The Breakfast Club - Straight Shot No Chaser with Tezyln Figaro: What is Servant Leadership?

Episode Date: September 21, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... Straight Shot No Chaser! SSNC discusses what is servant leadership and what you should look for in an elected official. Learn the difference between purpose and profit. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I come from the school of Tupac. I'm a rival. You don't want to what? I'm not your average Negro. Hold up. I want to ask you a question real quick. Let's just keep it real straight shot with no chaser. I'm going to get a little bit rough.

I'm here for those who really believe in the American process. All of us. Straight shot, no chaser. With your girl, Tesla Figaro on the black effect podcast network all right what's happening everybody this is tesla figaro straight shot no chaser on the black effect podcast network with jade harrell joining me as usual you guys should be used to hearing her by now because jade how many months have you it's been like three months at least maybe has it been three months it's been three months

i think on this podcast which i'm really grateful and excited about and working with you tess even if it's for a week it feels like five years because of all the training and knowledge and jewels you drop so i don't know i don't have a great sense of time when you ask me but yeah i appreciate it yeah it might be longer than that i don't know it's a constant training situation so it's you know constant training situation and people don't understand that um which i appreciate about you uh you know i always want to give you flowers all the time and make it known on the record um you know i do it all the time but i just it's always good to reiterate it that this would really not be possible. And I'm not even talking about just this podcast, just my getting my whole life together, period. You know, making sure that I'm on top of the

stuff I need to be on top of. If it's from lines that I've had to do in the movies this year, to um you know the podcast to my television stuff um my other shows i mean you just have been because of you i literally have been able to add on more projects um and i just i just know that would not have been possible without you just keeping me straight and you know keeping me on board i just um i think i mentioned to well I know I mentioned to you, but I don't remember that I just enrolled in a political science program, graduate program. So I'm super excited about that. I'm a nerd. As you know, I love information. And I've always, you know, people who have a political science degree, you know, I've debated people like that, political scientists, if you will. And I've always, you know, talked about how the theory is not on the ground in actual politics.

And so I'm learning in this class that I was right, that it is not on the ground. It is not grassroots per se. I love my professor because he said something that I say all the time that I'm telling you how it is, not how I want it to be. So I'm very excited about this course or this program in particular, because I try to be that type of educator to tell you, you know, how it is, how it is when I found it. He described it as how the world is when he found it, not what I want it to be, not what what it should be and because he literally had in the syllabus this is not like people yelling and screaming on fox news the msm you see he still don't know i do do fox news but

i thought that was interesting that he has it like literally in the in the description but i love it because a lot of times i'm really i'm excited to know that i can connect those two worlds you're either a scholar or you are a grassroots person or an organizer or worked on a campaign or you might be somebody who's experienced various levels of whatever it is we're talking about you know um which is why this episode health care that we're doing is so important but you may not have experienced various levels in the world our exposure to those things and so I'm just excited Jay because I want to be a better educator I want to be the best that I can I want to touch as many people as I can and I really pride myself on being able to relate to people with analogies and metaphors and, you know, get people to understand it. And so I'm just a forever learner. I'm a forever student.

And so I just get geeked out, you know, when I look at the syllabus and all the stuff that I'll be learning, you know, in the structures. And now I've been able to take that to explain to people what you scientists is. And a lot of people struggle with this. It's the information, it's the data. It doesn't mean how it is or what it should be. It's just the data. So I'm just excited, Jay, about having the discipline of political science,

you know, in addition to all the other things. Yes, that's amazing. And I'm like, oh oh you already a professor so you're about to be even dropping more jewels oh yeah girl i'm gonna be getting on y'all nerve through every every unit y'all gonna learn i will not be in this alone but it's just so exciting to me um if i could just teach for the rest of my life, you know, that's the goal. Teach, train. There's a difference between training and teaching in my mind, you know, but just to sit and, you know,

