The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Jagged Edge, New Edition and Boyz II Men, 112, Total and Case Interview)
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And today's Friday is the best of the 90s.
Oh, come on.
That's our era right there.
You know, I was born in 1978.
So the 90s is when, you know, that was our error.
That's when we was outside, outside.
I should say the R&B 90s, because today on this show, we have 112 total case, jagged edge,
new addition and boys to men.
Now, 112 total and case are going on tour together.
New edition and boys de men are going on tour together.
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And Jagged has just got off tour
They just wrapped up their tour
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What a DJ Heavy
What's up?
Charlamane the guy.
Peace, King.
Peace with Jeff.
Hey.
Hey, some people got a shout before they had their Uber.
Not even something.
Everybody.
I'm telling you, Mustie ain't no joke, bro.
Nah, these two girls, you know,
and I understand you got your own separate situations,
but you hop in my car,
and immediately the car is just filled up with these fumes.
And I got to hold my breath through the car line.
Nah.
Nothing worse than a stink woman, man.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Men are allowed to, you know, have an older,
even though I don't like it,
but man, when a woman musty,
Yeah, it's different.
But you know what?
It does up too.
But you can't leave no reviews for the riders.
They leave reviews for y'all.
You can't review a driver.
Some of these cars think too, though.
Like, sometimes you get an open to smell too, though.
Yeah, because of the people.
That's what you said, because the shit just got out.
Like, that's the thing.
Now, he got to quit the, well, you know, take a break to go get the car wash.
Now, and the crazy thing is they tried to have a conversation with me, you know,
and I played it off like, oh, how long you been going to go in your dread?
Oh, like, a couple years.
You know what I'm saying?
like not trying to wrap a little conversation, you know what it is?
You got to keep a podcast on deck, a podcast about bacterial vaginosis,
a podcast about, you know, being musty and just be playing it.
You know what I'm saying?
Just like playing loud and hope that they get the hint.
Oh, God.
Hey, but love y'all.
Y'all.
You have a good morning.
Love you too, man.
You too, man.
I'm telling you, man, musty woman is just, like, remember last week?
It was a room full of people in here.
And I go, it smelled like outside.
Somebody smelled like outside.
Everybody started sniffing
His name is
Mind you ain't nobody was outside
Nobody
That's so nasty
I'm like oh gosh
I was scared to look around
Like damn
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What the word bro?
Melo what's popping
What you've been Melo?
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Yo life is amazing
It is what it should be
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Peace
All right
So I gotta get this
off my chest
And I'm the perfect person
To talk about it
So we got to start shaming these men
For getting their body done like these bad bitches
I'm tired of it, though
Like, because let's the record show
I'm on the record talking about
The BBOs being booty and baby legs
I don't know mention the kids
You're sticking in the attention between me and the NYPD
Word
But like
Booty and baby legs is a bar mellow
That's funny
Yep
I'm telling you, but hear me out
You can't be out here with the stomach of John Tuna
and the chest of Coyloray.
I don't want you to mention her.
She's beautiful.
We love her, but Drake, stop it, bro.
Say some names, Mello.
Say some names.
He just said one.
I thought it.
Drake, French Montana.
Who else?
Tiger?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's fake or not, but it do look stupid.
Oh, Tiger.
And let the rest of the fake abs.
I would be 300 pounds, bro.
Like, I'm not on the car, 200.
I've really been with y'all from thick ends.
thin, no for that. Like, you feel
me? Like, nah, you can work it out. Like, you know what I mean? I'm somewhere between
dad bod and beanbacked chair. I used to be a bag of 30 laundry,
you know what I mean? You know what God gave you, you? You feel me? God don't make no
mistake. I agree. It feels like the abs are going through what BBLs went through. Like
BBL used to look really, really stupid. And then they got better over time. That's how
abs, abs on men, will probably look in the future. Yeah. I understand that, but at the same
Sometimes, as a man, you should not be wanting to lay on the table untarned this.
Oh, I agree.
And then get up, act like you put in the work.
I'm not with that.
I understand, Mella.
Well, thank you, Mello.
Any song.
All right, Mella.
Hello, who's this?
This is Rico from that time.
Rico, we don't want you.
How are you, sir?
I'm good, man.
How are you, Charlie, man?
I'm blessed black and highly favored, man.
Get it off your chest.
Hey, I just wanted to call about the day and dad's interview.
Okay.
Talk to me.
I thought it was hilarious.
I did too. I enjoyed it.
When you go through life, you realize that some people
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Hello, who's this?
This is Monica.
Hey, Monica.
Hey, guys.
Peace, Monica.
I cannot believe I'm talking to you guys.
I can't believe it.
But today is my birthday.
I turned 52.
And so I just want to say, happy birthday to myself.
Well, happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
But thank you, guys.
This is a great present for me because I've always tried to get through.
And so today, I finally got through.
Well, thank you.
Happy Boynd Day.
What's you doing anything special to celebrate?
Are you did this weekend?
I did it.
I'm going to do it this weekend.
My husband has flying me to L.A.
to see my steps on perform.
Ooh, what's your steps on performing?
He is a sango.
He's a DJ.
Okay, that's dope.
I'm happy to hear that.
Yes, so thank you guys.
Yeah, go out to L.A.
Enjoy some good weather, get some good weed or something.
You know what I mean?
Maybe some edibles.
Enjoy your birthday, Mom.
Let your husband toss your legs in the air one time.
You heard so bad.
Have a good, Monica
She sounded like she's going to be in this.
He's Monica.
Hey, Tayaisha.
Hey, how are you?
We've seen you on hold for two damn hours.
I just have to look at the phone.
Why?
And I'm like, what the hell?
What's going to Tysia?
What are you on home?
Well, first of all, I'm at the group home with my girls,
so I was really, I was on hold,
but I still was doing my job too.
Salute everybody at the group home.
What group home you're calling from?
I'm not going to say,
but we didn't say in New Carolina.
Okay.
California. Well, this was
getting off your chest. I'm from Jersey. Okay.
So I would like to get this off my chest today.
I just want to say that
better days are coming. Today
will be the fifth year
that my husband has been going.
So my grandfather died on the fourth and my husband
died on the 9th. They both died from COVID
five years ago. Oh, man.
I hate it. Sorry. So, yeah,
just plan for better days and just
for those who do have
grandparents and parents and
husbands, just love them to the best of y'all.
because life is definitely short.
I know before we used to say life is short,
but after COVID, life is really, really shorter than what we expected to be.
Yeah.
Man, I love your attitude on life.
I love your attitude.
You're calling from a group home.
You've dealt with all of that loss,
but you still are telling people and encouraging yourself that, you know,
there's going to be a better tomorrow.
That's right.
Yeah.
And I want to give a big tie to my mom, which is in Jersey City right now.
She's battling with breastpins, so that's my last parent living.
And I do go back and forth because, you know, I got to maintain my house and the stuff here,
but my mom comes before any of that.
But she knows the situation.
And just to go back and forth and having her deal with what she's dealing with is hard because medical sensor ain't worth nothing.
So that was a, they could get the donkey of the monks.
How about that?
But other than that, I just want to shout out Cheryl Williams and just tell you, Mom, I love you.
And I know that you're going through something right now.
but we all just praying for better days to come.
Absolutely.
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And we got some special guests in the building.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jagenedge.
Welcome to you.
All your brother's doing.
That's good.
You all in a minute.
It's been a minute, man.
Growing up a little bit.
That's right.
I always like to say this is one of the groups that y'all guys don't break up at all, huh?
No, we don't know.
But how?
We see every R&B group, there's always a breakup.
There's always an all right.
How do y'all stay so tight?
Man, we like each other.
I mean, half the group is us.
We love each other.
A little easier that way.
But you're brothers is the one that be fighting.
No, no.
We'd be on the same page.
Absolutely, man.
I always like to start from the beginning when you guys come here.
So how did y'all guys form the group for people that don't know?
How did Jagged Edge form?
All right.
Whoever wanted to take this?
Well, me and my brother was...
In the womb.
You know what I'm saying?
In the womb.
Pott is the day wasn't.
But we had this group when we first got to Atlanta.
You know, we was about 15 years old.
Not when we first got.
out there, but when we first started singing.
And it was two other guys, and we sang
at this church picnic. Kyle was
at the church picnic. He came to us at the church,
but he said, listen, man, I got a group.
Why don't y'all drop the other two and come get with it?
He didn't have a group.
He didn't have a group, but we didn't know that, though.
We used to see Kyle
arrived anyway, because me and him was
basketball players, and his cousin
was playing on our team.
So we knew each other from that and passing,
and then once we actually sat down and talked,
And we realized he could sing two.
We put it together.
It was another member at first.
And he fizzed without somewhere along the way.
And we've been together ever since.
