The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Inspirational - Pastor Mike Todd, Ty Tribbett, Sarah Jakes Roberts + More

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

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All right, so don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club, good morning. Breakfast Club! Breakfast Club! It's your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. So you better have the same energy. We wanna hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Lauren from New York. Hey Lauren, good morning. Get it off your chest, Lauren. Okay, basically I'm calling because I'm very upset. I met someone, I felt like he was the love of my life after a year. And then one morning, Ice just came and took him away from my house

and I have never heard from him again, so. Is that Ice? Ice. I'm a little piffy. Yeah, Ice. Where's he from? He was Mexican? No, Jamaican. Oh, he was Jamaican. So, well, little piffy. Yeah ice. Where's he from? He was Mexican? No Jamaican. Oh he was Jamaican. So he didn't have his papers though? Um no I mean I guess I think he did he had a whole lot here. I'm not sure what the issue is. If ice came to get him he had his papers right.

He was trying to marry you to get that green card. Oh my god oh god I'm just been in shock. I've been very upset like they took my baby like Huh go to Jamaica Are you sure they took him or he might have just been over you and had some people come over and I pretend to be I mmm no They took him they came after him like he owes something to the devil the himself They threw him on the ground and call him on type of name and you can't find away and you can't find no I don't know. Nope. Nope. What's his name? Well, you ain't trying to find right? You don't care about that man. Oh, wow. That's pretty you don't want to move to Jamaica

You don't want to shout him out over the radio. I'm trying to find him. I need say move I just said go damn she like now you she said the man is married though I need to understand what he did first before I'm just Going over there like I don't even know what he did. That's your baby. I know it's one day They your baby the next day they something else. I don't even know what he did. But that's your baby. I know. One day they your baby, the next day they something else. I don't know. You were fine. We were fine.

Goodbye, Lauren. She just woke up thinking about him. Hello, who's this? Yes, sir. It's J.A. from N.E. He's J.A. Get it off your chest. So interesting enough, I get through every time

I call you guys every week. And Charlamagne shows love, generally, sometimes. But DJ N.B. I call you guys every week and Charlamagne shows love Yeah, some time it but DJ envy hangs up on me every week and today gotta stop. I agree with you So I just need him to work on his attitude. That's it. That's all I need to say Might have been God testing you you know, no, it's not he's still there That might have been God a great day. You have a great week, okay? Exactly you hung up on that man Testing you and you failed he was right there. He wanted to get back. He wasn't a good day

You wouldn't have on me to I we even job hello. Who's this? Yo, what's happening? It's your boy John man What up envy Charlemagne? The garden beautiful chest. Good morning. What's happening? Man, I gotta get off my chest man. Listen, I just got off at six o'clock, right? I'm trying to go to McDonald's and get me a nice fresh hot sausage and cheese McMuffin pause These mother got the nerve to have an attitude because they lay I pulled it be open at six o'clock It's six tens y'all ain't open up yet Then we gotta wait two three minutes and we short staff and all that. Yo, listen, it's not my problem, but you my goddamn Good. Hey, well, that's not the attitude. I understand but that's not the attitude to have everybody's a little probably a little stressed out this morning

Okay Yeah But they still have to be able to maintain a level of professionalism because the customer is never always is never wrong I don't believe it but not in this case This same thing happened yesterday It was late opening up yesterday bro Where's McDonald's at? What city? I order the same McMuffin every morning when I get off at 6 man It's nothing boy

Where you from bro? I'm in Georgia man I hate to say I'm in Georgia I'm from New York I'm from Brooklyn so you can't understand my pain man I'm in Georgia with this bulls**t No f**k you can't understand your pain but I'll tell you one thing Man is a take you where money won't So your pain, but I'll tell you one thing, manners will take you where money won't. So if you just, you know, especially if you go there all the time and you a nice person,

they'll probably be happy to see you coming. Pause. And I know it just might trigger just cause you used to work there. No, no, no. Follow me on Instagram, man. Rich fatherhood. Did you ever have this problem when you worked at McDonald's?

Why do we tell people to get it off their chest if you always got something to say when they getting it off? Get it off your chest. 800 five eight five one oh five one if you need to vent let's discuss is the breakfast logo morning the breakfast club This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed We want to hear from you on the breakfast club Hello, who's this? What up, Ted you said Ted yeah

Okay, Ted Ted Ted isn't teddy. Yeah. I'm trying to get off my feet. Big ass dicks out here making it hard for the real dicks. That's why I say it ain't a stereotype if it's true, because I knew something was up. I was about to ask you what do you identify as, but I was going to mind my business this morning, but you let the world know. Oh, no. Oh, definitely.

I identify as a woman. Hey, what's a fake dick? I'm a stud. You're a stud, though? Yeah, I'm a stud. I'm a dude in the radio show. What's a fake? Fake that would be something that you would call a

Kind of like double-sinner. It's cut. We already sitting out here anyway Don't be doing but it's like you are you are so that you have a sex with me and on the low You made it hard for us. The real was out here. You can't be by stud No, you can't be by You can't be bi-stud? Nah, you can't be bi-stud. That ain't how we rollin'. That's triple-sinnin' now. Triple-sinnin'? What's the sin? I don't get what the sin is. I'm lost.

We already double-sinnin'. They already say we're sinnin' by bein' what we are. So you want people, you want the real studs of the world to just sway off They can't have no penis whatsoever? No, no, nothing, man. Just go vegan. Give you that all. Go vegan. Jesus Christ. Wouldn't that be pescatarian though? No, not even.

Cause it's fish. Y'all eat fish? Yeah, we're gonna eat some fish, but you know the human body ain't fish. I hope they ain't eat fish. Okay. He wasn't talking. You know what?

Nevermind. All right Ted, you have a good one, all right? Yeah, I do baby. That's right. Y'all listen to Ted, man. All y'all studs out there, stopaking the funk. All right leading penises alone Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Cliff. Cliff what up? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I went to the boxing gym a few days ago

I don't know how I left. Oh somebody put you on your ass. You don't know how you left somebody knocked you out I don't know how I left the boxing gym. I don't know how I left. Hey, you don't play boxing, bruh, bruh. Mm-mm. We got Willie D in here. Willie D is a, what is it, Willie? What is it, you said Golden Glove, right? Golden Glove, yeah.

That's what's up, yeah, but I don't know how I left, though. Maybe you shouldn't go back then. All right. Maybe you shouldn't be boxing. How long you been training? I've been just doing a sparring here sparring. I never really trained with it. There's your problem. See that's the problem. People just want to jump in and go in the gym and just start sparring.

There's more to that. Right. You're right. Yeah. You got hit in the nose. I don't know what he got hit in it, but his phone ain't even there no more. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent hit us up now it's the Breakfast Club good morning Rudolph the Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose raised his head Had a very shiny nose

And if you ever saw him He would even say it close Come on! Come on! Breakfast Club bitches! Morning everybody it's DJ Envy, Charlamagne the guy We are the Breakfast Club we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We have Pastor Mike Todd. Welcome brother. What's going on fam? How you feeling? Yes. Man, I'm blessed man. I'm at the Breakfast Club. Hey. Good y'all. I'm blessed black and highly favored. You are definitely black, blessed and highly favored. I feel like all of us are blessed black and highly favored. Absolutely. Feels good. Thank y'all for having me man. Happy to have you man new book damage, but not destroyed from trauma to triumph Yes, sir. Powerful title, bro. It's my life. Okay, and it's honestly

I believe a lot of people's life that they don't share Mm-hmm you know you see everybody from people who go from the gutter to This big platform or people who've just made it out of the hood or just made it from where they thought they would never come but Then they shut up and stop telling the actual story about how they got from where they were to where they are now I have a theory about that. What what is it? I think the theory now like I'm 45 years old So you look so grown. Thank you, brother. So growing up, you know, it was those stories of overcoming those stories of making mistakes and you know becoming a better person that we always gravitated towards that we learned from

Nowadays because of this so-called cancel culture. Yeah, nobody wants to talk about the mistakes that they made Yeah, nobody because they feel like they'll be judged for them and crucified for them, which they probably will Well, but it's temporary like the truth of the matter is um Because I'm a person of faith. I believe the truth of the matter is though we overcome by the blood of the lamb that's what Christ says to them but the words of our own testimony. Even if you don't believe what I believe the truth is when you see somebody else go through something and you make it through it, it gives you courage, it gives you hope, it gives you dang, maybe I can do that too and a lot of people are robbing other people of the fuel

that they need to overcome their actual situation because they scared number one and number two is Because they feel like maybe my worst moment defined me, but I found that in my worst moment That's who that's what made me absolutely and so I just wanted to come like completely clean completely raw I say hot humble open and transparent and I mean it takes also the power out of what anybody can ever say about me I used to I know I believe you I agree with everything you say I always say live your truth So nobody can use your truth against you. Well boy, they will try they'll try The truth of the matter is but if it's real like when you cut it open and it's real and you actually grew from it And you actually learn from the cheating and you actually did the work and went to therapy and you actually, yeah, no, I did embezzle that money but I'm not

going to do that never again. When you actually grow, I believe that this life is about progression not perfection. And on the gram and in front of people, we're always trying to present perfection. But I really believe when you cut it all down, it's one baby step in front of another baby step in front of another baby step in front of another baby step And you look up and like how did I get here? It was a bunch of small moments that got you to this How important is a support system right cuz yeah came came with your wife Charlamagne's been with his wife 25 I've been with my wife 30 how important is that because a lot of times you hear people say I don't need that

I'm looking for a guy that's gonna make this much money, but that's't never talk about the heart the truth of the matter is dumb. Yeah, thank you Please say that loud. It's dumb. Like I tell people all the time I did a book my first book was called relationship goals and I have this whole chapter in the book about rip up your list Mm-hmm, and I know people are gonna say whatever they gonna say about they got this list. You're still single the truth gonna say whatever they gonna say about they got this list you're still single the truth of the matter is the truth of the matter is is a lot of times God never hands you a finished product he hands you something you got to work right and and that's why IKEA is one of the greatest furniture companies no matter what you think about it is they they give you something that you have to

put your hands to to assemble and it gives people another greater level of satisfaction because when they actually put their hands to to assemble. And it gives people another greater level of satisfaction because when they actually put their hands in to help make that thing happen, it feels like I've accomplished something. Relationship is the same way. God never, T.D. Jakes says it, God never gives you a table, he gives you a tree.

