The Breakfast Club - Stillness is Key ( Ryan Holiday interview and Latham Thomas Interview)

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

Today on the show we had author Ryan Holiday speak about his new book "Stillness Is Key" and more. Also, we had wellness/lifestyle maven Latham Thomas stop by where she spoke about high morality rates in black women, doula transforming and more. Also Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a Florida Judge who gave a 21 year old 10 day sentence for missing jury duty.    Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It's time! It's time! It's time! Time to wake up! DJing in Angela Yee and Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club, bitches! The voice of the culture. People watch The Breakfast Club for like news and really be tuned in. It's one of my favorite shows to do.

Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. They might not watch the news, but they're on Twitter. They're on Facebook. They're, you know, they're listening to The Breakfast Club. Get your ass up. Good morning, USA. Hey, fam. Hey, Angela Yee.

It's Monday. Yes, what a day to get the week started. We love a Monday. That's right. I had a crazy weekend. Shout out to all the HBCUs. You know, I go on an HBCU tour. So Friday, I was at the University of Arkansas Pine Bluff.

I think it's called a Pine Buff, which is an HBCU out there. And then Saturday, I was at FAMU in Tallahassee, Florida. And then I went over to Miami, did some work in Miami. But I was all over the place. So shout out to all the HBCUs. I do an HBCU tour each and every year where I try to hit all the HBCUs that I possibly can. I know I got Central University coming up. I got Hampton coming up, Howard coming up. I'm not sure what else.

Bunch of HBCUs. So shout out to all the HBCU students out there. And what about you? I'm in Detroit. And shout out to Cash Doll. I actually moderated a discussion with her during her listening session. That was on Friday.

Her album was supposed to come out on Friday, but it's been pushed back to the 18th. And I do want to say her album sounds amazing. Okay. It sounds really, really great. What I love about Cash Doll, she's really passionate. It was just a listening.

They were playing parts of the album, but she was really standing up and performing everything. She wasn't even playing. She wasn't just chilling, listening. She was just a listening. They were playing parts of the album, but she was really standing up and performing everything. She wasn't even playing. She wasn't just chilling, listening. She was performing. She was having a good time. Her family was there. It was a nice event in Novi out here.

Then, did We Run 313. Shout out to everybody from that. They have this running club out here, started by Joe Robinson and Lance. They do these runs. They do it on Tuesdays normally three times a week. But once I said I was coming out here, we decided to collaborate since I do the Run With Ye running thing back in Brooklyn. I collaborated with them out here and we did a We Run 313 along with Run With Ye. It was a crazy turnout.

Shout out to everybody out here. I'm at JLB right now. They had their whole street team come out. And it was a big deal. It was nice to see all these people running. Some of them were first-time runners. Dope. And some of them are pretty experts.

But it was a two-mile run. And we were running through the streets. Yeah, it's time to get my winter body ready. I got to start working on my winter body. What's the winter body? You mean you got to, like, fluff up? I didn't work out in the summer. So, in the spring.

So, I might as well go to the winter. Now's a good time to start getting ready for the summer. Yeah, I got to get back in. I've just been running so crazy. I've been doing so much with real estate and traveling and doing all this. It's just been a lot, but I got to get back in. I feel like I haven't been working out like I used to. As a matter of fact, because I'm not at home normally at home, I have juices all the time,

and I have stuff like pressed juices in the fridge and all of that. I haven't had anything since I've been out here, and I'm feeling a little under the weather, so I can see the difference. Well, we all can as a family. Everybody out there, we're all a family. Let's get back in the gym. Let's start working right. Let's start getting our body right, at least until Thanksgiving.

Then Thanksgiving, we're going to eat nasty and sloppy. Then Christmas, we're going to eat nasty and sloppy, and then we can start again New Year's. But let's get right for Thanksgiving. Get right for Thanksgiving. No, nobody else is with me. I think you should just be better in general. That's all. Just eat better, work out whenever you can.

Plus, I have that lip service tour coming up. I'm going to be on the road a lot. I was thinking, how am I going to work out? I guess that's a no. You're not going to go with me. No, I am. Okay, good. We got some people joining us this morning.

We have author Ryan Holiday. He'll be joining us. And also, Latham Thomas will be joining us. You're not going to explain who those people are, Yee? Well, Ryan Holiday is an author. I said that. You're supposed to go further with it, Yee. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that was my responsibility.

I didn't know where you were going. But Latham Thomas is a doula. She's been on the show before and she has a book out that she talks about basically owning your glow she's the glow maven so make sure you check her out but a doula is a person who helps with delivering babies but the whole process of it because we have such a high infant mortality rate and all kinds of issues right with black women in particular so those numbers are high so she's here to tell you

how you can make sure that you ask the right questions and have a nice, healthy and happy, as happy as can possible experience when you give birth. Okay, alright, well let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Well, there is a second whistleblower now coming forward, and we'll give you some information on that. Also,

Botham John will tell you about the person who was one of the key witnesses to testify he's been killed. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yeah, yeah.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. What's happening? Let's get in some front page news. Now, the NFL affiliate Eagles beat the Jets. The Green Bay beat Dallas 34-24.

Shut up. Green Bay beat the Dallas Cowboys 34-24. Shut up. You said that already. Oh, I'm sorry. New England beat Washington 33-7. Carolina beat Jacksonville 34-27. Arizona beat Cincinnati 26-23.

Houston beat Atlanta 53-32. New Orleans beat Tampa Bay 31-24. Oakland beat Chicago 24-21. Baltimore beat Pittsburgh 26-23. Oakland beat Chicago 24-21. Baltimore beat Pittsburgh 26-23. Buffalo beat Tennessee 14-7. Denver beat the Chargers 20-13. And Indianapolis beat Kansas City 19-13. I think you missed the score.

I was traveling because I was in Atlanta. I went to the Tyler Perry Grand Opening. What was the New York Giants-Vikings score? And tonight in Monday Night Football. Yo, come on. I need to know. The 49ers take on Cleveland. Think about all the listeners who might have missed the scores yesterday because we was busy.

What was the score of the Giants-Vikings game, Envy? I didn't even know the Giants played last yesterday. Oh, okay. Did they play? I'm pretty sure it was 28-10 Vikings. Yeah. I wasn't. That makes the Giants 2-3 now.

I mean, it don't mean anything. Just throwing it out there. Just want to keep people informed. Wasn't paying attention. So the Giants and the Cowboys almost have the same record. No. There's no such thing as almost having the same record. I mean, it don't mean anything. Just throwing it out there. Just want to keep people informed. Wasn't paying attention. So the Giants and the Cowboys almost have the same record. No, there's no such thing as almost having the same record.

I'll go with that. I'll go with that. No. What else are you talking about? We have a winning record. The Giants don't. All right. A second whistleblower

has come forward after talking with intelligence officials. And they are saying this person also has firsthand knowledge of some of the allegations in the original complaint

against Donald Trump and his dealings with the Ukraine. So there's all of that going on with this whole impeachment inquiry. So now they're saying that both officials have come forward. The whistleblowers have full protection of the law intended to protect whistleblowers from being fired in retaliation. So we will give you more information as that comes out. This is getting ridiculous. This person has more information. It's getting ridiculous because I'm like, I don't even know why they need whistleblowers when they've already confessed to every goddamn thing.

Not to mention Donald Trump stood on the White House lawn and not only said, should Ukraine investigate Joe Biden, he said China should too. So what's the problem? What are we talking about here? Right. The White House press secretary said that it doesn't matter how many people decide to call themselves whistleblowers about the same telephone call or call the president already made public. It doesn't change the fact that he's done nothing wrong. Oh boy. Just because you made it public don't mean it's right.

And in sad news, Botham Jean's neighbor, who was a key witness in Amber Geiger's trial, was shot to death in Dallas. Joshua Brown, he died at the hospital after getting shot Friday night. You know what? People were calling him a snitch. A snitch for what?

For taking the stand. Against the cops? Yes. But he really didn't say anything. He really didn't want to take the stand. They actually subpoenaed him and he was forced to take the stand. He didn't want to do that, but he's been in hiding because he's had some issues with people in the past that were

coming after him for retaliation for something else they felt like he was involved in. And it turns out that the reason why he really didn't want to be out there publicly is he was trying to keep a low profile. He had moved recently, and I guess that just put him on blast. And now everybody was seeing his face everywhere. And other people are saying that perhaps this was a good way because, you know, first when you heard

that he was killed in Dallas, you feel like it's tied to this trial in some way. Right. But they're still investigating and trying to find out who is the person that shot and killed him.

Well, if it's not tied to this trial, that's a hell of a coincidence. Yeah. The timing of that is very, very suspect. All right. Well, that's why he didn't want to take the stand

because he's trying to be in hiding and lay low from other people that were trying to kill him. They said it was some street stuff and that he was low because they didn't want the streets to know where he was, but be in hiding and lay low from other people. They said it was some street stuff and that he was low because they didn't want the streets to know the way it was, but they made him testify which told the streets the way it was, allegedly. Oh, so when you say that he was snitching, it had nothing

to do with the Amber Geiger case, right? It could have had something to do with a whole other case, right? No, they were talking about him taking the stand and Amber Geiger on social media. People were calling him a snitch for that. So, is snitching to tell on the police? I don't get it. I'm confused about that. I don't know. That I don't get it. I'm confused about that. I don't know.

That's what I'm saying. I'm confused. All right. I'm so glad I'm not in the street. All right. Well, that's front page news. Get it off your chest. I got way too many rules than we had when we was young.

Snitching was not as complicated as it was back in the day. This whole stuff is complicated. Snitching is very complicated. You can snitch on yourself, but then when you're doing it in court, what's the difference? They've been doing it on themselves all... I always thought that snitching was if me and somebody else are committing crimes together and we get locked up and I tell on that person to save my ass, that's snitching. Correct.

I didn't know that crime prevention, you know, seeing something and saying something was considered snitching. I'm confused and I don't even want to know. I'm so glad I'm not in the street. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent. Hit us up right now. Phone lines are open.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this.

Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.

I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?

Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.

You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know,

follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of

times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves, for self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.

You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?

Yo, what's up, bro? It's your boy, Mello. Mello, what's poppin'? Get it off your chest, bro. Yo, man, first off, I want to shout out to my guy, iPhone Sim. You know what I mean? He just got a new Samsung.

And also, I want to ask y'all a man, like, I understand we about to get ready to impeach Donald Trump, but are you ready for this monster known as Pence? Because he's 10 times worse. Why do y'all call up here repeating Twitter talking points? Like, you don't know if Mike Pence is going to be president. They might get Mike Pence up out of there

too because he knows about all of the corruption. And if that happens, then the Speaker of the House becomes President of the United States of America, and I think that's Nancy Pelosi, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, at the same time, what if he does become president? Now we got to deal with Thanos. Trump is an idiot, but he's actually a villain. Bro, stop repeating Twitter. mistaken. But yeah, at the same time, what if he does become president? Now we got to deal with Thanos.

