The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - 90s Stars - Jasmine Guy, Morris Chestnut, Jaleel White + More

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People, my people, what's up? This is Quetzalove. Man, I cannot believe we're already wrapping up another season of Quetzalove Supreme. Man, we've got some amazing guests lined up to close out the season, but I don't want any of you guys to miss all the incredible conversations we've had so far. I mean, we talked to A. Marie, Johnny Marr, E, Jonathan Scheer, Billy Porter, and so many more. Look, if you haven't heard these episodes yet, hey, now's your chance. You got to check them out. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:55 A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat. This year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more. year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeart Radio app, have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of our podcast, Ruthie's Table Four. There are many luxuries in life, but I have to say that going to see Ian McKellen was one of the great days of my life. It's a joke that actors in the old days of not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, oh, we're doing Chekhov. There's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Ruthie's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:01:48 and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there. Hey y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip but a cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama who refused to give up
Starting point is 00:02:26 her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history
Starting point is 00:02:43 by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg podcasts to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes we dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine.
Starting point is 00:03:19 A lot of this meme stock stuff is I think embarrassing to the SEC. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. Good morning USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, you got a chance to rest a little bit. Today's show is all about 90s stars, alright? Now Charlamagne will lie, he will say he looks like this guy, but he'll be joining us this morning. The real Morris Chesnut will be in the building. Also, Jasmine Guy and Khadim Hardison, our guy, Jaleel White, and also, Rosé Párez, yes. It's all about all about 90 stars all on today's show. So don't go anywhere Get your ass up. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning
Starting point is 00:04:14 This is your time to get it off your chest We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club Hello, who's this? What's going on? It's great, Dane, D Money from Trilly. Hey, what's up, Dane from Trilly? Get it off your chest, brother. Hey, yo, real fast, I'm gonna get this out the way for Envy, because I'm a truck driver, man.
Starting point is 00:04:30 He honked the horn, but he breaking up. Yeah, we ain't hear the horn, man. You gotta do it again, bro. Do it one more time. If you need to hear you blow. Hey, yo, hey, yo, hey, yo, Shailor, man, you gotta chill. You know what? You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You don't want to call up here talking about you want to blow for your life. You need to hear you blow You wouldn't call up here talking about you want to blow fan yeah, that was like something that you was calling
Starting point is 00:04:55 Man, we know what you mean. No, don't let them take out You know the mental health and all that and my cousin is actually Rachel Rachel Edwards I won't get burst out Oh, she was like, I wish you would have caught up when I was working up there Malden Rachel last night Rachel. We was our last night We're all together we Jamaican, you know me we can fill you. Hey. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah, I've had uh I've had Rachel's mama's oxtails before yeah She go you should have saw man. She looks like she cooked like she was cooking and cooking for orphanage. That's how she do That's what's up. Yeah, man, and I ran in uh, I ran in the death before PR man Around 2020. I don't know if you remember I was a dude from Philly I don't know if you remember I was the dude from Philly and you look like you probably brought these flying roaches from Philly with you.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh my god no I don't remember that. You told him you brought roaches. You don't remember? No. No I don't remember. It was these big ass flying roaches in PR. That's what's running from them. Oh my god no I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It sounded like something I said. Oh my god. No but I ain't gonna lie you was cool as hell. I thought you would have been bougie or some ****. No't remember that. It sounded like something I said. Oh my God. No, but I ain't going to lie, you was cool as hell. I thought you would have been bougie or something. No, no, never that. You was cool as hell. Thank you, yeah. Yeah, man, that's all I wanted to say, man.
Starting point is 00:06:15 We appreciate you, brother. It's my first time calling, and I got through, man. I love y'all though, man. Listen to y'all every day in the morning. Appreciate you, King. Be safe for them, Rose. I will, I will. Have a good one, brother. Hello. Who's this?
Starting point is 00:06:29 What up Naomi get it off your chest I'm so mad Over the weekend I ordered a coat from McGonj and I ordered a size up and that's cocaine. I love it What is she saying about coke with that baby in the background? She said coat. She ordered a coat. A jacket. Oh. It's too small or too big.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Well, stop ordering from Tmoo. You want to buy that coat for $6? No, it was from Makai. And I'm so mad because I usually don't even buy stuff that's expensive. I wanted to treat myself. What's it called from who? What's it called? What's the place called?as. Macaas? What's that Jess? You mean Micah? M-I-C-A-S? No, Macaas. M-A-C-K-A-G-E.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh I don't know what that is. Okay how much was that coat? $7. $8.90. No it's not. $8.90 you gotta bring that back. $8.90? You just spent $8.90 on a coat and you just had Cyber deals and Black Friday? It's 890. Yeah, 890. I'm so mad. What kind of coat was it? A P-coat. Macage. I know, but what kind of coat is it? Is it a bubble coat, a trench coat? What is it?
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's a puffer. You bought a puffer for $1000? A puffer? Where you live at? Brooklyn. Wow. What? That puffer you think that puffer gonna keep you warm in these New York streets? That's crazy. So is it too small? It's too big. Oh damn. You could have bought two North faces. Right. You better put a hoodie under it and wear it proud. That's right. A thousand dollar investment. I don't know what I was thinking. I was so sad. Yup.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'm so sad. But I love you guys. I love you too bro. You sound like nobody even wanna rob you for that coat. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Now it's the Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up now, 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Not just me, I'm what the coach will fill it. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Rob from New Orleans. Rob from New Orleans, what's up? Get it off your chest. Who's this? Yo, they're off on New Orleans Rob from New Orleans What's up? Get it off your chest. What's that? And good morning, brother. Good morning. Good morning, brothers club Good morning, son. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, baby I want to get out my chest man. This is my first year anniversary. I got there one year ago today Congratulations. Congratulations, sir. That's what I said. Thank you, thank you, I want to give a shout
Starting point is 00:09:06 to my wife, she's asleep right now, so when she wake up, you know, we are our behind. So I woke up just to get off my chest. I love you, baby. Happy first year anniversary. What y'all doing today, anything? Man, we're about to have a whole day, whatever she want to do, the day dedicated to her.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So we about to, we about to, whenever she get up, we about to have a whole day, wine and dine, whatever she want to do the day dedicate to her so we bought the we bought the whatever whenever she get up We're gonna have a whole day wine and dine whatever she want to do So it is oh, it is else me. I woke up just to do this I said my love before I thought this morning to do this just the first thing when she wake up this morning I'm a play this in the morning 16. Oh, you got a whole day plan We took the day off today. We got our day time. We bring our baby girl to daycare. We started with the breakfast club and we ended with whatever we do we're going to do. But you know I just want to shout out my baby girl. Happy one year anniversary my baby.
Starting point is 00:09:57 All right brother have a good one man enjoy your day. Yes sir appreciate it. Get it off your chest 800-585-1051. If you need the vent hit us up now is the breakfast local one the breakfast club Morning everybody is DJ envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy We are the breakfast club and we got a special guest in the building the legendary Jasmine guy. Welcome back How you feeling I feel great I love doing your show the last time and I got a lot of positive feedback. People love you. Come on. It was a different kind of interview though than they're used to.
Starting point is 00:10:34 My daddy was like, you were a little too comfortable. You act like they were at your house. That was that champagne, right? Yes, that champagne, whatever that was. I didn't even like it that I was drinking it. But my father said that you would put more in when I was looking at Kadeem. That's what he said. He said whenever you looked at Kadeem, he poured more in there. So I'm thinking I'm just drinking one glass. I probably had four glasses of that. I see small auntie, whatever that was. But I drank it anyway at 7 o'clock in the
Starting point is 00:11:14 morning. How embarrassing is that? No, it got you to talking. And Kadeem was just sitting back there, just laughing. No, it was good because you ask questions that people don't usually ask. We get the same questions over and over, especially about a different world. And you've done so much more since then. Right. Absolutely. Like right now, you won your first Emmy this year.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Congratulations. How does that feel? She went for the Chronicles of Jessica Woo. Yes. That was a trip. So I was going to Mexico to hang out with my girlfriends and I land and I get all these texts from people saying, congratulations on your Emmy nomination. And I really thought people would mess with me.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I didn't even call them back. I said, whatever. I wasn't even, and then when I realized I really had been nominated, I thought it was for the show Harlem. Chronicles of Jessica Wu, I had done, it was before COVID. It was a long time ago and I only worked on it for a day. It was a very interesting project to me because the production company was a couple, a small black production company. The superhero in the in the piece had autism but her powers that whatever put her on the spectrum made her a superhero. Their daughter had an autistic child. Anyway, so I said well I'll do it
Starting point is 00:12:45 because I know after this, they're going to need distribution. And who knew? That's what you know what I'm saying? My love for them and what I know about, you know, pitching ideas, you're going to need a name. I know I've heard it all. And I said, well, I'll be your name. This is going to be good. And and it was a short series like a webisode series. The other Oscar nomination I got was also from an independent black company and it was my nephew Emmett and I played Emmett Till's aunt on the night that he was taken from their home and I was like oh I do not want to go to Mississippi. I'm telling you, we stayed right down the street
Starting point is 00:13:30 from where he got abducted. Man, Mississippi still got that same energy. Thank you. Yeah, nothing to change. I was going to say I felt ghosts, you know? And I did it, and they got nominated for an Oscar night. When the director called me, he was a graduate student from NYU Film School.
