The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Relationships -David and Tamela Mann, Envy and Gia, Jess Hilarious and Rome + More

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Best of 2024 - Relationships - David and Tamela Mann, Envy and Gia, Jess Hilarious and Rome, Recorded 2024. Listen For More!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning USA! Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Yo! Jess Hilarious! Good morning! It's Tuesday! Yes and today's show is all about relationships and it's in studio relationships. No not me and Charlamagne but we're talking about some of our spouses, exes and boyfriends
Starting point is 00:00:21 and girlfriends. That's right. Well today my wife G, will be joining us. Of course, we have a book, Real Life, Real Love, and a new book coming out in the new year called Real Life, Real Family. But we're gonna be talking everything relationship and also, room stop through.
Starting point is 00:00:33 That's Jess's baby daddy, and we'll be talking to him about co-parenting and relationships. So that's today's show. So don't go anywhere, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Say up, wake up, wake your ass up.
Starting point is 00:00:45 This is your time to get it off your chest. Damn, say it's a test. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? It's Tony. Tony, what's up? Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Man, my girl been cheating on me for the last two years. Damn. They sound out about it. That is, I'm so sorry. Damn, how'd you find out, bro? bro man my dude from the joint call to let me go hey how you know he in jail he grew with the do that's horrible hey I'm sorry it is and I've been being stepped at a year for two years with the baby shame of mine hey what you gonna do Tony you leaving are you staying be honest with us? I'm leaving
Starting point is 00:01:34 Now I'm in the process of Friday, I'm good today three days in leaving Did you tell her yet? You tell her you found out? Yeah Did she admit to it? No, that's what I'm saying That dude told me the truth. She lied like usual. How you know he's telling the full truth? How you know he not just trying to break up your happy home? He ain't got no reason to. They never do. I think you should have a conversation with her before you get that new apartment. He did, she lied. She said she wasn't cheating. Exactly. And then he told me, yeah, I've been mess with her since 2022 Why wow you gotta be more to the story black women don't cheat man cut it up
Starting point is 00:02:14 All women cheat yeah black men All right Tony, but that's all I wanted man y'all have a good day Hello, who's this? Hey good morning. It's dawn. What's up dawn? Where you calling from? Can't you tell I'm like way out south? Riverdale, Georgia Riverdale, Georgia. Good morning dawn. Good morning. Get it off your chest. All right. Okay I'm just gonna have to start letting it roll because I've been so furious and so mad at the election Yo, and you been drinking this morning? No, I ain't been drinking Okay, sorry go ahead. What are you talking about? Like I'm talking slow? No, yes, could you talk this low?
Starting point is 00:02:58 I have to talk slow Nobody can understand what I'm saying if I'm like so, so from the south. Alright, go ahead. And then I'm like, uh, huh? I said, go ahead, mama. Get it off your chest. I'm sorry for interrupting you. Oh, no, you're cool. Hey, DJ, I appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Andy and Charlene, I enjoy y'all so much. Okay, so I'm like really sick and I'm like I don't understand why they had two People tried to take out this guy and they both failed We don't wish we don't wish political violence on any elected official man nobody at all, man. We don't do that. That's not We don't do that. That's not what we do. I agree. I agree. You had us even smoking. She's drunk and it's like when somebody tells you something
Starting point is 00:03:48 and you know you're drunk and you sober up real fast. You're right. You're right. No, I swear I'm not drunk. Where you calling from? Riverland, Georgia. I never heard of Riverland, Georgia. What does that say? Somewhere I got hypnotic. She did an incredible hawk this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm sorry. It's Riverdale. Oh, Riverdale. In Atlanta. Okay. In the Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 20 minutes from the Atlanta airport. Okay. You know, like Little Baby and all those songs. Yeah. I'm from Clayton. Okay. Okay. All right. Well nice to hear from you this morning Thank you so much. So everybody who listens us on 96 one to beat out there in Atlanta. That's right You're on your way work. Oh, I Don't mean Hey, I want I want a book Don't mean you don't strike me as a reading type
Starting point is 00:04:42 But I'll um, I'll send you a book I'll send you a copy of my new book get on us a die line watch small talk sucks I have a bunch of them in here right now. I appreciate it baby. Will you sign it? I will sign it. What's your name again? Dawn Weekend and dawn don't hang up. Okay. I'm signing it for you right now. I'm not hanging up because I need to know how I get that book. That's right. So that's what I'm saying. Hold on. Hold on. Eddie gonna put you on hold and get you a book. Hold on. Okay, Don.
Starting point is 00:05:16 He literally is signing a book right now for you, Don. I'm literally signing it right now. You gonna remember you asked for this book? Nope. Oh, yeah. All right, Don't peace drunk ass Dawn I'm signing it right now. All right, dawg. You have a good one. Okay, be safe. Hold on. Do not hang up
Starting point is 00:05:35 See look, thank God Y'all be I'm praying for y'all. Yeah, thank you. We appreciate you Jesus Christ. All right. Eddie make sure you get Daw's address man I got her book right here signed sealed just need to be delivered. All right get it off your chest 800-585-1051 The Breakfast Club good morning. The Breakfast Club This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're! Damn! Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Block. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's Tarrio Andrews. How you doing this morning? Tarrio, what's up? Get it off your chest, brother. All right, good morning, Sheldon. Name to God. Piers King. How you doing, brother? I'm good. How you doing? Welcome back, yes. Congratulations. Thank you, baby. In this night, I'm going to bring with me a son who's been in the hospital for like 18,
Starting point is 00:06:23 five past weeks. I had a lot of patients around my prostate. I hear y'all talk about colonoscopy and all that a lot. Yes, sir. Bring some awareness to these people about this prostate. Cause that's what might not work. I went ill, I went on one still, and some dreams I could, but it hurts to certain.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I can't hear what you're saying, but I heard that you said you was in the hospital for eight days cause you had an infection around your prostate. Right, and I just want to bring a witness to it. That's right, now listen, you know, we make jokes and stuff because, you know, whenever you think about something in your butt, it makes you giggle.
Starting point is 00:06:52 But the reality of the situation is, that's why we go get colonoscopies and all of that stuff, because of prostate cancer. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? But Charlamagne, that ain't got nothing to do with you, but that got something to do with your main vein. What you mean, your main vein?
Starting point is 00:07:04 They ask for the capillus. You know mean your main vein? They ask for the capillary. You know what your main vein is. Your penis? Yes. They put a capillary in there, they got a thing bigger than a number 10 pencil. I don't know about that. Now put me on, now you need to school me.
Starting point is 00:07:17 What you talking about? I thought the prostate, what that got to do? What you talking about? All right, the prostate pretty much, what run your bladder, that run your arm, your urine. So they put they put you to sleep wake up with a big old thing coming at you and Peeing out of capital
Starting point is 00:07:34 When I got a prostate exam The doctor put that glove on and put that finger in my butt to make sure my prostate wasn't enlarged No, I had infection already not knowing that I had it. Oh wasn't enlarged? No I had infection already not knowing that I had it. Oh got you got you got you okay okay okay all right okay. But how you doing now bro? Yes. Uh-huh. So how you doing now? I'm doing fine I'm up and moving there wasn't no um back you know they kept me in the hospital so long to get infection out. Yes sir. But other than that you know I'm up moving and walk I'm moving and walk regular. And this is why you gotta get prostate exams early and regular so you don't end up having an infection.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's right, you gotta go make sure you check, get yourself checked out, go to the doctor. Don't be too cool, don't be scared, go to the doctor. I ended up getting a prostate because I went for a vasectomy. And the vasectomy turned into a prostate exam. Now that confused me, you know what I mean? Because I thought that he liked what he saw.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And he just wanted to turn me around and get a little freaky freaky. You know what I mean? I mean thought that, you know, he liked what he saw. He just wanted to turn me around and get a little free and free. And you let him do it. I mean, I had to call a lot of people before I called a lot. I had to buy it and call off. You know, this regular man just came in for a second. He was confrontation, man. I came for a briefing test. He told me to turn around. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. What about breakfast club? It's Nando. Nando, what about get it off your chest? You know, I just wanted to shout out my merch on Instagram. If I could. It's underando. Nando, what up? Get it off your chest. Morning. Yo, man, I just wanted to shout out my merch on Instagram, if I could. It's Underdog Fitted. Yeah, I just wanted to shout it out. I make original Underdog Fitted hats and snapbacks by the Don Roddy. It's actually a merch from my book that I'm writing, and I was trying to get some help from Charlamagne if you could help me finish this book.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm trying to write and publish it and everything. Yeah, send me the manuscript, man, if you got a manuscript. Or like a one sheet of what the book is about. Well, we put your whole so you get all the email info, OK? All right, I got you. All right, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:09:13 If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And we got some special guests in the building. We have Tamela and David Mann. Welcome! Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. Good morning! Good morning! Now just in case you're all wondering why I'm here, I walked in the door and she said, sit down. Yes ma'am, I'm in your house. in the door and she said sit down. Yes ma'am I'm in your house. Because miss uh man is here to promote her new album live breathe fight but I mean y'all been doing things together forever like yeah y'all even know life without each other. No and I don't want to either. Look we got married at 21 so we've been married 36 years. That's a long time. No separations I like to say that. There you go. We worked through it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other? She did, because I was that kind of guy. No. Whatever. Whatever. No, we did not. No, we were just friends. OK.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It wasn't long after, though, that I knew, but I wouldn't let him know that I felt like that. I felt like he was the one but I was like I don't know cuz you know David had a little play in him. When did I realize? It was fairly some months that cuz we start singing together early so it was some months and David started protecting me even like what the other guys because I was the only girl in the group of singing and he would always like y'all don't harsh play. We had a singing group like so y'all know me Kirk Franklin and another guy Darrell
Starting point is 00:10:48 Blair. So Kirk Franklin and I've been friends for like 40 something years. He was 15 when I met him. We met him. So it's just but I just felt like if it works out I said I said I really like this dude but you know I have to just see wait and see. Watch his play ways. She actually busted me one time with a couple other girls that I was with. I was just looking. I didn't bust you, you busted yourself. They threw me a surprise birthday party. Both girls? No, we were all just fringing how you invite people to okay we're gonna do this and we have and let's we meeting at this house We mean that this house but he brought somebody with him so that we didn't know he was gonna bring somebody but it was just
Starting point is 00:11:31 People that we all knew. I was doing a little much. I'm for it That's why I wouldn't hook up with her because she was my friend and I knew once I started that that was it She wasn't going no, I know then once I said I do, I am, I will. All right. And here I am. So what do you tell young couples? Because you said something, you said, you've been together that long.
