The Breakfast Club - Tami Roman & Jill Ramsay Talk "Caught In The Act", "Basketball Wives", Cheating & More

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

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We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. Whoop. No, we're not. No, it's not me. Don't get started. You started early. Yes, it is.

It's out today. You got to add that to the bio. You started early. Tammy Roman is here. Also, Jill Ramsey. Welcome, guys. What's up? Hey, hey. What's the word? Oh, guys. What's up? Hey, hey.

What's the word? Great, great, great. It is cold outside. I know. It got cold overnight. Overnight? It's like I live in Houston, so I'm like, ooh, I ain't prepared. Oh, no, you're not used to the Jersey, New York weather no more.

I live here, but I don't come outside. But Tammy and Jill, let's talk about it first before we get started, you guys' relationships with each other, because you have a production company together? Yes. Okay. Yes, we have a production company together, Roman Ramsey. We've been knowing each other over 10 years. That's like a law firm.

It does say. It kind of is. Let me put the productions on it. Roman Ramsey Productions. There you go. And so I met her because she used to work for Wendy Williams Productions. And every time I would come on the show, she was always the person that kind of like facilitated it. And so we became friends.

Absolutely. And like when we started this venture, it was like, you know, you're my sister. Yeah. And plus she loaned me money when I was down and out one time. Oh, you did? No, that's dope though. How much did she let you? Oh my God. How much did she lend you? Oh, my God.

How much did she lend you? She did. It was like $15,000. Really? Yeah. And we weren't even really that tight then. And I just was like telling her my situation. And she was like, oh, I got you.

I mean, I knew I could find her on TV. No, but I mean, listen, we were super cool. She has a great spirit. Like, I like working with people with good energy, which, as I mean, listen, we were super cool. She has a great spirit. Like I like working with people with good energy, which, as you know, because I used to rock with you and Charlamagne, you know, like I rock with people who have good energy. So that's what it was with Tammy. So when I left the show and I was like figuring out what I was going to do next, then, you know, it was just a natural link. We already had ideas for shows and other television ideas. We have more stuff coming

than what's out there. Tammy will cook it. I've been seeing Tammy in everything. She's booked in busy. She's on five different shows. But, you know, Tammy, I would never have thought you even had a period of being down and out. Really? I mean, just because... You didn't see season two

of Basketball, why? You don't know what's real and what's not real. You don't know what's a storyline and what's not a storyline. She's making money. True, true, true. Getting booked. It was a down period for like 18 months. I say it like it was like five, six years. But it was like 18 months.

But when you're used to having that down time, it's like, oh my God, what am I going to do? I got two kids, all of that. So yeah, I definitely had my moment. And I had good people in my life that kind of helped me out of that. How'd you get to that point? Because I was doing a show that was executive produced by Queen Latifah and Shaquem.

And it was a VH1 BET hybrid co-production show called Wifey. And they picked up the show. I picked up, moved my whole family to Jersey. And then they couldn't figure out their deal and just canceled the show. Wow. But I was stuck here, like, you know, in Jersey. And so my kids were already enrolled in school and everything.

And I literally, like, used all my savings to, like, move cross-country, move, you know, get everything set up here, and then they pulled the show. How did you get out of that? I started working at Morgan Stanley. And I was on the train one day and this lady was like, oh my my God, I just watched you.

I had a show called Moonlight that had just gotten canceled. I just watched you on TV last night. What are you doing on the train? And I was like, I'm going to work like you. You know, I'm trying to pay these bills. And then I thought about it and was like, yeah, why am I on a train? Like, what is going on, Tammy? Like, you're just like, you know,

just settling for this moment in your life. And so I went home that weekend and saw Basketball Wives the first season. And I was like, damn, I was a basketball wife. I'm going to call them and see if I can get up on there. And so I called VH1. And I got on Basketball Wives. I did not know all that backstory before Basketball Wives.

That's how it happened. Yep. That's how it happened. You know. Most people would have felt like they're too good to get a regular job after being in the life and everything. You was like, nah, I gotta take it. I've been working since I was 13 years old. I lied to get a job at Kentucky Fried Chicken when I was 13 years old. Because, you know, I'm just, I

come from that. My mom worked three jobs. I never saw anybody sit around in my family and raised by all women. It was like like I can't be the one that's like told the lie you told KFC that you was older yeah and were you a rapper as a kid because today I'm just telling you guys you know BET did a cypher you want to produce an album bro you done bought this up four times Charlamagne please call him out on this shit. I think I need to decide what I'm doing right now. And they did a different type of cypher with no influencers.

