The Breakfast Club - #TerenceCrutcher

Episode Date: September 20, 2016

TUE 9/20 - The Breakfast Club addresses yet another shooting death of an unarmed civilian at the hands of the police. A big hee-haw goes to the officers responsible and we discuss additional training that cops should have to go through before they're handed a gun. Former police officer & Marine Steve Wilkos joins the show to address the injustices, conduct of the police force and the 10th season of his talk show, "The Steve Wilkos Show". Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm a lovable a**hole. And this is The Breakfast Club, b****es. Good morning, USA! I mean, the God. Beast of the Planet is Tuesday! Yes, it's Tuesday. Yes, it is. I'm only working off three, four hours of sleep, so I'm not responsible for anything that comes out of my mouth. That's good. What were you doing?

Me too. I was working all day yesterday. I was literally on set working on something real cool all day yesterday. Okay. Didn't rap till 11.30 at night. Okay. Yes. Well, I got some night sleep yesterday.

I did. I was working, too. I hosted Games listening session for his album. Did anybody get shot? No, I got a chance to listen to his album.

His album sounds dope. He has a lot of samples on his album, but his album sounds dope. Game could spit, and he gets busy. Was it a public listening party?

No, it was private. They invited some fans to listen to the album, and then a couple of bloggers and industry people, but it was a little bit of everything. It was definitely dope. Nobody came through in Dream Chasers t-shirt and said, wet the whole place up? Nah, nobody came through

and shot anybody. That was good. Then after that I had to DJ Aces Monday Night Football with Odell Beckham, so I got a chance to watch the game. Did he have a thong on? I wasn't that close to him. Did he have on his rainbow underoos? I wasn't that close to him. You don't have to be. He'll pull them down for you if you ask him.

No, I didn't see that. A couple of Giants were in the building, so it was dope. Shot the tank. I seen Tank R&B singer last night. Oh, Tank in the building. Who likes to get his ass eaten. And Odell Beckham in the building. Stop it.

Stop it. Stop it. And then you know who walked in? Allen Iverson. Dropped one of Clues' bombs for AI, the legend. Now that's exciting. Shut the club down. First of all, first of all, he didn't just walk in.

You going to tell the story? Or do you need me to tell the story? I'm going to tell the story. Okay, all right. So when he walked in, I know A.I. because I went to school at Hampton. Hampton, shout out to everybody from the Hampton Roads area. Hampton, Norfolk, Newport News. This is sexy.

He walked in, said, what's up, NBA? I haven't seen him in a long time. What's up, my G? He said, how's everything? He said, before I leave, I got to get up with you because there's some things I want to talk about. And I said, cool, because I want to get him on the show. Bedani, get him on the show. He goes in the corner, he parties for about an hour,

and then on the way out, he gives me a dab and a hug, and then he walks out. No, he doesn't. Okay. So he didn't have anything to talk to you about. Angela, yeah, he's lying. I saw the video. What he did was, he walked in. Why, why, why? He play the R&B song? He took both his hands, grabbed Envy on both sides of his head,

pulled him in, and kissed him on the forehead. Drop one of the clues, Bob. The forehead kiss. All right. That's my guy. I haven't known AI a long time. Wait, where is this video? I have it.

You posted it? I didn't post it yet. I'm going to post it, though. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. Because that's the legend. That's the legend. Allen Iverson is absolutely a legend. My favorite basketball player ever.

I'm saying that's exciting. Allen Iverson is my club. And that's my homie. I told y'all, he don't feel ringless. He feels like a champion. But you told me that you partied with Odell Beckham and Allen Iverson, but Allen Iverson kissed you on the forehead. Plot twist.

It wasn't like that, you idiot. That's a plot twist, all right? You two stars in a movie last night. Odell Beckham and Alan Iverson, but Alan's the one who kissed you on the forehead. It wasn't like that, you idiot. He was showing love.

Like, Bajit, what's up? Good to see you. I didn't say it was like nothing. All I did was tell the story. Did he not kiss you on the forehead? He did. Okay, that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

He kissed you on the forehead. Congratulations. I mean, not many people have gotten kissed on the forehead by Alan Iverson, sir. Shut up, man. Not many men. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. He kissed you on the forehead. Congratulations. I mean, not many people have gotten kissed on the forehead by Allen Iverson, sir. Shut up, man. Not many men. That's exciting. You know what?

You got to post that video, Envy. He ain't got the heart. He ain't got the heart. Steve Wilkos will be joining us. He's scared of the slander that you will receive. He's scared of the slander that you will receive. Steve Wilkos will be joining us. His show is back on TV.

This is his 10th season, so we're going to kick it with him. Yeah, I'm going to post a video. I ain't got nothing. Post a video. That's Allen Iverson kissing you on the forehead, okay? Ain't this some regular Joe kissing you on the forehead?

You know what? You post it right now. We got front page news coming up. Shade Room, Ball Alert. Get ready. Shut up. And we're about to post a video of Allen Iverson kissing him

on the forehead. What are we talking about on front page news? We are going to talk about the New Jersey resident Ahmad Khan Rahami who was wanted for the bombings in New York City

and New Jersey. He has been arrested. We'll tell you how that went down. And by the way, our friend Donnell Rollins is a foul, foul individual. What'd you say? He put up a meme

talking about DJ Khaled has been arrested in New York. Oh, come on. Then he put a picture of this Ahmed guy. Oh, he's foul. Yes, he is. I'm not messing with him.

All right, keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on, let's go. Y'all, the Breakfast Club. That was Riri with Needed Me. Let's get some front page news. Now, last night, the Eagles beat the Bears 29-14. Now, I don't know if the Eagles were that good or were the Bears just that bad.

Both. Eagles looked pretty good last night. Eagles decent. What's their rookie quarterback named? Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz. He's decent. They pretty good last night. Eagles decent. What's their rookie quarterback named? Carson Wentz? Carson Wentz. He's decent. They looked good last night.

I mean, they ain't no Cowboys. You know what I'm saying? He ain't no Dak Prescott, but he decent. They look way better than the Cowboys last night. Now, let's talk about the cops catching the bomb suspect. Right. Cops did arrest New Jersey resident Ahmad Khan Rahami. He's the one who was wanted for New York City and New Jersey bombings.

They did say they did face recognition from the video footage near the scene. And he's the one who actually set off panic in Chelsea and in Elizabeth, New Jersey, but he failed to detonate eight other explosives. They did catch him in Linden, New Jersey. Now, I guess he was sleeping in the vestibule of a bar and some men spotted him. They called the cops. The cops came. He started shooting at the cops because he was asleep. When he woke up, He started shooting at the cops because he was asleep. When he woke up, he started shooting at the cops. And there was a shootout. They did shoot him in the leg.

They captured him. He is alive. So they believe that he is the one who was tied to the Chelsea bombing, which injured 29 people. How do cops freaking choose who they're going to kill? It seems to me like this guy Ahmed should have got gunned down. He definitely should have got shot. But people getting shot at random traffic stops or because their car stalled on the side of the road, they walking around with their hands up, and they get shot and killed.

But this guy is wide awake on the front page of the New York Post this morning? Well, probably because they got to ask him questions, but they should have shot him. He shot two cops. Oh, ask me questions, too, before you shoot and kill me or at random traffic stops. I guess they feel your life is not as good as this guy's life, which is crazy. Now, let's talk about this unarmed man killed.

Yes, Terrence Fletcher was killed by the police in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The police department did release a video yesterday of that encounter. A white police officer fatally shot him. He was an unarmed black man, and he was raising his hands above his head. They're saying that he did not have a gun on him. There was no gun in the vehicle or anything. So not sure exactly what happened, but they said that he had acted erratically. He wouldn't

comply with several orders. He tried to put his hand in his pocket and that's when they said they started shooting. I didn't see none of that on the video I watched. On the video I watched, I saw a man outside of his car with his hands up in the air. Right, exactly. I didn't see him lunging nobody. I didn't see him attack nobody. I didn't see him

put his hands in his pocket. Following commands. I don't see him lunging nobody. I didn't see him attack nobody. I didn't see him put his hands in his pockets. I was following commands. I don't understand. When do you get pulled over or you see a police officer and automatically they tell you to put your hands up? His car is in the middle of the road. We have the audio. Obviously something's wrong. The vehicle's dashboard camera. I'm still walking and following commands.

Not for taser, I think. I've got a feeling that's about to happen. That looks like a bad dude, too. To be on something. I think he may have just been tasered. Shots fired! 321, we have shots fired. We have one suspect down. We need to enter here.

