The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - 6lack, Black Mother’s Wound Podcast, Jake Seinfeld interview

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Best of 2026 - 6lack, Black Mother’s Wound Podcast, Jake Seinfeld interview. Callers Talks Men Going to Chris Brown Concert. Recorded 2026. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tell him his name, man. But, yeah, Black will be here. His new album, Love is the New Gangster. We're going to be talking to him. And also from the Black Mother Wound podcast, man, Ms. Jennifer Arnese will be here. Jennifer Arnese from the Black Mother Wound podcast will be joining us.

She is a spiritual life coach for heart-centered women. She won the Black Effect Picture Podcast Festival a couple of years ago, and we launched her podcast, The Black Mother Woon. We've been having a lot of conversations up here about father wounds and mother wounds. We had your baby father Rome up here. Yeah, absolutely, yes.

He still needs some help with that. He has a mother wound. So Jennifer, we'll be here to discuss mother wounds this morning. That's right. And our guy, Jake Steinfeld, will be joining us today as well. He's launched Body by Jake Radio with IHeart. So he'll be joining us this morning, too. All right.

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This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. I've got an indoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We live! Hello, who's this?

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What's happening? Get it off your chest. Yeah, man, I got a few things I want to say to y'all. First of, I love the breakfast club. I've been listening for about five years. Thank you, sir. Five six years since COVID. Thank you.

And I love what y'all do for community. Thank you, brother. Second thing is, Spotify. Y'all got to tell them about editing, man. We can't hear no music. What you mean, no music? Yeah. And where are you listening?

He says Spotify. I listen to Spotify. I listen to y'all on Spotify. You listen to the podcast on Spotify? You listen to the... Yeah. Yeah, the podcast don't have music. Yeah, the podcast don't have music or commercials, brother.

Okay, cool. Well, at least can y'all tell them on Friday. Let us hear the new music knowledge we put now. Oh, okay, that's a good thing. But I think that it's licensing things with that. Yeah, I think that's the problem. Yeah, licensing. But you can listen on, I think it's on Netflix, ain't it?

But you can also listen to the titles of the songs that Nile was posting and then go look them up yourself on Spotify. That's true. Good point, Shalda, man. Yes, sir. It's just about introducing to new music. All right. The last thing, though, this is very important, though. Yesterday, we have my youngest daughter, Ribbon Penn.

She's 14 about to graduate eighth grade, man. And this kid has been getting straight A since first grade. And yesterday, she was awarded a valedictorian, man. Wow. I want to give a shout out to her. I know how proud I am, my husband. You know what I'm saying? What's her name?

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Y'all help me out a lot with, you know, different things that I be listening to, especially the interviews y'all be having. And just, man, keep going, bro. Thank you, thank you so much, I appreciate you. I tell you one thing, it ain't nothing like watching your kids achieve things, boy. Yeah, dang. Lord have mercy. Hello, who's this?

Hey, it's stane, man. I'm falling out of Phoenix. What's up, brother? What's up, brother? Hey, man, I took it so light on that Michael Jackie movie. That movie wasn't no good, man. Michael Jackie. You mean Michael, the movie?

That's why you ain't like it because you saw it on Tubby. You saw the Michael Jackie. You saw the Michael Jackie movie on Tube and you didn't like it. We ain't see Michael Jackie. We saw Michael. I see Michael Jackie. Hey, I'm going to talk about the Nemesis, too. All he shows is misrepresenting black people.

Well, what you didn't like about this? nemesis because, you know, some people loved it. They loved the plot. All they say is he can't act. I don't think they misrepresenting black. Some people just feel like he can't act. It ain't the acting. I'm worried about more like they just keep portraying black people robbing each other, killing each other. Like, it ain't, it ain't no

other scripts in the world to be pulling from. You know what I mean? Like, this story's about Marcus Garvey. I ain't never seen a Marcus Garvey movie movie, but I tell my sons about him all the time. Hey, you want to know a good movie? Hey, you want to know a good movie to take your son to? Go take him to see one spoon of chocolate, man. Man, I keep telling y'all,

who wants to have chocolate. Man, I'm going to listen. I'm going to tell you about that movie. I'm going to tell you about that movie. They play that movie one time at 1015 at a movie theater. I ain't never heard of it. Damn. You know what I'm not.

Bro, that is the movie. If you want your son to see a movie that's like revolutionary and black people doing some revolutionary things, one spoon of chocolate. I got you. Hey, I'm chocolate, man. I got one more. I got an idea for y'all, too.

Like, y'all on Netflix. No, we don't. You don't. You don't be doing, like, movies. Not on it, but you're in y'all. Y'all are on it. Oh, okay. Yeah.

So, y'all should be doing, like, movie reviews. You know, like, just to be watching movies, she can just tell the movie about the movie, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's not there. That's not there. Yeah. Because, look, they don't have that Roger and Iber no more.

Y'all can be the black, you know, Roger Eber. Oh. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. My name's, like, I got a lot of ideas. I'm a program director myself, but. Oh, dope.

Okay, shout out the year. Where at? What station? No, no. I got a mental health agency. Oh, you do. You got a mental health agency. He's a program director for mental health agency.

You know, I got my, I'm doing my mental wealth expo again this year, man. On October 10th, World Mental Health Day in Newark, New Jersey. Where's it at? In Newark, New York, New Jersey, at the Joe and Diane Bloom Community Center. All right. Man, I got a shout out on my wife, too. I could have did that, like, first. Go ahead.

Yeah, you should have did that first. Go ahead, brother. Shout her out. Shout out to Denise Griffin, man. She a realtor out of Phoenix. Been with her 16 years. You know, we're going to be with her forever. But, like, how y'all been doing?

We've been through everything that y'all been through. Yeah. I love Phoenix, man. Phoenix is a great place. Have a good one, brother. Phoenix and Scottsdale is a great place for your mental health. Like, if you're a person that you know, you want to unplug for a minute and disconnect and you don't want to go that far, Phoenix Scottsdale is a great area, man.

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Yes, let's talk about it because nobody respects it up here. Right. Charlemagne, we need the gay jokes. Oh, you want to build a pass? Yes, yes. No, I don't want it to pass. I miss the gay joke. Ma'am, you don't listen to the show.

This guy has a gay joke for me every morning, ma'am. That is not true. No, no, Envy is just gay. No, I respect his identity. Charlemae, it used to be so funny. He used to come so hard at Envy. It was hilarious. Say, false.

Say pause. Say pause. I never directed any type of come towards envy, ma'am. It wasn't hard in any way. Ma'am, yesterday I'm walking in the hall and this guy goes nice print in your gray sweatpants. I just say that. It doesn't stop. That didn't happen.

He got to go too far. That didn't happen, man. That didn't happen. But we'll need that on the air. We'll try. No, we won't. Thank you so much, man. Wait, can I shout out my business?

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It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ. M.V. Jess. hilarious. Shalamey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about a meme that was kind of viral. That was all over social media the last couple of days. And the question was, as a man, why are you going to the Chris Brown and Usher concert? Now, you know, I was born in 1977. So I saw that meme. And the first thing I thought was I would be going to the Chris Brown and Usher concert

if I was a man because I was a man, because I know all the women are going to be there. Yes. And to me, that was just logic, right? But then, N.B. You bought up a good point. You said, well, a lot of this generation don't like girls. Correct. Right. And I see it all the time.

When I DJ, I see guys dancing with each other, like guys being in a section with each other. And our generation was a- DJ in the gay parties. So that makes sense. I do not DJ any gay parties. I don't have a problem with it. That's what money, money, money. Because the gay got the money, honey.

It don't matter. But what's the section in the gay club? The VIPP? Hey, y'all. Table 69. is the one. But I would say that you would see, you know, guys and girls dancing together when I used to DJ. Now it's more

split. You see girls in a section by themselves. And you see fellas in the section. It's the weirdest thing but it ain't got nothing to me. It's not weird. Yes, it is. It's not weird. Because it used to be intermingling. It used to be like the guys with the girls. And you know, and that was with gay people and straight people. Everybody just used to congregate together. Correct. Yeah. It's not

weird. It's just different. Because you're used to seeing something else in a different era. Like people don't like to talk to each other? They don't like to talk to each other? They don't like to dance with each other. Everybody be on their phones and little huddles. It's like, y'all, y'all could have did this in the basement. Correct. So, to me, like I said, to me, when I look at the meme, it was very cut and dry.

Right? To me, I'm just like, yo, you go to the Usher Chris Brown concert because you know all of the girls are going to be there as a man. But it might be something different in this generation. But you can also be a fan of their music as a man. What do you mean? That's true. Yeah, but if I'm not going by myself. Like, I'm taking my wife.

Like, I'm not going to be. Yo, Sean, what you're doing on Friday? Let's go see usher. No, no. Yeah. Not only are you taking your wife. your boo. Yeah.

Your boo might be another man. You know what I'm saying? We're in a different area. You're taking your boots to go see Usher and Chris Brown. Okay.

But let's go to the phone lines. 800, 585-105-1. Who do you have on line? This is Mr. BMD. 2024. How you feeling?

