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Episode Date: January 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:50 Alright, well let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club on this Friday. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now.
Starting point is 00:03:58 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hi, good morning. My name's Katrina. Hey Katrina, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Hi, good morning. My name's Katrina. Hey Katrina, good morning. Get it off your chest. I just wanted to talk about how I took my car about a week ago to get fixed on a Saturday. They gave me back the car in worse condition that I took my car to them. Nothing's coming on on the dash. It doesn't even run.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And I just wanted to talk about loyalty and how it's good to keep customers. And they told me they were gonna refund me and then they just cut off all communication from me. So I just wanted to get that off my chest that it's good to be loyal to your customers and keep a good rep for yourself and your company. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah, but you didn't say the company name. Yeah, what's the name of it? What's the small? I live in a small town in Kansas and I had known this guy for like since I was a teenager I'm 42 years old right now and I've been taking my car to this guy He passed away a couple years ago and his daughter took over the business He's not the famous him because he was a good person that was trustworthy and I guess obviously she's not the same so she's a mechanic Um, I guess so because she came to my house Monday to supposedly Fix it it try to fix it again to this the timing valve solenoid or something
Starting point is 00:05:18 And it still didn't work. So she said she was gonna come tomorrow and then she didn't me yesterday and then she didn't answer me at All yesterday. Mmm. Damn. Well you try again today because you just never know. She could have been in an accident, she could have had a family emergency, it could be anything. Give her another day before you start wildin' out. Yeah, um, no I think my patience has worn up and I, in order to keep my peace I just wanna let it go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Alright mama. Alright mama. Well have a good one. Well thank you y'all have a great day. Peace. You too. Them stud mechanics, it's crazy. You stupid. I have a good one. Well. Thank you. Y'all have a great day you do some stuff mechanics crazy You still pick now trust the stud mechanic man. That's right. You trust way They just look like they can know how to fix the car
Starting point is 00:05:54 Until you got this situation that that lady got she probably don't even cheat if I'll trust a stud mechanic. I ain't gonna front That mechanic I'll be like man,, please, here, take that ridge. And I know you know what to do with a screwdriver. Yo, shut up, man. Yo! Yo! How long was this? Good morning, Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Good morning. What's up, what's up, brother? What's your name? KC out of Ohio. I wanted to get off my test. Charlie Lane, I wanted to set you straight on. Your narrative about the Drake storing Kendrick Lamar. The only reason Drake is storing,
Starting point is 00:06:26 he don't even store Kendrick, he's storing the label because prior to the beef, where a lot of people don't know it, he was in negotiations with the label because his numbers was up. They came to the table and he liked it. Like what you all doing, bro? Hey, shut up, man.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You learned that off TikTok and YouTube. Drake did a deal, Drake did a deal. No, actually I follow Entertainment News. I actually follow Celebrity Entertainment News. Let me ask you a question. He only fooling them because they used the numbers and the metrics to load a deal that they was offering for his new contract.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That's it. That's not true, but let me ask you a question. When is the last time Drake did his deal, since you follow Entertainment News? When is the last time he read up? When Drake signed his last deal, he read up his deal in 2019 when him and him and Wang renegotiated after the debacle
Starting point is 00:07:11 when Wang going to jail. Nope. It was 2022. He got $400 million. Nope. $400 million. Yes. With UMG? Yes. Yes. 2022. Look it up. Mr. I do my research. Mr. I know what I'm talking about because I follow entertainment news. I do follow entertainment news
Starting point is 00:07:29 and I can miss some points sometimes but for the majority of it, the narrative to get show the narrative of the story, the lawsuit is not about him screwing over the stars. He's screwing the label over them, edging the metrics to make it look better for their benefit. Here's the thing, man. Nobody has benefited from that system doing that more than Drake. Okay? Like that's just a fact. So here's the thing. You know how they say men lie, women lie, numbers don't?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Drake is telling you that numbers lie because he's telling you that this is what these systems do. You think that system has never done that for him? You think see slide was really a number one record sir like really you really think that sir when you got when you got a system behind you that can inflate numbers they can make things number one and they did that with to see slide but I didn't have to do that with not like us I can tell you that much get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent you can hit us up. It's the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast club This is your time to get it off your chest 805 850 51 we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Good morning, this is Adrena. Hey Adrena, get it off your chest mama. I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to reach out to your friends and family, check on them to make sure that they're okay. It's been almost eight months since I lost my soulmate to suicide and when he committed suicide we were on a break but we were still very much in communication with each other but I knew something was wrong and my gut told me to go check, but my head said, no, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And had I listened to my gut, I would have known something was wrong and could have been able to help. Also, with women and their children, when you have a man that wants to be in the lives of their kids, you shouldn't use the child as a pawn to get back because no one ever ever ever thought that he would commit suicide because of what was happening with his children.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So I just want people to just be aware of those things. Absolutely. Yes ma'am. Well definitely sending you healing energy queen. Yes. Thank you Alright mama. Have a blessed day. You guys do the same You got some money hello, who's this? Hello? This is blind Tommy. What's up blind Tommy? Come a blind, broke comedian. So you gotta pick one now. Which one you mad about? Being blind, being broke, or being a comedian?
Starting point is 00:10:31 All three. Well, you should learn to see the bright side. Damn it. How you know you're broke? How you know people not just stealing your money? I ain't got nobody to steal. I think you might be looking at this wrong. Were you born blind?
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Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah, hold on Tommy. Yeah. Hold on, Tommy, okay? All right. Hold on, Tommy. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Along the road, filling in for Jess. We got a special guest in the building. Ladies and gentlemen, she's back miss Tesla and figure welcome back Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. How you feeling? What's happening Tess?
Starting point is 00:12:11 What's happening Charlamagne the guy? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning How you feeling this morning? I'm feeling good. I am I'm really feeling good It's good to be back back with family chop it up with y'all drop some dimes name some names. Okay Yeah, here to get rid of them. We're dropping dimes on Taz. We're dropping dimes on everybody from top to bottom. Let's start right off with the presidential election. Why did VP Harris lose? Oh man, I should have brought my white board. That many? Yeah. That many reasons. Yeah, and the reason why this is important, I literally have my stuff in order because a lot of people, Envy said, you know, she lost because of this reason, lost because of that and it's really in the midwest a tornado requires water humidity wind you know
Starting point is 00:12:51 multiple things not one reason it's not one reason and when i hear people saying you know oh if he just did better with the messaging or if they did better with the media i've really kind of put together a list of flow chart on how basically a colossal from top to bottom. So you're doing an autopsy. Yeah we're doing an autopsy. So if we just really take it from the top as we all said Joe Biden should have never ran. We have to first you know start there. Should have never ran. He said it was a one-time, was gonna be a one-term president. We talked about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that lie to say hey I'm only gonna run one term. I'm coming in just to stop Trump. Immediately then, they should have started building a base,
Starting point is 00:13:29 immediately, right out the gate. Trump was still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show. We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing year round.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And that's why I blame a lot of the people at the top who have the ear of the candidates and campaign consultants because they've been told this multiple, multiple times. So we should have found a white man right then and there who was gonna be next in line to build a beach. A white man. A white man. A young white man. Absolutely. Young white man right then and there.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And it's not Governor Newsom, by the way. A lot of people keep saying that Governor Newsom will get swamped. So from the door you didn't think Kamala was gonna win. No, right at the gate. No, no, no. Because she's a black woman or? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So that's number three. So let's first get this. So they should have established a bitch that didn't do that. Governor Newsom, I just want to put that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater, he would have got swamped. You have to remember he literally passed the bill K-12 to have shared bathrooms with gender. So imagine what conservatives would have deal with that all over the nation, the homelessness and all of that. So then yes, number three, America was not going to vote for a woman of color, period. In
Starting point is 00:14:32 the history of black women and white women allyship, alleged allyship, I have never known a white woman to give a job to a woman of color before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries. Just not gonna happen you ever ever why would ever say you know I think you're more qualified go ahead and take it they didn't give it to Hillary Clinton they were not gonna give it to her I know there was hope I know you talked about you know believing in us but it was never about us believing in us it was about us knowing them it's not about being qualified this was when it came down to saying they didn't give it to Hillary Clinton why would they give it
Starting point is 00:15:03 to Harris so that was to me an error right out the gate, but we had no choice because Biden- I think Kamala as a black woman is the only reason, well first of all, two things. The last two elections, the Democratic party need to be thinking black women, right? Because if it wasn't for Jim Clyburn telling Joe Biden, hey, I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden. He went South Carolina changes the complexion of his campaign. If it wasn't for Kamala Harris in 2020, I think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there and voted for President Biden.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I didn't vote for President Biden. I voted for Vice President Kamala Harris. I also think in 2024, when you look at the fact that Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like completely dead in the water and Kamala Harris came to top of the ticket, raised all of this money, ended up having the second most votes of any Democratic nominee ever with 74 million votes. I think that only happens because she's a black woman. Well two things can be true at the same time. There can be some positives that came with that but there also can be some negatives where we look at the data we don't have to guess. We looked at where
Starting point is 00:16:02 white women aligned. We looked at where the Latino community aligned we looked at the bottom line data this show Latino Latino men was that was a surprise yeah why was it a surprise you don't know no no Latino's have always they did that before 50 50 they've always when you look at one that you know I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign in Michigan I was only black woman on the ground in 2015 they helped flip that state Latino community has always been divided. When you look at Florida and you look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative.
