The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Stephanie Mills Interview, Joseline Hernandez Interview, Deon Cole Interview, Jess Hilarious And Baby Father Rome)

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:58 in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence,
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Starting point is 00:02:44 The Breakfast Club. Envy and Charlamagne, the voice of the culture. You think I'm going to come here when this shit ain't hot? See, y'all are different. Y'all are the culture. It's different. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all know what y'all talking about. This is probably becoming the most prominent forum for hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big. Perspective. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Wake up! This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He'll tell you what it is. We live. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Chris. Chris, what up? Get it off your chest. Hey, man, I want to say, man, I'm proud of y'all, man. DJ Envy and Charlamagne. Charlamagne, I've been Get it off your chest. Hey, man, I want to say, man, I'm proud of y'all, man. DJ Envy, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Charlamagne, I've been reading your book. My girl got me a book, man. I've been checking that out, and it's been real helpful for me, man. I just like what y'all got doing. Thank you, King. Which book you got you? Black Privilege or Shook One? Both of them.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Matter of fact, she got me one for Father's Day and one for Christmas. Black Girl, man. I appreciate that, though, man. That's a good read. Thank you. Hello, who's this? I don't want to say my name. Okay, well, what's up on the radio? Nobody can see you. You could have made up a name.
Starting point is 00:03:55 No, but, you know, people be listening, but I have a question because I just recently got broken up with, right? I'm in a lesbian relationship, and I went out of town not too long ago and I you know I have a business so I was networking and I was speaking to a male um about my business and who worked at the bar that I was I'm doing my homework at and so I came back home and he sent me a message he's like hey how you doing how's your family did y'all get back safe
Starting point is 00:04:21 and my girlfriend has a problem with it and so she broke up with me like she's like i'm a lesbian i don't deal with males and i'm just like i do business i network with males and females i just wanted to like is that wrong um i don't think that's wrong at all i mean if there was even if it was another woman i mean as long as y'all not flirting in this business i don't see a problem with it you weren't hiding it from your girl so it's not like you were trying to be deceptive or sneaking around no i don't see a problem with it. You weren't hiding it from your girl. So it's not like you were trying to be deceptive or sneaking around. No, I don't see a problem with it. Yeah, but those, you know, she probably upset. She probably upset because you're talking to somebody who, you know, got something that she could never have, which is a penis, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And I feel like that because the insecurity only comes out with males. Because I speak to females in the same way. And it's usually about my business as I do with males. it's just with males she always has a problem and i'm like it makes me feel like okay you're like immaturely dating you don't know how to date but i'm like i don't know like can you have friends the charlotte man that his wife has you know your circumstances are totally different now i have to ask you a question did you get penis before you became a lesbian good question did you like penis yes yes that's what it is well that might be the problem she might be going back to penis she don't want you to relax but what does that have to do with me that's her insecurity
Starting point is 00:05:33 like is that something that i'm supposed to adjust it is but i will say this i will say try to have a conversation and bring her in on part of the conversation you ask if if my wife has male friends uh we have friends. She doesn't have friends that I don't know about. She doesn't have friends that she speaks to that I don't know. We all have friends. Just like I have female friends, but my wife knows them. But if he's bi, though.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm not bi. Shut up, man. I'm not about to play with you. You're trying to be serious. But I will give her a conversation to try to make her feel comfortable as possible. Obviously, she feels a little uncomfortable because she feels like you're going to get back to the penis. But let her know that you don't want any penis and it's all boxed for you. Period.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Okay. All right. And go box her mouth. Yo, shut up, man. And go box her mouth. Go sit on her face. Yo, shut up. You were real light-skinned for saying that, though.
Starting point is 00:06:23 What's wrong with you, man? You heard what she said? She said you was very light-skinned for saying that. I concur. Oh, shut up. You was real light-skinned for saying that, though. What's wrong with you, man? You heard what she said? She said you was very light-skinned for saying that. I concur. Oh, my goodness. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? It's Al.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Al, you sound a little off on the phone. You got Bluetooth in or your headpiece? Can you hear me? I can hear you perfectly. What up, Al? All right, what's up, man? I'm calling to get off my chest. Yeah, no, me and my girl, we finally, I'm feeling good today.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Me and my girl, we off a seven-month dry spell, man. Like, you know, so we finally have, you know, intercourse again, and I feel good about it. Seven months? Why so long? Huh? I said, why so long? I kind of, you know, I kind of messed up, you know. I was...
Starting point is 00:07:04 Cheating. I was messing up a little bit. Cheating. Not cheating. You know, not physically cheating. Probably emotionally cheating. So, yeah, she finally, you know. So it was a while she wasn't, you know, killing me. You know, y'all do know humans, women especially, are more emotional than physical. So emotionally cheating and emotionally hurting her can probably cause her to dry up more so than physically.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? What are you talking about? I realize that. Yes. I'm glad y'all are back, brother. Yeah, thank you, man. Have a good one.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You too, champ. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest wait wake up whether you're mad or blessed it's time to get up and get something call up now 800-585-1051 we want to hear from you on the breakfast club hello who's this hey good morning good morning how you doing this is ronnie called out of baton rouge louisiana, Ronnie? Get it off your chest. Man, I just wanted to call in, man, because I'm so excited for you guys. Man, I love hearing y'all on the radio.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Man, y'all been doing a great job, man. Y'all sound really, really renewed, man, this time around. So it's great to have you guys here in Baton Rouge. Man, I'm in here burning my Palo Santo right now. The energy is great. I got my candles lit. Me and Envy just being here, living our best lives, man. We just enjoy having a good time.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Man, that's what's up. And that is a great compliment because we thoroughly do enjoy coming in this studio every day. Hell, man. We enjoy hearing you guys, man. And that has not always been the case, but now it is. Shut up, man. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Hey, what's up guys this is your favorite white listener Tim from Toledo Tim from Toledo what's up brother get it off your chest what's going on guys
Starting point is 00:08:52 I love you guys man we love you back so I've been on a theme the last couple times I've gotten through about toxic people and lately
Starting point is 00:09:01 it's been I find it's more family usually than it is than anybody. And so I find I'm 45 and I think a lot of people can relate throughout your life. We, you know, we may need to lean on people for help and it might be in a rough time. It might be a house payment. It might be, they order you a pizza when you down on your luck. And then you find out these people get mad at you. You know, it could be six months down the road,
Starting point is 00:09:26 two years down the road, you know, they're on your Facebook because they're mad, and you find out that you owe them a million dollars all of a sudden. Or they didn't order you a pizza, you know, they act like they be buying food for like the last three years,
Starting point is 00:09:40 you know, the story just gets completely blown out of context because they're mad well that's why that's why sometimes you just got to give people thoughts and prayers absolutely you know what and i tried to you know what i just gonna put this real quick i put this on my bio i started a new facebook and i'm adding friends that i would try to go to their funeral or if they would come to mine because otherwise it's just disgraceful people got 2 000 friends and they don't even know half of them i put this in my bio when i need help give me a hug not money that way when you're mad
Starting point is 00:10:10 all i owe you is a hug but i will i will say this you know in life and i think charlamagne and i think even you can will say this it's always highs and lows right you always have a good part of your life where everything is going great but it could be a left turn and sometimes you need help and it doesn't have to be financial it could be just a good you know a hug or a good a hold or a good conversation and those are the people i keep around me and whether they family or friends it's all the same if you can't provide me that and i can't provide you that then we don't need to be around each other but i want to be around people that's gonna hold hold each other up and make sure we all all right i think the biggest problem i think the biggest problem is that you
Starting point is 00:10:44 know your family and you know and your close friends be having a sense of entitlement that's true you know what i'm saying and when they want when they want more they act like you never did anything for them you know what i'm saying so it could be a pizza uh you know uh our money when they want more anything you ever did will never be enough they'll act like you never did anything correct you know and i can, I don't deal with entitled people. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:11:23 There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country?
Starting point is 00:11:39 My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help. We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams.
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Starting point is 00:13:07 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
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Starting point is 00:16:27 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jess Hilarious was our guest host. Ladies and gentlemen, Stephanieie mills good morning miss mills good morning good morning eyes i'm fine don't you think he has bambi beautiful eyes beautiful that's my baby yeah he is i love stephanie mills she know that we have a love affair he's my he's like my son. He could be my son. That's right. Literally. Son.
Starting point is 00:17:09 So relax on her, okay? You got a lot going on, Ms. Mills. You got the PBS special. I have a lot going on. Black Broadway. Black Broadway. The movie Pride. The movie Pride. Executive produced T.D. Jakes.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Bishop T.D. Jakes. And Derek Williams. And they just offered me the part. Derek called me and said, do you want to do this role? And sent me the script. And I said, yes. And you're touring? I'm touring.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Wow. And I'm getting ready. There's a possibility I'm getting ready to come back to Broadway to do my own show. What? Based on your life? No, I don't want to do anything based on my life. But just songs and where I've come from and all of that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Wow. How are you managing everything that you're doing at the moment I have a great manager I call amp yum-yum he's just he's a yummy manager you know how when you find somebody that just you can trust and believes in you yeah absolutely so pretty thank you so much so how does it feel to still be so legendary like 40 years later? Relevant. Like relevant, but relevant isn't even a word. It's like just still like people still walking around singing your songs. He can't sing, but he was literally walking around still singing your songs. Before you even said, yeah, I'll come up there with y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:22 He was still walking around singing. How does that feel? It's a blessing. I feel really blessed because I didn't have the machinery behind me. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So for me to still be here doing it, and I'm doing it on my own terms because I kind of backed away from the industry because it became too much. For me to still do it and then find someone like Amp who believed in me
Starting point is 00:18:46 and allows me to be who I am. Because, you know, in this business, they try to change you to meet a certain criteria. And I never fit into that criteria and didn't want to. And I love that. I love that. And so for the Rolling Stones magazine. Greatest 200 Singers of All Time. Yeah, the Greatest 200 Singers of All Time.