DJ Envy. What's up, your name got too much going on, bro. Shut up. Mr. BMD. 204. Mr. BMD,

it stands for brothers making dollars, y'allelam. I got five books waiting for you, Charlemagne. I'm calling to say that I'm from Baltimore, Jess,

I got videos with me and you, but I'm calling to say that I'm doing what. Yeah, videos doing what? No, no,

when she first started her in little Rome, her and Rome was in it, you feel me with you? Oh, okay. Her little man had his little puppy, Almond,

Domain. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I appreciate it. I'm calling to say that I would definitely go see Usher and Chris Brown

as a grown man just for the women, you know. and make sure that everybody had fun, man I said Chris Brown we grew up off of that Right

Yeah The music is jamming And all the women gonna be there That's why I couldn't even Understand why that dude Was trying to shame People would that mean

As a man What would you be going To an usher Chris Brown show for Because all the women gonna be there That's crazy Hello who's this Mills from Brooklyn

May I go Hey I go Good morning You know we're talking about The Lord I actually got through Talk to us What's your thoughts

Brother All right First of all I want to start by saying, I'm a married man with four kids. My wife is coming with me to the concert. Word. I go to every concert, so there's nothing wrong with it. But I got a question, though.

What's that? What's the difference between us men going to the concert and men going to watch basketball games? By ourselves or without wives? Regardless to the fact, yeah, I believe you buy yourself for not. You see them and watch your music. I can tell you why, because when they hear Usher and Chris Brown's music, they think love songs and romantic.

And so they think we, they think, for whatever reason, they think men don't have that side to them. Right. I'm 36 years old Usher Chris Brown and Trace Stone, they don't pave my way You know what, though? I mean, why not going to watch it?

You know what? You kind of right, I'm going to tell you why. Because when New Edition was performing in New Orleans, gear was with me and I went. You mean, you was giving it up, singing every song. I did. Clutching your pearls. I did. But it's new audition. They dance and they Exactly. So I guess, yeah.

If you like the music, you can go. That's right. Yeah. It's not a big. It's not a big deal at all. When Chris Browns and Madison Square Guard in Connecticut last year, I went both times by myself. Okay. Oh, that's what's up. Exactly. It's a vibe. It is. And I get what he's saying.

My wife helped me get my tickets. He helped me get my hotel. The shit already knew. But the concert is gone up. Your wife sent you by yourself? Yes. He's a fan. He's a fan. He's a Chris Brown fan. And he's saying if y'all can watch... I'm too old to say I'm a fan. Are you a fan?

Yeah. You're a fan. Y'all want to go to basketball games and watch sweaty, put the holes in the hole and fall all on each other and all that? I'm going to ask you a question. And you know God watching you, but I also know black men don't cheat. Did your side chick meet you down there? Oh my God, oh my God.

I don't have no side chick. I'm not in the side chick. I've been married for too long for that. Legend. Exactly. You're a legend, my brother. Can I ask you a question? Why your wife didn't go with you?

She had the kids. He said why your wife didn't go with you to Connecticut. Yeah. She went to her family with me, but she was a question. She don't like crowds and all up. I get it. Yeah, sure. All right.

You don't like crowds. Mm-mm. That's not weird to y'all that your wife send you to the Usher concert? No, not if you want to go. No. By yourself? If he wanted to go, why can't he go by itself? Why?

That don't feel weird to nobody? No, they don't. It's a little unusual, but it's like it's not. Why don't your wife goes? Like, I'm coming. Let's both. She says she don't like crowds. She didn't want to go.

There's nothing wrong with doing things by yourself. There's people that go to movies by their self. They go eat food by themselves. They go to contrast by themselves. What's wrong with that? I'm not. I'm just not going to concert by myself. By myself, who am I talking to while I'm singing?

You in there with 20,000 other people singing the same song, you dumb ass? I'm sick of you this morning. Stop the same. Hey, yo. Yeah, would like, would I go see Hove by myself? No. I definitely would. Yes.

Yes, she would. No, I'm not. Somebody got to come with me. Why? I don't know. So we can talk. Did you like that song? Girl, I bet he's about to do this.

Like, you want to narrow. You know, every hundred, five, five, introduce myself. Now, if you're just joining us, we're asking 800-585-105-1 as a man. They were asking, why are you going to the Chris Brown and Usher concert? Myself? I mean, I'm taking my wife. I'm taking my daughters.

I'm taking my family because they want to see it. Yeah, whoever made that meme thought that they ate with that meme, but that meme is so corny. And the reason is so corny because as soon as I saw that as a man, why would you be going to the Usher, Chris Brown concert? Number one, I could like the music. Number two, that's where all the women are going to be at. You know what I mean? But as you pointed out, NB, there's a lot of people in this generation who don't like women. Correct.

So to them, that meme might make sense. Right. We have Sasha on the line. Sasha, good morning. Good morning. How are you feeling, Sasha? I feel very well. How about yourself?

I'm good. Now, did you see the meme? Well, you probably, I don't know if you seen the meme or not. And they were asking, as a man, why would you go to a Chris Bound at Usher concert? What are your thoughts on it? I think. You could go for whatever reason. with today's generation, the younger ones, you know,

and let you say one of your 47, there's just so much going on with both of them. I just think they're going because, one, all the girls are there, and two, all the guys are there also. So I said it's like a tricexual or A, B, and C. They're going there to see what they can see, you know? You sound like our good friend Emma Greed. I thought she was about to say,

Actually, I think everyone should watch the concert from home. Okay. You won't enjoy the experience if you don't watch it from home. No, no, no. I think you should go there and it's just everything's happening today with sexuality. So they're going to see. You have two gentlemen there that are both pretty woozy and wuzzy. I think what you're simply saying is if you like people and you like to socialize,

Usher and Chris Brown concert is a great place to be. because if they come to your city, that's probably going to be the only thing moving in town that night. That's what she said. Hello, who's this? What's going on? It's Jake from Baltimore.

Hey, Jay, what's up? Talk to us. What's your thoughts, brother? Yeah, I'm definitely going to the concert, eh. Might go to Atlanta. Might go to the one in New York. Might go to one in Houston.

But I'm going to one of them concerts, me. You going by yourself? Absolutely. I don't see a problem with it. But why? Yeah, there's going to be plenty of women there. What do you mean?

Why? Plenty of women are going to be there. I'm leaving here with something. That's what I said Okay, I'm glad to know that there's still a lot of people Who just had the same mindset I had And when I saw the meme That's the first thing I thought

I want to be with all the women are You remember I used to promote parties back in the day, right? You want a bunch of women at the party You were more women than guys That's why I used to let girls in free before 11 Let girls in free before 11 Because if you got a bunch of girls in there The guys are going to pay whatever

They ain't paying whatever to see all them ladies Absolutely hello who's this That's lucky Lucky what's up talk to us Lucky Man I will go to of Chris Brown concert by myself,

but I have other stipulations of this situation because of my daughter and my wife is huge Chris Brown fans. What's the stipulations? I'm going to think Chris Brown's friend too because, you know,

he's from my era. I grew up watching them and everything, but yeah, otherwise, I would just go to take my wife and my daughter, but just going by myself,

I probably would go But to save me a couple of dollars I may as well take my ass to work man Okay But I will say this though And I thought about it when I'm talking out loud I thought about it But New Edition was performing the New Orleans bro

And me and my manager was out there working And I said you I want to go see new audition And I went And I didn't have my wife with me And I ain't feel funny Because I was singing all the songs So I can't even say that Yeah that's true indeed

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it. one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,

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We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery, and a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and

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What's the moral of the story? And by the way, just ran to the bathroom. She had a little diarrhea. The moral of the story is, man, stop trying to shame people for no goddamn reason. Asking dumb-ass questions, as a grown man, why would you go to an usher and Chris Brown concert? Actually, asking that question says more about you than it does about the people who are, one, secure enough to go. by themselves as men if they want to and two, going by their self

because they know all the ladies going to be there. I want to know why your punk ass don't want to be where all the women at. How about that? All right. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning everybody is DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. Long LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

Yes, indeed. You got the brother black. How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I've always been interested about your name. Okay. Like, why is it spelled with a six and not a beat? A recurring number in my life,

favorite number, life path number, born in June. I grew up in Zone 6. So it was like, favorite number, my uniform growing up when I was going outside

was all black. So I just kind of put it together. I had the same name since middle school. You was young, which was cancer? Yeah. Oh, me too. Oh, don't.

What's the born day? Let me guess. Let me guess. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. June 24. 60. Oh.

Wow. Yes. You lying. He Googled. That's my question. What made you guess that? By the fiber of the music. I'm a cancer.

I get it. I can tell whether somebody's a July cancer, a June cancer, around my day, which is June 29th. So I just was factory. I was like, okay, this is. That is so crazy. I believe you. I don't.

And you always say you clairvoyant, Avon. That's right. Yes. Is it more emotions in the little thing? Later June Kinters? Very much a lot. I don't really know what the difference between June and July. I can just tell.

Yeah, I will say I think June can'ters are a little more emotionally intelligent. Personally. That's what I think. Okay. Well, let's start from the beginning, if you don't mind. I just want to know how you got into music. You're originally from Merlin, Baltimore. Baltimore.

You got right out of there. That's right. Got right out of there. And so what got you into music? My dad is a rapper, was a rapper. So my first introduction to music was him just being in the studio. What was his rap name? Rick Flo.

Ricardo Flo, FLO. From Baltimore? Yep, from Baltimore. You know him from Baltimore? No, and I don't like how you say you got right out of there, too. Like, he was there for a little bit, you know what I mean? You know, D.C. area. It wasn't in my time.

