The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Self Help - Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, Wallo, Jay Shetty + More

Episode Date: January 1, 2025

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to those three individuals next, all throughout the show, so don't go anywhere as the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Break it up. This is your time to get it off your chest. She's calling. 800-585-1051. We wanna hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?

Hi, this is Tamika from WatchFactor. Hey Tamika, get it off your chest, mama. Okay, good morning DJ and the Charmaine. I'm a fan. Good morning. I just wanted to get off my chest the fact that I did nothing and now I'm broken up with the boyfriend that I've been with for three years because his girlfriend, his side girlfriend thinks that I'm her stalker. Wait a minute.

His side girlfriend thinks that you're his stalker? Mm-hmm. Alright, explain this to me a little bit more now. So. Okay. Okay. So I've been with this boy for like almost three years. Okay. And when I came out of my relationship, he came out of his relationship for a long time. And he still wanted to explore and all that and we didn't know what we was. So he told me like oh I'm talking to this one I'm talking to that one talking that one. So it's like okay whatever.

But time had passed and he had started moving his stuff into my apartment and we started establishing things. I worked for the city, I put him on my insurance, we started establishing and making plans. I put him on my insurance. We started establishing and making plans. I didn't realize how strong of a connection he was making with other girls, but then he comes to me one day and tells me that the other girl... Okay, okay, I've heard enough.

So you're not his only girl? No. I'm not his only girl, no. Okay, so what are you calling here to ask us? Well, she's upset because she put him on insurance. She thought it was serious. I'm not looking for just being off my chest. I wasn't asking anything.

Oh you just mad at yourself for being stupid? Hey. Yes. How old are you? 34. 34 years old. How many girls does this man got? Who knows?

But you can understand it though. How many yeast infections have you had since y'all been dating? Come on. I know your pH balance is always off. Oh stop it, come on. No, it's not. It's not.

Oh okay. I understand though, cause you put him on it's not. It's not. Oh, okay. I understand though, cause you put him on insurance, he moved in, you thought it was more serious than it was and he was still playing the field. Well see, I wanna tell you that you know you can do better. That's not the point that I'm not at. The point that I'm not at is that I have nothing to do with his other relationships and I'm being accused of being a random girl stalker. I never noticed that.

Why would you even care? You shouldn't even speak to her in that way. Why would I even care? This is what I'm saying. You ever been accused of something you absolutely did not do? Yes. And just super fucking frustrated,

but then also super relieved because it's like, you never trust me in the beginning, but it's just super fucking But uh understand that the truth don't need no defense it only needs witnesses so as long as you know the truth That's the most important thing But the truth is you just wanted his man's holes now you need to ask yourself Do you just want to be one of these man's holes or do you want to be more to somebody? Cuz if you want to be more to somebody because if you want to be more To somebody then you need to go find that somebody because it's not gonna be with him. Yeah, I'm sorry

You went through that mama, but take them off Going to it now take them off the insurance. He's still on insurance. Yeah, who that talking to you in the background? Nobody that show on the radio. Oh, yeah, man You just another one of his holes man, and I and you know I think that you deserve better than that But you know he did keep it 100 with you from the beginning not like he lied to you He didn't lie and y'all didn't have a conversation You just assumed because he moved in but that was not a great assumption obviously

I know it's hard. I know it's hard three four years of raw sex three. You know I'm saying him blowing in your boogie I know it got I know it got you a little open, man, but you know, you deserve better. Thanks. I'm sorry, mama. Have a great day. Have a good day. Damn, man. She should take him off insurance right now.

She not. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray Ray Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Livy, what up?

Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We live? Hello, who's this?

Hey guys, it's Sandra, the Haitian therapist. Hey Sandra, it's good to see you. Hey, Saqib, I heard from you in forever, Sandra. Where you been at? I know, just working, you know, it's Sandra the Haitian therapist. Hey Sandra. Hey, Saqibah saying hi to you forever, Sandra. Where you been at? I know, just working, you know, busy seasons for depression and anxiety. Yes it is. Seasonal depression is a real thing around this time of year. So I listened to the Dr. Cheyenne Bryant interview and I just wanted to make clear that she is

not a licensed therapist. Some of the things she was saying was pretty concerning, especially with saying people can't change. That's the foundation of our whole thing, is that you can change, and that it would be completely unethical to see a wife and a husband separately, and then together for couples counseling.

That is not something that counselors can do. I think people took out, they took it out of context when she said you can't change those. She was just saying that you gotta be willing to shift something in you first before you make a permanent change. No, I didn't take that. No, I don't know.

No, I didn't take that. No, I don't know. No, I didn't take that. Cause even you questioned it, like you know what I mean? Like she said that after you questioned it. Yeah, after that. She said people pivot, they don't know, she said that. Cause even you questioned it, you know what I mean? She said that after you questioned it. She said people pivot, they don't change. She said people pivot, they don't change. No, she said the pivot starts to change.

And that is not true. No, she said the pivot. That is the basis of our whole therapy, is that you can change. And so Dr. Elliot Coney, he is my number one. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have gone into private practice, because solution-focused brief therapy is my favorite.

It's the best. Motality. Yes, he is. It is absolutely the best. Everybody should pick up Elliot Kani's book, Change Your Questions, Change Your Futures, out right now. And thank you for calling. Because you can change, no problem.

And check out the Family Therapist Podcast on the Black Effect iHeart Radio Podcast Network hosted by Elliott Conner. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is James Call from North Carolina. James from the Carolinas. What up?

Get it off your chest. What part? I'm from Lumberton. Lumberton. All right. Get it off your chest, brother. Yeah. I wanted to ask y'all.

When y'all interviewed Jaleel White, did he happen to mention what it was like to work with Michael Boogaloo Shrimp Chambers? Who the hell is that? Michael Who? Y'all don't remember him man? That's Turbo from Break In and Break In 2. Oh, Break In was my movie. Oh wow. I didn't know he was in the movie. Nah, he was in one of the episodes on family matters. He played his orc obi. I don't remember I we didn't ask him about that. I'm salute the turbo though. You threw me off and you said Michael boogaloo Yeah, boogaloo. Yeah, that's about that one, brother

Wonder that's great. I never knew turbos real name till you said it and I thought Boogaloo was the light skinned one with the hat that wore the hat. And the nose ring, yeah I didn't know that was Turbo. Get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. If you need the vent hit us up now, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody, it's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club.

Lorne LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. We have Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Welcome. Hey, what's up, Breakfast Club? You are one of the people in the mental health space who's really using social media right. Right, like you know, cause you've used it to

elevate your platform and just elevate the conversation around mental health, so I applaud you on that. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, I always say I didn't get into this field to become a celebrity, but God has his own plans, right? So I literally in my master's and my doctorate program, I remember my professor saying, everyone who's going to get licensed raise your hand. I didn't raise my hand. Everybody else did. And he's like, doc, you know, what's shining at that time, you're going through all this and not get licensed. I'm like, no, because I'm going to be on a platform where I'm able to change

lives. Didn't think that it ended up being a platform where to this magnet to one and then to the place where literally I didn't want it, the whole celebrity status and lifestyle. And not that I'm saying I don't want it now and I don't like it. It's just this is not where I expected it to go. But again, if God needs to use a celebrity-ness, you know, whether the celebrity status brings me the naysayers or the sayers, whatever it brings, as long as they can get a tip or two that gives them a better quality of life and helps them become better mentally, then run the play.

I'm good with it. Now you talk about your calling. So when it comes to your calling, what is your calling? What are you specialized in? Is it relationships? Is it dealing with people's problems? Is it just listening? What is your specialty when it comes to it?

And what's your calling? I love that. So I started off as a marriage and marriage family child therapist, and I told God I said listen I'm a little girl from the hood You know what I come from don't put me in the hood and don't put me with court-ordered DCF kids Not that I had a problem with him I didn't want to be triggered dealing with him and I didn't want to have to deal with what I came from I wasn't in the system but I came from that type of adversity and The first place God put me was off of Hardell and Slauson, I don't know if

you're all familiar with LA, but a block away from Slauson swap me in the hood and every one of my clients were court ordered, DCFS, Department of Family and Child Services. We have moms in there who were pregnant, still hitting the pipe, asking me can I sign off on the documents so they can get the kids back because I was predicated on their reunification with their kids and so started off as doing that. When I got my doctorate I transitioned to a psychology expert life coach. My specialty then was marriage, family, and child therapy so that is my foundation. So now that I am a psychology expert life coach I can't't get rid of that because I that's my foundation I do psycho dynamic CVT, but I couple it which is my hybrid approach with coaching

So it's therapy and coaching which is hybrid and I say this without humility That's why I'm so affected because therapy is tell me more. Let me hear about your trauma your daddy issues your mom issues Why are you who you are? And then once you you're finished dealing with that and you process that okay DJ envy Where the hell you going from there? I do have one one other question when it comes to the therapy part aspect I'm sure the world has been watching the Mendez Brothers, right and I had a question, right? So the Mendez Brothers if you don't know they confessed their crime to the therapist And they believed that the therapist could not tell police officers because it was, I guess, patient client privilege. But they did. So does that mean anything that I tell a therapist or that anybody tells a therapist can and can possibly be used against them in the court of law?