Starting point is 00:11:49 No separations. And never separation, right? Me and my wife, we've been married 23 years, been together 31, no separations, right? We've worked through everything, good, bad, ugly, whatever. So what do you tell young couples? We took divorce off the table. And the thing is, is to,
Starting point is 00:12:04 sometimes you gotta just separate, and for instance in the house to just gather your thoughts versus like throwing venom like at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have to back up okay let's take a minute and digest what's happening versus so you won't say piercing. I say piercing things I've been saying that since the beginning because you can say stuff when you're angry. And you can't take them words back. Because no matter if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but in the back of your head, you still thinking.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And you never try to resolve issues in the middle of a battle. I mean, just let it calm down a little bit. Just cool it off a little bit. When you're trying to resolve stuff in the middle of war, it gets a little hard. Because early on, like she say, just I'm quick with my mouth, quick with my tongue, so I would just say piercing stuff and I just started to see how man this is
Starting point is 00:12:52 devastating this woman, it's crushing her. So you know I just start building her up. What's the worst battle that you guys got into that you remember that it was just nasty and you was going at her neck, she was going at your neck. Okay so like we talk. Which one you gonna say? The knock at the door. Yes. The knock at the door. Who showed up at the crib? Imagine this. Imagine she's at work you're at the house and the constable knock on the door and say hey here you go here the papers. You've been served. You've been served. I say served with what? Oh you have a baby. I'm like what? I got a new, yeah. And so she comes home and is like, hey, how your day been? I'm good. This is how long y'all were
Starting point is 00:13:30 married at this time. We were married five years by this time. So before I got married, I, when I'm last, come by the last. Yeah. Can I have a little hit? Yeah, I had a little relapse, always get you. Yeah. And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how's your day? Oh my day was good. What'd you do today? Oh, I got us another baby Okay, I rehearsed it cuz on the way home, okay, I'm gonna tell her like this so, you know, you remember No, I can't say it that way so you know the time I had to come say dear you know I might have a child that you know that I had and he the thing is is he we had to he had to and say from a previous argument that's what he calls it so you know, two different ladies.
Starting point is 00:14:25 The best things that ever happened to my two daughters. The best thing ever happened. So it's like, I told him, I said, okay, now I accepted the one. Because I was there when she was born. Because we was best friends. She was at the hospital the day my child was born. I went to the hospital when she was born. The whole 21 hours, y'all, I'll sit there. But as he came and said this to me about the other young lady, which I knew about the other young lady and I knew that they had been intimate, I knew they had a thing going, but for how it was presented, it was rough for me to take. You know, I was like, I don't know, because the chick, God bless her, we're in a better place now, but then she was rough to deal with. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You had to put holy hands on her? I ain't putting the holy hands on her. You know, I just had, we had words, but not even to, you know what, we talked about it and David really pulled me, he would sit down and we talked. Before we got there, it got really bad because she was like, I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I shared with her, like look, it's me and you against everything else. That's the breakdown he gave you.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's me and you against everything else because I know that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know I put us in a bad situation. I tell my kids now, I say look, I put y'all in a bad situation because now you got to go over to your mom's house for Christmas. Okay, I'm going to have Thanksgiving. I say that's a hard place to put kids and I say I take full responsibility. I mean, my two daughters, best thing ever happened, you see them now. I went to get the blood test, you know how you go in to do the test, and I was going to go in and do a test and you know the first thing, that baby probably ain't
Starting point is 00:15:49 mine. That baby ain't mine. So by now she's five. And I walk in the place and I look down at this little face, we ain't got to take no blood. Her face is exactly like mine. But to me, she looked like him and she looked like her so it's like she was a great mixture of the two but when David told me the resolve for me DJ Invictus was that he did the the spark thing he said it's us and then it's them it's everybody else. He said so you never have to worry about me choosing you over them because it's us first and then them so that gave me a reassurance and I in our relationship I wouldn't have to be fighting to have my place because I knew that I had the papers but still you don't
Starting point is 00:16:30 want to be warring with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of your house. Right. Alright we have more with Tamela and David man when we come back so don't move it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ NV, Jess O'Larry, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Long and Rosa filling in for Jess and we're still kicking it with David and Tamela Mann. Now with all that was going on, how did you block out the noise, right? Because I'm sure you had friends and girlfriends leave him, he's this, that. No one really honestly did come to me like that because the thing is is we were
Starting point is 00:17:07 In a small community a lot of us we were yeah, we was church kids We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff so all of us do did know each other and knew that they had been What they did what is that you know doing what you do? Oh, you know being involved Yeah, so but if people they knew me as a person and they knew her as a person So it's like she had her reputation I had mine and it's like no one really never stepped to me and said anything crazy like that But they was willing to defend me Now mind you when we wrote this this book and I put the chapter the knock at the door at it
Starting point is 00:17:40 Girl, he was cheating on you all the time. It's like do the math read the book just go read the book you know girl I knew he was cheating it's like you just got to read and just follow up but that's how we live in and we breathe in and we fight through all the things you know 36 years later we're still building we're still living because we just believe that heaven is our destiny you know we're breathing every breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call. We have a purpose to do what we do, even to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean, this is like you saying everybody wanting us to do this together, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:18:16 They do and they expect to see us. It's like when you see one, it's like, okay, where's your husband? You out here by yourself? No, he's here. It's like he just stepped away. Trust me, I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've been doing this promo tour and the same. Thank you I was like we fight together. We doing this together. I really can't I mean I don't see y'all apart Y'all are really tag team back again every time
Starting point is 00:18:36 Complete we all are together and if and that's that's the I love the completion of it Because he completes me and my prayer is like Lord, please give us more time Give us more time together It's like I don't know if I can do life without without him Is that what got y'all to get in this shape because you said, you know You wanted to live like you wanted more time is that what me? I said, you know what let's get into the I had that whole diabetes scare and all this stuff and we just like man We got to do something. I can't leave her here by herself
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's just too much going on just seeing the craziness and I'm just like I can't leave her here by herself I got to get myself together and so that's what we're doing we just a work in progress you know. Y'all look good man. Thank you working from the inside out I think the importance of is like this record and doing it is like mentally working coming from a mental space coming from building building a body, doing differently, making better decisions for the body and that thing is like so we can be here longer together. And I was telling you off air, thank you so much for what you're doing in this mental health space.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Thank you brother. It means a lot to me as a black man and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good and I was like I share with, I was embarrassed to come out with my story of depression and making it and to hear stories like you yours and and you're talking and just putting it in the forefront it makes people like me say good I can share mine without being embarrassed because I was embarrassed really I mean like why embarrassment though because people expect me every time to come out and perform you gotta be be funny. You gotta be funny. You gotta be, you Mr. Brown, you make the world laugh.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Like she say, I grew up, I'm a fan of you. Okay, so people expect that and so they don't know in the background you dying. Literally dying and drowning. And so when people like you come out and make it known, hey, it's cool. I have a therapist and I have Jesus. That's right. And so, you know, I just want to… But even all of y'all, it's just all of y'all lives what y'all give, I think it's important
Starting point is 00:20:30 that all of us bring what we bring to the table. I feel like this pie is big enough for all of us to have a piece, to share it. We can help somebody. I mean, one of our messages is how to get to somebody. I mean, my God, I mean, it's like with the platforms that we have, we should be able to help encourage somebody from any walk of life. I just feel like we're sent here, not just for us, we're sent here to help all walks of life. So what's the message in this album? This album is to live, breathe and fight, even though you're facing the things you're
Starting point is 00:20:59 facing. The songs talking about carry on, even though that you've dealt with mental health different different things in your family or whatever your issues may be we have to carry on We deserve to win after you've done and been through the mess and the upbringing that we've came out of We deserve to win you deserve to have some nice things you deserve to have a smile on your face to be in a good relationship You're gonna find somebody I've been watching. I've been talking to the screen. Leave her alone. She don't pray though. She don't pray about it. She don't pray. Leave her alone. He don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:28 He don't know. He don't know. He don't know. He don't know. He don't know. He don't know my body. She don't know my body. She was kind of like you early on.
Starting point is 00:21:36 She was a player player from the Amalaya. Player player. That is not true. Her cup run up over. That is not true. But all the men have caught on to what she's been doing. That is not true. That's right.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Check it up. I've seen she needs to do it every day. I see it. Trust me, I'm with you. If you've been watching, you know. I did not start out player-player. I was deeply involved. Wait a minute. See, you messed up.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You said, I didn't start out player-player. I didn't. I mean, once you get it, I wasn't a player. I'm single. I'm just meeting people. And now? She kicks the same game to the same guys. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And they figure it out. To the fact that two gentlemen said, you need to fix yourself. You need to get therapy to come back around. Two of them told us you need to heal. First of all. Two men told us you need to heal, Tamela. One of them only lasted to the Sunday after homecoming.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Sup y'all, this is Questlove. And I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids
Starting point is 00:22:31 starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. -♪ Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months
Starting point is 00:23:14 before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me Did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat Nine months before Rosa He he was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast because you need to know because he don't get me started a lot of it be deflecting and cap and the language she's using she'd be calling these guys things like eaters y'all know about that my best eater I don't like the body! Yes!