Trump is an idiot, but he's actually a villain right now. Bro, stop repeating Twitter talking points. By the way, they got less than a... When's the election? Next year? November 2020? Okay. So impeachment's going to take well over a year anyway to actually get him out. So you can vote the whole administration out. Possibly next year.

Hello, who's this? It's LaFayette Love. LaFayette, you're a Trump supporter? Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter. Free Trump. I mean, you know, these whistleblowers, who knows if you're telling the truth. Y'all trying to get paid.

Y'all should be fired. They have transcripts. Huh? What'd you say? He admitted to it, my brother. Donald Trump has admitted to exactly what they're saying he did. No, but look, look, look. No, these are peace talks. He can talk to any president because these are peace talks. He can legally talk to other presidents year after year and talk to other...

Yeah, he can talk, but he can't try to get information against somebody who could be running against him for an election. You can't ask a foreign official to investigate a potential candidate, I mean, a potential opponent in a presidential race, sir. No, other people was asking questions about Trump and all that. Trump be joking.

Everybody in power. Trump be joking. I don't think he's joking, the Ukrainian president. All right, man. You got anything else, man? Yeah, free Bill, I mean, free Bill Cosby.

You know, that was wrong. I was about to say, man, what did Bill Clinton do? I met Bill Bill I mean, free Bill Cosby. You know, that was wrong. I was about to say, Dan, what did Bill Clinton do? I met Bill Clinton this weekend, man. Yeah, I saw you. Everybody was hanging out with him at Tyler Perry's. Bill Clinton held onto my wife's hand a little too long and I told him that. I said, yo, you're holding onto my wife's hand a little too long. And Bill goes,

you know, you know, Charlamagne, you should really want me to talk to her for like an hour because I'm old and harmless now. I don't know about that. That's what he said to me. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is DJ. What's up, brother?

What's up, bro? Get off your chest. Hey, I ain't telling you today, man. My wife told me that I ain't the man of the house no more. Who's the man of the house then? I don't know what you're talking about, sir. What did I miss here? She wanted to get freaky last night, and she explored my rear end with her tongue.

Oh, she explored your rear end? Oh, she ate your ass. Yeah, that's true. She ate your ass, bro. Anybody got time? You lost me with the she explored my rear end with her tongue. Well, he can say that. You can't say the other one.

Right. And I started to arch my back. It felt so good. And I let out a little moan. You know what I mean? Okay, we're not mad at that. Yeah, I want to be free, but... You want to be free? Yeah, she think I'm not the man no more.

Man, you know what you do to her? You say, look, I don't look at you no less because you f***ing my ass. You know what I'm saying? You still a lady to me. Yeah, and y'all mow during sex, right? Yes. I mean, what's wrong with moaning? Nothing, but I don't moan when I'm getting my ass hit. I'm going to be honest with you. But listen, you tell your wife, don't judge me, and I won't judge you.

That's what I'm saying. I want to be free just like she want to be free. You be free, bro. What else you want to do back there, bro? Because it sounds like this is a stepping stone for you. No, it just felt good. We just stopped right there. Nothing else.

I feel you, King. All right, bro. I feel you, King. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed we want to hear from you on the breakfast club hello who's this hey this is ken ken what up boy get it off your chest bro yeah um i'm really happy i'm alive um i moved to north kota about two years ago from Philadelphia. And, yeah, I'm living my best life. I just crossed the border this evening over the weekend. Went to see my sister in Winnipeg, and she's doing great.

She's got a kid. The kid is 20 months old. But the only thing is that she can't get the kid to eat, you know? And I really didn't have advice for her for that. What do you mean you can't get the kid to eat get his picky finicky yeah the kid the kid doesn't and yeah tell me you have three kids right yes sir you get a kid to eat to eat like you know regular food the kid only wants to take breast milk right and it's like you know she wants to win the kid off the breast milk so that the

kid can eat like regular food. But the kid just doesn't want to eat. Well, I got a one-year-old now. And I mean, she's exploring new things, but she don't like everything. She still like to be on that breast. You know what I mean? But she like things like the sweet mashed potatoes and, you know, things of that nature. Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's wonderful to get to talk with you guys. You know, I listen to you guys every day. Charlamagne, I'm so grateful for what you do for black people and for society and for speaking truth to power. And I want to encourage you to keep doing that, you know. I don't know anything else. Yeah, and Charlamagne, there are black people in North Dakota. Prove it. So one of these days you could show up here. Yep. I don't believe you. All right, brother. Yeah, and I'm telling you, there are black people in North Dakota.

Prove it. So one of these days you could show up here. Yep. I don't believe you. All right, brother. Somebody has to prove to me that there's black people in North Dakota. Hello, who's this? Dwayne.

How you doing, man? Dwayne, what's up, man? Get off your chest. All right, so Enzi, about a year ago, a year and a half, Hurricane Maria hit Dominica, right? And I put up a request for food and stuff on Instagram, and you retweeted it, and I really appreciated it because a lot of people came and bought stuff for the country. I'm just trying to find out, man.

Why is it that you've never been to Dominica? I'm just having it. My dad hasn't been there since he was probably a baby, and I've just never been. There's a lot of places I haven't been. How you didn't visit your homeland, bro? I just haven't been. You got to set that up, man. You got to set that up. You't been. How you didn't visit your homeland, bro? I just haven't been. You got to set that up, man.

You got to set that up. You got to go and see where your dad is from, bro. Yeah, I mean, I've been trying, but I just haven't had the opportunity yet. All right, man. So we definitely got to set that up. It's a beautiful island, man. All of you should go, matter of fact. It's all of me and Anangeline.

Okay. All righty. Try to make it out there, brother. Hello, who's this? Yo, it's your boy, Matty Ice. What's up? What's up, bro? Get it off your chest.

It's my birthday, man. I'm blessed to see you another year. Happy birthday. Shout out to me for your birthday. Aw, thanks, Angelo. You're so sweet. What's up with the rest of y'all, man? I'm blessed, black, and highly favored, sir.

He wanted y'all to say happy birthday. Happy birthday, bro. Oh, is today your birthday? Yes, he just said that. He just said it was his birthday. Okay, happy birthday. Happy birthday, King. How you feeling today? I'm feeling great. I want y'all to start singing, he just said that. It was his birthday. Okay, happy born day, King. How you feeling today?

I'm feeling great. I want y'all to start singing, man. Wake up. You want me to start singing? You ready? It's your birthday. That's all I got for him. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need

to vent, you can hit us up at any time. Now, we got rumors on the way? Yes, we are going to be talking about Damian Lillard. He is going in on Shaq again. I rest my case. Shaq got another one for him, though. Shaq got another one for him. All right, let's go.

All right, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk to Joker.

It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Yee? Well, Joker's opening weekend is amazing. They said it did way better than they thought it would. It made over $95 million domestically during the opening weekend, which is the biggest October debut ever.

Wow. I heard the Joker's incredible. I haven't seen it yet. We both, me and Envy, went to go see it. Like I said, I'm not a comic book fan, so I thought it was going to be a continuation. I don't know why I didn't really read up on it. I thought it was going to be a continuation, a kind of like Dark Knight. The Joker's up on it. I thought it was going to be a continuation of kind of like Dark Knight. The Joker's going to be bang, bang, shoot him up, but

it's the origin of the Joker. Once you get that, it's really good. I heard that. I want to go see it. I'm going to go see it this week. I heard they got security in movie theaters because someday they're afraid of white boys wilding out. Yeah, there were all kinds of people making threats and everything about going to the movies to see this, so they've had to

make sure that they have extra NYPD officers in New York City and in L.A. They canceled some screenings after they said there was a, quote, credible threat. All right. Damian Lillard versus Shaq. This is not stopping anytime soon, it looks like. Damian Lillard has another diss song against Shaq, I Rest My Case. Check it out. I think you're being kind of sketchy.

You should have left me sensitive. I almost confused you with Lisa Leslie. has another diss song against Shaq, I Rest My Case to hear it. Don't bargain with me for peace. Cause we gonna shoot it out till you bow or just never speak. I mean it. I'm not the one. I don't care about what you did. What you done lately. Don't tell me about what was then. When you was in your prime getting faded off fifths of hand. I was rocking J's and my pops was in Sadie Benz.

Dropping the clues box with Damian Lillard. What if Lisa Leslie isn't sensitive though? What if Lisa Leslie's emotional IQ is higher than him and Shaq? How do you think she feels about that bar? Jesus Christ. Not too great. All right, now Shaq has My goodness. Tampon string. First string that I gave you, son, I meant to rub you. I'm so mad, even God or Allah can't help you. Dropping the clues off of Shaq.

My goodness. Tampon string. I hate when that hangs out and you don't realize. Okay, let's be clear, though. I love Shaq, but these aren't even close, and I'm going to tell you why. I told you on this radio last week, it's NBA players who might have better flows, better lyrics than Shaq, but when it comes to making songs, I have never heard an NBA player make better songs than Shaq.

So if Shaq wants to beat Dame, he has to make a good diss record. A song. Not bars. Don't go bar to bar. Nah, you don't mess with Damian with the bars. Don't go off the bar with Damian. When it comes to bars, it's not even close. Damian Lillard is...

He's a rapper. Yeah. So you're giving that round to Damian Lillard? What round? Is what you're saying. I haven't heard... Everything I've heard... When would you just heard these two?

I've heard two freestyles from Dame or whatever whatever you call those, and Damian's bodied him. Like, it's not even close. Yeah, Damian's a rapper. It's not even close. Shaq has to make a good song. You know how when Drake made Back to Back or hit him up with an actual record? Like, Shaq has to make a record. Don't go ball for ball with him.

Let's talk about 50 Cent. He's producing a docuseries about Tekashi 6ix9ine. And according to this scripted series, it'll focus on Tekashi, Snoop Dogg, Scott Storch, Ray Fair Alston, and 50 Cent himself. It's called The Moment in Time. It's going to have six to eight hour long episodes dedicated to each subject. Why? So, yeah, 50's framing Tekashi's story about his very controversial and kind of brief rap

career. And also, you know, 50s been trying to get these movie rights for Takashi, so we'll see what happens. What is it going to be called? The Rat? A documentary in the works. The Rat Tamer? Rat Trap? I don't know. Snoop's episodes are going to focus on his murder trial, which happened when Doggystyle was

out. And Ray Farrar also is going to talk about him, his journey from being a street ball legend to the 2009 NBA Finals. Skip to my low. Those are all great stories. I would love to see all those stories. I don't think the Codger 6ix9ine deserves a whole documentary, bro. Not when you compare him to those people

we just named. It's still interesting though and it's new. It's relevant. I'm sure the kids will watch, but the fact the way he came from Yeah, it's like when they show all those CSI stories about cases that are happening right now. He was a rapper. He didn't pop. I believe he was a crip at one time

and then he went to blood and then everything behind him and then how it all fell down. That's interesting. IGTV. All right. Shoot the documentary and put it out on IGTV.