100%. So a therapist is only under confidential oath unless you are threatened to kill yourself and someone else. And it can't just be a threat. unless you are threatened to kill yourself and someone else and it can't just be a threat it has to be you have it you actually have like a action plan to do so right you can't just come to me say hey dog look you know I want to kill myself I will help you process through that and hopefully talk you off the ledge but if you say I got a plan at 9 p.m. I'm leaving the house I'm gonna do X Y & Z to my wife and I have a duty to report if I'm subpoenaed to court I have to speak on that can you reach out to the court and say subpoenaed to court. I have to speak on that. Can you reach out to the court and say subpoena me?

I need to be subpoenaed. I need to be subpoenaed. I'm subpoenaed. I personally would never do that just because I believe in following the oath of, and maybe I just love and respect my clients too much, but if you came to me and said something, I'm just not. And I know this is smaller than murder,

but I've had married couples who come separately and together and the husband is just lighting it up in his individual sessions. Like, I'm cheating, I'm intimate with this person and that person, his family members, it's this, and I'm having to just make sure I process my countertransplants, because I'm sitting there like, damn, and I have her in one hour.

In one hour. Now of course, if it was like my girlfriend, I'd be like, ****. They're still violating the current proven code. You would take your girlfriend though, right? Because my best friend couldn't be, that's a compliment. She could never come to me as a psychology expert or anything like that.

But then I'd be ripping into him. Talk to me from the human perspective. You still a real ****. I am. When you hear stuff like that, when you hear the guy come in one hour, he doing X, Y, and Z, and the woman comes in the next hour, what is going through your mind about the

dude? You know, in my mind, honestly, what I try to do, and some of my clients have followed this guidance. I have one client now, he's married and the wife is attempting to divorce him, and she's divorcing him because he cheated, but she doesn't have any hard facts on him. So I've actually been able to process with him whether you're gonna be with this woman or not, if you wanna be with her or you wanna be able to leave

and do better, at some point you gotta be able to be real with yourself and real with her and you gotta be transparent. When do you plan on doing that? So he just literally this week or last week, cause this week he told me, Doc, I sat with her and I told her that it's been a few times that I did cheat. And I said how does she respond he said she said now we can have a conversation Because now you keep it real and when I had her in session I said listen triggered triggered right?

You have two options said either if you're willing to learn to love a dog We can start that process because you know or we can start the process of you leaving and starting over and she goes What do you mean by dog? He said but he did we've been together for 10 years. He's never cheated the first time I said, no, no, baby. I said he'd been quiet for 10 years He decided to bark on your number 10 So you don't think that he could change in that marriage and not cheat anymore? First of all, nobody changes including me We shift and that changes our life and when say we shift, we shift out of the things

and behaviors that don't serve us after we learn. They're not working. Gotcha. And then we have to learn to manage those. So I am very firecrackery. When I was younger, I was very temperamental. I was very, you know, who the fuck are you talking to real quick? I just, because of my trauma, because of things,

I just had a very protective, by all means necessary, I'm the oldest of seven. So I was, you know, I've light this place up. Is that still in me after all of my healing? Hell yeah. Do I manage it? Absolutely. Managing it just means that I'm high function, I'm able to regulate my emotions, identify my emotions, don't get into my feelings because emotions are healthy feelings cause problems. And I can just say, okay, identify that I'm angry, I'm frustrated, so now let me choose my response. Before I was low functioning. Once I felt it, I was triggered. And everybody here was going to go no, and it was going to be a problem. So does that still come up?

Yeah. But do I have self-taught that says, we're not doing that. So you would never date a man that cheated before because you feel like he will always be a cheater? Is that what you're saying? I think that's also circumstantial So I do believe that different relationships bring out different things in us I was also an extreme alpha in my first engagement I had two engagements caught up to weddings my first relationship that was engaged to I was extreme alpha So even if he tried to be alpha I left no space It was like hell no by all means necessary because I said so and you can walk.

Like I'm chasing my career, I know my value, I'm not fabulous, I got a daddy, he spoils me, good day. So even in that, do you feel like that he wasn't man enough for you? Or like what was that? Do you think that's your fault? Do you look back and be like, ugh, I was trying to be the man. Not trying to be the man, but I actually, I gave him, because you just said you gave no room for him to do it so do you regret that part of it? I think that's a duality I think he chose a woman who was alpha because it fed something in him that was beta yeah I chose a man who was beta because my alpha needed to be inflamed but my second engagement he was alpha that's why I say circumstantial but not only was he alpha I was ready I had these submissive fills in me already,

so by the time we got in a relationship, I was a hybrid by then. I was alpha submissive. So I was cooking, he was daddy, I was soft, I was in my feminine, and the blessing of that is, I got to experience both, and I learned that I feel more in love with myself in my softness than he probably did.

Yeah, that thing. All right, we have more with Dr. Shianne Bryant when we we come back so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ envy just hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club We're still kicking with dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Of course. She has a show truth talks on Fox soul Monday through Friday at 8 p.m She's a psychology expert a life coach Jess So the interview with cam and also I saw that you sat down with Nick they reach out to you Or did you reach out to them? So Nick reached out to me? Okay and said doc. What's that?

Like I want to work through something. Hmm, but I want to work through it on camera And I said, okay, no problem, but I'm gonna penetrate so we're not doing that's right penetrate crazy so when you like penetration because Nick always goes doc do you have to use that word I'm like yeah I am I'm penetrating you at the space that obviously is broken yeah and that is functional intoxicant. So when you say, you need to grow up too. See men just don't change. Nope, like you two your point. They can't make no point. 12 year old girl right now. Yeah. Little boy. It's definitely present, definitely present. So when he says, all right, I need to work through some things, you're like, okay, on camera.

Does that then in your mind say, is this for real, for real? Or do you want to appeal to a certain market, you know, to a certain audience? I love that. You know what I'm saying? Great observation. I didn't look at it like that because I look at it like I have a job to do and so my intent was to use Nick's situation and Shift a whole culture of black men

Saying what can and it happened there were a lot of naysayers But a lot of black men were actually in there creating the viralness and saying listen doc is right We need to create more husbands and less baby daddy Cam was resistant but cam to answer a lot of questions in his household. Cam had a lot of stuff, he had a lot of different conversations he had to have with that woman. You know?

You know? Yeah, I saw Cam say that it affected his relationship with his first two baby moms and his current situation. Yeah. Do you feel any remorse for that? No. Yeah, do you? Because I'm here to interrupt that pattern, no.

Like, this should have been interrupted a long time ago. A long time ago, yeah. You know, Cam, and you come from, and not that this breeds good decision-making people, but Cam comes from, he's a pastor's child. He comes from two parents that are still married and they're still very, they're pastors, very much involved with the church. That goes to show you, like the Bible said, it was good for me that I was afflicted. Because you got people who come from brokenness,

that's why I said these kids are not doomed, who make different decisions because it's not about where, a lot of times it's not where you going that gets you where you going, it's where you trying to get the hell away from. And a lot of times parents, yeah, like I was telling Ray J this, Ray J is my client as well, and leave my boy alone, leave Ray. I was telling Ray, I said, Ray, I love your parents. They showed you everything to do right. They didn't show you what not to do. And see, for me, I had a circumstance, an

environment that showed me everything not to do. Right. So sometimes knowing what not to do saves you from doing the wrong. I was just going to ask, how do you deal with your other clients if you have Ray J? Yeah, who do you talk to after you talk to Ray J? Do you have a therapist? I do. I have that.

I have wise counsel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a nice group, a nice really healthy ecosystem of people who are counselors and coaches and who are not. What do you say to people that say, how do you give advice on marriages and marriage couples when you're not married? What do you say to people that say, you know, how do you give advice on marriages and marriage couples when you're not married? What do you say to those people? I love that.

I say that I don't want to hear you being together 15 years with a miserable 13. I would rather take advice from a single woman or man who's happy, thriving, successful, meaning in their joy, not just in their monetary value, than someone who is miserable in their marriage with a side dude and a side chick and you want to give me advice that you give yourself that you use in your failed marriage? I'll pass. I'll pass. I'll pass. And what happens is married people like to shun on single folks. The Bible also says single people are happy people. Look that up. It says marriage takes discipline. No, it says marriage takes discipline. A lot of times they say that you reach out to older couples that's been married longer

because they'll tell you how to deal with the marriage than people. You know, like some people say don't hang out with your single friends. You talk to married couples that's been in that situation longer. And you know why that's true? Because folks who've been married 10, 15, 20 years, they've been through the trenches. So they're not going to teach you how to be happy. We got that single, sis. We got that. I've had that all my life. They're going to teach you how to get through the times when you ain't happy.

Y'all married, you know that. Let's not play this game. You married, you know that. You think people get married too early? I think people choose the wrong people. I think people choose their fairytale ideology. They're not choosing the person. See, people are choosing marriage and not a husband. They're choosing marriage and not a wife. And so you're choosing marriage you get the title you get the looks of it But you're not getting a person so you're a beautiful house who's homeless. They like the idea of Idea and those are people who are fatherless sometimes motherless who just need something to be a part of I just need this companionship I want the title.

