The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Usher Interview, Leandris Liburd & Tara Robinson Interview & Michael Harriot Interview)

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Hey, I'm Jack B. Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands
Starting point is 00:01:51 or at the end of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It's very, very, very, very beautiful. You guys are changing the entire scene. The culture of Hollywood. Boy, y'all came a long way. They might not watch the news, but, you know, they're listening to the Breakfast Club. Who the GOAT? Let's go. DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Y'all are like Omega 4. Breakfast Club. That's how we get our day started. Right now. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Just hilarious. What's up?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God. DJ Envy is not here with us today, but it's President's Day. We all are. You know what I'm saying? We're just acting like we're here in the moment. So actually, we recorded this on Friday when Envy wasn't here, and it's playing back. Why are you telling them all that? I don't like lying to people. What is the point? You used to lie in the moment. So actually, we recorded this on Friday when Indie wasn't here, and it's playing back up. Why are you telling them all that? Because I don't like lying to people.
Starting point is 00:03:27 What is the point? You used to lie all the time. I do, but when I lie, I let them know I'm lying, and I always tell them, you should believe me even when I'm lying. Oh, my gosh. Because I'm going to tell you when I'm lying.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Well, be hyper. Y'all, it's President's Day. That don't mean nothing to her. She don't... I don't even know what The hell The hell you get so excited About that for We just happy to have
Starting point is 00:03:49 The day off For the moment We'll be back tomorrow But today we do have A lot of new content for you Because Usher checked in with us Yes You know to talk about
Starting point is 00:03:58 Everything that happened At the Super Bowl Who was supposed to be on stage He talks to us about his marriage And why he hasn't been up here. Yep, and he also dropped some Easter eggs that we didn't see y'all, so y'all got to go back and watch the halftime show.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That's right. So we're going to talk to Usher later on in the show. And Michael Harriot will be joining us. Michael Harriot is the author of a book called Black AF History, The Unwhite Washed Story of America, which retells American history from the experiences of black people.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And he's a South Carolina native. And this book is a New York Times bestseller. And it's a great read. And I want y'all to read it. So he'll be here this morning. Jess hates when I have authors up here. All the time. And no disrespect, but you can write a comic book
Starting point is 00:04:37 and he'll be like, oh my God, we got to get him on the show. What? Jesus. I like reading. Okay. But we'll be here. Well, no, we won't be here. But you can listen to that new content that we just talked about. Look at you lying? But we'll be here. Well, no, we won't be here, but you can listen to that new content
Starting point is 00:04:46 that we just talked about, all right? Look at you lying. But we'll be here. No, we'll be here tomorrow. I'm so used to hearing everybody else's lies. I'm just mimicking what they be doing. It's The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yo, Charlamagne. Envy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. Made it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. We'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We live. Hello, who's this? How you doing? This is Lamar, the boy of the road. Lamar, what's up? Get it off your chest, brother. Yo, I've been listening to 105.1 since I was a kid. Yo, I just want to show love to y'all because I've been calling in and I've always gotten
Starting point is 00:05:24 through since, as we said, Dre. Since backall because I've been calling in and I've always gotten through since Lisa and Dre. Since back then, I've been getting through. Wow. Salute to Ed Lovell and Dr. Dre and Lisa. Absolutely. Lisa G. Yeah, since back then, they might as well throw it up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I just appreciate y'all, you know, and y'all show a lot of love to the community. So I just appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate the radio station. I appreciate everything y'all do. Thank you, brother and again yeah salute to uh dr dre and ed level and like i said growing up in queens i would see ed lover all the time and hollis and and their big inspirations and i always appreciate what they did man so salute to that oh absolutely i mean ed lover was one of the first uh first radio personalities i saw really getting it because you know he was hosting your mtv r. Did a movie. He was the man.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Those are things that, you know, I've always aspired to do. So salute that. Love it. I actually hosted Essence Festival with him on Hulu last year. Yes. Amazing. He's so funny. Hello.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Who's this? Hey, good morning, guys. This is Devontae. Hey, Devontae. Good morning. Good morning, Devontae. Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Good morning, Charlamagne. How you doing today? Good. And Justin Lares, I want to congratulate, Charlamagne. How are you doing today? Good. And Jess and Larry, I want to congratulate you on the job. I wish you nothing but success, and I wish you much success in the future. Thank you, honey. Oh, and I got a question for Jess and DJ Envy. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You guys took acting classes, right? I did. I did not. Yo, you did? Oh, because the thing is, that's something I want to get into in the future. I'm about to be 32 this month, and I feel like my life is going nowhere. I mean, I'm an assistant manager,
Starting point is 00:06:50 but I want my life to go better and higher. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of acting classes online. If you can afford it, some of these colleges actually have it. My wife went to acting class at, I can't remember the school in the city, but they had,
Starting point is 00:07:04 and I went to Tracy Moore Marable. She uh she still i think she still does it she's a she's a black woman out of new york she she did buster rhymes she did me uh she did a a host of people she did yandy she did a couple of people back in the day and you know just it's just you know doing reps and teaching us the art of acting so it was pretty cool you actually don't always need um acting classes i would say is that something that you've always been interested in yeah i've been like i've been thinking about it since um 2013 but i'm just i'm just honestly i'm just i'm just scared to feel that i might fail no no no no don't ever think that so what you can do is you can get some monologues and you can practice until you're able to even afford if you can you know acting classes
Starting point is 00:07:44 because they do get expensive they are some there are some that are affordable but just start practicing monologues and then put yourself on camera put yourself on tape and then put yourself out there you know like to see to get feedback because that's that's honestly what people do on youtube and stuff like that and that's how a lot of people, they get discovered just like that. Right. Uh, well, I live in Massachusetts, so I might, how much of the,
Starting point is 00:08:09 the classes that you own, Andy? Bro, I went to classes 15 years ago, 17 years ago. So I'm sure what the, they were like $50 a class back then. So I don't know what they are now.
Starting point is 00:08:19 They were, they were not, not today. Not today. I mean, it was a long time ago, but you know, they also have free classes.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You just got to Google and check. There's, there's all types of work, workshops that you can do. And,. I mean, it was a long time ago. Yeah. But, you know, they also have free classes. You just got to Google and check. There's all type of workshops that you can do. And they have that thing that's like, I'm trying to think what it is, where you could actually go to comedy shows and you could be a part of it. It is. But you just got to do your Googles, bro. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And put yourself out there. Improv. Improv shows. They have improv shows where you can actually be a part of it and do it weekly that are usually not expensive or free. Yeah. All right. Thank you, guys. No problem. Improv shows. They have improv shows where you can actually be a part of it and do it weekly that are usually not expensive or free. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Thank you, guys. No problem. Have a good one. I like how fake professional y'all got when he called. Like, y'all turned on y'all trying to get an apartment voice.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You know what I mean? It's literally you, man, because you didn't take acting or anything because he didn't say anything to you. Oh, no. I like the executive producer.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm not really this. Every time they put me on stuff, I'm playing myself. But y'all really did turn. Y'all voices changed completely. Because you can't play nobody else that's why i really did it like i i thought that's where i was gonna go before i when i was djing i was like i'm gonna be an actor yeah i was gonna say you did ain't nobody ever thought i swear to god i'm in a couple of movies i did i just did east new york last year the movie you ain't never thought you was gonna be no actor I swear I did I swear
Starting point is 00:09:26 I ain't no I swear I did but what's the movie you played a real estate agent I didn't do that movie
Starting point is 00:09:33 oh hey look Charlamagne I did Blood of a Champion with Bokeem Woodbine Blood of a Champion oh my god
Starting point is 00:09:40 you was in a movie with Bokeem yeah Bokeem oh my god and that was TMZ quarter mile so I said what's up with you guys? He said, huh?