That's what Takashi 69. I thought there was a Snapchat one coming out. I don't know about that, but I know 50 is verified so he can put up the 20, 30 minutes on his IGTV. Takashi69, Doc, on IGTV. In the meantime, according to new legal documents that The Blast has obtained, he's asking the judge to expedite his sentencing

because he wants to start his prison sentence right away. He's cooperated, given up even more than he had to, so now he wants to hurry up and get sentenced so he can hurry up and come home. So that is what he's asking for. I don't think he'll get much of a sentence. I think he'll get time served. Well, he probably wants to know now he wants to come home. He was facing a minimum of 47 years in federal prison, but they're saying that will be drastically reduced.

Three to five. Imagine they still gave him 47 years. Amazing. That would be hilarious. That would be crazy. Oh my goodness. All right. I'm Angela Yee. And that is your rumor report. Give him 46. You can give him. That would be crazy. Oh my goodness. Alright, I'm Angela Yee and that is your

rumor report. In 46, you can give me I think he can get left in 47. In 46 years. They would never do that because then nobody would ever snitch again. You know what I mean? That's not true. There's a protocol. If you go do that much snitching and you still get 46 years?

Yeah, but if he was facing 100. So you're happy with 99? No, you're happy with but if he was facing 100. So you're happy with 99? No, you're happy with 46 if he was facing 100. At least there's hope. That you might come home. We got front page news next year. What are we talking about? Yes, we are going to be talking about since we're talking about people telling on people,

imagine being a mother and turning your own son in. We'll tell you what happened. Alright, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning everybody. It's DJ MV Angela Yee, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news.

In NFL, the Philly Eagles beat the Jets 31-6. Green Bay beat Dallas 34-24. Green Bay beat Dallas 34-24. You repeated that already. Minnesota beat, never mind, New England beat Washington. I24. You repeated that already. Oh, I'm sorry. Minnesota beat, never mind. New England beat Washington. No, no, no.

I need to know who Minnesota beat. I don't know. Who did Minnesota beat? I was flying all weekend. I was in and out of Atlanta. Who did Minnesota beat? The Yankees beat Minnesota. Let me look.

Hold on. Oh, it's right here. The Minnesota Vikings beat the New York Giants 28-10. Wow. Okay. The New York Giants 28-10. Wow. Okay. The New York Giants are now 2-3. Minnesota Vikings are 3-2. Alright. That means that the Minnesota Vikings have a winning record. The Giants don't.

You know who else has a winning record still? I don't know. The Dallas Cowboys. I really don't know. They stand at 3-2. I didn't watch. New England beat Washington 33-7. Carolina beat Jacksonville 34-27. Arizona beat Cincinnati 26-23. Houston beat Atlanta 33-7. Carolina beat Jacksonville 34-27. Arizona beat Cincinnati 26-23. Houston beat Atlanta 53-32. New Orleans beat Tampa Bay 31-24.

Oakland beat Chicago 24-21. Baltimore beat Pittsburgh 26-23. Buffalo beat Tennessee 14-7. Denver beat the Chargers 20-13. Indianapolis beat Kansas City 19-13. And tonight, the 49ers take on the Browns. What else we got, Easy? Let's talk about a mother who turned in her 17-year-old son to police

because she found some plans that he had in his journal. He wanted to carry out a school shooting on the anniversary of the Columbine High School massacre. Here's what she told CBS News. It's devastating. I know I did all I can do and that I made the right choice. How does that make you feel as a mom? Like I've done something wrong.

My son told them that he was into creative writing and that it was just a story. I don't feel like she did anything wrong. And the reason I don't feel like she did anything wrong is because we don't know, you know, what type of issues her son is dealing with. And parents have to be responsible for our children at all times. And to me, that's being a responsible parent. Very smart. The boy can get help now. Instead of going to jail for the rest of his life,

he can get help and hopefully it'll change his ways. Clearly that man needs some type of help. You know what I'm saying? And he can get it now because his mom saw something and said something. All right. Now Donald Trump had about 300 young black supporters inside of the White House on Friday. and he definitely was playing to his audience. Here's what he said. African-Americans built this nation.

You know, you're just starting to get real credit for that. OK, I don't know if you know that we all built it, but you were such a massive part of it, bigger than you were given credit for. Does that make sense? Well, he's right. But tell us something we don't know. He said, I don't know if you know that. Duh. I mean, maybe nobody in that room did because, you know, let's get compensated for it now. Like, that was a great

time for somebody in that room to bring up the conversation about reparations. Nobody's asked the actual president about his stance on reparations yet. Now, why were they there again? Donald Trump was just having like a mini rally. I guess trying to get some support. Just fighting some bros over? Yeah, just, you know. I thought it was a conference

or something. I thought it was a... Yeah, it turned into like a mini rally for him. No, I think it was an actual conference that he was speaking at. I remember. That's what I was asking. Well, yeah, it was at the White House on Friday. Okay. And so just never heard him say that before. All right, Bernie Sanders is feeling better,

and he released a video to make sure that you guys know he is okay. Hello, everybody. We're in Las Vegas. I just got out of the hospital, and I'm feeling so much better. I just want to thank all of you for the love and warm wishes that you sent to me. See you soon on the campaign trail. All right. So, fortunately, as you know, he's been having some heart problems.

What is he supposed to say, though? I like Bernie Sanders, but, man, when people have been clowning you for being old and saying you're too old to be president and then you have a heart attack and you've got to get stems put in your heart, that's not a good look. If you really love Bernie Sanders, man, and you think his ideas are good for the country, I think you would tell him to stand down. You wouldn't, like seriously, I would tell him to stand down. Being a president is very stressful. Being on that

campaign trail is very stressful. I don't think it's worth your health and you know, your life. That's just my point of view though. Alright, and a rest in peace and condolences to Joshua Brown's family. He was Botham John's neighbor. He's the person that was the key witness in the trial against him and

people are wondering how did this manage to happen just right after Amber Geiger was sentenced because his testimony was so key. So they are offering a reward to anybody who wants to help find out who murdered Joshua Brown. There is a $100,000 reward according to Sean King. He said my friend and brother Bill Perkins is providing $100,000 reward according to Sean King.

He said, my friend and brother Bill Perkins is providing $100,000 for the reward to help us find out who murdered Joshua Brown. He was a lead witness in the murder of Botham Jean and was shot and killed right there in his apartment complex. We will not stop until we find out who did this. Damn.

Alright, well that is front page news. Trump was speaking at the second is front page news. Yeah. And Trump was speaking at the second annual Black Leadership Summit. OK. Yeah, that's what that was. All right. Well, that is your front page news. Now, when we come back, author Ryan Holiday will be joining us. Ryan Holiday is one of my favorite authors.

He's real big on stoic wisdom. When I read my daily affirmations in the morning, I read out of his daily stoic book. I love his book. Ego is the enemy. Obstacle is the way. Trust me, I'm lying. And he's got a new book out called Stillness in the morning. I read out of his daily stoic book. I love his book. Ego is the enemy. Obstacle is the way. Trust me, I'm lying. And he's got a new book out called Stillness is the Key. Okay.

Amazing read. And Ryan Holiday is coming up next. All right, we'll kick it with him next. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on in. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

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It's okay like grace have grace for yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts morning everybody it's d It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. My guy. He's the author of Stillness is the Key, his new book, Ryan Holiday.

What's up, my brother? Not much. Thanks for having me. How are you, man? I'm really good. It's so hard to be still in this day and age. Yeah, what is stillness, man? And why is it the key? It's always been hard, right? There's this guy, Blaise Pascal, 500 years ago. He said, all of humanity's problems stem from our inability to sit quietly in a room alone.

That's before Facebook. That's before Instagram. Even before text messaging. Yeah. They did this study recently. People would rather shock themselves than sit alone in a room with their thoughts for 15 minutes. They'd rather feel physical pain than be quiet and not moving. You know, it's interesting.

Like the only time I feel like I'm disconnected is if I go jogging in the park. Right. But then I also can't do it without listening to music. I think music's all right. I think music's all right. But what is interesting is that's probably one of the best parts of your day. It is. Because you have good ideas there. That's when I come up with all my ideas.

Totally. And so what I was thinking about in the book and what I've been thinking about in my life, if those are the moments where I do my best work, why am I not building my life around those moments? Why am I just letting it happen accidentally? And so I want to be like really intentional about building that in there, not just because it's like spiritual, but because like that will make me better at life. Are humans really wired to enjoy the moment? Like it seems like, you know, worry about the past and the future is just inevitable. Yeah. I think we're,

we're the opposite of wired to enjoy the moment. Like if you think about it, like that inability to ever have enough to always want to do the next thing that serves us really well as a species that's why people go on you know explore new continents and why they you know a million dollars isn't enough they got to make a billion dollars so it's good for the humanity but it's probably not fun to be elon musk yeah you know what i mean it's a grind because there's never enough what about don Donald Trump? You think that's fun? I mean, he's got to be having the least amount of fun than any human being on the planet. I can feel that way about you in a way, though.

How come? Because you're always putting out books. So what I think about is like, I love the process of creating. And the published, finished thing, that's like, that comes out the other side. That's the byproduct. What I'm not thinking about as I'm writing is like, how can I publish this? How many copies is it going to sell?

You've got to love the craft of the thing. And teaching, I guess. Yeah, and having something to say. So when do you sit still? Do you sit still? Yeah, of course. He was just out there sitting still waiting to come in. No, so I got a couple things that I think are pretty practical for people.

So number one, I think you get up early. You guys obviously have to do this part of your job, but the benefit of that is like you wake up before everyone else, so there's less stuff happening. That's my drive to work. My drive to work is the best. A 45 to an hour, no radio, no calls, nothing.

Yeah. I tell people it's like wake up before your kids. Don't let the kid decide that the morning starts with chaos. Have a little bit of time there. So I think getting up early is important. My new thing is I don't touch my phone for the first 30 minutes to one hour of the day. I go straight in to whatever the main thing I have to do is before I see what Donald Trump tweeted while I was sleeping. See, my phone has my alarm on it. So the first thing I do is look at my phone

and then I see all the text messages I missed while I was asleep. So you're starting the day on your back foot. Do you sleep with your phone in your room? Yeah, because it's my alarm. So, I mean, look, an alarm clock's like six bucks. You're like, buy an alarm clock. I'll buy you one for Christmas. It's just so convenient.

Can't let other people set the tone for you today. Now, you also talk about envy and jealousy in the book and how harmful that can be. Yes, you, envy. You're harmful. Well, you know, the Theodore Roosevelt quote is, comparison is the thief of joy. If, like, you go, my job was to have a radio show. My job was to be a best-selling author. You get that, and you think this is awesome.

