The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF - The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

Best of 2025- It’s all about family - The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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podcast. Woke up. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeartRadio. Good morning, USA. Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! Oh, my goodness. Now, if your girlfriend turn around, that's crazy. No, my goodness.

If your girlfriend hears that right now, she started looking around. Ain't nobody calling her. I was mimicking Santa Claus. Oh, my goodness. Well, today's show is all about family. Hopefully you're enjoying family today. Some of our favorite family, episodes like when Rome stopped through, and, you know, Rome is Jess' baby daddy. Yes, and you know, Jess has a book coming out called Tell Death Do We Parent. That's right. Yeah, it'll be out on my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing Simon & Schuster,

and it's literally about her time co-parenting with Rome. I mean, they're still co-parenting now, but you know how they got through it because they had a young Ashton when they were young. That's right. And also, my wife would be stopping through Gia, of course, Gia Casey. We have a book called Real Life, Real Family Out right now. we talk about raising our kids. So it's going to be best to move to the Casey crew.

I thought about the Casey crew when we was at Ms. Patty LaBellehouse because I was making the waffles and I was like they're not ready until they're the complexion of the Casey crew. Yes, he actually said that out loud, like it wasn't under his breath. Like he really said, is it the complexion of the Casey crew? Yes, it is. And everybody understood exactly what I meant. They was like, yeah, that's right.

That's how they're supposed to look. Oh, my goodness. Merry Christmas. Let's get into those interviews in a little bit so don't go anywhere. It's the breakfast club for morning. It's a new day. Get it off your chest. Wait, wake up!

Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning. It's Hudson.

Hudson, what's up? Get it off your chest, brother. I just want to know when, like, at 950, when y'all wrapping up the show, the administration doesn't come down and be like, yo, that was gay. But tomorrow, I need y'all to be just a little gay. First of all, I don't know.

Who does imaginary, I don't know who this imaginary administration is, y'all think, you know, has his hand on this show. But, no, that doesn't happen, sir. We made. All right. Let's be honest, though. Who starts the show was like last night when I went to Dix? Like, that's- But I'll talk about Dick's sporting goods.

That was ridiculous. Yeah. That's a little crazy. It was a little A-O. It was a little A-O. You know what I wanted to know, too, Hudson? Why would they name the store Dicks, though? Because there's people named Dick.

Sporting Authority, Sporting Goods. Richard. She came down and told them. We needed a little gear. Man, shut up. Everything isn't gay, guys. Now you got me Googling why is Dick Sporting Good called Dick Sporting Good. Thank you, I.

Have a good one, man. Good, have a good morning. Dick Sporting Goods is named after its founder, Richard Dick Stack. That's his name, man. All right. We'll salute to Richard. All right. Hello, who's this?

Yo, it's Todd from Brooklyn. Todd from Brooklyn. What's up? Yo, what's up? Good morning, Jess. Good morning, Shal of him. Good morning. Pete King.

Yo, yo, Y, Evvy. I'm going to go on a good. they tell it was one day I was up here joking, pulls in every little single thing. Like y'all know how you do. And then you say, get it off your chest. I'm like, nah, that's a big four. I go make all of those,

towards everything, and they're not pulled. Get it off your chest. You need to take it off your mind. I literally said that, yo. I'm with you. I said that as soon as I started working. I said, stay up there telling you. Y'all are big fools, every.

Why are y'all thinking about men? When I think of get it off your chest, I'm thinking women, what's on your mind? I know. I just can't stop thinking about it now because y'all, y'all was doing all them jokes y'all them poor jokes and then right after

you're going to say, all right, get it off your test. I'm like, hey, yo, bulls. And, and, and who are you getting, giving that donkey to? I got to give it to envy. You know what he'd be doing? No, no, no, I'm saying. Donkey of the day goes to everything.

Pause, pause, pause, pause. You said I'm giving it to envy. I'm saying it's gay. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Camico from West Checker. Hey, Tamika. Get it off your chest, Mama.

Okay, good morning. Be dead and V. Shalman. I'm a fan. Good morning. I just wanted to get off my chest the fact that I did nothing. And now I'm a broken up with a boyfriend that I've been with for three years because his girlfriend, his side girlfriend thinks that I'm her stalker.

Wait a minute. His side girlfriend. They're his stalker? Mm-hmm. All right. Explain this to me a little bit more now. Okay. Okay. So I've been with this boy for like almost three years.

Okay. And when I came out of my relationship, he came out of his relationship for a long time. And he still wanted to explore and all that, and we didn't know what we was. So he told me like, oh, I'm talking to this one. I'm talking to that one. So it's like, okay, whatever. But Tom had passed, and he started moving his stuff into my apartment. and we started establishing things.

I work for the city. I put him on my insurance. We started establishing and making plans. I didn't realize how strong of a connection he was making with other girls, but then he comes to me one day and tells me that the other girl. Okay, okay, I've heard enough.

So you're not his only girl? No. I'm not his only girl, no. Okay, so what are you calling here to ask us? Well, she's upset because she put him on insurance. She thought it was serious. He was serious. I wasn't asking anything.

Oh, you just, you just mad at him. yourself for being stupid hey yes how old are you 34 34 years old how many girls does this man got who knows how many yeast infections have you have oh since y'all been dating i know your pH balance is always oh stop it come on no it's not oh okay i understand though because you you put him on insurance he moved in you thought it was more serious than it was and he was still playing the field well see see i want to tell you that you know you can do better that's That's not the part that I'm mad at. The part that I'm mad at is that I have nothing to do with his other relationships,

and I'm being accused of being a random girl stalker. I don't even know this girl. Why would you even care? You shouldn't even care. Why would I even care? This is what I'm saying. You ever been accused of something you absolutely did not do? Yes.

And just super fucking frustrated, but then it's also super relief because it's like, you never trust me in the beginning. But it's just super fucking frustrated. We'll stop cursing. I understand you're upset, but stop cursing. But understand that the truth don't need no defense, it only needs witnesses. So as long as you know the truth, that's the most important thing. But the truth is, you just wanted this man's holes.

Now, you need to ask yourself, do you just want to be one of this man's holes? Or do you want to be more to somebody? Because if you want to be more to somebody, then you need to go find that somebody because it's not going to be with him. Yeah. I'm sorry you went through that, Mama. But take him off the insurance, ASAP. She's still going to it.

No, take them off the insurance, ASAP. ain't going to do nothing. Is he still on the insurance? Yeah. Who that's talking to you in the background? Nobody. That's y'all on the radio. Oh, yeah, man. You're just another one of his holes, man, and I think that you deserve better than that. But, you know,

he did keep it 100 with you from the beginning. It's not like he lied to you. Yeah, he didn't lie, and y'all didn't have a conversation. You just assumed because he moved in, but that was not a great assumption, obviously. And I know it's hard. I know it's hard. I know it's hard. Three, four years of raw sex. Three. You know what I'm saying? Him blowing in your

boonkey. I know it got you got you a little open, man. but, you know, you deserve better. Thanks. I'm sorry, Mama. Have a great day. Have a good day. Damn, man. She should take them off insurance right now.

You're not. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-105-1. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest.

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Yo. What's up, Airy? What's up, Traff? Hey, Boo. What's up, baby? What's so, Sharr? P, sis, what's the word? Hey, ain't nothing, ain't nothing, chilling, chilling.

I just want to shout out two things. Number one, shout out to the Dallas Cowboys. Make sure y'all tune in. Watch us get that work put in. Nah, me. Talk to him, sorry. I don't like how you said that. You said, watch us get that work.

Pause. That means, we're going to lose, bro. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Watchers put in that work. Yeah, but you ain't say that. You said, watch us get that work. You bottomed us out. Bro, you turn this into a bottom instead of the top, bro.

Don't do that. You're right. You're right. Number two, I got to talk about my man Cole. Y'all had somebody come on Marco Plus, I think his name is. Shout out to him. I mean, a dream villain like myself. But, Charlemagne, I was going to tell you that, you know,

nobody you name is touching Jay Cole. I don't care if it's big crick. I don't care if it's Farr's face. I don't say, nothing to do with your ridiculous. hip-hop takes, okay? You cannot ever see. Hold on, hold on, both. Cole is not the king of the South in no way, shape, of form. Yes, he is. He's rap better than anybody you can name. That's not true. His cadence is, his flows, his delivery, his name one person.

Jay Cole don't rap better than Scarface? Jay Coe don't rap better than T.I. Lysically. He can't rock better than T. Yes, he do. I'm sorry. When I come to lyricism? Lyracism.

