The Breakfast Club - Taking Accountability ( 42 Dugg and Dr Rheeda Walker interview)

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

Today on the show we had rapper 42 Dugg stop by where he spoke about perfecting his raps in prison, shooting dice too much, linking with Yo Gotti and more. Also, they had Dr. Rheeda Walker talks black... mental health, overcoming your weaknesses, suicide crisis and more. And Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to himself for his comments on Kwame Brown. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Okay, okay, okay. I love coming here. I'm never not gonna come here. You guys are good to me. I'm a tiny mom. I'm always gonna be good to y'all. For a lot of people in the hip-hop generation, the Breakfast Club is where people get their information on the topics, on the artists, and everything like that. In that aspect, radio is still important. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:02:01 When my name come up, respect it. Good morning, USA! Monday! Yes, it's Monday. Back to the work week. Start of another work week. Envy got some fresh, fresh Beijing on this morning. I ain't got no Beijing, bro. It looks more natural. I don't know what you're talking about. You went out the country and you got the right person to get it done this time.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I don't know what you're talking about, man. Okay, all right. I just came back from working from, I don't want to say, I wasn't on vacation because I didn't take vacation days because I still came to work, right? So I just came back. In a robe. Yeah, in a robe. So I just came back from working remotely. That's what I'll call it. Isn't that nice? You told
Starting point is 00:02:55 everybody where you were last week. I don't know why you're not saying it now. I'm not. It wasn't actually vacation because I work. So I was just working remotely in Cabo's. Me and my wife's anniversary. But I had a great trip glad to be back missed the kids had a wonderful vacation well whatever you want to call it just you call it a vacation now just me and the wife it was just a good time to reset and just kind of just reconnect and it was a great great week no salute all the hairline
Starting point is 00:03:19 artists out there they did a great job. It looks natural. Goodness gracious, you're such a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm just giving them props. God, I'm giving you people props. Let me almost my nice tan and how glowy I look. I ain't noticed all that. You're glowing. You're glowing. You've been staring at me all morning. Excuse me? Well, excuse me. That's how we start.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Well, I want to say happy birthday to Notori. It was her birthday and over the weekend, she bought a house in Brooklyn. Nice. So she had a little gathering at her house. So I just want to shout out Notori. It was a really amazing time. We played Taboo.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I haven't played that in so long. You talking about Notori Notton, right? Tasha from Power. Yes. Okay. And yeah, so we were celebrating her birthday, her new house. She's engaged, all of those things. So she's having a great 2021 already.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And she has a new show that got picked up, which we discussed on The Breakfast Club. Well, congratulations to Natori. Good morning, Natori. Well, today on the show, we got a bunch of special guests joining us. We have 4-2 Doug joining us. 4-2 Doug. 4-2 Doug from Detroit, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yes, he is. I'm glad y'all say 4'2 because I'd be saying 42. It looks like 42 when you read it. I know, we keep telling you. It's 4'2 Doug. It's 4'2.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We keep telling you. All right, well, 42 Doug. Yeah. When I met him, I didn't know why they call him 4'2. He's really like that height, right? No.
Starting point is 00:04:39 He's not? He's taller than 4'2. He is? Yes. He's not 4'2. Did we even ask him why we call him 4'2? Yeah. Oh, okay. We'll find out. I like the guy, though. You know how short 4-2. He is? Yes. He's not 4-2. Did we even ask him why we'd call him 4-2? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh, okay. We'll find out. I like the guy, though. You know how short 4-2 is? I've never paid not that short to me. Not too far from you. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Not too far from you. Okay, I get it now. All right. And also, Dr. Rita Walker, right? Oh, man. Dr. Rita Walker is the author of
Starting point is 00:05:02 one of my favorite reads, The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. You know, I give it out on this radio every morning. And it's Mental Health Awareness Month, so why not talk to Dr. Rita Walker? All right, a lot to talk about. And we got front page news, but we starting off with you. Yes, and let's talk about boxing.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Everybody's excited for this next match. All right, we'll get into it next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Th it next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. NBA playoffs, all right. The Bucks beat the Heat 109-107. The Mavericks
Starting point is 00:05:35 beat the Clippers 113-103. The Nets beat the Celtics 104-93. The Trailblazers beat the Nuggets 123-109. Now the 76ers beat the Wizards 125-118. The Suns beat the Lakers 99-90. Last night. Oh, my gosh. What a great game, though. Did you talk about our Brooklyn Nets? I already said them.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Hawks beat the Knicks 107-105. That was a great game. So sad. That was sad. First of all, the Knicks played very hard. You know what I'm saying? Trey Young is just an unstoppable force in the fourth quarter. Randall was off last night.
Starting point is 00:06:07 He was off the whole game. Wow. Yeah, he was off. I don't remember. Yeah, he was off. I think he only had 13 points. He was off. He wasn't himself.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And the Grizzlies beat the Jazz 112-109. The energy in the garden was very pure, though. Oh, it was great. Okay. Oh, man. Until they lost, and then it was dead silence. Yeah, Young shut them up. It got real quiet in there.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It did. But we got all the games. Now what else we got, Yee? Well, Manny Pacquiao has announced that he's going to be fighting Errol Spence in Vegas in August. So this is the first time he's fighting since he beat Keith Thurman back in July 2019 and he went
Starting point is 00:06:42 on Twitter to reveal his plans. So he also said, I'd love to challenge the top guy, and that's the top guy, according to him, pound for pound. Yeah, that's going to be a great fight. Earl Spence is going to watch Manny Pacquiao, but it's going to be a great fight in the sense that you'll get to see Earl Spence. You know what I mean? I don't know how many people actually pay attention to Earl Spence
Starting point is 00:07:03 and how great he is, but Manny Pacquiao's a star, so he'll bring a lot of eyes to that fight. Yeah. Set up. Earl Spence is going to watch Manny Pacquiao. Of course he is. I just, you know, Pacquiao is way far from his prime, in my opinion. So?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Is it a fight that you guys really are looking that forward to? I'm not looking forward. I mean, listen, it's a good match. It's a good set of names. But Earl Spence is going to watch Manny Pacquiao. I agree. All right, and let it's a good match. It's a good set of names. But Earl Spence is going to watch Manny Pacquiao. I agree. All right. And let's talk in more sports.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Simone Biles, 24-year-old USA Gymnastics superstar. This went viral when she did the near impossible Yurchenko double pike. She did it not once but twice during a practice session. And then over the weekend, she nailed it. So people are saying she is one of the greatest gymnasts the world has ever seen. Did y'all see this video? I did. No, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Oh, my gosh. She killed it. Amazing. Everywhere. And they're saying that no woman has ever attempted this in previous competitions. And it was a historic event. She wore a leotard that had goat on it. So, yes, people were.
Starting point is 00:08:05 She killed that. And the $515 million Mega Millions jackpot, that winning ticket, was sold in Pennsylvania. It's the ninth largest jackpot awarded in the history of the game. So, yes, lottery officials did announce Friday. Somebody in Pennsylvania has that. It's the third time someone in Pennsylvania has won a Mega Millions jackpot since the lottery game began in 2002. Yeah, no more of a defeating feeling than
Starting point is 00:08:29 driving down the highway and you see the big sign for the Powerball and the Mega Millions. And I saw it this morning and saw that it had dropped down to $20 million. And so you almost kill yourself reaching for your wallet, you know what I mean, just to see. And then when you see it, you're like, damn. They didn't get it. I don't even do that no more. I just Google.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I just Google and see what a winning ticket was. But you can win something, though. You still got to check. I've won $4 quite a few times. I've definitely won $4 quite a few times. It's about to be a heat wave. I appreciate it. The first heat wave of the season started yesterday,
Starting point is 00:09:02 and they're saying it's going to continue into the work week for much of the eastern U.S. And so over 30% of the U.S. population will experience temperatures of at least 90 degrees or higher this week. So just giving you all a little heads up. I love it. All right. And that is your Front Page News.