And then you go, but this guy sold 10 more copies than me. This isn't good anymore. It's the comparison that takes away the enjoyment of the thing that we earned. What I try to think about is like, I want my success to be defined by things that I control and then everything else is extra. So like, so this book came out this week. I feel like I'm not perfect and I don't think anyone is. I do care about the results, but I feel like I already took 90% of my winnings off the table before release day.

Because I know I put all the work in. I know I said what I wanted to say. I know it's the best I was capable of. And then so where it hits on the list, how many copies, what that first check looks like. You did your part. I did. And so my definition is mostly what was I capable of, not what this commit, like the New York Times list is a committee that it's not objective reality.

None of the, a Nobel prize is not an objective reality. None of this is right. And so I'm not going to hand my satisfaction and my happiness over to these people. I'll give you an example. My book, which I think is how we connected, The Obstacles Away, that book sold like a million copies. It hit the bestseller list for the first time five years after it came out. That's not an indication of objective reality.

Right, that doesn't make sense. And if you think about in history, think about all the super talented people that didn't get the awards or the recognition they deserve because they were black or they were Jewish or they were a woman. Like the idea that you're going to let success

be defined by people who have their own agenda is really sh**ty and not a good, sorry, am I allowed to say that? It's not a good idea. You're taking your happiness and you're handing the control of it to somebody else.

Do you have kids? Yeah, I do. I got two young kids. I got a three-year-old and a four-month-old. See, for me, and I don't know if Charlemagne feels the same, I look at my parents and I see them had to do jobs

that they necessarily might not have loved, but they did it because they had to support their family. So for myself, thank God I'm doing a job that I love, but I want to keep it in my family. I want to make sure that my kids always have the opportunity to do what they enjoy and not necessarily focus on the money. And I think that's the reason why we get stressed out

and it's hard for me to sit still sometimes because I always think of them. Sure. But what I kind of took from my parents that I think helps me in my job because I get to do my dream too Is it's like, they saw it as a job So I'm not going to be like Oh, I'm not feeling it today I show up and treat this like a job

Even though I love it It's work Yeah, it's work And how the ethic I bring to it Is a reflection of my character What's your journey been like to stillness? Because I'm sure coming up, you had your own issues that you were grappling with

to make you come to realize how stillness is the key. Yeah, I think one of the things I took is, I've been thinking a lot about is like, no amount of external success will make you feel good internally. So a lot of times, ambitious people, they're like, if I just do this, I just get this, like dad will be proud of me. But it's like you can't earn that if you don't have it already, you're never going to get it. Or you want to prove people wrong or you want to shove it in their face. Or you just think like if I get this, like I'll be worthwhile as a person. And that's where like the therapy comes in. That's where the mental health stuff comes in. That's where, so I've had to do a lot of work there.

And the other thing I've been thinking about is like, you don't make good decisions when you're just doing, doing, doing. Like early in your career, you got to say yes to everything. But there comes a time where it's got to shift. Absolutely. Because now you got more opportunities than you know what to do with. And if you don't do that, that's when you agree to that thing

that takes your eye off the ball and then someone steals your spot. All right, we've got more with Ryan Holiday. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee,

Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with author Ryan Holiday. Charlamagne? Could you tell people what Satori is? Am I pronouncing that right? Yeah, yeah. It's the...

Say it again? Satori. It's where you get in meditation when you get that sort of flash of insight. It's like when enlightenment hits. How do you get there? I think you get there with quiet. You get there with thinking. You get there with work.

You know, people think like enlightenment is this thing you buy in a box or you can take some psychedelic and you magically. No, like, wisdom takes work. You got to ask people questions. You got to challenge yourself. Like, you're going to therapy for months and months and months, and then one day it just clicks. That's what that moment is.

I like what you said, too, about Satori. You say no one can get to Satori by focusing on what's obvious or by sticking with the first thought that pops into your head. I feel like that's 90% of the content on social media. People just say the first thing that comes to their head instead of thinking about it. And they never think, like, I'm going to regret this. I think we're seeing this in sports, too. Somebody's pissed after a game. They rush to Twitter to say what they think or how they feel.

And it's like, dude, feelings are passing. Now your relationship with this person is defined by this thing you said to millions of people. And, you know, there's still a quote, it's better to trip with your feet than with your tongue. You cannot unsay things. You know, you can get back up after you fall, but you can't unsay things. That's why I've always been really cautious about what I do say and what I put out there. The trick that I do is before I react to something, I count

to ten backwards in my head. If I know that I'm going to say something I might regret later or you want to get it off your chest right away. Because some people feel like restricting yourself from saying those things is not a good thing. You have to say it. Say what you feel. You're censoring yourself. But I feel like sometimes

I might not feel that way tomorrow. Depends what it is Say what you feel. You're censoring yourself, but I feel like sometimes I might not feel that way tomorrow. Depends what it is. Like you said, if I've actually thought about it, and it's not an obvious thought, like it's something that nobody else has brought to the table yet, I'm bringing it to the table. But if you're angry at somebody and you react, I don't think that's always the best

reaction. I've never once been glad I lost my temper. There are times I'm glad I stood up for myself, but I, it wasn't when I was doing it out of anger. It's when I thought about it, you know? So what I think, one of the tests I use, I go like, what if I didn't see this? So somebody sends me this email and I go like, what if my phone just like ate it and I never saw it? Like, and I, if I didn't respond, would it matter? And so I go like, I kind of use deliberately

just pretending I didn't get stuff. I like to slow down, think deeply, chapter. You break down what Mr. Rogers taught kids to do. Have you guys seen Mr. Rogers lately, the TV show? I saw the documentary. If you remember the intro of the show, what's the first thing you see? It's a flashing yellow light.

Slow down, man. And that's his energy. And I think about it now. Yeah, he's mad. I'm thinking about it now. He was mad, slow, folding his jacket, sitting down. He wasn't slow. He was just going his own pace.

He strolls in the house. He wasn't from New York. You can tell that. He's from Pittsburgh. Right. But you compare that to like most kids shows. It's like, wait, why am I teaching my kid to be like a hyped up spaz? That's like the opposite of what I want.

So I love that slow energy. That's why New York, that's why the energy in New York is whack. Yeah. Super fast. Everybody going so fast for no reason. I have to slow myself down when I leave New York. I remember when I first really started traveling and going places and I'd be so impatient with everything. Like, even just

getting my change back. I'm not even in a rush. And you're like, oh my God, what's taking them so long? And I have to consciously be like, okay, Angela, everybody is not in a rush. I talk fast. I move fast. I do. And sometimes I have to force myself to just slow down. You know what? I think I go like, where am I rushing to? This isn't

going anywhere. Even when you're driving and you have road rage. And I think that's important too because people do make a lot of... I stopped that five years ago. I used to have road rage I don't really have road rage anymore because I have to always tell myself,

worst case scenario, I'll be a little late. Now, people are killing each other now. That's why I don't do road rage no more. They'll kill you for cutting them off. Well, and if you could ever catch yourself like in the mirror having some road rage, you're like, this is so lame.

This looks pathetic. Who am I yelling at? Myself? I'm the only one who can hear me. Give somebody a finger. F you, F you, Magnet. Stupid. I love 112. That's my favorite chapter in the whole book. Which one is that? Aware Desire. Yeah.

You know, you talk about John F. Kennedy. And you say a person enslaved to their urges is not free whether a plumber or a president. Yeah. And you talk a lot about John F. Kennedy and how he would treat people

and react in situations. Talk about the Beware Desire chapter. Yeah, so on the one hand, Kennedy is great, right? In the Cuban Missile Crisis, it's all about self-control, discipline.

But also, he cheated on his wife during the 13 days. Instead of being home with his family, the world's about to end. He's like, let me hook up with a college girl. That's not power. That's slavery. You know what I mean?

That guy is not in control of himself. That's what addiction looks like. And eventually, we think we can keep those spheres of our life separate, right? I think Tiger Woods is a great example of this. Best golfer in the history of the game, maybe one of the best athletes of all time. And he thought, well, but over here I can be in chaos and I can do bad things. But eventually they crash into each other and one destroyed the other for a decade. He lost a decade of being the best in the world because couldn't check his desires.

And so you want to go like, if I actually get this, you don't think about like how it's going to feel having sex. You think about that period right after you have it. Yeah. The guilt, you know,

the lying that you're going to have to do to your significant other. Yeah. Yeah. So you can flash forward. You go, okay, I don't need this. This is my mind lying to me saying that this is going to be amazing. And it won't be.

What I found so interesting about that chapter, though, like JFK, that desire was passed down to him from his father. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you got to work. Like, yeah, he had a father who cheated on his wife. He had a father who told him nurse grudges. He had a father who told him, like, you can get away with whatever you want. And so we can pick up

bad habits from our childhood. You gotta do that work. Because what happens is you get from your dad or whatever that you're only powerful, you're only a man if you do X, Y, and Z. And that's not true. And so you gotta be constantly checking those assumptions.

Well, still, this is the kids out right now. Instagram and Twitter and all that good stuff, right, still, this is the key. It's out right now. Yes. Ryan Holiday. Instagram and Twitter and all that good stuff, right? At Ryan Holiday. Also, I got you something. We're talking about Russian.

This is a ring I wear, but I think you'd like it. Wow. Memento Mori. I got one for you, too. Memento Mori. Memento Mori, right? So we're talking about,

like, where am I rushing towards? What we're rushing towards is death, right? We all die. So let's slow it down. I don't need to get through this interview to go on to the next one I don't need to get my chain like every moment is a moment is valuable yeah one of the one of the quotes that changed my life Seneca he said like death is not in the future every second that passes belongs to death right like so as

things are passing as you're rushing through life because you think you're dying. Like, we're dying. So, let's stop looking forward to the weekend. Right? No, look forward to enjoying this, whatever it is, even if it's stuck in traffic, even if it's bad weather. It's like, because this is it.

This literally might be it. It could be the last thing. Every moment, like, it's your last, baby. That's why I say all the time people be rushing. I go, are you in a rush to die? Why are you speeding for? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? What are you walking fast towards?

What's the point? Yeah. Slow down. Slow down, enjoy it, make the most of it, and be present, right? If you're worried about the past, sorry, if you're dwelling on the past or you're worried about the future, what you're not doing is seizing and getting the most out of whatever this moment is. Word. Doing this is the key is out right now.

My man Ryan Holiday. It's The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. What's happening?

Happy Monday, everybody. That's right. Happy Monday. Now, Charlamagne, you were out in Atlanta for Tyler Perry's opening, right? I was, man. Dropping a clues box for Tyler Perry. What happened this weekend is something

you really can't describe. It's something you had to experience. You know, first of all, it wasn't lost on me, the historical significance of what Tyler Perry has done, man. A black man literally has his own studio that's bigger than all the other Hollywood studios. And it's in black ass Atlanta.