Starting point is 00:09:46 That was great. Huh? Huh? That huh killed it. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club Hello, who's this? Yo, good morning, guys This is Brian, man
Starting point is 00:10:12 Peace and blessings, man Peace Get it off your chest Yo, man Listen, man I was stuck in the elevator for a whole hour, man And the main thing to me To do this, man
Starting point is 00:10:22 Is to really wake up earlier, man Because I felt like my life was over, man I made so much promises to me to do is really wake up earlier, man. Because I feel like my life is over, man. I made so much promises to God in this elevator, man. Yo, look at my mother, man. I'm on wishes for my worst enemy, man. No windows, no escape. I'm thinking about Bruce Willis.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And Die Hard. I'm thinking, I'm pressing the buttons. I'm trying to punch codes. I'm doing everything. I'm like, you know what? Let me think. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I had kicking. I'm trying to punch codes. I'm doing everything. I'm like, you know what? Let me fix it. Yo, I ain't going to lie. I had a little reception, but not too much.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I was playing Marvin Sapp. Never would have made it. Dang. Oh, my God. Where were you? The only reason why I got out. The only reason why I got out was because the Spams dude, he kept pressing the button downstairs, and he kept kicking the door, and then all of a sudden, it opened, but it
Starting point is 00:11:04 was a half of the floor Then it popped up And then I got out And I'm just telling everybody right now, man I don't know if I think I'm going to get elevated again You think it's a lawsuit? I don't know if it's a lawsuit
Starting point is 00:11:13 But I wouldn't wish that On my worst enemy Because I got a daughter Who has a very unhealthy fear Of elevators And she Oh, it's like the walls are closing in Like you just feel like
Starting point is 00:11:22 I feel like I was in one of The Titanic submarines, man. But that's a whole other story. But anyway, but look. We're in the Bronx of Brooklyn. Bronx of Brooklyn. You know it's the Bronx, bro. Of course it's the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You know. Come on, man. Everything broken in the Bronx. Damn. Everything's crazy, man. Have a blessed day. I'm glad that you got out of that situation. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I'm telling you, my eight-year-old is definitely afraid of elevators. I don't know what she watched that she saw somebody get stuck on an elevator, but Lord have mercy. She don't mess with them elevators, nah. She do not like elevators at all, in no way, shape, or form. Damn. Hello, who's this? Hello, it's Lawrence from New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Lawrence from New Jersey. What up, bro? Get it off your chest, man. Yo, Killer Mike, album of the year. Yes, I've been telling y'all that since the album came out. I told y'all he was going to win a rap album of the year? Yes, I've been telling y'all that since the album came out. I told y'all he was going to win a rap album of the year at the Grammys. Yeah, but I didn't know an album came
Starting point is 00:12:12 out. That's your fault. Yeah, but that's everybody's fault. Everybody is shocked that he got album of the year. I'm not. I've been on his radio saying that for months since it came out. Why? Why would he get album of the year. I'm not. I've been on his radio saying that for months since he came out. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Why would he get album of the year? Did you listen to his album, sir? I think what he's trying to say is the promotion wasn't really there for it. No, I'm not trying to say that. I'm saying I heard the album and it sound like a bunch of preaching. And I don't like that. I don't want to be preaching. I want to dance.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I want to have some fun. I don't want to hear all of that Martin Luther King stuff. It's not full of the Martin Luther King stuff. But listen, what album should have got Rap Album of the Year then to you? I can't think off my head, but I know that's a lot of rappers out there, some young kids out there that should have got Album of the Year. Wow. This is why nobody take it serious. But he's just following what people are saying online. Yeah, that's what it is. No, I'm not's just following what people saying online yeah exactly no i'm not i'm not a follower you never heard the
Starting point is 00:13:10 album you never heard the album and you don't know any other album that should have got album of the year we love to talk about problems but never have solutions well let me ask you a question why wasn't it televised now that's a whole different conversation i see that's a conspiracy we're not talking about not only was it not televised he Now, that's a whole different conversation. Now, see, that's a conspiracy we're not talking about. Not only was it not televised, he got arrested? Because if it was televised, people would be going, who's that? That's not true. That's what they would be saying. Listen, because my son is 13.
Starting point is 00:13:35 He was like, who's that? Your son is 13, though. That's 13. My son said, who's that, too? Like, what? Exactly. See? See?
Starting point is 00:13:44 They're kids. They're babies. You don't know his death son. Bro. Death son doesn't know killer Mike. Like what? Exactly See? See? They're kids They're babies You don't know Yes sir Yes sir doesn't know Killer Mike You know how many white people Performed at the Grammy
Starting point is 00:13:51 That I said who's that And I'm a grown ass man Like what? Well There ain't one white person That performed last night That you didn't know Exactly
Starting point is 00:13:58 A lot of them But I'll tell you one thing I'll tell you some songs That Miley Cyrus song That kept winning I ain't never heard that song In my life Never
Starting point is 00:14:04 Never That's the flower song I heard it this morning. I ain't never heard that song in my life. That's the flower song. I heard it this morning. I'm like, I never heard this song ever. In a year of Taylor Swift and SZA, I ain't hear no conversations about no Miley Cyrus.
Starting point is 00:14:13 But she won so many awards last night. The Billie Eilish song on the Barbie soundtrack I never heard. So congrats to Killer Mike. Yes, absolutely. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:22 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep, Charlemagne Tha God, just hilarious. DJ Envy had to step out for a second, but we got some special guests. Dr. Leandris LaBird and Tara Robinson. Leandri is the director of CDC's Office of Health Equity. And Tara is the founder and CEO of the Black Heart Association. And since February is Heart Health Month, we had to have them up here today.
Starting point is 00:14:49 How are you? Good morning. Good morning. Glad to be able to talk about Black women's heart health today with you all. Absolutely. Share a little bit of data. Data's not new. But we really are here to talk more about what black women can do and how our whole community can support black women in having healthier hearts and healthier lives. What is the CDC Foundation's Live to the Beat campaign for those that don't know? The campaign is a web-based campaign that really targets African Americans with things that we can do in order to protect our health and our heart health.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It has lots of resources, lots of videos. It's very culturally based, very much the things that we can relate to in our own communities. And so it's been around for three years. We just invite all of your listeners and your viewers to go to livetothebeat.org forward slash heart to heart. We're going to talk today a lot about the heart to heart challenge. Okay. What is the heart to heart challenge?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, what is it? Yeah. So the Heart to Heart Challenge focuses on particularly black women, even though heart disease is the leading cause of death for all black people. And heart disease is the leading cause of death for all women. It kills more women than all forms of cancer combined. And so what we want to be able to do is to encourage Black women to get involved with the campaign
Starting point is 00:16:35 and the challenge, follow some simple steps, and really start to just be more empowered to take care of themselves and to prioritize care of themselves. Yeah. And to prioritize self-care. Mm-hmm. That's a big theme.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So we say that self-care is health care. One of y'all survived three heart attacks. Terror. It was you. Mm-hmm. Girl. Girl. That has to be...
Starting point is 00:17:03 Well, it's amazing that you're still here in front of me. Right. But like, did you know something was wrong before? I didn't. I didn't. My symptoms started in 2013. My left arm went numb in my neck. And you would think based on those two symptoms that I would say, oh, it's my heart.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But no, I'm always in touch with the health care system, you know, going to the doctor when I'm supposed to. And so me and my husband said, well, maybe I just sleep on this side too much, you know, start self-diagnosing. And so I did that. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:04 What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests
Starting point is 00:18:53 and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:19:33 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever
Starting point is 00:20:32 you get your podcasts so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new podcast i've been working on with the story pirates and john glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. I wouldn't give up my seat Nine months before Rosa It was Claudette Goldman Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Ches Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And so I said, well, I'll wait till January to go follow up with my primary care and thinking I had time, not knowing then that someone was dying every 80 seconds from a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And so I went to my doctor and I said, hey, you know, these things are happening to me. My left arm's going numb, my feet are darker, you know, I'm tired, my neck. And she said, well, maybe you're just stressed. Your doctor? My doctor said that. Okay. Yes. And so I said, maybe I am because I'm a mother.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm a wife. I wear all these mini hats as many women do. And so I left there thinking I was just stressed. She made no connection to my heart being a possible issue. So God kept me from January to April. April 10th, I woke up at two o'clock in the morning. I still had all those symptoms times 10 and then went to the ER. By the time I arrived there, I felt much better, was dismissed and told them to follow up my primary care. And then the
Starting point is 00:23:56 next day in my classroom had another one. Then I'm going back and forth with the cardiovascular doctor that I should stay because they wasn't finding anything on their test but um then I was released at 11 at four o'clock the next day going back having a massive heart attack so were they not doing the right test they weren't um I believe that they were doing the test that they know to do um that's what I have to believe to be okay. But I think as data shows that most women don't show like men, present like men with heart attacks. But for me, I have the textbook symptoms. And so we know as black women, we face other issues with health care as far as bias and racism.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So I face those two things going through my ordeal. So we have to know where we stand and we have to know what our risk factors are. And that's why this campaign is so important. I've done like a million different, I've done every single heart test that you can possibly do, right? So even when they did, I don't know the technical term for it, but when they put the ink
Starting point is 00:24:58 inside of you and they can look inside your arteries Stress test? No, I did the stress test, but this is when they put the dye in you and it makes you warm. And then they can look inside your heart valves and see if there's any blockage and like your widow maker they didn't do that for you um i went through the cath lab during my massive heart attack they didn't do that before because i guess maybe they were coming back to back and i feel like they didn't do enough i'm sure there's other things they could have done um but i didn't have that done until i went through, well, I didn't do that part,
Starting point is 00:25:26 but I went through the cath lab, and then that's when I went into sudden death. I ended up dying that day, losing my life, going to heaven, coming back here. And so none of that happened because at that point it was too late. I'm in crisis at this moment. And so they did the basic test, your EKG, your CAT scan, your heart enzyme test. That's what was done when I went through ER. Nothing more that you would see at a cardiovascular doctor's office. Tara, forgive me.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm stupid. I just realized. I thought you had three separate heart attacks. It was all at one time. No, I had one April 10th, April 11th, April 12th. And then the next day. Yeah. Dang.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yikes. Yeah. And you said you died and went to heaven? Yeah. Yeah. You saw heaven? I did. Please elaborate if you don'tikes. Yeah. And you said you died and went to heaven? Yeah. Yeah. You saw heaven? I did. Please elaborate if you don't mind.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Please. I don't want to take the interview from little to the beat. But so what happened was, I thank God there was a sister in there that may help me be very comfortable. So it's important. No. In the emergency. In the cat lab.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm sorry. I'm glad you're with me. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. Tell me there's a sister in lab. I'm sorry. I'm glad you're with me. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. Tell me there's a sister in heaven. Oh, my God. Go ahead. So the nurse, I remember her because you're up during the entire procedure.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And so she was like, he's going to tamper with your heart. You're going to feel a little discomfort, but it's going to be okay. She was from New Orleans, so she had that thick accent. Okay. But it made me feel very comfortable. And when she said that, I was just gone. And so how I knew where I was, I could see myself. And it was a perfect day.
