The Breakfast Club - SNS Interview

Episode Date: April 9, 2015

SNS stops through to discuss dropping the Lil' from his name, brining MCs back and how he's grinding independently. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Real people, real celebrities, real talk talk join the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club special guest with us in the building harlem's top spitter no one better than him harlem's top spitter no one better than him that's the symbol of how we're looking for pick up the pen can't take me to school To flow Ferris Stay fairness And I live it They just talk about the game

Like Skip Bayless They just want cars Jewels Girls Or no falls Me I want trophies And my name to be on Forbes The EP is here

So rappers get your act together Nice as MC in New York Is the 19th letter Envy I'm only giving you The game that was passed on Some of us is locked down Some of us is passed on Gotta do what I gotta do Got one life to live not trying to die in the general hospital i'm from

where young as carrie blades moving duncan pentahewes good grade only surveys no interviews a lot of rappers want my spot a second time here got the breakfast club looking like ah hop good morning see that's how a rapper is supposed to start off an interview he shut me down we bringing mcs back man we ain't even rappers no more we bringing mcs back i remember That's how a rapper Is supposed to start off An interview He shut me down He shut me down We bringing MC's back man We ain't even rappers no more We bringing MC's back I remember you had a tweet

One time before Cause I keep Up on the breakfast call Y'all my favorite so I remember you told me Y'all said It's a lot of rappers And not enough MC's

So you know I'm just bringing that back man I feel like I need to do that What made you drop the little Cause you taller than everybody now? That. And I remember I was in a 40-40 with 2 Chainz. And this was like my third time seeing him and introducing him.

My boss introduced me to him. He's like, why is your name Little S&S? You might. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I just felt it was only right. And then I'm older now. You know what I'm saying? I'm older and I'm taller

So, you know, I got to get away from this. Does it cause confusion? Oh, like you you might be on the bill and they'd be like, yo, man, you spending the night You know sometimes sometimes that happens But you know, uh as I as I grow and as I do things and people see me off my father's Instagram on my own Instagram They see the difference and I just you know I'm gonna tell him um he was he was he was his name start with an S for me so when he was growing up they used to have they used to call him like skinny shampoo stupid sham or stuff like that and then they sure he. He was skinny. He was my size. I was him. Yeah, he was my size.

That's why I'm running and stuff like that now. My mom's telling me, all right, you keep eating like that. You know your father was that size. He's like, yo, listen, I'm walking now. I'm running now.

You know what I'm saying? But they shortened it down and they would call him SNS and things like that. You know, he just kept it going. Strive and succeed. Strive and succeed. Okay, I saw you putting it out there that you went to Diddy to get on Harlem.

Oh, that was like a couple hours ago. Yeah. So have you had any conversations? Nah, I'm just putting it out there, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like, Yeah, it's Harlem You know And I just feel like He on that

He on that What's his album called? Money Making Mid I think that's what it's called It's the Triple M You know what I'm saying? You know, so I just wanna give him

And I seen the I seen the special yesterday He was looking real Looking real 88-ish You know what I'm saying? So I just, you know I think he'll be And no one talks slick like Diddy So, you know Special yesterday. He was looking real 88-ish. You know what I'm saying? So I just, you know, I think he'll be. And no one talks slick like Diddy, so I feel like it's only right.

I think he's going to be. Didn't he say he was doing some production for one month only or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was seeing that too. You know what I'm saying? I know I'm probably not at that level yet, but you know, I'm going to keep grinding. I ain't got no problem working hard, so. How many favors does Pops call in for you? It seems like you be out here on your own working. I'm gonna keep grinding. I ain't got no problem working hard, so. How many favors does Pops call in for you? It don't seem like,

it seem like you be out here on your own working. Yeah, like, I don't, I don't, we, he'll do it just because, you know, he want to see me win and stuff like that. Sometimes I tell him, yo, you don't need to do all that. You don't need to do all that. Do he play your song when you walk in the club? No.

No. You know what's so crazy? I make, when people ask, when people come and they see me, they be me, they be like, yo, why your pops ain't playing your record? Damn, pops. No, I'll let them, he'll play my records after I let them tell him.

I don't say, yo, play my records. You got to go press him. I'll let them tell him. See, the OG answer is, why you don't play your son's records? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because that's what called me to play the records. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I play the records. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I play his records, but sometime at that time when it's like, when it's too much going on, I stick to, like as a DJ, you gotta be to the point at the exact time.

