The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - KING OF THE SOUTH - Jeezy, Lil Jon, Jermaine Dupri + More

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

Best of 2025 - King of The South - Jeezy, Lil Jon, And Jermaine Dupri Interview, Plus Charlamagne give Donkey of The Day to a dine and dash couple who hit 5 restaurant for $1200 of free meals, listen for more. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wake the fuck up, breakfast club DJ Envy The Family Guy Just hilarious I'm the wild call Keep the f*** real And Charlemaine the guy I'm a lovable laugh

Or you're playing Yo, I'm loving that energy up there right now Sometimes you gotta pop out And show's it in Now let's begin Wake it up This is your time

To get it off your chest 800585151051 want to hear from you on the breakfast club Hello, who's this? Sean D from the D. What's up, brother? Get it off your chest. Man, what's going on?

Trump ain't had y'all going on lead because y'all got him to duck you other day, Dizzy. No, it's this thing called Christmas and New Year's, brother, come on now. Okay, you can protect him all you want, Shaolin'allel, man. Would y'all want us to work through the holidays?

We can't get a little vacate? A little break? Nah, no, nope. Ain't no break. We got kids. we got kids and we got we got brains we need a mental break bro hey I can understand dude the way of the world yes sir thank you we appreciate it hello who's this

Renee Renee get it off your chest hey girl okay listen good morning everybody first of all I went to the dispensary yesterday right I'm tired of the taxes on the dispensary marijuana and I got a medical card some BS you know what I'm saying it's pretty cost $3.25 for an ounce

and then you're going to hit me with a 14% text. How much it costs for a house? Yeah, yeah. A $3.25. God damn. Jesus. No, see, listen, that's my medicine. I need that to survive.

No, I'm with you, but $3.25 for an ounce, that's not pretty steep. Yeah, that's right. I'm telling you that's why you can't. Where are you at? Where's the dispensary? In River Rouge, in Detroit Oh, you're in Detroit

Oh, okay, okay, I guess things are higher up there Because I ain't never hit 325 by ounce is crazy Yeah, that's nothing I mean, I've paid higher than that I mean, it's quality because the simple fact is marijuana keeps stupid people tolerable You know who we got to ministration So, you know, all that BS that Donald Trump

keeps spitting out, I need to medicate Come on, nah then I got to get something else off my chest Knowing I'm a weed smoker, my friends want to get me makeup and stuff like that. I can bad at for myself. I don't wear makeup. I tell them to put some money on my books at the dispensary. That's right.

I mean, it is what it is. I love that. I love you for that. That is dope. I mean, because of the simple fact that if I tell people like this, my rent is paid, everything else is paid. But my marijuana, I can always need more. You know what? That's not a bad idea.

They definitely should do that Where people could actually put money On your marijuana books Where people can get weed I'm not mad at that Listen, if you get from Detroit I got so much weed yesterday at my show If y'all go to Bow's dispensary

They will actually let you do that Wow Anybody that knows me Don't give me no bullshit perfume Damn Just get me some weed I need some quality cush Yeah especially if it's $350 an ounce

Somebody need to help with that you got to put that on layaway. You pay that all at once? Yeah, I go about three, four, five times a week. Well, go to... Well, first of all, what do you do for a limit that you spend in $1,500 a week on a week? Listen, we can't talk about that on here.

Oh, my gosh. And then, hold on one other thing, I've got one other thing to say. If Donald Trump makes marijuana federal won't forget about that Epstein shit, I agree with y'all. All right. Goodbye, Mama. No, for real.

If he do that, I'm telling you, everybody will forget. Legalized marijuana federally and pardon everybody that got their marijuana charges federally. Anybody that's locked up for a federal marijuana case, let them out. Oh, man, people will forget that in a heartbeat. Do you hear me? And salute to all the dispensaries in Detroit that got us on. I know House of Mary Jane and House of Dink, they always got us on in the morning. So salute to them.

All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105.1. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne.

Envy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. I'm outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is.

We lie? Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. Peace, Simone. Get it off your chest. Hey, bro. I wanted to say, like, when the government was shut down,

like, he wasn't giving up. He was saying he was going to give, but he wasn't never coming back saying he gave. You know what I'm saying? He gave. And then he was going to give to a charity. Oh, got you. You know, every day he said that, but in my heart, I don't feel like he did it.

And then for you, bro, like, every day you were saying you was giving. And I was just like, I feel like you're one of them guys that give something, like, for the cameras. You know what I'm saying? Like, every day, bro, you was, I give to this and this. I give to this and this. Bro, how about you just? Do you know why? Do you know why I did that?

Would you like to ask me why? Yeah, go ahead, bro. Because the food banks wanted to be amplified. That was the whole point of that. That's why we bought, you know, especially here in New York City. That's why we bought the two people who were two of the people who run Food Bank NYC up here. They wanted to be amplified. And because of that amplification, you know, at least me personally, I was able to provide like 700,000, 800,000 meals for people.

But they've had a record. They've had record-breaking numbers. at the food banks because of people amplifying, you know, what they were doing. And it wasn't just me. You got people like Tracy Morgan. Who else is out there? Yeah, I ain't saying they amplify. I ain't saying don't amplify it, but I'm saying you always had to say you do this,

you do this. And then let me say this, bro, I'm from, my name is Shimon. I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, but I live in Georgia now. But, and shout out to Jess. I think that, bro, y'all, you amplify, I mean, you put stuff out there and don't, don't tell the other side or don't have the other side story. You know what I'm saying?

Like, just, I said all that to say this, just when, I think it was Dame Dash that came up there, you knew how to sit back and just lay low, you know what I'm saying, and not say too much of nothing. But that's what Envy, and that's what Charlotte Main, that's what y'all need to learn how to do, bro, when y'all don't really know what y'all talking about. I'm saying.

Damn. Because like, like they said, y'all push your agenda out there to the people, man. And that don't be cool when y'all pushing the wrong agenda. And a real quick example is, Jesus' birthday ain't on the 25th. And y'all push that Christmas stuff like that's the, like that's the truth. So stop killing our people with this bad information. You know what I'm saying? Can I say something else to you?

Yeah, go ahead, bro. I just let you say a bunch of wrong stuff and didn't say. anything. Okay. No, you didn't, bro. I just did it. I promise you you didn't. I just let you talk. What you mean. No, but see, that's what I'm saying. It's a joke because, like I said, you you'll push your agenda, bro, and don't know

the truth of it, bro. Or you do. That's what made me feel like y'all are part of agenda, too, for the most part. And again, that's why I like Jessica, because she stayed quiet on certain things and it keeps her out of it. But, bro, don't push the, don't push agendas if you don't really know. You know what I'm

saying? Like, like I said, when I, when you cut me off, tell me about Jesus and show me in the Bible where the 25th is his birthday. I never said that I thought this was Jesus' birthday. What I said was being that y'all recognized this is Jesus' birthday, y'all don't even let Jesus headline his own birthday. The day that y'all say is Jesus' birthday,

the day that y'all say y'all should recognize it Jesus' birthday, y'all don't even let them headline it. Y'all let Frosty the Snowman headline it, Santa Claus. Yeah, but you still pushing the agenda, bro. You're still pushing the, just like Jesus ain't white, but you used to, but they still got this picture up in all these churches of them being white. Can I ask you another question? Magic question. Go ahead, man.

What do you like? I like my family. I like my wife. I like living. But they don't like you. I see them on Facebook all the time. They don't like you. They say you come to the dinner table and you always coming there with all of these conspiracy theories and, you know, causing arguments with.

people. Hey, I bet you can't show me, I bet you can't show me what Jesus is white, but he posted everywhere around the world as he white. And in the Bible, it clearly say that he's black. I don't think Jesus is white either. Yeah, but I'm saying you push the agenda. What agenda? I don't think he white. I agree with you. Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm saying this, bro, when I say the agenda, I ain't saying you put the agenda right now that Jesus is white. But when you talk about Christmas and celebrating these holidays, that's satanic and it ain't good like and you transform them to you know that's the good thing that's a good thing let's celebrate thanksgivings to be thankful sir i grew up oh sir i grew up with jehovah witness

i didn't even grow up celebrating holidays what i like and that's sad bro that you you the way you are then bro no what i like is the what i like is the season i like the energy of the season i like yeah you like thanksgivans but the native i mean the native americans got massacred massacre for Thanksgiving and you celebrate it and you like. Actually, I don't like things. I actually said we shouldn't even recognize Thanksgiving. Hey. Not only, what are you talking about?

