The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Arsenio Hall, Wanda Sykes + Daniel Caesar Marriage Topic

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

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Starting point is 00:04:37 Morning. Morning. I wish it was a good morning. All I can say is morning. What happens? It's fine. So, after, you know, a woman's intuition never fails. But, you know, men have their ways of trying to convince you of otherwise.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And this morning I had a feeling and I went searching and I found exactly what was disturbing this feeling. And it turns out he's a stumbag and he's been doing him after being trying to make me feel like it was always me and that I was moving crazy. But it was always him and I caught him on it. His name is not Marr. His name is Keith. His name is Keith. His name is Keith. He goes like DJ.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And he's trashed. What are you calling from? Well, I was calling from Brooklyn. I'm leaving Brooklyn. I'm from Long Island. I don't even do Brooklyn. I've been coming out of Brooklyn just for his ass to show him that I actually cared. But I should have never been coming out this way because I hate Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Was he sleeping with a man? Oh, wow. Shod. Was he sleeping with another man? If you were flipping with another man, I'd probably take it a little easier. Wow. Oh, okay, okay. I watched too much Tyler Perry movies.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I just had to make sure. So you would take it a little bit easier. So, so what are you going to? I take it a little bit easier because I know it ain't me. It's him. It clearly he didn't know him. Okay, you can't compete with a man. So yeah, yeah, I definitely understand.
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Starting point is 00:07:34 Woody from the 8th, what's up, Woody? How are you doing? Upstate South Carolina. What's happening, Woody? What's up? I called for you, Charlotte. What's happening? Man, you'd be claiming that one Carolinas, bro,
Starting point is 00:07:45 and I think we're just two different people. And I live 30 minutes away from North Carolina, bro. I'm not from North Carolina. What's I got to do with me? South Carolina. You'd be claiming. I know what he's from.
Starting point is 00:07:55 You claimed it one Carolina. We're not Carolina. We're north and south for a reason. You didn't. I don't know what you're talking about, one Carolina. I'm from Mounts Corner, South Carolina, born in Charleston, salute to the 803, Columbia, salute to the 864.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yes, sir. You ain't never said one Carolina. I don't know what that is. No. What is one Carolina? Carolina. We South Carolina, bro. I'm just saying, we're separate from the north.
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Starting point is 00:09:13 I got to go through all those pieces. Yo, do y'all got any venues down there? That's the problem. I wouldn't try and be funny, bro. I'd be hearing you stand to Carolina. You do not hear me say that. You hear me say, 843, 803, 864. You do not hear me say no Carolina, sir.
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Starting point is 00:09:36 That's the problem. Yeah, that's, yeah, okay, so what about any venue spaces that y'all could, because it's venues spaces everywhere. There's definitely people that want to book you down there. Yeah, I would like to. I haven't been there since, like, the pandemic, Columbia or, I've never been to Charleston,
Starting point is 00:09:51 but Columbia or Greenville. I was thinking about investing in a comedy club. You should. There's a comedy club in Columbia. It was. It's not there anymore. I think the building is still there. Oh, okay, okay. Somebody had hit me up about that.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You used to be called Comedy House or something like that. Yep. Yeah. What was it, the Comedy House in Columbia? And then I thought they said it, they knocked it down or went out of business, something like that. It definitely went out of business. Okay. Definitely went out of business.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 They envy just hilarious. Salameen the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we're talking about something Daniel Seiz and said earlier when he was on a breakfast club. Let's listen. Sometimes I look at like married couples and stuff like that. It almost feels like a big conspiracy where it's just like we're married.
Starting point is 00:14:39 So of course we're happy because we're married and everyone should want marriage. My parents are still together, mind you. And they love each other and they respect each other. But I just sometimes I think and I'm just like I know and I'm the same as my dad. Sometimes it's like he's bound by honor. He's a man of his word. You know what I mean? And so it's like you are my kids.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm not going to run out on you. But you can't lie about what's going on in your head. Like when you come home and you're like, bro, this shit again. You know what I mean? It's like I'm doing the job because I'm bound by honor to do the job. But I would rather be out being a person, being free. running around. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I mean, marriage is hard work. You know what I mean? You're going to have your good days. You're going to have your bad days. But you have to want to do it. So we're asking 800-585-105-1. What are your thoughts? What do you think, Jess?
Starting point is 00:15:29 I agree. I mean, I get what he's saying. You know, I feel like it is a lot of marriages where the man or the woman could be mentally, could, you know, be mentally over it. But you're just in it because you're bound by honor. Like you said your vows. You know, and it's, it's a number of reasons that somebody could be unhappy in their marriage, but at the same time, you got to want to do it. Like, you know, how many times have, you, you're not going to always have that.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It's not going to always be sunshine and rain and all that. Like, it's going to always be hard. But if you're willing to do the work and to be there, that's how you last. Yeah, but you got to be happy. You have to be happy, right? And something Sholomey said earlier. But you're not always happy in the murder. You've got to find the right person, right?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Now, yeah, in marriage, you might not always be happy, but the majority of times you should be happy. And regardless, your wife or your husband should make you happy. This time I have a hard day, whatever it is. But when I step into that house and I see my wife, my day brightens up immediately. When I see my kids, my day brightens up immediately. Marriage is not easy, but for people in a marriage that say, oh, I'm in there because I need to honor, that's not going to last long.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And for people that say, oh, I'm there because of my kids. your kids can see when you're happy and when you're not. Your kids can see right through the BS. So I wouldn't say being at marriage just because you want to honor somebody. If you're not in love and you're not there for the right reasons, you shouldn't be there. Yeah. Yeah, I get what Daniels saying, but you can't generalize every marriage the way that he did. Like, you know, there are some people who are not happily married.
Starting point is 00:17:05 There are some people just going through motions in a marriage, but that's not everyone's ministry. And I know plenty of people who are happily married. Okay, I'm one of them. And whoever told you that every day in a marriage is going to be peaches and cream, that's just a damn lie. Okay, you're going to argue with your wife. You're going to get mad at your wife, you know, but that's still your person at the end of the day. Right. And it's also how you handle those arguments, right?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Me and my wife will argue, and then at the end of it, we start laughing because we just know how stupid the argument is. Like, she is my person, I am her person. Like, we just know everything about each other. It's to the point where I tell everybody all the time. I'd rather stay home every day all day and watch a movie with, with my wife than to do anything. I have fun and I enjoy doing it, you know what I mean? And I think that's the biggest thing, right?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Some of y'all just truly haven't found your person. Yeah. That's just the reality of the situation. You know what I mean? All right, you know, maybe you did find your person and, you know, that person was in your life for a long, long, long, long time and maybe y'all did grow apart. Just grow apart, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 You know? And I don't know if that means y'all get a divorce or y'all try to, you know, work things out. I don't know what that means, but, you know, when you do find your person, You know that's your person and you want to do right by that person because doing right is the right thing. Not because society tells you you have to. Right. But it's another part of it too. Like you can find your person, but you got to be able to find yourself too.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You got to know who you are. You know, because how Daniel is his way of thinking, that may change. He only 30. That may change at 35. I think he's looking at something else. Like you said, he was a young man that didn't get respected. He didn't get to kids. He was bullied.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He said girls thought he was cosmetically challenged, you know what I'm saying? So he probably didn't really start to get a lot. What is that? Cosmatically challenged. Oh, God. So he probably started, didn't probably start getting a lot of, you know, girls even coming his way. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Until he got popping. So of course his thoughts are going to be jaded on it. Yeah. But let me ask you a question. If your, your husband, you know, something happened and he gained 400 pounds, would you still be there? Yeah, we're going to lose that.
Starting point is 00:19:02 You ain't never seen a 400 pound Mexican in your life. Yeah, I ain't right. But he's still black, too. But we would be jimmin at. Like, ain't no way. Like, I'm not going to leave you. But you're not about to stay 400 pounds. What is Jim in that?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Jiming at? Jiming that? Like going to be gymming all day. Oh, I thought you were saying a Mexican word I didn't know. I didn't know. I was like, what? Yeah, I really didn't know. I was like, loud.