And they had like Pretty V and they had La La Milan. They had so many different people. Dapper Dan. I knew it was coming. But Tammy Roman is rapping, rapping, dropping it low like Lil Tim. She got into it. Were you a rapper? Because that was natural.

No, I was not a rapper. You never rapped before. Listen, I was supposed to be a model, a supermodel like Linda Evangelista. And that did not happen. And so then I decided I was going to be in a singing group, but I can't really sing that well. So I decided I would be the rapper of the group, but I can't really sing that well. Okay. So I decided I would be the rapper of the group but I can't really rap that well. But somehow I managed to get the group signed

and then we fell apart because I just wasn't good at either one of them. She didn't do it at all. You didn't do everything. But I tried. I shot the shot at it, you know. But yeah, so they got the cypher as you done told the world.

And so a lot of us came out that aren't rappers that are doing, you know, like our best six teams we can put together, you know. And you guys had a coach, right? Lil' Kim, because they split us up into teams. So Lil' Kim was my team's coach. And then we had Remy Ma on the other side coaching the other set of people. But my daughter Jazz wrote my rap, and I feel like, you know, it was good. Yeah, I had a ghostwriter. Several people do

in the industry. You know, that's nothing new. You got Jazz on the TV show, too, right? Jazz is doing the theme song for the show. Lyric is on the show. It's a family affair, baby. So let's talk about the show. House of Vicious. I'm going to leave that up to Jill since she's the creator.

Come on, tell us about House of Vicious, ma. So House of Vicious is like a culmination of, like I've been working in entertainment for 25 years. So it's a culmination of all of my experiences and different people that I met. And I had a pretty interesting life myself. So some of it is, know my elements but there is not a character because people keep asking is it based on this or is it based on that there's not one character in there that's one person it is a culmination of a bunch of different people or it might be a scenario that I saw and it didn't turn out the way I wanted it so I made it that

in the show. I made it what I wanted it. You know? Like TV is just fun. You could create whatever you want. And I think that House of Vicious I mean I think you guys know it's about a fashion house and all the crazy things that happen

there with their glam squad and everything else. But it talks about we delve into some real-life issues. Yeah, it's crazy for the television aspect when we deal with some real-life issues. Like, anybody can relate to something in there. There's the infidelity. There's the drug use. You know, all of that.

And Tammy killed it. Like, when I made Chantel I knew that she was gonna be that person like I we didn't even consider anybody else the fashion does that head of the fashion house okay and you've been doing a lot with cheating lately and infidelity I have something listen that's you know it's in my background um but yeah we got got unfaithful, of course, you know. Is that a real show, unfaithful? Yes, it is. Because those stories, have you seen the stories yet?

Oh, man, listen. Some of those stories are like, there's no way. Possible way. This got to be fake. No, it's not fake. You know, the people really, because let me tell you something about VH1. Like, on some for real stuff, they never want people to actually do what you just did.

Like, that's fake. Like, I saw so-and-so and she really dates this one because then that, you know, lowers the integrity of the show. So they are sticklers about these people

being in these relationships, having these moments, you know what I mean? So that when they come to us for help, you know, we really are able to navigate them, help navigate them. What do they take out, though? Because, I mean? So that when they come to us for help, you know, we really are able to navigate them, help navigate them. What do they take out, though? Because, I mean, I've seen one episode where a girl was dating the guy's friend, and then the guy's friend just started dating the girl.

And then they met in a restaurant, and then they argued, and then they had dinner, and then they both left together. I'm like, this is weird. This is wild. There was no fighting, no furniture moving, no slapping, no punching, no kicking, nothing. That's called maturity. No more abusive relationships. You know, it was toxic enough. But, you know, we're not trying

to be, like, love, you know, oh my God, they're gonna kill me. There you go. I'm gonna make this comparison at the expense of losing some friendships, but we're not loving hip-hop You know like we're not trying to throw chairs and fight and all that stuff We really try to steer away from that however

We can't help how somebody reacts you know what I mean, and we just try to control that moment if it goes like that But envy I don't know why you asking aren't you aren't you coming on as a co-host aren't you? You said come on Embiid, I don't know why you asking. Aren't you coming on as a co-host? Aren't you? You going on a show called Unfaithful? I thought you said come on on. I was like, no. I was like, no. This is a friendly interview with me. Why?