Starting point is 00:16:29 When you look at the Bernie Sanders, the left side, the California, they always go left. They have always strategically, and I ain't mad about it, they've always strategically been able to have leverage because they go 50-50. You remember when Joe Biden told black leaders when he won it, right after he said, yeah, right after he said, I owe you black people. Remember when they had the meeting and they leaked the tapes in front of the Al Sharpton and all them and said, y'all need to go follow the Latino community because they're the ones that have the leverage. So I'm not mad at it, but we need to talk about it for what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:54 There might be a black and brown coalition in New York. I've talked about that all the time, but when you talk about the set, that changed too. They're moving over. When you talk about the South, when you talk about the Midwest, and particularly when you talk about the West, there is no black-brown coalition, and it's okay for people to vote their interests. I also got news for you. Black men are conservative, doing my Joe Biden whisper. Black people are conservative. I don't know why people want to keep, you know, making that not an issue. So when you're talking about black men, and you're talking about other black people with majority of the country in the south, majority are moderate. I know progressives want to sell a different story, but black people for the most part are moderate
Starting point is 00:17:29 and a lot of them lean conservative. We're going to get into that when we get into the messaging. But let's just kind of go back a little bit. I agree that there was some positives to it. But when it came down to it, when we looked at race, white women to me, just like they did in the midterm, just like they did when they were with Obama, then they went with Trump, and then they went back to Democrats in the midterms, and then they flipped back. When you're talking about white supremacy and talking about positioning, like what they did with the women's suffrage movement, I just didn't see them doing it for a black woman over them. They didn't do it with Hillary Clinton. The only person that ever beat
Starting point is 00:18:00 Donald Trump is Joe Biden, and I agree it was dead. But 55% of white women voted for Trump over Biden. Right, to align with white supremacy. To align, because this is about white supremacy. This is about would they rather have their household ahead of you as a black man? Or they vote with their husbands. That's exactly it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And nothing's wrong. And people need to stop these pundits getting them in there. They went against their own interests. No, their interests is their household. Your interest is your interest, my interest is my interest. When I keep hearing people say that, they went against their own interest. No, their interest is their household. Your interest is your interest. My interest is my interest. When I keep hearing people say that they went against their own interest, no, they actually aligned with their interest, which is white man, white woman, black man, black woman. That's the order. That's how it is. Black people are the side check. Bottom line, we need to just accept that. I know we want to say black girl magic. I know we want
Starting point is 00:18:39 to say, oh, because blackness and that. Black women can't save this country. We need to stop selling that dream. Let's get in position and understand what we can do, which is why I was talking about the local and state level and stop trying to sell this timeshare scam. Because to me, it was a timeshare scam. I agree with you that there was really no other choice because Joe Biden was trash. We get that he was trash. So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris. Now she's a Democrat nominee.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Okay, so cool. We with that. Black women raised $30 million after gate. Black women raised $30 million after gate. Black men raised $30 million after gate. So now we're having to deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this billion dollar bag? And that's the issue when we get into how they spent the money. I didn't think she had a chance in hell, but once you decided to move forward, okay, so
Starting point is 00:19:18 what do we do with the money? Black voters, they lost black voters across the board. That one, two percent across the board makes a difference when you're talking about Michigan. It makes a difference in North Carolina. So that's where we get into your concern when you talk about messaging, where the messaging was all wrong. All right. We got more with Teslin Figaro when we come back.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Teslin Figaro. Lauren?
Starting point is 00:19:43 So what you think about Trump's cabinet and his choices for his cabinet right now? We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Teslin Figaro. Lauren? So what you think about Trump's cabinet and his choices for his cabinet right now? Because these are the people that are going to have to be. Yeah, I don't think nothing. I think Republicans ran, Democrats ran, is going to be a dictator. Guess what? They want a dictator.
Starting point is 00:19:58 We've been saying this forever. We've been talking about this day of bipartisanship and let's just get it through Congress. You know I said it a million times, like with the George Floyd Act, reducing college debt. Do an executive order. Everybody said, you can't do an executive order. You got to go through Congress. Republicans are going to change it back. If you get in, they're going to change it back.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Guess what? Republicans don't give a damn about changing it back. They changed back the role of our state. They changed back a whole bunch of shit, Obamacare and everything else. Democrats refuse to work as a dictator. They want a dictator. Everybody's saying, oh man, he's going to be a dictator. Right. That's why they want it. Oh yes. He's going to take migrants out. Yes. That's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that online. It's driving me crazy. Oh Latinos. Oh man. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Y'all about to see. They want the immigrant. People who are legal, who come out of this country legal, they are literally telling you yes. We don't support illegal immigration. So people that thinking they saying something on social media, y'all gonna see. No, they want a dictator. Democrats ran on democracy. They ran on dictators. Y'all gonna be a dictator day one. That's exactly what they want. A dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line. Somebody gonna get damn bad what Congress is talking about. Somebody that say I don't I don't care what the rules are. I'm gonna do what I want to do. They want a gangster. Period. Yeah I agree with that. I don't, I don't care what the rules are. I'm going to do what I want to do. They want a gangster period.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah, I agree with that. I wouldn't say dictate, but they want somebody that don't give a f**k. Well, he said he was going to be dictated on day one. He said that on day one. But I think what they, what people mean when they say, they just want somebody that's going to say, you know what, as long as things are getting done for the people, I don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did a great monologue and he was just like, Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't follow the norms they gonna find those loopholes to break inside you two
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Starting point is 00:26:25 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Which is kind of like dictatorship though. Nah, I wouldn't call it dictatorship. I call it dictatorship. He said he gonna do what he wanna do. That's what he gonna do. He ain't gonna play the political game.
Starting point is 00:26:37 He ain't gonna play the political, so I mean that's saying I'm gonna do this and if you don't do it, it's gonna be hell to pay. If you don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make sure you don't win. If you don't do it, I'm gonna call be hell to pay. If you don't do it, you know, I'm going to make sure you don't win. If you don't do it, I'm going to call you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin. They let, they set up now Joe Manchin's seat is to a Republican.
Starting point is 00:26:50 We've been talking about this. This has been going on for the last 15 years. This loss was not just what happened in the last 100 days. This has been at least from my experience, 2007, I can name year over year over year on what's going on, what happened on how we got it. And then another thing I want to bring up on this messaging, abortion. Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy. Fell right out the gate.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You had states like Arizona and Nevada that had abortion on the ballot. So Democrats' mindset is, let's put abortion on the ballot and that's going to bring, you know, people, so people know, get out the vote, GOTV, that's how you get out the vote. Oh, they're going to go to the polls now that abortion is on the ballot. Well, what you did, meatball head, you actually allow Republican women who were pro-choice to actually vote for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's no rule that says if you support pro-choice that you won't vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada
Starting point is 00:27:39 and in Arizona literally have the opportunity to bring abortion back and still vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even in the foot if you were expecting women to go vote for reproductive rights because you gave them an out. So the messaging was wrong out the gate. We talked about that. Not running on the economy. Not running, but I still think though, even if she would have ran on all those things, they still would have voted for Joe Biden half dead weekend at Bernie's.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You know, they didn't even win Scranton. Joe would at least one Scranton I think Joe would have got like 65 million votes. Okay. So if what you're saying is true What was all because I felt how you how you feel now is how I felt in the beginning And then when I saw the excitement and the money Moving and all that I was I mean got a chance. Yeah, what was all of that thing? I knew Joe wasn't going to win. I didn't think Joe would win either. I didn't think he was going to win. But he should have held the L. When you got the doughnut saying we're not giving you no more money Joe.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Well you didn't have no choice. That's right. So let's be clear they did not have a choice. Because George Clooney and them said. Yeah they said they didn't have no choice. So two things be true at the same time. They had to put Harris in, no doubt about that. I'm not disagreeing with that, but I still don't think they would have voted for. They just wouldn't. They're just not going to give something that they didn't give first.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Did she do the best that she could? Yes. Did she do everything they told her to do? Yes. Did she have 100 days to do it? Yes. This is not about shitting on her. This is about setting up a woman that failed in 100 days to do the damn near impossible.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think Joe Biden should have took that L. He's the one that said, you know, he was going to run. He's the one that set up there the entire time. Let him take the L. So can she run again? Would you advise her to run again? No, I wouldn't. Do you think she should run again?
Starting point is 00:29:16 No, because again, we got to stop with, I don't know what this obsession we got with federal. Let them have it. Let's talk about, especially Republicans now saying give it to the state. If you really want to make real change in your community, I know it's not as sexy, I know it's not as exciting, but it really is at the state level. It really is at the local level. If you believe and you want to fund the public schools, you can do it at a local level.
Starting point is 00:29:35 If you say, you know what, I want charter schools. I want to be able to educate our own. You can do that at the local level. Why are we so infatuated with this White House? I don't get it. Why not be in Atlanta Council with 16 other people, in Orlando with six other people, to be able to say, I'm going to write a check to the Black Business Investment Fund, you know, to be able to say, hey, here's some
Starting point is 00:29:52 money to go start a business. You can pass reparations at the local level. So I don't understand this obsession that we have with this federal thing. And I'm going to be honest with you, Lauren, black women, a lot of times we get caught up and it's wanting to be validated so damn bad. So when the excitement was there, when everybody's like, with you, Lauren, black women, a lot of times we get caught up and it's wanting to be validated so damn bad. So when the excitement was there, when everybody's like, Oh man, we can do this, we can do this black girl, man, we can do this, we can do this, we can do this. This validation of needing to be affirmed, needing to say you are qualified enough. You are good enough.
