The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF(NORE, Will Packer, Tony Baker Interview. Would You Do Jail Time For Your Mom Topic)

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

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And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast, Finding Sexy Sweat. At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat. A couple of years ago, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat. A couple years ago, we set out to find him. But in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up. But then I see my son's not moving. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. You guys, this is history. What you've done, what you've done. You guys have built a platform for your own success. I'm She don't spare nobody. Charlemagne the God. What made you think the liking of controversial questions would take you as far as you? I like this show! Thanks, Breakfast Club. I'm talent. I'm talent. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm talent.

I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Malik from Chicago. What's up, Malik? Get it off your chest, brother. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Malik from Chicago.

What's up, Malik? Get it up here, please. Peace, Malik. Man, I just wanted to, like, spread some positivity, man. A few months ago, I lost my job or whatnot, and recently I started a new business. I lost a lot of weight, like 50, 60 pounds. Okay. Yeah, it's been going good, man.

Oh, I love to hear that, brother. That's the stuff, yeah. For a fat duck from here. I was wondering if I can split a quick 16 to y'all. Well, listen Why do we need that in our lives? No Should be talking about your new business that you just started work. What if you about the rap about it? Okay business. Yeah. Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it. All right. Yo, my head is hard. I got a stick in my head. I need a break. I roll an ape. I feel an ache. I get the title of knowledge. I'm hearing pops like I'm Sean Amale.

Hey, I was begging for my food. Call me broke now. I beg your pardon. Trouble in the car that we was eight beats. We better pardon it. I told my teachers that I ain't eat. I'm really starving. My uncle told me I should make peace with the **** but I'm hearing this ****. Everybody ain't me and they can't be I got a new connection. Hello. I'm getting worked on ain't talking new reflection I'm in a group with my brothers. We had a one direction. I hit a once I remember she in my recollection She wanted him but I got another intersection She wanted to know how I'm constantly winning best and I'll make waves baby girl. They better get

What business is that? Wait a minute. I know, right? You said something about stealing apes and all that. What business is that? What business is this? I got a content creation business, so I really just be making a bunch of content videos

or whatnot, but I'm also a artist, so it works out for me. What's funny to me is it sound like he passed the phone to somebody, but he was just talking regular. It sounded like he passed the phone. That's me for sure. That's me for sure. I just like he passed the phone to somebody. Remember he was just talking regular? Sounds like he passed the phone. That's me for sure.

That's me for sure. I just had to turn on my audience voice. You know how it goes. I got that. I got you. All right, man. Good luck. Keep on keeping on.

Can I put out my Instagram real quick? You should have did that first. Right. My Instagram is underscore fader. That's underscore F-A-D-A-H, like the magazine by A-H. That was good to me. All right, brother. So it's not like the magazine by A-H. Yeah, that's the way to be. All right, brother. So it's not like the magazine.

Not the same. Fader, like the magazine, just not spelled fader. God bless. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, breakfast color family? What's up, bro? Peace, peace. What's up, brother?

Hey, truck driver, what's going on, brother? Oh, you f***ing in the early in the morning. Pause. Hey, chill, chill, peace. What's up, brother? Hey, truck driver, what's going on, brother? Oh, you f***ing in me early in the morning. Pause. Hey, chill, chill, chill. Nah, man, look, I just wanted to say, man, your boy is blessed, your boy is happy, I'm still alive. You know, I got robbed. My house got robbed and destroyed last week, man,

but hey, I'm still alive, still going, man. I'm sorry to hear that, Black man. Where you from, bro? I'm from South, Charleston, man? I'm from South Carolina. 843 when it was a home invasion? Yeah I mean I wasn't home so I guess it was just a regular burglary but them boy destroyed my whole apartment you know I was saving up man them boy took my cash at my house took a few more things but hey man I'm at least you alive. At least you alive you know what what I'm saying? I was just having a conversation with one of the homies this morning. Actually, me and Duval were talking this morning

and I was just like, you know, we've lost all sense of purpose and what's important and nothing's more important than life. And you know, folks take their own lives and the lives of others for granted every day. So the fact that you, even though went through this hard situation, you know that you can get the material items back.

Your life can't get that back, so I'm glad you're here, brother. Absolutely. Hey, that's real, I appreciate that. Hey, Charlamagne, man. Hey, can I get a book? Of course, come on now. I'll put you a hold of the information.

I sent that to Charlton ASAP. That's home team. Kirsten, did you have the alarm on your house, bro? I had no alarm, man, and I just got my camera removed, so I didn't have no camera, no alarm, so my camera removed so like I didn't have no camera no alarm so Man, I pretty much got to get it back in my uh With this hard work, man. That's horrible brother. All right, brother. I'm sorry for that. Hold on again And I tell everybody out there don't get too content

I know a lot of times things get comfortable and you might forget to put your alarm on your house You might forget to check the windows and lock the doors Don't get comfortable because when you get comfortable you never know what will happen and I tell that to everybody myself included Well get it off your chest 800 585 105 one if you need to vent hit us up now is the Breakfast Club Good morning the Breakfast Club This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051.

We wanna hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on? This is Tamika, y'all residents. What's up, Tamika the resident? Tamika, what's up? Hey, what's going on, y'all? I just wanted to give y'all some positive vibes this morning

and give a big shout out to one of my bestest friends, Mina. Today is her birthday. And I just want to give her a happy birthday shout out. She's all the way in Jersey, and I'm over here in California. And I really wish I would have been able to see her this year, but maybe next year. Happy birthday, Mina. Yeah, no happy birthday Like that from you Jess. Oh, yeah

Okay, yes, but you not gay yes, you can't say gay too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I know I know you gay So that's why I said she okay. Oh, I'm sorry, you know, no, it's not good. No, I'm not gay no more like that right now You've been gay before I've been gay before Look like Brittany. She do kind of look like She got dreads and everything what's the don't look? That's what's up And she's a truck. No, that's right. Why they keep coming for my man, though, like she could have been Chris She could have been Chris child I'm telling you. She could have been Chris if she just had a penis. Yes stop it. Oh another thing about that penis stuff Charlamagne listen studs we don't have

vibrators we have straps. That's what we strap on. Our thing don't vibrate. Our thing is just damn big heavy and hard. You heard? Yeah I? I've been seeing the woke studs now, they be taking the crystals that look like penises and putting them out in the full moon and letting them charge up. Stop, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do it, don't do it. I haven't even heard of that.

He say, he stay lying. But y'all have a good day. I love y'all. You too. Thank you, me too. It's true. I love y'all, have a great day. Love you too.

No, it's true. They be getting the crystals that are shaped like penises and they put them out in the full moon and let the moon charge them. Yo shut up. And they take them and just sit them on their clitters. That's what the woke ones do. And then they play Eric Abadu and Jill Scott. His clown, in his mind. Hello, who's this?

Yeah, this is Dwayne Sharp. What's up, Dwayne Sharp. This is Dwayne. Yeah, I don't have no comments or nothing. I would just like to know if I can get a picture of all three of y'all together. How you gonna do that? I'm just thinking, y'all, let me one, you know what I'm saying, if I can put in my man cave. All you gotta do is go online. There's pictures with all of us online. Just Google it. You sound like Biggie though.

Oh, okay. Just Google it. That's what I think. We appreciate you wanting us in your man cave though, but you know, just Google it. You sound like Biggie though. Oh, okay. Just Google it. All right, that's what's up, thanks. We appreciate you wanting us in your man cave though, but you know, yeah, just Google it. A picture come up. Yeah. All right, yes sir, thank you, appreciate it. That's the rest?

Yes, yes, yes. There it is. There it is. Have a good one, thank you. He got me confused. All right, there. Let me look and see, make sure. Yeah, there's pictures of us on my...

Yeah, we did a shoot. Get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. His new book, Who Better Than You? The Art of Healthy Arrogance and Dreaming Big is out now.

Ladies and gentlemen, Will Packer. Family, what's going on? What's up? How are you? Bless Black and how are you feeling? How you feel? I'm feeling amazing. You know, I'm up here.

I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms in media right now. Interesting time in media, you know, media ebbs and flows. We're in an ebb right now in the movie business, Charlamagne. I don't know if you know. Yeah. Just, you know, coming off the strikes, coming off of COVID, like the movie industry never really recalibrated. So there's a lot of folks out there that are hurting right now. A lot of folks that aren't working, a lot of actors, a lot of work writers.

And so as a producer, you know, I'm just trying to keep people hired, trying to do what I do and create content. Most people out there, they don't realize because there's so much content out there and so many streaming services. It's like, oh, it's everything out there. I can see whatever I want. But actually the media companies are making a lot less. So it's interesting time in the business, man. Who better than you is the name of the book. What made you decide to write this? Yo, you know, I have been in the movie game for almost 30 years now. And I have dealt with some of the biggest names,

some of the most impressive successful people, some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process, I have gained a set of skills that I wanna share with people about how you can be successful and manifest a more full life. How you can use some of the skills that I've learned that are transferable to any industry to navigate,

be it you wanna start a new endeavor, you wanna overcome a challenge, you wanna pivot in your life. And so I'm telling stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with some of my Hollywood folks, but it's really lessons, right? It's lessons about this is how you deal with people, how you position yourself to succeed,

and how you have healthy arrogance. Now to be confused with toxic arrogance, right? Toxic arrogance walks in a room and and says I'm better than everybody here I'm gonna win cuz you're gonna lose right? I'm better than you healthy arrogance walks in a room and says, okay Number one I belong in this room, right? The most successful people feel that they don't feel like am I supposed to be here with all these important people? Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here However, I also have something to add to this room. This room is better because

I'm in it. And I'm gonna get other people to understand how they and I have a commonality in terms of our goal. If you can get other people to see the value in what you're going after, then you can then get them to roll in the same direction as you and work towards your own goal. That's what leadership is, getting other people to realize that it's not me against you. If I can get you to understand that together we both benefit from working together and accomplishing things that are my goals as well as your goals, your chance for success is increased. You know when I read about you talk about healthy arrogance, I hear your interviews about healthy arrogance, it

feels like you're saying you just got, it's like a sense of worthiness. It's value. It is. It is very much understanding the value to place on yourself, right? You understand, Charlamagne, because you talk about mental health a lot. We all have this drum beat in our head, right? It can be a negative drum beat of, I'm not ready, I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills,

I'm not prepared. More and more you tell yourself that the louder those voices get but there's a Confidence muscle that you can build that you can grow by telling yourself the exact opposite that I am worth Right that I am prepared But it's really about assigning value the thing I say to people that understand from the time you are born Into the time you leave this earth you are building your brand everything you do right? I mean you can't make mistakes everybody does And to the time you leave this earth, you are building your brand, everything you do, right? I mean, you can't make mistakes, everybody does.

But every decision you make and everything you do is building your brand and it is telling people what value to assign to you. Whether that's somebody that is looking to invest in you, looking to date you, looking to just hang out with you. You are telling them what your value is. And you have to be healthily arrogant in the way that you force other people to recognize your value. Damn.