The most disturbing part of that video to me is when they say he looks like a bad dude. Why does he look like a bad dude? Like he's on something. He didn't even do anything. Why does he look like he's on something? He didn't look erratic to me. He was standing outside his car with his hands up in the air. How do you as a police officer driving down the road to go to another

situation, see this car stalled on the side of the road and don't offer help? Why did your mindset immediately go to, we need to hurt this guy? Right. Why was criminal? Why did he have to put his hands up? And I think this woman, the woman police officer was scared to death too.

And I think she meant to pull her taser. I really do. Not making excuses for her at all, but I really think she was scared to death. Why would she be scared

to death when there's so many other officers there? I don't know. But when that first officer... And he hadn't even done anything. Yeah, when that first officer tased her, I really think she thought

she had a taser in her hand. I really believe that. But she don't want to admit that because then she'll look like a super duper idiot. All right. That's a tough one on her hand. I really believe that. But she don't want to admit that because then she'll look like a super duper idiot. That's a tough one there, boy. All right. It's not a tough one.

So sad. No, it is, man. It's not as sad as hell. Tough for who? It's not tough for the family. Yeah, for the family. That wasn't a tough one for the cops.

Lose your father, lose your husband, lose your son. Well, that was Officer Betty Shelby who's the one that fired the fatal shot that killed him. Damn it, man. All right.

I'm numb to it. Right now, she's on paid administrative leave. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, so I'm used to losing. I'm numb to it at this point. I am. I'm numb to it. And then you wonder why Colin Kaepernick's kneeling. So you still want to talk about Colin Kaepernick kneeling,

or you want to actually talk about why he's not standing for the flag? It looks like a bad guy. Why? Because he's black? Yeah, I think we should do it. I think now's the time to start talking about why he's not standing for the flag. Mainstream America. This is the reason.

Okay? Has nothing to do with military. Has nothing to do with being anti-patriotic. Has nothing to do with anything other than being anti-police brutality, anti-prejudice. That's it. All right. Well, that's front page news. Tell them why you're mad.

800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to call us right now. Maybe somebody pissed you off. Maybe you're having a bad morning. Whatever it may be. 800-585-1051. Get that out of my hotline, bro. What?

That New York Giants coffee mug. Get that out of my hotline, bro. It makes me New York Giants coffee mug. Get that out of my eye line, bro. It makes me happy. All right. Makes me happy. Okay, okay, okay. You want a sip? Okay, okay, okay.

All right. All right. You want some? What's that? A bum-ass mug. A bum-ass coffee mug. Ain't nothing wrong with my mug. Can't keep nothing hot?

Everything hot in there. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, yo, this is DMX. You know what makes me mad?

We ask for the truth, but can't handle the truth. Now tell them why you mad on The Breakfast Club, bitches. Hi, this is Keena. I'm calling from Jersey. Keena, tell them why you mad, mama. I'm mad because exactly what Charlamagne just said. Like, how is this guy putting bombs all over an age-poor guy in Oklahoma? He dead, but this guy got a gunshot wound to the leg.

You right. Like, I'm just tired of this. Like, it's just too much. And it's too early in the morning. I ain't have my tea. Charlamagne, I'm with you. Man, I ain't have my green tee yet. I ain't had no egg whites, no nothing.

Hurry up and have it. We got a lot to talk about this morning. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Billy Cotta from Houston, man. Billy Cotta. What's poppin', bro? Nothing much. Nothing much. I'm mad, man, because I'm a truck driver, man. I'm out here driving these trucks and these cars. They be cutting us out. I have no regards for them. We got four loads and we gotta watch out for them.

We need for them to watch out for us like we got to watch out for them. That's why I'm mad, man. You got a big-ass 18-wheeling. You talking about cars got to watch out? He can't press the brakes as fast as those cars. When we step on the brakes, that's it. It ain't going to stop. It's going to keep going.

Oh, okay. Hello, who's this? This is Shima. Shima, tell them where you're at. I bought oatmeal from McDonald's and it was just like soup. And she was like, oh, my God, I know I messed up. McDonald's didn't start serving breakfast all day long for you to be buying oatmeal from them. You should have bought hotcakes.

You got hotcakes. You got them sausages. They got them chicken biscuits with egg. I don't eat none of that. I wanted my fruit. I don't eat none of that. I wanted my fruit. Fake-ass healthy girl.

Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, man? It's your boy Marcus with a K from Miami, Florida. What's up, B? How you doing, Angela? How you doing, Marcus? Why you mad, Marcus with a K? Hey, please do me a favor and do not let young Josh rap ever again.

Ain't he trash? He's not trash. Stop it. Ain't he trash? Yeah, he's trash. He's black. He brought one of Clue's bombs, goddammit. Hey, you say you'd rather listen to Andrew Milonakis.

Hello, who's this? I'm mad because, honestly, I'm living in a world where people are just out here killing people for no reason, especially because they feel like they have the right to open a badge on their chest. And, honestly, I'm mad because I get up every morning wondering, am I going to get pulled over and die today? And I got my mom at home. You know what I mean? And my name is Kevin Cruz, and I'm from Long Island. And it's still hot everywhere we go. You're right. And just to hear how they talk about somebody, he looks like a bad dude.

He wasn't even doing anything. I'm telling you, man. That's a bad dude. It don't matter. In their opinion, they're all paranoid. So everybody is a bad dude to them. You know what I mean? It's a legitimate fear.

I'm driving home last night at around 11 o'clock, 1130, and I am literally, I got the radio off. I'm driving, like, I'm always doing this, but I'm driving very cautious, and that's all I'm thinking about in the back of my mind. That should not be my thought at 1130 at night, being scared to death to be pulled over by the people that are protecting service, because I don't know what could happen.

It's funny, you know, I left the club last night, and I was more pet pulled over by the people that are protecting service because I don't know what could happen. It's funny. I left the club last night, and I was more petrified about the cops pulling me over than the Jack boys. Than the Jack boys out there. That's crazy. You know why I don't? You know why? Why? Because we know how to deal with the Jack boys.

Right. And we know that if the Jack boys pull up on us, we can defend ourselves. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. We don't have that right with the police. Right. Tell them why you're mad.

800-585-1051. Call us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. That was Exchange. Bryson Tiller. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just waking up or if you haven't heard, another African-American man was, an unarmed man, was killed. Now, where did this happen to you? This was in Tulsa, Oklahoma. His name is Terrence Crutcher. He was 40 years old, and he was unarmed.

He had no weapons in the vehicle at all. And the police officer, Betty Shelby, actually shot and killed him after they received reports of an abandoned vehicle that was blocking a road. They show him in dashboard camera video footage. He's raising his hands. He's walking toward a car. He's leaning against it. Then he was tasered. And then Officer Shelby fatally shot him.

I don't understand why you're pulling up to the scene of a situation like that. Like you're pulling up to the scene of a violent crime. Right. Like they didn't call and say it's a guy out here with a gun going crazy on people. They said it's an abandoned vehicle. So if you pull up to an abandoned vehicle and you see somebody on the side of the road, as a police officer, is it your job to protect and serve? So at that point, you should be serving.

Hey, how can I help you? What's wrong, buddy? Not put your hands up. Get your hands behind your back. Like, come on, bro. No gun was found. No gun was found. No weapon was found. They shot the man.

The man died. He had his arms raised in the air. A mother lost his son. A child lost their father. He had four kids. Four children lost their father. I think I really believe that that young lady was shook to death. And I believe they got to get these scary ass people.

She shouldn't be a police officer. Get these scary ass people off the police force. 42-year-old woman. I think when one cop tased her, I really think she panicked. Because if you think about it, if you outwit somebody, right, your partner, and you see your partner do something, you feel like you need to do something too. Because you're thinking that he may see something that you don't see. And I really feel like she just panicked.

She didn't know what to do. She didn't know what to do. I really feel like she just blacked out. Also, Steve Wilkos will be joining us. Of course, he has his own talk show. He comes from the Jerry Springer bloodline, and this is his 10th season, so we'll talk to him next hour, too.

So keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. And we got rumors coming up. What are we talking about in the rumors? Yes, we'll talk about a hip-hop artist who is battling cancer and what she had to say. Also, do you believe that Drake is better

than Tupac and Biggie? I saw this over the weekend, but with all the game and Meek Mill drama, we didn't get to it. I just want to get your opinion on what one artist had to say. Okay, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. On Breakfast Club. So listen up. Well, there's some video of Lil Yachty on his tour bus. He's hanging with his friends, and they're talking about hip-hop. Right. And who's better than who?

Well, they think that Drake is the best. Here's Lil Yachty. Drake is better than tupac and biggie They have to be. Oh. Come on, Drake, they sound like this. This ain't even too bad singing, though. Drake do it. What's the problem with that? Why is this news?

