand that everybody's entitled to tell their story. Everyone's entitled to share their side of things. What was incredibly painful for me as a survivor was being silenced for so
Starting point is 00:34:50 long. And the first time that Russell pops up is on a show with such a reach as The Breakfast Club and that he was unchallenged essentially throughout the entire interview. And not only was he unchallenged and allowed to perpetuate a lot of very harmful myths around rape and around the women that have accused him, but it was very re-traumatizing. It was a traumatic experience because we didn't have an opportunity to speak. There's been this huge vortex of silence around the film within the Black community, which in large part, I believe, has been managed and negotiated by him. He's a man with incredible power.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And so Russell is the Harvey Weinstein of the hip-hop community. Even prior to Harvey being convicted, Harvey had become a pariah because of the multiple allegations by so many different women against him. But those same standards don't apply to our community. But R. Kelly or anyone else that has perpetuated these types of crimes. Or Bill Cosby. Or Bill Cosby. We ride or die for them until the end. And I get that. We can get into that later. But just specifically why I've been so vocal is because there is a tremendous responsibility that comes with having the privilege of the position that your show has and at times the show hasn't done right by the community that it says it loves. And so in this case, it was just wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:50 It was just like, it just was just not a good look and it was painful. Well, I will say this, as soon as HBO reached out to me to have the women from On the Record on the show, I responded immediately and said, absolutely. And that was the first time anyone had reached out to me. And so because I had done, I may destroy you a campaign with that, with them, they had my information and hit me up directly. And so as soon as I was asked,
Starting point is 00:37:15 there was no question. So I believe that I would say the Breakfast Club is not perfect as I don't feel like any platform gets it right all the time but I know and I can speak I think on behalf of all of us that you know we do try to make sure that we uplift our community in many different ways and if things are triggering I do apologize for that because that's never my intention for that to happen and so that's why I want to make sure and I would have given you this space regardless if that interview happened or not it It was just that the way that it works, it's not that we reached out to anyone for an interview. People, in my rumor report. And we talked about Oprah when she signed on to do it. We talked about it when she decided not to do it. And then when it got picked up by HBO Max.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So while I do feel like a lot of platforms hadn't been even covering that this documentary happened, it was something that we have discussed and I have put in my rumor report as things unraveled. So I just want to put that out there for you. And I do want to talk about that since you brought it up with the documentary, just what happened with Oprah, because we've heard that she felt like the stories were conflicting and she couldn't sign on. She does believe the women she said, but she felt like there were too many contradictions.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So can you from your own space talk about what happened? Before I go there, I just want to say that according to our site, there was outreach that began at the top of May. Now, whether or not that went from the specific booker at your show, I don't know how many bookers there are. I don't know, but I know that the outreach had begun because we all know if there is a film, anything of any import, people want to go on The Breakfast Club to talk about it. We know if we want to reach black America, you come here, which is why Joe Biden comes on here. Presidential nominees. So, yeah, I just wanted to touch on that because there might be a little miscommunication there. But as far as Oprah's pulling out, there was a lot of reporting around the drama that preceded the release of the film.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And I get it. It's tantalizing. People want to know, oh, well, what's going on? Oprah said that there's some inconsistencies with this person, and you've got a campaign that's happening with 50 Cent, and Russell Simmons is operating on social media, and you've got people from other communities who are just diving in, saying this is just another attempt to take out a black man, and we can't let this happen.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But all of this is occurring, and to take out a black man and we can't let this happen. But all of this is occurring and people are forgetting, hello, there are survivors involved here and we're collateral damage. And so Oprah choosing to step back, that's her prerogative. I wasn't in the room. She stated in the New York Times, she said on TV,
Starting point is 00:40:24 her issue with creative differences, period. She also said that she believed us. And so I believe that she has a right to do whatever she wants with her money and with her platform. I also think it's incredibly disingenuous for Russell to come on the show last week and start to invoke Oprah like, oh, Oprah, Oprah, Oprah, she's so wonderful. When Oprah straight up-signing you, that's not fair because you also know Ms. Oprah Winfrey is not going to come back out to re-litigate something that's in the past. That's irrelevant. What's important is the fact that I saw one article for an OK Player,
Starting point is 00:41:22 a tweet about how our film almost became an urban legend one of those and and really it's been this very skittish road to get here because of the fact that there has been so much controversy so it was it painful yeah the whole damn experience has been painful since i chose to come forward going back in 2017. But that is the price that survivors pay when they choose to tell their stories, irrespective of how powerful their perpetrator is. All right, when we come back, we got more with Sil Lai Abrams. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still speaking with Sil Lai Abrams. Angela Yee got a chance to speak with her yesterday. Let's get back into that interview. And you can see the documentary on the record on HBO Max now. You know what? I've read a lot about what you've been through
Starting point is 00:42:20 and how Joanne Reed was supposed to interview you. And you had given her your story which she was writing and she was doing this sit down interview with you and you had to provide all kinds of receipts to prove that what you said happened to you did indeed happen and then the story never ended up going on air right and i know that had to be difficult. And then, you know, we're talking about your son sitting next to you. And that was one of the most heartbreaking scenes was, and I don't even want to bring things up, but I know for people who haven't seen it that are listening right now, you know, you did detail having to be taken to the hospital and kissing
Starting point is 00:43:02 your son goodbye because you didn't even want to be here anymore after that happened was was that the first time he had heard about that it was the first time that he knew the details and that's something that let me be clear i didn't tell i mean i told there were people who were present that day immediately after the assault. People from Russell's camp that came to be with my son. There are people that, my friends that took me to the hospital. And I never thought that it would go further than that. You know, what mother wants to tell their child about something that painful? Something that I still have a lot of mixed feelings about. But you know what? to tell their child about something that painful, something that I still have a lot of mixed feelings about. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:43:49 Sexual violence not only impacts the individual who is hurt, it impacts their families. It, you know, when we talk about the restorative justice model or the transformative justice model, the first thing that has to occur is for a perpetrator to acknowledge the harm that they've done, not only to the victim, but to the victim's family, to the community, and to the society at large. And you cannot even begin a dialogue of healing without first having accountability.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Right. That's what's missing in this, is that Russell did apologize to me at Moomba a couple of years later. And this is detailed in the Hollywood Reporter piece. He did. He said he's a changed person now right he said he's changed and he was alluding to being fully sober and also i guess having a