Yeah. So if you don't have nobody, does that mean you're not worth nothing? Well, you know, I'm not going to say that. Well, you mean like a relationship? Yeah. Well, that just means that you have to be sure that you're surrounding yourself with people that understand your value. It might mean that you're worth more than people want to give you credit for. It might mean you're single because other

people don't recognize your value and you're not willing to compromise for it. You had something to say Charlemagne? What? Hit dog will holler won't they? I'm asking the brother a question. Why is Charlemagne's neck sassy? You saw it coming this way though, didn't you? I did. The sassiness of the neck that caught me off guard. Is that what it is? Are you whipping your hair back before? I was not whipping my hair at all. I was just asking you a question because I like what you're talking about.

Okay, alright. Well yes, absolutely. So if somebody happens to be an amazing, beautiful single sister, I don't know the relationship status of everybody here, but let's just say present company You can't over there. No why well? She said you had a sassy neck Imposter syndrome yeah, and when you when did that like when you get past that Where did you deal with that at all yourself? Absolutely deal with everybody deals with everybody Gets to a point where they feel like yo and do I belong right? Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces?

And I've been very very fortunate to be in some incredible rooms with some people that are you know Some of the most powerful people from around the world. As I said, what I realize is that when I walk in those rooms, I cannot question if I'm supposed to be there. I need to realize what is it that I have that nobody else in this room has? And how can I double down on that, right? So, black man, African American filmmaker in Hollywood,

not a lot of folks at my level in the rooms that I'm in. Oftentimes, it's all white people in those rooms. What I choose to do instead of saying, okay, I'm the only black person in this room, I know they racist, I know they're looking at me a certain way, I know they have a negative perception. I'm walking in the room and I'm thinking, okay, you know what, I'm bringing something that nobody else can bring. When I talk about my perspective, when I talk about my audience, when I talk about my community, nobody else can debate me on that. So I'm the only one with that

lived experience. Whatever it is in the rooms and the circles that you're in, what's the unique thing that you have and then you triple down on that. That will help with that imposter syndrome. The other thing is that you have to understand, like, you don't have to be somebody that's just born with like an overabundance of confidence. It's something that you can build. But you do have to build it by putting a success with a success with a success, right? Like just like a volume did you say a check with a check with a check? You got to build the successes and sometimes to do that you got to come back and not say okay my first success has to be so big, right? Just accomplish something. I call it fabricating momentum.

I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first rung. The very first thing, I'm trying to get started, I don't have any money, I don't know people, I don't have a network, that's okay, right? Don't make the first thing you're trying to do to climb the mountain, right? That's a lot, that's a momentous task. Make the first thing, buy the shoes, hiking boots,

then buy a rope, then drive by the mountain and look at it Well, you know you've done three things right get started do something that helps to build that confidence. We all need that We're still kicking it with well packers new book who better than you the art of healthy arrogance and dreaming big is out now Charlamagne I want to get to the art of the pivot but first I want to ask you about the chapter that says stay in your lane Yeah, just just make it wide, that says stay in your lane. Just make it wide. Lean into your thing. How does one avoid being typecasted by leaning into their thing and when do you know the pivot?

Yeah. You know, the whole point of that chapter is about when you have something that you do really, really well. Because many times people are afraid of being locked into something that people will think that's all I can do right? But if you do that thing and you do it really really well do not stop, okay? Don't stop the most successful people have a thing that they do and they do it Well, then they use the ability to be successful in a lane to go out and do something else

I'm only able to write this book with a major publisher because I've been very successful in a particular medium. Right? Now I'm able to go and do other things. So don't worry about that, oh, well I can do so much other stuff. What's the thing you do really well? Do that, triple down on that. Be the best person in that particular field.

And by the way, find your passion within that, right? Too many times people are telling me, well, I'm not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my passion and before I go out and work really hard. And I'm telling you, you're building a brand from day one. Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be a filmmaker. I will admit that.

But I was, I did not. That was not my dream growing up. But I found that I was really good at knowing how to hire actors and raise money and self-distribute and Then I found the passion in storytelling later So I found the thing I was really really good at and then I found my passion within it I encourage people to do that don't worry about being typecast stay in your lane, but you can make it wide I'm not trying to pigeonhole you and I'm not trying to limit what you can do But stay in your lane.

Too often we are trying to do too much and now you can't be the person that's doing everything the best. That is just not how humans work. What's the thing you do well? Triple down on that. So once you've leaned into your thing and you find that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing. It can be a pivot where you use that thing.

You use your ability. You use your ability. You use your brand. You use the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space. You have done the exact same thing. You use the fact that you have credibility in one lane in order to then expand your lane. Right. But it should still all be about this is the thing that I do. That's why I say stay in your lane but make your lane wide. Is there ever a time where like you're because I mean I'm look I remember when you told the story about Kevin and what the last time you guys were here yeah and now I'm seeing in context of this book of like Who Better Than You and I feel like in that moment he had the arrogance to be like I can do both of these I'm

going to be fine and it's all going to work out but things like that can kind of get pretty tricky because what if it hadn't have worked out right is ever a moment where you have to tell somebody who's coming to you for this type of who better than you advice like Maybe this is not it for you right now. Maybe there's someone better than you right now But that doesn't mean later you might not be able to have that who better than you Eric You have to be honest with yourself number one, right? We live in a world where people think either they are too great or they are too awful people think either they are too great or they are too awful. Rudyard Kipling has a poem called If and my favorite stanza in that poem is if

you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same. That is saying that both triumph and disaster are imposters, neither of them are real. Right? Too many times because we post them on social media Everybody tell you oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever so good or the opposite They just hate knowing telling you how awful you are. Neither of that is true. You got to stay even-keeled So the first thing you got to do is be honest about you and your skill set It's the only way you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors You got to have a very honest conversation

One of the things I talk about in the book is how we have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person. You're there encouraging yourself, right? Giving yourself positivity, telling yourself how you're ready, how you're prepared, what you can do, but also being very, very honest with yourself. I don't care what you tell the world. Don't lie to yourself. A lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin, a lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Don't lie to yourself. Lie to your mom, lie to your cousin, lie to your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Do not lie to yourself. Be very, very clear about what it is that you do well. Yeah, you know, I wanna talk to you

about the Packer family motto too. If you wanna have what others want, you have to do what others don't. Yeah. I see you got your mom with you. Did it come from her? I got moms. I got, you know what?

It's something that mom instilled in me. You know, when I was growing up, mom and dad they they took me like, you know Like Simba and the Lion King and lifting me up and said, you know Whatever the Sun touches is your son like I encourage my folks with kids do that Tell your kids cuz that's when they're the most impressionable tell them they can do anything They told me that and so I was very audacious growing up with my family. It's me my wife We have four children So that's the six-pack if you want to have what others don't, you have to be willing to do

what others won't, period. That is the mantra. The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you want to do. If anybody else can do it, then it's not special. You're not going to get it, right? You're not going to get something that's unique You've got to be willing to do what others are not to get that thing And I believe that the more you do hard things The better you become at hard things the more hard things you do the easier hard things become So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from doing the things that everybody else says is crazy That's the only way you're gonna get strength and to build that muscle is by doing those hard things Why say dream big because your dream has got to be so big because there's gonna be challenges along the way

It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past those challenges Inevitably because if the dream is just a mediocre dream like man, it'd be kind of cool to do that Then when you run into a speed bump, that's really hard. You're gonna say, you know what? It ain't worth it I'm cool, right? But if the dream is so big, right? I mean, so big for color, 4K HD. Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Rees. I am the creator and host of Hello Black, Hello Queer, Hello Christian.

A fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast that explores society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to Hello Black, Hello Queer, Hello Christian to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look. I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice

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Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast, Hell and Gone, I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've received hundreds of messages from people across the country begging for help with unsolved murders. I was calling about the murder of my husband.

It's a cold case. I've never found her and it haunts me to this day. The murderer is still out there. Every week on Hell and Gone Murder Line, I dig into a new case, bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator to ask the questions no one else is asking.

Police really didn't care to even try. She was still somebody's mother. She was still somebody's daughter. She was still somebody's sister. There's so many questions that we've never gotten any kind of answers for. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Hell and Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145.

Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the revolution.

But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.

Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st, and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Ad free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis. We were interns at the Nashville Tennessean, but the most unforgettable part?

Our roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakley, sports editor and aspiring rapper. And his stage name? Sexy Sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea. Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone. In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911.

Police cuffed him face down. He slipped into a coma and died. I'm like thanking you, but then I see my son's not moving. No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Like super crazy, beyond your wildest dreams Dreams big then when you do hit that hard moment those challenges you know it's worth it to keep going and keep fighting because the dream is big enough. Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into a movie? Yeah. Or is it a mini series? Yeah yeah I mean it's I'm Will Packer. Okay. You know I can do that. I saw Heather in the background. You know what Heather say in the background, I could do that. I saw Heather in the background. You know what Heather say in the background. I don't know.

I just saw something. Oh. I was giving Aileen like maybe no, don't do it right now or something. You know what? I made this book not to turn into a movie or a TV show. You never say never because, you know, one of my biggest movies is Think Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you. He never thought of that as a movie.

Never. He never wrote it for that. I wrote this to give the master mentorship that I didn't have I have people coming to me a lot and saying Tell me about your success story. Tell me about your failures Tell me about what you had to overcome and so when I tell these stories, right and I talk about you know Beyonce turning me down five times or Idris Elba You know almost not walking the carpet at the first Emmys and how you get past that like when I tell these stories I'm doing that so that other people can benefit from so I could turn it to a movie That's not what I made it for I literally made this book

So that I could influence other folks who are either on their way up thinking about making a pivot Or living a life that they know could be a little more fulfilling. We appreciate you for joining us. We'll pack a new book who better than you to art a healthy arrogance and dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see you go out there and buy this book make it a New York Times bestseller. Appreciate you fam. I appreciate you man. Thank you thank you all for having me Charlamagne and thank you because you are somebody that you know and I told you, we saw each other at the Democrat National Convention, and I told you I had written my first book, and I was inspired by your books, and by reading

your books, and just seeing that process and the ground that you put in. So you never know who's watching and who you're inspiring. So I thank you, my brother, thank you for having me. It's Will Packer. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Hi everybody, it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Packer. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hi everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the Guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we'll open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Sean Kingston and his mom, Janiece, she's 62, was found guilty on all charges in their luxury fraud scheme trial. Alright. Now she faces 20 years in prison. That's the maximum for federal wild fraud cases. Now we're asking 800-585-1051 if your

child or parent got jammed up would you take the charge for them? All right. Now um Jess said look her mom lived a good life already mom got a sit sit down for a little bit. I'm taking the charges for mom. I ain't gonna let mom sit. My mom is 70, but I ain't gonna let mom spend 20 years in jail so she gonna get out of 82. Man, shut up. I'm not letting mom sit. You're lying.