Sometimes you gotta do. There's a time to break records, there's a time to just stick to the hits. And you gotta pay bills, so you know you gotta come and do what you gotta do. So it's like, when it's time, when I feel like it's an entertainer in the building and I need him to get that variety, then I'll play his record four or five times, but I'll sandwich it between two hot records. So that's how you break records, DJs,

if you really want to know. You sandwich it in between two hot records and you can play as long as you want to. The attention span for people that's in the club are very short, so when they hear a record a lot they're like what is this after why are they gonna rock so especially if the song is hot right then the next record comes then they'll might not forget about it but then they'll just be happy

when they won't be mad but you can't come with a whack record after that so you gotta be right so all these artists that try to come up to you in a club and try to get you to play a record does that ever work yeah sure okay i want to let them know what approach to take. Oh, you know, well. Don't say pay, you ass. Why not? Okay, fine. You're not on the radio.

Why not? You can do that. Yeah, okay. Listen, listen, listen. Let me tell you two. Spend some money. Guys want to hear their records spun in prime time. If I have a report with you, I'll play your record, you know what I'm saying,

many times, depending on the crowd. I tell everybody this. It's a perfect formula. I see Migos do it, and they won, and they're who they are right now because of it.

Came in the club 100 deep. You feel me? 100 deep. They bought 100 bottles. Now, I say everybody got to do that, but the perception rules the game. Came in the game 100 deep. Gave the DJ some paper.

He played Versace before Drake even jumped on it. Before anybody knew what it was. Played Versace. You know the VIP, you see 100 guys

going crazy for a record. A DJ gonna say, oh my God, what's this? I'm gonna play it again. I'm gonna play it again. And they kept going crazy. I want to speak on that too.

Next week in Atlanta, that was the hottest record before, and that's where Drake learned it from. Oh, it was hot in Atlanta too. Next week in Atlanta, that was the hottest record. And that's what Drake learned it from. Oh, it was hot in Atlanta. I'm jumping on it. It was new flows. And that's what happened. I don't want no New York artist to think that you got to follow that trend, neither.

You feel me? What works for somebody might not work for you. You got to do what's designed for you. Everybody's story is not written the same way. You know what I'm saying? How somebody succeed is definitely not how you might succeed. So don't try to follow somebody else's suit.

No, not that. I don't want nobody to go broke doing that. Nah, it ain't about going broke. It's about... I just said that method... Because if a person don't drink and he in the club

and he just want to have fun... No, but it works with... No, you can just be in regular general population with the people. If you got 100 guys and you come 100 deep with a club, the perception, and as a DJ, we go by what the club, what the crowd does.

Right, what the reaction is. So if the reaction is great on one side, there's 100 of them going crazy, I'm going to keep playing it. I went to Puerto Rico one year. It was nothing but Bay Area. It was 150 deep. I was the only DJ out there with Bay Area

records. So when I'm playing and they're going crazy, I'm going to keep playing until they stop, until they get tired. That's just the perception of the party. And when you went to the club and you played your record and your team was 11 deep. I ain't do it for the

to get the records to get played and I did it because I had fun. But you built the perception. Yeah, you feel me? But I don't want it for the records to get played in there. I did it because I had fun. But you built a perception with Sussman. Yeah, but I don't want nobody to think that, yo, you got to come to the club and you got to buy a whole bunch of bottles because then you buying bottles and now you ain't. And then you come now. You could have used all that money that you used to buy all these extra

bottles and all that stuff and put it, invest in yourself. And if you use it for a wagon, it don't matter anyway. Exactly. And then somebody's just going to play it for a favor, just play it real quick. You know what I'm saying? And then off to the next record. You spent all them bottles for nothing. Can you write that off?

I mean, no. You just bought all the bottles. It's a marketing. Well, this is what you need to do from now on. Pops, I need some money for perception. I need a couple stacks because I'm going to this club. I need perception do from now on Pops I need some money for perception I need a couple stacks Cause I'm going to this club Nah we good

I don't be needing none of that Instead of doing that We just went We just went independent Nah listen This is what we did You feel me We did

This is what we did We Got tired of We got tired of feeling like you have to wait for a label to go move how you want to move you know i'm saying and that's not how that i'm not slowing down my career to don't get me wrong i always i always i love the culture like and it's not even just for my pop situation. I really love this culture. You know what I'm saying?

I think I'm one of the last guys that love this culture. Everybody else is just doing it for a change. It's a couple of artists out there that love the culture, you know what I'm saying? But it's not a lot of them. You know what I'm saying? I'm just one of those guys from New York that love this culture. You know what I'm saying? So I do it for a different thing.

So me, I love music. I'm going to keep doing music. You know what I'm saying? And I always dreamed about, you know, signing to like a Def Jam or something or being one of those, you know, historic rappers that did parts of that. You know, when you watch B Street and things like that and Crush Groove and stuff like that, you see those guys that are, you know, great parts of that story. You know what I'm saying? You would want to be a part of that. But, you know, as time goes by and things like that,

you don't want to wait on that. And how the labels is now, they want you to build yourself up and do your thing, and then they come back and just collect your check. And I think that's what, you know, stuff that Dame was trying to say when he went here. But as Kanye said before, Dame got a certain way of saying things.