I don't feel valued, I don't feel validated. So because we're married, I got somebody who's checking for me, I got somebody who can get me through the day. But you gotta be able to check. Even in marriage, I was engaged for 10 years, you know, because I kept calling it off, calling it off, and he was like, you keep getting these degrees,

you keep saying, wait for the next degree, we're getting married. And by the time I went and got my doctor, he's like, baby, you done got four degrees. I ain't waiting no more. Engaged for 10 years? I kept putting it off cuz I knew that that wasn't my person And I end up leave I end up leaving him, you know unfortunate for him We're going to live ten years ten years and she said he was a great guy. He was a great guy

He just wasn't my guy right and so for ten years. He thought he was the guy You scrung him along for ten years Why you let him go be great with somebody else that would appreciate him and love him so I'm not saying for ten years I knew he wasn't the one When we got about year number five or six and I seen that his work ethic and his ability to Provide at the level that I wanted our family to be at I knew that he wasn't mine My guy and when I say provide I'm not talking about like he was making six figures and I was like, now make millions. I'm saying his thing was, baby, I'm cool with me,

you a dog in a one bedroom apartment and just no work ethic at all. So for the first six years, I thought, well, I'm out here getting it, I have a legal company, I own property, I'm only 22, I'm getting all these college degrees, how can he not be inspired by me? See, that's that age appropriate young woman,

he got potential, let me stay. That's why people should take their time. When I seen you number seven and eight, this guy was the same guy who was, I hate talking, because he's such a good guy, I always protect him when I talk about him, but where he was lazy and he had no work ethic, I had a pivot.

Did he acquire more in the future? No, he's still in the same place. So I made the right decision. All right, we have more with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant when we come back. Don't move, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, psychology expert life coach. You

know, she has her show Truth Talks on Fox. So now I want to ask you about some internet rumors that I see. You know, Corey Holcomb said some things about you about not having your degree and where you started off as a, I see. You know, Corey Holcomb said some things about you, about not having your degree, and where you started off as, I guess, working in the strip club. Is any of that stuff true? You said you're not a real doctor. You said, yeah, you're not a real doctor.

No, so I have four degrees. Three are in psychology, one's in Pan-African Studies. My doctor degree is in counseling psychology. My master's in marriage, home, and child therapy. All degrees are in psychology. Where this Corey Holcomb thing comes from is we did, I was on a show 10 years ago when I actually I think it was before I even had my doctor degree. And Corey is used to being able to be very disrespectful to women and do this

thing. He was on a show with him or was just? He was a guest on a show. I was co-hosting. He was a guest. And I drilled his ass to be honest. It's on YouTube. People could, you could look at it, and I cut into him and I said, you seem like you are inferior to white men. You seem like you got daddy issues, and you seem like you got mommy issues. You got kids that don't even talk to you or respect you.

They don't like you. It tells a lot about your character. This was 10 years ago, okay? And obviously he's still in his feminine because he's still holding a grudge over it. You know, this is like, interviews are interviews. Are you saying you do them when you move on to the next. And so was very upset.

And I felt like in that in that space, he was. You know, I could watch it. He was dumbfounded. Like usually he comes back with the, you know, FUB or he has something to say. Corey is it. Corey is just a broken person, period. And I do feel like you'll need help. He needs help. Corey needs off camera.

If Corey came to me and said, Doc, let's do off camera sessions. 100% 100% If he wants to do it on camera, because it's just gonna be a rhetoric. I'm not doing that to help his career. I will help him as a man. But I'm not here to help him in his career. That's his job. I'm not here to carry a man that ain't mine or float a man that ain't mine. But to help you with your mental health or help you as a person. He's an alcoholic. He drinks a lot. You know, he's overcompensating those areas, those are places he needs help with. Did you guys see what he looked like on Camp Newton interview? And I'm not talking about looks meaning attractiveness. Do you see how unwell hygienically clean he

looks? God damn it. Alright Dr. Bryant, law have mercy. No, let me say why. No, this ties into mental health. That man's hygiene was on negative 200. What I'm saying is he needs deeper help than me coming on 5150. Yeah. To bring him a bigger audience.

He can still do 5150, but he needs to be able to 5150 himself and get the help that he needs. Lord have mercy. God, girl, I knew that's right. I saw you said too that you comment on the fact that Kamala didn't come out that first night when she didn't win. You speak to that you comment on the fact that Kamala didn't come out that first night when she didn't win

You speak to that and speak to the common because we were upset about oh, yeah another unpopular opinion I don't care. This is she proved why the people men and women Who are not ready for a woman president are not ready for a woman president because society and some men not all deemed women as president because society and some men not all deem women as emotionally unstable and unable to regulate our emotions. Sis when these when you knew you weren't winning or weren't in the lead and these kids these babies these adults were at a historical black university that you went to Howard waiting hours for you they had volunteered I'm sure they had contributed and they probably voted for you and supported you this entire time. You couldn't come out and address the people who supported you? That's proven to the people who don't believe women could lead at that level that a woman

can't regulate her emotions enough to come out and take an L. I don't care if she would have came out in tears. Listen, I'm sorry we lost, whatever that looks like. I'll give a little pushback on that because Donald Trump never gave a confession speech. Hillary Clinton didn't. Nor would he even admit that he lost. But we're talking about Trump who runs on being that type of person. So his people never expected that.

Just like when someone says, well Trump's a racist. He's running on that. Trump is talking about getting rid of DEI. He has said that to us. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Now I get what you're saying. But Kamala came out and showed us all this love and support. But when you took the L, not only did you not come out, you sent a man to come out and address these people.

Said it to Grisham. He was fine too. You didn't even send another woman, or a black woman. This was a woman's moment. And in my opinion, all that did was tell the folks who said women can't lead See she sent a man out to do it and then came out the next day That's not leadership to me leadership is is commitment and commitment is doing what you said you would do regards of how you feel I don't care how you felt Kamala come out and address us those kids left what they had down

They weren't sad just cuz she lost they were sad because they were looking for who was still their leader, whether she lost or not, to come out and address those kids. I was going to ask, when's the last time you apologized or last time you were wrong about something? You remember? Good question, Evie. It probably was 1984. No, it probably was to my best friend Lola and my assistant. We work so closely together. We're always together. Because I'm so comfortable with her, she gets all of my moving assistant, we work so closely together. We're always together.

Because I'm so comfortable with her, she gets all of my moving parts, to be honest with you. What about to a man that you're dating? He ain't never getting an apology. That happened. I actually got it though because you are very strong in opinion and stuff like that. I think men think that women that are structured, you don't know how to be accountable and don't know how to apologize. I'm very accountable.

I do apologize That's why I said I want a man who will say With respect and he ain't about to just dominate like shut your ass up tight, you know He could be disrespectful, but I want a man who's like hold on you out of pocket right now You know like we don't do that. Yeah, this is not what we do and I like you strong, but this is not strong This is disrespectful, baby But I want him to be able to know how to say it and then I will be strong, but this is not strong. This is disrespectful, baby But I want him to be able to know how to say it and then I will be like, you know Even if it's not in that moment, I can process and be like, you know what? You're right and I do I will apologize I will come to myself because I have the discipline of that self talk of saying stop, you know Or I will say listen, you've already apologized you've done everything you could right now. It's not a you problem

I'm still trying to get out of my ego. So just give me 30 minutes because baby, you've apologized. Like you've done your job. And then I come around in 20, 30 minutes and I'm like, okay, I'm back and I'm sorry too. That's awareness, that's accountability. I'm sorry too. And the thing is when you really want peace,

and that's the thing about being single for so long though, you- I can, yes. You find a- You figure it out. You find I can, yes, you, you figure it out. You find a piece and a joy that when you do get in a relationship, it gotta make sense. And when you do get in a relationship though, you're really saying, let's dead in this, let's dead in this argument.

Have you ever got afraid that you're going to get so used to that piece that you're not going to want to do nothing? Because I tell myself that all the time, like I'm in such a good state. I don't want nothing to bother me. But people come with flaws. Shut up, Shana Mae. He's a hater. Well, he's a hater. No, because I have been, I to bother me, but people come with flaws. Shut up, Shana Mae! He's a hater. Well, no, because I have been serial dating for the six years I've been single.

So when I say single, it means I haven't been committed. But have I had like three months, six months relationships that went that long season and were exclusive and were committed in that season? Because I am very into exclusivity. I don't like casual sex. And so I will accidentally go a year, year and a half, celibate because I don't like the casualty of sex. And when I decide to, I would choose that one person

to be around for the long term. Well, when does that decision happen for you? Now, I'm in my choosing stage. So it's gonna happen now, like soon? I'm in my choosing stage, but I'm not desperate. So it's not like, again, I'm not choosing just a high valued man. I will even take a man it's not like, again, I'm not choosing just a high-valued man. I would even take a man who's a little less value, meaning a little less income money,

but I just love this man. He's my person, right? So yeah, yeah. I mean, he can, yeah. So I would, and I would rather have a regular man who isn't in the limelight, who we both don't have to straddle this whole industry thing, and he can go run a business or go be a corporate guy he can come to my shows and we can go home and have intellectual pillow talk I can go home and put my hair in a bird's nest and walk around with sweats and a tank top and no bra

you know the bird's nest is no I definitely know what it is. Oh wait, he just. Lauren do too? Yeah. You know what? So you got the show Truth Talks. I do. Truth Talks. Yes, yes, yes. Talk to us about that before we get out of here. Oh my god. So Truth Talks is my new talk show.