Starting point is 00:09:17 All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Phone lines are wide open. Again, the number is 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Phone lines are wide open. Again, the number is 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The Breakfast Club. Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:09:45 This is Jay from Davis, Florida. Jay, what up, man? Get it off your chest. Man, I'm just mad. I just bought this house, and I hired this contractor. I gave him half the deposit to do my fence. Man, this man took my money. I never heard from him.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Damn it, man. Well. I tell everybody, I mean, have you been to one of my seminars or no? I did, DJ Andy. I'm still worried. And what did I tell you? I tell you, never pay the contractor's half. You buy the supplies yourself, and you pay him hourly.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That way you don't get got. You didn't listen to nothing we said? You know what I'm saying? I'm still worried. I bought the house. I had bought the house already. I lost the money. Oh, you lost the money already.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Okay. Well, I tell everybody out there, if you do buy a house that needs some repairs and you have to deal with the contractors, be careful because a lot of contractors are cons. The best way to protect yourself is to buy the supplies. If you got to put up a fence, you buy the fence yourself and then you pay them hourly to do the work. So that way it saves you a lot of money and also saves you a lot of time in getting got like yourself, sir. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's just tough, man. I'm an operator. Yeah. By the way, y'all never show out no love to the water operators, man. Well, shout out to all the water operators out there. What is a water operator, by the way? The water operators, shall we, man, we take care of them. We pull water from the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:02 They go to your house. Drinking water. We're so essential. Fire department, hospitals. We even pay the police department bills, man. Wow. But yeah, we're still not deemed to be essential. I'm going to be honest with you. I've never even heard of a water operator, sir.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I never even thought about it. But I mean, yes. Y'all are essential. You can earn up to $150, man. Like, I'm talking about a year. Wow. Wow. Well, congratulations, King.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Salute to all the water operators out there. You have a good one, man. I'm sorry about them getting you for $5,000, brother. No, no, it's all good. I appreciate y'all. I listen to y'all every day. All right, brother. Yeah, have a good one.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You too now. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Janae. Hey. My name is Janae. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Good morning, y'all. Good morning, Janae. Good morning, Janae. Janae I love you more I wanted to get off these masks. I just got off work. I got a wig on right now under this hat. We got to wear safety glasses. My mask is fogging up my glasses. I'm just over these masks. You got a lot of accessories going on. You got wigs. You got glasses.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You got masks. I got five seals. My head just feels like it's just booming right now. I can't get it. It's getting hot outside. I work in a plant. I'm just over it. Well, I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That's the area that we live in right now. Sure, mama. Go ahead. Okay, mama. Have a good one, all right? Hello, who's this? What's going on, DJ? This is Front Page.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Front Page. What up, brother? Get it off your chest, man. Oh, man. First off, I just want to say, let's just spread the word to God, son. Absolutely. Absolutely. And his family.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Now, I told you guys before, before we had the question how this virus got here and i'm talking about the coronavirus because you see on the news now it was tampered with at the last they're telling you this now so this is what i wanted to uh get off my chest now because remember when i told you about the chemtrail and how this thing got there charlamagne you said i just can't show you a chemtrail i got to have the proof of how it got here. I haven't seen. What are you talking about on the news? They said COVID was tampered with in labs. What are you talking about? I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:13:51 Wuhan. In the Wuhan labs, I'm talking about the financial institutions that paid for this enhancement of the virus to get it to transform from the facts to the human. Oh yeah, I don't have that news. What YouTube channel is that that you was watching? I know YouTube. Come on. We got it all
Starting point is 00:14:08 on Fox. We got it on CNN. This is everywhere. I got to do my research. They weren't saying anything about a bat. They were saying that they were looking for creating a vaccine and somehow it got out was what they were saying, just like any other virus that's in a lab somewhere right now that they're making vaccines for. Oh, thank you, Dramos.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Any other virus, but with this type of level of contamination, they have level four type of security in these type of facilities they use. They're dealing with high, you have to expect vaccine to change. But the point is, they're saying that it's safe, but how did they get to New York City
Starting point is 00:14:44 and explode rampant like this? This is where we got to start questioning. We can't say we don't know. Because we do know. They think to us. This is what I've been saying all the time. This is fake. It's these clouds that are building, running over your head with this calcium phosphate stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:58 It's just terrible. So we got to stop saying we don't know. Okay. Can we talk about this on Thursday? Yeah, it's Monday. It's too much for me right now. It's too much for Monday. The YouTube University classes are a bit much.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I don't feel like I can. Let's wait till Thursday. Didn't he exist in China, though, too? I don't know. It's Monday. Come on, guys. I'll be honest with you. I wasn't even listening to him.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And I hate hard drop. It was in more than just New York, too, I believe. I don't think it was just New York. Can we confirm that? YouTube confirmed that in more than New York? Yeah, I don't know if COVID was anywhere. I think COVID was than just New York, too, I believe. I don't think it was just New York. Can we confirm that? YouTube confirmed that it was in more than New York? Yeah, I don't know if COVID was anywhere. I think COVID was just in New York. I'm not sure, y'all.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm not. I'm not. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up. Now, we got rumors on the way? Yes, and let's talk about the Billboard Music Awards that were on last night. Did y'all see Drake with his son Adonis?
Starting point is 00:15:43 Super cute. Sure did. And we'll talk about it next. So keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.
Starting point is 00:16:44 That's Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
Starting point is 00:17:23 Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
Starting point is 00:18:26 This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Aliciaicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts it's about time what's going on rumor report rumor report this is the rumor report with angela yee on the breakfast club all right well the billboard music awards were yesterday and some of the top winners were the All right. Well, the Billboard Music Awards were yesterday,
Starting point is 00:19:07 and some of the top winners were The Weeknd. He took home 10 awards that night, including Top Artist and Top Male Artist. Pop Smoke got five, including Top New Artist, Top Rap Artist, Top Male Rap Artist, and Top Billboard 200 Album and Top Rap Album. Mm-hmm. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'm dropping a clue on Pop Smoke and everybody else. album and top rap album. That's huge. And everybody else. They well deserve that one. That album was great. All right. Now in other news, Michelle Obama saluted Alicia Keys at the Billboard Music Awards. She was celebrating the 20th anniversary of Songs in A Minor which came out on June 5th, 2001
Starting point is 00:19:42 when she was only 19 years old. God damn. You is Michelle Obama. You don't know my name and all that? That was Falling. Yeah, I think you don't know my name. Damn, that was 20 years ago? Jesus. Alicia's not just an artist.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Alicia's not just an artist. She's also an advocate for women and families around the world, a leader on social justice, a wife, a mentor, a mother, but most of all, she is herself. And in bearing her true self, she calls us all to do the same in our own lives
Starting point is 00:20:17 and for each other. Alicia, you are such a shining light. You inspire me and my daughters and millions of fans all around the world. No, you don't know my name was the second. That was on the diary of Alicia Keys. You're thinking of how come you don't call me maybe. Yeah. And girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That's the one with ODB sample. What? What? What? Oh, got you. But even still, 20 years ago. My God. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Now, other people who were on the stage. No, Fallen was on that album. Yeah, Fallen was on that. Now, you don't know my name, though. You don't know my name. You don't know my name was on the diary of Alicia Keys. Yeah, you got you. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Trey the Truth also got the Changemaker Award. And here he is giving his speech. It's important to change people's lives. It's important to change the thoughts of those who give up at times. And it's important to change things that weren't designed for our best interest. For me, you know, I come from the streets. We've got to protect our women. We've got to protect our children.
Starting point is 00:21:16 We've got to protect our elders. It's time for us to change the narrative and control our own story right about now. It's about stepping up, not taking no for an answer. And if you know me, you know I never back down, and most of all story right about now. It's about stepping up, not taking no for an answer. And if you know me, you know I never back down, and most of all, never give up. But one last thing, too. Daniel Cameron, we still going to need justice for Breonna Taylor.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Dropping the clues about the traitor truth. I'm glad traitor truth is who he is and what he is. But man, I would love to hear him doing a quiet storm. Don't he got a great Quiet Storm voice? Yeah, Trader Truth is amazing just to see everything that he's been doing in the community, even though he's, you know, had to go through a lot of obstacles.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Still goes through them. He never stopped. Yeah, never let up. All right. In addition to that, Drake was honored as the Artist of the Decade and he had his son Adonis, which was really cute,
Starting point is 00:22:04 on the stage with him and here is he did like a whole opening video. I'm supposed to believe in his light skin, R&B face, crying on every song does he even write his own songs? I promise you this is never gonna work
Starting point is 00:22:19 even if he had a cosign okay best I ever had was a cute one but he needs another one. Nah, another one. You know what? Okay, he did it, but can he do it again? No, again. No, again.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You know what? He's just a lucky guy. Drake should have let me write that critique. Sounds like you did. I did. No, no, no. I would have been way better. Okay, if there's one
Starting point is 00:22:45 thing I'm good at, it's building a case of doubt against Drake. You could have just pulled audio from the Breakfast Club, Drake. Alright, right here. Me, Charlamagne. LeBron was also in the video too, and he gave part of this intro. Elvis Presley, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Most streamed artists of all time. It's not luck, my good friends. It's certain destiny. I think that's obvious. Drop on the clues, Bonsford Drake. It's obvious Drake. It's undeniable. Yeah, Drake is who God wants him to be.
Starting point is 00:23:39 That's it. Simple as that. All right. Well, Adonis, like we said, Drake's three-year-old son was on stage with him to accept the award. And at one point he did burst into tears, but it was really cute. He was holding on to his dad's leg like, who are all these people in front of us? Listen to this speech. I'm really self-conscious about my music. I rarely celebrate anything.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And just for anyone watching this that's wondering how this happened, it's being so unsure how you're getting it done that you just kind of keep going in the hopes of figuring out the formula. The fear of losing it keeps you up at night. I didn't really write a grandiose speech about how to make it work or what it took because I don't quite understand it myself. I know that I've spent an incalculable amount of hours trying to analyze all the things I did wrong, but tonight, for once, I'm sure as hell we did something right. Hey, sound like he using that anxiety just to fuel him, man.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So drop on the clues bombs for Drake. Hey. Also, top Latin artist was Bad Bunny. Top Latin male artist, Bad Bunny. Top Latin female artist was Karol G. Did they announce those awards on TV? I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's a huge category. Top R&B female artist was Doja Cat. And top R&B male artist was The Weeknd. So those are just some of the winners. Who won the best rap album? You said Pop Smoke won the best rap album? Pop Smoke, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:01 All right. Well, that is your rumor report. All right. Thank you, Miss Ye. Now we got front page news next. What are we talking about? Man, this story is going to break your heart. This is one of the hardest things to watch.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And of course, it has to do with the police. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, it's Angela Yee. By using brands like Dove and Hellman's, you're supporting Unilever and the everyday good
Starting point is 00:25:28 they do. Like donating more than $25 million worth of everyday products and services to groups like Feeding America this year. Visit UnileverDoesGood.com to support communities impacted by the pandemic. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne
Starting point is 00:25:44 the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. NBA playoffs quickly. The Bucks beat the Heat. Mavericks beat the Clippers. The Nets beat the Celtics. Trailblazers beat the Nuggets. 76ers beat the Wizards. The Suns beat the Lakers. The Hawks beat the Knicks. And the Grizzlies beat the Jazz. Now, let's get right into it. Yee, what are we talking about? Man, now this is really, really hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:06 D'Artevious Barnes, he got stopped for a traffic stop. And police officers, and this was back in April 2020 that this happened, they actually took his daughter's ashes, his two-year-old daughter's ashes out and said that it tested positive for meth. Listen to
Starting point is 00:26:21 what happened. There was something else in the car, too. What? it was like molly or ecstasy crushed up no try y'all did any tests on it bro tested positive for for meth slash mdma no no no bro that's my daughter what are y'all doing bro that's my daughter bro give me that bro she's a you know my you know me, bro. Please give me my daughter, bro. Put her in my hand, bro. Y'all are disrespectful, bro. So the test kit, like, it did look like it field tested for, like, meth.