get people to get it and get people to say, Oh, especially the adult learners. My master's in adult education and I love the adult learner because the adult learner typically doesn't tell you what they don't know so you have to figure it out you you see that light bulb go off and be like oh okay i see what you're saying you know i do it to you all the time even when you don't like it you educated yourself but just bringing up a conversation we had before i know your mommy's sharing it but when we talk i think we talked about it on one of these shows girl we do so many but we were talking about um coach waltz and his yes come on let's go with it i love it come on and how he relates and you went with the narrative that was you know being put out there tiz he don't own no home he

don't have no assets he doesn't have any cryptocurrency He doesn't have a, you know, extensive amount of real estate. In my mind, I was like, how is he going to be VP? So, you know, I sent it and, you know, we talked about it on air and you really spooked me on that. Yeah. Like, see, this is where people get confused. See, a public servant. And I know people are confused by that because it's been abused. It hasn't been what it's supposed to be, but it's actually a servant. It's not a business. It's not a business. It's not running in like a business. I know Donald Trump and many others say, you know, I ran a business so I can do this assessment.

The problem is, and what you've seen with a Trump style administration, and I'm not even just talking about Trump in particular, but anybody that says, oh, you run it like you run a business. No, you actually don't run it like you run a business. You actually don't always put profit first. You actually don't look at what's best for you. You actually don't make executive decisions like a business. I was a CEO. I am a CEO. I've had 300 employees.

Matter of fact, perfect example where the, you know, I tell the story all the time, but this is a perfect example where a public servant crosses with being a CEO. So when I was a CEO at the Allied Group, and I tell the story all the time about how during the NBA lockout in 2011, my employees didn't have meals during that time. The CEO of me was just fine. I was living just fine. The mayor of Orlando said, Tezlin, don't challenge the NBA on this because the city of Orlando was still getting paid, even though the basketball team, you know, even the NBA wasn't working because my kind of back up my staffing firm, our job was we were the ushers for the Amway Center. So my employees, you know, were the ushers help you sit down, you know, two contractors, one ticket, help you find your tickets, all that type of stuff. So when the NBA was out on lockout, they weren't working.

And what people don't understand about a staffing firm is you might just be working for me for four or five hours, but I might have you on another assignment earlier that day. You might do something day before you're piecing together that puzzle. So when people are saying, what's the big deal? These are just part-time employees. What's the big deal? Well, the big deal was, if you know, when you run a payroll, it costs the most, I want to get as many hours as I can out of that associate. I'll just give you an example. Let's say to employ you, I have to pay $30 in taxes, no matter how many jobs you work or whatever you do. So I want to have you on as many jobs as I possibly can while I'm paying that salary

or that cost associated with that employee. Very similar to when we talk about how much does it cost to get a vote? You know, and we said, okay, it's going to cost about $15 per vote. A lot of people don't understand that. We can unpack that at another time. There's always a cost associated with the person.

So I may have a temporary employee do four hours over here. It allows me to pick up another project. It allows me to throw something else in the mix, similar to our relationship. When you're working with me, you're a consultant, but because I have you, I can add in a little piece here, a little piece there. You can go contract and do this. You can do that. So the more, as long as I keep you working consistently part-time or you have another contract part-time, you're able to add in these other things and all the money comes together. People that have never had to live that, to work that, to know what it means to depend on multiple streams of income or to say, hey,

you know what? I may not get much from Uber, but I make 500 a month. I can depend on that. But that 500 a month allows me to make another 500 over here or these various different things. So they didn't understand that I also had employees. A lot of people were on probation and they had to be able to show

that they were working somewhere or they would get penalized in a program. I had women who lived in shelters who are different programs that needed to be able to say, hey, I am working, you know, regardless of the hours, but I'm working. I actually am, you know, employed, gainfully employed. I also hired about 100 plus students from an academy called Workforce Academy. And it was a school that was set up to let the students out half a day to go work there were students who were actually taking care of their parents some of the only people working