Since we've about 15, I know we've been in his group.
Now, what did the name come from?
The name came from, if y'all remember, think back to, I think, I want to say like 91, 92,
was a group came out of Atlanta called a few good men.
They were signed to LaFace.
Yep.
So just the name of their group got me looking at movie titles.
During this time, I happened to be at Candy House, right?
And she had all these movies, like, all these, just, you know, roles of movies.
And I started looking at the movies, and when I seen the movie Jagged Ed,
it's almost like it jumped out, like, hey, you know what I mean?
And so I said to them, and everybody was like, yeah.
Like, not one person pushed back.
Everybody was like, yeah, that's a dope man.
And this was after y'all were already signed to Sussodaf.
No, no, this is work.
So you had a relationship with Candy before?
Yes.
Only like a year, like a year prior to us signed.
Okay, and what was the relationship?
Was it just like music stuff or like, how did you?
Well, Wingo went to school with Candy.
They was in high school together.
We graduated the same class.
So when we did our demo, he had, took it to Candy House just playing it for just like, you know, getting
her approval.
Wasn't even trying to get a deal or nothing.
She liked it so much.
She was like, she called Wingham one day like, you're still in that group?
Y'all still trying to get a deal?
He was like, yeah, so we made the deal with Candy.
If you get us a deal, you can manage us.
She got us a deal.
So she was our first manager once we signed.
She gets to the money
and the business side, though.
How was she as a manager in the early days?
I mean, she was getting her feet with us.
But I'll always tell anybody, like,
as far as being an active artist
and trying to manage, you know,
manages somebody's like having kids.
Right.
You know what I mean?
You got to be up for them,
5.30 phone calls, and it's just a lot.
You know what I mean?
And also, too, shout out to Tiny, too,
because she was just as instrumental
without Tiny.
She was, like, the direct link to JD
on the business side.
You know what I mean?
So without her, we would have happened as well.
How instrumental was Jermaine Dupree with y'all now?
Like, do y'all still, like, call him about music, you know, for all the original parts,
volume one, I know.
I mean, you know, Jemaine, he, that's our guy forever.
But as much as I love Jemain, I hit Jemaine about all kinds of shit, but, you know,
it's rough to get Jemaine do something.
Right.
If he ain't a part of it, you know what I'm saying?
I've had a tough time getting his involvement.
and things that he wasn't really spearheading.
Honestly, Jermaine is why we are writers and producers.
Well, at least producers.
We was always writers.
But through dealing with him, we're not like,
you can't just put us on the backburn.
We're not, you know what I mean?
You can't tie our hands.
You can't.
So we figured out how to go make beats ourselves.
You know what I mean?
Learn how to play the keys ourselves.
Learn how to do this stuff.
So he's a big reason why.
I'm not saying in a negative way.
Just understanding that it takes more than just one man
to stop what we're trying to do.
Absolutely.
And one thing about us, man, we're not petty.
You know what I'm saying?
We kind of respect the blessings.
He took a chance with us, man.
He took a chance, so we respect the blessing and keep it moving,
but we was already a self-contained group.
He was already writing.
It was already what we're going to wear on the show,
so we really didn't need anything but the money, I guess.
And a big of that's a bunch of monies.
We need nothing but everything.
But we're self-contained.
But yeah, but much love of JD, like, you know,
we just knows a lot of bashing when it's,
comes up. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, we ain't doing that.
And when did you leave Social Def?
And why? We actually, Social Def left us.
You know, he had a situation with Columbia. They couldn't get on the same pace.
So he left and went to, what did he go?
The Ariscer first, right?
So he went to Arista. And Columbia basically told him, like, if you want them, you don't have to pay for a football team.
And Jeddy was like, I don't want them that bad.
I didn't make me
Right
Yeah
They didn't let them take us and buy
So we wanted to go
But you know what I mean
Wasn't in the cars at the time
So when y'all left at that time
That's when it completely stopped
He never said
I'm not writing for y'all producer
Because y'all weren't on the label at that time
No
We got back together with Jame
Two different times
We went to
We went to Def Jam with Jame
And then we did an album
E2 with Jem
So yeah I mean
we've, you know, the music game in itself
is a complicated business.
And I think, you know,
keeping your relationships tight is something
that you have to do. But at the same time,
if you can't get on the same page
with somebody, you have your own goals
and your own dreams, and that's what you
got to follow. You know what I mean? And that's what we
did. Yeah.
Knowing that y'all's felt like, let's get married
and promised and all that. Like, how does that
feel to denote it? I just saw a video that went
viral where somebody had proposed to that girl
And they had me a second, I can't have to get married.
Did y'all see that?
What are y'all reactions from the other than it being funny
and they should have picked somebody else?
Like, knowing that that still hit life.
It's love, man.
I love it.
It's an amazing feeling like, you know, we talked about this other day.
Like, we definitely didn't get us to be a one-hit wonder, right?
And we definitely wanted to have a career that was filled with longevity.
So when you see things like that, you realize you don't hit your mark a little bit.
You know what I mean?
But we ain't done, though, but, yeah, it feels good, though.
So in an interview, Beyonce Dad, like, threw y'all off of a tour bus?
What happened with that?
Man, how did that be it was.
You know, it's so amazing.
Like, when it happened, somebody said to us, y'all going to be talking about this for the rest.
And they was damn right.
Like, y'all still be talking about it.
I don't know what happened.
So basically, we was on tour with Destiny Child.
And at the time, Matthew was our manager.
So we was sharing a tour bus, us and Desy Child.
We all on one tour bus.
was that bus.
It was his.
It was 12.
And so, you know, I think it's probably well documented that LaToya has had different
issues.
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Tennessee's Attorney General is suing a Nashville doctor.
In April 2024, a fertility clinic.
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frozen embryos.
I was terrified.
Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever.
At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
But this story isn't just about a few families' futures.
It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all.
It doesn't matter how much I fight.
It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this.
It doesn't matter how much justice we get.
None of it's going to get me pregnant.
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Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fell and started screaming.
If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way.
I said through your two times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to
help is the one you're the most afraid of.
This dude is the devil.
He's a snake.
He'll hurt you.
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I told Roger Galuski, I said,
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with you know the crew um this particular night letoya's mom was on the road
miss pam shout out miss pam right and miss pam obviously had issues with the crew so
matthew called even though he wasn't in the city he called back to the role manager like you know
miss pam ain't getting on that bus right and we was like well we're not leaving her out in the middle
of louise right so she is going to get on the bus that dude had the police called on us had us
So you're all getting off the bill.
You're all getting up to do you.
So, yeah, I mean, but, you know, we just felt like
whatever the issue is, it can't be that serious
that you're going to leave somebody out here.
Right.
And you're not even here.
And you're not even here.
It was somebody, mom, man.
If it was your mom, right, I'm saying,
we'll just do it the same way.
Come on, man, I'm right.
Hey, man, you know, we're from the South.
And, you know, we're mama.
Yeah, so we kind of felt that like, man,
we're mama's boys and we had a obligation, but we wanted to
to work Matthew.
Hey.
by the bathroom at one of your concerts
we're going to add your ass out
so shots out to Matthew
for not going by that bathroom
because you were dating Latavia at the time, Brandon,
and then, so she told the story
in a radio station, she was saying that you
stuck up for the group, like you were the one about to go off
so you was at the bathroom.
Well, we all did, but I definitely
went in the room with the girls.
You know, I just seen it, like I said,
like if it was my mother, it would have been worse
than that.
Like, I would have turned, it would have got nasty and ugly.
So I didn't want it to go that far.
So I tried to have a conversation with the girls.
I couldn't talk to Matthew.
He didn't make himself available.
But, you know, I tried to make the other girls who, you know, was in the group with Latoya, you know, support her.
And they all just kind of let me know that they had different issues with Latoya and her mother.
And that's why it was this bad.
And even to be fair to them, because I talked to Kelly about this after that.
And it got to a point where she even felt like, well, at this point, it's out of my hands.
Once Matthew took control of it,
they didn't feel like they even had much of a say anyway.
So, you know what it is?
I did want to ask, too.
They used to put 112 against you guys, right?
Absolutely.
And it was a thing.
Was it ever a beef or was it just always fun?
It was Charlemagne did it, man.
You know what, man?
It was never a real beef.
Like, I don't know how many people known this,
but them guys, like, brothers, stuff.
Yeah, that's how many.
Like, out of all the male groups, we've been on shows,
with or just been around or in our
era, I should say. One-12 is our
closest friend. So, yeah,
it was never a real beef, but it got a little
testy at all right. At what point in, what happened?
What was the reason? When he's coming back from
a tour we was on, and we
was pulling into the city, me and Kyle was together.
Y'all kicked them out the bus this time?