Starting point is 00:19:04 How do you feel being left out of that? I don't feel anything. Jones magazine greatest 200 singers of all time yeah the greatest 200 singers of all time how did how do you feel being left out of that I don't feel anything I don't pay any attention to that that's somebody behind a desk who doesn't really know what they're talking about how could you leave Celine Dion off or how could you she's a great you know how could you yeah so I don't pay attention to that I don't pay attention to awards and all that even though I have Awards of everything that of musically but it doesn't mean anything What means matters to me and which has kept me with my sold-out shows that I'm proud of Is my people coming to see me and paying their hard-earned money? That's what keeps me going Yeah, I knew it with the Rolling Stone clearly those people are culturally clueless
Starting point is 00:19:43 Oh, I mean they you. The Rolling Stones, clearly those people are culturally clueless. You know what I mean? They're leaving people like you, Celine Dion. But see, I was never played on VH1 or MTV. None of my videos because they always said I was too urban. And I only had a pop record with Never Knew Love. That's the only one they allowed to cross over. I wonder, you said something earlier. You said that you never had the machine behind you. And it's interesting because you can see how that might still impact you now when it comes to these lists right exactly when you think
Starting point is 00:20:08 about it like back in the day when mtv i want my mtv and they didn't want to play michael you know it was the president of the company that said if you don't play him i'm going to expose that you're racist and i don't think really anything has changed i think you have to have and back then i didn't have that kind of person that would go on the front line for me right but michael did and i'm glad he did because just imagine you not hearing thriller the way it was or being exposed to all those wonderful videos that he did and they didn't acknowledge his 40th anniversary of thriller anything at the grammys or american music award how did they pick and choose who got the machine back then, though? Because I feel like back then, you really needed talent to get a deal.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You really needed talent to get a deal. That's why my audience is predominantly black, because BET and all those black outlets played my videos, and black radio supported me so much. So that's why I'm able to survive that's why i don't understand why a lot of black artists like don't go back to the black publications and things like that that made them you know because i well i know they think white ice is cold always why i have no idea i don't understand that i never understand why they think vanilla ice cream is
Starting point is 00:21:24 colder than chocolate. I think it's because they want that mass look. You know what I mean? But you can have that. Let me tell you something. I went to, oh, what's the girls group? They came to Charlotte and they sold out the arena. There was nothing there but black people.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Escape. Yes. So what's wrong with the black dollar? I definitely get what you're saying My generation, they also feel like, cause I don't although I'm a part of them they feel that's some type of advanced validation when you get
Starting point is 00:21:55 like, they call it the crossover and people I did a show for Fox, sitcom on Fox Rel Yep, shout out to the show, Rel and I was on it with Sinbad. He played Rel's dad
Starting point is 00:22:07 and it was amazing. I love him too. Like the show, people was telling me because people was only used to seeing me on like Wildin' Out and all that type of stuff,
Starting point is 00:22:15 you know, more production with black people and then they were like, oh, that's your crossover. Fox is your crossover. It's like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 you really made it now. I really made it now i really made it because i'm on fox you know working around all these white people no i been made it and then still i still ain't making that's that sitcom wasn't like the cream of the crop for me yet i'm still not where i want to be in terms of you know just where i'm going right right but i didn't consider that as my crossover that That's another show that I'm on. That's another stepping stone. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So I get exactly what you're saying. And that's what we think. We think when we cross over to that pop, we've made it. Why do we want to be so accepted? And I never really wanted, I just wanted to be accepted. I wasn't good at smooching. You know I wasn't, Charlamagne. I wasn't good at doing that. And I didn't want to go to the parties and
Starting point is 00:23:08 have to meet this one and I didn't like auditioning. Yeah, I know that's funny. Do you like it? No. I know. They look at you like you're crazy. But they make it so hard for you. I won't do it. Or they'll act like it. Alright, we got more with Stephanie Mills when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:23:24 The Breakfast Club. Let's get back't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Let's get back into it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I got a question about Michael, too, because I want to know. I will answer. Okay, good. So is it true that you and Michael went on a date?
Starting point is 00:23:38 I called it dating. How was that? It was wonderful. Michael was gentle. He was kind, very determined determined knew where he wanted to go and we just had fun yeah he used to come to the whiz all the time so was he a smooth criminal he was a smooth criminal couldn't wait to say that all right cool i loved him that afro and chocolate yeah so why
Starting point is 00:24:05 did he change all that i think that's what people get michael misconstrued and you know they'll they'll label michael tom as an uncle tom or you know a coon because of that i gotta be strategic because that's my baby but um michael wanted to be the king of pop he had a fetish with elvis presley and he had his eyes on lisa presley when she was very young okay i think he always knew he wanted to because he felt like that was the epitome yeah you know and i think he really wanted to be king but then when he got over there they showed him that you still. Still a nigga. Yeah, yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And it broke his heart. Yeah. Did y'all have a relationship even up until his passing? No. He was too different. Yeah. I couldn't relate to that, Michael. It had gone too far, but I think he knew that it had gone too far.
Starting point is 00:24:59 But what can you do? Right. You can't go back. At this point, yeah. You can't go back. Because we went to the opening of the Atlantis and he asked me to come he asked to see me and I didn't go because I was rehearsing and I often wondered what he wanted what he wanted to tell me he probably wanted to tell me something or yeah you know but it had gone too far and I I couldn't relate. And Michael was taught the moonwalk by my ex-husband, Jeffrey Daniel.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I went to those rehearsals. I know everybody claimed that they did not. Jeffrey Daniel taught Michael the moonwalk and all those things. But the Motown people, they don't always give people credit. They're taught not to give people credit. I love giving people credit for what they do for me because you can't do this by yourself but um you know michael never gave him credit and he should have it's just interesting to me how you know i always wonder like what can make
Starting point is 00:25:56 a person like totally lose their blackness and have you seen somebody lose their blackness or fall out with black people and find a way to get back with the community? Because it feels like once you once you turn your back on us, we turn our back on you forever. Yeah. But look at it. You know, I can remember a time. People are not going to like this either. But I can remember a time when Michael would be at the awards and you would have to get in a line to see him.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I never did that. I'm not getting in a line to see nobody ain't nobody that important nobody's more important than god and i think there's no one that's on you know like some people say well how can you say something about oprah or something about gail aren't you afraid i fear god and you know that that's right you know that chalamet that's right i only fear your god i don't feel a backlash. I mean, I'm 66 years old. What are they going to do? What are they going to do to you?
Starting point is 00:26:47 You know what I'm saying? Like what? Yeah. But I think. And nobody's above critique. Like. Nobody. I don't care who you are and how much money you have.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Because you could lose that. Look at Harvey Weinstein. I remember a certain person calling him God. I, you know, Charlie Rose. Who would have thought you know Matt Lauer arrogant yeah but I just don't think that anybody's under approach but I do think Michael knew he went too far and you got to remember towards the end of his career he went to Jesse Jackson and and Al Sharpton and he
Starting point is 00:27:22 even wanted to give pops his catalog and Farrakhan, his catalog, and Pops wouldn't. That ride can be vicious, as we see with other people that are white, dealing with it, Britney Spears, and I go back to them because I really see how the business has tormented them and the people around them. The movie Pride, Seven Deadly Sins story. It's going gonna be on lifetime yes with with uh nephew tommy who did a brilliant job he plays my son gabe and kenya king who's a
Starting point is 00:27:54 canadian actress and erica campbell came in to uh play pastor trey this is your first feature my first feature that's crazy my first so since Broadway and everything else, nobody's decided Stephanie Miller should be acting? They wouldn't give me a job. Damn. They wouldn't. Do you want to do more? Oh, yes. I got the bug now.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But I'm not auditioning. You're not? No. No auditioning. Tell them, Jess. She's not auditioning, so don't ask her. What roles would you want to play? Mothers.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I mean, I could play a mother, you know, an older sister. But mothers, I want to do a Christmas. Yes, being a therapist. Or I want to play somebody really tough and, like, gangster. I could see that, too. I could see that, too. Now. And today, see your size.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Who are you going to be playing? Kevin Hart? Who are you going to be playing? I would love to do a movie with Kevin Hart he's so funny he's shorter than you when does the movie Lifetime
Starting point is 00:28:49 Lifetime movie April 8th April 8th and then Black to Broadway is February 28th 28th yes well Stephanie Mills
Starting point is 00:28:57 it's always a pleasure sitting down to build with you and talk to you and I just love seeing you all the time I love seeing you two Bambi eyes yes ma'am
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Starting point is 00:29:22 with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host, Jess Hilarious here. What's good? And if you're just joining us, we were talking about Jess and her baby daddy, Rome, and their relationship. A lot of people called up this morning.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Actually, two people called up and said they had bad relations with their baby daddy. Said they don't help out. They don't pay any money. And it's just not good. And I've never seen a co-parenting relationship the way Jess and Arome have. Like, they got the coolest co-parenting relationship. They got a show that they do on YouTube. What's the name of the show?
