The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Jagged Edge, New Edition and Boyz II Men, 112, Total and Case Interview)

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

Best of 2025- Best of the 90’s - Jagged Edge, New Edition and Boyz II Men, 112, Total and Case Interview. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnyst...udio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 gentleman's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. It doesn't matter how much I fight. Doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened. in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I said, it was y'all 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue?
Starting point is 00:01:14 This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law until we came together to take him down. I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. I got you, I got you, I got you. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I got you. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us. the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Game must untangle a dangerous past, one that could
Starting point is 00:02:34 destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Boat up. Wake you up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeartRadio. Good morning, USA!
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. What's up, Jess, Larry. Salomon to God. Peace to the planet is Friday. That's right. And today's Friday is the best of the 90s. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:03:07 That's our era right there. You know, I was born in 1978. So the 90s is when, you know, that was our error. That's when we was outside, outside. I should say the R&B 90s, because today on this show, we have 112 total case, jagged edge, new addition and boys to men. Now, 112 total and case are going on tour together. New edition and boys de men are going on tour together.
Starting point is 00:03:27 That's right And Jagged has just got off tour They just wrapped up their tour With Lloyd and Eric Bellinger Listen, classic shows From classic artists artists who have stood to test the time All right
Starting point is 00:03:37 So all you uncles and aunties Gather around And listen to the breakfast club this morning That's right So don't go anywhere It's the breakfast club Good morning This is your time to get it off your chest
Starting point is 00:03:48 800585105151 We want to hear from you On the breakfast club Hello who's this Yo What a DJ Heavy What's up? Charlamane the guy.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Peace, King. Peace with Jeff. Hey. Hey, some people got a shout before they had their Uber. Not even something. Everybody. I'm telling you, Mustie ain't no joke, bro. Nah, these two girls, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:09 and I understand you got your own separate situations, but you hop in my car, and immediately the car is just filled up with these fumes. And I got to hold my breath through the car line. Nah. Nothing worse than a stink woman, man. I'm going to be honest with you. Men are allowed to, you know, have an older,
Starting point is 00:04:24 even though I don't like it, but man, when a woman musty, Yeah, it's different. But you know what? It does up too. But you can't leave no reviews for the riders. They leave reviews for y'all. You can't review a driver.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Some of these cars think too, though. Like, sometimes you get an open to smell too, though. Yeah, because of the people. That's what you said, because the shit just got out. Like, that's the thing. Now, he got to quit the, well, you know, take a break to go get the car wash. Now, and the crazy thing is they tried to have a conversation with me, you know, and I played it off like, oh, how long you been going to go in your dread?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh, like, a couple years. You know what I'm saying? like not trying to wrap a little conversation, you know what it is? You got to keep a podcast on deck, a podcast about bacterial vaginosis, a podcast about, you know, being musty and just be playing it. You know what I'm saying? Just like playing loud and hope that they get the hint. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Hey, but love y'all. Y'all. You have a good morning. Love you too, man. You too, man. I'm telling you, man, musty woman is just, like, remember last week? It was a room full of people in here. And I go, it smelled like outside.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Somebody smelled like outside. Everybody started sniffing His name is Mind you ain't nobody was outside Nobody That's so nasty I'm like oh gosh I was scared to look around
Starting point is 00:05:35 Like damn Hello Hello who's this Yo Envi you know the Vox Melo What the word bro? Melo what's popping What you've been Melo? Hello
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yo life is amazing It is what it should be How y'all doing? Jeff up with Charlotte L.L. Cube Peace peace Peace Peace
Starting point is 00:05:49 Peace Peace All right So I gotta get this off my chest And I'm the perfect person To talk about it So we got to start shaming these men
Starting point is 00:05:57 For getting their body done like these bad bitches I'm tired of it, though Like, because let's the record show I'm on the record talking about The BBOs being booty and baby legs I don't know mention the kids You're sticking in the attention between me and the NYPD Word
Starting point is 00:06:13 But like Booty and baby legs is a bar mellow That's funny Yep I'm telling you, but hear me out You can't be out here with the stomach of John Tuna and the chest of Coyloray. I don't want you to mention her.
Starting point is 00:06:25 She's beautiful. We love her, but Drake, stop it, bro. Say some names, Mello. Say some names. He just said one. I thought it. Drake, French Montana. Who else?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Tiger? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's fake or not, but it do look stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh, Tiger. And let the rest of the fake abs. I would be 300 pounds, bro. Like, I'm not on the car, 200. I've really been with y'all from thick ends. thin, no for that. Like, you feel me? Like, nah, you can work it out. Like, you know what I mean? I'm somewhere between dad bod and beanbacked chair. I used to be a bag of 30 laundry,
Starting point is 00:07:03 you know what I mean? You know what God gave you, you? You feel me? God don't make no mistake. I agree. It feels like the abs are going through what BBLs went through. Like BBL used to look really, really stupid. And then they got better over time. That's how abs, abs on men, will probably look in the future. Yeah. I understand that, but at the same Sometimes, as a man, you should not be wanting to lay on the table untarned this. Oh, I agree. And then get up, act like you put in the work. I'm not with that.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I understand, Mella. Well, thank you, Mello. Any song. All right, Mella. Hello, who's this? This is Rico from that time. Rico, we don't want you. How are you, sir?
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm good, man. How are you, Charlie, man? I'm blessed black and highly favored, man. Get it off your chest. Hey, I just wanted to call about the day and dad's interview. Okay. Talk to me. I thought it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I did too. I enjoyed it. When you go through life, you realize that some people we just don't take serious, and damn bads is one of the people. I don't disagree with you. I just don't disagree with you. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-105-1. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:08:11 This is your time to get it off your chest. Chief calling. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Monica. Hey, Monica. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Peace, Monica. I cannot believe I'm talking to you guys. I can't believe it. But today is my birthday. I turned 52. And so I just want to say, happy birthday to myself. Well, happy birthday. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But thank you, guys. This is a great present for me because I've always tried to get through. And so today, I finally got through. Well, thank you. Happy Boynd Day. What's you doing anything special to celebrate? Are you did this weekend? I did it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm going to do it this weekend. My husband has flying me to L.A. to see my steps on perform. Ooh, what's your steps on performing? He is a sango. He's a DJ. Okay, that's dope. I'm happy to hear that.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yes, so thank you guys. Yeah, go out to L.A. Enjoy some good weather, get some good weed or something. You know what I mean? Maybe some edibles. Enjoy your birthday, Mom. Let your husband toss your legs in the air one time. You heard so bad.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Have a good, Monica She sounded like she's going to be in this. He's Monica. Hey, Tayaisha. Hey, how are you? We've seen you on hold for two damn hours. I just have to look at the phone. Why?
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I'm like, what the hell? What's going to Tysia? What are you on home? Well, first of all, I'm at the group home with my girls, so I was really, I was on hold, but I still was doing my job too. Salute everybody at the group home. What group home you're calling from?
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm not going to say, but we didn't say in New Carolina. Okay. California. Well, this was getting off your chest. I'm from Jersey. Okay. So I would like to get this off my chest today. I just want to say that better days are coming. Today
Starting point is 00:10:01 will be the fifth year that my husband has been going. So my grandfather died on the fourth and my husband died on the 9th. They both died from COVID five years ago. Oh, man. I hate it. Sorry. So, yeah, just plan for better days and just for those who do have
Starting point is 00:10:17 grandparents and parents and husbands, just love them to the best of y'all. because life is definitely short. I know before we used to say life is short, but after COVID, life is really, really shorter than what we expected to be. Yeah. Man, I love your attitude on life. I love your attitude.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You're calling from a group home. You've dealt with all of that loss, but you still are telling people and encouraging yourself that, you know, there's going to be a better tomorrow. That's right. Yeah. And I want to give a big tie to my mom, which is in Jersey City right now. She's battling with breastpins, so that's my last parent living.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And I do go back and forth because, you know, I got to maintain my house and the stuff here, but my mom comes before any of that. But she knows the situation. And just to go back and forth and having her deal with what she's dealing with is hard because medical sensor ain't worth nothing. So that was a, they could get the donkey of the monks. How about that? But other than that, I just want to shout out Cheryl Williams and just tell you, Mom, I love you. And I know that you're going through something right now.
Starting point is 00:11:20 but we all just praying for better days to come. Absolutely. Well, thank you, Taisha. All right, y'all have a good one. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105.151. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Salarious. Charlemagne de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lonlerosa is hanging with us today as well. And we got some special guests in the building.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Ladies and gentlemen, Jagenedge. Welcome to you. All your brother's doing. That's good. You all in a minute. It's been a minute, man. Growing up a little bit. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I always like to say this is one of the groups that y'all guys don't break up at all, huh? No, we don't know. But how? We see every R&B group, there's always a breakup. There's always an all right. How do y'all stay so tight? Man, we like each other. I mean, half the group is us.
Starting point is 00:12:12 We love each other. A little easier that way. But you're brothers is the one that be fighting. No, no. We'd be on the same page. Absolutely, man. I always like to start from the beginning when you guys come here. So how did y'all guys form the group for people that don't know?