Starting point is 00:44:54 different mindset around what consent is i guess um but he happened to be having dinner with donald trump you know i mean so it's like, and I just stopped him. I was just like, first off, he blindsided me because my sister had died of a drug overdose a couple months before. That's what he approached me to say. I'm sorry, I heard about your sister. I just, she, Malai, was a really good girl.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And I was so raw, like like you could have knocked me over. And I was just so glad someone, anyone would acknowledge that my sister died of a drug overdose because nobody wants to talk about that. Had he not started with my sister, I would have walked away. I had nothing to say. But your question encompassed a lot. You mentioned Joy Reid, and I don't know, I'm not going to guess why, but I'll say that my story was vetted. It went through, it passed standards and practices at NBC. I have receipts. It was just NBC, as we saw with Ronan Farrow and other stories. They have their own ongoing issues within that news organization, how they handle sexual
Starting point is 00:46:17 harassment and misconduct. And Russell's attorneys strong-armed them. I mean, it went all the way to the top, to the head of the news divisions and of the company. So that's the power he has to shut something down. And so when, by the time I finally got to the Hollywood Reporter, the story morphed and it became one that was about how a Me Too story is killed. And that's what's unfortunate is that it no longer becomes something linear.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It's, well, why did you come forward? You know, everyone came out in November, December, and here it is, June, almost July, and now your story's breaking. Well, it's not my fault. It's because I got hemmed up. But the Hollywood Reporter had all the access to all of the same information that NBC did. And yes, they were pressured by Russell's attorneys and they ran it. They ran it and there has not been any civil suit.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And to Russell's point last week, I've never filed a civil suit. I've never wanted anything from him. But what I will not do is be complicit in silencing survivors, nor will I be silenced. Think about it. The privilege that I have, the many levels of privilege that I have of the relationships within the industry, of having a certain attorney, all this stuff that I have at my disposal is what allowed my story to end up being published after it was killed by one news outlet. And you know how it works.
Starting point is 00:48:09 When your story gets squashed at one news outlet, the bar is set double as high to get published with another one. And so, again, I keep thinking about all of rape is a crime that happens in private. It happens in the private sphere, but it's litigated often in the public. And so many victims don't have receipts. Right. And also, I think people also mistakenly think that because you cannot get convicted, right, after getting accused, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen a lot of people will say well the charges got dropped or it didn't happen and a lot of times
Starting point is 00:48:51 that doesn't necessarily mean the person is innocent you know that we as a people know that police brutality committed against black people is an epidemic. We know. Even if the media doesn't report on it, which it hasn't forever, it's only now because we have our own cameras and we're making the news through social media that people are really starting to see the extent of the harm that's been done to us for centuries. We know what happens to our people because we know how corrupt the system is and it's stacked against us. So we don't question
Starting point is 00:49:36 when police brutality occurs. We accept it as truth. But when a black woman says that she's been sexually violated, and when you look at all the statistics, we know it's a global women's health epidemic. It's all of a sudden, well, you know, she's lying. She wants something. She's a hoe. She was drunk. All of these rape myths are deployed. And I'm like, this is why I think in the middle of the movement for black lives that's occurring, why the death of Toyin Salau just hits right at that intersection of what we're talking about, about a black woman speaking up
Starting point is 00:50:29 and using her voice on a platform like social media to talk about the fact that she had been assaulted. And then the very person who she trusted to provide her some type of care ends up hurting her and then her body is discovered. There are parallels that exist in many women's lives where we know that the majority of crimes happen between people who know each other, whether it's domestic violence or intimate partner abuse, and especially rape and sexual assault. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Sila Abrams. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, yesterday, Angela Yee got a chance to kick it with Sila Abrams. Yes, Sil Lai Abrams has accused Russell Simmons of rape. And you get to hear what happened to her firsthand.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And she's also featured on On the Record, which is on HBO Max. Husbands can rape their wives. Some people don't feel like that's even possible, right? They'd be like, well, you're married, so that can't happen. But the truth of the matter is, I know women who will tell you that they've been raped by their husband. And then I think when that happens, it's difficult to speak up because you feel ashamed. You also know that people will say, well, you know, you guys are married. So if you've already had sex, you already have kids like I don't see how that's even possible but then when you hear the violence that
Starting point is 00:52:08 occurred and I think especially when it happens to somebody you know I think we all know a woman or women multiple women who have had who have been sexually assaulted and will never speak up about it or never tell their story I can't think of too many people who don't have a story to tell. There have been people who have questioned me because Russell and I had dated before. Look, I put it all out on the table. I had to say that. He and I had kicked it. Right, consensually previously. Yeah, it was consensual. And then it ended. You had a boyfriend. It ended and we were supposed to be
Starting point is 00:52:48 friends forever according to him and so like last week when he's talking about all his friends how he's still friends with all these women I'm like well I was your friend I trusted you and now we're not friends because you violated me and you destroyed our friendship and that is something that is still hard to wrap your head around you know years later I think about my time working in entertainment and in media, and I think hearing all of the horror stories, to your point, that many women share privately but will never share publicly, I'm lucky it was only two men. When you think about all of the allegations that have come up and all of the conversations and the whisper talks that we have I think that media outlets, by at least providing an opportunity to hear the voices of survivors, can level the field. How does it feel then that people still legally have to say allegations? Because as you know,