Starting point is 00:29:56 YouTube. It's called Co-Parenting Therapy. We are in the second season. But the first season is just as good as the second one. And the second one, we're sitting down with couples trying to help them create healthy boundaries and healthy environments for their kids so they can co-parent. Now, the only thing I found odd about their relationship is that Rome. Is Rome on the phone?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, Rome's on the phone. Rome. Rome, good morning. Rome. Good morning. Good morning. Peace, King. Now, Rome, I overheard Jess talking yesterday, and she was saying how you call her sis.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. Now, you call her sis. Yeah. Now, you done shot her club up. Y'all got a whole 10-year-old. First of all, my son is 11. He's 11. Yeah, my son is 11. Why do you call her sis? Because the situation is different now.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And we built to that point. But it's like, I look at her and it's really like a sister, a family member be said is, take the kid away man I don't It's just different It's hard to explain Some people call it weird But I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:52 It's no more sexual It's just That's my sister That's my love I don't kill somebody From her But I ain't shooting The club up again
Starting point is 00:30:59 I think y'all soulmates wrong Yeah But you know That's pretty how it is No sexual Yeah that's what it is. You know, I'm... But how did y'all get to that point, though?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Because most people don't get to that point. How did y'all get to that point where you guys are damn near best friends, y'all focus on your future, your life, the business, the baby, the family, but y'all can still do y'all thing? Rome has been through a lot of things, and he don't really have a lot of family to rely on. He don't really have a lot of friends to rely on. And through the years, he'll have friends.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Then he don't, then he don't like to open up and he's never felt like he was in a safe space. And if you got to provide like a safe space for a man to even open up and become vulnerable, because that's not what they do, especially men, they don't, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and, and I was the first female that just didn't run from his whole story um didn't judge him always helped them now he has a best friend and she you know they cool but like it's a little bit more hands-on with me like and after all the feelings and getting past them he we became friends on that you know I was like a therapist for him or whatever and he just saying for well he don't really do nothing for me in that aspect my bad you know you don't but um don't disrespect big room like no i'm saying no yeah that is big wrong that is big
Starting point is 00:32:15 what's up what to elaborate on that you take out all the emotions and the feelings yeah and you can be great. But one of the biggest problems we did have that we were able to overcome as well was Jessica did overstep boundaries a little bit in relationships. What you mean? She'll run up on
Starting point is 00:32:38 girls you were dating with? Messing with? No. That's the same thing. She would want to be in it too much. And then it used to make me mad because I was saying, I'm out of my business when it comes to you. So even when she realized that and took that away, it became even better.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Ah, so you're trying to holler at a chick and she's telling you, nah, I don't like shorty, shorty this, shorty that. She diving into your relationship. Make up your mind, Jess. No, no, no, no, no. Not even necessarily that. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Let me tell them what it is, Rome, because you're talking a little slow. You just woke up, obviously. Look, this is the thing. Rome will be in a relationship. And then Rome will introduce me to these girls. Rome will want me to build a nice, little, cool relationship with them. And then when things start happening, because he's not able to be faithful or loyal or whatever then damn wrong it's yeah then it's they they then i got and then they break up with him and now when he beefing with him i gotta beef with him and it's like nah
Starting point is 00:33:35 but now is i'm out of your business but you call me you put me in the business but don't be in the business too damn much don't be saying like i'll be giving a damn that much i just give a damn about you like i you be introducing me that's much. I'd just give a damn about you. You'd be introducing me. That's how I end up cool with all the baby mothers. And they cool and I love his kids. And even girls that he didn't have babies with. A lot of them were cool.
Starting point is 00:33:56 But then he moved. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Here it is. What happened to shorty? Don't worry about it. You move on with me. I don't know what you're doing. Yup. That's what it is. I don't know what you're doing. See, that's exactly how it's going to be. That's what it is. Okay. I want to know
Starting point is 00:34:08 how many more relationships are out there like Jess and Rome. Like, how many people got baby daddy brothers? Right. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what you got. You got a baby daddy brother,
Starting point is 00:34:15 you know what I mean, and you got a baby mama sister. But it takes a lot and you got to commit it. I think it's a lot. I just think it's not the norm and people are afraid to put it to the world
Starting point is 00:34:26 because of being judged. We're not the first person to do this. I know that for a fact. I've never seen it. I think it's dope. I've just never seen it evolve, go from a baby mama to, oh, that's my sister.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And y'all really hold each other down like that. I think that's so interesting. But let's take some calls. We'll say, Ro, we appreciate you. I know we just woke you up. We appreciate you for checking in, brother. Appreciate y'all really hold each other down like that. I think that's so interesting. But let's take some calls. Let's take... Rome, we appreciate you. I know we just woke you up. We appreciate you for checking in, brother. Appreciate y'all, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Love you, shorty. And Rome, you're a great father, man. You're a great father. I love the way you hold it down for your son, man. Absolutely. I appreciate that, man. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Y'all have a good day. You too, now, bro. Hello, who's this? This is Jasmine. Hey, Jasmine. Good morning. Morning. You got a baby daddy, y'all?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I have a baby daddy, but it is not peaceful. Co-parenting is not easy, and we spent 13 years together. And I felt like yesterday listening to just six people's message, I thought about, you know, I think their relationship is so commendable. They co-parent so gracefully, and, you know, I think their relationship is so commendable. They co-parent so gracefully. And, you know, they're funny together. They make it a good time. They make it look like a good time.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Thank you. I agree. So I'm like, how is that even possible? Reposado. It just literally, shut up. It just literally takes time. It really does. And, you know, it depends on how y'all both feel about each other.
Starting point is 00:35:47 You know, y'all still, there's one half feelings for the other one. No. Okay, you said that very strongly. Very strongly. But you said it so strongly that you don't even want to be his friend. No, you couldn't pay me to sleep rainwater, girl. Okay. I can ask for three for the butter knife.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Well, do you even like him at all? No. Okay, so you don't even want to be his sister. So the friend is not going to work then if you don't even like him at all? No. Okay, so you don't even want to be his sister. It's not going to work then if you don't even like him at all. But because I know the bigger issue is the bigger picture is my children. So I know how to put my bygones to the side. Right. But it's just like he don't think.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Right. Okay. All right. But are you still hurt about anything? Is that what's stopping you? Well, I will say this. I am very betrayed. Okay. I was very betrayed from the beginning. So that
Starting point is 00:36:28 is hard for me to let go. Definitely. Okay, so she's still heard about it. I don't think you can be friends unless you let that go because you'll always have that over-y'all relationship even if y'all just become friends. So I think that's where it has to go. And we know. And we know about having a baby daddy. It was a lot of things. What the hell? You're my
Starting point is 00:36:44 only baby daddy. What you talking about? What's going on here? lot of things what the hell you you my only baby daddy what you talking about going on here hold on all right i'm sorry she wants just to fix the mess yes i need just to fix the mess i need her to like you know i want i need her yeah i that but that's what it literally takes though it you just have to get past your hurt because a lot of things rome did to me i had to let go um i didn't just put them to the side you know it because a lot of things Rome did to me I had to let go I didn't just put him to the side you know it's a big difference between putting it to the side and really getting past it it was things man he had ran into a lump sum of money I was broke lights off everything me and my son and we had the we had candles I had a car I had to go in the car to get air all of that and he knew all of this but I couldn't hold that over his head I didn't have time to hate him because he was so young, never had no money.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So when he got it, he just did whatever he wanted to do with it. You feel me? And he was young. So he never tossed y'all nothing? No, he never. Nope. He never tossed me anything. So how do you see it?
Starting point is 00:37:38 I thought this was going to be a good story. I thought he came up with some money and helped you out. Oh, no. Hell no. To this day, no. So how do you stay from being disgruntled? Damn. How did you not get? I didn't have time to you out? Oh, no. Hell no. To this day, no. So how do you stay from being disgruntled? Damn. How did you not get...
Starting point is 00:37:45 I didn't have time to hate him. Yo, listen. I was trying to figure out the next game, the next way to get some money, the way to get my lights on. Yeah. Like, he ain't never had no bread like that. And so when he came into it, he just, you know, he... What you ain't wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And I know that. What I'm getting from your situation and hearing these calls is you never stopped liking him as a person, like as a friend. You know what I mean? These people grew to hate their baby daddy. I think once you grow to hate your baby daddy, it's hard to come back from that. Yeah, I never hated him. What's the moral of the story? I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Just drunks. You don't know. Yo, I'm not drunk no more. Stop being drunk at 4 o'clock this morning. Look, the moral of the story, I don't really know look the moral of the story i don't really know what the moral of the story is it ain't no story it's just you know you you just you have to learn how to move forward amicably amicably yeah i'm still drunk all right yeah you have to learn you gotta learn how to move forward amicably yes with the with the other parent yo you gotta take
Starting point is 00:38:44 all them feelings out of there if If y'all want to be like me and Rome, you got to take out all those feelings and you can't hold on to hurt. Like Charlemagne said, I never got to the point where I wanted to hate him. Yo, I was going to hate him. My life's still going to be off. I ain't got time for that. And I never stopped him
Starting point is 00:39:00 from saying his son, not ever. Look, please come get him, but bring him back. You know what I mean? Like never. It's never been no malicious intent no nothing i never took him downtown and i should have you know i felt like i should have back then like now but i just didn't want to do that i was like that girl who called up earlier it was gonna be a struggle for him too i feel like it was rooted in respect and so it grew into what it is now i feel like a lot of these relationships aren't rooted in respect you You know what I mean? Nope. Well, that's good. Salute to everybody out there with a baby daddy brother and a baby mama
Starting point is 00:39:30 sister. People that figured it out. I love my Romeo. I love my... That's your soulmate, but you keep playing. That ain't no soulmate. Well, your soulmate ain't gotta be somebody that you with. You can't have a best friend as a soulmate. You can't have... I'm telling you, it's your soul. It ain't got nothing to do with intimacy. The Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 00:45:05 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess club jess hilarious is here our guest co-host and we got a special guest in the building jocelyn hernandez welcome thank you thank you and you're in town i didn't even know that you are uh doing your jocelyn's cabaret in new york i am i cannot believe you didn't come see me yet it's so much fun dj envy so yeah so break down what the cabaret is because you know starless is a strip club it's a gentleman club it is a strip club shout out to
Starting point is 00:45:48 starless and marty and everybody so okay so the cabaret you know the cabaret i'm on my fourth season congratulations yes four seasons girl that's a lot that is a lot and i own this show i own the ip my intellectual property i wrote it i. I wrote the cabaret. I created it. I produce it. I do everything about it. I act in it. So basically, it's like a group of ladies. They compete to be inside of my cabaret.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Actually, last performance, which was Saturday, I had 12 ladies dance with me on stage. Some of them put theirself on fire, shoes on fire. Jesus Christ. They skate on stage. So it's like a whole show that this girl's actually moving to the house they compete it's like it's like uh it's like uh tyra banks with her show with the modeling show except that they are they're dancing they're not modeling you know they set themselves on fire on the pole on the pole they choose they they kitty cat everything be on fire the kitty cat be on fire the kitty cat be on fire dj envy that's what i'm trying to tell you you're not talking
Starting point is 00:46:43 you're talking about flames no not that type of like you know messed up fire i'm talking about The kitty cat beat on fire. DJ Envy, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You're not talking herpes or chlamydia. You're talking about flames. No, not that type of messed up fire. I'm talking about fun fire. Like a real show. Definitely this season, the ladies stepped their game up. Season one, season two, season three of the cabaret. It was great.