Starting point is 00:12:28 How did Jagged Edge form? All right. Whoever wanted to take this? Well, me and my brother was... In the womb. You know what I'm saying? In the womb. Pott is the day wasn't.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But we had this group when we first got to Atlanta. You know, we was about 15 years old. Not when we first got. out there, but when we first started singing. And it was two other guys, and we sang at this church picnic. Kyle was at the church picnic. He came to us at the church, but he said, listen, man, I got a group.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Why don't y'all drop the other two and come get with it? He didn't have a group. He didn't have a group, but we didn't know that, though. We used to see Kyle arrived anyway, because me and him was basketball players, and his cousin was playing on our team. So we knew each other from that and passing,
Starting point is 00:13:17 and then once we actually sat down and talked, And we realized he could sing two. We put it together. It was another member at first. And he fizzed without somewhere along the way. And we've been together ever since. Since we've about 15, I know we've been in his group. Now, what did the name come from?
Starting point is 00:13:34 The name came from, if y'all remember, think back to, I think, I want to say like 91, 92, was a group came out of Atlanta called a few good men. They were signed to LaFace. Yep. So just the name of their group got me looking at movie titles. During this time, I happened to be at Candy House, right? And she had all these movies, like, all these, just, you know, roles of movies. And I started looking at the movies, and when I seen the movie Jagged Ed,
Starting point is 00:14:00 it's almost like it jumped out, like, hey, you know what I mean? And so I said to them, and everybody was like, yeah. Like, not one person pushed back. Everybody was like, yeah, that's a dope man. And this was after y'all were already signed to Sussodaf. No, no, this is work. So you had a relationship with Candy before? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Only like a year, like a year prior to us signed. Okay, and what was the relationship? Was it just like music stuff or like, how did you? Well, Wingo went to school with Candy. They was in high school together. We graduated the same class. So when we did our demo, he had, took it to Candy House just playing it for just like, you know, getting her approval.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Wasn't even trying to get a deal or nothing. She liked it so much. She was like, she called Wingham one day like, you're still in that group? Y'all still trying to get a deal? He was like, yeah, so we made the deal with Candy. If you get us a deal, you can manage us. She got us a deal. So she was our first manager once we signed.
Starting point is 00:14:47 She gets to the money and the business side, though. How was she as a manager in the early days? I mean, she was getting her feet with us. But I'll always tell anybody, like, as far as being an active artist and trying to manage, you know, manages somebody's like having kids.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Right. You know what I mean? You got to be up for them, 5.30 phone calls, and it's just a lot. You know what I mean? And also, too, shout out to Tiny, too, because she was just as instrumental without Tiny.
Starting point is 00:15:14 She was, like, the direct link to JD on the business side. You know what I mean? So without her, we would have happened as well. How instrumental was Jermaine Dupree with y'all now? Like, do y'all still, like, call him about music, you know, for all the original parts, volume one, I know. I mean, you know, Jemaine, he, that's our guy forever.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But as much as I love Jemain, I hit Jemaine about all kinds of shit, but, you know, it's rough to get Jemaine do something. Right. If he ain't a part of it, you know what I'm saying? I've had a tough time getting his involvement. and things that he wasn't really spearheading. Honestly, Jermaine is why we are writers and producers. Well, at least producers.
Starting point is 00:15:54 We was always writers. But through dealing with him, we're not like, you can't just put us on the backburn. We're not, you know what I mean? You can't tie our hands. You can't. So we figured out how to go make beats ourselves. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Learn how to play the keys ourselves. Learn how to do this stuff. So he's a big reason why. I'm not saying in a negative way. Just understanding that it takes more than just one man to stop what we're trying to do. Absolutely. And one thing about us, man, we're not petty.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know what I'm saying? We kind of respect the blessings. He took a chance with us, man. He took a chance, so we respect the blessing and keep it moving, but we was already a self-contained group. He was already writing. It was already what we're going to wear on the show, so we really didn't need anything but the money, I guess.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And a big of that's a bunch of monies. We need nothing but everything. But we're self-contained. But yeah, but much love of JD, like, you know, we just knows a lot of bashing when it's, comes up. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, we ain't doing that. And when did you leave Social Def? And why? We actually, Social Def left us.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You know, he had a situation with Columbia. They couldn't get on the same pace. So he left and went to, what did he go? The Ariscer first, right? So he went to Arista. And Columbia basically told him, like, if you want them, you don't have to pay for a football team. And Jeddy was like, I don't want them that bad. I didn't make me Right Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:18 They didn't let them take us and buy So we wanted to go But you know what I mean Wasn't in the cars at the time So when y'all left at that time That's when it completely stopped He never said I'm not writing for y'all producer
Starting point is 00:17:31 Because y'all weren't on the label at that time No We got back together with Jame Two different times We went to We went to Def Jam with Jame And then we did an album E2 with Jem
Starting point is 00:17:42 So yeah I mean we've, you know, the music game in itself is a complicated business. And I think, you know, keeping your relationships tight is something that you have to do. But at the same time, if you can't get on the same page with somebody, you have your own goals
Starting point is 00:17:57 and your own dreams, and that's what you got to follow. You know what I mean? And that's what we did. Yeah. Knowing that y'all's felt like, let's get married and promised and all that. Like, how does that feel to denote it? I just saw a video that went viral where somebody had proposed to that girl And they had me a second, I can't have to get married.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Did y'all see that? What are y'all reactions from the other than it being funny and they should have picked somebody else? Like, knowing that that still hit life. It's love, man. I love it. It's an amazing feeling like, you know, we talked about this other day. Like, we definitely didn't get us to be a one-hit wonder, right?
Starting point is 00:18:34 And we definitely wanted to have a career that was filled with longevity. So when you see things like that, you realize you don't hit your mark a little bit. You know what I mean? But we ain't done, though, but, yeah, it feels good, though. So in an interview, Beyonce Dad, like, threw y'all off of a tour bus? What happened with that? Man, how did that be it was. You know, it's so amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Like, when it happened, somebody said to us, y'all going to be talking about this for the rest. And they was damn right. Like, y'all still be talking about it. I don't know what happened. So basically, we was on tour with Destiny Child. And at the time, Matthew was our manager. So we was sharing a tour bus, us and Desy Child. We all on one tour bus.
Starting point is 00:19:11 was that bus. It was his. It was 12. And so, you know, I think it's probably well documented that LaToya has had different issues. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Joltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
Starting point is 00:19:33 We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's Attorney General is suing a Nashville doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic. in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.
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Starting point is 00:21:03 I said through your two times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to help is the one you're the most afraid of. This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence.
Starting point is 00:21:35 This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together. to take him down. I told Roger Galuski, I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:21:56 or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know? What's this? Where is that?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From smartless media, campside media, and big money players comes crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoval, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfish is a city?
Starting point is 00:22:40 and meet some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has X-ray vision. How could I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household. two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind, and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.
Starting point is 00:23:50 The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. with you know the crew um this particular night letoya's mom was on the road miss pam shout out miss pam right and miss pam obviously had issues with the crew so matthew called even though he wasn't in the city he called back to the role manager like you know
Starting point is 00:24:22 miss pam ain't getting on that bus right and we was like well we're not leaving her out in the middle of louise right so she is going to get on the bus that dude had the police called on us had us So you're all getting off the bill. You're all getting up to do you. So, yeah, I mean, but, you know, we just felt like whatever the issue is, it can't be that serious that you're going to leave somebody out here. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And you're not even here. And you're not even here. It was somebody, mom, man. If it was your mom, right, I'm saying, we'll just do it the same way. Come on, man, I'm right. Hey, man, you know, we're from the South. And, you know, we're mama.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, so we kind of felt that like, man, we're mama's boys and we had a obligation, but we wanted to to work Matthew. Hey. by the bathroom at one of your concerts we're going to add your ass out so shots out to Matthew for not going by that bathroom
Starting point is 00:25:10 because you were dating Latavia at the time, Brandon, and then, so she told the story in a radio station, she was saying that you stuck up for the group, like you were the one about to go off so you was at the bathroom. Well, we all did, but I definitely went in the room with the girls. You know, I just seen it, like I said,
Starting point is 00:25:27 like if it was my mother, it would have been worse than that. Like, I would have turned, it would have got nasty and ugly. So I didn't want it to go that far. So I tried to have a conversation with the girls. I couldn't talk to Matthew. He didn't make himself available. But, you know, I tried to make the other girls who, you know, was in the group with Latoya, you know, support her.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And they all just kind of let me know that they had different issues with Latoya and her mother. And that's why it was this bad. And even to be fair to them, because I talked to Kelly about this after that. And it got to a point where she even felt like, well, at this point, it's out of my hands. Once Matthew took control of it, they didn't feel like they even had much of a say anyway. So, you know what it is? I did want to ask, too.
