The Breakfast Club - Targeting the Wrong Anger ( Sarah Jakes Sermon and Cardi B Tour Success)
Episode Date: April 20, 2026This episode Loren LoRosa opens up about family, faith, and the emotional weight behind her mom’s ongoing health journey. After a powerful weekend and a life-changing message from Pastor Sarah J...akes Roberts, Loren dives into a conversation about anger—how we misplace it, how it holds us back, and how it can actually fuel growth when used the right way. She connects that message to major moments in pop culture, breaking down Cardi B’s record-breaking tour and the larger conversation around women in rap, success, and industry double standards. This episode is personal, reflective, and motivating—a reminder that what you do with your emotions can shape everything.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You know, before we get into our episodes, we always check in behind the scenes of the grind.
So this past weekend, I went home, hung out with some family.
Y'all know, like, hanging out with family, I feel like it's like my, that's my like centerpiece.
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just a good feeling being with the people that love you.
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Like it just does very much so of fulfilling.
So we did that over the weekend.
So feeling refreshed, if you can't hear it in my voice.
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growth in her brain area for one of the masses that she had been dealing with. But it was nothing
that they said was alarming at the time. It wasn't any large growth. But they just, they're very,
doctor, her oncologist, who was like the quarterback of a cancer patient's medical team,
is always super honest with me, very detailed. Because of a lot of the issues we went through
in the beginning of everything, where they overlooked the fact that she even had cancer,
and it was just a lot that we had to fight through her first year. And I documented that all
on my YouTube, most of it anyway, until it became a little traumatizing, as you guys can imagine.
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As we talk about God having his hand on things, let me tell y'all something.
So last Friday night, I went home to Delaware.
And my first stop was a very special evening with my church.
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But that church is led by Pastor Jerome Lewis and First Lady Lisa Lewis.
But the Friday evening service I went to, and I, like, y'all know, I told y'all, me and God, like, we re-rekindled our relationship.
You know, I took a lot of time just really getting my spiritual life together because I don't know.
I just felt like there was a lot that I was going to need to lean on as things ushered newly into my life with the podcast and coming on to the breakfast club.
And, you know, things just moving and changing and stepping back out onto faith and moving out of Delaware from helping out my mom a bit when I left L.A.
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It was called Girlfriends, and it's a woman's evening that they do at Seed's Church.
And they have various different things that they do.
So this is like, you know, something that they do at different times,
and they invite different speakers and all of that.
But this Friday, Pastor Sarah Jake's Roberts came to speak to us.
She is the daughter of TD Jakes.
She is the wife of Toray Roberts,
who you guys may know from One Church, L.A.,
in various other places as well, too, author as well.
But let me tell y'all, like, when,
and I've always tapped in to Pastor Sarah
just because, number one, I think she's fly.
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but, like, also going to come through
in a nice little pump and a nice little fit.
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And just Pastor Terey and Pastor Sarah as a unit have always just been very, very attractive to me in the way that they need their lives because they, they're everywhere.
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because those are the type of people that raised me.
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world.
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and so easily?
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or if it's because I was at my church where I felt home at.
And you know what I mean?
Like it's just, it's different when you with your people.
You can kind of like chill a little bit and be open to hearing things a little bit differently.
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So she talked to us about something that was really special.
She talked about anger.
And the reason why, first of all, I thought that this was clever of her to do at a woman's-based event,
especially an event full of black women, was because black women and anger, you call a black woman angry,
it's the most disrespectful thing you can do.
They're going off on you.
The next is rolling.
Honey, the lips is smacking.
That's just not a conversation we ever want to be associated with.
But she talked about anger and owning it.
and being associated with it in a way that I've never heard someone talk about it before.
So she talked about what it looks like when you begin to sharpen your target.
So when you're angry at something or angry about something or angry at someone,
understanding where the anger is actually coming from and using what comes up in you
to target the real thing and not what we think is a thing.
Let's get into the clip.
I'm going to take you into the Bible and one we've always.
is the foundation of woman evolve is built on Genesis 3 and 15 one of the things
that I love about this scripture and there are so many things but one of the things
that I love the most is that it says that the Lord told the serpent that he put
hostility between the woman and the serpent hostility that's anger that's
content that he puts is not where the enemy has hostility towards the woman
he put hostility between them and when
we find ourselves hating ourselves, we're taking the hostility that should have been targeted
towards the enemy and internalizing it against ourselves. But scripture says that he put hostility
between the serpent and the woman. That means that the Lord understood that there is something
that the woman possesses when she gets angry that can be channeled into action that can allow
my kingdom to be established in the earth. If a woman
gets angry and she remembers who the right target is, she will go to war with the enemy.