It's on Fox. It's Monday through Friday at 8 PM. Congratulations. Why would somebody give you a talk show? Are you good at talking or something? No. Not at all. Not at all.

It's funny. Sometimes the producers are like, Doc, you know, give the other co-hosts time to talk. I'm like, really? I'm like, I gotta do that? Yeah. But it's cool, because we're pretty much, we're a global news, we're a CNN

that gives you the black voice, the black perspective, and we're bringing truth to everything, news with culture, twist to it. So we're every night, 8 p.m. Brian time. Love that. Yeah. I appreciate you joining us. Yeah.

Cheyenne. Follow me on underscore Dr. Brian on Instagram, social media, or you can go to drbryant.co and that's drbryant.co not dot com. And then I'm on my speaking tour. Yeah. Dr. Cheyenne, Brian, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you Dr. Brian.

Thirdly, enjoy the conference. Thank you so much. Thank you all for having me. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Thank you, Dr. Brian. Thoroughly enjoyed the conference. Thank you so much. Thank you all for having me. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren's filling in. And we got a special guest in the building, ladies and gentlemen. It's going down. Wallo. Listen, man. Welcome to the Breakfast Club this morning.

Presented to you by Million Dollars Worth a Game. Listen man, we didn't board the company man, it's good. It's going down man, we're doing it big now man. Got my brother right here. I'm so proud of you Wallo man. Listen man, listen I want to give you, before I even start I got to give you your flowers cause you been, man you, me and you had several phone calls, we had a thousand phone calls.

A couple years ago you hit me up, you was like, Wallo, you need a book. This was years ago. And you was talking about how you and Kev was talking about, you and Kevin Hart was talking about something. Man, Wallo would be crazy on an audio book, which I did my own audio book. Shout out to Ayanna Van Zandt also who did the audio, she did the forward for me. Shout out to 13A, my publisher, man, for you know. Charles Su. Yes, for making it it happen Simon and Schuster But are we here now? You told me you keep telling me about a book of your book the book changed your life

That's right. You got too much of a story man. The book the book That's all you kept saying and now we here man All we're good attention is game changer. The book title is perfect for you because there's not too many people on this planet who come with good Intentions like Wallow does. Appreciate that. When did you develop that that mentality? I don't know man I was on the street corners. I was I was I had good intentions like Wallo does. When did you develop that mentality? I don't know man, I was on the street corners. I had good intentions on the street corners. I just wanted to steal American dream. And I said man, this is too slow.

The only people that got respect in my neighborhood was the successful criminals. So even though I was a good person growing up, my grandma raised me well, my mom, you know, I was like, I gotta figure this out. So I said, I gotta, man, only people they respect out here is the people that's winning by any means. And then even in America, I was like, damn, hold up, America?

They only respect the Scarface? They only respect the Godfather? They don't respect nobody else? I gotta go get some money. So even though my heart was good, I had to go figure it out. And that led me to prison most of my life. But even in there- You spent 13 years, right?

20? 20. I did 20 penitentiary, five years in and out of juvenile system and even in there I remember you know, oh yeah, all I did was laugh in jail and just do what I needed to do, educate myself because I realized that and to the point where somebody said I was one of the nicest dudes in prison because I knew why I was there. I did mine so I was accountable for my bull**** so you, and that helped me change and develop into what I become today. You know, I'm just happy to be here. And I try my best to share all the knowledge that I got, as you know, with our people to show, let's listen,

we bigger than what y'all think we are. Because I always say this, and it's crazy to me, it's like, you know, back in the day, we didn't have nothing, but we had everything because we had each other. And that was important. And it's like, it seemed like now we find so many reasons not to deal with each other and it's like god damn who you're working for? Like you go on social media it's like who you're working for but I had to realize something a lot of us don't want to look in that mirror and deal with it I don't hate envy because of his money, his cars, his family, his marriage I hate envy because envy get in love with doing something that I always wanted to do,

but I ain't have enough heart to go out here and do it. Well, die you big? No, I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about the general. Yeah, he do got that Beijing. But I'm just saying, like, shout out to Beijing, get my deal. But like this and this.

It's just for man, but. Oh damn, okay, he better be paying you the way you need it for that. Okay. Promo. But what I'm saying is like, that's how our culture became. It became like this in social media made it like, a lot of people gotta look in the mirror and say,

damn, I didn't materialize my dreams. And that's the hardest thing to do. So it's more easy to say, Charlamagne the sucker, envy this, Lord this, just this. It's much more easy said than to say, let me get off my ass and go ahead and do something with my life. But it's just sad out here when you see it now.

And it's just like, we just, I don't know, man. And all we ever had was each other. That's the only way we ever something with my life. But it's just sad out here when you see it now. It's like we just, I don't know, man. And all we ever had was each other. That's the only way we ever made it in life. In the book you say, it's actually in the chapter Arm of Good Intentions, you said you screamed out one day and you made it a daily reminder that nobody will save you. Nobody.

Especially when I was in prison, I'm like, we can play in the, we don't, I'm like, yo, bro, we inside these white folks' spot. Man, ain't nobody coming. Like if this go off, anything, we inside these white folks spot, man, ain't nobody coming. Like if this go off, anything go, we gonna be locked in these cells, ain't nobody coming. But that's the same thing in the ghetto.

Ain't nobody never come and save nobody. Who saves who? What was the change for you? What was, cause you said you were in and out, what was the change? You said, yo, I gotta get this right, and I gotta change myself. Like to be realistic, man, I got tired of being in jail

with a bunch of, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to take a butt naked shower, you know what I mean? I couldn't do that. I'm going to sleep naked in the bed I couldn't do that because I'm in this I gotta sell it. I don't know if he might wake up in the middle of night. Yo, man, let me I need parts of that Like what we doing? Yeah, I'm gonna be straight up

He might wake up in the middle of the night and be like Hey my man, let's figure something out I don't know I'm just being real because listen, you know what's crazy I think one of the reasons I made it through jail so smoothly because I was always a comedian on the low You know what I'm saying? I was always funny. They was like, yeah, because I wasn't there scared to death You know how dudes come on from jail. I be trying to wonder that I did all this time in jail I'd be like what program was you on that you wasn't scared in jail that you was just so tough

Because I was scared to death soon as they listen soon as that judge gave me them numbers and they you know You had your shoe had your thing and you had your thing, you know what I mean? Say my little words back and forth. You see, it's back and forth. Word play I had with the judge, is that I'm gonna be back, walked in the joint. You know what I mean?

Now you gotta do the walk back in, because now you're going back into the cages, where everybody looking at you when you come in, what'd they give you? They gave me a little 20, man, that's enough. By the time I get to my cell late on that, I throw that tile up, crying like a baby man for a Newborn hey, it didn't once you the shackles hit you box like a animal

The shackles going from your arm to your feet you get upstate you you hit that penitentiary yard You like my mama. I know it was like this. I'm seeing people with knives longer than the giraffe trunk How old you I was I was I went to the penitentiary when I was 17 But I hit the big prison yard when I turned 18. I went to the penitentiary when I was 17, but I hit the big prison yard when I turned 18 I was in Dallas penitentiary in Pennsylvania and uh that was like that was a different type of Joe man I'm seeing people get married in the yard and all that I'm like I ain't trying to be nobody wife I ain't sign up for this Married in the yard. No people was getting married in the yard. I said damn man

Real weddings though. No, it was real weddings like it wasn't over like if you got the Bible you got somebody that's efficient You just in the yard Because I was walking in the yard, so I'm like I'm sitting in I'm like I'm trying to get married in the yard man Damn, and then I'm seeing people get stabbed and all I'm like, yo, I'm not trying to do why the so I will go to my Salon, but yeah know what the I sign up for this because nobody tell you this because Only stories that we hear back in the hood about jail is that you come home and you get rewarded and you get acknowledged and you Tough and all this other you get muscles, but I'm like I'm like damn ain't nobody talking about the scary part

So I had to be the one to tell the scary part to tell the real part because I was scared Especially listen, so I get up to the penitentiary, it's shower time. I go down there, I got my boxers on and all that, so I'm like damn we go down there and this is my first time in a real, because I went to the penitentiary when a lot of younger dudes started to go. Like you was getting certified as adult, they created new law, so a long time it wasn't no young boys in the one penitentiary. I went to Dallas penitentiaries, mostly old heads and they had the most lifers in the state of Pennsylvania at this time so you could be in a cell with anybody you could do one year being a cell with a lifer it don't matter so I go I go to go to the shower so I got my towel on my boxers on and when I went to the shower right I

go down there steamed up and anything the showers probably maybe 15 shower heads and the block got a hundred something dudes on there mm-hmm so when I go in the shower room, it was like a movie. Like everybody looked at me like, why you got them boxes on? Anybody, I'm talking about it was a, I'm talking about it was a sword showing that joint, man. You want to see what you working with? No, I'm just like, no, it's like that's not normal. Like you, and I'm like, you know what? That day I realized that a shower wasn't important than a birdbath. I said, I could go back to myself and just wash up there. Why would I need, why do a shower really mean that?