Starting point is 00:26:48 If you could think of the perfect day with the perfect green grass, perfect temperature, perfect, you know, and so vibrant, everything. And I could see myself like walking. And I had this peace. And that's how I knew where I was because my mind was white clear. I wasn't worried about my children here, my husband. Nothing here was a factor for me. And so I could hear my name being called. It was called three times.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And it was the nurse. And then I knew where I was because I was on my way. I could feel that, like a knowing. Yeah. And then I was back here after she called my name. And I didn't realize. She was like, oh, you fell asleep on us for a second. And then when the doctor came in and said you had 99 blockage known as the widowmaker um he said but when you died on us I stopped and prayed for you and so I was lucky enough to have
Starting point is 00:27:35 a doctor at that moment that wow Dr. DeLeandris what's the sign that something may be wrong with our hearts well Tara you know she certainly shared some of the classic symptoms. But the other things we need to always be aware of is our numbers. What is our blood pressure level? What is our cholesterol level? What are our blood sugars? I would even say, you know, what's our weight? You know, we need to check in with our physician regularly around these things.
Starting point is 00:28:09 For women, it's totally different from men. You know, I was lucky enough to have the textbook symptoms, which only 20% of women show up at the ER with the textbook symptoms. So imagine what happens to the rest of us who don't have those and see what I got with them. With men, you usually have the textbook symptoms. But with women, it can be a bellyache. You hear women complain of either arm being numb. You can hear fatigue.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You can hear no symptoms at all. And the danger with heart disease is that it doesn't have a look. And no shot to my counselor, survivors, sisters, but heart disease is dangerous because it looks okay. It looks like me and you dressed up in makeup. It looks like us in clothes and that we have to, you know, change that narrative. So in order to save our lives, and that's why these campaigns are live to the beat is important because when we talk about small steps, small steps is looking at your plate and saying, can i do to better um manage my health because yeah yeah my doctor told me that i'm just fighting against genetics because he's like my arteries just
Starting point is 00:29:11 are aging faster are aging faster than i am but heart disease runs in my family like my dad had whatever's after four quadruple no quadruple is four so whatever's after that quintuple yeah he had he had that bypass surgery. My uncles had like three or four different bypass surgeries. Yeah. And at Black Heart, we do genetic, well, we do a lipoprotein A. So we can tell our community if they're at risk of ever having a heart attack or stroke. So we do a lot of things on that bus.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And we're trying to be national with it so we can take this, we take this to our community as well yeah encouraging them to take those small steps well how can people reach out to y'all for you know more questions uh you know if they got more oh for questions and more info so certainly go to the website live to the beat.org forward slash heart to heart. That's where you can get more and more information about live to the beat and all of the many more strategies that we've been able to cover today. Yeah. And, and also you can reach us through, through that website that someone will follow up with you.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, for sure. What about a black heart association? So we're black heart association.org and we're about to get two more buses, one in Houston, one in San Antonio, and hopefully we'll be national soon. Amazing. Thank you, Dr. Leandris Liburd. Did I pronounce that right?
Starting point is 00:30:33 No, it's not fine. Leandris Liburd. You can't be messing with my name. That's going to contribute to the heart. That's right. I've been called a lot of things. And Tara Robinson, thank you for joining us this morning. That's right. That's right. No, it's a little bit. I've been through a lot of things. It's okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And Tara Robinson, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you for having us. It's The Breakfast Club. You're checking out The Breakfast Club. Yeah, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Charlamagne Tha God. Jeff Hilarious. Yes, we're here. And, well, we're really not here. We're not. Yeah, yeah, it's President's Day. But, you know, we have some new content for you
Starting point is 00:31:03 because Usher checked in with us to talk about all things Super Bowl and his marriage, his new tour, and we're going to get into that conversation right now on the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club. Usher! That wild man over there, what's going on with you? I know the domestic terrorist ain't calling nobody a wild man.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Jess Hilarious is here too, Usher. You know she's the new official third co-host of The Breakfast Club. What's up, Jess? With all the mess, how you doing? I just got this job and you ain't even come in here. You ain't been here since 2017. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I need to come up there to be more her and yours. Congratulations on everything, though, my brother. An amazing Super Bowl performance. A new album is out right now. Yes. And you are a domestic terrorist. You did it again. You're a minister of society.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Why were you so handsy? Why were you so handsy with Miss Alicia Keys, sir? No, listen. It's not any way in any shape, form, or fashion that, unfortunately, you gave me to handle. But, no, man man it was a celebration man we had an amazing time at the super bowl most watched super bowl of all time yeah of all time more people watched that than uh the apollo 11 landed man i'm like blown away since 1990 1969 you know there's not been a a greater viewing than what happened on Super Bowl Sunday.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So I'm really happy about that, man. And you've been a superstar for a long, long time. So what does something like the Super Bowl do for you when you perform in front of that many people on that stage? Is there another level? I don't I don't know. It's pretty hard to beat that one. And it's going to be pretty hard to beat that number. So, man, I'm just I'm just really happy, blessed. You know, I worked really hard in Las Vegas to to tell a story about my culture, where I come from and being able to share that with the rest of the world, you know, was was really a monumental
Starting point is 00:32:57 moment in my career, in my life. You know, I've said many times, you know, I turned Vegas to Atlanta where I was able to introduce the entire world to what Atlanta is and turn the world to Atlanta for that moment, for those 15 minutes. So I'm just really happy that everything happened the way that it did. I'm happy that Jay-Z and Des reached out to me to do it. I'm happy that Hamish shot it the way that he did. I'm happy that Akamon Jones and Hamish worked together and Baz, the people who put all of it together to look like it was. I'm happy to have my choreographers and dancers and contortionists and tumblers, Lil Jon, Ludacris, Alicia Keys, her, Will.i.am, everybody came through and was able to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Because it's a 30 year plus you know celebration for me absolutely and it was hard as hell to put all of those 30 years into 15 minutes but i did it and i was able to introduce people to you know the culture of the past you think about everything that vegas has offered over the last two years to me but everything that it represented in the past you noticed the wardrobe and the fact that I kind of took people through what I would consider a past, present and future experience just in time for me to launch my tour. But it was real deliberate, like the wardrobe was selected to make you remember how glamorous we were in those times and how, you know, going into, you know, segregated casinos and
Starting point is 00:34:22 being able to not, you know fraternize with normal people in those times it was like a a thing of pride being taken in that time so that was part of my storytelling like yo I really wanted to honor all of the people who had had anything to do with us being in Las Vegas from the beginning of what Las Vegas's experience was for our black experience bringing HBCUs into the conversation conversation capos came out step with me skate culture all of those things it was a past present future conversation now and then you end your night getting married yeah congratulations oh my god yeah what made you do it that night what made you get married that night um you know just to put you know an incredible ending on this chapter of las vegas
Starting point is 00:35:07 we talked about it we i might propose to her uh last year and she's been wearing that ring and i ain't want to be that guy who just you know just continue to hold on forever to the ring but um you know we talked about the best time to do it obviously uh around the time we started getting ready for super bowl i was going back to Las Vegas. It's like, damn, I got to play Las Vegas, do these shows, then go get ready for Super Bowl. And let's do a wedding. I was like, that's just too much pressure. What if we, you know, we do a drive-thru just for our kids and our immediate family?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah. You know, Vegas style, you know, how Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley did it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, let's go get officiated by an Elvis impersonator and make it fun. You know, you got all the pressures that come with getting married. You got to, you know, get your gown together. Make sure everybody's accommodated. Get the food.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Make sure you're spending hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars on this moment that really is about the union of two people and the love of your family. So I was happy to have her family there, my family there, my kids there. And we did it. We did it without any pressure. And finishing the Super Bowl was the hardest part, and then getting dressed to get there. But then in time to make it to the after party,
Starting point is 00:36:20 and we went and kicked it with Snoop and uh and dr dre and my flippers party but it was it was cool man it was it was wonderful you know us regardless of your reputation as you know mr don't leave your girl around me you you you're a family man like you like being married i'm plural see what i'm saying terrorists you see what i'm saying oh minutes what was the important people saying i guess i'm just. What was the importance? Some people think I guess I'm just plural. What was the importance of paying tribute to Michael Jackson in your performance? Because I don't know if a lot of people caught that. See, what you don't realize is that there's so many gems that you have yet to unlock.