Okay, you got me on that one. You got me on that one. Have a nice day, sir. You appreciate your call. That's exactly what get it off your chances for. Okay, 1-8005-105-1 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody is DJ NV. Jolari, Sholomey and the Guy.

We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. One of the best to ever do it. Celebrating the 20th. anniversary of The Motivation 101. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeezy, welcome. What I'm doing? What I'm doing?

How you feeling, brother? Damn, great, man. Better the most. You know what I mean? Right. I was talking to somebody yesterday. This is the other day. And he was like, yeah, I'm on my way to Jeezy house.

I'm like, for what? He was like, I'm opening up for Jeezy. I said, what you mean, opening up? There's like, Jeezy DJ as a hobby. He could do it to have fun. I said, shut up. He was like, yes. You started DJ?

Yeah, you know, I used to DJ back in the day when I was, you know, young in the hood. the hood. You know what I'm saying? I hustled up on the DJ set and I was just go in the hood just DJ on people's porches. That was kind of my thing but that's how I got into music. You know what I'm saying? So for me it's just like it's like a pastime but you know like the great Andre 3000 said if you can't find the vibe you got to create it. So I just invite dope people over to my career you know what I'm saying curate it you know we might do some some red wine and Popeye's chicken and I might throw on the set and we just get it cracking

That's the sad. That was like he was DJing for real. Yeah, it survived. That's interesting. So that's how you've been feeling like you haven't been finding a vibe lately, so you've been trying to create one? Well, you know, I like to travel a lot, you know what I'm saying? And I like to live, but also I like to, you know,

like turn people on to what I've learned when I've been around the world. So it's less like different types of music, different types of curations. So it's just dope to have people come up to your house that you trust and just vibe. You know, people get tired of going out, cameras everywhere. You know, some very distinguished black. people in Atlanta and they like to really live so I just like come over to my crib man we just hang out you know what I'm saying it's dope though what type of vibe so is it like um is it all rap is no no no that's what I thought I said what he played no his music they was like no

they was like everything yeah house music old school yeah it's vibe you know I'm saying yeah I got so I got a little so I got a little something you should come nick said I'm here the line all y'all are you know what you're gonna tell about everybody in the house She's going to come to the radio and tell everybody you're going. 20-year anniversary of one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all times. Yes, yes, yes. What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit that era? To be honest with you, it feels like that album was supposed to happen.

And even 20 years later, just the obstacles that I had to go through to, you know, get this tour going and everything. It just feels like deja vu, but the consequences are not dire. They're just real life things and you got to show your adversity. And it feels like, I was just talking to somebody about this other day.

It's just like, now a soul survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a soul survivor and I'm listening to the words. I'm like, oh, this is me, this is who I am. You know, when I wrote it,

it was a record. Now this is my life. And it's just like to be 20, because you got to think, like you think about pot and big, you know, what would they, what would they have done 20 years in the game? You know what I'm saying?

You celebrating all eyes on me. Life after death 20 years later. You know, I don't know. I don't know. But I'm living life, and I'm going through, you know, one of those stages where, you know, you get to watch the game line,

watch the streets. You know what I'm saying? I'm in this world, but I'm not of it. You know what I'm saying? So I get to watch it. But at the same time, I already put my work in, So I get to sit back, but I'm dealing with real stuff now, running companies and doing deals and, you know, empowering other people.

So it's now I got to really practice my skills of leadership, but with my catalog behind me because I can stand on that because it's solid, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not, you know, I'm Frankie Beverly and Mays out here. I can keep going if I wanted to, but I don't got to. Do you have survivors remorse at all because I used to? You have so many people that you ran into partners and people that you had. Yeah, I used to. but everybody know me they know I'm solid

you know what I'm saying but at the same time my life is about peace joy and freedom and I ain't even I'm saying that to say a lot of people don't survive the war baby

you know what I'm saying it's like I ain't got no reason to go back ain't nothing to prove you know what I'm saying I'm just trying to live my life make sure my people straight you know

put as many people as I could put on and keep you know just inspiring and involving my culture which is why I'm even doing this symphony tour which is crazy because I think I'm the first one

to ever take a symphony around the world to do a tour, you know what I mean, to celebrate, you know, my first debut album, which is about three, four times platinum. I ain't checked last time. Oh, I can't wait to put on it. That's right. You can go ahead and trap for motivation?

One-on-on-one? Yeah. Come on now. And it's crazy because it's like, you know, the only time I remember putting on a suit is for a funeral or a wedding. It's a celebration. And it's not just about, you know, the music. It's about everybody who came along on this journey with me that are celebrate.

Think about where you were 20 years ago. You know what I'm saying? Where you were 20 years ago and where y'all let, now, this is a celebration of that because that music reminds you at that time you was out there grinding, but look what you grinding too. So this is a reason for everybody put on a suit in a nice black dress and come out and celebrate. And I do want to say this.

This is not the opera. You know what I'm saying? You're not going to sit down and cross your legs. This is a party. You know what I'm saying? At the same time, shout out to Adam Blackstone. you know he helped me produce it Dee Hodges is

he wrote the music he's actually conducting it those brothers are crazy I bought DJ drama with me so you know it's a part that got DJ A's with me it's a celebration when you were making this album 20 years ago

right were you just making songs or were you thinking the future were you thinking catalog because you look at a lot of people in the industry and their catalog is not strong right their first album

the catalog is not strong they can't go on tour were you thinking about that when you was writing this first album or was it just I'm just trying to get At the hood, I'm just... I was just trying to stay alive and free. And I just wanted to be heard.

And the reason why that album is so solid is because I put everything in that. You know, I didn't have another shot. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like no labor was looking for me. You know what I'm saying? I had spent all this money to build this buzz and I had this one opportunity.

You got to think, like, I lost my voice. I tore my vocal cords. You know, I had bells, like all these things happened at one time and I'm just like I was humbled and the album got leaked four weeks before it came out think about that I was up against all that and I'm still like praying

you know what I'm saying and it happened so when I look back 20 years ago like I didn't realize what I was doing but I know to change the trajectory of my family and our generation of wealth and getting my family in a better place that this is all I had you know what I'm saying so I put everything in there

I'm trap or die and this, yeah, everything. By the way, I probably, you know, was riding around, you're still getting it. You know what I'm saying? Right. And the Statue of Libertases is up, so, yeah, I want to put that out there, you know. It's interesting what you said about the record Soul Survivor because at that point in your life, you had survived to a certain extent,

but you didn't feel that way. No. I mean, you got to think about it. I didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession. Wow. Yeah, I was out of it, bro. I was drinking, smoking. smoking, living, I'm just holding on, you know what I'm saying?

Because I didn't know. Then I woke up one day, it's like, damn, I'm still free, you know. So you do it at any moment, it could go down. Oh, yeah. And ain't nothing like that. That's some type of stress you don't even want. You know what I'm saying? Because it's just, it's every day.

It never stops. You're always on edge. You're living from, you know, you're living from a survival mindset. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, when I woke up on that day, when I started to work on the recession, that's when I realized what abundance was. You know what I'm saying, because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know, I was telling another day, man, I got in the gym, got myself together.

My first show in Boston for the recession tour, you know, I get the stage and I'm telling the security guard, hey, yo, they're throwing stuff in me. We got to get out here and get out. He's like, sir, no, they're panties. I'm like, oh, I'm the sex simple girl. I like this, you know what I'm saying? So Proustian Hall was in panties that you didn't realize it. Hard objects. You know, brawls and stuff.

But I'm like, yo, this is different. Because you got to think, when I was doing shows when Doug Motivation came out, all the gangsters was in the front. You know what I'm saying? All the hustlers, it wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans. You know, shout out to the women fans out there.

You know what I'm saying? I'm shocked that you didn't know that you was such a sex symbol. I'm really sitting here like, how did you not? I mean, you know, like in the, you know, like, I didn't know that then. You know what I said? Because you got to think. Like back then when I was doing, you know,

I was. I'm 5'8. I was 260, skiing bad. I went drinking water. My diet was Waffle House and Crystal. You know what I'm saying? I'm partying all day because I didn't know if I was going to be home. You was built like a snowman for real. Yeah, I was in. Big snow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it now. I mean, even on the intellectual level, like, I know that. I can sit down and spar with the best of them. I mean, I know that for a fact. Oh, yeah. We saw you with Neil Long. Yeah, shout to Neil. Shout to Neil. And then I said, I was even saying a lot of women in the comments saying, oh, after the divorce, man, he looked even better after that. Oh, wow. I received that. I was saying that. But I know that that was like an intense time, you know, last year you're going through all of that.