Starting point is 00:26:52 That's my daughter, bro. I got you. I believe you, man. I'm going to give it to your dad if you're cool with that. Thank you, bro. Ooh, imagine that. He's handcuffed. He's trying to get to the urn with his daughter's ashes in it.
Starting point is 00:27:02 His daughter was two years old, Tanaja Barnes, and she died of neglect and starvation inside the mom's home. So the mom was actually sentenced to 20 years in prison after pleading guilty to first-degree murder, and her boyfriend also was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to 30 years. So imagine you dealt with that tragedy, and then you get pulled over in a traffic stop,
Starting point is 00:27:23 and they take your two-year-old daughter's ashes and lie and say it tested positive it's just trauma on top of trauma yeah that's what it is and that you got to be a real sociopath as a police officer to not even have any empathy for him whatsoever like why would he like it's just then you hear it and you still give him a ticket and you know him right because they know the story. They know who he is. And so they also spilled out the ashes, by the way. What you mean? Like they spilled out some of the ashes.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So now he's suing the Springfield Police Department in federal court. He says the officers unsealed the urn, opened the urn without his consent and without a lawful basis, including a search warrant, and then desecrated and spilled out the ashes. And look how nice he would still be into the office after that. You know what I'm saying? He even told the officer
Starting point is 00:28:10 thank you. Just like, Lord have mercy, boy. Alright, now President Joe Biden is planning to meet with George Floyd's family one year after his death. That's going to be tomorrow. And they're going to miss that deadline for passing police reform legislation, but they don't want to just pass anything.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They want to make sure it's a very comprehensive bill in the family. Tamika Mallory, when she came on the show, said that's what the family would want also because they did have this deadline to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, which was originally introduced in June of 2020 and passed by the House of Representatives in March. But it's unlikely that they're going to sign that legislation tomorrow. And we don't need no symbolism. You know what I'm saying? If you're not going to get rid of qualified immunity and really have something in there,
Starting point is 00:28:54 some real teeth in there that'll keep police officers from, you know, brutalizing us, then it's pointless. So don't just pass something and say you did it just because it's the anniversary of George Floyd's death. That's just optics. No, we don't want optics't just pass something to say you did it just because it's the anniversary of george boyd's death that's just optics no we don't want optics we want actual substance well yeah so they're not doing that so uh that's the good news they're gonna actually work on making sure that it is something that is much needed and not just pass anything with very important things taken out of it you can't do that all right and there were a lot of shootings over the weekend i'm sure you guys saw that as a matter of fact, in Brooklyn, there was a helicopter flying around because somebody, I guess, shot someone with a gun. It was right down the block from me. So I kept hearing that all night. And then two people were killed and 12 injured in a shooting
Starting point is 00:29:36 at a birthday party in New Jersey. So these two victims were age 30 and 25. They died at the scene. This was in Fairfield Township. They both suffered fatal gunshot wounds and were found dead at the scene. Police have not identified these victims by name. Also in South Carolina, there was a teen girl killed and 14 people injured in a shooting at an illegal South Carolina concert.
Starting point is 00:29:58 A 14-year-old girl was killed and at least 14 other people injured. Multiple gunmen opened fire into the crowded concert. It was in a residential area of North Charleston at about 10.30 p.m. And then Naughty Bye in North Charleston. That's horrible, man. But it's summertime, though.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So, you know, when you talk about these heat waves and you talk about things getting to 80-something degrees and 90-something degrees, yes. What 50 Cent said in the hood, summertime is the killing season. It's hot out there. That's a good enough reason? Yeah. All right. Well, that is the killing season. It's hot out there. That's a good enough reason? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Well, that is your front page news. All right. Now, when we come back, 4-2 Doug will be joining us. We'll kick it with him. If you don't know, he signed to Yo Gotti and Lil Baby. He has the song with Lil Baby that I'm sure you guys know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we pay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we pay.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So, 4-2 Doug, when we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this.
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Starting point is 00:33:49 Hey! Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. His album is out right now. 4-2, Doug, ladies and gentlemen. 4-2.
Starting point is 00:34:03 What's happening? What's happening? Peace, King. You wouldn't call this an album, would you? Freedom Boys, you wouldn't call this album would you freedom boy freedom boys even call it out? Okay, okay, okay, okay? Okay, there by say project, so I don't be knowing now I wonder what's the what's the science behind it like why do they say you know? It's 49 minutes long. it's a bunch of songs. Why do they say it's a project and not an album?
Starting point is 00:34:26 I wonder what the... Trying to keep people in them deals. What? Trying to keep people in them deals, straight up. How did you get your name, 4-2-Doug, for people that don't know? Well, my name really Dugga. And 4-2, that's just some s*** me and my homeboys put together on the positive side. As far as making music go. It's really Dugga and Faux 2 that just, you know, some s*** me and my homeboys put together on the positive side as far as making music go.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's really Dugga, so we I shortened it from Dugga to Dugg and Faux 2. Gotcha. Oh, they go to CEO. Faux 2 though. They go to CEO. Gotti, what's happening Gotti? Happy belated Gotti. Happy belated. You had a lit birthday party.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But I want to say this is an unusual situation because you're signed to both Yo Gotti and Lil Baby. And himself. And himself. He partners. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So talk about that because I know that's unusual. It's not like y'all already had a situation together.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I mean, it was something. What you mean by unusual, though? I mean, because it's not like you guys already have other artists signed together oh man baby yeah I was just hustlers you know saying like baby hustle I'm a hustler Doug a hustler it's no different than you know three three dudes get money to go but how did it happen like how to come about how did y'all meet up I'm gonna do it to y'all well I'm gonna let Doug tell y'all this. Well, I met Baby Gambling in LA. Me and T pushed up on him one time at a late, during the BET Awards.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You know, we was just kicking it how we kick it. I never told him I rap though, so he really ain't know I rap. You know what I'm saying? He just thought you was good with the dice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I met him again after that and we gambled again,.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So. Was you busting his ass? Yeah, I f***ed him. How much you won? I probably won like $100,000 the first time. Damn. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Second time, we probably won like $30,000, $40,000. But, you know, me and him was kicking it and s***. Just kicking it regular and s***. And then, I called him one time. He was in Miami with his brother and shit. I called him. And when they picked up, they was rapping my song. They was rapping one of my songs, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:32 And he didn't know it was you? Yeah. His brother had told him, like, you know, this dude and shit. So he was rapping this shit, going crazy. So I was recording him and shit. I'm talking shit to him. And he, like, come out to Atlanta and fuck with me. But then, God, he came to Detroit. You know what I'm talking to him. And he, like, come out to Atlanta and fuck with me. But then, God, he came to Detroit.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You know what I'm saying? God, he came to Detroit to do a performance. And he hit me up, like, my daddy, my homeboy called me with God, he on the phone. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, you know, I'm thinking they playing and shit. So he like, yeah, I got a concert today. You fucking with it? I'm like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So I pulled up on him and s***. He brung me out. And since then, you know what I'm saying, it's just been a whole group thing. How is it growing up in Detroit as a street artist? Was it hard? Like, did the radio embrace you? Oh, no, it was f***ing with me.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Okay, okay. It was f***ing with me off the get-go. Like, Detroit, because I used to do high school tours and s***. You know, that's how I really got high, doing the high school tours and s***. So the radio was behind me. Can we talk about this song to your mom, too? Because you said you got out of jail, right? So that song, you were apologizing to your mother for getting locked up. And then you violated your parole.
Starting point is 00:37:44 What happened? I wasn't apologizing to your mother yeah for getting locked up and then you violated your parole what happened it was I want to apologize yeah I want to apologize her for getting locked up I was apologizing to her for getting kicked out of boot camp you know what I'm saying so I did I was supposed to do four in four months so I had like four years in and one month and they was gonna send me the last 90 days they sent me to boot camp to do 90 days so I did like 37 days
Starting point is 00:38:11 and then I end up getting kicked out I end up catching a series of assault I end up getting kicked out and like they gave me a phone call
Starting point is 00:38:19 before I went back to prison they like call your emergency contact I call my mom I just can feel it like in her voice like she was
Starting point is 00:38:27 f***ed up. Like she couldn't believe like I blew, you know what I'm saying? I blew cut my arm and s***. So they sent me straight to the hole and s***. And I like made this song like as the muscle went on. You started rapping in prison, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And how old were you? I'd say probably like 19. Okay. What made you start rhyming? I was in the hole, like stressed out in that bitch, like the hole. Like, f*** you up. You could come out one hour out the day. I was in there for like 60
Starting point is 00:38:59 days straight. Damn. That's very inhumane to put somebody in solitary confinement in the hole for 60 days. Shop. They supposed to give me some money for that shit. Like all the
Starting point is 00:39:10 youth offenders they sued the state. Everybody got money and shit but I was already rapping. Was you rapping before that
Starting point is 00:39:17 or you started rapping in prison? Like how did you learn you know the 16 bars it was just straight rapping like how did you learn? Nah see I didn't know what 16 was. I didn straight rapping like how did you learn no see i didn't know what 16 i didn't know none of that you're trying to stay sane yeah you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:39:30 saying i'm happy standing rapping about being hungry real like i'm gonna turn invisible i'm gonna be stretched out so rapping was like i'm just putting together the show week when I first heard it was so weak What was you So they gave they give you pen and pad in the hole Okay, okay, I think they give you a pad they do I was right now I like my legal work Mm-hmm. So I write rap writing there on like my legal work. So I write rap on the back of my legal work.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It was so weak. I ripped this shit up. But I ended up going back to the hole again for another little, some bullshit. And then I figured it out like. Yeah, when did you realize that you had it, that it wasn't trash? When you was like, oh no, I can do this. My second time in the hole, my second time in the hole, I'm like, this shit's starting to sound okay.