Starting point is 00:19:22 You didn't know what the hell you said. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Lewis. What are doing? Peace, Louis. Good morning. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I'm only starts by saying my story is almost similar to the dude that I got forced and the fact that I was a version because I was married, so I was married. So I think to answer the question about my happy Mary, Most of time, no, and I do have desires to experience others. But when you make the commitment in marriage to God, like Charlene was saying,
Starting point is 00:19:53 you've got to go through. It's hard work. So a lot of times, you can give them too easily, but that commitment that you made, you got to commit to the hard work. Otherwise, it would just be too easy. That seems everything in life. I don't want to eat vegetables. I don't want to, you know, go to work.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You put in hard work. And even y'all, we all, we're not putting hard on the scenes. We are now. So I think everything in life is our work and you can benefit of it. I get what you saying. Thank you, man. Hello, who's this? Hello.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Hey, what's your name, brother? Hey, how you doing? This is Naim from Detroit. Naim, what up, though? Talk to us. What's your thoughts? A lot of, this is something that's dear to me because I am a married man, but a lot of times the younger people, they haven't loved someone enough.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And so what they do is they view older people who kind of at the middle or at the end. they kind of, you know, cast their opinions based on what they see promoters. You have to love enough first before you make these kind of, you know, thoughts and put these out in the air because it's kind of hurting other people who love marriage. You know, they haven't experienced enough. He sounds like he haven't found a woman that he loves enough. So he's saying, oh, you know, because it's probably women he deal with is short terms. Shouldn't really do that.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's irresponsible. Okay. Thank you, Roeux. 8-85-105-105-1. If you're just joining us, we're talking about Daniel Caesar. We had him on the show an hour ago, and this is what he said about how he looks at marriage. Sometimes, I look at, like, married couples and stuff like that. It almost feels like a big conspiracy where it's just like we're married.
Starting point is 00:21:29 So, of course, we're happy because we're married and everyone should want marriage. My parents are still together, mind you. And they love each other and they respect each other. But I just sometimes I think, and I'm just like, I know. and I'm the same as my dad. Sometimes it's like he's bound by honor. He's a man of his word. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:46 And so it's like you are my kids. I'm not going to run out on you. But you can't lie about what's going on in your head. Like when you come home and you're like, bro, this shit again. You know what I mean? It's like I'm doing the job because I'm bound by honor to do the job. But I would rather be out being a person, being free, running around. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I mean, marriage is how I work. You know what I mean? going to have your good days, you're going to have your bad days. But you have to want to do it. So we're asking 800-585-105-1, what are your thoughts? It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Call, call, call, man.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You're all talking about it. You know we're talking about it. It's topic time. Call 800-585-105-1 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NVHS hilarious. Salomey Nagar. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:22:42 If you just joining us, Daniel Caesar, R&B singer was on the Breakfast Club a little earlier. And this is what he said about marriage. Sometimes, I look at like married couples and stuff like that. It almost feels like a big conspiracy where it's just like we're married. So of course we're happy because we're married and everyone should want marriage. My parents are still together, mind you. And they love each other and they respect each other. But I just sometimes I think and I'm just like I know and I'm the same as my.
Starting point is 00:23:12 my dad. Sometimes it's like he's bound by honor. He's a man of his word. You know what I mean? And so it's like you are my kids. I'm not going to run out on you. But you can't lie about what's going on in your head. Like when you come home and you're like, bro, this shit again. You know what I mean? It's like I'm doing the job because I'm bound by honor to do the job. But I would rather be out being a person, being free, running around. I get what you're saying. I mean, marriage is all work. You know what I mean? You're going to have your good days. you have your bad day. But you have to want to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 So we're asking 800-585-105-1. What are your thoughts? Now, you feel just the same way or different? Yeah, yeah. I get what he's saying, but like he can't generalize it. Like Shalda said, like you can't just, that just be your outlook on marriage, period. And then I agree with the last brother that called up.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Daniel hasn't had enough experience, enough experiences with love to come to this conclusion right now and just be set in it. Like you have to have you have to have to you have to have your person, but you also, I feel like you also have to know who you are too. All right, we know he don't like systems, but like I feel like he's not going to feel the same way. Yeah. Because true love isn't a system. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:26 You know what I'm saying? True love is two spirits connecting, right? Like love love has nothing to do with any system. There's no societal system that can create love. Like that's what coming to America was about. Right. Coming to America, they had a whole tradition. And he was like, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:24:41 do that, I want to go out there and find my person. Yes. But I always take it to the extent, right, the full extent. So if your spouse was a paraplegia, would you still love him, right? If your spouse got into an accident and lost limbs, would you still love him the same way? If your spouse couldn't have sex, would you still
Starting point is 00:24:57 be there and love him to say? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What you say, Jess, if your spouse could not have sex anymore, right? Would you stay in that marriage? Well, I just got married. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, And it, you know, and you're just throwing all this at me too early. That's crazy. Like, like, now, who wants a Mexican that can't work?
Starting point is 00:25:18 What? What? Yo! Like, you know that video, I see you posted on your story, the video of the, uh, the human with no arms and no legs, right? And you see how the, that person's spouse was throwing them in the water. Could you be in a relationship like that? But I think they was in a relationship for a long time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I wouldn't want to be the one that has to carry around, you know, the same. That's crazy. That's like a CPR mannequin for real. Like you got to, you know what's so crazy? I know men who have had women, damn, what was it? It's not all the time. I guess dementia. Like I got no men who have had been with women and there were younger women, not younger
Starting point is 00:25:57 and younger, but like, you know, 40s, 50s who ended up getting like some type of dementia or some type of neurological disorder. And they were basically vegetables. And those guys stayed with those women. Absolutely. To care of those women, watch those women. Watch the women because that was his person and he loved it up until the day she died. So, I mean, yeah, if you really do have unconditional love with a person, you're going to hold that down.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Absolutely. Hello, who's this? Good morning. I want to say my name because but my husband don't listen to the breakfast club. He gives to be Caucasian. But I was that. Look at it. So I know that you're looking for males to call in.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But I got my own opinion. My husband, I have been married for 17 years. He's been taken away back in the early 2000. But, you know, when he got out, he came home, he locked it down. And it's just, I'm too old to start over. So you didn't have a convenience. So it's more like the convenience. Correct.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And the operator took it the word that I ain't out of my mouth. Our son is grown down zone. And it's just, I don't know. It's just, it's, how well. And you said he's white? He is of the palm side. So you're tired of that pink penis. You haven't had enough.
Starting point is 00:27:18 No, but the pink penis is hitting it right. It's hitting that good spot. I'm not complaining. But I know it's tough. I know it's tough getting on your knees and, you know, doing that during the Black Lives Matter movement. Like, I mean, that's kind of crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:35 You know what I mean? The topic of the day was not about. Now, the topic of the day. I don't know, right. But let me ask you a question. Happily married, marriage. If you're not, if you're not happy, right, why wouldn't you say? I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 00:27:50 She sounded happy to me. Oh, she just said she's there for convenience. Right. I am very blessed and highly favored. But you said you were there for convenience. That doesn't necessarily. You love. And that's because the operator took those words out by mouth.