But he wasn't like on the regular Baltimore rap scene. He kind of grew into Christian rap. So I watched him just development that way. But my inspiration from it, I felt like, was a little more self-sufficient. Like, at the point where, you know, they separated my mom and my dad. I spent a lot of time on my room, a lot of time on a computer. And it just kind of grew from poetry in elementary school to battle rap and middle school

to song writing in high school, and then, yeah, it just kept on. Was the separation what made you, you say you stayed in your room by yourself a lot? Was that separation put a lot on? No, I didn't care that much. Damn. I didn't care my mom and dad were together. No, no, you see two people just like,

y'all love each other, but y'all don't necessarily go together like that. And I would rather just be a healthy situation than something where two people are stressed out. So by the time they told us and broke the news, we were like, of course y'all are getting to us. You know already. You're like, yeah, mom don't really mess with dad.

Dad don't really mess with mom. But now they're cool. Like, they love each other. They could be in the same room. And I think it was just necessary. Sometimes you don't have to be with the person that you, you know, have kids with it. I've heard people describe, and I want the ladies in the room to chime in on this. I've heard people describe your music as toxic honesty.

Y'all agree with them? Yes. Yeah. But I think you save yourself from us leaning too much on the toxic because you always come I'm going to be accountable of like this is what I was doing. And that's very prevalent on this project. Yeah. It was a maturity thing.

Like the first album I would say was more on the side of like still figuring out accountability. It was just like you lazy and I don't like this and we don't go together and you did this to me. And as the projects have like kind of progressed, it's like I'm seeing more and more of like what I did and what I didn't do. It's like, okay, you had a lot to work on. You were in denial about a lot.

You were deflecting a lot. And you just didn't have it figured out like. the way you might have thought you had it figured out in the moment. On Birdflew, you talk about, like, the evolution from a boy to a man, right? And I saw you on effective immediately with Gina Hughes and DJ Head, talking about how you are in your relationship now versus how you were in your old relationship. What was the, like, come to Jesus' moment for you to be like, ah, it's me. I'm messing up here.

Learning the same lesson over and over and over and over. It could be something as simple as, like, communication issues. Like me, when I was going through my career and my life changing and having a kid, and like just dealing with everything that I have to deal with being a provider like I just got in my head about it and I would have moments where it would be a conversation that I need to talk about and I would just be like you know today is not a good day let me wait till tomorrow and then tomorrow comes you're like I don't want to wrong breakfast let me just wait to dinner and then dinner come and you just like and you put it off until it like continues to grow into a bigger issue and then when somebody else has to bring it up it's just like I lost now like I can't I can't win the argument I can't the battle is lost so I think uh having to learn that lesson like I kid you not, maybe a hundred plus times and dealing with somebody who's sharp and aware and patient, but still just like going to call me out anytime they need to call me out.

Those were my moments of just like, if you don't get it together, bro, you're going to lose everything you work for. And for me, that was just family. As your therapist ever told you how not to even bring it up at all? Which of me? Just in general, like, when you wanted, it's how you said you was waiting until breakfast, dinner. What about not bringing it up at all? I'm that's that's my that was my forte unfortunately for a while um and oh you had okay I get it

you had to see something because you weren't saying yeah yeah yeah I had to shut up oh yeah no that's that wasn't me yeah I didn't have no issue with that at all it was way opposite for me like again I can just be I can really be in my head about a situation and think that I'm figuring it out or think that I'm working towards it and then yes next thing you know six months later and she's just like well what happened on this day when you wasn't feeling this way and you didn't say this to me and like now I know it's something was it deflecting or was the fact that you just did not want the beef the war it's a little bit of everything like I was definitely deflecting a lot like especially when you are kind of like the head and in most of your situations

like the leader or the boss or whatever like it's it's natural to feel like I have everything under control and when somebody can like see you and say you know I see you slipping right there or that person ain't good for you or this situation this situation ain't right It was almost like a reflex for me to just be like, what are you talking about? Like, I know this person since middle school. Like, they would never have my, you know, worse interests at heart. Like, you trust me versus listening to somebody who in a moment might have knew more than I knew. Why the name love is the new gangster?

It's a concept. And I agree. But, like, I want to hear your reason. It's not a new concept. It's not new under the sun. I feel like we've heard it a lot growing up. And I think it's just nice to reiterate that love can be at the core of everything that we do. we grow up learning at certain things of gangster but as you mature you know taking care of your family

being there for your folks having hard conversations being embedded in your community like these are the things that you grow to understand are actually cool and actually gangster yeah it feels like you saying emotional intelligence is harder than pretending not to care was that was that the point yeah that's sure yeah i already have a couple um favorite bops or whatever i like all that matters with a leon and easy chike how did that come about i thought that was very dope I've been in LA for a minute and I was moving around, like, working on this album thinking, like, I don't have a song that feels like I live out here yet. So I just wanted to, like, capture that feeling of just being out on the West Coast. We started in the studio with my homie Smiley.

And, yeah, we just built like a baseline that felt really good. And I did the first verse in the chorus and then I stopped. And normally, like, when I'm writing music, if I stop after the first verse in the chorus, that just means, like, it's time for somebody else to come into the picture. So I listened to it for a few weeks. I thought of somebody from LA and Chike popped up because of the pop out and just like the few moments that he've had where I just, I like his

tone, I like the clarity and how he raps, I like how regional it feels and it sounds. And then at the end, yeah, Leon, I just needed that extra sauce on the top. And that that's what it was, the extra sauce. And then on the song, trauma, that also stuck out to me as well. I love the message in it because you're saying, I can't let this trauma

gets in my daughter. But I also have trauma from my mom. I got trauma from my my dad, you know what I mean? Like, are you, was that song difficult to write? Because it is a beautiful message that you don't want the trauma to get to your daughter, but at the same time, it seems like you're still dealing with. Yeah.

You also say you've been holding it. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it was difficult to write, but it was, it just, it did take a moment for me to, like, wrap my head around it. Like, I wrote that song, like, right after my grandmother and my mom's mom passed. And I was like the first time that I went back to the studio. and just had to like unpack like to see my mom go through that and to know like this ain't really

something that you get over. And to also like my own relationship with my grandmother, it was just kind of strange because I was in Atlanta. She was in Baltimore. She had substance abuse and just like things that she was dealing with and struggling with. So trauma was just me kind of looking at everything in my life and thinking like I got to be super responsible for my stuff. If it leaks over into my kids like that's just unacceptable. So it's just like work on it. So that's to be babies don't have to deal with it. What do you think men still lie to themselves about emotional? What do men lie to themselves about emotionally?

I think just the premise of just like, I'm good. Like everything is good or everything is going to be all right. I think sometimes it's nice to just, like, admit when it's not good and admit when things are a little bit, like, more than you can handle and at least, like, say it to the folks that are around you because I do feel like sometimes we have just, like, base level relationships with our guy friends and we can joke and be in the group chat and we can like talk about anything but when it comes to like digging deep you know it's more just like you know i'll highlight you'll later or i'm gonna be straight or don't worry about me so i think you know we we also lie about

the relationships that we have with our our guys and um there's just a lot more room for growth in that area in this process of making this album i felt like i had to kind of reset and cut a lot of folks off and just be like look you know you can live whatever life you want to live but I need folks that truly have my best interests at heart and won't put me in no compromising situations and don't have me like looking over my shoulder. So, you know, if we aren't maturing at the same rate, then, you know, I love you, but I got to go. It feels like you have, it's easier for you to talk through your music than actually have those conversations in person. Yeah, all the way.

Are you getting through that now? Because, I mean, that would ruin a relationship. Yeah. You can't have those conversations. Oh, yeah. And for myself, that was difficult because it's like to face the b-b-that you did. Yeah. It's difficult.

Now that was also my bread and butter I'm like I can put it in a song all day I could write it bridge it Chorus it verse it whatever And I also would kind of develop this mindset of thinking because I expressed it That somehow you know

Like because I put it on wax Like you know what I was going through Or you know what I was thinking Or you know what happened And you're just like I'm not checking for your music to be listening Or a hidden clue Like just tell me what's up

Like that could be about me That could be about anybody And I just had to like Kind of break out of that Where I'm just bearing everything on track and then we kind of sit and we just watching TV it's just like come on, how did you break out of it? She just don't play, bro.

I love her. I love it. She don't play. And it sucks to say. I don't know how long it would have taken, you know, without her being present. But it really took somebody just checking me as many times as they, you know, we're willing to check me. And it's just, it humbles you for somebody to let you know, like,

you're not cute to me right now. Like, I'm not. I don't want to kick you. with you. I don't want to go nowhere with you. I don't want to do nothing with you until we figure out what this feeling is. That's the keep a little. Does making emotional music ever reopen wounds you were trying to close? Not for me. No, not necessarily anymore. I think like once I start to just put it out, I'm okay with it. Like I'm cool with like performing songs like problems and ex-calling like some of my first songs. And I think somebody had asked me to just like how does it feel

performing those and do you not want to perform them sometimes and I'm just like no it happened I needed to go through it I had to learn everything I needed to learn and like I'm straight like it's it's cool to get it out like the music portion of it and the songwriting portion of it for me is just that's my that's my form of expression so I like it's I know she's also an artist too but does it open anything for her because like there are some lines on the song where I was like oh that I don't know if that maybe caused the conversation like you talk about talking to a stranger yeah at one point because at that time you just needed somebody to talk to and you that was your mistake for even doing that. I'm like, as a girlfriend, I would feel like, well, why we got to bring that back up? Yeah, I mean, but that's the thing, too. I think, like, when two people do the same thing, it's been a nice balance for me to figure out. And I, in the beginning, was a little bit just not accountable

for what she might feel or not, what's the word? I just wasn't aware. and since like this album and the last album like the one I did before this too it's been nice to just have combos like before I even went on press runs and did anything I was just like what's off limits you know what's okay to talk about you know is how honest you know can I be what business of ours is everybody else's business and just kind of walking her through like how I am going to answer something and you know we had a combo about it she just said look as long as you don't feel embarrassed and

you aren't embarrassed me then you know, speak your truth. Does psychedelics help with y'all? Honestly, it's not like a go-to, but it has. Like, just in my own world, in my own thing. Like, I've had a couple of moments where I've gone and done some medicine and, like, taking care of myself in that way. Only, like, two or three times.