The same thing with the relationship. And so I think many times people need to rip up their list and actually look for the things that are in the heart. You can't Instagram integrity. You can't Facebook faithfulness. And so look at my man, he da da da. The greatest things that have made me and my wife's relationship work, I cannot show you on a post.

It has to be lived out, proved out and over time. And so when you say support system, bro, that is literally the only reason I'm here right now is because I got people who could see me at my worst and still think of me in my best situation to steal like while it still smells like that word that you said just a second ago they still walk in with me and like I'll actually be with you because I know it's not gonna be like this the whole time I tell people people community is everything. Having mentors is everything. Being around people that are further than you is everything. And if you're going to deal with your damage, you need that.

Cause a lot of people do it in isolation and COVID has really jacked up people. And when I say that, I'm not even talking from a health standpoint, physically, I'm talking about a mental health standpoint, a spiritual health standpoint, a relational health standpoint, people went into their caves, and started spectating on what everybody was doing. And it made them look out instead of looking. What was your breakthrough moment that inspired you to be so vulnerable in this book?

Bro, I have a son, our second son, his name is MJ, my name say he has autism autism and me and my wife we're going through the height of our ministry and our business is growing and everything's exploding. My first book goes number one New York Times bestseller. I barely graduated English class like I'm in a shock and then our only son we take him to the doctor and they're like yeah he's not progressing normally, he's not talking, he's not progressing normally. He's not talking He's not looking anymore and he was going the right way and then just something switched and my motor has always been let me be greater

Let me be better. Let me make more money Let me do this and I tried to do everything I knew how to do and it didn't fix nothing Getting a bigger platform writing another book making more money. It didn't do anything. and so when my motor broke it was like what's going on I'm watching my wife slip into depression Nothing nothing is working and so I was like, hold on. We got to start working on this I was sitting with my mentor Tim Ross at a crackle barrel outside of Oklahoma City And I was just telling them what I was going through and we started thinking about back over my life and he said yeah He's like, yeah, when did God's standard

Become lower than your standard and I was like, what are you talking about? He was like Michael you've been telling me all this stuff You want to make better and you want it to be great you keep using this word great great great great He said but in the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth he looked at it He said is good and then he created the stars and he created the land and said uh uh-uh, you go right here, you go right here, created the animals, going through the whole creation. He said, it's good. Then he created man on the sixth day and he said, you know what, that's very good. He said, if God's standard is good, why is yours great? Then he asked me this question. He said, when did you make a decision that good was not good enough? And immediately

I went back to 12 years old when I'm in church. My parents raised us in church and I played drums since I was young and I would go at 12 years old to the choir rehearsal because my dream was to play in big church like play with the big choir like not the youth for the junior I wanted to play and I was good and I would go every Tuesday only 12 year old there and they would never let me play. They would tell me I was great they would tell me that man you getting so good pinch my cheeks take all the little stuff But they would never let me play they probably had a legitimate reason But I remember sitting on that that maroon chair in the back and deciding I guess good is not good enough

I will only be great and what ended up happening from 12 years old to 35 years old I would not settle for anything good. And now I'm looking at my son and he's not good. And I couldn't rationalize or reconcile what was going on in me. And God was like, you're going to have to become okay with things being good. And I had to go and heal that 12 year old Michael to be able to even raise the 35 year old Michael and raise his son And bro, I went on a journey bro and man because I went on this healing journey because I spent the money Everybody done my vest and property. You're the only thing that is priceless. That's why I always say invest in your mental

Well, why won't you invest in yourself? Right, you have to start from someplace you got us, but that's why I went first DJ envy This is why I wrote this book. This may not be my most popular book But it's my most valuable book because if anybody actually reads this they're gonna be like dang I can see myself and maybe I'll take the first Step right. All right. We got more with pastor Mike Todd when we come back don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning Breakfast Club club good morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep we're back it's The Breakfast Club and Pastor Mike Todd is here his book

Damage but not destroyed from trauma to triumph is out right now. What are untransferred wounds? The truth of the matter is every wound that you get has the ability to transfer to somebody else in your actions or in your non-actions and that's why I said earlier what's not transformed is transferred. You got a lot of your mom and daddy in you that they didn't give you directly. They gave it to you because you received it. The way that you handle issues, the way that you go through stuff, we got a lot of stuff because they didn't handle it. I

give a prime example, I tell it in in the book I had a pornography addiction. I mean jacked up taking my money my mind my focus your money Oh, bro, one of us free. Yeah back in the day, you know, okay, come on now I act like you didn't 399 sometimes come on now and if he was buying magazines or if you doing any of that Come on, let's be honest. It was robbing me and the money was the least part of it Well, I'm going through this whole thing by myself or if you're doing any of that, come on, let's be honest. It was robbing me and the money was the least part of it. Well, I'm going through this whole thing by myself. I'm suffering, still trying to pray, still trying to love God, still trying to,

and if somebody's like, the pastor, I tell it every Sunday, don't even trip, because we out here, every man is actually struggling with something, okay? I'm out here addicted, trying to do what I've been called to do. After I actually start going through the process of healing and making decisions and making disciplines and being accountable and all this other stuff, I found out my dad, he was

a drum major for Gremlin State University and they came to New York. There was a street back in the day, now this is back back in the day, where they had peep shows down the whole street. That's 42nd Street. Okay, so he know the street. 42nd Street. And he said back in the day, they got here on the bus and he said he got a pocket full of quarters and you could go and you could put the money in the machine and then the

curtain would open and you see naked women. Back in the day, that was the equivalent of pornography. He said after I told him what I was going through, he said, Mike, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I never told you about it. I'm sorry. I never dealt with it publicly. I'm sorry that I did this.

He said, because I had five sons and every single one of my brothers and me dealt with the sexual addiction because what was not transformed in him was transferred into us. Do you get counseling from other pastors? Yeah, definitely people who've been in the game a lot longer than me. Like has TD Jakes, you and TD Jakes? Yeah man, we had an awesome meeting

for probably about five hours at a restaurant. TD Jakes, he's like the OG of OGs. Love you, dude. So we met and it was like in this secret building that was unmarked and we went up and like you hit the floor and it's like a restaurant I'm like where am I as like me with the Godfather, you know what I'm saying? Yeah and I'm like what is going on and that man just begin to pour into me I love TD Jakes. I love him too. As just

somebody who talks even more than preaching. If you ever get to just talk to him, that mentorship, mentorship from Tim Ross, mentorship from Robert Morris, mentorship from Steven Furtick, mentorship from all, like, it's invaluable what you learn from people who've been damaged. It's invaluable what you can learn from somebody who will share from their damage.

And that's what all of those men did like if I think About it right now like I'm thinking you call it mentoring But all mentor mentoring it really is is people showing you where they messed up where they should have done it differently Sharing from their damage and it helps push you into your desk. Was this after the spit incident? No, bro. That was before okay The spit hits the fan. That's what I call it. Spit Hits the Fan, cause I felt- Well, break it down, people don't know, I know we reported a long time ago. First off, let me say this, I am not a regular preacher.

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When I say a regular preacher, like, I was bored in church. And so when God called me to preach, I was like, all right, I'm gonna actually use everything that I have to help people get it. And so I tell stories, I use examples, and honestly, I'm doing everything how Virgil Abloh said for my 17 year old self. Most 17 year olds, they don't care nothing about church. They trying to see the girl with the booty and go eat and go play with it.