Starting point is 00:30:16 A lot of that played into it. A lot of that played into it. But let's not forget 3000 black women did a petition and said, Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They ignored that and went with the money to Charlemagne's point. They didn't have a choice. I agree with you, especially about the state thing. You know, there's something else Trump said that man landed and I was, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:32 still trying to figure out how did he land this? Cause it's so hard to get people to focus on this. The abortion thing, right? He told them, I want it to be in the hands of the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about, you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd be like, no, Trump just wants it to be in the hands of the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about, you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd be like, no, Trump just wants it to be in the hands of the state. I've never seen a politician convince people on a national level, it's going to be local and that's fine. And they buy into it.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, Trump can get anybody to buy into anything, he say. I mean, he's a total... Democrats have never been equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it. You know, let's just say they've never been equipped to run against him. He's too petty. He goes too low. He don't give a damn what y'all talking about. He's an entertainer first. And so they've never been equipped to go against this man. Never. But to your point Charlamagne, for those that understand the state's rights and when you go back to Reagan, the reason why black people are against that is because what it does is it disenfranchises us even more. So if you're saying, okay, in Oklahoma, you can't get access to health care, but you can get access to health care in California, very
Starting point is 00:31:30 liberal, these are folks that can't just pick up, you know, and go to California to get what they need, don't have the money. So it affects poor people in a very bad way, the state's rights. But conservatives, they like states, give it to the states. Their mindset, if you don't like it, move somewhere else. But not of us have, not enough of us have the resources to just move, you know, somewhere else to just move where things, you know, may be favorable to you. So as black voters, we're always trying to carry the lease of these and everybody else and think about everybody else. But the reality is, Charlamagne, people are only looking out what's in front of their doorstep. Remember when Governor DeSantis reduced the gas. When they was talking about, you can't do nothing about the gas when gas was so high. He said, oh no, I can do something
Starting point is 00:32:07 about it. This is why I talk about state. So when people remember that even though there's more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what affected their pocket. And that Republican governor made a difference. Kemp in Georgia made a difference, was passing out Kemp cards. He did the same thing Trump did when he signed his name. He gave him Kemp cards. People remember that. So even if they don't like Republicans, even if they don't like Trump, when you looking at how that affects your money daily, it makes a difference.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And that's where they lost as far as really trying to understand, you know, the economic conversation, especially with black people. That's right. Thank you for having me, guys. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you for letting me go through my list.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That's all good. It's Tevin Figaro. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. If y'all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's Topic Time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us,
Starting point is 00:33:06 this was trending yesterday. It was a post that said, the new generation of women don't ever cook breakfast because they don't wake up until three. That's where this conversation is coming from. 800-585-1051 and we're asking, why do a lot of women don't like to cook? That's crazy, waking up at three is a crime.
Starting point is 00:33:23 That's right, you on drugs. You ain't brush up even this drink on drugs. You definitely are. If you sleep until three o'clock and have the new you, that's all waking up at 3 is a crime. That's right. You want drugs You ain't brush up even this drink on drugs You definitely have you sleep at 3 o'clock and have to know you know you want dope But when I was doing drugs, I don't care. I was still waking up at like 11 not 3 o'clock Mmm, you know cuz sometimes drugs do make you a little tired depends what kind of drugs though now you Know drugs. Okay, I'm talking about drugs like dope hard drugs. Yes. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I feel you I ain't I'll know about drugs like dope. Hard drugs? Yes. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I feel you. I don't know what that's like.
Starting point is 00:33:47 So we're asking 800-585-1051. What are your thoughts? What do you think about that? I think it's crazy. I do agree that a lot more women feel that way. I mean, they have taken the approach like, okay, I don't have to cook. I'm so caught up in my career and work and everything and I don't want a man to get in the wrong mindset about me. Like I'm not a homemaker.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But baby, you literally can cook. How would you cook if you how would you eat if you didn't have a man? You know, would you just go out every night? You know, because I started off with me cooking for myself. And then I had a child cook for him. I don't care every man that I've had I've cooked for it. It's it's something that I like to do cooking is very Therapeutic and then it's the way that I take care of myself. It's like a survival thing
Starting point is 00:34:29 I see my mother do it. I'm gonna do it. I don't say why it's like that Yeah, I don't know any women who don't cook Yeah, all the women that are in my life cook now are some of those women over 40 Yeah, you know, but I know them in their 30s too and they enjoy cooking I don't know who these women already speak of and then food is made with love envy I'm like is made with love so you can appreciate a home-cooked meal made by a woman You know I'm saying more than you can at an end at a restaurant in mm-hmm You know, I will say this, you know Shalem ain't always jokes that we were born in the 1900s When me and my wife first started, you know dating and we when we first got married
Starting point is 00:35:08 We can only order out two things you can only get pizza in Chinese food Those are the only two things that would deliver so we had to cook she cooked every night. That was the thing Poor New York. Yeah My wife always cooked too. I mean my wife's dad, you know, one of his side hustles He's a caterer. So she always knew how to cook. She was always, you know, in the kitchen. That's her thing. We've been together 26 years.
Starting point is 00:35:29 She's never not cooked. Yeah, I usually do the breakfast, my wife does the dinner. That's how it's always been. That's what Chris does. He cooks breakfast because I think that's probably the only thing he can cook. And he, but he takes that on all the time. He'll make breakfast, I'll make lunch, I'll make dinner.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's why I love to see like R.A. Fletcher, money bagger, yo's girlfriend. She cook make breakfast. I make lunch. I make dinner That's why I love to see like R.A. Fletcher money bag your yo's girlfriend. Yeah, she cook. Oh, whoa wife She cooks I love to see young girls cook like when they get it in in the kitchen I'm like, okay girl. Yes, because you can still be fly business woman You know and still cook meals and it looks good. You think it's a regional thing you think like, you know more women That's like down south towards the southern regions, that's what they do? I think so. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think so. Yeah. And I think so, I think a lot of the reason why is one, I think the food tastes better in the south, and I think up here, there's so many options. There's like, no lie, Bodega and fast food spots on every corner. There's so much food down here,
Starting point is 00:36:21 where you can just get all over New York, so you can never ever be hungry in New York Yeah, but it ain't great. Yeah It ain't great food. We got Jasmine on the line Jasmine. Good morning Yes, I feel like Back then when we stay home with their kids like now times have changed every working we have businesses We're also taking care of the household. Like we're just doing a lot more.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I feel like as long as we're making dinner, like I make dinner, I was like, as long as I make dinner, that's fine. I don't want to hear no complaints about breakfast. I get it. I get it. Thank you, Jasmine. Shout out to God I say that now. I don't want to hear no complaints about breakfast.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Angie on the line. Angie, good morning. Hey, good morning. What up, though? Hey, what up, though, Detroit? What's your thoughts? Yeah, yeah, Detroit to Houston all day. So my thoughts on this topic. So I'm a mom and I'm a wife and I also work.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I enjoy cooking. I just think that now in the current state and the current economic situation, moms is working 40 hours a week. So even if we do like to cook, and I can think to my own, I'm at work right now. I'm here at seven, I get off at six,
Starting point is 00:37:32 and then the expectation be to cook dinner every single day, that's a lot. That's a lot. And sometimes men don't really understand that my husband does, because he would switch it up. But to go to work all day long, and then come home and then cook and then go grocery shopping, it's exhausting.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So I just think how- I think you making a lot of sense. See, but I don't know, because I don't know about your mama. My mom used to cook every night. My mom worked nine to five, she'd be home, then already by six, 37 o'clock, every night. And it was like no choice. No choice.