in a household so they went they got in this program to go work so the nba wasn't thinking about all of that you know when they were going through their multi-million dollar lockout which is fine but i was thinking about it when i said they're not working and so we have to tell this story of what it means for people not to be able to work so if we are going to be uh locked out i need the community to step forward and still take care of these individuals because again now we're talking about people going back to prison recidivism all of of that. And I had people who were former CEOs, people with PhDs. This was coming out of a recession. So it wasn't an easy time for a lot of people. So by telling that story, Jay, that's not what a CEO would do. A CEO is thinking about the profit, the bottom line, and making sure that you keep the relationship with the company. So the CEO wouldn't have said anything at all because the CEO was still, you know, still got a contract and said, you know,

we're not going to rock the boat. The servant in me who was actually running for office at that time. And I told my employees, if I don't do this, then y'all shouldn't vote for me. If I'm not willing to give the job up, give the contract up, give that up for you guys, then you shouldn't vote for me. that's the difference between a servant and a ceo so when you hear politicians saying oh yeah but i want to know if you can run a business you can run a company no you don't run a company that's why the government's always in debt which is the argument between you know republicans and democrats y'all spin spin spin right because the government in the liberal way is being a safety net for those who don't have

so it's kind of like i'm gonna always be in student debt because I'm not rich and I'm going to want to keep learning. So the mindset of thinking that running a business is like running the government is not. Now, are some of those skills, do some of those skills, you know, are they helpful? Yes. Negotiation, things of that nature. But you are a servant. You are not there to be rich. You are not there to benefit yourself. you are not there to be rich you are not there to benefit yourself you're not there to benefit your friends so coach waltz which is why i keep calling coach waltz and i'm sorry i'm just gonna go and put it on record i'm not endorsing him or a surrogate for their campaign but he is really the ideal on what you what it should be the man made a hundred

thousand something dollars as governor he lived in the governor's mansion he didn't have multiple houses most people that make a hundred thousand something dollars don't have multiple houses he wasn't stealing and skimming and getting money and contracts on the side and uh you know all the different whatever you saw my cd and all this well i need to know if you if you're not successful you can't be a public servant no it was never designed that way the best preachers in america are the ones Bishop. Bishop got a small church that he owns his own. Bishop Taviswan. People can't hear you, so come to the mic. I want them to hear your feedback. Bishop Taviswan has one church that he owns. It's an old school church. We talked about the other day. One aisle church, two sets of pews on each side. It's not a mega church. It's not a big church. He owns it. This is what gives him the liberty

to actually be a real servant. He don't have to cut corners or not say this or not say that because he got a mega church. He don't have to worry about why I can't fight police brutality because I got to make sure that I'm being a politician

and I'm cutting a deal and I'm making sure that I don't offend nobody. That is the true servant leadership. Yes, you should be able to take care of yourself. Yes, there's nothing wrong with doing well, but we're not supposed to be looking at somebody's bottom line to determine

if they will be a good servant. I agree because after you and I've had this conversation once on air and then I've, you know, we, we talked about it off air and then you've consistently over a period of time have given me examples. It,

you know, literally because I keep bringing it up over and over. Yeah. But I appreciate it because like it, it really lands it because my initial idea of what it would mean to be a successful commander in chief of a whole country is someone who has built an empire because initially i was thinking well if you can't if you haven't made a whole bunch of millions of dollars for yourself and your own family and generationally

how are you going to run these here united states of america where are you where'd you get that from i wonder where'd that come from i i think it came from all of the propaganda I have been consuming. I must say from the last 60 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.

But literally millennials and Gen Z people like we, I'll speak for myself and other folks that I know, but especially I was just speaking for myself that managing large sums of money and you know growing that empire is important and I'm thinking that okay a great qualified commander-in-chief is someone who has demonstrated that so when I saw Governor Wall show up and he's saying he doesn't have all of these different assets and stuff i was like oh initially until i got school my tesla and figure i'm initially like oh well how is he going to run the united states of america yeah that's so wow yeah yeah yeah that's so and so

and just to be clear because you know i'm not a big fan of generational conversations it's really irritating to me because it just it doesn't it's not always applicable. But when you did say Gen Z, let's be clear. Generation X made more money than any generation ever with the dotcom industry. So nobody understands entrepreneurship than somebody from the. I'm in the they call it ex-lineal half of Generation X and the end of millennial, the 40s, mid 40s. But still, like we grew up with Internet. With AOL and cell phones, and we had all of that in fifth, sixth, seventh grade.