We just heard them
on the radio talking some trash, and me
and Kyle just being a beeline in where they was at.
I'll take him out of my brains.
It was just me and here.
We knew how four was there.
We didn't even care.
We just ready to do whatever it had to be done.
What did they say that was that bad?
They were doing something.
They were doing something.
They were doing something like,
how could Jagget be the best group?
They got two,
they only got two lead singers,
a cheerleader and a Rara man.
And I said, hey,
wow.
I'm the Rara.
You know, that's about you.
Me and that guy went up there on a mission.
Nothing happened.
Like, nothing happened about.
Who was supposed to be the cheerleader?
Man, it wasn't.
I guess it was.
I guess.
And I honestly think, like, Ryan, because they was trying to pick,
they was really trying to put us on tour together.
So Ryan was trying to create something to, like,
to drive the traffic.
But you can't do it without telling us.
So he was taking the piss to everything they was doing.
We did talk back really good.
You know what I mean?
But y'all wouldn't say that when we didn't know no way.
Yeah, so that's the issue, too.
We ain't doing that.
How often do people bring up the, uh, the Cisco fight?
Oh, shit.
Oh, that.
He spared that man.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What happened?
I was in the dress room messing around.
He didn't put that boy in the head.
Y'all know Cisco, you know how to do some flips in there.
Here we were you trying to do something about how you say you up top,
I had to son him.
It wasn't about nothing.
It wasn't about nothing.
It wasn't a little messing around.
Yeah, right.
And it ended up getting, you know,
it would put out you play to them.
I guess he didn't know
I guess he didn't know
getting serious
Cowlinson's kind of playing
He said you what you
Yeah yeah he was getting
Well well he was actually
I was chilling
Right
And I ain't
I ain't for the do-all
I wasn't the aggressor
Okay
But I won't with the bulls
either like hey man chill out
And if you can
It's on the video
All right chill out
If you can see I'm like
Yo man chill out
And he was trying to like
Oh man I'm losing this
You gotta lose you
You gotta lose you
He didn't throw that one
I didn't throw no punt
I didn't throw him
He wasn't really
doing them dirty
I was like, y'all have been to fop in the walk out.
I live fared and that by this stuff, both of them.
And me and him was already gone.
They were already going, so we're gone.
So, y'all squads all your father.
Oh, man.
It's just a hard.
It's so R&B.
You know what I'm?
You know what I mean?
Quiet as it's kept, we f***ed all the groups.
Some of them have had issues with us.
So we've got to be everybody.
Straight up.
I got respect for all of them.
All of them.
So what is going to be?
What can we?
expect different from all original parts like where did that title come from you and just
for the record y'all know they're not bumping this in no trans disco all original parts
no you're stupid i don't know who made that you know she's not that's hilarious you're
you're crazy no doubt that's too funny that was a good one that was a good one it just
signifies the fact that since groups have been a thing right
They've all broken up.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And Jackson's broke up.
Even the Jackson's broken.
Right.
So, you know, us being the one group who's never broken up,
we wanted to kind of capitalize on that.
That's why it's called All Original Park.
I love that.
I remember when y'all made some of those classic records,
and do y'all know they were going to be smashes as soon as you made it?
Like, when you made, let's get married.
You made promise.
Did y'all know, like, oh, this is going to be it?
We did, kind of.
I ain't going to lie.
Like, you know, even when you look at songs like,
he can't love you, right?
Every song we ever put out, we understood what it should be doing.
Like, we understood the only reason to drop he came before Let's Get Married
was because he can't sound like nothing on the radio at the time.
We knew Leske and Marry was going to be the bigger song.
But we knew if you come in a song like this, it sounds like nothing,
it's going to make that role for Let's Get Married even bigger and easy.
And it did.
And it did what I mean to do.
We kind of have been.
You got to be that legacy song that when y'all going, your kids going, your kids, kids going.
This man was mad that we dropped.
He can't love you first.
He was like to drop, we're going to stretch.
Let's get married.
It just did something to me, you know what?
I'm like, what?
I'm mad at us and the record level,
but y'all want to drop this on a list of race.
That's why I never put my opinion on a record like that again.
You know what I'm saying?
Because at the end of the day,
I knew he can't love you was super dope.
It was a smash, but let's get married.
And I'm, you know, again, I'm one of them anxious guys.
You know what I'm saying something.
It's the setup.
It's about the setup.
And promise.
Brandon, you wrote that for,
Batavia, huh?
No, not for me.
He wrote it for me.
She said it was different.
He said, I wrote it for me.
Because I've been feeling this question she did that interview.
Listen, we're a team song, we're a songwriting team.
No matter what my piece of the song may be about, that don't mean the whole song is about that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I think when you're a songwriter, it's not always an exact story.
Sometimes it's pieces of a story that you're turning into one story.
turning into one story.
So, yeah, there was a piece in there about the time.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, we got more with Jagged Edge when we come back.
Let's get into their new joint.
It's called Just Might Get It.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Now, I feel like nowadays, brothers don't beg for the vagina.
They don't have to.
We never did.
The girls don't make them.
There you go.
The girls don't make them, man.
It's not even that they don't.
It's that the girls don't make them no more.
He can't love you.
You cried for it.
It was going to go out of your house.
Real tall, yeah.
It was just like, you know, you had to lead up
and just like, you know,
it was going to take about an hour and a half.
He had to work for it.
So you were like, hell, press to not let it go.
So it's a lot different now.
I think that's, you know, it's too much
homeboy love out there, man.
It's all good to have your...
Homeboy love.
Your damn right, the music be about the guys
loving their home music.
You're doing their home music.
I mean, I think all that's necessary.
Like, you need your team, right?
That's a necessary thing, but you don't want to put too much attention there
and then your girl feeling some type of way.
I mean, but you sit in the club.
I mean, the VIP section, for the kids.
For the girls who are like, back in the day, he used to be.
You see, like, everything, because, like,
sometimes I see them talking, they were like, man,
I'm going to kill these n-knit when I hit the streets.
We used to be like, I'm going to kill them when I'm dead.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
And that's how y'all used to dress back in the day?
They used to dress like,
what you think of, like, an R&B group, you know,
it's nice and, you know, suits and all that silk shirts.
Oh, then, you know, you see the top of me coming out of the side.
They used to dress like they're about to shoot a Thais game.
And they're nice.
Like some thug glove type of stuff.
I used to love saying my outfit, sending a video.
It's like, all right.
Now, you got it to a car racks and we broke your neck.
Well, I was in two car races inside of like nine months.
Absolutely.
The first one, I just broke my leg in two places.
I had some wrist contusions and a knot on my head.
And then the second one.
What happened in the car?
Did you fall asleep?
No, I was coming down the street, right?
You know how Atlanta, we got all those, you know, do a you turn to turn.
So I'm coming this way.
It was a car sitting right here.
And I'm knowing he's seen me, I see him.
And as I get this close, then he wants to turn.
So even though I'd stop my brakes as hard.
as I could, I still hit him.
He was at fault.
Like I said, just towed my car up, told me up.
But the next one was really, that's what really meant to be it.
Got jackknife.
Tee, they called a T-Bomb.
T-bone.
Somebody right in the middle of your car.
I was sitting down a light.
On that accident, I'm sitting down a light.
And I hear these shots rang out.
Next thing you know, I guess the person who got hit,
he lost control of his vehicle and he just swirred right into my vehicle.
On the driver side, his side.
I broke my neck.
I had five broken ribs on this.
side one on this side I got a scalp laceration right here a lot it was a lot with
that one I know it's pretty emotional for I saw you on Tamara Hall when you talked
about and you got emotional for the rest of you guys when you all heard about the
second car accident like what were you guys reactions and like kind of what was that
like for y'all as well I was I was I was scared because I didn't know what to it's
you know what I'm gonna keep it real I don't have my license but don't worry
about that this man ain't never had a license yeah but that's a car
I mean, I mean, my wife was like, you know, my wife was like, you know, but, I mean, you know, my wife was like, you know,
once I heard it, I'm like, baby, I got to get out of here.
I'm, damn the falling down the steps to get in my Uber.
And, but in my mind, I'm just praying.
I'm like, Lord, please don't come.
I mean, it's such a cliche, like I say to hear about artists, playing, accident.
then motorcycle and then car wrecks.
So I'm like, and then it's like,
this second one, you know, and so we got up in,
when I got there, because I know the other guys
are showing up, I seen them and are like, okay, okay,
he's not what.
But it's still him, he's still him because
he won't take a neck brace off.
Right.
He's like, I'm gonna take this up.
I saw, well, my, good.
He cried a couple jokes, but I got there,
so I'm like, well, he's going to be out.
He was in pain, though.
You know, and like, for me, you know,
it was the worst day of my life.