Even with, you know, the custody battle, you did one and everything, where are things with you on your ex now? Peace. That's good. Yeah, peace, man. I just, I'm all about understanding. I'm all about what's the best for everybody. Yeah. The greater, you know, the greater good. And it just like, I'm just telling you, like, my life, right, I tell myself this every day, like, man, this is amazing.

I don't got no enemies. I ain't got no issues. I don't want no enemies. I don't want no issues. I just want peace. I just want joy. And I just want freedom. I love my freedom.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love it. Like, you just talk about, I came up here independently. I just called. Like, I'm coming to the breakfast club. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't got to check in.

I ain't got to, you know, I ain't got to talk to no label. I ain't got to do nothing. Shout out to Def Jam, love y'all. But it's just, like, freedom and ownership is everything, you know what I'm saying? Especially when you're talking art, you're talking culture, you're talking in your mind. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've worked hard my whole life. This is like, this is the season of me.

You know what I'm saying? I'm putting myself first at all costs. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, my peace is everything. Everybody that knows me know that. You know what I'm saying? They call me like, yeah, bro, like, I love you, but don't call me even nothing crazy. You know what I want to ask, you know, how was that because you're very private, very private person,

but that was so public. Did that irk you at all? Like, everybody in your business talking about you? Well, I had to come to the realization that I know who I am and then nobody else can't tell me different. So as long as I stayed on the path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't nothing really to worry about

because anybody didn't know me. I mean, I even heard y'all was up here like, no, I know, I know Jeezy, you know that. But that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like, I ain't on nothing. you know what I'm saying that's I need to be you know what I'm saying and I'm not

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Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So it's just like it comes with the territory, you know what I'm saying? He who wears the crown. It's just like, you know, people talked about Jesus. You know what I'm saying? They're going to talk about everybody. everybody's not going to like you now if i'm a good person to you and you don't like me then

there's a problem but if you don't like me because of what you heard or what you think then i ain't out of my spiritual business i can't do nothing about that you know i'm saying i can't even convince you because your mind is made up however if you know me and and we have some type of interaction interaction i haven't done anything wrong to you then that says more about you than me because now you're judging now you're judging me there's no judgment here because i'm not perfect by far but if i haven't done anything to you, then you can't take that position because, you know, the people around me got real love for me and my friends and in my circle. Like, I never felt any type of just, but the people who wasn't for me, of course.

And that, I mean, that did me as solid. I ain't got even worried about cutting you off. You know what I'm saying? Would you ever get married again? Woo, get me up. I'm going to be all the way honest. I love my freedom. Yeah.

And it has nothing to do with anything in the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just love my freedom. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love it. You know, I think light partners are amazing. You know, I would think so. How did you feel when the internet said

you was trying to highlight near long by any means necessary? They weren't lying. It was not lying. Right. You said, real, don't cheat. They don't wait. I don't know. Hold on.

She said, really? I don't know. But what I went was real. man, I never cheated. Not like that. No, I don't cheat. What do you mean not like that? I'm saying like, that's low-hanging fruit. If I'm locked dead, I'm locked in.

We ain't got to be married. Like, I'm just not a cheater. That's like, I'm not going to cheat my friends. You know what I'm saying? I'm not, that ain't in my blood. That's real. But when you say, I was trying to hollet, yeah, I was, you know, but I had to be respectful because I was still, you know,

finalizing. You know what I'm saying? It was hard. It was tough. Stay and focus. They don't link you with everybody. They're going to link you with everybody I said they didn't look you with Cynthia Bailey

the other day when you did that. No, they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't do that. We sure did. We love Cynthia, man. Shout out to Cynthia. That's her home girl. You know what I'm saying? Nah, no, now. Now, the other one? Yeah. Anything is the finalized.

I just said the other one. You spend the block on that real quick. Oh, who? On the other one. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, everything is finalized, but we good, man. I'm going to press bar. I'm going to hit the park button. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not going to play about that. Oh, so you say we might see her at some of these shows? I mean, listen. She's invited. She's invited. I know she has a beautiful black dress. She's definitely invited. There you go.

I do want to know what, what's the deep album cut that you really enjoy performing? Off Doug Motivation 101. Man, I mean, listen, bro, I can't get past inch, bro. You know what I'm saying? Hit the kitchen lights. And you got to wait until you hear this with the symphony. You know what I'm saying? with the symphony and i need everybody know i'm coming through your city i'm coming through your town

um it's going to be amazing one night only and you got to pull up and going back to your other question about me reaching back out i think it's more important for me to reach forward so shout out to lisk um who i just partnered with um for my non-profit space and and shout out to um the urban league of Atlanta who i reached out with for my uh young CEO program because it's like What is LISC? I know you do that with the Screege Foundation. Yeah, LISC is, so we got two things going right now. We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign going on.

I had a couple of friends that go through that, so we locked in there. But it's definitely for entrepreneurs, young entrepreneurs, you know, tech spaces. Just you have it. Like we're showing them how to set up their lives so that they can win. And same thing with the Urban League of Atlanta. Same thing. We've got the young CEO program. You can go on my Instagram, check.

it out, you know, anybody from the age, what's it, what's the age, it's like, 17 to 24. And we send it up, we're putting them with mentors, all that. And by the way, like, this is who I am. Like, I love this. And somebody asks me, how do you do both? They're all the same. You know what I'm saying?

We still motivate. It's all the same to me. You know, we get to jump on the stage, but then we get to go help some people with prostate cancer. We get to jump on the stage, and we get to go help mentor some kids. You know, I love it. And you're saving people.

You know, you know, people can live a much longer life, And I know I said this last time, but I got to say it again, because you saved me, brother. Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Times bestselling book. Adversity for sale because I ran into a situation where I had an issue with the publishing company, and I called Charlemagne's like, who published your book? And he put me with somebody and we went on to sell a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations.

Yeah, so thank you, my brother. Thank you for all the years of motivation with the music, man. That's right. We appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate you guys. Shout out to the breakfast club. Shout out to you out. Yeah.

Well, there you have it. Yes, sir. It's Jeasy. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious.

Shalomaine Nade. We are the Breakfast Club. Lonal Rosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. A motherfuckin'clock guy got there. Don't play with him. I thought he was up here. This is his first time up there, which is crazy.

Yeah. I only seen you on the road. I know, but I thought you been up here. Ladies and gentlemen, Little John. Little Johnny. What's up, Hey, man, I thank you all for having me. Come on here, good morning.

It's about time. Good morning, everybody. We don't say good morning enough to our fellow brothers and sisters. That's true. That's right. I was a victim of that until I started to change my mindset. Sometimes I would come down, get in the car, going, you know, on the road. I didn't say good morning.

And once I started to change my mindset, I realized that's a good way to start your day and a gesture to someone, whoever you're riding with, you know, the driver, whoever. And then ask them how they're feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say, how is your day going?

Yeah. You know? I found myself sometimes I'm really in tune to my spiritual side. I've been for a long time. Sometimes I might just be in, I remember being in a club, and I might walk by a random person, and I can feel their energy, and I'd be like, let me just get you a hug. Oh, wow. And sometimes that just changes somebody's life.

Absolutely. What about when you were the person that might have been creating the energy, though? Like if you felt like some aggressive angreness from this person, but it was your fault because of your set that you just did. Well, you know, I'm going to tell you one time, I was in South Carolina. Hey. And a hole in the wall club. And it was supposed to be a night where cash money was supposed to be there. And they called me because cash money couldn't come.

So these folks in South Carolina was mad than a motherfucker. And we was not cash money. Little Johnny Eastside boys show up. And so I understand it's a hostile situation, but I said, I looked out on that crowd and I said the biggest dude in this crowd, I'm about to make him my best friend. And I made him my best friend during the show,

like playing to him, giving him drinks, and hyping him up. And then he turned, like, it turned the whole crowd around and then they were fans of us after that. But it was a way, you can always change the energy of a situation if you approach you to a calm manner.

That's why good security don't go and, like, try to fight somebody. They try to diffuse the situation. That's the first rule. It's defuse it, not be the aggressor. Little John, I want to go back, so this is your first time. Well, real quick, though. What is a little John morning routine like? I knew you were going to ask me that.

What is the little John morning routine? So this morning, I woke up, had a little water. Because, you know, I do my, I do this Korean facial stuff, so I do, you know, my skin is very important. My skin looks very good. How do my skin look, ladies? It looks really good. Yeah. Love it.