Starting point is 00:13:48 His mentors were Spike Lee and Casey Lemons, right? Beautiful brother and the crew and everybody. I had a great artistic experience. But when he told me, you know, we got nominated for an Oscar, I thought he was messing with me. That says a lot though, like about how, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:06 I guess black actors and actresses are conditioned in Hollywood, that when they get told that they're even nominated, they don't believe it. It's a joke. What would you ignore long enough, you get the message. I got the message.
Starting point is 00:14:19 If you're not nominating a different world, Debbie Allen, Susan Phelales, our wardrobe department, any other actor on that show, I stopped focusing on y'all giving me my props. I know who gives me my props. And I told the actors, I said, we just got to be good. You know, forget all these accolades or whatever. They obviously, do you know how many times they said to me, even on, I think I did Dennis Miller. Remember Dennis Miller, I had a talk show. He started with, so how does it feel being between number one and three? And I was stunned because I just sat down, you know, you come out all cute and what I, and I was like, he said that wasn't a good lead in question. I said, no, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:15:04 You're talking about Cosby and Cheers? Everybody said we were number two because we came between them. Okay. And that was the first question? That was the message that was the message that we got as actors as you know performers and we never got our props for not not just the acting but it was Debbie Allen, Susan Phelps, me, three black women in charge of that show. You know what I mean? We could have been on the cover of Essence, and I just knew who really saw us and who really understood us.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Why didn't the network fight for that? It's the same white motherf**kers that just looked. Okay, so Carsey Warner, our producers, also produced a show with Whoopi Goldberg called Bagdad Cafe, Grace Under Fire, and the Roseanne Show, and the Cosby Show, right? So we're one of five. They never asked us to do anything. They asked Roseanne Barr to sing the national anthem, in which she grabbed her crotch because she can't sing. But we got five singers on our show. That's crazy. You could have had Don, me, Cree, you know, never. I don't know. I just got things. We got things on our own and I never felt a part of that
Starting point is 00:16:18 network. Then when I saw what happened with Friends, I was like, yo, that would have helped us. It would have helped us with work after the show. It would have given us some, some props, you know, that we could have used for future projects. I pitched a lot. I have my own production company after a different world. All of my projects were rejected. But then I started to see them. That was weird. You know what I mean? It's like a bad relationship after a while you got to understand okay I ain't what you want. All right we got more with Jasmine guy when we come back don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Breakfast Club bitches! You were saying it was such a
Starting point is 00:16:58 privacy in the 90s so to get those stories from that era when she talks about you and Pac and just y'all friendship, just that friendship of Black Hollywood, it's just like, man. And I was like privileged enough to hang with them because they're so much younger than me. You know, it was just easy. You know, her birthday party
Starting point is 00:17:19 and we went to the Dragonfly, which was funk night that night. Oh, funk days was in that too. Oh, he was an auntie that night. I like me some funk, obviously. I'm like, it's Funk Night at a Dragonfly. But, and you know, accepting of me, because, well, I'm 62. So when I'm on the show, I'm 25, 26, 27. They 18, 19.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Now it's not a big deal. But back then, I wasn't hanging out with no you know I remember I went to a Restaurant with Cree and as we were walking to the restaurant she said do they card I said card I mean I'd never I had never been carded because 18 you know I said how old are you? She said I just turned 18. I said what the hell am I doing? You know, I said how old are you? She said I just turned 18. I said, what the hell am I doing? You know, we're 18 Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:18:11 Kadeem too. I saw them as kids. I like grown-ass men when I was young 30 32 But now that they have embraced me, I appreciate it. Because they kept me current and kept me interested. Because they, Jada and Kree, are out-the-box thinkers. They bring creative ideas to the table that I never would have thought of. And I love that. And of course, you know, Kree keeps me laughing. What about Pac?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Pac and I would like that too. He always had ideas. I felt so unaccomplished, you know, cause he would say something and then do it. I would tell him an idea and not write it and not finish it or it's still like on my shelf. Mostly I wanted him to know that I felt he was a great actor and I heard the murmurings of, oh he's just being himself or whatever, they're just riding
Starting point is 00:19:11 on his fame as a rapper. I said everybody that raps ain't acting on there. There were a lot of rappers that had movies. That man can act, you know. I mean his performances were after chain and I just wanted him to know that and not listen to that Are you afraid during that time like when you took pocket and after he got shot? Did you feel like what if they come looking for him and I'm here? Yeah, there were times because of the the regularity of my Going in and out of my apartment I felt like it would be easy if I had been on the radar
Starting point is 00:19:46 For anybody to you know follow me or come up and so there was that and I didn't live in a secured building like a doorman building and I was scared of The like I had never seen a real bullet wound just, you know, on TV like NYPD Blue and when I played a badass in this movie but I was concerned about that, you know, actually caring for the wounds and making sure he was going to be okay. So you had to nurse him back into being good? Yeah, he should have been in the hospital for at least two or three more days on antibiotics. I remember he just walked out, he signed himself out.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So you had to help him out and help him meet and help him get himself back together. When he left Bellevue, he went to his girlfriends and he realized it was equally accessible. He just felt like a sitting duck in the hospital. Yeah I'm sure you talk about this on Uncensored and this is my last question. When was the last time you spoke to him? Two weeks ago. Like before you died. Do you remember the last conversation you had last time you saw him? I was visiting a feignian
Starting point is 00:20:49 Stone mountain when they had a house there and he came through now. This is after he'd been in prison for 11 months So y'all this is quest love and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the story pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. -♪ Flash slam another one gone, bash bam another one gone,
Starting point is 00:21:34 the cracker, the bat and another one gone, the tip of the cap is another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudia's life and her family. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks
Starting point is 00:21:57 did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, he was called a goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good people, what's up? It's Quest-O, Questlove. And Team Supreme and I have been working hard to bring you some incredible episodes of Questlove Supreme with gifts you definitely don't want to miss. Now one of the things I love about this Questlove Supreme podcast is we got something for everybody, every type of musical ever. We enjoy speaking to the people who are the face of some movements, some people you've seen on stage or TV or magazine covers, but we also love speaking to the folks who are making it happen behind the scenes and they paved the way for those that followed, you
Starting point is 00:23:00 know, keystones to the culture. This season we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations like on PayPal chatting up with hit maker Sam Holland, shook Steve Chad with the legend Nick Lowe, and I've had pleasures doing one-on-one conversations with Willow, Sonata Matreah, Kathleen Hanna, and the RZA. These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else, so make sure you go back and you check those episodes out, all right? Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Hey, everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan, or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Film Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Alpha podcast, or whatever you get your podcast girl. Ooh, I know that's right.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests
Starting point is 00:24:33 and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty
Starting point is 00:25:02 crazy and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of our podcast, Ruthie's Table Four. There are many luxuries in life, but I have to say that going to see Ian McKellen was one of the great days of my life.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It's a joke that actors in the old days not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, oh, we're doing Chekhov. There's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Ruthie's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Been in for a while. Yeah, I saw a son at the house. That was the last time. You remember the conversation? and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there. and what not. Knuckles were all black from doing it on, you know, he wanted, I was like, yeah, you look good. And then he went out with his friends and, you know, I hung out with the Feeny. The thing that really hurt my feelings about him getting shot like that, when he was with me, I thought I was helping him go to the next part of his life. Like grow above, yeah. I was like, you're going gonna go to prison and then get
Starting point is 00:26:26 shot again and i knew that second shooting wasn't the wounds he had the first time were in his appendages not in his lungs i was so disappointed yeah and he told me he was gonna he wasn't going to make it past 25. I always thought he was just talking shit all the time. That's legend. Put that in the book. I was like, f*** I'm not writing a book about you. Stop telling me that. I feel like I'm never telling anybody anything about this experience.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I thought it was ridiculous for him to say he wasn't going to live past 25. I treated him like I treated my little cousins that make these statements about life. So that hurt. I can't wait for people to hear your story. You live the life, Ms. Guy. Y'all gotta watch Uncensored this Sunday. Sunday, March 24th. Always a pleasure when you come, Ms. Guy. We love you so much. Thank you for having me back in the witness studio. Sunday March 24th
Starting point is 00:27:31 You are a cultural icon we appreciate you so much we value you just thank you always that's right You miss jasmine guy. It's the breakfast club. Good morning Morning, everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club Jess is on maternity leave so long the roses filling in and we got some special guests in the building Yes, indeed. We have Morris Chestnut. He's here and we have M.A.R.T. Coronado. Did I say your name right? Well done. I gotta start like this. Emma does Charlamagne look anything like Morris Chestnut? I was just looking. I was just looking. Look. We're here to talk reasonable doubt to him. No, no. I want to start there because he's been talking so much. He thinks he's more a chest dog. Beyond reasonable doubt. Ask her that and then ask the question.