Starting point is 00:40:30 You remember the rap? I'm trying. Yeah, so it's a song called Free My Eyes that I made. And the rap I had was like, if I'd have had it, I'd have seen it. It's out, though. I ended up doing the song. I ended up actually recording one of my first songs. Yeah, I know had it, I done seen, you know, it's out, though. I end up doing the song. I end up actually recording one of my first songs and shit. Yeah, I know the rap, though.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It was hard. I feel like you used to get into a lot of fights in jail. Like, people probably used to try you because of your side. I don't want to say try me, but you know what I'm saying? I was one of the motherfuckers that always talking shit to a motherfucker. So you got to put me in that motherfucker surrounded by people that got life, 30 years. You know what I'm saying? I got four years.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Damn. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So they just fucking with you. So the shit coming from me down there, like, me saying fuck you. You know what I'm saying? So they like, you know what I'm saying? Motherfucker down there, go and stab your head in that bitch. You doing all day.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So, you know what I'm saying? I got a lot of that, but everybody, I knew, my f***er down there, go set your head in that bitch. You doing all day. So, you know what I'm saying? I got a lot of that, but everybody, I know a lot of people. I know a lot of people in jail. All right, we got more with 4-2 Doug when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 00:41:39 We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with 4-2 Doug. Charlamagne. How was it, like, just growing up in Detroit? Was you always in the street? Was it dice? Did you ever focus on school or just what? So I probably caught my first case at 12.
Starting point is 00:41:57 You know what I'm saying? Trying to get your money back from the dude? No. I had a stolen car. And, man, I swear to God, I had, like, bad luck or something. I mean, I can't even drive, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:42:11 But all I knew was the keys was right there, and this had a car, so I'm like, he in the house cleaning up and shit, so I'm like, waiting on him to go to the back. He goes to the back.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I dabs in his car, you feel me? I dabs in his car, shit feel me? I dabs in his car. And my mother looked so bad. Soon as I bag up out of the car, police surround that mother. You know what I'm saying? Why? Man, my mother was stolen.
Starting point is 00:42:37 But soon as you, oh, he stole it. I don't know who stole it. Okay, okay, okay. Got you. Got you. Got you. I thought you were saying you stole his car. The car's already stolen. No, I'm like, I mean, got you, got you. I don't got a **** on it. I thought you were saying you stole his car. The car's already stolen. No, I'm like, I'm in his ****.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Got you. You know what I'm saying? So when they pull up, **** was looking crazy. As soon as they pull up and **** out, I like throw it in reverse and hit the police car.
Starting point is 00:42:57 When I hit that bitch, I like rolled out of that bitch like James Bond. I saw the guy, I rolled out of that bitch and fall instantly. As soon as I fall, police come, hit me in my motherfucking jaw. Boom!
Starting point is 00:43:09 Taking you to jail and shit. So then I had a little case of shit. Stolen car, pistol case. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. But it's still fun growing up with me. Does the city embrace you now? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Okay. Hell yeah. What is it like when you go back? Because Detroit has to. In the mall, like, you know what I'm saying? They f***ing me the whole way. I f*** with them, though. If it was up to me, I wouldn't have left.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Mm-hmm. You know, but s***. Who told you to leave? Who told you that the move would be to go to ATL? Man, a guy told me. Mm-hmm. S***. My lawyers told me.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Everybody. Everybody like, man, you need to forget about this shit. But, you know, work-wise, it's probably easier to be, because if you in Atlanta, there's a lot of artists that record and work out there. Yeah, for sure. You for sure bump into a lot of, not a bunch, into a few different motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So that's a good thing. But on the negative side, it's like you don't know nobody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So imagine moving somewhere where you don't know nobody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So imagine moving somewhere where you don't know nobody. You can't really go outside or none of that shit. Because you out of bounds. You can't go there, just be going in places.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You don't know what area this is. You don't know what's going on. So that's the only minus I don't f*** with about Atlanta. Because I don't know nobody. I really can't hang. You know, I ain't no inside the house, mother******. I'ma let's go have fun.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yo, Gotti probably think that's for the best, right? Studio, work. Yeah, that would be.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Gotti, is moving a mandatory adjustment when you making, you know, that transition from the streets to the rap game?
Starting point is 00:44:41 Nah, I wouldn't say it's a mandatory thing. I still got cribs in Memphis, you know what I'm saying? But it's just, it's situational, who you are and what you're doing and what you was doing before you was successful. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:55 So I relate to what he going through because I had the same issues in Memphis with the police, you know what I'm saying? When they know you from a certain life before you was successful in music they don't never forget that like even though you may start doing this they still look at you as this so you know your name just gonna be everything that happened really around your way I mean so anything that happened around your way they don't connect you to or try to connect you to me I feel like you had some say in it or you know what i mean so i think for me that's what i seen happen with a little bro you know i mean
Starting point is 00:45:30 like a lot of you know you know we don't get into it too much but you know a lot of things they were trying to legal thing they were trying to put them in well like they did to the wrong like he wasn't even in detroit like that you know what i'm saying like he wasn't even detroit and then he's like tanks you know what i mean putting out warrants for him for this and that we know he with us you know what i'm saying we know he was that was sure so when we started saying that happening we like bro they are they on you too they own you too much like they like they after you i ain't never seen no like that like when they lie on you so when they get to their that's what you know what I mean? I ain't never seen no shit like that. Like, when they lie on you. So when they get to their point, that's when it's, you know what I mean? Like, my motherfuckers told me that police done, like, told my motherfuckers, told the
Starting point is 00:46:09 judge. They seen me. Like, the police told the judge, they said, like, y'all didn't get no license, but nothing. He like, no, I identified him as Fortune D. I know how he look. I know who he is. You know what I'm saying? I'm not even in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Damn. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the shit, like, took me. Like, damn, I know who he is. I'm not even in Detroit. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the shit, like, took me. Like, damn, what's going on? Yeah. Like, y'all lying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Like, this shit was crazy. Does that make you have to think about your lyrics, too? Because you know they be paying attention to what you say in songs. Yeah, but I really be want to say, fuck they ass for real. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know what I'm saying? It shouldn't be like that. I don't know what I did. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know what I'm saying? It shouldn't be like that. I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:46:46 what I did. You know what I'm saying? What I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? How y'all not focusing on what I'm doing? Yeah. That's what I ain't get,
Starting point is 00:46:55 you know what I'm saying? So when they laugh at me, I'm like, man, this shit be crazy to me. Like, I just had a court day about this shit
Starting point is 00:47:02 and they laughed at me. You know what I'm saying? My lawyer like, we want to go past the preliminary hearing, but I'm telling the lawyer, like, bro, I need to hear him. I want to see him tell this judge he saw me. I need to see this shit. I don't believe it. Like, I don't believe he said this shit.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't tell the lawyer. I don't believe he said this shit. He like, man, you know what I'm saying? This is what's best. You beat the case though, right? Hell no. I was still fighting it. That sucks that you even got to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:47:32 If you can show that you wasn't even there. It's just because it costs money, right? To have to fight these people. I showed that I wasn't there. They just say, show some shit for this day. You know what I'm saying? That type of gang, they get the plan. Yeah, they don't even tell you what day this shit happened.
Starting point is 00:47:46 They'd throw three days out there. Like, all right, I'll prove you was at four or three these days. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. You fucking up their money, dog, because you the guy
Starting point is 00:47:56 that's going to come out of the city and empower so many other kids and keep them from going to prison. That's what that shit about. It gotta be about something. I'm suing their ass, though. Why? You gonna sue the police?
Starting point is 00:48:07 What? You got to. I'm just lying to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You gotta get sued. Straight up. When y'all gonna stop?
Starting point is 00:48:16 Mm-hmm. Like, I'm on hospital rest right now. I ain't even put in to get off this motherfucker just so they know where I'm at. Damn. That's how intense this shit is. Damn. I don't even want to get off this motherfucker yet. they know where i'm at dang that's how intense this is i don't even want to get off this mother yet damn you know what i'm saying that makes sense like crazy when do you when you schedule to get off i don't know i ain't putting in for it i'm
Starting point is 00:48:35 like i need to be on this mother so they can't keep playing with me you know what i'm saying y'all can't say i'm here because this mother***er going to tell y'all, Rob, man. You know what I'm saying? Before you went to prison and started rapping, what did you think you were going to do? Get money. I didn't f***ing know what I was going to do. I didn't care what it was. I knew I was going to get money.
Starting point is 00:49:01 If you winning $100,000 in dice games, I think you doing all right. Man, that was cool. You know what I'm saying? I was going to figure some shit out. What's the most you ever lost, though? So over a period of time, I probably lost like $800,000. Ooh. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:15 This is like right after I get signed. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm at my best. I got all the motherfucking money in the world. But the motherfuckers, they know I'm good. I'm not handsome. They made me start shooting out of cuts. Mm-uckers, they know I'm good on my hands. They made me start shooting out of cut. You know what I'm saying? So I lost like
Starting point is 00:49:32 three months straight without a win. Let me tell you, them boss got it, yeah. Me and God didn't win that yet. What you wouldn't know. I don't f***ing know who done done it. Alright, we got more with 4-2 Doug when we come back.