Scarface and T. Yes. Oh, T.I. First of all, like, can none of them see Jay Cole when it comes to cadences, delivery, slow, lyrics, no matter what it is, stuff all of that. I'm not even arguing. I'm not arguing.

It's silly. I'm not having this debate. All right. We can fight. Bye. You wasn't even outside. Like, you wasn't even outside when Jake, when T.I. and Wayne and Scarface was killing things.

Travis said, we could fight. Right. Hello, who's this? Yeah, it's Comanche. What's good, man? What's up, Shrem? What's up? What's up?

My G., what's going on? Telling, my brother, man. I just want to get off my chest about the fashion game. I know how I do, bro. This is a Monty, man. I made that hoodie for Angel Lee a long time ago and Charleney was hating on me. But I love you, brother, man.

I ain't got no hate for you, man. I'm still out here pushing, man. Seven years strong, bro. Seven years strong. What I was hating about, I'd be forgetting. But back in the day, man, I caught up there and talking about fashion. Man, you ain't in shit. You ain't in nothing, man.

You was hating back in the day. But now you're different, man. So it's cool, man. And I also want to get off my chest, I ain't got no hatred for you, man. I swear to God, man, I used to hate you. But now I don't, man. It's cool, man. I swear to die I ain't going to hate for you, bro.

Even though, I could have made it. I could have made it, man. You would have just been on my side when I was going to wait. Oh, no, don't start that now. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I mean, was probably trash. Probably just didn't like it. Like, people get mad when you say something's trash.

It might have been trash. I don't remember saying, I've never seen his clothes to say it was trash. No, he said you've seen it. He said she was wearing it, and you said it was trash. Sounds like you. Damn, you told it told it was trash she was wearing it. Does that sound like it? Absolutely.

Damn. All right. Get it off your chest. You got a hook on That hoodie trash Sound like him Damn Sound like him

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It's DJ NV Jess hilarious Shalami and the guy We are the breakfast Club We got some special Legends in the building Man come on now

This is a special one right here Legends of the building Of course the cast of good times Fifty years of good time We got Michael Thelma And JJ Well first of all right Carter, Bernadette Stannis, and Jimmy Walker.

That's right. Good morning, guys. How y'all feeling? Good morning breakfast club. 50 years of good times? Wow. I know. Wow.

And we're still going strong. Did y'all know good times were going to make the mark that it made? Well, I didn't. Had no idea. No, we didn't. But we were very grateful it did. Yeah. Well, for the beginning, let's start.

How did it come about? How did good times come about? How did you guys audition and how did it make? Because during that time, there wasn't too many of us on television, so how did it come about? Well... And he is black. You know, when he's saying...

I don't know. I can tell he's black. They joke me on time, but I'm black. I don't know, Mr. Carter, man. Thank you. Yeah. Well, it started with me being in a beauty pageant, you know. And from there, there was a manager

watching me in the beauty pageant and gave my mother a card to say, they're looking for a teen to be in the show and meet Norman Lear at CBS you know so we went up there but there were thousands of girls when I opened a door so I mean but that's how it started with me you was a teenager on good time yeah oh what was you 18 oh okay I'm about to say Lord have mercy okay yeah all right okay you still beautiful thank you absolutely so and then you know after a couple of months I thought I

didn't get it you know because I didn't hear back from them and then I did get the call. My mom got the call that I was Thelma. And so they flew me out to California. That's how it happened for me. Wow. What about you, Mr. Carter? By the time I began to work with Norman Lear, I had been in my sixth Broadway play by that time during my journey with Miss Jane Murray and also Pat Kirkland. These were two wonderful women who I auditioned for when I went there. However, I literally had the job before I got the job. My contract was bought from the Raising in the Sun by Lorraine Hansbury, we did the adept version of the musical play. By that time, I had won the Tony Award nomination that year in 74. However, as a result of that, Norman would consistently, he came

more than twice to see my work and flew my mother and I out to the state of California. You know, I was reluctant because they always said, it never rains in California. And I was excited. It rained for three months when I got this. Right then and there, any alludes? about Hollywood were always neutralized as far as I've concerned. So I'm very grateful to have not only worked with and still love Jimmy Walker and Bernadette, but we give respect to the spirit of Ms. Esther Rowe, to Jeanette Du Bois, and to Johnny Brown, who played Bookman, to Helen Martin, who played Weeping Wander. These are wonderful people that helped us along the way.

Of course, to Mr. Ben Powers as well. Albert Reed, who played the older men. These are people who accentuated what we did. Of course, we're working with the wonderful Debbie Allen and the work that she contributed to our production. So we thank you. What about you, Mr. Walker? I'm just a hardcore stand-up.

That's it. That's all I do. I'm just a stand-up to the core. So I went to a comedy store. I'm doing shows. I go back to bed at like 3 o'clock in the morning. Get a call J.D. Joe. She says, where are you?

I said, I'm in my bed sleeping. She says, well, you belong across the street. We're doing rehearsals. I said, rehearsal for what? She says, there's a show called Good Times. You signed on to the show. I had signed on to it at the improv. She didn't believe him.

Yeah, because I didn't believe him because he's a liar. So I... Was this a verbal contract? No, they had a contract. Kenny the drunk, who was a lawyer, who was at the bar. I said, Kenny, is this any good? He said, yeah, I think so. Sign it.

I'll send it back for you. And I thought, I said, Kenny, he's a drunk. He's not going to send it. He's a liar. He's not going to send it. So then he sent it back So I was on the show So I go to the rehearsal

And there's a whole bunch of people there At the rehearsal because I didn't even know we had a script Because they said there's a script downstairs I said I'm going back to bed Because I'm not going downstairs to get a script Because they're lying I don't have time But just there So I went I got the script

And I'm reading the script And I sit at the guy next to me like you normally I said man this sucks what is this God Jesus I said He said we're going to do a TV show I said, really? I said, you're a liar.

It's not going to happen. This is terrible. From then on, we did the show, and I was always throwing stuff in, and people got upset. So when did you stop thinking people was lies? Never. I think it now.

People, I mean, agents are liars. They're all liars. Very few people. People want to be bigger than what they are. And the big people, you never meet them. They're in the big glass tower upstairs on the 90th floor. So, you know, even if, like Bernard Eil, even though I mean

the girl, I said, give me your number. I know she's lying because she's not going to give you the number and then with the horrible things with the cell phones, they don't answer. You text them, you email them, they sit in their room and they sit with their girlfriends and they

start laughing. They go, this moron I met at Walmart he asked for my number. I was busy. I gave my number because I know I'm never going to talk to him. My answer is emails ever he did get lucky this week once in a while

somebody will come through but very very rarely and the girl will be nice and some girls will go some girls will go and I learned this from a friend of mine who happens to be a girl and she said a very interesting thing

she said you know if you want to get rid of a guy and he asked you to go out say, you know, like, if she's a girl, I asked you to go out. So I say, hey, Jess, you know, why don't we, you know, go to the four seasons and have dinner? That's what they do. They go, honey, and say, are you serious? Really? But you're going to be lucky this week.

No, it wasn't lucky yet. But it was a girl that showed promise. Oh, she answered. She answered, and I was like, really? sometimes sometimes you're so stunned and then one called you one did call back I was I was stunned how many times you give you a number out to these women

all the time you get I'm available anybody but see they and I said the girls hey let's go in a cruise together and they just go what age are these women at you

they're on a cruise they just go what age are they they're adults yeah They just start laughing. They just start laughing. They just go. How do y'all feel about the Good Times cartoon on Netflix?

Well, that's Bernadette's thing. She'll tell you. How do you feel, Ms. Bernadette? Because they keep calling it a reboot, but that's not a... No, that's not it at all. No, that's not it at all. I think that our audience missed something. You know, they missed what happened to us.

It's always they want the completion of it. It never really happened so far. My thing about the animation was this, that, you know, I know that Jimmy Walker came to them and he presented a cartoon about five years before this, before this one. And it was, it was really the, all of us, the way we are in an animation, and we have our same voices and everything like that. They didn't bite that. But later on came up with, they're going to do an animation. And I remember my manager called them and said, well, what are they going to, are we going to be? in it or not. So the way they describe

the animation to us was this. It was going to be a modern day, you know, progression of what everything is going to be for the Good Times family. You know, fine. But they asked Jimmy and I to do a tiny little part, but it sounded okay.