Starting point is 00:28:02 He put some words in the mouth. So you have me? I mean, it is convenient. So why are you calling? No, I don't think, I don't think convenience is the right. word. I think that you have found your person and you're happy with your person. Like you're not just there because you have
Starting point is 00:28:15 to be there. Are you? But she correct. Okay. But okay but you say it is. I'm too old to start over. Right. I don't know. I don't want to put that bad. I don't want to start over. You don't want to. Yeah, but that's kind of contradicting. It's like, yeah. But that kind of tells you like I don't want to start over but that like
Starting point is 00:28:31 that kind of something like you hear. Like you're comfortable in your situation. But if if it was, if it wasn't there the day or tomorrow, you'll be all right, but you don't want to start over. I don't know she was all over the place. I do wonder about that, though, because when you're ready to move, you're going to move. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you choose to stay in a position, you're there because there's a part of you that actually wants to be there.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like, when that desire is really calling you to move, you're going to move. But the problem is, is a lot of people don't want to move because it's starting over. A lot of people are like, where do I go to date? Right. Where do I go to find somebody there? After a certain age and a certain amount of kids is like, who's going to want me? How do I start over? Like, I don't even know how to, like, when people come up there, they'd be like, I don't even know how to date.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That one brother who called earlier who said that, you know, he'd be having desires, that was interesting to me too because I just feel like lust is a fleeting pleasure that always leaves you empty. And it's like eating junk food. Like you may desire it, but you know it's not good for you.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And you know after you eat it, you're going to be mad. Yeah. So just why do it? Yeah. You know? Like, like, you don't throw away something good just for lust. Like, if you've been eating clean and not on alcohol, and working out for three months straight
Starting point is 00:29:41 and like you locked in on that you don't just say effort I'm gonna go wild out but it depends on your level of discipline though like you gotta be disciplined because people do chase them little temporary highs like definitely that's true all right well what's the story
Starting point is 00:29:56 I mean the moral of the story is man find what works for you that's what I would say but you know I just just not just generalize all marriages and say oh people you know aren't happy like you're all fronting Like, no. Find yourself, find your person.
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Starting point is 00:32:57 Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Okay, if you know me, you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration, for support, and useful tools to help maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that together. We're going to have these meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people, like when actresses Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges that she never saw coming. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartner depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Olympic champ Sean Johnson revealed why she had no choice but to be a gymnast.
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Starting point is 00:34:10 A legend. A icon. An OG. A legend in this game. Ladies and gentlemen, Arsidio Hall. Yes. Yes. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, who. How are you feeling, brother? I'm feeling great. I'm thanking God for the day that Shalemain called me.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Because I wouldn't have done this without the voice of respect on the other end of the phone. I mean, I'm 70 years old. Could have written a book many times, but that's adult work. It's a really hard thing to do. And he talked me into it. And I'm so glad I did for my son and for my legacy. Man, I'm so glad you did too because I want to talk about your legacy today, man. And, you know, I always say that I got four entertainment icons, right?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Jay-Z, Clarence, Avon, P.D. Green, and Arsenio Hall. And I feel like people don't truly understand the risk you took to put black culture at the forefront at a time when nobody was putting black culture in the forefront. Yeah, it was hard. I was coming along at a time when you go to Paramount and say, let's book Bobby Brown the first Friday night because people won't have to work on Saturday. And to really show him what show this is, he has this song, Don't Be Cru, and my prerogative. Let's let him break one at the top and one at the bottom. Well, Johnny Carson
Starting point is 00:35:30 only does three minutes of a song at the end of the show. And I'm like, well, I'm not Johnny. I'm not Johnny Carson. So let's try this. But what was crazier is one of the ladies in the room said, and why would we give a model that much time? And I didn't realize that there was a Bobby Brown in the modeling work. Oh, no, the makeup artist. The makeup. Make okay. Yeah, so I didn't know her. And I realized my battle is that they have no idea what I'm about to do. You know, you say Michael Bivens called me and he got these four dudes that call
Starting point is 00:36:05 boys to men. Or Dr. Dre called and this kid, Calvin. And he wants him to come on and do this thing. And this is how, you know, I was not hit to it, but he wants to freestyle. You'll just give him a beat. and he'll just come out of his head with whatever is in the environment and when his album is ready
Starting point is 00:36:27 then you can have him on to do one, two, three into the four with Dre, you know, and I'm like, okay, we call Snoop and he doesn't want to do the show. Wow. And like why he says, you know, he's talking about the streets of Long Beach,
Starting point is 00:36:42 I have respect. And I don't want to, you know, I don't want to lose the respect of the streets to do this late night television television type stuff, you know. I had to go to the studio and talk him into it. This is a guy who, Snoop Dog is more popular than Lassie now.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You know? The more popular dog ever. Yeah. He was the more popular dog ever. And did not want to be on television. But I'll never forget, he walked in the door with a blue hockey jersey. I remember. And we gave him a beat. And I don't think we'd ever seen freestyle on television, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But those kinds of things. I saw a little kid on a tape do an Elvis impression. And I tell Paramount, I want to put this kid on. They say, well, you need tune-in numbers. Names, if you put prints, you get a tune-in number. You can put it in TV guide two weeks ahead of time. That was a game back then. And if you put some unknown, you know, this is not Star Search.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You can't put an unknown kid on until you, maybe in the fifth year. And so I would put people on in the mom. And I created this little spot where I put people on, but the kid was Bruno Monk. Right. And stuff like that, they didn't want Eddie Griffin because he's too edgy. So during the monologue, I said, oh, Eddie Griffin, because Ed Sullivan used to point in the audience when I was a kid. There's Diana Ross, stand up, Ms. Ross, you know? And so I'm like, Eddie Griffin, what's up, man?
Starting point is 00:38:13 Hey, come here for a minute. And it's not on the booking sheet, Paramount, don't know what's going to happen. Now that one backfired. on me because Eddie Griffin did Michael Jackson snort and cocaine for a while. He did, you know, because he used to be a dancer, so he does that, you know, he does all
Starting point is 00:38:30 this little step. And the lawyers had a hard time that next day at Paramount because basically he had done a routine on television about Michael Jackson, snort and cocaine in it dancing really was. But it was hilarious. It was hilarious. You know, we'll never have that kind of monoculture ever again
Starting point is 00:38:46 when everybody is tuned in watching one thing at once. Because I remember all those moments. We had no DVRs back then, no on demand. You couldn't go back and watch it on YouTube. You had to turn it on. Before we go back to, because I like to go back to the beginning, so people understand the story. That's why you buy
Starting point is 00:39:02 the book. And that's why you're in this business. But you know what? One thing I've noticed, I've watched a lot of your interviews in the last week so. To my, when I look at your face, I see a light that comes on. Like, it's almost either a surprise light. Like, I'm surprised they really fuck with me. Like, you, like,
Starting point is 00:39:18 you look amazed when these guys Like, like, I'm thinking myself, Arsino, no, no, he's the O'G, the icon. And then another thing that popped in my head is, I know you retired. Maybe he's ready for that comeback because it's just the feeling, the energy. When I watch you come out and just delight and you're pointing at people and you're pointing at the bed, I'm like, God damn it, bring Arsigno back. So what is going through your mind when you are doing these press runs and you're doing TV? What's going through Arsenio's mind? The light you saw, I mean, that was the light of a fan, the light of a kid for.
Starting point is 00:39:50 from Cleveland who did a talk show in his basement. I had a little record player. I put the record player on. There was a Temptation's greatest hits album. I'd play Get Ready. I'd come out. I'd do a magic trick. I'd do a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:03 After taking the needle off the record, and I would entertain the kids in my neighborhood with this talk show. So you see a guy who's dreamed it all his life and can't believe that I've dreamed it into existence. My mother used to say, if you get good grades, you can go to Detroit. and watch the Motown review with your cousins. For $5, you can see Stevie Wonder, you could see the temptations,
Starting point is 00:40:27 and they give you two pips. Well, sometimes, for $5 what you want. And that kind of stuff, when you grow up, and then you tour with the temptations when they had to stand in on the top tour. Rick James wrote them that track. Then one day Michael Bivens calls you and says, hey, I got four guys
Starting point is 00:40:47 that idolized the temptation. They're from Philly called Boys to Men But their album's not ready yet When it's ready I want to come I said oh I got an idea If they love the temptations I got the temptations on Thursday Let them come And blend in with the temptations
Starting point is 00:41:01 And you can imagine Paramount every night It was a nightmare because They wanted less black Now I got 15 But my thing was like I'd rather do six years my way than 20 years Johnny's way
Starting point is 00:41:18 and Johnny dug the show because I wasn't trying to be him. There was never a competition. I was looking for friends of the show. I remember Alan King, a legendary old comic called me, and he says, your show put out an offer to me. And I just want you to know, I love what you're doing, but I'm a Johnny guy. And that's when it hit me.
