The Breakfast Club - The breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Jerrod Carmichael Interview, Malcolm Jamal Warner Interview, And Dr. Wes Bellamy Interview)
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I don't think white people know how popular you guys are
I don't think white people know how popular you guys are
DJ Envy Jess Hilarious Charlamagne Tha God I don't think white people know how popular you guys are.
DJ Envy.
Jess Hilarious.
Charlamagne Tha God.
You guys really are like the hip-hop early morning, late night talk show.
Yeah, I know what y'all talking about.
This is your time to get it off your chest.
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Hello, who's this?
This is Jamel.
Jamel, what up? From New Bern, North Carolina.
What up, Jamel?
Get it off your chest.
Hey, I just wanted to call y'all and say y'all good morning.
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, Tess Hilarious.
What's happening?
Good morning, baby.
Appreciate you.
Hey, I also want to know, I got two questions.
DJ, I mean, Charlamagne Tha God.
Yes. I need all your books.
I got
Shook One. I'm reading that right
now. Okay. I got a new
book called Get Honest or Die
Lying. Why Small Talk Sucks.
Okay, stay left, stay left. And I also want to
shout out my wife and my kids.
Damn, I thought you was a stud.
You sounded like a stud.
What?
Ah, tell me.
He did.
This whole time I thought.
Hey, I listen to y'all every morning.
Okay.
This is my first time calling, and I got straight through.
That's crazy.
Appreciate you, King.
Hey, hey, hey, but, hey, but, Charlamagne, can you send me a book or something? I got straight through this. Crazy. Appreciate you, King. Hey, hey, hey, but, hey, but, Charlamagne,
can you send me a book of things?
I got you.
I got a pack in here for you.
I need that black privilege.
Hold on.
Don't hang up.
Okay.
All right, say less, say less.
All right, DJ Envy.
All right, Charlamagne.
I mean, all right, Jess.
All right, babe.
He ain't sound like a stud?
I'm confused.
Was it a stud at the end?
Very much.
No, it was the same person the Very much No that was the same person
That was the same person
The whole time
It did sound
She did sound
I mean he did sound
A little steady
Well he and she
Could have a wife
Regardless of she's a stud
Yeah I was gonna say
Yeah a wife and kids
But yeah
This shit ain't never denied
She ain't never denied
So she probably was a stud
Yeah so she probably is
It's like oh you got me
Then ask for some books
Studs don't know
They gotta sound
Hello?
Yeah
What's up Brandon
Get it off your chest
Tell your man to be quiet for a second yeah my fault my fault top of the morning how y'all doing
please king how you i'm everything good so listen right i wanted to get it off my chest that you
know uh my lady man she go through my phone when i'm sleeping and then you know whenever i try to
go through her phone when she sleeps she's sleeping with it on her pillow underneath her you know and um she'll she'll wake up but the only way i can go
through her phone stop why y'all don't trust each other how about that i don't want to hear nothing
else why y'all don't trust each other that's so corny y'all going through each other phone
listen listen it's not even that you know i don't i don't do that you just said you do it you just
said she go through your phone and you go through her phone.
Yeah, but I do that because she
do it, but I'm saying I don't just randomly
say I'm going to go through her phone because I will to.
Sir, have you cheated before I got caught cheating?
In the past. Oh, there you go.
Has she got caught cheating? No.
Is this your guilty conscience? What'd you say, Jeff?
He's trying to get even with her. Man,
knock it off. He trying to get even with me?
Yo, just knock it off. No, you knock it off. He trying to get even with me? Yo, just knock it off.
No, you knock it off.
You don't stop going through her phone.
I just told you, she go through my phone when I'm asleep.
Yeah, so that means you do it too?
What's the tip of the tat for?
He scared?
Because it's like, yo, listen, listen.
Why she can go through mine when I'm asleep, but I can't go through hers though?
You just scared she going to give that poom-poo to somebody else because you got a guilty conscience.
That's all I let in.
Well, you gave her a reason to because you got caught cheating.
Yo, listen, I appreciate you guys.
Hello, who's this?
Yo, it's your boy Jay from PA.
Jay from PA.
Good morning.
Jay from PA.
Hello?
Yo, what's up, Jay?
You can ask?
Yeah, I hear you.
What's going on? Get it off your chest. All right, man. Jay from PA. Hello? Yeah, what's up, Jay? You can ask? Yeah, I hear you. What's going on?
Get it off your chest.
All right, man.
I just want to let everybody know, especially the brothers out there, especially us black
men, man.
Go home, man.
Go home.
That overtime, it ain't worth it.
That money, it's not worth it, man.
You got to go home.
I'm serious, bro.
What if you needed to keep the lights on at home?
Listen, listen, listen.
So, man, you know, listen, family more important than anything, bro.
I agree.
I was listening for a year straight.
I was working double almost every day.
I almost lost my family behind this, bro.
And she simply told me, she was like, yo, you just simply weren't there.
Damn.
So that's more important than anything right now.
Like, I'm fighting right now
To get my family back
Kids, wife, all that bro
Like
And I realize like
Yo
That money ain't important
Like
You know what the kids miss
They miss me being there
That's right
You feel what I'm saying
They ain't worried about
That dollar bill
Them kids don't care
About how much money
I'm making
They gonna remember
That time I spent with them
If the wife get cut off
They ain't gonna think about
Oh dad ain't had the money
For that
They gonna think Yo Dad was playing with us with the flashlights.
Well, you don't want the lights to go off.
Go home, man.
But you're right.
You got to make time for your family.
Absolutely.
Positively.
Family is the most important thing.
That's crazy, man.
Yeah.
Like, I'm fighting for it right now.
You know what I'm saying?
And I can't blame her.
Like, it's my fault.
I wasn't there.
But, you know, you can't.
And I don't want to. You know, you're putting a lot on yourself.
But, you know, as a father, you know, the first thing that we think is we got to protect and provide.
And provide means a lot.
And especially in this crazy world where people have been losing their jobs.
Things have been messed up.
So you just want to make sure that you can pay for school.
You can pay for activities.
You can pay for your house, your car, and all those things.
So don't beat yourself up too much.
But definitely make time.
You're talking about activities.
This brother right here, he just want to keep some food on the table and a roof over his head.
And sadly, sometimes that's all it is.
That seems like the bare minimum, but it's really not.
It's actually a whole lot, especially what you're saying.
You're saying that you want to spend more time with your family, man.
So I think we got to shift our mindset.
A lot of times we think just being able to provide food and keep a roof over their head is the bare minimum.
It's not. That is a lot. That's right. A lot of times we think just being able to provide food and keep a roof over their head is the bare minimum. It's not.
That is a lot.
That's right.
A whole lot.
Not.
That's right.
Time is more important than anything.
That's right.
I don't switch up jobs.
I took a lower paying job.
I'm working third shift
so I can be home with them all day.
Like, I don't care about
no money no more.
I respect that.
It's only them.
I respect it.
It's only them.
I respect it, my brother.
Salute to you, man.
And salute to being a stand-up man
for your family, brother.
Absolutely. Have a good one, brother. Hey, hey, Strongman, can I get a book, bro? Yes Salute to you, man. And salute to being a stand-up man for your family, brother. Absolutely.
Have a good one, brother.
Hey, hey, Charlamagne, can I get a book, bro?
Yes.
Send my guy a book because he don't got no money.
He don't have no extra money to buy another one.
Send him a book right now.
Jesus.
Eddie, put him on hold and get my guy's address and send him a copy of Get Honest or Die Lying right now.
That's the least I can do for you, brother.
I appreciate it, bro.
Yes, sir.
Have a good one, man.
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Yo, good morning DJ Envy, Charlamagne, and Jess Good morning, how y'all doing? You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Yo, good morning, DJ Envy, Charlamagne, and Jess.
Good morning.
How y'all doing?
This is Coach Davis.
Hey, Coach Davis.
Get it off your chest.
What's up?
What's up?
Listen, with school being winding down, man, you know, I ran across something on my timeline on Facebook talking about the possibility of New York City getting rid of the Regents
test for students to graduate high school. timeline on Facebook talking about the possibility of New York City getting rid of the Regents test
for students to graduate high school. And I think that's a horrible idea. You know, I understand
that to gain college admissions, you know, they slowed down on the SAT, which is understandable
because there was some cultural bias to it. You know, understanding the idea and analogy of sofa to foyer or couch is the hallway.
If you were in a project, you had no idea what a damn foyer is.
So I get it.
But you have to have some competency to get out of high school, man.
And to take the Regents test out, I think is crazy.