Your hostility is what the Lord placed between you and the serpent.
That's why you can't hate on another woman.
That's why you can't be distracted hanging on some man that walked out on you.
No, no, no, the hostility is between you and the enemy.
You got to make sure you have the right target.
She said when a woman has the right target, things change.
when I tell you all she got into the things.
And I understood her because, you know, I feel like a lot of times in life, especially, I mean, personal life, career, when you are working so hard for things to work out a certain way or when you just have a lot on the line, a lot of people who rely on you, whenever things veer off or just don't happen in a way that you think that they should or someone's in the way or, you know, just, you got that one little thing that just ticks you off and maybe throws you off of what.
your vibe, your hustle, you know what I mean?
Like, this throws you off.
You're so pissed off.
You're so upset.
And a lot of times now in this space that I'm in this new body, you know, I ain't got my
body done, y'all, but I got a new body.
I've had to take on, like, a very different approach to how I deal with things because
I'm so people fixing now that, like, one wrong anything could do a lot of damage to
everything I just talked about, what I'm working on, what I'm working on.
working for, the people who are relying on me. Also, like, you know, I always like to think that
I, like, I'm still a student, but having to be okay with still being a student while you have
success in some areas is, like, I think only the best and the humblest of people who are
actually normally, like, really successful because they're able to understand that, like,
when you walk into a new area, like, or a new room or I sit at a new table, none of what
you've done before you got there matter. Everything, the only thing that matters is how much
you're willing to learn right there in that moment from the people that are there with you.
Because you're there for a reason. But if you want to elevate from that space, you got to look
at the people that are already doing it. All of that takes, it's like a posturing thing. Like,
it takes such a posture. I can't even describe it in words. But that has been, you know,
my journey right now. So when I'm hearing her talk about this, I'm thinking about so many different
things and so many different frustrations and how it's like what are you spending your time on
like what are you spending your time upset about what are you spending your time like how many times
like i literally was asking myself sitting there Lauren how many times have you been mad at not
like your target has been off whether it's you being mad because you're in your own way or you know
the accountability isn't there or like whatever the case may be how much time have you
wasted, like putting anger in the wrong places when anger really, all it is is like a fuel or
motivation for you to get things done, to get to a finish line. So she's talking that night and,
you know, she also, you know, talks a bit about how she even got to the point where now she
is pastoring the Potter's house out of Texas, which is traditionally T.D. Jakes' church
where he actually pastors. But you guys will remember back in November of 2024, Pastor T.D. Jakes
passed out on the stage of his church live,
like live broadcast in the middle of preaching during the service.
And at the time, none of us knew what happened.
He ended up coming out a few months later
and Legonsoned that he had a massive heart attack.
He spoke to Craig Melbourne at the Today Show
back in March of 2025 about that heart attack.
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What did happen to you that morning on stage?
You know, I didn't really.
realized what was happening to me on stage until I got to the hospital in an ambulance
and fussing that it happened on stage, by the way, because I didn't want it to happen.
And the doctor leaned over in my ear and said you had a massive heart attack.
And the reason I didn't realize it is because I had none of the symptoms that they say
no numbness, no sharp pain, no anything.
I just kind of drifted off to sleep.
I didn't know what it was, but I almost died.
Massive heart attack.
He said five minutes later, I'd have been dead on arrival.
But right side of my heart had completely stopped getting blood at all.
And as long as I was up preaching, I felt fine.
But when I sat down, the adrenaline dropped.
And it exposed the fact that I was preaching with half of my heart closed through a clot.
And they had to go get it.
And it was an amazing experience, man.
It was just total, the whole experience, not just what they saw.
So, but the surgery, everything.
They say sometimes that when you come that close to death, you see things, you hear things.
Did you see or hear anything?
I wasn't there in the chair.
It wasn't, I didn't experience like it looks like.
It's hard for me to look at that video because I wasn't, they had to claw the microphone out of my hand.
And I wrote a book, Don't Drop the Mic.
So I didn't plan to live up to it like that.
But they had to claw it out of my hand.
But in my mind, I was in a quiet piece.
peaceful, serene, white enveloped, cloud enveloped space.