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with 4-2 Doug. Gotti, what's your plan, Gotti? I mean, you got all these artists.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I'm sure a tour is coming up as soon as the world opens back up so much success is it one of those things you be like you know what I might sell my company or are you going to sit back and continue on because you got so many different artists selling so many records now it's the point where what's next for God money bag Yoda been number one two weeks
Starting point is 00:50:19 yeah yeah shout out to baby number one two weeks back to back nah I mean you know this is our thing the, I mean, you know, this is our thing. You know, the way I see it, man, this whole thing is our thing. It ain't just me. So, you know, I'm always going to do what's best for everybody at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:35 But we're going to do a lot of things together. You know, it's just been the pandemic. So, everybody, once they open everything back up, we're going to try to put together this tool. We all can go out together. We're working together this tool where we all can go out together. We're working on a project where we all can do this one project together. So we're just letting everybody handle their business. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:51 And then when everybody finish handling their business, we're going to come together and do something. I like the way Gotti does it. Usually you find one artist mad at the CEO or two artists. Ain't no artist mad at you. Gotti, everybody looks like you, Gotti. We don't play no money games. We don't play no money games.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Gotti too cool, man. You know what I'm saying? How the f*** you gonna get mad at Gotti? Word, word, word. So for it too, Doug, that means you have some artists signed to you also, right? Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So tell me who your artists are. I got Big Money Key. I got Dre. I got Tay. I got Mazel. I got Baby Money. You know what I'm saying? I got Free Bag Boy Mail. I got Tay, I got Mazel, I got Baby Money. You know what I'm saying? I got Free Bag Boy Mail.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I got all the squad. And Detroit got such a distinctive sound, too. I think Memphis got the best rappers right now, and I think Detroit is number two as far as city-wise. How you gonna switch watches in the middle of the interview, man? What just happened?
Starting point is 00:51:43 I saw that Patty, man. Give me the diamond testing the interview, man. I know, I was like, what just happened? I saw that Patty, man. Mother. Give me the diamond testing. What is that? Let me see. You look at the, oh. Oh, he got a diamond testing. I'm going to turn this on.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I got to let it warm up first. That mother. Got to let it warm up. Let me ask you a question though, Doug. It ain't got to be warm. Hold on. No, this got to warm up. Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It got to be cold. Have you made the transition from the streets to the rap game yet? Yeah, for sure. All the way. All the way. I don't do shit illegal. What's the... It takes shows.
Starting point is 00:52:13 What's more dangerous? The rap game or the streets? The streets. But rap, I don't know. Go hand in hand, though. You know what I'm saying? Because you gotta protect. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:24 My fucker gonna try you. Mm-hmm. Because you a rapper. You know what i'm saying because you gotta protect you know what i'm saying gonna try you because you're a rapper you know what i'm saying but when try you that take you back to the streets you know what i'm saying so it's like hand in hand you gotta know how to watch yourself right you can't move the same it's not really sure now everybody know you the world's looking at you you gotta eliminate you know what i'm saying god what's the end game for Doug, you think? Not the end game, but like, you know, what's the next three years of Doug look like to you? Man, Doug just getting started.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You know what I'm saying? Like, Doug got a long way to go. He just getting started, you know what I mean? So, and it's a good start, you know, to have records like he have, you know what I mean? To even be a part of records, like the Lil Baby record, the record he just put out with Rowdy Rich,
Starting point is 00:53:08 that shit going crazy. That's going to be a platinum record, you know what I mean? This is the beginning of his career, you know what I'm saying? So, I can't even see the end at this point, because I think it's just starting. He got so long to be in the game, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:24 a year from now, two years from now, he ain't telling what he going to be thinking or feeling, which way he going to want to go. You know what I mean? I'm just riding with him whichever way he want to go. I'm just in the car with him. What do you want to do, Doug? What do you see for yourself?
Starting point is 00:53:37 What's your vision? I'm done rapping. No, I'm talking s***. I'm just, you know what I'm saying? I'm just you know what I'm saying I'm just taking it as it comes for real I'm just trying
Starting point is 00:53:51 to get better each and every day each and every song you know what I'm saying build more relationships take care of my family well listen man 42 Doug
Starting point is 00:54:00 it was a pleasure to sit here and build with you for a little while Freedom Boys is out right now. Yes. You going to come back out in two weeks with another album?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Hell no, not two weeks, but you know what I'm saying. Right around the corner. He got a lot of material. Volume three. You dig. What's next for the squad, Gotti? Who's next on the lineup? Man, everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know what I'm saying? You know, the way we rock over here, Charlamagne, I don't pick dates. I don't pick dates. I don't pick who up next. You know what I mean? Whoever ready to come, when they ready to come, that's who go. You know what I mean? Like I said, everybody control their own vision, their own destination.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Everybody's shining together. Yeah, everybody's shining together over here. Everybody's bosses. Youngster working on some new shit. I know that. I was just talking to him about that. That's that guy right there. So I know Youngsta coming. ESTG. He just turned this whole shit in already.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Bag already back in the studio. I just left him in LA. Don't stop. He already in the studio. Man, everybody's just working, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I thought Doug and EST was a group at one point. We is. Okay, because y'all had so much studio so man everybody you know everybody's just working bro you know yeah i thought doug and est was a group at one point we is they got okay y'all had so much i had so much music together i was like damn well yeah that's what's happening with 42 doug freedom boys is out right now what'd i say
Starting point is 00:55:17 oh 42 doug my fault 42 doug it's the breakfast club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country.
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Starting point is 00:56:28 The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love
Starting point is 00:56:57 hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
Starting point is 00:57:36 learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Well, Tiny and T.I.'s son, King Harris, they tried to press him and he held his ground. He actually during this altercation, well, it wasn't an altercation, but while they were trying to press him, he went to the car, got his backpack, and came back, and here's what it sounded like. You from here? What's up with you, bro? You had your head around me, talking like your ass, like you wanna do
Starting point is 00:58:56 something. What's up, bro? What's up, bro? What? Or what? Or what? Hey, man. That's Tip Boy right there now. Relax or what? Nothing. Or what? Nothing. Or what? He's not so busy. Hey, man. That's Tip Boy right there now.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Leave Tip Boy alone now. That bloodline different. Okay? You heard what Tip told you. I never ran a back down from no... Boy, I don't see nothing wrong with what he did. My man walking out the museum. Somebody put their arm around me talking. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Back up off me. I got to protect myself. Protection. Defend myself. Can you imagine just being like, you know, a famous kid and then people is always trying to come at you crazy? Can't let that happen. I don't got to be a kid to feel that.
Starting point is 00:59:38 What you talking about? You done seen me almost get jumped in front of this radio station. My nerves bad. Okay. All right. Now, Yvonne Orji is reflecting on the last insecure table read ahead of the final season of insecure. I'm so sad that this is coming to an end,
Starting point is 00:59:54 but she was on Jimmy Kimmel live. And here's what she said about how emotional it got. The final season of insecure. Is it getting sentimental on set today? It did because we actually had our final table read. Oh, today was the last table read. Yeah, there might have been some thug tears shed. There were, huh?
Starting point is 01:00:10 There was a little man on it. But prior to today, me, Ethan, I would like be on each other's like sets, our apartment sets. And we'd be like, I'm taking that when we wrap. No, no, no, I want that from your apartment. And so we're like calling dibs. Damn. That's the end of an era. I'm sad, man.
Starting point is 01:00:27 That's one of my favorite shows. Did you know T.I.'s son is only 16? I thought he was older than that for some reason. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:00:33 He's got a few of them. You might have been thinking of another one. Maybe. Maybe. Think of another one, maybe. That's a very random,
Starting point is 01:00:38 just ignore Yvonne Orgy and Issa Rae. I'm thinking about it. He went to the car to grab his backpack, but I'm thinking he's of age but I'm like,
Starting point is 01:00:45 damn, he's only 16 years old which is crazy. How old you got to be the only gunner, George? 21. Oh,
Starting point is 01:00:52 you a snitch, bro. You just a whole lot. We also don't, we don't know what was in the backpack. I just said defend myself. That's all I said.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You said it, you the snitch. No, I didn't know it was a gun. I shouldn't even assume that. Why did I even assume that? I don't know. I shouldn't even assume that. Why did I even assume that? I don't know. I shouldn't have assumed
Starting point is 01:01:08 that. No, you're absolutely right. I should not have assumed that. All right. Now, since we're talking about Insecure Sex in the City, that reboot is going to feature Mr. Big, Aiden Shaw, and Steve Brady. When it was reported that the show was coming back, that reboot, they hadn't signed on Mr. Big and Steve Brady
Starting point is 01:01:23 yet to be part of that reboot but now they are going to be on there so you know that should be exciting we also let you guys know that kim cattrall aka samantha will not be returning for her role so it was a fallout that she had with her other co-stars on there i could give a damn when we gonna get us a girlfriend's reboot okay when we gonna get our girlfriends miniseries how many Sex and the City closures do we don't get? We ain't had no closure for Girlfriends yet, but we done had seven
Starting point is 01:01:48 different closures for Sex and the City. If I was Mr. Big, I wouldn't come back either. I'm like, what else do y'all need me to do? He is coming back. Oh, never mind.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I ain't even here. Are you listening, man? No. Are you listening? No. He's definitely not listening. No. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Because as soon as you started talking about Sex and the City again, I don't want to hear it because I started thinking about why we don't get more Girlfriends. But whatever. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Now, Lady Gaga was discussing on the Me You Can't See, which is a new docuseries that's co-created by Prince Harry and Oprah. That is to tackle the stigma of mental health. And here's what she had to say about an incident that happened to her when she was 19 years old. She said she was raped and left pregnant. First, I felt full on pain. Then I went numb. And then I was sick for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks after. And I realized that it was the same pain that I felt when the person who raped me dropped
Starting point is 01:02:43 me off pregnant on a corner at my parents' house because I was vomiting because I'd been being abused. I was locked away in a studio for months. Damn. I'm sending healing energy to Lady Gaga. And she also will not name the person who did this to her. Here's what she had to say a producer said to me take your clothes off and i said no and i left and they told me they were gonna burn all my music they didn't stop asking me and then i just frozen i just i don't i don't even remember i understand this me too movement i understand that some people feel really comfortable with this. And I do not.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I do not ever want to face that person again. Oh, Lady Gaga. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. All right. Thank you, Miss Ye. Charlamagne, who you giving that donkey to? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Before after the hour, I got to give donkey of the day to me, Lenard McKelvey. I need to come to the front of the congregation. I'd like to have a word with myself this morning. Okay. Yes. All right. It's not the first time, guys. Relax.