Well, the Regents test is New York is one of seven states that has the Regents exams.
But they were saying the reason that they were getting rid of the Regents exam is, one, it's not in every state.
And two, they said a lot of kids just don't take tests well.
And if a kid doesn't take tests well or gets anxiety or gets nervous, they can possibly fail.
And if they fail that Regents exam, even if they do well, they might not be able to get their high school diploma.
That's how I ended up in the slow class. Because I'm not good at taking tests.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Yes, sir.
Check this out.
Under President Bush Jr., there was a policy called NCLB, No Child Left Behind.
Correct.
That was the worst policy in educational history.
Because like you said, they got this test anxiety.
Well, listen, they're not gonna leave them
behind anyway so somebody has to have to be a standard yeah but if kids there are a lot of
kids that don't take exams well smart kids get anxiety just don't understand necessarily the
test taking procedure i mean i was a horrible at taking tests too but that is not a surprise
shut up but um you said that like we were going to be stars.
It was.
It was.
I still got my degree, sir.
I got my degree and I was, uh...
I got my degree.
I get it, Envy.
I get it.
I get it.
You know, not being able to,
you know, having test anxiety,
that is real.
But you're going to get tested every day, B.
You understand what I'm saying?
Not a math, though.
You got to be able to live up to it.
Thank you, brother
We do use math every day
Math kicked your ass yesterday
When you was trying to do the Tupac equation
When you said Tupac been dead for 15 years
Okay
But that wasn't math
That was his memory
That was like
That wasn't math
You was trying to do
But it was like yesterday
You was trying to do 2024 minus 1996
It was a lie
It's always a lie
And we said that wasn't math
Now that was just memory.
I was trying to
remember when he
passed away.
That's why I threw
out that number.
That's like 15
years ago.
But the no child
left behind,
that's crazy.
I don't think that
should be a
program either
because they just
pushing these kids
along.
And it happens
in Baltimore all
the time.
Kids will be on
third grade reading
levels and they
pushing them all
the way up to middle school. know just we know we absolutely know get it off your chest 800-585-1051
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morning everybody it's dj nv jess hilarious charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
Yes, indeed.
We have Gerard Carmichael.
Welcome.
I be doing your voice in the shower.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy.
Gerard thinks about you when he's naked.
Yeah, you know what?
Let's lean into all the gay shit.
Sometimes when I'm naked, I think about DJing.
DJing.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Happy to see you, Gerard.
Happy to see you, bro.
I'm always happy when people come right after Donkia today.
Oh, my God.
Listen, bro, let me tell you something.
I was responding to you like Monique.
I was in my house just pacing around, just being like,
Leonard, Leonard, what would your mother say
about giving me no let's talk about that so there's a couple things i want to make clear
about that so um charlamagne gave you donkey today gave me donkey for what charlamagne you
reported on uh uh you you played a clip of my stand-up but it started at the punch line and it
it like completely erased the setup of it.
And I really don't like that.
It made it seem like I was talking like I'm into some type of race, sexual slavery role play with my boyfriend, which is untrue.
It's so false.
And I expect that type of thing from TMZ because they have no humanity.
They don't care about the people that get hurt when they report these sort of things.
But you're a friend.
So I really didn't like that.
I know you repeated it in the Neil interview.
I didn't like that. That was very, very
unfair. It was a joke.
I only saw that clip, though.
But I need you to watch the show.
Anybody who watches the show, it's not what I said.
It's so false. It's so untrue.
And I don't like that because it's like,
we'll get into that later.
It's a joke about reading
it has nothing to do with my boyfriend it has nothing uh like the sex that we have it has
nothing to do with sex it's something like people have been reporting on and i really really don't
like it it's about my boyfriend reading so much he makes me feel insecure about my level of reading
and look i get it it like it's something that people have been running with because one because
i have a white boyfriend so like people like try and create some type of crazy story out of that like and it's
a small group of people really like i read all the tweets and it's like some gay black men and
some ku klux klan members who don't like that i have a white boyfriend they agree on that so
congratulations like the clan and dr umar and some people find some common ground on that
but he's a human being he deserves respect i deserve respect i don't appreciate things being
misreported or like said about him in that way it's completely false so i i don't like that i
just want to make that clear that's that's not something i i know you were just reading the news
but like you're a friend and i want want you to actually have nuance with these stories.
People can get hurt.
They're actually real lives at stake with the things that you say.
And look, come after me.
That's fine.
But don't come after my boyfriend who is.
I don't think we came at your boyfriend, though.
We knew it was a boyfriend.
Well, I'm saying when that's in the headline and that's reported and then misreported, like, oh, he's into race slave play with his white boyfriend.
I don't like that headline
because it's false is not true at all now on to dave chappelle no i'll stick to the joke though
in context the joke's still not a good joke that's on you i've been a professional comedian
for a while i got i got some because you're still saying you're a slave no he's a slave
you know slave master is teaching the slave to read you know listen i'm talking about my own
personal insecurity i'm an educated person.
I'm usually the smartest
person in the room.
He reads so much,
it makes me feel like,
oh,
do I even know how to read?
That joke works
if I had a black boyfriend.
My boyfriend were black.
That joke actually works better
if I had a black boyfriend.
and you're the slave
and the white person
is the slave.
Listen,
if you are...
And you're from North Carolina
where you know
the first anti-literacy laws
were created in
North and South Carolina.
Sure, sure, sure.
But that's not my role as a comedian
to start getting into like literacy
laws and stuff like that. You've completely lost that.
I evoke provocative imagery
sometimes in my jokes. Some people are
very sensitive to that. That's your right. You don't
have to laugh at that. You could like hear the
word slavery and completely shut off.
That's completely fine. But
don't misconstrue what I said and don't like
make it into something that it's not because that's where I but don't misconstrue what i said and don't like make it into something that
it's not because that's where i start to get offended i don't think we made it no no that
that the statement like oh you you said it like multiple times on the show like oh he's into
slave role play with his white boyfriend that's untrue i don't know if i said it like that i think
you said it charlemagne that is not the joke the joke's about me reading the the joke's about my insecurity about like not being uh as well read when i'd be in bed
next to him and he's on his third when i'm in bed next to him and he's like on his third novel of
the month i'll be watching breakfast club interviews and i feel like oh i do i should
read more that's what the joke is the joke it has nothing to do with sex, has nothing to do with the type of sex that we have,
and that's just absolutely false.
But still not a good joke when you're black.
Hey, listen, that's on you.
That's on you.
You do stand up and you figure it out.
For me, the crowds laugh, whatever.
I'll say this about...
If the crowd is majority white,
are they laughing with you or at you?
You know, it's funny.
I'm actually shocked.
There's actually a pretty decent amount of black people coming out to see me.
I really appreciate y'all for coming out.
I want y'all to keep coming out, too.
I like seeing it.
Really, especially black women are in the crowd.
They've been talking to me.
They seem invested in my life, and it makes me feel really, really special.
So I really like that, and I appreciate that.
Now, I want to move on to the Dave Chappelle portion of it because I've heard you comment on that too i deeply regret ever saying anything about dave chappelle to the
press i want to say that i'm sorry for that because one i'm a huge dave chappelle dave
chappelle fan i love dave like i i think he's brilliant i think he's a bright light in a dying
industry i think he's more important now than ever before because comedians are now just posting clips
of them doing crowd work online and calling it art.
And it's not art.
Dave Chappelle is an artist.
He's one of the few artists that we have.
And I care deeply about the work that he makes.
With that said, the criticism that I had
had nothing to do with the morality of the joke,
had nothing to do with the ethics of the joke.
That's something that has also been misreported.
The criticism I had was that
of a fan someone who respects him so much that i want him to focus his genius on a wide range of
topics i think that like it started but it started being really really focused on one thing i disagree
well i'll say this look that's like i'm saying that about the slave job i'll say i'll say this i'm uh uh also a
big fan of jay-z if jay-z made three albums about trans people i'd be like hey what's going on with
jay but jay-z made three albums more than three albums about selling drugs you don't label you
just don't put him in that uh you don't pigeonhole him with that no they jay-z i mean listen i i
would love to get to a jay-z argument jay-z was very personal very emotional he always evolved
444 was incredible
because it showed growth and evolution and something you've never seen before in rap
and that's a thing with comedy too comedy doesn't grow comedy doesn't evolve it's it's kind of
stunted like rap and like we just start getting like real braggadocious like antagonistic with
the crowd and it can evolve like and we need smart people like dave like chris rock
like myself to actually evolve the art form because it is dying it's so so important for
people to go up and do deep personal stories or have a deep perspective about things going on in
the world because it's not happening you see it online yeah i know all i'm saying is i and because i've talked about dave a
lot i don't want to talk about dave anymore i i honestly i called him an eagle maniac i'm an eagle
maniac i'm here to talk about me i have a show that i want to talk about i've talked about it
on the phone yeah yeah i know david you know what and i'll tell you honestly from now on any thoughts
i have for dave will be directed in a phone call to Dave. I'll never do it again.