You're lying. I'm not letting my mom sit. First of all, you got young ass kids. If your 70 year old mom did something that actually caused her to go to jail, if she actually committed a crime, you are not about to go to jail and leave your little young kids out here for your mom that don't make no sense

why your mom shouldn't been doing what she was doing well well they did it together but if he had the opportunity if we did it together and I had the opportunity I'm not letting my mom die in jail because that's really what it is well how about how about you should have said hey mom maybe we shouldn't be doing these crimes because guess what if we get locked up you're gonna go to jail for a long time and end up dying in jail where was the cut where was the empathy then to say stop I mean I'm still mad at Tasha for taking that all that for all the charges for Tariq I really feel like just that was a TV show Jess that

wasn't real nah I grew a Jess Three little ass shit and went to jail And if you Sean Kingston and his mom y'all was out here doing dirt together Mom should have known better mom was out here setting a bad example Parents are supposed to lead by example you are here doing dirt with your son. Yeah, y'all both going to jail Hello, who's this? Hi. Hello. It's a champ from Brooklyn. Hey, what's up? Now, would you take the charge for your mom or your son? I'm taking the charge for my son. What about your mom? My mom? I don't know about my mom. It's the

same, the same, like the same scenario. She should have been able to come. She should have been able to tell me not to do what I'm doing. So why should I take the charge for her? So why would you take the charge for your son? If your son out here is selling dope, killing people, and then they get arrested and go to jail, you gonna go take the charge for him? No, not in that sense. In the sense of what Sean Kingston, what happened with Sean Kingston and his mom.

Yeah, I'm gonna take the charge for my son because as an adult, while we were both doing the crime, I should have been an adult to tell him not to do it. But why can't we split the time? You need to split the time in here with me too. We both need to learn. Hey, the crip, the crip. I'm just saying, like, all right, if we split the time, somebody's getting wasted.

It's time, somebody's time getting wasted. Okay, we both did the crime, but he can go on and still live his life. I'll be in the jail and do whatever time I need to do. When I get out, I'll be still old again, so I don't know. But I just put things- Let me ask you this. You do the time, right?

And what if he go out and he's still scamming because he free? Now he locked up for something else and you already serving time for something that you all did together. Damn. But we did it together. We did it together. I'm doing my time. So both of y'all need to go do your time. He's doing his time for whatever he did on the phone. Huh?

But that's what's happening in this situation. Sean Kingston gonna end up getting his time and the mom gonna end up getting her time. Cause they were committing crimes together. Well we have somebody on the line that this is actually happening to them now. We have an and good morning Good morning. Now and what happened with your mom? My mom murdered my grandmother I'm not sitting for that with mom gotta go hold that one. No, no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bills and then my grandmother was over it and she was getting her put out the house and I guess my mom was like like that was too far for her and so a week before the actually fiction court she was murdered in her home. How'd your brother get into it? Because he was at the house there was no one at the house besides them and my children but my children are the ones that had to wake

up to the murder. Wow. I'm so sorry. And so your brother is saying that he's the one who did it because he don't want the mom to go to prison. In a sense, he's actually given convicting stories. He's like, she didn't do it. I didn't do it. I don't know who did it. I was pleased. Like it's, it's a fair, they're spinning around it. Um, and the trial is set for the 21st of April. So hopefully whenever we get here, Jessi will be served, but right now they're

kind of going back and forth playing like a cat and mouse game. So question, how are you sure? How are you so sure that your mom is the one who did it? She's the only one that had any grudge or hatred towards my grandmother. My grandmother was a very, very loving woman. Um, and she was the only one that was getting evicted out the house or hatred towards my grandmother. My grandmother was a very, very loving woman. And she was the only one that was getting evicted out the house because of drug prescriptions

and other drugs, abuses. That's why I was there overseeing my grandmother, to make sure she was okay. But it gotta be proof though, like even though your mom might have hated your grandma, if there's no ballistics on your mom's head, like, you know what I mean? It's still gonna be proof. And that's exactly why we're going to trial on the 21st, there's no ballistics on your mom's head. Like, you know what I mean? So maybe you can prove it.

And that's exactly why we're going to trial on the 21st. That way all the ballistic reports, all of the reports can come out. Everyone's testimonies, all the evidence, all the adult protective orders, everything is gonna come out to show how my grandmother was afraid of this woman and she took her life even though she gave

her life. Damn. Can I ask you one question and if it's too personal you don't have to answer because I'm just wondering from a from a trauma aspect and as a member of the family like that's your mom and your brother what do you feel towards them? Do you hate them? I don't say I hate them because I feel like that will put too much weight on my life. I've accepted the choices that they made for theirs and I've just moved on independently with my children just to give myself some grace because oh wow I was trying to figure out why and there would never be a why. So I've just been really going to therapy,

keep my kids in therapy, just making sure we're vocal about our feelings because I don't want it to become rage and then we become unhappy people for the rest of our lives because of their choices. Sending you healing energy definitely, queen. Lord have mercy. Yeah, but yeah, so it was interesting

because I'm talking to my son off at school and I hear you guys' topic and I could see that it was triggering for him. Like, would you do the time of your mom? And he's looking at me like, mom, like what the hell? I'm like, I don't know, baby. Like, everyone has their own opinions. Like, that's fine.

But it was just interesting because people will do the time for their parents regardless of how much time and No matter how long of the crime Thank you for sharing your story and I'm so sorry. Yes in the healing in your whole family. Yes. Thank you. Thank you Hello, who's this hello, it's Rico Hollywood, Florida. What's up, brother? So if your if your mom got jammed up You gonna do the time for I mean it depends on the situation

Who got small motion if she's sitting down Got more motion I am mommy got no motion They say we got more motion out here. Mom ain't got no motion. You know what I'm saying? She got to go through that time. You know what I'm saying? We gonna make ice for her. We gonna take care of her.

We gonna make sure her commissary's full. You know, she got her soap and her shampoos and all that good stuff. You know, she gonna be all right. You know what I'm saying? I'm grown, I gotta raise my kids. You know what I'm saying? I know she'll do it.

She'll do it for me too. You know, she love her baby. All right. Damn it, man. We acting like both of these people aren't adults like these are adults making adult choices So you got to deal with the consequences of your choices? Yeah All right. Well, is there a moral but that was the moral? I don't really think it's a direct moral like I like the gentleman who just caught up He said it depends on who got the most motion

The gentleman who just called up, he said it depends on who got the most motion. Who got the most motion? You know what I'm saying? I like the motion conversation. I'm with that. I like that. Like I got more followers than you, mom, on Instagram. You gotta take your after-jail. Ain't nobody checking for you nowhere, you know what I mean?

Jesus. All right. Well, we got the latest with Lauren coming up, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.

We are at a breakfast club. Long Rose is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Our guy, the legendary. N-O-R-E. Welcome, Norie. Hello. Make some noise. Come on, make some noise.

Make some noise. I'll be here in a minute. I'll be here in a minute. What's up? Yeah, yeah, I'm over there. I'm over there. OK, OK. Are you saw yourself?

I was like, yeah, I was like down there. Right under the joke. They done replaced me. Nah, yeah, I'm over there. I'm over there. OK, OK. Are you talking to yourself? I was like, yeah, I was like, down there. Right under Joey's crack. They done replaced me. Nah, nah, you right there. Right there. Right there. That guy Easter Ray. That's right.

That's right. That's right. What's up? What's going on, man? I got to ask you a question before we start the interview, right? My daughters have dads. And this weekend, I had to drive three hours.

So when they sleeping, everybody sleeping in the back, that's when I listen to my music. So I turn on the Firm album, right? Because I'm going to go through stuff. The best record on the Firm. And then your record comes on, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Right? And I'm like, how the hell did Norrie get a record

on the Firm album by himself? Make it make sense. I was like, I never asked Norrie that. Well, a lot of people don't know, Nas was on War Report, the first album, and he was on a record called Music Makes the Thugs Calm Down. Music makes the th dogs calm down. For whatever reason, we couldn't clear it.

You know what I'm saying? No, we didn't have money back then. You know what I'm saying? It was on the mixtape though, right? Yeah. That didn't count. We needed it on the album. You know what I'm saying?

So Nas wanted to pay me back and I was in that little purgatory and hip hop at the time and I was like, yo, I want to put you on the Firm album. This was before they kind of even announced it. So he was like, yo, I'm going to Miami, I'm going to meet you in Miami. And whatever Instagram was back then, the n**** was in Miami and they ain't bring me. And I was like, oh. And then a month later, he called me and was like, yo, meet me in LA. And we went to LA and I recorded I'm Leaving. I'm Leaving was originally on Kepona Noriega's War Report

album, and Trag shut it down. Trag was like, that's whack. That was a single. Trag thought it was I'm Leaving was whack? That was a single. I knew it was whack. That's my man. That's my man. Butash thought it was, I'm Leaving was whack? That was a single. I'm Leaving was whack. That's my man, that's my man. But he thought it was whack and so we never used it and when I got to the studio, I believe

Dr. Dre was the engineer and he was like, you got something? And that's why to this day I always show nature love is because that was nature's session. That wasn't my session when I recorded I'm Leaving. So I went in and Dr. Dre was like, I that to Dr. Dre recently and um he was like you got something cuz he called me N***a Raghra. I ain't gonna correct him. I ain't gonna correct him cuz it's Dr. Dre. I'm coming up from left-wrack city I'm in LA so I'm like yo I didn't correct him so that's why if you notice I started the verse off nori know this nori Norrie Know That, you're gonna remember my name Dre. And he laughed at that recently, we interviewed him in Vegas.

But yeah, that's how that happened. So like Nas and that record and Big Pun record really set off my solo career. You know I used to rhyme in Envy's basement, you know what I'm saying? But I still wasn't a solo artist, I was a component of Noriega, you know, even though I was going there solo But that's what set off my career. So and why wasn't it a single cuz that is it was Hey, man, come on You know what this crazy? Um, like me and I spoke about this recently that was one of the hottest street records there was like and I just I just I wasn't smart enough to like go out there and do my own video.

I wasn't, but I did, you know, I did take the accolades. The accolades that came with it, it changed my life. You know what I'm saying? Like being on a firm project that was Nas, Foxy, AZ, and I caught mega all nature, whichever one you wanna pick at the time. But that was the hottest group in the world. For me to have a record on that album,

it set off my whole career. I got one more question. Like I said I was riding. Have a lot of questions. I'm more up here for this. So then I turn it off and then I turn on your first album right? Now I'm rocking and band from TV comes on right? Yes. And I'm like the original version had Cormega on it? Nah. It never had Cormega. So why was Cormega not on it and Neecho on it because at the first

Cormega's was with... Well me and Mega's always been cool Um, and me and Mega are still cool to this day, but what happened was like I told you um I Invaded nature's session because this is back then you know I know you guys probably do the coupon deals now like with the flights but back in the days I flew out on on a Tuesday. I had to be there on a Friday, but with the flights. But back in the days, I flew out on a Tuesday. I had to be there on a Friday, but- Tuesday was cheaper.

Tuesday was cheaper. I remember. I remember. I flew out that Tuesday and I had recorded that Wednesday, but that was Nature's session. So I wanted to repay him back. So I told him to come to Electric Lady and Nature took about 10 hours picking beats.

He was like very, very, very, very particular. And he was actually getting on my nerves. Sorry, and he was he was actually getting to my nerves sorry nature but he actually get my nerves and then Swiss changed the beat to one beat and nature just he wrote the whole rhyme right then and there and I felt like that's my payback and then Pun came and you know you know bad Joe says he's a glizzy king. Pause. Pun was a glizzy I don't even know. We're past the king.