Starting point is 00:47:00 We built to it. The first season, I was trying to get the ladies to understand my vision. I want to do a cabaret with my music. I want some dancers and since i'm a musician i want to do it on tv i want the girls to dance i want to i want to make it make sense i want to make it make one some of the girls didn't believe season two we did it one of them won ten thousand dollars we performed atlanta we did the whole choreography to one of my songs yeah so that was great season three i went on tour to 12 different cities It was a lot It was quick It was fast So we really didn't have An actual show
Starting point is 00:47:27 But the people loved it You know they can They seen the girls Getting on stage Doing their thing Doing their pose But now season 4 It's more organized
Starting point is 00:47:34 We got a routine We got a whole show It's a 30 minute show I think I'm performing Like 8 songs For 30 minutes And you know Then I do my meet and greet
Starting point is 00:47:42 My last tour I would just go And just keep performing But now I have to Preserve myself I have to film And I'm actually Also filming season 4
Starting point is 00:47:50 The Cabaret That will be airing Next one on Suze Network You think people Don't take you serious Because of the love and hip hop Because of the college hill
Starting point is 00:47:58 Because of the cabaret Like they don't take you As serious as you feel Like they should I feel like they Take me super serious I always have So a lot of shows.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I have my only, my fans that are personally fans of Jocelyn, that if you go on my Instagram or my Twitter or any of the hashtags of the cabaret, they sing my songs word for word. Word for word. I do shows sometimes with 1,500 people, 2,500 people, 100 people, 300 people, 500 people. It's different cities different shows different locations and every city you go to they sing my songs every song not just birthday song not just Vegas I want to ride but every
Starting point is 00:48:34 night of the week get Rico finger check I slay every song they I brought me my money every song that I have and I have you know I've never put out an album but I put out singles like all the time and so i definitely feel like people has taken me seriously do i feel like it took them a long time yes yeah but do i feel who am i to be before anyone else i just have to keep working if i believe in myself i have to just keep pushing i love that i see a lot of different things for you it's like why the hell you won't get into like pro wrestling why why what what was happening like why you won't go into pro wrestling you are too funny what is wrong with you i'm sorry she's slapping security he's supposed to protect you she's slapping this
Starting point is 00:49:16 man quick enough wow so i tell you what i tell you what i'm not really uh you know you know i just got out of jail yes you know i just got out of jail. Yes. You know, I just got out of jail. So it's really not too much that I could talk on that. But I will, you know, because you know, you know, I was gone,
Starting point is 00:49:30 girl. I was in Lauderdale, Broward County. I was cold, came out with a coughing, everything. Girl, I thought I was going to die.
Starting point is 00:49:36 They left me here for two days and I'm sitting up here sick as a dog. Why me? Why me? So I can't really speak too much on that. But what I can say is that I'm gonna always protect yes how do you say it protect
Starting point is 00:49:49 yes me right and if you see me I hear in the streets when you know you too and in the world America whoever knows me know where I come from and what I've done and how I've changed you know I'm just making sure that I'm straight and no one hurts me you know so you know the media just making sure that I'm straight and no one hurts me. So you know the media only show you one thing. It looks like a whole lot of chaos, but you might not know
Starting point is 00:50:10 what happened prior to that chaos. Like five seconds before or ten seconds before. You just see like the rah-rah. And because it's me, it's always so much bigger than what it actually is. Yeah, and that's another big point too.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So it's like even, to keep going back to it, you know Love & Hip Hop, they had you. I know that it was a lot of tension with Shua Mona because it's like she always wanted to portray you in that light. You know what I'm saying? Do you ever feel any way about that? Like how you would be for Mona about it.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And you go over to Lola Mel. He got you, you know, looking the same way when you're so many other things and just fighter. Well, I say this. I would say this shout out shout out to mona and shout out to let me yeah they both gave me amazing opportunities and i will also say i'm a grown person right the way i run my cabaret as far as like being on on soos network because when i did love on hip-hop i was like you know i was younger i was wild i was out there so it's only but so much that a network could do for yourself to help you or break you.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You still have to accept responsibilities as a human being, for yourself. So with that, that was what it was. And if it wasn't for Love & Hip Hop, let's just be real, I would not be here with the cabaret. And then with the cabaret, listen, that's just how I run my show. I run my to do what I tell them to do. If you can't, you can't be in the cabaret like listen that's just how i run my show you know i'm saying like i run my to do what i tell them to do if you can't you can't be in the cabaret you know when you see me on suze would let me on the cabaret i i just think that you see so much more of of me running a business instead of seeing like the personal jocelyn like the personal jocelyn is different than the jocelyn that's actually running a business so i might look like i'm raw raw like i'm being putting this one
Starting point is 00:51:44 life but you got to remember, you're only seeing like really just 20, 30% of my life. Right. Because even though I got cameras out for 46 weeks, like I do right now filming Jocelyn's Cabaret Season 4,
Starting point is 00:51:54 it's still not every single day. Not every part of you. You don't see when I'm crying. You don't see when I'm taking care of my daughter. You don't see when I'm, you know, working out, doing yoga every day. I've been in New York
Starting point is 00:52:03 and I've been doing yoga every day with my husband. But you know, you could, I was going to say, but you know, the fact that it's I'm, you know, working out, doing yoga every day. I've been in New York and I've been doing yoga every day with my husband. But you know, you could, I was going to say, but you know, the fact that it's your show, you can display what you want to display now. You can put that out there. You just ain't got to put the cabaret part. You could put that out too. And I was going to ask, you shouted out, you know, Mona Scott.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I know one time you were saying some that, you and Mona go back and forth. But the fact that y'all shouted out, have y'all spoke? Have y'all squashed that beef at that time? Or you just let it go? You know what? I haven't talked to her, but it's just like you come to a place where you grow up. I don't got to keep being mad at Mono, being mad at anybody for nothing. Like, well, how does that help me?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Right. How does that give me any blessings? Right. How does that make God open the door for me to get like keep opening up my third eye so I can keep pursuing my dreams and my career? How could I help young ladies in the world? You know that ain't all you know my my biggest goal to be in life I grew up in in I always say this I grew up in in Puerto Rico I grew up in Carolina in Las Esmeraldas in El Caserio I grew up in the ghetto in the hood in the trenches and I used to be running around without no shoes and have needles, heroin needles on my feet.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I had to come home. I had to pull him out. My dad used to be a crack and a heroin addict. So I come from nothing. Right. My dad died when I was very young. And for me, my most important thing is to showcase to the little girls that they could do it. If I did it, you could do it, too.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like, that's always going to be my end goal. Yeah, for sure. Because I have a daughter. And it's rooted deep in my heart Yeah I want to always have be that voice of reasoning to the young girls because they know I was a mess when I first came Out but look where I come from look what they were what cars was given to me for me to play so you got to Remember I come from a really low income family when I tell you low income. I mean like food stamps low income
Starting point is 00:53:41 You feel me? Yeah, and so for me now It's like all I want to do is really just do my job do what I love to do Music TV help the little girls take care of Bonnie have another child with my husband. Yes. I'm an artist. Yes I do messed up things. Yes. I'm out there. You might see something. Oh, she crazy I'm not crazy You know I'm not gonna ever do anything that truly in my heart Don't feel like I need to do and i'm gonna take the consequences afterwards all right we got more with jocelyn hernandez when we come back don't
Starting point is 00:54:09 move it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with jocelyn hernandez jess hilarious is here charlamagne is out for a couple of days do you turn up for the cameras the reason i say that is is absolutely because when people talk about jocelyn i'm like i've been on flights with jocelyn we like and she's been the coolest calmest how's your family how's your wife doing so then when i turn on the tv i'm like that's not the person i just flew it with three hours i'm like that's not the same person so so so you you make it your business to to entertain Can I tell you something? You could ask my family. You could ask my best friend, Melissa, which is my manager, and my husband, Melissa. I am a trip.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I wake up in the morning tripping. I'm tripping. I'm high off life. I'm recently clean. And when I say clean, listen, let me tell you something. I'm grown. I can do whatever I want. I got my stuff together.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I ain't never been in the streets. Y'all ain't never heard that I owe nobody money. You ain't never heard that I'm broke. You ain't never heard that i owe nobody money you ain't never heard that i'm broke you ain't never heard that i ain't getting no money you ain't never heard that i'm a junkie outside shooting up no did i like to party absolutely still love to but i know that i have to focus and i have to be as clean as i can to be the best that i can be right but you could ask this too i don't have to have nothing in my system i wake up with the bullshit just like a funny person. People always be like, you should be a comedian.