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yes! I didn't say that! I don't say that! Got him labeled in the phone, Eater! Eater too! Best eater! That is not true. I would never see that! Let's pray. I'm down to pray after this. But when you're looking at
Starting point is 00:24:20 being found, I think we have to make a list of what we're wanting in a relationship. And then you become the list. That's all. Just know what you want. And it's OK to have standards. And you said that you realize later in life about your value. Yes, but it takes time to get to a certain point where you feel like, OK,
Starting point is 00:24:41 now I'm ready to enter back into things. Yes, I just feel like some men don't understand when you're taking that time. That doesn't mean that you're lonely or without. It's just, you know, you need that time. I stepped away from something. See, that's the healing process when y'all say for taking her time for that's the healing process right there. So she is in the process of being healed. So y'all just have to, it's her way No, yeah, I know and I know these guys are, y'all stop teasing her. Thank you. Why you gonna come here and try to mom or something?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Because I'm this old. I'm just old. I'm the oldest in here. I'm 58. I did take time before I started dating. I took a lot of time because it was a long relationship that I was in. And then I got back outside and now here come these two. I see God working on it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 God got his hands on it. You know, hand on me is one of my titles. That's right. Hand on me. God needs to have some hands around his throat. What? His jacket. The way he got his foot on my neck. He need to choke on it. What? But I have a song on this called Power, it's about the power of God. You should listen to it, Shalmone. That's a good one. The power is really just talking about how the Lord the Lord is just maneuvers and how his power just happens over things and just how he just holds us. I mean it's just amazing how God just really protects us when we don't know that we
Starting point is 00:26:13 being protected we think we are doing it ourselves but the Lord is really shielding us so it's just it's just really a blessing to be able to bring. My hope is that it's good music and people can be healed and have inspiration from it. Alright we have more with David and Tamela man when we come back let's get into a joint off her album Deserve to Win it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Morning everybody we are the Breakfast Club we're still kicking in with David and Tamela man. Charlamagne? I was gonna ask about Lord I trust you right because you know to what you're speaking about now you say when the sun's not shining down on me when the chaos is overwhelming my peace,
Starting point is 00:26:45 when my life is spinning out of control, when I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord, I trust you. How hard is it to put your trust in God when things aren't going well? When you don't see no light at the end of the time? It could be hard to me, that's when I have a real good cry.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I get in my car a lot, because my car to me, it's like I can get away from everything and I don't have to hear anything. It's like that but in my closet. It's like a prayer closet in my car. me it's like I can get away from everything and I don't have to hear anything it's like that but in my closet it's like a prayer closet and in my car because God it's like I don't understand what's happening right now this last year and a half of things and things coming to me like I can't believe that I'm in this situation I can't believe that I'm having a fight just to prove who I am and I thought I was doing that but it's like okay Lord I trust you I trust that you
Starting point is 00:27:24 gonna handle it and then that's when the song came for me working for me that the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval you may not see me at work but I'm working in your behalf that he's working for me bless you thank you so it's just I just take comfort in knowing that he is my guide and he is my help he's my present help in the time of storm that even when I don't see and nobody else is around He's there and I can go to him and I ain't got to worry about him my business being in the street That's why testimony is so important though, right?
Starting point is 00:27:51 I like to hear other people's stories and what they've been through and what they're overcoming of it That's right overcoming. How's your last album over? Overcoming sure was over coming and that's the thing is and the Lord has allowed me to finish the work, even to the extent of even with my body. I reached the goal of like even the weight loss that I was trying to do. So, but to even spiritually become a writer, like I wrote on, it's like I gave direction on every song on this album.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So it's like things that I'm proving to myself and showing like, Lord, you know, I wrote the plan down and I'm following through with the plan. And working for me, that was your 11th number one, right? Yes. So you broke the record of all time number one? Yes, in gospel music.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Wow, congratulations. Congratulations. With her mentor, her and Kurt. We're tied, yeah, we're tied for number one. We're tied a bit, but I mean, you don't see this stuff coming. You hope people gonna like the music and enjoy it, but it's like, when it happened,
Starting point is 00:28:44 I don't even look at the charts y'all, they tell me. She never know. Working for me, you lean into the country music. Yes. So I know Kirk Franklin is known for dibbling and dabbling different beats and sounds and stuff like that. Have you thought about like what, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:58 it would be like for you to do other styles or bring in other styles like the R&B or like anything secular, but making it gospel. Kind of how he does it. Well, I kind of have some balance this coast to the R&B or like anything secular but making it gospel kind of how he does it. Well, I kind of have some balance that's close to maybe R&B. I've had a little. R&B. And then we did do a love project, Us Against the World, that I did. Like I have a song that's called Feel. I sing a song that's called Feel Like. It's really a straight R&B song.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We didn't push it, but I think it would have really did well. song is called Feel Like is really a very fearful and it wasn't like I was fighting them but I was dragging my feet. It's like I feel like if I can hear whatever I can sing whatever you know like when you say the country music it's like I'm country y'all hear it in my just how I talk but I know about the chickens and the hogs you know I was raised actually in the country so it's like those things to me was it's like I've been stretched and a lot of times we only listen to people's singles that they have out, but we really don't go listen to the body of work. And even with the Love Sock project we did, she was afraid of what people were going to think.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm in the studio, I got my chest hairs out, I got my sun shade, I'm doing my best R&B. Oh, you was writing. What? I mean let the lights down. Pull the lights down. I had my shades on. I was doing my, ooh yeah. And she was like just happy. I said that is not how you sing. But then I realized she was afraid of what the church crowd was gonna, you know, think of her. But once I thought about it, it's like I'm singing to the love of my life. I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all
Starting point is 00:30:45 per se. I mean, thank God for everybody. But I was singing to him and the song is you make me feel like I'm on top of the world. And when it's the truth, he does. So it's like when you hear this song, it's like it just brings it all to life of like me talking straight to him or him, you know, feeling like when he touched me it just it's just he still gives me goosebumps so it's like don't do that right now. What was wrong with that though? Y'all married. Why can't you marry people who have that? It's true but it's just a society that we live in. It's like our people we can be judgmental we could be the most loving but we also can be the most judgmental when it comes to Christian people. I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna lie. I have no idea. I'm not judging one of the first things they teach you, but it's not judgmental to people.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And I love being on this side, but I don't know why we're like that. I have no idea. But it just, it does have to be a separation though, y'all. It's just, I wouldn't come and look for you to do certain things just like you probably wouldn't expect for you to do certain things just like you probably wouldn't expect for me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental. It's just like what you've represented. Like with your parents, it's like sometimes even some kids, like our kids like to talk about sex. They don't want us to talk about sex. But y'all, we have sex. So it's like, but it's just like people don't want to hear certain things from certain people. So it's not but it's just like we know we make love people we do and people don't want to hear certain things from certain people So it's not I don't think all of it is I would say judging it's just I'm saying what would Jesus do
Starting point is 00:32:12 Could you see him just pull back on on one? Yes Burning brush was to bring a message. Did you say that? Of to save someone from his sacrifice. I'm gonna push you up to the roof. You say that again. His father created marijuana. The Burning Bush was not for him smoking. No, the bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yes, so the magic question, Miss Mann. It wasn't sacrificing the bush that I'm talking about. No, they not. No, they cooking greens. God creates everything for a purpose. God created marijuana. It did, but it wasn't for us to do to be like joy It's healing it's for healing I don't think Jesus got high I don't I'm gonna push you
Starting point is 00:32:56 Why you think all the people thought he was walking on water? He turned the water in the wine so that's Turned the fish boat the fish and the bread. He multiplied it for everybody. That's the munchies. Man, I don't know man. That is the munchies. I see why you always on him.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Come on, come on Lauren, get this. I'm with you. This is your time. You know what I'm doing? I'm allowing him to jump off the cliff on his own. We're just going to watch him go down. Jesus know my heart. the cliff on his own. We're just gonna watch him go down. Jesus know my heart. He working on me still. He working. Don't try to bring God on in here double time now. Now you see it double.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You were just smoking with God. Now you in here with God. Yeah, all right. I told you he gonna throw like that. He's a man right now. Ain't I? Won't he do it? Won't he do it?
Starting point is 00:33:40 He's working for us tonight. Yes, it's tonight. We appreciate you. You know, we have to pray before we leave. Charlamagne definitely needs it. We all need it. Father God, we thank you for us tonight. Yes, it's tonight. We appreciate you. You know, we have to pray before we leave. Charlemagne definitely needs it. We all need it. Father God, we thank you for this day. We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people.
Starting point is 00:33:52 We ask you just bless us, Lord God, bring inspiration, understanding to all of us, God, in every area that we need and touch those that are having problems for us in their minds, Lord God, to just bring and lift every weight off of us, oh God. We just give you glory for this opportunity thank you for the Breakfast Club thank you for what they bring for our people and we give you glory for everything that you're doing Jesus name Amen. Amen. Always a pleasure man. Thank you so much. Thank y'all. Pick up the album out right now live breathe fight and remember keep living keep breathing keep fighting fighting God did not smoke the burning That's not it it was for sacrifice come on get out of there
Starting point is 00:34:36 The breakfast club EJ envy Angela Yi shalom mean the guy we are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Never met her before. She's an actress, she's an author, she's a mom. Ladies and gentlemen, Gia. She's a wife. And my wife, yes, Gia. Hello. Welcome. Gia what, that's just one name?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Thank you. She's like Madonna, Beyonce, just one name? Like Madonna, Beyonce, Gia. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. How nervous are you, sir, seriously? I know, he's been acting real weird all morning. I'm fine. Does that make you nervous, boo? No. You guys have a book out, Real Life, Real Love, How nervous are you sir seriously?
Starting point is 00:35:12 You guys have a book out real life real love life lessons on joy pain and the magic that holds us together And I've been dying to ask you this question Gia in person. Oh boy How do you feel about Charlamagne and be flirting with each other every day? It kind of turns me on. What? You didn't expect that answer. No, I'm nervous. What the hell? I had that effect on people. Okay. Explain.
Starting point is 00:35:38 No, I mean, I think it's a little strange. But I'm amused by it. It's just brotherly love, that's all. Yeah, I'm amused by it. Does anything go brotherly love. That's all. Does anything go too far ever? No it's all in good fun and entertainment. That's all it is. I don't mind it. So you didn't mind when he gave me the ass? First of all, contact please. Everybody that watch the show every day, contact please. Okay. Wait can you guys sound bite that? When he gave me a mold of his ass. That's right and it wasn't my ass it was a mold of a ass. Okay, can you guys sound bite that? It wasn't my ass it was a mold of a ass yes, I thought it was a mold of your actual no no my
Starting point is 00:36:17 And then what about when they touch each other and stuff that's never happened we don't touch you don't See them. That hasn't happened. No you want to tell me something I need to know now They like rub up brush against each other if they're walking out the door That's not right in the rub up against each other. We don't ever do it. They go on the revolving door together that happened one time Explain that now I need a stupid. I don't even know how to It was really stupid So stupid to be very intentional. No, it wasn't. I don't even know how it happened. One is in, and then one makes his way in. We were in the revolving door together, walking around, it was so stupid. All we did was giggle because it was so stupid. We just had to giggle our way through it. You just added insults, Adrienne, sitting there in the one slot, giggling together.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So stupid. Oh, man. All right, well, whatever you guys. Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I don't lie. Real life, real love. What is that magic that holds y'all together, you think? How would you describe it?