You gotta say hot dog. We're saying hot dog. No, no, no. We're gonna say glizzy, man. This generation don't get it. This generation don't get it. Hot dog. So he went to Grace Papaya, because I don't know if you ever remember Electric Lady.

It was the studio, Jimmy Hendrix Studio, and he got a cat in there. So Pun saw my car. I was the only one with the GS, or you know, 430, you know, brand new. You know, I had two of them, you know what I'm saying? Come on, Envy knows that. You know queens get the money for real. And so yeah, Pun see my car out,

and then he was like, yo, you had the electric lady, and he went in, and he just laid the verse. I never asked Pun to get on the record. I actually told the engineer to erase it in front of Pun's face. I was like, because that was my friend, and he just jumped on the record. I actually told the engineer to erase it in front of Pun's face. I was like, cause that was my friend and he just jumped on my record and I was just like, like you're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to ask permission and, and then, then Cam called me and Cam happened to be in the city and Cam came. So that all, all band from TV happened in real life. This is not like they just happen to call

This is not sending the record You know if you could pay attention to how people make music now they send the record so you don't feel I won't get to Smell your Izzy Miyake. I don't get to see what watch you got on I don't get to feel the feeling that you was in when I'm making my euphoria to Collab with that. That's why records were better in the 90s We had to be in the studio with Busta Rhymes. You had to be in the studio with Fat Joe. You had to be in the studio with Jadakiss.

So that's how band from TV happened. It happened in real time. Only people that we didn't get that day was The Locks. And I remember my first time meeting Styles P and Jadakiss, I hated Styles P. He took my weed and didn't share it with me. What's the deal? He asked me for weed. I was like, yeah. But it was natural back then, puff, puff, ass.

I remember this so well. This mother- By the way, I'll give Styles P the keys to my house right now so just so you know. But that's how he was back in the days. He was just very aggressive. Indurant and negative. That was his words.

Yes, veganness saved his life. I can see the difference. I can see the person. I can see the person. But that session was legendary too, like, you know what I mean? Me and them. You know, the accident. It was never supposed to be a posse cut?

I didn't know what it was supposed to be, to tell you the truth. It was really meant to show nature love, you know what I'm saying? Because nature had just did that for me, and I wanted to do that. And at the time, I know this sounds funny right now, but no one knew who the guy who

made the beat he was called Dee's nephew. You know who he is now? Swizz Beatz of course. Swizz Beatz. I was the first one to work with Swizz Beatz outside of Rough Riders. This is facts. You know what I mean? You can look at when I spoke to LL the other day.

LL said to me that I brung him Pharrell and he just couldn't get it. Like I brung, I had the foresight to see s***. Like when I did podcasts, people were like, yo, this guy must be broke. Now everybody got a podcast. Now hold on now because Memphis Bleak said he was the first person on a DMX in Jada. Bleak gotta relax. Bleak gotta relax. I heard him say that on the new episode this week.X and Jay to work with Swizz. Bliq gotta relax.

I heard him say that on the new episode this week. That's on the Black Effect Drink Championship. This is so Black Effect. Bliq can say whatever he wants. But I heard him say that he was the first person to work with Swizz outside of DMX and Jay-Z. No, I mean, God bless Bliq, but mine is just facts. That's my brother.

That's my brother. But I mean, this is documented. The band from TV is documented as the first hit outside of Rough Riders. I'm now, he might've, he might've did work with him, but I'm not sure if it was a certified hit, you know what I'm saying? BanffinTV is a certified hit.

Like I know people who ice grill me in a club when BanffinTV is on, they don't even know it's me. It was the Mim Bleakiz record. Mim Bleakiz. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same time though. That's the same time, I'll give it to Bleak. And bigger than Bleak, we know.

You was on that album too? What you looking for? I got that plaque. I got a lot of plaques. I got a lot of plaques, yes. Bleak, we got Bleak. We got Drink Champs Network through. Black Effect, I Heart. Dope thing. We got Angela Simmons. Also, we just wrapping hers up. We got Run Champs, something I'm very passionate about.

Everybody that's here, they might look like hoodlums, they're not, you know what I mean? These are people that I run with, we are passionate. They wake up in the morning with me 4.30 in the morning. You know, I seen DJ Khaled and like, and you know, I see how happy he was playing golf. And Khaled came up to me and said, yo, you are inspiration to me. And I was just like, how the f. And Kyler came up to me and said, yo, you're an inspiration to me.

And I was just like, how the fuck can I be an inspiration to you? That's why y'all didn't get me live. That's why I understand. That's the reason why. Yeah, I understand. So, and I realized, you know, I wanted, I needed a hobby, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like I've actually, and this is my hobby now. Like, so I go places, I've been to Hawaii to run. I've been to Puerto Rico to run, I've gone all over the place and now I'm officially joining the NYC Marathon. Oh! Marathon, yes, yes, so. That's what, 26.2?

26.2, miles. I don't like the 5Ks, the 6Ks, the 10Ks. We are not in Düsseldorf. We are in America, we're gonna change this to miles. Okay. Okay, so we're 26.2 miles, Yes. Do I'm I scared to death? Yes We're still kicking it with Nore. Lauren. How do you I always wonder this when I watch your episodes How do you drink the full episode all these episodes back-to-back and then you do things like you running and all that too

You still drink of course I do. Yeah, I'm drinking St. Regis water right now. But um, you said, the question is how do I do it? Yeah. I believe it's all mental. I believe like all this. And right now, like I'm more conscious. Like, you know, my, a person that I look up to is RZA and RZA, you know, he drinks sake, right? He drinks a certain type of sake that gets you up. So that's where I switched to. I switched to sake.

It gives you no hangover. I wake up in the morning and I can go out because right now it's like, you know, I've lived this life where, you know, it's a different type of lifestyle. I fell in love with this. I fell in love with something that don't pay me. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, everything in life is about money and then when you find that one thing, so the New York City Marathon is probably my biggest goal that I'm ever like, and nothing can make me better but me. You know what's crazy, I can never remember a time you don't be running. That's your thing. For a long time.

I know Norrie up in the morning and he jogging. You used to post the videos on your Instagram. I'm listening to y'all. He texted all the time. I thought you was at the puff case. I ain't going to lie. I'm supposed to be on my way. What did I tell y'all?

I said I can help'all, you know what I'm saying? He texted me, I told him I'm on it. I thought you was at the puff case, like I ain't gonna lie. I'm supposed to be on my way. What did I tell y'all? I said I get my information from you. Everything I know about the puff case, I get it from you. Everything I know about a lot of the hip hop stories, I get it from you guys. Okay, got that, got that.

I see why y'all religiously trying to know all these things. You back rapping? Norrie sent me a record the other day, right? Yes, I did. I didn't listen to it yet, because I was like, and then what's the first thing he said on my senior record? I said, you back rapping? You know rapping? Norrie sent me a record the other day. I didn't listen to it yet. And it was the first thing he said on my senior record. I said, you back rapping? You know what? I'm rapping on my time. You know what I'm saying?

One of the worst feelings I ever got, I ever did was getting a whole bunch of money from Melvin Flint, the Hustler album. And then having to make it after, you know, Pun passed away, my father passed away, my mom wasn't there, but I got all this money right so I had to like deliver so I always regretted that so there's people who love the Melvin Flick album that people like every day I'm going through the airport and somebody's like why would you say that about Melvin Flick and you know whatever I want now I want to make music on my time like I got to see Meek the other day not in person but on the internet and he was like I finally own

a hundred percent of my catalog and a lot of people don't understand like he was crying out like he was he was he was venting and I now own a hundred percent of everything I do you know I'm I'm saying? But at certain points, like, so I wanna, I know this is gonna sound crazy, especially you had Dame Dash up here speaking the opposite, but sometimes I wanna work for somebody. Being a boss is hard, bro. But ain't nothing wrong with that.

That's what we were saying. You could have multiple jobs and multiple things. Ain't nothing wrong with being an order court employee. I love working multiple jobs and multiple things. Ain't nothing wrong for being a quarter court employee. I love working for Love and Hip Hop. I just didn't give them the throwing the candle and you know throwing drinks in the face. I ain't giving no drama so they ain't rehire me but I love that. If I don't show up for work then sometimes work don't happen. You know what I'm saying? I don't like being the pitcher and the catcher. So you're going to do an album or is it just release singles when you want? I'm saying I don't like being the the the the picture and the catcher. So you gonna do an album or is it just release singles when you want? I'm gonna pay

attention to the algorithms okay you understand I'm saying like right now we like right now I can I get artists could come to drink champs right let's suppose little Wayne came to drink champs I could actually see his algorithms and I could tell him where he could go on tour. I could be like, stop going to Milwaukee, bro. You got two fans in Milwaukee. That's right. Why are you even there? Go to Seattle.

Go to Utah. Go to Phoenix. I can look at the algorithms. I can see exactly, this is the time where we should take advantage of having this information. You know what I'm saying? Now we know. Remember back in the days you used to go on tour? I'm sorry to sound like the old guy. know, remember back in the days you used to go on tour?

I'm sorry to sound like the old guy. But you know back in the days you used to go on tour? You used to go to Delaware when your fans are in Philly. Right. Big up to Delaware, you know what I'm saying? Oh, thank you. Big up to Delaware, but- Y'all actually used to go to Delaware?

Yes. Delaware is this ****? Yeah, it is. But that was my preference. Yeah, they love you there. Yeah, that was my preference, you know what they love you there. That was my preference. But sometimes during the algorithms, you say, OK, you know what?

At the Delaware, you got to go to Baltimore, Skip, Virginia, or you know what I mean? But right now, you can actually see the algorithm. And I think this is the cheat code. I think it's the cheat code for everybody, because I did it for artists recently. And I was just like, yo, I don't think you should go here, here, here, like yo I don't

I don't even know what the... Me and Pharrell have nothing in common but music. And that says how dope music is though. Just think about it like you... If I think of all Pharrell rap friends though, to me they don't have nothing in common. Like what do you have in common with the clips outside of being from Virginia? No, they got in common. They dress... They wear bell bottoms together. You know what I'm saying? Like... Yeah, they... You know what I'm saying? Like... Bell bottoms together you know I'm saying like yeah they come out of me and Pharrell have a beautiful like when we get together we talk straight music and I love that at first I thought it was awkward but the elder I get I was like yo you know what that is that is that is dope you

know I'm saying like that's dope and like I don't get none of this Louis Vuitton for free man like you know I'm saying like I'ma try to work my angle. I wanna meet Bernard Aldo, you know what I'm saying? I wanna do that, but I'ma go out there and I'm with him in Paris. He got a whole different sound, and when he makes a different sound, I usually go out there,

and I'm a part of that new wave of sound. So you're gonna record and then get some more music. Yeah, I am. I like Paris anyway. I like Long Shade, Shamsay,haven, Shamsay, Laze. I don't know what that is. What is that? It's like the Manhattan. It's just the Manhattan. It's a fancy way of saying Manhattan over Paris.