Starting point is 00:41:39 You've got to get your guys. And so that's when I started trying to go for the audience that didn't have a talk show. And that made it work. You know, because I'd been the Ed McMahon figure on a thing called Thick of the Night, you know, where I was on, Alan Thick. And so I got to watch it go on, and I got to learn from Allen's experience. Don't try to be Johnny. Try to come up with an alternative. By the way, when I was working for Allen Thick, there was a little boy.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I brought Johnny Gill on Alan Thick's show. I met Johnny Gill in Cleveland with Gerald Levert. I bring Johnny Gill on the show. and he gets numbers. And that letting me know, hey, it's not that black people don't get numbers, it's that we ain't trying it. He came on with Stacey Ladassar
Starting point is 00:42:25 and they did perfect combination. On the side, there's a little white boy with a Cubs cap on. It's Alan Thick's son who always surfaced when there was R&B on the show. That was Robin Thick. That's another example of how we know who we are.
Starting point is 00:42:41 We know who we want to be. And that kid then knew he was Dwight Marvin Gay. is this book is your memoir a closure for you or is it correction a lot of correction I don't know if I yeah yeah a little closure too because I loved putting that letter of resignation a lot of people barbershop journalists would say well you know one night he snuck faircon in there paramount didn't know about it you know and interview faircon and you know when the fact is paramount has to green like that they have to approve that
Starting point is 00:43:16 And so all the barbershop journalism, you get, because basically studios, people think studios are above the fray and the and what they don't understand is that studios, just like a relationship, you have a break up with somebody and then you hear that he said, I left her because I was sick of her. No, no, no, that is lying. And unfortunately, businesses like that too. They want to position it sexy their way. And they say, well, we'll come over Tuesday and we'll talk about crafting a release to the press of what we're going to do from here on. And then Monday, some shit come out. And you're like, you, my. You know, but I get to correct those kind of things.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And, yeah, and have closure to. Because I said you actually quit this show. And I remember when you first told me that, in my mind, I'm like, really? When I heard that little thing, that dental tungular thing, I had my woman go in the garage. And I said, you got to find that letter. And she found it. Because there were so many people that believed that, though, that you didn't quit the show. If you had never written this book, would you have ever, like, tried to clear it up any other place?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Like, was that something that was sitting with you for a while? Yeah. And I had a lawyer say, why do you care? Look at your bank account. Why do you care? And I'm like, because truth matters. Yeah. And I mean, forget television.
Starting point is 00:44:49 We as a people, the Puerto Rican gentleman also. We're talking about our board up, right? We as a people have to be careful not to let truth be buried. Mine is insignificant. How about the history of our people and the way it's being changed, buried, and hidden from future children? truth is important. It's important when it's on y'all's side. So let it be important for us too.
Starting point is 00:45:18 By the way, either way you left is gangster. Walking away because, hey, man, I want to do my black stuff. If it ain't working for y'all, it ain't going to work for me. I'm out. Or, yeah, I bought Farrakhan on one time. Either way it works. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you get a free bean pie for that second.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Brothers be very, very supportive of you. But, you know, here's the deal. Here's how you can understand it. At the end of the day, entertainment is cool, but Quincy used to tell me the word business is larger than the word show. And my ratings and my income were attached. The higher the number, the more money I get. When Letterman gets CBS, because I'm in syndication now, I'm on, I'm on stations most places. But my CBS stations help me succeed.
Starting point is 00:46:03 When Letterman comes into the game and all my CBS stations leave at the end of their term, I'm like, what am I going to do now? And so basically, and the money goes down. And now you're like, well, I have to look at a movie every night and read a Jackie Collins book. I'm like, I don't know if it's worth it for a million a year. You know, and the bottom line is I dashed when the money. Also, I'm from Cleveland. I grew up down the street from Jim Brown, and I watched him leave on top. I watched him start doing movies when they were still calling him to the locker room.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I always wanted to leave on top. So the bottom line, when the money changed a little bit, and the numbers changed a little bit, and I didn't see a future for syndication. Because I'm like, they're going to put somebody at ABC. I'm going to lose those affiliate, too. So eventually there's a Kimmel and there's a letterman. And the bottom line is the money changed.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Let's do something else. I've gotten six years out of this. I've been on the cover of Time magazine. I spent two years knowing I was leaving and building a house on the beach. And bottom line is I'm cool with how it all went down. I was always shocked that Fox just didn't get into the late night game. It's funny. I just sat with Conan O'Brien, and he told me a cool story.
Starting point is 00:47:17 He says he was in a lunchroom, a cafeteria at Fox, and he says, you were very nice to me. You won't remember me. But I was getting coffee, and you showed me where other stuff was. What I didn't realize is while I was taking over for Joan Rivers and doing the late show, because she eventually got fired, and her husband killed himself. You remember all that stuff? I'm doing the late show.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'm doing the last 11 weeks of her contract before I go to do coming to America. Conan had been hired to create a show to replace me. So while I was there, they had decided that I wasn't the guy. And they created a thing called the Wilton North Report. I went and did coming to America and Paramount was like, when we finished this, if you want a talk show, let's try it in syndication.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Now, something in syndication will never work again. Other than Byron Allen, no one's going to ever be able to make syndication. money because the networks got it you know it when I came into it CBS and ABC didn't want to be in the late night game so they bought my show you know it was a perfect time life is all about timing yeah and effort now you mentioned coming to America my favorite movie of all yes right let's talk about that movie and how it came together and what was the decision to play so many different characters for both you and Eddie the decision for me to play characters was Eddie saying yeah him too that's cool you
Starting point is 00:48:37 Because he's the king, you know. But the movie, the movie was all hinged on the fact that America missed Eddie doing characters. They wanted that again. And I remember. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember his manager saying to me, they want Eddie to do characters. So when you guys go to America, he'll be some of the people that you meet.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And I'm like, that's really cool. Now, I'm just a straight out stand-up. I'm not an impressionist and I'm not an actor. I was honored when he asked me to also do some characters. But that movie was supposed to be me as, you know, like a personal assistant or an undersized bodyguard coming to America from Zimunda with Eddie. He saw me do stand up and I did this bit about going to church in Chicago and going to the south side. So I do this preacher character. And he's like, that's all it is, man.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You know, we do the prosthetics and you do that. and you're a preacher, you know. And, of course, my dad was a Baptist preacher. And so at any moment, I'm ready to preach. I was laughing other day because I saw you posted video. You was like, I'm walking like the preacher and coming to America, but not because I'm pretending. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Life is crazy because, you know, at one point you're in your 20s and you're standing in front of a mirror. Jess, you've been through this, standing in front of a mirror, you're practicing the character. You're looking at how red fox walks. and you're breaking it down and then one day you turned 70 and you realize
Starting point is 00:50:12 now that's my walk but if loving you is wrong I don't want to hear that. I was going to ask coming to America I read somewhere I think it was one of the interviews you did or something it almost didn't happen though a couple times at first because of the pitch and then there was an issue
Starting point is 00:50:31 with Eddie Murphy and somebody on set yeah well you know they wanted him to do characters and and that made the treatment perfection. And he decided different things I can do when we come to America. And the other thing you reference is he had a conflict with Landis. And Landis is a brilliant director. And they worked that out.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Thank God. Yeah, thank God. My business manager, thanks God every day for me. Residuals keep coming in. Residuals, royalty. Not as crazy as one might think. You know, but because you see it all the time on VH1 and on things owned by Skydance, I guess it is now. By the way, the checks that he get are probably what you just described, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah. But the bottom line is I was a lucky actor to be involved, and mine sometimes will be 13th. Yeah. In your show, right, has there ever been anybody that would talk about you, but then won't come on your show and you let it happen? Yeah, once Yeah One time But for the most part
Starting point is 00:51:41 You know what Who? Oh I forgot her name It was somebody Who You know Now that I think
Starting point is 00:51:48 Maybe there are jokes That was too much You know But I forgot But she was a comic Okay Oh another comedian
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah It was a young comic And I was like No Not no Keep that same energy Yeah When you was
Starting point is 00:52:05 calling me the F word on stage, you know. But, um, the Gaisler from the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, which is rough on a black man because, uh, but, you know, that whole history. Um, I was one of those guys that would put the business before my
Starting point is 00:52:20 personal feelings. I've had Spike Lee call me an Uncle Tom. But when it's time for Spike Lee to promote his shit, I'm like, dude, I'm here. Come on. You know, as a matter of fact, Spike was mad at me because I probably didn't give him the date. I think he wanted a certain date and it sweeps and,