But, yeah. Ayahuasca, mushrooms? I've done before mushrooms. I don't really care for too much. LSD I've done before, too. I think LSD and ayahuasca are, like, similar. Waska's more like natural yeah this is like the real deal I love I have only done it once yeah I is beautiful it's crazy it's everything wrapped in one and I think LSD is just like it can be

for fun I don't want to do LSD I've done I have three times but it was all in one yeah session so it was like three different three consecutive days yeah I think LSD is like getting straight to the fun part of it I is like going to take you back no yeah whatever you's going to take you back I is going to put that trauma on the table and make you face it at all it was like the Matrix when like the the file cabinet just like fly past you and it's like yeah we're about to get into everything the reason I ask because of the song

Mushroom Chocolate yeah oh yeah yeah yeah um on your song going back to what envy said it seems like you do it's easier for you to express yourself to your music

and just having a conversation on running late you said I know I'm overdue for a cry like is that like how often do you cry and what would you be crying about I'm happy I cried last night it was nice

Yeah, I did a show out here. And I got a song on the, basically the deluxe version of the project with trouble from Atlanta who passed away. And, yeah, I just had a moment to myself last night. It sucks to lose somebody over something, like, just ridiculous. And, yeah, I need to cry a lot more. That's kind of popped up in conversations and arguments, too. Sometimes you just be like, I don't know what you feel like you need to give me a little bit more. So it takes a lot, but also I think that's just from.

years and years of just being guarded and having to figure out how to break that down and just kind of let go a little bit. She mentioned a cry. When did you get to the point where you felt like it was okay to be that vulnerable, right? Where you could talk about crying and you don't care that if people make funny, you don't care about what they say. If I cry up here, he's going to be like, this bitchy ass, why I'm going to cover a negro. Are you right? Am I lying? Lauren, am I lying?

Jess is my lying? I would not do that. It depends on what you're crying about. Exactly. Like, he's not going to just be like. He's going to check on your first. He's not gonna care because he's got I cry a lot. I'm gonna laugh.

I ain't gonna call him no bitchy ass. Like, what the fuck is this? You're laughing? It's the same difference. You're not. It's not. It's gonna be like the lyrics. It's the same thing.

So where did you get that vulnerable? When did you get that vulnerable? It's not. Honestly, I felt like it was with my daughters. Like once I had my first born and with this new. baby like the the time in between those uh just i don't know it just opened me up more it made me a lot softer um and it made me a lot more honest and also just like for the beginning of my career

like missing out on a bunch of my first one like even though as a present father providing doing as much as i can it was some moments that i just won't ever get back and it was some moments when i was on stage or on the road to where i'm just kind of coasting you know thinking that it's cool or that it'll be cool because it's all fun in games when we see each other. But truthfully, like, I'm reintroducing myself to my kid every single time I come back home. And that started to like chip away at me until I just finally found a way to talk about it and admit that it was something that kind of broke my heart. It was just like, you know, I know she's happy. I know we have a great relationship. She's a great kid. Like, nothing is wrong right now, but I went through something that I didn't

know how to communicate. And once I was able to say, like, that messed me up. Like, that's when I think it started to just like fix everything else. Going back to the conversation about your first daughter. What conversation did you have with her mom once you got to this point of realizing like, okay, there's moments I missed and how I felt and kind of like, I guess, figuring out how she felt through those moments to make it where now y'all as co-parents, you know, are able to like everything cohesive and, you know, kind of get past that emotional stage. That came in waves and it came in like fractions.

It wasn't like an upfront conversation. It was just something over time. Like in the beginning, I had to find the balance. of like this isn't the person who I'm going to be with for the rest of my life and my life is changing at the same exact time so the timing looks a little weird it's like you get to go and like travel the world and do this and like being in a relationship and I got to be here and like take care of the baby and I think initially like it would come out in normal ways just like you know she misses you you know you need to figure out some time to see her and yeah it was it was just

never we never had a sit down in the beginning because again I was trying to figure out like how do I draw boundary with somebody who I've had just issues with just, you know, from my end, from her end, like, standing on what we say and not like going back and forth for swaying or just lying to each other. And yeah, and how do I continue to show up as a father? So I had to find that balance and it took literally up until like, it took like six years. Like to truly get it down to where you have a combo and you just like, look, everything that's happened before.

Like if it's not about her, it's dead. if you slip in or you say anything weird I'm gonna tell your folks if I do anything weird you can tell my folks like now we just need to like make sure none of it gets to her at all The name of that song is Wifi Baby Mama

Yeah what the hell is a wifey baby mama Yeah it's a I mean I feel like baby mama Just has a negative connotation around it sometimes And I have two kids now Two different baby moms But I know who I'm with right now As a person that I want to be with for the rest of my life But also I don't feel like I'm like

I'm like reshing by any like societal standards of like, well, you're together and you had a kid, so you need to get married right now. Or da-da-da-da-da. It's just more like, I want to make sure when I propose to you, that is such an undeniable yes, that we have talked through everything, work through everything, you know, and nothing unnecessary has to come up later on. Like, let's handle the work first and let's make it so that, you know, when we have our wedding, our baby can be there and it can be a beautiful moment.

She can be the flower girl. And it doesn't have to feel like we, you know, didn't do anything the right way. You know the work never stops. I know, yeah, for sure. But I want to get the dirty work. Like all of the hard work just at least started right now. So again, when I say, will you marry me? I want it to be like, yes, of course.

Not like, we still got a combo to have about, no. You're afraid that she might still say it? I know you said she don't play, but. Yeah, I mean, I just, I know, I know how I've been and I know how long it's been. So, you know, almost a decade of working through communication issues is not something that somebody will just wake up one day and be like, I'm good with you wasting my time for 10 years. Like, no, it's going to take a minute for it to, like,

finally be exactly where we both want it to be. And I just want her to be as happy as possible. I want myself to be as happy as possible. And, yeah, I'm not, like, rushing to do anything like that. The marriage is coming. But your awareness is beautiful, though, like how you... Sound good to y'all. You take accountability?

Yeah, I know. It sound good to y'all. She knows. She knows. She know the truth. You at home? No, no. That was like...

That was my weird thing in the industry, too. Like, I'm a young man coming into the industry, and accessibility is, like, on 1,000 right now. So you travel the world and you see everything and you hear everything, and it's right there knocking at your door. And to have to decide, you know, what to do every single night or every single week was just like, oh, this is, it's a while West out here.

Like, I've gone to places where I'm like, this is hell on earth. Like, as far as, like, being a black man, being a successful black man, being an artist, I'm just like, it's certain places I already know, like, when we go, make sure my green room is clear, make sure ain't nobody backstage. who don't need to be backstage.

And also just like keeping up with folks in general was just, it's just stressful. Like having to manage any other relationships or hide something or like keep something tucked away. Like that's too much. Like my health matters. Like I ain't mental health, physical health. I really ain't got time. You said it was like hell on earth, you know, backstage and seeing some of these.

What was the craziest thing a fan did? I couldn't tell you a specific moment because it gets blurry in those moments for me for sure. I managed you to say that. Okay. Australia. Australia is like the most dangerous place for a young black successful man. Why's that? Because their culture over there is just very like straightforward.

Like they don't, it's not like they're trying to get to know you and like what are y'all doing tonight and da-da-da-da. You'll hear somebody just be like, I'm trying to. And you should be like, I want to. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they don't beat around the bush out there. So I've just been able to see like the interactions out there. And that's one place where we go where I'm just like there's a bubble surrounding me. in the club for sure. It's like don't let

anybody through here because what I've had to like, the way I've had to like respond to certain things in certain moments or women have just been like, are you good? Like, are you gay? Like, why not? I'm just like, I'm good, are you gay? Yeah.

Yeah, it's like that over there. Well, so, all right, so then when you were talking about the open ear that made a stranger feel like, like closer to you, but she was nobody to you and what you did only made sense to you, what happened in that scenario then? Because I, after bounty and then hearing that line on bird flu, I'm like, you definitely must have got

caught to you, but you're saying no. In those moments when you are like having breaks in your relationship and, you know, trying to figure it out in your separate spaces, I just feel like I, I, like, would allow people to, like, think that they were cool with me or think that, you know, we were friends or think that the conversation

was good when truly I was just struggling, just like, having conversations with the person who I really wanted to have a conversation with. So, you know, it's just easier to talk to a friend or easier to talk to somebody that's, you know, randomly, you know, in the room at a venue who's, like, just trying to strike up a conversation and feeling like you're relating to each other when truthfully in my head, I'm just like, I don't want to talk to you, right? I really don't, but, like, I need to mature a little bit more so that I can just, like, continue to keep that, like, far away from me.

How are your fan base feel about a happy black? I know that most people who listen to my music understand and appreciate like just linear growth. But there are some folks who get introduced to you in a very beginning. Like a song is viral like problems is going to make you think, oh, this is my toxic king like I need. I go to him for this. But I just feel like if you want me to stay in a place that was depressing for me, then you just not really want my type of person.