I ain't gonna lie to you,
because the way I heard, the car, somebody told me,
First, they told me he got shot
because they heard the gunshots.
Right.
They said he got shot,
then he got hit.
So, you know, this is my guy.
You know what I mean?
Like,
whew.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I can't talk about it either.
Not again.
You know what I'm saying?
Watch all.
You're what I'm talking about to talk.
Yeah.
And for me, I mean, you know, again,
I'm going to always say this, man.
A family that prays together,
stays together.
You know what I mean?
So I immediately just dropping to my knees, man,
and sent one up.
You know what I mean?
God fixed this.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's all. Leaving them put it in your hands.
And he did. And he did it.
Do you look at life differently as a group and just people?
Because it has to change the way you look and the way you move.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
And the way you say goodbye to your girl and your wife and your kids.
It has to change all of that.
For all of us.
You just never know when it's that time.
And they thought it wasn't, man.
Hey, me let me tell you something.
We're so blessed to be here.
You got to think like 15.
We made each other at 15.
You know, we had our little fights and gripes.
But we understood the, um, the men.
mission, and that's to keep God first, stay together, first again after that, and we love
what we do, but we love each other.
There you go.
And we knew our mission was, like you said, a lot of songs back then, Army was a little soft.
It was still a good song, but still it was kind of soft, and then you had some of it was kind
of freaky.
And so we definitely came up with the concept of where we want to speak on the behalf of brothers
like DJ Envy, Jagged Edge, who were Timboles, who were Jordans.
You know what I said?
We're just not throwing on the suit.
It'd be more relatable, man.
And be more relatable about, hey, I'm hurt.
You hurt me, baby.
And we need to talk about this.
You know, I promise to stay there with you.
Although, you know, you may be going,
I want to learn what I need to do better.
So we knew that the message was more powerful
coming from something real instead of something that the label
or the audience kind of expect.
No, it's a little deeper than that.
You know, music has a message behind it.
Yeah, I'm super glad of the route we took, man.
We never wanted to exclude anybody from our music or, you know what I mean,
like exclude this, sale to this certain, our block or this certain type of people, you know what I mean?
One thing about we all have a common is we have love somebody or wanted to love somebody, you know what I mean?
And that's a universal language for us, you know what I mean, love.
So that's what we're going to promote.
Yeah, I got some songs that people love that I don't know, y'all going to be able to do on the tour or not.
Like the nasty girl, the trade it all.
No, no, see.
No, see.
There you go.
I come. I didn't need to know. Like, I do it. I love my music now.
You took the words right out of my mouth. We've got like a lot of, a bunch of new
records on shows. Along with what we are. But that's not what she was alluded to.
And I know what she was alluded to. I mean, I'm asking the question because I think, you know,
people are, I know for me, if I come out into midnight with you guys, I do want to hear,
trade it all is my song. Nasty girl is my song. Let me just say this too, right?
Diddy, that's, you know, that's my brother. That's our brother. Like, we've had a good
relationship with. I can't speak on nobody else's.
You know, it ain't my business, right?
But at the end of that, it only did with my interactions with the man.
And I'm talking about plenty of them.
After being around him 30, 40 times, I've never seen nothing that offending me.
He's never offended me.
He always made sure if we was in his space, we felt welcome.
And like I said, all the other things that other people talk, they can have that.
Now, I had an uncle went to jail for 11 years.
Let me shout out my Uncle Larry.
Uncle Laird.
I had an uncle went to jail for 11 year, and he was always still just my uncle there.
then changed to the point
where he's some different guy
because he did some messed up stuff
he's still my uncle Eric
and it's the same with Diddy to me
at this point
you know I don't know if he's innocent
if he's guilty but that's my brother
and that's all I can say about
Pray for him man
Pray for him right
But I do want to ask
Trade it all
You're all surprised he called y'all
And not he won't 12
At that time not one 12
I'm pissed off
Listen because really
We got more songs with him than they do
Right
We got like three four songs
That's why he said the chair leading in the Rai-Raw.
You're mad about that.
Get to the bottom of it.
The album, definitely pick it up right now, and we appreciate you guys.
When the tour start?
March 26, Dallas.
March 26 in Dallas.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.
It is Jagged Edge.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Good morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV. Jess Hilarious.
Hellaris, Sholomey the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Long of Roses here as well.
And we got some icons. Legends in the building today.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have new addition and boys to men.
Wow.
They're going on tour together. I feel like this should have been happening.
Why did it take so long? Who wants to start?
I think that there's a lot of logistics that go with having two groups.
two groups with such great success in order to get that together.
Scheduling has to be right.
Also, you know what I mean?
The energy has to be right.
The climate has to be right.
And I just believe that this is the time.
God put this time as the time to show the world what this whole vibe is all about.
New addition, Boys to Men, Tony Braxton.
It's a real thing.
And this is the moment God placed it right here.
Now, how does Boys to Men feel?
I gotta ask because you guys, they were your idols, right?
they were your idols, right?
Yeah.
From the story, you know, you're seeing them, you know,
when y'all had a show in Philly,
y'all come to the bus and you're singing,
and that's how you got your family.
They wouldn't be here without a new edition.
Let's be clear on that.
Well, you know, that's not actually how it went, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, the story was that right?
No, no, no, I don't mean to, I don't mean to.
But you know, but you know, like, in order,
in order for the story to actually be told in a movie,
sometimes you have to, you know, make it all go together in sequence.
Well, that's the truth.
You know, for people that didn't see the story.
So there's truth to that.
But it was Michael Bibbins, Ricky, and Ron.
They were actually coming off stage at the powerhouse.
And they were in Philly.
And they were introducing that you guys were going to be DVD.
And we had just, by the time they came off stage,
we had just snuck backstage.
We passed, passes back before we got backstage.
As soon as we got there, they were coming off stage.
And I guess Nate asked Ricky.
can we sing for him?
You know what I'm saying?
And Ricky was like, y'all got a tape.
He said, y'all got a tape.
And we was like, no, we ain't got no tape.
He was like, ah, well, y'all need a tape.
You know what I'm saying?
He started writing down the address.
But then Nate was like, hey, yo, I'm going to go to Biv.
So he's like, Biff, can we sing for you?
He was like, can y'all do it right now?
Boom, we bust into Can You Stand Aranacapela?
So it was backstage.
It wasn't at a tour bus.
But, you know what I mean?
the story, nonetheless, it definitely
resonated.
Wow.
The tour bus was more exciting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
It was a lot more sexy.
The tour of us was sexy.
I do want to ask, you know,
every artist-manager or artist-executive relationship
has its highs and lows.
When you look back, what was some of the biggest misunderstandings
or lessons y'all learned from, you know, each other?
I guess you can say, like, with any relationship,
I mean, in a group,
because even when Bibs signed his years ago,
it was almost like him being the fifth member at the time
and I think it was more like a dynamic type thing
you know we learned a lot about each other's personalities
as well as just understanding you know how the business went
so you know you had your share of highs and lows and ups and downs
but at the end of the day it's all about the it's better
is the end of a thing than the beginning of a thing
absolutely so it's one of those things where it's like here we are look at this
you know what I'm saying a lot of people didn't think that this
you know situation would even happen but as you mentioned
Boys men owe a lot to New Edition
but this is what succession looks like
You understand what I'm saying
So it's one of those things where it's like
These guys did what they did
And they gave us the ball and we ran with it
So now we can roll with it together
So now we can roll with it together
Can we expound on the brotherhood
You know between all of y'all man
I love seeing all of y'all together after all these years
What have y'all learned about forgiveness
And just staying together as brothers
Do you know, New Edition and Boys
I could say
Go ahead go ahead you said
I've said before
In the few interviews
It's talking about the fact that when you're talking about true brotherhood, it's a real true brotherhood.
And we're like real siblings.
And I've said that that's why we go through our ups and downs, our battles with them, they had some ups and downs and all of the above.
But at this stage of our lives, when we come together, man, it's like it's just nothing but laughter.
It's like at this point of our lives, we didn't been through a lot.
And I'm sure there's more to deal with as far as challenges go.
But we've come full circles just as grown men, just as human beings.
and we have fun when we come together.
Yeah, I was going to say, do y'all need to talk or y'all just like, look, we brought, let's just do this.
Well, this is the deal.
Again, this is the first time that we've even come together in this circumstance, you know what I mean?
Other times it's been, you know, we've been on shows with BBD.
We've done a few shows with Johnny and Bobby and, you know, and we, I think we did one gig that we all were together.
But I feel like in order for the energy to actually get to the place where it's supposed,
to be something like that.
A break bread moment has to happen.
You know, some things, you know,
some things that we might have on our hearts
may need to come out, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, that's what brotherhood is about, you know?
And I'm a big fan of atonement, guys.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm a big fan of letting it go.