Starting point is 00:38:01 My mom used to do it, and she used to do it with cheese. So my mother did too. My mother did too, because my dad works afternoons. And to this day, I call my mom and I say, I don't know how she did it and I'm very thankful. That was a different breed of person. But also, my mom didn't have to work. It wasn't required for her to have to bring in money. Nowadays, it's a lot of 50-50 men that want you to bring in half.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Nah, my mama worked. Hell yeah. My mama worked. My mama worked too. Your mama and in half. Nah, my mom works. Hell yeah. My mom works. My mom works. My mom works. Nah, my mom works. Not only that, if I go to my mom's house right now, I don't care what my mom's doing, she will stop and cook.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's exactly how my mom is too. If I say, mom, I'm hungry, she's gonna stop and cook me a meal. You know what we should ask our parents? I bet you there's a question you never asked. What's that? If you have a mom who worked 40 hours a week and came home and kept food on the table Where what areas did she have to sacrifice in because it had to be some yeah There had to be some areas she had to sacrifice in in in the relationship between her and your dad Right in order to be able to do that there had to be something
Starting point is 00:38:57 Well, you know my mama I don't know about Charles but my mama had no life like there was no outside life Like she didn't go out with her friends She always was home with us. You really don't know how to speak. My mom ain't had no life. Like what? No, I mean she didn't have no life outside of her family. And I'm sitting over here like, mine neither.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I know Robin is probably like, excuse me. No, but for real. No outside life. No outside life. She didn't. It was always about her family. And those are questions that I think that we should all ask our parents because a lot of us don't know our parents before they were our parents Mm-hmm, and you don't know the sacrifices they probably made to be your parent to be somebody's wife to be somebody's husband
Starting point is 00:39:35 We don't ever have those conversations with our parents. I think we should That's right give you a better understanding of what they went through and what we're currently going through now. That's right All right, this is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests joining us back in the building. Yes indeed. We got the brother John Hope Bryan. He's back. Welcome Bryan. It's a honor to be here. And also A-Rod Alex Rodriguez welcome. Great to be here. A lot of money, lot of intelligence between y'all two. How did this happen? This connection? Well whatever you
Starting point is 00:40:12 try to make smart sexy you know it attracts you know like attracts like you know on mindset you know this is all of us are up from nothing by the way all of this story it's the same thing you can go from the bottom to the top Legally ethically honestly pay your taxes do your stuff go from right from cash in a check to write in the check So Alex story in mine are very similar like we had very strong mothers who are great influences our lives We're both extremely nosy Quincy Jones. How'd you get so smart? I'm just nosy as hell I want to know everything about everything and when he got his first check in baseball, he went and asked Magic, like, okay, how do I turn this from a check to some wealth? And so he started talking to the folks on the
Starting point is 00:40:54 front row at the games for business people. And he would trade his influence for lunch. I'll go to lunch with you. I just need to ask you a bunch of questions. That's what Magic used to do. And it was just brilliant because he gained a business acumen from that. Got a base in the NBA while he's playing baseball. Use that to then buy some real estate and then buy some more. I think you worked the first piece of real estate yourself didn't you? Yeah, a duplex. Duplex for 250,000. So we did a financial literacy episode on money and wealth, which you know something
Starting point is 00:41:22 about. It's on the Black Effect Network. That's right. Make sure you subscribe to that. Yeah, it's actually the episode's out this week. you know something about us on the black effect network that's right make sure you subscribe to that it's actually episodes out this week mm-hmm we did this episode together on financial literacy because we both believe it's a civil rights issue of this generation you know better you do better and we're talking about black and brown wealth how do you how does black and brown create some green at scale it's a conversation that many folks don't have most athletes go broke. 70% of all NBA and NFL players bankrupt within five years of retirement and divorced.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So this brother is just defying all the odds. He's cool, he's a humble dude. He wanted to meet you guys. He's been here before, ain't Rob been here before? Yeah, but he wanted to get into it. He wanted to go to another level. And so it's a beautiful family reunion. Well, let's jump right into it.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So what gave you the mindset to say, I want to learn more about investing and making sure that I have wealth after retirement? Was it the fact that you've seen so many athletes go broke? Was it the fact that you said, I'm never going back to where I was? Or what was it that said, I want to be different from 70% of those other athletes?
Starting point is 00:42:22 I would say I saw my mother work at General Motors for about 12 years. She would have the early shift at three o'clock in the morning to two, come home, nap for two hours, and then go serve tables at night to midnight. And I saw this for years and years and years. And I think my life changed one day when we were at Publix, which is a supermarket
Starting point is 00:42:39 down in Miami. I was about 12 years old, and the bill's about $75, and I see her grab some of her tip money And she's got like $56 or whatever and I see that she's missing like 20 25 bucks And she goes into another pocket of her purse and grabs what I call funny money, and I said mom What is that funny money? It's like red I've never seen money like that only Monopoly and she kind of with shame in her face look down and she goes son The government is helping us out a little bit this month And it changed my life. I mean I can feel it today
Starting point is 00:43:08 And I know so many families out there have felt this and that's kind of where my ambitions grew Is that what we used to call food stamps? Yeah, yeah food stamps. Remember they were paper. But I never seen it because it was green right and I think she would hide it from me We were probably food stamps for years She just never you know disclosed that with me and then like John said I met with one of my heroes and mentors and great friend now magic Johnson about 30 years ago, and he was going out to dinner with cookie and It was near a label Dale Drive I think master over something and it was supposed to be a 30 minute meeting we met for three hours
Starting point is 00:43:40 He called cooking said I'm not coming home and years later said magic Why'd you give me like three hours and I left with nine notes of paper that I still have today. He said because you're one of the few athletes that came in all business on time. That's right. No phone and you were taking notes. That's right. So you were engaged so I engaged with you. So that's my message to the next generation it's just like the reason why I played baseball for so long is the fundamentals whether it's Jordan or Tiger or LeBron or Magic or Bird, whoever, is fundamental to sports that makes you great. The same thing is in business.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You got to know the rules of engagement. And our young folks, while they're getting better, there's a lot of room for growth to understand the way that money works and their relationship with money and financial literacy. So from day one, did you blow any money? Like when you first got your first big check, did you blow any of it? I was fortunate that I played for almost 25 years So I would say from age 20 to 30 made a bunch of mistakes And then what I realized like sports when we won the championship with the Yankees in 09
Starting point is 00:44:32 we had a squad and we were as Solid as anyone and in business the same thing You got to create an incredible team that are way smarter than you that have complimentary set of skills But at the end of the day, you're the quarterback of that team So then I put my lessons behind me and it's been pretty good ever since. What was the dumbest thing you bought when you first became and made all that money in Major League Baseball? Well I'm from Miami so. Boat? You bought a yacht? A Benz and a Rolex. If you're from Miami you need a Rolex. Rolex is not dumb. So by the
Starting point is 00:45:04 way me, him and Don Peoples who's been on the show a few weeks ago, the three black That's the gold standard. Rolex is not dumb. No, they don't. They don't. They don't. You can resell that. So by the way, me, him, and Don Peoples, who's been on the show a few weeks ago, the three black men I know, black and brown, same thing, we're all the same family, who have a couple hundred million dollars in a loan facility for real estate on, as you know, this non-recourse basis, which means there's no personal guarantees. That's credibility. And that's where we need to go.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Like, you make money during the day, you build wealth in your sleep and too many of us have hooked on that, I want to get that dollar, I want to get that cash, I want to get that book, I want to get that bag. It's useless. It's called literally cash flow and if your outflow exceeds your inflow then your overhead will be your downfall. And if you don't understand financial literacy, somebody's gonna separate you from your wallet and this is just more zeros attached to it. The first year every athlete spends everything they got. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's just, it's natural. You know, growing up in Queens, there was nobody around me making money, right? We were all the same. We didn't know anything about financial literacy, right? My son goes to University of Miami, calls me yesterday, him and his friends about to buy a restaurant, which is crazy to me,
Starting point is 00:46:00 because at 20 years old, I wasn't thinking about that at all, but it's the mindset and the people that he's around. So for people listening and they might not have somebody around him that is knowledgeable in business they might not have somebody around him that knows where to put money or what to invest in or how to do it. What do you tell those and people that say okay I don't have a magic to speak to you know I mean I don't have an a rod to say let me sit down which I don't have a John to say this is what I have and what I do so
Starting point is 00:46:24 what do you tell those individuals? Let me take that first, because I know this one includes John. The power of proximity to greatness or proximity to intelligence is so powerful. In baseball, I wanted to be around Cal Ripken, Keith Hernandez, Doc Good and Strawberry, because they had sets of skills that I needed and I wanted
Starting point is 00:46:40 and great athletes can copy and paste better than anyone. In baseball skills? In baseball. Now you go over now to business and it's the same exact drill. I want to be around John Hope because every time I'm around him I get better. He inspires me. He gives me more hope. He gives me, no pun intended, he gives me my self-esteem rises.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Our community, Black and Brown, the number one issue is self-esteem issue. And they don't want to engage. They don't want to engage in a business conversation because they don't want to be embarrassed. We're some of the most prideful people in the world, but we pay our rent on time, we're hardworking people, we have tremendous heart and grit, but we don't want to be embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:47:13 That's why Shark Tank works so well. You get an education while getting entertainment. And America gets an MBA from Shark Tank. That's why people say when I walk around, oh, there's the Shark Tank guy. I love Shark Tank. That's when I know I'm getting old. The kids watching Shark Tank is amazing amazing right? They learn so early so so
Starting point is 00:47:28 Your job as an American citizen as a youngster right man boy whatever you are is to be around Proximity of greatness so if you find a great mentor from age 20 to 30 forget about the money 20 to 30 go work for John go do an internship at a rock Corp go work for magic Paid nothing pay whatever you got get a roommate But 20 to 30 is your extended education and then once you get to the 30s you open up that that black book How we say your your relationships right because when you're 85 right you look back your net worth is gonna resemble your network Amen right so start I had a mentor say if you don't have a breakfast lunch and dinner every single day to talk about money You're falling behind because your competition is doing it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 All right, don't go anywhere. When we come back, we got more conversation with Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant. It's the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. We got Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Bryant here this morning with us now. Alex? Who got you into the franchise game? Which one? Well, the rumor now is that, you know, y'all got the cash ready to buy the Minnesota Timberwolves
Starting point is 00:48:29 full ownership. So this, by the way, there's some things that he can't talk about today. Yeah, they said it. It's a legal situation. He'll answer the question he can answer. By the way, I loved, by the way, there was like which franchise?
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Starting point is 00:52:46 How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child?