Okay, we have all these conversations about black ownership. That's bigger than combined, right? Yes. Bigger than combined. Yeah, yeah. It's 332 acres. We have all these conversations about black ownership and building our own. Tyler has done that in a way that I didn't even think was possible.

Like, I've never thought of the possibility of a black man owning his own studio. It seems like the bar for so long has always been like a production company. You know what I'm saying? You produce your shows, produce your films, but Tyler is forcing everybody to dream bigger, and he shows you that the possibilities are limitless as long as you don't limit your dreams.

Absolutely. And that's all he kept saying over and over. Like, I just want y'all to dream bigger, dream bigger, dream bigger. So it was just an incredible weekend, man. Like, don't get caught up in the who was there. Like, pay attention to the historical significance of what this actually is. Oh, man.

Yes, and I always have been supportive of Tyler Perry and his movies. I know people have criticized him a lot. Oh, I'm definitely criticizing the movies. Just the fact that he was able to get himself to the position that he's in from being homeless, to doing the plays, to making them into movies, making sure that black people get work, make sure that's an amazing story in and of itself, and having these human

stories that no matter what race you are, people can relate to. And he did it by being unapologetically black and unapologetically catering to black people. You know what I'm saying? He actually did everything in Hollywood they try to tell you not to do. They want you to be mainstream and they want you to cater to white people and you know

nah, he did it by being unapologetically black and catering to his own people. That's why I could never understand why people used to go in on him like other directors. Why? Well, if you're critiquing the art, like all art can be critiqued. They would go in on him like he was

setting black people back and I'm like, how is that? Well, I tell you what, one of those people would go in on him like he was setting black people back and I'm like, how is that? Well, I tell you what, one of those people that went in on him, man, Tyler Perry, I mean,

named a soundstage after him and that was Spike Lee. Oh, really? Spike Lee was there. Spike Lee was there too. Spike Lee got his own soundstage and I was like, wow, that's big.

Listen, I haven't got to that level of forgiveness in my life yet. You know what I'm saying? But some people are better off than me, and Tyler Perry is clearly one of them when it comes to the forgiveness aspect of things. Absolutely.

And I also think when you're successful and doing really well, it's a lot easier to forgive. You're like, well, I'm happy, I'm blessed. No reason to have any regrets. Yeah, I don't think that's the case. Because I think I got to be a little pettier. I think actually being successful makes you, you can give somebody your after kiss even more. I don't need you. the case. Because I think I got to be a little pettier, but hey. I think actually being successful makes you, you can give somebody your after kiss even more.

I don't need you. Burn that bridge. That bridge is burnt. Bye. You know what I'm saying? Not that you have to work with somebody, but I'm saying you cannot really, I think forgiveness is easier when things are going great.

Well, I just like the fact that he gave Spike Lee a soundstage because Spike Lee is very deserving. And you know, even though those brothers may have had a difference in opinion back in the day on certain things, they all grown now. They've evolved. And drop on the clues, Martha Talaperi. And the brunch on Sunday, Bishop T.D. Jakes gave a sermon. Lord,

have mercy. My God. Bishop T.D. Jakes gave a sermon about catfish. And if you wasn't there, I'm not going to sit here and tell you. Maybe he'll release it online one day. But boy, catfish keep you fresh. That's what I'm going to tell y'all. Okay? And sometimes you got to let your storm get you to your destination. You don't even

got to stay to will. You know what I'm saying? Let God guide that ship. And Yolanda Adams performed at the brunch and the Clark sisters and Smokey Norville. Lord have mercy. Are you feeling good? You feel really blessed. I feel great. I had a great weekend. That was a great date weekend. Okay.

Did you go to BET Awards? No, I didn't get to go to the BET Awards, man. I wanted to go, but... I thought you great weekend. That was a great date weekend. Okay. Did you go to BET Awards? No, I didn't get to go to the BET Awards, man. I wanted to go, but... I thought you was performing. Performing? I thought Duval was doing Black Man No Cheat. We had some plans, but you know, time didn't permit because they only gave him a certain amount of time

to do certain records, so it wouldn't have made no sense. Plus, you know, I was invited to the Tyler Perry thing. Okay. All right. Now we got rumors on the way, Yee? Yes, let's talk about Kanye West and Sunday Service. He did his Sunday Service in Salt Lake City and had some things to say in support of Donald Trump. Alright, we'll get into that next.

Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Kanye. Listen up. It's just in.

All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip. Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Well, Kanye West did his Sunday service in Salt Lake City,

and he talked about the Republican Party and how they freed the slaves and how he supports Donald Trump. Here's what he had to say. Abraham Lincoln was the weird party. That's the Republican party that freed the slaves. Before a year people want to call me a fool

because I told my wife you black because you came like Trump. I ain't never made decisions only based of my color. That's what I'm gonna say to you. Technically, Kanye's not wrong, but he's leaving out a lot of that story.

It's very important. That's a long time ago, that Republican Party. It's very important to note that the Republican Party's values were totally different back then. And after 1912, the party underwent an ideological shift to the right. And after the Civil Rights Act and after the Voting Rights Act,

that's when the core base shifted and those racists in the South became more Republican. Okay, so he goes on to talk about social media and says, do not read the comments on the internet. Those people don't know you like that. Social media is designed to make you think slower. They want to slow you down and control you. I agree with that. And he goes on to talk about criminal

justice reform and how there's one in three African Americans in jail in this country. And then he did Jesus Walks. And there was about 7,000 to 10,000 people out there. That album, Jesus is King, was supposed to come out last week. And then it was supposed to come out on Sunday. I'm not sure what's going on,

but I guess sometime soon it could drop it any day. End of October, I think they said. I think an album like that, it may not come when's going on but I guess sometime soon it could drop it any day end of October I think they said I think an album like that it may not come when you call but it should always be on time so you know alright well since you say that let's talk about Ja Rule he was on Watch What Happens Live and he is saying that

he just wants to move past all of this 50 cent drama we've been having this ongoing feud now for like I don't know it seems like 15 years or something like that. Yeah. And I think it's time that we've grown past it. You do. I am removing myself. Oh boy.

From the circus. Okay. No more. Because, no, because what I've realized is when you entertain clowns, you become a part of the circus. Yeah, well that's not gonna work. That was of the circus. Yeah, well, that's not going to work. That was a little dig. Now, of course, Andy Cohen asked him to say three nice things about 50, and that didn't go well either.

He's a bad father. Oh. He, uh. I did this. I did it. He got, like, a big square, like, box head. Oh. And one more thing.

One more thing. What else can I say now? Oh. He looks like his breath stinks all the time. Okay. I actually thought that this was going to be something positive. Well, there it goes. That was fast.

Okay, well, that was... Grand opening, grand closing. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, besides just talking about 50, they also discussed other things like Ashanti, where she's singing for J-Lo and that whole reference track situation. So he cleared that up.

Is it true that Ashanti sung J-Lo's vocals in the beginning of her career? No, that's not true. Was that a reference? Oh, what? Let me clear this story up. So I wrote I'm Real for Jennifer Lopez. And I sung the original version of it as a reference. Okay.

But I sound terrible, of course, on the reference. So Ashanti then sung the reference for Jennifer Lopez. And when they mixed down the record, Irv left some of the vocals underneath. It's amazing to me how people love to hear those old hip-hop stories. It's interesting. I like hearing them too. I'm not going to sit here and tell you any lies. I didn't know that. That was very interesting. Yeah, that's why watching Angie Martinez's show on

WE tv, The Untold Stories of Hip-Hop, people love that, to hear those stories they never heard before. Alright, now Tiffany Haddish has said that she is going to set some boundaries moving forward. She's been very open about her public life and talking about things, but she posted a video on YouTube, the 10 things you should always keep to yourself.

And amongst those things is the biggest goals that you have, good deeds you've done, your personal life, your wealth, your life philosophy, family problems, other people's secrets, fears, weaknesses, resentment about the past and your talents. And so she's been taking notes on some of those things. And she tweeted out after watching this video, I'm going to be a different type of entertainer. I am done being an open book. Sorry, world.

No more raw entertainment from me. And she said, but if you do me wrong, everyone will know. So just know that that will still happen. If you do her wrong, we can be public about that. And she also said that a couple of things recently could spark some feathers but she said there's some things that I might have said or did two weeks ago that might hit the fan but all truth

so I am not tripping that's it I am no longer helping scrapes on my boots get rich it's all tipped this weekend but you know you can't volunteer certain information you put certain things out there People are going to ask you about it

It's 2019 You're the only person talking about Chingy Yeah you know People want to be an open book And share themselves And sometimes it's just Not even worth the trouble Listen

Like I told my sister this weekend It's 2019 You're the only person talking about Chingy Okay How does she reply? You can't be mad when Chingy replies How does she reply when you say that? That's for her to talk about.

You know what I'm saying? All right, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. I think she might be in town. She wants to come up here. Actually. Listen, why is there

a picture of Dramos? I don't want to take that down. There's a picture of Dramos and it's like right in my line of eyesight. Dramos is a DJ and he also runs our boards. That is the most douchey picture.

He's got on like a Hawaiian shirt with that well-manicured beard and some shades on and his hair slicked back. Why is that there? I believe somebody who listens is a fan.

Oh, the guy from jail? Yes, the guy from jail. Oh, yeah, yeah. The same guy that used to draw pictures of you naked. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So he's moved on from me. No doubt, no doubt. And now he's into Dramos so he's been to draw a picture of Dramos. Got you, got you naked. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he's moved on from me. No doubt, no doubt. And now he's into drama. So he's been to draw a picture of Dramos. Got you, got you, got you. And Dramos posted it because he likes it.

Next time, draw him shirtless. You know what I'm saying? He used to draw pictures of Envy. I can't remember the dude's name from jail. I can't believe he's still in there because he's been on for nine years.

And he used to draw pictures of Envy naked. Now he's drawing pictures of Dramos. Hey, how much time does he got? I don't know. Wow. Maybe life, but maybe the next picture he'll be naked. Keep that up Hey. How much time does he got? I don't know. Wow. Maybe life, but maybe the next picture he'll be naked.

Keep that up there. That's a good prison art. Okay. All right. Well, who you giving your donkey to, man? Four after the hour, I need this judge from Florida. Yeah, Florida to come to the front of the congregation. His name is John S. Krastronakis.

Who? We'd like to talk to him. What's his name again? I don't know. I'm not trying to repeat it again. My tongue hurts. All right. It's The Breakfast Club.

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My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home

in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for tucking a flamingo. Put the breakfast club, bitchy. Donkey of the day. With Charlemagne the guy. You don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this. That's Donkey of the day. For Monday, October 7th, goes to Judge John S. Castronakis.