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you know I'm trying
I'm trying to
yeah man I'm trying I'm in
Coast mode this is the time
let's go out
let's make some money
and let's entertain these people
and be on Coast mode that's all
what was that initial conversation
like what was that initial conversation
what he was saying was
It's one of those things where
because we're on the road
and because we have the time
it's going to be one of those organic things.
We don't want to make this a melodrama.
It can't be in.
And it ain't no negativity.
Ain't no mess.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
None of that shit.
You know, excuse me.
None of that stuff.
Like, it's really just about
understanding how important
this meant or this was
to not only to the fans, but to us.
So this is what we're doing.
We're celebrating.
We're going to have a good time.
We're going to go on the road
and we're going to sing and dance our ass.
is off.
Absolutely.
And we're going to give people
the greatest show
they've ever seen
in their life.
That's right.
And have fun doing this.
That's right.
Have fun doing it.
Now, what do you think
there's missing in the R&B game
right now?
Why don't you think
there's more R&B groups?
Honestly, I think
it started at the record lately.
I think people that are hired
now, some of them don't have
an eye for talent.
They have an eye
for their computer.
Word.
Sometimes you have to go in the street
like we met in the street.
You know,
they're singing to be close
and I think they look at it
as the hits of the computer
makes them a hit group
but it's so much more to it
and back in the day
like for myself as the CEO
I stayed the two in the morning
and kept looking at the pictures
listening to the music
the A&R and the people at the office now
they're on the red carpet before the artists get there
so the responsibility
and the care the detail
is missing and if someone would just
slow down and say yo how many
times we got to look at the Grammys
and not one R&B group is on the show
Right, right, right, right
Right? And the first time
we see in an R&B group in the last
five years, well, you know, we saw
what Bruno and them did, but that was a
different thing. I'm talking about someone from the hood,
like a Jodicy, New Edition, boys to men jagged
edge, is when Juan's sons was
on there and Jesse gave them the shot.
That's the first time we've seen
black kids on the Grammys ever
in a long time. And that's
where it starts. It starts younger,
it's got you at the office
or it's going to have to come from us
now with Bobby with so many hits
how many hits are you going to do on stage
oh man
to the mic
and they're because that's the time
where everybody can take a break
you have so many hit record single
right like how are you giving us a break
Bob
he gives me a break
I don't I don't know
it's up to Brooke
and it's up to you know the guys
how much they want me on the stage
I don't plan to do no more than the next man
I know that
Right
Right
You work long
Don't play me
Don't play you
Trust me
You know
All right
Okay
So for boys the men
How long did it take y'all
To complete a whole song in the studio
Because you
When I say when the songs be going off
You'd be like
No no I got some more
Mm-hmm
How do you take for y'all
That was back to the day, seven-minute songs back in.
I'm not even be specific with it.
The Christmas album that I bump all year round to this day.
Christmas interpretations.
Wow.
Thank you so much.
That's like my favorite Christmas, I play it all year round.
How long did it take y'all to complete a single song?
Well, I'll tell you this.
It took us two weeks to do the Christmas album.
What?
Yeah, that's all the time we had.
Two weeks, that's all we had.
And we recorded it in Europe.
London.
In London, yes, with Brian McKnight.
We sat there because we were on.
on tour. We were on tour in London, right?
Yeah, and we had to meet a deadline. Yeah, we had
to meet a deadline. And we sat in there.
Of course, we wrote songs
on the road, you know, like Sean
would call me to his room. He had joyous song.
I came up with Wild Christmas. Nate
had a cold December nights.
Mike did, no,
Mike was cold December nights. Nate had
what was the record?
Share love. Share love. Do they know?
Yeah. So the idea, like,
literally to do
a new standard
Christmas album was it was grueling because we didn't have much time, but we wrote the hell
out of that. Like every aspect of it was straight from the, you know, the soul. You know what I mean?
It was real, real moments. So we didn't want to make it all like, you know, jingle bells,
you know what I mean? We wanted to make it so that we could feel it, you know what I'm saying? So that you
could actually play that drawn straight, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that skips. Yeah, you know,
You know, once the standards come and play, you know, of course, you can make choices,
but when you have new Christmas records that people falling out with, that's the only choice.
That's why we decided not to make another one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If y'all don't need to, please, but if y'all don't need to, because that's one of my favorite albums.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Johnny Gill.
Why did you kill Give Love on Christmas Day later?
Because that's my favorite Christmas song.
Like, y'all were singing these Christmas songs.
Like, women were leaving y'all.
Because they were
That's all I had to give
I didn't have money back then
All I had was loved off
Is there a song that you guys
Hate to do that?
Like I just don't want to do that song
Y'all look at each other
See I know it was one
In the sill of the night
I hate that song
You hate that song
I'll tell you why you hate it
So we're in Salt Lake City
We were on tour
And the record label,
I'm sure a Biv has something to do with this shit.
The record label called it and was like,
yo, we need a record for the Jackson's miniseries.
And we wanted to be in the still of the night.
Now, we could think of so many other records
that we would have been excited to do.
You know what I mean?
But they wanted in the still of the night.
So, okay, it's a very easy record, guys.
You know what I mean?
Of course, with our harmony structures,
we kind of do it a little.
little bit different because it's not the regular triad.
The issue is, is nobody wanted to sing the lead.
It was a day off.
It was a day off weekend and we wanted to go snowmobiling.
Exactly, right?
Exactly.
So nobody wanted to sing the lead.
So any, right, right, right.
No, no, no, hell no.
We don't want to sing the lead because it's in the still other night.
Right?
So we flip the coin.
That's how we did every, that's how we cleared every altercation, every situation.
and we would just flip the coin.
And Nate won.
And we left.
How long did you record, Nate?
I don't even remember, bro.
I was so pissed off, I thought, bro.
I'm looking out the window of snow cat mountains and shit.
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
He's still traumatized.
Is there a song that new edition he hates to do?
Yeah, I want to know that.
Yeah.
What song y'all hate to do?
For me, it would probably be, you're not my kind of girl.
What?
Yeah.
Walking to the Lakers are.
And it leaned.
and on the dance side.
There's just one move that we do
without a lot.
And later on,
my ass hurts
everything.
Are y'all reinventing dance moves then?
Like things y'all not
going to touch this time around on the stage?
We are definitely going to
but I think we do want to give people
a different experience.
Like Envy said,
Some of the classic stuff that people have come to know us for, if it isn't love,
maybe even you're not my kind of girl.
Some of those things we're going to keep in place.
We might add some variances.
But I think people want to see us do something new and fresh.
So we definitely want to give people a different experience.
But you can't do everything.
As ballplayers get older, they even got to adjust their game.
But their body is not going to have to do what they need to do.
Thank you.
Listen, you got to tell Brooke that because he ain't.
He's not trying to hear that.
They want the same look from 21.
He'd be like, you try.
That's what you tell him.
You try.
Sometimes the running man just ran out.
The walking man.
Right.
It's a shty man.
Are y'all helping boys and men develop their biopic?
I remember there was rumors of a boys and men biopic at one time.
No, it's not a rumor.
This is happening.
It's happening.
I mean, we're still in the embryonic stages of it, still trying to
get things together because we want to make sure that the story is told the right way because
there are a lot of things that by design we have not said you know there's been a lot of things that's
been mentioned about the group and said about the group and things that nature that we just kind
of watched the laugh and kept quiet you know what I'm saying because when you see the people
that are actually saying it you got to always consider the source and and when you see their
positions and the lives they're living and things that nature
Outside of all of the shock value of, oh, somebody said this.
If you look a little deep, you say, oh, okay, that's why they said that.
Now, you know, the thing about the industry, though, is that everybody knows everything about everybody.
Yeah.
If I wanted to come on this radio show and talk about certain people, I know I could.
Because I know exactly what happened.
Who did it the whole nine yards?
The issue is, it's not us, though.
You know what I mean?
it's the people you know what I'm saying
everyone has an opinion you know what I mean
they call it social media but there's nothing
social about it at all you know what I mean
the thought process about it
is when
someone says something about you
it's fine especially if it's true
I don't care
but I'm tired of people lying
about us they lie about us
and we never say nothing
well I got a messed up knee
I got three screws in it
and I'm getting myself together.
Before you go there, I want to get him an example of how we don't say anything.
Like, people have been talking about our fourth member forever.
Oh, y'all did this to him.
Y'all kicked him out.
He was sick.
Y'all ain't giving a shit about him.
Y'all don't know the story.
And that's okay because we keep that in.
But I tell you one thing we've never done.
We've never said anything about him until the latter years to make sure that man,
if he's not here, he can have a career.
Absolutely.
We don't want to stomp on him.