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Starting point is 00:53:37 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I heard that! I caught that! He's like, which one? But there's some things he won't be able to talk about today. wherever you get your podcasts. Which one? But there's some things he won't be able to talk about today. Just high level. I mean, just kind of my passion for sports. I think if you talk to most athletes and you do a secret poll, probably 90% or more will tell you I would love to own part of a team someday. Who doesn't want to convert from player to owner, right? That's the American way. We took a long run at the
Starting point is 00:54:03 Mets and we came in second to Steve Cohen. Thank God because he's doing a phenomenal job and we're having a great time with the Timbuls and the Lynx. Lynx almost won a championship a couple days ago, came up a little short, but very proud of our young women. Look, this is the ultimate dream to be in a room with Adam Silver and 30 other owners. It's pretty spectacular. And look at that and talk about imposter syndrome. You're seeing Mark Cuban, you're seeing Jim Dolan, you're seeing Tony Wessler, you're seeing guys like Mark Lazary, people that I've looked up and admired and studied my whole kind of adult life and now you're in the room with them as colleagues. It's really an incredible feat. Yeah, I've been dreaming about it probably for a long time and finally
Starting point is 00:54:39 made the move. I just got to ask a sport question since we're on sports. How about them damn Yankees? Oh man. How does it feel to see what it's taking so long to get back to and what do you think about the Yankees now? It seems like baseball is more exciting now. I'm watching the games more, the games are a lot faster, it's fast-pacing. So what is your thoughts on baseball now? Yeah I'm so excited. This is baseball has needed this moment for at least a decade. I'm so tired of people saying baseball's boring and old and look we went through a little bit
Starting point is 00:55:07 I'm so tired for they got born But give Commissioner Rob Manfred and Tony Clark the head of the union of the players and they came up with the clock Right and made it a lot better pace made the bigger bases now They look like Domino's Pizza right right base is a game that's driven by markets and superstars In tradition in tradition and history and this World Series here has it all. This is two franchises that have the two richest franchise in revenue and star power global Yankee may be the number one franchise in the world Dodgers may be top five and I'm
Starting point is 00:55:37 talking about all of sports football soccer you name it. The Cowboys number one baby. Yeah yeah number one. Yeah Cowboy fan. But the Yankees are in that top five right and when you look at the Yankees are in that top five, right? And when you look at the Yankees conglomerate, it's well worth over 10 billion. When you look at the Dodgers, well worth over 10 billion. I would say there's Otani and Judger, two biggest stars you can have.
Starting point is 00:55:54 You're going to have probably 15 million people watching Japan, another 15 or 20 watching here. The fan bases, it's interesting when you go to Dodger Stadium, there's three type of fan bases. You have the corporate financial institutions in Hollywood. You have the Mexicans that, you know, guidelines Fernando Valenzuela who died. He was a big pioneer in that movement. And then the other third is now Japanese.
Starting point is 00:56:13 They're printing money like it's no one's business. Because of Otani and obviously the success they've had with Mark Walters, Todd Bowley, they have an incredible ownership. They traded his ball for $4.5 million. That's right. But they've had one championship in 37 years. The Yankees have one championship in 24 years. So both franchises are gonna be starving. Tickets, I told Sean today, are going for $40,000 behind home plate. One ticket. So if you want two, that's 80 grand. 80 grand. A beer is probably 4,000. So it's gonna be the
Starting point is 00:56:42 most watched World Series since the Cubs. And you won, you won, right? The last one was 09, so we haven't been there in 15 years. So bring the glory days back to the Bronx. My question, I don't know much about the players, it's not about the players. My question is about, it's back to the family stuff you were talking about. My first thought was, so that moment with your mom changed your thoughts on money and building money and family. How do you keep now, you got all these franchises
Starting point is 00:57:07 and all this stuff, how do you keep, like you take care of a lot of people, but how do you set your boundaries where it's like no? Because you gotta keep the money to make the money. But you also grew up watching so many people not have. What's that battle like for you? How do you be like no, I can't do that, that makes no sense for my discipline?
Starting point is 00:57:23 So first of all, I'm almost 50 now. So I've had a lot of learning experience. I would say when I was in my 20s and 30s, that was a lot more challenging, right? But now when you're running businesses, you can give people opportunities where they can win. So as an example, my sister does all my personal real estate. So if I'm buying a house for a dollar,
Starting point is 00:57:42 she's making 3% on that or 6% on that. And my brother does- But they gotta be competent now. It's not a giveaway. No, no, they know my, I don't play that game. You gotta be by the book, there's no nepotism. I'm a very tough boss, I would say that. But here are the rules, rules of engagement.
Starting point is 00:57:58 If you play by them, you're gonna get first bid. And if you perform, I'm gonna come back to you over and over again. If you don't perform, I have no problem quickly pivoting and it's not personal it's business that's right now when my mom calls now for kids for parents listening right now when is a good time to start getting their kids involved in financial literacy when you start breathing so when you start spending money I mean you spending money 24 hours a day,
Starting point is 00:58:25 when you sleep you're spending money. The government did by the alarm clock, you did that. The government not paying for your light bill, right? So check this out. We have a kids account in Atlanta Public Schools, Operation Hope. By the way, everybody can go get financial coaching scholarship from the Breakfast Club. Call Operation Hope, we'll give you a $1,000 free scholarship just because you mentioned Breakfast Club to get coaching and counseling to get your credit score right. So we have with Mayor Andre Dickens in Atlanta, we have a kid's account in kindergarten, $50 in the kid's account. Now you may say, what's the big deal of that?
Starting point is 00:58:54 If you have a bank account at kindergarten, you're 50% more likely to go to college. If you have $50 in that account in kindergarten, you're 75% more likely to graduate from college because now you're connecting education with aspiration. The lights on the kids' head. Now you're talking about stocks and bonds and investment. I mean, don't create an investment account. Don't get A-Rod or me or you, DJ Envy, go in and talk about cars. Talk about, because we're this technology these days, right? But through that is investment. Now these kids, you hooked them, right? So it's about role modeling, it's about the language of money at the earliest age, because
Starting point is 00:59:33 this is the aspiration generation. We can literally build the next generation of America. We have to, by the way, because we're going to be a majority of minorities, literally. We don't do that, this country is done. But we can do that at kindergarten You know the biggest thing that my son he was nine the thing that I love is my son watches shark tank So he's nine so he doesn't know you for baseball. He knows you from And then like I was talking on the phone
Starting point is 00:59:58 We was talking business with somebody and he started asking me questions that I know that he got from someplace else I said this the other day. he was asking me, so dad, how much equity do you get in that deal? I'm like, where the f**k you getting that from? And then he was like, well, what about, he was like, well, well, I said, well, where did you hear about equity? He's telling me Shark Tank. And he was like, Ed, I want to know what royalty fees are and this and the other. And, and now, and I was like, I just want to play baseball, but you know, it was just, it was great that they have these types of shows on. And I know you gotta go.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I know you had a question. Yeah, I do had a question. Yeah, I do have a question. So y'all are talking about your families and your kids and these two always talk about how when they locked into their marriages, everything like floors for them. You talk about your baby girls a lot. Last time you were here, you were talking engagement with JLo. I know you're right now dating Jaclyn.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Is engagement marriage, is that a conversation for you right now? Like how does that, where does that fit in all this business and the portfolios? Well I'm very lucky to have an incredible person in my life. Jack's Canadian. She's right outside of Detroit which is very beneficial because my daughter goes to school in Michigan so I get two for the price of one. So we're already cutting a good deal. So she's 20 minutes from Detroit. She's a former nurse. She's transitioned her nursing to an incredible business called Jack Fit, where she helps out thousands of women online get a better life. I personally lost 30 pounds because of her.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I haven't really thought about that. This is really the best place I've been in my life. I'm very fortunate, grateful to be where I am. I'm helping out tons of people involved, like you said, with the Timbuktu's and the Lynx and doing my Fox deal with the Timbuktu's and the Lynx, and doing my Fox deal with the Yankees and the Dodgers. I'm open to anything, but right now, I'll let you know if there's some big announcement coming.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Maybe I'll come back. I would think it would be difficult for you to trust anybody in a real life. You know what I mean? Like, romantically. Just because you are a Herod, so the celebrity within the money, like, it's hard. It's hard for sure.
Starting point is 01:01:44 But, you know, you take your time, you try to surround yourself with people that are better than you and but it's no questions It's difficult. All right, we come back. We got more without Rodriguez and John. Hope Bryant It's the world's most dangerous more than show the breakfast club. Yes More than show the breakfast club. We're here with Alex Rodriguez and John. Hope Bryant now if you got a question I was gonna ask for somebody listening Maybe possibly thinking about buying their first property, their first investment property, or even their first house, or even refinancing their home.
Starting point is 01:02:11 The average person listening to this, please listen to me, as fast as you can, buy a home. The number one way you build wealth in America is home ownership. The average African American, we have 41, 42, 43% of us own a home compared to 75% of our white counterparts. That 30% delta, that difference is massive home ownership. And prices are not going down.
Starting point is 01:02:31 When I started buying those 700 homes from the Promise Homes Company, I ran it up to $150 million of assets under management of that particular portfolio. I bought for $88,000. I sold them at $350,000. Nobody moved the house. There was no genius to it. It's a magic of compounding. They're not growing any more land. Most of the places where we live are inner cities. What's an inner city in France? It's called Paris. What's an inner city in Britain? It's called the UK. We have centrally located real estate
Starting point is 01:02:58 and we're walking away from it to rent from somebody we don't know, to spend money we don't have, to impress people we don't know, to talk about stuff that don't matter. Like knock it off. Buy the worst house and the best block in the hood. D-A-H-O-O-D. The hood adjacent. Buy it near transportation, economy, economic activity, activity in a vibrant environment. Buy it, rehab it, live in it. Use equity a couple years later and buy, I know you know what I'm talking about here DJNV, buy the second home three years later. You do that three times over five to six years. This is my mother's story. Worked an hourly job. You're a millionaire and you can get the down payment through the Earned Income Tax Credit. You can go to Operation Hope. We
Starting point is 01:03:35 can help you get Qualified for EITC. If you make it $38,000 and have three children, the government owes you about $7,000 cash. So you just gave everybody listening to this who makes $38,000 a check and it's retroactive for three years if you've never filed. That's almost $20,000. There's your down payment right there, right? So we can get your credit score up, get your debt down, get your savings up, get into that house because it costs just as much to rent as it does to pay a mortgage payment.