It does hurt my heart, but that's their age. You upset a bunch of teenagers for repping their generation? That's their age. What's the problem? Well, nobody said we were upset. I'm just telling you what they said. So why the news? That's what I'm saying.

Why the news? It was a big story when it happened. Well, part of it is because Lil Yachty doesn't even know Tupac or Biggie's songs. And that's my thing. They haven't even digested all of Tupac and Biggie's music to come to that conclusion. But guess what? I bet you they know every Drake record, so of course

Drake is the best. That's how they feel. I get it. Right, so that is the story. But you can't say somebody's better if you don't know the other person's songs either. But that's all we do. I can say right now Young Jeezy's one of my top seven favorite artists and somebody be like,

Jeezy? But ain't he probably listened to more than one Jeezy album? You haven't taken enough information to come up with a conclusion but Drake is their guy.

And I think for a lot of people they look at Tupac and Biggie as icons in music and as legends. Not these kids. First of all, suit the Envy's God daughter in the building. Jasmine. Who when we said, do you know who Allen Iverson is? She said, what song did he sing? and as legends. Not these kids. First of all, suit the Envy's God daughter

in the building. Jasmine. Who, when we said, do you know who Allen Iverson is? She said, what song did he sing? Okay? These kids are, and that's fine.

That's fine. That's not her generation. She's 17 years old. That's fine. That's right. But if she was an NBA player, would you expect her to know who Allen Iverson is?

Yes. If you're a rapper, you should definitely know probably some Tupac and Vin. Maybe. Do you know every great radio you should definitely know probably some Tupac and Vinny. Maybe. Do you know every great radio personality ever? No. Okay, maybe.

Maybe. Yeah, you're right. It's like some people argue LeBron better than Michael. You know, I never saw Michael play. But Michael was the best I've seen. But if some little kid tells me, nah, LeBron's better, I'm like, whatever. I don't know. I read Robert Greene's book, Mastery, and he does talk about when you're in a certain field,

trying to master that field and studying the greats. I'm sure you don't know everybody really. I couldn't deny that Tupac and Biggie are greats. That's all I'm saying. First of all, I know authors, Sluke to Malcolm Gladwell, who don't think Robert Greene is that great, but I like Robert Greene.

So it's all subjective. I enjoy his book and historical facts. The Mastery is just a ripoff of Outliers, though, by the way. Well, no idea is original, as they say, right? Everything's a ripoff of something. All right. Now, Travis Scott was hospitalized for dehydration. I guess he was in a hospital bed, and when people expressed their concern,

they said he's fine. He was just dehydrated. He's been doing a lot, though, because his album just came out. He's been traveling all over the place. Everybody loves the album. So Lil Reese also has been hospitalized. He's been diagnosed with Crohn's disease. Now, he said his potassium is too low.

He could suffer a heart attack. He said, I just got out. I got Crohn's. He said he'll be back, though. He said, God got me. I'm going to be straight. That hip-hop lifestyle will kill you, bro. Put down them pills and that alcohol and get some rest.

Hit the gym every now and then. There's no cure for Crohn's disease, just so you guys know. When's the last time you had a vegetable? I'm not going to assume what these guys are eating

or not eating. I'm just talking in general to people. When's the last time you had a vegetable? All right, and Mia X has revealed that she's also battling cancer.

She's been spreading awareness about her cancer that she has. It's a uterine cancer. And she says that it's estimated that about 10,470 deaths from this disease will occur this year.

Explain to the people who Mia X is, though. Mia X is the first female that was signed to No Limit Records and has to be signed. Drop one of the clues bombs for Mia X.

Mia X was hard, bruh. You hear me? One of those female rappers whose lyrics you could quote. She posted, sometimes I pretend like nothing is wrong. I work, smile, dance through my worry

and pain. I think about women who can't afford their copay, their medicine, the additional cost for seeing specialists, women who leave radiation therapy and go to work because they still have bills. I think about the harsh reality of the statistics. Add five years, ten years to your age and then say damn, that's still young though.

Women with cancer worry about their children, spouse, extended family and friends. So she said, please visit foundationforwomenscancer.org to make a donation in her name. Praise up for me, X. Absolutely. Praise up for everybody battling cancer. All right, and that is your rumor report. I'm Angela Yee.

All right, thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, when we come back, we have Steve Wilcox joining us. Of course, he's from the bloodline of Jerry Springer. He started off as Jerry Springer's security guard. And then got his own show, and this is his 10th season. Ask your guard daughter if she knows Steve. You know Steve? You know Steve Wilkos?

She said yes. She knows who Steve Wilkos is. He's on right now. Okay, I'm just asking. I'm going to make sure. That's all. Okay. All right, we'll get into that when we come back.

Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. That was Tory Lanez with love. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building Good morning. That was Tory Lanez with Love Morning. Everybody is DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building this morning.

Yes. I actually thought he was here before, but he wasn't. That's because my mother-in-law watches the show all the time. Let me be clear. He confused you. With Jerry Springer. You should be insulted. You know what? I was flying back from Las Vegas and the flight attendants were like, oh, you're from Jerry

Springer, you know? And I'm like, man, I've had my own show for 10 years now. You know what I was flying back from Las Vegas and the flight attendants. Oh, you're from Jerry Springer You know and I'm like The playboy guy Jesus. Hey, you want some moisturizer, Steve? Wow. Steve Wilco. Man, I'm hungry. That bad. Welcome to the show. Thank you. I can't blame you if you feel like leaving now. Jesus Christ.

But congratulations on 10 years. 10 years. Officially the most successful security guard since Suge Knight. And I do feel like running people over, too. Now, you used to be a cop, right? Yeah. In Chicago? Yep.

How was that? Because that's probably one of the worst areas in the country right now. Yeah. I just came out of the Marines, so when I did it, I really enjoyed doing it. But then you just kind of get beaten down because, you know, people don't like the police. Right. You're fighting all the time. And you don't make a lot of money.

So it's just, you know, like I said, you get a gun and a badge, you're 26 years old, you're going out catching a bad guy. It was fun. But after about seven or eight years, I just was like, nah, this isn't going to be for me long term. So you didn't retire, you just decided. I had enough to draw a pension, but I pulled my pension because for a lot of reasons financially, I didn't want a pension.

So, yeah, but I could have retired. I had 12 years. You only need 10. Oh, so you've done it all. You was a Marine. Yeah, I was in the Marines for six years, yeah. So you hate when Colin Kaepernick kneels for the flag, then? No, I don't hate it.

I mean, it's his right. I don't hate him. I think, you know, there is an issue. I think he's really doing it because he has a problem with what's going on in the country. I have no problem with that at all. Then the media gives it too much attention also. It's like, okay, he did it, but now it's just dragging on.

I'm like, come on, man, let's move on to something else. The NFL has said he has the right to do it. Everybody knows he has the right to do it. But people are acting like he's anti the United States. Anti-military, anti-police. And I understand he's not, and that's why I'm saying, like, people burn flags and stuff. And it's like, that's kind of why the military fights. So you have the right to do things

like that. I mean, whether you like it or not, you have freedoms in this country. And doesn't it bother you when they say he's anti-military, but you watch the way they treat our veterans in this country? Oh, my God. I mean, it's an embarrassment with the VA and the treatment with these guys. And the other day it came out that 22

veterans kill themselves every day. Yikes. You know, there's bigger problems than Colin Kaepernick kneeling, right? Right. Now, how did you get to the Jerry Springer Show? I was walking out of the police station one night at 1 o'clock in the morning, and somebody said, hey, you want to work the Jerry Springer Show tomorrow? So random.

Yeah. Did you know the person? Yeah, it was a guy I worked with. He actually runs the security on my show now. Was it the first episode of Jerry ever? No. This was in 1994. So he had been on a couple years running the show.

It was really boring at that time. But they were doing a Ku Klux Klan show, so they wanted some off-duty cops in the studio. So I was one of the guys, and I thought it was going to be for one day. And then a couple weeks later, they called me back. They liked me. And then the show changed where it became, you know, confrontational. It became WWE.

Right. Yes. I mean, and, man, we had some really drag-out fights. It wasn't like WWE, which is staged, you know. We had really butt-kicking fights. Did you ever get injured? I had two back surgeries, a concussion, tore my groin, and a million cuts and scratches. Oh, so that's why they give you your own show, so you didn't sue them.

We got to take care of this guy. No, it's like they didn't even think of giving me my own show. I mean, that's the crazy thing. People take credit, oh, I got Steve a show. No, you didn't. When Jerry went on Dancing with the Stars, they couldn't shut down the production of the show, so they needed somebody to fill in.