Starting point is 00:28:10 No, no, no. Beyond reasonable doubt. Does he look anything? I knew this was going to come up. I was prepared for this because I've heard. Squint your eyes a little bit. Now here's the thing. Cover one eye. Cover both eyes.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Both beautiful, chocolate bald bald-headed men. I see that resemblance. You see a resemblance? In that, what I just said. Oh, okay. You scared me for a second. In the factory model. Not the detail.
Starting point is 00:28:40 In what I said, yes. Now Morris, does it bother you when this brother over here that looks nothing like you claims that he's you for his birthday? He posts pictures of you. I'm telling you somebody came to me on the street. That's a lie! I said I'm dead. No, I wasn't on the street.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You're right. I was at a hotel. I was at the valet. And one of the valets came to me. That's what he said. He said, you look like Charlamagne. He said, yo, you Charlamagne. I don't know if he was trolling but he did say that.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You should have fought him, right? What's the problem? Was it a dimly lit valet area? He said, yo, you're Charlamagne. I don't know if he was trolling, but he did say that. You should have fought him, right? You should have fought him. What's the problem? Was it a dimly lit valet area? He had glasses. No, he didn't have glasses, you know, but it did happen. It did happen.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It did. Yeah, that didn't go the way y'all thought it would. Welcome, guys. How are you guys feeling? We're feeling fantastic. What roles excite you nowadays, Mars? Wow. You've been in the game so long.
Starting point is 00:29:29 You know what, this role did excite me. It really did. The one thing I love, first of all, she's incredible. I mean, she's incredible at what she does, incredible actress. I mean, she's incredible. But the whole production, so the production starts with On know, with Onyx Collective. We have, you know, black female executives there. And then, of course, Carrie Washington's company is producing.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Simpson Street. Simpson Street's producing it. Top notch there. Rahmah Muhammad, black female show runner. All the scripts were on time. Before, I'd never gotten scripts on a show like that this early. I would get a script, we would be on the second day
Starting point is 00:30:09 of an episode and get a script for the next episode that normally never happens. So everything was top of my head, then working with her and the cast, this role did excite me. Now for people that don't know, what is reasonable doubt about? Cause y'all on season two, so if they don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:22 what is it about? Break it down. You know, it's about this high powered, you know, black female attorney, you know, who is about her business, you know, she handles all of her business when she's when she's in the office, when she's in court, you know, but she's trying to juggle it. You know, she's a mother, she's a wife. And sometimes, you know, some of the balls drop out of the air.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You know what I mean? She she fails at times. She makes questionable decisions, makes mistakes at times, you know, but it's about this woman, it's about this marriage, this black marriage, you know, we get to see them trying to figure it out. We get to see them making mistakes. We get to see them, you know, really living their life in this way that we don't often get to see on television, along with the courtroom drama of it all, you know, we get to see her really in her element because the show is loosely based on Sean Holly. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I knew that. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, she's a very high powered defense attorney in LA. You know, so we have all of those elements. It's a good blend of the courtroom drama with the character driven kind of piece. When you say handle that business in court, is that all the place you're handling the business?
Starting point is 00:31:24 I mean, she does what she got to do. Anywhere. Anywhere and everywhere. Did you sit with Shawn? Did you spend any time with Shawn? Oh yes. Oh yeah. Before we started filming, she invited me to her home and we sat and we talked for hours.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I got to really pick her brain about how she chooses the cases that she decides to take on because that's the thing. We really, I think, nailed that in the show with the kinds of cases that Jax chooses to accept can sometimes cause issue with her friends or her family. You know, why are you not defending black women? Why did you choose to defend this man? And that's what Sean is about, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:58 And that's something that I admired and wanted to know a little bit more about what goes into her selecting the kind of cases that she chooses to represent. Is it hard to leave your character on set? Is it hard? No, no. I've learned how to just make the separation. I've learned how to make the separation and especially with someone like Jax, you know, she has a lot going on, you know, so I'm thankful to just leave that there and go home to normalcy. You know I wanted to ask actors, like when you have to play a traumatic
Starting point is 00:32:24 scene, right, like when Ricky gets killed and boys in the hood being that they play that so much on TV does that trigger you when you see it like do you feel that doesn't trigger me. One thing that did trigger me when I did the first best man it was the first time that I had to be such an emotional space when I did a wedding scene I was crying and I had to be in an emotional space for so long that triggered me for just even thinking about it for at least at least five to seven years. What about when y'all did the TV show when the writers dead?
Starting point is 00:32:54 See I was see I had already you know as an actor I had grown and I kind of let some stuff you know it's you know as actors you know we use our trauma and our pain to get there so I you know I kind of worked on that. But it triggered me for a long time, on the first best man. Did you ever get tired of it? Because Boys of the Hood was so long ago. Did you ever realize how impactful that was gonna be
Starting point is 00:33:16 when you shot it? I didn't, I didn't. I had no clue because when I, I mean, I was a lead in the movie that nobody knew who I was. And no one knew who Cuba was, people knew who Ice Cube was, Angela wasn't Angela, Nia wasn't Nia, I mean, everybody was just popping off.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So I didn't think it was gonna be that big, nah. That's interesting what you said about the best man because being a role when the TV show came where in that iteration of it, you know, your wife was deceased. Yes. You had to tap into that emotion of being a man who lost their wife.
Starting point is 00:33:50 How did you leave that at home? Well so it's uh. Or leave that on the set rather. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's uh, okay so that was the first best man that had that. So the second best man was tough because she was battling cancer
Starting point is 00:34:02 and I had to do a lot of emotional scenes then. So I've just learned to manage kind of those emotions I've learned to deal with some of that trauma in a different way now and actually say it's actually acting is pretty much therapeutic because you're able to release certain things and so over the years that's that's what's happened were you a fan of reasonable doubt season one? Yeah I was because I literally I was because I literally, I was playing a Saturday basketball game
Starting point is 00:34:28 and one of the guys there, he was like, oh he said, normally after we play, we talk about stupid stuff, dude stuff in the gym or whatever and then he just said, hey, have you guys seen the show Reasonable Doubt? And I knew about the show because I knew Ely was on it, I knew Emiyasi was on it but I hadn't seen it yet. He was like, man, it was just so odd
Starting point is 00:34:45 to hear him say that on the court. You know what I'm saying? And so he said, you gotta check it out. So yeah, so before I did the show, I was definitely a fan, because I watched it because he told me to. And what was harder for you, because Jax is different season one versus season two,
Starting point is 00:34:57 what was the harder draw for you as an actress, like pulling from the experiences? Was it harder for season one or harder for season two for you? I think I would definitely say season two just because of, you know, she's showing a lot more vulnerability as a result of what happened in season one. Yes. You know, so that just it required just like Morris was saying, you know, I got a pull from some of those places, you know, that kind of thing. So it was more of a challenge in that way. You know, I had to decide to open myself up. Alright, we got more with Morris Chestnut and Emma Yatsey when we come back to Don't
Starting point is 00:35:29 Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Morris Chestnut and Emma Yatsey, Coronaldi. Of course, Reasonable Doubt Season 2 is on Hulu, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Now Emma, you started off in soap operas. Most people never leave that soap opera world but you did. So break down the soap opera world and what got you into soap opera. First I want to know how you got into acting because you're a military child. Yeah. Usually that means you're traveling all over the place your parents are heavy into education. What got you into acting from the start? It was something that I always loved. I always loved but I didn't know that it could be a choice to be a career, you know, and for a long time it was just fun, just a hobby, and I thought that I had it planned out. I was going to go to
Starting point is 00:36:15 law school, I was going to be a lawyer, my father wanted me to go to the military, but I said, okay, I think I'm gonna be a lawyer, but in high school I had a girlfriend who also wanted to be a lawyer. And we had our whole plan. It was going to be Cornelde and Sweeney, Incorporated. You know, but I realized, thankfully, before, you know, graduation, OK, no, I don't really want to be a lawyer. I'm not trying to go to law school.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Like she was taking it serious. And a lot of these SATs, I'm like, I'm not doing all that. Is she a lawyer now? She's a lawyer. And she's a lawyer. So we went in the right path. I realized, no, I think I just, I like the drama. I like the suits and you know, all of that in the courtroom. And so that's the moment when I knew and I kind of started pursuing it at that point.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And this was in, I graduated high school in Jersey. My last two years were out there in Kansas. I was all over the place and then went back to Jersey and really started studying and back and forth up here to New York on my off-off-off Broadway classes and all of that And then that was it that was it and in my first role Was that that role in Young and the Restless and that was because that was my mom's show and she said to her You know that was me making it that you made it
Starting point is 00:37:20 When you don't have so Bob says you gotta get him young and a reckless around the rest listen tell Victor I said hi. And so the bittersweet moment about that for me is because my mom passed before that happened, before she got to see. And so as soon as I got on the set, I said, Victor, I just gotta tell you, you know, my mom just loves you.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So, and that was a small, that was a really small role. And I think that's how I, the reason why I didn't get caught up in it and staying there, because it was a small role, but it was truly one of the most meaningful ones to me to this day because of that. Oh wow, that's so aligned for you. Your first scene, Morris, is a sex scene.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Right, right, right. Do you ever have to tell these studios not to objectify you? Because we heard Mephimean once say he always pushed back against his sex symbol status. Do you ever have to tell these look, you know, I know I'm Mars chestnut. You can't be We would know the difference I do you ever feel like you're being objectified maybe is a better question I don't see that that way, you know, it's almost like because people sometimes they ask me they say Do you get mad when people call you Ricky all the time, when people see me on the street?