You're just dumb. Why? Why would you go on a show called Unfaithful? It's about helping other brothers. Oh, no. Because he's coming to my phone. He's speaking from his experience of having been a cheater and then trying to help people. You just keep going down that road for no reason.

You just keep bringing up that story for no damn reason. It's not his story, though. It's not my story. It's not his story, though. He's going to help me help people. That's right. Okay. I'll just be over here saying black men don't cheat.

That's enough for me. That's enough for me. Tammy, what's your craziest unfaithful story from your past? Because you said it's things you've dealt with in the past, too. So if you could say I had a crazy situation, what would you say is in the top craziest? Okay, one of the top ones was with my ex-husband. And I had a feeling that there was a chick, right, that there was somebody that he was seeing. And there was this one girl that just would not go away.

And so the team was on the road, and I kept calling his hotel room, and he wouldn't answer. So I'm like, he don't sleep this hard. Like, you not in that room. Depends how long the game was. Could have been double overtime. Nah, nah, nah. Black men don't sleep.

I know you think, right? I'm just saying. It could be other reasons. Was this in Boston? I'm sorry, go ahead. So, as I was saying, I remembered the girl's name and called the hotel back

and asked for her name. No! And they put me through. Oh, boy. And she answered. No! And I put me through. Oh boy. And she answered. No! And I said, let me talk to Kenny. And she said, hold on. Wow. No shame.

No shame. No shame. And he got on the phone. He was like, hello. Because he was asleep. And I said, Kenny, you are asleep. Kenny, what the? That's not what I said. I said he wasn't in his room. I said he wasn't in his room. I said he wasn't in his room. And he heard my voice and hung up.

Ooh. I know he was so mad at that woman. Why would you pass it your way? Did you stay? They ended up having two kids together, actually. Damn. Close your mouth. Some black men do cheat, Charlamagne.

Did you stay after that that or was it over? Was that the final straw? I did stay. I did stay. And I think that's why, you know, coming from that perspective and being a- Charlamagne, sweat. Look at me sweat. I'm telling you, you hear these stories, you get anxiety in the head like, Lord have mercy. I did stay.

Lord have mercy. But that's why I think I'm the perfect person for caught in the act, because I understand a person's thought process of trying to rationalize, navigate, understand, you know, comprehend why a person is doing this. But having so much love for them that you try to make it work, even though you see the signs in front of you. And it took me some time to get to the point of where it was like, this is not good and I've got to love myself more. And so that's what I'm encouraging people to do on Codney Act. And it's real. And it's absolutely positively real.

I shot an episode with Tammy. Yes. And they go through everything. And I had to try to help the brother out and, you know, smarten him up. So it's like cheetahs? Yeah. Yes. 2.0, though.

But nobody getting stabbed on a boat. Yeah, but you're showing him what he's doing wrong and explaining it to him and breaking him down in a way that he would understand. He jumped over. Tell me, give me some tips. How did you not get caught all those years? Stop it. I got caught.

But I break it down and I explain what happened to the point one time where they argue it and Tammy's looking at me and I'm like, Tammy, help. He's like, Tammy, get up. Help me. I'm like, no, you didn't. Go ahead. Tell them your story. But it's a great show today. You ever seen Cheaters when Peter Gunz was hosting

and the dude said, man, you be cheating too? But the guy did say that to him. He was like, how you gonna help me when you have cheated? See? That's for sure. That's exactly why you have to be on it. Learn from my mistakes. And he was like, but this is what I learned in that moment.

And so the guy, you know, he was able to make the guy understand. But it's really good. We're excited about having Envy join us. How many shows have y'all pitched that got turned down before y'all got, you know, these shows rolling on air? Oh, we've been a company for about three and a half, four years. Since about 2018. Oh, wow, wow, wow. And we heard a lot of no's.