Starting point is 00:55:26 No, I'm funny because I don't want to be a comedian. I'm funny because that's just who I am as a person. So like, I do turn up for the cameras, but Envy, I'm a funny ass b****
Starting point is 00:55:35 no matter what. Like, I wake up funny. I just like to have fun. I like to have fun. I think, and I'm very, and you got to remember when I'm working and filming,
Starting point is 00:55:42 I have to be very strict. And the second I get not to be strict, I'm going to be funny. I'm going to be a bitch. I would be cracking jokes, everything. Now you said you're clean. Is it you're clean because you had your baby and you'd be like, I have to change or what? What's the side of you? Like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:55 I want to be clean. And what does clean mean? Well, you know, clean is not, you know, you know, not doing a one, two, not doing a one, two. I'm done. Not doing a one two i'm done not doing that one two yeah yeah did the baby make you want to say you know what i gotta change or what was it that made was it a scare or it wasn't like no no scare no scare no i i was being very cautious and i do everything very limited yeah you know because i'm i'm cute as i want to stay that way you know what i'm saying so i'm like i you know i'll be like you know when I hang out
Starting point is 00:56:25 With my b****es You know I'm like I'm more like a social party person You know what I mean And I don't hang out all the time But I feel so much stronger And so much better It's like
Starting point is 00:56:33 I feel like I don't need The crutches anymore To me the way I think about it It's like a crutch And I just feel like I'm finally walking without them And I don't need them And I feel stronger
Starting point is 00:56:42 I feel smarter I feel sharper Look I finished working last night two in the morning I went to sleep and I'm back up at seven o'clock
Starting point is 00:56:49 I told my manager I said I cannot believe I took a poop I brushed my teeth I drank some tea I drank some water I did some medicine
Starting point is 00:56:57 I did my hair and my makeup and got here I said that is not Johnson and Hernandez that's a change that's good that's evolution
Starting point is 00:57:06 that's evolution that's having a third eye open that's making sure that you don't abuse any drugs you don't abuse anything in your path that could potentially throw you off being the best you yeah i want to ask you know after the floyd fight we um we spoke about your relationship with your husband right and i want to ask you about that because what we said was and this is what i said on a i said you know so i look at my wife as not only as my wife my lover she's my sister she's my best friend so if she's swinging i'm swinging and then when we get home i gotta find out if she was right or wrong that's just how our relationship works right but how how is your relationship when it comes to those type of things because you are on tv and you are you know taped all the time and you are out and about so how is that relationship
Starting point is 00:57:47 with you and your man well shout out to ballistic he is the man of my dreams I love that man how she did a daydream but the relationship is this I'm gonna tell you like this if he swings on on a man I'm swinging if I swing he don't swing it's just that he always there in the moment by me making sure that don't nobody else but the person that is involved is not doing nothing charlamagne said he just gonna hold the other girl but no no no never never no he'll be like why the f**k is you here yeah he gonna be he gonna say why is you here now you know johnson don't want your ass here you know but my man uh is a very respectful man he's been around all the
Starting point is 00:58:31 ladies from the cabaret he's he's he's a trusted man and he's a real man he will not swing on the lady and he's never swung on no lady if he looks at the heat of the moment where he's might be screaming on their holding making sure that don that nobody else do anything to me. He gonna always do that as a man. Because that's what a man's supposed to do. You know, and he's so strong. He's got all that African power. If he swings on a lady, she's dead.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Look at that man. That man's six feet, seven tall, 200 and something pounds. He's a big old strong man. You know, so he know better than that. You know, he doesn't do it. Now, you know, without talking about the incident, but you performed that night. I performed. That was my first time performing at an arena.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Shout out to Lemmy for letting me do that. Because I asked Lemmy Lemuel from the owner of Suze Network. He put the fight together. And I was like, oh, my gosh, Lemmy, can I perform there? And he was like, sure. I was like, yeah. How was that performance? You had butterflies?
Starting point is 00:59:21 Because, I mean, you perform. I mean, you. I perform in my shows that people know my music, and they come to see me and pay to see me. I never performed in a place where they go... To see Floyd, and you got to try to run them over. I got you. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:59:36 So that was my first time. So I was nervous, but we've been practicing, because I'm also filming the camera right here in New York, so we've been dancing every day, and it went really good. And then, actually, the girls, I had just picked four dancers that I just met in New York to dance with me. So we learned that routine 24 hours prior. And you trusted them and not even...
Starting point is 00:59:55 I mean, I got to trust something. Right. If you're performing. If I wanted to go well, and it went well. Look, here's what I can say. When I did my first song, they were clapping. Right, right, right. I was like, I'm at the arena and they're clapping for me.
Starting point is 01:00:10 This is good stuff. These people don't know my music. These old people coming to see people fight. Old people don't be out there really just knowing what an underground artist like myself is really doing. Yeah, they might have heard my song, Do It Like It's You, or Be There. I want to write in their grandkids' house house or the children house but not like that but you don't know you don't know you could have you don't know some of them old people was probably leaving it they were like it's my meeting yeah you never know they were clapping i was like oh so many
Starting point is 01:00:39 things so i was i was excited about that i did like a three song set because i only had like seven minutes and 30 seconds. And I thought it was great. Now, were you drunk that night? Because people ask, were you drunk? I had, let me tell you something. I always love to say I wasn't drunk, but I would have one or two drinks.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And for some reason, and I think because I'm not chasing it with any drugs, it just hits me so much harder. Yeah. Because I remember when I used to be on my shit, I could drink 10 drinks. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:04 I could drink 10 drinks. But it's not what I'm saying? I could drink 10 drinks. But it's not like I tell my husband, oh my gosh, I got a headache. How many drinks you had? I only had like two drinks. I didn't necessarily
Starting point is 01:01:12 have a headache. It's like my brain just don't want to go back to where it used to be. It's called age. No, it's called age. It's called age. That's what it's called.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm young. I'm a bad bitch. What you talking about? It's called age. Bad bitch get old too. It's called age. All right, when we come back, we got more with Jocelyn Hernandez. This is The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Good morning. Morning, everybody. This is DJ and the Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Jocelyn Hernandez. Jess Solaris is here. Charlamagne's out for a couple of days. Jess?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Okay, so how is your co-parenting relationship with Stevie? How is that? How are y'all? I mean, you know, I don't really never talk to him. He talks to Bonnie on the phone and, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:49 he says, I have primary custody of Bonnie. I have physical custody of Bonnie and he's in her life. He's, you know, he has the right to see her whenever he wants to. So I think,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I think it's pretty cool. Yeah. I think it's good. And, you know, my husband being with Bonnie since she was six months and he's been taking care of her Because I mean my husband
Starting point is 01:02:06 With Bonnie was like Six to eight months Yeah She was like a little toddler Like a little baby Not even a toddler She was a baby Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:12 And so you know She loves my husband And you know She has a great relationship With her dad I'm sure she loves him too So I mean I think it's great
Starting point is 01:02:21 So she has two dads I mean I never put it that way Because she does I mean Yeah I never put it that way. Because she does. Yeah, I never put it that way. She has dads. That's the only time. That's two dads.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. Now, what made you do college hill? Did you want to go back to school? Was that one of your dreams? Can I tell you something? Yes. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And I told my husband, I'm like, damn, I got the opportunity to go back to school. I never went. First of all, I didn't even finish high school, y'all. I'm very smart, though. I got ownership of all. I got ownership of this big black put on'all. I'm very smart, though. I got ownership of all. I got ownership of this big black put over their ass. You gotta go get your GED first
Starting point is 01:02:48 before you go. But you skipped the GED when you went to college. Tell us that experience. So, well, first of all, it was a great experience because HBCU, a lot of people always,
Starting point is 01:02:56 see, this is something I need to clarify. Maybe I need to do it at the breakfast club with y'all, too. Because I've always considered myself a black woman.
Starting point is 01:03:03 But I was born in Puerto Rico and I speak Spanish. My first language is Spanish. But that doesn't take away from the fact when I walk in the building, people look at me and they say, that is a black woman, right? And so I always been cool and love to be a black woman. And they be like Afro-Latina. No, I don't have an Afro. I don't have an Afro.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I don't have an Afro. And I am a black woman that was born in the island of Puerto Rico that speaks Spanish. And I teach my daughter. You're going to confuse the shit out of somebody right now, but go ahead. But why? Because you're Puerto Rican. I am Puerto Rican. But back to the HBCU.
Starting point is 01:03:36 In the HBCU, you know what I learned? I learned that the Puerto Ricans, the people that were born in Puerto Rico that were black too. And back in those days, they were definitely Afro Latinos because they all used to wear, you know, the big, the big hair. But you know that the black African American and the Puerto Ricans, they were tight. You know, they, when they were trying to do everything with the freeing the Negro and stuff like that, that's the stuff that I learned at the HBCU in Alabama. You know, they were kind of telling us how the black Spanish and the black African-American came together and they were so much tighter than we actually are now
Starting point is 01:04:10 but me I consider myself same culture yeah I consider myself a black woman that was born in Puerto Rico yes I'm Latina because I'm Spanish of course I speak Spanish and I'm Latin but for me it's more than just saying that for me it's just that I'm proud to be black whether I'm Spanish or not and I just feel like a lot of people just have a problem with me being so proud to be black yeah what's wrong with me proud that I have this color yeah what's the problem and was that what kind of like ticks you off with Amber like cuz I kind of seen that it was like even like what happened because I don't know what to tell us what happened whatever I mean I didn't have the camera I wasn't in their class tell us what happened with Amber. I mean, I didn't have the camera. I wasn't in that class. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But you know, she was like telling her like, yo, like, you don't want to be black. You don't want to be black. I've seen. You told Amber she didn't want to be black. Yeah. So what happened? I've seen previous, you know, like it's been years.
Starting point is 01:04:57 It's not no damn secret. You know, Amber really, she, you know, she, she liked to dismiss the black side of it. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, she wasn't lying. I guess that's just a trigger. You know what I mean? Who wasn't lying? You.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I wasn't lying. I'm saying it was just a trigger. I wasn't lying. I wasn't lying because I wasn't lying. And, you know, I wasn't lying because we were talking about being black. Yeah. And I just had to let the f*** know, you don't want to be black. You came out of a big black f*** just like I did.
Starting point is 01:05:23 My mama got a big old black f***. She's a Puerto Rican woman, but that lady black. Yeah. out of a big black pussy just like I did. My mama got a big old black pussy. She's a Puerto Rican woman, but that lady black. And her mama was blacker than the table, my mama. So I come out of black pussy. You came out of a black pussy, but you don't want to say you're black. That's weird to me. That's so weird to me. I don't care what your color is.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I always thought she considered herself black until I really seen that she was a Karen when I got there. I was like, whoa. Whoa, whoa. It was just previously whoa whoa that was crazy to find out that she was a karen yeah what do you mean camera like she she did not respect black rights but like because i didn't see the show so i'm confused so i want you to tell me because i don't know you know what a karen is yeah i do well then that's what she is okay i'm telling you yo it's just and i'm not the only one that say that you can google. Yeah, so it come up It's just yeah, it was like it was you was just seeing it for the first time there But there are some first time to her like period like when she was getting upset about what I was saying
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah, joke. I was being ignorant in school. Sometimes you go to school you would you want to be a clown? It's like I was just talking. I was I mean, I'm the biggest I got up that day Yeah, I said I'm the biggest man. got up that day. I said, I'm the biggest, man. Then y'all got into a Philly and Miami scuffle. We got who? A little scuffle. Listen, that Joan is not from the part of Philly that you think she's from. Hey, yo, I'm doing her.