So you ain't taking a shower your whole time? You just birdbathed the whole way? No, I took it for a while till I just went down there in this hammer shorts. You had to get comfortable. Cause I was like, damn man, like why everybody gotta be naked in this joint, man? And then they looking at you and then they talking.

Like they be asking, they talking, yeah you see the game? Oh man, what's the name, went off, Emma Smith talking like they be ass nigga. They talking. Yeah, you see the game Oh, man, what's the name went off in the Smith? Hey, we ain't post like y'all supposed to be doing Did you get like like like comfortable with like your first naked shower? I got one when I got to the jail where you get your own booth. I wasn't trying to be a part of it because it's like a volunteer, like you volunteering something. How long it took to do that? Oh years. It took years. But different part of the jail got different sections where you get a single shower.

So in that jail was the one where you got the single shower locked in. But it was like, man, I always felt like that was the volunteering services. Like you was given invitations to something. So I didn't know. Alright, we got more with Wallo when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hi everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa's filling in for Jess.

And we're still kicking it with Wallo. Now, I got a question. When did you realize this is what you wanted to do? When you came home and you said you took that drive and you went back to McDonald's with the grandma's house. When did you realize this is what you wanted to do. When you came home and you said you took that drive and you went back to, you had the McDonald's with the grandma's house, when did you realize this is what you wanted to do and how you wanted to change for the next generation? I was in, shout out to the Life of G's Life Brothers, this organization, NWACP and all

that. The brothers that was in the penitentiary with me, the elders. There's an organization called Real Street Talk. So I'm in there and one of the OG's brother men, it's the Rob, shout out to him. He come to me and said, Walu, we need you to come down here and talk. It was a bunch of brothers, Shakur, Sharif, it was Ike, a big Shannon, it was a bunch of brothers that was getting together to talk to the two, three hundred inmates a week that was coming in to talk to them about, listen, why you in jail use this as your time to educate yourself so you can go back out there and make something happen with yourself. And it was called Real Street Talk.

So I was one of the dudes that spoke in a way to where as though they really understood what I was saying, because I was like one of the dudes that spoke in a way to where as though they really understood what I was saying because I was like one of the youngest dude even though the OG spoke too and I seen it They was listening they was tapped into it and it was a brother brother Rob Griffin He was from the used to do security for Malcolm X and the nation Islam back in the day He came to my cell one day He was like brother not too many brothers out here speak with though Multiple generations could listen and understand it and then like you speak clear. Mm-hmm keep doing that So when I got I just start grab this grab that phone and just start popping it cuz nobody was doing it

And I knew that I had to do it in a unique way because I was battling on the timeline was battling for attention Right, you know when you go down the time I'm looking at I said, okay I got a battle the girl his ass naked. I got a battle my man with a pound of jury on I got a battle the rapper the athlete. I said I got him That's why have you seen a lot of my videos in the beginning. I'll be running across the highway, 18 will it come laying on the ground, catch him on my head. They laughing, but I'm giving you the message. As long as you listening. Cause what everybody was afraid to tell us like, yo, you can be great. You amazing. Like we build pyramids

with no cranes. I don't know what I'm reading. Hold on. We did that. You mean to tell me we came up out of slavery. There's a little lady got us about a slavery system, got us about a slavery and that ingenuity hole, what the f*** is going on? Frederick Douglass was who? He did what? I realized this, if you can make them laugh, you can make them listen. I always love comedy because I used to listen to, I hit Paul Moody, Richard Pryor, all of my uncles who play the records, Red Fox, and I'd be laughing but they'd be saying some

deep f*** and they'd lace it up. So I'm like, okay, I just got to give it to our people in a different way because I just couldn't get the whole Harriet Tubman thing to just have me just like, okay I just gotta give it to our people in a different way because I just couldn't get the whole Harriet Tubman thing to just have me just like yo, it's nothing you can't do so I just be looking like no It's just a different way in a different language of doing it and one thing that I'm always do you'll never hear me Talk down to hate up any of our people. You know why never all of our people They might have a different message and no matter what you're doing business this that I don't care what you're doing We don't have to be doing the same thing and just because we ain't

doing the same thing even if we might be doing something that's similar we ain't got to be mad at each other I ain't got to hate you ain't got to hate me because at the end of the day is this really about the upliftment of our people if it is how can I go online and say anything bad about our people if I really care about our people right I can't tear you down to lift them up mathematically it don't work so what I do is no matter if you say something about me, say something about me, I'm never gonna say nothing about nobody.

Because that's not gonna add value to the whole plan of us. That's, Wallo really liked this too. I'm not gonna do that. Even off camera, he's like, you the generational curse breaker, Wallo. That's why I'm glad you put out a book, man. Cause I need to see you on every platform,

having these conversations. I wanna see you on the view, I wanna see you on camera. But you conversations. I want to see you on the view I want to see you on the Hall show You know what you know what's crazy though And this is why our brothers club is a major platform for our coaching will always be you get it when it's not cool You get it before it go popular you get it before it go shiny You get it and understand that a lot of these people don't get about that even though you name platforms They don't care about that. They just want some shiny s***. Now, Wild Low come out of prison.

I'm probably one of the greatest comebacks ever to come out of prison in life. But they're not gonna get that to New York Times bestseller hit all that stuff. They don't understand us and we control cool but a lot of times we don't own it. So they try to get a close proximity to our coolness. And we so much suckers we don't be understanding that. We don't even know why we're being used out here. That's why it's a lot of shit that I see online. I be like, damn, we goofy as shit, man.

Can't nobody outside of us validate us, but us. I'm never gonna let nobody tell me that you not cool, that you not cool, that you outside our culture. And I'm never gonna let nobody give a approval of what's cool and what's not outside of our culture of this blackness. I love being black. I'm a die black. My family is black I look at us and I say we some extraordinary people and it's not taking that enough from any other group of people But everybody else love themselves. I'm a love me in it in you know, and I got some extraordinary people

That's not black this family has been but at the end of the day until we start loving us on all levels We gonna be left behind. What do you think about when when Michael Rubin was up here and said pretty much the same thing that you just said right now? He said our community hurts ourself that's what he's saying. Let me say this though. Let me say this though Everything is about the message it cuz I can't speak on behalf of you know different races I can't do that because they're gonna be like what the f**k is you? I don't know. So that's normal but one thing that I can say is that everybody is speculating everybody's around on that day that Meek was in that courtroom I was in that courtroom to come speak for Meek. Michael Rubin was in that courtroom and when we took that break after the you know the judge was

roughing Meek up I'm telling what she was like she was roughing Meek up we went outside to the hallway and Mike looked at us and said what's going on in here? Like this guy was really shocked I'm like this being black in America. He was like what the fuck? I'm telling he was personally pissed cuz he didn't understand and to be going cuz a lot of people just don't know he said He didn't realize it was two Americans until like he doesn't that day He looked at and then he attempted to walk back in the courtroom after we had the conversation and she slapped him around He like what the like he stood up and spoke with him, stood up, and she was like, yeah, all right, writing in the paper.

Like, he went and done something. I respect Mike for that. You know, people wanna have their opinions on people, but I'm talking about when I see a good person, I see a good person, I salute a good person. That's it, I ain't with all that other. Because I'm gonna tell you something, man. To be real with you, I got a lot of people that's not black

that help the out of me. Cause they really, people that really believe that, and I ain't talking about business, I'm talking about their life. People that love you, love you. It's not always going to be a color thing. And I know we fight so much to get us together, but at the end of the day while you spend your time on this planet, you better love who love you and you better figure out who

love you and who got your back. Because I'm going to tell you something, I don't know what everybody else is doing out here, but I'm 45 and I'm saying to myself hopefully I get another 45 out here cuz my grandma 90 so I'm measuring about it my uncle James rest in peace and he died he was 93 or 94 but we got it we got a nice lymph in our joint pause pause oh was that a pause can I gotta run it by cam cuz I'm talking about a lift of years I'm not saying but oh yeah I'm gonna say this I'm gonna say this though I'm looking at like I'm 45 now there's a big chance I'm getting out

of this joint one day I can't worry about I'm gonna be going I gotta go I gotta go and when I go my whole thing I want to be able to say I left that shit on the planet That's why that's why I live the life that I live I do me if I want to buy something I'm gonna buy it If I want to go somewhere I'm gonna go somewhere I'm not living my life based off of some fear shit because guess what you know how many motherfuckers in the graveyard Sitting there mad as shit like damn I should have got dizzy damn I should have went here damn I should have done this we don't do enough. We don't live enough We don't we don't put more positive energy out enough because I'm saying to myself damn I got I got a lot

of shit to make up on because I know what you know when I see you out I don't want to be like that and I tell you cuz guys get funky for people you know I mean I don't want to be the one like you had plenty of time you know where you got to go at the end of the day I just try to put the best energy possible out there to our people to let them know listen man we ain't got time we ain't gonna be here forever love each other do what you got to do and keep it moving but one day you got to get the body all right we got more with Wallo when we people to let them know, listen man, we ain't got time. We ain't gonna be here forever. Love each other, do what you gotta do, and keep it moving. But one day you gotta get the body.