We're still kicking it with N-O-R-E, Charlamagne. Let's do a Q&A like you do on DreamTree. Let's go. I'm in. Quick time, right? Now to Jim Jones. Let me tell you something, and I'm going to say this accurately. I see where Jim Jones is coming from. Like I can see him, because if you're looking at the algorithms now, I see where Jim Jones is coming from like I can see him because if you looking at the algorithms now I

can see where he's coming from but you can't take the legendary status that what Illmatic has done just Illmatic. Illmatic itself has birthed Marv Deep has birthed Capone and Noriega has birthed so many other people like just that album and you can't and that time was the tougher time for you to be noticed so that's the reason why but I understand where Jim is coming from I understand his stance. What part do you understand? That the kids know him now. I looked it up like I did I looked it up to see like who gets searched more in 2025 it's still still nice. I'll give you the

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but then I see my son's not moving. No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Whoa, hold on, I was just looking at this the other day. And it's still Nas by Longshot.

It's hard to beat Nas. Okay, screaming wise Nas has about 9.1 million monthly Spotify listeners while Jim Jones clocks in around 875,000. And I f**k with Jim Music. But that's dope for Jim. This is the Google searches. This is the Google based searches. Nas gets between 200 and 300,000 searches a month globally.

Jim Jones gets 40 to 70 thousand searches globally. I'm gonna be honest with you. All right, we all know that Nas wins, but listen, the fact that we're even having this conversation, that's a win for Jim Jones. I mean, that's what I was saying. Jim knows what he's doing. Let me just tell you something.

I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan, right? I'll tell you about, I think he's better than Muhammad Ali, right? This is me, right? I get argued, people who, but whenever Floyd fights somebody that night, they're on the same level as Floyd. So that's the reason why I hate when Floyd takes you to these exhibition fights. Because I'm sitting there as a fan, I don't want Jake Paul to hit touch my favorite fighter.

Like I don't want him to have a lucky shot. But you know at Floyd Mayweather, how do you turn down 30-40 million for exhibition three rounds? I don't know how to turn down 30, 40 million for exhibition three rounds? I don't know how to turn down 30, 40 million, but I know how to turn. My point of trying to say is, by us even comparing it, that's a win for Jim Jones. I seen Jim Jones in the beginning. I got footage of Jim Jones in Cameron. I was filming pre to Drink Champs.

I have a documentary called What What. I still have all the footage. And Jim Jones out he is on the internet you could Google this it's called what what trailer and Jim Jones is out in the cam and you're sitting there and Jim Jones like I don't I don't even spend money on weed you know me I bought five nickels with a $20 and you look at that person to the person that he is now this man won man. And I'm talking about you got to take him serious.

Like he was a hype man, a hype man, a person that was back in to where he is now. I think that's an accomplishment. I think that's what we should be celebrating. I hate in our culture that we have to compare. Like me personally, I don't do that on Quick Time with Slime no more, but I was forced to take out Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, because people, I'm talking about the fans were complaining. Not their camps, their camps were too,

but the fans were like, yo, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. You could like both of them. Yeah, and to tell you the truth, I like both of them. Like I am a Kendrick Lamar fan. But even if you like both of them, you can have a preference. Yeah, but right now, you feel like if you play Kendrick Lamar, you gotta throw away your Drake CD.

That's messed up. I've never been a Drake fan like that. No, y'all got a funny relationship. We know that. We know that. But you should be able to listen to both, right? Like when I'm in the club, I listen to Drake. But if I'm in the car, I can listen to Kendrick.

That doesn't mean I like one more the other. I listen to Drake in the car, and I like Kendrick in the club, but yeah. But you can listen to whatever you want. But you can still like both of them. Yeah, I like both of them. Like, I don't, like you got preferences. Purposes in which, like if I give you two people,

there's somebody you probably like more. Yes, of course, of course. But I do like both, like you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, I like, I like pistachio more than I like more. Yes, of course. Of course. But I do like both. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, I like pistachio more than I like vanilla. Exactly. But guess what? If you give me another ice cream and nobody looking, I'm gonna eat that.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna get plain. But let me ask you another quick slide. Let's go. Did he guilty or not guilty? God damn. You know what? I'm gonna leave that in the air.

You know what I mean? I could tell you this. I gotta tell you from my experience, right? You know, you know me and you know each other 20-27 years. There's people who could say, man, I don't f*** with Envy, right? I can't say that to them. You know what I'm saying? Me and Envy have a separate relationship. What I could say is when I've ever been around and I've been around quite some time, you know, I got my- I've married, been married 16 years. So maybe I was never really around that but I've been around quite some time. You know, I got my, I've married, been married 16 years, so maybe I was never really around that,

but I've never saw it. You know, I've never saw this monster that did this to Grodd. When I hear the testimony, because I got ears and I got Q-tips, so I hear it, some of this be like, whoa, and then some of it I'm like, nah, but I don't know. I'm definitely- But you've seen the seeing the freaky first thing I've never seen you every day every day

Yes. Yes. All right. All right. You all ready for this? Yes. I've been waiting to say this, Corey. What? OK.

Let's party party. Let's go. All right. I'm back for it. This is a witness testimony. OK. You want me to want us to play it and refresh your memory? Why won't you party with me for your birthday, man?

We've partied for my birthday before. You can't even know my party. No, but me and you ain't never really party. You know what I'm saying? I see it every time it goes viral. And they uptact. Yes, I look at it too. And I watch the whole thing too.

So all right, here's what happened. Fab and Jada, Fab's first freestyle you ever heard Fab is with me. Yep, yep. So I basically put Fab on, like in a good way. I'm playing around, I always say that to him. It's a joke, but it's not actually. Like if I could've, I was the hottest dude

in New York at that time. Clue asked me, can I have my dude Sport come up? And I was like, Sport? He was like come up? And I was like, Sport? He was like, Sport? And I was like, that's a dope name, Sport? His name was Fabulous Sport, am I lying? So we did it. So what I'm saying is me and Fab have a great relationship.

Me and Jada has a great relationship. Drink Chaps, we're hot at the time. We got a budget to fly around. We're using the Revolt budget, big up to Revolt. Everybody there, thank y'all for holding us down. So they're in LA we fly to LA EFN misses his flight off. I forget what happens boom Jada kissing them are on a promo run. I Like the creative person that I thought I was being I messed up

Well, I try I thought I was being creative. I hit puff and I was like, yo, they're doing a whole press run. That was for the Fab and Kiss Out. They're doing a whole press run. What could make ours different? You come to the show. So he's like, all right, cool, it's Groovy Lou birthday. We're gonna go celebrate with y'all. Now that part, you forget,

that's why the candles was there. It was Groovy Lou birthday. Who is Arastafarian? The furthest thing from anything flagrant. Fab, Jada Kiss and Diddy arrived at the same time remember Diddy's a surprise so my friend Mr. Lee who's who is Dominican what's his slang? Dari, yo Dari, yo Dari that's how he talking Dominicans because they didn't they don't want to say poppy. Poppy is a Puerto Rican thing. You understand what I'm saying?

So he sees Diddy and he says, yo Daughty, you got to put you over here Daughty because we got such a, we got, and then we don't want them to see it. So Diddy got that in his head now. Daughty. Now he just keying Daughty, Daughty. He think that's what we saying. No, it's not what we're saying. It's just what Mr. Lee is saying.

That's it. That's it. So we walk over and he goes, No, it's not what we're saying. It's just what mr. Lee is saying. That's it. Okay, that's it. So So we walk over and he goes yo, what's up daddy? Immediately. Yes, it does. I cool but here's what y'all don't know when he's saying to fabulous Yo, why don't you party with me no more? Look at us in front of fabulous. That's not sir. Rock Fabulous had a whole Coco Loso with what did he so when I'm inviting Diddy Took co-host he has a whole nother thing. He's coming at fab. Why are you not drinking so rock no more? That's what he's saying. Why we don't party no more and look he's pointing at it he's like and fab if you look fab is almost trying to

Throw the vodka away because he's like and you know he had a deal so that's really what that was about like that's what and the daddy part came for mr. Lee and you know hold on Norrie there was more to that That's what I'm talking about. No Dominicans will say it in the scrambling. In that part? I can't, I can't, I can't. I don't know. I don't know about it. I don't know. I was thrown off too. I was thrown off too.

And you know what's the crazy thing about it? You know I was sitting on the editing floor. And you was like, keep all that in. I was like, f**k it. It's classic. I was like, f**k it. You know what I really wish I would have edited was the Kanye. Now, you know, we didn't edit nothing until then until then but Kanye's was very weird

like because I had never got third what is it second grade secondhand secondhand hate. I got secondhand hate or so um yeah but that's that's that's that's the story. We're still kicking it with N-O-R-E, Charlamagne. The Diddy thing is interesting. I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but that interview was classic before that. Yeah, it's classic. Before any of that **** was going. I played it for him when he was hitting.

I saw that. I saw that. I saw that. I mean, you know, that's been a dope thing about Drink Champs is like I get to To make mistakes in front the fans live like in real time and they ride with me like, you know I mean don't get it twisted. I love the hate though, too I love balance because I've lived my whole career where you know, um, you know People have my back and you know just to see like it's a balance to this you know, people have my back and you know, just to see like, it's a balance to this.

You know what I mean? Like I'm with it because, but that's why I enjoy doing what we're doing with Run Champs. It's like, it's all positivity. Like this is the only time I can post something. Right. But somebody will always say something,

you running slow. The Kanye was interesting too though, because it's like, you're not responsible for what comes out of Kanye's mouth. Correct. You're a platform. You're a host. Yeah, but I felt responsible.

You know why? When I found out that George Floyd people didn't like it, I felt responsible because and by the way, God bless me, I've never said this before, but there's parts that we edited it. Like there is actually parts that we did edit. Like he compared, I'll say it, he compared George Floyd to Martin Luther King. And he was like, what's the difference between George Floyd and Martin Luther King?

And we were all like, we've been at that time, so we thrown off, and we were like, what? And he was like, Martin Luther King and we were all like, we've been at that time so we thrown off. We were like, what? And he was like, Martin Luther King had. And we were like, oh, we knew that had to be edited right there. Like we were like, oh no. And so we were paying attention to the parts that, we weren't paying attention to everything.

Like, you know what I mean? So, and he had got me, he had called me. I don't want to like like, blame it all on him because that's, you know, it was a collective. I just didn't know what, I didn't know how to edit at that time. Have you guys spoke since? Since then, we spoke like five, six times.

Then it disappeared and so did he. I have not spoken to him. So I'm gonna do a documentary of me, my two years with Kanye. Cause I had two years, I just, like I thought he was listening have not spoken to him. So, I'm going to do a documentary of me, my two years with Kanye. Because I had two years, I just... Like, I thought he was listening to me at one point. He's asking me marital advice and I felt obligated.

I was like, I was going downstairs. I was walking away from my wife because I didn't even want my husband to know that I was giving wife advice and marital advice. And then he would listen to me and then he'd just tweet away right after. And I'm like... He's shitting on you too a little bit. No, he's shitting on me. I never took it like that. I think after you apologized he was like...