They got the cheapest guy they could get, me. So they thought Jerry would go on Dancing with the Stars and be the first one voted off. Well, he ended up being on there for like six weeks. They had really high hopes for him. I ended up posting like 30 shows, and when those shows aired, they rated really well. So I guess somebody was like, let's give this guy a show.

Let's give him a shot. So it wasn't like somebody came up with the idea of giving me a show. You're always in the right place. Forced on that. Right, you know. Yeah. You've never had aspirations, Steve? Because that's kind of random.

Very random. If Jerry takes off, it's like, okay, let's go grab whoever another talk show guy is. Why are you? Yeah, and I mean, nobody ever in the history of TV did less work than me to get my own show. Because I didn't want my own show. I never thought of getting a TV show. It just happened. I was doing security.

That was what I did for a living. I was a cop, security. I never tried, never auditioned. They just, oh, you're going to fill in? Okay, you know. What does your wife and kids think? Well, my wife's my executive producer, so. Oh, she's part.

You met her on Jerry Springer. Yeah, we met on Jerry Springer. Was it a fight scene? No. She wasn't working. She walked on stage stage and I said, that's not a man, I'm going to marry her. That's romantic.

Why? Does she look manly? That's a true story. No, because you never knew. We had a lot of transsexuals on the show. You're never sure. What if she used to be a man? What if she had used to be a man?

I'd still marry her. She's pretty good. There we go. We see some strange stuff on Jay. Did you ever make that mistake before? Like you saw something hot and you... Well, you know what the strangest thing that ever happened in my mind and, you know, we had a lot of those situations and we had transsexuals on the show that were

just absolutely gorgeous. But we had this one dude, he was a guy, and he got in a fight with another guy and they start ripping each other's shirts off. And then the one guy just had one perfectly formed female breast. I mean, it was gorgeous. So we break for a commercial, and we go backstage, and I go, Hey, dude, what's up with that?

He goes, I was just born that way. And I go, you didn't let anybody know? He goes, well, I didn't think anybody would be interested. Like, who cares? That much money you can make at the one titty man in America. Like Uniboob. Right. And it was good.

And I asked him out for dinner. You went to dinner with him. And none of it was scripted? No. I mean, honest to God, if I brought in an uncensored tape and you watched that, it's so violent. And I was on stage. I'm on all those tapes. And even watching it from a different

perspective, I said, man, this is crazy. This is really nuts. This is really violent. Listen, when the midget's dating the hot stripper on the show, that might be a little scripted. But when we had these hillbillies on that were sleeping with each other's wives, you didn't have to provoke them.

They wanted to fight. You have to wait to react because I've noticed sometimes you let them get a little close sometimes. You know what? There was guys that were like a little jerky, you know, jerk. And I said, okay, hold back a little bit. Let this guy get his ass kicked, you know. And then, you know, there's all the guys.

Okay, let's get in there and break it up right away. So it depends on how much I liked you. All right, we got more with Steve Wilkos when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. That was Drake Rihanna with two good morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Steve Wilkos in the building. Now, Charlamagne. You're doing 10 years. Those same people that said the show was only going to last 13 weeks for you. Throw a middle finger at them right now. Don't kiss my ass. You know what?

I don't even care about them. I didn't care about them then. I've never failed in anything in my life. I was a good Marine. I was a good cop. And I'm a good talk show host. I was a great security guard on Jerry Springer. So the one great thing I learned from the Marine Corps is a work ethic.

So when I got my show, you know, I got on every plane ride to go to every small town in America to promote the show and shook every hand and did every radio interview and woke up, you know, early in the morning. And you look at all the shows that have come out in the last few years, you know, Katie Kirk, Jeff Probst, Ricky Lake, Queen Latifah, all these people that are much bigger stars than me, and they fail. And I think it's because they don't realize the hard work that goes into keeping your show on the air and, you know. It probably helped that you didn't have that name that other people had, so maybe it did

make you go harder as far as promoting it to make it do well instead of sometimes people assume, well, I'm a celebrity already. People know me. I don't really need to. Exactly. And I think that's a big part of the problem with all these shows failing. And then other things like when they brought back Ricky Lake and Arsenio Hall, I think that they're going to walk back in

and their fans are just going to follow them again. Well, a lot of your fans, they've grown up. They're 50 and older now. Right. They're different people. They're not... I mean, I certainly don't watch the same things I did in my 20s, and now I'm in my 50s.

You know, if you don't stay in the eye, you know, you kind of lose it. What was your craziest episode? Well, on my show, it was, we had this woman who thought her daughter was poisoning her. She thought she was pouring bleach in her orange juice. Right, that's when you got hit.

Yeah. And the daughter was, she was really a cute young girl. She seemed so sweet and innocent. I thought for sure she didn't do it. Well, she failed her lie detector test. And her mother flipped out. And I never even saw it.

There was this chest and back of the stage. There was a metal bowl with like a serrated edge. And she picked it up. She tried to hit her daughter, but she cranked me right in the eye. And I thought my eye came out of my head. I really did. I went down. My wife came running up. But then I realized I was okay, and I finished the eye. And I thought my eye came out of my head. I really did. I went down. My wife came running up. But then I realized I was okay and I finished the show. And I went into my green room and the lawyer came and said, oh, don't worry. We're going to cut that all out.

I go, you better not. Leave that in. I got injured. You got to leave that in. Well, you know, half my audience wants to see. Ah, Steve's a bully. Let him go down. You know, and I said, well, let him show it. And it was our highest rated show ever. Wow. Do you ever feel really bad about situations like dealing with women who are dealing with domestic violence? That's a great question. We just did a show. We taped it. We've only been in studio for three weeks now for the 10th season.

And we had this young black girl on. And I think she was involved with a guy that was just bad news. She got really emotional. And I was talking was, she was involved with a guy that was just bad news. She got really emotional. And I was talking to her like, you know, your dad. And she goes, I don't have a dad.

And I, man, the way she said it, it really like did something. It's twisting my stomach. And I put my arm, I go, I want to be your dad.

You can look at me as your dad. And I really meant it. So like when you hear people like that and you know, they're genuine. I mean, some people I just don't like on my show. I'm just like, get the hell out of here. Telling her that, does that mean you have stayed in her life? Oh, we stay in, and that's the thing with my show.

We have a psychologist, all the producers, the producing teams. We do follow-ups on all these people that are on the show, seven days, 14 days, 21 days. We just can't do these type of shows and just throw them back out in the world. I mean, we make sure that we get them into programs if they need to get into certain programs or just help them out in any way we can and we stay in touch with them.

Because we do this segment, Asi, where people ask questions and sometimes people have like the craziest problems and your heart just goes out to them and you're like, I don't want to, you know, I can respond to you and give you advice. But then after that, we have to make sure that we still keep it going.

Right. And that's what we do. The young lady on the premiere who got beat up 15 times, her boyfriend admitted to it. Yeah. Do you ever just want to whip his ass right down the fuck? I would love to. And listen, I'm not going to lie. When I was a police officer and we went on that type of situation and you had to arrest

the guy and if he got a little frisky and started fighting, well, maybe he got a little overzealous. A little justified brutality. You know, and I really had no problem with that. But the sad thing was, we'd be back there two days later because she let him back in. That was the most frustrating part about it. Can you arrest somebody for that? Like, say he's admitted that he's been beating her. Is that now a crime?

Well, most of the people on the show aren't from Stanford, Connecticut. So the police have no jurisdiction. But there's cases where people have used the tapes of the show and went back and the judge has watched the show and he's used it as evidence against people. So it does happen. And some people, we've escorted them to jail. They were wanted or they were going to turn themselves in. And we sent our security with them to take them to jail.

And they turned themselves in. All right, we got more with Steve Wilkos when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. See, I'm just going to keep it. That was the dream. Love your girl.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Steve Wilkos in the building. Now, you are ex-cop, and you see all these unarmed African Americans getting shot like what happened yesterday in Tulsa. What do you think about the police department now? Listen, I don't think people ever like the police. The first simple fact is when you do have interaction with police, it's mostly a negative thing happening in your life.

It's not like you won some money. You're getting a parking ticket. You ran a red light. So, you know, people are pissed off. Somebody put the police on you. You're getting arrested. Right. So most of your interaction with the police is not too positive.

So people don't like the police. Now, I'm not an idiot. I've seen shootings that are totally unjustified. And those policemen should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I have no problem with that. I don't want a thin blue line. If you shoot somebody, listen, a couple of cases, one in Louisiana where the guy was around with his wife

and the kid was in the back, and he got pulled over for a broken taillight. Oh, that was Philando Castillo. First of all, I never pulled anybody over in my life for a broken taillight. Oh, that was Philando Castillo. First of all, I never pulled anybody over in my life for a broken taillight, right? That's a waste of time. And if somebody ends up dead because of a broken taillight, like the guy in South Carolina, he pulled the guy over. Walter Scott.