One rule for that is positivity, positive energy, positive thoughts, because if you're a negative person, all this negativity, it's going to wear the flesh down. So get up in the morning, do my skincare routine, brush my teeth, all that good stuff. I'm always in my mind saying affirmations for the day, even before I go to bed, in my dreams. Like last night, I was like, it's going to be a great interview. I look at this as one of the biggest interviews I've ever done in my life because, it's a lot to talk about Charlemagne, you've seen me grow

from, I think one time we talked you were like, you came to the radio station in South Carolina one time. That was early on. He wasn't even on air yet, right? Were you on air? I think it was a phoner you called in. You had just put out, I think you had just put out beer, beer. Wow. So that's

20 years ago. Yeah, we were talking about you having the Confederate flag in the video. And I'll ask me about that. So that's, you know, you've seen the growth and I think it's important because, yeah, you've seen it grow, you've seen it from a different angle, you've seen it from a different angle, you've seen it from a different angle, and, you know, you guys moved the needle of culture, and you've had everybody and their grandmama on this show. So I think it's one of the most important and, you know, best interviews I think I'm going to have because of all of that.

Let's claim it. Let's claim it. I want to go back. I want to start from the beginning. These are the interviews I love because for some reason I thought you've been up here before. So I want to start, when you first got into the music industry, right? Let's start with you started working for Jemain Dupree. Yep.

93. Start from there. So how did you hook up with Jemain Dupree? And what did you do for Jemain Dupree? So I used to be in Atlanta in the 90s. I was like the hottest DJ in the city. I was the man. I did all the parties.

And I would see Jermaine all the time at the clubs. And then I did this one club called the Phoenix Night Club, which was the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time. We brought Biggie. We brought Biggie. I got Biggie and Craig Mack together when they did the Big Mac tour. Wow.

So I got them. I worked on the radio station, but I wasn't the PD. And you know how back then you had to go through the PD because you wanted to get the spins for your artists. So Diddy, you know, he let us get Biggie and Craig because he thought I was like the PD. And he'd get there and the club is slammed like a million people.

And he's like, Yo, we need some more money because this thing is packed. And then he found out that I wasn't the PD. Oh, that. And so he was extra pissed. And then he even tried to get the rep that worked for BMG at the time fired because she got, because we got Craig and Biggie for free. Wow.

So, yeah. That was normal back then, when artists were on a promo to him? Yeah, but you wanted to go through the station so you can make sure you get to spin. You can get to look. And we wasn't that, but we were high promoters. So I was doing all the hot parties and I would just see Jemain all the time. But even if I wasn't DJ and I was everywhere. Like I had a thing where I was, I wanted to be from, I called it from bankhead to buckhead.

I was from the boozy spots to the most hood you can get in Atlanta. So I was literally everywhere. And Jermaine came to me. So he hired me in 1993. I started working at Soso Dev and I was hired to do A&R and street promotions because I was everywhere. Right. So he wanted, he wanted someone. that had respect in the city

that could go anywhere and someone like me that I was always out so that was represent social death from bankhead like I said to Buckhead. And what artists did you have been in A&O for social death at that time? I had, I put together all of the social deaf base all-stars

and... At night, I think the whole... Very slept-on era of Atlanta. Yeah, and that changed that changed music too. Like, it gave us a whole genre that had never been created. Like, had never been done before. And that all started because in Atlanta, we used to do, like, it was DJ Jelly, shout

out DJ Jelly, shout out the J-Team, DJ Smurf and all of those guys. They would take, like, slow-jam acape Acapellas, like, say, one famous mix was, can you stand the rain, new edition, and put it over a bass beat. So they used to do all of these mixes like that. They would just do a whole mix tape. It would be all bass beats. and then these R&B Acapellas. And so I was like, we love this so much in the city.

Let's take that and make a record from that. Nobody made an actual song. So I came up with that concept, and I went to my boy DJ Cool Kali, aka Rodney. And then at the same time, I met Carl Mo. He used to call the phone at So So Def and play his tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one day I'm like, these tracks is dope. So I called him to the office, and he comes up there with a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard.

Like, just playing the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape, just playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy. So I ended up in using him, and we did my boo. And so, yeah, I did all of the Social Def Base All-Stars. And then out of that, we had Player Poncho. He got signed, and we did a couple of records with Player Poncho. And Player Poncho is actually how I met the East Side Boys. Because player poncho would always

When he would go out He would have a whole like 20 10 20 guys with him And the east side boys was always with him Even if it was just like two or three guys And so me and the east side boys Just one day we were in the club And we just started chanting this chant

Who you with? Who you with? Who you with? Get cross, who you with? And then everybody in the club Start chanting and then I look at Big Sam I'm like, we need to turn this into a song And so I know I have access to people with labels and stuff. So I called somebody I knew.

Actually, I called Cool Ace. This guy named Cool Ace. And Cool Ace connected me with this guy named Carlos Glover. And we ended up going in the studio and we made the song Who You With. And that started everything for Little John as an artist.

I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Boat, too, because people always seem to forget about the East Side Boys. What did they bring to the table? What made Little John and the East Side Boys such an amazing group? We were the sound of the rowdy guys in the back of the club.

That's what we were. We were the s that were turned up in the back that you just be looking back like, make sure they ain't coming over here with that good. So we were that. And what people don't understand about crunk music, I know some people are like, why did it do what it do?

Why did it spread? Why did it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy for black youth. Yes. When you went to the club, you had a hard-ass week, you had a hard life, whatever the fuck was going on in your life,

you hear that fucking crunk music and you get in that damn mosh pit and you let all of that out and you feel amazing. You know what I mean? So that's why crunk music was able to reach so many people. That's why I still like going,

like I see you talking about the time about knuckers you buck as a Negro spiritual. And it is. Like it touches your soul in a certain way and I think we do in like crunk music tap into music to their ancestors because they were chanting and so on and so

forth. What did you do when you were banned from clubs? I remember in college there was some clubs that were like you cannot play none of that in this club. Yeah, put your hood up and all that stuff. We just kept going. Because when you tell somebody you can't have it, they wanted more. You know,

I've seen people, I was in Louisiana one time we did a show and they got so turned up. They started fighting the police in the club. Amazing times. This is an amazing time. You're amazing times, man. Yeah, it was crazy. I think it's just a testament to, like,

we just brought something different, you know? And, like, the kids now think they are turning up, but they have no idea what a real turned-up time was from the 2000. And get crunk was such a great record because I didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of Crunk. You know, I'm not even joking. I didn't think you could get crunker than that, but as soon as you hear who in my, Bo Hagan, being me, my, you're like, God.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Hogan killed that salute, Bo Hagan out there. How did you even have the mindset to take that to another level? How did you take that energy to another level? That beat was produced by Liljay, who produced Nuck of You Buck. Wow. So it was time to, you know, come and work on the album, and, you know, everybody down with B&Me.

Of course, people that don't know Crime Mob, part of that was through B&Me. So we are part of putting them out there. So, of course, I call all of the squad, you know, Trilville helped me write some of the songs. and yeah little jay sent me i think he sent me some beats and that was one of the beats and i was like this is insane

wow i thought it was one of the cruckest beats ever too absolutely i think my favorite beats that i've produced or co-produced or been on is get crunk and what you're going to do and what you're going to do is unique i was in new york when i did that beat i remember

i was on tbt and steve got leave and shout out to brine Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach, he was the A&R at the time. He was like, yo, you got to go in and knock out this song for this. I think it was like a Christmas album or something, Christmas Crunk album that Steve Gottlie wanted to put out. And I'm like, he can't put no fucking album out called Crump without me.

So I was like, fuck this guy. And so I was in New York and Brian was like, you got to go in and record this song. So I was angry when I made that beat. I'm never mad when I make tracks. But that's one of the only beats I've ever made when I'm. and I was angry, and that's why I sound so aggressive. Because I was mad that I had to go in the studio and record this. I wanted to just go out.

Like, I was like, I'm going to the club. He was like, no, you got to go in to do this song. And so that's my anger coming out through the drummers. Did you have a trademarked the word, Crunk? I can't remember. Probably. Did all my ad lips. I know that.

Because you're the face of Crunk, but to me I would have to give, I would take 3-6 Mafia are probably the father-s of- So that's another argument. going around. It's an argument that says Memphis started crunk. Here's my, here's what I will say. We in Atlanta, you couldn't be Atlanta in the 90s and not be listening to eight ball, MJG. You couldn't be riding around not listening to MasterPee. Master P changed the landscape of the South. The South. Period. That's right. He was the first one that really got us rowdy. I would say it was Master P.