Starting point is 00:26:07 They used to put 112 against you guys, right? Absolutely. And it was a thing. Was it ever a beef or was it just always fun? It was Charlemagne did it, man. You know what, man? It was never a real beef. Like, I don't know how many people known this,
Starting point is 00:26:24 but them guys, like, brothers, stuff. Yeah, that's how many. Like, out of all the male groups, we've been on shows, with or just been around or in our era, I should say. One-12 is our closest friend. So, yeah, it was never a real beef, but it got a little testy at all right. At what point in, what happened?
Starting point is 00:26:39 What was the reason? When he's coming back from a tour we was on, and we was pulling into the city, me and Kyle was together. Y'all kicked them out the bus this time? We just heard them on the radio talking some trash, and me and Kyle just being a beeline in where they was at. I'll take him out of my brains.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It was just me and here. We knew how four was there. We didn't even care. We just ready to do whatever it had to be done. What did they say that was that bad? They were doing something. They were doing something. They were doing something like,
Starting point is 00:27:10 how could Jagget be the best group? They got two, they only got two lead singers, a cheerleader and a Rara man. And I said, hey, wow. I'm the Rara. You know, that's about you.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Me and that guy went up there on a mission. Nothing happened. Like, nothing happened about. Who was supposed to be the cheerleader? Man, it wasn't. I guess it was. I guess. And I honestly think, like, Ryan, because they was trying to pick,
Starting point is 00:27:36 they was really trying to put us on tour together. So Ryan was trying to create something to, like, to drive the traffic. But you can't do it without telling us. So he was taking the piss to everything they was doing. We did talk back really good. You know what I mean? But y'all wouldn't say that when we didn't know no way.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, so that's the issue, too. We ain't doing that. How often do people bring up the, uh, the Cisco fight? Oh, shit. Oh, that. He spared that man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What happened?
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was in the dress room messing around. He didn't put that boy in the head. Y'all know Cisco, you know how to do some flips in there. Here we were you trying to do something about how you say you up top, I had to son him. It wasn't about nothing. It wasn't about nothing. It wasn't a little messing around.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, right. And it ended up getting, you know, it would put out you play to them. I guess he didn't know I guess he didn't know getting serious Cowlinson's kind of playing He said you what you
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah yeah he was getting Well well he was actually I was chilling Right And I ain't I ain't for the do-all I wasn't the aggressor Okay
Starting point is 00:28:43 But I won't with the bulls either like hey man chill out And if you can It's on the video All right chill out If you can see I'm like Yo man chill out And he was trying to like
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh man I'm losing this You gotta lose you You gotta lose you He didn't throw that one I didn't throw no punt I didn't throw him He wasn't really doing them dirty
Starting point is 00:28:58 I was like, y'all have been to fop in the walk out. I live fared and that by this stuff, both of them. And me and him was already gone. They were already going, so we're gone. So, y'all squads all your father. Oh, man. It's just a hard. It's so R&B.
Starting point is 00:29:13 You know what I'm? You know what I mean? Quiet as it's kept, we f***ed all the groups. Some of them have had issues with us. So we've got to be everybody. Straight up. I got respect for all of them. All of them.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So what is going to be? What can we? expect different from all original parts like where did that title come from you and just for the record y'all know they're not bumping this in no trans disco all original parts no you're stupid i don't know who made that you know she's not that's hilarious you're you're crazy no doubt that's too funny that was a good one that was a good one it just signifies the fact that since groups have been a thing right They've all broken up.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah. You know what I mean? And Jackson's broke up. Even the Jackson's broken. Right. So, you know, us being the one group who's never broken up, we wanted to kind of capitalize on that. That's why it's called All Original Park.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I love that. I remember when y'all made some of those classic records, and do y'all know they were going to be smashes as soon as you made it? Like, when you made, let's get married. You made promise. Did y'all know, like, oh, this is going to be it? We did, kind of. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Like, you know, even when you look at songs like, he can't love you, right? Every song we ever put out, we understood what it should be doing. Like, we understood the only reason to drop he came before Let's Get Married was because he can't sound like nothing on the radio at the time. We knew Leske and Marry was going to be the bigger song. But we knew if you come in a song like this, it sounds like nothing, it's going to make that role for Let's Get Married even bigger and easy.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And it did. And it did what I mean to do. We kind of have been. You got to be that legacy song that when y'all going, your kids going, your kids, kids going. This man was mad that we dropped. He can't love you first. He was like to drop, we're going to stretch. Let's get married.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It just did something to me, you know what? I'm like, what? I'm mad at us and the record level, but y'all want to drop this on a list of race. That's why I never put my opinion on a record like that again. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, I knew he can't love you was super dope.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It was a smash, but let's get married. And I'm, you know, again, I'm one of them anxious guys. You know what I'm saying something. It's the setup. It's about the setup. And promise. Brandon, you wrote that for, Batavia, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:27 No, not for me. He wrote it for me. She said it was different. He said, I wrote it for me. Because I've been feeling this question she did that interview. Listen, we're a team song, we're a songwriting team. No matter what my piece of the song may be about, that don't mean the whole song is about that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Because I think when you're a songwriter, it's not always an exact story. Sometimes it's pieces of a story that you're turning into one story. turning into one story. So, yeah, there was a piece in there about the time. Yeah. Okay. All right, we got more with Jagged Edge when we come back. Let's get into their new joint.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's called Just Might Get It. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, I feel like nowadays, brothers don't beg for the vagina. They don't have to. We never did. The girls don't make them. There you go.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The girls don't make them, man. It's not even that they don't. It's that the girls don't make them no more. He can't love you. You cried for it. It was going to go out of your house. Real tall, yeah. It was just like, you know, you had to lead up
Starting point is 00:32:32 and just like, you know, it was going to take about an hour and a half. He had to work for it. So you were like, hell, press to not let it go. So it's a lot different now. I think that's, you know, it's too much homeboy love out there, man. It's all good to have your...
Starting point is 00:32:47 Homeboy love. Your damn right, the music be about the guys loving their home music. You're doing their home music. I mean, I think all that's necessary. Like, you need your team, right? That's a necessary thing, but you don't want to put too much attention there and then your girl feeling some type of way.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I mean, but you sit in the club. I mean, the VIP section, for the kids. For the girls who are like, back in the day, he used to be. You see, like, everything, because, like, sometimes I see them talking, they were like, man, I'm going to kill these n-knit when I hit the streets. We used to be like, I'm going to kill them when I'm dead. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That's right. That's right. And that's how y'all used to dress back in the day? They used to dress like, what you think of, like, an R&B group, you know, it's nice and, you know, suits and all that silk shirts. Oh, then, you know, you see the top of me coming out of the side. They used to dress like they're about to shoot a Thais game.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And they're nice. Like some thug glove type of stuff. I used to love saying my outfit, sending a video. It's like, all right. Now, you got it to a car racks and we broke your neck. Well, I was in two car races inside of like nine months. Absolutely. The first one, I just broke my leg in two places.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I had some wrist contusions and a knot on my head. And then the second one. What happened in the car? Did you fall asleep? No, I was coming down the street, right? You know how Atlanta, we got all those, you know, do a you turn to turn. So I'm coming this way. It was a car sitting right here.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And I'm knowing he's seen me, I see him. And as I get this close, then he wants to turn. So even though I'd stop my brakes as hard. as I could, I still hit him. He was at fault. Like I said, just towed my car up, told me up. But the next one was really, that's what really meant to be it. Got jackknife.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Tee, they called a T-Bomb. T-bone. Somebody right in the middle of your car. I was sitting down a light. On that accident, I'm sitting down a light. And I hear these shots rang out. Next thing you know, I guess the person who got hit, he lost control of his vehicle and he just swirred right into my vehicle.
Starting point is 00:34:49 On the driver side, his side. I broke my neck. I had five broken ribs on this. side one on this side I got a scalp laceration right here a lot it was a lot with that one I know it's pretty emotional for I saw you on Tamara Hall when you talked about and you got emotional for the rest of you guys when you all heard about the second car accident like what were you guys reactions and like kind of what was that like for y'all as well I was I was I was scared because I didn't know what to it's
Starting point is 00:35:14 you know what I'm gonna keep it real I don't have my license but don't worry about that this man ain't never had a license yeah but that's a car I mean, I mean, my wife was like, you know, my wife was like, you know, but, I mean, you know, my wife was like, you know, once I heard it, I'm like, baby, I got to get out of here. I'm, damn the falling down the steps to get in my Uber. And, but in my mind, I'm just praying. I'm like, Lord, please don't come. I mean, it's such a cliche, like I say to hear about artists, playing, accident.