Starting point is 00:38:25 And honestly, the one thing about me is I have never, ever forgotten where I come from, right? And when I was an actor, just starting out, trying to get an agent, just trying to get a part, just saying, oh, please, somebody cast me. I just want to be seen, I want to be known so I can get more work. And so it just so happens that that role that I was dying to get to be able to get more work
Starting point is 00:38:49 Was a role that it was it was it was a blessing that it's still Relevant and people still refer to it to this very day. So now just because people say Ricky almost every day I'm not gonna turn around and say oh man I hate when people call me Ricky because because I would desire it so much. So to your question about studios, I don't think they objectify me. I think that, I've been in the business a long time, and the younger Morris would not have imagined
Starting point is 00:39:19 that he would be here to this very single day after all these years. So I'm just blessed and I'm very appreciative of the fact that they still wanna cast me. Because in our industry, you know, no one really retires from our industry. Our industry retires us. The phone stops ringing.
Starting point is 00:39:39 So as long as the phone's still ringing, I'ma keep picking up and I appreciate it. But it's one thing to be a great actor, which you are, but it's another to be considered a heartthrob, right? It's only like a kind of, it's like Denzel, Morris, who else fits in that lane, Lauren? Like historically. Omar Epps was there.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Not like Morris and Denzel. Michael B. Jordan. Michael B., yeah, he was there. He kind of faded out, no. Blandwood, okay. Blandwood, yeah. From Queen Sugar, Dark Skin, Queen Sugar. Boris Cold, Joe. Kofi, Kofi, Kofi is the, he's the same? From Queen Sugar, dark skinned Queen Sugar. Boris Cold Joe?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Coffee, coffee, coffee. Coffee is the, he's there. Calm down, Lauren. Calm down. Where we at right now, but I think honestly you didn't, it's y'all level of, it's like maybe two or three that are the go-tos. It's mainly you though, like you get, you do get a lot of the posts and stuff online. A lot of them come from Charlamagne's Instagram.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Shut up. I think to answer to that question is for me, I don't focus on it because this is the type of industry, there's going to be somebody else tomorrow. There's going to be somebody else the next day. So I just focus, honestly, I just try to focus on doing the best job I can as an actor with each job and if that comes with it I'm appreciative of it if that's what people say I'm appreciative of that but I don't I don't focus on that I just have to focus on the work because that's gonna keep me
Starting point is 00:40:56 here longer than being you know if people consider it sex symbol. The real Morris Chestnut was the sexiest man alive in 2015 the reason I got to say that is because sometimes he puts his face there and acts like that. I've never done that. If you wanted to call him the sexiest man alive in 2015. The reason I gotta say that is because sometimes he puts his face there and acts like... I've never done that. If you wanted to call him the sexiest man alive, that's fine. If you want to use me to do that, that's fine. I've never done that. I was gonna ask...
Starting point is 00:41:14 That was wild. You have to pay for it to me. That was wild. Are we here? What's going on here? I was gonna ask, how does your wife deal with it all? You know, with women hollering when you're loud and the comments, how does she handle it?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Well, I mean, my wife is a star in our family, for sure. I mean, she's the one that, I mean, she's a star in the family. And she knows, and I'm a homebody, I'm home all the time. And honestly, the older I've gotten, you know, I mean, she's just not even, she's not stressed by it, she's not even, she's just not even she's not stressed by it
Starting point is 00:41:45 She's not even she's just not she's not really interested in industry She it's like we've been together a long long time and so you know she knows what it is You know I'm not going nowhere Hopefully she's not going anywhere, but uh it's she's cool. What about your kids? Oh? That's a good. That's an interesting question. We've never really had the conversation about it. My son has made comments about it. Does he have jokes? No, no, he doesn't, he doesn't have jokes.
Starting point is 00:42:13 He doesn't have jokes about it. What are the comments that he's making to you? Well, so, that's a good question. We have my son, and my son's 26 years old right now. He's just turning 27. And we just basically have a lot of father son conversations and my conversations are more geared towards preparing him for life and trying to get him to see
Starting point is 00:42:39 the world from different perspectives. Primarily from a business perspective, a young man who's going to be taking care of a family perspective. And he'll make comments just in terms of when I'm trying to explain certain things to him, how things go in life, he feels sometimes he'll make a comment like, well, you haven't had to deal with such and such-such because such-and-such You know, but you know and I keep having to tell him I keep having to remind him that You know, I you know, I slept in a room my brother till we went to college and we couldn't even open the door We're so tight in the room. We have bunk beds with the bunk bed down
Starting point is 00:43:19 We couldn't even open the door. So I didn't I didn't I wasn't born into this, into this. And so there's a lot of discipline and hard work that has, and a blessing from God, but discipline and hard work that has me where I am today. All right, we got more with Morris Chesna and Emma Yatsey-Cornaldi when we come back. Don't move, it's The Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning everybody, it's the EJNV Jess Larry, Charlamagne the God, we are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Lorne LaRosa filling in for Jess. And we're still kicking it with Emma Yatsey-Coronado and Morris Chestnut. Of course, Reasonable Doubt Season Two is on Hulu now. Charlamagne? What did y'all two learn from each other on set? Ooh, well, I would say I definitely learned, you know, when they asked me how I felt about Morris
Starting point is 00:44:02 coming onto the show. Number one, I was just excited. I mean, it's Morris the chestnut. I mean, it's true, you know, just, it's just he brings a level of professionalism and ease, but yet very just approachable and kind and giving, you know what I mean? In a way that you just may not expect for someone who's been in the business for so long, for someone who knows that they have this particular status, you know what I mean, but he didn't have any of that, you know, so I definitely just appreciated and respected that, you know, about you.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And I appreciate, so the one thing, you know, on a set, the number one on the call sheet is the heartbeat of the set. The set goes, the number one on the call sheet is the heartbeat of the set. The set goes how the number one goes. If the number one's not feeling good today, the set's not gonna have a good day. If the number one's not a good person, it's not a set that you wanna be on. She is literally one of the best number ones
Starting point is 00:44:59 that I've ever worked with. She, I mean this is so hard because when you come to a set, you know, we have the scenes, we have our lines and we have to worry about our character. She knew everybody's name on the set. Everybody's name. And I've been on set, I've been on set right now for six months. I still only know probably about seven names out of like a hundred people. And that was just so impressive to me. And she was really inspiring to me, just to see how she was doing that. And she made me mad one day,
Starting point is 00:45:28 because I always like to be, when they call us to set, I like to be the first one there. And she beat me one time, I said, oh, I can't have that. I cannot have her beat me to set. Because I gotta be there. Yeah, I said, I can't have that.
Starting point is 00:45:39 So she's just, in everything that she does, and she, with all of that, she had her daughter there, she's taking care of her daughter, she does and she with all of that, you know, she had a daughter there. She's taking care of her daughter. She has, you know, she's carrying the load on this show. She did it so gracefully, eloquently and just an incredible actress. So I just have a huge she's inspiring.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Now is there somebody you talked about number ones? Is there somebody that you say, no matter how much they pay you without saying names that you just won't do a movie with them because they just don't act right? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, I have. Sup, y'all. This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages.
Starting point is 00:46:35 One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone.
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Starting point is 00:47:51 Good people, what's up? It's Quest-O, Questlove. And Team Supreme and I have been working hard to bring you some incredible episodes of Questlove Supreme with gifts you definitely don't want to miss. Now, one of the things I love about this Quest Love Supreme podcast is we got something for everybody, every type of musical ever. We enjoy speaking to the people who are the face of some movements, some people you've
Starting point is 00:48:14 seen on stage or TV or magazine covers, but we also love speaking to the folks who are making it happen behind the scenes and they paved the way for those that followed, you know, keystones to the culture. This season we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations, like on PayPal chatting up with hit maker Sam Holland, shook a Steve Chad with the legend Nick Lowe, and I've had pleasures of doing one-on-one conversations with Willow, Sonata Matreya, Kathleen Hanna, and The RZA. These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else.