Right. And the guy is running away, and the cop lights him up. Well, that guy should go to jail for the rest of his life. But those become the focus. And really, if you look at the numbers, those are very small numbers of bad shootings. And then, you know, you have this big movement against the police.

And I'm like, you need the police. You really do. If you don't have it, society is going to be chaotic. I think it's more against police brutality, though. Well, of course. But I'm saying that 99% of the police men and women that go to work, nobody's looking to kill anybody.

I mean, I was a policeman in the most violent district in America. Plenty of times I could have shot somebody. They had a knife, they had something in their hand. I always gave them a chance. Put it down, put it down, put it down. Did you ever have to shoot at someone? I shot at somebody one time. I got into a shootout. But it was just, they were shooting at me.

So, you know. I feel like. No, I was buried behind a car and I wasn't even looking at what I was shooting. I feel like it would be less resistance against the police if more people heard people talk the way you spoke just now. Like more people on the force now. Right. You simply said these things are wrong. People need to be prosecuted.

I just really believe that most police men and women go to work just like I did. You wanted to go to work and you wanted to come home. I could have shot 50 guys. I never shot anybody because I always gave a chance. And I certainly never had my gun pointed at somebody that didn't

even have a weapon. You got to be ready to fight. And that's my other point. And I'm glad you brought that up. I think you have shootings because you got people that have no business being a police officer. They've lowered the standards across America to get people to be policemen and they

have no experience with using force in their own personal life. Like, we're guys. I'm sure you've been in a fist fight in your life, right? So even though you might not enjoy it, you don't like it, you're willing to defend yourself. You got these guys or women, whoever, that have never used force

in their life, and now the only way they're going to use force is with a gun. Right? I just think that the stands have been lowered that you got people that have no business being a police. When I was in the police academy, even when I was going through, I just came out of the Marine.

So police academy was nothing. It was like nursery school for me. But you had people that couldn't get over that six-foot wall, and that was one of the conditions. Well, then after the weekend, I see these guys, they got their blue uniform. You got your blue uniform after you got over that wall. I go, when did they go over the wall? Oh, over the weekend.

Okay, yeah, right. Nobody's coming in on a weekend going over that wall. But they pass them did they go over the wall? Oh, over the weekend. Okay, yeah, right. Nobody's coming in on a weekend going over that wall. But they pass them through. They're just pushing people through. Pushing people through. Like no child left behind type thing. And I think, you know, one thing we should do is give priority to veterans, you know, if they want to be police officers because they've been in these

combat situations and, you know, experience under fire. So I think if they do raise the level to become a police officer and get people that are experienced And also you don't make a lot of money so maybe if financially. Right, it's public service. Right? I mean, you know, you do it because you're not looking to get rich but it's, you're going to get a good job, you're going to get a decent salary, good benefits,

retirement early. Those are the draws to it. You're not going to become a millionaire unless you get your own talk show. Why is there such a blue wall of silence, though? Why don't more people say, more cops say what you just said? I think because you're afraid. Because if you start talking

at this, you know, you might be the next guy at the end of a weapon, you know? You might not be looking at it either. So I think that's part of the problem. You think the body cameras are a great idea now? I'll be honest, I wouldn't want to wear one because I think sometimes

if you did everything exactly by the book, you would never be an effective policeman. You know what I mean? Chicago now, because of all this protesting and everything against the police, most policemen, if you read in the paper, they're not doing anything. The guns taken off the street has dropped dramatically.

Arrests for murder dropped drastically. And I guarantee you, and I worked in those neighborhoods, so I know, there's a lot of those people, they want the police doing their job. Because they want to walk down the street. They want their kids to be able to walk down the street. So they want stop and frisk.

They want gangbangers harassed. And they should be. Right. You know, like, you know, you have people in their communities that they just simply want their kids to walk to school and not get shot. Right. And if you take that away from the police to be the police, there was times, you know, we'd say, get off the corner. They get off the corner. We made them get off the corner, if you know what I mean.

Right. And there's people that love me on their beat because they knew I wasn't going to tolerate guys doing stuff on the beat like that. Well, let's ask the million-dollar question. Who's a better talk show host, Steve Wilkos or Jerry Springer? Uh-oh. I'm the best talk show host on TV, period. Okay, Steve. All right.

And you can catch him every Monday. The season starts yesterday. It started yesterday at 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. on Channel 11. Congratulations, Steve Wilkos. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report.

This is the Rumor Report. Talk to him. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, you see all this beef between the game and Meek Mill and Sean Kingston all has to do with this robbery that allegedly happened in the club. Well, now there's some new claims. Now, according to law enforcement,

they're saying that they never even heard about Game or Meek after this $300,000 chain robbery went down in the club. Now, Game says the cops knocked on his door and spoke to him about the robbery, but sources are saying that no such visit ever happened. And the case was closed because Sean Kingston refused to return the cops' phone calls. Now, what Sean Kingston's sources are saying is that Sean's mom just assumed Game had something to do with it because he was in the club. He was in their VIP section.

Witnesses saw his people sucker punch him and rob him. So that's why Sean Kingston's mom got involved and went on social media and blamed the game for all of this. Now, Game is still convinced that Meek lied to Sean's people and said that he was involved in the whole chain snatching incident. According to Sean Kingston's lawyer, she's saying that he never spoke to cops and that the only thing he's doing is suing the club for negligence. Clearly, somebody said that the game was involved. I don't personally believe that somebody was Meek Mill, though. We just don't know. I have no idea.

I don't know. I don't know what happened. All right, all I know is that now there's a beef going on. Because Mama Kingston wouldn't just jump on social media and start randomly blaming... Unless somebody told her. Unless somebody told her. They got that from somewhere.

Yeah, because she wasn't in the club. Right. All right. Now, Derrick Rose is saying that he wants the identity of the woman who was accusing him of rape to be revealed. All because she is going around

and doing interviews. She's doing phone interviews. She did a news conference, all of that. So, because Jane Doe and her lawyers are openly pandering to the media on a nationwide blitz tour, she should be precluded from using a pseudonym for any purpose, including media coverage.

He's right. He thinks that she's just trying to extort him, trying to get the case to play out in the court of public opinion right now so she can get some action. Yeah, you can't give interviews about me and remain anonymous. Yeah. All right? He's like, no. No.

I'm surprised she's managed to remain anonymous for this long. That is a fact. Especially in this era of transparency. All right. Now, it looks like the lid is about to be blown off of something huge. This all started with Corey Feldman and Corey Haim. They were actually talking about being sexually abused in Hollywood when they were kids. Who are those?

Who are the Corey kids? Who are they? Corey Feldman and Corey Haim were pretty big actors and they had a show that was called The Two Corys. I ain't never seen that in my life. You never seen that show?

Try again. What's the number one I might know him from? You know them from The Surreal Life. I know the one on the left. I do know both of them. I don't know the one on the right.

I know them when I see them. Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Corey Feldman's done a whole lot of reality shows ever since then. He always used to be with Michael Jackson and everything. They were in a lot of movies when ever since then. He always used to be with Michael Jackson and everything. And they were in a lot of movies when you were growing up.

What was he doing with Michael? Well, let me explain all of this to you. But the two Corys was a pretty big reality show. And on that show, Corey Haim broke down and revealed that he was raped as a kid. Corey Haim has since died. He had a lot of trouble with drugs. And then he died from pneumonia six years ago. But Corey Feldman wrote his memoir as Choreography,

and he talks about how he and Corey Haim were groomed for abuse by predators. It's actually kind of cute because it's spelled like Corey Feldman. He's not a dancer. Anyway, he talks about being groomed for abuse by predators. He said they suffered, and they actually grew close. They were shooting the film back in 1986 called Lucas, and they said an adult male convinced

him it was perfectly normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations. It was what all the guys do. So that's when they went to a secluded area between two trailers and Corey Haim allowed himself to be sodomized. So I guess Corey Haim and Corey Feldman were so close, they talked to each other

about how all of these things would happen. Now they did say that some directors protected them, like Steven Spielberg and Richard Donner were trusted friends, but other adults did some great harm to them. Corey Feldman in particular talks about one of his father's assistants who actually used his position to take advantage of him. He gave him a concoction of booze and drugs and had oral sex with him, and that was his 15th birthday. He talks about him.