He's from Harlem. What do you think about Dame saying some of the things that he said, that if you have a job, you have no dignity. If you have a boss, you have no dignity. I ain't, alright, I don't have no problem with, I don't have no problem with, you know, people working and doing their nine to five. You gotta do what you gotta do to get your

money, because at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, not everybody's cut out to, you know, be a boss.'s cut out to uh you know being both everybody doesn't even want to do that and but that's what he said some people are uh you know are safe with the security of having a job you know i'm saying people and that's and that's a true thing but i'm me myself i'm i guess i'm from harlem so i understand what he meant by you know me putting everything in yourself that's just how i feel like I feel like no one got me like I got me you know I'm saying he's my father and that and he's but at the end of the day he's a grown man and you know I'm saying I'm a grown man now so I can't always rely on him we have conversations now where I he won't he be wanting me to hold back

and wait on stuff and I'll be like dog I'm not waiting on you or nobody like this is what's gonna happen and this is not even your dad your dog on you or nobody. This is what's going to happen. Not even your dad, your dog. That's what he said. That's what he said to me. That's how we talk, you know what I'm saying? You from the era of Dame and Rockefeller. S has never really had a boss. As a DJ, you're

an entrepreneur. Well, you could say the club owner is the boss that pays you. Yeah, well, he said, if I pay you, you got to do what I ask you to do. So that's your boss for the night. Well, no. We're bosses because we still deflect on what we got to get paid. Your dog, if he pays you to do something and you don't do it, he's never calling you back.

But still, he's calling for our services. That means it's a job at that time. Okay, so if you have the same thing. He's just trying to go around the fact that you have a boss for that night. You want to say that? It's a Harlem thing. We get it. It's a Harlem thing.

You don't have bosses. No, we just, you know what I'm saying? It's just. It's a Harlem mentality. We like to put in. It's a Harlem mentality. We like to be our own man and do our own things. You know what I'm saying?

Me, just like now, I like to do my own thing. It's my first time selling a whole project. You know what I'm saying? Me, just like now, I like to do my own thing. It's my first time selling a whole project. You know what I mean? I got a couple songs on iTunes and things like that, but this is my first time. And my pop spoke about doing this a minute ago. SNS 19th Letter on iTunes. They Google Play right now. Go get that. That's a fact.

And it's been out a day before CIAA. And over 300 bars now. You know what I'm saying? We just hands on with the people. I know that's not a lot of bars to a lot of people out there. Oh, listen, listen. That's a lot of bars to me.

I ain't got no deal. I ain't got no major super. I don't have. Listen, I'm from Hartwood. That's a pop right there. I don't have. I don't have no deal, no super major cosign. We just working, and I don't have no deal, no super major cosign. We just working, and I don't have no problem.

I'm a guy that have no problem working hard. How do you feel about leaving New York and going somewhere else? We do that. We do that. We did our own promo tour. I went to Colorado. You know, I mean, some people go, like, move. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He moved out of New York. For people that think that my pops is out here trying to, oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no The fact that he can leave and go do other things, and that's what I want to do. I want to grind and get to that level where I can go and leave and do my own thing in other places. I do it now, though. You know what I'm saying? I do it now. I go out, and then I ask, yo, who's the hottest up-and-coming artist out here? Who they listen to?

What's the sound out here? You know what I'm saying? Just because I want to know because I'm planning on taking over. I'm planning on being the hottest rapper from your city. I might not even be from your city, but I'm planning on being the hottest rapper from your city. I might not even be from your city, but I'm planning on being the hottest rapper from your city. I say thank God the iHeartRadio went revolt. Because believe me, if it wasn't for them,

I'd be lost about having what's going on in New York. And me. Besides him. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm telling them what's going on out here. I have an old soul. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm telling them what's going on out here. I have an old soul. You know what I'm saying? I'm hip-hop to the core.

Who are your fathers? You have no choice. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? My mom was just a music head. My five rappers is Hov, 50, Kiss, Fab, and Cam. And Eminem is like sneaking. He's in there like

He's like the silent partner in there But those are my That's a solid six Yeah, that's a solid six You know what I'm saying? And I Those guys When you ask a rapper nowadays

Yo, how do you How you plan to stand out from every artist? They say the same thing Like, yo, I'm talking that real-ish You know what I'm saying? These Yo, I'm talking that real-ish, you know what I'm saying? These other guys ain't talking that real-ish. I feel like, yeah, okay. I expect you to

because one of my favorite rappers said it's only so long that fake thugs can pretend. You know what I'm saying? So I hope that you're talking that, but my favorite rappers was also nice at doing that. They had a clever way of putting their life story

in metaphors and similes and different things that you had to scratch your head on those and that's why they're great they ain't just great for talking that real ish because you could be real whack and that's just that you know i'm saying so you know i feel like that's what stands that's what's going that's what puts me aside from everybody else i know how to rap you know i'm saying i came in i came on rapping for a reason why because I watched my last interview I was a little nervous my delivery wasn't on point. You know I'm saying Now I'm confident because you know, I just know where I want to go in life, you know, I'm saying Me that's me that's all the way me.