Starting point is 00:52:41 oh, that date's taken, that Friday night day. And he got mad at me and, you know, call me an Uncle Tom and it's like, you would think that we would never speak. But I walked up to him at a Laker game, a Laker Knicks game, grabbed him. Dude, come on through sometime, next price. I never understood that, though. Like, how could Spike Lee call our senior hall on Uncle Tom?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Like, you was doing do the right thing every night, the way you was fighting for black. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And, you know, like I said, people, you make mistakes, you say stuff. A lot of times we, by the fact that when I hugged him, we talked and it was over, you realize in the moment, he said that because he didn't get the date he wanted to promote,
Starting point is 00:53:23 you know, whatever the movie. Uncle Tom is strong, though. Yeah. Especially when you already had people that were feeling like that about you. So for him to echo it made it, you know, bigger. Yeah. And that's probably why he. went for that Achilles heel or that spot.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But I think sometimes to hold a grudge, you have to keep that ugly thing with you. Sometimes it's easier for you to let it go. I see no has to go to guys too. Okay, wait, I was trying to, I've been trying to get this in. You got really personal just about like a dating life as well too in this book. You talk about Pamela Anderson and Paula Abdul. And by the way, one of the reasons I wanted to tell the Pamela Anderson story
Starting point is 00:54:04 it's because I don't know if it's changed, but the older comics, that was the kind of advice. It's like, yo, Johnny Witherspoon in this book, stay away from white women, you know, and you're a young,
Starting point is 00:54:16 you're like, okay, you know, because there were no white women in my neighborhood, and I didn't know why. And, of course, the night I walked into the comedy store
Starting point is 00:54:25 with Pamela Anderson, Johnny Witherspoon looked at me and did that tungular thing that you, what I tell you, you know? And just, I wanted to take people through that growth process of what the OGs told you. You just had to dip in. You're talking about like the family family.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Me and Tupac had an argument because Tupac in an article said something about Quincy and Arsenio and some of these brothers and these white women you see him with white. You know, it's like back then that was a no-no to the older brothers who were talking to you. And they were trying to tell you that's a problem. You know, that, you know, and it was. Some people in your demo will not like you if they see you in Jet Magazine with a playmate. Yeah. You know, so he was trying to protect me. It's definitely the real story of Arsenio Hall.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's not just about, you know, a guy with a late night show, man. Go get Arsenio a memoir available everywhere you buy books now. And just salute to you, my brother. Word. Absolutely. I don't even know how you got my number. Thank you for the call because you gave me something. to do for a couple years.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Man. And it was a lot of fun. And I think I did it well. I'm glad you did. No, this is one of the best entertainment memoirs I've ever read in my life. That is said with no bias. Not just bias for publishing it. Not biased because I look at you as an inspiration,
Starting point is 00:55:49 but this is actually one of the best entertainment memoirs I ever read in my life. Could I just add one more thing when you talk about dreaming and teaching and what the book does and all that kind of stuff? What you just said is important. A black man saying to me on the phone, I want to do this because I want more black offers.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I want more books in the hands of new being people. What you did calling me was so important and to do it with you. And that's what I told him our publicist. I got to do it because he's trying to do something. And I believe in what he's trying to do. And I knew your history and your parents being educators. It's so important for us. Sometimes we don't work together.
Starting point is 00:56:30 We will work with anybody. but our own. I don't know why. And you know how you're going to, you know, you know, you're fucking d'em- and there's a lot of that
Starting point is 00:56:40 in us, even when we don't say it. But I f***es with this shit. And we got a good book out of it. Arsenio freed me a long time ago because I used to want to do late-night television because of us in your house. You know, you do radio and you get a talk show
Starting point is 00:56:53 and you think like, I got to make it as a late-night host, got to make it as a late-night host. And when you was on press for coming to America, too, somebody asked you, they said, you know, who do you think is like the closest to you? in this generation.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And you said, I would say somebody like Charlemagne, but he does radio and you watch it on YouTube. And, you know, that's like where people go to get, I guess that, that so-called late-night fix. I remember you said that. I was like, yo. Hey, that song, everything must change. The business is that way, too.
Starting point is 00:57:19 That late-night format that Johnny created, he was the king. But for budget reasons and for the advancement of technology, this shit has to change. And what you're doing now, when Tupac would call me on the landline and say, I need to come on the show, man, because they're trying to make me take an AIDS test before I do poetic justice.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And I ain't going to really, Janet, right? Okay. So why should I have to take an AIDS test? And back then, we didn't have the word Twitter. We didn't have that. It wasn't a bluebird. It was a blackbird.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I was the guy you called. And came and talked about your problems or the business or what you were. were going through ice tea coming on and explaining cop killer explaining you know i'm not really killing cops arnold swartagnay game really determinator this is a piece of art trying to give a message and so what i was doing when i watch you when i listen to you i'm like he's doing it and the medium has come to a different place you know there's no curtain there's no ed mcm there's no doc severinson but what charlemagne is doing is what i did for this time for this culture and uh and uh you
Starting point is 00:58:31 and look how it's evolved. Yeah. You know, you got the two ladies now and of course envy. It was a friend for me because it just teaches you you don't always have to be chasing something
Starting point is 00:58:41 and it goes back to gratitude. Gratitude turns what we have into enough. Hello. There you have it. Arsenio Hall, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. Their memoir is out right now.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Make sure you pick it up and we appreciate you, OG, so much. Thank you. Thank you, man. I appreciate y'all. Yeah. And I'm glad to finally meet
Starting point is 00:58:58 the other three of the foursum in person. Yeah, thank you. Any point that we can do with the boss. That's right. I'm going to reach you, huh? The breakfast club is our city of all, ladies gentlemen. Tell I made it. Don't be out here acting like a donkey.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Ki-hi, bitch. Key-ha. It's time for donkey of the day. I'm a big boy I can take it. If he feel I deserve it, ain't no big deal. I know Charlamini guy going to have some funny sick of this mouth. This is because I say something you may not agree with. Doesn't mean I mean.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Who's getting that donkey? That donkey. That donkey, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Donkey of the day right there. club, bitch. You can call me the donkey of the day, but like, I mean no harm. Donkey of the day. Go to a young woman who has been identified
Starting point is 00:59:39 as VA, Vaya, B-A-Y-H-A. I don't know her last name, but I want it because we need this woman in jail. All right, why do we need this woman in jail? Well, over the weekend, actually it was early morning last Wednesday, they said. She decided
Starting point is 00:59:55 she wanted to slap the artist known as Ice Spice in the face. Okay, and an unprovoked attack at a McDonald's in L.A. Yes, Ice Spice was enjoying a late-night McDonald's meal, which proves you can take a young lady out of the Bronx, but you can't take the Bronx out of the young lady, okay? Ladies from the Bronx love McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I'm old enough to remember when Cardi B. used to come to breakfast club way, way, way back in the day, and after the interview, she used to be wanting to go to McDonald's. Okay? So it's something about Bronx women in McDonald's. Not to mention, I tell you all the time, the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida and eating in McDonald's, late at night,
Starting point is 01:00:30 When you are a popular rapper like Ice Spice with no security is absolutely crazy. And this woman, Bayan, or Bayan, or Viya, that's her name, proved why. See, Ice Spice was mined in her business, eating her four-piece nugget, fries, and drink. And this woman walked up to her and asked, where are you from? Those are the three words you do not want to hear when you're on the West Coast, especially L.A., and then things escalated quickly. The woman in the video, she's telling her side of the story. I think that's Ice Spice over there.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I go up to them, and I'm giving her. The other girl she was with compliment. Ice spice was just being rude. She was like, why are you over here? You can't be out here disrespecting people. She calls me a bitch. So after she calls me a bitch, I hit her. And I hear Ice Spice in the middle of the street.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Talking about somewhere is that bitch, I don't want to fight her. That's what me and her fought again. She was being disrespectful and rude, which is why we fought. By, you do realize we saw the video, right? Goofy ass. You do realize we can hear the video, okay? All right, nothing you said, Ice Spice said in that video we heard. What I saw was you approached ice spices table looking like you was on the BS.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Okay, I didn't like the way you approached the table. Just because you are a fan of someone doesn't mean you can disrespect their boundaries or you're entitled to anything from that person. Okay, none of what you said justifies slapping ice spice. All right. This is why I want people like ice spice to always have security. Okay, well, number one, don't be eating at McDonald's late at night when you ice spice. Okay, that's number one. Get your number three to go, all right?