But we was listening to Ball and G. And, of course, Of course, 3-6 Mafia came around that. You think P got us Roddy before 3-6? I think about it, bowed it. Bout it, bowed it. Yeah, but tear the club up. I bet you won't hit him. B-Bah-ha-the-club was 97.

What year did it about it, about it come out? I was in college, had to be 95. I think it was like 95. 95. I remember what happened was in the club. In Atlanta, it was playing bass music. And then when Master P came, that was over. About it, about.

That was 95. Definitely, I was a freshman in college. That was the record. in the hood was getting no limit tattoos. 1995. Exactly. That's what changed it for us.

So I will say Memphis is part of the influence, but it started for us with Master Pete. Master, that bout about it just changed everything. But we are influenced, but it's all different sounds. But it all intertwines and works together. What moment made you realize Crunk had officially crossed

from sovereign energy to a global movement? coming up doing MTV. They let me get in Times Square on a double-decker bus with Lil Scrappy on TRL doing what you gonna do. Brud, MTV?

I was gonna say MTV too because I remember watching the video music was. I forgot what year it was. They played Get Low going in the commercial break. And the audience went crazy and Justin Timberlake was wilding.

And I just remember thinking to myself, oh, get low. is out of here. Yeah. And then we end up performing Get Low at the MTV Video Music Awards. Get Low, yeah.

Lean back. That was a pretty insane year for me. Can you tell us the origin story of lovers and friends? So in Atlanta, we go to the strip club for everything. So we always, you know, I was in the strip club one day

and the DJ played the Michael Sterling Lovers and Friends and I was like, huh, that could be pretty cool for Usher to do. So let's back up. So this is before Usher's album is done. I give Usher the Michael Sterling on the CD like,

check this out. We should do this over. This, I don't listen to it. He don't listen to it. So we're on my album. So I'm like, I'm going to take that lovers and friends idea and do it for my album. So I do the beat over and I let us know, yo, I got this joint for us like, come, you know, let's do it.

So he flies in, he records it, and he's out. And after he does his part, so I'm just, like, wow, this is a smash. So I called Luda. I'm like, bro, we got another one. Like, I need you on this ASAP. And then Luda, he did his parts. And then I go in last.

Because I'm not the rapper. And so I was like, I need to take my time to make sure my verse is as catchy as possible because I can't compete against Ludacris. And then it's Usher. Like, come on. So I was like, let me take something from this record. We had a record called,

it's a record we did with Ubi. I forgot the name of it. Nothing's free. Nothing's free. How you forget that? That's a classic. Nothing's free. So we did nothing free like in the 90s. And so I was like, that shoddy part was really catchy on that song, but it was regional. Nobody

really heard it out of the South. So I was like, let me take that same little thing and put that in lovers and friends and that would be the little catch for my verse to make it catchier. And little did I know that I was going to be like people's favorite verses. Because it's It's so simple.

It's so simple and it's catchy. And yeah, that's one. That song went number one without a video. Why we never got a video for that record? Because it was the labels and superstartists and superstar dad and da-da-da-da-da. But number one, rap song of the year without a video in the 2000s is impossible. What made you do the meditation home? So that's totally far the other end of the spectrum.

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me because he's like a couple months younger than me. So he's like, oh, you're all. man so we're talking and um he was telling me he wanted to introduce me to somebody that was in this space and i was like oh that's interesting because i've been listening to like all of this like binaural beats to sleep and relax and ocean and rain and all of this type of stuff so me and this guy kabir his name's kabir sego we connected and so i'm going through the divorce and like I didn't like where my mental state was at because I'm angry. I'm like, ah, why can't she just do this and that? So I'm like mad and I don't like, that's not me.

I'm a positive at all times person. I don't think negatively. So I started to like meditate every day. I started to say affirmations every day. And it helped me to be in a better mental state, as well as having good people in my corner like my queen. Her name is Jamila. she was there for me at that time and she would give me like also like just positive she would

just keep me try to keep me in a positive mindset and she had been through a rough divorce too so she can give me some insight and just you know help me keep my head up so we went in we recorded these albums and you know this time of my life is feeling like I'm doing what God intended me to do but what's amazing is everything that got me here I was supposed to do and even like all of the music that I've given people, gave people positivity. So it's always been positivity, but it's meaning more now when someone tells me, I never meditated. You help me meditate.

I was having trouble getting over this grief of losing someone. Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to, you know how many people have called me about getting in the gym? Yeah. It's insane, like celebrities, all kind of people are like, you inspire. me to get healthy. So I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me to do. It took me a long time to get here, but this is, it's the time it's supposed to be. And crazy, I was thinking about just the other day. I met Mr. Farrakhan at the Source Awards. One time. And he basically

told me, he said, you got power. You got a voice. And he basically was kind of trying to tell me, like, use it. And that, like, that stuck with me like, I'm like, okay. but now I'm using my voice and my power in a good way to push positivity into the world. So that is what makes you happy. That's what makes what, you know what? Yeah, it makes me happy that. Okay.

Just to be, just to do good, you know. Just to do good because all that comes back. And when you, like a guy came to me, I did the Coligard thing, right? A guy came to me in the club One night in the club And was like, I did that coli guard test Because of you

And it came back positive And he did He didn't have colon cancer But he had polyps So just stuff like that It just makes me feel like I'm doing good in the work You know my brother

You're sure We definitely are And being a good role model To my son I have a daughter now You know, she's 10 months old Congratulations And I look at life like

with health like um i got to be here for her you know i'm saying i got to be here for her first day of school i got to be here for high school graduation walk her down the aisle so health is even more important to me it was something i was doing to just you know live a long full life but even more so now i have even more motivation because of my daughter and her mother i got to be here for them yeah it's crazy to see you cry because a lot of people who never even thought you had eyes. No, you know what? Black man, we need to cry more.

I agree. We need to cry. When you get more in tune to your higher self and you stop vibrating at these low frequencies, you can let yourself let the energy flow because we should. We don't have to be tough all the time. And you're an advocate for therapy. I push all brothers.

We don't have to suffer in silence. We suffer in freaking silence. Call your homie sometimes. It'll just be like, my, you good. How you do? doing not just period but how you mentally doing bro because that one little conversation could make him not go do some stupid or take his life or whatever you know so I started doing therapy I pushed anything any knowledge that I got I try to share with everybody because we got

we got to help each other that's right we all we got for sure you got me up here crime you said today was going to be a good day great anything you might have needed to release Really good. Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can come with success and entertainment? No, because they just see the private jets and the trips and all that. They don't realize, you know, sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you. You can't spend time with your loved ones without people bugging you. Or the, I got to make another hit record.

Or, you know what I mean? Like, or even when you start to go down, you're not as hot as you were. people not picking up the phone and all that yeah it's a lot of most people couldn't deal with this life it could not deal with it because it's too much pressure then people on the internet with all their opinions and all of this and that and it's a lot of pressure that you cannot be built weak to be in entertainment industry yeah when you when you my last question when you think about legacy now how much of it is about peace and purpose rather than i guess the plaques in the parties and all that I think my legacy is going to be all about positivity,

because every step of the way, it's been, crunk was positive. It was a positive release. Now in my latter years, it's meditation, mindfulness, get therapy, fellas. I'm going to tell everybody out there, get therapy. That's right. Get a therapy.

If it's going through it, you should not be left to your own devices to deal with some serious issues. Sometimes you need to talk to someone that's a qualified person. And I did EMDR. Did you ever do EMDR? I never did EMDR. EMDR is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When I did EMDR, stuff came out that I didn't even really didn't know what's there.

So it can tap to the, it can find the root of why you got that trauma. I was able to go to my childhood self and say, it's okay. Wow. I'm here. It's fine. Yeah. You're loved, you're appreciated, you know, all of that. And it helped me to get past.

whatever that was. And the more you do it, the more stuff comes to you and you just realize. This is why I'm the way I am. I can now get past this and I can change these habits, you know, and I can live a better life. Wow.

Man, little John, you are an icon living. That's right. You're an icon living, and you're one of the greatest producers of all time. You bought people so much joy in this next chapter of your life where you are helping people heal. I think it's going to be your best work yet, my brother.

I think so, too. I do too. Yeah. Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for Donkey of the King. I'm ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did.