If you want that too, it exists right there on all DSPs. You can go listen, put it on repeat as many times as you want. but I would never if I ever went back there it will be bad for everybody like I don't I don't want to have another like free black era so I think most people get it and the ones that don't they just need to learn that you can always go listen to the album is right there all right love is the new gangster black we appreciate you for joining us

brother sir appreciate it all right it's black it's the breakfast club good morning don't get under a shape man you are a donkey it's time for don't give the day The donkey of the day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey band, hit it with the heat. It's a breakfast club, bitch. Who's donkey of the day today?

Well, Ed Sharon, donkey of the day goes to Isaiah Walker of Arizona. Now, let me tell you something. Donkey of the day is therapeutic for me. Okay, it's therapeutic for me because I like logic. All right? And we live in a world right now where nothing is logical. And this gives me a chance to just being about it. All right?

When I say things don't make sense, they don't make sense. I truly believe that in the future, we are going to realize how all of this new technology, the way we consume information via the internet, via social media, has completely ruined and sabotaged our neurological pathways, okay, completely disrupted our cognitive abilities in ways we don't understand, okay, the way we think, the way we comprehend, the way we reason, the way we problem solved, the way we process information. We are going to find out how technology has made our cognitive abilities extremely low. Isaiah Walker is exhibit A

for me in regards to this theory because Isaiah who is 20-something years old was released from a correctional facility and as soon as he was released he started thinking of ways to go back. All right. See when he got out of jail he spotted a commercial car hauler

okay that was loaded with C8 Corvette. What is the C8 Corvette? NVee, you a car guy. It's a new corvette that just came out I think about two years ago it's the newest model of the C8. It was in that moment Isaiah decided he needed a ride. All right. Let's go to Foxton, Phoenix for the report, please. Moving on this morning across Arizona, a suspect is behind bars in Cochies County,

accused of stealing a semi-truck full of high-end sports cars. Yeah, the suspect told deputies he stole the truck because he had just gotten out of prison and he needed a ride home. 23-year-old Isaiah Walker's accused of grabbing the semi-truck driver at a truck stop near Wilcox and throwing him out of the cab. Deputy St. Walker drove off with the semi, carrying nearly a dozen Chevy Corvette C-8s. The value more than $1.25 million. Coach East Deputy and a Wilcox police officer pulled over Walker for driving recklessly.

He's now facing serious charges. And this is why they call you nigger. Okay, I'm not going to let my quarters all levels get high this morning. I'm just going to bent, okay? Express what I'm feeling. $1.25 million in cars, right? in Corvettes. And Isaiah Walker's reasoning for stealing them

was he just needed to get home. He just needed a ride home. Let me tell you something, Isaiah. Home is where the heart is, and your heart is clearly in a correctional facility. Okay, we're going to stop acting like prison isn't the best place for some people. And if it's not where you want to be,

then why do you keep doing things to be there? All right? This guy literally just walked out of a correctional facility, just walked out of a prison. He said he just, really needed to get home. So he decides to carjack a whole car hauler full of corvettes. Now, all you need is one car to get home. Okay, it doesn't even have to be yours. Never in the history of life have you called Uber, Lyft, or any rideshare company, and they sent you a truck full of cars, okay? But this is what I'm telling you when it comes to logic. That doesn't exist

anymore. Not to mention, he tried to get away. Police got behind him because the description was easy. Hey, stolen semi truck, ten brightly colored Chevrolet Corvettes on him. Sheriff deputies were on his ass in seconds and he refused to stop swerving the hauler across lanes, forcing other drivers to have to drive off the road

and thank God he didn't hurt anybody. Okay, he eventually stopped, surrendered to law enforcement and they took his ass home and by home I meant jail. Okay, the police asked him what exactly did he plan to do with the 10 brand new corvettes and his answer was he had no

interest in the cars whatsoever. He had just gotten out of prison. He had no way to get back to Oklahoma and figured stealing a semi-truck was a reasonable solution to his transportation problem. That was an exact quote. If that sounds remotely logical to you, then do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Just go straight to jail with Isaiah. Okay? I would rather him say, hey man, I just got home. I'm not trying to get no job. I stole this truck. I got these cars. I'm going to sell them to a chop shop. but to say you did all that because you needed a ride home please give Isaiah Walker the sweet sounds of the hamletones Oh now you are the donkey

Damn He didn't think that went through See I want to stop using the N word Nope And y'all want me to stop using the N word But what am I supposed to say with n-n-b-niggin? Okay, but I'm trying But not for the reasons y'all want me to

I'm trying because I think you know N-words are immune to that word and I'm looking for something stronger okay I was watching the great show that is absolutely in my DNA you see I got the t-shirt on the day of the boondocks I was watching it over the break and Uncle Ruckus reminded me of why we shouldn't use the N-word anymore and it's because we need something stronger

can we hear it please no I don't think we should use the word and I'll tell you why because because I've gotten used to it that's why hell they like it now you gotta rotate your race or sludge now I know it's hard cause I just rolled off the tongue the way sweat rolls off of the fissor's forehead but we

We cannot let that be a crunch, especially when there are so many other fine substitutes. Spade, clutch monkey, jigger boo. I say next time you're gonna call a dark-ha-a-dha-a-a-h-h-h-h-a-kka, call that Kuna-Junga Bunny instead. I agree. Stupid Spade, illogical Jungle Bunny? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't like those. I don't care what you like. You're Dominican. I'm not Dominican. I'm black. I don't like what the dumb-ass boy did. What? I have so many questions.

Yeah. I'm like, how are you going to hide? Like, were you going to hide? You're going to try to drive all the way to Oklahoma? Nah, that's your problem. Y'all sitting around trying to figure out why I'm going to do what they do. You too, shit. The Breakfast Club, good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salameen Nagar. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawlerosa's here as well. We got a special guest in the building. That's right.

Now, she entered the picture podcast competition at last year's at Black Effect. Podcast Festival. Black Effect. Say it with your chest, please. I said Black Effect. I didn't like where I wrote up. I said Black Effect podcast. There you go.

She won and she is now on the network. The name of her podcast is the Black Mother Woon podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Jennifer Arnis. Welcome. Good morning, Jennifer. Good morning. How are you feeling? I'm feeling amazing.

Where are you from? I'm from Stedman, North Carolina. North Carolina, okay. Hey, Carolina girl. I thought Carolina. How did you hook up with Instagram? Oh, okay. Yep.

I live outside of Charlotte now in Rock Hill. Okay. All right, because at the podcast festival, she was with another podcaster from Delaware and I was like oh my God this is like such a full circle moment my first time meeting you and you were her

and I know her for years. And you know her for years and we know each other online for years and now that's my buddy. And you're also a spiritual coach and intuitive healer. Yes. What is that again?

Well it means that the work that I do is all about creating a better relationship with yourself, right? So that's your mind, your body, and your spirit. And I think most of us we're given tools on how to have our physical body in shape. We're given tools now to even maybe, you know, our intellect and our mind,

but a lot of times our spirit, the thing we can't see, gets neglected. And I think that's like our core, and that's where our compass is, and that's where our intuition lies. So I think through healing, through vulnerability, transparency, you can stop compartmentalizing those things and have them all work together. Is an intuitive healer, kind of like a medium? No, a medium. I don't tell you the future or anything like that.

It's just how you connect with yourself. Got you. Your inner little child, your emotions, all those types of things like that. It's, yeah, it's no crystal balls. You have the power. It's teaching someone how to tap into their own power. And, you know, we've been having a lot of...

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We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And... Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

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Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian! I'm not qualified to give good advice.

Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice. into man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Conversations lately just about, you know, father wounds, mother wounds. What is a black mother wound for people who don't know? So let me tell you about what a mother wound is because I think with social media,

they throw in terms around and use them for everything, right? And how I came to learn the mother wound through Bethany Webster is it is a generational wound that passes down from a mother to a daughter is rooted in the patriarchy and the mother's lack of autonomy that she has over her own life that's created by the patriarchy. she models that behavior down to her daughter. And so it's like really teaching a girl how to survive with less. Right? And so you have, so it's gender-based.

The black mother wound, we're going to add race and how a black woman also loses autonomy, not just because of her gender, but because of her race. Because when I read all these books about the mother wounds, they don't, there's not a real reflection of us. A black woman's story isn't centered and is not the same. same having a white mother and having a black mother is not the same the wounding is not the same so it's really how we approach it especially if you grew up with a strong black mother if you grew up with that because there is no strong white mother there's no strong Mexican mother there's no strong Asian but there's a strong black mother and that's really a crown of thorns we've kind of

exalted it but really it's painful and you pass that down to your daughters so if if my mother was born in 46, she has certain freedoms. So I was born in the 70s. She's teaching me from what she knows about freedom. But I have more freedom. Right? And that becomes the disconnect because she's trying to teach me about a world that doesn't exist anymore.

And I'm trying to live in a world that she doesn't know about. And that's what creates a lot of the conflict between black women and their daughters. Well, break that down. Explain that a little bit. Because somebody will say, well, I'm white. I had a strong white woman. A wife's strong white mother. You know, I'm Asian.

She's talking about. But the social construct. But break that down because people will just hear that and be like, that's not true. But what do you break that down? When I say having, when you say, oh, she's a strong black woman, like, it's seen as, you know, a badge of honor. How you, I was listening earlier on the radio and the guy was talking about his wife and he said he loves his wife because she's always in so much pain, but she never shows it. That's what he loves. about her. That type of expectation, I believe, is relegated to black women. And if you're going

through pain and you don't know how to show it and you have a black daughter, she's going to go through pain and you're going to teach her not to show it because that's what being strong is. That's what being good is, how much you can abandon yourself for the sake of others, which is rooted in systematic racial oppression, is rooted in chattel slavery, is the dehumanization of a black woman and how she teaches her daughter that her dehumanization is also a part of her survival and how to wear it with a smile,

how to make it nice. That's not something that other cultures are really experiencing the way black women and their daughters. It's not the same. Our elders endured so much that sometimes trauma gets passed down as strength. Not sometimes, always.