So I'm trying to like capture. So I've always used examples and stuff like that. And so there's this story in the Bible where Jesus basically heals a man by spitting on his hand and putting on his face. And so this is an example I had done three times before. And this is what my blood little brother, this is not some random audience member or anything like this. Now, this is a brother we fought blood, but like this is with my blood little brother. This is not some random audience member or anything like this. Now this is a brother we fought blood but like this is my little brother and he wanted to do the example with me so I could show it and the whole idea was many people will not be willing to go through a messy process to get their healing. So the idea was this man was blind, he wasn't deaf. So if Jesus is about to spit,

he's standing there in front of Jesus and he can hear. Like if you hear somebody about to huckle-ooey you're like oh my god. And I was trying to say as disgusting as this is, that man stayed there and he received something that nobody else could give him. And as I was saying that I said maybe you, the counseling would be messy for you you maybe apologizing would be messing for you maybe downsizing your house would be messy for you after you've put on this whole thing about how God blessed you but what if on the other side of this mess was your healing and I did the example it worked too well and by that night we was on DMZ CNN next, next morning, Breakfast Club, all that other stuff. And it was, somebody was saying to me the other day,

they was like, do you wish it wouldn't have happened? I was like, honestly, no. It shocked me. But what I had to deal with internally, and what I had to become okay with inside of me, because of that situation, it made me into a man that I would have never met had it not happened. It changed my whole view of who I was called to reach and how much I needed anybody's applause. Damaged but not destroyed. What do you hope

people get from this book man? I believe that if you read this book and actually do the work that's in here I tell people this all the time it may not have been your fault what happened to you, but it is now your responsibility. It's time to do the work. And I'm just here to say, I've had to do the work in front of people. Like, with hundreds of thousand people watching me,

judging me, all this stuff, you can do this work. That's right. No matter where you are, how much money you have, what your family thinks about it, you will become a different person that will be able to actually be a blessing to other people. The healed version of you is better than the version of you that you have right now.

I dedicated this book to my great grandkids. Like in the dedication, now my oldest daughter's 10th, and I dedicated it because the Bible says a good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children And yes, I want to leave them houses. Yes. I want to leave them investments, but I want to leave them emotional health I pray one day my grandson picks this book up and is able to say my grandpapa dealt with his stuff and I know I'm struggling right now because life be life and dealt with his stuff and I know I'm struggling right now because life be life and everybody's gonna go through it. But God be God.

But God be God and therapy be therapy. And that's why the back of it, it's a double cover. The front is me smiling, that's the triumph. But the back of it is me, my dad, my four brothers and my son. This is a picture of all of us. It looks like me but it's all of us. Because your damage affects every person you say you love.

So if you wanna do the work, join me. Damage but not destroy. Let's leave it on the prayer break. You want me to pray for you? Of course. Let's do it. Father, we just thank you for this opportunity to be here, to be in this moment, to be with you,

for everybody listening and with my four brothers in the room. I thank you, Father everybody listening, and with my four brothers in the room, I thank you Father that something was said here that sparks their faith to believe that you can help them deal with their damage. God, we got different relationships, different responsibilities, different pains, different hurts, but God, you know them all.

I thank you that by faith, something is about to change on the inside of every person under the sound of my voice. Bring back a moment, a memory, a reason why they need to make this step and I thank you that no matter what has happened to them, no matter how bad or how good, I thank you that you can take our trauma and you can turn it into triumph. You can take our pain and you can turn it into platform. Father, I thank you for all the people who are damaged but not destroyed. Bless them is my prayer.

In Jesus' name we agree. Amen. Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, Pastor Mike Todd. We appreciate you, brother. I appreciate y'all. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

We are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us, Big Mac, one of our producers up here, you know him from Wild N Out, he got pretty upset. And that's because Jess Hilarious, our very own Jess Hilarious, had a baby shower and didn't invite him. And he's mentioned it several times and he's pretty upset about it. He's even said that you guys shoot skits together, you guys do the eating videos with each other and he was pretty hurt about it. I'm going to be honest with you, all of those things are things that it feels like Jess

Hilarious is forced to do because Jess is going regardless because she pregnant you know what I mean so I think Mac is using her as an excuse to eat more and the skit thing is all about showing stomachs oh so Jess is showing her stomach for nine months after nine months you're not gonna have a stomach Mac Mac has had that stomach, phew, at least 30 years. At least 30, how long, he was an intern up here, how long ago? About like 15, 14 years ago. 15 years ago, so I'm gonna say he had that stomach

for 30 years. So whose stomach you gonna, who you gonna do that with when Jess gone, Mac? He's not gonna go with me, he's not going, he not even, we not even gonna be thinking about doing them skits some way after I come back. So Jess, how come you didn't invite Mac? Just because. Just because.

I don't see the problem. For real, y'all know I am not a good liar. I just know. Just because. You ain't think of him. That's the reality of it. You ain't think of him. Just because.

Jess told me about the baby shower two months ago. And I knew I was gonna be out the country anyway so I couldn't attend. So she didn't want Mac there, that's fine. And it's not even that she didn't not want Mac there. She just wasn't thinking about Mac. Don't let her speak for herself. Maybe she didn't want Mac there.

But that's what it was, no, it's not that I didn't want Mac there, first of all, people love Mac. A lot of people love Mac and they all know Mac. My family know Mac too but no. That's just it. Like what is wrong with it? It wasn't enough food. And I even invited your boy here that's two in the U.N. Come you went in Africa. I was, I had a show. I was out of town. I was in Columbia, South Carolina. Somebody just called.

You was not in Columbia on the 4th. On Saturday. On the 6th. The 6th. Whatever day that was. Yeah I was. I was on the Saturday I was this yeah, all right then cool. All right, so it is what it is, but Back to me. I will see you when I get back boo. Yeah, Jaleesa Hey, Jaleesa, Jaleesa, good morning, man. Good morning, envy. Good morning. Yes. Congratulations Thank you, babe.

Jaleesa, do you have coworkers like that? Yes, I've had multiple. They think they should be invited to everything. And I made the mistake before and became really close to my coworker and it didn't work out. I ended up having to get into a fistfight with one. Did you win? Damn. Because, listen, I'm Jamaican. I don't play the way. I ended up having to get into a fist fight with one. Did you win? Damn. Because, listen, I'm Jamaican, I don't play the way.

I ain't ask you that, I ask you did you win. Uh oh. Yes I did, yes I did. Okay. But yeah, so you can't mix business with, you know. Personal. Your personal life. Not on a level, you know what I'm saying?

So you got into a fist fight with a stud you was dating on your job. Jesus. Oh my God. Stop. Tell the truth. No. Tell the truth.

No, I did it. No, I did it. I can hear it in her voice. She don't want to admit it because she Jamaican. No, I'm talking. Bouty girl. Bouty girl. Damn it, man.

Bianca. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's up? Good morning. Now, Bianca, this says your coworkers be having parties and nobody be inviting you. He's so good. Yeah, what's up y'all? What's up? Good morning. What's up boo? Now Bianca, this says your coworkers be having parties and nobody be inviting you. Yeah, they gonna be inviting me. Like, they be fucking about, oh we not inviting her because basically I'm the new girl there.

But they be thinking like, it bothers me. I don't want to deal with y'all. Y'all old like 40 and up. Watch your mouth. How old are you? I'm 30, but. You want to go because if you didn't want to go you wouldn't be here. 40 and up. Watch your mouth. How old are you? I'm 30, but... You want to go because if you didn't want to go you wouldn't be mentioning it.

You would've called. You lying. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I like being a homebody. You lying. You want to go hit the electric slide with them old heads one time. Yes you do.

You lying your ass off. I'm just trying to be with the young kids. I've been doing the hips with the young kids. Where you from? I'm from Harlem. Oh, okay. You lying your ass off. I was just trying to be with the young kids. I've been doing the hips with the young kids. Where you from? I'm from Harlem. Oh, okay, okay. Well.

Yeah, so we be doing the little hips and stuff like that. My kids be laughing at me. Well, I hope that your co-workers continue not to invite you. I hope so too, because I'm going to be having my own party and my kids. She heard. Whenever you hear something, I'm going to have my own party. That's what Mac is going to say next, I'm going to have my own baby shower. I got a stomach. No, exactly. I look pregnant.

Goodbye Janine. Bye. 800-585-1051. If you just joined us, Big Mac, one of our producer up here, was very upset that he didn't get invited to Jess Hilarious birthday party. Not birthday party, baby shower. Baby shower. It was actually Chris birthday party because it was Chris birthday too.

Chris the cancer? Yeah Chris the cancer in July 6th. Go ahead Chris. But you didn't even mention that you invited other people up here but just not him. What is you talking about? Like yo Five eight five one. Oh five one. Do you have a co-worker that invites everybody but you to your party? Is it just you let's talk about it. It's the breakfast. Oh you changed it The breakfast club Morning everybody is DJ and we just Larry show me the guy we are the breakfast club

We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. Hey, what up? Tide Tribute. Welcome brother. What's up? Thanks for having me. What's up? How y'all feeling? Peace. Congratulations. You just won a Grammy 2024 Grammy for best gospel album. So congratulations.