You know, we didn't see the scripts. So Jimmy did the part. I did a little part. My character's name is Peaches. You know, she's like a project lady that's whatever. But when the trailer came out, we saw it and everybody was like, no you know you don't have a crack baby in somebody in mother's arms you don't do that so and i remember having an interview with the singer gillstrap jim gillstrap and he was saying you know there's

some lyrics that they took out so i said what's what were the lyrics and he said well you know they say roaches roaming the hallway and the landlord lives on the other side of town or something like that he said that they took it out because 50 years ago now they thought that that would be offensive to black people, okay? But 50 years later, you have two roaches singing in the shower. They sing in the song good time. So I'm like,

this is not it. I haven't watched it. Mr. Cardi. I actually was quite disappointed with the actors who took the time to sign on to that project. These are actors and artists and comedian that I really had a high regard for. I won't use the past tense with them right now, but I'm disappointed at the

fact that they did that. When I did take a quick review of this particular rubbish that I saw, I was contacted by some media outlets from my point of view, but I refuse to dignify it with a response. And I'm just pretty much disappointed with the artist who signed on to it. Yeah. Y'all don't like the Good Times reboot. To say that? Yeah. It's crazy, you know, 50 years of good times. I'm stuck like nobody did a documentary or some type of, you know, reuse. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse

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The anthology that I did write, it wouldn't be a product commercially right now, again, because of the losses that we had. But we did have a movie that we worked with. That we were going to put together. And we had all the characters. It just didn't.

They are now ancestors. This is Brett Miller who works with Norman. And that's the guy who kind of gabashed us. And that was it. I mean, that's the way we're, because when I took it around, everybody I talked to says, well, do you own the rights?

And we go, no. And they said, well, nothing we could do for you. And these are all friends of mine. So that's the way it was. I just think that they didn't want us involved and they achieved their goal. Yeah. Well, we love y'all. All right, guys.

You know that, yes, our fans really kept riding us and telling us how much they loved us and they didn't like the animation. You know, they respect us in so many different ways. So we still got our satisfaction out of it, you know? Absolutely. And when the people don't like it, watch out. That's right.

Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us. Fifty years of good times. The lyrics to the theme song. Y'all all know that. No, I don't know it. I think Ralph knows it. Keeping your head above water, making a wave when you can. Temporary layoffs, good times.

Easy credit riffball. Good time. Scratching in, surviving. Good time. Good time. Hanging in a child line. No. Oh, is hanging in the child line?

That's how I interpret it. I have the written lyrics. Yes, it is. Hanging in and jiving. You have two versions. Hanging in and jiving. Hanging in jive. but also I have on document in my archive

hanging in the child line. So they have two, they have both versions of it. However, it really caught on the way that the wonderful Jeunet Dubois wrote the soundtrack for moving on up for the Jefferson. Jeunet Dubois is the writer and the musician and the vocalist that sings that song. So that in itself, when you deal with theme songs,

and when we were coming on, y'all grace isn't up to play it for us so it was a nice way to walk into your sound studio and we thank you so the mystery continues we still don't know if it's hanging in the child line it's hanging in and jive it's hanging in and jiving it's hanging

and jiving it's yeah that's what it is Bernie that's not going to have this going on for a while obviously we appreciate you Jim Gilstrap the one who sung it told me he said it was hanging in and jiving so that's what it was but it came off I don't know if it was the

anunciation of it or not, but it came off as hanging in a child line. It sounds that way, but it really was hanging in a jive. And there's a second verse that people have never heard that goes to the same song. So the information that I do have, it has what I'm trying to say. That's the roaches. That's the roaches singing in the shower. So you guys have been wonderful. I thank you for thinking enough of us.

Again, to your listening audience. We thank you again for wonderful 50 years. May you be blessed by every breath you breathe and every beat of your heart. Thank you very much. That's right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you. All right.

Yes, who are most dangerous morning to show the Breakfast Club? Shalameen, the God. Lauren LaRose is here. Just hilarious is here. Who's filling in for envy? Lauren LaRose is filling in for envy. Is it feeling in? He's here.

I'm here. We? But she's filling in. Yeah. Yeah. He's a guest today, though, because his new book, Real Life, Real Family with the Queen of the House. Gia Casey is out right now. How you feeling you?

humbled by being given the opportunity to write a book about something that is the most important thing to me the thing I'm the most passionate about the thing that brings me the most joy, family, parenting, my household, our home. So, yes, I'm very humbled. This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing.

You know what, let's just rewind a bit. For those who don't know, who is the case of crew, where did that name come from? How did you all get started? Do you remember The Casey crew? Yeah, it's our last name What do you mean? No, no, no, but do you remember how we came up with a name? No, how did we come up with the name?

We were doing our first podcast And it was before we were doing like the audio version The video version, it was just the audio version And we started the podcast without a name And we sat there and we kind of Was coming up with like different names And one of us said, well, how about the Casey crew? You know, our last name was Casey, we have a whole crew of kids,

a whole gaggle, what about the Casey crew? And then people, you know, DMed us and emailed and whatnot. And they said, yeah, we love that name. We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves the Casey Crew. Amazing. That's where I came about. And Gear, whenever you post on social, you always hashtag the Casey Crew.

Yes. Envy does as well. But one of the things that you guys do really good from the podcast to bringing it online is you pay attention to the comments and the responses. Gia does. Yeah. And you guys bring them into the podcast. But you also, like, reflect on them on social media. So I want to read one of the, um,

the post that we pulled, and I thought that this was great. You inspired me. This is someone commenting to you guys. You inspire me. I wish all parents had this level of intention, planning, and vibe. Truth is most parents, moms are stressed, overworked by trying to make ends meet in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's passed down to the children. You've passed down light and love because of that and because of what you are.

High five to all of the parents doing their best. And you use that as a moment to talk about, like, no, it'd get a little crazy over here. Oh, yeah. But it's important because if you ever been around your family, it is a lot of love and a lot of life. But I'm sure on the inside, things get crazy. Well, you know, that's a big misconception. People assume that because you live a certain lifestyle or because you've earned a certain financial status, that you don't have the same problems that they have, you know? So that comment really, really stood out to me because she spoke on the troubles and the trauma and the word trauma that she used.

And Rishon will speak on the word trauma. Sometimes he feels as though it's a word that's overused. But it's a word that represents something that so many people endure. The difference now is that we have words to identify how we feel and what we go through. And it's articulated. Because when our feelings and our experiences are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People are able to understand you. You're able to understand other people.

You're able to have empathy and compassion for other people. because now we're all speaking a universal language, like the word triggered, like the word trauma, like the word... Gaslet. You know, these are things that some may think are overused now. Exactly. Yes, but there is value there.

There is value there because now we can see each other. We understand each other. When you're trying to create a safe space, you know, how is it to venture into an unsafe space like the comments? Especially with somebody that's on the air every day. You know what I mean? People have an opinion about it every day. So I read every single comment.

Every last comment, every YouTube comment. I interact. It started when I had a lower follower account. It started because I always felt that if someone follows me, that's an investment, a small investment maybe, but it's an investment that they put into me. And they're looking at my content, they're looking at my pictures. And you left a comment, I want to respond. back to you. I used to respond to almost every comment, you know, but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really able to do that. And that was something that, you know, I had to take that

on the chin. I wasn't able to, but it's a sign of respect. And you said, why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong enough to do that. I'm strong enough to do that. The comments don't, if they are negative, and I have to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments, thankfully, thank God. But if they are negative, I look at it as insight. I, I might ask myself, why might someone have that perspective? To me, it feeds my mental because I'm a thinker. I'm a deep thinker. I'm mull over things. I love to understand people. So for me, the comments are food. And they also bring me happiness when they're good. It lets you know that you're reaching someone. You're whatever it is that you're putting out. Because it's in the

sense of sharing. There's a lot of things that I don't share. So if I choose to share and it's well received, then that's a good feeling. I think that's why a lot of people are on, or part of the reason why a lot of people are on social media. You know what I mean? And I'm strong enough to do so, and that's because of the way that I was raised. Yeah. I was raised to be a very strong and resilient woman. It comes directly from my parents. I'm fortunate in the sense that I can look back and identify things about the way that I was raised that created the individual, the woman, the mother, the wife that I am. And it's for me, it's a very beautiful thing. Both of my parents are no longer here. So to be able to say, wow, when my mother did this every single day, or when she

took me here once a week, or when she said this to me and those compliments, and that the way that she fed me and she fed my soul and the joy that I experienced and the amount of fun that I had as a kid. Like, I loved my life. And it's not because we were wealthy. We were not we're a middle middle class family i'm from brooklyn from east flatbush we weren't raised you know like i'm from an urban area and it's not it had nothing to do with money it had nothing to do with wealth it had everything to do with what my parents poured into my home and the love that i felt and that is what we put into writing this book there's a lot of books that we could have written you know so many ideas came oh because real life real love was a huge success it was a

national bestseller. So I go, you can write a book about this. We said we want to write a book about family. It's what we know best. It's what we know best. We've had so many ups, so many downs, so many wins, so many losses, so many things that we thought we were doing right, that we weren't, that we had to regroup and make sure that we were balanced, you know, as a married couple. Because when we didn't agree, it's like, my way is better. No, my way is better.