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Starting point is 01:04:22 It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkeys of the Day, ask Charlamagne I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day Is a little bit of a mixed question So like a donkey, hee haw, Donkey of the Day The Practice Club, bitches Now I've been called a lot in my 23 years That Donkey of the Day is a new one
Starting point is 01:04:41 Donkey of the Day for Monday, May 24th goes to me, Leonard McKelvey. Contrary to popular belief, this is not the first time I've given myself Donkey of the Day because Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I mean, I may be kind of biased towards certain people, but I don't have any bias when it comes to myself. If I'm wrong, if something I do or say
Starting point is 01:05:02 doesn't sit right with my spirit, I have to apologize and do better moving forward, and that's what I'm about to do right now. I want to apologize to Kwame Brown and Kwame Brown's family. I want to apologize to his father, Bill Brown, and the family of his father. See, last week on this radio, in my attempt to defend a Charleston, South Carolina-born brother like myself, I revealed too much information about that man's family. And even though all that stuff is public record, some things just don't need to be said on the radio, and they definitely don't need to be said by me.
Starting point is 01:05:32 When I look back on the way I communicated that, I communicated it all wrong, and I unintentionally triggered trauma in a lot of folks I grew up with who I genuinely love. I'm sure I caused a lot of pain for not only Kwame Brown, but for his family, especially his family in my hometown amongst corner South Carolina. You know how I know? Because I spoke to a few of them. I've been on the phone this weekend with mothers of children and their children. Salute to Shaliba and her daughter, Brianda.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I was on the phone with sisters like Wyalet. Salute to Wyalet. Oh, she cursed me out good. And, you know, I was apologizing for triggering them, causing them pain because I was casually discussing their family's trauma. And that's something that I have to stop doing. That's something that we all have to stop doing. I was talking to my sacred purpose coach, Yadier Alba, this weekend. She's like a spiritual therapist. I have her in my clinical therapist.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And that's what we were talking about, how we casually discuss each other's traumas. I didn't even think about when I spoke on, you know, Kwame and his family, how many people were impacted by those things I was speaking on. I mean, that's that's generational. OK, I caused pain and unintentionally, unintentionally poked at people's wounds, OK, wounds that will probably never heal. And I can't take back those words, but I can't apologize. You know, I think oftentimes we meaning black people, we fight each other with our demons. Was it true or false? Whatever is the worst thing we know about a person? I think we I think we know about a person we default to that. And that was not my intention. I was not in any way, shape or form trying to paint Kwame in a negative light.
Starting point is 01:07:00 OK, that black man is not my op. He wasn't my op when I said it. In my mind, I'm defending that man. But I should have been defending him as Leonard Charlemagne, the God McKelvey, the professional and not Leonard Larry. Whatever you want to call me from Moncks Corner, South Carolina, talking like I'm home in the town on why I believe they need to leave Kwame Brown alone. That was whack because the conversation didn't even have to go there. The conversation should have been about basketball. Yes, leave Kwame Brown alone because he achieved a goal and a dream that 1.3% of NCAA seniors will achieve. And 0.03% of high school seniors. You know how small a number that is? And, you know, that's just simply being drafted in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:07:36 If you play 13 seasons and make $65 million, you're a success. Okay? If you work 13 years anywhere and make that kind of money, you a success. So salute to that man. The only expectations we have to live up to is our own. That's why I always say success is subjective Okay, my views of success may be different than yours as long as you're happy That's all that matters but we didn't even get into that conversation because my mind automatically went to something that didn't that it didn't even have to go to and
Starting point is 01:08:02 Doing that I unintentionally caused trauma that, I unintentionally caused trauma. And since I unintentionally caused trauma, I have to be intentional about causing healing. I'm not about to sit around and have beef with another black man for nothing. Trust me, as y'all know, I have a lot of real enemies who are gunning for me every day. Kwame Brown is not going to be one of them, okay? I totally understand why Kwame Brown was upset at me.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I went low. That wasn't my intention. But in hindsight, it was low. And Kwame took it to the floor with me. And y'all be online so excited, ready to see black people go back and forth and tear each other down. I'm not doing that. I'm not going back and forth. If I feel like I wronged somebody, I'm going to apologize. That's what I think a good man does. A good man apologizes for the mistakes, you know, that he made. But a great man corrects them. Hopefully, I get the opportunity to do that one day. But for now, I just apologize. And I'm not beefing with a black man who's born where I was born and has family where I'm from. There's nothing on this
Starting point is 01:08:53 planet that I love more than God, my family, and Monk's Corner, South Carolina, the whole low country, the 843. Drop on the clues box for the 843. Okay. So when I say I sincerely apologize to Kwame Brown and his family and the family of Bill Brown and Monk's Corner, I mean that. Only thing I'm responsible for is my energy and recognizing my own insanity. And Eckhart Tolle once said to recognize one's own insanity is, of course, the arising of sanity, the beginning of healing and transcendence. I truly believe if trauma can be passed down through generations, then so can healing. Me, Lenard McKelvey, I have never claimed to be perfect. In fact, I'm far from it. I'm not going to always get it right. The same things people
Starting point is 01:09:36 listen to me for, the same things they hate me for, because I talk too much. I overshare. I overshare about myself. I overshare about others. And that has historically got me in trouble. But we are all works in progress. And one of the most healing things you can do is recognize where in your life you are your own poison. And last week I was poisoned. Daquame Brown, Bill Brown, and their families. For that, I sincerely apologize. Please let Remy Ma give me, Leonard McKelvey, Charlemagne Tha God the biggest hee-haw.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid mother f***er. Are you dumb? Yes, indeed. Meaning, I am dumb at times. I didn't ask you, Drummer. Sorry. Alright. Well, up next, Dr. Rita Walker will be joining us.
Starting point is 01:10:22 We'll kick it with Dr. Rita Walker when we come back. This is actually a great segue because I always give out the book, The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health by Dr. Rita Walker. It's one of my favorite books of the last couple of years and I can't wait to discuss with her. Alright, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast
Starting point is 01:10:38 Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest joining us this morning, Dr. Rita Walker. She is the author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health, and it is Mental Health Awareness Month, so we couldn't ask for a better guest. Good morning, Dr. Walker.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Good morning, Charlamagne. How you doing? I am blessed, black, and highly favored. And I'm about to ask you the same question, but I need an honest answer. OK, how are you? I'm good. I would put my PF, my psychological fortitude rating at about a seven and a half. OK, wow. Why is it like that this morning? Just because it's in the semester. Grades are done. My dog is behaving and I can't complain. I really just can't complain.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Absolutely. I'm glad to hear that. Well, you know, it is mental health awareness month. And I have a lot of different questions I want to ask. You know, number one, the pandemic. I don't think none of us are the same as we were before the pandemic. How do you think the pandemic moving forward will affect our social skills? Because I feel a little bit awkward when I'm out and around a lot of people, more so than usual.
Starting point is 01:11:48 How do you think it will impact our social skills? First and foremost, everybody has to be aware of how they're feeling about it, you know, and how they're feeling about being out in public and interacting with folks. We had our first birthday party this weekend and folks asked and I appreciate it. Like, are you hugging? You know, what are you doing? And I had to be comfortable saying like, yeah, I'm not really ready to hug right now. And we have to be honest about that. And I get it. You know, there's a lot of pressure. And also you want to hug people, right? Like we haven't seen a lot of folks in a long time and we want to connect.