Starting point is 00:36:57 So you only caught one. You caught Michael. Did you catch Marvin? Did you catch the back leg pop for James Brown? Did you catch that one? I think I caught Marvin when you were shirtless. No, that was Teddy P. See, you got it all. Teddy P, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Okay. That was Bobby Brown and Teddy P. I gave a little bit of Luther Vandross in there. The piano moment was Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway. You missing them. You got to give us some of these Easter eggs now. Yeah, please. What was the Teddy P and Bobby P?
Starting point is 00:37:24 I'm delivering in all things that i do when i bring the culture of what i am and what has made me who i am everywhere i go even right now you don't even realize it's happening right now look behind them i see the picture so you saw the michael what was the teddy p um bobby brown tribute well i mean coming out my shirt was obviously a Bobby Brown moment. Teddy P was the take top. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the
Starting point is 00:39:46 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio
Starting point is 00:40:48 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 A podcast for all ages one you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on september 27th i'm going to toss it over to the host of historical records nemini to tell you all about it make sure you check it out hey y'all nemini here i'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone.
Starting point is 00:41:38 The tip of the cap is another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just, you know, just cloning and being able to have that moment. All of it is who I am, but in what I've done and who I am,
Starting point is 00:43:34 I recognize all of the people that have really paved the way. Far too often, man, do we just forget about the people that really made it happen. That was a little bit of, it was some Ron Isley in there. It was Gapman in there. You didn't catch the Gapman in Earth, Wind & Fire. You didn't get that part? No, man.
Starting point is 00:43:53 All of them was there, man. And then Jackson 5 was there. You heard that one. Can you feel it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you feel it? I, um... We would debate.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You didn't catch the Zap one? I gotta go back and watch it now now it's like if you go back it's a it's an entire education that's happening right in front of your eyes I just think we was all blown away from everything it was like a party and it was like a it was it was amazing it was so much it was what we do baby that's how we get out when we get out we debated about it a lot of people said I was being a prisoner at the moment, but I'm just talking about our first watch. My initial reaction was,
Starting point is 00:44:30 that's the best Super Bowl halftime performance I've ever seen. And so then the next day, I went through them. And even with it, I'm like, I don't see how you can't say this isn't the best. For me, the top five is you, Michael Jackson, Beyonce. I think it was the first Beyonce when she bought Destiny's Child out. Yeah, in 2013.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And Dr. Dre and Snoop. I appreciate that, Kane. We got more with Usher coming up, so don't go anywhere. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God here. Jess Hilarious is here. And Usher checked in with us, man, to all things superbowl and his marriage and all of
Starting point is 00:45:05 that good stuff his new album that's right coming home so let's talk to usher right now on the breakfast club why why didn't things work out uh with justin bieber you know what uh they did work out with justin um you know i honored and and and and recognized that my brother you know i think that it it might have been the fact that he was just you know wanting to to tell a different story right now and I understand that um but we we did have a brief conversation and um you know we're gonna do something else in the future and but there's no love lost or anything like that I think that it's a lot of pressure for the Super Bowl obviously for me to put together a show.
Starting point is 00:45:46 So I reached out to everybody. Justin wasn't the only person that I actually spoke to about doing the Super Bowl. But the moment was maybe for later. He's going to play the Super Bowl. I'll go ahead and give you that in the future. I profess that over his life and over his time because he has a career that deserves it. But it just didn't happen, but that doesn't
Starting point is 00:46:10 mean it's not going to. Was Chris Brown ever up for consideration? That was another rumor out there. No, I did not reach out to Chris Brown. Okay. Is there anybody else? There was always a rumor that you and Chris had a little kerfuffle.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Was that ever real? It's all good, man. It's actually always going to be something that you're going to hear. There ain't no issues between me and that man. We good. Okay. Is there anyone else you wanted on stage with you, but things didn't work out? I can't give you all of that, shall I?
Starting point is 00:46:42 I wish I could, but I can't give you all of that charlamagne i wish i could but i can't give you that exclusive if you hear it by the way i will confirm it but i will not okay i'm not gonna tell you everybody i reached out to i reached out to some some hitters i was okay i was curated i was curating what would be one of the greatest super bowls of all time and it actually turned into that because of who I reached out to I felt like her she is an amazing artist but even more amazing guitarist and and I wanted the world to see her as the rock star or rock rock and soul star she is and uh Alicia obviously reached out to because we had you know my boo and I wanted the world to see her as the glamorous star that she was.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I dreamt her vision. And I always saw this flowing, huge dress that would go over the entire stadium. I was like, I just got this very... I'm just real specific about handling our icons the way that they need to be handled. And we need to do that more often. We can get into the mess, that more often we we can get into
Starting point is 00:47:45 the mess yes and we can absolutely get into the mess the god you know what i'm saying but yo we got to handle our icons the right way we got to make sure we lift them up on god you understand what i'm saying yes i had a very but the way that jay reached out hold on i'll say this the way that jay reached out because he understood yo this is a moment for the culture. We have to preserve our icons in the same way. Don't let the mess bring our icons down because we don't get them back and we don't get a chance. Like we all human and we all go through things and we all want to experience things. But we got to handle our icons the right way. You know, the rock stars, they handle each other the right way.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I agree. You know know they do we don't we don't get caught up in the boy and we shouldn't let's stop that let's let's let's lift our icons up let's make certain that we keep them preserved high at the highest place in the best wardrobe on the biggest stage in the biggest moment being seen because they'll surely forget about us yeah and if you help them and if they'll surely forget about us. Yeah. And if you help them forget about us, they'll do it quicker. You know, Ari, so I just want to say I apologize.
Starting point is 00:48:55 But you said wardrobe. Whoa. What? I said I apologize. What you apologizing for? What you done said? For helping out the mess, because he talking to us. He's very intentional. He's very intentional about the stuff
Starting point is 00:49:06 that he's saying and he keeps saying mess and Jess and I understand. I apologize, Usher, but did you know Jermaine Dupri was going to wear that? Yeah, y'all didn't keep Jermaine Dupri in the highest of prestige. Absolutely we didn't. No, Jermaine knew exactly what he was wearing and you
Starting point is 00:49:21 know what? He should because that's his story and that's what's his story and that that's what's dope like the reality is the first time we saw michael in glittery socks we laughed the first time we saw prince with his cheeks out we all laughed and we thought that was funny until it became his moment that's his moment we're just looking at it that's true but it's cool y'all look at however you want i see I see something that's going to continue to grow. It's all about how you look at life, man. It's how you look at it.