No, he said no, he's a good guy. He said no, he's a good guy. That I didn't... Because I... To tell you the truth, I understood media but I only understood the good side of media at that time.

Like, when I come to the breakfast club and I go to Canada, people would be like, yo, breakfast club. Like, it's positive. you know what I'm saying? So this is my turn of saying, you know what, it ain't all guts and glory. Like sometimes you gotta go outside and take the gum under the table

and then put the gum under the table in your mouth. And maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right.

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Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn't right. Maybe that wasn there's two features on there. I guess we'll figure it out. And make sure you keep subscribing to Drink Champs. Yes. Make sure you support the Drink Champs Network. That's right. The Myth Bleak Show. Yes. Angela Simmons Show coming soon. Yes, yes, yes. You know? And Run Champs. Run Champs. Well, Healthy High is called Healthy High. Healthy High. Yeah. All right. Well, let's the Breakfast Club is Norrie! Let's go. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputy say he rigged the door to his home

in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for talking a flamingo. The breakfast club bitchy. Don Quijote of the day. With Charlamagne the guy. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this. Uh, well Duvala Snobby is Florida. Okay, Don Quijote of the day goes to a Florida woman named Victoria Moussive. Okay, she is 33 years old and she hails from one of my favorite places in the world Orlando, Florida.

Salute to everybody who listens to us on 104.5 The Beat in Orlando. Drop on the clues bombs for 104.5 The Beat. Orlando what's happening? What does your uncle Shala always say about the great state of Florida? Say it with me, the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. See, Victoria was stopped in Fort Lauderdale

at the intersection of Livington Street and Hewley Avenue because she failed to yield the right of way to another vehicle, so she got pulled over. And when the officer called dispatch to check on her identity, they were told there was a warrant out in Orange County for a DUI so officers did what they they do they took her out of the vehicle a red Ford Escape okay this car was typecasted for what happens next they took her out of her red Ford Escape and brought her back to the patrol car advised her of the warrant and that she

will be put under arrest that's when Victoria decided to make like her Ford an escape. She started to resist, ran back to her Ford escape, jumped in and placed it in drive. But there was a problem with that. See her six-year-old daughter was in the back seat but one of the police officers had also gotten into the back seat of the Ford escape with the daughter as well. I mean they were taking her mother to jail so somebody had to be with the six-year-old but listen to what I just said. Victoria found out she had a warrant for her arrest, for DUI, and clearly she must have still been drunk

because there was a police officer in the backseat with her six-year-old. What do you think Victoria did next? Comply to the commands to get out of the SUV, realize there was a police officer in her backseat, and just surrender? No, this is Florida. She drove away. With the cop in the back?

With the police officer in the backseat. Where we going? Look, moms are busy nowadays. Okay, sometimes you got to bring a cop along for carpool duty. Did he have a seatbelt on? I have no idea. You know, she wanted more community policing. This is her way of getting it. All right. Where does she think she was going with a police officer in our backseat in? Most places on the planet a police officer in the backseat would deter you from trying to make a getaway but not in Florida Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope in Florida. You combine traffic stops kidnapping and a family road trip. Okay, drop one of clues bombs for multitasking

All right Not to mention where would you be going when the officer in the back seat can just tell his fellow officers exactly where you're going? Okay? This is literally the equivalent of someone sharing their Uber ride status with you. In fact, this could be a new Uber service

called Uber Arrest. Why don't we have cops Florida edition? There gotta be a cops Florida edition, right? I'm sure. There has to be a cops just dedicated to Florida. This has to exist already right? All you got to do is attach a GoPro to every cop car in Florida and just sit back and be entertained. Please give Victoria Moussif the sweet sounds of the day you are the donkey of the day you are the donkey of the day you are the donkey of the day you are the donkey

I'm gonna say, how did the ride end? She ain't gone no damn well. She pulled over? Yes, eventually, and she is in jail for looting police. I thought it was more to the story. I wanted to be like, oh. She might have been like boo, and he, ah! You know, I wanted to hear the story.

She knew the cop was there the whole time. Yeah, but since she already pulled off and the cop was already there, baby girl could have just, like, I don't know. What, she going straight to jail? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, followed her down the street. She finally stopped at an intersection and she was placed in custody. That's all. And now she faces the charge of fleeing and eluding police.

No gang? I mean, we could if you want to. I wanna play a game. If you really feel like you need to, but sure, let's play a game of Guess What Race It Is! All right, a Florida woman driving an Orlando Monday. But uh sure let's play a game of guess what race it is All right a Florida woman driving an Orlando Monday flat of traffic stopping arrest while she had the police officer and her six-year-old Daughter in the back car guess what right she is No white you don't want to play

I white. You don't want to want to play. I'm just curious. You don't want to play. Now you don't know? I don't know. That's why I'm asking. Why do you think she white? I don't know.

I mean. What the carcassity of having an officer in the backseat and still feeling like you can drive off? The DUI feeling and the fact that the. The DUI? What do you mean? All races get DUI. What?

But not only that, but the fact that you had a police officer in the back and he didn't beat your head in as you were driving off kind of makes me feel like you were I would beat She's driving then she could wreck and kill us all you idiot boy you stupid The baby girl in the back seats or the baby in the back seat say anything I was the baby Well, hold on Lauren a Florida woman driving in Orlando Monday fled a traffic stop in arrest police say by hopping back in her SUV and driving off while a police officer was in the back with her daughter. Guess what race she is Lauren LaRosa? I think she's heroin white but no the baby in the backseat didn't say nothing right?

I didn't say anything. You gotta stop the car, the police gotta stop the car somehow someway. I'm not gonna beat the woman in the back of the head. I got a six year old daughter in the back. But you don't wanna get on the highway and take off and start going crazy you gotta get her to stop the car. Put the car I'm not gonna beat the woman in the back of the head. I got a six-year-old daughter in the back of me. But you don't wanna get on the highway and take off and start going crazy. You gotta get her to stop the car,

put the car on the road to turn the killings. Your six-year-old would have, six, seven, whatever, would have been like, dad, somebody in the car, right? My niece would have been like, someone else is in the car, mom, cause why would she pull off in the car? Well, at six years old, she understands police officers.

But what's the race? Well, both of you racists bigots are wrong, okay? No. She is not white. She is Negro She crazy I would have drove right to my mama house you see but the cop in the back Yes, come get my baby. I'm gonna jail Well orange is the new black This is I want to guess that

Orange is the new black, y'all. Okay? This is her. I wanna guess that one. Right? She got braids? What is it, the grades? She got cornrows look like. She had them cornrows for a little too long.

That's what it looked like. Jesus. It's got the little afro that grown over it. You know how your hair look under that wig. First of all, this is not a wig, baby. This is all me. I know you don't know what it feels like to grow hair and like hairlines and stuff anymore,

but this is what it looks like, okay? No. Look at it. Look at it. This is natural and your wigs all look the same.'s all me it's all me that's not Felicia this is Eva Eva is the natural mature girl she is chic she is trim well you know either and Farron need a vengeance Jesus because both of them always just look like they're in need of some type of merit all right they just all look like they're going through some type of struggle that they need help you know what your hairline look like?

what? me neither exactly mind your business alright girls alright girls girls girls girls the funny thing is she's been trying to make it bounce all morning but it ain't really bouncing don't do me cause the bob is moving the bob is moving alright girls The Breakfast Club Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. She'll amane the guy We are the breakfast club Lauren La Rosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building our guy

We got comedian Tony Baker. Welcome. What's up, man? How you feeling good? I feel great First time you came before the bridge. I was traveling you was hiding from me. I wasn't I was gonna ask you the hard-hitting question I really didn't have I was traveling. You was hiding from me, man. I wasn't hiding. I was going to ask you the hard-hitting question. I really didn't have. How you feeling, brother? I'm good, man. Blessed to be out here. I love coming to New York.

I can never get enough time out here, though. It's always a quick in and out. I want to be out here for like a month. You said driving in New York makes you bolder. Yeah, man. How did you come to that country? Because I rented a car. I shouldn't have messed around. No, I flew in. I makes you bald. Yeah, man. How did you come to the airport? It was stressful, man. You drove here from Chicago? I rented a car.

I shouldn't have messed around. No, I flew in, I rented a car, and then I drove from JFK to Manhattan, and I was like, I knew nothing. Nobody drives from the airport. Even the people that live here, you take a car or? Yeah, it was a big mistake. I lost all my hair.

It was luxurious. I had a full head. Before you came in? Yeah. You know, but I. Before you came in. Yeah. You know, but I love when you do your 10 thoughts of the day, man, cause like, you put a fat Joe, don't let people talk. He don't let nobody talk, man.

I'll be watching him and Jada, man. Jada be saying five words an episode. But I watch every episode, his story defied. It's such a good, it's so good, right? I love it. I'm glad they did it, but the way Jada reacts to Joe, he's like, this shit's crazy, crazy. And so, but Joe don't let people talk, man.

He come in, man, he ruled all over Jim Jones as soon as the episode started. Yeah. Yeah, but. Except for when it came to the Nas conversation. Oh yeah, he got it. Except for when it came to the Nas conversation. He let him talk.

No. No, he did, on the Nas. Oh yeah, he did. And then he was like, but then Jim Jones put his foot in his mouth when he was like, put the billboards up. And then that's where he messed up. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know why

that's even a conversation. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I love Jim Jones a lot. I think Jim Jones has been putting out some of the best music from New York. Oh, for sure. Over the last several years, probably the best music from New York. Until last several years. Probably the best music from New York

until now I started dropping those King's diseases. All right, that's running right there. Now I'm just my favorite rapper of all time. And with that Hitboy run, that just solidified his spot for me. Cause that late in the game, making albums that hot, I don't know who else has done that. And making them for people our age.

Yeah, for sure. Don't get me wrong, Scarface and Jay-Z can still make great music, and Common. There's a lot of guys in that age that make great music. For sure, but they put out like, you know, one, like you know Common and Pete Rock did a phenomenal job in there, but they just be like, you know one. Nas of the Series.

Jay slowly got a lot, yeah, Nas of the Series, but Nas still gets busy. Yeah. Hands down. That six albums, they were all good. Listen, you ain't gonna win his first Grammy. Crazy. You ain't gonna get no debate out of me about that one.

He was overdue, so yeah, he my favorite. You said Ashanti has a great laugh. She do, she be laughing. And I'm a comedian, so I be looking for the laugh. Like, you know, I feed off that. Like, y'all just sitting there taking it, and I'm like, man, I remember I auditioned for SNL a few years back, and they were just sitting in the shadows gave me nothing.

I was up there giving a hundred thousand percent man they were just sitting in the shadows. It was just silhouettes. They was sitting there like he's sitting right now just with robes on just looking squinty-eyed. I was like yeah full commitment nothing. They know what auditions are like though they normally don't give you much in an audition. They gotta give me something, man. I'm on stage, just sitting there, not even lying. I can see if it was a drama, like if I'm doing a Viola Davis scene,

I done lost the kids, you know what I'm saying? So you was sweating like a ****. I was up there giving it all I had, and they was like, huh, I don't even know if I got that. And they was silhouetted. So how do you leave that? You be like, all right, they gonna... Hold on, they was silhouetted?