Alright, we got more with comedian Gerard Carmichael
when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning everybody. It's DJ
Envy, Jess Hilarious.
Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Gerard Carmichael still here. Charlamagne.
What would you say to people who would say
your mom is homophobic?
But when I look at it, I say, no, she's
very religious. So I think she's looking at it through
the lens of religion. Yeah, yeah.
And I think that at some point
you have to think about
how you got to the place
that you are. I had a really good
conversation with my mom about
even her finding religion and needing
religion, about the
hurt the the disappointment in her life from her dad and from other people in her
life that led her to needing God as much as she does and depending on God as much
she does and we were having a really really good conversation then my dad
woke up and interrupted yeah you know like it you have to explore your life you got to explore the reasons why
because you can hurt people like i know like people call it faith whatever but they're human
beings and like your opinion my mother's opinion of me matters so much what made you want to do it
now well because after i came out i realized that there are other things I needed to come out about.
I think everybody's in a closet about something. And I was in a closet. It was more than just being
gay. It was about the feelings that I have. I was in a closet about sex addiction or how I am as a
friend or all these things like just like I was a closeted person. I was holding everything inside.
And the show was an outlet for me i'm an
artist and i use art as a means of expression and as a means to heal and so i the show just felt
like a natural i was doing all these shows i was doing stand-up and stand-up started being kind of
a form of therapy it was like a free associative therapy that i would just go up and i would talk
about a problem that i have a deep personal problem that i have the response from the audience started being better that's
what i mean like people come to the shows they like like i the heckles that i get as a comedian
are so thoughtful like no comedian gets like the thought like people turn into therapists in the
audience yeah i'm not i watched that yesterday i was like those heckles aren't real that's part
of the audience is no no like people are Like, people are smart. I believe that.
I believe that.
Like, Twitter isn't just the, that's not what the world is.
I haven't been on there in eight years.
I hate it.
Yeah, listen, sometimes I search your name to make me feel better about myself.
No, that's fine.
What are they saying about Charlamagne up there?
Like, who?
I hate it.
I don't go over there at all.
No, but the heckles that I get are thoughtful responses.
Because you open yourself up
and people open themselves up.
Like, they respond in kind.
And so I'm glad
you're a good friend
to your friends
who are expressing
themselves to you.
How did you deal
with the sex addiction?
I'm still...
He's dealing with it still.
He's trying to figure it out.
All right, I'm getting
my candle.
But no, on the show, it shows you.
You just be on Grindr before your boyfriend.
You was on Grindr just getting it in.
Because that was old.
That had to be before your boyfriend.
Yeah, before my boyfriend.
And, you know, like, yeah, sex is something else, man.
You got to keep watching the show.
I had a good explanation, though.
You said because you waited so long to come out.
Yeah.
So now you feel like a 17-year-old kid. Yeah, yeah. show i had a good explanation though you said because you waited so long to come out yeah so
now you feel like a 17 year old yeah yeah having making up making up for lost time like just like
yeah they're they're like my emotional maturity level was a bit delayed that's it's a little
embarrassing to admit but true but even that i i do think there are certain aspects of my
personality that i inherit from my father.
I've been reading about that a lot. Just like being, you know, you you learn how to be a man from your dad.
And I learned he got mad. He don't get mad because he don't watch this.
He's like, oh, it's throwing me under the bus. But it's just true. Like, it's something you learn in therapy.
Like, oh, this is how you model yourself as a man.
And so we look to sex as a form of validation for my manly hood to make me feel like a man.
Yeah.
What is this show doing for you that therapy can't been using it as a form of therapy?
Because therapy is exploring yourself and exploring your past.
But it's not necessarily confrontation.
I still needed a tool to be confident enough to have a conversation with
my dad that I'd be terrified having otherwise. Like, you know, if I'm home in North Carolina,
I'm just like, you know, smiling, being a good son, being the son that they want me to be.
And I'm not saying the real things, asking the real questions. When the camera's on,
I become like a journalist for my own life. Like, no, no, no. What's that you said? Ninety eight.
You know, i get real real
like but but but but without the cameras i'm afraid you do show how much of a friend you are
too yeah no when you did pool was foul i know i know can i tell you you can't be a best man in a
wedding and show up an hour late yeah to the wedding it's not your wedding and then compare
it to jury duty why you know look i i when it when is it hard because i'm a performer and so i look at weddings as a show
like all right what is this show that we're going to like but but i i love poo and you know i actually
gotta hit him we've been talking a lot i hope that he liked the episode like he's a very sweet
thoughtful friend and inspired me so much and so so I know I was a bad friend.
Again, it's hard.
Like this show, I'm like the villain of my own show.
I'm Eric Kane of my own show.
Like I'm like people are like because I'm exposed.
I'm exposing myself in a real way, like the like some of the worst parts of myself.
I'm putting out there unedited, just like letting it let in the world see and judge and criticize.
But I feel bad for that.
I felt bad in episode. It's something i'm deeply apologetic for i'm learning i'm still growing i'm
learning to not be as selfish sure that's a means of self-protection like i'm selfish because i'm
scared and i'm learning not be as afraid i want to ask could you just mention something you said
that you had all of this great stuff going on before you came out yeah so do you feel like
coming out as gay is taking away uh the focus on on everything you've done
in your career no not at all carl michael show still exists streaming on hulu when i google you
what's gonna come up to the same way you said if you google dave it's all transgender stuff
if i do things i talk about watch the show i hope people watch the show like if you if you see the
show you'll see the truth you know i'm confident in that like you know i think this like up top i was just upset because something untrue was said
i'll say enough true things to talk about like so i don't need any lies i don't need any of that
but yeah i i'm i'm making art about my life and and i'm really proud of it i hope people watch
the show i think the show's funny he is yeah charlamagne what kind of funny funny y'all like man y'all so straight y'all are so straight so straight is this haha funny is this paul's funny
like jesus christ you're so straight congratulations oh my god everybody clap for the straight man
oh my god jesus carl michael ladies and gentlemen brought you a candle Clap for the straight, man. Oh, my God. Jesus.
Jerome Carmichael, ladies and gentlemen.
Brought you a candle.
Yes, he did.
I love you all.
Thank you all very much for having me.
Thank you very much.
And you can check out the reality show Fridays on HBO Max.
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Jess is out.
Now, we're asking this.
I've seen this on Hollywood Unlocked.
800-585-1051.
What are you starting to dislike more as you get older?
That is the question.
Again, 800-585-1051.
What are you starting to dislike more as you get older?
Well, salute to Hollywood Unlocked, my guy Jason Lee.
Let me read some of the comments before you get into yours.
Okay.
Somebody said plastic surgery lips.
Somebody said loud, unnecessary noises.
That seems like the biggest ones.
Loud.
Loud people.
Noise.
Somebody said the general public.
Somebody said people.
Somebody said humans.
Somebody said being out too late now being out too
late is one now i've been off it gets to a certain time and i just start getting tired yeah i don't
even know that being out too late i've been off that like i like things that start early and in
early like if i can be there at 7 30 you know like like like my guy steven colbert they had a birthday
party for him this weekend it started at 7 30 10 o'clock 10 30 i was out you know i'm saying we home by 11 11 15
we watched the movie saturday night that was a great saturday night that's what i'm talking about
that's my type of night my thing is man alcohol and humans right like i i i used to have a very
high tolerance for alcohol we used to get so drunk but over the years you know that has just gone
away to the point like well i'm out when i'm now, I can do a glass of wine and be good.
If I do two regular drinks of tequila, like, I'm just talking about neat tequila with two ice cubes and a slice of orange juice, two drinks, the recovery time is too much.
Yeah.
I can't just get up the next day and function.
Like, it takes me 24 to 36 hours to recover from that.
Yeah.
For me, it's, I say, social media.
I've been all day.
Yeah.
As I get older now, I don't even tap into it.
Two, I say going out.
I used to be the go-out king.
I'm out every night.
Now, what?
If I'm home, I want to stay home.
If somebody calls me to have to leave my house, it's a bunch of questions.