Thank you. That's three in total. Yeah, three in total, man. I'm so hype about that and excited. You know, I didn't, uh, it wasn't needed but it's appreciated. Do you pray for stuff like that? No, I used to. Okay okay. I used to but I had to get my you know the reason why I do what I do I had to get that in order. Intention. Yeah intention exactly. Last year I was nominated for two Grammys and I just knew I was gonna walk away with at least one and when I walked away with

none it was like a soul check for me like all right well why do you do what you do bro? You got to just just kind of re-eval of that stuff. So I kind of like, stop needing it or stop wanting it so bad and stop so ambitiously going for it. Just stick to the reason why I do what I do, have fun doing it, bless the people, show love, give them Christ, and this year when I walked away with it, yo, we literally sat like in the back, because the Gospels, they don't present the Gospel on the Grammys. We got the pre-awards. They could do ours like nine o'clock in the morning, you know what I'm saying. Had to wake up early and we went to the pre-show and it's open seating there so you can sit anywhere you want. So my manager like, yo come

on let's go to the front bro. I'm like, nah man, I'm just gonna sit back here, we're gonna take a L. I don't like that long walk of shame, it's too far. So let's just stay close to the exit. So we was in the back chilling, I got it all on video and They called in everybody's name of course when they called my name. I was like Yeah, cuz I was really could say I had to learn really come just to be content Yeah, because you know a bit overly ambitious is robs you of gratitude They just get out and feel like going down that rabbit hole so just love what I do make You have to take that long walk up to the stage I was running like oh my goodness trying to

figure out what I'm gonna say on the way because I literally didn't expect to win but you know I was gonna be there to show them how to be a good sore loser in Christ. I want to ask you, being a gospel singer do you feel like it's a lot of pressure on you where it's almost like people look at your life differently right like it's almost like they want you to be perfect. Do you have a hard time dealing with that? I dealt with that before I became a gospel artist. So speaking of growing up in this small church, my grandmother was the pastor first. My dad was on the organ. I'm watching

him every Sunday like, oh my God, this guy is amazing. I start playing then he became the pastor so I got that pressure as a PK the perfection There's all of that all of that I got all of that pressure as a young kid like 12 9 when I was since I was since I've been born Spotlights been on me to be the poster child for what Christ is. I'm like, yo And path to kids be the worst Why you? They do Path to kids be the worst. Why you? They do. Past the kids be the worst.

Because of the pressure though. Because of the pressure. The pressure leads you to a life of crime. Damn. Too much handcuffs leads to rebellion man. You know what I mean? That legalism and that religious structure it leads to like yo I'm not cut out for this I didn't sign up for this y'all sign up for this and the expectation is too much for me Yo, so I just rebel people go completely opposite of the ways that their parents bring them up when you bring them up too strict I came up the same way. I had the pressure of perfection and I tried to live up to it until My parents got a divorce and I'm like wow in my day that was like, you know, it's normal now every day it happens every day back then it was like a culture shock for me it shattered my whole world I was like bump the church then what I'm doing here why am I being

in favor to God and here man my dad I'm out you know I'm saying that's when I went to all the clubs did all that stuff I didn't dance though I just played at all the clubs I didn't you know I still didn't drink didn't smoke just I just went and played the keyboard at all the clubs for like Music Soul, Child Jill, Scott, everybody in the Philadelphia area, the roots and all that stuff. So I'm in there playing hymns to the beats. They don't even know what I'm doing. But I kind of had my little rebellious moment during that time just to find out who I am outside of y'all expectations, man. Outside of who y'all saying God is to me. Let me find him for myself.

Let me figure out who I am for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing and I've been walking in that sense. Did a lot of those triggers resurface in your marriage when you got separated? Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. When me and my wife separated, it was bad, yo. It was very, very bad for me

because I didn't think my whole thing, when my father messed up with my dad, I'm like, I ain't never gonna be my dad. I'm never gonna be like him I'm never gonna do that So I went the pride way so my heart just really was like You know what I mean? I got more exposure than he ever got I got more notoriety He ever got and I'm still ain't gonna do what he did I'm still man that pride comes before a fall and I fell hard and I moved to LA my wife was in Jersey we just separated

I didn't think we would ever you know get back together again I was just out there working on me she was out there she was out there working on her not really trying to get the marriage back together and I think when you try to do that too soon sometimes you you damage you know you damage it because you just your point is just to try to get them get back together but not work on you because you still got stuff you got to work on I still have stuff I had to work on I still had weaknesses I had to work on and so I'm out there working on me she's working on her I'm praying she's praying and God kind of brought our hearts back together but through

that whole time I realized my mortality I realized my humanism I realized my weaknesses I realized who I was for real like this religious Perspective I became that like like now I'm a pastor right, but I don't say I'm a pastor I'm just I'm just a child of God with an assignment. You understand what I'm saying? I'm a child of God who got something to say to a certain group of people. I don't become my assignment You understand what I'm saying? But that's the world today I'll if I were to meet you in the street The first thing I'll say is what do you do not who are you you understand what I'm saying? But that's the world today. If I were to meet you in the street, the first thing I would say is, what do you do?

Not who are you? You understand what I'm saying? And I think we lose who we are and what we do. And that's what I did. I got lost in all of that and I forgot who I was. I think you and your whole situation is just a testament to the glory of God. You and your wife are together now, right?

Yeah, she's right here right behind me, man. Oh, fighting! I'm shantain the building. How you good girl? And she survived the car? Y'all been through a lot. Yeah a whole lot. It seemed like a series of unfortunate events you know what I'm saying and her life I mean it just it just starts from I was gonna say it starts from birth everybody's life life starts from birth. But with growing up with parents like I had and she was basically fatherless for a long period of time, you grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs. You know what I mean? You have needs as a child

that you should have met, that you don't have met. Security, protection, encouragement, validation, all of these things, affection, we have to grow up without that right? So now we got to make the choice of either like living without it or killing the desire period So now we commit what we call my man Tim Fletcher calls soul suicide So you commit soul suicide because as a child a three-year-old I need affection I don't know I need it, but naturally I need it if I don't get it I just killed a desire for it so now I'm in a relationship and I don't know how to be affectionate. You understand what I'm saying? I got kids and I don't

know how to show that because I've been killed that so now we're trying to like restore those things and and trying to do it in the context of marriage. I married her at 18 I was 21 so that's a that's a kid those are kids when I look at them ages now I'm like man I was a kid that's a really little a kid those are kids when I look at them ages now I'm like man. I was a kid that's a really little kid Huh, how long y'all been together? 28 now. Yeah, that's 28 years. Yeah, my wife 26. Oh, I mean his wife All right, we got more with Todd tribute when we come back don't move is the breakfast club good morning when we come back, don't move, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning everybody, it's EJ, Envy, Jess, Larry, Shalem and the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ty Trippett. Now, it seems like for a while, maybe the last 10 years, it seems like being a pastor was cool, right? So it was like, like everybody wanted to be a rapper, everybody wanted to be a podcast host, and it seems like a lot of people wanted to be a pastor

for the wrong reasons. Yeah. How do you feel about that? You missed that era, the pastor era? I don't remember the pastor era. Yeah. How do you feel about that? You miss that era? The pastor era? I don't remember the pastor era. You don't? Man, it was building them huge churches.

Everybody was, I think the pastor phenomenon came from, oh man. Getting money in the church. It's a bunch of different things. You can speak to it more, but I think getting money in the church and how you look and how you're praised is, and you forget that he's supposed to be praised but how he praises you and all that type of stuff so yeah I see a lot of Instagram pages out there but you know it is what you killed it you killed that whole thing I think a lot of pastors were not called the pastor they just you

know study you go to school and then you just become a pastor like you become a manager at you know Publix or something like that and that's it that's unfortunate for a lot of people who invest their you know money time attention and their soul into people who they believe are really called from God I don't believe a lot of pastors are I think I think it's a system now oh God it's a system everything is a system and systems work with or without God. So I think the institution of church is whack. I think how church is ran is whack. I think the religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it even though I grew

up in it, I benefited from it, but I learned that God is not the church. And once I realized whoa, God ain't church. For me, you know what I mean, I ain't from the streets, I'm from the church. So that was a huge thing as well. It's in the Bible though, it says you can't even find God in the man-made temple. Why don't we read that though? How often do you hear that sermon? No, you hear, pastors make the people about the church. We've got the church name, we church in the church, in the bumper stick of the church. The church should be about the people. We've got the church name, we've church in the church, in the bumper stick of the church. The church should be about the people. The church should be about the people, but the church makes the people about the church. So all churches now are a movement, but they're not about the people,

they're not about serving and loving the people. So I just kind of pulled that. We online right now. We're not even in a building, a physical building or nothing like that. So Live Church, shout out to Live Church. I love y'all so much. But let me ask you a question, right? So, growing up in Queens, I went to Catholic school, right? My zone school was the worst, so my parents was making me go to Catholic school. I wasn't going to Andrew Jackson.

But I noticed in Catholic school, as a kid, Catholic school's 30 minutes, maybe 35, you up out of there. It's, I'm, ding, gone, chow, I'm back home. Baptist church is three hours. You know what I mean? So we got more to say. But it's to the point as a kid, you know, you feel like I get everything I need in this 30 minutes. I don't need this in three and a half hours.

I always wonder like, why is the church so long? Because you know, you got announcements, then you're passing around twice. Then sister so and soso gotta talk about them. And if you don't give enough on the first offer, you come back around. Oh, you gotta come back. I know y'all got 50 more dollars. Come back.

We almost reached our goal. We ain't there yet. Almost. They double back. And I think that's part of it. It's so long. Yeah. I think churches have changed since then.