Starting point is 00:35:54 then motorcycle and then car wrecks. So I'm like, and then it's like, this second one, you know, and so we got up in, when I got there, because I know the other guys are showing up, I seen them and are like, okay, okay, he's not what. But it's still him, he's still him because he won't take a neck brace off.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Right. He's like, I'm gonna take this up. I saw, well, my, good. He cried a couple jokes, but I got there, so I'm like, well, he's going to be out. He was in pain, though. You know, and like, for me, you know, it was the worst day of my life.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I ain't gonna lie to you, because the way I heard, the car, somebody told me, First, they told me he got shot because they heard the gunshots. Right. They said he got shot, then he got hit. So, you know, this is my guy.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You know what I mean? Like, whew. Yeah. You know what I mean? I can't talk about it either. Not again. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Watch all. You're what I'm talking about to talk. Yeah. And for me, I mean, you know, again, I'm going to always say this, man. A family that prays together, stays together. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:48 So I immediately just dropping to my knees, man, and sent one up. You know what I mean? God fixed this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's all. Leaving them put it in your hands. And he did. And he did it.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Do you look at life differently as a group and just people? Because it has to change the way you look and the way you move. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the way you say goodbye to your girl and your wife and your kids. It has to change all of that. For all of us. You just never know when it's that time. And they thought it wasn't, man.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Hey, me let me tell you something. We're so blessed to be here. You got to think like 15. We made each other at 15. You know, we had our little fights and gripes. But we understood the, um, the men. mission, and that's to keep God first, stay together, first again after that, and we love what we do, but we love each other.
Starting point is 00:37:31 There you go. And we knew our mission was, like you said, a lot of songs back then, Army was a little soft. It was still a good song, but still it was kind of soft, and then you had some of it was kind of freaky. And so we definitely came up with the concept of where we want to speak on the behalf of brothers like DJ Envy, Jagged Edge, who were Timboles, who were Jordans. You know what I said? We're just not throwing on the suit.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It'd be more relatable, man. And be more relatable about, hey, I'm hurt. You hurt me, baby. And we need to talk about this. You know, I promise to stay there with you. Although, you know, you may be going, I want to learn what I need to do better. So we knew that the message was more powerful
Starting point is 00:38:08 coming from something real instead of something that the label or the audience kind of expect. No, it's a little deeper than that. You know, music has a message behind it. Yeah, I'm super glad of the route we took, man. We never wanted to exclude anybody from our music or, you know what I mean, like exclude this, sale to this certain, our block or this certain type of people, you know what I mean? One thing about we all have a common is we have love somebody or wanted to love somebody, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:38 And that's a universal language for us, you know what I mean, love. So that's what we're going to promote. Yeah, I got some songs that people love that I don't know, y'all going to be able to do on the tour or not. Like the nasty girl, the trade it all. No, no, see. No, see. There you go. I come. I didn't need to know. Like, I do it. I love my music now.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You took the words right out of my mouth. We've got like a lot of, a bunch of new records on shows. Along with what we are. But that's not what she was alluded to. And I know what she was alluded to. I mean, I'm asking the question because I think, you know, people are, I know for me, if I come out into midnight with you guys, I do want to hear, trade it all is my song. Nasty girl is my song. Let me just say this too, right? Diddy, that's, you know, that's my brother. That's our brother. Like, we've had a good relationship with. I can't speak on nobody else's. You know, it ain't my business, right?
Starting point is 00:39:24 But at the end of that, it only did with my interactions with the man. And I'm talking about plenty of them. After being around him 30, 40 times, I've never seen nothing that offending me. He's never offended me. He always made sure if we was in his space, we felt welcome. And like I said, all the other things that other people talk, they can have that. Now, I had an uncle went to jail for 11 years. Let me shout out my Uncle Larry.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Uncle Laird. I had an uncle went to jail for 11 year, and he was always still just my uncle there. then changed to the point where he's some different guy because he did some messed up stuff he's still my uncle Eric and it's the same with Diddy to me at this point
Starting point is 00:39:59 you know I don't know if he's innocent if he's guilty but that's my brother and that's all I can say about Pray for him man Pray for him right But I do want to ask Trade it all You're all surprised he called y'all
Starting point is 00:40:10 And not he won't 12 At that time not one 12 I'm pissed off Listen because really We got more songs with him than they do Right We got like three four songs That's why he said the chair leading in the Rai-Raw.
Starting point is 00:40:23 You're mad about that. Get to the bottom of it. The album, definitely pick it up right now, and we appreciate you guys. When the tour start? March 26, Dallas. March 26 in Dallas. Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. It is Jagged Edge.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Hilarious. Hellaris, Sholomey the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Long of Roses here as well. And we got some icons. Legends in the building today. Ladies and gentlemen, we have new addition and boys to men. Wow. They're going on tour together. I feel like this should have been happening.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Why did it take so long? Who wants to start? I think that there's a lot of logistics that go with having two groups. two groups with such great success in order to get that together. Scheduling has to be right. Also, you know what I mean? The energy has to be right. The climate has to be right. And I just believe that this is the time.
Starting point is 00:41:33 God put this time as the time to show the world what this whole vibe is all about. New addition, Boys to Men, Tony Braxton. It's a real thing. And this is the moment God placed it right here. Now, how does Boys to Men feel? I gotta ask because you guys, they were your idols, right? they were your idols, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:50 From the story, you know, you're seeing them, you know, when y'all had a show in Philly, y'all come to the bus and you're singing, and that's how you got your family. They wouldn't be here without a new edition. Let's be clear on that. Well, you know, that's not actually how it went, you know what I'm saying? Oh, the story was that right?
Starting point is 00:42:01 No, no, no, I don't mean to, I don't mean to. But you know, but you know, like, in order, in order for the story to actually be told in a movie, sometimes you have to, you know, make it all go together in sequence. Well, that's the truth. You know, for people that didn't see the story. So there's truth to that. But it was Michael Bibbins, Ricky, and Ron.
Starting point is 00:42:23 They were actually coming off stage at the powerhouse. And they were in Philly. And they were introducing that you guys were going to be DVD. And we had just, by the time they came off stage, we had just snuck backstage. We passed, passes back before we got backstage. As soon as we got there, they were coming off stage. And I guess Nate asked Ricky.
Starting point is 00:42:47 can we sing for him? You know what I'm saying? And Ricky was like, y'all got a tape. He said, y'all got a tape. And we was like, no, we ain't got no tape. He was like, ah, well, y'all need a tape. You know what I'm saying? He started writing down the address.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But then Nate was like, hey, yo, I'm going to go to Biv. So he's like, Biff, can we sing for you? He was like, can y'all do it right now? Boom, we bust into Can You Stand Aranacapela? So it was backstage. It wasn't at a tour bus. But, you know what I mean? the story, nonetheless, it definitely
Starting point is 00:43:19 resonated. Wow. The tour bus was more exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? It was a lot more sexy. The tour of us was sexy. I do want to ask, you know, every artist-manager or artist-executive relationship
Starting point is 00:43:32 has its highs and lows. When you look back, what was some of the biggest misunderstandings or lessons y'all learned from, you know, each other? I guess you can say, like, with any relationship, I mean, in a group, because even when Bibs signed his years ago, it was almost like him being the fifth member at the time and I think it was more like a dynamic type thing
Starting point is 00:43:51 you know we learned a lot about each other's personalities as well as just understanding you know how the business went so you know you had your share of highs and lows and ups and downs but at the end of the day it's all about the it's better is the end of a thing than the beginning of a thing absolutely so it's one of those things where it's like here we are look at this you know what I'm saying a lot of people didn't think that this you know situation would even happen but as you mentioned
Starting point is 00:44:15 Boys men owe a lot to New Edition but this is what succession looks like You understand what I'm saying So it's one of those things where it's like These guys did what they did And they gave us the ball and we ran with it So now we can roll with it together So now we can roll with it together
Starting point is 00:44:30 Can we expound on the brotherhood You know between all of y'all man I love seeing all of y'all together after all these years What have y'all learned about forgiveness And just staying together as brothers Do you know, New Edition and Boys I could say Go ahead go ahead you said
Starting point is 00:44:42 I've said before In the few interviews It's talking about the fact that when you're talking about true brotherhood, it's a real true brotherhood. And we're like real siblings. And I've said that that's why we go through our ups and downs, our battles with them, they had some ups and downs and all of the above. But at this stage of our lives, when we come together, man, it's like it's just nothing but laughter. It's like at this point of our lives, we didn't been through a lot. And I'm sure there's more to deal with as far as challenges go.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But we've come full circles just as grown men, just as human beings. and we have fun when we come together. Yeah, I was going to say, do y'all need to talk or y'all just like, look, we brought, let's just do this. Well, this is the deal. Again, this is the first time that we've even come together in this circumstance, you know what I mean? Other times it's been, you know, we've been on shows with BBD. We've done a few shows with Johnny and Bobby and, you know, and we, I think we did one gig that we all were together. But I feel like in order for the energy to actually get to the place where it's supposed,
Starting point is 00:45:45 to be something like that. A break bread moment has to happen. You know, some things, you know, some things that we might have on our hearts may need to come out, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's what brotherhood is about, you know? And I'm a big fan of atonement, guys. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm a big fan of letting it go. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney general is suing a Nashville doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight
Starting point is 00:46:27 and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just. about a few family's futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. Doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant.
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Starting point is 00:48:54 Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Rory Scoval, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world. dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think, she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-rayed vision. How could I not follow him?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Honestly, I got to follow him. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience.
Starting point is 00:50:03 But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Game is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.