Starting point is 00:49:51 No, I'll tell you, being in the dream. Just know this. Just know that you definitely have the influence to determine how people choose to look at things. Right. So frame it in the right direction because our icons matter. Yes. And that's why I said usher raymond is an icon who should always be treated as such i'm telling me in the dream had this convo and it was i don't know why it just stuck with me that night when the dream said i'm like yo the dream is right we have
Starting point is 00:50:13 to celebrate the legends that we have now i really think it's because y'all still here it sure is sure as technology becomes obsolete know, you could assume that music and the spirituality that's inside of it will, too. But it won't. It'll always be there. But why not celebrate the people, not just what they made? Let's celebrate them and let's make them feel love because they gave something they dedicated. They made you feel something. They made you fall in love. They made you happy. They made you smile. They gave gave you energy they gave you something that you needed in that moment so why not continue to lift them up that's why at every show you see me bringing the artists that i know have have been influential to my stage i ain't hiding them
Starting point is 00:50:55 i'm not trying to make them look bad i'm like no let's make them look great let's continue to lift our own people up let's lift each other. Let's continue to push each other up. Jess, you know, I stay on. You ever like, yo, do it better. Come on, do it better. Yes. Lift me up then, Usher. I got you.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'm going to keep pushing you. I'm going to make you great. You know what I'm saying? I want you to be great. That's it. That's all I want. I want greatness for our people. I want our people to make certain that we know we are great. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:25 You know what I'm saying? You know, Usher, have you seen some of your old moments, like when you was on stage with Nicki Minaj and you was headbutting her ass? Why was you so unhinged? Yeah, absolutely. Why was you so unhinged in that moment, Usher? Yo, by the way, that was Jamaican culture. See, you got to go to Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:51:39 You know what I'm saying? That was just the moment that was fun. And by the way, it was me playing my bass, so I would have probably bumped my shoulder or my hand. know what i'm saying but i had my bass in my hand so i was playing so i just kind of bopped off her body a little bit if you go back and look at the video you'll understand because i did it there the first time that was a little bit of jamaican culture oh no it was all beating everything it was all beating i was like damn i think i think i was reaching a bit when i smacked her though though. I shouldn't have smacked her, but I shouldn't have did that. See, you got to lift her up, man.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You can't be. No. I mean, I was lifting. And I always wondered, too, what was your reaction to the Boondocks episode about you, man? Because that keeps coming up. That's been coming up all week, too. Yeah. Yeah, I hate Regina about that.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They crazy. It's funny, but I guess that's the truth on the other side of what happens. That's the Usher effect, I guess. I don't know. Most talked about man ever. That is who you are. Yeah, I appreciate that. that but hey in in no way uh anything that was done there should have been uh viewed as uh bad or or in any way uh perverted or anything like that no it was literally about you know having a
Starting point is 00:52:55 having fun because of a song that me and alicia made many years ago and we celebrated because of the legacy of it on in no disrespect to anybody or anything like that. Have you and Swizz and Alicia shared a laugh about it? Absolutely, we laughed about it. It's crazy how people pick, they handle. It's all about how you present things, man. But it's all love. Shout out to the Dean Collection.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Y'all get out to Brooklyn and check out the Dean Collection this year. We got more with Usher coming up, so don't go anywhere. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Y'all can see the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God here. Jeff Hilarious is here. And Usher checked in with us, man, to talk all things Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:53:35 and his marriage and all of that good stuff. His new album. That's right, coming home. So let's talk to Usher right now on The Breakfast Club. Tell us about your Black Love in Atlanta tv show oh it's it's coming um i think that we as artists there's a price that we all have to pay in entering this industry and most of the time we either sell off our publishing or either we don't we don't retain it because it's not an option to or either we don't value it because it doesn't have value in theory but what the value
Starting point is 00:54:05 becomes is something that people have already recognized a story a song storytelling is something that i've always done so what i did is i've taken the songs of the of the masters that i don't own and i reframed them into now something that is a narrative piece that you'll be able to see so you already know what the story is and you know what the crescendo of the story is. But here's just another way of you flipping, you know, a hustler, you know what I'm saying? If you want to call it a hustle, but the reality is I own the idea,
Starting point is 00:54:35 but I don't necessarily own the IP. So why not go after some other portion of it to use it to storytelling? How does it make sense? It makes all sense. How does it feel to have coming home speaking and how does it feel to have coming home, speaking in there, how does it feel to have coming home on your own label?
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's amazing. You know, I'm really hoping that it continues to pave the way and show, you know, artists who have been in this industry for, you know, 30 plus years that no matter, you know, how long you may be in it,
Starting point is 00:55:04 you know, keep going, keep going, keep striving, find great partnerships because it's really a result of having an amazing partnership with LA and also to Larry Jackson that makes it what it is. But 30 years after signing my first deal and having now come back as an independent artist and having the type of
Starting point is 00:55:25 reaction to my music i don't take that lightly i do appreciate the love i do appreciate the fact that people you know they're gravitating towards the music that they're interested in it uh that they that it connects with their lives as it has connected to mine uh and it and i'm just it's just the next chapter and installation of my life where ruin is one of my favorite songs off the album. Oh, my God. You knew I was going to say that because I'm the one that put you on with the song. Asha, anyway, I love Ruin with Phils. And I was going to ask you, it is one of my favorite songs, but it is the one that I do my makeup to every morning.
Starting point is 00:55:59 What was that about? I'm giving you a whole book of yous and yous. I love your yous. Thank you. Who inspired that song? Am I Usher or Usher? Which one? Usher.
Starting point is 00:56:12 No, he's not Usher. He's just Usher. It's Usher. That's it. I want to know who inspired Ruin. Life inspired Ruin. The idea that we can be in relationships that, you know, can can change your perspective. You know, you can open yourself up, you know, especially for men.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know how hard it is to get my heart to open. And then when it does, you know, this one, it killed me. It pushed me back. It made me look at every woman differently until i met my daughter and then she ruined me in a different way because i'm she she's like spoiled and all the things that she should be at her three-year-old as a three-nager um she um she ruined me but you know before that the song ideally is about when you're in a relationship with somebody who you know you you try to you try to get it right and then you just can't. And it's like you just you don't look at it. You don't look at any relationship the same because of that one until you meet the one who replaces that love in your heart.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That's why I shot the video the way that I did. Yes. And that is I bet you see the video is it's a really, really nice visual. I really love it yeah the completion of that is is the joy the joy that my wife gave me and giving me my first daughter you know i love my boys don't get me wrong but every man who has a daughter he understands what what i'm saying when i say absolutely that daughters change you. I got four. They replace a love that you can't explain. That's right. When you talk about relationships, Usher,
Starting point is 00:57:50 when you talk about being in toxic relationships throughout your life, can you admit to yourself that you might have been toxic once at some point? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. And it's obviously in the music to say so, but I think that we all are a product of what experiences we had as kids and what our idea of love is and what we you know we perceive to
Starting point is 00:58:13 actually be healthy love that might not necessarily be uh access is is something that all you know people do have but you know is it better to have a ton when you really you know should really love yourself first you know all of those i mean there's i was taught to be a player you know what i'm saying i hey player from the himalayas you know i was i was killing him you know what i'm saying but um and he looked at us as he said that he's a menace man this man is a menace man yeah you know what i'm saying? And probably turned down more than I could ever choose to say. But I'm saying like to be real, toxic is something that I think we all got to individually. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed,
Starting point is 00:58:59 a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.
Starting point is 00:59:54 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
Starting point is 01:00:29 Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves, for self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat Nine months before Rosa It was called a moment Get the kids in your life excited about history
Starting point is 01:03:10 by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We work through, and I did. I did it, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:33 in a matter of about five to six years of my life. Things changed because I changed because at my 40, my 40th year changed my perspective and it made me want something more. It made me want to love myself more. It made me want to love myself more. It made me want to be a better person,
Starting point is 01:04:50 hopefully for my children so that they didn't have to be toxic in their lives. You know, but I think that all of it is, you know, kind of, you know, living and learning. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:04 You say that because I feel like when when you made that change and we didn't even know you made that change that's when it seemed like you started to get your flowers in a real way that's when things started to shift like the residency and everything started around that time so that says a lot you did the work on yourself and it came back to you in life yeah we all can we all should and uh And part of it is wanting to. That belief and unwavering commitment to what you believe in your mind, no matter what life is presenting you or what people may say about you, that doesn't matter. What you feel about you matters. What I say I am is what matters. I'm a ruler in my own mind. I'm a king and I am building a kingdom in my own mind. And that is all that matters. No matter what, what may be said, no matter what anyone could choose to say, what I say matters, what I say goes in my life. And I am the architect of my own destiny. You know what I'm saying? And that's just something you gotta,
Starting point is 01:06:04 you gotta remember. You gotta, you gotta saying? And that's just something you got to remember. You got to remind yourself of that every day, young man. Remind yourself of that every day, young lady, that you are as great as you say you are. And if you believe it, it will be. Perfect way to end, man. Usher, make sure y'all go get the Coming Home album. Make sure you go check out Usher when he hits the road this year.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yes, because I'm definitely going. Jess, I see you out there. You coming to B-More. You coming to Atlanta. We playing four in Brooklyn, just so y'all know. So y'all get over there. Well, I got to come to Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I really got to come in there. You going to bring me up on the stage? I'm just saying, D.C., Baltimore, Atlanta. I mean, Houston, Austin, Miami. But I'm from Baltimore. I got to go to the boat. You're going to bring me on stage so I can say, love you or do or do.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I got you. All right. It's Usher Raymond, y'all. Thank you for checking in, my brother. Thank you. You bringing your husband with you? I surely am. I am.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I'll be married by then, yes. I'm going to bring him with me. He want to make sure you bring your husband so he can have something extra special, spicy done to you. That's what he wants. No, he's going to lift me up. He said he's going to keep pushing me and lifting me. It's Usher Raymond.