Oh, absolutely.
It's a bunch of questions.
And when I say humans, man, what I mean by humans, when I say I'm tired of humans, I am tired of proving yourself as a friend.
So, for example, you can have friends that you've been friends with for years, but you know your friends, right?
And you know that, you know know they get upset over small things
in life it come a certain point after why we all too old for that so if you don't know who i am by
now and you constantly get upset over little small things or because you feel slighted or because you
didn't get what you want from me that's the other thing that people don't realize it's not really
your friend is if the first time they don't get what they want
from you you know they get upset i don't have time for those kind of relationships at all
relationships that you got to walk on eggshells with none whatsoever somebody said bills in the
comments but we ain't never like those but guess what that's part of adulting you ain't got no
choice you ain't got no choice for that um somebody somebody said nicks as they get older
they're tired of nicks, that's the same thing
as humans.
It's not the same thing.
It's the same thing.
And one other person
said traffic.
Nothing you can do
about none of that.
But traffic now,
when you start getting
a little older,
you start planning
to avoid traffic.
You'd be like,
all right,
if I leave the city
at this time,
I ain't got traffic.
If I come into the city
at this time,
I ain't got traffic.
So it's the same thing.
But let's go to the phone lines,
800-585-1051
we got tanya on the line good morning good morning how you feeling tanya i'm good how are you good
now what are you starting to dislike more as you get older people that don't take the shower okay
you come to work mad you come you go to school mad just take take a shower. When did you have it like that, though? The guy that just proposed talking about he took a shower at night and he happy.
He's not happy.
Yeah, you got to take a shower in the morning, man.
Watch that night off.
Yeah, he's a grown man talking about he feel good.
You can't feel good.
No, watch that night off, man.
The same way you got to watch that day off, you got to watch that night off when you wake up in the morning.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, this is Champ from the Dushan State Podcast.
Hey, what's up, brother?
Peace, Champ.
What do you start to dislike more as you get older?
Man, I hate going out, bro.
Like, just being around people and stuff like that.
We went to the Black Effect Podcast Festival.
It started early.
It ended at a good time.
It wasn't a lot of people, bro.
We was out of there on the good time bro i
just i don't like going out and being out late well it was it was a couple of thousand people
sir so what do you mean it wasn't a lot of people no it wasn't wall to wall it was comfortable
and then we got out of there at a good time bro got out at a good time to get something to eat
and get to bed let me tell you something. They told me while we were sitting backstage,
they was like,
you know,
the run time
is till 8 o'clock.
I'm like,
ain't no way.
Ain't no way.
Ain't no way
the run time
gonna be till no 8 o'clock.
That's why we got about
there like 6.30, 7.
But it's funny
that you say that.
That's why when I do
my car shows
it's 12 to 5.
5 o'clock.
Early, man.
5 o'clock,
we start unloading them cars.
People got things to do, man. Nobody want to be out that Early, man. 5 o'clock, we start unloading them cars. People got things to do, man.
Nobody want to be out that late, man.
You're absolutely right.
800-585-1051.
We're asking, what are you starting to dislike more as you get older?
I've seen this topic on Hollywood Unlocked.
Salute to them.
And that's what we're asking.
800-585-1051.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envyj nv jess hilarious charlamagne
the guy we are the breakfast club we got some special guests in the building from the not all
hood podcast we have malcolm jamal warner way you see baraka and candace kelly welcome
thank you hey good to see you how the brothers and sister feeling good life is good yeah good
morning absolutely yeah last time i was here y'all just moved into this you're the first interview Good to see you. How are the brothers and sisters feeling? We good. Life is good. Yeah, good morning.
Absolutely.
Yeah, last time I was here, y'all just moved into this.
You were the first interviewer? Yeah.
You were the first interviewer in our new studio?
That's right.
Wow.
Man, I love the name.
Not All Hood.
Nah.
Yeah, man.
Who came up with that?
That was what you see.
Yeah.
I don't even remember for real, for real.
I was just like, nah.
Malcolm and I have been talking about just the concept of the podcast and how the diversity and who we are and also who we're not.
Right?
So I was like, nah.
Nah.
Yeah, it feels like that when somebody say, all black people from the hood.
Nah.
Nah.
Exactly.
Is the term hood negative, though?
When people say hood, sometimes it comes off as negative.
I don't take it as a negative term. Is it a negative term?
No. And I think, you know, part of the you know, the idea of not all hood is hood is not a negative term.
Hood is part of the community. Like when we speak of the black community, we always tend to refer to it as if it's a model.
That's right. But there are all these different lanes to the black meat,
all these levels,
all these different lanes.
And oftentimes we don't have a space where we can actually,
you know,
discuss,
acknowledge and deal with,
with all of those levels,
all those lanes.
So the hood is not a bad thing.
Yes,
we are hood,
but we're not all hood.
And the meat and the part of is the media tends to uh put more
focus on one aspect of the black man thus we get all the stereotypes and preconceived ideas and
hood comes from like neighborhood neighborhood right i did get that question a lot though what's
that you have been a podcast isn't hood negative is so i understand where you're coming from but
just like they said it's a neighborhood i mean i i live in a place where I'm next to a lot of Indian neighborhood, Jewish neighborhood.
You can still call the hood.
People also associate the word hood with just with just us, which is black.
So it's just one of those things.
It's it's it's kind of some damage that the media, the pop culture, the news has done and really trying to define who we are.
Yeah, I never took it as negative.
It was always, I'm going back to the hood.
It didn't mean I'm going back home to my neighborhood.
Right, right, exactly.
Wherever it was, I'm going to play basketball in the hood,
which was my neighborhood.
You know what I mean?
I never took it as, oh my gosh, there's a place.
No, I never took it as that.
I know a lot of people do,
but that was always just like going home, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
What are some of the topics you guys will be discussing?
Black fatherhood.
Yeah, black fatherhood um being old older fathers with younger children yeah so yeah how you guys handling that yo what is your youngest how old are your youngest so youngest only one we only have one
oh y'all because i got a two-year-old, so. Oh. Ooh, salute. And then I got a 22-year-old. What do y'all call older black fathers?
I'm 53.
I got a nine-year-old.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I got six.
He got four.
Yeah.
I'll be 46 in a couple weeks.
Wow.
My youngest is two.
I got a two-year-old, a five-year-old, eight-year-old.
And my oldest is 15.
Yeah, yeah.
So y'all started around when we started.
Yeah, I'm 53, and my daughter just turned seven.
Okay, okay.
Y'all can have a conversation.
Yeah, right.
Word.
You know what I mean?
Those days where they be on go-go, you know what I mean?
And you got to just ramp your energy up and make it happen.
You know what I mean?
That's crazy you say that.
My homeboy told me that a long time ago.
You know, all my homeboys had kids way younger than I did.
Right.
And he was like, man, you can wait until you're 30 plus 40 to have kids.
You're going to be running around.
Your knee's going to be hurting. I'm like, no no it won't yes they are exactly but doesn't some good
come with that you being older so to speak yeah you know being a father and not being 21 not being
having growth yourself that you have to go through oh yeah my last uh my my two youngest get a version
of me that did not exist right years ago, 10 years ago,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I spent more of my adult life in longterm relations,
more years of my adult life in longterm relationships than not.
My wife and I have been together eight and a half years and not more than two
days go by that.
I don't give thanks to the universe for giving me the wisdom
and fortitude to have waited as long as they did a lot of people like he's never gonna get married
and i think at some point i probably thought like we used to have these conversations like
yo they looking at us like we you know damaged goods like what do you mean you're 39 you don't
got no kids you're not married nah he got a problem yeah i mean it's the best thing i know
for me it's the best thing i would done. I definitely would not have been as effective a husband and father had I done this any earlier with anybody else.
That is such a great conversation you never hear men have.
That's a conversation you always hear women have.
So you actually waited?
You were actually waiting for the right person?
You know how many bullets you know i kneeled my way out
but your circumstance was different though because you didn't know people wanted to be with you or
they wanted to be with Theo
Because I've been doing it for so long
I've been really blessed
With a great sense of discernment
So that was never my issue
To be completely transparent
My thing about marriage was like
Yo I'm not getting married
And then giving a chick half of my stuff
Because I messed up
So I was very clear That even though there were situations Yo, I'm not getting married and then giving a chick half of my stuff because I messed up.
So I was very clear that even though there were situations that were really pressuring, if you will, that kind of marriage.
I was like, nah, because I knew me.
I knew that I wasn't going to, I wasn't giving half of my trap because I messed up.