All right, we got more with Wallo when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Good morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa's filling in for Jess. We still kicking it with Wallo, his book, Arm With Good Intentions is out right now. Charlamagne?

One thing I wanted you to talk about before we leave, you said the feeling of not being punished for doing something you knew was wrong was equivalent to your first orgasm. How long did it take for you to actually feel guilt when you did something wrong? Man, it took me a while. Because you're young and you just don't know. So it take you a while and then when it hit you just be like, damn, there's some crazy s***. But it was a while, it was just a thursday. I don't know I think I was just part of stealing an American dream I was doing my thing because I wanted to be you understand I'm looking at these movies man

I'm looking at Ray Leone and my fellas Hey, you know the part where he burning the cars up he throwing a joint He said by the time I was 14 I was making more money than a than the grown-ups around my neighborhood. I'm like damn. I wanted to be that I wanted some money Because we won't be happy. I always tell people this when that guy in the 80s pull up with that Benz, and you know what I'm talking about, he got the Benz in the 80s, he got that gold chain on, he got that Fila sweatsuit on with the Fila's,

he got them rings on, the nugget rings and all that shit, and he pull up to a neighbor, he's pulling up to our black communities to deal with the most beautifulest girl in our neighborhood. And when he pull up to get her, as he opening the car door and she getting in the car door, you know who's speaking to him? Miss Johnson, Miss Brown, Miss Green, They all, hey baby! But at the same

time you see Mr. John come back from work, he's a plumber or dirty and nobody's speaking to him. I'm sitting on the step watching all this take place. So I said damn, I got to be a part of this. In the black community, the women dictate who the man wants to grow up to be based off of who they date. So I'm looking at it like I'm only seeing these girls, they dealers and dudes that got nice cars. I got to get me some nice cars to get me some ass. I got to get some I got to get some jury I got to get some I got to get fly.

That's what it was about. And the way you started to get fly. That's the only people I've seen and respected. They only respected the criminals in the game. Money and violence. Listen, do you go ask any judges, lawyers, prosecutors and all that. What's your favorite movies? Godfather's.

What's your favorite series? The Sopranos. Everything gonna be they love the successful criminals so I grew lawyers, prosecutors and all that. What's your favorite movies? Godfathers. What's your favorite series? The Sopranos. Everything gonna be, they love the successful criminals so I grew up to try to be that. But as I grew old I took responsibility to say, oh yeah I'm on some ****. I did wrong. You never heard me say it was, no I wasn't in jail for some **** that magically did because of the white man. I was in jail because I wanted to get busy.

And I did what I did. To your point about women shaping everything, you talk a lot about black women and Latino women and how you staff your team with women. Can you talk why that's important and how that's helped you along your journey as you build your brand? Shout out to my manager, business partner Desiree Ivy. Shout out to Amaril.

Shout out to Shayam Lawson, my attorney. These women, let me explain something to you about these women. They get shit done. That's right. They not playing games. At all. I don't know what it is about them going get them going crazy. They lose a mind about no

I'd be like damn what happened somebody told me no to death what what's going on? Don't worry about it my business I get to the bottom. I'll tell you when I get it done They move different and you know, what's you know, what's going on? I just want to say this a lot of these companies in America They'd be playing games and a lot of times people don't see him because they'd be in the shadows But when it comes to our culture, black women run the s***. Absolutely. I'm talking about from not just from the consumer side, not just from the marketing side, but

from the boardrooms. The sisters. I went to the boardroom of Rich Klamath Company with sisters running that s***. Sisters running s*** everywhere. That's right. Like, I don't think you're going to get something off if you ain't got no sisters in that FO. Every single entity I got a black woman running it. Shout out to all the- Dolly. Do she's no joke Nicole shout out to all the sisters

out there that's doing it going up against all the bulls all the racism in these companies y'all y'all going to HR HR is playing games with Charlie they they trying to weed y'all out because soon as a sister get up and she stand up for herself oh she's being a great everybody play victim soon as this is speak up for herself these people being these corporations throwing all these rocks and soon as this is to say I'm not going for that oh my god she's being aggressive oh my god I'm scared lock the door get that desk hat mm-hmm cuz the sister stepped up for itself one

thing about a black woman I don't care who she's not dealing with no boy you think we scared up that's right but I just want to shout out to everybody I'll do this doing anything and I need to say this to you I don't care if you got a what I stand you got a t-shirt company. You got a putting the tape out music You don't art you won. Yes away from your world changing Stop looking on Instagram and thinking everybody's beating you and you run a lane you ain't enough and I want to say something to Sisters out there you are enough. They'll never let nobody finesse You don't tell you that you got to be this and you got to have this you got to wear this you got to

Go here you got to take live your life Do you in every way possible and to them young brothers, and you gotta wear this, you gotta go here, you gotta take, live your fucking life, do you, in every way possible. And to them young brothers out there, y'all kings, y'all ain't slaves. What y'all gotta do is, y'all gotta understand, y'all the most fearless group of young men ever on the history of life. This generation right now,

is the most fearless black men ever. Y'all do not give a fuck. Just imagine if y'all switched that up. Imagine what you could do when you go, when you say, you know what? I don't wanna be a drug dealer. I want to be a businessman. I don't want to be a killer I want to be a healer. I want to be a giver I'm saying it could change and up to my young brothers in a rap community Stay away from them drugs man and this coming from a man that never did a drug a day in his life

I never did it because I had to watch my homies I had to make sure they get home at night and my homies smoke You know they they didn't smoke PCP, did all that type of shit. You know, snorted a little coke, you know, did a little bit of, but I always watched it. I said, that ain't for me. And I don't know who told you this.

If you feel as though you're going through somebody, find somebody to talk to, get a therapist. Go to therapy, man. Get a therapist. Stop trying to self-medicate yourself because you don't know what you're doing. And I'm gonna tell you something, brothers. When you hit a town, you young brothers,

and I'm gonna be real with you, everybody is trying their way to get some drugs to you and you don't know if anybody drugs is drugs I'm just being straight up I don't know you know me I'm just saying you got all these people making fake this fake this you don't know what you're taking and when you get that money young brothers stay out of don't stay off them handcuffs man please please man don't disrespect your blessing cuz God ain't gonna keep blessing you man you think listen God gotta work with billions of people you

think God would just keep coming around blessing you God ain't gonna keep blessing you, man. Listen, God gotta work with billions of people. You think God could just keep coming around blessing you? God ain't gonna keep blessing you. Take advantage of these blessings, keep doing your thing, and just know anytime you see Uncle Stotty, I'm gonna say something to you. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. And a lot of y'all know I reach out, I DM y'all, I talk to y'all regularly.

Man, just notice you kings, notice you queens, and know that the world is waiting for all of us. Listen, Arm with Good Intentions is out now, man. Everybody go pick this book up from Wallo. We gotta make this a New York Times bestseller. You see it. Today, tonight, we gonna be at Uncle Bobby's in Philadelphia, me and my man Wallo

having more conversations about this. You gonna be at Uncle Bobby's? Yes, about this book, Armed With Good Intentions, man. Make sure we get you stopped. You're in my man's spot. Make sure to give him cheese sticks. You like them taste cheese sticks. I had some joints up there when I was there like you was you was hungry to the way you made

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Wallo, ladies and gentlemen. If you like to dye his eyebrows and all that, get him a sponsor. Wallo, ladies and gentlemen, goodbye, Wallo. All we good intentions is out right now. Pick it up. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. I'm a donkey. I never heard of donkey the other day. What is it? Say it again, Charlamagne. Yes, you are a donkey. Everything that Charlamagne is saying is true. Yes, donkey today goes to Reginald Reynolds and Mia Bagginstoss. I'm sure I pronounced that name wrong, but we got to get to the bottom of this.

I'm a donkey. I never heard of donkey the other day. What is it? Say it again, Charlamagne. Yes, you are a donkey. Everything that Charlamagne is saying is true. Yes, donkey today goes to Reginald Reynolds and Mia Baggins-Dose.

I'm sure I pronounced that name wrong, but we can call her Mia Baggins-Dose. They are 35 and 37 years old, respectfully. They are from Portland, Oregon. And I don't know why when I saw this story today, I thought to myself either I'm experiencing deja vu or I've done this story before, but I figured out the issue.