And this, you know, we had to come to a meeting of the minds. Yeah. You know what I mean? So our relationship You know, the relationship grew You know, because we had to learn How to see eye to eye as parents So there was just, there was many, many ups and downs

And we wanted to pour that all into a book You know, we wanted to let everyone know Like, it's really that village mentality It's really that like we are a community Especially our black community Because I'm black Yes, yeah, yeah, for the record For the record

He is 100% black He doesn't have an ounce of Spanish blood. But I know that you're well aware because you speak to things of this nature often. But our history is being erased in schools and it's being stripped away silently in society. So the foundation starts in our homes. We have to teach children how to identify. identify themselves. We have to teach children that sense of belonging. And they have to understand that they come from something meaningful. And if you leave it up to society to teach them that, you're going to wind up with children that are lost, that are overlooked, that don't know how to identify themselves, that get taken advantage of, and that are susceptible to what society wants for them. So for us, our core, our nucleus, our foundation, our home

supersedes anything else in this world. We put our family first. Would you say that you and we have two different parenting styles? Who's the more lenient parent? Who's the more lenient parent? It depends what it is.

You know, everybody knows my dad is retired police officer and ex-military, so I'm disciplined. I was the yell or the screamer because I said so. Yeah. Gia's a lot different. Arguments we gave me like seven hours. It don't be, like, because she wants to know why. Yeah.

Why did you feel that way? And I can tell her she likes to break down. What? You don't get it. You're going to get it by the end of this. Right, right. You burn that trip up on the words. Exactly.

So you got to really think before you speak to her because she's like, all right, well, explain that. Like I just said it just because. No, no, no, no, explain this. But, so I'm more like, because I said so. She's more like, well, you can't go to the more because of this. Because this could happen. Explain your parenting style. Mine is, my dad was like, no.

And you didn't ask why. It just wanted, it was what it was. you just figured it out later. Gia's a little different. I prefer the explanation. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me.

I knew that my parents were invested in me living a happy, fulfilled, and fun life. And we didn't go lightly on the fun. And because I knew that, and my parents never said no just for the sake of saying no. Because parents are overworked and they are stressed. And the last thing they want to hear when they walk through the door is, mommy can I can you take me here can you buy me this can we watch this together can we go like slow down no and sometimes you say no you don't even know why you're saying no that's not a good parenting technique you really have to take a moment you have to take a beat we all have to take a beat to listen to our

children and be patient and because I knew that my parents were invested in me that way I knew that when they said no there was a good reason how you make sure you're not you're raising the kids out of love and not fear though. That's such a good question. It comes with the explanations. Do you know what I mean? I don't tell them you can't do this and you can't do that. Why? Because I said so. Let me explain to you why. You know, sometimes we'll watch the news together. You know, when they're at an appropriate age, at about nine years old. You know, I think that they're mature enough to ingest certain things. So what I do is I would record it on my DVR and then cherry pick different stories that I think that are appropriate, that speak to the protective measures that we take on them.

You know what I mean? So it's like if I see a child abduction that's not too traumatic, I might save that and then show it to a child that's old enough. You know, I did it with Madison. I did it with Logan. And I find that they take that into their adult lives. And they're very, very, like Madison walks around like a police officer. She has a boyfriend.

His name is Andrew. And when they go into a restaurant, she's the one that sits facing the door. she feels like the protective force in that relationship because her head is always on swivel. You know what I mean? She could tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead, you know, and she's always paying attention to license plays. When she was young, I used to go through like in case you get kidnapped scenarios

because it's the type of information that can save a life. Girls are being taken. So if you have a young girl, It is very proactive to educate them about the realities and the tricks and the cons that people, you know, because even me as proactive as I try to be, that whole technique with a baby crying outside your house, I would be inclined to open the door. If I hear a baby crying and someone that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming outside the house, I am that type of person. Not me. But now you're going to be like something wrong. But now, I would, my heart with my, I would be inclined to open that door.

But now with all the knowledge and some of the good things about social media is that so much knowledge is being spread. So now we're consuming good information as well. So I heard that I'm like, wow, that's absolutely right. It jogs your thinking. It makes you say, oh, wait a minute, I do have to put myself first. Even if someone else a stranger seems to be a need. I have to prioritize myself, my home, my family. So, you know, it's important to spread information

and to teach your kids, even though it may be a little scary. But you do have to do it in a way where it doesn't incite fear. How y'all pick and choose what y'all, like, what y'all decide to be transparent about? Like, it's just so much. And your kids are getting older and they're like, you know, like they're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends. How do you know?

If it was up to me, I'm transparent with everything, right? Gia has to hold back a lot. Like, for instance, like with Logan, right? Logan, when he was in high school, used to get picked on all the time. But he used to get picked on, guess for what reason? You mean a life game?

No, because Charlemagne and Ed is gay. Yes, yes. So. Stop being gay. I tell you all the time. No, when you gave me the ass, that's why. Pause. What?

Wow. Hey, you know. He gave me the butt cake. When he gave me the butt cake, when he gave me the butt cake. That's not much better. You know what that means. The butt shake cake, he gave me. When he gave me.

No, we are not about to hate him. But it's just going to be made fun of because of that. But the reason I'm so transparent is there's so many families and people dealing with the same things, but never want to talk about it. Scared to. So that's why I talked about the orgasm thing in the first book. That's why in the second book we talk about, you know, the time. Shut up, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that. Every interview you do that.

Google's it. Every interview. Lauren, do you want to do some of this, sir? No. No. No. You should tell the listeners for those. So even like in this book, we talk about the time

that Logan found a bloody condom at one of his friend's house. So he can't, but he's comfortable. Why are you looking at that? It wasn't mine. He's like, oh, he found a bloody condombed. It wasn't at our house, all right? No, he was at his friend's house. And he was like maybe nine years old.

Nine years old. He was about nine years old. But he was comfortable enough to come over. They were in the basement and the little boy had an older brother. Oh, okay. Yeah. When Charlemagne gave daddy the ass, that's how it's, that's, that's how you, that's, that's Oh my gosh.

So she had, that's when we had the sex talk and Gia had to have the sex talks with Logan and Madison. What kind of sex talk though? No, I'm sorry. It wasn't a backdoor sex talk. It's a different era that we are. So it ain't just birds and bees. It's birds and wasp and birds and, no, I'm serious.

Birds and. They got a full-blown. Oh. Sex talk. They had to understand. Because if you leave it... Not backdoor sex talk. If that's what you're...

No, no. I'm really trying to figure out why was the condom bloody. I'm really... Somebody ran a red light, like, worse. What you think? Somebody just... Somebody butt open and just strings his...

You know what? Somebody ran a red light, obviously. Could also be like a first time thing? Yeah. Yeah, but no, they... At that point, I found that they were old enough and mature enough. And they're encountering things.

Now these conversations are being had amongst their peers. And I knew that if I didn't set them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told them, sex feels good. It's a pleasurable experience. God made us that way because God wants us to reproduce.

He wants us to create offspring. So he made it something that we would enjoy, but it's meant for someone that you love. And that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay. So what is it like? Yeah. And what did you say?

Okay, if I'm being honest, I told them that there is a penis and there is a vagina. And my son, Logan, was like, so like this? Mm-hmm, m-ch, m-ch, m-ch, m-sh, I was like, yeah, something like that. I said, you know, some people look at it as a negative thing. No, no, no, no, he really didn't. No, he really didn't. He really didn't. Even like my 11-year-old son right now, he does not know.

So when they ask me questions that I don't want them to know about. And he's older than Logan was, but now with, I have a better grip on his friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on his phone and whatnot and parameters, boundaries. So I'm really abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't. And our lines of communication are way better. Yeah. You have six kids. So is there anything that you felt like in the beginning? I didn't know until y'all got to that six kid.

Of course. Yeah. Like what were some of the things that you didn't know? You just was like, man, Roshan are winging this. I'll give you an example. So one of the fails, and this was something that we disagreed on. So it was the explaining everything to the kids. I have the patience to do it, and he really is because I said so type of guy.