What about you, Wee? it was about just being patient like i i know me and i know that like not everybody's gonna be
able to deal with me as a community organizer who really understands that the people around me that
are close to me are gonna be okay my work in life is to make sure that other people are gonna be
okay so sometimes i'm i'm a little hard on the people that are close right i'm gonna get out and like they're gonna have to take a back seat
sometimes right that was part of it and the big part was like raising my child the idea of like
me getting married and having a child you gotta be special man you gots to be special so um i love
you shelly yeah we have one show where we have these two and lamar rucker and i just sit back and i listen
that's like there's gonna be some people that are taking notes some women that are taking notes
because they really i was like this is some good like you said i don't hear that a lot
just talking about fatherhood and just the humility and how proud they are and then all
the rules and lessons that they learned along the way while they were dating.
It really was a note-taking moment.
It was good. You guys have boys or girls?
Girls. Oh yeah,
your girl dad. When y'all said that, I was kind of suspect.
Girls. It's different.
It's way different.
He has four. You've got four girls?
I got four girls. It's lovely, isn't it?
I love it. Yeah, yeah. I love it and I deserve it.
That's adult, you know, they say.
All of it.
All of it.
All side.
All of it, yeah.
How does that change you having girls?
I got four girls.
Charlamagne has four girls.
How does that change you as a father?
I got two boys too, though, but them girls change you.
So I asked the universe for a girl first.
Even before conception, we were very clear we were having a girl.
And I knew that I needed a girl first to kind before conception, we were very clear we were having a girl. And I knew that I needed
a girl first
to kind of ease me into it
because I have a pretty good idea
of what kind of father
I would be.
So I needed a girl
to kind of slow me down
and warm,
soften me up,
if you will.
So for me,
raising my daughter,
I came into fatherhood
already with a certain maturity,
certain understanding
of male-female dynamics. And with a certain maturity you know certain understanding of male female
dynamics and with a girl all of that starts with the father for me the biggest gift that i can give
my daughter is a sense of self so when she goes out into the world she is not easily influenced
by her surroundings right so since she was like two years old,
you know,
someone says to her,
Oh,
you're so pretty.
You're so cute.
You're so beautiful.
She'll say,
thank you.
And I'm smart too.
That's how we run it.
Like that's the normalization I want her to have in terms of how she sees herself in characters.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
What do you see?
The same thing.
Like,
you know,
it's a humbling space.
Giving my daughter like a different kind of vocabulary that's empowering to her so that when she interacts, she knows she she walks and talks from a position of power.
Absolutely.
Can you speak to that, Candice?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I come from a family of three girls.
OK.
All everything that he poured into me.
And, you know, sometimes you're doing something.
You're like, oh, that's my dad.
What I did right there.
That's my mom.
Like you can you know when they've poured into it, when you see you doing things that are just dad what i did right there that's my mom like you can you know when they've
poured into it when you see you doing things that are just like what they did and you don't even
realize it so you don't even realize what the kids see and don't see but really my parents really
allowed me to see all of the right things they really did all right we got more with malcolm
jamal warner candace kelly and why you see Baraka when we come back from the Nod Podcast. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Welcome everybody. It's DJ Envy,
Jess O'Leary, and Charlamagne Tha God. We are
the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malcolm Jamal
Warner, Candace Kelly, and YUC
Baraka from the Nod Orhood Podcast.
Charlamagne? Malcolm, are you afraid of being
too honest and too vulnerable on these podcasts?
Because we know in this era, people get very
loose on these podcasts.
As we've seen.
And people have a certain image of you.
Do you even care about that?
So it's interesting.
So I've said that in interviews
that this is the most vulnerable.
And I've always been pretty transparent
in my art and my poetry and music.
But I don't worry about it.
I got a good taste of it just this week
because we had our first episode dropped on Monday.
And we were having a conversation about the N-word.
And I made a statement about J. Cole.
It's really interesting how many people were not listening to what I was saying and took my comments as I was hating on J. Cole.
So it's things like that.
And then the way the Instagram,
the Art of Dialogue.
And other.
Yeah, the way they worded it.
That's the word we in.
Right.
So it was like,
oh, right.
This is the reason why
I stopped commenting on IG
first thing in the morning.
Malcolm Jamal
when it says he stopped
listening to J. Cole.
Yeah, man.
Let's play the clip here
so people understand.
What are you talking about? Are you playing it in context? Are you playing it in context? I'm sure we don't have the clip here so people undertake like what what are you talking
are you playing it in context in context i'm sure we don't have the clip up do you have a clip
for me in hip-hop i think the word is i think it should be this should be a moratorium
on both of those words in hip-hop because it's low-line fruit it's so easy everybody
does it to the point that it's corny like there are emcees who I love
who I cannot listen to anymore because I can't I love J. Cole but I had to stop listening to
J. Cole because I got tired of hearing f*** and b***h as much as we do since because he's proven
himself to be such a incredible lyricist that you think it's if you think it's just too low hanging fruit
for him to use those words
I feel like
with the
gratuitousness
that he does
and the regularity
that he does
for me
as an artist
it feels lazy
and I love J. Cole
okay
dig it
dig it
dig it
so many people
you know
they just ignore
the fact that I said I love J. Cole.
And I said that most of my favorite emcees, you know, are guilty of the same thing.
We're talking about, you know, perpetuating anti-black messaging in our black music.
So that was really my point.
See, I don't understand that.
That's when they lose me.
How is that anti-black?
How is that N-word saying you don't like the n-word anti-black
messaging isn't the n-word anti-black that's what i'm saying my perspective is so much of our black
music today like you take the dope beats away and you just listen to to the lyrics lyrically it's
anti-black you know what i'm saying and we talk about you know so much of you know hip-hop today that's trash and whatnot
but you know as I said before they grew up listening to what we were listening
to right so we are complicit in you know the parts of hip-hop today that we don't
like because they grew up listening to us listening listening to the content is
the same the skill set is just whack that's true right which is what makes it
stand out but also they didn't listen to what we were listening to.
We listened to music when there was more than just hip-hop.
Hip-hop was not the juggernaut of music that it is now.
It was R&B.
Right, right.
You know, like, we was rocking the Salt Hall Notes.
Hill Collins.
Right.
You know what I mean?
80s.
Yeah.
Like, we had these, a lot of other influences that i think the youth of today
don't necessarily have yeah it turns the balance yeah would you say j cole had the anti-black
message no so so for me because has become the staple in hip-hop like there's got to be
that's why i said in that clip i think there should be a moratorium on both of those words
in hip-hop because at this point it's corny it's lazy everybody is using it so let's like you
know there there are so many brilliant writers and lyricists out there that it's like come on let's
let's let's step our game up we don't have to keep doing it if everybody's doing it then come on do
something different you know so my thing with with jay cole it just i just got to a point where i got
tired of hearing inward or being called inward in every hip-hop song I'm listening
to and I mentioned J. Cole because I love J. Cole and he's such an incredible lyricist that when I
hear him just gratuitously use either of those words I'm like ah I mean you kind of I have to
tune out yeah it doesn't mean doesn't mean I like J. Cole or respect his pin game any less.
I just go, all right, I got a 2-0.
Because it's not feeding me.
But I also think it's evolution, too, right?
I went to Hampton.
When I used to drive to Hampton, I'm listening to Nori because it's keeping me up.
What, what, what?
And I'm thinking I'm the biggest what?
I'm the biggest stuff out there, right?
But then when you get a little older, you'll be like, ah, it's a little noise, right?
Let me turn on some memory. I still like listening to it when I'm working out. I'm from the South. be like, ah, it's a little noise, right? Let me turn on some.
I still like listening to it when I'm working out from the South workout.
That's it.
Everything.
Yeah.
But I also grew up on goody mom.
I grew up on outcasts, you know,
and I think we've got more of a balance,
right?
As we get older,
one,
we've got,
we've been exposed to more music.
It's a little different now.
You know what I mean?
Like they still in the,
in the throes of what's hot,
the,
how we access music is different now because they're just like,
yo, you know, point and click, not necessarily about what's on the radio we access music is different now because they're just like, yo, point and click.
Not necessarily about what's on the radio.
It's about what they want to listen to
and they've got direct access to that.
You know, Candace,
I want to ask from a woman's perspective
because you know what I find interesting, right?
We have these conversations,
but I will never forget Snoop Dogg and DMX's verses.
When they did their verses,
I think it was during COVID.