Yeah, I couldn't see. All I saw was bodies. And it was just like, it was like they was all on gang land confessing about the crimes. And you just couldn't see nothing. And I was like, all right. Damn. Thanks for having me, yo.

You ever got any cheeks, because you told a girl she had a great laugh? I don't think so. Yeah. I can't remember that being the reason, like, man, you got a great laugh. And then the panties dropped. No, I can't. that being the reason. Like, man, you got a great laugh, and then the panties drop. No, I can't.

No, because they always say if you're a comedian, if you can make them laugh, you can crack their ass. So I always wonder, I wonder if you making them laugh, and then you give them that compliment, does that do something for them? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know. Usually I give that compliment in the moment, like during the show. Like, man, you got a great laugh. That happened to me in Austin last weekend. She had a great laugh. But you could just be doing that because you want the crowd to keep laughing. Like, man, you got a great laugh. That happened to me in Austin last weekend. She had a great laugh. But you could just be doing that because you want the crowd to keep laughing.

No, she really had a good one though. Because it was like a residual holdover laugh. Because some audiences laugh real quick and then hush. And I hate those. How many people were in the audience that you heard just heard laugh? Like she was in the front row. Oh, okay.

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and just bring her to every show. You said that was the Austin show? It was Austin, yeah, I was in Austin last weekend. And you said you would have canceled the show if you knew they had a serial killer. Yeah, they had a serial show? It was Austin, yeah, I was in Austin last weekend. And you said you would have canceled the show if you knew they had a serial killer. Yeah, they had a serial killer. I didn't know that, I ain't see that nowhere. They got a serial killer allegedly out there.

It's a whole bunch of men, they've been finding men at this lake called Lady Bird Lake and just, you know, dead dudes. And they thinking like they be capturing them cause it's a lot of like partying around there and like drinking. And so they've been finding these bodies like Three weeks ago was 38 bodies found 38

Rumors right as 38 bodies found in and around Lady Bird Lake so far They be quiet on these serial killers. There was one in Long Island too. What? Yes. Recently? Yes There's not nobody that go to Long Island. What kind of dead though? Just dead like booty hole tampered with? They didn't say the cause is does it matter? Yes. I want to know what's going on like Anything missing like I'm saying like he just killing people and just putting the body there like nothing. There's no motive No, cuz usually they got an emmo like, you know, they would kill this way, but I don't Know souvenirs, you know mark of a serial killer Okay, so you really felt unsafe? No, I did. Okay. I went to the scene of the crime. Yeah

I mean Because the 38 Oh, I mean this is no nevermind. I'm not gonna say it's gonna sound sensitive. Never mind. It's not insensitive problem Yeah, that's what I meant. I was gonna say the 38 bodies is over three years. Girl, you know how long that is? A lot of bodies. That's a short period of time. I told y'all I didn't wanna say it, y'all made me say it. Oh gosh, you gotcha, yeah.

That's a lot though. But when you say serial killer, I'm thinking like how like a Jeffrey Dahmer where it's like everything's back to back to back to back to back. They gotta space it out now. You know how long it took for them to catch Jeffrey Dahmer? No, well the movie scene was like an hour.

Man. It took a while. I'm sorry, it took a while for him to get caught. Jeffrey Dahmer was killing people for at least several years. If the cops had him dead to rights early on, they pulled him over and everything. He had a body in the trunk. He had a body in the trunk, yeah.

If he was black, he would have got caught immediately. Oh, absolutely. You definitely check that. He would have got half a victim if he was black. Now you said he was. Yes, Jeffrey Dahmer was out for 13 years From 78 to 91 You were fine, but okay, but no he's a very on there's not funny cuz people died

You know what? You continue on. Tony's like, let me shut up in this one. Now you said Diddy might get off. I think he, well they, you know, they changed it. What, they dropped some of the charges, right? They dropped the charges, Lord? I know you the professional on this.

Hold on, one quick, real quick. Yes. Do you know Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 people in 13 years? So Austin got 38 I thought it was way quicker It is crazy Number is it's all they're trying to figure out the numbers still reports and rumors claim Same awesome police. They're still trying to figure out the numbers and at least Dom was eating the men claimed 30 bodies had recovered from the lake in three years. Don is saying Austin police,

they're still trying to figure out the numbers. And at least Dama was eating the men. Not at least, but at least. Like what is this guy doing? Whoever this person is. It could be a woman. Could be a woman. Yeah, could be a woman.

It could be a woman, because it's all men. She gotta be a diesel woman because she gotta carry the men to the lake, right? What's weird about the Austin thing is I can't find like causes of death. Like they've been finding them in the water, maybe drowning or whatever.

So it's like. I'm looking that up now. But the numbers keep changing. It's 19, then it's 38, then it's 38, then it's 19. But you know. But we don't even know how they dying. No. No. They didn't have it listed.

Damn. Yeah, the causes of death have been mainly attributed to accidental drownings. But the second thing that they're saying is potential suicide as well as drug overdose and natural causes. And this is just for two teens that were found. Tony, where'd you get the serial killer? Because they were in this by the go on the delayed killing themselves that many times.

No, articles are saying serial killer, but then the Austin police are saying they're denying the rumors of it being a serial killer but at the same time they're still investigating. Yeah. We're still kicking it with comedian Tony Baker. Now before I go to Biddy, you said you pay attention to a woman's hands, why? I just do, like I look at a woman's hands. Make sure they're not big? No, it's just I always look, you know, because a lot of women take care of their hands, like

Lauren has great hands. Oh, thank you. And the finger length and the moisturization and stuff like that. I pay attention to that. The nails, all that good stuff. Especially when they be taking selfies and they be holding the phone a certain way,

I always look at the hand. Y'all been looking at woman's hands? I'm married, David Marrick. Oh, f***. Marrick. Well, at your wife's hands, did y'all ever look at the hands? Yeah, all the time, absolutely.

Remember that Seinfeld episode where he was dating the girl with the man hands? What does that mean? Was she trans? Yeah, no, she had man hands. She was a woman in the episode, but her hands was like, you could tell there was a big man hand

when she would reach over to him and she wanted to wipe some food off his cheek and he was like, nah, I'm good. And then you just see a big robust hand come through. On your 10,000th day, you said, a wet handshake makes my soul weather. So what if it's a beautiful woman with nice hands but her hands are wet?

See what I'm saying? Yeah, the wet hands is just gross. I can't deal with it. Especially if we gonna be talking, we gonna be intimate. It's gonna be a wet hand all the time? She gonna be massaging me with a wet hand? What if it's wet cause she cuz you got her like that and she been putting her hands on there playing with that thing. Nah man. Why he did it like that? He could have just said it without a

DWING with that thing. He just said it. Visual representation. But nah a wet handshake is the worst though. Yeah. Like if I know you got a wet dab I'm gonna pound you up after that. I hate the dude with the one nail. That one nail dude. The one pinky nail, man. That one pinky nail that scratch you like. Cut that. I hate dappin' dudes with the long nails. Yeah. I be like, man, you a vampire? You a drug dealer, man. The one long pinky is for the coke. That's for the coke, man.

Yeah, that's for coke. I'm like, yo, if you ain't doin' that, then you better be a vampire if you scratchin' me up in the dapp. Damn. And women be lookin' at man's hands. It is disrespectful. I think about that all the time. You wash your hands.

If I know my hands even a little dapp, I tell her. I tell her, like, now my hand's damp and I give you an elbow or something. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's disrespectful. You think about that all the time. You wash your hands. Like if I know my hands even a little damp, I tell her. I tell her, like now my hands damp and I give you an elbow or something. Like it's disrespectful. You don't do that. Come around the corner with random wetness. Gross. Like you peed on yourself. Yeah, I get it.

Yeah, man. And the thing that you gotta look out for that you don't never realize is, you know, sometimes you might just be walking and tug your penis. What? And then like, you know, like, you know, if you're at the house or something, you tug your penis and somebody walk in,

you give them a pound. You don't do that like raw penis tuck like wrong like inside the time You walk around just tuck your penis just just randomly It's a long story, but when I was younger I have bought these pills called magna RX It may seem like we all do it, but that is a long story We met like outside the clothing adjustment. You was like... Yeah, when I was young I had bought these pills called Magna RX and they're supposed to be pills that make your penis bigger. Oh, snap.

And so one of the things that they told you when you buy the Magna RX is you read it, they told you do this little exercise where you tug on it when it's flaccid. And so that's just a habit I've had since I was young. I respect the fact that you admitted that you got the penis enlargement pills from the 70 level.

No, I ordered them off the back of Double XL. Wow. Did they work? Yeah. I don't know, actually. How old were you? I was my 20s. Last year.

Early 20s. These are the last four. You don't know if they work? I don't know, that's a good question. You don't measure? I've been seven inches, three, four for a long time. Eight when it's summertime. You don't measure envy? No. Why not? I've been married for a long time eight when it's eight when it's summertime. You don't measure

Stop leaning on marriage You ain't never measured no you say like you do often I measure every year every year Yeah, make sure ain't no fun and games happening. I measure annually. You've seen changes No, it's usually consistent. But you know when you get older annually. You've seen changes? No, it's usually consistent. But you know when you get older, you get older and naturally shrink. You shrink. Yeah. So you get shorter, I'm like, all right, let me see what's happening. Yeah. Yeah, I measure every year. I just don't know when that, when they, I know they say when you get older, I just don't know when. Happy birthday, by the way. Thank you, sir. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So I'm the only person that do a little,

little tug when it's flaccid huh? Raw tug is wild. Especially like where you be at? You be at home, you be at house, you be at Whole Foods. Whole Foods. The raw tug? It's crazy. Whole Foods raw tug is wild. Well speaking of Diddy, you said Diddy might get off right?

Everybody was speaking of no God damn Diddy. What the hell you talking about? You talking about Ass Rack, raw tugs. Why ain't nobody speaking of no God damn Diddy? In the thoughts of the day you said Diddy might get off, right? Everybody was speaking to no God damn Diddy. What the hell you talking about? You talking about ass crack, wrong terms. Why ain't nobody speaking to no God damn Diddy? In the thoughts of the day you said Diddy might get off. What's your thoughts on Diddy? Cause they were dropping some charges and I was like, oh, okay.

Not true, Tony. It's not true? Lauren? No, they backed away from theories. Basically the way that the jury was instructed to deliberate was like, don't worry too much about this because this is where we're stronger at. But no charges have actually been dropped.

Oh okay. So false headlines. Yes. Okay. But did you think he was coming home before that? I thought he was going in. Now you don't think he's going in. Once they said that they dropped in the sex trafficking.

There was like a few that they had listed. They said the arson and the kidnapping I think. Yeah the arson, kidnapping and the sex trafficking was I was like a few that they had listed. They said the arson and the kidnapping I think. Yeah, the arson, kidnapping and the sex trafficking was, I was like, oh, that sound like he might. Yeah, they didn't drop none at all. Well, then he going in. He going somewhere. Like I don't know how long he getting,

but he getting something. You put a pause at, damn, God. That's what they say. That whole sound crazy. It's like, did they say something? He going in. I don't know how long he going to pee, but he getting something.