Corey Feldman and Corey Haim had five men flanking around them and all of them sexually abused the two of them. But he got a train rental. Well, they were little kids, though. They were teenagers being sexually abused. Now, Corey Feldman did go on Wendy Williams' show previously, and here's what he had to say. What is sexual abuse in Hollywood?

Well, I mean, sexual abuse or pedophilia. Pedophilia. There's two different... Yes, and I heard you name names. Originally, I did, yeah. And then your book publisher took the names out. Because of the statute of limitations or something. Well, it's legality.

See, everybody wants to put the blame on me. Why aren't you putting the names out there? Why are you protecting them? I'm not protecting nobody. How old were you when you were first sexually violated by a man? 12 years old. Jesus. Right, so the reason all this is coming up now is because

even though Corey Feldman can't reveal who it is, they're saying it's an A-list Hollywood star that was the sexual predator that everyone is talking about, and that person is about to be revealed any day now. Why wouldn't you just tell people now? You done fell off now, Corey. You got your book out. You got to sell these books, baby.

He could even say allegedly and get away with it. I don't even know allegedly. If somebody sodomized me, it ain't no allegedly. I'm telling you that this man was in my butt. What he's saying is there's a lot of legal issues that could come from that, and I guess this person's a really huge star. Who cares?

They're scared about that. The man is in your butt. That might hurt anything that you're trying to do. What am I trying to do other than bring awareness to the fact that this man is a pedophile and has been a pedophile for years? But there's a lot of kids who have spoken about this. Elijah Wood said that he was protected from all of this because his mother would not allow him to attend these parties. They were parties for preteen actors where predators would groom their next victims. See? And a lot of kids would go to these.

Even Allenton Arngrim, who played Nellie Olsen on Little House on the Prairie, said the abuse was an open secret. She said, I literally heard they were passed around. The word was they were given drugs. They were being used for sex. All these kids, they weren't even 18 years old yet. Kids, nobody should want to be on that bat. Okay?

I'm not going to the party where they're sobbing and talking. I think it's also little kids that don't really know so much, because they're very young from the age of 11. What about the parents? Parents don't go with their kids? They should. Okay, so I guess any day now we're going to find out who is this person. And they said one of Corey Haim's closest confidants is about to tell all.

And he actually got offered a primetime TV special to do so. So we'll see. All right, well, that is your report. I'm Angela Yee. All right. Where do we go from here? Donkey. And happy birthday to Aishal Bell.

She hit us up on Twitter and said today's her birthday. She wants a shout out. Okay. Sorry it happened right after that. Charlemagne. I hate you. What? Why would you give a birthday shout out after that?

You could have waited five minutes. I just didn't want to forget. Okay. She'll never forget now. All right. Charlemagne. Yes. What are you giving that donkey to?

Wow. I'm not giving my donkey to anyone, but I am giving someone donkey. All right. Okay. I'm giving donkey today to Betty Shelby. She deserves it. And what's the other officer named? Tyler Turnbow.

Okay. The Tulsa, Oklahoma officers. They need to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have another word about the same situation. Okay? All right. Same thing keeps happening over and over and over and over again. All right.

Well, let's get to it when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Get your ass up. Charlamagne, say the gang. Don't get under the shade. Charlamagne. You are a donkey.

It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit me with the heat. It's The Breakfast Club, bitch. Who's Donkey of the day today? Well, here we go again. Donkey of the day for Tuesday, September 20th.

Make sure I ain't got no boogers. Donkey of the day for Tuesday, September 20th goes to Officer Tyler Turnbow and Betty Shelby of the Tulsa Police Department. Now, if you haven't seen the video footage released yesterday, it shows Tulsa Police Department. Now, if you haven't seen the video footage released yesterday, it shows Tulsa police shooting an unarmed black man, of course, to death, okay, on Friday night after he approached his SUV with his arms raised.

R.I.P. to Terrence Crutcher. I hope I'm pronouncing that brother's name. 40-year-old father of four. I know you're wondering, well, what happened? Was there a crime committed? Did he get pulled over? Did he have a weapon? Of course not.

Officers were responding to a call, a couple of 911 calls, of a car being stalled on the side of the road. That car was Terrence's. His vehicle had been reported abandoned at 7.36 p.m. and left running in the middle of the road. Terrence simply needed help. That's what police officers are supposed to do, serve. They are public servants here to serve the needs of the road. Terrence simply needed help. That's what police officers are supposed to do, serve. They are public servants here to serve the needs of the public.

So why, oh why, did Betty Shelby and Officer Tyler Turnbaugh approach this situation as if it was a dangerous crime scene? For several seconds, you can see on the video, an officer following Terrence from behind with a gun aimed at him. Then more officers converge on the scene as Crutcher lowers his hand and approaches his SUV, and then he suddenly drops to the street. Why?

Because he was tased and then shot for nothing. All right? You're not going to tell me we live in a country where a man can plant 10 bombs in New York and New Jersey, have a shootout with police, and still get taken into custody alive, okay? That a man on the side of the road, because his car stalled approaching his SUV with his arms raised, gets shot and killed. That makes absolutely no sense. I hate

the fact he had his arms up because he wasn't committing a crime. But when you're a black man in America, this is the type of precautions we have to take when approached by the police and we still get killed for it. Can we play some of the video footage released on Monday, please? This guy's still walking and following commands.

Not for taser, I think. I've got a feeling that's about to happen. That looks like a bad dude, too, to be honest with you. I think he may have just been tasered. Shots fired! We have one suspect down. We need to end this here. All right. Tyler Turnbaugh tased him, and Betty Shelby shot and killed him.

Betty said he wasn't cooperating. Actually, you police officers were the ones not cooperating because the man's car was stalled on the side of the road. He needed help. He needed y'all to cooperate with him and serve the way your motto claims it does. Okay, he looks like a bad dude. Why? Because he was big and black.

I don't see anything else about this situation that would make officers think he was a bad dude. Why? Because he was big and black? I don't see anything else about this situation that would make officers think he was a bad dude. Okay, this is the epitome of profiling, the epitome of prejudice, prejudging someone based off all these false narratives of blackness you have in your mind. Don't talk to me about Colin Kaepernick kneeling anymore, okay? This is exactly why I would rather have someone stand for people than stand for a flag. I don't care about people not standing for the flag. I care about other fellow Americans being unjustly killed by the police. I want to be specific and say black Americans.

But when you put that word black in the sentence, some people don't hear us. They just don't, okay? Same when they see blackness, they don't see another human being. They don't see a father, a husband, a brother, uncle. All they see is a big bad dude. Okay, like I've been saying, and I will continue to repeat, if all you people in positions

of power who have voices, who are upset and speaking out about people not standing for the flag, if you are as outraged over police killing unarmed Americans as you are over people not standing for the flag, we would have a much better state of affairs in this country. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fanatic.

As a Dallas Cowboy fanatic, I'm numb to losing. Losing does nothing to me anymore. Winning is the only thing that surprises me about my Cowboys nowadays. And that's exactly how I feel about unarmed black people getting killed at the hands of the police. Because this woman, Betty Shelby, has been placed on paid administrative leave. She probably won't be charged. The family is going to get a settlement. Terrence will still be dead, and we'll be back here in a couple weeks talking about the latest police shooting of an unarmed black man in America

that was captured on video. I can guarantee it. And if you watch this video of Terrence Crutcher getting shot and killed by police for absolutely no reason, no weapons, no gun in the car, literally on the side of the road. Hands up in the air. No gun in the car. Literally on the side of the road. Hands up in the air. Hands up in the air. Literally on the side of the road with his stalled car.

And gets treated like a violent criminal. If you watch this video of this man dying on the ground, but you are more outraged over watching videos of people not standing for the flag, then you are absolutely part of the problem. And you just don't get it. Nor do you believe in equality and justice like you claim. Please give officers Betty Shelby and Tyler Turnbile the biggest hee-haw, please.

This is disgusting, man. I hate talking about this. Same conversation. I mean, I don't even know what else to say. I hate having this conversation as well. It's the same exhausting. Well, let's see the outrage by our patriotic American citizens. Exactly.

It's the same. This is disgusting, man. Same exhausting conversation that we keep having over and over and over. And then when you have people who actually try to bring awareness to the situation, like Colin Kaepernick and other people protesting, you know, by not standing for the flag, they'd rather talk about them not standing for the flag instead of talking about the actual issue. Well, let's open up the phone lines. This is the actual issue, ladies and gentlemen.