Starting point is 01:12:19 But we have to be aware and just honor, you know, our own feelings and our own anxieties about what it means to connect with other people right now. You know, I think the pandemic made people see themselves for the first time. And a lot of folks have feelings they may not have had before. So the depression and the anxiety, they got it, but they don't really know what it is. So how can people identify, you know, those illnesses in themselves and maybe in others? Well, you know, I try to talk about that in the book because in a lot of ways, we normalize mental health issues. So we somehow figure out how to navigate overwhelming anxiety and depression in a way that we couldn't hide from it when we were in the pandemic, basically. And any individual, I will always say, if there is something about your level of worry or your level of not being interested in being bothered with people impacts your day-to-day life and your happiness, then it's probably time to at least get an assessment. So whenever people talk to a mental health professional, they think, well, that means I'm crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And so I need somebody to help me with my crazy. Well, it starts with an assessment and that individual being able to say, okay, tell me how you're doing with this. Or is this problem showing up in different situations in your life with different relationships? And is it out of proportion to what, so maybe other people have said like, yeah, that thing that you do right there, like that's problematic. And they help you evaluate how much of the issue is actually a problem for you? Or is it just something that's idiosyncratic to you? Like just part of who you are, because, you know, we can't all be the same. How do you deal with someone who, you know, is like, okay, they clearly need to get some professional help, but they don't see it. I smile, Angela, because, you know, that's the number one question that I get. And the short answer, unfortunately, is that you can't. And
Starting point is 01:14:04 I'll give you the reverse scenario. Imagine, unfortunately, is that you can't. And I'll give you the reverse scenario. Imagine that there's something that you're doing and somebody's saying to you, like, you need to get help for that. You need to stop that. Like, are you trying to hear them? Oftentimes, no. And you feel like, well, they don't know me. They don't know my life. Like, we come up with reasons. And so I think the bridge in there is to say to that person, I'm concerned about fill in the blank and then say, you know, I am here for you to support you. If it's something that you want to talk about, you know, maybe it's something that you want to get some help with. I'm here for you so that they
Starting point is 01:14:35 don't feel put upon and that they really do get that you, you're coming to them from a loving and caring place rather than being judgmental, which we can do oftentimes, you know, but, and we're not judging, but people hear it as judgment. And what you want them to hear is that you care and you're concerned and you want to support them wherever they are. Dr. Walker, what if it's something that is like serious though? Like you feel like they need medic, I mean, and I hate to even say someone, quote, needs medication, but like a real serious thing where you feel like, you know, their ups are two downs and they're coming up with scenarios in their head. It could even be as serious. We're not I'm not a doctor, but it could be schizophrenia. It could be bipolar disorder. And that person really needs help.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And you're scared that they might harm themselves. Like in this country, what can you do for somebody that if they're not trying to seek that help and they don't see it but you know it's a real medical like concern well you said something that was important in there and that is that person is a harm or danger to themselves or maybe they're a danger to someone else and that's a different level of intervention that is calling for, and especially when they're in a place of crisis, like you feel like they're in crisis or at any moment they could be in crisis and they might not be here tomorrow if you don't intervene. At that point, you actually have to call emergency services. And I posit that, I got to tell you, because I know that emergency folks don't always know how to deal with mental health issues and crises, especially in our community. But at the same time, that's about the only thing that you can do because you can't intervene. Like you don't have the physical willpower or you don't have what it takes to be able to maybe restrain them. But if you have concerns about them being in crisis, then you
Starting point is 01:16:18 have to call 911, let them know the circumstances, make sure you're there, make sure someone else is present to protect that individual. But short of that, short of them being in crisis, you have to be diligent. Go check on them every day. Tell them what your concerns are. Tell them that you think that if they keep doing X, Y, and Z, your fear, you have to share your fears because we have to make ourselves vulnerable, right? When we're trying to help other people sometimes, we have to say, my fear is that you might not be here tomorrow if we don't do something different. And until that person gets to that place where they say, you know what, I hear you, then you're not going to be able to convince them to do anything
Starting point is 01:16:54 differently. And I know it's hard to hear because there's so many people struggling, but they need to know that you care about them first and foremost before they can make any change for themselves. I lost two friends to suicide last year. And even when you, you know, you make those calls to the 911 and say you need a welfare check. Like, you know, I had a 911 operator tell me that they can't do a welfare check because the person hasn't harmed anyone and they haven't harmed themselves. And then, you know, a month or so later, you know, you find out that, you know, your friend completed suicide. So what are you doing in situations like that? I mean, I'm sorry to hear about that, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And because what it says to me is that the person that you spoke to was not well trained, because when you call for help for a welfare check, the person who's on the other end of that call needs to be able to respond and not say, well, they haven't harmed themselves yet. The purpose of a welfare check is to make sure that that person does not harm themselves. And as you know, that's one of the reasons why we have to get the word out even more so that there is better training around suicide prevention. A lot of mental health professionals, I think you know this Charlemagne, aren't well trained around managing suicide risk and suicide vulnerability. So we have a lot of work to do around mental health crisis among mental health professionals and in the public. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:18:22 We're still kicking it with Dr. Rita Walker. Charlemagne? How do we protect the mental health of people who've lost loved ones to suicide, especially if you found the body? Like I hear a lot of those conversations. I've got friends who found the body of their sibling or things like that. That's traumatic. Full stop. And those individuals have to get help. They have to process with someone else. And even if they didn't find the person themselves, you know, the level of guilt that goes on top of the grief, it's overwhelming. And I know, you know, people are strong, you know, we're resilient, but sometimes we don't heal in ways that are most helpful. So if someone breaks their leg, eventually that might
Starting point is 01:19:02 heal on its own, but there's going to be consequences of them not getting, you know, using crutches or maybe not getting a cast. And it's the same for our psychological health and well-being, that sometimes we need someone to help us adjust and reframe things so that we can come out of that traumatizing experience, you know, in the best psychological health that we can, recognizing that those individuals may continue for years to struggle and deal with the trauma, the grief, the guilt. And that's the part that is the most challenging is the guilt that is overlaying on top of the grief. You know, I got friends who lost parents, you know, recently is and I wonder, is grief counseling something everyone should get? And how do you know if you if you absolutely need grief counseling? Because, you know, of course, you're going to be sad if your parent dies. But how do you know if you need to go talk to somebody about it?
Starting point is 01:19:52 You know, as someone who lost my dad at a relatively young age, my dad died on the day before my 29th birthday. I recommend that everyone either go to a support group or get some grief counseling so that we can help navigate our way through the grief. In our society, we kind of rush through grief. And that's why, you know, we rush through it. Like, you know, after the funeral, we think, well, you good, right? You know, I'm all right. But there's so much more to grief than that. In West African countries, folks grieve for a year. Like there is a structured grief process for a full year, because I think that what oftentimes will happen is folks will have this moment like six months later and they're crying and they're like, that came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:20:37 What just happened? And they think something's wrong with them. It's like, no, that's that's grief. Now, there is a thing that is complicated grief, that if someone is still overwhelmed and struggling with grief, say, you know, several years after the loss, then they definitely want to get help if they didn't get any at the time of the loss or shortly thereafter. What do you think some of the mental illnesses are that are often found in the Black community that we rarely discuss? All of them? No. So the most common, or the two most common types of psychological disorders are anxiety-related problems and depression. And interestingly, anxiety is more common than depression. And the thing is, we can't ignore the impact of racism because it has made us more hypervigilant. And hypervigilance is connected to anxiety. The notion that we're
Starting point is 01:21:26 always trying to figure out like, okay, what do I need to do to stay safe? What do I need to do to get this promotion? You know, what do I need to do to not look like I'm stealing something in a store? Like all of that stuff raises our hypervigilance. And so we're always trying to figure out like, okay, what's going on? What are they thinking? What do I need to do? How do I adjust? And that raises our anxiety. But the anxiety that we carry with us can be problematic because it's also related to our health. You know, we have this unchecked hypertension, high blood pressure, and all these kinds of issues. It's related a lot of times to our anxiety. It's not all anxiety, but some of it is. And then just the depression. You know, we like to talk about black boy joy. You know, we need a lot more joy, but we of it is. And then just the depression. You know, we like to talk about Black
Starting point is 01:22:05 boy joy. You know, we need a lot more joy, but we don't get to have, you know, the kind of carefree lives that folks live because we're managing so much and it makes us have a low level of depression that we oftentimes just aren't aware of. I agree with you on all of those. Another one, I think, is schizophrenia. I think paranoid schizophrenia is something that I've lost people because of. And I know that even in that person's family, it's people in their family who had a history of paranoid schizophrenia. That's the one that I have no clue on how to deal with. So schizophrenia is challenging. We think about schizophrenia, it is a disconnection from reality, you know, and people have, you know, they hear things that aren't there, they see things
Starting point is 01:22:50 that aren't there, and they're just disconnected from the world around them. They live in their own world. But some of those symptoms actually show up in bipolar disorder. So people who have untreated and unmanaged bipolar disorder can also look schizophrenic. And unfortunately, black people actually overdiagnosed with schizophrenia when it's bipolar disorder. Wow. So that's why I pause with that because, you know, schizophrenia is one of those things we associate with being crazy. Right. And so that's why we don't get mental health care, because we're like, well, I'm not crazy. I don't have schizophrenia. You know, I don't hear voices. Mental health is so much more than that, as you know. So with that
Starting point is 01:23:27 being said, we do have schizophrenia. It is a legitimate diagnosis. And when the symptoms start to show up, so for Black men, it can be late teens, early 20s. For Black women, the symptoms and signs can start to show up a little bit later, like mid-20s. You know, we have to get help as soon as we can so that the prognosis and the person's ability to manage their schizophrenia is better. Somebody who's in their 40s and 50s, you know, right now trying to manage schizophrenia, it's better than waiting until they're 70, but we still want to treat them as soon as possible because they can learn skills. There really are skills that people can learn to manage that, you know, and being able to
Starting point is 01:24:05 identify stressors because stress can trigger a schizophrenic or disconnection from reality. And we have to be aware of those. How do we show up for the families of the people, our friends of the people diagnosed with mental illness, the people who have to deal with the person who's schizophrenic or bipolar, has anxiety or depression? How do we show up for those people? We need a lot of support. And one of the places I always direct folks to is NAMI, so National Association for Mental Illness, because they have support groups where families learn skills, learn how to manage their own mental health, because someone who's having to, you know, provide support or a family member who's providing support for someone else who's
Starting point is 01:24:49 dealing with mental health challenges, those individuals can struggle too. I think that's why you asked the question. And so, you know, whenever we can give them breaks and say, hey, you know what, do you need to run an errand because they're providing nonstop care? Can I be there for you when you're running an errand? Maybe I can go sit with your family member. You know, maybe I can run the errand for you, like providing practical support. Man, I know you got to go to this. My last question, and I always like to ask this. Do we ever get to a place of true healing and wholeness? I think that we will get there when we start to connect with who we are and our cultural identity,
Starting point is 01:25:27 because once we do that, then we connect with one another, and then we start to build what we need, that as long as we're waiting, you know, to get permission to be who we are, or to get permission to infiltrate some of these systems that have never wanted us to be a part of them, that If we keep waiting for that, we're not going to get there. But when we can start, you know, we'll stop being suspicious of one another, you know, start to trust one another, build community, connect with who we are, then we will be able to prosper and be successful. I don't think it can happen before then. Her name is Dr. Rita Walker. Dr. Rita Walker, give them your Instagrams and Twitters and all that good stuff, please. Absolutely. So Dr. Rita Walker, let me spell
Starting point is 01:26:09 Rita. It's R-H-E-E-D as in diamond A. So Dr. Rita Walker, I'm on Instagram. I'm on YouTube. I try to post videos to help folks, you know, manage stress and to understand racism and assess psychological fortitude so that we can, in fact, get to a place where we're living our best lives. That's right. And the book is called Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. You know, I bought a bunch of these and I just give them out to, you know, young brothers and young sisters, you know, just just because I think this is the most culturally competent book about black mental health that I personally ever read. So thank you, Dr. Rita Walker, for not only existing, but creating this masterpiece. And I have to thank you, Dr. Rita Walker, for not only existing, but creating this masterpiece.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And I have to thank you, Charlemagne, because I, you know, I get messages from folks even now who say they picked up the book because you talked about it and it has changed their lives and they tell their whole families about it. And it just, it really warms my heart
Starting point is 01:26:59 how well the book has done. And it's in no small part due to you letting folks to know about the book even months before it came out so thank you so much thank you all for letting me be here thank you anytime it's Dr. Rita Walker it's The Breakfast Club
Starting point is 01:27:10 The Breakfast Club listen up it's just in the rumor report with Angela Yee it's the rumor report The Breakfast Club well Soulja Boy and Bow Wow are going to be facing off in an upcoming versus battle.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Now, Soulja Boy tweeted out Soulja Boy versus Bow Wow hashtag versus is official. And Swizz did share Soulja's tweet on his IG story. So I guess it's not official official,, but looks like they did have that conversation. Did they announce it? I was confused. Do they want that to happen or did they already announce it today? Play the audio to answer this question.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah, please. It's going to be bigger than life, bro. I'm happy to celebrate with you. They was throwing O in there. I saw a lot of Omarion. I'm like, bro, that's my bro too. My O-R-B singer. I actually like to see O go against Mario, me personally. Me and you make so much sense, brother. We've toured.