Starting point is 00:50:34 The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts especially at the age that we're all at
Starting point is 00:50:54 you know I'm trying I'm trying to yeah man I'm trying I'm in Coast mode this is the time let's go out let's make some money and let's entertain these people and be on Coast mode that's all
Starting point is 00:51:07 what was that initial conversation like what was that initial conversation what he was saying was It's one of those things where because we're on the road and because we have the time it's going to be one of those organic things. We don't want to make this a melodrama.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It can't be in. And it ain't no negativity. Ain't no mess. Like, you know what I'm saying? None of that shit. You know, excuse me. None of that stuff. Like, it's really just about
Starting point is 00:51:30 understanding how important this meant or this was to not only to the fans, but to us. So this is what we're doing. We're celebrating. We're going to have a good time. We're going to go on the road and we're going to sing and dance our ass.
Starting point is 00:51:42 is off. Absolutely. And we're going to give people the greatest show they've ever seen in their life. That's right. And have fun doing this.
Starting point is 00:51:47 That's right. Have fun doing it. Now, what do you think there's missing in the R&B game right now? Why don't you think there's more R&B groups? Honestly, I think
Starting point is 00:51:56 it started at the record lately. I think people that are hired now, some of them don't have an eye for talent. They have an eye for their computer. Word. Sometimes you have to go in the street
Starting point is 00:52:07 like we met in the street. You know, they're singing to be close and I think they look at it as the hits of the computer makes them a hit group but it's so much more to it and back in the day
Starting point is 00:52:22 like for myself as the CEO I stayed the two in the morning and kept looking at the pictures listening to the music the A&R and the people at the office now they're on the red carpet before the artists get there so the responsibility and the care the detail
Starting point is 00:52:37 is missing and if someone would just slow down and say yo how many times we got to look at the Grammys and not one R&B group is on the show Right, right, right, right Right? And the first time we see in an R&B group in the last five years, well, you know, we saw
Starting point is 00:52:53 what Bruno and them did, but that was a different thing. I'm talking about someone from the hood, like a Jodicy, New Edition, boys to men jagged edge, is when Juan's sons was on there and Jesse gave them the shot. That's the first time we've seen black kids on the Grammys ever in a long time. And that's
Starting point is 00:53:09 where it starts. It starts younger, it's got you at the office or it's going to have to come from us now with Bobby with so many hits how many hits are you going to do on stage oh man to the mic and they're because that's the time
Starting point is 00:53:22 where everybody can take a break you have so many hit record single right like how are you giving us a break Bob he gives me a break I don't I don't know it's up to Brooke and it's up to you know the guys
Starting point is 00:53:39 how much they want me on the stage I don't plan to do no more than the next man I know that Right Right You work long Don't play me Don't play you
Starting point is 00:53:52 Trust me You know All right Okay So for boys the men How long did it take y'all To complete a whole song in the studio Because you
Starting point is 00:54:04 When I say when the songs be going off You'd be like No no I got some more Mm-hmm How do you take for y'all That was back to the day, seven-minute songs back in. I'm not even be specific with it. The Christmas album that I bump all year round to this day.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Christmas interpretations. Wow. Thank you so much. That's like my favorite Christmas, I play it all year round. How long did it take y'all to complete a single song? Well, I'll tell you this. It took us two weeks to do the Christmas album. What?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, that's all the time we had. Two weeks, that's all we had. And we recorded it in Europe. London. In London, yes, with Brian McKnight. We sat there because we were on. on tour. We were on tour in London, right? Yeah, and we had to meet a deadline. Yeah, we had
Starting point is 00:54:45 to meet a deadline. And we sat in there. Of course, we wrote songs on the road, you know, like Sean would call me to his room. He had joyous song. I came up with Wild Christmas. Nate had a cold December nights. Mike did, no, Mike was cold December nights. Nate had
Starting point is 00:55:01 what was the record? Share love. Share love. Do they know? Yeah. So the idea, like, literally to do a new standard Christmas album was it was grueling because we didn't have much time, but we wrote the hell out of that. Like every aspect of it was straight from the, you know, the soul. You know what I mean? It was real, real moments. So we didn't want to make it all like, you know, jingle bells,
Starting point is 00:55:27 you know what I mean? We wanted to make it so that we could feel it, you know what I'm saying? So that you could actually play that drawn straight, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that skips. Yeah, you know, You know, once the standards come and play, you know, of course, you can make choices, but when you have new Christmas records that people falling out with, that's the only choice. That's why we decided not to make another one. Yeah. Yeah. If y'all don't need to, please, but if y'all don't need to, because that's one of my favorite albums.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Thank you. Appreciate it. Johnny Gill. Why did you kill Give Love on Christmas Day later? Because that's my favorite Christmas song. Like, y'all were singing these Christmas songs. Like, women were leaving y'all. Because they were
Starting point is 00:56:10 That's all I had to give I didn't have money back then All I had was loved off Is there a song that you guys Hate to do that? Like I just don't want to do that song Y'all look at each other See I know it was one
Starting point is 00:56:28 In the sill of the night I hate that song You hate that song I'll tell you why you hate it So we're in Salt Lake City We were on tour And the record label, I'm sure a Biv has something to do with this shit.
Starting point is 00:56:43 The record label called it and was like, yo, we need a record for the Jackson's miniseries. And we wanted to be in the still of the night. Now, we could think of so many other records that we would have been excited to do. You know what I mean? But they wanted in the still of the night. So, okay, it's a very easy record, guys.
Starting point is 00:57:03 You know what I mean? Of course, with our harmony structures, we kind of do it a little. little bit different because it's not the regular triad. The issue is, is nobody wanted to sing the lead. It was a day off. It was a day off weekend and we wanted to go snowmobiling. Exactly, right?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Exactly. So nobody wanted to sing the lead. So any, right, right, right. No, no, no, hell no. We don't want to sing the lead because it's in the still other night. Right? So we flip the coin. That's how we did every, that's how we cleared every altercation, every situation.
Starting point is 00:57:37 and we would just flip the coin. And Nate won. And we left. How long did you record, Nate? I don't even remember, bro. I was so pissed off, I thought, bro. I'm looking out the window of snow cat mountains and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:53 It's hilarious. He's still traumatized. Is there a song that new edition he hates to do? Yeah, I want to know that. Yeah. What song y'all hate to do? For me, it would probably be, you're not my kind of girl. What?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah. Walking to the Lakers are. And it leaned. and on the dance side. There's just one move that we do without a lot. And later on, my ass hurts
Starting point is 00:58:13 everything. Are y'all reinventing dance moves then? Like things y'all not going to touch this time around on the stage? We are definitely going to but I think we do want to give people a different experience. Like Envy said,
Starting point is 00:58:37 Some of the classic stuff that people have come to know us for, if it isn't love, maybe even you're not my kind of girl. Some of those things we're going to keep in place. We might add some variances. But I think people want to see us do something new and fresh. So we definitely want to give people a different experience. But you can't do everything. As ballplayers get older, they even got to adjust their game.
Starting point is 00:58:57 But their body is not going to have to do what they need to do. Thank you. Listen, you got to tell Brooke that because he ain't. He's not trying to hear that. They want the same look from 21. He'd be like, you try. That's what you tell him. You try.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Sometimes the running man just ran out. The walking man. Right. It's a shty man. Are y'all helping boys and men develop their biopic? I remember there was rumors of a boys and men biopic at one time. No, it's not a rumor. This is happening.
Starting point is 00:59:32 It's happening. I mean, we're still in the embryonic stages of it, still trying to get things together because we want to make sure that the story is told the right way because there are a lot of things that by design we have not said you know there's been a lot of things that's been mentioned about the group and said about the group and things that nature that we just kind of watched the laugh and kept quiet you know what I'm saying because when you see the people that are actually saying it you got to always consider the source and and when you see their positions and the lives they're living and things that nature
Starting point is 01:00:07 Outside of all of the shock value of, oh, somebody said this. If you look a little deep, you say, oh, okay, that's why they said that. Now, you know, the thing about the industry, though, is that everybody knows everything about everybody. Yeah. If I wanted to come on this radio show and talk about certain people, I know I could. Because I know exactly what happened. Who did it the whole nine yards? The issue is, it's not us, though.
Starting point is 01:00:35 You know what I mean? it's the people you know what I'm saying everyone has an opinion you know what I mean they call it social media but there's nothing social about it at all you know what I mean the thought process about it is when someone says something about you
Starting point is 01:00:50 it's fine especially if it's true I don't care but I'm tired of people lying about us they lie about us and we never say nothing well I got a messed up knee I got three screws in it and I'm getting myself together.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Before you go there, I want to get him an example of how we don't say anything. Like, people have been talking about our fourth member forever. Oh, y'all did this to him. Y'all kicked him out. He was sick. Y'all ain't giving a shit about him. Y'all don't know the story. And that's okay because we keep that in.