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Starting point is 00:50:46 was one of the great days of my life. It's a joke that actors in the old days of not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, we're doing Chekhov. There's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Rupi's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there. He said, what's that? I have one.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah, he doesn't, I'm not sure if he's, I don't think he's done anything too much lately, but yeah, it can be really, really, really bad set. It's just not a good, it's not a working, it's not a free working environment to be an artist when you have everyone walking on eggshells and this person just dictates the whole mood
Starting point is 00:51:37 just of the set and it just makes it so challenging not even to just do your job, just to even be there because we spend 12 13 hours a day It's like a family, you know, you fit spend more time on the set than you do your family. So yeah So let me answer you have a question for you I had heard Erica Alexander talk about how and black women play strong roles on TV. It boxes them in it's like a good thing Cuz your representation but it can be a bad thing because it boxes you into this like, you always have that power, you always have to be tough and rough. Do you think about that when you're picking roles? I know, because Jax is becoming
Starting point is 00:52:11 a household now, household name now, and people love the show. Do you think about that? Do you think how that will affect you? Has that been, you know, something that you and your team have talked about? You know, I understand what she's saying about that, because that is, you know, it's it's almost can even be a stigma even that's placed upon us as black women. But it's not something that I think about because there is an element of it that is true. It's there.
Starting point is 00:52:33 We are strong. We've had to be strong for so long for so many reasons. So you know, it's not something that I feel like I have to lead with or something that I have to be cognizant of. Because I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me in that way. You know what I mean? And so I think I do choose roles, not necessarily, if I see a role and it says,
Starting point is 00:52:54 okay, she's a strong woman, what have you. You know, I know I'm gonna put my own spin on it, and I may not feel like she's strong in the way that they think she's strong. You know what I mean? So I can make a different interpretation on it. I know y'all got it, I got my final question. Other than when I'm around, Mars, do you ever walk in the room and say I'm the most handsome man in the room? No, no, I never said that.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You did say that one day when we were... He did? I'm gonna make her out of here. one day when we were obviously you were in the family feud video right JC family yes how were you casting for that are you cool with the fam or how did that happen Ava Ava because Ava directed it. I think that's how we met we met at Ava's house Ava's house yeah yeah we did. You didn't think we did. You remember when you were there? Be honest. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I didn't. I didn't. You thought it was the house. I didn't. You thought it was the house. I was like, what, five years ago? Five, six years ago? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:53:55 You're watching a movie or something. You know the fight. The fight. Mayweather, Conor McGrady and the Knight. That's what it was. But yeah, that's how that came about where Ava was the director. Gotcha. Well, we appreciate it. I know you guys gotta run. I wanna say something to you guys. That's what it was. But yeah, that's how that came about with Ava was the director. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Well, we appreciate it. I know you guys got to run. I want to say something to you guys. I really appreciate what you guys are doing for the culture. I mean, I see the guests you guys have on, I see the topics that you guys talk about and I appreciate what you guys are doing because especially now in our community, you talk about therapy a lot. I love that.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You guys bring up current topic, current event topics, politics. And so you guys guys are I was really excited to come back because I've been here before but I was really excited to come back Because I appreciate you guys what you guys are doing for the culture. So thank you guys Thank you very much. Yeah, reasonable doubt season two is out now on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen It's the Breakfast Club is Morris chestnut and Emma. Yati Coronado. Thank you so much Thank you This club the morning time for Donkey of the Day. It's a read, but you're so good at it. You're trying to be a fake ass Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You're the only one Charlemagne in the world. Charlemagne. Damn Charlemagne. Who you give a ducky of the day to now? Yes, Donkey of the Day goes to a 21 year old woman named Juniper Bryson. And she's been charged with the sale or purchase of a child. And she is currently being held on a $30,000 bond because she tried to sell her child on Facebook. Let's go to ABC 13 eyewitness news for the report, please.
Starting point is 00:55:12 She led us on to believe that we were chosen. Wendy Williams and her husband were one of many families, according to court records, hopeful to be the parents of this beautiful baby boy born on September 24th. The only difference between Williams and the other families is she was in the delivery room with 21 year old Juniper Bryson. Williams didn't know Bryson, neither did the other prospective parents. They just responded to Facebook posts asking for someone to adopt Bryson's baby. Bryson chose Williams. She believes because she was local and Bryson went into labor early. She stayed at the hospital for three days with Bryson and the newborn who tested positive
Starting point is 00:55:47 for drugs, according to court records. But then Williams says she started getting messages on Facebook from people saying Bryson was trying to sell the baby. After finding out what she did, Williams contacted CPS and police were called. Investigators obtained conversations with at least seven people on social media where they say Bryson was asking for money in exchange for the baby, including this one where she says, quote, I'd ask for a minimum of 150 bucks up front. That's it. 150. I got to get a discount off the baby test positive for drugs. Okay. So meth little crack baby.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I'm not paying 150. Yeah. A hundred dollars. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Now look, she's 21 years old, and I have a theory that after the year 2000, they really just started making any old kind of human. Okay, I think God sold the company. The company that makes humans, God sold it. Let them keep the name, the designs, but the ingredients don't hit the same.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Now don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna sit here and act like the humans I grew up with was much better. Okay, I grew up in an era where some humans would have babies and then throw the babies in a dumpster. Tupac wrote a whole song about it, Brenda's got a baby, and that was based on a true story. So I'm not gonna sit here and act wholly in it now, but this is exactly why women should be able
Starting point is 00:56:55 to have abortions if they want one. Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws in the country. Abortion is completely banned, except for limited circumstances. So this 21-year-old girl has to carry the term. She reaches out to a family connection asking if they know any families looking to adopt. Imagine looking for a plug for adoption. That's what she did. She was looking for a plug for adoption. Adoption booster. Exactly. And she didn't even go about the
Starting point is 00:57:18 process of doing the adoption right. So she ended up putting her baby on Facebook marketplace. You can buy furniture, home decor, rugs and newborn babies all on Facebook Marketplace now I asked Lauren LaRosa earlier if there was any newborn babies on Facebook Marketplace I just asked you to look I don't know maybe this is normal and we don't know about it I see none I also checked sheen baby baby come get this baby I checked Tmoo for baby daddy I ain't seen none of them available okay okay now what's interesting to me about this situation is I checked Tmoo for baby daddy, I ain't seen none of them available. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Now what's interesting to me about this situation is Juniper posted in a Facebook group aimed at connecting birth mothers with prospective adoptive parents. So you know she indicated that she was located in Houston but willing to travel if an arrangement could be made. This poor girl really thought that this is how this works. Okay, I just get in a Facebook group with mothers looking to be adoptive parents and I sell this seven pound four ounce bundle of joy to the highest bidder. She was literally at the hospital waiting
Starting point is 00:58:15 for the highest bidder. You had to pay extra for the placenta but she would sell you the newborn below market rate. Now authorities were notified after social media users raised concerns about the legitimacy of the adoption. I've never claimed to be the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but unless something has changed drastically in the world, no adoptions happen on Facebook. You just heard Lauren say you can't go on Facebook Marketplace to buy your baby. They don't have no babies for sale. And you don't get paid for adopting a child and it's illegal to receive payment for putting a child up for adoption So it's nothing left to see here folks. Please give Juniper Juniper Bryson of Houston, Texas the biggest, EHA
Starting point is 00:58:55 Now just you know Hypothetically if you were to buy a newborn Where would you want it from Tmoo machine? Hmm I probably go Sheen. Sheen, right? Yeah, I feel like I know more people who've ordered off of Sheen, so my baby would be legit. Yeah, and then you know with T-Mu,
Starting point is 00:59:13 if they show you the picture of the baby, the baby ain't gonna look the way it looked when you get it. Yeah, I feel like Sheen, you can like, you know, how you wait until you post photos of your baby to all the features and all that coming, how they be waiting. With Sheen she I think they would show you all that like you will get the before the after you get to know who the dad is all that
Starting point is 00:59:30 yeah you know what a little team will face baby little team will face baby and be where you order from forever forever well 21 where you get your wigs from that's how I get it oh it's from anitra's service artistry you know custom unit custom-made unit don't never order a baby from Baby from there, she don't make babies. She made beautiful units. It's busy. I know that's right The girls from Delaware get busy with the hands. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today The Breakfast Club donkey today. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess
Starting point is 01:00:13 and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We got Jaleel White welcome. How you feeling man? I'm doing great man, I'm in a good mood. Good to see you brother. Good to see you brother, you got your new book, Growing Up Urkel, a memoir. I've always loved your story though because you are the epitome of taking advantage of a moment. Seizing the opportunity, right? Because you were only supposed to be on one episode. One episode.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Of Family Matters. How'd that happen? Again, shout out to me, I was just a black kid at one of the Sega Genesis, dog. It really wasn't that deep. My dad told me that I could get one of anything whenever I got a job because I was resisting going on auditions at this point. I was five foot four me was ready to play basketball. We don't get in basketball talks. And I wasn't booking jobs at age 12 too much because a lot of the stereotypical roles I just
Starting point is 01:00:59 wasn't fitting it. My profile I had like I said I had braces on five foot four and I saw this audition come through and I was like I can get this job. What was it? What did it say? The description I included in the book was just you know nerdy character Rick. Matter of fact I was described as a Rick Moranis type. So that just shows you what the writers room was already doing. They're casting a black kid and asking for a Rick Moranis type so I actually read that literally and then I went and got the best of Saturday Night Live VHS tape that we had in our house and I found Ed Grimley and I basically was doing a black kid's version
Starting point is 01:01:34 of Ed Grimley and it wasn't really a good impersonation quite frankly but because nobody thought that was my inspiration, it became mine. Did you get the Sega Genesis? I was always curious. Of course I got that Sega Genesis. Did you want to act? Acting was just something that I just did naturally. I've been doing it since I was three. So you know did you want to do anything that your parents got you started when you were three? It just came naturally. I didn't resist it and I enjoyed it. Of course you always enjoyed it, enjoyed getting a day off of school to go someplace and yeah exactly and have some fun.