Starting point is 01:06:36 That Joan is not from. Jocelyn practiced that one. That Joan. No, I ain't practicing. That Joan. The only thing I practice is my bullet points that I'm supposed to speak on. I don't practice nothing else. Everything else is going to always be me, and you should know that.
Starting point is 01:06:50 That John. That John. You know her husband is from Philly, so you know I know a few words. Philly. Yeah. Now, I got to ask you, Big Lexi. Don't know that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I really want to know who she is. I didn't really know who she is. See, you don't know her. I don't know her. She don't know her. I wanted to know what the whole thing was about. i don't know her i wanted to know what you know we don't know her we don't know we don't know her i never knew we never knew her didn't know i didn't know i don't know i was just trying to figure out because i know i googled that seemed
Starting point is 01:07:14 like that night i googled and i seen and i was trying to figure out we don't know that i don't know so i was gonna ask love of hip-hop would you ever do it again it seems like the ratings absolutely i want to go do it i want to do it right now oh please i want to do it right now whoever's in charge of lemon hip i come holla at the princess i'ma come through and ballistic is cool going on there and having the family and everything i don't know axel i don't know please listen like look man i'm already this far in i'm gonna do that too i'm just gonna say they need some more ratings and i just i need her to go ahead on over there but which one should i go to the one in Miami or the one in Atlanta Miami okay she'll turn up anyone she goes because I live in Miami oh yeah please go to Miami you you gave you you don't owe nothing else to Atlanta you you
Starting point is 01:07:53 already put that franchise on the miz app I need you to do Miami I do it I do it honey why not are you making money off the mugshot they said that you were uh putting everybody get listen Jocelyn cabaret tour.com I should have brought y'all some and they said why you were uh put everybody get listen jocelyn's cabaret tour.com i should have brought y'all so i mean listen why and when why we bring jessica in there so you're selling mugshot merchandise i am and it's going to make it listen can you please go download that thing right there because you're gonna it's gonna look good i had on the louis vuitton briefcase with the louis vuitton shoes and the louis vuitton glasses the mugshot and and and the jean after oh i was flying look she is. It was a fashion show.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Oh, yeah, baby. I thought I was in Paris. You're killing it. Yeah, thank you, baby. So go get your t-shirts, yeah. Johnson and Scavareto.com. You can go get them. Well, Johnson,
Starting point is 01:08:33 we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much. Like I said, I see you all the time and you're so kind and so nice. Yeah. But I ain't gonna front. You might want to get in boxing.
Starting point is 01:08:43 After this is all over, you might just want to just, maybe even, you know, a couple of little... Can I truly tell you something? If I didn't, if I wasn't an artist and I didn't care about
Starting point is 01:08:52 breaking my face, I would do UFC. Oh, yeah. I love it. That's what I said. I would do UFC. I wouldn't box. I wouldn't do UFC,
Starting point is 01:08:57 but I can't. I tell my husband all the time. And her, I'll be like, I would do it, but I can't because the first thing that's going to break on me is my nose. And then it's over.
Starting point is 01:09:05 No, but it's so fixed. She can set it going to break on me is my nose. And then it's over. But it's so fixed. She can set it up how she wants to set it up. Not the UFC. That is not fixed. Well, no. That's why I said wrestling. I mean, because she can do wrestling. That's big money.
Starting point is 01:09:14 No. I would do UFC. You want to do UFC. I'll break these bitches down. See? I'm a great fighter. Listen. We see.
Starting point is 01:09:20 You know what? You know what I told somebody the other day? Because I told somebody, I said, you do karate, don't you? You ain't going to do no more karate than me. I don't know karate, but I know crazy. I know crazy. I know crazy. You know, what's his name said there?
Starting point is 01:09:34 What's the singer name? James Brown in the song. I don't know karate, but I know crazy. She know James Brown, too. I know that's right. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, last question. Is that your security guard out there that was out there at the fight that night?
Starting point is 01:09:45 You know what? I travel with about 20 security guards, so I'm not sure. Now you know which one I'm talking about. I'm talking about the three-piecer. Is that the one right there? The three-piecer? And is it a slap test that they got to get through? I cannot stand y'all two.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Why are y'all so funny? Why is y'all so funny? When I seen him, I noticed him before I noticed you. I said, I know him. It's like, don't we want to be like, you good? him, I noticed him before I noticed you. I said, I know him. It's like, don't we want to be like, you good? You good? That's what I asked him.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I said, you good? You good? I asked him, I said, you need some water? Evan, don't ask him no shit like that. Why would you ask him that shit?
Starting point is 01:10:13 Listen, I'm going to tell you something. They got plenty of money from the suits. They'll be just fine. Right, we know that. We know. We know they pay. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:10:20 it's Jocelyn Hernandez. Jocelyn, the Puerto Rican princess. The biggest. It's the breakfast club. Thank you, bae. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest
Starting point is 01:10:45 Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 01:11:09 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
Starting point is 01:11:49 For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 01:12:42 That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow and admire, join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy and very fun. Listen to post run high on the I heart radio Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again,
Starting point is 01:13:40 as they guide you through this podcast experiment in dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had the second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words,
Starting point is 01:13:59 I choose me. She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want to help. Listen to I Do Part Two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So, y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records, because in order to make history, by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was donkey up the day. Made it. Damn, the hee-haw, kid. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm not even trying to be Donkey of the Day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. They called Donkey of the Day and it really caught me off guard.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Damn, Charlemagne, who got the Donkey of the Day today? Well, just hilarious. Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, March 28th is a double donkey. It goes to 38-year-old Keith Chastain and the Clovis Police Department. It comes a point in time in life where we all must remember it takes two. Okay? Two. All right?
Starting point is 01:16:36 Kids, gather around. Your Uncle Charlo would like to tell you about some things that have been going on since the 1900s. Okay? One of those things is the saying it takes two okay or it takes two to tango that means that a situation or argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible for it i repeat it takes two to tango means that a situational argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible for it it takes two there's also a classic hip-hop record that will make anyone with a soul who grew up in the 1980s lose their mind okay uh the reason i am giving you this history lesson
Starting point is 01:17:15 today is because in this donkey that i'm delivering it absolutely took to you all right see keith was arrested 10 times in one month i repeat keith chastain was arrested 10 times in one month. I repeat, Keith Chastain was arrested 10 times in one month. See, y'all think I be lying. Let's go to Fox 26 News for the report, please. Local law enforcement agencies say they are very familiar with 38-year-old Keith Chastain, who has been booked in Fresno County Jail not once, not twice, but 10 times in the last 31 days. Chastain is from Fresno and is currently facing 18 felonies and 15 misdemeanors from his recent arrests according to Clovis Police Department. His charges include stealing six vehicles, a DUI, vandalism, fraud, possession
Starting point is 01:18:02 of controlled substance and more. Clovis Police Department alone says it has arrested Chastain six times in the last month. Around 9.30 Tuesday morning, Clovis Police received a call about a stolen truck that Chastain was suspected of driving. Police say an officer found the stolen truck driving in Old Town Clovis and followed it until more officers arrived. Officers pulled Chastain over in front of Clovis Police Department and arrested him without incident. Police say he was the only person in the stolen truck and happened to be on his way to pick up his personal property from Clovis Police Department from the last time he was arrested. Mind you, he was in a stolen vehicle. Hmm. time he was arrested mind you he was in a stolen vehicle now uh as you just heard uh keith chastain
Starting point is 01:18:50 was arrested 10 times by clovis police six times okay six times by clovis police and four times by other agencies he was in a stolen vehicle on the way to pick up his items from the jail. OK, now, if he had gotten locked up by different agencies once or twice, I would understand. But if you get locked up by the same agency, the Clovis Police Department, six times, six times. At what point does it become the police department's fault as well for constantly letting you out? At what point does it become a judge's fault for constantly granting you bail? He's facing 18 felonies and 15 misdemeanors
Starting point is 01:19:29 with charges including stealing six vehicles, DUI, evangelism, fraud, possession of a controlled substance and a whole lot more at some point, maybe after arrest number three, possibly after arrest number five. Surely at arrest number six, someone at the Clovis Police department has to say no need to let this man out because he's just gonna come right back okay if the clovis police department
Starting point is 01:19:51 had a customer loyalty program like starbucks or subway or sephora this man keith would get his 10th arrest for free okay get arrested nine times get your 10th arrest for free clearly this man has a boyfriend behind those walls either that or he likes the food okay when someone shows you who they are believe them and this man keith has shown us he's a serial criminal okay so give him what he wants and what he wants is clearly zero bond 10 arrests in 31 days insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results so yes keith is insane because he keeps committing crimes and the same crimes and getting locked up. And the Clovis Police Department is insane because they keep locking Keef up for these crimes, the same crimes and letting him out. They both are to blame. So please give Keef Chastain a he and give the Clovis Police Department a ha together because it takes two to give them the biggest hee-haw this man wrote his name
Starting point is 01:20:49 in jail yo that's why they say don't write your name they say don't write your name on the walls in jail you keep coming back to that jail jesus the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy sholomane the god Breakfast Club. Of course, Jess Hilarious is here. Yes, I am. And we got a special guest in the building, Deon Cole. Hello, hello, hello. How you feeling, my brother? How's everybody doing? Everybody good?
Starting point is 01:21:15 Everybody. Less black and highly favored. Yes, yes, yes. I'm happy to see you. I can't, I'm just, yeah, I'm happy to see you. I'm so happy to see you as well. Thank you. Y'all know each other? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I love Deon Cole. Yes, yes. I'm so happy to see you. Thank you. Y'all know each other? Yeah. It's stand-up comedy. I know I'm just joking. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Definitely, man. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. A lot to talk about. You got Average Joe.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Aren't you in the New Color Purple too, right? Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. New Color Purple, Average Joe. We just talked about that yesterday. We were talking about they just released a trailer.