And it worked beautifully with Madison. But with Logan from a young age, I would. explain everything to him and he's a mama's boy times 30 you know what I mean like we're very very close but it kind of went wrong with him because what we found was that we created an environment where he felt that he was entitled to an explanation and he felt as though because we gave him too safe of a space that he could challenge me and he can challenge a decision that I made so we had to dial that back. Teach boundaries. And then we

had to teach boundaries and let him know his place. So that was a fail in a sense. And Rashom would always look at me like, see, I told you. Like, see, I told you. I'm always the bad guy because now I got to go discipline that. So now me and Logan get into it. And now you can't beat

Logan because Logan did it. So now I got to discipline Logan and then me and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing, is they're very forgiven. Like with Logan, I have to get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the next day, he's like, hey, dad, what's up?

And I'm like, hey, dad, what's up? But that's how he is. And he just has conversations. But we have those conversations, and we understand and we talk. But he's the one that, just like his mom. I love to you, I have a family mission statement. Yes. What is the mission statement to tell people the importance of that?

Well, just so we don't have it on our wall and make the kids read it when they walk in the house. It's not that type of mission statement. It's not like that. So our mission statement is just something that we, you know, as a. family we all live by right and I'll read some of them and the reason is is we are a close unit right so if you see us together we're all always out together you see me the other day with Jackson you see me before and I'm Charlotte Man seen me before so the mission statement is we are a unit right we all ride together like we are really a unit a unit I'm an only child so I'm heavy

into taking care of each other we respect each other of course it's simple we like we make sure that you know we respect each other's feeling we always have each other's backs that's one thing that we always do. And sometimes when we have conversations up here, I always talk about my kids. So when they see stuff on social media, at times I have to stop them because they will go in, especially Logan.

Logan will go in. He speaks like that. We always love to uplift each other and point out the good in one another, right? We see that more, especially with our girls in dance, because they compete against each other a lot. So when they do, we have to make sure that regardless of what happens, like a couple of weeks ago,

London lost, and we thought London got jerked. So I told, you know, I had a conversation with Brooklyn. And Brooklyn was like that. don't worry, I'm going to get first and second four. And she went out there and busted asking out first and second. She got first place and second place. You know, gave the first place to her sister because that's what it was. We represent each other at all times.

That's how it always is. So we always tell our kids, if we're not there, you make sure that those parents come back and say, oh, my gosh, he was such a pleasure. He was polite. He was this. Even with Jackson at the game, you know, Jackson said thank you a million and one time. He said hello a million to one time to you because that's what he's taught to do. You show respect. With that, my goal for my kids.

is that when they leave our house, I want everyone that they come in contact with to know that they're well-loved. What we teach you inside this house, you exemplify outside of this house. And these are things that a lot of parents don't put into perspective when raising children. Because what do we usually do?

We take an idea and we throw it up against the wall and we see if it sticks or not. You know what I mean? Oh, that worked. Oh, that didn't. Okay. But a lot of people don't have something tangible that they can go back to and be like,

this is a way to create a foundation. This is a way to create a structure. And because we had so many ups and downs, we were able to do that and put it in one place. And I think the biggest story, I know you hate when I tell the story was Jackson, right? So we had a pair of teachers night a couple of weeks ago. Oh.

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And he was like, I just want to tell you, you know, Jackson did something that no child or adult has done in my life. The other day I'm walking down the hall and Jackson comes running up to me and he goes, you know, are you okay? And the teacher was like, what do you mean? He was like, you just don't look as happy as you usually do, or you are right? Is anything bothering you? Would you like to have a conversation with me and just talking through? He was like, what? He was like, nah, you just don't seem as happy as you do.

But don't let things stress you out. Just pray on it. And tomorrow will be better, right? And if you need to talk to me, come talk to me. And he said, Jackson ran off. And he was like, I've never had an adult or a child ever do that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing at home, continue that. And, you know what I mean?

That just shows what the kids are learning at home is worth everything. So you need to report that teacher, too. He don't need to be in the school system. You know, I need the next. Walking around, like, that ain't going to have nobody to tell me. The next day, he probably was like, you got some time at the Christmas. I am going to say, that's going to say.

Y'all is such a beautiful family. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You know. Real life, real family. Exactly. Yeah, thank you for pulling up. And for everybody else, we just want to add this last part.

We actually wrote it with somebody that helped us out. with terms and helped us with different phrases and helped us make sure that we were actually doing the right thing when it came to raising our kids. Yes, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were on the level that I would want to put it out to the public.

I wanted the psychological research and quarterbacking behind the way that we parent to pretty much put a stamp on it to know that we, what we're doing, not just from our personal experience-driven point of view is sound, but from a psychological point of view is also sound. I wanted to make sure that alongside the truth and the transparency and the experience that we had that backing to the book as well.

I wanted that level of value in the book as well. And also, you know, if you have a child with anxiety, ADD, ADHD, other setbacks, other disabilities, you know, we speak to you in this book as well because those people are very, like they don't have that many resources. This book is for anyone who is a parent, a single parent, a parent that is married. A single woman, maybe about to have kids and next something is.

Someone that wants to have a child. I didn't look at you, Lauren. Wow. Nobody looked at you, first of all, you did look over here. I looked at you said it. Thank you. It's forever.

It's a very relatable book and there's a lot of exercises in the book. We kind of also created it in like a workbook style. So there's a lot of reflections. There's a lot of places in there for you to answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and understand your own point of view in a way of like articulation

where if you haven't really thought about certain things, it'll jog you to think about things and even if you don't do don't take our take, it encourages you and helps you to come up with your own takes on parenting. So.

Now. Real family. That's right. It's the Casey crew. It's the breakfast club. He gave me donkey other day and I deserve the... You need to know.

Well, you need to tell them. I am. You have the voice. Tell them. It's time for don't. Donkey of the day. It's a re, but you're so good at it. You're trying to be a fake-ass Charlemagne.

He's only one Charlemagne to go. Damn, Salamee. Who do you give the donkey of the day today? Well, sexy, red. Donkey of the day goes to Robert Langlis and Tunisia eBay. They are 33 and 32 years old, respectively. And they was trying to duck the law, okay? Just like you did last night.

It's okay. All right, somebody out there listening to me right now, ran from the police late last night early this morning. It happens. I understand. One of the best feelings in the world is running from police and getting away. Trust me, I know. I saw a crack once.

When the police come in a rage your spot and you hit the woods and get away, what an exhilarating feeling. Now, you shouldn't be doing illegal things that will make the police come after you. I am not encouraging that. I'm just simply saying that when you are doing illegal things and the police come for you and you get away, incredible. Now, Robin and Tunisia don't know what that feels like. No, see, officers tried to execute a warrant on a property in Fall River, Massachusetts, and Robin and Tunisia tried to get away, but it didn't work. Let's go to NBC-10 Boston for the report, please.

No, that's not Santa Claus. You're looking at police body camera video from Fall River. It shows a man there stuck in a chimney. We're told officers executed a search warrant at a home on Canal Street last night. That's when 33-year-old Robert Langlace tried to evade arrest by hiding in a chimney. It didn't work. He got stuck. Police had to call in the fire department to get him out.

Langlace is facing drug charges. See? This is what happens when you. believe in Santa Claus every year you all get mad at me for telling the truth hey no Santa Claus is not real hey okay liar Bob humbug is not real Santa Claus is not real Santa Claus is not real Grinch Grinch Grinch Grinch Grinch Grinch Grinch Grinch churns turn you right there down if you got kids in cars liar okay number two you don't even own the chimney

all right number three if you owned the chimney why would Santa Claus be able to fit down it have you seen Santa Claus he's built exactly like former governor of New Jersey Chris Christie all right there's no way there's no way his big ass could fit down the chimney, but you humans have convinced yourselves that the story of Santa is real, and being that you all think Santa is real, you think what Santa does is real. And you thought your dumb ass could just slide

down the chimney and end up where exactly? Huh? In somebody's living room, eating milk and cookies? Huh? Now, Robert and Tunisia were both charged for possession of class A and B drugs. I had to look that up, okay? Class A drugs in Massachusetts are heroin, morphine, meth, ecstasy, and ketamine. Alright, class B

drugs? Who said, hmm? Somebody in his said, that was you? That was you? Damn Nick. Nick's ready for vacation. Look at you don't drug test up here. My God. Class B drugs are cocaine, crack, LSD, and ecstasy. Okay?