Starting point is 00:54:21 Russell Simmons is saying he took a lie detector test. He hasn't been charged with anything. And so legally it still is considered allegations. Is that bothersome to you to have, uh, how many women have come forward so far? I mean, it depends upon what you're talking about. I believe it's six or seven who publicly accused him of rape. And then the rest are various forms of sexual misconduct and harassment, which I guess in total is 20. I mean, as far as allegations, news media has got to cover their behind. Right, because legally you can't get sued if you don't say allegedly. Allegedly, right. can get sued if you don't say allegedly allegedly right and so you know i have accused him publicly
Starting point is 00:55:09 of assault and so i don't have an issue with the fact that people say allegations what i have a problem with is when your identity as a survivor becomes secondary to that of your perpetrator, simply because he is famous, even around everything that happened last week, it was, you know, Russell Simmons, rape accuser, last breakfast club. And I'm like, I have a name. And if you go back, I have an identity. I have professional bona fides. I'm not just an accuser.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Don't minimize and marginalize me and tie me into the headline of who this man is because that was a big part of my decision not to include his name in my first book because I explicitly outlined what happened, but I gave a pseudonym in the book because I never wanted, because I'm painfully aware that there are people who think that the reason why I've achieved any type of success is because of the way that I look. And let's be real. I have certain
Starting point is 00:56:26 privileges that have helped make things easier, but you don't stay in the game just because you look cute. You've got to actually be able to bring something to the table. You have to know your as they say. And so with respect to my identity getting erased and all survivors getting erased like i get it it happens to people i see it all the time i'm just very sensitive to it because i remember the night before my story dropped i went on google and i screenshot i did a search and i screenshot my name and it was like rest in peace to Salai Abrams, nationally recognized domestic violence awareness activist, because henceforth, you're going to be built around the identity of a man that had hurt me. I did not want, and certainly not as a feminist, I certainly was not going to try and parlay this into any type of, what did he say? He said last week, he said to be famous or infamous.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Who the hell wants to be infamous or not for that not for that what do you want what could russell do now is there anything i want accountability if we're not able to navigate the criminal justice system because what happened between us is outside of the statute of limitations. And to be very clear, like, let me bring you back. I chose not to press charges at the time because I was drunk that night because of the fact that he and I did have a prior sexual relationship. And because I was terrified because of the imbalance in power and money between us and what happened in the examination room. So I was scared. Now, today, as a woman who is going to be turning 50 in a month. What does the grown-ass woman want? What I want is a chance to begin restorative justice.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I want Russell to actually stop the pantomime of being an innocent and truly acknowledge the harm that he's done and then start to make the amends to the individuals and the community that he continues to harm by peddling mistruths that he ends up contradicting himself on. So, like, just pointing to the interview last week, he said that he misinterpreted what happened with Jenny. Jenny, mm-hmm. Right? And I'm like, dude, you just said, in essence, that you raped her.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Like, that's what you said, right? I mean, I guess I got my signals crossed. Well, if Jenny says it wasn't consensual, and you don't know what consent is, well, I'm sorry. That right there was an admission of some sort. Even in the case of me, a drunk woman can't consent. Right. It's my hope that having this conversation is an opportunity, to your point, to try and shift the needle and get something right. Right. By us having this dialogue on the heels of what happened last week, at least there's some context and I can't speak for the other survivors but
Starting point is 01:00:26 I can say that I am appreciative of this conversation and of this opportunity because you all have tremendous power and you help shape culture but there are parts of our culture that absolutely have to change. And letting people come on and not be interrogated on their behavior, that's not cool. That's not going to bring about any liberation. That's not black love. That's not accountability. And when you love someone, you hold them accountable. So I do appreciate you for taking the time to come on this platform.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I know you were on the board for the National Domestic Violence Hotline and you were on the board for Safe Horizon. So just so people know that there are safe spaces that they can go to if they do need to seek out help and support. Absolutely. And to call the sexual assault in the national, you can contact RAINN as well, which is the National Sexual Assault Hotline. I mean, there have been times where I've just picked up and called either one. I called Safe Horizon not too long ago and just said, I need to talk. Because the pressure of being, of going through something like this, I just need to anonymously speak to someone and just say, this is really hard. I'm having a hard time handling this.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And it's been 25 years. Right. Well, so much appreciated. And we will definitely make sure we stay in touch. And if you need our platform, make sure you let me know. All right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Thank you, Celia Abrams. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Selai Abrams. All right. Take care. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Will Smith.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Okay. Are you ready to watch Will Smith? It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them.
Starting point is 01:02:26 With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Okay, are you ready to watch Will Smith starring in a new movie as a runaway slave? Why not? It's Will Smith. Will Smith gets busy on that screen. Well, the new movie is called Emancipation. It'll be directed by Antoine Fuquaz based on a true story. And Will Smith is playing Peter, a runaway slave forced to flee and outwit slave hunters on his journey to the Union Army and his only chance of freedom.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Now, I've said I'm on record saying I'm tired of seeing slave movies. Yes, you are. Only because they show us, you know, being the victims all the time, which we were. But I'm intrigued about this one because it's based off that classic picture we always see with the brother showing the whelps on his back, right? If I'm not mistaken, I think I read that yesterday. I believe that.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I'm interested. All right. Well, that production is going to start early in 2021. Now, Will Smith is also starring in a Father's Day documentary called Dads alongside Kenan Thompson, and it will be available on Apple TV Plus June 19th. Even though I would like to see more stories of black liberation that don't have to do with slavery.
Starting point is 01:03:29 But yeah. All right. Speaking of dads, let's talk about Deja Harris. And, you know, I actually was watching T.I. and Tiny Friends and Family Hustle. And this is the Hyman Gate episode where T.I. made his comments about taking his daughter to the gynecologist and making sure that her hymen is still intact. Well, here is what Deja had to say she found out while they were on vacation in Mexico.