Starting point is 01:02:05 But as I got to be around the age of 12, I didn't really want to act anymore. I wanted to play basketball. But once I got the show, then I started getting reps in at a different pace. And now once you get reps in, you prove yourself good at something, proficient. I remember the exact episode where I'm like, oh, this is fun. And this audience is my toy. And the episode's called The Big Fix, where I took Laura on a date for the first time because Eddie needed to pay off a bet.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And I leveled this French restaurant. Now before we get to- Oh my God, I remember that episode too. Yeah, that's the first episode where I'm like, I can hear the audience different. I can see it in my eyes when I watch the episode. Before we get into that part of it, is it true that you tried out for Rudy Huxtable that part? Yeah I did. That's what name Rudy was
Starting point is 01:02:48 for boy. Oh wow. It was for boy. So there was a debate there and you know he obviously won out over the network at the end and uh and Keisha got the role. How close did you get? Oh it came down to me and her. That's it. They auditioned us all day. I actually never forget that audition. They always bring in like two or three options for each role But they put us in one room for like several hours and kept pairing us and going in and out and at the end They said hey listen, we are pressed for time. So we will take you you you and you and the rest of you Thank you for coming out. So you had all these crying kids Mm-hmm just pouring out of that building that had been there all day
Starting point is 01:03:22 And I remember my mom was like she just had a of that building that had been there all day. And I remember my mom was like, she just had a huge reaction to that. She was like, if you ever react like that, you're losing an audition again. Oh, you cried, you was bawling. Oh, we've, I mean, that's a cold way to lose a job when you're seven years old. Did you really understand though? To be picked right in front, you know, right in front. Because generally it happened, you know, your agent will call you or your agent didn't call you.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And my mom was never the type to call the agent also and be like, did we or did we not get the job? And a lot of parents do that. But did you really understand at seven years old, like, oh my God, I'm losing this job. This is like what this could be. You were just like a kid and it was like, no. So you cried. Like, what did you think? No, well, we were supposed to move to New York. Oh, so they were they had already talked to my parents through our agent and everything. And my dad was trying to figure out, because he was just graduating from dental school at the time.
Starting point is 01:04:08 My dad was trying to figure out how to do this from New York. They had practically said the job is yours. And then a little girl came walking in. I mean, they do that kind of stuff all the time now that I'm adult and I know that. But at the time it was just, it was just very shocking. And then you become a big fan of the show. Right? So you're looking at the show and it's like oh man
Starting point is 01:04:25 I could be me You're doing that but that passes too. Yeah, especially when you end up with your own iconic role in the future, right? I didn't even look at it that way. Seriously. I just during that time Sean I'm telling you Mattis is wild to watch fame now because Everybody kind of believes like they can have a famous moment and it should come easy to them But back then like, you know, if you got a chance to meet Magic Johnson everybody kind of believes like they can have a famous moment and it should come easy to them. But back then, like, you know, if you got a chance to meet Magic Johnson, you got a chance to meet Janet Jackson in person, they were inaccessible.
Starting point is 01:04:51 They were all talented. They were, you know, they there was an aura literally. I remember the time I met Michael Jordan for the first time and he crept up behind me at the Magic Johnson Midsummer Nights Classic. And it's just like, he literally had like this little glow around him, this Black Jesus glow around him. And it's different now, it really is. So you didn't think you could be that, you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:11 No. I don't think there is real celebrity now. Oh now, no, celebrity has completely been diluted. Yeah. It really is. I'll disagree and say there's still some people who have it. I can see it, there's certain people where they walk in and they have that natural it factor where it's like, okay, you just you affect the room
Starting point is 01:05:26 You know I'm saying like even when Will Smith used to come in for the NBA All-Star Games when will was in the room It was just different. That's his aura though. Yeah, exactly So but that's but that's traditional celebrity this stuff now Like I said, it's just it could feel real temporary and it's like you ain't got the it factor But you got the light on you right to the cast like you because you went from Just supposed to be in on one episode to taking over the whole thing So did they like it had to be some resentment a little bit It's like a kid nor nerdy kid coming in here like I said it was it was it was weird at first
Starting point is 01:05:57 the kids and I we worked it out the easiest because They had to hear a lot of things some of their parents are even saying and you know when you're a kid and you're hearing What your parents are saying, you're just gonna follow suit with that. But Darius and Kelly and I, we became brothers and sisters. That's our puberty. So I just feel like the division really kind of took place more along the lines of the adults were the adults
Starting point is 01:06:16 and the kids were the kids. You would think that at some point in life, people would understand that y'all are a team. And it doesn't matter who the star of the team is, if the team is winning. Yeah, but the magic words you say is you would think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I would just say, I mean, after all of these years,
Starting point is 01:06:30 we haven't learned that, even when you use the Shaq and Kobe example. That's, you know, you can't change the way people are gonna think when they're coming from a place of ego. You know, I did a lot to extend our run because the reality was we- The show was about to get canceled. I know, but there was-
Starting point is 01:06:42 It's a fact. I get it. You can say that, I don't need to lean in on that, you know, but there's a fact. I get it. You can say that. I don't need to lean in on that, you know, but you know, whether if it was keeping my hair cut the same way, I mean, it got to the point where I was sick of my own haircut or staying out of the gym, not working out, you know, that sucked from playing basketball. And finally in my scene, they made you change the pants that you were wearing. Yeah, they made me change the final season.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It was like no more jeans. He doesn't wear any jeans. So I was doing things that was, I thought that was good. That won't, I was doing things that was He wants to talk about your balls. I want to be I want him I was getting there. I was gonna finish the statement you jump to the bulge And work it out, but it was come to the pack Y'all don't get to sit here. He a wild boy. He gives it off. So back to the bulge. They changed bottom line.
Starting point is 01:07:48 They just said no jeans in the final season. Yeah. That was it. Oh, they didn't tell you why. They said no jeans in the final season. They said the bulge. They did tell you that. They said it was getting a little awkward to see the bulge. That's what the poll said. Jesus. They said no jeans in the final season. Do they come to your parents and say that, or do they come directly to you? No, at that point, I mean, come on. I'm on set, and I'm getting notes from producers. I didn't see that note.
Starting point is 01:08:11 What? You didn't see what? That's a funny ass note to tell somebody. That is an uncomfortable note. Jaleel's like, where did I look into that? I feel like you said that in private. You pulled my family to the side, and we have a very close discussion.
Starting point is 01:08:24 We'll talk about your son's bulge. What? Wild, B. All right, we got more with Jaleo White, aka Steve Urkel. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. We're still kicking it with Jaleo White, you know, Steve Urkel. Now we were talking about when you were turning into the star, right? So at first you didn't have a dress room. Now you got the biggest dress room. So how was that change? Ugh, I mean. Then money, I'm sorry, money change? Well, the thing about money, which was cool, is that my mom was so petrified the show would get canceled anyway that she never bought a new car for the first four seasons of the
Starting point is 01:09:04 show. Oh wow. You know my mom was that I think that's why I'm so passionate about the protective job that my parents did. They did so much to try to keep me attached to normal life. Right. You know they didn't get new cars themselves. My mom demanded that I went to public school. I went to public school during the entire time. That's Steve Virgo at that time? Yeah, but we didn't have cell phones. We didn't have all, well we had cell phones, but they were big bricks at that time. But we didn't have smartphones to invade the privacy to that degree and let everybody know
Starting point is 01:09:34 what school he goes to, at least on a nationwide level. So I would pop into school every two weeks to three weeks, and that was something I actually enjoyed doing, kind of like a magic trick. I could go in and I could take tests I could raise my hand I could answer questions from the teacher and my peers are looking at me like how do you know this stuff is like I study on set too. How was school? Did you ever get bullied because people looked at you? Oh yeah, no there's a whole thing. It was like the first school I was attending at the time I was the only
Starting point is 01:10:01 black kid at the entire school which was awkward too. It was it was it was half Asian it was half white and now it's since taken over all Asian when I go back and pass that school. And you know, that's all the usual stuff. Can I touch your hair? And you know, not getting invited to Bob Mitzvah's and all that kind of stuff. And then that all changed as soon as I got on the show. Hey, you want to go to the liquor game with me?