Castronakis. I think I pronounced that right. Oh, boy. He is a judge in this city called West Palm Beach. West Palm Beach is a city in this state called Florida. You know when I'm outside, people come up to me and tell me to be easy on Florida. They say to me, Florida folks not that crazy. But there's nothing you all can do to prove that to me because we have eyes.

We have ears. We can read. We see and hear everything that comes out of the Sunshine State. And every day there's a story that proves the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. There is no debate here. And today we have yet another story that proves this point.

Now there's a young 21-year-old man out there named DeAndre Somerville. Drop one of the clues, Bonfrey. DeAndre Somerville, man. Okay, he got called to do something that we all hate to be called to do, and that's jury duty. When's the last time you had jury duty, Envy? I keep getting disqualified for jury duty

because of my past. Me too. That's Angela Yee. What about you? Me too. Me too. Because of your past? Yeah.

Okay. That's a damn lie. No, I don't know what they're speaking about when I think about my past. I wish I didn't have any felonies. I really do. When I was young, filling out job applications, I used speaking about when I speak about my past. I wish I didn't have any felonies. I really do. When I was young, filling out job applications, I used to hate when I got to that part because I for sure thought those felonies would keep me from getting hired certain places,

and I'm sure it did, but I never focused on the nods because I was too busy getting yeses, and I was happy about that. But having felonies is still not a good feeling. But the one time those felonies came in handy was when I got called for jury duty back in the day. I've only been called once, thank God. But I was in the courtroom and they asked the question, does anyone in here have felonies or something to that effect? And I threw my hand in the air quicker than Tekashi69 says he did it.

All right. Then the judge asked you to approach the bench and he asked me what my felonies were. And I said, loudly and proudly, assault and battery with attempt to kill, point and present in a firearm and distribution of marijuana. I was dismissed. Okay, what were yours, Envy? Mine was reduced to petty larceny. That's what you told the judge?

Yes. Okay. DeAndre Somerville didn't have the felonies that we have. In fact, he had a completely clean record. So he had no felonies to use to get out of jury duty. He had another excuse. Not really an excuse because these things happen,ies to use to get out of jury duty. See, he had another excuse. Not really an excuse because these things happen, but DeAndre

did indeed miss jury duty. Now, what happens to people when they miss jury duty? I have never thought about it, okay? Never heard of anyone missing it. I have. All I've heard is people not wanting to go, okay? But it's understandable that things happen. People get sick, people get in accidents. In the case of DeAndre, he overslept, okay? Some people

can't leave their jobs, and they would rather, you know, go to work than they rather skip jury duty and make sure they go to work so they keep their job. So I don't see the issue. Well, Judge John S. Castronakis from Florida clearly didn't like the fact that DeAndre overslept and missed jury duty. So how did he respond? Let's go to ABC News. Good morning, America, for the report, please.

A man who overslept when he was supposed to be serving jury duty paid for it with a jail sentence. DeAndre Somerville asked that judge to reconsider his sentence after spending 10 days behind bars for missing that day of jury duty. DeAndre says jury duty was the first time he ever set foot in a courthouse. 21-year-old DeAndre Somerville was sworn in as a juror for a civil case in August. He was scheduled to appear the next morning, but says he missed his alarm and overslept. Rather than heading to the courthouse or alerting the bailiff, Somerville went to work, not knowing there would be major repercussions.

The presiding judge, John Castronakis, said Somerville's absence delayed the trial by 45 minutes. The judge originally sentenced Somerville to 10 days behind bars, one year of probation, 150 hours of community service, and a $223 fine. But Judge Castronakis is now reducing the probation to three months. And the judge called this a classic example of good people making bad mistakes.

He's now considering expunging the contempt of court charge from Somerville's record. One of the conditions for that, Somerville will now have to give speeches to potential jurors about the importance of jury duty. All of that because a 21-year-old man with no criminal record overslept for jury duty. 10 days in jail, 150 hours of community service. Originally a year of probation reduced to three months, and you have to show up every week to give a 10 minute

discussion about the importance of jury duty what is that discussion going to be like you should show up to jury duty so they don't lock your black ass up okay now judge John S. Kronakis was asked why such a harsh sentence you know would you like to hear what he said when asked why did he give DeAndre such a harsh sentence

listen Mr. Somerville was the only African-American on our jury and represented a very important cross-section of our community. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but DeAndre's race shouldn't factor into this case because when it comes to being a juror, no bias is allowed, right? Correct.

Gender, race, religion, sexuality, none of those things are supposed to factor in when you are a juror, right? That's a terrible reason. You have to be objective, I thought, and listen to the facts of the case to come to a decision. Correct me if I'm wrong. A lot of people that listen to The Breakfast Club are in the law. Y'all know I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but I would think a juror's race shouldn't matter.

The only time a juror's race matters is when the juror is black and the judge looks at black people with disgust, okay, in a very poor light. I'm not going to go so far as to say the judges are racist, but I think if we asked Judge John S. why he gave DeAndre a harsh sentence, he could have just responded with this. Mr. Somerville was the only African-American. Does that stop? That's it. That's it. I threw the book at him because he was the only African-American there.

There's no other reason. Okay, well, the only other reason is that, you know, he's from Florida. Please let Chelsea Handler give Judge John S. Castronakis the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise. Am I missing something here? Nope. Ten days in jail, a year of probation, 150 hours of community service.

Is that not a little too harsh? That's completely biased and really harsh. And even the judge saying, because he was the only African American on the jury, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about jury duty. I thought jurors had to be objective. Yes. You're not supposed to have some type of bias.

Yes, even though everybody has natural bias. You're not supposed to. What would him being black have to do with this situation? Now let me ask you a question, Charlamagne. Yes. If you had a friend, right, that never reported to jury duty, right, what would you advise him to do?

Man, ain't my business. Why do I care if you're not going to jury duty? Thank you. I agree with that. You agree with that? Alright. Wow, who don't go to jury duty? I'm assuming Angel E, by the way, this conversation just went. You snitching on her? I mean, the way you set it up and the way she defended herself. I said I had a friend. I didn't say to jury duty. I'm assuming Angelina by the way this conversation just went. You snitching on her? I mean, the way you set it up and the way she defended herself.

I didn't say it was you. You just said it was her. I didn't defend myself. I just agreed with you. How do you keep getting out of jury duty? Who? You.

I don't know anything about that. I'm definitely ready to serve my country. Your community? Yes, absolutely. All right,

good. All right. Y'all will miss me if I'm Yes, absolutely. All right, good. All right. Y'all will miss me if I'm not at work. All right. Up next, Latham Thomas will be joining us. Salute to Latham. Latham Thomas will be joining us. We'll talk to her next.

My wife used, well, we used Latham for our third daughter. She's a doula. Doula. Yes. All right, so we'll kick it with her. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Latham Thomas. Welcome. Hey, y'all. Me and you kind of have the same job. Yeah. Help deliver babies. Envy, you are not a doula. Relax.

Okay, there's actual training that goes into that Help deliver five of them You was in a hospital though You know what I'm saying, with medication That is correct, but welcome Thank you, it's nice to see you all Thank you for having me back We missed Black Breastfeeding Week

Was it called? Yeah, Black Breastfeeding Week was in August Black Breastfeeding Week Yes, the 25th to August 31st. And what was that about? Well, it's really about affirming the specific experiences that African-American women have and the challenges we have around breastfeeding and our history with breastfeeding, but also self-determination and showing that this is a time that we can reclaim our bodies as sacred

and really lean into these practices that are not only good for our health, but are ancestral. And we know that our people were breastfeeding and wet nursing this nation. And so there's a lot of historical trauma bound in breastfeeding as well. So it's a way to address that, but also to address some of the systemic challenges we have around it as well and some of the policy gaps. I saw your post, too, where you were talking about

slavery and how our African-American sisters were impregnated and then forced to feed the master's baby while our own baby starved. Yeah.

If you think about that type of trauma that gets passed down, we know that intergenerational trauma is real, right? We're starting to see this. And I love that you guys have taken this stance on really looking at trauma in our communities and embracing pathways to healing, including therapy. And we know there's meditation. We know we have so many tools as people of color, but a lot of them we don't lean into. A lot of them have been seen as like, you know, not as good as other practices, right? Because they're not necessarily evidence-based, right? And so, but we need to lean into our healing practices, I think, to reclaim this period for ourselves, especially because, you know, motherhood is such a powerful time and parenthood in general, right? It's such a powerful time in people's lives and it really changes your life, right? But if it's bound in trauma then we're passing that down right and the womb is the first environment so

whatever your baby's exposed to whatever energy they're marinating in for that like 40 weeks is also going to you know turn on certain gene expressions when they you know when they arrive right and you talk about how when white women are breastfeeding is seen as empowering and when black women do it, it's like anthropology or it's like, you know, it's seen as different, maybe like not as wholesome. I think now with the tools of like social media, right, like people get to express themselves and you get to see different lenses on an experience that was taken away from us. And so I feel like right now, so many women are sharing, but also not just publicly, but like in, you know, on social media, but in public

spaces, right? Like being, being in the subway and breastfeeding or being uptown. I see women now they're like, oh, asking questions. And I'm like, wow, I'm so glad they're asking these questions because it wasn't passed down generationally. And we see this in like black and Latinx communities so often. And so we are under-resourced, but we also are the people who are doing it the most and are breastfeeding the least now. So it's really time for us to pick that back up. At what age should usually kids stop breastfeeding?

So it really depends. Like the World Health Organization recommends that babies breastfeed at least to a year old. But the world average is like five years old. Five years. Yeah. So a lot of people. It's old.

They got teeth. They got everything by then. Yeah, we just saw Ice-T's like Coco. They in school. Yeah. And her child is almost four. Yeah, I breastfed until my son was three. He was definitely able to do like, he was riding a bike almost.

He was going into preschool and I was like, um, can we like have a conversation about this? He was making dinner. Yeah, he was able to do a lot. But also there was not the so there was a social stigma like from people, but I didn't have it from like social media. Right. And I think that would have been different. Like if you're posting pictures and people are like, you know, shaming you. So I didn't have that. I just had it from my immediate peers or family members who were like, girl, you need to put that baby down.

But my son's health is like impeccable. That's what they said. The longer you breastfeed, it has a lot more benefits when it comes to you. Yes. They never get sick because there's immune factor that's passed down. And for people who don't know, you know, the first 18 months of life, babies get passive immunity from their mother. So all the things, all the antibodies that their mothers have built up in their lifetime are passed down to the baby while they're breastfeeding.

So that means that also another beautiful thing about it is that when the baby gets exposed to any pathogens, the mother will take a sampling of that and actually pass antibodies back through the breast milk to the baby. So the baby doesn't get sick most of the time. And so that's so great for people, especially in communities where we don't have access to quality medical care, we can't get to hospitals or we can't, we don't have insurance. This is like a way to safeguard our baby's health, you know, and minimize the amount of doctor visits and ear infections and things like that.