You post this content Only fans because they're all been here tripping or the whole it's been pause episode But you put pause after then he might get off why? Get off did he might get off. Yeah, I knew what you meant. Yeah, I don't think that needed to pause I just put the pause in there man Just in case, just in case That whole case you just gotta pause everything I had to put a button on the 10 thoughts.

What did you think when you heard that he allegedly likes men semen on his nipples? He does? You ain't heard nothing else but them charge a job. You ain't heard that part? No. He likes men semen on his nipples? That's what one of the girls alleged.

No, not a girl. Cassie said that. He's not joking. He jokes a lot. He did not joke. This is true. This is real. This is what Cassie said that he's not joking he jokes like I don't think I do this is true This is real. This is what Kathy said. That's wild business, though That's wild. I know that I mean

We all into something I guess I ain't in another like that It's something you be you be tugging raw You know what I'm saying? You liable to do anything at this point. That would sound crazy in a court case, right? He was tugging raw in Whole Foods. In the self-serve part where you make your own plate, man. It's wild. When you walk in your local Whole Foods, they're going to look at you so different.

I don't go to Whole Foods. I go to Wegman's. Listen, who would you say you are? Whole Foods too expensive? It is expensive. What? Wegman's nice. Who would you say you are? Whole Foods too expensive? It is expensive. What? Wegmans is expensive too but Whole Foods is too expensive. I never been to Wegmans. Whole Foods is way more expensive than Wegmans. Whole Foods is disrespectful expensive. Especially when you build your own and you weigh it. They'd be like $37 for your rice and your little potato ball.

We're still kicking it with comedian Tony Baker. Charlamagne? Who would you say you are outside of comedy? Just a dad. Just regular. I'll be playing games. I'm a movie nerd for sure. A thousand percent.

Yeah, outside of comedy. I'm an actor too. I started out acting before the comedy and then I just started doing stand-up and I was like, oh, I got more control over my career with this. So, you know, just a naturally funny dude. I denied the funny growing up because my brothers never laughed at me, so I felt like I wasn't funny.

So then I would go to school and they'd be laughing, but they never registered. So I was just like, whatever. That's why being a comedian is so tough, because it's like, you need that validation. How you talked about when you did SNL and you didn't get no laughter from them, and then you said your brothers didn't laugh at you.

So how did you know you was funny? I found out, people were saying it, but it still just didn't register. It was just like girls would be like, you funny. Like when you young, I didn't want to be funny to the girls. This is before I knew funny was, you know. Make them laugh right in the ass. You're funny, not like, man, I'm trying to be cool. And like, you know what I'm saying? I be funny to the girls. This is before I knew funny was, you know. You were funny and I'm like, man, I'm trying to be cool.

And like, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to holla. But then, then when I was going through college and stuff and hosting shows and all that stuff, and this random girl pulled me to the side and was like, you're hilarious. I was like, who are you? And she was like, I saw you host that MC battle thing.

And so then that's when it registered. Cause she pulled me out of nowhere. I was at a Common concert with Electric Circus Tour. And she said that and then it just always stuck. You know what I'm saying? I might be funny for real. Even though people have been saying it for years, it just never registered.

And so, and then I used that once I moved to LA for acting and I was like, man, maybe I should try stand up as a way to get roles and stuff. And then I did stand up one time and just kept going ever since. Remember your word show? Always talk about your word show and your best show. Oh hell yeah.

What was your word show? I remember I bombed out here in the Bronx at Rob Stapleton's room. Of course, Rob Stapleton, who else? Capone, I'm sure was there, Talent. They weren't there that night, it was just Rob, it was Salsa Con Fuego, his show. Salsa Con Fuego, yeah.

I went in there, I wasn't planning on going up, I had shorts on. Me and my ex-girlfriend, we was just there, I just wanted to see the room, because I've known Rob for a long time, let me just go pee, pee with the Rob. So I'm just sitting there, he's like, yo, Tony, you wanna go up?

I was like, nah, you know what I'm saying? We just chilling, you know So I'm just sitting there, he's like, yo, Tony, you wanna go up? I was like, nah, you know what I'm saying? We just chilling, you know what I'm saying? And then he came back and I was like, oh, I really don't wanna go up. I had shorts on. What's wrong with shorts? What's wrong with shorts?

Basketball shorts? I just had on like some jean shorts. Those hard to tug in, but yeah. It was getting, you know what I'm saying? If you're not Gabriel Iglesias, put some pants on. And so I was just like, nah, you know. I didn't want to say no, but I was trying to say no. Then he came back a third time and he was like,

yo man, you know what I'm saying, five minutes sounds like. And then my girl was like, just do five minutes. And I was like, all right man, I'll do five minutes. Went up there, man, telling my jokes. I went up there with the good material. And they was just distracted. They was on their phone. I was just like, damn, I'm gonna be tanking. It was other comedians up there with the good material and they was just distracted they was on their phone I was like damn I'm up here tanking it was other comedians up there like man let's see what Tony Baker's all about. This is what made the L official

after I did that mediocre set before I get off stage Rob was like nah man come here Tom y'all don't understand man this dude's man. That was the nail in the coffin. I was a skeleton in his arms at that point. I was dead on the ride. Nah, man, y'all don't get it, man. This guy's funny. Zip me up. Zip up my bag and throw me in the corner truck. Man, that is funny as ****.

That was the nail in the coffin, man. What'd you tell your girl when you walked off? You said, I told her I shouldn't have went up there. I was like, man, I had the shorts on. Did you say it? And then, that's why we broke up. No, that's not why we broke up. That's not why we broke up. I got revenge in Brooklyn the next night,

but that was the latest bomb that sticks with me. I remember my first one though, was at the J-Spot in Inglewood. I went up there and it was a black room, kind of hoodish. I went up there, did my material, they was just like, huh, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And then I got off stage, comedian was like, it looked like he just got out of jail and

was like, I'm gonna do comedy. Crying, laughing, I was like, that's crazy. So I took that L. Then I went, I was like, yo, I'm gonna get revenge. Anytime I take an L, I want revenge. I want another show. So I went up there a second time, did worse than the first time. Double L, LL Cool J, L Ron Hubbard. And then this is how official the L was.

The dude was looking at me in the front row and he was just looking at me. Then he just turned to the side and looked at this girl like, what's up with tonight? And I heard him say it. And I was just like, God damn. Cause he just turned, he was like, yeah, then what's up with tonight?

What did you just say? Nothing, you took me to this wack ass comedy show, what's the best you can take me? I'd have been a skeleton. I'd have been a skeleton again, man. I had pants on. Yeah, you had pants on. Yeah, but I remember the A.L.'s, man.

But they're always funnier than the wins, though. Yeah, you know, you were one of the first to blend stand up and social media in a way, to me, that didn't feel forced. Yeah. But how did you avoid the trap of saying, you know what, they say I suck on stage, so I'm gonna go full time influence them.

Oh, nah, like stand up for me is everything. Like I just use social media just to get you to come to my shows. And so when I was doing the voiceovers heavy, my following exploded. The animal voiceover. Yeah, and so once I started doing that, you know, now the stand-up clips are in, but once I started doing the voice-overs, I was like, good, come see me live.

Did they ever want you to do that on stage? Like you, do the Animal Voice, Tony. This lady said that recently, my show's in Detroit. She was like, I thought you were going to do like some animal stuff. I was like, that don't translate on stage. She's just like, man, I just thought she was going, I thought you were gonna do like some animal stuff, I was like, that don't translate on stage. She's just like, man, I just thought she was gonna do something. And I think the white audience looks at me

like that a little bit, you know, cause they come expecting one thing, like the cats, and you know what I'm saying, black folks get it, but she was a white lady, and I was like, nah, hell no, I don't do, what I'm gonna do on stage, you know, I do talk about animals and stuff like that, but. Man, if I was at a show and I saw somebody bombing

and then they broke out in the animal voices, I would die laughing. I'd be like, cue up the video, and then just do that. Just like a random cat video, I'm just sitting there like, man, I would be dead inside. Skeleton again, just put the shorts on me. Cause I'm not gonna front, when somebody's doing really, really good, I'm silent.

Really? Cause I'm listening. I actually, that's why I love watching stand up on TV. Cause there's nobody around you to laugh over what the next joke might be. Sometimes comedians, y'all will tell jokes and then it'll be just like something small, you'll stand here breathin'.

But you'll miss it cuz everybody laughing right I like to listen so when somebody's really good I'm like like really intently listening and like a mic might chuckle but when somebody's bombing I'm dying oh you I don't know the words I don't know why man I'll be feeling bad I hate laughing at a bomb because I too could be a victim of the bomb Yeah, no comedians is above the bomb. Yeah, every comedian is bomb So I'm always scared the karma is gonna come back. So I just be like damn man But if a comedian is cocky and they bomb I love it. Oh

I'll be I'll be eating it up back there. I'll be let me a full course meal But like you thought she was just gonna go up there and rip I think the thing that makes me laugh is I like seeing people trying to dig their way out of that hole I'd be like, they'd be a full course meal. But like, you thought she was just gonna go up there and rip. I think the thing that makes me laugh is I like seeing people trying to dig their way out of that hole. My God, man. If you an ass-c***, you up there taking the air,

I'd be like, let's see. He's an ass-c***. He's an ass-c***. He loves that. He loves to see comedians do it. There's one show he always talks about The Garden. No, don't do that. I'm not gonna say the person today,

but he talks about this show all the time. You wanted to bring it up so bad. I'll tell you later. He's smart. That's my man, and he's over that. he talks about this show all the time. Who is it? You wanted to bring it up so bad. I'll tell you later. That's my man and he's over that. He done got a scrub from the internet. Wait, somebody bombed at the Garden? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Madison Square Garden they bombed? Yes, but it was so funny. I mean the best one ever. Dang, that's an epic bomb though. That's my guy though. I don't even want to bring that up. Who is it? I'll tell you later.

Tell us now man. He's super funny by the way. He is. Super funny. He just had a bad... Is he black? epic bomb though. That's my guy though, I don't even wanna bring that up. Who is it? I'll tell you later, I'll tell you later. Tell us now man. He's super funny by the way.

He is. Super funny. He just had a bad. Is he black? Yes. He been around for a long time? Just that one show, he just, yeah he been around, this was like 15 years ago. Man, stop trying to figure it out. What he have on at the end of the day.

What city he from? Tell me what city he from. How he doing that? And you come on, every eight years you come up here? Nine years? No, I was here, last time I was in New York was, was it Caroline? So I want to say 2022.

Maybe it was 21 or 22. I was like, it's Caroline's clothes. Yeah, they're clothes. Yeah, so I think that was the last time I came out here solo. Me and Kev are going on tour, me and Kev on stage going on tour in September, the Ball Brothers Tour starting September through November.

You can get tickets on Kevonstage.com right now and it's going to be on more links too but we start that in September. That's dope man, traveling the world, traveling the country, getting money with your friends. It's the best. It's the best. That's why I want to stop doing stand up. And we appreciate you for joining us Tony. Thanks for having me. And subscribe appreciate you for joining us, Tony.

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