Starting point is 00:36:56 You know, it's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic
Starting point is 00:37:04 that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that's like a magic that Oh man Anyway back to the matter at hand. I don't lie real life real love What is that magic that holds y'all together you think how do you know? Whenever I find that people come to our house or are around us I think they're kind of surprised at how much fun we have together. I find him to be very charming and charismatic And one of the things that I love most about him is his boyish nature. So we really have a lot of fun together, and we always have since we first met.
Starting point is 00:37:32 The first week we spent together, I thought to myself, he's a lot of fun. Like he's like a friend, you know? And that's part of the magic. You knew that this was the person you were gonna spend the rest of your life with? After about two weeks of knowing him, yes. But he knew before you even spent a day together. I did.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Explain. Before we even spent a day together. Well, when I first seen you, I mean, I wrote in the book that I thought you were beautiful and amazing and the first time I saw you were actually running track. And for people that don't know, you know, track she used to... Explain track. That was a good one. I like that. for people that don't know you know track she's playing track you know you
Starting point is 00:38:08 had you know big double D's and I would stop basically stalk outside and just watch her run track and watch her breast bobbing like that word don't say stalk you wasn't stalking stalking and I would see him, I would see him sitting with his friends in this bright blue Con Edison van because that's what his parents bought him to transfer his DJ equipment from Sweet 16 to Sweet 16. That's what he was DJing at the time. I just had a Con Edison van. And I would see it parked behind the fence.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, why is this van there every day at track practice? It's a power out of van. Yo, that's a power out of van. fence I'm thinking myself why is this van there every day actually babe do you remember one day like he emerged from the van and approached me and kicked it and I was like, oh So you're that weirdo. That's but I'm in there. I'm talking both kids. Yeah She was 15. I was 16. We went to the same high school So envy you say that you knew that she was gonna be your wife like right away
Starting point is 00:39:17 You think it was before y'all even spoke no, you were just talking her We actually know when we actually spoken and you spoke and I found out how beautiful she was inside and outside and how smart she was and caring and she was just that, she was the one. She was the most beautiful thing I ever seen in my life and the most precious thing. So I was like, this is going to be my wife. I want people to get the book, but I do want to explain how do you keep reinventing the relationship when you start that young now interviews 50-something? You know, I mean you're much much younger, but how do you keep how do you reinvent? How do you keep reinventing?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I think that that's part of the magic. We don't have to try. Hmm. We don't Intentionally, we do a lot of things intentionally and deliberately, but we don't intentionally Reimagine the relationship and act on that. The only thing that I would say that we're good about is keeping it sexy and making sure that that part of our relationship doesn't get too monotonous and doesn't get stale. So we have a lot of fun in that space, but we don't have to think like, God, how am I going to stop being bored of you?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Or how am I going to get to a point where you don't annoy me anymore? He legitimately does not annoy me. I look forward to his phone calls every day. And we probably speak on the phone about maybe eight or nine, ten times a day, because he's away a lot. You know, so he calls me on his way to the practice club. He calls me on his way home from the practice club. He calls me if something happens.
Starting point is 00:40:42 He calls me incessantly. It's and I'm never like, oh, you again. I'm like, oh, him again. way home from the practice club. He calls me if something happens. He calls me incessantly. I'm never like, oh, you again. I'm like, oh, him again. You know, it's just that feeling that I've always had that no matter what ups or downs we were going through, that never left me. Now he told us a story about the cowboy outfit that he wears. He told you about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Wait, wait, wait. The cowboy outfit in college? With the assless chaps? There's no assless chaps. They were! Yeah, you told us about that. Hold on, wait, Rashawn, in college? With the assless chaps, the... There's no assless chaps. They were! Yeah, you told us about that. Hold on, wait, Rashawn, did you actually tell him about that?
Starting point is 00:41:10 He did. Like on air or in private? I forgot I told y'all about that. He did. Because if it was in private, this is a whole double cross. Yeah, you tell this, he dressed up as a cowboy and he had the... Why you looking at me like that? Because I remember that day.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Okay. Because I remember that day, because after he told the story, he goes... He did, he did. And I was like, what? He did. I remember that day. Okay. I remember that digger that he told us story he goes Well, we were in college yeah, we went through a stage where we were doing like a lot of role-playing role-playing Yeah, and one night I dared him to be a cowboy. So we went and got Had like the big brown hat and then he had like the little holsters and everything and babe do you remember I took pictures? Where are those? Are they in the book?
Starting point is 00:41:50 About maybe three years after he made me physically burn them on the grill. Wow. He put them on the grill and told me I had to light it. Yeah, they don't exist anymore. Don't you wish you still had that? No! But y'all talk about roleplay in the book. You say he likes to put on the rock nation paper playing hat
Starting point is 00:42:05 And he goes what's my name? I didn't say Jigga. I didn't contribute to that chapter. Okay So he wasn't lying they were ashless chaps, yeah, yeah, he had a whole it was a whole thing I just pulled the UI you gear. He did not tell us that Get my book and you will learn a slew of tactics, tricks and techniques on how to get what you want out of life. Okay. It was a holster by the way, they were holsters. Yeah, it was a holster.
Starting point is 00:42:33 What were some other dress up things you guys did? Alright! Um, it was more so me dressing up and he was just like the recipient of that. That was one little, and that's why it was a dare, because it was kind of supposed to be a joke, but he never really dressed up. One time I was a nurse and he was a doctor little and that's why it was a dare because it was kind of supposed to be a joke But he never really dressed up He was a doctor. That was one. Did you really burn the pictures? I really did really in front of him Wow You didn't have kind of kept those Left in our relationship I had that I will ruin his entire reputation
Starting point is 00:43:07 And my question over to a new audience? All right, we got more with my wife, Gia Casey. When we come back, we're talking our new book that's out right now, Real Life, Real Love. So don't go anywhere, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the Guy, We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:25 We got a special guest still in the building, my wife, Gia Casey. We're talking about our new book, Real Life, Real Love, Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic that holds us together. You could pick it up today or you can get it on Audible or Kindle or wherever you get your books. Yee. How was it for both of you writing this book together? Some of it was fun.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It was nice to be creative and get your thoughts down on paper. It was work. But a lot of it was difficult. I'm a very open person. Rashaun, I think, had a difficult time because he had to relive a lot of the negative things that transpired in our relationship. And he can tend to be surface in some respects,
Starting point is 00:44:07 where you ask him a question, he gives you an answer. I'm a lot more of an in-depth person, you know, I think critically about things. And when we would go over these chapters that he's assigned to write, I would ask him questions like, okay, you can't just answer it with a yes or a no or a simple blanket like one question would mean ten more questions to really get to the meat and you know I had to keep reiterating we're writing this book so that people have something tangible a reference point for them to make changes in their lives if necessary or to recognize that the person that you're with needs to make changes in their
Starting point is 00:44:40 lives and it was a journey it was a journey but I think it was difficult it was difficult I had to relive a lot of the F boy ish I put you through and you don't you forget about a lot of it because you don't have to relive it but then when you start no you forget about the point door because it's like we don't realize how much we do hurt our women. Is that true though? Yeah I think so. I don't think we realize how deep that goes. That sounds like an okie-dokie to me. No I don't think we until you actually sit down and have those you know uncomfortable conversations you don't realize how much you. If your wife cheated on you and told you that she would have no idea how much that it stood to hurt you. Would that
Starting point is 00:45:26 make sense to you? Probably not but I mean men don't make sense. You believe that? You believe that you're born inherently with like a deficit? Not a deficit but I just don't think... A common sense. I don't think we're thinking about it you know what I mean? Like we like that's the sad part. It's selfish. And that's what keeps you from doing it in the future you know what I mean? Because you do not want to hurt the woman that you love. And it's so crazy because I saw that with my pops. Like I saw the pain that caused my mom with his infidelity.
Starting point is 00:45:52 So in my mind, I was like, damn, I'm about to make the same mistake. So I think it is difficult when you got to relive it because you don't want to talk about it because you don't want to trigger you. You know, some people feel- I don't get triggered though. Damn. What? What? That scared me just now. That was about to cause a curie. No, once I got to a point, and it was a process, once I got to a point where I accepted that it was my job to move on because I decided to
Starting point is 00:46:25 forgive him. And because because he had done all of the work, and then some to regain my trust to earn grace from me, I got to a point where I no longer wanted to punish. And I didn't have that inherent need to see him suffer. Because when you hurt, and you say it all the time, hurt people, hurt people. When you're hurt, you want not just people, you want the person that hurt you to hurt. And anytime that I felt any type of way, I made sure that he felt some type of way. So once I learned how to forgive, and that was a process because I wasn't necessarily a forgiving person, before everything was very black and white to me, not very much
Starting point is 00:47:07 gray. But once I learned and I understood that that's what was expected from me of God, I had to commit to that and do my best to live up to what forgiveness meant. And that's what set me free. Because when you forgive, you don't forgive to ease the burden from the other person you forgive to ease the burden from you. That's real. What was the work you guys did together like you had to work on forgiveness and when you said okay I'm gonna you know have to move on from this but what was the work that he did that let you know okay he's serious and you
Starting point is 00:47:44 know I can finally just say I'm not getting triggered anymore, I'm gonna let this go. One of the first things was I realized that he understood the impact of what had happened, what he did. He understood it. He didn't just accept it and was accountable for it, but he actually understood. He would do things that a lot of men wouldn't do. He would sit there through those eight hour conversations locked in a room. He answered every question that I had and I had a lot of questions and he answered them all truthfully. And you know when you ask somebody a question and you can
Starting point is 00:48:23 tell by their answer, because I mean, the answers weren't pretty. They weren't things that I would have wanted to hear. He went through all of the the sufferation, as I call it, and he did it until because a lot of guys when they mess up. And I mean, a lot of them have told me I have friends and that have gone through it. It's like, listen, I did it. I apologize. I said I was never going to do it again. I mean that ish. Right. But
Starting point is 00:48:49 it's like every day I'm being punished. I'm being punished. I'm being reminded. It's like, let it go. I apologize. Like, what more do you want from me? Blood? He never took that approach with me. It was the until, until you are good, until you are healed. If I have to be a punching bag, I will be are healed if I have to be a punching bag I will be that if I have to be a doormat I will be that I will do anything that it makes to survive this because I cannot be without you and he proved it every single day it was as though and he was like this before but it was even more so during this time it was as though he communicated to me that the only thing that he wanted was to make me happy. And that's pretty much how he lives his life. He lives
Starting point is 00:49:30 his life every day, waking up thinking like, damn, how can I make his life easier today? How can I make you happier today? But to answer your question, it was the until it was the indefinite. And it was the willingness to do any and everything to earn what he lost back. And was there ever a question in your mind? I know there was a point when you thought, no matter what I do, she's never going to take me back. Was there ever a time when you were like, I'm going to come over and hug you.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm just letting you know, you better hold them tears. I'm going to hug the s*** out of you from the back if you cry in front of your wife. And then flex your pelvis. But yes, there's a question. Catch that little feel. At that point, I just, you know, I didn't be honest at least get my friend back, you know, um, and at that point I, you know, I didn't know what gear was going to do. I thought it was a rap, but I was like, I still wanted my friend. I still wanted somebody I can talk to, you know, I still wanted a relationship with her
Starting point is 00:50:22 that we can bounce. Like this, she's all I knew since I was 16, so I still wanted my friend back. And she's Jamaican, that could have been forever beef. That could have been forever beef. But you know, it's interesting that you didn't kick him out of the house, you were still polite to him, you still wanted to maintain a co-parenting friendship. I feel like that hurts more when you're like,
Starting point is 00:50:41 we're not having sex, and I might end up with somebody else one day, but you know, we're cool. That hurts more when you're like, we're not having sex. And I might end up with somebody else one day. But you know, we're cool. That hurts more. So y'all, this is Questlove. And I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the story pirates and John Glickman called historical records. It's a family friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids
Starting point is 00:51:05 starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip but a cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama
Starting point is 00:51:44 who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, he was Claudette Colvin.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Think sometimes and just completely like being nasty to somebody and cutting them off. Yes. Well, when I found out divorce was imminent, it was never a question. I was raised by a
Starting point is 00:52:31 very strong mother who taught me that if a man ever disrespects you to that degree, then you walk. So it didn't matter how much I loved Rashaun and how much I would have missed him And it didn't matter if I cried every night It did not matter one iota how I felt the only thing That was important to me was that I operated with my head and not my heart And that I did what I always said that I was going to do so when I found out when it was confirmed for me, and you can read the book and See the entire maybe want you to go get the entire story So when I found out when it was confirmed for me and you can read the book and see the entire story.