Starting point is 01:01:58 But if you're going to be out, have your security, because security slows a lot of that down. Security is for defense, all right? The great E40 told me years ago, right here on Breakfast Club, said, Charlemagne, you got to make it difficult for people. When you're worth something, you got to act like it, and you've got to protect it. Okay, that situation could have been a whole lot worse.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Okay, it could have been a whole lot worse for Ice Spice. Thank God it wasn't, but it could have been. And that's what security slows down. Not to mention sometimes security has to make an example of people. And that's what I wish would have happened. Okay, yes, when I see videos like Vaya, whatever her name is, I want to see them get beat up, okay? I really do because the only reason things like this keep happening
Starting point is 01:02:40 because we don't see the consequences of these stupid ass actions. We need to see people like her get beat up. We need to see them getting shot sometime, okay? Not killed, but a little flesh wound, okay? And then we need to see them going to jail, okay? This sense of entitlement that some people are. have just because we share in the same space is ridiculous, all right? People like Ice Spice
Starting point is 01:03:02 are not extras in your reality show. That's a human that deserves respect just like you deserve respect and disrespect should not be tolerated on any level. Look, I don't know if Ice Spice was rude to her or not. That's not what I saw on the video. I don't care. I watched the video and I didn't
Starting point is 01:03:18 like the way Vaya or Vaya approached the table. Just because you are a fan of someone doesn't mean you get to disrespect their boundaries. You came in on BS and that's why we need her in jail. We need her prosecuted to the highest extent of the law. We don't need people like Viya just roaming the street.
Starting point is 01:03:35 We have to do what we have to do to get her off the street because she's clearly not right in the head. Okay, you walk up on a person in McDonald's, then you make a video about it and lie on her to justify your foolishness. Call the LAPD. Okay, I want her locked up by this afternoon if they haven't got her already. Okay, what's her last name? I don't know. Plaster it all over social media. Tell the proper authorities what she can be.
Starting point is 01:03:58 found. This isn't snitching because none of us are criminals. Okay, it's crime prevention. If you want to see how someone is going treat you, watch how they treat other people. So if you think this woman wouldn't do you like she did Ice Spice, you bugging. But you also have to make an example out of people like her.
Starting point is 01:04:14 All right. And it's not enough consequences for situations like that. You know? And the fact that she just goes online. It's like they want the attention. You know what I mean? Yeah, you assaulted somebody. You're assaulted somebody. I'm going to go on the line and I'm going to tell you I assault.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Did you, so I get locked up. And then you get mad when people tell on you. You be like, yo, y'-knit-in-you-knit-on-your-knit-on. You snitched on yourself, boo. There's cameras. Don't I'm an ass kid. But let me ask you a question, though. Vio, whatever the lady's name, was completely wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Mm-hmm. Right? But Ice Spice did have a friend there. She did. And the friend didn't do anything. Man, a girl would have been clawing to get out of the restaurant. Vaya, whatever, would have been clawing to get out of the restaurant because my friend would have been on that ass.
Starting point is 01:04:54 What is you talking about? We're going to bank you. As soon as you come over with the BS, it's two on one. Oh, we're jumping. What are we doing? We're jumping you. You got French fries all in your hair. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Now, the girl that she was with, probably not a fighter, probably none of that. But it's like she was the only one. She's the only one. As soon as you see, you know what I'm saying? Fist's swinging. You get up. Hop over the table. The French she would wish you had told her not to go to McDonald's in the first place.
Starting point is 01:05:16 How about that? But they both was eating though. They both wanted it. Hey, you know we can get this to go, right? We don't have to eat in here. You don't have your security with you, I see. You don't have to be here right now. Exactly.
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Starting point is 01:09:17 Shalameen de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawn LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. The legend. Wanda Sykes, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Thank you. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:09:27 How are you feeling? How are you feeling? I'm feeling great. I feel great. My energy, I got good energy right now, you know. Right now Right now Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:36 I'm sure I'm gonna crash in about an hour Why you've been up all night Of them? All night But you know I had a little thing last night Of a screening
Starting point is 01:09:45 Of the movie Oh for undercar Yeah Which is out right now Yeah so we I may have had a few drinks Oh yeah So it's a day
Starting point is 01:09:54 We went to the car Beconne I know you best Did that one was That was last night Yeah we did Yes But she had a part
Starting point is 01:09:59 Where she gives out $5,000 To the person Who can shake Day after best And so And you won? No, I didn't want.
Starting point is 01:10:05 He tried. He tried. You know, in these trying financial times, they was out there shaking that ass to get that money. Well, $5,000, yeah. But I was upset because... I had to slip the disc. Damn!
Starting point is 01:10:17 That's right. I got upset because it was all women, and then this guy came out there popping ass better than all of them, and he won. And I'm like, y'all, I ain't like that. Shalda means eyes on him all night. No, he's taking money out of these women pockets. Like, you ain't had to do that?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah. Ass is ass. Thank you. Well, this is one of the first time on the show. Welcome. It is, right? Yes. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I don't think I've never been in studio. I think you did one time on Zoom. Yeah, I think you called on Zoom. Maybe one time it did, doing the COVID years. Yes, yes. I did. I did a Zoom. Before we get into Undercutt, I want to start from the beginning, if you don't mind.
Starting point is 01:10:51 For people that don't know, Wanda, from the 757. Okay. How did you get into the arts? What made you want to get into the arts and comedy and acting and all of that? You know, I grew up in that time where it was, variety shows was on you know like Flip Wilson even Ed Sullivan all back then so
Starting point is 01:11:10 and my family you know we watched all that you know watched all those shows and and I just remember sitting together and laughing and so that always stayed with me but you know my dad was in military and also I grew up where you go to school
Starting point is 01:11:28 you get a good education you get a good job and that's what I was doing working for the government I worked at NSA, when I came out at our beloved Hampton University. I ended up at NSA and and I just got to a point where I was like this is not where I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Like, you know, the job is great. Security and all, but I know something else I was supposed to be doing. I was like looking at my high school yearbook and everybody had written things like, you're so funny. Even teachers were like, you should be on stage. I was like, you know, I'm going to write some jokes.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And I just wrote jokes and went to a radio station was having a talent competition and comedy was a category. So I was like, all right, let me try audition. And they said, okay, yeah, and I got on stage and did it. And just like the lights came on for me. From right away, they knew you knew. I knew it. I knew it. I knew.
Starting point is 01:12:30 I knew, but I just knew like, ah, I felt like I was in my skin. Like this is this what I'm supposed to be. Wow. Was the Chris Rock show one of your first big breaks? Absolutely. Okay. When you were writing on Chris Rock show. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yes. Absolutely. Writing on Chris Rock show was my huge break. Yeah. Chris, you know, he was doing, bring the pain. And I opened for him at Carolines while he was working on that. And he said, you know what? He just remembered me.