I was on my way out.
So from the outside looking in, right, when it's announced that Pastor T.D.
Jakes and her husband, Torrey Roberts are going to go back to Texas and go back to, you know,
and sit at the helm of the church and run the church and kind of take things over.
And T.D. Jakes would still be doing a lot of things, but he just wouldn't be at the forefront,
which if you are a child of a person who is running a business, running a brand, whatever,
you know what that's like.
It gets to a point where your parent is just you have to step up.
Like regardless of whatever you're doing in your life, you have to step up, you have to step
in, have to help facilitate.
So I understood it.
But from the outside looking in, it looked like, okay, maybe health-wise, he's to a point
where he just can't continue on.
And I do think that that was a part of it, even though she didn't talk about that
at our church service.
But what she talked about was something that we would have never known from the outside looking in.
She talked about how even identifying anger in her life and the fact that she wasn't targeting it to the right places was because of that call to be returned back to pastor over that church in Dallas.
Because that's the church that she grew up in.
She had a baby very young.
She had a baby at 14 years old while her, you know, she's a pastor's kid.
and she's pregnant at 14.
So you can imagine what she went through, you know, judgment-wise and just not feeling
like enough, feeling like she made, you know, bad decisions and having to live her life
through all of that while your dad is out being T.D. Jakes, right?
And she said that it caused so much anger in her.
I would play the clip.
But at that point in the service, I was so into it.
I wasn't even recording.
Like, I was just like, I need to get this and I need to get it now.
And she was, you know, talking about how being able to just, I was.
identify and be okay with the fact that she was angry, that was the first step. And then once she
identified that, she used that to fuel what her service in that church would look like, what,
you know, hitting different goals in her life around the fact that she had to move to Texas
would look like. And it made me think a lot about, number one, the fact that, like, in the media,
right? Because she also talked about having a very weird relationship with social media and
media in general and not being as vulnerable as she used to be and blogging and stuff like that because now,
you know, she's super famous as well too and everything gets picked up and I understand that.
It makes you not want to like you do as minimal as possible. You do what you need to do and you
log off and I've gotten in that practice and I hate it because I've never been like that.
I've always been very like, you know, let's share, let's talk. And I think, you know, it's a time and
place for everything. You can do everything respectively. But I understood what she was saying because I thought back
to the way that I even covered and reported on her return back to that church in Dallas.
There was such an opportunity for a bigger conversation of what she as a person might have
needed to heal from at that time and the support she needed publicly, like, and people saying
it and letting her know, like, you know, none of what you're returning to is who you are now.
But we covered it just as like, you know, her father, the emergency, her returning back now.
it's just very surface level.
But I mean, you just never know.
So hearing her talk about that in real time,
I'm just looking around.
There were thousands of people in church, y'all.
I've never seen church pack like that.
I mean, you had to literally park parking lots, like, down the road.
There was a line of cars from two different angles,
both on the, like, you know, turning in left and turning and right,
just waiting to be able to park.
They turned away hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.
that is the type of impact and reach that she has.
So to even begin to imagine what it feels like to be her and to be, you know,
she's talking about being vulnerable, being judged, being angry.
And she's on stage telling all of us this.
And I was like, yo, I'm looking around like the way that platform and positioning can be used,
when you're really like open to understanding what it is that your mission is
and what you were called here to do,
but also when you're not running from it,
because a lot of what I was hearing from her was
she ran from a lot of the things
that were placed in her life
that she had to experience.
Because the woman that I heard talking on that stage,
I told you, I've watched her preach before,
and everything she does is amazing.
But Friday night, Sarah Jax Roberts,
she was just Sarah.
She was a girl who has been through some things
that wanted to talk to us from a real place.
And if she hadn't went through
what she went through,
the over 2,000 women that were in that room,
whether you were sanctified holy oil on the forehead, big hat, or not,
wouldn't have felt her the way that we did.
And I promise you guys,
there were so many people in there that were not members of the church.
They were just there for her.
And that's what, like, impact and calling looks like in real time.
And so to witness that, I was like, oh, my God.
But to hear her talk about it, you know,
when she talks about not being as vulnerable anymore,
I'm like, oh, no.
No, we need that.
But I understand, you know, the things that you go through.
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A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
or my career in sports media.
Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with,
some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,
stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,
this is right where you need to be.
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What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Wodom.
My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network.
It's Will Ferrell.
Woo, woo, woo, woo.