Starting point is 01:01:21 But I tell you one thing we've never done. We've never said anything about him until the latter years to make sure that man, if he's not here, he can have a career. Absolutely. We don't want to stomp on him. You don't do that. so we don't we don't do that that's not i mean i'm the least social media guy on the planet yes yes it is no need for i don't live in that space so it's no need to go in there and deal
Starting point is 01:01:44 with all the craziness because we're going to handle ourselves so when someone is is doing that and telling stories like literally fabricated stories i feel like it's it's just felt like time you know time to to to defend the integrity of my group of my fellas myself you know what i mean and look, I'm not going to say boys to men, we were to clean this on planet Earth, you know what I'm saying? We did some stuff, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people, you know, I'm pretty sure we pissed
Starting point is 01:02:13 some people off, you know what I mean? No, I did. Right? But at the end of the day, we were trying to protect our brand. We were trying to protect it. We didn't have Michael Bibbons over us anymore to protect us. We didn't have Kyle Lil Roundtree. He got murdered, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:28 We was trying to figure out all kinds of things managerial. We had Michael Jackson, and the prince telling us to know your worth and don't let nobody get over on you you know so we we developed a chip we started looking at everybody and like oh no you're not going to do this to us you're not going to do this to us so when they hear our voices because we were so silent because everybody else was doing it for us now we're assholes you know you understand just because we're in the studio and we're working on a project does not mean that we're going to be consorting that's not what boys to men do when we're in the studio we work we don't have time to play games you know what i'm saying because we have a we have to please these fans you know so when someone is saying you know that we said something as specific about a friend of ours we don't need baby face yes who i just talked to yesterday come on man i saw you jump in the comments of the cook show and say yeah what you said but so why now even address that if you know it's not true because i got time i got a broke messed up knee
Starting point is 01:03:33 I was sitting on the damn couch I was sitting on the damn couch I couldn't get up I couldn't drive I was watching cartoons and playing PlayStation and I saw that shit and I said hmm this will be fun and guess what it was
Starting point is 01:03:48 it was very fun because I got a chance to let the people who really cared on that page know that it was a lie now you could choose to take it forever you want I'm just trying to figure out where it came from I never said anything derogatory about Chili
Starting point is 01:04:04 if you read the comments. I said, I love those girls. I said, we have history together. I'm just trying to figure out what happened. I mean, we heard that Tion said after the past of my thing, I ain't staying for this corny-ass shit, corny-ass show. That's what, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, why? I love you.
Starting point is 01:04:21 We love y'all. Like, the nostalgia when we walk into the room, they jump into our, I mean, Chile used to jump into our arms in. It's like, what's good? Byuan, at the end of the day, we're just going to sell some tickets. Absolutely. Because to be honest with you, this, where we are, and what we're trying to do, we're trying to inspire it.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Absolutely. And you guys' movie is going to be a great movie. It's going to be from your point of view. Your fans are going to love it. And we just want them to come to this. So they could see us together because we've never done this. Absolutely. You know, and this is really our first interview.
Starting point is 01:04:56 So the Breakfast Club is really the first interview of us all together. That's right. Perfect. Can I just say to you guys, to boys and man, let me just say this and I'll shut up. But I'm glad that you guys are telling your story because in a world that we're living in now with social media and everybody can get on here and say what they want, ruin people's lives, ruining your reputation. They can do a number of things. It is important. No, you can't fight the whole world.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No, we'll never be able to change. Sometimes people of view, no matter whether it's the truth or not. But when it comes from the horse's mouth and it's written in stone, it can't be erased. It can't be a story. So if nothing else, at the end of the day, with your legacy, anybody want to believe, whether they want to believe, that's all, it's all well and fine, but it has come from the horse's mouth directly and it's written.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Amen, Johnny. So the answer, yes, we're working on the biopic. Bibb is definitely going to put his input into it and work it out. Mike McCarrie is going to have his input on that. You know what I'm saying? Because it's everybody's story. It's everybody's name. It's everybody's story.
Starting point is 01:05:57 But the stuff they won and everybody was touching on, and the people that were saying, they're corny, they cornball. I can't wait. Get your tickets. If you haven't got your tickets yet, talking about 30 cities. I'm sure it's going to be more than that
Starting point is 01:06:08 because they're going to have to ask and you're going to sell out so fast. I'm just happy grown folks got something to do, man. This is going to be a great thing, mate, man. New edition, boys to men, thank y'all for joining us. Thanks to having us.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Don't forget Tony. That's what I meant. Why Tony? Why did y'all decide to get Tony? We needed a queen. And I thought that honestly she was, to me, I thought it was a great part,
Starting point is 01:06:33 could be a great part of this, this, the whole movie. Because it's about, when you're doing a show like this, you want catalog, you want everything to be able to fit perfectly and I think that she just fits for the for the other than. Was she the first choice? Yes. She was my first choice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That conference call was different, but she's there. Yeah. Yeah. So y'all made the call to her personally. Oh, yeah. I did. You did. You done good. I talked to her, directly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you, Johnny Gill, because I'm happy I'm going to be seeing her teeth. No, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That's my girl. The new addition is Boyston Man, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Florida man is arrested after Deputy Say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electricute his pregnant whites. Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo. The Breakfast Club, bitchy. Donkey other day with Sholomehane the guy. the way y'all keep letting him get you all like this. It ain't, it ain't me, Duval, it's them, okay, Florida. Donkey today goes to a young woman named Akina Samson, okay?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Akeena is a 31-year-old woman from St. Petersburg, Florida, who works at one of... I'm investigative journalist Melissa Joltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's Attorney General is suing a national. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
Starting point is 01:08:20 But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight, doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different.
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Starting point is 01:09:22 If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said, through your two times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galooski, I said,
Starting point is 01:10:08 you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, Untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know?
Starting point is 01:10:32 What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players, comes crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoval, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-rayed vision. How could I not follow him?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Honestly, I got to follow him. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimeless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy.
Starting point is 01:11:45 He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. He going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family,
Starting point is 01:12:16 and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The greatest institutions of all time, McDonald's. Okay, I am not about to sit here and do a commercial for McDonald's. Okay, you can say what you want about McDonald's, but they have been around since 1940. It has 36,000 restaurants and over 100 countries, and they serve 69 million customers daily. Dropping the clues bombs on McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:12:46 If that's not an institution, I don't know what is. Okay, supersized me ain't stop nothing. At some point, we have all had a love affair with McDonald's. Okay, my go-to was the two cheeseburger meal with an awesome. orange drink, and I'm old enough to remember when it was 299, 314 plus tax. What was your go-to, Jess? The same thing, the two cheeseburger meal, 3.14?
Starting point is 01:13:04 What about you, Libby? Mine was the same, but it was $3.24, New York. $3.24. Okay. McDonald's was the place that we would all hang out after the football games, drop on the clues bombs for the Berkeley Stacks. Monks Corner South Carolina all day. I have a lot of love and great memories connected to McDonald's, and there was nothing like, you know, having a
Starting point is 01:13:20 homie working at Mickey Dees because they would always bless you with free food. That's what it was a blessing. Okay, that's what it was a blessing. All right, but Akeena Samson didn't have that giving spirit, okay?
Starting point is 01:13:30 Akeena is clearly not the homie you want working at McDonald's. If you're looking to get something free, no. Okay, Akeena is there to protect McDonald's
Starting point is 01:13:37 at all cost. All right. She, a 17-year-old customer got choked out by Akeena after she stepped behind the counter to take some ranch dipping sauce after not
Starting point is 01:13:47 being helped by employees. Now, we have all been at a fast food restaurant and been frustrated by the service, but that doesn't mean you can take matters into your own hands
Starting point is 01:13:55 and go behind the counter and do their job for them, okay? This little entitled-ass teenager took their ass behind the calendar to get some ranch dipping sauce and Akeena, according to the police reports, grabbed their arm. When the teen tried to break free,
Starting point is 01:14:08 Akina allegedly grabbed her by the neck and took the girl to the ground. Sounds to me like the big show's finishing move. Remember that showstopper choke slam big show used to do? That's what seemed like happened in this situation. Now, I know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 01:14:22 How many ranch packets did the victim secure? Well, the police reports does not reveal that information, but it did reveal that the victim had visible injuries to her neck and left elbow. The incident was also captured on video. Akeena was charged with child abuse. Now, you probably say in yourself,
Starting point is 01:14:37 damn, Akina, did you have to do all that for some McDonald's Ranch sauce? I don't know if McDonald's Ranch sauce. I've never had it. Anybody ever had McDonald's Ranch sauce here? Yes. It slaps? Definitely slaps. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Now, if it was Polynesian sauce, Chick-fil-A sauce, we probably could understand. But McDonald's Ranch, I'm not sure. Just says it slaps. I'll take her word for it. But it's not about what the team did that got her choke slammed. It's the principal. As much as I have to give a keen of this he-ha, because there is a part of me, I mean, as much as I have to give a keen of this he-ha, there is a part of me, that's like per.
Starting point is 01:15:11 That's it. What is it? Per. What is it? Per. Per. What's that? That's just clock it.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Like, that's the tee. Okay. He wants to be a woman so bad. Yes. Someone has to teach D.Y.N.'s a lesson. Okay, where was this 17-year-old's home training? There is cause and effect. The 17-year-old was the cause and effect is a keena choke slamming her
Starting point is 01:15:35 and being arrested and charged with child abuse. And now she's about to lose her job at McDonald's. Okay, she is clearly missing her calling as nightclub security. But I digress. Look, customer service 101. If a customer breaches protocol, especially a minor, throw hot fry grease on them. No.