Listen, none of this is surprising in light of the circumstances. Whoever made up the story of Santa Claus was high as hell. Okay, it's the only explanation. And the fact we created this one-size-fits-all story that doesn't even make no damn sense. Hasn't even really stood the test of time if you think about it. We live in the era of Amazon, FedEx, UPS, dropping packages. off all types of day, all times the night, but all Santa got is a bag

one bag like he a whole who just stayed over for the night. And he got something for everybody in the world and just one bag dressed in all red so he don't go to Crip neighborhoods, not to mention nobody ever questions who exactly are the elves. I don't think they are elves at all. I think

Santa Claus is engaging in child labor. If he's real, he got a bunch of kids in North Pole, treating him like slaves. Either that are they desperate migrants from Mexico. and Santa Claus is benefiting from cheap illegal labor. Now, some of y'all out there are saying yourself, Sholamate is on the radio making up things about Santa Claus. If you feel that way, then you too are on Class A or Class B drugs.

I'm making up things about a made-up thing. Yeah, the moral of the story is police described Robert's antics as Santa-like. Well, this is the season. Please give Robert Langliss the sweet sounds and the hamletones. you are the donkey of the day you are the day envy so mad at you

for what? Because Santa Claus is real I don't know why you'd even say Santa Claus is real you're busted your ass all year long to give a fat white man the credit for taking care of your family I didn't say Santa was white I just said

Santa's real Well either way you're giving another man credit But that is crazy, though. San is real. Exactly. What type of man gives another man credit for taking care of his family? He grew up Jehovah Witness. Oh, my God.

I mean, oh, my God. It's the whole community. We grew up dealing with reality. So, yeah, so Santa is real. And shout to all the kids out there. Being good out there. So Santa could get you, that's right. Thank you so much.

So Santa could get you toys. And the Elzadale watching you guys to make sure you guys are doing the right thing so you can get more toys from Santa. He has children, young children, Charlemagne. Okay. You think, y'all live in the civil rights for life hold. Who laugh at us? Because they're like, why are you trying to convince us that this entity is real?

But your kids are always two different levels. Your kids know more about civil rights and everything. He hasn't introduced that to them yet. So you've got to relax, please. She's just three. She's just three. She's just three. Damn.

All right. Jesus. I ain't, I don't know the last time I seen the chimney. What is it chimly? What's stressed out? Stressed, when you make up your little words and I know it because you got your list for going on. But it's always been chimly for me. I'm sorry. You got a fireplace?

I have a fireplace, but I don't have a chimney. If you have a fireplace, you have a chimney. Oh, so what is it? Where is that in the attic or something? Oh, you know what? I've never seen the chimney before. I don't know if I got a chimney either. Exactly. I got an electric fireplace, though. Oh, so.

See? Now, how do you do that? You have a chimney, sir. With an electric fireplace? Yes. I don't know. And we know about houses. I know what we don't got.

Santa Claus. You, shut up. Okay. I know we ain't got that. I know that much. I hate this place, man. All right. It's the breakfast club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess, hilarious. Shalameen, the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. A man who I feel like him and Jess have one of the best co-parenting relationships I've ever seen.

That's right. Rome is here. Rome is here. What's up, Ron? I got to chuck it already, Ron, called you. Wow, what happened? Just said, I want to know who gave Rome some liquor this morning. And I was like, I didn't give it to him.

I just told him where the ball was. You said help yourself. Help yourself. Yeah, that's fine. You said it was apple juice. And so I was about to take a sip and I was like, uh-uh. You always knew it wasn't apple juice. I just saying thank you.

I was going to pick the cup up. Okay. You and Jess have the best co-parenting situation I've ever witnessed. How did y'all get to this point, man? And she thinks she's my mother, first and foremost, okay? But it took time. I felt like when you take the feelings out of it And you realize that the child is the most important part of the relationship

Because it's still a relationship whether you are intimate or not You can do magical things And I think that me being a dad that I was and that I am still today I wanted that I felt like if we wasn't going to be together It wasn't going to need for us to be We've created over time Where now she's my best friend she's she's my safe space

I feel like when I can vent to her because sometimes, all the time, I need it. But I feel like when I was pouring into these other women, it would use it against me. Whereas though now, now that she's pregnant, I don't really call her and say certain things because I know she's going through certain things mentally now. So just as always with my safe space, though. So it's like she's always been a person that I go to, I call, give me advice. Some advice I don't take, but just to hear her give it to me, just to know that she care. Because, like, man, I don't really have nobody.

How did y'all meet? How did you meet, Jess, and how did y'all start dating back then? What did you see it? When it was like, oh, this is somebody I want on that. It's crazy because we grew up in the same. He's starting to smile. He's going back. No, because I, um, my mom, when my mom was alive, my mom died when I was 10. My mom was alive, we went to the same church.

My mom died. My father, like, really took me away from everybody. So, man, it was like, fast forward. I'm, like, 17. It was Facebook. And she came across my time mind. I was like, oh, okay. So I did a dot, dot, dot, and I put a basketball emotion.

Oh, you thought she was a WNBA player? No. No, shut up, man. A little junior boss of these? No. You play with you. No, she bid on it, too. Okay.

I think I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball, coming to get what's mine, something like that. Why the basketball room? I need to know. I've seen it somewhere. What, loving basketball? No, I've seen somebody do that. Like, I don't know where I've seen them. You've got to see this one.

A basketball in the messages. This is 11 years. Okay. 12 years ago. So I'm like, I don't know. I did it because I thought it was corny, but I thought it was, you know. But it worked. It got attention.

What did you think, Jess, when you saw the basketball? I just said, what the fuck is this? Okay. I just typed that back. And he was like, he said, it was my ball. It's my ball. And I'm coming to get it. Something like, I'm coming to get was mine.

And I was like, oh, okay, what's up. I already knew what I was giving, what it was. It was. But it worked. It worked. It worked. So y'all started talking. Where was your first date?

What was your first? First off, what was your- Honest? Man, Jessica did a lot. I'm going to say this. Before a lot of these young guys became Jody, I was Jody. And

our first date, big date, I'm going to say it was six flags. Okay, okay, six flags. All right, not doing it big. But before that, we did a lot of other things. But after that, it was, we did a lot. Like, she introduced him to a lot. Actually, we both was the same.

same age, but she helped make me become got me, she'll be coming a man. Yeah. Coming to a man. And then, yeah, then boom. Now, Jess always says that you are you are overprotective, made sure she was good. Correct. But she always said you can't fight. Oh, my God.

No, she never seen me fight. Oh. I never had to. Wrong. We fought. I got that from... She did say that. Of course I'm not going to fight her, bro. Oh, it's crazy because I just got a picture

from the window you bust the mons. She busted your windows on your car? Man, no, one window with a fist. What? What happened? Oh, you can't be her then. If she could break a window from a fist out, when you were trying to fight that.

What happened, Rome? Rome had to take a sip thinking about that. That's trigger into him. What happened? What happened? You're on the real? Yeah, yes. All right.

Like, Jessica pull up. Madge, we ain't together. Jessica pulls up. I had a girl in the house. So my brother, like, come to the top of the steps. Like, no, just had the door. I'm like, all right, here I come.

The thing you don't even wait for me to come. He let her in. He let her in. Oh, boy. I walked right past him and his friends with the girl. That's good a good end. I'm down to step. But what did I see when I walked down the steps, Jerome?

You didn't see. So initially tries to facade this story. Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassinet. We, I could put it in the Trump, send it to her, bring it back. Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the girl was on the bed. I had on basketball shorts. She had on her uniform pants.

No. She's going to sit. She's been saying this forever. She was in the middle of her? She was in the middle of her. She was C-O She was a C-O. This is the correctional officer.

No, great. She's a directional officer. Okay. So, like, she's sitting, she's facing me, but her legs is like, you know how that go. Jessica comes down and says, she keeps going to say, oh, we was naked. We was not naked. There was no naked. It had been happening.

No. Was she top of it? No. Very much. Oh, my gosh. She's never going to tell the truth. Anyway, she banged the girl. You beat up the girl?

No, she didn't beat up. She banged it. I just, like, popped her up. And I picked her up and walked up and walked up the stairs and threw out of the outside. Broome, you could never lift me. No, you never, no. You know what I'm saying? She never wants to, she never wants to admit the truth.

Hold on the field couldn't fight? No, I don't know if she could fight or not, but she, I hit her one time and then she got up and then she put on her uniform and went and left, went upstairs and she left. I guess the truth is not, I promise you, I wish it was iPhones and cameras. No, I didn't fight you. And then my son was not in no portable nothing. He was on the floor on a blanket and the cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him. This is a cold-faced line, go. Check this out.

My basement has cement under the carpet. So I would never lay my, I wouldn't even lay on the floor. Y'all been arguing about this for 11 years. But let me have to be in line. She was drunk out of her mind, and I'm trying to figure out of home. First of I was just getting off of work, just get up a work. Just get a goddamn lie. I had a job.