Starting point is 01:07:15 It's The Breakfast Club. Donkey up the gate. Maybe. Damn, the hee-haw again. It's time for Donkey up the gate. You know what I mean? Who got the donkey of the day today? Well, Jeff Hilarion's donkey of the day goes to an unidentified Grubhub driver
Starting point is 01:07:32 and the man who ordered from Grubhub named Kaleeb Woods. Now, let the record show, I don't believe Grubhub is responsible for this. In fact, Grubhub released a statement that said, we took immediate action with the driver and ended his contract with us. We're following up with the customer to apologize and are coaching the representative who was previously in touch with the customer. Now, why am I leading with Grubhub's statement? I don't know. I just felt like it would make the story more intriguing.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Okay, make you wonder what did the driver do, all right? Khaleeb Woods, what did the driver do to Khaleeb Woods, all right? That Grubhub would release a statement like this. Well, if you want to know, let's go to ABC4 for the report, please. And also, we are hearing from a man who claims he ordered a milkshake
Starting point is 01:08:11 on Grubhub, but got a cup full of urine instead. Caleb Wood saying that he ordered a Chick-fil-A sandwich, fries, and a milkshake through Grubhub.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Well, when he started eating his meal, he put the straw in his cup and says he took a sip and immediately realized he had gotten a cup of warm urine. Wow. Did you confuse the cups? Because, like, this is, it's half full of pee.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Wood going on to say the driver admitted that he works long hours and doesn't take bathroom breaks, so he urinates in a cup. ABC 4 reached out to Grubhub as well for a response. And in a statement, they responded with saying in part, this is unacceptable and we have absolutely no tolerance for this or any type of misconduct on Grubhub. We took immediate action with the driver and ended his contract with us. So much to unpack here. What? First of all, let this be a lesson to all of y'all. This is why you must tip okay even though it was an honest mistake i believe by the driver this definitely
Starting point is 01:09:09 shows the amount of power these food delivery people have so y'all should be tipping all right you know the motto if you're not tipping me you end up sipping pee okay i've never heard of that i've never heard of that don't ever drip drip drip like don't do this you've never heard the motto no no you just made that up yeah've never heard of that model. And don't ever drip, drip, drip. Like, don't do this. You've never heard of the model? No, never heard of that model. No, you just made that up. Yeah, you definitely made that up. Well, since we don't know this driver's name, we should give him one. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You're good with this type of stuff. What are you thinking? What's this driver who peed in the cup's name? P. Diddy. P. Diddy. Pistol Pete. Pistol Pete. Petey Pablo Pete Petey Pablo
Starting point is 01:09:45 Petey Pablo I like that one I like that one That was a good one And Piss Brown Ooh Which one should we go with? I like all of them
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah Okay Pause Nah, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary Nor am I the strongest Avenger But the reason Kaleeb has to get some of this hee-haw too is because Khalid, you ordered a milkshake.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Now, I'm lactose intolerant, so I can't enjoy Chick-fil-A milkshakes like I used to, but I've had the cookies and cream milkshake from Chick-fil-A. I've had the peach.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Now, the one I would risk uncontrollable diarrhea for was that banana pudding milkshake. Y'all ever had that one? Ooh, that was on the menu for just a limited time. But look at God. That thing was something serious.
Starting point is 01:10:23 You hear me? Now, I'm saying all this about milkshakes for one reason and one reason only milkshakes are thicker than kindergarten pencils okay milkshakes are thicker than saucy santana in a skims body suit there is no reason for you to be sipping a yellowish colored what i would assume warm beverage from chick-fil-a you know you didn't know how to eliminate so for you to even sip that and think it was a milkshake and not know it was pee, did you not smell it first?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like this Uber driver must drink nothing but water, okay? He must have never had no asparagus in his life. The only other explanation for you mistaking pee for a milkshake was maybe, just maybe, that wasn't pee. This driver claimed he doesn't take bathroom breaks, so he just pees in cups, which I think is BS because when you're a man, the world is your toilet. We can whip out and pee anywhere.
Starting point is 01:11:06 If you looked in that cup and you saw something that was whitish in color and reminded you of a milkshake, then that might have been some cocksnack. Okay? Oh, no. That might have been some high fructose porn syrup. You hear me? Oh. Pearl Jam. All right?
Starting point is 01:11:21 Because there ain't no way. I don't even know if this is an honest mistake. Alright? P. Diddy or P.D. Pablo or Piss Brian or whatever just called him, he just happened to be peeing in a Chick-fil-A cup all day. Like, don't these drivers deliver for more than one restaurant? Yes. They do, right?
Starting point is 01:11:38 So you just happened to be peeing in a Chick-fil-A cup on the same day you was ordering Chick-fil-A to somebody? I don't know if this might have been an honest mistake. It feels pee-itated all right please give this former Grubhub driver and Khaleeb Woods the sweet sounds of the hammer tones please you are the donkey Of the day Yee-haw Envy was disgusting. He the color or your... Jay, stop it. I just got one question.
Starting point is 01:12:20 That is so rude. I'm just ignoring him. I just got one question. What? How do you know what saucy Santana looks like in a Skims outfit? Y'all don't have an imagination? I mean, come on. You don't have an imagination?
Starting point is 01:12:36 You see Saucy Santana, you know what a Skims body suit looks like. Oh, you're imagining Saucy Santana. That would make sense. That would make sense. I have a vivid imagination. I was thinking of things That were thick That wouldn't look good to you
Starting point is 01:12:47 Now come on now Saucy Santana In a Skims bodysuit Yeah It's thick Or a Dr. Who Bodysuit Dr. Who
Starting point is 01:12:55 Why it had to be Saucy Why we couldn't say Nobody else Like Gabby Sidibe Why we can't say Nobody else Why we gotta go Straight to Saucy
Starting point is 01:13:02 I don't like Objectifying women I objectify men In my old age In my old age We can't say nothing else. Why we got to go to Street to Saucy? I don't like objectifying women. I objectify men in my old age. In my old age. Alright. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building yes indeed journalist michael harriet and author welcome brother nice to meet you how you feeling political commentator a little bit of everything yeah a little bit of everything on there on this belt native of south carolina of course of course he's got a phenomenal book out man called uh called Black AF History, The Unwhitewashed Story of America. I started reading it over the holidays when I was on vacation.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And it's one of those books that I've gotten a lot through it. But you keep going back because you're going to have your highlighter. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Constantly going through it. Tell them what the book is about. The book is a look at America through black people's eyes. So we've seen books about black people through black people's eyes and
Starting point is 01:14:09 history books about America through white, through the white lens. But this is about America through black people's eyes. And it's funny, uh, you know, cause I talked to people talk, I wrote the book,
Starting point is 01:14:21 like how we talked to each other. So, you know, we could be at a funeral and we're like, Oh God, I can't believe she wore that hat that's right and so you know it uses humor it uses the way we talk to each other and it shows and it pulls no punches and unwhitewashes the mythology that we always been taught to believe since we got into social studies class you know i've always followed you on social media senior writing on the griot and of course you're very funny but when you read the book you realize damn you had to go through a lot
Starting point is 01:14:50 of trauma to get that sense of humor yeah man yeah i mean i think i think that's how we all got our sense of humor right like it's a it's a coping mechanism in a way man that's how a lot of why black people uh you know we relate to each other like that because we deal with trauma in those ways. And it's always been like that. I mean, since like, you know, that's kind of how we created. Charlie Case was the first stand up comedian. I write about it in the book. of stand-up comedy was an effort to get close to his father, who was an albino man, an albino black man, and he was a
Starting point is 01:15:31 mixed race, and his mom told him, like, you gotta live as white. And his hero was his father, so that was a way to get close to his father, because his father was a performer, and he invented stand-up comedy to kind of connect close to his father because his father was a performer and he invented stand-up comedy to kind of connect himself to his community
Starting point is 01:15:48 after he was removed from it. Such an interesting concept, right? Because when you think about black people in America, certain Jewish people have been able to assimilate by being able to change their last name and to read the story about the albino man who was able to assimilate. I'm like, that's an act of survival like why
Starting point is 01:16:06 wouldn't you in that day fan age yeah man that's what i talk a lot about that in the book because we like when we talk about for instance slave revolts we always like to talk about like how black people grab machetes and burn down the plantation but there were other ways to survive like i call the chapter is called survival and resistance so a lot of what we did was just for survival right like like for instance slowing down your work you might be mad at that slave owner but you know what's going to happen if you don't work so you might just slow down you might just run away for a few days knowing you're going to get caught but like it was like what we would call it self-care
Starting point is 01:16:45 now like i know i'm going to get caught but i'm going to die if i stay on this plantation one more date in a row and so that notion of survival is a lot on how we deal with trauma man like like a lot of times when i see like black people assimilating into like what we call popular culture or like that conservative mindset, I know like some of some of the time it's a way of survival. Now, other times you see people buy all into it. Like I used to think Tim Scott, it was survival technique for Tim Scott. And then I realized, oh, no, he he's starting to believe in night like he there was a shift because because I've talked to him before. Right. And it was it was you always got the feeling that he was a conservative, a real conservative who was in the Republican Party. But like lately, he just shift to shifted to like MAGA do like MAGA black.