Starting point is 01:10:20 And you know, my mom wants your agent number. She's thinking about putting me in the business and now I'm suddenly so popular So I left that school and then I went to what I like to call like, you know the Joe Clark school the lean on me light in that case I was just I stood out a little too much and It also raised my hand too much and I had a teacher that liked me and I like this last of the two And you know the schools like that. They don't like those kind of relationships So ran into problems there and then my mom found the school that was the porch that was just warm enough for me and in three bears story analogy
Starting point is 01:10:50 and that was South Pasadena High School and they kind of had a sprinkle of everybody. It was Asian, it was Mexican, it was black, it was wonderful and I had a great principal named Ben Ramirez, may he rest in peace, who just you know kind of went out of his way to make sure that I was always welcome on campus. So because even in your book you talk about having your dressing room kind of like set up like an NBA locker room. Yeah, I had my dressing room. My dressing room was cool. My dressing room.
Starting point is 01:11:12 You really wanted to go to the NBA? Like that was like really- I don't think it was about going to the NBA. I was a huge, I mean listen, if you grew up in the 90s, the NBA just was different. It landed on your life, man. It was everything. Gotcha. So I, you know, once I started gaining some influence, you could do certain things
Starting point is 01:11:26 in the set decorator for our show, transformed. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
Starting point is 01:12:00 for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. ["History to Life"] Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip, but a cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure
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Starting point is 01:12:38 Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good people, what's up? It's Quest-O, Questlove.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And Team Supreme and I have been working hard to bring you some incredible episodes of Questlove Supreme with gifts you definitely don't want to miss. Now, one of the things I love about this Questlove Supreme podcast is we got something for everybody, every type of musical ever. We enjoy speaking to the people who are the face of some movement, some people you've seen on stage or TV or magazine covers, but we also love speaking to the folks who were making it happen behind the scenes and they paved the way for those that followed. You know, keystones to the culture.
Starting point is 01:13:34 This season, we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations, like on PayPal, chatting up with hit maker Sam Holland, shook a Steve Chad with the legend Nick Lowe, and I've had pleasures of doing one-on-one conversations with Willow, Sonata Matreya, Kathleen Hanna, and The RZA. These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else, so make sure you go back and you check those episodes out, all right?
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Starting point is 01:15:32 into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy holidays from me, Michael Rapoport, and my gift to you is a free subscription to the I Am Rapoport Stereo podcast, where I discuss entertainment, sports, politics, and anything and everything that catches my attention. I am here to call it as I see it and there's a whole lot of things catching my eyes these days. Here's a clip from one of my favorite episodes. You are not a real fighter. You will never be discussed anywhere in
Starting point is 01:16:17 boxing history. Ever. Fake Paul. The movie is The Apprentice and the movie is about young Donald Trump and his apprentice Roy Cohen, real character obviously both real characters. It kind of has a Scarface vibe to it, which I thought was very interesting. Listen to the I Am Rap Report Stereo podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, and wherever you get your podcast. The second room in my dressing room into an actual NBA locker room. So I had all the different lockers. That's dope.
Starting point is 01:16:53 And that's where I would change and get ready for the show. Wow. You know what I wanted to, did the cast members on Family Matters, was it a level of hate and jealousy and enviness, enviness, enviness, or? Envious. Envy. Envy, yeah, it was like, Envy. You know what I mean. Or? Y? Envious, envious, envious, R. Envious, envious, I'm sorry. Envious, yeah, it was like.
Starting point is 01:17:06 You know what I mean. R. Y'all saw, this your chance to get him. You jump on him now. R in hindsight, are you really difficult to work with? No, absolutely not. Okay. You know, I.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Because Reverend Genevievelle Johnson said that. Okay, but okay, so let me make it easy for you then. How come you never heard that from the kids? Kelly speaks, Darius is everywhere. Darius is everywhere. How come you never heard that from the kids? Yeah Speaks, Darius is everywhere. Darius is everywhere. How come you never heard that from the kids? Yeah. You know, when you leave a show, first of all, the difference between movie stardom and TV stardom is when you're a movie star, you're still a star, even if you don't have a movie out.
Starting point is 01:17:35 When you're a TV star, unless you're on TV, you're not a star. And that's just the way the business treats you. So I think people go through a lot of personal trauma sometimes after a show has gone off the air,orces, investments maybe didn't go right, etc, etc. And it causes people to look back on things with kind of a jaded look. And it was like, man, we had fun. We did. Even the pictures I picked out for the book, you know, I wanted to show pictures of us chilling. You know, I wanted to show me, Reggie and Darius, you know, chilling in Paris when we shot two episodes in Paris. We're the only black show to ever shoot in Europe. That was a big deal.
Starting point is 01:18:05 We had this, I'll never forget, we had this giant $12,000 meal at the top of the Eiffel Tower as a cast. Oh, I'm glad you asked. My mom took that bill to hand it to production because she had the clout to do that. But JoBurri's there, Reggie's there, well we was ballin' at the top, but again, you ballin'.
Starting point is 01:18:23 So, you know, it's almost kind of like when you hear Scottie Pittman talking about the Bulls now. It's like, Scottie, you can't say nothing nice about the Bulls. Have you? You was rock star. You and Mike didn't kick it at all. Are you sure that's how you remember it? Have you recently talked to any of the cast? Because I know Joe Marie Payton, like she had come out and said that you guys
Starting point is 01:18:40 had a little whatever that situation is. Why? You don't want to fight each other. Yeah. Like, can you first of all, you clarify that story because that's just a wild notice just there's nothing to clarify I'm talking about a co-worker of over 30 years ago and I was a minor you don't think if there was any validity of that they wouldn't come out I'm like how so no 100% nothing happened I mean 1000% no like but I'm not I'm not getting in the back and forth I'm sorry I'm just doing too good getting back and forth well I'm sorry I'm just doing too good to get it back and forth
Starting point is 01:19:05 Well, you know with a woman who's over 70 and I've been kind of like mentally ingrained to not fight with my elders like All right, if that's the way you saw it cool. It is what it is Well, she recently said on a stage I think where I forget where they were at but the the cast was there you weren't there and and she said that like You know, she wished that you were there and if you were there she would hug you and she kind of you know That whole thing so So have you all talked or why? Why does what she have to say hold so much more validity than what my other cast members have to say? I'm just curious.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I think, oh, I think that the age thing does play a factor. 70, old black, which you say, you know what I mean? I think that definitely plays a factor as well. But I think she's one of the first people that alleged like the bad stuff that I saw come out and be like man We should just hug it out I want to turn out it made me wonder like have y'all talk like what changed so the people that I talk to regularly is Kelly and Darius and again, I don't call them Laura and Eddie so I you know, I called Kelly about this book
Starting point is 01:19:57 Mm-hmm, you know, we spoke extensively and you know, Kelly called me two weeks ago But it's weird for us by the way also when we go out and eat or anything like that, you know, we like little back rooms and stuff like that. Exactly! If people saw me and Kelly just at crustaceans in Beverly Hills, it tends to turn into a big, hey can I get a selfie fest? Right. So, you know, we keep it private, but I have a very good relationship with all the cast members who've ever wanted a relationship with me beyond the show. And I don't have anything negative to say about Reggie. When people ask me, who was your favorite scene partner?
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'm like, the chemistry I had with Reginald Bell Johnson, I remember the episode where it clicked for us. It's called Boxcar Blues, where we were stuck in a train together, with all these cows, and Steve is just getting on his nerves. And you know, Reggie just couldn't look at me without breaking up, without breaking character. And we just, we developed this amazing chemistry, but adults are adults, and they're going through
Starting point is 01:20:57 adult things too, and also, I'm a kid, so you know what? I'll tell you one way maybe I could've been annoying. I dribble my basketball everywhere If I was in school, it's you let me need your set boom. Boom basketball basketball basketball Well adults get annoyed when a kid is just dribbling and bouncing the ball all over the place. Is that difficult? Oh, yeah Talk about 13 14 years old. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I feel like adults would have a little bit more approaching it from a very self-aware You know standpoint, so I'm like, okay. Yeah, no, that's great standing. I'm approaching it from a very self-aware standpoint.