You did not just get off work. You was fired at that time. No, I got fired right after that. I was working at McDonald's. That's what I was stealing. I was still overnight. This is good. This is so much greater of love.

And then if I was drinking, okay, I was drinking. I was drinking all the job, but I was at work. So, and then I came to get my son. No, you did not come get your son because it was my weekend. So what I would just come? Until Monday from daycare. Why would you come in? No, he was coming to be nosy.

I didn't have to come to me. I was like, she had a passenger with her. If you coming to get your son, Nicole, yep. She, I went out and I don't like Nicole either because she should have told your ass go home. 11 years, you still don't like that's my dog. So how did you push the window? How did you break the window? Man, she had that's up with her hand.

So you walked out, seen this car. No. Oh, she, I threw her ass out. You never, Jerome, you was not that strong. Like, you did not throw me, nowhere. I'm gonna tell you, I had you, and it was steps. You jazzy Jeff, go. Oh.

Yeah, that, right there. He could never, ever, even right now could not do that. Why you hit the window, though? Why you hit the car? Because she, she, because I was just really, really mad because he wouldn't give me my son. She's a line. You wouldn't give me my son. You called the police?

I never called the police on him? Yeah, I didn't call the police? I don't know how to jail. I went to jail? I went to jail? I went to jail at night. Pause, pause. Listen, whole, I need everybody hear this.

Where I'm from, the jail is right there. Right around the corner. You're going to walk. It's two minutes. They heard the commotion. They walked to us. I don't know how they came. He called the police on me.

And then going, and then when the police came, I was, I just sat in my car. I was mad. I was like, no, I came over here to get my son. Nicole did tell me, yo, come on, let's pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He's not giving you the baby. I was like, all right, cool. But I was mad, so I didn't pull off.

Police paddy wagon pulled up and got out. and you was like she right there she right there and she didn't pull off yet how did I try to get how did I try to get you locked up

when I'm the same one called trying to bail you out with no money I don't know why you ever thought you could bill somebody out with no money

I ain't sleep that night you're trying to get out you put her in jail and trying to bail out you ever went through a woman phone of course could you eat

after that yes you could well I couldn't I'm comparing that to when she went to jail I couldn't eat I couldn't sleep

you know and I was sick I was sick I didn't I didn't want her in jail why the fuck I call the police so now when you hear this story and you say to yourself why they there on national co-parent day because they are like the best of friends now they call each other just calls you her brother

how do you feel about that how did y'all get there do you look at her like your sister but you said mama I was gonna say what she said you created that yeah like my mother won't like when we're out of town and shit I'm like my mother now ain't gonna disclose too much but

she thinks she's my mother No, I just know She likes to control Like she know how I am though Like me and I'm a loner I think part of that controlling part is like She cares And sometimes

Especially when I'm under the influence I've done dumb ass shit So That's good did you know that You can admit that Yeah I've done dumb ass shit We're just assist in the back Mm-hmm mm-hmm

Everybody like you know Everybody know But I hold myself accountable To that mind you know I ain't gonna say I learned for one mistake Because I didn't did a dumb ass shit over and over again

But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother, the mother with the V, come in. But the brother, I call him me brother and sister, like, honestly, without the child, like, it's there, it's seen, like, cameras on, cameras off. Like, you can't fake this or make this shit up. Oh, yeah, Rome started that. Rome started calling me sis first, and then I started calling him, bro. I, you know, I'm like, yeah, we do have, like, a sibling dynamic in some way, you know.

He's still confides in my mom. He, like, my mom is our mother. It's not, it ain't nothing crazy. There's nothing intimate. Like, seriously, I always say this. People be like, yeah, right. I can literally walk past this. And I don't do this.

I'm saying, I can walk past this man naked. And he does, he be like, girl, what? Like, I'm talking about seriously. Like, it's not. Each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend. Like, how do you deal with his girl? And how do you deal with- Ron?

She told us you had 17 baby mamas. Five. Five. Okay. I never told you he had no damn. I thought you said like me. I said five. and shit

It's cool though It's cool I get it I say a five But this This is This is the Friction part

Now we got over that But this The friction part Was I'm on my bend I'm getting her But the friction part Was her Getting into

Mines But she's still a woman I'm still a man Yeah So women tend to do that And this is not No shame to Women

I don't mean No disrespect By saying But I think Women tends to Do that Especially a woman That care about you

What she said Sometimes you make Bad decisions And she's there As your sister To make sure you good Regardless Regardless if it's life, relationship, or whatever.

Correct. She said that on that. With me personally, I never really, like, I talk to about certain things, but I never really like my family to get into no intimate situation. Yeah. Because guess what? Y'all can feel away about this person, however you I want, whether it's negative or good. If I'm going to deal with this person, I'm going to deal with her.

Like, the female can smack shit out me yesterday. Mm-mm. I might get over it and fucking them up. Mm-mm. But it's like, that's why I always, that's how I was always, able to distinguish the two. Like when Jessica will have men. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together

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When she come to me like, I don't never, like, I ain't never pillow talking or sneak disson or nothing. Like, I don't really care for, like, it ain't enough in a shit to have that I don't if you put it in that sense. But when she come to me with a man, I tell her, I ain't right. But both of y'all got to care, though, because you're going to want to know who around your son, she's going to want to know who about her son. I never, I never, so

in the beginning stage, yeah, don't have this my son up right, right. I grew out of that. So now it's, I trust my child mom enough to, she won't bring no bad shit around my child. Right. So I don't say, oh, don't have this around my shit. That's never been a problem. What has been a problem was envy me

except for my last dog Yeah, my dog Who's the dog? Who's the dog? My dog, Chris, okay, so he's my dog It's my dog I ain't gonna hold you, I think he's the I think, like me, honestly me and Jess man I think it's been times where a woman

Didn't like me and her situation But guess what? Bye Yeah, more so Yeah, it'll be more so on his end because it's much more of them But the thing is Yeah, the thing is like I don't like when

Because I even tell him when he's doing wrong too Like, yo, don't chew her like that This is now how are you going Introduce me to her now I'm got to know her You know and whether she had a kid or not Most of the time is the ones that have the kids But it's like, yo, you've got to Do right or just be single

Like don't keep hurting women in the process Of trying to find what you're looking for I mean, I know that's all a part of dating, but when you have kids, it's different, you know, and then he'd be like, oh, that's why I don't like you to be getting into it, you know, and then I don't like, he attracts a lot of toxic women, too, like abusive relationships where women will put their hands on them.

I'm like, what? Yeah, all right, you know, but he don't, he's like, no, but I might be fucking wooded them all. What? She just blacked your eye. What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? Like, no, we're not doing it, but. Claire, I never had a black eye.

Okay, well, she bust her nose. whatever. Women have put their hands on you and you be all right with it. And that's why she's my dog. Like, I think she's the only one really honestly to want to get the fuck under my skin. Like, a certain wordplay she used.

And I don't care what tone she uses in. But to say that, it's like, Rer was really never taught how to love. When I moved my dad, I moved my dad and my stepmom, which is my mom now. Me and my mom have a great relationship. That's my stepmom. And my dad was married.

But my dad was cheating. Same. Like, my dad was shit, but my dad's showing me that. Bro, like, I'm thinking cool. So, like, even when I started dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and all that, my dad was like, yeah, son, uh, uh, uh. Absolutely. And I'm thinking it's cool.

Because that's what you're being taught. That's what I'm seeing. That's what I'm being taught. Like, and every man in my life that I looked at as a role model of me was the same way. Same. So it's like, What you expect. But the good thing is now is like I'm old enough now.

Mind you, I ain't perfect now. I'm seeing it. I'm trying to, you know, change it. But I've never was taught to love properly. So, and I never, my trust issues is fucked up from my dad. Because I'm seeing what he's doing. But I'm saying when it's done to him, his reactions. Like, damn, my n-uh, you were just doing this.

How are you going to get mad? Right. So it's like every relationship I've went into, I had an expiration date. Me. I put an extra reading on myself. I said, she's going to get what I'm getting, I'm gone. So I never really gave a woman the... Commitment?

Not even commitment, but I never gave the woman a chance to really love me. But even with the kids? Like, even having kids with other women? No, I haven't. And this is, like I said, no distract to my children. Moms, a lot of my children came out of vulnerability. Explain, found on that. And I'm explaining that.

So I will meet a woman who I may feel like she is what I need, another safe place or whatever the case may be, but I'm already vulnerable from her. previous relationship. I have a child. Knowing I don't want to be with this woman, but I feel like I'm forced to be with it because it's a child.