Starting point is 01:03:53 My heart sank. Very shocked, hurt, angry, embarrassed. I'll be honest with you, that he goes to the gynecologist with you to make sure that you're still a virgin? Yeah, he goes with me. What we want you to do is talk to him about it, man. I'm not going to be able to, like, really get through to him, like, connect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 He always plays victim, honestly. So, like, are you angry? I just don't really care to be around him right now. Do you feel like this is going to put a strain over it? Come on. No. This situation is just a little traumatizing for me. Yeah, I hate the fact that she has to relive that, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:30 especially being that she said it was traumatic. I'm sure it was. So I hate to see people have to relive trauma. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and there's certain conversations and certain situations you just want to keep in the household, you know. And I've realized that a lot with my daughter, too. And you know what, too?
Starting point is 01:04:43 I was watching it, and I did feel like she was, you daughter too. And you know what too? I was watching it and I did feel real, like she was, you know, breaking down, about to cry and he didn't really want to like apologize or approach her about it and ruin the trip and things like that. So it was very difficult to watch. Yeah, I just don't want my daughter's hymen to be your entertainment
Starting point is 01:05:02 because that's what it turns out to be, right? Like even if you're Even if Tip had the best intentions Which I'm sure he did It still ends up being somebody's entertainment Because it's on television You know what I mean? Yeah, but that's what happens when you have a show
Starting point is 01:05:15 And you talk about your family and your life so much But sometimes you don't realize Well, you do realize what's going to be Really hurt your daughter's feelings You know what I mean? I've been through that too with my daughter. I said some stuff that my daughter didn't like and I had to have a conversation and apologize to her. It is a process. Having daughters, I got three daughters.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Having daughters is like having a landmine, right? Because you don't know when you might step and cause something to blow up. And it's not like it was your intention, you know? Like, oh my God, you know? Right. And, you know, and I said this at the time, I think as a young, as a woman, and I know when I was a young girl, you know, we are very, there's a lot to do with women's bodies and you don't want to be invasive over things like that because that can affect somebody forever. So it's just really important to listen to women, listen to what, what your daughters have to say and make them feel empowered and let them know their body is their body
Starting point is 01:06:07 and they control that and have trust. You know, you have to be able to trust that you raise your daughters in the right way and that they'll make smart decisions when you're not around. And you don't have to check their hymen. All right, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. Jesus Christ. My God. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:06:24 All right. All right, Charlemagne. We're giving that donkey to you. We need Vice President Mike Pence to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a whirl with him. I also ask ye. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice, you can hit ye right now.
Starting point is 01:06:39 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Charlemagne, say the gang donkey under J. Charlemagne. You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Good morning. Bitches. Who's donkey of the day today? Donkey of the day for Wednesday, June 17th goes to the leader of the Trump administration's coronavirus task force, the vice president, and worst sidekick since Aquaman had Aquagirl, Mike Pence. Oh, yes, I come from the era of Aquaman being highly uncool,
Starting point is 01:07:17 not the Lisa Bonet, Denise Huxtable husband version y'all have now. I come from the era of Aquaman being a laughingstock and having a sidekick named Aquagirl who was killed off in a miniseries called Crisis on Infinite Earth and ironically, Aqua Girl drowned. You know how trash you have to be if your only superpower is being able to breathe underwater and you die by drowning? Were you ever really a superhero? Anyway, Google it so you can see how trash and pathetic her character was, and you will understand why Mike Pence is the worst sidekick since Aquagirl.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Now, Donald Trump is having a Klan rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma this weekend, the 20th, I believe. Rallies are a big part of Trump galvanizing support. He goes out, he tries his new stand-up routine for the MAGA crowd, makes a few jokes, tells a lot of lies, hands out a few false promises, and asks to see you in November at the polls. Well, that disease they keep downplaying, COVID, last name 19, has put a halt to a lot of those rallies,
Starting point is 01:08:17 so Trump has to get back out there and rally the Klan, okay? Well, the first one since the pandemic happened is this weekend in Oklahoma, and people want to know, is it safe? How do you social distance at a Klan rally? Now, masks are optional. All right. Even the hooded ones at Trump's rally, which confuses the hell out of me, because I've been told one of the main ways to stop transmission of the virus is to wear a mask. OK, what does the Trump administration have against wearing masks? Masks are actually great for the Trump administration. Number one, the MAGA mask would not only be insanely popular and a bestseller, it's so much easier to lie with a mask on because people can't see your face.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Being able to read facial expressions to detect lies, a MAGA mask will cover that up. A MAGA mask will hide that false smile Donald Trump does. You know that false smile he does just with his mouth and nothing else moves? MAGA mask will hide that false smile Donald Trump does. You know that false smile he does just with his mouth and nothing else moves? MAGA mask could hide that. A MAGA mask could hide the fact that sometimes people purse their lips to counteract the dry mouth that comes with lying. Okay, sometimes people blush when they're lying. Donald Trump does it all the time. That's why he turns bright orange. MAGA mask will cover all of that. Okay, a MAGA mask will keep us from reading Trump's facial expressions when he lies. So why are they against masks at his rallies?
Starting point is 01:09:32 I have no idea. Now, clearly, people don't feel safe about attending this rally for obvious coronavirus-related reasons. So Mike Pence, being the janky concert promoter that he is, decided to do what most janky concert promoters do, and that's lie to make people feel comfortable enough to come. Now, Mike Pence told reporters on Monday afternoon that numbers for the virus in Oklahoma had declined. In fact, he didn't just say declined. He used a word I have never heard T.I.R. Stephen A. Smith use,
Starting point is 01:10:01 and that word is precipitously. Did I pronounce that right, Angela Yee? Precipitously? Sounds right. Why are you going to ask me? Okay, please. Precipitously. All right, let's listen to what Mike Pence had to say.