Starting point is 01:03:59 You're right. Interest rates are 2% not coming back. That's fine. 4%, 5% is just fine. That's still very, very low. But prices are not coming back. That's fine, 4%, 5% is just fine. That's still very, very low. But prices are not coming down. People are gonna wait. No, no, no, don't wait, it's gonna get worse,
Starting point is 01:04:11 it's gonna get more expensive. Buy right now. Yeah, I wanna ask a question, because I think sometimes we have these conversations and we have these conversations from our perspectives, right, well, y'all in a different tax bracket. But I'm just saying, everybody here for the most part has money.
Starting point is 01:04:25 What about people who have no money? People from all communities who have zero dollars? How do the poor even get to the middle class? I got you there. I mean, he's the master, but I'm just gonna give you like really simple, right? Money is the easiest part to get. And I know this sounds crazy to the folks listening, right? Money, there's over a trillion dollars sitting in the sidelines looking for great deals. So if you don't have money, can you find deal flow? Can you hustle? If you find me an asset that costs $10 million and you bring it to me for $8, you basically own $2 million of that. So if you bring me a $10 million deal, right? And I can buy it for $8, you say, hey, give me a million dollars on that. I'll give you, because I'm still getting a million dollar discount. I'm paying $9 for a $10 million asset. So I'm getting a discount. So looking for opportunities, understanding where the train is going,
Starting point is 01:05:07 and you as an entrepreneur says, how do I get in the way, so when that train goes by, I can jump on and jump in that bandwagon, right? It's creating opportunities. If you find deals, you got money. Is that possible for everyday people to achieve? Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You know, you can buy, you can open a fractional stock account and put in $25 to buy some stock. Now you've spent that on Starbucks. You can do, you can do 10 ducks, you can do five bucks of fractional stock on any stock that you want. So there's no excuse. If you want to get in this game, Operation Hope will help you. Again, if you're listening to Breakfast Club, we'll give you a scholarship for coaching and counseling. We're going to get your credit score up. The average credit score for black people, by the way, is 620. Latinos are a little above that
Starting point is 01:05:47 notch more. But you're locked, that means half of us are locked out of the free enterprise system. You can't get a decent home loan at anything below 700. You can't get a decent auto loan below 650. You can't get a business loan at all unless you're 700 or better because it's risky credit. So we think the issue is racism or discrimination. It might be racism or discrimination it might be But it also might be that you understand there's a game There's a box a credit box and you're not in it But you have to have discipline you have to live below your means you have to understand this game
Starting point is 01:06:15 You've got to be financially literate and everybody can be a winner at this game I'd love to come back at some point We need to talk about a whole this whole thing or a relationship capital But you talked about a little bit like behind all of us is a backer That's right a partner that we're not talking about magic has it. I know who they are I love talking about Tony wrestler and Michael Reagetti, right? They backed me 80 million dollars and I paid him back plus 7% Right important because our community feel like capitalists you said talk about making smart sexy
Starting point is 01:06:43 They feel like that's a bad thing a lot of people not everybody but a lot of people in our community feel like capitalists you said talk about making smart sexy they feel like that's a bad thing a lot of people not Everybody but a lot of people in our community feel like capitalism is a horrible thing having people back you as a horrible thing as well Too yeah, so people say let's go for it step further. Oh, I hate rich people. No you don't You hate rich people to you become rich What you hate is a game system to your point right what you hate system that's rigged so that you don't think you can succeed. The money's not evil, it's the love of money that's evil. It's the greed. Ambassador Andrew Young says that men and women fail for three reasons, arrogance, pride,
Starting point is 01:07:16 and greed. What did Malcolm X say? We've been bamboozled, we've been tricked, we've been fooled, we've been hoodwinked. We've been hoodwinked on this topic. Black people, we have never had an economic infrastructure. In the history of us being here, that's our problem. Government's not gonna save you. Even if you wanna distribute money like a socialist,
Starting point is 01:07:34 you gotta collect it like a capitalist. What's the entertainment business? The business of entertainment, the sports business. It's the business of sports. What we don't understand is the business. I'm gonna give everybody here free game. There are about $100 trillion about to co-hit the market in the next 10 years.
Starting point is 01:07:52 All these baby boomers are retiring at the same time. They don't give their cash and their stock to their kids. They're gonna give their house to their family. Kids don't want the business. Those businesses have cash flow, client lists, real estate, a brand. Alex, I had a minute ago, bring me an asset for 10 million that I can get for 8 million and you have the upside between 8 and 10.
Starting point is 01:08:10 So if you come to me and say, I have a startup idea, give me a million dollars. I'm like, get out of here, right? You come to me and say, I've got a business that's got a million dollars of cash flow that's got a valuation of 10 million dollars. Will you finance that, the acquisition? In this example, it says $10 million of revenue. Will you finance a $9 million acquisition? The answer to that is absolutely yes. Non-recourse, meaning no personal guarantee. Wall Street does that all day. It's called private equity. So you got literally trillions of dollars with businesses
Starting point is 01:08:41 that are about to hit the market. And people listening to this can go become capitalists right now with an existing cash flow business, existing assets, existing employees, and not no risk, but low risk, because it's already successful. So we need to stop being self-employment projects because 96% of all black businesses don't have an employee. I don't know what the Latino numbers are.
Starting point is 01:09:01 But again, you build wealth and you're sleep is compounding. This is a huge Opportunity so all of us here walk into opportunities every single day But it's tiny taking your eyeballs and your brain and your ears to think about opportunities when you hear them So you hear opportunities all the time, you know poor guy and a rich guy go through a bad neighborhood The poor guy goes God what a terrible neighborhood. I would never want to live here the rich guy goes Let's try to see if we can buy all this up on a cheap, because in 10 years, you're going to be different.
Starting point is 01:09:29 You go to a barber shop, and you hear through a terrible divorce, and you hear this gossip all the time, and you guys are here, man, what a terrible situation. I have to sell their house, I have to sell their car. If you're an entrepreneur in the ear, you hear, oh, that might be an opportunity. Well, maybe I can, not to take advantage of anyone,
Starting point is 01:09:42 but if you have to sell your house quickly, maybe I can provide a quick buy and sell for if you have to sell your house quickly Maybe I can provide a quick buying sell for you off-market Right person and there goes that seven million dollar deal for ten, right? So it's about a rewiring of the brain and looking at opportunities and not looking at problems because problems is really opportunities Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us so much John Hope Bryant Happening December 9th to the 11th in Atlanta, Georgia, man. I'll be there. Alright, well it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:10:09 It's time for Donkey of the Day. I ain't trying to be Donkey of the Day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. They called Donkey of the Day and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Solomon, who got the donkey of the day today? Well, Jess Hilarion's donkey of the day goes to 21, no, goes to 20 year old, 20, 20, 20 year old Jaleen White.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Now he's 20, so that means he was born in 2004 and he is confirming my theory that after the year 2000, the universe just started making anybody. And I told y'all this because God sold the company that makes humans he sold it to some other higher power and they kept the name okay same model but the ingredients just not the same because these little youngins is different see Jalen has an eight month old son and the mother of the child had to run out real quick so she left the baby with his daddy. Well, Jalen decided to do what most men do when they watch their kids, and that's play
Starting point is 01:11:09 NBA 2K. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, this is where the story gets dark. And since I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, let's go to CBS News Chicago for the report, please. A father in Milwaukee is charged after he admitted to throwing his nine-month-old son because he was frustrated while playing a video game. Prosecutors say 20-year-old Jalen White was playing NBA 2K. He was, quote,
Starting point is 01:11:29 down two points in the fourth quarter of the game. Prosecutors say that's when he threw his eight-month-old son against the wall. The criminal complaint states White told detectives he heard his son's head hit the wall loudly. Hospital staff discovered several injuries on the child, not all of them from the wall loudly. Hospital staff discovered several injuries on the child, not all of them from the wall incident.
Starting point is 01:11:47 This appears not to be the first abusive conduct with this child based on the fact that there are multiple stages of healing of broken ribs. The baby has a traumatic brain injury and is not expected to survive. If the child does die, prosecutors will upgrade the charges against White to homicide. Somebody tell Donald Trump to add jail into the mass deportation list. Okay, don't be fooled because his last name is White. He's not.
Starting point is 01:12:16 This man was losing by two points in NBA 2K and got so upset that he threw his baby against the wall in anger. What happened to throwing your controller against the wall? What happened to simply resetting the game? What happened to instinctively loving your kids more than anything else on this planet? This man, Jalen, told police, and I quote,
Starting point is 01:12:37 "'He hit his head hard on the wall, bruh. "'I heard the wall. "'It was hard on his head. "'I heard the impact of the wall after I tossed him.'" this man's eight-month-old child is not expected to live because his daddy was losing by two points in the fourth quarter in NBA 2k the craziest part about this story is jail and said He said he didn't he didn't he didn't say he saw the baby hit the wall He said he heard the baby hit the wall. That means he just tossed the child without looking. Okay, he tossed the baby away. He just tossed the baby the
Starting point is 01:13:09 way Tyrese tossed those tissues the last time he was here in Breakfast Club Studios crying. I'm not doing this. Me neither. Okay. Out of all the things you could have grabbed and threw at the wall out of anger, you tossed your child and you're trying to tell me this the same original recipe for humans God been using? No! Humans are under new management and God and Ben okay God don't have his hands on none of those new model humans you only hear humans of a certain age say God not done with me yet because we are some of the last models that God created that he still got his hands on okay therefore we can still go the God repairO.D. Repair Service Center lifetime warranty.