I'm not making new people do these things. I'm called Donkey of the Day, and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Solomon, who got the donkey of the day today? Well, just hilarious. Donkey Today goes to Ann and Bernard McDonough. Okay, they are 39 and 41 years old. And I am reluctantly giving them donkey a day this morning because truthfully, This is one of the most romantic stories I've ever heard.

See, when you're in a relationship, you are always looking for new things to do, okay? New things to try with your significant other. You have to keep things interesting in the relationship. And these two absolutely did that. Let me read the headline for you. The headline is, Dine and Dash couple busted for hitting five restaurants for $1,200 in free meals. I repeat, Dine and Dash couple busted for hitting five restaurants for $12. $1,200 in free meals.

See, what it happened was, Anne and Bernard have been accused of dining at five different restaurants, all within a 30-mile radius of each other, and leaving without paying their tab. Before you ask, from the pictures I see, yes, they are big backs, okay? Wide-bodied individuals, all right? One of them so big that if she wore yellow, kids would run after her thinking they missed a school bus, respectfully.

Okay? Now, these folks just weren't going to different restaurants, you know, to get an item here or there. You know, you may order some chicken from KFC, but then, you know, get your sides from Popeyes. No, these individuals who are so big, they could sit on Walmart and make the prices go down, we're eating full-blown meals at these establishments, okay? This is the epitome of big back activity. See, God can't bless what you pretend to be, so you need to be yourself.

And if you are yourself, a blessing as big as Anne's back is on its way to you. Now, let's be clear, this is gluttony to the highest degree, because the couple used to go to these. restaurants and they would go with a party of six. They would order and eat large meals, which often cost upward of $400. They would eat quickly. And then four members of the party would exit leaving Ann behind. And Ann would be with a little small child, like a four-year-old child. They would leave Ann behind to pay the bill. Anne would act like she was paying the bill, okay, with a card. Then the card would get declined. Then she would say she needed to get another card from the car. She'd walk to the car. They'd ask.

Ask the little boy to stay and wait for her in the restaurant. And then when the woman would get to the car, after about 10, 15 seconds, the little boy would run out to the car. Man, the clumps is wilding. Okay, what I don't understand is if you can put this much energy into a crime of food consumption, how come you can't put that same energy into unbigging your back? And furthermore, if you can put this much energy into being a snack scammer, how come you can't put just as much energy into getting a job

so you don't have to steal from people. Now, the owners of these restaurants would call police, but police would tell them this isn't an emergency, and all they could do is report the incident. This is disgusting. You call the police to report a herd of humans coming into your establishment and stealing, and nobody does anything.

But imagine the urgency that would happen if they called and said their restaurant just got invaded by a herd of buffalo. Every single law enforcement division would show up and animal control to get this herd of buffalo under control So the same sense of urgency should be applied to a herd of humans who are as big as buffaloes. Now, what's even sadder is an owner of the restaurant said they sent CCTV recordings.

I guess those are the camera recordings from the restaurant. They would send the recordings from the restaurant. They would send photos. They even sent the registration plate number of the car. And the response from law enforcement was this vehicle is connected to many people. Well, go investigate all the many people then. now we can take that for what it is and say hey the vehicle is connected to many people or we can say one of these individuals is so big that they get mistaken for many when 50 cents

said many men wish death upon him we knew that meant a lot so you know how big one person got to be for you to refer to them as many to be fair though the whole party not big backs just like two of them and they white so they look like twitter eggs from 2014 but let's think about the bright side of this. I know a good romantic comedy when I hear one. Just call Alvin Gray right now. Okay? Call Alvin Gray. We're about to go into production on

Loving Big Backs coming to To Be Real soon. Open and scene. Open and scene, we're going to show them getting baptized at SeaWorld. Oh, you know what though? Hold, oh, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. I got a better name for this romantic comedy. We can change Ann's name to Stella and call it

How Stella got her Big Back. That's it. That's it right there. Please, please give Ann and Bernard McDonough the biggest he-ha. And let's not forget what they did is wrong. And that's why they were arrested and charged with five counts of fat fraud and charged with four counts of theft. Jesus.

Well, rightfully so. They should have been. That's right. He said fat fraud. Yes, yo. Jesus. I know they didn't put regular handcuffs on them either, but that's a whole different story. how Anne got her big back

Yes We just got to change her name to Stella though We changed her name to Stella for the movie How Stella got her big back Oh my God Oh boy All right What do we call Alvin Gray

I'm gonna call him I'm gonna call him yo Although Alvin Gray Do you have a movie called Check Please Where they run out on checks But they got big back Gary does my man is out here I'm working for real

You gotta watch it It's another one Amazon Prime. It's on Amazon Prime, YouTube, and Tubeby. Man, stop. It is. If you all ever believe nothing I say it's called Check Please and they do that, it's a movie about guys running out on the check. But it's funny. It's like it's a storyline behind and everything.

Man, you is not lying. I just looked it up, man. I told you. Man, hold on, man. Hold on. Alvin Gray got the rapper who got shot in the hill, the nurse that saw the baby on the highway. And check, please. Yeah.

Oh, I got a hold. Now, this one, I got the watch. You got one called Blackwater Sasquas. Oh, my God. That's the number one. No. That's the one. You got to say Blackwater Sasquatch is really good.

It's about Bigfoot? I ain't going to tell you. What is going on here? Yeah, but it's good, though. It's black, though. It's like a black film. I'm watching that. That's going to get me to Tubey.

I'm watching that today. And it's free. Oh, my goodness. Good morning, everybody. It's the EJ. J. NV. Jess Lari. Sholomey and the guy.

We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. J.D. Jermaine Dupre. What's happening? How are you feeling? He's looking at the wall.

I'm looking at the wall. We ain't got JD on the wall? I don't know. I don't think I don't think I made the wall. That's all right. I haven't really got J.D. on the wall. Yeah, y'all ain't got me up there. See, the wall represents, like, iconic breakfast club moments.

Not that you haven't given us great interviews. I haven't had it. You know what I'm saying? You have had some. You never stormed out the studio. You ain't ever slacks, all the main threatening. Yeah, I don't have nothing to do. You never throw a chair.

Yeah, I'm out of that. I'm not in that conversation. But you have always coming in and giving us great conversation, man. I've been enjoying the Magic City docu-series. Thank you. And it got me to thinking about, like, just Atlanta. Like, in Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as music is concerned. But what is Atlanta culture exactly?

Is it the script clubs? Yeah. 100% That's one of the things Skating It's a bunch of different things Like the bass music And a bunch of different things

But we haven't We've never really highlighted these things The way I guess I'm trying to do And make sure that people Understand that that's what it is Because I think like People think like

Even with the strip club situation It was me And whoever else was promoting This from a long time ago Just black people Trying to promote strip clubs And you learn from the documentary that this was a law that was passed in the city and might be more states

in the south that nudity was something that they opened the floodgates and made it a business right so even me growing up I never realized why it was so many strip clubs in Atlanta it was a strip club damn no every corner in every hood in Atlanta and I never understood I just thought we was just a strip club place but when you look at this documentary you start going outside and looking at all the other places like in Florida and all these other places you're like oh it's a it's a law that was passed right and I used to come to like New York when we used to do things in wherever I go to other cities and be like man why these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs and the law is a real law that gave us the entryway to just have

this going so yeah that's a that's an Atlanta thing you know is Magic City the the biggest strip club and the most recognized strip club in the U.S. I think, I mean, I think it's been, it's been a couple, you know, over the years. I think Magic is in the top three, of course. But, like, booby-trapping Miami. King of Diamond. King of Diamond is when, I mean, you know, Miami's always had, you know, I mean, they've always had these trip clubs.