Starting point is 01:21:25 So I'm like, OK, yeah. And I remember Joyce Webb, one of our script supervisors, be like, oh, here it comes with the basketball. And it's like, OK. But if that translates 25 years later to being difficult, I'll take it. We got more with Jaleel White when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. We're still kicking in with Jaleel White, aka Steve Urkel. Now, let's talk about your first kiss. Let's talk about your first kiss, because nowadays everybody would be getting arrested in the nowadays if that was it. No, it wouldn't, because nowadays everybody would be getting arrested in the nowadays. No, because he's a guy.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Oh. They don't do that to guys. Exactly. So, break down your first kiss. Exactly. 13 years old, on set. He's ahead of me on this one. No, we had a scene, man, where Steve and Eddie get hot at the dice table, and they're rolling
Starting point is 01:22:19 the dice, and this woman is supposed to give me a kiss, just plant one on me before my last dice roll. And during rehearsals all week, she had just pretty much given me a peck. It was just a peck? Yeah because you just go through the motions but with that hot live studio audience there man she just yo she gave me the whole shebang and so when I pulled back. And this was your first time kissing? Yeah I had never kissed a girl before. How did you know what to do?
Starting point is 01:22:41 No I didn't I wasn't first of all I wasn't even planning for that I know you're supposed to put your lips together but I didn't know that anything else was really supposed to happen to that. I wasn't seasoned. Gotcha. I was. And so she does it. And my whole, my thinking at the time was do not break character.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Do not ruin a good take. You know, that's what you just kind of taught as a comedic actor and as a kid. And so when I went to my dressing room, I just kind of involuntarily, tears started coming down my face, because I was just like, that was weird. And then my dad corners me and he's like, what's wrong? The executive producer comes back, like, what's wrong? And I was just like, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:23:15 she put her tongue in my mouth. I'm surprised your mother didn't whip her ass. You know, it's so funny, everybody says that, but it was like, my father was present and was dealing with the issue, so there was no reason to inject. And once it was revealed what happened, they all started laughing.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Let's start the Men Too movement. Let's start the Men Too movement. My dad's laughing. My dad's laughing. No, do not find this woman. Do not troll this woman at all. No, I'm serious, because it's like, that's one of the things that I'm very protective of,
Starting point is 01:23:44 is we have to embrace what double standards were, leave them in the past, but it's okay. Like I can laugh at it. I'm saying like from the time that it happened to my dad and the executive producer coming in to me walking back out on stage to do now the next scenes, even the hot, the crew hot fire, she put it on you young fella, you hung in there, you did your thing. And it it was like it was very clear to me all The signals that I was getting was that might have been yucky the way it went down But apparently I'm going to get a lot more of that so mama cheese most says yeah, okay All right go with the flow what about the trauma you went through because it was immediately after that scene
Starting point is 01:24:17 They told you that you can't wear pants anymore. You know what? I see how you do it. You'll be here all week, tip your waitresses on the way out, ladies and gentlemen. I know in the book you talk about the meeting that you had with the exec about the remake or the spinoff. The reboot. The reboot. Your version that you wanted to happen, in my opinion, was way better. I don't know if you want to say it, you want people to read the book, but it was way better
Starting point is 01:24:41 than what they had pitched to you. Thank you. Will we ever get that? And could you, could you do that on your own? Listen, first of all, you can't do it on your own. You know, that's the thing about television that people have to respect. It's the only art form I feel that still has gatekeeping still very much in place.
Starting point is 01:24:56 And you can either be bitter about it or you can fight the good fight and look for the person that's gonna be your champion. That's just, it is what it is. I was never offered a reboot. I always wanna make that very clear. And even my vision for the show that I have, it's not about me. It's about three dimensional characters that would actually resonate and translate in 2024 because I worked for the producers who coined the phrase, jump the shark, Fonzie jump the
Starting point is 01:25:18 shark, you jumped over a shark, right? Those are my producers, the exact same producers. So you're not going to invite me to jump the shark again. I was offered a blind contract and half my pay of what I got for the last episode and there was no consideration given to the adults that actually have such a large opinion over what terms they would return to. I'm like, the way they were being discussed was,
Starting point is 01:25:41 well, you know, Herod and Carl will come by and they'll visit the new family every now and then. Like Hollywood doesn't really they engage talent when they need talent. They pay talent when they need talent and and this isn't even a black thing I don't want this to turn into a black thing. Out here guys like Chris Pine or whatever who's you know he's like I don't know what they're gonna do next with Star Trek. Like I love playing the character but when they call me they call me. So I'd love the opportunity to make the show that I envisioned that was never turned down,
Starting point is 01:26:09 it was never pitched. I was just offered a blind contract and around that they were going to develop the reboot. Now you never, I was watching the interview you did and you said you never got invited to none of the Hollywood parties. Nah, nah, I mean I did, I went to a lot of nice parties, but none of the like parties? Nah, nah. I mean, I would do a lot of nice parties, but none of the stuff that started gaining
Starting point is 01:26:27 a lot of steam on social media, like the Rock Nation brunch or obviously, you know, you're talking about my man, you know, the ditty parties or whatever, like, nah, nothing. Organically, nah. Did you laugh? Why'd you say Reginald Vaux Johnson used to get invited? Stop. You gotta calm down. You gotta calm down.
Starting point is 01:26:43 You gotta calm down. You just... You ever see them around saying... to get invited. Stop, you gotta calm down. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, listen, you gotta calm down. You just, we just, we gonna slow it down for a second. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes you can just be driving too fast and you're not paying attention to the, you know. To the speed limits, to the speed, exactly. We in a 35 zone right now.
Starting point is 01:27:01 What happened to Judy, man? How Judy just walked up there. I mean, I talked about it in a book. I know. There were a multitude of factors that went into her departure from the show that I blame all on her mother but as a performer they weren't giving her storylines. She wasn't the best at delivering a joke. You know sometimes they would give her material and it would just fall flat and if you fall flat in run-throughs they're gonna rewrite you and you know we're kids back
Starting point is 01:27:24 there. So you know kids that's the thing you can't roast each other nowadays at least not in public but trust me kids are still roasting each other that's never going to go away right so you know we'd be sitting in the background and you're like and she blows the layup you know it's like you know you can only mess up so much and be arrogant about it in the fur coat and the Mercedes too, before somebody says, enough of this. You know, and in this situation, I really felt like, you know, Jamie was born to a mother who put herself before her daughter and she had ideas of grandeur that weren't necessarily
Starting point is 01:27:57 very realistic. And it sucks for Jamie that she has to wear that scarlet letter for the rest of her life. And I hope that Jamie finds peace outside of show business to be quite honest. You know, this show business can start to make you think that this is the only way to make money. This is the only way to live. Like if it didn't, I talk about that with Jonathan Brandis because I, he passed away and he took his life and I just, I was very close to him at that particular time.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And I saw signs of someone that was really putting too much emphasis on what this business meant to his existence on earth. I don't have time for one more. Yeah, jump in. Myra, Michelle Thomas. Yes. Every time you- Be careful now, that's my girl.
Starting point is 01:28:32 I know. I was going to say every time you talk about her, it's very emotional for you. I feel that that's your girl, right? Or was. I want to know off camera when you guys developed your relationship that we then saw on camera because it was so believable. What was that offcamera relationship like and like building that for the characters on camera? Like how did you guys cuz you were so young dad? No, I just you know Michelle started off playing Malcolm Jamal Warner's girlfriend on the on the Cosby show
Starting point is 01:28:56 So she was always older than me. So even though she was so small and bubbly and you know big But she was she I looked at her like a little sister. I'm like a big sister Yeah, We just had this amazing chemistry. My mama loved her too, so that made things easy. And she just made it her business to always want to hook me up with somebody. And she introduced me to Martha's Vineyard, spending summers there. And we just had an amazing chemistry. And she was just down. Everybody knew Michelle. Everybody knew Michelle in the music business. Everybody knew, just everywhere we went, people loved Michelle. And unfortunately she passed away to stomach cancer. And that was just a very emotional
Starting point is 01:29:33 time because we just knew what she was going through as an actress. So during the time when she went out, I just, I wish that there had been some better opportunities for her. You know what I'm saying? Like- We want people to buy the book growing up Urkel, but you know it is interesting to see how much of the love y'all created off camera. Yeah, no, it was real love, man. Like, you know, I get it, yes, it was bumpy in the beginning, especially with the adults and the parents of some of the kids, but that's my puberty.
Starting point is 01:30:00 You know, Deris is out here a while in the times, you know, we hear that, we slide each other's DMs, but that's my brother. I mean, we've all had, you know, brothers or whatever, frat brothers or college friends, you know, bugging out or whatnot, but you don't abandon that cat. You still take it as call it. Y'all just laugh it off. And that's what my relationship is with Kelly and Daris. It's very brotherly and sisterly. And, you know, I'll always defend our entire cast actually for the work that we did. That's what it is. Wellaleel White ladies and gentlemen growing up it's out right now make sure you pick it up. Good morning
Starting point is 01:30:32 everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Now leave us on a positive note. The positive note is simply this man remind yourself that winning an argument or proving your point really gets you nowhere in the long run. Win through your actions, not your words. Have a blessed day. Breakfast club bitches! You all finished or y'all done?
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