For these projects in particular? Yes. Okay. Yes, we heard a lot of no's. And then, you know, but like with anybody or any industry, if it's what you want to do and you're passionate about it, you don't give up on it. And particularly with entertainment,

it's like you just got to wait for the tide to change. Because what they don't like today, everybody's gotta have it tomorrow. You know what I mean? And so we just held out. And it used to be called something else in the beginning when the wig falls off. When the wig falls off. And then she changed

the name. Then she changed the name. Changed the name. But it's hard because I don't think people understand. There's only been so many hours on television, period. So there's only so much real estate. And then for black women to get a show on television, we weren't going to stop. We were not going to take no for an answer. And we're coming with it.

Like, you're going to see a show come after that. We're going to have something coming with it. Like, you're gonna see a show come after that. We're gonna have something coming at Netflix. Like, we're not playing. We're not letting the gas up at all. And even with this one, it was all women. You know, Kim Fields

directed all eight episodes. Wow. That's dope. And we had all females on the crew. Female grips. Like, you know, like when you talk about, like, a demographic that's not represented much in Hollywood for us,

we had 85% black females on House of Vicious. And so we were excited about being able to do that. That's part of our thing from Roman Ramsey. Also, we just wanted to make sure we put new people on. So you weren't seeing like all the music from House of Vicious is on artists. Some of my son's friends, some all sorts of stuff. But like, it's really, it's really crazy.

DJ Prince and those guys, and they gave us a lot of music just on the strength. Like it was, you know, like really using our relationships and networking. All the cast members are my real friends that I've worked with and it's like, hey, can you just jump on this project with me? So it was really a labor of love that BET ended up loving

and, you know, here we are, House of Vicious. Now, did your daughter have to audition? Did Lyric have to audition for the role? Absolutely.

When Hedges Elbow was here, he was talking about his daughter auditioning but not getting the role. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I heard about that. Well, my daughter was actually good.

No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. You're just losing all types of friends today. He said she was good. I don't know what his situation was, Idris. You know, I don't mean no harm. But my daughter was good. And I feel like, you know, why not give her the role?

Why not? You know, she's in law school. She's young. You know, she's got her own set of bills trying to establish her life. Why not give her an opportunity as long as she can do the job? Now, has she been whack? Then it's like, no, we got to get somebody else to play this character. But I feel like the black culture just always wants to speak about nepotism.

Oh, they only got this because this is their father. So what? Yes, like so what? So what? Why can't we help each other? My parents got me a job doing something. My son is in it too. Yeah.

But he was like, but he said the opposite. He was like, you know, the way I play football, I didn't want to take an opportunity from somebody who might have got it. And we were like, okay, put on the uniform and go. Because that's what they do. That's what we're going to do. They play football against you guys. Absolutely.

I was going to ask, when do you have the time? You said you live in Houston, you shoot in Atlanta, you shoot in L.A., you shoot in New York. When do you have the time to do everything? I don't sleep. No? I don to do everything? I don't sleep. No. I don't. I really just don't sleep.

I mean, but it's, y'all know how that is because y'all doing the exact same thing. It's like we just fit it in somehow. I don't know. But, you know, when you want to do it, it's not work, right? Like you love doing what you're doing. So I just fit it in. But I don't sleep. I don't want to sleep.

I'm 52 years old. I'm going to be sleeping a long ass time in a minute so not no minute well not a minute lord you know what i mean do you know what i meant yeah yeah 90 90 at least let me get to 90. Now, is it true you wanted to be on Real Housewives? I did audition for Real Housewives of Atlanta. And it was after Basketball Wives had gotten canceled. And so I tried to get up on there, and they told me no. Just straight up no? Yeah.

What was the reasoning? They said I was too big of a personality on an opposing network. Oh, okay. So they thought people would affiliate you too much. Yes, with the other brand. Yeah, that was very similar, right? So I got it. Now, how's married life for you with Reggie still? Because you are super busy.

Are y'all making time for each other? We're always together. Okay. We're always together. We're always together. The way his job is, he does e-commerce, so he can work from anywhere. That's perfect. Yeah, it's absolutely

perfect. So we're always together. We're never, well, today we're separated. And it's funny because I called and he was like, yeah, I'm in the gym. And I heard music, like a TV, something in the background. She was laughing because she knows. And I was like, what gym got the TV all loud like that with the music in the back?