Turn over yet. And I think, V-Live. V-Live, I think that's Houston, right? Yeah. So I think Houston, there's a couple of places that's got, but I don't think Houston can get naked, though. That's the thing. It's like, we're talking about nudity as far as strip clubs.

is Miami and Miami in the top list it but yeah Atlanta was nudity nudity Yeah So what made you want to do Atlanta need that infrastructure now Because when I think about Magic City I know people look at it as just a tibah But when I'm watching the DACA even just growing up

I think of it as infrastructure This is a place where people went to break record No I want to say I mean that's the thing like I was going to answer your question The reason why I wanted to do it is because You know we don't talk about The places that actually helped us get to where we are

you know what I mean that that part of hip hop stopped a long time ago like when you watch like Wild Style right when there's a person that's not from New York I watch Wild Style you can see like how Grandmaster Kaz them what they was doing to become and made

what made hip hop turn into what it was here in New York and in the later years of hip hop what shows or anything show kids how we got you know what I mean how we got to where we are. And I think that, you know, it's important for black establishments to show, like, it's a 40-year-old black establishment. The owner went to jail. They tried to sell his property. He took it back over,

and now it's back popping in there. He got a TV show. Like, that's an American dream. You know what I mean? Like, regardless of whatever good or bad, it's a black American dream that we don't ever really be talking about. Does Atlanta need that infrastructure now? Huh? Is it needed now? Yeah, 100%. I mean, we need it more than any of everybody i mean not just Atlanta like a bunch of cities need to it's probably a bunch of other cities that's got like 40 to 50 year old black establishments that i don't that i don't even know about well you think ruined uh strip clubs because at one time there was a strip club in every city they were always big there was 15 in Atlanta it was 10 in new york what do you think ruined the strip club safety right that i think that's why magic

stands out so much because you can go in magic with all your jury on you can go in magic and be the biggest star in the world and be standing next to the biggest criminal in the world, but whatever would happen somewhere else, ain't getting ready happen in Magic. And I say that proudly because even me, I go to Magic without security, like, because

the security in there going to take care of me like if they was working for me. And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta, so I feel like that, I feel like the safety of strip clubs and how Magic ran the club, strip club etiquette I think that is that that's what

killed strip clubs for the most part now also i noticed you know growing up when we used to go to strip clubs you go with a couple dollars right and you would you would be fine all night that's totally changed no that's not that's just your mental okay right that's just people's mental space right if magic city's like overly crowded i'll go stand by the bar and i might spend 500 to a thousand dollars that you know and by the way jady that's a lot of money i was talking about $100,000 at the bar. I'm just saying, let me put this in perspective. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.

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Because I hear when people say those numbers and I'm like, I don't believe it. No, I swear to God. On God. $200,000? On God. A hundred went to Chris, right? I've seen people order 100,000 singles. Yeah, I mean, 100 went to Chris without a doubt.

And magic, in magic, they go, when you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag upstairs for you backpack So the backpack Had a hundred in it Jada waiter Y'all know Jada right She got about a dove

Right I think maybe more P from QC I think he ordered 40 Right in the end You know that's 160 right there You know what I'm saying Chris by himself had 100 That's what I'm saying

So if you start splitting it up I think Bow Wow probably got 10 Or 15 20 You're at 200 fast So when you was in the back of the day with BMF, how much did you see them spend that one? On my album, I have a conversation with Meach, and he says he spent $600,000 one night. That's insanity. That's crazy.

What's the most you spent? And now you were in there with Janet. What did you spend? I mean, I had a limit. Like, when everybody heard me say I spent $10,000, that was my limit. So once I got to that 10, I wasn't trying. But by the way, I'm not in there trying to compete. I always felt like, you know, at one point in time when BMF came,

or when BMF grew because I've been in the club with Meach for a long time before BMF was a crew like that and we used to be at the gentleman's club back in when you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was burnt down or whatever

and everybody went to the gentleman's club that's back in the period of time when I actually met Meach and Meach didn't have the crew of people with him and we was in the gentleman's club and in the gentleman's club it was like what he said we weren't really throwing the money we was just like giving the girls the money right and that's that's where the whole confusion about

who started throwing the money came from because i started doing this in money and a thing video and i know people want to say they did it and did it will you find a video that came out before money in a thing where you see rappers throwing money like this right and that i never had a like it wasn't about me trying to challenge nobody it got to it got to be like when each of them crew came and it was like oh damn they throwing more money we We got to throw, it became like a money war. I was never, I was never part of that. When I think about Mariah Carey getting, you know, the accolades,

she got the other night at the VMA. I don't know if that happens without you. And what I mean by that is Mariah had a fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album that kind of solidified her forever. I was talking to her about this yesterday. And I was saying, like, it would have happened without me. But Mariah is such a New York hip-hop person. that she wants to gravitate towards this shit, right?

As opposed to, like, promoting the Boys and Men record, which was, no, her first song of the decade, right? She didn't even perform that song the other night. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she got records that's bigger than the records I did, that she just like, yeah, you know, we can redo this tonight. This is what we're going to do. Listen, I love it because I'm a part of it,

but don't get a twist of these songs. You know what I mean? she got records that she could do that's like hero you know what I mean these songs that's huge that made her Mariah had sold 30 million records before I even worked with her you know what I'm saying like that charm bracelet

and then that what was that movie called I don't even remember now Sparkle like that was a bad it was dark yeah but one black eye can't kill you no that's true but then you came back with emancipation to meet me and that's a nuclear bomb I mean that's not a normal

I mean yeah I just I always look at that, like, I am really, I can't take credit for Mariah. She's who she is and she was who she was before. You know, I'm just happy that she let me be a part of the ride. I think that puts more pressure on you, though. And what I mean by that is when you're tasked with going in there with an iconic person already and creating something that gets them, you know, back seeing the way that they were seen before their, you know, last flop. That says a lot, that you was able to accomplish that.

They didn't put pressure on me? I would think so back then. Nah, because I don't think about it. Like, you know, like, the thing about it is when I go in the studio of people, I don't be like, I don't get caught up in what's happening in their life. And I think that that was what was going on in her life outside of the studio. I go in the studio and I'm like, I say this all the time. When I work with Aretha Franklin, she made me realize, like, listen,

if you're going to be in here working and I'm going to pay you and we're going to let you get this credit, you better say what the fuck you got to say if I sound bad. If I don't even sound halfway good, she was like, tell me to do it again. And I'm like, I can't tell Eretha Franklin nothing. Like, this Eretha Franklin. But the way she was talking to me was like, I flew you here to Detroit to cut my vocals.

So what you're going to do? You're going to sit there and just watch me? If that's, I'm going home, that's what she told me. She says, literally, I'm going home. That's what you're going to do. And that's when I set that for a man. I'm like, you know what? I got to do this.

I just got to be brutally honest with artists. And when it came to emancipation to me and me, we belong together. We made the song. I'm like, listen, Mariah, if you don't hit the note at the end of the record, the record ain't going to be what people want the record to be. They want you to, that's what they want. We got to give them what they want.

And it was like, nobody else wanted to say this. I had to say it. And I had to be like, you know, if you don't like me for saying what is real, then why are we in the room together? What was one of the artists that didn't like you being brutally honest? That was like, nah, this is not for me. Nobody, I don't think nobody. I mean, I think everybody wants, they don't want to address it.

but when it's right they're like oh okay you know but a lot of them like you know Bawa didn't like oh I think they like me Usher didn't like you wrestle with him every time you're in the studio that's what I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want to and you have to sit there and be like man

that's crazy why what are you listening to that make you not like this song what was it about the emancipation of Mimi that got her back to where she needed to be was it the freedom that maybe you provide it because I saw the brat telling this story about how Tommy Matole got guns pulled on you because you let Mariah go to bird.

I didn't let them do nothing. They pulled off and went on their own. But, yeah. So tell a story because I don't know the story. Okay, so the first time I started working on Mariah, I decided to do it always be my baby remix, right? So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And this was the first time me, I started bringing my people around Mariah. And I brought Brat her and Brack kicked it.

They hit it off. And she convinced Brat or either Brat convinced her. Let's take a trip in the car, just me and you and go to McDonald's or some old shit like this. So they left together. No security left the ground without me knowing. And the shit showed up in the studio like, what's going on? I'm like, I seen my fucking running around. And all was looking at me like, JD, this is your person.

She didn't run off with Mariah. Like, what the fuck? Like, that was a crazy moment. This is my first time being there. This is my first time at her house. And I bring some... This is just like a story. You bring some of the house over to the house,

and this is what happened. And I'm in the house like this. Like, I'm just trying to make a record, man. What the fuck is going on? Like, where are you at? Yeah, I called her. She's like, we're just getting some prize. And I'm like, what?

Why? And she was saying that Mariah just, like, at that period in time, Mariah was... You know, this was a different type of success. life at this point real celebrity yeah she wasn't the artist that could go outside and go to McDonald's or she wasn't even doing that

like she was sheltered in the house and she she just wanted to get out and brat was her her person that was ready to go escape and do it that's great so was it that level of freedom you provided her that's what it's because I'm called the emancipation yeah no I just I just think I think I make Mariah comfortable

right and I don't I don't fake with her about the music that we should make and I think that's what what makes her feel free, you know, free. Because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody, if you sing, make singing records, man. Like, hey, like, I get it. You want to rap.