You don't do that.
so we don't we don't do that that's not i mean i'm the least social media guy on the planet
yes yes it is no need for i don't live in that space so it's no need to go in there and deal
with all the craziness because we're going to handle ourselves so when someone is is doing that and
telling stories like literally fabricated stories i feel like it's it's just felt like time you know
time to to to defend the integrity of my group of my fellas myself you know what i mean and
look, I'm not going to say boys
to men, we were to clean this
on planet Earth, you know what I'm saying?
We did some stuff, you know what I'm saying? A lot of
people, you know, I'm pretty sure we pissed
some people off, you know what I mean?
No, I did.
Right? But at the end of the day, we were
trying to protect our brand. We were trying to
protect it. We didn't have Michael Bibbons
over us anymore to
protect us. We didn't have Kyle Lil Roundtree.
He got murdered, you know what I'm saying?
We was trying to figure out all kinds of things
managerial. We had Michael Jackson,
and the prince telling us to know your worth and don't let nobody get over on you you know so we we developed a chip we started looking at everybody and like oh no you're not going to do this to us you're not going to do this to us so when they hear our voices because we were so silent because everybody else was doing it for us now we're assholes you know you understand just because we're in the studio and we're working on a project does not mean that we're going to be consorting that's not what boys to men do when we're in the studio we work we don't have time
to play games you know what i'm saying because we have a we have to please these fans you know so
when someone is saying you know that we said something as specific about a friend of ours we don't
need baby face yes who i just talked to yesterday come on man i saw you jump in the comments
of the cook show and say yeah what you said but so why now even address that if you know it's
not true because i got time i got a broke messed up knee
I was sitting on the damn couch
I was sitting on the damn couch
I couldn't get up I couldn't drive
I was watching cartoons and playing PlayStation
and I saw that shit
and I said
hmm this will be fun
and guess what it was
it was very fun because I got a chance
to let the people who really
cared on that page
know that
it was a lie
now you could choose to take it forever you want
I'm just trying to figure out where it came from
I never said anything derogatory about Chili
if you read the comments.
I said, I love those girls.
I said, we have history together.
I'm just trying to figure out what happened.
I mean, we heard that Tion said after the past of my thing,
I ain't staying for this corny-ass shit, corny-ass show.
That's what, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, why? I love you.
We love y'all.
Like, the nostalgia when we walk into the room,
they jump into our, I mean, Chile used to jump into our arms in.
It's like, what's good?
Byuan, at the end of the day, we're just going to sell some tickets.
Absolutely.
Because to be honest with you, this, where we are,
and what we're trying to do, we're trying to inspire it.
Absolutely.
And you guys' movie is going to be a great movie.
It's going to be from your point of view.
Your fans are going to love it.
And we just want them to come to this.
So they could see us together because we've never done this.
Absolutely.
You know, and this is really our first interview.
So the Breakfast Club is really the first interview of us all together.
That's right.
Perfect.
Can I just say to you guys, to boys and man, let me just say this and I'll shut up.
But I'm glad that you guys are telling your story because in a world that we're living in now with social media and everybody can get on here and say what they want, ruin people's lives, ruining your reputation.
They can do a number of things.
It is important.
No, you can't fight the whole world.
No, we'll never be able to change.
Sometimes people of view, no matter whether it's the truth or not.
But when it comes from the horse's mouth and it's written in stone, it can't be erased.
It can't be a story.
So if nothing else, at the end of the day, with your legacy,
anybody want to believe, whether they want to believe,
that's all, it's all well and fine,
but it has come from the horse's mouth directly and it's written.
Amen, Johnny.
So the answer, yes, we're working on the biopic.
Bibb is definitely going to put his input into it and work it out.
Mike McCarrie is going to have his input on that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's everybody's story.
It's everybody's name.
It's everybody's story.
But the stuff they won and everybody was touching on,
and the people that were saying,
they're corny, they cornball.
I can't wait.
Get your tickets.
If you haven't got your tickets yet,
talking about 30 cities.
I'm sure it's going to be more than that
because they're going to have to ask
and you're going to sell out so fast.
I'm just happy grown folks
got something to do, man.
This is going to be a great thing, mate, man.
New edition, boys to men,
thank y'all for joining us.
Thanks to having us.
Don't forget Tony.
That's what I meant.
Why Tony?
Why did y'all decide to get Tony?
We needed a queen.
And I thought that honestly
she was, to me, I thought it was
a great part,
could be a great part of this, this, the whole
movie. Because it's about, when you're doing a show
like this, you want catalog, you want
everything to be able to fit perfectly
and I think that she just fits for the
for the other than. Was she the first choice?
Yes. She was my first
choice. Yeah. Yeah.
That conference call was different, but she's there.
Yeah. Yeah.
So y'all made the call to her personally.
Oh, yeah. I did.
You did. You done good. I talked to her, directly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you, Johnny Gill, because I'm happy I'm going to be seeing her teeth.
No, yeah.
That's my girl.
The new addition is Boyston Man, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Thank you.
Good morning.
Good morning.
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He's a snake.
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The greatest institutions of all time, McDonald's.
Okay, I am not about to sit here and do a commercial for McDonald's.
Okay, you can say what you want about McDonald's, but they have been around since 1940.
It has 36,000 restaurants and over 100 countries, and they serve 69 million customers daily.
Dropping the clues bombs on McDonald's.
If that's not an institution, I don't know what is.
Okay, supersized me ain't stop nothing.
At some point, we have all had a love affair with McDonald's.
Okay, my go-to was the two cheeseburger meal with an awesome.
orange drink, and I'm old enough to remember when it was
299, 314 plus
tax. What was your go-to, Jess? The same
thing, the two cheeseburger meal, 3.14?
What about you, Libby? Mine was the same, but it was
$3.24, New York. $3.24.
Okay. McDonald's was the place that we would all hang
out after the football games, drop on the clues bombs
for the Berkeley Stacks.
Monks Corner South Carolina all day. I have a lot
of love and great memories connected to McDonald's,
and there was nothing like, you know, having a
homie working at Mickey Dees because they would
always bless you with free food. That's what it
was a blessing. Okay, that's what it
was a blessing.
All right,
but Akeena
Samson didn't have that
giving spirit, okay?
Akeena is clearly not
the homie you want
working at McDonald's.
If you're looking to
get something free,
no.
Okay, Akeena is there
to protect McDonald's
at all cost.
All right.
She, a 17-year-old
customer got choked out
by Akeena after
she stepped behind the counter
to take some ranch
dipping sauce after not
being helped by employees.
Now, we have all
been at a fast food restaurant
and been frustrated
by the service,
but that doesn't mean
you can take matters
into your own hands
and go behind the counter
and do their job for them, okay?
This little entitled-ass teenager
took their ass behind the calendar
to get some ranch dipping sauce
and Akeena, according to the police reports,
grabbed their arm.
When the teen tried to break free,
Akina allegedly grabbed her by the neck
and took the girl to the ground.
Sounds to me like the big show's finishing move.
Remember that showstopper choke slam
big show used to do?
That's what seemed like happened
in this situation.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
How many ranch packets did the victim secure?
Well, the police reports
does not reveal that information,
but it did reveal that the victim had visible injuries
to her neck and left elbow.
The incident was also captured on video.
Akeena was charged with child abuse.
Now, you probably say in yourself,
damn, Akina, did you have to do all that
for some McDonald's Ranch sauce?
I don't know if McDonald's Ranch sauce.
I've never had it.
Anybody ever had McDonald's Ranch sauce here?
Yes. It slaps?
Definitely slaps.
Okay, okay.
Now, if it was Polynesian sauce,
Chick-fil-A sauce, we probably could understand.
But McDonald's Ranch, I'm not sure.
Just says it slaps.
I'll take her word for it.
But it's not about what the team did that got her choke slammed.
It's the principal.
As much as I have to give a keen of this he-ha, because there is a part of me, I mean, as much as I have to give a keen of this he-ha, there is a part of me, that's like per.
That's it.
What is it?
Per.
What is it?
Per.
Per.
What's that?
That's just clock it.
Like, that's the tee.
Okay.
He wants to be a woman so bad.
Yes.
Someone has to teach D.Y.N.'s a lesson.
Okay, where was this 17-year-old's home training?
There is cause and effect.
The 17-year-old was the cause and effect is a keena choke slamming her
and being arrested and charged with child abuse.
And now she's about to lose her job at McDonald's.
Okay, she is clearly missing her calling as nightclub security.
But I digress.
Look, customer service 101.
If a customer breaches protocol, especially a minor,
throw hot fry grease on them.
No.
The appropriate response is the call management, our security,
our security. Okay, don't resort to physical violence
because McDonald's wouldn't front line for you
like that. And you should never under any
circumstance risk your job,
freedom, and a young person's safety
over a condiment. I know, I know that 17 year old was
risking it all too, but day 17,
you 31, you should know better. Now, once again,
you got a child abuse charge, which is going to look nasty on your record,
and you lost your job at Ronald McDonald's house.