I said, I don't go to the gym, so I don't know. I tried to tell her. They do, they do. I didn't know this. I tried to tell her. I didn't know this information. I'm like, I'm trying to tell her. Especially in the morning with the news beyond sports.

Yes. She like all this acting and hosting shows in my head. So I was like, well, let me FaceTime child and make sure that he's in the game. So you FaceTimed him?

I FaceTimed him. I sure did. You think you'd be in your head because of like the hosting and the show and all of that. That's exactly what's going on. And you'd be like, now hold up,

I don't want to get caught. My husband has never given me any reason. Like I said, we're always together. And plus, I just think it's a part of his character. To me, I feel like anybody that cheats, it's a character flaw. I agree with that.

That you then have to mature and grow out of, right? So he's never given me any of that. And he comes from a two-parent household, really understands and respects women. Is he in therapy? Any type of therapy? No, he's not in therapy. Oh, okay. No, no, I mean, I'm saying, because I go to therapy once a week,

so it's like a lot of times I've realized that cheating comes from, you know, those unhealed trauma that you have. Trauma, trauma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He's just a really, for lack of a better word, he's a really good guy that just really respects and understands women. So he's never given me any reason.

But I think this fucking show. So tell us a little bit of backstory on the show and on Chantel and her husband. Yeah, so Chantel is like a fashion designer, always had that dream. And her and Kane Kane who's played by Red Rick Williams decided to start this company together and within the company as they get builder bigger and more famous of course you get more

visibility so people are constantly throwing themselves at you and then he weakens to that pressure the first time around allegedly because I don't want to give away too much that's happening in season two but what everybody's watching now he ends up with a mistress and you know reliving that it's like those triggers like we you know you know even though you may have healed from them when they're back in your face again, it's like, I remember how I felt when that happened. It takes you right back to that place. Chris Rock said a man is only as faithful as his options.

Do you believe that? That a man is only as faithful as his options. Well, if he considers the one that he's with his priority and not his option, then he's not looking at the other option. Do you believe that? Amen. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? his priority and not his option then he's not looking at the other option mm-hmm amen what what what I used to but no I feel like everyone has options too right yeah great ones but everybody does have options but I think you have to get to a point when you specifically when you're talking about relationships where two people are trying to become one, that you have to be respectful and mindful of that dynamic, that interpersonal dynamic and how you would want that person to treat you. Right. And I think men sometimes are such narcissists, even the covert narcissist, even because they like to make it seem like they're not a narcissist and everything they're doing is for the benefit of you and the love of you.

And when something goes awry, it's you did it and not me. That's right. And so I think that just having... Or what you wasn't doing. Or what you weren't doing. Yeah, that's the other thing they'll blame you on. Yeah, yeah. And you just got to get to a point of just respecting your person enough

that you don't want to see them hurt. That's real. That's real. How are you able to do all these different BET shows? There's no, like, non-competes? Because you're on Miss Pat, The Family Business, this one, House of Vicious. Unfaithful Viacom. That's Viacom.

That's Viacom. Okay. How are you able to do all that? Well, Miss Pat came after the family business, which I was already a series regular on, which came after, what's the other one I'm on? House of Vicious? No. House of Vicious. House of Vicious. So it was family business I had first, then Miss Pat made me a series regular, and then House of Vicious made me a series regular, but House of Vicious wasn't always on BET.

It was since licensed and acquired by BET, so they couldn't battle that. And then Viacom, you know, Unfaithful's under Viacom, which is unscripted, which doesn't compete with scripted. And then Truth Be Told is on Apple, but I'm recurring on that show. How crazy was it when before an episode of Unfaithful came out, they already knew that they were going to do season two? I was so shocked. I was so surprised because I was like, oh, my God, my agent didn't even tell me.

And, you know, then I saw it on the trays and I was like, oh, they took an old quote from like something I had said when the show was first getting picked up. And I'm like, this is like really amazing. And so to get 20 episodes before the first six even air, and then now they've since added six more onto that. So we've got a 26-episode season. I mean, they really believe in it, you know. And I think Chris, who, of course, is over all of Viacom,

is a very big Cheaters fan. Chris McCarthy. Yes. So this is his, you know, version, just done better. Did you ever envision all of this for yourself?