Starting point is 01:15:52 The appropriate response is the call management, our security, our security. Okay, don't resort to physical violence because McDonald's wouldn't front line for you like that. And you should never under any circumstance risk your job, freedom, and a young person's safety over a condiment. I know, I know that 17 year old was risking it all too, but day 17,
Starting point is 01:16:11 you 31, you should know better. Now, once again, you got a child abuse charge, which is going to look nasty on your record, and you lost your job at Ronald McDonald's house. This situation makes the ice cream machine always being broken seem like good customer service. please give Aquina Samson the biggest he-ha. McDonald's Day dying for you, bro. Yeah, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:34 That's extra. Just call the police. I will say this, though. A lot of people that work at fast food jobs take their job way too serious. Yeah, definitely. If I want an extra packet of ketchup, please give me an extra packet of ketchup.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I agree. You know, if I say, hey, can I have extra ketchup? That doesn't mean one packet. Give me four or five. If I ask for an addiction. you know sweet and sour sauce yeah give me one or two give me two three I'm telling you you know I used to work in McDonald's
Starting point is 01:17:00 I used to give them packets away like testers on a corner yeah because it's not it's just hoarding them ketchup packets probably sit there for months they do they have a time just take it too serious if I want my my fries to overflow right the fried container you know like give me a little extra
Starting point is 01:17:16 and it's not coming out of our money isn't like we not buying as employees like we're not buying the sauces out of our money so it's crazy Be a cheerful giver when you work at these fast food establishments. I'm just saying. You look like Jennifer Lewis. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Yes. For Fantasian on American Idol. That's when she, that's before she started. You know what just told me off edge? She told me that looked like a broke transgender. I did not say, I did not say you like a broke transgender. Because I don't know how the brook ones look. That's what you said to me.
Starting point is 01:17:45 That's what you said to me. But, no, I said you look like an old-ass trans woman. That's what I said. Same difference. It looks like you was marching into the 60. That's what that wig is given right now. Well, did you know what you had to go through in the 60s? If you had dogs sicked on you and hoses sprayed on you
Starting point is 01:17:59 and marching in a hundred-degree weather, you would look like this too. You think your wig is supposed to look prim and proper while you marching? I just said it just looked like... Why you Dominicans don't know our struggle? Dominicans do not know how our people struggle. Don't let them off the table price. The Tyler is going to cast you tonight if you see this wig on you.
Starting point is 01:18:14 All right, well, I mean, tomorrow morning. What is wrong with her? I didn't mean to say tonight. He'll cast you. He'll cast you to cast you to miss you. on afternoon. Sorry. What is wrong with y'all? All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:18:30 He looked just like a bitch when I said, is he? Excuse me? He's going to what? To watch a night. Why tonight? Why? I got to begin doing castings at night. I really think of you should. I am a lazy. Yeah. How dare you? Oh, my God. He will talk to me during regular
Starting point is 01:18:47 office. Oh, my God. Shal of me want to be a woman so bad. All right. Now, we're all part woman. 50% It took 50% woman's 50% man
Starting point is 01:18:56 to make us Oh so it's woman and you Yes Mm-hmm This wig Really has him
Starting point is 01:19:04 feeling himself All right All right guys Can we focus Can we focus Classroom Can we focus Okay
Starting point is 01:19:08 Okay All right What in the Ficketry are you talking about That is crazy Uh-uh I wish I could see
Starting point is 01:19:17 His wig Like What are you Laughing about He has a wig Right now It looks like He's an old lady
Starting point is 01:19:22 in church That's exactly what it looks like. They just finished frying some fried chicken and he's ready for... Where did the wig come from? Tell the whole context.
Starting point is 01:19:29 It came from a wig store. No. Lauren's stylist. Her wig maker went to go buy you away from the store because she said, you are not worth the bundles.
Starting point is 01:19:38 So everything that y'all are saying about my wig this morning is exactly what y'all should be saying to her, but y'all leave me on this island to all to myself. All right. Morning everybody is DJ and V. Jess Larry.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Sholomey and you guys. We ought to meet you guys. We ought to breakfast. Love all the rules is here as well. We got special guests in the building. Come on now. We have 112. Cheer.
Starting point is 01:19:58 We have total. And we have Case. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. How are you doing? Great. This is not a random link up. Y'all going on tour together. That's right, man.
Starting point is 01:20:10 This is the 112, room 112, 30th anniversary tour. We're so excited. Brought our brother Case and our sister's total with us. So, you know, have a good time. Man, first show is when? November 5th. 5th, yeah. November 12th, Stanford, Connecticut,
Starting point is 01:20:29 Brooklyn is November 13th. So there's some members missing. So are the members going to be on tour or this is the tour? This is the tour. This is the tour. Okay. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 01:20:39 My other members are coming. You buy yourself, Jason. You buy yourself. What made now the right time for all of y'all to come together for this tour? Oh, that's a great question, bro. Honestly, man, it just felt right, it being 30 years, you know, us being in the game. So it just makes sense for us to just get out there and just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've been doing, you know, been rocking out with us for the last 30 years, man.
Starting point is 01:21:04 So, you know, we're really excited about it, man. Like, we managed total in 112, we're managed by the same, you know, crew. So, of course, that was an easy, you know, decision to make with that. And then, in case, you know, being, you know, the bro. Yeah, that's the bro. You know what I mean? And all of us having that catalog is definitely. We wanted to bring back that 90 nostalgia, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:21:23 And all y'all can still sing. Thank you. Thank you. That's, you know, not everybody doing it, but y'all can still sing. That's important. That's good. Yes, man. How did y'all find that balance back in the day between being, like,
Starting point is 01:21:35 sexy but strong, but still screeed with it? Like, how did y'all find that balance? It was just natural. Like, that's just who we are. I grown up, Jersey, like, how we were. And that's what made us to me. That's what made us who we were. Total.
Starting point is 01:21:49 The name started out as total. because we were all individuals in our own way you know so it was it wasn't like you had to buy the brand we came as we were the brand yeah how was the bad boy era back then growing up right because it was a time
Starting point is 01:22:04 90s 2000 it was nothing but bad boy in radio nothing but bad boy on the streets mixed tapes to clubs how was that era where just it felt like anything y'all did hit it was a beautiful thing it was fun it was yeah that's where we learned a lot of our
Starting point is 01:22:21 grind from that whole era, just grinding, just out there going to the tunnel. Like, it was just fun. It was just like a big old party. Yep. Yeah, that tunnel, that's crazy, right? Us coming from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was a different, it was like a different
Starting point is 01:22:37 culture, so, you know, you can imagine how that felt. He's coming, I know he's from the South Carolina, you know what I'm saying? So, you're coming to New York. A culture shot. The culture was a shock, you know, so, you know, but it was so much fun because it was just like, okay, clubs, smart, smaller. But, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:52 But it was like in your face. So, you know what I'm saying? But we learned a lot musically here. What about you, for you, Case? Now, you weren't on bad boy. You were on Def Jam. You were a songwriter. You had, you have the, I always say you have that one wedding song that you will get paid for for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Happily ever after. Yeah, let's hope. So how was it coming up for you during that time? Because at that time, you were Def Jam. Def Jam was heavy hip-hop. And you was probably one of the only on. R&B singers at the time. I mean, it was cool for me, except for the only problem
Starting point is 01:23:25 was they was learning on the fly, how to do R&B, and so I get caught up in that some time. But, yeah, I mean, you know how big they was then, so that part was cool. It was just a lot of times they had a lot of hip-hop sensibilities
Starting point is 01:23:36 because it's hip-hop label. But one of the things that helped me was that I was the last artist that Russell personally signed a deaf jet. So I've always called him and be like, yo, I can snitch. Did you know their records was going to be so timeless,
Starting point is 01:23:50 like Touch Me, T, me happily ever, ever? I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do. Like, I never wanted to make, like, trendy stuff. I always wanted to make music. Like, my parents would listen to stuff from, like, 20, 30 years earlier, and they had me doing it. And so my thing was, like, if I could do that,
Starting point is 01:24:05 then I'd be happy, and then everything else would fall in line. You worked with Mary Jay, Beyonce, Foxy Brown. Usher. Usher. Who else? There's a bunch of people. L.L. Ghostface.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Ghostface. Genuine, Tyrese. Genuine, Tauris. Jam and Lewis. I felt like. Def Jam didn't treat you like a regular artist, right? With Total and 112, I would see them out in the club. Like, Bad Boy would have them out.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Def Jam artists, Def Jam would have them out. I didn't see you, Def Jam put you out as much like that. Was it because you didn't want to go out? They probably didn't know what to do with him because he was R&B. I think a lot of it, yeah, first of all, I hate going out. Okay. So if I didn't have to be there, that's why you always be like, y'all ain't hear any lot of stuff about you because I didn't know how to, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I'll be over here. I mean, I wasn't really big on going out or when I did, I'd be somewhere else unless I had to be, you know, somewhere with them. Gotcha. Did you guys, well, Mike, I saw you say that you feel like, you know, you guys' first album, without that, you don't think the R&B
Starting point is 01:25:05 would be as prevalent or as worldwide as it is right now? So, yeah, the mind frame was we started that whole trend. It's like the way music sounds now, 112 had a lot to do with that because no one can really give us a group that did it. the way that we did it before 112, like as far as singing over
Starting point is 01:25:22 hip-hop beats and stuff like that. Like you are challenging, but find me a group that did it because back in the day, what you had, the A side and you had the B side, right? And then on the B side, so the records, right? They had the records. You had the up-tempo records where they were singing, but they were always all that singing over up-tempo beats and stuff. It was like,
Starting point is 01:25:40 it was confusing. Puff, one thing that Puff told us was like, when you're in the club, when you're recording a record, right? sing the song as if you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holly the girl you ain't going to be in this girl talking about you're going to girl I want to be with you
Starting point is 01:25:58 no one else you know what I mean it's going to be something smooth and so when we wrote records we wrote the uptembo records and then Slim having the voice being able to just lay on the tracks the way that we did like that started unhoed everywhere people now like when you hear R&B it has a hip hop element
Starting point is 01:26:15 element to it as well it's not just R&B it's a hip-hop element. But isn't that the bad boy formula though? Wasn't that Diddy? Like, I feel like did he did that like with J. Bligey.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I feel like he did that with Mary J. Blige. I feel like he did that with total. I'll give you that. I'll give you Mary J. Blige because, yeah, she helped,
Starting point is 01:26:29 because we always say that that Mary is between Mary and 112, but 112 really. And then, yeah, Puff did, you know, he did contribute because we came in with just, man, we are and beat.