The issue is there's this bag that people buy in the bag says things about drugs on it this particular in this particular case Reginald and Mia had a bag that said Definitely not a bag full of drugs That's what it said on the bag definitely not a bag full of drugs now if I was a police officer Or any type of law enforcement and there was a bag in your car that said definitely not a bag full of drugs Guess what bag I'm going probably search first now granted I wouldn't actually believe someone is stupid enough to have a bag full of drugs in a bag labeled bag full of drugs but this is this is earth okay 2024 whatever level of stupidity your brain can conceive there is a donkey on this

planet who can achieve let's go to ABC 10 for the report please tonight we're looking into a story that seems hard to believe. It claims a couple was arrested after officers found drugs in a bag that had definitely not a bag full of drugs printed on it. And folks this one is true. The Portland Police Bureau in Oregon, look at this, posted this picture on social media. They say they discovered the bag along with cash, a gun, and scales during a traffic stop Tuesday inside the bag. You guessed it, they found more than 10 grams of fentanyl and meth.

Yeah, the couple was booked on drug charges along with unauthorized use of a vehicle and possession of a stolen vehicle. See, some of these donkeys be layered. Why would you be riding dirty in a stolen car? Can you please commit to one crime at a time? Do you simultaneously have to be committing multiple felony offenses? And if you're gonna be in a stolen car where the Ford Taurus's ignition has been visibly tampered with, why would you have baggies of drugs just visible in a stolen car? Not to mention you got this big brown canvas bag labeled definitely not a bag full of drugs. And in that bag, and in that bag

with 79 blue fentanyl pills, three fake... What? Like your mouth water just now. You heard it? No, I said, like that's crazy for you to have. What the hell you doing in Delaware? Three fake oxycodone tablets and 230 grams of meth. Not to mention a loaded 38.

I know I wrote a book called getting honest to die lying But damn okay, retinal and Mia, you know They probably was telling the officers like look officer. We're just practicing radical honesty, you know Transparency and crime is a new movement and that officer was like thank you for making my job easier by the way this transparency and crime Movement still comes with 15 years to life now. I know what some of you might be thinking. Is Oregon, aren't drugs legal in Oregon? Well, in 2020 Oregon decriminalized the possession of small amounts of hard drugs in an effort to redirect city funding from criminalization and toward treatment of substance use disorders.

The measure passed with high levels of public support that faltered as overdose and homelessness rates rose in the state during the COVID-19 pandemic when Rihanna makeup became widely available but in September the state recriminalized drug possession so the moral of the story is all of this was illegal okay there's absolutely no right way to do the wrong thing even in Oregon and everything Reginald and Mia did was completely wrong okay Reginald and Mia might be the first criminals in the history of crime who actually labeled the evidence for the police, and I know they thought labeling it

not a bag full of drugs would throw people off. Like there is no way folks would think they were that dumb, but it's not about what we think. It's about what you know about yourself Reginald and Mia. Okay? You had to know that you are indeed that dumb. Please give Reginald Reynolds and Mia Baggins those sweet sounds in the hamiltones. That is ridiculous. I have no question. That's like Lauren wearing a t-shirt that says definitely not single. What'd you say? Or like you wearing a t-shirt saying definitely healed because... It's the journey.

Oh, is it? It's the process. Yeah, so is mine. Okay, girls. Okay, girls. What is your question, Lauren? I've been feeling like with Nini and Portia, and guess who's Nini? I'd love to be Portia.

Drop one of the clues behind for Portia. You just helped him out. You thank you very much. You just helped him out. That is absolutely my favorite hot question. Portia's my girl, but everybody knows that the real cat, like the comebacks, is Nini. With Portia, I love Portia. It's the house that Nini Leakes built. But anyway, my question before I was rudely interrupted. Yes, ma'am

Is this not entrapment though? Because why would you be allowed to sell a bag that says definitely not drugs knowing that someone might put drugs in it because they Think it's like funny or something because there's this thing called satire And so whoever made that bag was just making it probably just to be funny and they knew that you know people would walk around with the bug is just like up the bag is like a fashion statement but they didn't think they'd actually put drugs inside of it. You got a Birkin what does it say on your Birkin? Fake? Yes you fake like this Birkin.

Shout out to signing Saturdays you fake like this Birkin. I hate this place. That was shade. It wasn't shade. That was a whole tree. Who? You over there planting today baby. Feet in the soil.

I'm right you're right. I hate this place. I just that was shade. It was that was a whole tree. Oh you over there playing today New Bob and I got so I'm ready the breakfast club Morning everybody is DJ envy Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. My guy. He's an author, New York Times bestselling author. He's an entrepreneur, he is a podcast host, and now he is a model as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Shetty. A model.

A model. By the way, Jay Shetty's more than a podcast host. He has one of the top 10 biggest podcasts in the world. That's right. Okay, I think that's very important to note, because everybody got a podcast. Okay, Jay said he has one of the top ten biggest podcasts in the world. That's right. Okay, I think that's very important to note cuz everybody got a podcast Okay, Jay said he has one of the top ten biggest podcasts in the world. What is it number five? I think I think so that's on Spotify. I think that's what it came out as but no, thank you for having me guys I love being here with you guys. I'm so grateful to be back with you. Congrats on the new studio

Thank you. I know it's not new for you for your viewers, but it's new for me being in here with you Thank you. Thank you guys. You just sat down with First Lady Michelle Obama. Conversation was everywhere, right? And she expressed how terrified she was about this election year. What was it like hearing that from her? And how do you process that? Does that give you anxiety when you hear that? Yeah, it's an interesting thought process,

because I can't vote in this country. I moved here eight years ago. I have a green card, but I don't, you know, I don't have voting rights. And I moved here the year Trump became president in 2016. And so I've had an interesting education in the United States and I haven't, you know, I didn't grow up learning American history or American politics. So I'm also very uneducated in this, in that space specifically. I think for me, I look at most things as things I can and can't control.

And when I think about things that make me anxious on a global scale, I often ask myself, what is the root of that anxiety in my community so if I'm seeing whether it's ignorance whether it's a lack of understanding whether it's a lack of curiosity openness compassion on a global scale I'm asking myself where does that exist within me and my friends and my society and how do I start impacting that because that I can control and so I've been practicing that for a long time because I feel that There's a lot of things that give me anxiety like there's a lot of things that can stress me out

There's something new in the news every day that can do that. So to me I try and Bring down global events into the personal and intimate because otherwise it's so chaotic and so hard to deal with How many times do you how often have you broken your own eight rules of love? Oh every day, every day man, every day. I don't think it's, you know it goes back to that how can I heal someone I'm still healing myself and it goes to the reality of and I think we all know this at this table everything in life is a process right like even if you took something really tangible like we say this person is rich we talk about them as if they can never lose it and that

will always be theirs that's actually not true people could lose all their money we talk about someone being famous you could lose that so in the same way healing progress development you can lose it and I think we've got so lost in that destination addiction, the belief that you get to a point from which there is no return. And I think that destination addiction is really misleading in the wellness space because we feel like, oh, now I'm healed. And I think it comes from this idea of, if you think about it, right,

social media is full of before and after pictures. This is where I used to be, look at where I am now, right? And it's always like saying, I used to be in a bad place, now I'm in a great place. No process, though. No process and linear when the real life, life is this every day. That's right. It's just cyclical and I think we've made our minds feel that journey is linear. It's like A to B, like going from LA to New York or New York to LA, It's linear. But we know that life is so much more cyclical and so yes I have

broken the eight rules of love every day, every week of my life. One of the things you said man that I think is so important that I want people to really get from this if they don't get nothing else from this conversation is like there's no manual for any of this. You're not gonna be the perfect husband. You're not gonna be the perfect father. You're not gonna be the perfect father. I spend so much time simply apologizing to my wife and apologizing to my kids because I don't ever want them to think

that I'm trying to come off as some perfect human who never gets anything wrong, right? And I think that is, that's very important to do and just being present. Like when your wife calls you, your child calls you, even if you in that moment, you weren't present, I'm picking, as soon as I'm done with whatever I'm doing, I'm so sorry that I had to do that,

but I had to go do X, Y, and Z in that moment. Yeah, absolutely. And I think the thing about the point you just made, and I hope this is what someone takes away from this as well is, I think a lot of us in our minds, when we do introspect, we're quite heavy and harsh on ourselves. I think a lot of us in our minds when we do introspect, we're quite heavy and harsh on ourselves. I think a lot of people are walking around with an

internal inner critical voice that is completely making them feel terrible. And so when anyone says something externally, it's worse. And I just want to remind people that you can't hate yourself into change. Like you can't guilt yourself into growth. You can't blame yourself into a breakthrough. When was the last time you changed who you were because someone hated you? Never. When was the last time you supported someone you hate deeply? So if you're hating, blaming, guilting yourself, it may get you started but it won't get you there and so anyone who's giving themselves a hard time, I'm not saying to give yourself an easy time

but that inner grace, that inner forgiveness is such an important part of you actually becoming better so you're not doing it because you're trying to take it easy on yourself you're doing it because it's going to let you get through the hard times. The most important thing I think for a lot of people is back to what you said with forgiveness and grace right? A lot of things that we do is learn behavior right? Why do people pop their children? Usually because they got popped as a child you know? A lot of those things that we learned and we were taught were f**ked up. Yeah there's that famous quote you just reminded me of that says, by the time you realize that your parents are right your

kids are telling you that you're wrong. And it's that awkward position that we end up in. But you know what's really interesting about that? I was talking to someone about this at dinner last night, and there's this old story that I heard a while ago, and it's always resonated with me, even with my own childhood, not in particular, but in essence. So the story goes that these two men were interviewed and one was an alcoholic and the other one had never drunk alcohol

and they were brothers. And they interviewed them and then they asked the one who drank alcohol and was an alcoholic, he said, why are you an alcoholic? He said, my dad was an alcoholic. And then they asked the other brother, why don't you drink? And he said, my dad was an alcoholic. And so I think a lot of us got an education in what not to do,

but we ended up repeating it instead of breaking the cycle. And I feel like in my life, I got a great education in a lot of my areas of life in what not to do and who not to be. And I took all those little notes down and I think that's what's improved my life. So I think if we're constantly waiting for the perfect example and the perfect space and the perfect surroundings and the perfect aunt and uncle and the perfect parents like We may be waiting forever because no one's perfect So we almost have to make a list of what not to do but what not to do but also how to that's why Yeah, that's why podcasts like on purpose is so important