Thinking about where you started off, like the real world way, way, way back in the day. Were you like one day, because you were acting also, did you envision like,

you know, all of this happening? Do you feel like you brought it into? I never thought that I'd have five shows all at one time, right? So that's really a testimony of like when God shows up, he shows out.

As long as you've done the necessary work to prepare for the blessings that he's trying to bestow upon you. And I feel like all the things before this moment, I was still learning. Learning lessons, but not, you know, honoring what I was learning, which is why I wasn't getting anywhere. It was like I was still learning learning lessons but not you know honoring what I was learning which is why I wasn't getting anywhere it was like I was stagnant it's like I'm I think I'm learning it but I'm not applying it right and so once I started really applying what I was learning whether it be my friendships my relationship you know with my husband my relationship with my daughter just starting to risk be respectful and have an attitude of gratitude

and really just trying to elevate my mind, that's when I feel like everything just started falling into place and things started changing and the wheels started turning. I mean, and, you know, I didn't think it would be like this, but I'm thankful that it is like this. Now, is it true you gave your husband, Reggie, an opportunity to take a break for a year or two? That is untrue.

Oh, okay. What I said was... Loving baby with somebody. That's not what I said. Okay, that's what people.com said. Yeah, yeah. I was on The Real, and they give you two minutes. Y'all have been on this show.

They throw a question at you. You're trying to answer it you two minutes. Y'all have been on this show to throw a question at you. You're trying to answer it in two minutes. And so what I was saying was I have eggs that have been frozen. We had been trying to find a surrogate. And every time we started the process, I could never finish because I'm now over here doing this show,

over here doing the six months on Ms. Pat, you know, that type of energy. So what I was saying was, because, you know, you've got to really investigate that stuff. You've got to make sure, you know, you're looking through these books of these women trying to carry. I don't know if you've ever actually. No, you'll probably never have gone through this process. You know, it's all on the website. You've got to go through hundreds and thousands of profiles of women who would like to carry your baby. Right. So then outside of that, it's like,

I don't know if y'all did enough of a background check. So now I got to do my own background check, you know, all of these things. And we kept falling out of time to do it. So I was saying, you take the time away from me because here again, we're together every day. So you go and focus on that and find this chick. Then once you narrow it down, bring it back to me. All I heard was you go find this chick. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Out of context, baby. Okay. So that's what I was saying. No, I don't want him to stick his penis nowhere else. That's a scary thing because it really is letting somebody dictate. You can't control what someone else does. And for your egg to be in this person, you're like, how do I pick?

Exactly. And so I really wanted to be a part of the process, but I couldn't. So I'm like, you go find a person and then bring me your top three and then we'll go from there, you know, type energy. But now we've kind of decided we're just both too busy you know so and I'm never have been that type of mother I'm very hands-on with my I'm still in the other projects do you guys have in the works are you accepting pitches from other people yeah we are we are accepting pitches I'm scared to say

out loud some of the stuff that you have because you know you turn around and then somebody just, boom, it's on air. So I can't say. Okay, but you do have somebody saying we stole their project. But we have,

exactly, exactly. But we have, you know, more reality coming. Okay. We have something, I'll say Black Panther-ish that's big. So I'll say that. Okay. I don't want to narrow it down because it'll go right to it. Panther-ish. That's big.

So I'll say that. I don't want to narrow it down because it'll go right to it. Well, where can they see House of Vicious? It is on BET Wednesdays at 9. Soon to move to BET Plus. And then we're waiting on our Season 2 pickup. BET Plus is killing it. I just want to say. Charlamagne makes a guest appearance

for our finale. Yes. Woo, woo, woo. That is so big to me. Like, Jill's like, I'm going to ask Charlamagne. What is his character? Why you got to play it like that?

You know what? Envy's upset because, you know, Envy's nickname was Vicious and he should have been on there. Oh. I had no idea. I had no idea. We didn't know.

Season two. Season two. Season two. Joe and Angelina, thank you for joining us. You never know where we're going to go with Angelina, but thank you guys so much.

And we look forward to Wednesdays at 9 p.m. on BET House of Vicious. And thank you guys. Thank you. Here you go. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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