Starting point is 01:13:48 But the reality is God is done with some of y'all and in the case of Jaleen White God said, hmm, get somebody else to do it. I don't have nothing to do with that. I don't have nothing to do with those humans born after 2000. That after 2000 human business, that's not me. I'm over here, I got my hands on the chimpanzees, the dolphins, the ravens. Have you noticed what I'm doing with the orcas and the bees? They are the new intelligent life and Ben, which is why the more you get to know humans born after the year 2000, you realize why Noah only let animals on the ark.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Now jailing is being held on child abuse and child neglect charges and you heard the news report if the poor eight month old child dies from his injuries Jalen's charges are expected to be updated to include murder and he is currently being held on a hundred thousand dollar bond. All those in favor of keeping him there forever say aye. Aye! I okay all right I mean I mean yes although the polls say no okay please let Remy Ma give Jalen White the biggest he-huh he-huh he-huh you stupid mother are you dumb that's sad man yeah it is sad it's crazy won't be no 2k where he going it was the first time like the baby has other injuries that he's hailing that's what I'm Like that's that's crazy. So why wasn't the baby taken out of the care before that's why he deserve everything He's about to get if you get fat in prison he get fat in prison Okay, and it ain't like I said ain't no 2k where he going. It's all too gay now
Starting point is 01:15:23 Okay, no controllers, just joysticks. Just joysticks. Just joysticks. My goodness. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Mm-hmm. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God, we are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren Rosa is filling in and we got some special Guests in the building. That's right. We got Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson. Welcome fellas Get tired but good Collectively known as the all the smoke podcast. That's right. Their new coffee table book is out right now all the smoke man You know, I always say like I know that there's a lot of athletes who do podcasts and stuff now. I don't know anybody before y'all.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I feel like y'all started that whole wave. How did this come about though? This, this, this for a podcast. Like I know y'all was partners. Inside you, two worlds are locked in battle. One thrives on fear and anger and doubt. The other courage, wisdom, and love. Every decision, every moment feeds one of them. Which wolf are you feeding?
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Starting point is 01:17:36 I always tell people that when you buy a handbag, it doesn't cover a childhood scar. You know, when you buy a jacket, it doesn't reaffirm what you love about the hair you were told not to love. So when I think about beauty, it's so emotional because it starts to go back into the archives of who we were, how we want to see ourselves and who we know ourselves to be and who we can be. So a little bit of past, present and future, all in one idea, soothing something from the past. And it doesn't have to be always an insecurity. It could be something that you love. All to help you start 2025 feeling empowered and ready. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls, starting on January 1st on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:18:13 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jason Alexander. And I'm Peter Tilden. And together on the Really No Lily podcast, our mission is to get the true answers to life's baffling questions like... Why they refuse to make the bathroom door go all the way to the floor. We got the answer.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Will space junk block your cell signal? The astronaut who almost drowned during a spacewalk gives us the answer. We talk with the scientist who figured out if your dog truly loves you and the one bringing back the wooly mammoth. Plus, does Tom Cruise really do his own stunts? His stunt man reveals the answer. And you never know who's gonna drop by. Mr. Brian Cranston is with us today.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Hello, my friend. Wayne Knight about Jurassic Park. Wayne Knight, welcome to Really No Really, sir. Bless you all. Hello, Newman. And you never know when Howie Mandel might just stop by to talk about judging. Really? That's the opening? often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg podcasts, to give you the context
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Starting point is 01:20:37 and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our eleventh season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one and others are just tuning in. Whatever the case and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think Jack retired maybe one or two years before me and we both got out and we were doing ESPN and Fox and getting positive feedback
Starting point is 01:21:22 and people said we needed to do something together and we were at my house in the bay one time smoking. I'm just like you want to do a podcast and he's like sure what is it? I was like I don't really know but I think we could drink and smoke because we were working ESPN and Fox you know you got to kind of walk that line so it was just a little bit more to our comfort zone and he said yeah so I started doing the homework and and we landed here we landed at Showtime. Now Kamala was your most recent? We did Joe Kim Noah after her. But yeah, Kamala was a big boy for us. And how was that? I know you were a little reluctant a little bit at first. Oh no, you know that. I called him. I talked to him about it. Me and Matt, we went at it for a couple days about it.
Starting point is 01:21:57 You didn't want to do it at first? No, because I really don't want to get in politics. I don't even want to be involved. And a lot of people that support me don't get involved. You know what I'm saying? I look at it the same way I look at it. But as a friend and as a brother to him, you know, anything that he asks me to do, you know, nine out of ten times, I'm lured to a fault. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Even if it's something I don't want to do. But I know it was beneficial for our company. I know it was beneficial. And I see that after I did the interview, I see now I have a lot of women in my life. I have eight aunts, six daughters, you know, so I would look to them after I did the interview. I'm glad I did it now because they all look at her and they look up to her and inspire to be great like her. So I'm glad I did it. You know, when he said he didn't want to, first of all, I told him, I said, Stack, have I ever led you wrong in a business decision or life? And he said no, but you know, when he said he didn't want to get involved with the politics, I told him, you said, Stack, have I ever led you wrong in a business decision or life? And he said no, but when he said he didn't want to get involved with the politics, I
Starting point is 01:22:48 told him, I don't think that was his choice because once he did that George Floyd thing, he put a smack dab in the middle of the biggest leading, one of the biggest protests this world has ever seen. So a lot of things come with that, a lot of good, a lot of bad, but a lot of things come with that. And I think that he implanted himself in the middle and I always will respect his opinion but I just thought this could be an opportunity for he has a very loyal following and it would could have been you know it was a it was an opportunity for him to you know get
Starting point is 01:23:14 some stuff on his chest or ask straight to the face and you know ask her straight to the face those questions so I'm glad he decided to come around it took him a minute like literally until she came in the room Jack wasn't so she came in the room and then she took us away from the group and and took us on a walk throughout the house and started showing us these this dope black art and sculptures and Jack was still tough like this and then he saw this one piece of art he liked and she talked about it and she had moved on and I kept following he went and touched the art and looked at it I was like oh she might be getting to him and then he showed she showed this dope ass chandelier and then once she showed the chandelier
Starting point is 01:23:52 and explained it and the jack started smiling like all right she got him so we were straight so it took him a minute to warm up. Does she know that you didn't want to do it? She had to know. Yeah she had a little bit I think she had a little somebody show him I handed her. Did y'all smoke before y'all got there? I did. Oh of, I guess she had a little, somebody show him how to handle her. Did y'all smoke before y'all got there? I did. Oh, of course, I'm just high now.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah, it was too presidential to be able to try to sneak it in and get one off. And we was representing a lot of people, so we didn't want to get in trouble, but yeah, definitely we pre-gamed. You know, that was one of them smoke showers, you know. In the shower, yeah, it got the steam, so it don't mess up the hotel.
Starting point is 01:24:23 It didn't smell like it. You know, y'all had the last conversation with Kobe Bryant, the last interview with Kobe Bryant, and I always wondered, was that the last time either one of y'all actually spoke to him, 45? That was the first and last time I spoke to him since we played against each other. Wow, I know Matt, y'all had a...
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah, we would see each other a little bit more because he was coaching Gigi and I was coaching the twins. So we had talked maybe one time after that and then he had sent some shoes literally the week, I think he passed on a Sunday, he sent shoes that previous Monday to the twins and their whole team. So they had just got fresh Kobe's.
Starting point is 01:24:55 So we had spoken and obviously like I said, he sent some shoes the week of the actual pass. So it was tough, man. What stands out from that conversation? I mean, y'all have it in all the smoke coffee table book,. What stands out from that conversation? I mean you have it, y'all have it in all the smoke coffee table book but what stands out from that conversation just from that date? We had a
Starting point is 01:25:09 conversation in his office before we actually got on camera and he was really adamant about this next 20 years then and and for the world to be prepared for what he was doing in business he was just finishing writing one of the children novels he was working on and he's just like fellas like I don't want people to remember me for my last
Starting point is 01:25:23 20 years I want them to remember me for my next 20 years you know he had the fund and had won Emmys and doing all kinds of stuff in the business space and obviously really saw when I got to see him coach Gigi and and just he didn't always never showed a ton of joy but you can just tell he loved it I mean he had these little girls running the triangle offense which takes grown men a long time to learn he had these girls practicing four or five days a week three hours a day like thing about Coe was he didn't take nothing light when it came to basketball. So these were little young girls, but they were running the Lakers offense to a tee. He was like a drill sergeant with them, but you could tell he loved it. All
Starting point is 01:25:57 those little girls loved him and looked up to him and just the passion behind that was beautiful to see. For me, I think seeing him as a teenager and seeing him grow into the icon he was, I just admired that. You know with so many players and basketball players you come across doing AAU and traveling, you know coming up as a teenager you see so many people that's supposed to be great that don't live up to it. You know what I'm saying, he lived up to it and exceeded it so you know just to be able to sit there to talk to him after our careers, you know what I mean, and go through the memories you know know I'm saying then you know before he passed I meant everything to me. What do you think about
Starting point is 01:26:27 the Lakers now we see Bronny play the last two games and people are on Bronny's ass. That's a beautiful I showed him the picture we got in the car we saw the film that's the dopest picture ever when he helping his dad up there that's the dope whoever hates and die. Yeah I mean I think if anyone deserves this opportunity to play with his son I think it's him you know what I mean and the fact that that whole thing was orchestrated for him to get to the Lakers is amazing and I was I was I had a Moment this past summer because my twins are 15 now So I take them a play against grown men and I remember one time me and the twins were on the same team playing And we was hooping. I'm just like man. This is so dope. I couldn't imagine this on the highest level
Starting point is 01:27:01 So to me, I mean the kid was a 55th pick. I mean the 55th pick doesn't even make it. So all these crazy expectations for him earlier, ridiculous, like allow him to develop. But you know, we don't live in a world where development is allowed, especially on the highest level. So I think from a father son aspect is incredible. But you know, the Lakers are one of those teams where you got to produce what have you done for me lately and they haven't necessarily done that. So it's going to be interesting, you know, scrutinize your I think we were talking about that earlier do you think that brawny will actually have the chance to develop or you feel like people gonna pigeon-hole him so much it might get to even more of a chance to develop because his father's
Starting point is 01:27:32 death like that's the motivation to have and he's seen what it takes to be great so all that is in him already and now he's in the in the in the facilities where you have everything here to be great I think I think yes everything you need nothing he's definitely gonna blossom over and I also think too I mean, I don't think you look at Bronnie in the same light as you look at LeBron I just think I think he's gonna be a very solid role player I mean, he's got a high high Q plays defense can make the right play can shoot the ball So I just think he needed a little bit more time to develop and now he's developing on the biggest stage.