Starting point is 01:10:14 President and I have both spoken to Governor Kevin Stitt in the last several days and even earlier today, and Oklahoma has really been in the forefront of our efforts to slow the spread, and in a very real sense, they flattened the curve. And today their hospital capacity is abundant. The number of cases in Oklahoma has declined precipitously, and we feel very confident going forward. Now, precipitously means very steeply. So it's really, really, really declined,
Starting point is 01:10:50 huh? Well, you know what? The celebrity in chief, Donald Trump, didn't use the word precipitously. I had too big a word for him, but he said basically the same thing. Let's listen. Well, Oklahoma's done very well. I just spoke to the governor. He's very excited about it. Oklahoma's at a very low number. They've done really fantastic work. But Oklahoma has been a place that I think one of the reasons we chose it is because of how well that because it's early, because of what a great job the governor and everybody else has done in Oklahoma. OK, both Mike Pence and Donald Trump say it's all good in Oklahoma for their Klan rally. Masks are optional, including your hooded ones. Well, they said this about coronavirus declining steeply on Monday. What is the actual coronavirus forecast in Oklahoma?
Starting point is 01:11:30 What is actually going on with coronavirus in Oklahoma? We're asking one simple question here. Have cases in Oklahoma declined precipitously? Let's go to KOCO ABC 5 for the report, please. In fact, cases have done just the opposite. Another record increase today. The one-week average now higher than it was back when the outbreak first peaked. Some suggesting could this be because of more testing?
Starting point is 01:11:55 In fact, total testing is down over the past two weeks compared to the two weeks before. Listen to that. The same day Mike Pence and Donald Trump said that Oklahoma is declining steeply. I'm tired of pronouncing precipitously. Listen to that. The same day Mike Pence and Donald Trump said that Oklahoma is declining steeply, I'm tired of pronouncing precipitously, Tulsa County sees highest single-day increase in coronavirus cases since the pandemic began. Pence and Trump absolutely need to wear masks, not just to stop the transmission of the virus, but to hide their lying-ass facial expressions, okay?
Starting point is 01:12:23 America is on autopilot. We've been on autopilot. We just freestyling. This is a game of rhyme antics. Whatever the last word is that was uttered, find a way to freestyle it. I don't care if it was corona, police brutality, protests. Now back to corona. Just pick a word and find something that rhymes with it.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I am tired. Okay, I don't know what to do in regards to corona. I am confused. I envy folks who are YOLO with it. I envy folks who don't believe in it and think it's a conspiracy theory and just be throwing caution to the wind and just be out here. But I'm not one of those people. I'm still in the house. Okay. The way my anxiety is set up, the whole family is still quarantined. We might venture out towards the end of this month to go to another state where coronavirus cases are spiking, and that's South Carolina. But I don't know. All I would tell Oklahoma and every place where cases
Starting point is 01:13:10 are spiking is this simple advice given to me by every older black person in my life since I was a child. Never trust a white man. That quote may be a broad generalization, but in the case of Donald Trump and Mike Pence, it's absolutely true. Please let Kathy Griffin give Aqua Girl, a.k.a. Mike Pence, the biggest hee-haw. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. Yeah, man. Never trust a white man.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Simple advice that could save your life. And also, too, I want to tell South Carolina, this Friday and Saturday, I'll be doing a free COVID-19 drive-through testing, okay, at Benedict College's Charles W. Johnson Stadium from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. This Friday, June 19th, and Saturday, June 20th is free COVID-19 drive-through testing. And when you pull up and get tested, we'll give you an essential supplies pack, which includes a face mask and hand sanitizer,
Starting point is 01:14:08 soap, educational materials. And you know why you can trust me? Because I'm not a white man. All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day. Up next, Ask Yee. 800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice. Any type of advice, call Yee right now.
Starting point is 01:14:22 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. What, what, what, what, what, what you want to know? Baby mama issues? Need some words of wisdom? Call up now for Ask Ye. 800-585-1051. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Come on, mom. Need relationship advice? Need personal advice? Just need real advice. Call up now for Ask Ye. Eat the bread. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 01:14:52 We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Ye. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is KD. KD, what's up, bro? What's your question for Ye? Really was really mad last week. My ex-wife, we got a divorce. We stopped staying with each other when we moved.
Starting point is 01:15:08 She's in the military. We moved to another state in August. That's when we split up. Divorce was done in October. And then last week I found out that she moved in a guy in December to live with her and my kids. And I just found that out last week. Whoa. How did you find out? a guy in December to live with her and my kids. And I just found it out last week. Whoa. How did you find out?
Starting point is 01:15:30 I found out by, because in our divorce years, and our decree is that basically when you were in a relationship or you starting one, that one, a background check got to be sent and we supposed to meet the person. Not approve of them, but just meet the person. And basically, come December, I saw a picture of her. One of my people sent me one of her Facebook posts of her taking a picture with a guy, and then my kids was taking a picture in the same area.
Starting point is 01:16:02 So I asked, I said, is this said, you got a guy around my kids, I haven't met him. And she was like, well, yeah, that's my fault. It was my birthday. I wanted to do that, whatever, whatever. And I'm like, okay, then we moved on. Two days after that, I go on her page and then go look at his page
Starting point is 01:16:19 on Facebook and see that he's taking pictures around her house. And then I asked her two days later, is this guy staying with you? Is she finally going to sit there and meet that guy staying there? Then when this pandemic hit, because I'm working, I decided not to be around my kids because I used to have them on the weekends. I was like, no, she's in the military. She's not working.