This situation makes the ice cream machine
always being broken seem like good customer service.
please give Aquina Samson the biggest he-ha.
McDonald's Day dying for you, bro.
Yeah, that's a lot.
That's extra.
Just call the police.
I will say this, though.
A lot of people that work at fast food jobs
take their job way too serious.
Yeah, definitely.
If I want an extra packet of ketchup,
please give me an extra packet of ketchup.
I agree.
You know, if I say, hey, can I have extra ketchup?
That doesn't mean one packet.
Give me four or five.
If I ask for an addiction.
you know sweet and sour sauce
yeah give me one or two give me two three
I'm telling you you know I used to work in McDonald's
I used to give them packets away like testers
on a corner yeah because it's not
it's just hoarding them ketchup packets probably sit there
for months they do
they have a time just take it too serious
if I want my my fries to
overflow right the fried container you know
like give me a little extra
and it's not coming out of our money
isn't like we not buying as employees
like we're not buying the sauces
out of our money so it's crazy
Be a cheerful giver when you work at these fast food establishments.
I'm just saying.
You look like Jennifer Lewis.
Thank you.
Yes.
For Fantasian on American Idol.
That's when she, that's before she started.
You know what just told me off edge?
She told me that looked like a broke transgender.
I did not say, I did not say you like a broke transgender.
Because I don't know how the brook ones look.
That's what you said to me.
That's what you said to me.
But, no, I said you look like an old-ass trans woman.
That's what I said.
Same difference.
It looks like you was marching into the 60.
That's what that wig is given right now.
Well, did you know what you had to go through in the 60s?
If you had dogs sicked on you and hoses sprayed on you
and marching in a hundred-degree weather,
you would look like this too.
You think your wig is supposed to look prim and proper while you marching?
I just said it just looked like...
Why you Dominicans don't know our struggle?
Dominicans do not know how our people struggle.
Don't let them off the table price.
The Tyler is going to cast you tonight if you see this wig on you.
All right, well, I mean, tomorrow morning.
What is wrong with her?
I didn't mean to say tonight.
He'll cast you.
He'll cast you to cast you to miss you.
on afternoon. Sorry.
What is wrong with y'all? All right.
Thank you for that donkey of the day.
He looked just like
a bitch when I said, is he? Excuse me? He's going to what?
To watch a night.
Why tonight?
Why? I got to begin doing castings
at night. I really think of you should. I am a lazy.
Yeah. How dare you?
Oh, my God. He will talk to me during regular
office. Oh, my God.
Shal of me want to be a woman so bad. All right.
Now, we're all part woman.
50%
It took
50%
woman's
50% man
to make us
Oh so it's
woman
and you
Yes
Mm-hmm
This wig
Really has him
feeling himself
All right
All right guys
Can we focus
Can we focus
Classroom
Can we focus
Okay
Okay
All right
What in the
Ficketry are you
talking about
That is crazy
Uh-uh
I wish I could see
His wig
Like
What are you
Laughing about
He has a wig
Right now
It looks like
He's an old lady
in church
That's exactly
what it looks like.
They just finished frying
some fried chicken
and he's ready for...
Where did the wig come from?
Tell the whole context.
It came from a wig store.
No.
Lauren's stylist.
Her wig maker
went to go buy you
away from the store
because she said,
you are not worth the bundles.
So everything that y'all
are saying about my wig this morning
is exactly what y'all should be saying
to her, but y'all leave me on this island
to all to myself.
All right.
Morning everybody is DJ
and V. Jess Larry.
Sholomey and you guys.
We ought to meet you guys.
We ought to breakfast.
Love all the rules is here as well.
We got special guests in the building.
Come on now.
We have 112.
Cheer.
We have total.
And we have Case.
Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
How are you doing?
Great.
This is not a random link up.
Y'all going on tour together.
That's right, man.
This is the 112, room 112, 30th anniversary tour.
We're so excited.
Brought our brother Case and our sister's total with us.
So, you know, have a good time.
Man, first show is when?
November 5th.
5th, yeah.
November 12th, Stanford, Connecticut,
Brooklyn is November 13th.
So there's some members missing.
So are the members going to be on tour or this is the tour?
This is the tour.
This is the tour.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
My other members are coming.
You buy yourself, Jason.
You buy yourself.
What made now the right time for all of y'all to come together for this tour?
Oh, that's a great question, bro.
Honestly, man, it just felt right, it being 30 years, you know, us being in the game.
So it just makes sense for us to just get out there and just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've been doing,
you know, been rocking out with us for the last 30 years, man.
So, you know, we're really excited about it, man.
Like, we managed total in 112, we're managed by the same, you know, crew.
So, of course, that was an easy, you know, decision to make with that.
And then, in case, you know, being, you know, the bro.
Yeah, that's the bro.
You know what I mean?
And all of us having that catalog is definitely.
We wanted to bring back that 90 nostalgia, you feel me?
And all y'all can still sing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's, you know, not everybody doing it, but y'all can still sing.
That's important.
That's good.
Yes, man.
How did y'all find that balance back in the day between being, like,
sexy but strong, but still screeed with it?
Like, how did y'all find that balance?
It was just natural.
Like, that's just who we are.
I grown up, Jersey, like, how we were.
And that's what made us to me.
That's what made us who we were.
Total.
The name started out as total.
because we were all
individuals in our own way
you know so it was
it wasn't like you had to buy the brand
we came as we were the brand yeah
how was the bad boy era back then
growing up right because it was a time
90s 2000 it was nothing but bad boy
in radio nothing but bad boy
on the streets mixed tapes to clubs
how was that era where just it felt like
anything y'all did hit
it was a beautiful thing
it was fun it was
yeah that's where we learned a lot of our
grind from that whole era, just
grinding, just out there
going to the tunnel. Like, it was just
fun. It was just like a big
old party. Yep.
Yeah, that tunnel, that's crazy, right?
Us coming from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it was a different, it was like a different
culture, so, you know, you can
imagine how that felt. He's coming, I know he's from the
South Carolina, you know what I'm saying? So,
you're coming to New York. A culture shot.
The culture was a shock, you know, so, you know,
but it was so much fun because it was
just like, okay, clubs, smart,
smaller. But, you know what I mean?
But it was like in your face. So, you know what I'm saying?
But we learned a lot
musically here.
What about you, for you, Case? Now,
you weren't on bad boy. You were on Def Jam.
You were a songwriter. You had,
you have the, I always say you have that one wedding
song that you will get paid for for the rest of your life.
Happily ever after. Yeah, let's hope.
So how was it coming up for you
during that time? Because at that time, you were
Def Jam. Def Jam was heavy hip-hop.
And you was probably one of the only on.
R&B singers at the time.
I mean, it was cool for me,
except for the only problem
was they was learning on the fly,
how to do R&B,
and so I get caught up in that some time.
But, yeah, I mean,
you know how big they was then,
so that part was cool.
It was just a lot of times
they had a lot of hip-hop sensibilities
because it's hip-hop label.
But one of the things that helped me
was that I was the last artist
that Russell personally signed a deaf jet.
So I've always called him
and be like, yo, I can snitch.
Did you know their records
was going to be so timeless,
like Touch Me, T,
me happily ever, ever?
I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do.
Like, I never wanted to make, like, trendy stuff.
I always wanted to make music.
Like, my parents would listen to stuff from, like, 20, 30 years earlier,
and they had me doing it.
And so my thing was, like, if I could do that,
then I'd be happy, and then everything else would fall in line.
You worked with Mary Jay, Beyonce, Foxy Brown.
Usher.
Usher.
Who else?
There's a bunch of people.
L.L.
Ghostface.
Ghostface.
Genuine, Tyrese.
Genuine, Tauris.
Jam and Lewis.
I felt like.
Def Jam didn't treat you like a regular artist, right?
With Total and 112, I would see them out in the club.
Like, Bad Boy would have them out.
Def Jam artists, Def Jam would have them out.
I didn't see you, Def Jam put you out as much like that.
Was it because you didn't want to go out?
They probably didn't know what to do with him because he was R&B.
I think a lot of it, yeah, first of all, I hate going out.
Okay.
So if I didn't have to be there, that's why you always be like,
y'all ain't hear any lot of stuff about you because I didn't know how to, yeah.
I'll be over here.
I mean, I wasn't really big on going out
or when I did, I'd be somewhere else
unless I had to be, you know, somewhere with them.
Gotcha.
Did you guys, well, Mike, I saw you say that
you feel like, you know, you guys' first album,
without that, you don't think the R&B
would be as prevalent or as worldwide as it is right now?