Starting point is 01:26:37 We aren't beat, we're like, forget all this stuff, man. Like hip hop, that's going cheap and how sound and all this stuff and he's had the vision, it was like, yo, this is what's going to separate y'all from the Drew Hills, from the jackets, from the, you know, the adjets and all these other groups that were coming
Starting point is 01:26:50 out at the same time. And you know what? That didn't make perfect sense, right? Instead of all in, I would love to come up to me in a class. And let me tell you what you want to do. Like, you're just straight up. Straight up. You got my attention.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Right, what you wanted? You know what I mean? Exactly. That's exactly what it was. Yeah. Because nine times out of ten, they ain't going to be able to sing. So he's like, bro, all that in my ear, like, I don't want to hear all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:10 You know what I agree with Mike's assessment. Not to start any arguments here, but Case, do you agree with that? Yeah. I mean, it was part of it. I mean, during that area, that's when hip-hop and R&B was coming together. Yeah. Yeah, so pretty much. And I feel like Bad Boy was at the forefront of it.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Because Total was hip-hop with that touch of R&B. You're R&B group, but I think we were more based hip-hop with the touch of R&B. And Mary definitely was the pioneer of that sound. When Puff did the remixes with Jodacy. because Jodacy was just the R&B
Starting point is 01:27:42 and then he brought the hip-hop element of him. Yeah, it goes facing Rayquan on the freaking new remix. You know, like, I can't even, I don't want to hear, can't you see without Biggie Part? Like, I hated when some of the urban A.C. stations back in the day didn't play rap, they were just played the R&B. Oh, I hated that.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I was like, they did that what y'all do with, um, you guys don't like making part. I mean, yeah, they did. Yeah, they'd do it. That's so facts. That's so facts. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Right. Yes, because they didn't want, a lot of urban Atecs didn't play a rap. Yeah, you got played a record. Yeah. How do y'all balance egos, you know, uh, you know, when you're dealing with three legendary acts who all had their individual moments, you know? It's, it's a respect level.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, because I'm, I'm actually fans. Yeah. Uh-huh. I love that. And I know it sounds cliche or whatever, but it's, it's the truth. And, you know, we, we, we, so often we don't tell the truth, you know, we're getting this
Starting point is 01:28:34 type of form or whatever, but we are genuinely, like, total was our first pick to be on this room 112 tour. Case was our first pick to be on this. Because Case, his catalog, we just spoke about. His catalog, ridiculous. Total. Ridiculous. One 12. Ridiculous. And we wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia, you know, and just bring back that whole era
Starting point is 01:28:54 of, I knew where I was when I heard only you for the first time. You know, I knew where I was when I heard Cupid. When I heard, I'm missing you, or when I heard, can't you see for the first time? Like, I remember where I was when I heard these records. Now what I was to be where I was at when I was. There's not. There you go.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I think that ego is healthy on a tour, especially like this, because you have to, if you use it the right way. Like, for me, it's like, okay, I'm going to try to kill everybody. And then they're going to feel the same way. And then the fans are the one that win, as opposed to people who just go up there and don't care. We know ego, like, I just got to check. We come from that.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Yeah, you got it. We come from that. We come from that. We go to our tour and we're like, yo, you know, total, 112 just killed y'all. And that's how you got to do it. That's how you got to do it. That's how you should threaten us all the time. Friendly competition.
Starting point is 01:29:40 And that's the best, because the only people that win is the fans. Was there ever a low time for y'all? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely was. I think for us, the resurgence of the 90s, you know, was something that was what we appreciated more than anything. And that happened about what maybe
Starting point is 01:29:55 almost like six, seven years ago. Yeah, it was like where the pandemic, yeah, around that area. You didn't know when, you didn't know what the state of music and how the industry and how we were going to perform was going to be. Remember everybody start experimenting
Starting point is 01:30:11 with the whole, you know, taping, you know, and then in the video, it was just, yeah, I thought we were going to just, it's going to be that, you know, so so much gratitude now to, you know what I mean, see it for where it is. And we feel like
Starting point is 01:30:27 it's a blessing that of all the errors they chose to pick, they picked the 90s. You know what I'm saying? So, thank you. You know, I would want to go back. I really want to experience it in New York. like oh man oh man
Starting point is 01:30:41 you would have I said that one time you laughed at me you go back in time I don't remember that come I just feel like the time that you guys were like the top
Starting point is 01:30:51 it was such a good time here it doesn't seem real like when we hear the stories or like you can just sit here listening you all talk about just walking in the studio
Starting point is 01:31:00 on Biggie's just there and like you know I can't imagine being young and just being like on top yeah like in that time But you're working so hard that you don't even realize it.
Starting point is 01:31:11 You know, like you don't even realize where it took us to step away from it, you know, and, okay, we can use it as our downtime, you know, and say that that was a time for us to go back and look at it and say, man, we did more than just seen, you know, we contributed to a culture. Like, we are part of history, you know. Defined the culture. Yes. So it was amazing. It's looking at it now, being older, like you're looking at it now, because my kids now,
Starting point is 01:31:37 they're going back and they googling like dad y'all they're pizza and cream oh that's your video bro that's me that's you dad you didn't already my kid no because I don't go around I don't go around hey look at Mike for one time you know I don't I don't do that you know like they just
Starting point is 01:31:53 they grew up as normal as I hoped I could because I could teach them to be because it's such a mental strain that the industry takes like it gives but it also takes one of the things is you know the lack of of you know the mental
Starting point is 01:32:09 of health that comes along you know what I'm saying with that because you're inundated with all of this you know you have to be perfect every time you see you're out your face is always got to be right your clothes got to always be right oh man they don't fell off bro like
Starting point is 01:32:25 I just came from the gym you know but I think the camera messed that up the camera messed it up because when like the reason I asked if he was out is I would see everybody out right I was a kid growing up so I was go to Grants to them and see y'all on a hundred twenty-fifth street. I'll go to the tunnel and see y'all in the tunnel
Starting point is 01:32:42 and different things. And there was no VIP area. No, it was. We were all together. That's what it does. And it gave you a connection with the artist. But there was no phone, so it was no, I'm taking a picture. Right. It was no, you know what you possibly do if you want, and nobody went to La Coney, but you might ask for an autograph, but nobody wanted to come to the club and do that. So it gave you a connection. And I feel like people are not enjoying the moment. Yeah. Yeah. I did that with our Beyonce's tour. And I'm like, I'm like, I've never
Starting point is 01:33:07 went live, ever went live on Instagram. And I wasn't expecting this. Beyonce came out and she just started speaking. I'm on live. I'm like, I'm on live, y'all, this is B. And she started speaking and I started crying. I was not expecting. I was like, okay, guys, I got to go.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Literally, I might have been filming for like 10 seconds. You've got to be in a moment because it's an experience. You know what I mean? Watching the back is not the same. No, it's not. I just got to ask one more. I'm sorry. No one else beat. Will y'all confused when your heard that beat? No.
Starting point is 01:33:38 No, because there was snares all over that place. Well, we did not know what was going to be put over it. Okay. Because that was Terry once again, Terry Robinson. It's like how are you going to write over this? That's what I said when I heard it.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And when we heard it, we went crazy. It's one of my favorites. It hits so hard. If we could just get all of those acts on the stage one day, we're going to stay hopeful. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:08 It is. That joke's crazy. All right. Well, thank you guys for joining us. One-12 total. Love y'all. Get your tickets for tour. Thank you.
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