So half of our life was still digital, but we still got enough of older. Everybody I was around 10 years older than me people in their 50s but still had technology that's really what separates the generation but the dot-com industry nobody made more money uh it was something in the 80s but the dot-com industry when the internet came out entrepreneurship multi-millionaires billionaires and do your research on this if you ever watch i don't know if you ever watched those series the 90s and the 2000s and the that cnn puts out all the time nobody made more money than generation x nobody understands entrepreneurship more than generation x so this is not always as a millennial we think because y'all are broke it's to be honest with you yeah we are now because and that's what i was i wanted

to say is that the economy is so bad right now we're looking for a financial savior. Who is going to put things in place so we can buy a house and not have to work until we're a thousand. Just so you know, Generation X wasn't looking for no savior. Generation X was their own savior. No, I agree. Y'all were. But I'm just saying now, when I'm thinking about

politics and this election cycle, I initially falsely thought that someone who manages the business and you know um will be a good fit and that's only a good fit versus looking at policy because the country is so broken inflation is so bad right now so that's all i was trying to say first of all this is the reason why trump did so many executive orders and skipped over congress it's not a ceo job it's not hey you're fired you leave it's not exactly it's that's not like that's not the government is processes uh working together uh coming up with strategies together it's not about how successful you can be

it's how successful you set up other people and businesses don't operate that way businesses operate with the bottom line profit in mind now the conservative side or the republican side will say they look at the bottom line profit what makes sense small government you know not spending a lot of money managing the budget this is what they would argue democrats would argue yeah you can manage the budget but government is supposed to be a safety net for those that cannot do or don't have or create more opportunities for people to go from the poor to the actual middle class. And so in order to do that, in order to be a servant, period, it requires a selflessness that is required to be a public servant and and if you want to be all about you and make money and and be a boss and do what you're supposed to do and then get it get out of this business because that ain't what this business is you lucky if you're able to even

just take care of yourself if you are a true servant you you're probably going to make more, excuse me, privately than you ever will as a public servant. Now, the flip to that is, Jay, some people get into it already with their money. There are people that say, yeah, I make sure I want to be a multimillionaire before I run for Congress. I want to make sure that I have all these things so that I don't have to go make my money. So I don't have to worry about money. So I don't have to be bald. So I don't have to feel like I'm weak about money or whatever. And then there's some people that come in with plenty of money, girl, and they figure out ways to make more money and they pimp the system. But a servant mindset, just think about it at the church. You're supposed to start the church on the hill. It's not not thinking I want a 10,000, you know, member church.

I want a Bentleyley i want a big house i want this or that so i just think and it was a great conversation having this looks like what this show has turned into i just think the the the servant leadership or the idea of serving leadership i'm looking at as we're doing this because you know i always keep the tv on in the background i'm looking at jasmine crockett. When I interviewed her a few weeks ago, she talked about how much money she made in the private sector. And when she gives a story of how she was in tears and really when she said BP Harris reached out to her when she was in the middle of a line and she said she was in tears and she said she didn't know why she was doing this. She made more money as an attorney. She

was doing so many things and so many sacrifices involved in this you know money was one of those things that you give up now again people can say that she's successful that she has the uh you know all of the clout she'll make money after consulting sure but the initial thing is this is not a job and she she makes a as a currency you make $125,000 a year so it's not broke but if you are used to making a quarter of a million 300 or whatever it is you know that can make a make a difference and there's a lot that you can't do as a public servant like certain deals that you can go to jail so yeah and how you manage your checkbook is not how I understand the basic principle of it.