My dad gave me the best advice ever.
I went and had lunch with him one day.
And I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent.
He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
Yeah.
He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
And he's like, just give it a shot.
He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
Just hang in there.
Yeah, it would not be.
Right, it wouldn't be that.
There's a lot of luck.
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There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either.
We always say that trust your girlfriends.
I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends...
Oh my God, this is the same man.
A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
I felt like I got hit by a truck.
I thought, how could this happen to me?
The cops didn't seem to care.
So they take matters into their own hands.
I said, oh, hell no.
I vowed I will be his last target.
He's going to get what he deserves.
Listen to the girlfriends.
Trust me, babe.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
And it made me also think a lot about, you know,
we've been reporting a lot on Cardi B going into our next story
here in the latest.
And Cardi B just finished a headlining arena tour.
And she is the first female rapper to do.
do so since Nikki Minaj did so in 2023, I'm sorry, in 2024, from 2024 to 26,
Nikki Minaj did her Pink Friday Two World Tour and made history as a highest grossing tour by
a female rapper. And Cardi B just did it with her Little Miss Drama tour, right? And her tour
grossed over $70 million reportedly and sold more than $450,000 tickets across a 35
city run. But Cardi talked a lot. We talked about on the prior episode. Cardi talked a lot about
going through such a dark space over the last year or two because she didn't feel enough.
She didn't feel like she had what it took. She was listening to a lot of outside people.
She like, I don't know, she just was in a very different space. And she was vulnerable about that.
And vulnerable. And I think, you know, when you think about people that are on these platforms that
are vulnerable, I think people connect to them and can sell out arenas and do all these.
different things because what happens to the best of us is when you come about of it,
you know how to target it. Cardi talked about using that anger and using that feeling of not
feeling good enough and, you know, everything she was dealing with and being like, you know what,
I'm going to get on this tour and I'm going to show y'all what I need to do. The last tour stop
in Atlanta, Cardi brought out Missy Elliott. She brought out, they had Shamar on the stage.
If y'all don't know, Shamar's an Instagram influencer, hilarious. T.I. On the stage.
Like, there were so many people there.
Tyler Perry was there.
I saw Candy from Roe House of Atlanta.
Portia Williams, Real House of Atlanta.
I mean, I'm forgetting some names.
There were so many people that came out to Super Lotto
that came out to support Cardi, right?
This tour sells out 35 cities.
She made history.
She started this tour, not even feeling good enough to do it
or good enough to release an album.
And now look at her.
And it's crazy because I started looking,
into like, why is it so hard?
Because before, so you have Cardi B who did, you know,
the Little Miss Drama tour was just wrapped this past weekend.
Ninky Minaj made history, you know, setting records with her concerts and her short,
her tours with her Pink Friday Two World Tour.
And she grossed over $108.8 million.
And at the time, she was the first female rap artist to sell out every show consecutively
during the first American leg, which included 30.
36 39 dates.
And then prior to this, you saw Doge Cat.
She did an arena tour with her Scarlet Letter tour.
That was in 2023.
And it was her first arena tour, actually.
And she didn't completely sell out that tour, but there were some dates that sold out.
But she grossed over $46 million.
Missy Elliott, you know, how ironic that little, that I was going to say Little Kim,
because Cardi brought out Little Kim in New York.
But how ironic that Cardi B brought out Missy Elliott, who also sold out an arena tour
in 2024.
But I don't know if people remember this
because it was shocking at the time,
but I think it went over a lot of people's heads
because it's Missy Elliott
and she should have been done it.
That was Missy Elliott's first ever headlining arena tour.
It was an out-of-this-world tour
which grossed roughly $33 million.
And she had some sold-out nights in major markets.
But it was 2024.
Missy Elliott, we wouldn't have a Cardi B
and Nikki Minaj without a Missy Elliott, right?
And she's just now doing,
her headlining arena tour in 2024.
Before that, it was Lauren Hill,
who, you know, she sawed out arenas globally before.
But, you know, notoriously,
she does a lot of, like, anniversary tours
around the miseducation of Lauren Hill,
including one that, you know,
had some conversation around it back in 2020,
203, 24.
So I started looking up, like, why is it so difficult?
Not difficult.
I had to use that word when we talk about women.