800-585-1051. My fellow Americans. Steve Wilkos was here earlier, and he made some comments about police, untrained police. Let's hear it real fast. Never had my gun pointed at somebody that didn't even have a weapon. You got to be ready to fight. I think you have shootings because you got people that have no business

being a police officer. No experience using force in their own personal life. Like, I'm sure you've been in a fist fight in your life, right? You're willing to defend yourself. You got these guys or women that have never used force in their life, and now the only way they're gonna use force is with a

gun. You know, the stands have been lowered that you got people that have no business being a police. Oh, Betty Shelby was absolutely shook. I mean, you think about it, that you got people that have no business being a police. Oh, Betty Shelby was absolutely shook. I mean, you think about it, if you got the guy in the helicopter saying he's a big, bad-looking dude, imagine how she felt on the ground. She wasn't by herself, though. And she's a woman.

I'm with you, man. She had five other officers with her. I'm with you, bro, bro. And you know, and that gun makes people feel like they have a lot of power. And I felt victim to that when I was in Virginia and I was able to get a licensed gun. And you had that gun in your car. And if you got into a problem, it made you feel bigger than what you were. Let's open up the phone lines.

800-585-1051. Should cops be required to have combat training? Combat training? Combat training. They got to know how to fight. They see an incident with an officer, not just pull out a gun and shoot. Combat training? Combat training. They got to know how to fight. They see an incident with an officer, not just pull out a gun and shoot. Combat training. Being able to fight and put somebody down.

Could it be that they're too scared? Instead of always using a weapon? Or too soft? So the first thing that they do is grab their weapon? I agree, though. Somebody has their hands up in the air and no weapon. I don't understand why you even have your weapon out. I'm not going to lie.

I'll take 100 Rodney Kings before I take, you know, one situation like this. All right. I'd rather be talking to a brother about getting beat up by 10 cops than, you know, hashtagging a brother's name because he got shot and killed. As crazy as that may sound. 585-1051. Should cops be required to have combat training? Could it be that a lot of the police officers are too scared

or just too soft and use their weapon as the first defense? 800-585-1051. If you have kids out there, too, just a side note, your kids should have combat training, whether it's karate, whether it's boxing, whether it's some type of way so they know how to protect themselves. But what if we got to protect ourselves from the police? We should have some kind of

combat training. How do we protect ourselves from the police? That's what I want. I ain't got all the answers, y'all know me. I ain't got none. Me neither. I'm going to be honest. I have zero, zilch, nada. I don't know what to do at this point. This is getting disturbing, though. Okay. I was thinking last night when I was driving at

11 o'clock at night, I was like, you know what? I think I might just start taking a car service everywhere. But I can't afford it. You can't afford it. But I was telling you yesterday, you know, leaving the club last night, I'm more concerned with the police than the Jackboys. I don't even want to drive.

You know why? Because you can defend yourself against the Jackboys. How do you defend yourself against the police? You can't. Yeah, I can't. 800-585-1051. I mean, you can, but you're going to get killed or go to jail forever. Call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

That was Khaled for free. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne gave donkey of the day to the two officers that killed Terrence Crutcher. Officer Tyler Turnbow and Betty Shelby

of the Tulsa Police Department. If you haven't heard, Terrence was on the side of the road. His vehicle was stalled. He had no weapons, no nothing, wasn't committing any crimes. Police pulled up on the scene. Instead of helping this brother, this brother ended up getting tased and shot once for no reason.

Had his hands in the air, wasn't being aggressive, wasn't trying to attack nobody, nothing. Now he's dead. So the question we're asking, 800-585-1051. We're talking about police and their training. Like, should they have combat training? Somebody just said on Instagram to me, you know, to be a doctor, it takes, what, four years?

You need four years of med school? To be a lawyer, it takes, what, four years? You need four years of med school? To be a lawyer, it takes, what, eight years? But to be a cop, it could take, what, six months to be a cop? I think you need more medical school than that, don't you, to be a doctor? It's four and four. Okay. Four and four. But for a cop, it takes six months?

I figured it out. I was thinking about this because I had no answers like 10 minutes ago, but I figured it out. And what made me figure it out, when you asked the question, what was the question? Do police need combat training? Yes. No, police don't need combat training. Police need black people training. All cops should have to take an African American studies class.

They should have to go hang out in predominantly black communities without a weapon when they are in the academy. If you have never been around black people, you have to log a certain amount of hours with black people before you can be a police officer. Without a weapon. Yeah, I said without a weapon. I think that works. Be in the community.

Go hang out. When you're in the academy, you should have to go hang out in predominantly black communities without a weapon. And you gotta go take an African American studies class at a black college. You have to. They have to make cops have some type of training with minorities. Because there's no reason

for you to look at a black person and say, he looks like a bad dude. This guy wasn't doing nothing. He had a white t-shirt on, hands up in the air, standing outside his star vehicle. Why does that man look like a bad dude to you? You know why? Because you haven't been around enough black people in your goddamn life. And I've always said that I feel like cops that are working in certain neighborhoods

and areas, no matter where you're working, you should have to do some type of community service, something where you're out amongst the people in a way that's not a threatening manner, where it's not you coming to them because they've done something wrong or them being frightened of you, but you're working alongside people in the community so that you know who they are, they know who you are, there's some type of familiarity. Copy B-P-T. Black people training. Now you do, yep.

That's it. To be there without weapons and just learn the community, see the community, get comfortable with the community. Realize that these are people. Right. Some of y'all don't know how to act around Negroes. That's just all it boils down to. Y'all have not had enough communication, enough association with Negroes. That's why we look big and bad to y'all.

Hello? Who's this? This is Telos Moore. What's up, bro? We're talking about combat training. What do you think, man? I think it should definitely be done, and I think it should be done by the military.

I think that, you know, they have training, and they should be required to basically retest in regards to whatever training that they already got. Combat training is not going to make them more comfortable around black people. If you ain't got combat training, all it's going to do is have them beating up black people now. But it will stop the shooting because the first option won't be to pull out your gun and shoot.

This is the problem, and I'm with you, but this is the problem. What? We are so tired of getting shot and killed. That we'd rather get beat up? That we'd rather just get beat up. But it's all a violation of constitutional rights. Right.

These white people in these positions of power who have never dealt with black people need black people training. Period. That's what police officers need. Hello, who's this? This is Shalai from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, Mama. We're talking about should cops be required to have combat training? I'm assuming you're black, Shalai.

I certainly am. I'm happily that way. Yes. I absolutely believe that they should have combat training, but I also believe that there's something wrong with the testing that they're administering because too many of them are falling through the cracks, so to speak. So what I've seen from my own personal experience, they tend to have very aggressive natures, and so they act out when anything encroaches upon them that they feel challenges them. Then you also have those who are fearful. And just as the gentleman said this morning, they never should have been administered a badge at all. That was Bryson Tiller with Exchange.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne gave donkey of the day earlier. To who, Charlamagne? Officer Tyler Turnbaugh and Betty Shelby. Tyler Turnbaugh, Taze, Terrence Crutcher, and Betty Shelby shot him. Both of them were at Tulsa Police Department.

Terrence wasn't doing anything. His car was thawed on the side of the road. And he was just simply outside of his car looking for some assistance. Now this young man is dead. Forty-year-old man, father of four kids, dead. The police officer said that—can we play the audio? Play the clip real quick. This guy's still walking and following commands. Not for taser, I think.

That's got a feeling that's about to happen. That looks like a bad dude, too. To be honest with I don't know. I think he may have just been tasered. Shots fired. Boom. 321, we have shots fired. We have one suspect down.

We need to enter here. Looks like a bad dude. Why? All right. Well, 800-585-1051. We're asking, do the police need combat training? Hello, who's this? How you doing?

It's Shazette. Hey, Shazette. Do you think the police need combat training? Hello, who's this? How you doing? It's Shazette. Hey, Shazette. You think the police need combat training? Police definitely need combat training. Simply think, a lawyer has to go through six-plus years of education just to practice law. Why does a police officer only go through six months of training to carry a gun? I agree with you. It's not equivalent, and it's not right.

I'm surprised that I'm still saddened by situations with you. It's not equivalent, and it's not right. I'm surprised that I'm still standing by situations like this. It's crazy. I'm numb to it, baby. They need combat training, but I'm going to keep saying this until I'm blue in faith. They need black people training, man. They need combat training as well. Hello, who's this? This is Jasmine.

Hey, Jasmine, we're talking about police and combat training. What do you think? I think they need it because there's too many clowns or whatever you want to call them, power rangers, wannabes, whatever you want to call them. Power rangers. That's unprotected. I mean, they're not untrained.