And I remember thinking,
oh, this is going to be the night
that boy, they finally listen to Snoop and DMmx and it's gonna be a woke cancel fest on
twitter but there was people in the comments the same people i i usually see trying to cancel
people loving it yeah so how does that make you feel knowing you came up in that era of the 90s
is it conflicting that you no not at all and i'm right in the middle with them in terms of number
one the n-word and just this whole idea of music and what it represents because i love wu-tang and when i listen to them
i get like a good energy out not just work out but when something goes wrong sometimes that music
allows you to let stuff out that's right you know that you just couldn't get out in the day when
you're with your peers or when you're on the streets you just in the car loud with it and then i also think it's a it's a how were we brought up and what do we bring to the table
so the n-word for example i don't know how you were introduced to it ever but that's shaped
probably what the word means to you and same with me probably same too we all have different things
that we bring to the table just culturally um and i think that just shifts and i'm a firm believer
in the first amendment like all the way because once you start saying no here and no here then i'm giving somebody
else the authority to say no to me one day too and i don't want that precedent i don't want them
saying well you can't say this and you can't say that just because of the content of it or the
context of it we don't like it at all it's like when they try to bring up rap lyrics when they go to to jail in court right i mean that doesn't make any sense we all have the same
equal first amendment rights and you should fight for them and use them equally all right we got
more with malcolm jamal warner candace kelly and yuc baraka when we come back from the nod podcast
it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv jess hilarious charlamagne
the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking them with malcolm jamal warner candace This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We're still kicking it with Malcolm Jamal Warner, Candace Kelly, and YUC Baraka from the Not All Hood podcast.
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
TikTok-er, I've seen her online.
She said the N-word, right?
She got fired from her regular job.
Oh, but this was the girl who was cooking.
That young lady.
Yes.
And in her comments, she was like-
She was also white, by the way.
Yes.
She was white.
That's a critical point's that's a critical point
but this is where i'ma close with she said on her tiktok that she didn't apologize because it was
her first right amendment to say what she wanted to say and she shouldn't have got fired what's
your thoughts on somebody like that it is her first right amendment yeah uh but then there's
three different rules there's first amendment rules on tiktok there's first amendment rules
at her work and then there's her own rules of what she believes about the n-word and all of them conflicted and
she got exactly what she deserved she did but then that's what happened that's why you do have to be
careful with it you can't be on tiktok saying it i mean this is a good example no not being a white
person no no you can't so you just have to really understand how to use the first amendment too so
for example if you're the kkk you can walk march anywhere in america you just have to use the first amendment too so for example if you're the kkk you can walk march
anywhere in america you just have to get the permit you can't walk on your own you have to
follow the rules she didn't follow the rules she didn't follow her own hr rules at work and that
was her problem she got what she deserved that's right but you know what like you said it's also
where you came from, right?
Because New York, the N-word was a sign of endearment.
Sure.
What's up, my a**?
What's up this?
It was that.
Right.
You know, you really didn't hear the extremes of it until I went to Hampton in the South.
And you'd be like, oh, no, they're not saying it as a sign.
Right, right, right, right, right.
That's a a**hole of my lawn.
Right, right, right.
It's different ways.
And that's sort of been part of my argument.
For a lot of people, it's a term of endearment.
Like, it's love.
There are more interactions that are using the word that are about love than there are about disrespect.
So, you know, and yes, we know the history of it.
We also know that that's mine.
You know what I mean?
You also said we sold our culture out.
We feel that way.
In terms of hip-hop?
Yeah.
Industry-wise, it's sort of the bigger picture, right?
Because they did the jazz like they co-opted it and used it for their own purposes but there wasn't messages in jazz that were
going to have an effect i mean yeah like people see themselves right i mean yeah i mean we sold
ourselves out but i also feel like from a macro perspective the civil rights movement created a lot of opportunities and it shifted the mentality that
made many of us
very passive.
I know where you're going. Brother Marty said that though.
I feel like I integrated
my people into a burning house.
Into a burning house, right?
It was more of a sense of independence.
Go deeper, it's okay.
No argument. Man, my godfather gonna call me and be like, Go deeper, it's okay. Nah. We got time. We got time. We got time. We got time. All right.
It's okay.
No argument.
No argument.
Man, my godfather gonna call me and be like, young man.
It's heavy.
It's a lot.
And I'm like, ah, you got me in a pinch right now.
Damn.
I mean, there was a time, and hip hop artists talk about it.
When the record labels say to them,
this is what you have to rap about
this is what we're paying for you to write and again i say in a lot of ways we are complicit in
what we see you know the state of hip-hop and the younger generation we allowed that to happen and
for the dollars tucker she was right i'm gonna get a t-shirt that says uh auntie was right
i got a couple more questions i want people to subscribe to the podcast.
But when it comes to TV and movies, do you have the same discretion with the N-word and the B-word?
Yeah.
You mean in terms of using it or in terms of my use of it or the industry's use of it?
Both.
So I think I am against the gratuitous use of the word. So I understand all of the arguments and all of the defending,
but I think what's getting lost is I'm referring to the gratuitous use of it.
Sure, we can talk all day about there are some circumstances
where that word is the only thing that really, you know.
So I'm aware of all of that.
But my issue, as I said it's the gratuitous
use of it yeah because i would imagine right that if you get a tight script that takes place in the
1960s well that script's gonna have the n word yes right so so right that's that's different and
that's what we we talk about a lot amongst the three of us is that it does have a place we can't
just erase that a history,
right?
It has a place.
You cannot do certain things without the word coming up.
It's just where you place it in your own life.
And that's where you play.
Yeah.
I can't go do an August Wilson play period.
You don't want to say,
I'm not going to use this word.
So I get all of that.
I think my issue is along with the I go back to
anti-black messaging in our
music the gratuitous use of
the n-word it's just you know it's just for me
I'm just like you know enough already
I say enough already but then I also go back
to you know there's so many
incredible lyricists
who have proven
their pin game is top notch
and I go well just like elevate the
if all these corny motherf***** are using them in all of their lyrics then elevate like show them
and also when we're in our 40s and 50s still rapping the same we're rapping in our 20s
it's like that's not even you know like like show me some growth right like if you're not
even giving me any integrity
in your art
an evolution
evolution yeah
and growth
and I like
I just can't
and it's not feeding my soul
can't do it
I can't do it
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it's the breakfast program
morning
your execution
on the donkey of the day
is something to behold
give me the reed
he gave me donkey of the day
and I deserve it
people need to know
well you need to tell them
I am
you have the voice
tell them
tell them
it's time for donkey of the day
it's a reed
but you're so good at it.
You're trying to be a fake-ass Charlemagne.
There's only one Charlemagne to go.
Damn, Charlemagne.
Who you give the Donkey of the Day to now?
Yes, Donkey of the Day goes to a woman named Michelle Young.
She's 46 years old, and she's from Burlington, Iowa.
She faces charges of reckless use of fire, explosives, destructive devices, and possession of drugs
for paraphernalia.
You know, earlier,
we was talking about
the Carly Russell story.
And Carly Russell
is on probation,
and as part of her probation,
she has to go to
mental health counseling.
And Jess,
you said something
I agree with.
Everything isn't
a mental health issue.
Some people just make
poor choices.
Very true.
So I'm interested to hear
what you think
about Michelle Young's situation.
Did she make a bad choice? Or is there something emotionally and mentally wrong? Let's go to KCRG ABC 9 News
for the report, please. Six, a Burlington woman is facing charges after police say she set fire
to a porch. According to a Des Moines County arrest affidavit, it happened just after 4.30
p.m. yesterday on Vineyard Street. Police say when they arrived on scene, 46-year-old Michelle Young was standing on the porch.
She told them a friend lived in the home, but the resident who saw the incident on her home security camera said she didn't know this woman at all and had never seen her before.
Young is charged with reckless use of fire and possession of drug paraphernalia.
What does that sound like, Mental health issues or just portraits?
Let me give you some more information.
Let me give you some more information.
Michelle Young set her friend's porch on fire because her friend didn't answer.
Now, full disclosure, this is how
I be feeling when people I love don't answer the phone.
When I know my wife is home and she don't
answer the phone, I be wanting to set things on fire.
When I call Jess Hilarious and she don't
answer, but then I see her back-to-back posting videos and pictures on her story, I be wanting to set things on fire when I called just a Larry's and she don't answer but then I see her back-to-back posting videos and
pictures on her story I'd be wanting to set things on fire but I don't because
I'm mentally and emotionally stable oh and one more fun fact Michelle Young
said this was her friend's house but as you heard in the news report she didn't
know this woman and the woman didn't know her would you like to know some
more details Michelle Young told officers she believed the home belonged to a friend.