But why is it so, like, hit or miss
or like, oh, my God,
when a woman is it so, like,
woman sells out on arena tour because male rappers do this all the time. And a lot of what I was
seeing is because of, you know, the gender disparities and double standards. Performance expectations
are higher. There's systemic biases and, you know, within the music business. And again,
these are all things these women could have been upset about. But they got to a point where they
used that anger and they targeted it in the right place. And they're forever going to be talked about
because of that.
And when I talk about some of the, you know, the biases and things like that,
it's just things as simple as like, I've heard people say all the time,
female talent is just so much more difficult to break
or more difficult to turn into stars or, you know,
even when you're talking about these tours,
one of the things I saw in some of my research was there's a higher performance baseline.
So female artists are held to like that full package standard.
So when you go see a female artist, you want choreography, you want stage presence,
You want aesthetic changes.
Where male rappers, if it's your favorite rapper,
all he need is a microphone and lyrics,
maybe a dancer or two, if even that,
and a little bit of fire, a little bit of smoke,
a little bit of gun sounds, and y'all good.
Then you had the fact that, I mean,
people will call rap a male-dominated industry in general,
but let's be honest.
With all these last, like, what, year or so,
the girls have been, the anthems have been coming from the ladies.
It's been all us.
But then you also have,
talking about the media again,
there's the media-driven conversation and competitiveness, you know, because everybody's pinned
against each other.
And I think in rat, that happens in general.
But with the women, it just hits different and sticks differently when it happens.
Like, I even thought twice about adding the Nikki Minaj conversation right after Cardi,
even when I was preparing my notes.
And the only reason why I thought twice about is because I'm like, I don't want nobody
to think that I'm comparing them in a way that they've been religiously compared
because we all know that they don't really care for each other.
But I'm like, you have to, like, it's history.
Like, we got to talk about one without talking about the other.
And it would be so amazing if we could do it knowing that maybe we'll see them work together at some point.
But, I mean, we won't see that.
And that's fine, too.
But when I read, my mom said never say never, that's true.
But when I read the, you know, some of the background research that I was doing and it mentioned the media-driven competitiveness,
I'm like, wow, like, imagine how big it would be
if we could see them two together.
But also, too, it's the conversation of like only one at a time.
And I think that that is what causes issues,
like what we saw famously with Cardi B, Nicky Minaj,
and other female rappers.
That whole one woman at a time narrative
when, to be honest with you, like, like I said,
I remember, you know, summer 2024, summer 2025,
it was the girlies that was out here giving you all
the music, y'all was the
Institute, the anthems.
It was the girlies.
So when we support women
in the conversations
in the right way,
the things get done.
But also,
I think when you target
that anger,
like Pastor Sergei X Roberts is saying,
you know exactly where it's supposed to go
and what it's supposed to do.
So, yeah, I just,
you know,
after attending that church service
and having the conversation,
I also got a chance to ask her question
as well.
which maybe we'll do a bonus episode about because I know now we've got to wrap this one up.
We'll do that.
If you're listening to this, go on over and listen to the bonus audio of a private conference.
Not private.
It wasn't private.
Of a question I got to ask Pastor Sarah Jake Roberts about figuring out and standing in your greatness no matter what level you get to.
New levels, new levels.
But yeah, I just left that conversation Friday.
and then I saw everything that Cardi did over the weekend and the support.
And I was just like, man, I got to target my anger better.
I don't know about y'all.
Because men, y'all could do this too.
But ladies, she said if we target our anger at the right places, we literally disrupt.
We move mountains.
We change the world.
I'm signing up to do it.
Let me know if y'all joining me.
This has been another episode of the latest with Lauren LaRosa.
I am your host, Lauren the Rosa.
And I tell you guys every single episode, you could be with.
Anybody, anywhere, talking about all of these things,
but y'all choose to be right here with me,
my lowriders.
I see you guys in my next episode.
Hey.
Thanks, Mom.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits,
my basketball and college football journey,
or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement
to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place.
for raw unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.
Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Bodom. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell.
My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point,
point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore,
it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on
a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be
that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to thanks stat on the IHeart radio app, Apple podcast,
or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd,
was accused of fathering twins.
But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.
You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?
I doctored the test ones.
It took an army of internet detectives
to uncover a disturbing pattern.
Two more men who'd been through the same thing.
Greg Gillespie and.
Michael Marantini.
My mind was blown.
I'm Stephanie Young.
This is love trapped.
Laura, Scottsdale Police.
As the season continues,
Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend.
This is much more famous than I am.
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green.
Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.
On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.
Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.
Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