And I've done that, you know, multiple times. Multiple times. You needed a therapist, not another baby model. Correct. Yeah. At the time of need, at the time of vulnerability, you know, women, you know, women

can, they be masked up. But like, I never really knew how to be alone. Like, I feel like I got to have somebody laying next to me. Because even before my mom died, my mommy was sleeping naked. This is a back then thing. How old were you when your mother passed? I was 10, but I was a mommy's boy.

Did you ever, Dan, did you ever really properly grieve? No. So, grieving? No. I never really grieved. All I did was, I thought it was going to help me by going to school for social work because that's what she was. But I never really properly grieve.

And that's a process now. I do want to get, you know, back in the gym. I do want to get a therapist, but I want everything else around me to be intact so that I could fully commit. because if I ain't fully committed, it ain't going to work. How did y'all, that's the most, I don't want to say most important, but one of the most important things, how did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other no more?

Like, how did that just go away? Like, y'all have, y'all love each other, but not that way. I got my answer. You want to go first? You can go first, for sure, because I'm still thinking. When I stopped caring about who she dealt with. Oh. When I wouldn't even, like, I wouldn't even care.

Mm-hmm. Like, how would that take? Oh, three years. Oh, like when I actually. was like three. Yeah, it was still, like, really, um, yeah. It was like three years, but at that, but honestly, that three years, like, I had caught a big check.

So it was like, you know, I was almost half a million dollars. So it was like, the pain that I had, whatever the case would be, I would, I would pay, I was like, just buy it, block it out. But other than that, like, you didn't try to stun on her a little bit? No, I never, no, I never, no, I never. I'm waiting for that. I never intentionally stunting on her. I never did that.

Never. Okay. I did everything she possibly could ask me to do. She said on one of these souls, something about a BGE bill, and I'm going to address that. That was on our show. That was on co-parents and A recordless.

I'm going to address that now. What bill? That's an electric bill, right? So, I'm going to explain it. Her lights got cut off. You've got a $500,000 check, and you like that? Listen, no, it wasn't right then and there. Okay.

But it's over time because, mind you, like, mind you, a lot of my place, she helped me get a lot on the back end. But in the time, like, I helped her, whatever the case. I didn't know she's moving with a man. I didn't move with a man. Well, she moved the man in with her. Yeah, after. All right, okay.

So he had you in the dark, too? No. This is before I met him. I don't get in her business, so I don't know that he's not there. So, boom, here's my logic. And I'm going to say what I'm going to say to her after I explain it. My logic was, all right, man is in the house. Boom.

Bejee, he got off. So she's like, well, I'm like, well, I take my son with me. but that wasn't me talking that was the girlfriend I had talking oh shit you didn't tell me that I never told you that because as a woman you ain't trying to hear that and as a man

and you being me I don't want to hear that so I didn't want to tell you that because I'd have felt less of a man unball your fist just so yeah so but not something I understand them if somebody else is smacking the cheeks you pay that bill so the girlfriend was like so the girlfriend was like

don't talk about no house so listen no go ahead so the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount of money out of the bank. I did. She was with me. She like, why are you giving it to Jessica? I'm like, because she needed.

And she like, oh, that's why I'm here. I never said the reason. I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah. I never said the reason, though. She was like, what exactly do she need? Because I know you ain't giving her no, she don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no, it's something else.

She's like, well, don't she got a n-a-living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking at the time. You're taking the same thing. I'm like... You weren't even thinking that until she said it. I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking. And I'm like, you know what? You're right.

Why you ain't asked Jess, though? Crazy. All right, you need to pick the phone and say, Jess, what's up what you do? Because I was a young, emotional boy. Who had just ran into a bunch of money, and a bunch of bitches with that. No, that's, my shit, I'm hurt. My hurt young man got a lot of money. Everybody has fucked me over.

I got some money. I'm doing the fucking one. They'll make myself happy. Yeah. And that's how I'm that going broke. Everybody except me. Except her. You feel?

Except her. Except her. So that was what I was like, and granted, right now, I won't a day. I'm going to say I truly, sincerely apologize for not taking care of you the way I should have. And I'm going to take my glasses off. Because for a long time, that shit hurt me. And it's like, I never, ever, ever, especially you, I never, ever, ever meant to do that to you. And it's like now, that's why I even, I work so hard today and just try to even.

and just give you something. But in due time, that shit come back. I ain't, you know, I'd have made that shit back, went back, went broke again. But my biggest downfall, the common denominator was alcohol and women. Them two problems never allowed me to really reach my full potential.

Even when I seen it a couple years ago, you've seen it, 2019, when I was single, when I went moved back by myself, I ran that my fuck up. Flourish. But, there'd be women holding me back, man. Ran this is somebody. I'm sorry that.

I didn't do what I was supposed to do. And a lot of my shit, that wasn't your job, I felt that I was my dude. But because I had certain people in my ear that I thought had their best interests in me, but when that bag ran out, they left, I'm sorry.

And I'm not a sorry person. I apologize. Okay, I appreciate that. But listen, I was not, I was talking to an, he moved in months after. You think a, he was going to move into a dark house? You think I wanted to see how I was living? No.

And when you said, I asked you like, yo, can you just get my lights on? I'll pay you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all that shit. That got slow too. So I'm like, all right, you was like, no, I'd take my son. Nobody's taking my kid, not even as far as. Like, as long as Ash wasn't scared of the dark, we was good.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I still had candles. We was playing. We was doing all that. We would stay outside. That turned you up a notch. Until it went, until it got dark and then we were going to house. He didn't ever ask me why the lights ain't coming on. It don't matter. So as long as he was good, was good. I just wanted to be able

to call your baby, you know what I'm saying? And just be like, yo, get my life's back home for me. And you should have. But guess what? That made you a demon. And when I say demon, I say in the best way, that turned you up. And I got to tell you teaching my kids, especially my oldest boy, my 11 year old, bro. Like, I don't want you to have to go through something bad to learn

a lesson. Right. I don't think everybody should have to go through something bad and learn a lesson. But in your case, I feel like, yeah, that put that battery in your back. And no, when that battery came in your back, you mean, It ain't treat me no way It took still a minute For us to create that bond

Yeah But y'all have it now And I think y'all both should give each other Some grace Because y'all was dumb Yeah, correct Yeah, right And I always was a hurt young man

So, correct But I love the story Because it shows the foundation And how all now Yeah And how y'all are now And how y'all treat each other now You know, I don't know you

But the way she talks about you On the radio And like you said She is a mother She protects you, she holds you down I just love to see it Yeah No, sometimes I'd be telling the stuff

talking about room like that he always did but it's like why you be talking about but I get it she don't mean no harm by no she don't like I said man like I wish a lot of people would take from us and that's why this got to be on TV that's why y'all writing the book yeah book coming everything coming yeah everything coming yeah you have it the most important thing because I want you all to save a lot of this but what's the most important thing it takes the co-parent if y'all just leave leave it on that because it's national co-parenting day you know I think I start It's about. Communication, like a lot of people be scared to hurt each other, feelings, and a lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's about kids, unhashed differences, whatever.

Like, one day, me and Rome just literally met up and just, we just talked about everything that, you know, he felt like I did him wrong in certain situations, and then he felt like, like, I would always try. Because he says, I'm controlling a lot, and I do take that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I own that. I did. Like, I was trying to control how he parents sometimes, like, how he would raise ash and all of that type of stuff. We just put everything on the table and just, just was like, all right, you're moving forward because it's really about ash. And that's really like when we, after that, it was like, no looking back. It's like, all right, whatever. Cool.

I'm sure it's a discussion that'll continue on, not even just amongst, you know, Jess and Rome, but just amongst anybody out there, you know, dealing with co-parenting issues. But I think Rome, you know, Rome is talking to a lot of different issues that a lot of us men go through, you know what I mean? So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning. That's right. You know what I mean? And their book is coming soon via Black Privilege Publishing, Simon & Schuester.

I love you more, sis. All right. Well, it's Rome. Yes. The breakfast club, good morning. It's time for a positive note what we got. Positive note is simply this, man. Be careful what you wish for others because it just might get to you, all right?

To wish bad things for somebody else is actually like looking. for something bad to happen to you. Because when you wish bad karma on somebody else, you bring bad karma on yourself, okay? You are consuming and bringing in negative vibes into your life. Instead, be the person you wish they were. Be the person who brings only positive thoughts and good vibes into their own life.

Because being negative yourself will only bring negative into your life. Don't poison yourself hoping somebody else will die. All right? Breakfast club, bitches. We don't finish or y'all done. Woke up, wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1.

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