They're just killing people for nothing. I believe in the video. He's a bachelorser and everything. So what, now you're going to kill somebody for tying their shoe too? It makes no sense. Oh, that's coming. Trust me. We're going to definitely get somebody's name hashtagged because they was tying

their shoe. Hello, who's this? Hey, yo, what up, though? What's up, bro? We're talking about police and should they have combat training? No, no, no. Should you not get shot by the police? Wear a suit. I ain't never seen

nobody get shot in a suit on all these videos of people getting shot. Hey, I'm going to tell you something, man. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. got shot in a suit. I ain't never seen nobody get shot in a suit on all these videos of people getting shot. Hey, I'm going to tell you something, man. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. got shot in a suit. Shut the hell up. It's a suit. I don't think that wearing a suit is going to stop people from shooting. What do you mean he was a suit?

He got shot. He got shot. He got shot. All right, well. You going to listen to the white man? The white man told you that. You repeating the white man. The white man with the camera in his hand.

And what did I say? I said. Yeah, you thought about it. The white man with the camera in his hand. And what did I say? I said... Yeah, you thought about it. Shut up, Steve. I don't care. It was prejudice. Okay? It was racism.

Okay? It was the fear of Martin Luther King Jr.'s blackness that got him shot. And that's what's getting all of these young men shot, too. Stop it. And you shouldn't be able to tell me I can't dress how I want to dress. If I'm going to the gym, if I'm doing something, I shouldn't have to wear a suit. Word. The moral of the story is, yes, they need combat training, but they need BPT, black people training.

They need to know how to deal with black people because some of these officers simply don't. Yes, they need psychological evaluations, but they need a Negro evaluation as well. They need to be sitting in a classroom and somebody needs to hold up a picture of Lil Wayne and says, does this offend you? If it offends them for absolutely no reason, then they can't be police officers yet. Until you pass a proper Negro evaluation, until you get that gold

star for black people training, you cannot be a police officer. Let me ask you a question. A picture called Act Black, does that offend you? No, it doesn't offend me because I understand them little Negroes. Does it scare me? No, it doesn't offend me because I understand them little Negroes. Does it scare me? Yes. Okay?

But that's because I understand that I come from that world. Imagine if you don't come from that world. Imagine what Kodak Black look like to you. And I'm sure people know the correct answer to say if they want to be a police officer. That doesn't mean that's really how they feel. Hey, man, if you want to be a police officer, you have to take African American Studies class at a black school. Hampton. You should have to go hang out in predominantly black communities without a weapon when you're in the academy.

If you've never been around black people, you have to log a certain amount of hours with black people before you should be able to be a police officer. All right. BPT, black people training. That's what these cops really need. We got rumors coming up. Well, let's talk about Kodak Black. We'll tell you what he's been sentenced to. And we'll also talk about Lil Wayne.

He's upset at Birdman for yet another reason. We'll tell you what Birdman has done now that made him mad. All right. All that and more. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela Yee.

It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Well, Kodak Black was sentenced yesterday in one of his cases. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanor drug charges. So he was given a 120-day sentence, okay? They're going to actually shorten that time for time already served in jail. And he's also getting a one-year driver's license suspension and court costs of $300. Now, he's also facing a sexual

battery charge in South Carolina. They don't know what's going to happen with that yet, but that's the next thing that he is facing. So he'll be alright. He's got four months. No need to yell free Kodak Black. He's got time, sir, but he's just got to fight South Carolina now. Well, the only thing is

he does face that sexual battery charge and that carries a sentence of up to 30 years. So that's the next thing that he has to deal with. I ain't gonna yell free him yet then because I don't know what he did quite right. Y'all gotta stop doing that to just yelling free people when you don't really know what they did. Right, so everything is alleged right

now. Alright, now are you guys excited for this Michelle A. biopic that's about to come out, Surviving Compton? Nope. Explain to the people who you think Michelle A. is. If's about to come out, Surviving Compton. Nope. Dre and Suge and Michelle. What? Explain to the people who keep being surprised. I mean, if I was excited,

I'd say nope. Well, that show is going to come on October 15th on Lifetime. Michelle A. was signed to Death Row. She was a singer that was signed to Death Row. She also dated both Dr. Dre and Suge Knight.

And she had a high-pitched voice like this. Didn't she have a baby from both of them too? We have a trailer from that. Listen. Michelle A. What?

Oh, that's my name. Are you kidding me? This chick sound like Minnie Mouse. You say you love me, and I think that is true. So I'm guessing that makes me end up you, ain't it? I gave you this track a week ago. Where is it? It can't work like this, Dre.

You sing it like you feel it, I'm going to kick your ass. Don't trade your freedom for security. Mad people grandma got hype when they heard that. You think that you love me? And I think that is true. In the trailer, they show Dr. Dre who is choking her and everything. So she does say that before she and Dre broke up, she was subject to horrible physical abuse.

And she also said she has not yet seen Straight Outta Compton or anything like that. When did it air? October 15th. October 15th. Set a date with Grandma. Sit down and watch the Lifetime movie. I mean, if you cared about Straight Outta Compton,

this was all around the same era. It didn't really matter. If you would care about that. All right. Now, let us discuss Lil Wayne. He is upset at Birdman for another reason. Apparently, he doesn't like the fact that Birdman let Tyga go. As we all know, Tyga has now signed on with Good Music.

And, you know, Lil Wayne is the one that signed Tyga, so he's upset that Birdman would cut him loose. And he didn't even need Lil Wayne's signature to do so. He feels like he should have been there and should have signed off on that. So Tiger's fully released. Yeah, he's released. Wow. I don't think Birdman let— He said he would have vetoed that.

Birdman ain't let Tiger go, though. Tiger wanted to leave. Yeah, but he had to sign the papers. Not like Tiger got waived. Birdman still got to sign the papers. Yeah, Birdman signed the papers. Little Wayne did not, and he feels like his signature should have been necessary as well in order to release him. And he probably would not have released Tiger because Tiger has put out some songs.

Lil Wayne is letting me know that he's a terrible businessman. He has no idea what's going on. His lawyers. There's no way his lawyers should allow all this to happen. Maybe he thought Tiger was his artist all these years, but Tiger really wasn't. Because if your signature wasn't required, sir, that means that on paper that was not your artist. Right. All right.

Well, that is your report. I'm Angela Yee. All right. Thank you, Miss. Oh, Wayne, man. That Lifetime movie is going to be popping. Hopefully it's bigger than the Lifetime movie. I thought you didn't want to see it.

I'll watch a Wayne Lifetime movie. Oh, I thought you meant Michelle A. All right. When we come back. You think Lil Wayne would just get a Lifetime movie? No, I'd be bigger than that. I think he would deserve bigger than a Lifetime movie. I would definitely be bigger than that. Definitely, Michelle A. All right. When we come back... You think Lil Wayne would just get a Lifetime movie? No, I'd be bigger than that. I think he would deserve bigger than a Lifetime movie.

I would definitely be bigger than that. Definitely bigger than that. It depends what happens in the future. I mean, nothing against Lifetime, but... Listen, Wayne is absolutely... Lil Wayne.

He's absolutely a goat. He's absolutely a legend, but it's all about how... Come on. It's all about the ending. You know what I mean? No, it's not. Yes, it is.

He's done enough already from when he was at... Absolutely. Yes, he has. Listen, everybody... somebody has to die. Let's be clear. Let's shut up. He doesn't have to die.

I didn't say him. I said somebody has to die. It has to be a tragic situation. All of these biopics have a death in them. Every single one. It doesn't have to. You got to. It got to be something tragic.

They don't give you no biopic when you just live a happily ever after life. Or maybe we need to start. You got to die. You got to die or it got to be something traumatic. Either you got to die, somebody Or maybe we need to start. You gotta die. You gotta die or it gotta be something traumatic. Either you gotta die, somebody close to you gotta die, or it gotta be something

very traumatic to happen in your life. You think Tina Turner would've got a biopic if she wasn't getting beat up all those years? Ray Charles was strung out on drugs. Biggie, shot and killed.

Pac, shot and killed. Eazy-E died of AIDS. Wayne losing all his money. That's a tragedy. No, that pales in comparison to the tragedies I just named Losing his dad You see, Envy is the most superficial

I named five hardcore tragedies And he said Losing all your money Yes Yeah, but not just that But also from somebody That you looked at As your father figure

Light work Compared to what I just named I named domestic violence AIDS And two homicides Homicides You know what I meant It's homicides. Homicides. Homicides. You know what I meant.

It's homicides. You know what? I'm not talking to y'all. Good. We're not talking to you back. You're not talking to us because you can't pronounce homicides. I'm not talking to y'all because y'all are silly. Shout out to Revolt.

Revolt will see you guys tomorrow. All right. People's Choice Mix is up next. You want to hear something? 800-585-1051. We'll go straight to it. All right. It's The Breakfast Club.

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