You know, responsible, logical thinker. You don't know how to bet. But the basic the basic principle is what has that man sacrificed to serve Minnesota? He did not put himself first. He put service first. And that's who you want writing policy. People that's going to put service first and not themselves. So, again, what makes a good public servant is somebody that put themselves first. That's what I look at. Not necessarily who went up the career ladder, who did well, who made money, what their personal accounts are. I

know that was something that Trump talked about and we see what that type of leadership looks like. So that's not for me with leads. I think that Coach Waltz is very relatable. I like the viral video of him going around talking about cleaning out the gutters on the house. Those are things that people relate to because it's not paying somebody else to do it. It's not having a servant to do it. It's not saying, oh, let me call AAA. No, it's you know how to change your own tire. You know how to change your own oil. People relate to that because they want to know, you know what it means, you know, to have to do those things and not somebody else for you. And that's what makes people good servants. The pain that people have that they can associate. Matter of fact,

the speeches that we teach me, you, us a little bit about me, a little bit about you and then us something that relates us together and how we can move forward. So when you say, I know what it means to live middle class, I know what it means to be poor like you'll hear vp harris i know what it means to work my way through college you know at mcdonald's i know what it means to be a single have a single parent for coach walsh to say i know what it means to have to take care of a family you know on a middle class salary i know what it means you know to be a teacher there's nothing more admirable than other than police officers that's up to question for a lot of people but teachers better than that so in general yes right of course so why would you want it why would you not want a

teacher opposed to somebody who did well financially what about the character of a teacher that gets up and sacrifices this man was a teacher for 30 years, not because he made money in addition to being a coach too. That's the highest level of serving. So those are the things that we should be looking at as a servant, not because somebody was able to make a dollar at a 15 cent. What did you give your time? What 15 cents did you give up?

What dollar did you give up to say about somebody else other than you yeah and the thing that um what i really appreciated about these conversations that you and i had the lessons i would say that you've taught me about this particular topic is that running a business and you know is not the same as being a great policymaker. You know, Governor Walz, he was a high school teacher. You know, he did policy. I'm not saying that I'm going to vote for that ticket. Right.

No, we're just calling it for what it is. Yeah. And people need to get that. And again, that goes back to what we talked about originally, political science. We're just talking about the information as it is. You know, it's a damn shame. Every time we acknowledge something, we got to say, I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him. I'm not going to say, I mean, it ain't even about saying we're just talking about the information as it is you know it's a damn shame every time we acknowledge something we got to say i'm not saying i'm gonna vote for them i'm not gonna say i mean it ain't about saying we're just acknowledging it yeah you know yeah so so when i'm thinking about policy like this is someone with his experience and running um a state and then

also being an asset to the government the government in a vp role with the qualities that i have like studied as a result of this conversation and these lessons with utas it's important it's not the same thing as saying hey i'm gonna come out with some new wine coolers i'm gonna come out with some new crypto currency type things right yeah it's not the same and and again they they should not blend and that's why i always tell people when people say oh man you're doing your dreams or oh yeah this is great oh i always correct people what dream this wasn't no dream this was what got there's a big difference between career and calling. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a career if you just, oh, I'm going to go get my master's, my bachelor's in political science. After that, I'm going to run for office. After that, I'm going to... No, you might be great at

running, at writing public policy, but that don't mean you're good at being a servant. We just need you on the team to write good public policy. Being a servant is selfless. It is truly putting everything before you have no time for yourself. That's what a servant is actually supposed to be. I know there's some confusion with that. It's not something you learn in school. That's why I say I'm excited about the class because I do want the science of it all. But the science of it all doesn't make me stand there and say sonja macy deserves justice or else there's no class that can teach you that to stand up with the tenacity and the guts and the gumption to stand up with police officers looking at you with uh drones flying above your head you don't learn that in no political science class only only god puts that in

in your belly so but if you can have both those things to teach other people how to be support systems for servants how to be because somebody i can talk about public policy passion all day long but somebody needs to sit down and actually write the policy, actually get the information, actually pull it together. Actually, you know, so everybody has not that I can't do it, but why not have a J do it? Cause I can't do it all. So somebody has to master that. I can do it, but why not have somebody master it?