Icy Gang, you know what I'm saying? It's the crew in Harlem. It's the crew in Harlem. Listen, it's the Icy Gang, it's the crew in Harlem, it's my movement.

You know what I'm saying? We got a couple, we got our own, everything is in-house. We got our own engineer, Rudy Rhythms, we got our own four producers, you know what I'm saying?

We got our own spitter, shout out to my partner, Rich Ice, and we also, last summer, we did our own spitter Shout out to my partner Rich Ice And we also last summer We did our own give back To the kids and everything It ain't just for us Cause when you younger than 18

You can't be icy And you can't have that movement I see wise I control youth That's for the youngins You feel me We gave out school supplies My mall's cooked out

On my block You know what I'm saying We gave out all types of book bags And everything With pens and all that It's bigger than block, you know what I'm saying? We gave out all types of book bags and everything with pens and all that. It's bigger than just me, you know what I'm saying? I want it to live on, and it's going to live through me. A lot of people don't get a chance to get to this platform, especially twice, you know what I'm saying? I just thank y'all for having me have a chance to voice that and give other guys motivation, you know what I'm saying? When they see it, they're going to want to do the same thing and grind and feel like,

yo, I could do this myself. You know what I'm saying? Instead of spending all the money trying to impress girls that's going to sleep with another rapper that's hot after talking to you. You know what I'm saying? Put your money in yourself. You know what I'm saying? And do what you got to do because only you got you like you got you.

You know what I'm saying? Prove yourself with them bars, man man 19th letter EP out right now on iTunes and Google Play I said um people judging me I guess I'm on trial again gotta go through bad luck in order to smile again for the front bottom to the top they got my game confused now it takes a rockin poet like Langston Hughes always dream to soon throw a party in my high tower residence They think I'm Steve Harvey Stand for my people like X King and Garvey And action figures dealin' with boy toys, Barbies To answer the question, do I grind?

Well of course Promoters always wanna give me the mics like the sauce Back pockets of the jeans, the shoes of a horse Kill a game when I give a whack, it could no remorse Damn, I'm colder ever since I got older Hoppin' inside a booth with more punches than Mr. Broner Got bullets the size of bottles of Coronas Medusa head on me when I'm smoking, I'm a stoner In my hood, you get your chain snatched

As soon as the hammer raised You don't get your diamond back for trying to be Atlanta brave Lights feel like X-Men when I'm in the streets I took the game by storm, shorty, I'm a beast This was in my jeans, haters can't stand it I play my cards right to blow up. I'm Gambit. Hood full of Wolverines. Grills with a saber tooth.

Carry Mac needles. Handle metal. Love to shoot. I'm animated because all my bars are contaminated. Demand your favorite artist to step up and fill the pavement. Love to smash a hated girl for response. Throw his ex up in the air like I'm trying to rep the Bronx. But I'm the Harlem Horror.

Cocaine is the marijuana. I got some sexy mamas. You got a lot of Juwanas. That's the Harlem in me. Gucci shirt. Nah, you know what I'm saying? Horror Cocaine is the marijuana I got some sexy mamas You got a lot of Juwanas That's the Harlem in me Gucci shirt now You know what I'm saying Alright alright SNS

We appreciate you joining us Harlem DJ SNS New York City We bringing MC's back You know what I'm saying All this lame rapping is dead You know what I'm saying

We really bringing these bars back That's where the home is at We wanted to hear your bars Thank y'all for having us. Thank us for having us. Congratulations on y'all newfound success. When I was here, it wasn't no revolt. You know what I'm saying?

So it's revolt is here. Shout out to Revolt TV. Shout out to Diddy. Envy, you got serious radio. You need to let me come up there and burn that mic down. Yeah, put him on the spot, Envy. You know what I'm saying? I'm ready.

You know what I'm saying? All right, tomorrow. Let's do it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Harlem. It's the Breakfast Club SNS, the DJ SNS. 19th letter.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not.

No country willingly gives up their territory oh my god what is that bull is listen to escape from zakistan that's escape from z aq is stan on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings.

It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can.

Listen to Haunting on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people.

We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.