Starting point is 01:12:58 So when he got his show, I got a, somebody calls like, hey, can you submit some writing materials. I was like, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Y'all had a dream team. It was Louis C.K., Chris Rock, Ali Leroy, Lance Krauser. What? What were those rooms like? Oh, man, I was the only woman in there, but it was great. Those guys were funny.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And Chris, what I love about Chris is, he's a great general manager. You know what I'm saying? He put together a team and just let everybody be themselves. Like, it's quirky and out there, you know. And we were able to produce our own bits. You know, he would look at something, put his thing on it, and, hey, all right, you know, do this, do this. But just let us, just let us go. Were you ever intimidated being an only woman?
Starting point is 01:13:49 A little bit, you know, a little bit. I felt like, okay, I can't mess this up because we ain't going to hire another woman. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? That's how it works with us. Like you get in the door, you got to make sure you leave it open. Yeah. And or open it wider for somebody else to come through.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Like, leave your mark. So, um, a little bit, but they were very supportive. All the guys were real support, especially Louis. Louis was real cool with me. Um, I mean, he ain't fucking from it. I guess I ain't shake that ass or no. You heard about that. Do you feel left out?
Starting point is 01:14:27 You was like, damn. You know what? I was like, God damn. That fuck was like right down there. It was like two doors down. Two doors down. It was my office, Ali, Lance, and then Louis, right there.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Nothing. But I mean, y'all used to be on the phone, so sometimes you got quiet on the phone. But the thing I used to love about the Chris Rock show, it was just full of uncomfortable truth. Yes. Even that whole era was full of uncomfortable truths, right? Do you think comedy is still allowed to be that honest?
Starting point is 01:14:58 I'm wearing an era now where everybody wants jokes, but they don't want the truth that comes. No, you know what? I think you're allowed to do it, but it's just who wants to do it. You know what I'm saying? It's like I think it's there, but I think people are,
Starting point is 01:15:15 you know, if I'm trying to fill an arena, you can't, you know what I'm saying? You can't be that comment. You got to be, you got to appeal to the masses. And sometimes right now, what the masses want to hear, here it's it's ugly, you know?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Yeah, so, yeah, so, but I think you can do it, though. You still can do it. Yeah. All right, good. I'm glad you said that. I'm gonna do it. Do what? Do it. Let me just do it. Just do it. Just do it. That's what I'm gonna do. Exactly. I mean, you're funny. Thank you. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Yeah, but when I do me, when I do funny, people will be getting mad. Who gives me? You can't do it for them. You got to do it for you. You got to say what you want And hey, if what I want to say And what makes me feel You know, good about my gift that I have If I'm only going to get
Starting point is 01:16:11 Maybe 600 people Then that's those are the 600 people that, you know You're supposed to be speaking to But do people get offended too fast? You know what I'm saying? But if you want, oh, I want to, you know Then you got to compromise But do people get offended too fast
Starting point is 01:16:27 Where it's like, you know, back then jokes just fluid. It didn't matter. You made fun of everybody. Exactly. It could be the crippled person. It could be to this person. It didn't matter. People laugh. Now it doesn't seem like they laughed. They look for a reason to say, you know, we're going to boycott your next show. Oh, yeah. Everybody wants to, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:42 I even hate using you know, like everybody. But a lot of people like to be the critic. They want to be the police. And you know, so it's like if you say something and it might offend you, but you got to at where that person is coming from.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Maybe, you know, maybe their life, their perspective is different from what, you know, you're offended, but you're not staying in my shoes. You don't see it from my perspective. So I think that's what we've gotten away from is seeing it from. I got to, you know, see where you're coming from. I got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And I think it's empathy, really. It's empathy. We've gotten away from. that people don't don't get that. Yeah, and there's more than one perspective on one thing, you know. Do you think there's a, like, when you talk about, like, empathy and people, you know, having an opinion about jokes, I feel like the punching up, punching down conversation gets brought up a lot in that, right? Right. Do you feel like there's a fine line between that?
Starting point is 01:17:47 Like, do you think somebody can punch down? People still respect what they're saying, have empathy and they have actual take, or do you feel like that's always going to end in somebody being upset and you've been trying to cancel you? I have no problem. Like me, I always try to try to punch up. I always try to punch up because I feel like, but that's me. I know the, and I always call it a gift, the gift that I have. And so I try to use that for not just myself, but for, I mean, naturally, I'm in a position where I'm a black woman and queer. So I'm always coming from, you know, going up.
Starting point is 01:18:29 to go up, you know. I didn't know you were queer. You have the lie. You're a clown. You took them serious? Did you take them serious? Did you take them serious? Like how?
Starting point is 01:18:41 She was looking like how. I said, always moisture eyes. Always beautiful skin, moisture. Oh, I know you. It's quick. I'm sorry. Jesus. Okay, continue.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I'm sorry. Yeah, but yeah, I think. But if you Punch down If it's funny I'm gonna I'm gonna laugh But it's a difference
Starting point is 01:19:07 It's a difference of punching down And coming from a A perspective of I I hate you or you're It will be mean You can punch down and be funny But if it's coming from a place of love
Starting point is 01:19:23 You know Like one of Chris's Good jokes one of my favorite jokes is punching down but when he says uh uh about uh I have my money in books you know they can't read but it's also true my daddy told me that forever growing up you want to hide something from a black brother put in the book yeah exactly but it's it's a funny joke and it's also like hey a little message there you know what I have a little message there so So start reading.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Exactly. Exactly. Have you ever held back a joke in today's climate? To date, no. Uh-uh. I know I wrote a joke on Chris, on Chris Rock Show. And it's like, oh, God, what was that? It was bad.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Damn, it was bad in the 90s. I got to hear. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. Remember Ray Caruth? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yeah. Play for the Pathers. Yeah. And he shot his girlfriend who was pregnant. And he had the baby. And I was like, yeah, you know what was raised. Jesus. Damn.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Damn. Jesus. Right. That might have been a little too far back. That was a horrible joke. But did the room laugh? The kid killed at rehearsal. And Chris was like, you know I ain't going to do that joke.
Starting point is 01:20:57 I was like, I know. I was like, you know. And you shouldn't. He's like, damn good joke. You know I ain't gonna do that. I was like, and you shouldn't. Now, you got the new movie Undercard, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And it's a drama. You know, you've been making people laugh your whole career. Right. What made you say, let me stop joking and give you some pain? Let me step into this pain real quick. You know, I was not looking for the role at all,
Starting point is 01:21:25 but the director and co-writer, Tamika Miller, me and she was like look I got this project I want you to check it out I want you to do this role and I read the script and I was like it's a drama and I was like so and it was good you know and I
Starting point is 01:21:44 I just called out and say so what Queen Latifah said no and she was like no stupid that it must be that that was right and she was like no I really want you to play this part.
Starting point is 01:22:03 So I didn't believe it at first. Like, ooh, can I pull this off? And, yeah, she just talked me through it and how she wanted to shoot it and the cast that she, you know, was going to build around me. And I felt like she made me believe I could do it. Do you still audition for roles or no? Oh, I'm the worst at audition.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I can't. Really? Yeah, I can't. Like my Asian songs, like, Like, hey, they want you to, for this part. I was like, okay. So the audition, I was like, oh, no, it's a pass, man. What about auditions?
Starting point is 01:22:36 I don't know. I suck at auditions. Really? I have actually, like, been in a situation, casting people, and, you know, holding the script and auditioning. And they've actually taken the pages out in my hand and say, thank you. Really? Yeah, well, I'm like, I did. Like, early on or like, now?
Starting point is 01:22:56 What was that? That's recent? No, no, no. Oh, early on. I'm like, I'm like, really. I was like, ah, yeah. The audition is not for me. And what is like you do?
Starting point is 01:23:03 Is it memorizing lines, don't get nervous in front of the people? Or is it stiff? I don't know. I just, I'm just horrible at it. But if you give me the part, you know, it's a real job. I got to show, I'm going to show up. I'm going to bring it because I'm like, hey, you know, I got to, I got to deliver. But if it's like, I'm not good at trying out.