I don't think churches is three hours like that anymore. I've seen church structures like 90 minutes. You know what I'm saying? They try to be more mindful of that in the more current churches and stuff like that anymore. I've seen church structures like 90 minutes, you know what I'm saying? They try to be more mindful of that in the more, you know, current churches and stuff like that. They try to cut that down a little bit, but I think the reason is people just have a lot of expression, man. They got a lot to say, they got a lot to get out, you understand what I'm saying? I hated the long churches. I grew up Pentecostal. So I'm Pentecostal church, what? Three hours? That's it? We just getting

started. Right. Yo, three hours. When you say three hours, like what? Man, we just getting started. We ain't had nothing else to do. We ain't had no social media. Sundays was for God. So we was going to stay all Sunday. So after the five hour service, you food and then night service. Come on, you use food and then night service. Come on you better stay for that second service. We got people coming from Baltimore. We got people coming from Baltimore. We got number service coming at 6.

We like damn yo. I hated that but I'm so glad it was like that for me as a young Jit. You understand what I'm saying? I'm so glad it was like that for me because it just kept me from a whole lot. Is it true that you worked on Justin Timberlake's Cry Me A River? Yeah I worked on Justin Timberlake's Cry Me A River. I'm so glad it was like that for me because it just kept me from a whole lot Is it true that you worked on Justin Timberlake's Cry Me A River? Yeah, I worked on just I was we was in the Root Studio again growing up in the Philly Camden Philly area We did our first album in at the at the Root Studio crazy how we got signed to Vivian Green is like an R&B soul artist and she was doing a showcase for

Tommy Mottola and Donnie Einer in the map Sony and she said Ty you know I was like her cousin at the time we were like real close Ty I want you to MD my showcase I said all right bet I got a little couple people from the choir a couple people from the band we just put together a little show for Viv so speaking of energy and all that we in there with Tommy Mottola and Donnie Einer and all these people at Columbia and I'm just a little you know I'm just playing I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing, everything is energetic. So they like, we love Vivian Green,

we're gonna sign her to Columbia and we're gonna sign this guy right here, who's that? And they was like, oh no, no, no, no, that's a gospel guy, you know, he does choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and we're signing the gospel guy. I was like, what? Within 90 days, we had a contract at our crib

from Columbia Records, no demo, no black and white no no profile pick No, no nothing and we got signed to Columbia with it. You know y'all were separate. Nah, she got her deal I got my deal. So my first album came out on the Columbia records called life because because of that That moment right there. I'm like, well God is really real, you know I mean, I mean you can say being in the right place at the right time But I believe in the favor of God and so we're doing our album in the Roots studio James Poiser shout out James Poiser was a producer on that he's with the Roots now you see him on Jimmy Fallon every night in the Roots studio

they had the plant-based you know stuff going on marijuana, the burning bush they had the burning bush going on every single day GA was in there we was in there, we was in there getting contact, you know, trying to sing the praises of the Lord. And just being in that environment, then the Roots was like, oh, you know, why don't you do this? Such and such coming to the studio, such and such coming to the studio, such and such. We just became the choir for like everybody who came.

So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album. We're on so many albums as background singers. So Timberlain came through and we just caught a vibe. Timberlain, we were just in there just vibing. Tim just put a beat on and we were just in there playing. I love working with Tim. Tim, if we could ever do that again bro. To Tim. Yeah, please let's hook that up. So we was in there vibing the Cry Me A River. He said

I got this song for Justice. So I'm in there like okay do do do do do do do do so that's me playing that literally on the world it's literally literally me and then the backgrounds on there me and my girl Marsha from Floatree did the background yeah ain't she amazing yo shout out Marsha love you girl we did the backgrounds to that and so just when it came out we listening to it And it's everywhere since 7-eleven is it why we like oh my that's us. That's us. Shut up boy That'll be $20. You know, I'm like wait What's up y'all so in a recent episode of quest love supreme my co-hosts I'm a Bill and sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys

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Back into that must have been crazy. Back in money must have been crazy. Did you get paid for it the right way? Oh, damn. I got $2, pay for it the right way? Oh damn I Got two thousand dollars for not the past. Oh man. Not the you want to pass it. Yes. I know you cried you a river Murphy $2,000 for crying your river. Yeah $2,000 for that you played it. I played it with

I got $2,000 for that. And you played the doom doom doom. I played it. That's the song. That's what everybody knows. That's what you hear. That's what you look for. Ain't no good what happens to anybody if they don't take care of the pastor. Tim, you've been called Tim. It was, it was, it was,

yeah, but you know, I didn't know the business at the time and I was so hyped to get $2,000 I didn't know what to do. I think I treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody. You understand what I'm saying? So I was just so hyped but I didn't know the business then. So I ain't got no hard feelings. You can go check it out.

All right, well don't move. We got more with Ty Tribbett when we come back. Gospel Artist is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DZ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's who kicking with Gospel Artist, Ty, Tribbit. Now you just got off tour, right? I did an All Things New Tour in the spring and then I did the Reunion Tour in the fall

or winter. It was amazing to do that with Kirk and Carc Sisters, Israel, David and Tamela. Man, that was incredible. My first arena tour. Never did that before. So I'm like to hear the songs with all them people. It was just, it was surreal. So we're doing it again this year I'm going out May June on the

only one night though tour only one night though that's my new single that's out only one night though and the tour is going May June I'm telling y'all I have a second win of some sort I don't have a second third or fourth whatever but I have this this momentum behind me right now and I am so excited to get out there and do this music I got new music coming book coming podcast all this stuff is coming, you know off the hinges of the Grammy and It's just a good season for me right now. Yes. I want everybody good what he's great For me growing up is Wow to your your music you didn't make it. You and Kirk Franklin were the first two men that did not make listening to gospel boring.

Right. Tyra Trippett and Kirk Franklin. That's what I love about your music. Or the song you remember them all. Made it not, no way! I can't even, then you going to the end. I can't even, and it ends. You know what I mean?

I don't even. Hey! Ladies and gentlemen, we're back with another episode of The CW. I can't even do you going to the Ladies My time is about no, but do you think people have a problem with God? No, no, no Most people Yeah, my whole life has been God fearing but see I think that you have to show improve that through actions You know I'm saying I think it's one thing to say oh, I believe in God I love God is that but do you really try to at least strive to move the way God would want you to move?

Okay, I think that's the difficult. Okay, so it's not the belief. It's the behavior. Yes. I think a lot. Yeah Sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger What you mean somebody will say I have an assignment, right? Like you said, I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to help Jess in her situation and her problems, and maybe you do. But then you as a person is not coming from the perspective of somebody giving the assignment.

You see what I'm saying? I disagree with that. But that's what makes me hard to see because you're given the excitement but you're not living right. It's like, are you really given the excitement? But nobody around Jesus was living right. That's all I'm about to say.

Like, was your teacher living algebra? You know what I'm saying? Can somebody give you information that'll help you that's still flawed? That's true, yeah. Right, but sometimes it's like, is that information true if if you out there selling crack every night giving crack to our youth? You might be helping me and saving me, but then you're killing a hundred others It's like is that coming from God or is that coming from a negative evil, the devil? You see what I'm saying? So it's kind of hard to trust it.

But that's where the discernment comes in, right? Exactly, so you need the spirit as well. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think. So when I say how you feel about God, I was gonna ask how you feel about all of that. You say you're too grown for the Holy Ghost. But uh. This is because I think they be plain. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. And some people do. They do. Most do. Most do. Oh, I got one last question because you just made me think of something. This conversation me and Jess had. When they had the New Year's Eve thing and they did the swag surf in the church. Oh, thank y'all for having me, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I thought it was very much clowned out. No, no, tell them what you thought. Tell the pastor what you thought up here.

I didn't think it was anything wrong with it because my whole thing was they doing it outside the church anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? So if you're having a, and it wasn't like it was a regular church service, it was New Year's Eve.

New Year's Eve, they partying! You know what I mean? Yeah, what did you think, and it wasn't like it was a regular church service, it was New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve! They partying! You know what I mean? Yeah, what did you think? You still thought differently? I thought that all of them were clowns. I'm very much sorry about that. But, You said all of them were clowns?

Everybody was clowns. Because that was the explicit version band play, just like I told Charlamagne. I'm like, nah, I didn't grow up like that in church. Like, it's just certain things you don't play with. I did. Yeah, you can swag and surf all day. Even if he disagree, I don't care. Yeah, I- can swag and surf all day. I even if he disagree. Okay

I agree with you in that the lyrics was like yeah Yeah, I got Patron all my They didn't play I mean my friend by right, but they didn't play the clean version. No, they didn't play the clean version It was an explicit version. I think that was a mistaken production or something like that. I don't think that was intentional I think the church and I'm the wild craziest. I'm with everything I swags or whatever I still think that the church should have something a sacred like what? You gotta meet people where they are they say meet people where you are They don't take that and they run with that though. I'm not with that

Nobody if Jesus met somebody where they were, he literally went to them. Like when they come to church, they're meeting you where you are. You coming in here. That's what you're saying. I'm with them too. I'm saying they should be across the street from the strip club so that when they come out, not inside. Have you ever been to a strip club? I have been to a strip club. I am yeah. Yeah, you have I have been to a club We saw a club. Yeah, it was a birth. What birthday was it? I'm 48 now

I just want it was one of them new years when I was like forget the church. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I did not enjoy I went one time in my entire life. You pray over the girls. I didn't pray over them No, I didn't I didn't pray I prayed over myself more than anything. Yeah, like please. I did not. Huh? Why didn't you like it? Oh man. For real? Well your wife is, so nevermind. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I said people who know before I have I didn't enjoy the performers What's thing was it? Florida she went to Atlanta. No, Florida. Could you mean Florida? Yeah, so I didn't enjoy I didn't enjoy the performers and I was like this is why I don't belong here Yeah, but we tried wasn't over back then you'd love It's okay. Oh, I think I'm'm God think God was like you got it out You're good little product moment. Are you straight? So this is what you wanted. Did you I'm like man

This is not I knew exactly what you were doing. You know, I don't have time for this. Tans is on Tuesdays. I love y'all. I never ever designed to go back ever. It was horrible, bro. It was horrible, man. Can you pray for this stupid show?