Let me master what I do. You met, we had this conversation today. This is about everybody need to master their role. That's what push the line is all about. Master what you do. It's not a all about master what you do it's not a question about can you do it or not it's not about do you have the capability it's about the capacity i can do a lot of things but what is the where do i where do i need to be operating that best serves me or my community or the whatever it is that we're pushing and that don't mean that everybody can needs to do everything it don't mean you don't have the talent to do everything but where can you serve best because this is about service and that's where people get it confused

it's amazing and your blessing of course is you're doing the harley's side program but you have already lived you have all of the the experience you know the professional experience and receipts to really give context to what you're learning and you're going to come back and you're going to train us and so i'm going to force all the information on y'all and i'm gonna really try my best keep my my peers in my class and your prayers in my real class because i really i don't want to do the back and forth with people i really really don't the good thing about the class is online it's online with sam houston university so i'm excited about that because i don't have to see people because you know girl it'll be a mess and because people again have to learn this is not about their personal feelings and you know i'll be all in the sand well what show me the receipts you're talking about because so you know

so i'm excited that all i have to worry about is posted to a discussion board or you know we gonna have some discussions you know there's class discussion they even have some stuff set up with zooms and presentations and things like that but i i am glad that i'm not literally in the classroom every day and again let me just say this when we close out to those i remember the time dj abby tried to throw some shade about online classes on the breakfast club you remember that when he was like yes well first of all online is not easier um clearly you ain't never been online to know the difference because the requirements of having a post four or five hundred discussion posts a day to reply to somebody else to read the material to still take the test like i don't know

what he's talking about it's actually much easier to go to class once a week or twice a week and sitting there lecture bullshit your way through if you called on and go home and have nothing to do but turning a paper online the participation part is not easy because it's a part you literally are tapped in every day in one way or the other. So just want to give a shout out to everybody who's taking a class online from a university that is still a, you know, top university, not an Ivy League, you know, but I am. I'm not ashamed of Sam Houston University. i'm excited about it it's a graduate program i'm taking a j so that i can teach civics you know in at the college whether it's a community college or university very very very excited about it so yes i'm gonna be dragging through the whole process so guys like me michelle marcellus, everybody. We're all going to be dragged through the process, y'all.

So y'all get ready on Street Shopping. I'll be like, no, we learned this last week. This is what y'all don't understand. This is what I'm trying to get y'all to get. Somebody say it with me. Put a five in the chat. I love what I do. I really do.

I love what I do. And I just, if I could do it all day, every day, I really could. I just, I just love it. It brings me joy, especially because I have so many different demographics that listen to me. So, you know, when I'm doing my lives and I'll be saying, okay, let me try it this way. Okay, for the homies, this is me and this. Okay, in a relationship, okay, y'all know what this means. Relationships get people every time.

They always understand those metaphors because they're like, okay, it makes sense to me. So I just enjoy it. I enjoy, especially online because it's 150 people in the room with every background, every, I don't know who I'm talking to. So when you're able to land points where people get it,

very excited about it. So anyway, guys, I guess that's it for this episode. What you've learned about is servant leadership and the importance of it and the things you should be looking for. And again, nothing wrong with a business person, but I do want you to be mindful that the servant, the person that's the servant, and again, if you're not a spiritual person, don't worry about it. But if you are a spiritual person, if you are a religious person, if whatever you believe in, I'm a Christian, whether y'all like it or not, I am. And the word says that when it's all done and when it's time to stand before the 24 elders, ain't nobody

asking about no CDs. Ain't nobody asking about how much real estate you had. Ain't nobody asking about none of that. The question is, did you take care of the least of these so i want people in a serving capacity that's in charge of the least of these day like i need you to get that do right in public policy debating being a president a state senator what you are literally speaking on behalf of people that don't have health care people that don't people that are in prison people that need homelessness people i don. This is not the time where we judge, well, were you able to get five houses? This is the time to judge, are you going to fight to make sure people got five houses? Are you going to make sure that people have health care? Are you even, health care reform took my business. Somebody

asked me and said, well, if it hurt your business, why are you still for health care reform? Because I was willing to take, that's not for everybody but it was important that's right health care i'm glad that he was able to get health care through la health care he didn't have any insurance that was a rehab for five years i know if he had been hurt in texas he wouldn't have never had that amount of uh rehab i watched it with my uncle who did 27 years at the city of Houston. They kept him in rehab two, three weeks and sent him on about his weight. So those things matter. I'm concerned about that. So that means I'm all right.