Starting point is 01:28:06 But I think, you know, two, three, four years, he's gonna be a very solid rotational player. All right, we got more with Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes from the All the Smoke Podcast. When we come back, so don't move, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning, everybody, it's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Lauren LaRosa is filling in for Jess and we still kicking it with Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes from All the Smoke Podcast, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is filling in for Jess, and we're still kicking it with Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes from all the Smoke Podcasts, Charlamagne. What was the process of putting this book together? Like, how did y'all choose which conversations to put in there? Shout out Dylan. Shout out to him too, this publishing company.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Yeah, obviously, you and the company, and then Dylan, just understanding where we, the caliber of guests we had, and the different topics we spoke on. Again, there's a ton of people in this space now as far as sports, but I don't look at it as competition. I think everyone had their own journey, their own voice, and their own experiences. And I think we still think with all the conversations we had, our conversations are still different from everybody else's.
Starting point is 01:28:58 So just important, you know, family, mental health, everything that comes along in this journey and, you know, we've been able to transition from not just a sports show to just kind of a more of a culturally relevant show, you know, we're talking to the Kevin's and the Wills and the Jada's and the Jamie's and the VP. So I just think, you know, high level conversations with high level people and you know, being able to be celebrated with that. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, we're the first podcast with the coffee table book. So I think it's a tremendous opportunity. We're very thankful for it and hope that everyone checks it out. How did you guys know it was time to you talk a lot about transition, that it was time to
Starting point is 01:29:32 transition in and like lean into like, okay, the podcast, the merch, like just the business side of things like was that a switch? It probably was playing. But when did you know like, okay, it's time to jump the fence now? Man, the reason why I left the NBA the first year of a three-year deal I had happened to win a championship with Golden State and I wasn't getting a chance to see my kids. You know what I mean? So I you know it was kind of a perfect storm we won a championship and I was ready to move so I was just kind of excited and I
Starting point is 01:30:02 think sometimes how why athletes have a hard time transitioning because they don't get to leave on their own Accord most of the time it's injuries or a reputation or just teams don't want more But you know, I was someone that just you know, I was in the midst of a contract and I'm just like man You know, this is the blessing we won. I want I'm missing so much time with my sons I'm not my father first. So, you know, that was my transitioning reason and then once I transition I'm like damn much time with my sons. I'm my father first. So that was my transitioning reason. And then once I transitioned, I'm like, damn, what's next? I had invested well and had some things moving, but I knew I still needed to find something to do.
Starting point is 01:30:33 And media came knocking for both of us. We kind of ran with it. So I mean, Jack is the kind of guy that he trusts very few. So if you're in his trust circle, he's gonna listen to you. And when I pitched him my idea, he trusted me to run with it and make it happen And you know that's what I was able to do I want to ask some basketball questions before y'all get about it. Play Thompson What you think about him leaving the Warriors and you think it was time for him to go?
Starting point is 01:30:56 I think it's a breath of fresh air for him. I mean some guys need that doing their career You know what I mean? You've played as service by for so long It's a bad feeling the body body I ain't won last couple years so a lot of times they're gonna try to find somebody to blame it on and it fell on clay you know I'm saying which which is unfortunate because he's the reason why they have a big part why they have all those championships over there but this is how professional sports goes yeah this is how it goes and I think it's great for him because he's landing in the spot where he can do what he do best with two of
Starting point is 01:31:24 the best one-on-one players ever in Kyrie and Luka. He can spot up and shoot jumpers. So I think it's a great situation for him because I've been in a situation where I was somewhere and I needed to go to a different team to flourish and be a better player when I came to go to the States so that's kind of the same for him. Is Clay a Hooper or a Scorer? Clay is a Hooper. Oh yeah, he played on both ends.
Starting point is 01:31:44 WNBA, what are your thoughts this year? What a new excitement, new life. Sometimes it ain't no fun, it feels better than the NBA. What's your thoughts on WNBA? I think the women's game is pure, man. You know what I'm saying? They all play it the right way. It's refreshing to watch.
Starting point is 01:32:00 It's good to see them start to get their money and get the attention that they deserve. I'm a Hooper, so I'm all for anybody that's Hooping, that's putting in that work, you know, and that's grinded all these years to get to the top. I'm happy that they're getting their just due. I think the growth of the game is tremendous. You know, the fact that we're talking about it and seeing it on ESPN and all the highlights and you know, we're doing a piece that I'm excited about on Andre Reese and Caden Clark and just their dynamic that they brought to the game and the
Starting point is 01:32:26 vehicle of new fans they brought and you've heard kind of some of the good and the bad that have come with that you know Angel spoke out on just the negativity and the racism that have come from some fans and kind of using them but is that normal though because you know it seems like that's normal in a league I'm sure that you guys have been called a million names absolutely absolutely You're getting into a fight Utah, Boston, London You're playing Indiana man, I ain't put you talking
Starting point is 01:32:52 Utah, I just got into trouble in Indiana That's back when you still had the space between your teeth Yeah, exactly We had a cardboard cut out under the goal with me in a jail suit Oh shoot It was funny too, we was all laughing though. We signed it for him and all that. Yeah, but I think the growth of the game is tremendous. I think it's gonna continue to grow.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It's got new eyeballs and new sponsorship and new money and we just wanna continue to celebrate them. There was a video last year in November that went viral of you and Derrick Fisher coaching the twins together. That was a really, that video was like, I think the world was like, oh wow. Yeah. The world? Yeah. Me? I was there, I'm like, hold up. Jack wasn't there. together that was a really that video was like I think the world was like oh wow yeah the world yeah I remember 2015 everything before that right what was it like getting to that point where now we on the court what it's important to
Starting point is 01:33:37 do it but what was that like and then me and fish squashed that summer after it happened like that happened at the beginning of one season and then the next summer once I found out he was around and the twins cared about him like we squashed it because it wasn't about my ex and I No more is about trying to raise these young men So this has been in the boys life for almost half their life, you know what I mean? So we've always been and I was real enough that sit down and have a conversation with them like bro I'm still playing so you're gonna see my kids more than me I need you to teach them the ropes right while I'm not around
Starting point is 01:34:03 So to me, you know once I got over and once we talked about how I didn't agree with the move and it could have went a different way, it wasn't about saving that. It was about harvesting and we gotta raise two young black men. So I think he's done a great job. I tip my hat to him all the time.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I mean, he's their second dad. And I coach him in the summer during AAU and he coaches them during high school. So when people see us, they still kinda trip out. But our beef was for a season. It wasn't even that long. Love that for y'all. Yeah. It's easy to squash beef when you win the fight. See how you try to throw it back. Don't even ask.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Don't even ask. Go get the merch. Y'all know y'all got some shows, right? Live show today. Yep. Yeah. Philly with Million Dollar Worth a Game and a really special guest coming through with them, man. So we're excited to be on these calls.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yeah, Jim Jones, Davies, all them said they was pulling up, so I'm looking to see y'all in Philly. Is it going to be AI and Philly? How'd you know? We going to see. Is that real? That's happening? That's probably my favorite AI.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I will come to Philly for that. The AI all the small conversations is probably my favorite AI conversation. No, it? That's happening? Oh. That's probably my favorite. I will come to Billy for that. The AI, all the smoke conversation is probably my favorite AI conversation. Yeah, that conversation is in the all the smoke coffee table book which is out right now. All the stars, all the stories, no apologies, go get it. That's right, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning.
Starting point is 01:35:18 The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ ND, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. It's time for a positive note, what we got? It is really simple man. For everybody out there that's always on social media, trying to curate the perfect image, putting a filter on everything, I just want to tell y'all, y'all be so worried about image, you need to clean up your spirit.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Okay? Some of y'all need to clean up your spirit go do some damn work on yourself I'm not out here you know pushing for therapy just because y'all need to go out here and find a therapist y'all need to find a spiritual leader y'all need to just really clean up your spirit because your spirit is disgusting and nasty have a blessed day breakfast club bitches do you want a shortcut to the best version of you? Here it is.
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