Please very much. Hey, first of all, thank y'all for being like cultural leaders, man. I appreciate what y'all do for the culture, y'all. Thank you, brother. It's amazing what y'all do here. Thank you for keeping it positive. And you crazy, y'all all crazy, but that's we are and yeah, we're not ashamed of who we are. Let's pray for a minute Huh? Okay father God. I thank you for this opportunity to just to pray over these blessed people and in this show

I pray now God that you just continue to be our guide and our lead There are so many needs just in this room and so many needs of people that are listening we can't solve every need we don't know every need but you promised to supply every need so I pray from emotions to finances to mental health to physical health to relational security I pray that you just supply every need once we're in scarcity and we need we get desperate and we do things that's not even in our character so may we never be insecure and may we never lack anything and when we never fear. Perfect love casts out all fear. Fill us with your perfect love today and we won't fear anything. We won't

fear the enemy, we won't fear the way of the world, we won't fear anything. We won't fear the enemy. We won't fear the way of the world We won't fear anything because we are loved by you Let everybody know for an assurity that they are loved crazy and all the backs linen all not whatever whatever State we're in it does not disqualify us from your everlasting love So embrace us with that today in the name of Jesus bless everyone bless Charlemagne Let's envy bless Jess bless this show God Let it be a beacon of light and a beacon of hope to everyone who listens let it put a smile on people's face Put joy in their heart and happiness in their day I thank you for the opportunity to pray over this and I pray in Jesus name that it prospers in Jesus name

Amen I pray in Jesus name that it prospers in Jesus name amen I've been called a lot of my 23 years that Donkey of the Day is a new one. Donkey of the Day, getting going to a 39 year old man from St. Paul named Kyle Van Wert. Now I'm going to tell you something, times is hard out here. Okay, there's a very wide gap between the haves and the have nots. That's why all these politicians need to remember these wise four words from James Carville. And those words are, it's the economy, stupid. That's it.

Nothing more, nothing less. People want to know how you're going to put more money in their pocket and people want to know how you're going to keep them safe. It's that simple. If you're talking about how I can save money, if you're talking about how you can make my bills lower, if you're talking about me being able to afford a nice vacation every now and then, you are talking my language. And you know another thing money can buy that we don't talk

about enough? What? Transportation. Okay people want to be able to afford a dependable set of wheels. I'm not talking about no Bentley, Phantom, Range Rover. No we're not chasing luxury cars. We're sticking to the non luxury cars that we used to. The Forge, the Hondas, the Nissans, the Kias. Folks just want a reliable set of wheels to get them from A to B, okay? We take that for granted in our society. There is someone out there listening to me right now who can't afford a car.

They waiting for public transportation right now, are waiting for somebody to get them a ride, okay? They watching people drive by, dreaming of one day owning that 2013 Toyota Avalon you take it for granted, okay? And this is how we get to Kyle VanWer. See, there was a woman who got pulled over in St. st. Paul and the officer thought she needed a sobriety test So as the officer was giving the woman a sobriety test

There was a man named Kyle and Kyle was sitting there at a nearby bus stop minding his business daydreaming of the day He don't have to ride public transportation anymore praying for the blessing of a Nissan Altima. Okay he just wanted a nice little premium car and he sees this woman getting a sobriety test as he's sitting at the bus stop he starts thinking to himself look at this woman possibly drunk and driving mismanaging the blessing of a car and then a voice told Kyle another person's mismanagement of a blessing is an opportunity to show God what you would do if you had said blessing. And then this happened.

Let's go to NBC 11 for the report please. As part of the statewide toward zero deaths enforcement focused on arresting impaired drivers a St. Paul police officer pulled over a woman he says was speeding driving a Lincoln Navigator at about 6 p.m. Sunday. And according to a criminal complaint when the officer began field sobriety testing a Completely unrelated man who was sitting on a nearby bus stop bench got into the driver's seat of the woman's car Police say the man was 39 year old Kyle van Wurt who has a long history of minor crimes involving drugs and theft Before the officer could stop him court papers say van Wurt sped away in the woman's SUV Let SUV. After the thief drove away in the Lincoln Navigator,

the woman told police her iPhone and other electronics were still inside. So using the iPhone's Find Me app, the woman was able to help police track it to Apple Valley, where they found the iPhone apparently tossed out the window by the thief. But little did he know that the woman still had an Apple air tag dangling from the key chain. They found the SUV, chased it, and finally arrested Van Worth. What part of Grand Theft Auto mission is this?

Kyle was sitting at the bus stop waiting for somebody to be drunk, be too drunk to notice their car's missing. OK? And he jumped right in and stole it. That's not even criminal behavior. That's just opportunistic stupidity. OK, Kyle, even though I'm giving you the credit you deserve for being stupid. I see your vision Okay, I can understand what you did there you at the bus stop this woman getting a sobriety test in your mind

In your mind you was like if I had the blessing of a car I would never drive drunk, but you got the weight on the Lord Kyle You got the weight on Jesus have patience and wait for the things you want most. Don't chase it, don't run after it. Please don't steal it. If God wants you to have it, he will give it to you. Amen. You can't take it.

And that's what Kyle did. And you heard in the news report, he didn't get away simply because the young woman had an Apple AirTag inside her vehicle. Not to mention, everything is a tracking device nowadays. You heard the news report. The woman left her phone and other electronics in the car. He threw it out the window, vehicle not to mention everything is a Kyle was high and on drugs. Police just waiting on his blood test to come back. Alright and as you heard in the news report he has a history of drugs and theft.

Wouldn't surprise me. Okay wouldn't surprise me at all. If you steal a car in the middle of a sobriety test while the police are right there then it's safe to say it's probably you who needs the sobriety test. Please give Kyle Van Wert the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. You are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. He aimed a little too high too. What you mean? Yeah, you don't do that with the Lincoln Navigator. You gotta stay with the premium vehicles.

Know what I'm saying? Stay with the premium vehicles. Like the Altima? Nissan. Yeah, yeah. Nissan, Altima, Maxima, Toyota, Camry, Avalon. Stay right in that range. You wanna play a game?

Nope. I wanna play a game. I don't know what race he is. I in that range. You wanna play a game? Nope. I Want playing I don't know what race is I really don't oh, I have no idea Can we guess and then just Google it like I don't know if you can party pooper I don't know. I really have no idea what's racist. Oh, I'm lying. I do what I'm talking about. Okay, let's play a game Do we really need to play a game? You feel like it's a shoe-in. I mean, I guess. His last name is Van Wert, guys. Kyle Van Wert. So he white? Yes. I guess. Did you think he white? You were thinking black at first? I was thinking a little black at first too. Yeah, a little foward. Why? Why?

Just what? No. Where the story went? Why? Just where the story went. Tell me more. Tell me more. I don't have to.

Go ahead, tell us why. I identify as a cat right now. I'm just a meow. Ask me a question again. Nope. Meow. Alright. Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose

Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Red Nose Rudolph the Red Nose Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. I mean the guy we are to breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building Come on now. We have Sarah Jake Roberts. Welcome. Thank you. How you feeling? I feel good. I'm a little tired But I'm glad to be here. Okay, but the new book power moves ignite your confidence and become a force Where did inspiration for the book come from? It really started about five years ago whenever I'd finish speaking people would always tell me like that was so powerful You're so powerful, but I didn't really feel powerful like I'd be in the fight of my life up there

And I started just asking God like what does it mean to truly be powerful? And I feel like I just revealed to me that it has so much to do with obedience and authenticity But not only that that power is a flow and so what makes me powerful when I'm preaching is different than what makes me powerful As a mother so I started digging into the fluidity of power and this notion that power moves and embracing that from season to season really started resonating with me. I do have a question this is gonna sound stupid but I just want people to understand you know where you came from and how you got into faith I know you were here last time so for people that don't know that they

automatically assume that your dad was into religion that's what got you into it but you had a different start with you. So let's talk about that a little bit first. How did you start and how did you get to where you are now and the fact that you had your first child at 14? Let's break that all down for people. And he's in the studio, like a grown man. That's right. He's a grown man. What a full beard. He's not though. Don't give him that much gas. That's a child over there.