Starting point is 01:21:43 What's your thoughts on the movie? Because we were like, Color Purple, is that a movie that you do over and over? Hard to remake classics, man. So the director, Blaise, I don't know, he did Beyonce's The Lion King, where she was like, her and Jay, they was like... The live action Lion King. Yeah, but remember this video she had? It was like a 20-minute video where she was like in cars and on the beach running.
Starting point is 01:22:07 And her and Jay had these like suits and stuff on or whatever. It was like very beautifully shot. Oh, ape thing. Yeah, yeah, all of that. Yeah, yeah. He directed all of that. And so for him to take that vision and apply it to this movie is like bananas. Plus, it's a different spin on it.
Starting point is 01:22:24 It's a whole different spin on a color purple. So it's going to be way different than the other one. But still, and it's all right, you know, holding up to what it is. But I ain't really big on remakes neither like that. But this one, y'all, is crazy because it's a different perspective. That's what I was saying. In 2022, you can't do color purple. You have to be woke. Yeah, yeah yeah there's so much stuff yeah yeah it's a whole
Starting point is 01:22:48 different whole different look on it whole different span on it but you know some of the remakes are like i didn't like coming to america too right i just yeah the first one was just classic i don't think you touched that yeah yeah i didn't like uh there was another remake that they did but people told me white man can't jump i didn't want to go see that but people telling me it's really really good so i guess it can if they come from a different perspective a new way house party was the another one i didn't like i thought i didn't i don't really like that one but yeah when they do it from a different perspective or shot well i don't think there's a problem who you playing yeah i play um alfonso so i play uh sealy's father gotcha oh
Starting point is 01:23:23 that's the one that said, take Sealy. You can't have, you can't have, I can't remember the girl's name, you can't have her, but you can have Sealy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She ugly, but she work hard.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I play him. They kept that line in there? Nah, nah. It's different. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, but you know, you still get it. He's still that dude. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah know, you still get it. He's still that dude. Got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You still call her ugly just in a 2020 way. In a woke way. Do you hate that now?
Starting point is 01:23:53 You're having to adjust, like, your content because of this new era? Yo, I do hate it, definitely. That's why I don't understand why people who don't like that kind of stuff, like, why do you even come to the shows? You're messing it up for the people that really pay to come see and hear. You know what I mean? Like, why would you come in there with your beliefs and feelings about something that I thought of? And you ain't in my world.
Starting point is 01:24:16 You ain't in my tax bracket. You ain't around the people I'm around. You ain't not about my culture. But you come over here and try to tell me what I need to be saying and doing. It don't even make sense. Yeah. So, yeah, I hate that, that we have to kind of conform to that. And I heard somebody say that in an interview that we don't and it's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And it is a problem. I think, honestly, you got Lenny Bruce and Richard and all these people who stood up for us to be able to say whatever we want to say. And now we can't. It's like it's crazy to take away from the whole thing it's like now you go to comedy shows and they tell you what they think you want to hear in order to be safe right you know what i mean but there's certain comics that are still out on the front line that get loose you know like dave and just just don't give a nope about nothing you know so you got great comics that's still out here fighting for that voice that we all have and that people want to hear,
Starting point is 01:25:09 except for certain people that don't, so. And your circumstance is unique because you definitely edgy on stage, but then you got all the corp going on. Yeah. Old Spice and Dope. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Sitcoms and all that.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah, I can't say exactly what I want to say. Yeah. I mean, see, That's my whole life, sitting back trying to figure out another way. That's all I do. I be like, how can I say this another way? And still be able to say it. It's wild. You the face of Old Spice, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Crazy. Like, that's wild. If you really think about it. It's really wild. It's been a long time. I only think of two people. Dion Cole and the dude who used to ride the horse
Starting point is 01:25:48 back when he was a kid. Yeah. It wasn't his horse. It was something. Yeah, yeah. No, he was on the horse. He was on the horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:55 It's crazy, right? Which is crazy. Yeah, I couldn't even, even when they came to me about it, I was just like, wow. So when they came to you and said, hey, we want you
Starting point is 01:26:02 to do this Old Spice commercial and be the favorite, what was your thought? So at first, they came to you and said, hey, we want you to do this Old Spice commercial, what was your thought? So at first, they came to me and they was like, I guess they had seen me do all these different kind of quirky characters, like on Angie Tribeca and Conan and Black-ish. And I was doing all these trippy characters. And I guess they were like, yo, it makes sense. Where it was like, yo, you come in and yo, we can rock. And I was like, yeah. I was like, yeah made sense where it was like yo you come in and yo we can all we can rock and
Starting point is 01:26:26 i was like yeah i was like yeah i can do that so they flew me to portugal man and i shot all of this basically how old spice get down you know what i mean like really wild in the woods your beard grow and throwing trees and you know i did all of. And then I came back to the U.S. and they was like, they ain't want to use none of that. So you did all that. Did all of that and then used none of it. And then they came to me about something else. And then me and this other guy, we was just sitting.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I mean, this other guy, he was Q. He was writing this whole new premise. And then when he came to me about it, and I was like, man, that's cool. And so we did it. He was writing this whole new premise. And then when he came to me about it, I was like, man, that's cool. And so we did it, and man, it took off. Just me and my girl Gab. I love this. Yeah, yeah. We just got it in.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I went and grabbed Gab and was like, yeah, they're thinking about this thing where it's a relationship and it's a couple. And you're trying to take your old spice. And they was like, yeah, let's do it. And it's, relationship and it's a couple and trying to take your old spice and you know i they was like yeah let's do it this man we did it and because it's a storyline commercial and i was supposed to be his little sister. Yeah, man. Tell the truth. I'm not a mess. I'm a mess. I don't know they picked Lala after me. They did pick Lala. You look more like Deon's little sister than Lala. I did.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I didn't know Lala was supposed to be your sister in the commercial. I never thought about that. I never even knew that. It doesn't seem like Lala's a family member. And it was another person that, no, he was supposed to tell me, get your black ass hands off my something, right? And I gave else uh-huh they never would have said that get your black ass head off my whole body i cut the tv off every time i see that man i be like man that's supposed to be me i'm serious i was supposed to be as little people yeah for real
Starting point is 01:28:20 they ain't gonna tell you you know you were at the top. That's dope. That's dope. That's dope. When we come back, we got more with Dion Cole. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
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Starting point is 01:30:02 This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
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Starting point is 01:31:27 you get your podcasts. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part Two, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again as they guide you through this podcast experiment in dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had the second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me. She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want to help. Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. So, y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, Deon Cole. Now, Jess? So I want to know, are you Dr. Delamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, Deon Cole. Now, Jess.
Starting point is 01:34:06 So I want to know, are you Dr. Deon Cole now? Because I saw you just, you know, honored. Yeah, absolutely. Like if somebody on a plane holla out they need a doctor, they're going to be assed out. But that ain't that kind of doctor. But yeah, yeah, I just got that. I just got an honorary doctor. Do you honor the graduation?
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Colanda Smith College, which is now about to be a university. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Philander Smith College, which is now about to be a university. Yeah, thanks, man. And he honored you for all the work that you did and everything? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Charlamagne paid for his. Yeah, really? I got an endowment at South Carolina State University. Okay. Made me an honorary doctor. Yeah, well, there it is. And I get a commencement speech.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Yeah, yeah, I did too. It was wild. I gave mine. They really didn't give too, too. It was wild. I gave mine. They really didn't give two to what I was saying. I thought I was dropping some gems, yo. They was all sitting out there on their phone. I was like, they was out there like this.
Starting point is 01:34:59 So they might have been taking notes. They might have been taking notes. Yeah, they might have been. They might have been taking notes. I don't think so, yo. So you keep going when you see that? Do you cut it short? Man, I was bombing. Like, for real.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Like, I was giving it. And then it'd be like a couple chuckles, a couple coughs. And then I'd just keep going. Like, just going on to the next topic or whatever. But yeah, yeah, it wasn't. I was thinking I was doing, like, stand-up. You think you're in front of an audience like that? You're about to be ripping.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Nah, they was out there like, nah, I want to see my baby cross and get a degree. And that's what I'm here for. But that stand-up muscle don't kick in when you see people ignoring you? Because you'd get at somebody for that. Nah, I'm quick to leave. I leave. I leave. I leave.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Man, I done left some shows. In the middle of a show? Yeah. Oh, my God. I try it, and I keep leave. I'll leave. I'll leave. Man, I done left some shows. In the middle of a show? Yeah. Oh, my God. I try it, and I keep going. If it ain't working, I just know that I ain't for them. And I go, I'm Trevor. Good night.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Good night. I leave on a whole nother night. Good night. I'm Trevor. I'm Sean. Peace out. I'm Sean. Peace out. Nashville. This is sunk.
Starting point is 01:36:08 He's sunk. You got Average Joe coming out too, right? Yeah, yeah. Average Joe, man. This was, thank you so much. It was, man,
Starting point is 01:36:17 this was a labor of love. It's like a darkly comedic drama that takes place in Pittsburgh. This dude, his father dies and these mob dudes are looking for him. And Joe, he don't know what's going on, but his father left some money trying to figure out what's going on. And he had to make these decisions between family and money. But yeah, it's funny, but it's dark. It's dark as hell.
Starting point is 01:36:44 We was leaving set miserable. and money but I guess it's funny but it's dark dark as hell like we was leaving set miserable just from being like a comic yeah you gotta you know you good comedy but every day just to leave murdering lying and deceitful and heartache and losing people and every day you leave. That was the first time I started realizing and understanding how people kind of break when they do movies and stuff.