Yeah, it does. Because at one point, that was how you stayed alive. But it's not how you stay alive now. And I think that's why we have to even update how we are parenting. Because when you look at black culture, a big part of black culture, you have music, you have the way you dress, you have the way you talk and you have the way you parent. You parent like a black parent. You parent like this.

And it's so rooted in tradition that we're missing that is becoming obsolete now. When did you learn that you were even allowed to acknowledge that there were black mother wounds? because for a long time, I didn't even know that I was allowed to even say that and talk about that. I never knew. I always knew it was a thing. And then when I was 40, me and my mother were having a conversation on the phone. And she started hitting me with a one word answer. I was trying to help her.

And she was like, okay, okay, okay. And I realized she thinks I'm her enemy. I have spent all my life trying to please her, trying to be everything that she wants me to be. And in this moment, she thinks I'm her enemy. She doesn't trust me. And it was literally like my life flashed before my face. And I had seen it my whole life. And I was like, oh, she got me up.

This is not me. This is not my problem. And then to talk about it, I read a book by Bray Brown, and she was talking about shame. And I realized how much shame I felt because I didn't have a close relationship with my mother. I didn't even know how to acknowledge it. And so realizing that you cure shame through sharing.

And so that's when I was like, let me see if, am I broken? Am I a bad person? Am I wrong? And then starting to share my story and people saying, oh, my God, you're saying how I feel, but I didn't have words for it. You're letting me know I'm not the only one. I'm not crazy. I'm not exaggerating.

I'm not making it up. Those were all the things I felt. And so as soon as I saw, oh, I'm not the only one. I was like, let's talk about it. And it really did help me because I have so much shame. You know what I mean? It's just I was raised in the Bible Belt and church, single black mother. You know, everything is like there's a sense of guilt that's put on you early on.

And so just being, just talking about it has helped. And that's why I think that's a really important thing. When you talked about it with your mom, was she receptive to hearing that? No. And we've had the conversation before. I've never, I've always known. there was something off between the relationship with me and my mother.

My whole life, my father knew it, you know. And this is not to shade her. It's just something that I always knew, but I just felt that it was me. So, no, I don't think she has that. Well, I know she doesn't have that capacity to understand. And I've seen as disrespectful for me to even bring it up. I want to talk about that, right?

Because, like, you know, just mothers, grandmothers, right? In the black community, they're sacred figures. You can't be questioned. How do you create space for accountability without encouraging disrespect? Well, first I think we need to redefine like what is disrespect? Because that is like the number one word in the black community. It's like, oh, what does that mean? Because a lot of times if you disagree, you disrespect.

If you talk loud, you disrespect. If you don't say yes, ma'am. So it's like you can't hold someone accountable. Your boundary is for you. So my generation, it might not happen with me. It may happen with the next generation. So this work isn't about changing the mother, right? It is about the daughter healing the relationship with herself.

So she doesn't repeat the same patterns. And then as she becomes in touch with her own humanity, she then can see her mother's humanity. And sometimes you do love from afar. We have to get out of this concept that what a mother should be, how the relationship should be, and learn to accept it as it is and build loving community

and loving relationships where we can find them. A lot of times we think if I don't get the love from my mother, then I'm not going to get it from anybody. And my things, I want to teach you just because she can't give you the love, it doesn't mean the love doesn't exist because you're going to a well that's dry. You know, it's like I'm a cell phone. I'm an iPhone.

Just think about our programming, all the things that an iPhone can do. A lot of our mothers are a house phone. you can't click over there's no FaceTime there's no apps it's a limited capability does that make her wrong no we are all on an evolutionary journey this isn't about

shaming anybody but it is understanding actual human dynamics and like where can I get the love I need how do you break those traumas right because it's like you know being a dad right like my dad raised me a certain way right and he did it out of survival right he was he went to the military he's seen racism

he wasn't able to drink a certain Water Fountain. So for me, he looks at people a certain way, which made me look at people a certain way. Right. But that was 40, 50, 60 years ago. But now when I have my kids, I kind of do the same thing as my dad, and I try to scale back a little bit, but it's

difficult because that's how you raise. So how do you break those traumas so that your daughters and your daughter's daughters and your daughters' daughters' daughters, and your daughter's daughters, daughters are not feeling that same trauma? The reality is, I'm not going fix all of it. There are mistakes I made with my son that I'm, you know, put money away for him to be in therapy when

he's older. You know what I'm saying? You're not, you're not going to fix everything. You're, and that's, I think, it's, what's better than being right is allowing yourself to be wrong in front of your kids. You know, it's like, I don't know, you know, I feel this way. I know it's not right. I'm working through it. Okay, dad, well, we're going to help you out. You know, I made a mistake, things like that. It's just, apologizing. Apologizing is huge, right? My son would prefer me to apologize than be right all the time. because I want to teach him how to apologize. So you're not going to break every chain, right?

It is just a process. And really, it comes from you being transparent and vulnerable. And exactly the story you just said, telling your kids that. Like, hey, I'm trying to change these things. This is the way I am. So be patient with dad. I'm working on it. And that's all you can do.

Do you think a lot of black families confuse survival with healing? I don't know if they can. Confuse survival with healing, I think they, I think they confuse healing with religion. So survival is just how we live. I think we confuse maybe survival with our culture. Like we have a, as black culture, a lot of things we do are survival base. So we can confuse those. But I don't think they confuse survival with healing.

I think people think that healing is either church base or you have to be on somebody's couch going through therapy all the time when this is what healing is healing is a change in perspective that's all the healing is it means you can see something differently where you saw it you know as a curse now that i have a better understanding i can see it as a blessing two things can still be true it did hurt me but now i've learned from it i have a new skill from it things of that nature right so i think that's how we don't really have a uh and we think healing means if something is black, we can make it white. That's what I mean that we look at it in religion. That's why we want, oh, my mother to change. Why can't she change? Like, just flip a switch. I'm going to pray for her.

She's going to be different. I mean, that's not how it happens. When you get pregnant, it takes nine months. You're not going to pray a baby to be born. We only know about that happened at one time, you know? So we don't look at people evolving in that same way. But healing in a miracle is a change in perspective. So healing your mother wound is not changing your mother. It is changing your perspective about the relationship and changing the perspective you have about yourself because how my mother saw herself, she taught me to see myself that way. It's just my personal opinion. I feel like the parents are the first people that traumatize you if they're not doing it right as a child. Yes, they absolutely are. That's why everything

you're talking about when you talk about apologizing and admitting your mistakes, that stuff I'd never heard. Never heard, never. But it wasn't, you have to think again, they didn't even have the language for that. You have to think a house phone with the string and is rotary. That's very limited. But so much has happened in one or two generations that now we have so many resources to us that we can understand things very differently. But they are the first people to traumatize us in ways because they didn't have the tools. They didn't have the skills, you know, but they still have to be held responsible for the impact.

Especially if it wasn't their attention. Someone that whipping is crazy. Having to go, you know the psychological torture of having to go pick a switch? I didn't know you from the California. My grandma, my aunts always talk about having to go pick a switch. Having to go pick a switch. The weapon that's used to hurt you. So you know what's worse?

When they'll pick up anything and hit you. I'll go pick a switch. I'll go pick a switch. Don't get me with no floss water. You haven't been hit with a floss water? No. Okay. My grandma used to use a vacuum cord, though.

Thank you. You haven't been hit with a brooms day. No. Okay. All right. I'll go pick a stick. Remember the big wooden spoons? People used to have on their wall and the fork.

My mother, she had a ruler. And it was like an 18-inch ruler from her job. And it used to belong to a man named Mr. Bell and had his name on the back. So she would say, go get Mr. Bell. Oh, Lord. So when you was going to get Mr. Bell, you was about to get your ass tore up. But that, again, is rooted in chattel slavery that you punish someone. You change a behavior through physical punishment and the removal of acceptance.

the removal of affection, the removal of attention. Actually, that's more violent, they say, than physical punishment when you remove your affection from a child, when they do something wrong, you know, or you ignore them when they're in the house. That really causes even more damage, right? But we weren't taught that we were people who had feelings. And then we have to think about people don't look at kids as human beings. You don't have feelings.

you don't have emotions. Everybody's giving everything to you. So you can just, there's no reason for you to make this mistake, right? And that is why evolution is so important and that we have these conversations because there are new pathways to parent. There are new pathways to relate to each other now. What's the biggest thing you had to change about something you thought about yourself that you realized was like from your mother wound?

That I wasn't worth loving. Mm-hmm. that I had to work to be loved, that I had to earn love, that I had to be perfect, that everything had to be right, that I couldn't make mistakes, that I didn't be long,

that everybody else could be loved, but I couldn't be loved, that everybody else could get help, everybody else could fall down, have somebody help them get back up, but not me. That's a heavy burden, and I think that's been the biggest thing

with this work is teaching other black women, like, you don't have to earn love. You don't have to be, a certain way to be loved. You can make a mistake. You can be bad at something and you can get better at it. And like, it doesn't change who you are. It doesn't

change who you are. You are not broken. Yeah. Yeah. That was the biggest thing. Man, you know, a lot of black people grew up hearing things like what happens in this house, stays in this house? How much damage has secrecy done to generations of family?