Yeah, so my dad has been in ministry my whole life and growing up when I was growing up in church like we were at church every single day of the week and you either found a spot, you were in the choir, you were dancing, you were doing something or you were like me and you were sitting in a corner somewhere and I can remember my siblings telling me like, you don't go to hell like you can shout on beat, you can clap like you won't go to hell. And I was like, you might be right, because what I'm listening to on the radio, like was resonating with me, it doesn't align with what's being preached. And so I never really felt like I had a sense of belonging within faith. And then when my father's ministry kind of took off, I didn't know where

I fit within the dynamic of our family at all. And so I tried to find myself a 13 year old trying to find herself is going to be open to anything. And so I got pregnant at 13. I had my son at 14, which just further confirmed to me like you know, I wanted the good girls. And so I spent probably 10 years of my life just being like, all right, faith isn't for me, you guys not for me, I'm gonna figure out what's happening outside. And I got to this phase after this traumatic experience in my first marriage, where I almost got arrested and I was defending the right to keep my kids and I was like, I have tried literally everything. I might as well just try faith. And I wasn't trying to build a platform

I was trying to build myself and I started blogging about all of my Experiences and it turns out that there were like other women who felt maybe forgotten by church But like because they did you feel that way like especially because your dad was in ministry Did you feel like his church forgot about you? Especially that being your dad and it's hard like knowing what I know now It's hard to say because I felt so much shame from having a teen pregnancy that I'm sure that there were people who were like still loving on me, but I couldn't cut through the idea of like during purity culture, the height

of purity culture, you didn't get pregnant. Like this, it just doesn't align. And I don't know, because even my father is surprised that my life has turned in this direction. So I'm not sure if anyone thought that I was going to be the girl talking about Jesus. But I tried it for myself and I started sharing it with like these other misfits. And it turns out there were a lot of us like back row churchgoers who were there because we had to be but didn't fit in. And I was able to give them a voice and a language through trying to find my own voice

and language and it's resonated with them. What level of ratchet were you on a scale of like one to Glowriller? Well, at the end of the day, the day's got to end. I don't know. I don't even know how to answer that question. But I mean, I was not outside. I was not trying to be the good girl at all. I embraced this idea of you can just do your own thing

and try anything. So I mean, I did quite a few things. It's interesting to hear you say the bishop was surprised to see how things turned out because I'm sure him and the first lady was praying over you and asking God to turn you around. I'm sure. It would make sense, right?

Yeah, but I mean, I have always been very strong willed. I've always been my own person. And so I think that they were praying, but just like we praying, we like, I don't know if you answer this prayer. We'll see how it happens. I don't think that they were for sure knowing that things were absolutely going to turn around. Even if they did turn around, I don't think anyone

anticipates like, oh, she's going to be in ministry. because that's not necessarily a turnaround like maybe she'll figure out who God is but this fact that she's also going to be in ministry and helping others that was a wild card nobody saw coming Mmm I feel sometimes when especially when people play with the church right and I'll tell you why I say play with the church They come off like a very church holier than thou right so when they speak a lot of people actually Believe it and listen because they feel a lot of people actually believe it and listen because they feel like they study they go through it they read the bible etc etc etc but also you realize that person is not a good person so where do you cross the lines of somebody

taking on an assignment doing something positive i think you spoke about it earlier somebody giving a message opposed to who they are as a person like can somebody give a message and be an f'd up person yeah i mean a broken clock is right twice a day. You know what I mean? You don't even have to be a Christian to say something that could be profound and deep. But that doesn't change the fact that you have an opportunity to be more fully integrated in your character. But I think that the messages that resonate the most are from people who are literally

walking it out, living it out. And so it does discredit the message sometimes when you're telling me something that you don't live by, but I think about it like this. So I'm a parent and now that my children are moving into adulthood, I recognize that many of the things that we have told them growing up,

they're also realizing that I am figuring it out with them as well. And I don't know that it's a lot different in ministry. Like this is where the goal is. I think we all know where the goal is, but I'm still working it out too. I think where people get in trouble is that they're not actually doing the work. Like I'm telling you that this is the goal and I'm doing the exact opposite of it, which is why I've tried to be really intentional about being authentic.

Like I'm going through depression. I'm going through an anxiety. This is what I'm learning in the midst of that because it doesn't serve me for me to come off as your God when we All need the same one. So I try to really make sure that I'm not on a pedestal I try to kick the pedestal down like you see a preacher a preacher will be preaching right and then he's cheating on his wife Yeah, a preacher will be preaching and then he's hitting his wife, you know, I mean, so when you see that is it's kind of Difficult to uphold a preacher and you'd be like, oh we just playing this game or do you really feel that way and really made a mistake?

You understand what I'm saying? Well, I mean I can't judge someone's heart and I can't judge their experiences I'm a little hesitant to really make a judgment on situations I'm not saying anybody particular if you know this is nobody. Yeah. Well, you know people I don't I don't know anyone either Who's going through this but I think people infer a lot, but I will say this like, preachers are human. So if you are who you are and you can cheat on your wife and a preacher can cheat on his wife like he's a man too, she's a woman too. And so you guys are still going to have the same areas of temptation that you need to overcome.

I think your response to that like what is my response? How do I grow from here? How do I create boundaries? Do I need to sit down? Do I need to heal? Like I think how you handle your humanity in the face of this divine call is what's most important. I am careful that pastors don't have a license

to do whatever they want to because of the power they hold. I think that you can be human, but all of us need to be trying, stretching, growing to be more like Jesus, or we are up here playing. I'm not asking you can be human but all of us need to be trying and stretching growing to be more like Jesus or we Are up here playing I'm not asking you to be perfect. I'm asking you to really be on this walk for real That's right. Who's this white pastor you talking about? And does he listen to the breakfast club All right, we got more with Sarah Jake Roberts when we come back so don't move is the breakfast club good morning morning

Everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. I mean the guy we are the breakfast club We got more with Sarah Jake Roberts. When we come back, so don't move, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We still have Sarah Jake Roberts in the building. Jess. I want to, because you are a mother of six. Yeah. And you're busy, extremely busy with your podcast and then writing a book and then traveling.

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Listen to this week's episode of Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. And I feel for you because you got a lot going on. I think it's the message of this book. I think it's really allowing myself to like flow in a different definition of power based off of each of those roles. Because as much as I want to bring the same intensity to everything I do, if I do that, I may end up damaging my children because I'm talking to them like a business

Partner and so really defining for myself What does it mean to be powerful in these specific roles and how much capacity do I have to show up in that space? Asking for help, you know changing and modifying my life to really fit my priorities Has done a lot and then also just making sure my kids know like I'm tired. So my daughter is eight. She was devastated when I left yesterday. She was like, please don't leave me literally. She's like, Can you please come home? And I'm like, I just need this one week to get this book in as many hands as possible and then mommy will be home. But I'm packing to her like, you know, you do this while I'm doing this. So she understands

that sometimes absence does not mean that I don't care. Yeah. And it's a balancing walk, especially I think if you have mom guilt like I do sometimes. Yeah. But I also want her to see a woman walking in her purpose and being excited about it and changing lives. So I share testimonies with her too. I'm like, let's sit down and read these comments from this weekend. Thank you for being a part of this. So she feels a part of it as well. Okay, cuz my son is 12 now. Yeah, but I miss a lot of him being going from grade to grade, you know, because my mom between my mom and his dad, that's who has him. I was touring a lot before I actually got to do this. And I just feel so guilty a lot sometimes like, and I have this new baby and I'm like, I'm bringing them up to

Jersey with me. And he wants to grow up in the house with the baby instead of me being in Jersey with the new baby with you know, and then him still being with my mother, like, and I don't want to repeat that. Right. I want to do that again. So I feel good. So I had my son at 14. And I think one of the things that makes me feel most guilty is that I know that I was growing up while he was growing up. And so the way that I'm able to be present even for my younger kids, I know that he didn't have that. I think one, I don't know if you have to deal with this, but I had to really forgive myself for what I didn't know when I was raising you. You know, I just I didn't

know I did the best that I could. And to trust that I still have opportunity. If you think about adult children who are wounded from relationships that didn't know I did the best that I could and to trust that I still have opportunity if you think about adult children Who are wounded from relationships that didn't go well with their parents? There's still a little kid inside of them that once their parents is show up that wants to experience Healing in that space and so it reminds me too that I'm never out of time So I'm constantly still reparenting him even at 21 years old You know in the clamp chapter, you start by saying if you're one of those people who know better and instantly do better, I'm probably gonna be the friend

who you roll your eyes at constantly. Why are you that friend? Because things need to marinate for me. I don't just activate things. You can tell me you need to be vegan and I'm gonna let that marinate for a year or two before that actually activates because I don't do things just because someone says

that I should do them. It has to be real, I have to have a conviction about it. But I will marinate it so I can figure out how does this revelation actually fit within the context of my life. So in the back of the books, each book has something to marinate on, something to activate, and something to prey on,

because I know everyone moves into change differently. I love the marinating before activating, but I feel like that's probably how the majority of us move. Is there ever a time we shouldn't marinate before activating? Like the spirit says, do it. We just go. I mean to each his own. I think if you feel, I'm not into telling folks what they should do.

You know what I mean? Like I think if you feel like there's a now on it, you should do that. You should move in it now. And a lot of times when we move in it now, we learn the marination lessons afterwards. But yeah. What about the spirit though?

The spirit says move. The spirit always tells you to be patient and marinate? I'm in relationships. I've seen you snatch your wig off on stage. You didn't marinate on that occasion. I didn't have a choice. She didn't come natural. I was just coming over. She got tired of me. I't marinate on that. I didn't have a choice. She didn't come natural, but it's coming over.

She got tired of me. I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. That, oh, Lord. I know. Yeah, no. No, I was in the spirit in that I had a mission to accomplish and I didn't want anything to distract me.