Starting point is 01:37:11 That was the very first time because I used to be like, you ain't that deep into character. Nah, if you keep doing that and you have to constantly be that person to do that, that's where on you. I used to always think
Starting point is 01:37:24 like with Pac, they always say Pac became like... Bishop. be that person to do that like you like that's where on you i used to always think like like with pock they always say pock became like bishop yeah he became bishop from juice or whatever anyway that's how that show was man we was down there we were shooting in the lineup boy it was like we was doing like 16 hours sometimes 20 hours yo shooting it but but we got a nice piece of work and man this is gonna be something if y'all like murder mayhem absolutely yeah you gonna you gonna love this you're lead crazy because even as comics we we can still play any part. We can do anything.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I always think of Robin Williams and the comics. Especially going from comedy to drama. And Jim Carrey. And even what you just said, how 16 hours, you got to stay this person. And you got to, it's like you're used to being, you know? But no, it's different. But the fact that you can do it. Yeah, but it's like
Starting point is 01:38:25 i remember when i when they when when they when i took the job because usually i'm a type of cat i go play my part and i go get my drop top and we rolling you know what i mean like that's what i did on blackish for eight years i did my part and i was out i was gone well i signed on to do this and seeing like 60 page scripts and i'm in like 90 of it i'm looking like like i got a real job i'm like i can't leave they're like man first one here last to leave you like what it was an adjustment because i still had other things going on and other businesses and other projects and trying to write that and do that and trying to do this. Yeah. I had to learn to I had to cut all that out and just focus dead on this and get it done.
Starting point is 01:39:16 But yeah, being being that you got to watch what you pray for. You got to know how to pray. Yeah. A lot of people don't know how to pray. And, you know, that was one of the things that I learned, you know a lot of people don't know how to pray and you know that was one of the things that i learned you know yeah a person to ask man lord can i have a man can i have a woman and they'll get you one and they won't have a job i forgot to ask for a job with that person when it comes to comedy and drama right they always
Starting point is 01:39:42 say it's a thin line that's what the whole tears of a clown thing come from so as a comic you don't lean into trauma yeah absolutely that's that's exactly what i did you know what i mean but it wasn't like that at first like another another turning point when we was doing um the heart of the fall i was like i walked on set and was like yeah what's going on hey what's going on i'm funny and comedian comedian i remember jonathan majors and all them they was just all sitting back and doeroy lindo they was all just quiet and just chilling i was like hey what's going on beyond hey so we're gonna knock this out and we gonna they was just like and then when we rehearsed they was just like so like ink like it was so real and so it just was like man i remember jonathan told me he was
Starting point is 01:40:27 like man you shouldn't acting is the worst title for this job this is what you should not be doing you should not be acting you should become you should become that person instead of acting and so it made me be like oh really, really? So then I went back, changed my whole demeanor, man, just from that conversation and came back and was like, all right, we got to just become this person. And I remember that all the time, just becoming, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:59 When we come back, we got more with Deion Cole. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Welcome back to the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Welcome back to the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, Dion Cole. What about when you're not in the mind state to joke all work?
Starting point is 01:41:16 Like, did you give yourself time to grieve after your mother passed? So, I am, like, still dealing with that. Like, that's, that like that's like really with me still and i'm trying because i was the only child no brothers sisters no father yeah no thank you man and i'm still like that's why i try to stay as busy as possible because anytime i like have downtime or anything good happen like that with me because I'd be wishing she was here, that she can be here and be a part of that. And people out there that's going through the state, they know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Anything good happen to you, it's like a bittersweet moment. Even with the color purple coming out, I'm not in it like that, but I just wish my mama would have been there to see that. You know, it's things like that. Even Average Joe being the lead. It's like, I wish my mama was here so she could like see that and feel that. Because it was stuff we talked about. Even getting my doctorate.
Starting point is 01:42:18 For her to know that her son was now like a doc having a degree like that. It's just, that would have like sent her you know what i mean so anytime these situations happen it's like it's nice but i also just get into like and people don't and people always be like you need to go talk to somebody and something and it's like yeah you can do that but this just happened to me yeah you know i mean it's like i don't know nobody who has something like this can just happen to you you go talk to somebody and you all good if anybody's like that they weird to me like you should be able to agree like you said and you should be able to have these moments and don't rush people in these situations you know just just be there for them you know and i had a lot of people leave me
Starting point is 01:43:05 like a lot of people leave me because i wasn't who they wanted me to be when i was good your mom just passed come on i know but everybody left and it was weird and people out there that's dealing with death they they know what i'm talking about like people leave you because you change and now i'm not the person that i that i that i was when they met me and i understand that but if you're a good friend and you really there you're gonna you're gonna understand this the severity of this and you're gonna understand that you know being the only child not having nobody else and no mother, no father, nothing like that. That's going to weigh on you.
Starting point is 01:43:48 You're basically in the world alone. You know what I mean? You really don't have nobody else. I mean, I got family, cousins and stuff like that. But immediate, it's hard, man. I go through it every day and I try to be better. I try to advocate to be better. And, you know, I try to advocate and tell everybody, man, if you got your mother,
Starting point is 01:44:07 your father, any of that, man, take pictures of them, video them, talk to them. Even if you don't get along with them, just be around them, man, because you just never know.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Because my mom died sudden. There was nothing wrong with her. Just, I came from audition, calling her, and they was like, she didn't make it. And I'm thinking that she was going to an appointment. And I was like audition calling her and they was like, she didn't make it. And I'm like, I'm thinking that she was going to an appointment.
Starting point is 01:44:28 And I was like, an appointment? They was like, nah, she didn't make it. And I'm like, make what? And she could not understand that.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Like, what do you mean she didn't make it? And they told me that I just like, I was like, I just talked to her. What are you talking about? I didn't even want to like, even with my Netflix special,
Starting point is 01:44:43 I didn't even want to do that. Yeah. That wasn't even something I was planning to do but I got cornered into shooting that special on that day you know like the day that my mom died September 10th and I was looking for a spot usually when you tour if you're about to shoot a special you won't perform in that city yeah so I was going to do Philly philly was the city i was gonna shoot my special in but uh we were taking too long with the deal and i ended up doing philly right now i had nowhere else to go yeah and i wanted to shoot i thought about new york but i just was like you got to be from new york in order to do new york you know what i mean like
Starting point is 01:45:21 new york is just different you know it's like you got to be from there but when it came around to me shooting special netflix was like oh you got shooting september and i was like make sure it's at the end of september because i knew i couldn't shoot around a year later from the day my mom passed they came back not even knowing they was like this yeah we got the venue i'm like man let's do it i was like what day it was like september 10th and i was like i said nah i was like i was like i ain't gonna do it then about days later my mom was like you know what don't even mourn like that like celebrate her shoot on that day dedicate this to her and celebrate her because when people pass man you have like, make them live through you. Of course. Even if it's a password. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:46:07 If you set a password and you put their name in every day, that's making them stay with you every day. You know what I mean? So I was like... You just didn't give up your password. No, I did not. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:46:21 I didn't give up my password, no. No, but, yo, and I just was like, man, I'm gonna shoot it and i shot it like on that day but i also was trying to show people and teach people that with comedians and entertainers even y'all people don't understand we we got problems and when we performing you never know what that comic is going through so that was the whole deal with my Netflix special. It was that I wanted to perform without telling nobody what was going on. And then at the end of the special, let them know I was up here rocking with y'all. You're not even knowing what I was going through.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I just cried right before I walked out on stage. I was backstage wiping my eyes, took a deep breath and walked out there, performed the whole special with them not even knowing that this was like the one year anniversary of my mom's death. And I wanted them to see that us performers, we had to put aside whatever we go on.
Starting point is 01:47:21 You said something powerful that I would like for you to talk about just because that's something I struggle with would like for you to talk about just because that's something i struggle with when how do you show up as a friend when somebody has somebody they lose that's close to them like a parent or significant other like what do you what would you have wanted your friends to do in that moment so if i'm now different and we ain't buying bottles and kicking it and i ain't in a club and i'm now i'm in a club with you but i'm but i'm daydreaming and i'm zoned out and i ain't helping you pull all the women
Starting point is 01:47:52 in the club and all that or whatever now i'm boring to you i'm not what what you was if you're a friend you're gonna be like man let's get out this club yeah let's go let's go chill let's go get you together let's go chill yeah if you're any way different even if i'm snappy if even if i'm not understanding if i don't hear you correctly or any of that understand that i wasn't normally like this right so therefore you have to know that there's some kind of issue going on with me right so therefore you have to channel that and understand that and get to know who i am now or who i'm who i'm about to be because now i'm embarking on a new normal and that's what everybody has to do they have to embark on a new normal at this point
Starting point is 01:48:38 yeah absolutely and once a true friend understand that yo he's he's embarking on a new normal and i have to be here to learn that new normal in order to be there, to be there for that. You know what I mean? So once a person understands that and they'll be there, they won't leave you and they're going to be there and they're going and they're going to help you out. And they're not going to leave because all of a sudden you don't understand them and all of that. And it's like it's it's it's so whack or whatever and i i lost not only did i lose my mother i lost like other family members and friends and so it was very and i'm still in that kind of lonely spot right now you know but it's a lot
Starting point is 01:49:17 better because i'm working and i got all these other projects yeah coming out and about to pop and bubble and all that and so it's taken up my mind frame and, you know, me working on a whole new hour to tour with and all of that. So, you know, I'm not feeling as left out and lonely no more because, you know, I got a lot going on. But as a friend, that's what a friend does. A friend understands that you change and they're going to change with you. They're going to be there for you and they're gonna change with you they're
Starting point is 01:49:45 gonna be there for you and they're gonna find out how are you now find out what makes you happy now what makes you sad now you know and they're gonna be there for you you know what i mean but falling back and and and it's a selfish move a lot of people go because they go oh you're not making me feel comfortable around you or right and now it's about them yeah and not you and and not you you know what i mean so yeah it's it's a it's a tripped out situation now i'm still learning you know what i mean and uh and my but but the friends that i do have man we've been rocking and you know we having a ball and we're gonna keep it moving we appreciate you brother we and we love you brother hey i love y''all, man, and I thank y'all, man, for this platform.
Starting point is 01:50:27 I hate that it got serious like this. You guys always give the best conversations. It's funny and it's serious. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate y'all, man. Y'all keep doing what y'all doing.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Y'all are very, I just want to say, y'all are very powerful. More powerful than what y'all even probably thinking, though. And I want y'all to understand that and keep doing good with the positions, y'all. Thank you, man. Thank you, brother. Average Yo premieres June 25th on BET+.
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