See, it has created secrets and more secrets or more secrets where people can't be authentic, where people can't be themselves, where you can't say when you're hurt. And what happens is then you go out in a world and you create more damage. But so much of that is the pride, you know, but that again is rooted in the dehumanization of black people, that you have to show up a certain way. And at one point, it was violent if you didn't have it right. You know what I mean? off the rip. And you have to update. That's what we have to change the culture of black parenting because the secrecy is doing us way more harm than we could ever imagine. You said that there's

books where people can read. You know, even me and my wife, we wrote books on raising our kids. But what I realize is everybody's family is different, right? Everybody's kids are different, right? If that was the case, all my kids would be the same, but they're not. So there really is no manual. But what I wanted to ask you is, you know, going through your page, I've seen that, You have one podcast that seemed like it really resonated. And I wanted to ask you why you felt that way, right? And it was episode 27 where it was how to meet the needs your mother couldn't meet. Why did that resonate so much with people?

I was in here the whole interview. Why did that resonate so much with people? And what is the fix for that, I would say or guess? It's a big deal because we have a dream of who our mother could be. and we have a dream of this relationship that could be. You know what I mean? And you know how you have Disney? You have the, you have Cinderella.

Of course. You have all of that. That's us. Like it's so deeply, like we want it so bad. We want her to show up for us in a certain way so bad that we will neglect ourselves because we think she'll get it. I can't, if I can show I can't do it, she'll pick up, she'll pick up the piece and she'll meet the need for me. It's like trying to toss the ball, you know, alley-oop, alley-oop, and the ball just keeps dropping and rolling.

And then you have to come to the decision where it's like, oh, I've got a mother myself. I've got to let go of the fantasy of something that I will never have. And that's a grief and a heartbreak. like you've been your your heart broke a long time ago but you've been holding it together and then you finally realize in order for me to take care of myself i've got to let my heart break isn't that a good thing it i'm not saying it's not good but it's hard because once you're a parent you can i don't want to say be but you could want to be what you felt your mother or your father left out in your life right like for instance right my mom my mom and dad did not talk to me as

a quote unquote friend. They believe a child stays in a child place. I'm not your friend. Right. So what happens is you kind of have that wall when something's going on. It's almost like there's a fear to talk to them because you don't want to get in trouble. My kid's a little different. I'm like,

tell me everything. Tell me what's going on so we can help. Now you might get in trouble. But I want you to talk. It's a different relationship. But I learned that from not having that with my parents. So it's kind of, you learn it. You do, but not everybody learns it. You have to also look at envy.

You have been exposed to lots of different things and people and situations that have taught you that you have to communicate. Do you understand? So I think all of those things make a difference as well. And yes, it is good, but it's heartbreaking still. I mean, that's like saying somebody dying. Well, it is good that they died because it made space for somebody else. You can't say that. Well, that's what you're saying.

You said it went to heaven. But it's still, don't earth. They're gone. So you're making another space. You know. But for us, you get to say they died. They went to heaven. There's an ending.

Correct. But when that person is still alive and they live up the road. But they're still, I'm dead to them. They're dead to me. What do you do with that type of finite grief? That's what you have to manage to live with. Like, it's a weight that you carry. And a lot of times women don't want to do the work because they don't

to have to live in that. Right. And blooms and blossoms can come from that. But baby. I feel like that's where the generational passing down of it happens. Because like your mom doesn't even understand how to show for you because she didn't get it.

And then when you're old enough to do it better with your own kids and you're trying to teach it to them, it's like they're older now so they're not understanding it. But also like she don't even understand. She doesn't even grasp the idea sometimes of like what you're talking through because it's just not there.

Right. And you have, I always, also talk about this like we're animals right just like they're different a horse parents their babies or an elephant or a tiger all those types of things so i look at my job my mother's job with me was to get me to a certain point i have released her from all responsibility i know how to take care of myself um she taught me certain skills um there's certain things i've learned you know i can go out in the jungle and i can hunt because of her I'm thankful for that.

So now for me to say, and I want us to sit on the phone and I tell you all my dark secrets and you'll be there and you'll do this and you want that. Like, I'm asking too much. But you're okay with that every day, though? Because I feel like I'm working through that right now, but some days I don't feel like that. I don't, it's time.

I'm, this happened, what I'm 11 years in the game. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like a muscle you've got to build, Lauren, and it does get hard. And that's why we talk about when you have kids, but it's so important for you to reparent the inner little girl. That's what this work is really all about in building community

because we're putting our happiness in the hands of someone who can't hold it. It doesn't mean that we can't have happiness. It's so important to risk it with other people, to learn to be vulnerable with other people, to let them hold you, to let them help you, to be there for you. But that's a skill set. I mean, I'm learning so many things for the first time. time in my 40s, in my 50s. It's hard. And I have a child that I raise alone at the same

time. I'm tired. Okay. But it's so worth it because what you're going to do, you're going to try and hold that hurt when you 80. So if it's hard now when I'm 50, okay, when I'm 70, I'm going to be chilling. Right. So you just got to, you got to look at it in a more long-term way. Jennifer Arnese, first of all, she got a book out called F-F That Cape. That's right. The grown woman's unapologized. I know. They're putting herself first.

Great conversation. Make sure you go pick that up. Thank you. And subscribe to the Black Mother Woon podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network. You are having some necessary conversations. Absolutely. And I have a live event coming in Charlotte in July. When is it?

It's on July the 11th. We're doing a live podcast recording, fireside chat, live coaching. So you can go to my website over at Black. Blackmother wound.com or Jennifer Arnese.com and you can get a ticket. Bring a friend. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Absolutely. We're subscribed to the Black Mother Wound podcast, y'all. Definitely. Thank you all for having me. It's the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the World Most Dangerous Morning Show the Breakfast Club. DJ Envi Jolari, Sholamane to God. And I got my guy, man. He just launched Body by Jake Radio in partnership with Eye Heart Media. Jake Stinefeld is here. What's up, my brother?

Man, Sholomey. How are you doing? I am blessed black and highly favored. I love it, man. My God. Great to see you. Good to see you. Hello. Hey. You met Lauren before? Lauren, yeah.

A few times for sure. Lauren, how you doing? You look great? Thank you. I'm blessed. Looking very snappy. Oh, thank you. Today was my dress down day, but I'll take it.

No, you know, looking great. Jake is just lying to you to make you feel better about stuff. That's what he does. You know what I'm saying? He provides inspiration to people. Okay. You can tell you need. You're talking to him about the hairline.

You encouraged him to let it go. I'm just going to let him go. Jake's been selling motivation for decades. He knows what to say. to get you going, okay? So let's talk about the Body by Jake Radio, right? Yeah. So what type of, I mean, you got so much experience.

We just heard a lot of it. What is the, like the, what's your niche? Like, what is the content? Yeah, thank you, Lauren. I mean, the essence of it is this. My wife and I, I live in Century City, California now. So, you know, we're like in a city. And, you know, in L.A., you're in a car pretty much all day long.

Anyway, I'm in a car even longer. And I'm driving a lot. and I'm looking for something to kind of listen to. I love late 70s, 80s, and 90s music. And I was looking for something that was kind of quiet. Or just I can, to cool my brain down, man. You know, this is mental health month, right? You know, the most underutilized antidepressant is exercise, right?

If you're mad or sad or angry or stress, just move your body. Because when you're moving your body, you know, the endorphins start popping. You stand up a little bit straighter, right? you get that smile back that's up with spiral of success. And there was nothing on the dial that I found that had just encompassed some motivating tips or things like that. And Ted Turner, who just passed away, was my mentor. He was a guy he put me on TV in 1981. I did the fitness break, man.

Wow. The fitness break on cable news network, which ran four times a day in the States and about 10, 12, times an hour around the world. And it was me with two models on a beach in Malibu. And I was able to parlay that into videos and television shows. And I had a dream to create a television network and went back to Ted. Remember headline news? Right? The one hour wheel that they used to do. I used that platform to launch a fitness television network. Cut to all the way back all these years and here we are today, I'm in the car and I'm thinking about this,

and I said, I'm going to launch body by Jake Radio. I'm going to do it just the way I did it with FitTV. People are so desperate for hope today. Everybody is in, lots of people are in a bad place. You know, you got that black cloud over your head. You're in a deep dark ditch. You're not feeling great about yourself.

Change is rough and change is tough. But, you know, when you get the right motor, and the right inspiration and the right tools, that's when change can happen. So I thought, what if we created a platform where there were these nuggets of mental health tips, wellness tips, longevity tips, nutrition tips, all wrapped in great music, 24 hours a day, seven days a week where I wake you up in the morning and we put you to bed at night. And the overnight kind of programming, if you will, is more relaxation. It's more kind of calming music and things like that.

And, you know, Charlotte, look, I've been doing your show for a bunch. You've always talked to. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart. And I'm Catherine Clark. And in this podcast, we interview Canada's most inspiring women.

entrepreneurs, artists, athletes, politicians, and newsmakers, all at different stages of their journey. So if you're looking to connect, then we hope you'll join us. Listen to the Honest Talk podcast on IHartRadio or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?

We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name,

Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little name. Notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. About I heart, man, and here I am. And it's amazing to be part of this family. I'm day four into it, man. And the response has been tremendous. And I'm sure your audience knows they all have the IHeart Radio app. It's free. Just search body by Jake Radio and do a little preset audio.

and check it out. You know, Jake, you've been selling motivation for decades, right? Like way before people on the internet, social media, made everybody a fake life coach guru, fitness, wellness expert. What's the biggest difference between real discipline and performative wellness? Well, that's, you know, it's a great question.