Starting point is 00:53:06 We want you to go get the entire story. But when he confirmed it, we were in a parking lot. And when I drove away from that parking lot, it was a few days before Christmas and his mother was at the house helping me decorate because we were hosting that year. But I walked into the house and I told her I said Christmas is canceled. And she said, Oh, how do you say Christmas is canceled? And I said well, I just found out that Rashaun cheated on me and we're getting a divorce so there's not gonna be any Christmas this year at least I'm not hosting. Yo it's wild that people
Starting point is 00:53:37 actually cancel Christmas I thought that was a figure of speech. No. No. If this shit happens we canceling Christmas. You cancel Christmas? Yeah. Well in the sense of us hosting I wasn't gonna cancel it for our No, no Well in the sense of us hosting I was gonna cancel it for our children but you know, we didn't have to decorate for 30 people to come over and My lovely mother-in-law. Hi mama She defended her beautiful son with everything that she could because bitches lying pretty much her beautiful son with everything that she could because... Them bitches lying. Pretty much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And when she said something to that effect, I said, but for the fact that he just told me that it was true. And he came home maybe 20 or 30 minutes later and it was a whole thing, right? But I was adamant that we were getting a divorce. I contacted an attorney, paid an attorney. It was decided. But thankfully, there were a whole host of things that happened that convinced me that God had other plans.
Starting point is 00:54:41 All right, well, don't move. We got more with Gia Casey. We're talking our new book, Real Life, Real Love. Let's get into our Mary J. Blige joint. Here's Real Love, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody, it's DJ NB Angelie, Charlamagne the Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest still in the building, my wife Gia Casey.
Starting point is 00:54:58 We're talking about our new book, Real Life, Real Love, Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic that holds us together. You could pick it up today or you can get it on audible and Kindle or wherever you get your books Ye and be let me ask you because you know for women we always are like and like you said Tyrese was having a conversation How a man can't cheat on you, but still love you yeah But why like you know that's something that for women we always want to know. And I'm sure you had so many conversations. I still don't like his answer. I don't necessarily agree with what Tyree said.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I really feel that until you know the definition of what love really means. I think a lot of times people just say, I love you and always is, oh, I love you. But until you understand the definition of what love means, then you realize I don't if I love somebody like I say, you don't want to hurt them. You don't want to cheat on them. You don't want to cheat on them you don't want to disrespect them you don't want to have them looking crazy because you love that person and I don't think I knew the definition of love when I figured that definition of what love is and what gear meant to me you know you realize I don't want to
Starting point is 00:55:57 hurt her I don't want to see her cry I don't want to see her feel the way I don't want to disrespect her I don't want to be controlling I don't be any of those things and when you realize what that definition is you Outlook of life changes. I agree with him You know add on because I've explored this in therapy when you say you can cheat And still love a person you might but you don't really love yourself Yeah, I think a lot of times I'm not a lot of time all the time men cheat for ego Oh, yeah, like that's it. It's wounded ego. It's something that we're lacking and have nothing to do with our wives Nothing to do with our girlfriends. It's something that we feel like we're lacking for whatever reason and that's what we go and do
Starting point is 00:56:31 It's literally just to feed our ego Nothing less. You think women cheat for the same reason as men or you think it's different like when women cheat You think they cheat for different reasons? I think women also cheat for ego. Who doesn't like to have the attention of the opposite sex? You know, especially when you are at a deficit and you do have holes and you need those holes filled. And most people have slight holes. You know, not that you're out there thirsty for the attention of the opposite sex, but even if it's of the same sex when someone pays you a compliment like it's nice to be wanted It's essentially what I'm saying. So for women Yeah, I mean I think that if you're with someone and you cheat
Starting point is 00:57:14 I think a big part of it is ego But then you know you'll have people that say that they cheat because the person at home is in doing what they're supposed to do You know and we have a son, Logan, he's 18. So he's starting to date seriously and whatnot now. And I had a conversation with him the other day. And I said, listen, if you commit to a girl and you make her your girlfriend, one thing I do not want you to do is cheat. Do not come to me and tell me that you guys broke up because you cheated on her, because
Starting point is 00:57:42 I've raised you better than that. If you decide that you want something else because you cheated on her because I've raised you better than that if you decide that you Want something else or she's not satisfying whatever needs you have? Break up with her and move on to the next and if within a week you feel the same way about that girl Break up with her and move on to the next do not cheat because you're sacrificing your own integrity when you do that And that's pretty much a sign of really not loving yourself. When you love yourself, you want to be self-actualized. You want to be your best self. You want to reach your highest potential. You want to be a kind of good person. And you owe that
Starting point is 00:58:15 to yourself. You don't necessarily owe it to the other person. You owe it to yourself to do those things. And that's what I'm trying to instill in him as my oldest male child. You know? One of the biggest things I think that came out of this was all the work that he did do on himself. And he was suicidal at a point. We know that, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I don't think that was all because of what was going on with you. I think it was, like I said, it was other things that he was dealing with inside of him that probably got him to that point. Yes, we would have to ask him because we've never had a conversation of it being about anything besides the threat of losing our relationship. I would say this, I would say, you know, I used to look at people who committed suicide as soft and suck it.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Like that's what society made you think until I got into that predicament where I felt like my life, well everybody's life around me would be better if I wasn't here and I couldn't shake it. And majority of it was losing my wife, losing my family, losing the thing that I knew and that I love. And I really feel like I didn't wanna be there. And I guess it was everything else that we said,
Starting point is 00:59:21 like the insecurities that made me do it, the insecurities around me. And I just didn't know who I was As a person whoo, that's powerful That's the big one. I will say during all of that in all those conversations and all those late-night talks and with Praying you feel like you realize who you are as a person and once you figure that out You figure out who you want to be who you want to who you wanna live like, and you don't care about anything else. At one time I used to care what people thought,
Starting point is 00:59:48 now I don't care. As long as my wife and my family's happy, everything else is just white noise behind it. Just think about how much stronger you guys are as individuals, and your marriage is so much stronger after everything you've been through. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Let me say something powerful too,
Starting point is 01:00:02 because this business will have you living a lie because we're characters Yeah, right So we create these characters that kind of protect the Rashaan and protect the Linard and we're go we go home and we one way But then we out in the street being another way, but you can't do both eventually that negative is gonna catch up Yeah, so that's that's why I think he was going through like not only just the threat of losing you but just like who am I? Was that hard for you? Um having this dual personality almost absolutely think he was going through, like not only just the threat of losing you, but just like, who am I? Was that hard for you? Having this dual personality almost?
Starting point is 01:00:29 Absolutely. Because I mean, like nothing's better now than to not care what people think. You know, I would have to think. It's freedom. It's freedom. I would have to think about what I was saying on the radio and how it would affect me, how people would look at me. I would have to think about this or think about that instead of just being free and
Starting point is 01:00:42 say, hey, it is what it is. Take it how you like it. If you like me, you like me. If you love you love me you love me if you hate me you hate me And once I got to that place life became a whole lot better See a lot of gems in this fuck you guys. I was thoroughly entertaining like I said you look stressed Nervous all morning before you got here Conversation the book is out today. Go get it man.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Make sure you pick it up. Real life, real love. Get it today. Life lessons on joy, pain and the magic that holds us together. That's right. Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, wherever you buy books, your local book stores, please pick it up today and when you do read it or you read it, please what we want you to do is we want you to tell us what you think about the book.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Whether it's a 30 second video tag here and now we want to repost it whether you love it whether you hate it we're gonna repost all of them because we love to get you guys' feedback. And I think that y'all gonna help a lot of couples and it's clear that y'all too are meant to be with each other you know what I'm saying. One of my favorite chapters is called the New Deal and it's pretty much about reparations that the offender has to make after offending their partner and it's those things that will help to signal to your
Starting point is 01:01:51 partner that you just may be worthy of forgiveness and being extended grace. So what are those reparations? The first thing people will say is that oh that's why he does the 12th day of the Christmas. You know that's right a lot of people do say that. But you know what's funny and that's right. A lot of people do say that. Nothing, you know. I've done that before. We've done that before. But you know what's funny? And that's the funny thing.