If my business shut down, I went on and still found me something else. It was unfortunate for the employees. But at the end of the day, I will much rather, I wish my daddy had access to better health care because maybe he would have lived when he said, I'm not going to go to the hospital because I'm going home in the morning. Maybe my mama, who was working at the state at that time, in the faith-based department at the state of Oklahoma. No, I'm just going to go ahead and go home. They just want an extra bill. Her lawn collapsed the next day.

She had full insurance so yeah if that mean that sometimes a ceo ain't gonna come out on top so somebody can have some health care because guess what when i was a ceo still in my own business and i broke my leg i don't have private hair uh health care that was 35 000 that's ridiculous at 35 000 you know to be able to fix my ankle where was that money coming from that's a first year that's jada's first year of college yeah so who do you want advocating for these things the people that have been through it the people that got the stories to tell the people that cleaned out the gutters the people that know what it mean to not have health care the people to know what it mean or somebody that's saying well i got four five ten half well you probably ain't gonna relate know what it means? Or somebody that's saying, well, I got four, five, ten houses. Well, you probably ain't going to relate to what it

means to be homeless. You need to know. I know what it means to leave my house with nothing but the shirt on my back. That's what moves me through politics. That's what keeps me in politics. The pain. The pain that turns into the purpose and the passion.

Not the pension. This is not a job and a career. Where's the passion and the pain? It's not a pension test. It's passion over pension. Yeah, it has to be. That has to be. That's why we ain't getting served appropriately.

So that's my message. All right, y'all. Thank you for listening to Shay and I. You are real time. Again, we're always learning, always growing, always, you know, trying to figure this out because politics is all about figuring it out and things change. It's fluid. You know, you can see something one day and the next be like, oh, wow, I didn't really look at it that way. And that's really all it is about. It's just about looking at it through another lens. Politics is literally putting on somebody else's glasses and looking at it through their lens. You don't have to keep them on. It may give you a headache if you put them on too long because it's not your prescription. We know that they're not for you, but all I'm asking you to do is put this lens on just for a moment and just see it through their lens so you can have an understanding of what they're seeing. And that's

really what politics is about you don't have to agree like it move forward just understanding through somebody else's lens i love it and thank you for the lesson as always right for sure all right y'all make sure y'all stay tapped in a straight shot no chaser make sure you are subscribed i'm gonna keep telling y'all this every week because that's just a part of it. Check. Make sure you have the follow button, the subscribe button, wherever you get your podcasts. Please grow a friend. Not grow a friend. Bring a friend.

I really want to double these numbers because we lost a lot, like I told you. AT&T kicked that. We worked so hard. Because it was just me for a long time. You know, to build up these people for four years. And when they converted over to some new system, something, it just almost like deactivated everybody. So it was like starting from the top. So people wouldn't listen.

We still count. Like, even if you don't listen to my show every week, it still counts. And so we've lost that. And those numbers matter. So it's like somebody hacking your Instagram page, you got to start all the way over. And until realize hey i haven't seen tess on instagram in a while hey i haven't you know that happens like what i haven't been on reps club in months and

people still people said oh i just noticed you know because that doesn't make that same words yeah because they may not be listening to it every day they might listen to it every now and then so the same thing with the podcast they may not realize some people to faithfully listen all the time and some people just be like hey i want to see what's that you know so i gotta keep reminding everybody make sure you subscribe to the podcast guys and thank you again jade and we'll see you next week peace if you like what you heard on straight shot no chaser please subscribe and drop a five-star review and tell a friend straight shot no chaser is a production of the black effect podcast network and iheart radio i'm tessum figaro and i'd like to thank our producer editor mixer duane crawford and our executive producer charlamagne the god

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