I think it's about being authentic. I really do. You know, I see a lot of this stuff. I think the reason why I did come back in this way is because I just get concerned. for people, you know, when people are in a weak state and they're not feeling great about themselves, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll cross the desert trying to find water, right? And because someone told them to. And I get very bothered by that, man. And I take it,

and I take it personally. Look, I'm an entrepreneur. So, you know, if you have an opportunity and you have an idea and you want to go kick ass out there, go and do it. But do it right. Do it straight. You know, there's a lot of people out there who need help, who want help. Today, all these GLP ones, right, people are losing weight, which is awesome, man. I used to do shows looking at the camera. I did 17 years on Home Shopping Network. You know, I look at the camera and I'd say, there's no magic pill, you know?

Now it's a magic pill. Today there's a magic pill, right? But what happens is it's moderation. You've got to do all of this in moderation. and people are losing the weight and they're wanting to start exercising which is really terrific but a lot of people take advantage

of people like this a lot of people try to take advantage of people in a weakened state and that's why I thought with an opportunity and a proposition and a position like I have here with IHeart and Universal Music with Body by Jake Radio

we do it for free and we give you these tips and they're simple that life tips you know, that you can incorporate into your lifestyle, that just gets you on the road. It's about that first step. It's about you getting up and taking a step. You take that step forward.

You take two steps forward, and then three and four and five, and then you start to say to yourself, if I did that, what else could I do with my day? What else could I do with my life? And that's how it all starts. So it's authentic because you can't buy authentic and you can't buy trust. and that's what I've always felt that

you know I've been around a long time so you know I've seen a lot of a lot of people come and go and you just got to be straight when you think about this Magicville you know Ozypic area do you think people still want transformation or they want the shortcuts you think they really willing to put that work in

unfortunately I agree with what you're saying man I think that most humans look for the shortcut everybody want to get paid but nobody want to work, you know, and it's just, I think it's human nature. And there's a lot of people built that way. And look, exercise is boring, man. And exercise is hard.

You know, I'm whacked out of my mind. I'm in the gym at 4.15 in the morning because that's what I do. You know, it's a 42-minute workout. And I bang iron around for 42 minutes. That's my drug. That's my medicine. and I do a cardio muscular workout together. I visualize what I have to do during the day

so the reps go away. And when I'm done, my head is right and I'm ready to go. But what I try to propose or put out to people is every body is very different. And what works, you know, for you, is not going to work for me. Find something that works for you to fit into your lifestyle, to fit into your game plan,

not somebody else's program, jamming into your life. because it'll never work that way. What's the balance between, because now people want mental health and they also want physical health, right? Is there a real healthy balance between the two that makes a person feel better? Yeah, that's a great question. I think when you're exercising, you know, when you're feeling, because exercise, you know, because exercise, you know, gets those endorphins working. And your mental health is you're, you just feel better. when your body is moving, you know, all the joints are working.

And as simple as taking a walk, you know, if you're feeling stressed out, it changes your whole mindset. It really does. And I know you guys have millions of listeners, millions of people, millions of fans who watch you, who listen to every word you all say. And I think it's just imperative for this moment, because life is about moments, to take this moment and to think that and kind of reload, rest thought, you know, you went to bed last night, maybe not feeling so great. You know, you went to bed last night saying, I got to figure something out. My life is not right. My life is not working right. And I want to make a change. And for some reason, oh, you tune into the show every morning

now, and here I am. And this could be the moment, you know, because life is about moments. I feel like Body by Jake Radio is more about mental health than physical. It's, if It feels like it's more about mental survival than... 100%. Yeah, this is not an exercise. Listen, if you want to... I want you to be listening to this when you're on a train coming in the morning.

If you're in your car, walking a dog, sitting in the house, all these zoomies, you know, who at home by themselves, you know, on Zoom calls nine hours a day by themselves. Put Body by Jake Radio on. It's great music. And the little nuggets are just kind of speckled around, You know, four or five times an hour.

And it's like, you know, you know, I just saw a city old couple weeks ago. He's my guy. He's the greatest. He said his book is terrific, by the way, man. And, you know, you used to do a show that little segment he did the things that make you go, remember that? That's what I took from every one of the nuggets. I just want you to go, huh, oh, yeah.

I could fit this. Oh, hey, I didn't know that. you know and and that's just what that is so if you want to go work out to to to this you can but if you just want to listen to body by jake radio that's that's really what it's all about but it's going to get your body and your mind moving like you you were saying because mental health and physical health are combined right because when you have them both man you're working at full full speed full full tilt so listen you have you have you have you You now have the Body by Jake Radio app on the IHeart Radio app.

It is launched. It's ready to go. It provides motivation at every level of the day. It gives listeners energy to conquer the morning, keeps them going through the afternoon and into the evening. You heard Jake say it's a diverse mix of music and specialty programming. And, you know, just jewels to help you get through the day, man. I love it.

Jules to help you get through the day. That's right. And you guys are great. You know, I'm just taking off of what you're doing, man. Charles, you've done a great job. You continue to do a great job. Thank you, brother. Expanding the empire.

Thank you, sir. What's next? Movies. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Producing or? Producing, of course. Yeah, yeah.

You introduced me to a couple of great people. Well, yeah. We got, well, that's sure, man. You know, that's exciting, man. I think that that's really amazing. You know, I walk the halls here at Iheart now, you know, these last few days. and if I had $2 every time someone mentions Charlemagne's name, it's like, well, you know what Charlemagne does?

Well, that's the format. It's Charlemagne's gentlemen. Like, man. Well, they're good to me up here. Well, you know what? It's really unbelievable, man. You know, they said it. You know, Bob Pittman said it.

John Zellner said it. You know, Joe said the same thing. You know, once you become part of his family, a lot of things open up. It's, I see it early, and I've been doing, like I said, what I've been doing for a long time, dealt with a lot of corporations, and it's, I've never felt this kind of warmth. But to see what you guys have done with the publishing and just how you've really intertwined your brand, because that's really what works. What do you think the key is?

And for you and your brand to become as successful as you become, Well, if you're just talking straight media, keeping the main thing, the main thing, which is radio. Like, radio was the foundation that all those other houses are built on. If radio was a tree, all the other stuff would be fruit, the books and the, even the podcasting and, you know, the production companies, all of that is just fruit off of the foundation and the tree of radio. So the foundation is this radio show, the breakfast club. 100%. And everything comes off of that. Absolutely.

So if you were to recommend to an entrepreneur. at home who's who's you know who listens to you guys all the time you know who's saying man you know I got to be the next Charlemagne what do you what do you say I mean no no you're right because there's already one Charlemagne be who you are right but what what is the recommendation in in in the world we live in today of how this person gets started find a purpose you know what I mean like your purpose I think nowadays everybody's purposes you know just to make money everybody's purposes oh I just want to be seen or get the most followers like, no, what is your actual true purpose?

What is your true intention? Why are you doing what it is, you know, you're doing? Why do you want to do these things? Like, this body by Jake Radio is purpose-driven. What we do at Black Effect is purpose-driven. Like, what is your actual purpose? Find your purpose and, you know, everything is falling in place. Now, Black Effect has been that you just have the fifth anniversary.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So you're going to the top of the sixth. Yeah. Top of the sixth. And what are we looking forward to? Just the evolution of podcasting in general. Like when you look at like what these screaming platforms are doing,

like, you know, the partnerships we have with Netflix and there's a lot of other screaming platforms that's going to get in that game as well. So just, you know, showing people how to do the audio part of it, which is the podcasting, but then also expanding to the video side, which is the podcasting, but also taking those podcast creators and creating other forms of content with them. Because, like, those are the new stars.

Those are the new people that's moving things. So they're the ones that need to be. in those television, starring in those television vehicles and those movie vehicles and hosting the reality shows and game shows and stuff like that. But the essence is have a purpose. You got to have a purpose. Got to have a purpose. And you got to have that tree.

So for that person, it's the first seed. That's right. And the first seed is the purpose. That's right. And like for you, it's your brand. Body by Jake. So now you've created an extension of that, which is Body by Jake Radio. That's right.

That's exactly right. I just turning to you interview and me, Jake. Well, you know. I'm sitting here watching it too. I was enjoying it. I was enjoying it. My guy, man. Make sure y'all support Badi by Jake Radio.

Always a pleasure to see you, Jay. Hey, man. It's so great. Thank you. Absolutely. You guys are the best. Lord. Great to see you.

Yes, good to see you. It's Jake Steinfeld. It's the Breakfast Club. Hopefully you guys have a great memorial day. Yes, man. Hope y'all have a great memorial day. Hope you all had a great memorial weekend, man. Back to it tomorrow.

That's right. Absolutely. And this weekend, y'all can meet me at Mike Drop Comedy Plano. I'll be in Plano, Texas this Friday and this Saturday. We got four show. this weekend two Friday to Saturday so get your tickets y'all and we can't end the show without saying rest in peace to George Floyd he was tragically murdered brutally murdered brutally murdered tragically killed yes you know the streets May 25th 2020 so rest in peace

it's been six years already yeah wow time be fine it definitely does yeah and still sending healing energy to his family absolutely now you got a positive no show I do man I just want to salute to the U.S. military uh I just want to remind the U.S. military that's they swear an oath of allegiance to the U.S. Constitution and the nation, not the president. Okay, the president serves as commanding chief, but the military exists to protect the country and is accountable to the public it serves. So thank you all for your service. And please remember that a hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

Have a great day. The Breakfast Club. Boat up. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeart Radio. Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions.

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