So, yeah, the mind frame was we started that whole trend.
It's like the way music sounds now,
112 had a lot to do with that
because no one can really give us a group
that did it.
the way that we did it before
112, like as far as singing over
hip-hop beats and stuff like that.
Like you are challenging, but find me a group that did it
because back in the day, what you had,
the A side and you had the B side, right? And then on the
B side, so the records, right? They had the records.
You had the up-tempo records where they were singing, but they were
always all that singing over
up-tempo beats and stuff. It was like,
it was confusing. Puff, one thing that Puff told us
was like, when you're in the club,
when you're recording a record, right?
sing the song as if
you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holly the girl
you ain't going to be in this girl talking about
you're going to
girl I want to be with you
no one else you know what I mean
it's going to be something smooth and so when we wrote
records we wrote the uptembo records and then
Slim having the voice being able to
just lay on the tracks the way that we did like
that started unhoed everywhere
people now like when you hear
R&B it has a hip hop element
element to it as well it's not just R&B
it's a hip-hop element.
But isn't that the bad boy
formula though?
Wasn't that Diddy?
Like, I feel like
did he did that
like with J. Bligey.
I feel like he did that
with Mary J. Blige.
I feel like he did that with
total.
I'll give you that.
I'll give you Mary J.
Blige because, yeah,
she helped,
because we always say that
that Mary is between Mary and 112,
but 112 really.
And then, yeah,
Puff did, you know,
he did contribute
because we came in with just,
man, we are and beat.
We aren't beat,
we're like, forget all this stuff,
man.
Like hip hop,
that's going cheap and how sound
and all this stuff and he's
had the vision, it was like, yo, this is what's going to separate y'all from the Drew Hills,
from the jackets, from the, you know, the adjets and all these other groups that were coming
out at the same time.
And you know what?
That didn't make perfect sense, right?
Instead of all in, I would love to come up to me in a class.
And let me tell you what you want to do.
Like, you're just straight up.
Straight up.
You got my attention.
Right, what you wanted?
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
That's exactly what it was.
Yeah.
Because nine times out of ten, they ain't going to be able to sing.
So he's like, bro, all that in my ear, like, I don't want to hear all that.
Yeah.
You know what I agree with Mike's assessment.
Not to start any arguments here, but Case, do you agree with that?
Yeah.
I mean, it was part of it.
I mean, during that area, that's when hip-hop and R&B was coming together.
Yeah.
Yeah, so pretty much.
And I feel like Bad Boy was at the forefront of it.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
Because Total was hip-hop with that touch of R&B.
You're R&B group, but I think we were more based hip-hop with the touch of R&B.
And Mary definitely was the pioneer of that sound.
When Puff did the remixes with Jodacy.
because Jodacy was just the R&B
and then he brought the hip-hop element of him.
Yeah, it goes facing Rayquan on the freaking new remix.
You know, like, I can't even,
I don't want to hear, can't you see without Biggie Part?
Like, I hated when some of the urban A.C.
stations back in the day didn't play rap,
they were just played the R&B.
Oh, I hated that.
I was like, they did that what y'all do with,
um, you guys don't like making part.
I mean, yeah, they did.
Yeah, they'd do it.
That's so facts.
That's so facts.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yes, because they didn't want,
a lot of urban Atecs didn't play a rap.
Yeah, you got played a record.
Yeah.
How do y'all balance egos, you know, uh, you know, when you're dealing with three legendary
acts who all had their individual moments, you know?
It's, it's a respect level.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like, because I'm, I'm actually fans.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I love that.
And I know it sounds cliche or whatever, but it's, it's the truth.
And, you know, we, we, we, so often we don't tell the truth, you know, we're getting this
type of form or whatever, but we are genuinely, like, total was our first pick to be on
this room 112 tour. Case was our
first pick to be on this. Because
Case, his catalog, we just spoke about. His
catalog, ridiculous. Total. Ridiculous.
One 12. Ridiculous. And we
wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia,
you know, and just bring back that whole era
of, I knew where I was when I heard only
you for the first time. You know, I knew
where I was when I heard Cupid. When I heard,
I'm missing you, or when I heard, can't you see
for the first time? Like, I remember where I
was when I heard these records.
Now what I was to be where I was at when I was.
There's not. There you go.
I think that ego is healthy on a tour, especially like this,
because you have to, if you use it the right way.
Like, for me, it's like, okay, I'm going to try to kill everybody.
And then they're going to feel the same way.
And then the fans are the one that win, as opposed to people who just go up there
and don't care.
We know ego, like, I just got to check.
We come from that.
Yeah, you got it.
We come from that.
We come from that.
We go to our tour and we're like, yo, you know, total, 112 just killed y'all.
And that's how you got to do it.
That's how you got to do it.
That's how you should threaten us all the time.
Friendly competition.
And that's the best, because the only people
that win is the fans. Was there ever
a low time for y'all?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely
was. I think for us, the
resurgence of the 90s, you know, was
something that was what we appreciated
more than anything. And that happened about what maybe
almost like six, seven years ago. Yeah, it was like
where the pandemic,
yeah, around that area. You didn't know
when, you didn't know what
the state of music and how the
industry and how we were going to perform
was going to be. Remember
everybody start experimenting
with the whole, you know,
taping, you know, and then
in the video, it was just,
yeah, I thought we were going to just, it's going to
be that, you know, so
so much gratitude now to,
you know what I mean, see it for where it is.
And we feel like
it's a blessing that of all
the errors they chose to pick,
they picked the 90s.
You know what I'm saying? So, thank you.
You know, I would want to go back.
I really want to experience it in New York.
like oh man
oh man
you would have
I said that one time
you laughed at me
you go back in time
I don't remember that come
I just feel like
the time that you guys
were like the top
it was such a good time here
it doesn't seem real
like when we hear
the stories
or like
you can just sit here listening
you all talk about
just walking in the studio
on Biggie's just there
and like you know
I can't imagine
being young
and just being like
on top
yeah like in that time
But you're working so hard that you don't even realize it.
You know, like you don't even realize where it took us to step away from it, you know,
and, okay, we can use it as our downtime, you know, and say that that was a time for us to go back
and look at it and say, man, we did more than just seen, you know, we contributed to a culture.
Like, we are part of history, you know.
Defined the culture.
Yes.
So it was amazing.
It's looking at it now, being older, like you're looking at it now, because my kids now,
they're going back and they googling like dad
y'all they're pizza and cream
oh that's your video bro that's me
that's you dad you didn't already
my kid no because I don't go around
I don't go around hey look at Mike for one time
you know I don't I don't do that
you know like they just
they grew up as normal as I
hoped I could because
I could teach them to be because it's such
a mental strain
that the industry takes like it gives
but it also takes
one of the things is you know the lack of
of you know the mental
of health that comes along
you know what I'm saying with that
because you're inundated with all of this
you know you have to be perfect
every time you see you're out
your face is always got to be right
your clothes got to always be right
oh man they don't fell off bro like
I just came from the gym you know
but I think the camera messed that up
the camera messed it up
because when like the reason I asked if he was out
is I would see everybody out right
I was a kid growing up so I was
go to Grants to them and see y'all on a hundred twenty-fifth street.
I'll go to the tunnel and see y'all in the tunnel
and different things. And there was no VIP area.
No, it was. We were all together. That's what it does.
And it gave you a connection with the artist. But there was no phone,
so it was no, I'm taking a picture. Right. It was no, you know what you
possibly do if you want, and nobody went to La Coney, but you might ask for an
autograph, but nobody wanted to come to the club and do that. So it gave you a
connection. And I feel like people are not enjoying the moment.
Yeah. Yeah. I did that with our Beyonce's tour. And I'm like, I'm like, I've never
went live, ever went live on
Instagram. And
I wasn't expecting this. Beyonce came
out and she just started speaking.
I'm on live. I'm like, I'm on live,
y'all, this is B. And she started
speaking and I started crying. I was not
expecting. I was like, okay, guys, I got to go.
Literally, I might have been filming for like
10 seconds. You've got to be
in a moment because it's an experience.
You know what I mean? Watching the back is not
the same. No, it's not. I just got
to ask one more. I'm sorry.
No one else beat. Will y'all confused when your
heard that beat? No.
No, because there was
snares all over that place.
Well, we did
not know what was going to be put over
it. Okay. Because that was Terry
once again, Terry Robinson. It's like
how are you going to write over this?
That's what I said when I heard it.
And when we heard it, we went crazy.
It's one of my favorites.
It hits so hard.
If we could just get all
of those acts on the stage
one day, we're going to stay hopeful.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's crazy.
It is.
That joke's crazy.
All right.
Well, thank you guys for joining us.
One-12 total.
Love y'all.
Get your tickets for tour.
Thank you.
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