Starting point is 01:17:44 You said he was embarrassing himself. You said if I think you posted a clip on your Twitter said if I send you a picture of Tim Scott, that means you're embarrassing yourself. Yeah, right. Right now. I mean, and then like I'm not one to always like perpetuate like what they call the Democratic mindset. So I would always point out that Tim Scott, for instance, was the only person for years pushing for police reform. He tried to get Republicans to pass the Walter Scott Notification Act
Starting point is 01:18:12 for years. And then something happened and then they were on the doorstep of passing police reform and Tim Scott sabotaged it because of the most powerful man in South Carolina, this sheriff called Leon Lott. Ended police reform like one powerful white dude that nobody knows in the police reform.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And Tim Scott threw Tim Scott right in. Lately, he's just like stopped being that old Tim Scott and become Maga. I wonder, I wonder about that. Right. I agree with everything you just said, but I wonder if that is him trying to survive in a Republican Party that is clearly being taken over by MAGA. But here's the thing. That would make sense if Tim Scott was somewhere like, Tim Scott is a senator from South Carolina. There is no way he's...
Starting point is 01:19:01 That's MAGA country now. But he's never going to lose if he keeps running like 98 percent of what one thing people are like, 90 percent, 8 percent of all senators when they leave the Senate, they retire. Like it's almost impossible for a sitting sitting senator to lose. And Tim Scott is in a Republican stronghold. He's never going to be challenged. He got future aspirations. What if he has future political aspirations? Is there a political future after Donald Trump? None of it makes sense because he could be Tim Scott,
Starting point is 01:19:32 the same Tim Scott he was before Donald Trump, and still have political aspirations. He might even be more popular with his party if he wasn't that MAGA dude. He bought into a specific kind of anti-black conservative ideology when he didn't have to and that like and you can see the shift
Starting point is 01:19:54 right he's not even making sense anymore he was a quiet conservative dude and now he is a donald trump mega muffin uh acolyte of that anti-black wing of the Republican Party. I agree with you. It just feels like if you're a traditional conservative like he was, the MAGA people make you look almost like you're leaning left. So I don't think he wants to look like he you know, we hear that thing about like the traditional Republicans versus the MAGA Republicans in truth. Right. The party of the Confederacy. Right. But but that MAGA thing, like it's just a little bit more anti-black, a little bit more vocally xenophobic. But it's no policy difference. Tim Scott didn't have to buy into all of that to like tim scott through his granddaddy my grandfather was an illiterate tim daddy and he wasn't it was a lie right and and he did that to buy into that republican not just a
Starting point is 01:21:00 republican ideology but that mega anti-black version of black people that is necessary to perpetuate the myth of the MAGA wing of the party. We got more with Michael Harriot talking his new book Black AF History, which is a New York Times bestseller. We got more with him when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God here.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Jess Hilarious is here. DJ Envy is off today. We're actually all off today. It's President's Day. But we have some conversations that you haven't heard, like this one right here. Jess Hilarious is here. DJ Envy is off today. We're actually all off today. It's President's Day. But we have some conversations that you haven't heard, like this one right here. My man, Michael Harriot. Michael Harriot put out a book called Black AF History. It is a New York Times bestseller. It tells the unwhitewashed story of America through the black experience. And he's here to talk about it. Michael Harriot. You know, when I get on these platforms, I've been saying the same thing, like the whole electorate is dissatisfied,
Starting point is 01:21:44 right? Like you got, you know, last yesterday I saw a poll that said Biden would lose by, I think, 40 points in a general election to Trump. And the polls are down for him with younger voters and independents and Latinos and Asians and black people. Why do you think it's just focused on black? Because you can't talk about like it turns white people off to even say the words white people you can't talk about what white people are going to do and like and then again you have to realize this goes back to the original premise of the argument is that the no's newsrooms are 92 to 94 percent white those white people don't that's not a narrative they don't even see things through that lens just like for instance the new york Times doing that thing on Travis Kelsey's haircut. Right now, as absurd as all the jokes were, right?
Starting point is 01:22:35 What it really was about is that entire chain of command was filtered through a white lens. Like there couldn't have been any black person as an editor in that newsroom who said, what do you mean popular? This haircut has been popular for a while. Now that lens is popular now for white people. I can just tell from that
Starting point is 01:22:58 that they don't see us. They don't open their eyes to see that we've had fades for... but mike you make all skinfolk and kinfolk right every you don't know about that fade yeah but they should yeah they do but what i'm saying is i don't even care about what the white people in the black people in the newsroom did right the it is a white lens to think that something is popular now because white people see it as all of this time from a white perspective absolutely i wanted to ask you something you was talking about um
Starting point is 01:23:32 you know uh when you talk about tim scott do you think black people period right when it comes to democrats are republicans is there ever any reason for us to be acting the way he acts over politicians because black democrat i'll be seeing the way he acts over politicians? Because black Democrats, I've been seeing the way these black Democrats over, act over the Democratic Party too. It all looked the same. It's all the same energy of the, I love. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this, start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I,
Starting point is 01:24:16 King of Capriburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:24:34 What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.
Starting point is 01:24:46 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those
Starting point is 01:25:06 runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run
Starting point is 01:25:41 and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 01:26:23 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best.
Starting point is 01:26:41 And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 01:26:56 This is Questlove and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And oh, did you know, I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a moment. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You like do you think there's any reason for black people to be acting like that over any politician, regardless of party? No, no, there isn't, because I but I think like what Tim, that little dance that Tim Scott. First of all, I've seen black people do that over democratic politicians. Now, like I want to be clear. But the thing about black or about black people in politics in general, man, is a lot of times we don't realize like black people have been through what?
Starting point is 01:29:57 Like 20 elections in the history of black. Like we were just able to vote like 20 presidential elections ago. Right. Like like we got we did 20 times in the history of black, like we were just able to vote like 20 presidential elections ago. Right? Like, like we got, we did 20 times in the history of black people. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And the other thing is though, that a lot of that criticism is premised on the fact that the black people in the democratic party are cool with how the democratic party has worked. Like we criticize it internally and amongst each other. Like we know that the white Democrats in the, in the democratic party has worked like we criticize it internally and amongst each other like we know that the white democrats in the in the democratic party are racist too like they ain't less racist than the white people in the republican party right like we know that and we have the same criticisms right but i don't think you have to shuck and jive like what tim scott is doing is shucking and jiving for tim scott i agree with you but i feel
Starting point is 01:30:46 like so many black people have done that too i'll give you some examples bill clinton the first black president uncle joe biden god damn what have these men done for you that you call him uncle joe and say that he's the first black president well first of all i think there's a difference right I don't I do in this sense right even though I kind of agree with you but calling Bill Clinton the first black president don't do nothing right but think about why they used to call him that because he played the saxophone
Starting point is 01:31:16 and because he used to smoke weed he was good with women it wasn't even for nothing positive I think a part of that was too like he was a southern poor dude from the from arkansas too but i agree with you like i don't i don't think it was good to call him the first black president but tim but bill clinton didn't win because black people were calling him the first black president bill clinton uh joe biden didn't win because people was calling him uncle joe tim scott is trying to help a xenophobic racist anti-black man win by dancing but he's not
Starting point is 01:31:54 gonna win because tim scott was dancing though but the attempt is and the fact that he is positioning himself because tim scott really is positioning himself to be the black to be the vp uh pick i think had a hug that's the best he gonna get but regardless of what it is right like to be a bigger part of that anti-black machine right like the person who said to uh bill clinton is the first black president wasn't part of it, didn't get a lollipop from the Democratic Party for it. They didn't become part of the machine. Same thing with Joe Biden. It was just some dumb stuff that people were saying, you know, amongst each other
Starting point is 01:32:34 and barbershops and everything. But it was Congress people who said this too. Yeah, yeah. And I again, I agree with the premise, but Tim Scott is a single person, right person right it's not we're not talking about like an ethos tim scott is a single person who is trying to use his blackness as a cudgel against black people by verifying and validating the most racist political machine in the country
Starting point is 01:33:03 you think people you think black people are politically fatigued, tired of this, tired of the selling the dreams, tired of the car sales people feel. Do you think that's going to stop a lot of people from going out? I think it might. Like one of the things that might is that at some point there is going to have to be a,
Starting point is 01:33:22 a, a reckoning with the Democratic Party and saying you have to start giving us stop giving us lip service and start doing the stuff that you say but one of the things that people say well we can't do it this year because what if Trump wins they do it every day every little my election is that tell us now now the second part of that sentence is that the difference in this time is a lot of black folks are going to say, I ain't scared. He already been president. I lived through him.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, I lived through him once. Right. So that's the danger. That's what might attract people to the council because we live through a Trump presidency. I agree that we're going to have to have a reckoning with the Democratic Party, too. Right. Because ain't nothing we can do, but I think it's wrong to equate the racism of inside the democratic party
Starting point is 01:34:12 with the points of the Republican party is white supremacy, right? Like that's, that's the goal is to keep power among white people and they weaponize it with their policies and who they attract to their coalition. We got more with Michael Harriot. He's talking his new book, Black AF History, which is a New York Times bestseller.