Starting point is 01:16:42 They super quarantined. That's what I'm thinking. But find out last week there's a man living in the military, she's not working, they super quarantined. That's what I'm thinking. But find out last week, there's a man living in the house with my kids who's going to work, and she didn't say not one word to me. Wow, that's really, really disrespectful. Yeah, I don't
Starting point is 01:16:57 know what other way, I don't know what to do, because if that was, if she was on another foot, I would be all up in court. As soon as I found out that the guy even was around my kids, I met him ASAP, within five minutes. Okay, so you've met him. Oh, yeah, I met him. I wasn't mad at him because it wasn't his fault.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And then the guy didn't even know that I didn't know. He was like, bro, I didn't even know you knew. Didn't know I was here. Was she with him for a while before she moved him in? I do not even know. So legally, if you wanted to legally, you could take her to court for this? Yeah, and that's what I got to, like,
Starting point is 01:17:34 but my people was like, yeah, the Lord's just going to take your money. Right. I mean, look, so how do you, so, okay, so you don't have a problem with the guy. You just don't like the fact that she didn't follow what y'all had agreed upon. Yeah, she did not follow of me meeting the person. That's all I wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And I met him. I sold him my deal. He agreed. There was no issue. Well, at this point, you don't want to take her to court. You don't want to pay a lawyer and do all of those things and make this that type of situation. But she is definitely dead wrong. And you need to express to her, look, at this point right now,
Starting point is 01:18:06 you've done what you did, but this was not what our agreement was. And I'm not comfortable with how you went about things. And you need to have a conversation about that so that in the future, she's respectful of what she needs to do as somebody who, you know, you are a parent to those children as well. So you guys have shared responsibilities. And because you are respectful to what you guys agreed upon, she needs to respect that as well. And you need to make sure I'm looking for it because the main thing I would think is the children, right? It's not really
Starting point is 01:18:33 about her. It's about you making sure your children are safe and that you know what's going on in their lives. And you need to let her know that. Yeah. And I've done that. My thing is that this is not like the first incident that she just do what she wants. The problem is that she do whatever she wants. That's zero consequences. Maybe this is something that you need to just make sure that you document so that in the future, and let her know, be like, look, I am documenting these things, and the next time that something like this happens, I will take you to court.
Starting point is 01:19:02 She's a military fighter. Call her for sure. Hopefully they, I mean, that scares military people for some reason. I don't know why. Right. I would consult with a lawyer, not that you're going to take her to court right now, just so that you know what your options are. And then if there's some way that you can go on the record so that you have all of these things,
Starting point is 01:19:18 even if you send her an email, just detailing everything and letting her know, I have an issue with you violating what our agreement was. These are the things that you did. And I'm giving you right now warning that if you do something else without following what we agreed upon, then I will pursue a legal recourse. I would do that. So that way you have it documented and that if she does something else, she knows that there will be some repercussions because it feels like
Starting point is 01:19:43 there's no repercussions. So she's just going rogue. Yeah. All right. Good luck. Thank you, brother. All right. Ask Yee.
Starting point is 01:19:51 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice, hit Yee right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 01:20:07 We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? I want to remain anonymous. All right, bro, what's your name? You almost said your name. I'm just joking. I'm just joking, man.
Starting point is 01:20:20 What's your question for Yee, bro? All right, I'm a male, about 33 years old. I was in a situation. I was listening to Miss Abrams this morning, too, live. And, you know, she had been in a situation where she, you know, she was intoxicated and taken advantage of, allegedly. And I had the same situation happen to me, and I got a child by the mom. And I never, well well I spoke about it to
Starting point is 01:20:45 people in my circle even my wife she doesn't you know never believed me I mean she kind of takes it lightly um you know men men being raped uh just isn't you know heard of a lot and um I was just wondering like what could I do it's been since 2012 and I was just wondering what could I do uh in that situation like I never wanted to, you know, press charges or anything. And I was intoxicated, possibly drugged. I'm not sure, you know, but I just kind of let it go, especially with me having a child. It's just something that's always stuck with me. You know what? I think that it is important for you to be able to express yourself because, yes, this can happen and does happen to men as well.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And I do feel like there are spaces that you can go to to speak your truth. That's a safe space so that you can express yourself. And that's important to be able to do. Like Safe Horizon is someplace that you could actually go to. Also RAINN, R-A-I-N-N. You should speak with them. That's the nation's largest. Anti-sexual violence organization. And they're available by phone.
Starting point is 01:21:52 They're available online. You can talk to them also. And it is so important for you. To be able to express yourself. And get the proper tools that you'll need. Because you don't even know how this is affecting you. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:05 So look that up. Right. Okay. Okay. I got it. So look that up. RAINN.org. That's R-A-I-N-N.org. Because I want to make sure you have the proper tools to deal with this and to be able to express yourself. And, you know, I do appreciate you for calling us this morning because I know you're right.
Starting point is 01:22:21 They don't discuss this too often with men. Right. And I appreciate that. SafeHorizon and Rain.org. And, you know, I appreciate that. It took a lot for me to call in. I'm kind of nervous now. Just speaking out about it, you know. Right. Well, I'm glad you listened to Asil Lai's interview. And I'm glad that you felt empowered enough to be able to call up and express yourself here on The Breakfast Club, because we definitely want to make sure you have the platform to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:52 And I want to see you be heard, and I want to see you get the help and the tools that you need to be able to move forward and to know that it was not your fault. Well, I hope a lot more was. I was intoxicated. Right, it's not your fault. Well, I hope a lot more. Well, it was. I was intoxicated. Right. It's not your fault. Nobody should do that to you. If a person is not in the state of mind to be able to give consent, then that is rape. For sure. For sure. I hope a lot more people speak
Starting point is 01:23:17 out, whether it be men or women. You know, but I appreciate y'all taking my call and you know, I love y'all show. All right. Thank you, brother. Thank you. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Of course, ask E. Now we got rumors on the way. Yes. And we'll be talking about Lecrae. He has some things that he wants to get off his chest about the interview that he did earlier this week. All right. We'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Lecrae. It's time.