Starting point is 01:23:24 I don't, I don't, I don't know. How are you before you take the stage then? Because I would feel like that's kind of the same thing a little bit. No, not really. Because, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I get little butterflies before I go out, but that's good. That's good. I mean, it made something.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah, yeah, it made something, yeah. But I don't know, you give me a script. I got audition. In this movie, Undercar, were you fighting the natural urge? Does it be funny? Or was it? Yeah. A little bit of that.
Starting point is 01:23:52 I mean, there was like some moments where I was like, oh, man, this would be real funny if I said this right now. Like, there's a scene, a beach scene, with a little girl she runs out, you know, to the water. And I was like, hey, you know, I was like, Mika, wait. And I want to say, you know, I can't swim. Like, you know, yeah, it ain't gone out there if you want to. You know, but no. And also, you know, it's really, you know, tight budget and tight, you know, on time.
Starting point is 01:24:22 So it was like, there was no room to, like, you know, play around. Yeah. Was there anything that you took from this character? and like portraying this character that you're taking back to the stage, which you even know was a drama? Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, I think it's, it's her, where you have to like,
Starting point is 01:24:43 you know, like forgive yourself, you know, her character, she had to get to a point to where she had to really, like, forgive herself and to be accountable, you know. And so there's this, so there's moments on, on stage, with my comedy where you know I find ways to to use that I think where do you for giving yourself about for right now like currently on stage like what are those thoughts um I don't I think it's more about um you know like like you you want to do better or you know be a better person you know a better wife better mother um that
Starting point is 01:25:30 Areca roof joke? That too. Yep, absolute. Yep, that. I can't believe, I can't even believe I said that. Yeah. I repeated that. But, yeah, it's just those moments.
Starting point is 01:25:40 But, hey, that's why we keep going, though. Because there's always an opportunity to do better the next day or the next minute. I want to ask you about identity, too, right? Because, you know, you talk about, we were talking about what people think and what people feel. Like, even when I look at the character, Cheryl and the undercard, does she have to be called a butch? Because it says a butch retired boxing champion and recovering alcohol Couldn't it just be retired boxing champion
Starting point is 01:26:04 and recovering alcohol? It says it plays a Jack Butch A Jack Butch in the news school's drama Oh you didn't know that? Oh, you didn't know that. Jack Butch? I know that's right. Come on.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Come on, Michelle. Let's go. What's the point of the butch? I mean, do we need that? I mean, that doesn't bother me, I guess. That doesn't bother me. Her character, you know, she was a former boxer, so I guess it's the, you know, if that's how the writer saw the character, then I'm like, okay, so yeah, I'm here and she was in shake. I say, I say to that, thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:47 So I have to ask you, what happened to the upshaws? Because we had Mike Epps up here, and this is what he said. Wanda Sykes and the other lady, Regina Hicks, they just couldn't see eye to eye. You know, the lady Virginia Hicks They both did a great job, first of all, before I go any further They did such a great job writing We had the best writing team
Starting point is 01:27:09 I mean, man, the writing team was incredible But I think the lady Regina She had an agenda That she wanted to push With the show You know, and everybody didn't agree with it all the time You know, they wanted the show to go this way show started off this way and then it starts slanting
Starting point is 01:27:28 then it went over there and then it went over there we should have just kept it right there in the middle might have did 10 seasons but I think it was about in the writing I love Mike I love Mike dearly and I think the show just kind of like ran its course the kids got older we you know
Starting point is 01:27:50 Mike is the show was his idea he he came to me and was like, hey, I want to do the show about a working class family in the Midwest. And that's what we delivered. I think the writers and the showrunner, Regina, we, yeah, it was all love,
Starting point is 01:28:13 but everybody's going to have a difference of opinions. And sometimes, you know, voices get, you know, we raise our voices when you're passionate about what you're doing. So I think overall, we all wanted to make the best show possible. We just wanted to, but it was just a difference of opinions, that's all.
Starting point is 01:28:33 But I think what we delivered, everybody was, was happy with it. Oh, they live and breathe by that show. Yeah. My mom, you can't tell her not show of that show. I love that show. I love everybody worked on that show. I love what we did
Starting point is 01:28:47 and hated to see it in, but really, I mean, it was, I thought we did a good job and and I'm happy with the way you know, we finished it. So you wanted to keep it going? If we could have done another season, I would have, yeah, I would have signed it for another season.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Everybody said it was your fault. I don't think nobody said that. No. I made that up. I was the same. I know, absolutely no one said that. It is, you know. But,
Starting point is 01:29:18 but no, yeah. Yeah, but no, I think Netflix, they were a great partner. and I think it was And we knew We knew going into that last season That was the last season So we got to end it the way we wanted to end it
Starting point is 01:29:32 Yeah How do you make a special special material-wise Push it Push the limits Don't go up and just do it Chris Rock always told me that From the jump Like from my first special
Starting point is 01:29:44 Which it was a half hour He's like don't go up there and do a set That make it special So you got to push yourself polish it, you know, just go, go to a place where, you know, challenge yourself. Go go to areas where people are going to be a little bit on this, on their seats or like, oh, damn, she said that. I've been wanting to say that, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:08 So, yeah, that's. I don't think people realize how close you and Chris are. I remember that night of the Oscars you were hosting, and I remember you saying you were physically sick. And everybody's like, why is she physically sick? I know, but y'all don't realize how close you are. close one than yeah Chris up
Starting point is 01:30:22 right right no people people don't that I caught a lot of flat from that
Starting point is 01:30:27 like because I said you know about how I felt wow but I'm like y'all got realized I was working
Starting point is 01:30:35 that night yeah and I watched my coworker get popped you know at work you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:30:45 so it's yeah you're not that's not supposed to happen and so yeah so I really
Starting point is 01:30:53 I was upset like physically upset by that and then it just even sickened me more watching everybody just sit out there and you know
Starting point is 01:31:03 and not react and then to give that man an award afterwards I was like I'm done with y'all I really will
Starting point is 01:31:12 I was like done with all this I know will will Smith reached out to apologize to you too for overshadowing that night yeah he did he called
Starting point is 01:31:19 He called, but you know what? I was actually physically sick. I had a nasty, like, sinus infection, so I didn't even pick up, but he left the message. Have you ever had an extensive conversation after? Oh, sorry. Oh, maybe I just want to need you call them back. Yeah, same thing. You know what?
Starting point is 01:31:35 I was like, I received it. I accepted. I'm good. Yeah. What did your mama say about seeing the black people act up in front of all them white people? Oh, my God. Oh, you see.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Exactly. Exactly. Lord Jesus. why? Why they do that wonder? I was like, I know, Ma, I know. All the white people just looking at them. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:32:02 They ain't never going to give us nothing else. Did you see when those fake reports were circulating that Will Smith and Chris, Chris Rock were supposed to sit down together and do like a one-on-one? It was fake, though. It was fake, and I cleared it up and reporting. But I was wondering if you saw it and if you were like, they ain't no way. in hell that's going to happen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was like, nah, no, no. Yeah, I knew that. I mean, I know Chris. I'm like, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:32:29 So you would never really host the Oscars again? I'm not going to say I would never host again, but I probably will never host again. Why? Honestly, I'm a big mom who's a kid. I love it. You traumatized like in real life? I'm not going to say I'm traumatized in real life. It's a thankless job.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Nobody, yeah. Yeah, and, you know. Don't seem like it's no upside to it. It's a great job. Exactly. There's no, yeah. There's no, yeah. I mean, it would have to be some, like,
Starting point is 01:33:05 maybe, you know what? Maybe if somebody, you know, did, you know, Uptown Saturday night, did a remake, and that's, you know, and that's up. Maybe I'll host. Yeah. It's like upper best picture. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:18 That makes sense. When it's all said and done, what do you want Wanda Sykes to mean to comedy? Hmm. I want Wanda Sykes to mean that, you know, she was a voice for those who didn't have a voice, that she was, you know, common sense that she gave it her all. Yeah, and funny.
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