Starting point is 01:34:35 We got more with him when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne Tha God here. We're talking to Michael Harriot, the author of Black AF History, The Unwhitewashed Story of America.
Starting point is 01:34:52 I agree with you. I think that's Democrats' fault, though, because, you know, they have demonized, they demonize every single Republican candidate every time it's an election. And now that there's an actual real threat to democracy, a real demon, we like, please, we done heard that story before.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Right. And then the, the other side of that though, is they might can, they might be able to fight that better. If they said, Hey, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:21 that demon, we got the answer to kill that demon. That's right. Right. hey you know that demon we got the answer to kill that demon that's right right but the policies that we put forth because it's not like black people have a new agenda we've been pushing the same agenda for since like the 1979 indiana summit right we've been pushing the same agenda like that's why we kind of dismissed ice cube right because we knew that what he was saying was nothing why we want a rapper going to plead our case in the white house like we don't even want to vote for nobody who would even talk to a rapper versus somebody who would know our
Starting point is 01:35:56 agenda policy wise but you wouldn't want to vote for somebody who spoke to a rapper no what i'm saying is if you are going to make time to address black people's needs and you're going to invite someone to speak to you and see what you might be missing. If you invite Ice Cube and say, like, that's the one who I need to talk to about what black people want, then you probably just a perform person who's just trying to get votes and pander to black people. Well, that's why Ice Cube got to bring the right people with him. I mean, I feel like that's where the entertainment and the experts go hand in hand, right? Like, if I get that invite, take somebody with you, who knows what they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Well, but here's the thing, right? If you are an expert who could really talk to Ice Cube, wouldn't you have told him that, hey, this agenda already exists? Like they know about this stuff. Like it was in it. It was Tavis Smiley wrote about it. It was in the 1979 political black summit. It's the same like literally the same stuff, like the same bullet points, the same policy goals, everything. And if he had the right people around him, he would have been he would have known like, oh, I what I'll do is I'll get behind the experts who have already been pushing this agenda. Then trying to make it about not just about himself, but being mad when we didn't recognize the absolute unique genius of Ice Cube. Right. I think we're saying the same thing, though. when we didn't recognize the absolute unique genius of Ice Cube, right? Like, he went on Tucker Carlson. I think we're saying the same thing, though.
Starting point is 01:37:31 It's just like, yes, these agendas have already been out there, but I think we got to keep them in these people's faces because these people have every reason to ignore us. Right, right. But that's why Ice Cube should be saying, I am going to get behind these smart black people. Right. Because instead of saying this is my agenda that I wrote or not even just saying that it is mine. Right. Like just like Ice Cube has a lot of capital in black America. Right. He could be uplifting some of the people who have been who are scholars, who are the people who have been doing the work for years and years.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But Ice Cube said, I want to be in that room and you need to talk to me, Ice Cube. Right. And I think this there's a bit of ego in that that is to the detriment of black people. Why is that? Because let's say they did invite Ice Cube there and Ice Cube said all the right things. Like don't just perpetuate the same myth that these stupid rappers and these stupid entertainers and many of them who haven't done the work,
Starting point is 01:38:36 but they have good intentions are the representatives for black people. But what if Cube actually gets it done? Like Kim Kardashian gets things that people say she gets things done when it comes to prison reform, right? I just saw something come out of you. Right? Right? You watch that back, it's going to be so funny.
Starting point is 01:38:54 People have said that, right? People have said Donald Trump listened to Kim Kardashian before he listened to a politician. But there's women behind Kim that have actually done the work. Black women behind Kim. I can't remember the sister's name. We had them up here, too. We had them up done the work black women behind kim i can't remember the sister's name we had them up here we had them up here i'm so sorry i can't remember two black female yes yeah yeah yeah two lawyers and that is the point right like if ice cube can get you into the room i ain't got no problem with that but when ice cube was told hey you can't be in the room he switched up and would say, well, I can go talk to Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:39:28 And then he elevated the purveyor of the white genocide, the white replacement theory. Tucker Carlson went on his show when Tucker Carlson didn't even have a toehold in media. Ice Cube helped him get that, helped help him gain that audience validated his belief by saying he can't be racist because he's sitting here talking to this dude who is pushing an agenda for black people right like that is why you don't want the people who are driven by ego in the room because if they don't get in the room right he switched to the enemy side really so let me ask you a question right so the breakfast club here has had oh i gotta say their names britney k barnett and me angel cody yes so the breakfast club has had uh politicians up here that necessarily weren't on our side right
Starting point is 01:40:20 republicans here uh so what's your thought on that because a lot of people have said why do you give those republicans the platform as if they don't already have a huge platform why do you allow them up there and have the conversation cnn msnbc fox all why do you have them spew things that are not necessarily best for our community so it's it's two sides of that right like i think if you're going to have those people on you have to be equipped to counter the narrative that you know they're going to push right like a lot of times again because of ego we think that i'm equipped i'm smart enough to and it ends up being that person promoting the ideology you giving a person a platform to promote anti-black ideology or
Starting point is 01:41:00 anti-black narrative um the other thing is that just like you said they got enough platforms right like i don't necessarily disagree with the intellectual curiosity or the ability to say look i am probably what a lot of people would call progressive pro-black or whatever and my my viewpoint can stand up in the face of somebody like nikki haley or republican and i'm gonna show you that it can because i'm gonna have them in this space right i don't think there's anything wrong with that i think in this era people like confrontation over conversation because what's the point of platforming democrats because when we have democrats up here it's the same thing just from a whole other side. It's people that say all they did was lie about this. All they
Starting point is 01:41:48 did was lie about that. You didn't challenge them enough on this. You didn't challenge them enough on that. So it's literally the same thing. If you have Democrats on, you're going to have some people that are mad. You have Republicans on, you're going to have people that are mad. There's not one politician I've ever seen come on. Maybe one or two that actually made people be like, oh,
Starting point is 01:42:04 what they said was actually interesting. That's kind of how you know you on the right path if you in media. Right. Like if you if both sides are upset by something you did, then you probably kind of were fair. Right. Like is I call it like my Dr. Umar thing. Like Dr. Umar don't like me because I've been critical of him. You have a white wife? Huh? No. Oh, hell no. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Love who you love. But no. But Dr. Umar was mad at me because I was critical of him, like how he raised money and some of the stuff he said about gay people. people and the reason people know that dr umar is dr umar is because i did journalism and actually validated his phd so and people got mad at you for that and people was mad at me the dr umar haters was mad at me because you validated him and what i'm what i'm trying to do is be fair right and so if both sides are kind of mad at you you probably know you were doing the right thing and you were at least fair. I'm on all social media as M.I.C.H. A.E.L. H.A.R.R.I.O.T. I write weekly. Well, three times a week for the Griot and have the Griot Daily podcast where I talk about the same stuff we're talking about here.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Not with guests. It's just me explaining stuff. So the Griot Daily Podcast where I talk about the same stuff we're talking about here. Not with guests. It's just me explaining stuff. So the Griot Daily Podcast. You can find me on social media under my name on all platforms. Michael Harris, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for a positive note. What we got? I do, man. I have a positive note, and it's really simple. Normalize talking highly about yourself.
Starting point is 01:43:53 No small talk to self, okay? Normalize talking highly about yourself. You deserve it. Breakfast Club, bitches! Y'all finished or y'all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.
Starting point is 01:44:08 This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 01:44:20 Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests
Starting point is 01:44:54 and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself.
Starting point is 01:45:24 It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series,
Starting point is 01:45:49 Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audio books while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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