Starting point is 01:23:57 She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. So Lecrae ended up having a conversation with the pastor, Louis Giglio. I don't know how you say his name, Giglio, Giglio. And people were very uncomfortable with him in that interview when these comments were made about slavery being a white blessing. People thought that he was okay with it because he was sitting there and kind of nodding. Well, since then, Lecrae has this to say. First of all, I want you to know I wasn't okay with it.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Even as I sat there, I was very uncomfortable, and I was processing on like, man, what do I say in light of this? I ended up having a conversation with him subsequently, you know, right after we talked. And then I talked to him again last night and let him know my views and my perspectives. And obviously I wasn't okay with it. And we can't just be virtue signaling and doing this because it's the end thing to do to talk about race on platforms. And I didn't have any ulterior motives
Starting point is 01:24:54 other than to, you know, help and articulate, you know, some of what's going on in our world and in our culture. Now, I know y'all wanted to create a challenge, that guy on that. But the only thing to be said is the white man's blessing has always been black people's curse, but that's a,
Starting point is 01:25:08 that's a fact, but I can totally understand how a white person would think their white privilege is a blessing. I can, I can totally get why they would feel that way, but please remember that. The crate tweeted out the man's choice of words. Wasn't the best,
Starting point is 01:25:21 but I got his point. Who's putting their career freedom and life on the line. Me. If anyone has the right to be upset, it's me. Grace and love lead me, though he's learning. He's not shying away or silent, though. It's a marathon, not a sprint. And here is what the pastor, Louis Giglio, had to say. I, like so many, am so burdened about what is happening in our nation right now. And one of the things that I'm most heartbroken about is trying to help myself continue to learn and to help my white brothers and sisters understand that white privilege is real.
Starting point is 01:25:53 And in trying to get that sentiment across on Sunday, I used the phrase white blessing, for which I'm deeply sorry. Horrible choice of words. Does not reflect my heart at all. I don't, to be clear, believe there's any blessing in slavery. I mean, he also tweeted out pushback. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Yeah, he also tweeted out not seeking to refer to slavery as blessing, but that we are privileged because of the curse of slavery and calling it a privilege benefit blessing word choice wasn't great. Oh, that's what the pastor said? Mm hmm. Yeah, he's right. And I mean, that's all the crowd to tell him. Like, they look, your blessing. Yeah, he's right. And I mean, that's all Lecrae had to tell him.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Lecrae had to say, look, your blessing was a black person's curse. So, yeah, that was the challenge. But I would have just sat there and nodded my head. But maybe Lecrae was praying. Maybe Lecrae decided in that moment to pray for him right there. That's what I would have said if I was Lecrae. That's what you would have said. I was actually praying for him. Right there.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I was actually praying. When I was saying hmm, hmm, I was saying amen. him. I was actually praying. I was thinking, amen. Alright, well, happy belated birthday to Gunna. He got a really nice present. Young Thug bought him a Rolls Royce for his 27th birthday. Gunna posted it. That big
Starting point is 01:26:58 body Rolls coming. Young Thug, thank you, twin. Hashtag big. Yeah, that was the Rolls Royce. Gunna didn't buy a new car, though? That was a Rolls the old Rolls-Royce Cullinan. Didn't Gunna just buy a new car, though? That was a Rolls-Royce Cullinan. What'd you say? Didn't Gunna just buy a new car? Yeah, but he didn't buy the Rolls-Royce Cullinan.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Add it to the collection. But now he has another. Now he has one to the collection. Yeah. A $400,000. That's a really nice present. All right, for you fans of 30 Rock, 30 Rock is returning to NBC for a remote one-hour special,
Starting point is 01:27:23 and that's going to be happening next month. It will also double as an upfront special for the NBC Universal Properties. So that's going to air Thursday, July 16th. And it will feature the return of cast members Tina Fey, Alec Baldwin, Tracy Morgan, Jane Krakowski, and others reprising their roles from 30 Rock.
Starting point is 01:27:39 30 Rock's really funny. So I'll be interested to watch that, watch them working together, although remotely. Now, Tiana Taylor's Juneteenth album, that release, we've been discussing this, right? She's been putting out amazing music. And who's going to be on that Juneteenth album? Well, and it's called The Album. Lauryn Hill, Miss Lauryn Hill will be on there.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Missy Elliott, Erykah Badu, Rick Ross Quavo, Kehlani, Future Davido, Big Sean, King Combs Iman Shumpert and of course Junie will be featured as well no secret I'm a Tiana Taylor fan I think Tiana Taylor gets busy I think she's highly highly entertaining on all levels
Starting point is 01:28:19 the album is dope I got a chance to hit an album a couple months ago joint with Erykah Badu, joint with Rick Ross. Tiana got some stuff. What about Miss Lauryn Hill? I want to hear that too. The Lauryn Hill record is dope. I thought it was, I don't want to say.
Starting point is 01:28:35 But listen, once again, I don't know why Tiana Taylor musically doesn't connect with people the way that she should. Because the music is always there. I have to say it's a label problem. I just have to. I have to say it's a label problem. And even as an entertainer, just her dancing, her videos, her presentation is amazing.
Starting point is 01:28:56 But even like I said, this song that just came out, I love. You know, the We Made It song. I think it's a great song. This is perfect for the times. I don't know why it hasn't been pushed the way it shoulduation. I think it's a great song. This is perfect for the times. You know what I mean? I don't know why it hasn't been pushed the way it should be. I don't know. I think they should have gave Teyana Taylor money to do like an hour-long movie,
Starting point is 01:29:12 like how Beyonce did Lemonade, because Teyana's a beast with the visuals. You know what I mean? Do something like that, put the music together, and maybe it would have been received differently. But we'll see you on Friday. The album comes out Friday. Let's go get that. Let's support Teyana Taylor, people.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Absolutely. All right. And lastly, Eva Marcell is leaving The Real Housewives of Atlanta after three seasons on the show. She did make the announcement yesterday. And she said she does appreciate the bond of friendship I've made with my castmates and strong personal relationships I have with numerous execs and producers at Bravo. And she's thankful for the opportunity. So she's not on there anymore. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:44 I don't know why she would come back anyway. I'm sure Nene's happy about that because Nene doesn't like her. Yeah, I don't know why she would come back anyway because all they did was bully her the whole season that I seen her on. It's a lot. Yeah, they bully her. I'm sure that's stressful. She don't go through that stress, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:29:59 All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Report. All right. Thank you, Miss Yee. Y'all really trying to silence black women which me i'm not gonna report that i'm not gonna report that aunt jemima quit aunt jemima is tired of just being on y'all pancakes aunt jemima tired of working for y'all every morning okay whenever you want pancakes you just grab her and spread her on pancakes
Starting point is 01:30:19 don't sit don't don't don't don't even ask if she wants to be on the pancakes yeah what it says here is that quaker oats is retiring it because its origins are based on a racial stereotype. That's right. Aunt Jemima deserves a break. She deserves to be retired. Okay. It's based off a song. Old Aunt Jemima from a minstrel show performer and reportedly sung by slaves.