Starting point is 01:02:08 We've always done 12 days of Christmas. We just never made it public. And it's not the type of thing that, at first, I ever wanted to make public because it is grand. But I decided to start posting it because it's not about the material items that he gives me for Christmas. It's about the intention behind it. It's about the thought. He starts shopping almost a year in advance for that, and every gift comes with something
Starting point is 01:02:40 special. A little note, a little treasure hunt to find the gift, a prayer, a poem, something that is giving of his heart, not giving of his pocket. And that's why when you read the book and you hear y'all talk, that's why you understand why he got so upset at Deezer and Mero. That's not correct. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all relationship is so much deeper than that. Of course, you know, because with their comment, it almost to me suggests as though there's
Starting point is 01:03:07 nothing else worthy about him that would signal me to stay aside from what he has to offer financially. And it's a joke, right? But we all know that all jokes are rooted in some truth. And that's what I think their truth was, looking at it from an outsider. I wasn't some Jackie completely and met somebody with money and was like, oh, come up. We ground it out from day one. I was always there and supporting him and loving him.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And if he failed and wound up being a secretary or anything followed another path, I would still be there. Yeah, I think you'd be a proctologist. It took a beat to get that. What are you talking about? I'm just suggesting other career options that you could have taken. I can't believe he's flirting with me with my wife here. You're disrespectful. Real life, real love.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Thank you for having me, guys. That's right. Pick it up today and it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. No, you got to tell this guest, I love you, before you sign off. Yes. Dear Casey, thank you for joining us. I love you.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I love you, too. I love you way more sure it's the breakfast club good morning The Breakfast Club Well, donkey of the day goes to a 38 year old woman named Briyaka. Briyaka Benjamin. Okay. I'm also at that age where I simply don't understand what certain people be on. So I treat it like I'm at a safari, right?
Starting point is 01:04:55 Well, I'm on a safari. I'm just riding in my Jeep, cruising through the jungle, keep all my limbs in the car, watching the action. Okay. And one thing I like to watch is when people got beef with others and they say when I see my app it's on site now a lot of folks be lying okay a lot of folks be telling the truth though see on site means it don't matter where you at church the doctor's office with your grandmother a funeral for your aunt no I said it's on site and on site means no matter the site is on
Starting point is 01:05:22 now just because I like to watch something doesn't mean I agree with it. I was born in 1978, your Uncle Sharla got rules and one of those rules is that kids should always be protected. You don't do nothing around kids. You put the kids in harm's way and you shouldn't put the kids in harm's way
Starting point is 01:05:38 in any way, shape or form. You hear those tragic stories of people getting shot and killed while they with their kids. People get shot and killed while holding their babies in their arms, that's disgusting to me. Okay, you see someone with their child, you say, you know what, I'll catch them later. Which also really don't make no sense,
Starting point is 01:05:55 especially if your dumb ass plans to kill a person, because you care about kids enough not to want to harm the adult when they're around the child, but you are still willing to take the adult off the earth and leave the child without a parent? Dumb! Stupid ass logic! That makes no sense! But if people made sense then I wouldn't be able to do donkey today every day for the
Starting point is 01:06:12 last 14 years. Now Briaka Benjamin 38 years old walked into the holy grounds of Walmart. Okay the cultural institution that is Wally's world and she saw one of her ops Oh, she saw one of her ops and she must have vowed that it was on site with this person because Briaka had her six month Old baby with her. I repeat Briaka had her six month old baby with her when she saw her op and this happened Let's go to news 15 for the report please. argument before allegedly throwing her baby in a trash can. We'll repeat that. She allegedly threw her baby in the trash can before she got into a fight. As of this morning police say the infant's safe and has been entrusted to
Starting point is 01:07:13 other family members. You couldn't pass the baby to nobody. You couldn't leave the baby in the stroller. The trash can is the best place you could find to put your baby because you wanted to fight. Brionca Benjamin saw her op. She had her six month old baby with her and threw the baby in the trash can to go square up. I don't know if her op was the baby or the woman she was fighting in the store. Okay, you couldn't even put the baby in the recycle bin.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Just throw the baby in the trash. I've heard some wild reasons why folks threw babies in the trash. Brenda threw her baby in the trash, but Brenda barely had a brain. The girl could hardly spell her name. Plus she was young and didn't want the baby. Lucius lying through Jamal in the trash for being gay, but Jamal wasn't a baby. Okay, he was big and gay. There is no reason to put your child in a trash can unless you dressing them up as Oscar the Grouch for Halloween. This is why I be telling folks to go to therapy. This
Starting point is 01:08:03 is why I'm such a mental health advocate advocate because we have to get our minds right. There is no part of the human brain that should say to you, I see my op, I'm gonna throw my baby in the trash so I can go fight. That baby in your arms should be all the reason you need to avoid the trouble. But what you did with that baby in that moment, Briionca, is a reflection of you. It is exactly how you see yourself. You had no problem throwing your baby in the trash because you see yourself and your life is trash.
Starting point is 01:08:32 You don't love yourself. And if you don't love yourself, it's impossible to love anyone or anything else, I guess, including your child. Please give Brionca Benjamin the biggest he-ho. No. please give brianca benjamin the biggest he-haw no no no I see the stupid look in your eye no just you wanna play a game no I want to play a game no this is a fight her name is brianca benjamin okay brianca that's not you should be on
Starting point is 01:09:03 street fighter okay you know we not you should be on Street Fighter okay you know we're not playing the game this you window and you know I'm doing a name Priyanka don't got a daughter named Priyanka yeah Priyanka Priyanka oh man Ivanka Ivanka names of uncle somebody is something Priyanka Priyanka sound like a baby Trump would have with a black mistress What did she do she win the fight? I don't know if she wanted that That's not you're missing them don't matter if you want to do the baby in the trash You think she got I think she was trying to kill two birds in one stone
Starting point is 01:09:34 She didn't want to be she wanted to fight the girl god damn What if somebody would have came up and empty the trash right exactly? What if she you know and they was doing a job exactly what if she got her dumbass knocked out? And then somebody threw the trash out then what? But race was she I'm not playing with you let me alone But race you think she is just Like I don't know I haven't seen I seen the pictures. I don't know what she looked like okay. You want me to Google?
Starting point is 01:10:03 I'll Google all right type it up. You know you be up over there typing and looking up everything else. I'm a Googler right now Let me see that name sound white to me Brion Damn God damn. What is she? God damn. She white as shit. I just I just I just do this right? I'm gonna just I'm gonna just tell y'all She got a mouthful of gold teeth. I mean I mean bullets. I mean loaded. She got all the slugs She's in Florida
Starting point is 01:10:37 Okay, God damn chance Lord have mercy on our soul Jesus Christ, all right, all right man well thank you for that dog and then today don't she not black all right well she's not black right you know what she is I'm not saying that word no I vowed to not say that word you've had a couple times and you still said after that's it right I'm not people need to those let Uncle Rucker say that is powerful. Good. We had work. That's right. Okay Alright I hate y'all the breakfast club Nv Jess hilarious on me the guy we are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building
Starting point is 01:11:23 But today is national Co-Parenting Day. Yes. So we had to bring in a man who I feel like him and Jess have one of the best co-parenting relationships I've ever seen. That's right. And we do. Rome is here. Rome is here. What's up, Rome?
Starting point is 01:11:35 I got in trouble already, Rome, because of you. What happened? Jess said, I want to know who gave Rome some liquor this morning. And I was like, I ain't giving to him. I just told him where the bar was and I said help yourself Yeah, that's fine You said it was apple juice and I was about to take a sip and I was like uh-uh No it was not you already knew it wasn't apple juice. I just ain't thank yous gonna pick the cup up Okay, you and Jess have the best co-parenting situation I've ever witnessed
Starting point is 01:12:00 How did y'all get to this point? And she thinks she my mother first and foremost But um it took time. I felt like when you take the feelings out of it and you realize that the child is the most important part of the relationship because it's still a ratio of the are intimate or not mm-hmm you can do magical things mm-hmm magical things and I think that me being a dad that I was and that I am still today, I wanted that. I felt like if we wasn't going to be together, there was no need for us to beef. We've created over time, whereas now she's my best friend, she's my safe space, I feel
Starting point is 01:12:34 like I can vent to her because sometimes, all the time, I need it. But I feel like when I was pointing to these other women, they would use it against me. Whereas though now, now that she's pregnant. I don't really Call her and say certain things because I know she won't do certain things mentally now So just as always with my safe space though, so it's like she's always been a person that I go to a call Give me advice some advice. I don't take but just the hair but just to hear how give it to me Just to know that she care because I don't really have nobody. How did y'all meet?
Starting point is 01:13:07 How did you meet Jess and how did y'all start dating back then? Where did you see her and when was like, oh this is somebody I want to holla at? It's crazy because we grew up in the same- He's starting to smile, he's going back. Nah, cause my mom, my mom was alive, my mom died when I was 10. My mom was alive, we went to the same church. My mom died, my father like really took me away from everybody. So now it was like fast-forward Mike 17 Facebook and
Starting point is 01:13:32 She came across my timeline and I was like, okay So I did a dot dot dot and I put a basketball emoji. Mm-hmm. Well, you thought she was a WNBA player? No, just shut up man. Junior Boss of these? Nah Well, you thought you were the WNBA player? No. Yo, shut up man. Little junior boss of these- Nah. Playing with you, but got it. Nah, she bit on it too.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Okay. I think I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball, coming to get what's mine, something like that. Hey, I said, what the f*** is this? Why the basketball room? I need to know. I seen it somewhere. What, loving basketball?
Starting point is 01:13:57 No, I seen somebody do that. Like, I don't know where I seen it, man. You gotta understand this one. You put a basketball in the messages. This is 11 years- Okay. 12 years ago. 12 years ago. So I'm like, I don't know, I did it because I. This is 11 years, 12 years ago.