She also said that she saw a sign that said, which is welcome.
And because she was a witch, she identifies as a witch.
She lit some items on fire, set the porch on fire.
Now, I don't know too many people who have a sign in their yard that says, which is welcome, unless it's Halloween.
Was this a sign that's been up since Halloween?
Was there even really a sign? And even though the sign says, which is welcome unless it's halloween was this a sign that's been up since halloween was there even really a sign and even though the sign says which is welcome welcome to do what huh did the sign say you're welcome to commit arson was it a fire sign meaning she was in
aries leo sagittarius all i'm simply wondering is jess do you think this woman needs some type
of mental health counseling or does she need an exorcism before you answer would you like to see her
picture yes would you like to see her picture nick zoom in on this oh my god okay okay oh wow
we can't play a game now mentally ill and an exorcism because she's gonna need therapy after
to get the demon out of her is there a difference between demonic possession and mental disorder?
See, some of y'all need a psychotherapist, but some of y'all need an exorcist.
Okay?
And that's the problem.
That's the issue we don't discuss enough.
And that's demonic possession.
You know I encourage y'all to go to therapy all the time, but some of y'all don't just need a therapist.
Y'all actually need an exorcist.
Okay?
We love to say that ain't nothing but the devil.
But y'all don't even know what the devil looks like.
Look at this mugshot.
Look, America.
Okay, we've been looking.
Put it down.
Not America.
This woman looks like one version of five different characters from The Wizard of Oz.
How can one person simultaneously look like the Cowardly Lion, the Scarecrow, Dorothy, the Tin Man, and the Wicked Witch of the West?
Look.
See? When you dance with the devil, the Tin Man, and the Wicked Witch of the West. Look. See?
When you dance with the devil, the devil does not alternate.
The devil changes you.
You're not going to tell me this woman has not been changed.
Okay?
This woman did not always look like Gary Owens if he transitioned into Gail Owens.
Okay?
She do give a little Gary.
A little.
A lot.
This Gary's sister. This is Gary sister It's either Gary sister
Or Gary
Okay
Alright
Gary gonna get that
Netflix special
One way or the other
You hear me
Please give Michelle Young
The sweet sounds
Of the Hamilton
You are the donkey
Of the day
You are the donkey
Of the day
Yee-haw
Yee-haw
Damn!
All right.
Look at this one.
Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.
She looks like the Joker
if the Joker wanted to speak to a manager.
Yeah, she...
Oh, my God.
She does, man. Look. Look. Oh, my God. She does, man.
Look.
Look.
Look at this woman.
She looks scary.
Oh, my God.
She looks like she holds a barbecue every January 6th.
Insurrection party.
This is Gary On's sister.
I don't care what nobody says.
Because he's a Gary On's.
And Gary On said, you know what?
I'm going to transition into Gail.
And then I'm going to get my first Netflix special.
God, Jesus.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building, Dr. Wes Bellamy.
Welcome.
What up, bro?
How you doing, man?
I'm good.
I'm good, man.
How you?
I'm doing well.
Good, good, man.
Appreciate y'all having me up here.
Yes, sir.
With the man, this man Charlamagne.
He's the man. But, Lord, if you're in politics, he is a hard friend to have.
Why is that?
Why is he such a hard friend?
Let's jump right into it.
I'm defending him nonstop.
That's my man, though, so he know I'm with him, man.
You know, one of the things I wanted to say to you and to the people as a whole, like I think, I was just talking about this in the back.
I think people don't understand how much you read or how politically astute you actually are.
And also that you speak to a different demographic
than some quote unquote politicals normally talk to.
Because you are like a very strong truth teller
and speaking from a different demographic
or speaking to a different demographic,
people are like, yo, what the hell?
But I want to make sure I give you flowers.
Like, yo, man, I appreciate the work
and what you do for the community.
Thank you, brother.
And speaking up and speaking for a different perspective.
But, Lord, you had me at the White House last night, Dad, Juneteenth.
I felt like I was 20 v. 1, like I was Drake, man.
Well, you know what you should do, doctor?
You should tell all of them people that love to be on the Hill to come with you in the hood.
Yo, that's real.
You actually be out here touching the people and having conversations with people,
so you know what people are actually talking about.
The same people that they claim to be speaking for,
they don't speak to.
It's real.
I mean, I don't think we can deny that in any capacity.
I mean, the things in which we hear in our communities,
and again, I'm glad you all have us up here.
We're talking about the 100 Black Men,
our 16-city tour, Real Men Vote,
where we're going to all these different cities
talking to black men about the importance of voting
and then being engaged.
And literally, we're hearing the exact same things, not only that you all are saying here on the radio,
but things in which some people think, oh, that's just crazy.
Like, no, brothers and sisters, for that matter, are really believing these things.
And we have to do collectively a better job of educating our communities in terms of just really what happens in voting on the local, state, federal level.
I saw Jasmine up here the other day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I really appreciate the way in which she breaks down things.
And we need more of that, just real truth-telling.
And because we're not being as honest as we should be in communicating and conveying our
message in a way to people who don't have doctorates or they don't have law degrees i think there's a
lot of misinformation that's going out and then people are just more easy and acceptable or
susceptible rather to the misinformation and i think right now the thing that frustrates so many
people is once again it feels like we're voting out of fear yeah by the way this is probably the
one time in my whole existence that we absolutely have a reason to be truly scared about the end of democracy.
But they've been saying this for so long.
And now all they're offering once again is fear.
Right, right, right.
It's like, huh?
Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of the issue that using fear and scare tactics as a way to get people to be able to go and do, quote unquote, what they believe to be the right thing.
After so long, you you become numb to it but i do believe honestly and
i'm being very candid that democracy as you've often alluded to is under attack and i think that
not just democracy is under attack like our traditional or quote unquote regular way of being could really be jeopardized if collectively all of our communities, not just black folk, but all of our communities don't go out and vote our best interests and not vote misinformation.
But again, vote our best interest. And my position is like, again, what we're doing with the hundred black men and our real men vote to are talking to brothers about again like why we have to be engaged and more
than anything else yo you can't afford to just pretend as if things are just okay and i know
that we don't always see the transitions and the change from administration to administration
to impact in the hood but that's also why we got to be engaged on the local level and encourage
brothers to run for office for that matter what do you tell to somebody who who does not necessarily
like donald trump but also does not like joe biden you know i mean and that's what do you tell somebody who who does not necessarily like donald trump but
also does not like joe biden you know i mean and that's what we're seeing a lot of right they're
not happy uh with the things that joe biden done in the last four years and they don't like trump
so it's like what do you tell those individuals one in four americans have an unfavorable view
of both presidents of both presidents uh so me personally i say yo it's not just about the people
who are quote unquote in the presidency.
Like we have to talk about who's being appointed to Supreme Court justice, who's being appointed to the federal justices.
Excuse me. I'm the appellate courts. Who's being able to have access to the state houses because parties do play a major role.
And then in addition to that, when we talk about economics and resources, being able to be to flow through our communities,
whether that be the creation of black businesses and having the capital to be able to start your black business, to be able to maintain your black business. Like all of those things are mandated and to a certain extent going to be supported based off of who you elect in this in this presidential election.
And, yo, you can go and say you like whoever you don't like. But again, I always encourage people vote for your best interests.
And then in the in the congressional seats, which we have a ton of different seats up this year, Senate side on the House of Representatives side, Congress is really who pushes things through. Then there's no reason why, again, we should be voting for people or persons who have outwardly said they care very little about how we improve as a people.
When I look at the you know, this is just me talking as one representative, as one individual.
Now, when I look at the platinum plan, the two page platinum plan that Donald Trump put forth a couple of years ago and I I haven't seen thus far, like, cause I'm a, I'm an independent.
I haven't seen thus far Trump bring forth any kind of plan or action plan for
black America,
whether that be on economic side,
whether that be on the educational side,
whether that be a freedom and justice,
whether that be just criminal justice reform,
healthcare,
women's rights,
so on and so forth.
We haven't seen any plan.
So to me, it's very simple
when we look at who we should vote for but i understand and recognize i didn't have one either
till he got pushed and then he came over with what the lift every voice and sing plan
yeah i mean yeah but you ain got to say it like the name.
But you see what I'm saying? That's what, that's the problem right there. That is the name of the plan. So it's just, it sounds just as ridiculous as the platinum plan to lift every voice and sing
play. It ain't lift every voice and sing. But it was based off the song.