And my husband wasn't there. My parents weren't there. So it wasn't like I was going to be able to toss the microphone. I was the senior leadership person that was present in that room. And so I had to take it off. I didn't love it. I didn't enjoy it. But I stood up to it. And I think it was really interesting because I was going through something at that time where I was wondering, could I be in Dallas, a part of senior leadership, like with my past with the way that I preach with the way that I'm a little different than I guess

Traditional pastors and I really did feel like God was trying to tell me like just be authentic Just trust yourself in that season of my life And so that Sunday when I'm sitting there with a wig cap on and then other women start taking their wigs off on the altar I was like, you know what? I think this may be God trying to tell me you gonna have to show up as your full self in order to get this done. And I know a lot of people made fun of it, but there were so many people who were like,

seeing you stand there, being courageous, stepping into that moment helped me so much to just embrace who I am. And so I really feel like God took something that would have been very embarrassing and at least allowed there to be a buffer from the people who were moved by that moment. Well, at least for me, I was like, that's why we rock with her. A lot of people said that.

Because you're just always willing to be your true self at all times. Well, I mean, like y'all know this isn't my hair and like, no, it's not ideal, but it's not more important than what I'm here for. So like, I'm going to take it off and we're going to move on down the road. When I got back behind the platform, I was like, oh Lord, I have desecrated the potters. There are bundles on the altar, I have desecrated this place. But yeah, it just turns out it wasn't that way.

I love chapter 16 too, know your harm. Oh yeah. What is knowing your harm? Well, I talk about the oath that doctors take where they say, you know, that they'll do no harm, but they're also recognizing that they're practicing. And when we move in power, part of the reason why so many of us don't move in power is that we're afraid that we won't do it perfectly, or that we'll make mistakes. But if we can embrace the reality

that I'm going to be powerful, and humble, I'm going to be wrong, I'm going to have to apologize, I'm going to mess up, I may say things too sharply, then that doesn't make me any less powerful. As a matter of fact, it makes me more powerful because I recognize that my position of power could disrupt my relationship sometimes, but I value these relationships enough to learn how to be powerful in a way that honors the spaces that I'm in next time. What's your thought on the way that church is now, right? As a kid, you had to go to church every Sunday. You had to be in the building. You had to sit there and if there was a baptism,

you was gonna be there all day. Now, a lot of people turn it on Sunday morning and it's a lot easier. So, what are your thoughts on people not actually attending the institution of church? First of all, you're not about to touch or be me. No, you don't. No, you don't. Let's be very clear. Let me see. I mean, I think that the world is changing. And as the world changes, I think people are finding things that are more convenient for them. And I do think that you are able to have intimate encounters with God from this comfort of your own home. And I think it's powerful that that's the way that things are being spread. I think it's like watching a football game at home.

Like you can get hype, you can be excited for your team, but there is something about being in the room with other people that makes you just take things over the edge. I was surprised that in a world where people aren't coming to church, that we have 40,000 women at the Women Evolve Conference. Cause I'm like, I don't know that this is a thing

that people are going to really be into when they like virtual experiences. But there is something that happens in healthy community and connection that allows your faith to really be strengthened. I've had people come into rooms, and like they didn't really want to be there. Somebody drug them in there, they were going through a depression, they don't know why they were there. But just being in the space, sitting next to someone who was able to care for them and just being surrounded by worship, lifted their spirits

when they couldn't lift their own hands. And I don't think that there's any substitute for that. But you also keep it tight though. One hour, that's, let's go. I don't, yeah, it's finished. He said it. Everything he said has been said to me and so now we can go home and have brunch. Yeah, I do think we have to honor people's time because people do have options and so

being really intentional about making sure people feel like I can go get out and have the rest of my day is part of what we should really lean into. All right, we'll keep it locked. We have more with Sarah Jakes Roberts when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody

is DJ, N.V. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Sarah Jakes Roberts. Charlamagne? Is the church whack? That's the question. That's the question. That was the question. That's what Ty got smoked for. He said that he thinks the church has become whack. I heard in context what he said made a lot more sense, but I heard the soundbite was trash. I think that everyone has a different experience of church, and I think that there are some people who have probably had an experience that has disheartened them in that way. But I love the church.

I mean, as much as I went through my own church hurting trauma, the church was also really beautiful to me in times where I didn't have anywhere to go and I could sit in that presence and experience God and sometimes to really experience God in church, you have to look past the people. And maybe that's why, maybe it's not, because maybe it keeps our focus on what should really matter. I love what you said too about in the Know Your Harm, you said deflecting from the way

that you harm someone and highlighting the way that they harm instead is a sign of immaturity that keeps you from truly being powerful. What's found on that? Well, a lot of times we will not embrace what we did to someone because of what they've done to us. And it keeps us from owning our stuff and growing. And so being able to say, even though my teacher may not be perfect, like my teacher may have failed in chemistry, but they get an A plus in this history class, that means that I need to at least be able to receive from them this opportunity to grow.

And I feel like in relationships, that's hard, especially if you marry because when you're married, your person brings up something and you like oh but last week you did X Y and Z But what did you do today? You know and how can you own that and I think when we own our stuff we give other people permission to do it as well Sometimes we want to be the person who receives the apology, but not the one who gives it But we have to lead in humility and vulnerability. You said that's how you went to a rate work initially, right? Where?

Like you weren't listening. Oh no, yeah, no. You were throwing everything, throwing his stuff at him all the time? Well, I don't know if I was throwing his stuff at him as much as I was maybe reciting it in my own head, but I will say that when I was single, after I went through my divorce,

I finally got my life together with me and my two kids. You really could not tell me that I was not Miss Independent out here. So I really went into our relationship with a certain level of pride, where I was like, at the end of the day, I got myself together, I finally love who I am and embracing it.

And so when I was in relationship with him, and he would just ask me the simplest of questions, we weren't even fighting, it would just be like, why'd you do that? I didn't like that, because I'm not used to having nobody question my decisions. And it was a simple, harmless question. And so I think that I went into a defensive one because I wanted to protect my healing.

And when you're in a marriage and you go into it trying to protect yourself and make sure that you don't get done the way that you were done in the past, I don't know that it's fair for creating intimacy. And so I had to do a lot of work of receiving his perspective and finding get valuable so that I could become better and I have become better as a result of it. What does power look like in a relationship? Those dynamics are always changing. I think especially now that we see hyper masculinity is beginning to be interrogated.

We're seeing women move into positions where sometimes they're the breadwinners and men are at home being more comfortable taking care of the family. I think power in a relationship is recognizing the strengths of what your person carries and how that strength builds you in your area of weakness without feeling like they have to be strong or stronger in the same area that you're strong. I think it's like this symbiotic relationship, this flow where you're able to build a life together because both of you bring something different to the table and to honor that,

to really honor it is important. You said something else in the book. You said when you are unable to connect the dots between who you sense you could become and who you presently are, it doesn't just cause internal frustration, it renders you powerless. And one of the examples you use is you don't defend yourself when misunderstood. And to me, not feeling the need to explain yourself is powerful. Well, I think not explaining yourself and not defending yourself, and I think it's different because you have a platform, and so you can't defend yourself 24 7

but when we're in intimate relationships with someone and they have an Expectation of who we are or this idea of who we are and we don't change that we allow them to believe it We do end up powerless because I'm not even bringing the full version of who I am Into this friendship into this parent-child dynamic, and you end up robbing yourself of the ability to really show up in your power and allow them to believe something about you that's not true. And so it is powerful to be like, you got me messed up. Like, that's not what I believe.

That's not what I think. And if we're going to walk this thing out, I want you to know who I am for real so that you can know what to expect from me. Okay, guys, so you talk about intimate relationship. Yeah, I'm not defending, nothing to do. Uh, yeah. It's hard, it's hard for me. Yeah, well anyway, all you're doing is telling them the book,

they're not gonna buy if you ask them all the questions about the book, making her basically recite the book. You should pray that your bob looks like hers. That's what you should do. Oh, now why is my bob in it? Now my bob is in here minding her business. Why is my bob? Tell him you should pray he, what message you open people get from the book? You just keep on asking questions over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and present in your future, it just might be taking on a different form. So to be open to how power is being redefined in your present.

Well now, can you leave us on a prayer? Thank you God for this opportunity, for this platform. Thank you for using these voices at this stage in their life. And I'd usually pray for the listeners, but God I want to pray for them that you would stir up the gift of God That's on the inside of them that you would highlight the areas of their life where you want them to experience more of your power and To show them the power that you've placed inside of them I thank you God for giving them wisdom strategy not just for their careers

But for their family their emotional health and wellness. And God, I pray that you would continue to show them your light that they may lean into it in Jesus name. Amen. That's right. Make sure you go get Sarah Jake Roberts' new book, Power Moves, ignite your confidence and become a force and subscribe to her podcast, The Woman of All Podcasts on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. That's right.

We appreciate you for coming, Ms. Roberts. Thank you. You need to come more often for people who think church is white. Because you're the person that I feel like is gonna bridge the gap between church and this new generation. Yeah. I really feel that way.

I hope so, thank you. That's a tremendous honor, a lot of responsibility, but I'm committed to holding down my square. That's right. All right, Sarah Jakes Roberts, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's the JNV. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy we are, the Breakfast Club.

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