Starting point is 01:14:05 So I'm like, I don't know. I did it because I thought it was corny, but I thought it was, you know. But it worked. It got our attention. What'd you think just when you saw the basketball? I just said, what the f*** is this? Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I just typed it back and he was like, he said, it was my ball. It's my ball. And I'm coming to get it. Or something like that. I'm coming to get what's mine. And I was like, oh, okay. What's up? I already knew what that was giving what it was. It was one about it
Starting point is 01:14:28 But it worked it worked. It worked. So yeah, I started talking. Where was your first date? What was your first when you started first off? What was your honest? Man Jessica did a lot. Mm-hmm. I must say this before Lot of these young guys came Jodie. I was Jodie a lot of these young guys became Jodie, I was Jodie. And our first date, big date, I'm gonna say it was Six Flags. Okay, okay, alright, not doing it big. But before that we did a lot of other things, but after that it was, we did a lot. Like she introduced me to a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Actually, we both was the same age, but she helped make me become, got me to becoming a man. Yeah. Becoming a man and then um, yeah, then boom. Now Jess always says that you are, you were overprotective, made sure she was good. Correct. But then she always said you can't fight. Oh my god. No, she never seen me fight.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Oh. I never had to. Wrong, we fought. I got that from... She did say that. Of course I'm not gonna fight her, bro. Oh, it's crazy, because I just got a picture from the window you bust the most.
Starting point is 01:15:32 She busted your windows out your car? Man, no, one window without fists. What? What happened? Oh, you can't be hurting him. If she could break a window from a fist out, man, I wouldn't even try to fight that. What happened, Rome?
Starting point is 01:15:40 Rome had to take a sip thinking about that. Turn her into him. What happened? What happened? You want a real story? Yeah, of course. All right, my about that man. Turn her into him. What happened? What happened? You want to know real story? Yeah, yeah. All right, my step, like, Jessica pull up.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Mind you, we ain't together. Jessica pulls up. I had a girl in the house. So my brother, like, come to the top of the steps, like, no, Jessica do. I'm like, all right, here I come. The nigga don't even wait for me to come. He let her in.
Starting point is 01:16:02 He let her in. Oh boy. I walked right past him and his friends with the girl That's good. Good. I'm honest. That's but what did I see when I walked down the steps drone? You didn't see so in this you tried to facade just story at Ashton I had a portable rocking bassinet We I could put it in the trunk send it to her bring it back action was in a portable Rocking joint man. The girl the girl was on the bed.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I had on basketball shorts. She had on her uniform pants. She gonna say she's been saying this forever. Uniform pants? She was in the middle there? She was the CO. She was the CO. This is correctional officer. No, she's correctional officer. So like she's sitting, she's facing me, but her legs is like, you know how that go. Jessica come down and say she keeps, she gonna gonna say oh, we was naked we was not naked It even happening. I don't get naked and she top it up no
Starting point is 01:16:52 Okay, oh my gosh, she's never gonna tell the key anyway. She banged the girl you beat up the girl No, she didn't beat up bang like pop this and I'll pick it up and walked up the stairs and throw outside You could never lift me no you never know And walked up the stairs and throw outside from you could never lift me. No you never know Never wants to she never wants to admit the truth. So hold on feel couldn't fight. No, I know Fighting up, but she I had a one time and then she I got up No, she put on her uniform and went and left went upstairs This is the truth is not I promise y'all wish it was our phones and cameras That no, I didn't fight you.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And then my son was not in no portable nothing. He was on the floor on a blanket and a cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him. She's a bold faced liar bro. My basement has cement under the carpet. So I would never lay my, I wouldn't even lay on the floor. Y'all been arguing about this for 11 years now. She never want to tell the truth. She was drunk out of her mind and I'm trying to figure out why the homegirls are drunk there.
Starting point is 01:17:45 First of all I was just getting off of work. You're a goddamn liar. I had a job you didn't. You're a goddamn liar. You did not just get off work. You was fired at that time. So please. No, I got fired right after that.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I was working at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing out the writers for overnights. This is so much Gradle love. I love it. And then if I was drinking okay I was drinking on the job but I was at work. So and then I came to get my son. No you did not come get your son cuz it was my weekend Well, so you're gonna come till Monday from daycare. Why would you come in? Now? You're gonna be nosy Passenger with her I didn't even get in the cold either because she told Jazz to go home. What? Eleven years you still don't like it?
Starting point is 01:18:25 Eleven years old man. That's my dog. How did you punch the window? How did you break the window? Man she had that sh** with her hand. So you walked out and see this car and punched the window? No. I threw her ass out.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You never, Jerome, you was not that strong. Like you did not throw me nowhere. I had you and it was the steps. You jazzy Jeff though. Yeah that right there. He could never ever even right now could not do that to me. window though? I need to call you guys. I was just really really You know, he wouldn't give me my son. She's a lot of my son You call the police and we go try see I didn't call the police
Starting point is 01:19:02 Everybody it is where I'm from the jail is right there right around the corner. You can walk Listen, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on the baby. I was like, all right. Questlove.com Sup, y'all. This is Questlove. And I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Neminy, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
Starting point is 01:19:53 for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The crack of the slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin,
Starting point is 01:20:16 a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history
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Starting point is 01:21:01 No, she ain't even pulled off yet. You was eyewitness. They won't stop. How was I try to get you, how did I try to get you locked up when I'm the same old call trying to bail you out with no money? I don't know why you ever thought you could bail somebody out with no money. I ain't sleep that night. You trying to bail out? You ever went through a woman phone? Of course. Could you eat after that? Yes. You could?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Well I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went Yes. You could? Well, I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went to jail, I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, you know? And I was sick. You were sick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't want her in jail. Why the fuck would I call the police?
Starting point is 01:21:34 All right, we got more with Rome. If you don't know who Rome is, of course, that's Jess Hilarious' baby daddy. And today is National Co-Parenting Day, and we're having a conversation with Rome. So don't go anywhere, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:21:51 We're still kicking it with Rome. That is Jess's baby daddy. Today is National Co-Parenting Day and they are excellent co-parenters and we're having a great conversation. Charlamagne? So now when you hear this story, and you say to yourself,
Starting point is 01:22:04 why are they there on National Co-Parenting Day? Cuz they are like the best of friends now. They call each other Jess calls you her brother. How do you feel about that? How did y'all get there? Do you look at her like your sister? You said mama. I was gonna say what you say you created that Yeah, like my mother like when we are town Now I'm gonna disclose too much, but she thinks she my mama. No, I just know. She likes to control. Like she know how I am though, like me, I'm a loner.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I think part of that controlling part is like, she cares. And sometimes, especially when I'm under the influence, I've done dumb ass shit. So I think. That's good that you know that, you can admit that. Yeah, I've done dumb ass shit. I don't know if you're just assisting the back. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. She's there to help me. Everybody, like, you know, everybody know, but I can admit that. Yeah, I've done dumbass shit. I don't know if you're just assisting the back.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Everybody knows that. But I hold myself accountable to that. Mind you, I ain't going to say I learned from one mistake because I didn't do the dumbass shit over and over again. But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother, the mother with the V, come in. But the brother, her calling me brother and sister, but honestly without the child, it's there. It's seen like Amazon cameras off like you can't fake this or make this s*** up. Oh yeah Rome started that Rome started calling me sis first and then I started calling him bro I you know I'm like yeah we do have like a sibling dynamic in some way you know he still confides in my mom he like my mom is our mother
Starting point is 01:23:24 like it's not and ain't nothing crazy It's nothing intimate like seriously. I always say this people be like yeah, right I can literally walk past and I don't do this when I'm sad can walk past this man Naked and he does they be like girl what like that? I'm talking about seriously like Not each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend Like how do you deal with his girl and how do you deal with my wrong? She told us you had 17 Baby mama But this is this and this was the friction part now we got over that but this is the Frick the friction part was I'm
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'm I've been I'm getting out but the friction part was her getting into mine but she's still a woman I'm still a man. So women tend to do that and this is not no shame to women I don't mean no disrespect by saying it but I think women tend to do that especially a woman that care about you. She said that sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there as your sister to make sure you good. Regardless if it's life, relationship sister to make sure you good regardless of its life Relationship or whatever correct you said that on it with me personally I never really like I talked to about certain things, but I never really like my family to get into no intimate Situation yeah, because guess what?
Starting point is 01:24:38 Y'all could fill a way about this person. I have you I want whether it's negative or good if I'm gonna deal with this person I'm gonna deal with like the female can smack shit out me yesterday I might get over it and fuck them up But it's like that's why I always that's how I was always able to distinguish the two like when Jessica will have men When she come to me like I don't know like like I ain't never pillow talking or sneak dissing or nothing like I don't really care For like it ain't nothing that I don't if you talking or sneak dissing or nothing. Like, I don't really care for like, it ain't nothing I don't have that I don't. If you put it in that sense. But when she come to me with a man, I tell her, I ain't right.
Starting point is 01:25:10 But both of y'all got to care, though, because you don't want to know who around your son, she's going to never. I never did. Yeah, I never. So in the beginning stage, yeah, don't have my son. I grew out of that. So now it's I trust my child mom enough to she won't bring no around my child. So I don't say, oh, don have this sh** around my sh**.
Starting point is 01:25:26 That's never been a problem. What has been a problem was, because envy me, except for my last dog. Yeah, my dog. That's my dog. Who's the dog? My dog, Chris. Chris, okay, it's you to Chris.
Starting point is 01:25:38 My dog, it's my dog. I ain't gonna hold you. I think he's the, I think, like, honestly me and Jess, man, like I think it's been times where a woman didn't like me and her situation but guess what bye. Yeah more so and yeah it'll be more so on his end because it's much more of them but the thing is yeah the thing is like I don't like when I because I even tell him when he doing wrong to you like yo, don't you her like that?
Starting point is 01:26:06 This is now how how how you going introduce me to it now? I now I didn't got to know her, you know And whether she had a kid or not most of the time is the ones that have the kids But it's like yo, you gotta be do right or just be single like don't keep hurting women in the process of Trying to find what you're looking for. I mean I know that's all a part of dating but when you have kids it's different you know and then he'd be like oh that's why I don't like you to be getting into it you know and then I don't like he attracts a lot of toxic women to like
Starting point is 01:26:38 abusive relationships where women will put their hands on I'm like what yeah alright you know but he don't Hey, he's like nah, but I might be with with it I'm all what she just blacked her eye what are you talking about you know I'm saying like no we're not doing it but Claire I never had a black eye okay well she bust your nose whatever women have put their hands on you and that's why she's my dog like I think she's the only one really honestly don't to wanna get the f*** under my skin. Like a certain wordplay she use. And I don't care what tone she use it in.