That's why podcast like, you know, Debbie Brown deeply well is so important because we learn how to yeah you know break break a lot of these cycles absolutely all right we got more with Jay Shetty when we come back keep it locked it's the Breakfast Club good morning morning everybody is DJ Envy Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club we're still kicking it with Jay Shetty Charlamagne are you wearing gap right now Gap right now? No, not right now. Okay, I'm just asking. No, because you saw that. You saw that. Yeah, I saw the Gap campaign. That's why I called you a model earlier. You did the Gap campaign. That's why.

That's why. I thought you were not playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, you thought he just thought you was handsome? That was a laugh. Yeah, that's why. No, I was like, all right, DJ MB, you know. I was like, all right.

There's, you know, I wasn't expecting that from you. But thank you, man. I appreciate it. You and your wife did a holiday Gap campaign. Yeah, yeah. We were just, you know, when we got asked to do that, it was like, we couldn't believe it. We're like, what is this, you know?

Like, we grew up watching the GAP campaigns, like the holiday campaigns, especially. And any, I've said to my wife, any time I get to do any work with her is my favorite thing because I get to hang with her all day. And so that shoot was fun. They made it fun. The creative team was fantastic. Like, it was a good time. We walked out of there having had a great day. So yeah, was fun they made it fun the creative team was fantastic like it was a good time we walked out of there having had having had a great day so yeah it was a lot of fun and then it was it was surreal

because you know yeah definitely never been a model so I wanted to ask you to do you get pushback from people who watch you sit down with a Michelle Obama or a Jada Pinkett Smith man why didn't you challenge them on this why didn't you challenge them on that yeah I didn't you challenge them on that? Yeah, I don't get pushback for not challenging people because I think the questions I ask are challenging in a different way. But I think I'll get pushback because someone doesn't like that person. Yeah.

But what I've found every single time is that when someone actually listens to the episode or watches it on YouTube, if you look at that comment section, it is spectacular. Like when someone's actually taking out time out of the day to listen for an hour or watch for an hour and then you see the comment section, you'll see people having complete... I had people reaching out about both those episodes, the President Biden interview as well that we did earlier last year and the comments of people who actually listened to it

and by the way a lot of people were like, hey, I don't agree with this person's politics I'm actually on completely on the other side but I just want you to know that listening to this interview was so enlightening from a human perspective, thank you for putting it out there and I respect that approach because I think that's why I do the interview I don't do the interview for any other reason apart from us looking at the broken mirror and looking back and saying, okay, where can I resonate with the humanity of this individual or where can I relate to this person? So yeah, I think that's generally the pushback.

But the comment section, I encourage you on those episodes to go look at the YouTube comment section. It's phenomenal to read what people are getting. Yeah, because I think your conversation with Jada Pinkett Smith, the clips is what set off the Jada Pinkett hatred. Not because of you, you know what I mean? But if you didn't watch the whole conversation and context and you just saw clips, she got attacked. Yeah, and Jada is a dear friend for me, so

it's, yeah, it's a tough one because I think any clip about anyone I said, someone said this to me yesterday they said to me, Jay, they'd met me for the first time and they were like Jay, you're so much nicer in person I didn't like you off of your Instagram. And I was like, fair enough, that's cool, but it's so hard for me to be all of myself in

30-seconds, and I'm trying my best you're trying your best you're trying your best But it's hard for any of us like they're not to like about you on this. Yeah, you know what your wife Puppies looking your face No in the sense of I think he was just like you know I feel like you feel a bit like whatever it was, like whatever it is, I don't even know what it was, but I think all of us, if you judged any of us off a 30 second reel, Oh, yeah, of course. I'm sure all of us would agree it's not who we are, you know, so,

and that's why I do stuff with my wife, because I feel I'm most myself when I'm with my wife, because naturally it's the person I spend the most time with. And so, but even with even with all of us, like I've got to meet you guys in person a few times. Now, we were in Cannes with I Heart on you know for the festival last year together and I think when you've met people in person that's the only time you're gonna feel like you've got to know them I don't think anyone under I feel like if someone if someone okay if someone follows me on Instagram they understand maybe 10% of who I am if they listen to my podcast

they probably understand 75% of who I am because they're really dialing into who I am. If they've read my books and my podcast they probably like at that 89%. If they've seen me live they're at that 95%. And then when someone's met me in person it's 100%. And so I think it's all percentages and I you know I hope that we all again going back to forgiveness and grace I hope that we can all give each other a bit more benefit of the doubt because I think it would go a long way for people. You say language has created the word loneliness

to express the pain of being alone and it has created the word solitude to express the glory of being alone. Could you expound on that? Yeah, it's a Paul Tillich quote, the writer Paul Tillich shared that and to me, I extrapolated from his work, from my book because I was realizing that language and the way we use words completely defines how we think about things. So when you hear the word loneliness, you think sadness,

you think potentially depression, you think negativity. Of course. Solitude is spending time alone with yourself but with strength, with courage, as Paul Tillich says, glory. So what I've realized is we've got to be so careful with the language we use in our minds. Every single word is a seed for either a weed or a flower. That's right.

And so every single word that you say is defining. So if I keep saying I'm lonely, I'm lonely, I'm lonely. That's going to impact how I feel. but if I say I'm in solitude all of a sudden there's a strength that comes with that and so I just want to encourage people to recognize that being alone doesn't have to be a weakness, it can be a time of strength and self-awareness and personal growth but it is about the language that we use with ourselves and so I would ask everyone to this one activity, think about the one word that comes to your mind the moment

you wake up or the moment you go to sleep make that word a word that you want it to be don't let the word you go to sleep with and don't let the word you wake up with be a word that makes you feel negative unhealthy or weak because those studies show we have 60 to 80 thousand thoughts per day and 80% of them are negative and 80% of them are repetitive which means you're having the same negative word or thought repeating it's not like we're having lots of different thoughts it's the same thought now you can't control 60 to 80 thousand thoughts we can control two thoughts of the day so just master the

first thought of the day and the last thought of the day and make it a thought and a word that you want it to be. I wonder when that study was done, I wonder was it before social media or after? Because I feel like social media has probably tripled at that. Yeah, I probably read it that, that's probably I read in the last three to four years. So I guess while social media is around, but yeah, I mean, now it could have totally tripled. But it's interesting because it's the same thought often. Yeah.

Right? It's a lot of time we keep saying the same thing. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. That thought could life last a year or like, oh God, I keep saying the same thing. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. That thought could last a year. Or like, oh god, I'm so scared at work. I'm so anxious. That could last a year. One more thing. Yeah, man. Is there anything Jay Shetty hates? Ooh. The answer is I don't. Because I think hate personally, collectively, individually doesn't lead to greatness.

What about the notebook? I don't hate the notebook but I have thoughts about the notebook Charlemagne. I don't hate the notebook. I find it hilarious as to how many and I was like I said I'm a hopeless romantic. I've been like that my whole life because I grew up watching Hollywood movies thinking that that's how I was meant to fall in love. I was that dumb person who fell for that. And now I've read about something that they call Disney Princess Syndrome, where people walk around feeling like they're going to be saved by their partner. Like you're going to have a knight in shining armor who's going to come in and rescue you. I think there's Disney Prince Syndrome as well. Well, we want to go and save someone and we want to be the be-all and end-all of everything. So the notebook just has some really questionable lines. So yeah I don't hate the notebook. Well Jay Shetty ladies and gentlemen. Where can they follow you Jay?

Tell them. Come and check out the podcast On Purpose. It's where I'm pouring my heart and soul and you know excited to share so many more amazing maybe thought-provoking maybe even pushing you slightly conversations to come and join us at On Purpose. And his latest book was Eight Rules of Love that came out last year. How to find it, keep it and let it go. You got a new book coming? No, no, no. I was just excited to be back with you and hanging. And actually, do you know what? Sometimes I love these conversations because

I came here not knowing where it was going to go. And then you guys just guided beautifully. So this was wonderful. Thank you so much. Thank you guys. Jay Shetty, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club Morning everybody, it's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Shalamina, Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. But leave us with a positive note. The positive note is this,

majority is when you know the other person is lying, but you just smile and let it go. Breakfast Club, bitches! You want to finish or y'all done?