This is what I'm talking about now and
then i'm gonna get the calls after this but here's the thing i'm not that far off no like lift every
voice plan is the same difference but i but i think but i think there is a fundamental difference
so the names may be you know they the names of the bills can be what they are but the substance
of the two are very different and and again for me like i'm not a
quote-unquote biden apologist but when i look at them putting billions of dollars into student loan
uh debt relief you know as an individual who just got his student loans um you got a lot
way down too yeah two hundred and eight thousand dollars wow you know i'm saying and i mean even
when you think about that there in itself i went and got three degrees all three of my degrees from
hbcus shout out to south carolina state my alma mater and virginia state where i got my master's
in my doctorate and where i'm the political science department chair now shout out to envy
for coming to state last year to virginia state last year to the students yeah come and talk to
the students but like you know again for me to get three degrees it cost me 208 000 like that's
ridiculous there in itself and the fact that you have so many persons on the right
actively saying yo there should be no student loan relief it's crazy when we know the biggest
benefactors of student loan relief are black folk so again vote your interests now there will be
people who say like well nah you chose to take on that student loan debt and that's true but
education shouldn't cost that much no
matter what and again when we're talking about and specifically when i'm talking to brothers
around the country about yo vote your interest you're voting for not just yourself but for your
children your grandchildren your little cousins your mentees whomever i wouldn't advise you to
go to hampton but i would no no it's love it's love but you know again man we have to vote our interest and
that's important all right we got more with dr west bellamy when we come back don't move it's
the breakfast club good morning good morning everybody it's dj nv jess alari shalameen the
guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with dr west bellamy yes sir now let's talk
about the documentary why is the documentary so important to make and for people to see
yeah man um yeah time to yell more than
a statue really telling the story of i think charlottesville in some regards has become a
hashtag people are like yo that's the place where those crazy white people came with tiki torches
but there's a lot more to it i mean we have some very strong people within our community um black
women specifically a shout out to my little sis sister zionna bryant um she was
14 years old writing a petition you know i'm saying saying yo we got to get these statues removed
um people like tanisha hudson you know mayor nakaya walker our first black female mayor we
had white people like kristin sacos um you know there was a lot of people within our community
who rallied together for us to be able to do something
in my personal opinion that was monumental and then subsequently we saw across the country people
using literally our resolutions like we had a elected officials group chat and people like yo
west send me that resolution and them getting their statues removed and i think like the power
of quote-unquote hate and even what we're seeing right now with the far right movements and people just being blatantly racist.
Like them coming to Charlottesville and saying like like with signs that West Bellamy, we're going to hang your black ass or like people come in and saying like we're going to destroy and kill anybody who fights back against us as you try to move these statues.
And in a community saying like, nah, we're not having that.
We're going to stand up. We're going to speak up statues and in a community saying like nah we're not having that we're gonna stand up we're gonna speak up is a powerful story and you know rest in peace to the
to the young sister heather higher who actually was killed on august 12th um i met her mom before
met her mom yeah so so you know i'm saying like when people when people lose their life
fighting for this and then again you see the the power and the beauty of people coming together to
say yo we're going to fight back.
We firmly believe that right now, more than any time, it's a story to be told.
And if you want to vote for the dude who said it's very fine people on both sides,
after people try to like kill me, kill my family, kill, you know, people actually kill someone.
Then I think you really need to think twice.
Do you feel like the events of Charlottesville are spoken about enough?
I think it depends on who you ask. I think, from in for a long time we were more so like a
hashtag and we really want to show again that our community is much more than that when you talk
about spoken of enough for me it doesn't really matter how people quote unquote speak of it or
speak of us i firmly believe that it's just important to do the work but i do think it's
important for us to tell our story and there's a multitude of stories that could be told.
This documentary is really just telling it from my lens.
But there's several people, as I alluded to, you know, Zai and Nakia and Tanisha and, you know, Charles Lewis and Will Jones, who's in the doc.
You know, he started a run club. We started this prolific run club.
It's a multitude of people and it's all intertwined.
And we're telling our own story
you know and and for us you know or excuse me for me rather i think that you can have black folk
heal in their particular way you can have white folk heal in their particular way and we don't
always have to quote unquote strive for unity like my thing is let's strive for respect because if i
respect you then i won't do any harm towards you and if i won't do any harm towards you then i can
value you and we can move forward accordingly and i think that's kind of what we get across
in this documentary you're gonna see brothers in the hood playing like in my basketball league the
tonsil league you're gonna see white people and black people running together you're gonna see
some really contentious moments and of people you know getting it in and arguing and fighting but more than anything we come out
on top what is some uh some truths that black people need to know before casting their vote
in november because i you know i think we had the good sister congresswoman crockett up here
and i was telling her about one of my mentees in georgia yeah who was watching her yeah speak and you know congresswoman
crockett said hey y'all should go google what this administration has done that's why y'all don't
know what they've done because it's so much yeah and i'm like that's not good messaging yeah no
you gotta go google i ain't going i ain't doing it yeah yeah yeah i mean it's real like and let
me be clear again y'all i'm not I'm not a surrogate of the administration.
Shout out to my man, Trey Baker
and Antoine Seawright
and even Congressman Clyburn.
They know, I'll send a message quick,
like, yo, this is some bulls**t.
But I do, again, believe in giving credit
what credit is due.
The fact that the Biden administration
has meticulously and strategically
provided billions of dollars
for not only student loan relief,
but provided over like $200 million
for black businesses to be scaled.
I think that there in itself is huge.
When we look at housing and affordable housing,
the work that former Secretary Marsha Fudge was doing
in terms of the voucher system.
I currently serve as the chair of our
Housing Authority Board.
The HUD,
they've been doing some good work in terms of
being able to get resources back in the HUD
and empower our
people to not only thrive in
public housing, but get out of public housing.
Home ownership, they have
tons of programs in that regard.
I would say, you know, the list does go on and on, but it's not up to us, quote unquote, to tell those stories.
So when you ask me, like, what are some real truths?
Yo, the administration has to do a better job.
Point blank. Simple. You look at the Republican side.
Yo, whether it may not be a lot of substance
they go on ride for for what they're doing and talk about the work in which they believe in
which they're doing or what they're fighting against it's usually not what they're doing
but it's about what they're fighting against i don't necessarily always see that on the democratic
side or i'll say that it doesn't receive the same amount of attention because it's the way it's
delivered their messaging sucks it's ass no but how delivered. Their messaging sucks. It's ass.
But how come when you say that, nobody get mad at you?
But when I say that, it's World War III on us.
Because one, bro, you Charlemagne and you known for saying wild s**t.
But also, I think that even, and again, in your political astuteness,
you're holding individuals accountable in a way in which they feel maybe shouldn't be done right now
because it's so close to the election
i think that's really what the gripe is with individuals with you and it's some individuals
because it's not a multitude of people because like yo it's a lot of people who feel the exact
same way in which you feel like you're speaking for a demographic of people who at least me when
i'm in the hood i hear people saying the same saying every day well tell them more how they
can see the documentary yeah yeah yeah so i'm super
excited uh we're having a special screening in charlottesville virginia on tuesday um june 25th
hosted by my dear sister simone sanders uh former mayor nikai walker will jones a few others are
going to be on a talk back afterwards and then after that you know we're looking to to make sure
people can pick it up hopefully we'll have a distributor by then and people will be able to see it any and everywhere.
But I think it's a pretty good body of work.
And I'm looking forward to, again, people being able to see it, learn more about our city.
And then also from the 100 Black Men side, we have 12 more cities to go to.
We'll be talking to black men about why it's important for us to vote.
So we've got a few things coming up and I'm looking forward to your support.
And again, you know, man, Charlemagne, Envy, Jessess we really appreciate y'all supporting us and i'm gonna say one more
thing about you real quick like people don't really get to know you but i appreciate you
always being willing to share your platform and help our people out that means a lot and envy i
don't think you get the credit that you quite deserve in terms of what you give back to our
hbcu specifically like your hbcu summer tour or a tour that you do you know i'm saying in the in the spring is really dope
and to see you come to my school and those kids were were talking about it forever man that that
really meant a lot all right oh there you have it dr west bellamy it's the breakfast club good morning
the breakfast club Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Good morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
All right, Charlemagne, you got a positive note?
Yes, the positive note is simply this, man.
I said it once during Donkey of the Day.
I want to repeat it.
When you choose an action, you choose the consequences of that action.
When you desire a consequence consequence you had damn well better
take the action that would create it okay we all make choices but in the end our choices make us
we are free to choose our paths but we can't choose the consequences that come with them
breakfast club bitches you don't finish or y'all done