Yeah. Cause I don't have kids, but when I saw that picture of Coco and people like going in, I was like, let me go look this up and see about it. And that's when I learned that it is a lot of benefits to breastfeeding and continuing that on past the two year mark. Yeah. I mean, if you can. Right. And we know that like we think about it, it sounds easy and it sounds great.

But then you think about, OK, one fourth of all women go back to work 10 days after giving birth in this country, which is like, I mean, everything, like you're still, it's a lot going on, right? So you're not even recovered. And six weeks is a normal recovery period. So you figure you go to 10 days in, there's not time for bonding, there's not time to establish a milk supply. So it's really challenging for a lot of people. And so even though we say, like, yes, you should go, you know, for a year at least, it's like figuring out what are the systemic barriers

to people being able to actually do that. Yeah. Did you see the couple that was 70 years old that gave birth? 70? Yeah.

I think, was that in India or something? Yeah, it was another country. It was another country? I think I did see something about that. Would you recommend that? I mean...

And I think it was an egg that she had. She had to have that egg frozen. I don't remember exactly how it happened. Let me look it up. I just think about chasing behind a two-year-old. And they're both sick now in the hospital. Yeah, no. I mean, I feel like you know, when, if we're

bringing kids into the world, it's great if you can look after them yourselves. It's a great view of community. But I don't know. I just think about myself when I think about having another baby. And I'm like, okay, I'm not even, you know, 40 yet. I'm on my way. But I'm like, I would be so exhausted chasing behind a baby at that age. I can't even imagine.

It's exhausting. There's a lot of women. It is exhausting. Tamron Hall just had a baby at 48. Which is amazing. Which is great. Yes. Kenya Moore, we see women that are still able to.

Yes, they're having babies later in life. Because, you know, there's a stigma with that too, right? Just like we have a stigma for young women having babies, we have it for what we consider older or geriatric, right? This quote unquote. And so I think it's great that people are saying, hey, you know, I've established my life. I'm where I want to be.

And now I'm choosing to have a family. Because many of us, we don't get the opportunity to really plan, right? It's like, you just found out you were pregnant. It's like, oh, I guess we having a baby or some people- We're going to make it work. We're making it work. Or it's ambivalence.

You get pregnant, you're like, I don't know. Or you might, you know, a lot of people like with abortion and loss, like it's very common. And so it's like, you know, to be able to choose and intentionally and have your partner and your setup, that's like common. And so it's like, you know, to be able to choose and intentionally and have your partner and your setup,

that's like amazing. And be financially good. Yes. Okay, this is, you know, a great time. It's fantastic to be, do it conscientiously, right?

And be able to prepare. I think that's always great. It's not always common, but if we can get there, that's great. All right, we have more with Latham Thomas. When we come back,

don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Latham Thomas. Why are percentages for African-American women dying after birth?

Black maternal death rate. Why is that so high? So a couple of things. Number one, the CDC just released a report like two weeks ago saying that the rates have actually increased. So when I was here last, the rates were that black women were three to four times more likely to die during childbirth due to childbirth related causes. And now it's four to five times than white women. Yes. And that's nationally.

But in New York City, it's like 12 times higher. And so this is like there's a bunch of things. The sort of larger lens that we take is looking at systemic racism and bias in these spaces, neglect. The fact that like the medical system has been steeped in a culture of patriarchy and supremacy and has a lot of outdated practices that have not been addressed. And so when somebody goes in to deliver their baby and they say they're in pain or they're experiencing something that may be indicative of some sort of type of illness, then they're being dismissed instead of treated. Or if they have something like preeclampsia, which is associated with high blood pressure, right, which is pregnancy induced hypertension. If they have that, but like they have swelling, they have all the signs, but then they're sent home. They can have seizures. They can go into shock. They could also lose their babies. Right. And so this happens more often than not, that people don't catch a lot of the basic health risks, because also they like a lot of women report that they are going to the hospital and are going to their doctors and getting care, but they're not getting the type of concern for their needs.

And also, if you're in pain and you're perceived as not being in pain, right, because black women are seen to be able to tolerate more pain, then it's like, why would I give you an epidural? Why would I give you, you know, anesthesia? Why would I give you an analgesic if you don't really, if I don't perceive that you need it, right? So it's like you're being dismissed in many ways and now what's been so great in light of all this reporting, like New York

Times did a big piece, that was Seminole and ProPublica did a big piece and then it started to become part of the consciousness, you guys have brought it into the public sphere as well and I think one of the big pieces is folks showing their actual experiences. They'll go viral. That's the main reason I don't want to have

any kids anymore because my second daughter, what was the thing you said? Pteroclampsia. I think my wife had that. Yeah, so that was an emergency situation. Emergency section. She had the baby at eight months and then my third daughter, same thing. We was in the hospital, and they're just like, oh, we don't have any more anesthesia.

I'm like, how you don't have no more anesthesia? Epidural. Epidural, I'm sorry. They don't have any more. I'm like, how you don't have any more epidurals? They're like, well, if she can push it out. I'm like, what? And I'm like, you said, we got resources.

We got money. We're in a good hospital. She's black. She can shoot it out. And I'm like, you know what? We're not having no more kids after this. Yeah. That's crazy.

But that should not be an experience, right? Like she should have, and even if the outcome was great, right, which it was, it matters how she recalls the experience.

It matters what she felt, what she was meant to feel in that moment. She did not feel empowered when she asked for something and she's met with, oh, you can just handle it. Right?

And she was happy that she could push it out thanks to Lathan. Yay! You know, because she had a C- she's met with, oh, you can just handle it. And she was happy that she could push it out thanks to Lathan. Because she had a C-section the second time and they tell you that you can't have a you can only have another C-section. You can't have a vaginal delivery after that. But she did because of Lathan. But in this country, we

have the most resources allocated to maternal health, but we're 55th in all developed countries in terms of maternal deaths. So it's like we're spending the most money, just like military, we we're 55th in all developed countries in terms of maternal deaths. So it was like, we're spending the most money, just like military. We spend the most money in the war machine, but like, look at, you know, it's crazy. So it's, it's really like something to be thinking about, like really, how do we look at women and how do we prioritize women? And when I talk about this, I'm talking about an entire lens of a woman's experience, right?

Because we know reproductive life cycle includes menses and bleeding. Right. When your daughters get their periods, we get our periods at first, you know, pregnancy, abortion and loss, breastfeeding and birth, obviously, and then menopause. So we have to fight for every single aspect and not just center the movement around just abortion right now, Because if it's not safe for black women to give birth and we're putting at the top of the feminist agenda just the fight for reproductive rights, we need to be focused on reproductive justice. What does that look like as an entire continuum and making sure that everybody is served

and that we're specifically focusing on the most marginalized people, which we know are women of color first. What are some of the misconceptions about pregnancy? Because one, and this is crazy because I have five kids, I used to think that my wife couldn't work out. Like, no, you don't want to work out. You don't want to lose weight. You don't want to run.

You don't want to walk on a treadmill because you just don't want to affect the baby. What are some of the misconceptions about pregnancy? That's definitely one of them. Exercise is really helpful, right? And because, again, like you have relaxin, which causes the muscles and the ligaments to relax. And so that makes you more susceptible to also injury sometimes. So exercise is really good to help strengthen, to help with strength and flexibility. No drinking.

A lot of people say you can't drink. No, some people say you can have a glass of wine, a glass of wine once a week. You could do that to go into labor because it'll relax you, but not in the beginning because it's a very delicate, you know, it's so delicate, the whole cell division, the process, it's rapid and there's all kinds of things that can go wrong

in that very beginning stage. We have an endocannabinoid system and there's actually cannabinoids in breast milk. So we know that like our bodies have like grown alongside these plants like CBD, right? Yeah, CBD. People send me that all the time. CBD is in breast milk. So we know that like our bodies have like grown alongside these plants. Like, and they're ancient. That's CBD, right? Yeah, CBD.

Yeah, people send me that all the time. CBD's in breast milk. Yeah, it's in breast milk. What about getting a perm or dyeing your hair? Okay, so I, you know, a lot of people avoid that

because there are chemicals in the dye and it obviously goes right into your bloodstream because like your scalp is like permeable. So it's better to try to avoid like anything intense like that. You know, toxins, which are in a lot of products, especially in

our communities, right? Like we have products that are marketed to us that are not safe for us. And so when we think about like the lotions, the creams, like Vaseline, which rhymes with gasoline, like we're using stuff like this all the time because it's tried and true. It's been in our community for forever. But when you turn over the bottle and you look to see the ingredients, a lot of them should not even be in our body. And the Continuum Conference. Yes. I'm so excited about this conference, you guys. It's our first one. It's going to be at the William Vale Hotel. Have you been there in Brooklyn? It's amazing. It's going to address fertility, pregnancy, new motherhood, everything in between. It's November 3rd. And yeah, it's going to be a day of programming and people can come and learn and also meet other people who are going through what they've been through.

So, you know, we'll definitely address like maternal mental health, because we know that this is a critical, critical issue in our country right now. And we're just starting to have that conversation. I think that y'all have been really pivotal also in, you know, making it more acceptable to even look at the fact that there's a mental health crisis in our country. And so one of the things that we want to do is create community in the conference. So there's mentors, there's conversation, but obviously there's panel discussion. But when you move outside of that, there will be groups that you're placed into so that you leave there with like connection. Right. And you're giving scholarships too, right? Yeah, we're going to have some scholarships and we're going to give a code to Breakfast Club listeners so that they can, you know, come

and be able to attend. Well, can we do that now? Do we have it yet? Yeah, what should we call the code? Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club, that makes sense. BC is shorter though. Yeah, they can spell Breakfast Club. Y'all can spell it and if you don't, then you're not getting a discount. So go to Breakfast Club

and check out and it's at thecontinuumconference.com and then use breakfast club at checkout and you'll get like 10% off. We appreciate you for joining us this morning. And again, where can people find Latham? Let people know where they can find you. Yes, I'm on

Instagram as glowmaven, G-L-O-W-M-A-V-E and yes, I have the book, Own Your Glow. And then mamaglow.com. If you want to learn more, if you want to get involved, if you want to advocate, if you want to protect this process of women in birth, we're ready to receive you. If you think you can't have a vaginal delivery after C-sections, Latham is the person to holler at.

Thank you. Well, it's Latham Thomas. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. On The Breakfast Club.

So listen up. Well, congratulations to the baby. He has his first ever number one album on the Billboard 200 with Kirk. Drop on the clues bomb for the baby, damn it. Charlotte, Queen City. 145,000 equivalent album units. 704. Shout out to the baby. Yeah, originally they said it would do between 130 and 150.