Starting point is 01:30:42 So who they going to put on the box now? I don't know. Are you trying to buy for that position? What if they put a white person on the face of the box and then they call it a white name? Would you still eat it? It wouldn't taste the same. That syrup won't have no flavor. It doesn't have to have a face on it.
Starting point is 01:30:58 It doesn't have to have a face. Right? It's just syrup. All I know is nobody's free until Ms. Butterworth is free. Okay? Oh, my goodness. All I know is nobody's free until Ms. Butterworth is free. Okay? Oh, my goodness. All right. Well, up next is the People's Choice Mix.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Get your request in right now. It's Kendrick Lamar's birthday, so we start the mix off with some Kendrick Lamar. Happy birthday to the God MC, Kendrick Lamar, leader of the new school when it comes to these rappers over the past 10 years. I don't care what nobody says. Drop on the Clues Bonds with Kendrick Lamar. Happy birthday. I really appreciate that man's music. That man created a soundtrack for this moment that we're in five, six years ago. When did the Pimple Butterfly
Starting point is 01:31:34 come out? I don't remember. About four or five years ago. Get it, Kendrick. That's my guy. I love Kendrick Lamar. Let's get into that mix now and also Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. That's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee,. We'll see you tomorrow. That's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Now, shout to Sil Lai for joining us this morning. Yes, such an important conversation. And it really did inspire someone to call in for Ask Yee. He remains anonymous, but he said that hearing her story inspired him. And I hope that that was inspirational for a lot of people to be able to feel like they can start to seek the help and the healing that you know that you need and to feel empowered to speak up. I want to say God bless Sil Lai. I've never met her. Don't know the sister, but I am definitely going to pray for her today. I wish her the best and I hope she finds the healing that she deserves.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And I just want everybody out there to know that the Breakfast Club will always be open for anyone, especially black people, who have something to say. Because there are three sides to a story, and if we can get all three sides, I welcome all three sides. Even if the person only wants to speak to one of us, I am fine with that. But I do, I must say, Sil, I highly disagree with you thinking Russell shouldn't have been on the show. The same way I would disagree with someone thinking you shouldn't be on the show. You know, if accusations are being made, people have a right to make those accusations and people have a right to reply to those accusations as well. So I'm sending you nothing but positive love and light, Sil Lai,
Starting point is 01:33:06 even if you wish me the opposite. Well, she doesn't wish me the opposite. I don't think so. I want to make sure that people are also just making sure that you show love to Sil Lai for everything that she's had to go through. If you watch On The Record, and make sure you do. It's on HBO Max. It's out and it's available now for you to watch On The Record.
Starting point is 01:33:25 She actually went through a lot, and she did try to take her own life. And she did even kiss her son goodbye. And fortunately, you know, she went to the hospital and was able to recover from that. But I know it's still a lot of healing that has to happen. And it's an ongoing process. But I'm glad that we were able to give her a safe space where she could tell her side of the story. Right. And you can see the full interview on.
Starting point is 01:33:50 No, I heard you say that this morning about how still I tried to take her on life. And, you know, as a, as a person who just had a friend commit suicide, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:58 last week, Jasmine waters. Yeah. I want everybody to get the healing they deserve. You know, you never know what people are going through. You never know what, you know, traumas people have experienced that, you know, they still have those pain bodies about.
Starting point is 01:34:11 So, you know, I wish Syl lie nothing but the best. And I see people on Instagram saying, you know, she sounds bitter. If you've been through what she's been through, you probably would sound like that, too. And I wouldn't call that bitterness. I would just call that hurt and anger and pain. And she has every right to feel that. And one thing I will say that she said in the interview that really struck me was the fact that giving up that anonymity that she had before when she had discussed this in books and she hadn't named Russell Simmons. And now, you know, people are taking away her name and just calling her Russell Simmons accuser
Starting point is 01:34:46 or the woman who accused Russell Simmons of rape. And I can, you know, we have to sympathize with the fact that she was out here successful, writing books, you know, winning awards, essays, and doing the work already, working with Safe Horizon, working with the National Domestic Violence Hotline and all of that. And, you know, just to have
Starting point is 01:35:08 to give up her identity in order for her to come forward, just make sure that when you discuss her, her name is Silai Abrams. She had something to share and to talk about and make sure that her voice is heard and her identity is always known. And this platform is open
Starting point is 01:35:24 for people like her. Absolutely. Alright, and you can hear the full interview on our YouTube page right now. So definitely click the link and definitely listen to that. Alright, now when we come back, we got the positive note. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy
Starting point is 01:35:40 Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne, you got a positive note for the people. Yes, the positive note is simply this. It's just more of a reminder. It's kind of like an affirmation I put on my social media this morning. For everybody out there, man, that's just trying to heal from their emotional trauma, grow a business that's changing the world,
Starting point is 01:36:00 be the best person that you can be for the people you love, forgiving the people who hurt you, be for the people you love. Forgiving the people who hurt you. Eating right. Exercising. Meditating. Just keep growing and working hard to be the first in your family to break generational trauma patterns. Okay? Stay on your path. That's all. We're all finished or y'all done?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka-stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-a-stan. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 01:36:59 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

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