And I'm a rapper at heart. But I learned how to make music. And I learned through the success that I've had that these people want these records to sound like the records that they know. The audience don't change, right? So I just have to keep beating that in people's minds and letting them know.

Like, listen, you might want to, change your shit up. But the person that's listening, they want the new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record that they heard before. And that's always a hard fight with artists. Did you ever take her majesty?

Yeah. No, no, no, no. She won't, she probably won't go to this. That ain't. That ain't her bag. Now, back to Usher. You said Usher didn't like make me want to. Yeah.

Why not? What's the problem with that? I don't know. And how'd you get him to, how'd you force him to finally do it? Well, I mean, I had to force him, but he just let me know it wasn't like, that wasn't where he'd felt he should be coming with.

At this point in time, Usher was still not sure where his career was going go, so he still cut the song, luckily. But if we was in that space right now, he's not going to cut the song. Right now, he ain't going to be like, I don't with that song. Right now, he don't care. He don't like it. No, I'm not doing it.

Yeah, it's not even going to get cut. Even now? Right now, I would trust you to. No, right. He's going to be like, right now, I'll be like, yo, Usher, Usher, please cut this song. Usher, turn his phone off. Like, when you're

name is mentioned 50 years from now. What's the one record or one artist you want to define your legacy? I don't know who the artist is. Somebody great. I mean, I think, you know, I think, like, watching Mariah get Vanguard Award and her performing in that piece, two of records that I did, I think that means, that means a lot. You know what I mean? Like, you're almost like you're saying, it's like, my records are loud enough to make people damn to believe that I had something to do with her success. To me, that's a mean accomplishment because I didn't

have anything to do with her becoming who she is. No, that's not true. That's not true. I mean, no, because it's a second wave. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think I might have made more black people like her.

Yes. But she's still Maraicari. Yeah, but it says something when you, me, I mean, I get it. And that's her best album. I get it. Manifficit Mee is Mara Carey's best album.

Absolutely. That's probably the definitive album of her whole career. That's her thriller. This is. I don't know. I don't know. What's the hardest personal sacrifice

you've made for your career? Life. I don't really have no life. I just be making music. You know what I mean? And I have people that tell me this all the time. Like, J.D., you know, you don't really, you, my baby and mothers be saying,

it's like, you know, your life is the music. All you do is care about the music. All you care about is putting out records. All you care about is doing what you're doing every day. And that's the truth. It is. That's what it is. I don't care about nothing else.

You don't enjoy the money? You don't go on vacation? I mean, I come along. with it but that's not that's not a chase for me like my chase is to be you know like what they said on the billboard I get number one I feel like I feel like I finally

did something by getting number one on that list but that it's never enough because you want more no but now it's like but it's but it's also like fighting it's like boxing you gotta can you stay in that space right you know what I'm saying it's like watching Floyd and Tyson talk about they going to fight

it's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be the, he want to be the best. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not saying I'm retired. I'm out here. So I just know that, you know, like, I also know that it's space in hip-hop and R&B that hasn't been

touched. What I'm doing, going from 92, and being, becoming the number one producer of the 21st century in 2025, ain't been seen ever, ever, right? So if you start doing shit that ain't never been seen, you don't have no

reason. I don't have no reason to stop. I just got to, you know, pray to God that don't stop. You know what I mean? It's funny. I wonder if hip hop limits Jouper. And what I mean by that is when people start talking about, you know, who's the greatest producers of all time, they'll start naming a bunch of people who do a lot of hip-hop records, right? But you got to just say Jermaine is a musician. If you said Jermaine is just a musical producer, then I think the conversation is a little bit different. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, it's hard, man, Because I feel like I switch from people. I switch up on people so much.

When I'm in R&B mode, I'm not talking about no rap, right? I remember one time I came up here and I was so R&Bed out and I won't, I'm waving the flag for R&B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I think that confuses the podcast and the guys they usually talk to me about. They're like, wait a minute. I thought this shit was money and the thing. You was, you know what I mean? Magic City.

This is talking about you want to make division records. You know what I mean? I think that, that throws the whole thing off because I do switch. I mean, that's the only way I can do it. That's the only way I can make it is to get away from, you know, from one thing for a minute and go into that space and be 100% in that space. Is there a media bias even towards the South? Because I think about that with the producers and the artists.

Because there's some artists from the South who should be getting mentioned as top lyricists all the time. And some producers from the South who should be getting mentioned as top producers of the I just think that, and I want to get, I want to send, um, um, a shout out because I feel like his interview with Thug. Fantastic. Pushes. Brilliant.

Finally, somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip-hop media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's taken 30 years for somebody in the city of Atlanta to be the person that you have to sit down and talk to if you, that guy in hip-hop. And he just made himself that person. if you asked me. He killed it. He killed it. I'm glad you said that because I've said it on the air. Regional identity matters in media. 100% and everything. And Atlanta's been the hip-hop capital for so long but have never had that media press. Luke to Gray's reading on, but they've never had that person you've got to go see that. And I think that's the

problem. It's like every time somebody from Atlanta that's popped, they always had to come to New York. And no disrespect. But I've been saying it should have been somebody that did what he did with future ludicrous when t i got out of jail we don't had so many artists that had so many stories but they missed the opportunity like what just happened with thug because we don't have that person in the city and that just that goes to the culture like people should like i just saw the magazine out there with you on the front cover variety i never seen that before right in Atlanta i don't think young people read and see things like that to push them to say you know what I want to do what Charlemagne doing, man

I want to do what Envy doing he got a car show Like they don't see that enough To distract them All they see is J.D. throwing money And this shit throwing money I'm gonna be a rapper Nah, you ain't gotta be no rapper

You know what I mean? Bank getting ready to hit the bank Absolutely You know what I'm saying Based on what he just did That one interview As far as I'm concerned If he do what he got to do

And he keep it at that level And the way he talked to him It makes you're gonna have people that really want to sit down and let you interview the same way you did. And Big Fax has already been that platform to me

right? And then now to see Bank doing the perspective with Banks, yeah, I agree with you ever but it took 30 years, that's what I'm saying.

It took 30 years for somebody to say this is what we need I'm gonna do it like this, right? And I'm really happy to see that. I feel like that's going to turn that's going to change the city

because that's going people, somebody going to see that and they're going to create another one, right? And at that point that world will open up because when I came here I think the beginning of me talking about Magic City

I was like yo everybody in New York got a fucking podcast I mean everywhere I went everybody got a podcast Kluen them got one cross the street in a little bar Fat Joe everybody fat Joe no I was going to all of them I mean Carmelo in them out in Brooklyn It's a podcast everywhere and I was just like This ain't this bug ain't hit Atlanta yet Nah they got them in Atlanta because you got big facts you got bank

you got 85 South shows in Atlanta you got Port Mildonite podcast based out of Atlanta that's four y'all got about 20 out there you know what I mean you know what I mean it's just and they're moving

y'all got 20 out here that's moving I'm just saying these guys that you like the 85 South show I think that's probably the closest next but after that it ain't no real like ain't nobody you got to talk to poor minds is big

you should sit down poor Mines but you ain't got to talk to them that's all I'm saying I'm just talking about as far as like if you want to be of these people I feel like we don't have we ain't had nobody that you have to talk to like if they was like call me a car the wreck coming they like Joe Jamein who you want to have a in-depth conversation with and then your name your name going to come up and then who's the competitor

to Charlemagne in Atlanta too you know they're from Atlanta too you know they're from Houston but they're based in Atlanta right so I just feel like I feel like bank put himself in the category I agree to get you know the Gucci man's all of these people that we want his conversations. Gunners should be calling bank right now. Yeah, 100%. Gunners should be calling bank like, yo, I need to come sit down with you. And just to read, not saying reply, but, you know. I mean, but it ain't even

like, it's just. You've never heard his side. We've never heard him. It's just, like I said, he just made it where, like, an Oprah Winfrey, like, you want to watch it, you want to hear it, and he's not going to hold back on the questions, and he's creditable in that category to where you can't run

no bullshit on him. That's right. Because he going to let you know you running some bulls That's what I love. He wasn't afraid to push back. Nah, but I mean, but he don't have no, that's him. You know what I'm saying? He's the guy that told me when I said. He's like, J.D., we thought you want to be from New York.

That's who told me that. Right? And I'm like, nah, I wasn't trying to be from New York. I'm trying to just push my music. And I just feel like, like I said, I applaud him on that interview. He did it. Well, JD, I know you got to run. Well, Jadie, check out the Magic City Doc.

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