It ended up doing 145. I'm proud of that guy, man. Salute to the baby. Salute to Arnold Taylor. Salute to my man Stunner for Vegas. That whole billion dollar baby entertainment. Keep moving. Alright, and rest in peace to Diane Carroll. She passed away at the age of 84. She was a pioneer for African-Americans.

She actually was the first black woman to star in a network show with Julia on NBC. So it was the first network series to have a black actress as the lead character. You know her also from Claudine. Of course, she was in the five heartbeats, right? Dynasty, and also the spin-off, The Cobies, and A Different World. She was married four times. Her last husband was Vic Damone.

Yeah, Tyler Perry also honored her this weekend with a soundstage. I mean, that's something that he had playing way before her passing. I think she was actually supposed to be there this weekend. Wow. But yeah, he definitely honored her this weekend with her own soundstage

on his lot. She's survived by her daughter and two grandchildren. Okay, now Floyd Mayweather has filed a protection order to protect his daughter from a stalker.

According to Hollywood Unlocked, they gave this exclusive. They said she's been getting threatening phone calls and being harassed by 29-year-old Damon Smith II. He also threatened her mother, Melissa, and her business.

So he's threatened to kill and rape Ayanna as well as her family if they don't hand her over to him. And that's a very scary thing when you start getting threats like that. And he actually even bought a flight and posted his flight to Vegas and everything. Now, when it comes to the law, the law has to mind their business when certain things happen, right? Because what if this guy does get close to this young lady in some way, shape, or form? You already have the threats.

You already put the three-screen order out. Now, we should be able to do whatever we want to this guy. That's right. If he gets anywhere close, Floyd got about, what,

seven bodyguards? You said you're going to rape my daughter? Floyd himself? Come on, man. Floyd has his fists. You're a threat. The threat has been established.

Therefore, if the threat comes in my vicinity, I kind of want you to come to Vegas. The threat has been established. Therefore, if the threat comes in my vicinity. I kind of want you to come to Vegas. The threat can be destroyed. That's right. I kind of want you to come to Vegas. Come on. The threat can be eliminated.

Yeah. I'm saying all that to say. It's a scary situation for Ayanna. It is. So hopefully they get him in jail and get him out of there. Hopefully he gets shot if he comes anywhere near Ayanna. All right. Now let's talk about what's going on with Amanda

Seals and all this drama with this party that she wasn't able to get into and she did an episode of Side Effects of Professionalism Part 1 for her podcast, Small Doses. And by the way, she also has a Small Doses book as well coming out. Yeah, in a couple weeks.

She's been talking about this situation where she couldn't get into this party and not only could she not get in but it was humiliating for her because she was escorted out of the party when she did manage to make it in she was invited by jesse williams and apparently there's some people that she doesn't get along with and she says that the person who actually didn't want her there is isa ray's publicist so a year ago isa ray's publicist. So a year ago, Issa Rae's publicist, Vanessa Anderson of AMPR and some other people, they started doing a black Emmy party. Of course, I work with Issa.

So Vanessa is somebody who I have absolutely like met before, like when I had my web series on Issa's channel and I have interacted with her, you know, on a few occasions, but she has never been nice to me ever you know I told Issa I was like hey you know your publicist like she's just like she's just not being nice like she's just nasty and Issa was like yeah I mean that's just between y'all okay now she goes on to talk about more about her issues on getting into this party now I had seen Vanessa come outside to the front

and have a conversation with her, but I didn't think anything of it. I mean, it is Vanessa's party. Why wouldn't she come and speak to the person at the door? But it was interesting that this was happening because it seemed like an echo of the year before. So what ends up happening is Elijah's like, you know what, they're not going to kick me out of the party,

so come on in. So he welcomes me in, and as I'm coming in, the white girl is like, she cannot go in. She cannot go in. And I was like, girl, stop. And I just wave her off. And I kept walking. Then she goes on to say that security came to escort her out.

So I walk in and I go to the bar. Kiki goes to the bathroom. By the time Kiki has come back from the bathroom, a security guard is talking to me. And a security guard says to me, hello, miss. We have been asked to escort you out. I'm like to me, hello miss, we have been asked to escort you out. I'm like, well who asked you

to escort me out? So he gets on his phone and he says, Vanessa. I said, well then you need to find Vanessa. Because I need to speak

to Vanessa and I need to find out from Vanessa why I'm being escorted out. And apparently no one could find Vanessa. Who did those sound effects? That's the sound effects

from Small Dozens Podcast. You know, listen to Small Dozens Podcast. I enjoy Small Dozens Podcast. That's our podcast. Small Dozens Podcast? I enjoy Small Dozens Podcast. Now, she goes on to say that she was hurt that none of her castmates intervened and nobody's doing anything. And Sharunis, who's on the show, he said, you can't be a disrespectful-ass human being and expect people to want to hang out with you. It's quite simple. Sit it out.

Well, she responded to what Sharunis had to say. Not only am I not for everybody, everybody ain't for me. So anybody you see on Twitter who is in this business and got some s*** to say about me, trust and believe. I got s*** to say about them. The difference is that I'm classy enough to keep it to myself and not chime in during s*** that ain't got s*** to do with them. I was confused how she was invited, and then when she was invited, they didn't let her in.

Well, I guess Jesse Williams invited her, but it was Vanessa's party. Vanessa and Aranda. Right, so because the person throwing the party, even though she was invited by Jesse, he probably didn't know there was any issues. Hey, dropping the clues for my guy Aranda. I don't know what's going on. This is all too much, okay? It just sounds like a whole bunch of just mess. I don't know what's going on. This is all too much. Okay? It just sounds like a whole bunch of just mess.

I don't know what's going on. I know Amanda Sears is my partner, though. And I ride with Sears 100%. I wonder why she ain't called Aranda. I think Aranda was actually coming to get her, but she was already in the party by the time he got there. So Aranda went to go mind his business. Okay.

And then all of that other stuff happened after the fact. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. You think that her castmate should have stood up for her and intervened or? Um, no. I don't even know what their relationship is with each other. I think. I say yeah. No. If you were outside a party and I was inside and I seen you having a problem, I would walk over and make

sure you was good. But we actually like each other. Oh. They don't like each other? It's clear to me that clearly they don't. Wasn't that dude on the cast of Insecure? Yeah, it's Tarunis So it's clear that they don't get along in some way, shape or form Isis publicist don't like Seal Seal doesn't seem to care for her

It's like You can't mix oil and water Alright, well I'm sure next time Amanda comes up She'll talk about it with us I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report Make sure you get her new self-help book, Small Doses. Can you mix oil and water? You can, right?

It's just not going to mix well. Okay. It's laying on top. I just heard that. That's always a cliche term. I was like, I've never actually tried to mix oil and water. I have no idea if they mix at all. All right.

Revolt. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice mixes up next. Let's go. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, we got to shout to Ryan Holiday for joining us this morning.

This is my guy, Ryan Holiday. Make sure you go grab his latest book, Stillness is the Key. Ryan Holiday is one of my favorite authors. I read all of his stuff. Ego is the Enemy. Obstacle is the Way. Trust Me, I'm Lying. I even give his books to people because I think his books are just that good.

Stillness is the key is another one that we all need in this noisy-ass, busy-ass world. Some of us need to find time to sit our black asses down. And also Latham Thomas for joining us as well. Love Latham Thomas. You know, Latham Thomas coached my wife through her third pregnancy. My wife thought she was going to have to have another C-section. But because of Latham, she was able to have a, what do you call it, a V-birth? She was able to push it out of her poom-poom.

There you go. A vaginal birth. That's better knowledge. A vaginal birth. There you go. It's a technical term for it. I just can't remember. I know it's V-something.

And she also has the Continuum Conference happening. So she wants to make sure people go to the ContinuumConference.com. And if you use the code BREAKFASTCLUB, you'll actually get a percentage off at your checkout. So use the code BREAKFASTCLUB and go to the continuumconference.com Alright, when we come back, positive note, it's the

Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Nayee, you out in Detroit? Yes, I'm out here in Detroit. By the way, my house is coming along amazing out here. I thought it would be done by now, but it's still not completely

finished, but I think in probably like a week or two it really will be done, but it does look great. It's a nice feeling when we did something and rehabbed it and took it down to the studs and then rebuilt everything. And you know how extravagant I am. Yeah, no, the house looks amazing. Congrats.

Yeah, thank you. I'm excited about it. And I'll be out here for Wayne State University, moderating a panel at Wayne State University. It's all about education and entrepreneurship. And that is happening tomorrow. So I'm still out here. But shout out to Cash Doll.

I actually hosted her listening session out here. And Adi as well. And also We Run 313, the running club that they have out here that I actually brought myself out here and my whole Run With Ye initiative. Just getting people out and about and running. And it was a great thing. We ran two miles through the city, stopping traffic and everything. All right. Hundreds of people.

All right. And also shout out to all the HBCUs. You know, I do my HBCU tour around this time. So this week I was at University of Arkansas Pine Bluff. Shout to them. A small HBCU out in Arkansas. And then I went over to Tallahassee. FAMU.

Shout to everybody at FAMU. I got Central State University to go to. Hampton, Howard. So many different HBCUs. And we don't only just do parties. Sometimes we do parties. Sometimes we talk about generational wealth. Sometimes we talk about getting into the do parties. Sometimes we do parties. Sometimes we talk about generational wealth. Sometimes we talk about getting into the music industry. Sometimes we talk about real estate.

And sometimes we party. So I can't wait to see you at HBCU. You can do all those things. Yeah, we try to do them all. Yeah, we can do all the things. We can party and we can educate. Absolutely. All right. And shout out to everybody from Lip Service, too.

We do have the Lip Service live tour. And I know a lot of people out here was asking about it. But that tour is actually kicking off, oh my gosh, on the 20th, so that's in two weeks. Less than two weeks, so make sure you look for those tickets on LiveNation.com. Alright. Charlamagne, you got a positive note?

Listen, I want to salute Tyler Perry too, man. You know what I'm saying? I was down there this weekend for the grand opening of his studio in Atlanta, and it's just unbelievable. It was just something you had to studio in Atlanta. It's just unbelievable. It was just something you had to experience, man. It just encourages me to dream bigger. I don't feel like I'm hustling hard enough.

I want to salute Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, he was holding my wife's hand a little too long, and I told him, I said, yo, all right now, you're holding her hand a little too long. And he looked me in the eyes and he said, you know, Charlemagne, you should want me to sit here and talk to her for an hour. Simply because I'm old and harmless now.

I don't know what that meant. Okay. But that's what he said. All right. That sounded like some game. It sounded like something back in my day. Back in my day. I took this pretty little thing from you.

All right. But yeah, man, salute to everybody that came out there this weekend. And I want to leave on a positive note. The positive note comes from my man, Bishop T.D. Jakes. Bishop T.D. Jakes says you cannot see in a storm. That's why he told you to walk by faith and not by sight. Breakfast club, bitches! You all finished or you all done?

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