Starting point is 01:28:11 We've been on tour together. Me and you got a whole mixtape together. We on tour right now, bro. We on tour right now, my. And on top of that,, you got a hot new record out. The day before we do Versus, my movie come out. Let me tell you something. That's an amazing Versus.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I don't care what y'all think about Soulja Boy and Bow Wow. You can't front on them dudes. They are pioneers, superstars. I don't even know who I think will win. I lean Soulja Boy, but Bow Wow got some joints. It's going to be fun to watch. Yes, I'm sure it'll be very entertaining and J. Cole got his sixth number one Billboard 200 album with the off season 282,000 roughly in the opening week great album it's the highest first week sales
Starting point is 01:28:57 for a hip-hop album in 2021 so far and the most streamed hip-hop release of 2021 with 325 million on-demand streams. Now, J. Cole did go on Twitter and said, sending a thank you from Rwanda, number one album. I appreciate the love. I heard the noise from out here. The off-season means keep pushing yourself. I will do the same.
Starting point is 01:29:16 J. Cole has also joined Timbaland's Beat Club, which is a new online marketplace for beats, and Timbaland posted this video with J. Cole discussing getting a track from Timbaland posted this video with J Cole discussing the Getting a track from Timbaland and how difficult it was and twitch and all of that Sometimes I hit somebody for a beat and then around and not do nothing So I'm like I can't do that at Timbaland I mean, let me at least like so I looped up the YouTube little rip made a whole song on it I spent the next two days like writing and recording the song and like right when I was like 90% through right now
Starting point is 01:29:44 I'm like, I should probably call him now get the real files and I hit him I'm like bro can you send me this beat you played on twitch he was like uh yeah I sent it to you which one and I played in the beat he was like I didn't save that one I was like what the f**k you know what I mean like so he had to remake it wow oh Timbo's a genius but I'm sure that was nothing to him. Once he heard it, he could play it back. I know that's dope though. And that song was Amari for, uh, if you guys didn't know already.
Starting point is 01:30:11 All right. And Kodak black is not excited about his first week numbers. And apparently he sold 22,000 first week. And he went on social media to respond to that. He said me dropping the same day as Nikki and J Cole is not an excuse for me because I'm as big an artist as them. I used to sell 100,000 first week, etc. But along the way, the game turned gay. Even though I get to singing, I signed up for gangster rap, not this peekaboo ass-ish.
Starting point is 01:30:41 We're good-hearted, real individuals, of course, to hide their support for you in public. Oh, drop one of Clues bars for Kodak, Black Man. Yak is yak, man. I was not expecting that. I didn't know what turn he was about to say. I thought he was just holding himself accountable, but no. Jesus Christ. But he said he still
Starting point is 01:30:59 feels great. He's still a multi-millionaire with lots of records sold, and that's without support from Spotify and major platforms. He said LOL, not even Shade Room. All right. Uncle Luke is calling out the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because he still has not been inducted. He went on social media. He went on Instagram and said,
Starting point is 01:31:17 another year of not getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He deserves it. 100%. I think so. Luke is the reason that we can speak the way that we speak. Like the whole parental advisory stickers on albums,
Starting point is 01:31:31 you know, are just fighting back against censorship. That was Luke. Luke was fighting back against cancel outrage culture before it was a thing. So yes,
Starting point is 01:31:39 he deserves to be in that. We still be playing his music today. Okay. I just hate the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I wish it was just the Music Hall of Fame. Like I hate the fact that it has a genre of Hall of Fame. I hate the fact that it has a genre of music on it.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I love the fact that we got to hopefully open soon a hip-hop museum out in the Bronx. They broke ground, but I'm sure it's going to take a little while. I'm excited for that because I want to see a lot of our artists and some of their accomplishments in there. Alright, and Lil Baby and Lil Dirk have appeared to announce the voice
Starting point is 01:32:06 of heroes release date their long-awaited collab album june 4th is the date so that should be exciting and little baby posted album finish june 4th voice of heroes y'all excited for that one right 100 question two why does soldier boy and and Bow Wow why are they so young and they not our generation but they feel like they our generation came out so long ago you gotta think
Starting point is 01:32:31 they were young when they came out we were young and their records were still transcended like yeah yeah yeah I mean we weren't
Starting point is 01:32:38 Soulja Boy was 16 when he yeah we weren't young we were definitely a lot younger 20 years ago there was no gray hairs. And we had a real beard.
Starting point is 01:32:47 You know what I mean? You had hair. You had your eyebrows done. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down, sir. What? I did not have my eyebrows done. You did have your eyebrows done.
Starting point is 01:32:55 I had my eyebrows done in the 90s. You just got your hair cut today, too, because I can see all the lights in the studio shining off your head. Who? You. It's like reflecting. Oh, no, that's just a fresh ball. I got this last week, shining off your head. Who? You. It's like reflecting. Oh, no, that's just a fresh ball. I got this last week, though. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I appreciate it. I can see every light. People's reflections and everything. I'll be going. All right. And speaking of which, Charlamagne, for you, Alex Rodriguez, A-Rod, has launched his own makeup for men. So he said he wanted to create a product
Starting point is 01:33:25 that solved an issue I face every day. No, I don't wear makeup. Yes, you do. And you get your eyebrows done. Are you a YouTuber? Well, you may want to get the blur.
Starting point is 01:33:35 You may want to get the blur stick. It's a concealer specifically designed for men that can be used for skin imperfections. That is not true. I wear makeup.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I wear a little bit of foundation when I'm on TV. So you wear makeup. Don. That is not true. I wear makeup. I wear a little bit of foundation when I'm on TV. See, you wear makeup. Don't say a little bit. You wear makeup. No, and if I did wear it, I would wear Fenty. I would not wear
Starting point is 01:33:52 Alex Rodriguez's Blur brand. I just like Fenty. They got better shades. They just do. I like it. Their foundation is just better. Wear makeup. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I don't wear makeup. How do you know it's better if you never tried it? He wears makeup. Look, y'all see any makeup on here? all good. Now, don't wear makeup. How do you know it's better if you never tried it? He wears makeup. Look, y'all see any makeup on here? That's just flawless Dr. Sandy dermatology. Okay? All right?
Starting point is 01:34:11 You wear makeup. No, I don't. I saw some. All right, well, that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Now, shout out to Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next.
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Starting point is 01:34:39 Visit UnileverDoesGood.com to support communities impacted by the pandemic. E-J-N-V, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Hopefully you guys had a great weekend. Back to the work week. I'm back. I'm back in the city. Continue to play these car shows.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I got my second vaccination shot. I'm like exhausted. No, how was that? It just made me tired. It just made me tired. But I feel okay. Like I don't feel sick or nothing. I'm just really tired.
Starting point is 01:35:07 When did you get it? What day you got it? I just got it yesterday. Oh, okay. A lot of people say after about 48 hours, they say it keeps you down for like 48, 72 hours, the second shot? No, a day usually.
Starting point is 01:35:20 I mean, it depends. It depends how your body reacts to it. Mine was the day after in the evening. So I guess you can see later on tonight how you feel. But it was just like you said, I had a temperature and then I had the chills. But we'll see. Hopefully everything is good. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I want to salute everybody who's been grabbing Tamika Mallory's State of Emergency. How to win in the country we built, man. Like drop on the clues bar for Tamika Mallory. Like I love to see people responding to her the way that they do. So it's available everywhere you buy books now. Audio version, hardcover, e-book, whatever you want. You can get it wherever you buy books. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:56 When we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? I do, man. I said this quote earlier.
Starting point is 01:36:13 I was paraphrasing during Don Quixote Day, but I want to repeat it again just because I think it's that powerful. A good person apologizes for the mistakes of the past, but a great person corrects them. Breakfast club, bitches! You all finished or you all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine.
Starting point is 01:36:35 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory oh my god what is that bull is listen to escape from zakistan that's escape from z aq is stan on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,
Starting point is 01:37:06 where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best
Starting point is 01:37:53 and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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