Starting point is 01:27:11 But to say that, it's like, bruh, I was really never taught how to love. When I moved my dad, I moved my dad and my stepmom, which is my mom now. Me and my mom have a great relationship, that's my stepmom. And my dad was married, but my dad was Cheating like same like my dad. Oh my dad saw me
Starting point is 01:27:33 I'm thinking cool So like when even when I started dealing with women and stuff like that multiple women and all that my dad was like yes Uh-huh absolutely and I'm thinking it's cool. Because that's what we're being told. That's what I'm seeing. That's what I'm being told. And every man in my life that I looked at as a role model to me was the same way.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Same. So it's like what you expect. But the good thing is now is like I'm old enough now, and mind you, I ain't perfect now. I'm seeing it. I'm trying to change it. But I never was taught to love properly. and I never my trust issues up from my dad Because I'm saying what he's doing, but I'm saying when it's done to him his reactions like damn
Starting point is 01:28:15 You were just doing this. How you gonna get mad? Right, so it's like every relationship. I've went into I had an expiration date me I put an X-ray on myself. I said she gonna get what you gonna get get I'm get what I'm getting I'm gone. So I never really gave a woman the Commitment not even commit but I've never gave the woman a chance to really love me But even with the kids like even having kids with other one No, I had and this is like I said no distract my children moms a lot of my my children came out of vulnerability to my children moms a lot of my my children came out of vulnerability. Explain, explain on that.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And I'm explaining that so I will meet a woman who I may feel like she's what I need another safe place or whatever the case may be but I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship. I have a child knowing I don't want to be with this woman but I feel like I'm forced to be with it because it's a child and I've done that you know multiple times. You needed a therapist not another baby model. At the time of me at the time of vulnerability you know women you know women can be masked up but like I never really knew how to be alone like I feel like I gotta have somebody laying next to me. Because even before my mom died, my mom was sleep naked.
Starting point is 01:29:27 This is a back then thing. How old were you when your mother passed? I was ten, but I was a mommy's boy. Did you ever really properly grieve? No. So, grieving, no. I never really grieved. All I did was, I thought it was going to help me by going to school for social work, because
Starting point is 01:29:42 that's what she was. But I never really properly grieved. And that that's a process now I do want to get you know back in the gym I do want to get a therapist but I want everything else around me to be intact so that I could fully commit because if I ain't fully committed it ain't gonna work. Alright we got more with Rome if you don't know who Rome is of course that's Jess hilarious's baby daddy and today is national co-parenting day and we're having a conversation with Rome So don't go anywhere as the breakfast club. Good morning
Starting point is 01:30:09 the breakfast club Everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club was to kick it with Rome That is Jess's baby daddy today is national co-arenting Day and they are excellent co-parenting and we're having a great conversation. Charlamagne? How did y'all, that's the most important thing, I won't say most important, but one of the most important things,
Starting point is 01:30:32 how did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other no more? Like how did that just go away? Like y'all have, y'all love each other, but not that way. I got my ass so you wanna go first? You can go first, for sure, cause I'm still thinking. When I stop caring about who she dealt with I don't know
Starting point is 01:30:47 When I wouldn't even like I wouldn't even care Like, I was almost half a million out of ****. So it was like the pain that I had, whatever the case be, I would pay, I would just buy **** to block it out. But other than that, like. You ain't try to stunt on her a little bit?
Starting point is 01:31:16 No, I never stunt it. No, I never. Yeah. No, I never. I'm waiting for that. I never intentionally stunt it on her. I never did that, never. I did everything she possibly could ask me to do.
Starting point is 01:31:28 And she said on one of these shows, something about a BGE bill, and I'm gonna address that. I never wanted to address it. That was on our show, that was on Co-Parents and Ann Records. I'm gonna address that now. What bill? That's an electric bill, right? So, I'm gonna explain it.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Her lights got cut off. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You just got a $500,000 check and you gonna like it? No, it wasn't right then and there. But it's over time because, mind you, I actually, like mind you, a lot of my place, she helped me get a lot on the back end. But in the time, like I helped her, whatever the case,
Starting point is 01:31:57 I didn't know she was moving with a man. I didn't move with a man. Well, she moved a man in with her. Yeah, after. All right, okay. So he had you in the dark too? no no no no I don't know that he not there so boom here's his so here's his here's my logic and I'm up say what I'm gonna say to her after I explain it my logic was all right man is in the house boom BJ Egi cut off so she like a room
Starting point is 01:32:23 I'm like well I take my son with me. But that wasn't me talking. That was the girlfriend I had talking. Oh, shit. You didn't tell me that. I never told you that because as a woman, you ain't trying to hear that. And as a man, and you being me, I don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 01:32:37 So I didn't want to tell you that because I felt less of a man. Unball your fist, Jess. So yeah, so. But now, enough about understanding. Somebody else is smacking the cheeks. You pay that bill. So listen, so the girlfriend was like. Y'all living in their house. So, yeah, so. But now, but now I understand them. If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, you pay that bill. So listen, so the girlfriend was like. Y'all living in their house.
Starting point is 01:32:48 So, so the girlfriend was like. Don't talk about new house. So listen. Now go ahead. So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount of money out of the bank. I did. She was with me. She like, why are you giving it to Jessica?
Starting point is 01:33:02 I'm like, cause she need it. And she like, oh that's why I'm here, she needed and she like I never said the we're cuz I never said the reason I never said the reason yeah yeah yeah I never said the reason though she was like what exactly do she need cuz I know you ain't giving her no she don't need a bag or nothing like that I'm like no it's something else she like well don't she got a living with and mind you I'm drinking at the time you thinking the same thing I'm like you weren't even thinking that she said it I wasn And mind you, I'm drinking at the time. You thinking the same thing. I'm like, you weren't even thinking that till she said it.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking. And I'm like, you know what, you right. Why you ain't ask Jess though? Crazy. Why you didn't pick up the phone and say, Jess, what's up with you? Because I was a young, emotional boy. Who had just ran into a bunch of money
Starting point is 01:33:38 and a bunch of n****s f****** with that. No, that's, man, I'm hurt. My hurt young man got a lot of money, everybody done f****d me***, I got some money. I'm doing the f***ing one. I'll make myself happy. And that's how I'm f***ing broke. Everybody except me f*** you over.
Starting point is 01:33:53 You feel me? Except her. So that was why I was like, and granted, right now, on today, I'm going to say I truly, sincerely apologize for not taking care of you the way I should have And I'm gonna take my glasses. Yeah because for a long time that hurt me and
Starting point is 01:34:12 It's like I never ever ever especially you I never ever ever ever meant to do that to you And it's like now that's why even I work so hard today And just try to even just give you something But in due time that come back. I ain't you know I didn't made that back when broke again made it back rent broke again But my biggest downfall to common denominator was alcohol and women Them two problems never allowed me to really reach my full potential Right even when I seen a couple years ago you seen it
Starting point is 01:34:44 2019 when I was single when I went moved back by myself I ran in flourish but maybe women holding me back man right I'm sorry that I didn't do what I was supposed to do and a lot of my I was in the jar the way you don't I felt I was my duty but because I had certain people in my in my ear that I thought had their best interest in me but when that bag ran out they left. I'm sorry. I'm not a sorry person. I apologize. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I appreciate that. But listen, I was not, I was talking to an a**hole. He moved in months after you think an a**hole was going to move into a dark house. You think I wanted to see how I was living? No. And when you say, I asked you like, yo, can you just get my my lights on I'll pay you back that's when I was scamming and doing all that shit that got slow too so I'm like all right you was like nah I take my son nobody taking my kid not even his father like as long as
Starting point is 01:35:37 Ash was in the dark we was good you know what I'm saying like I still had candles we was playing we was doing all that we would stay outside that turned you up a notch. Until it went until it got dark and then we were going to house And he ain't never asked me why the lights ain't coming on. It don't matter. So as long as he was good I was good. I just wanted to be able to call your baby You know I'm saying and just be like yo get my lights back on for me. And you should have. But guess what? That made you a demon and when I say demon I say in the best way that turns you up and You I got to teach my kids, especially my oldest boy my 11 year old Bro, like I don't want you to have to go through something bad to learn a lesson
Starting point is 01:36:12 I don't think everybody should go through something bad and learn a lesson. But in your case, I Feel like yeah, I put that battery in your back and no when that battery came in your back. You mean You treat me. No way. No, it took still a minute for us to create that bond yeah but y'all have it now and I think y'all both should give each other some grace because y'all was dumb young and I always was a hurt young man so you're right I love this story it shows the foundation and how y'all are now yeah and how y'all treat each other now you know I don't you, but the way she talks about you on the radio and like you said, she is a mother,
Starting point is 01:36:48 she protects you, she holds you down. I just love to see it. Yeah. No, sometimes I be telling her to stop talking about Rome like that. He always do. I do. But it's like, why you be talking about Rome?
Starting point is 01:36:57 But I get it, she don't mean no harm by it. No, she don't. Like I said, man, like, I wish a lot of other people would take from us. And that's why this shit gotta be on TV. That's why y'all writing a book. Yeah. Like I said man, I wish a lot of other people would take from us. And that's why this shit gotta be on TV. That's why y'all writing a book. Yeah, all that.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Book coming, everything coming. Book coming. Yes. Everything coming, man. What do you think the most important thing, because I want y'all to save a lot of this, but what's the most important thing it takes to co-parent? If y'all just, leave it on that,
Starting point is 01:37:20 because it's National Co-Parenting Day. Yo, I'll tell you, I'll start it off. Communication, like a lot of people be scared to hurt each other's feelings and a lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations whether it's about kids, unhashed differences, whatever like one day me and Rome just literally met up and we just talked about everything that you know he felt like I did him wrong in certain situations And then he felt like like I will always try because he says I'm controlling a lot and I do take that you know I'm saying I'm yeah I own that I do like I was trying to control how he parents sometimes like how he would raise ash and all of that
Starting point is 01:37:58 Type of stuff we just put everything on a table and just just was like all right, you're moving forward, because it's really about Ash. And that's really like when we, after that it was like no looking back, it's like all right, whatever, cool. Piece of cake. I'm sure it's a discussion that'll continue on, not even just amongst Jess and Rome, but just amongst anybody out there
Starting point is 01:38:18 that's dealing with co-parenting issues. But I think Rome is talking to a lot of different issues that a lot of us men go through, you know what I mean? So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning, Rome. That's right. Thank you. And their book is coming soon, via Black Privilege Publishing, Simon & Schuster.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I love you more, sis. All right, well it's Rome, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Yes, it's the World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, the Breakfast Club, Charlamagne the God here. I just want to tell all of y'all happy New Year, man. And may this New Year all your dreams turn into reality and may all Your efforts turn into great achievements man salute. See y'all in a week

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