The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Patti LaBelle, Stephanie Mills and Chaka Khan, Phylicia Rashad, And Mara Brock Akil Interview)

Episode Date: January 1, 2026

Best of 2025- Queens - Patti LaBelle, Stephanie Mills and Chaka Khan, Phylicia Rashad, And Mara Brock Akil Interview. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee ...omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hi, I'm Radi DeVlucia and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. But talking about trauma isn't always great for people. It's not always the best thing.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something can happen to me in the middle of the day. night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart
Starting point is 00:02:11 Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through menopause. Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? Listen to decoding women's health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:03:25 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. What's up, Jess and Larry? Shalameenigat. It's Thursday. Happy New Year! That's right. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And how long can you say Happy New Year to? Do you say it for another week or do we just say it one more day? How long do we say Happy New Year? I really shouldn't even be saying it now because we're on vacation. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, since they got us doing these type of things on our vacation, I don't know how happy I am about that. But Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:03:54 That's right. And today is all about the Queens, right? Like Patty LaBelle, Miss Patty LaBelle, Stephanie Mills. Shaka Khan, Felicia Rashad, and Mara Brocka Kidd. Do you know the goosebumps I get when you name every single one of them name? I mean, every single one of those women give me absolute goosebumps. If you've ever been around any of these women, you know that you're not, you know, around just regular individuals. You are around actual spiritual beings, just live in human existences.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And we are all blessed to have all of those people on our planet still. That is right. Well, let's get into those interviews. We're going to be talking to those queens in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. It's a new day This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's time to get up and get something Call up now 800 5855151 We want to hear from you on the breakfast club What's up my mom? How long? Who's this? Hello? This is Tanya Good morning y'all Peace Tanya
Starting point is 00:04:45 So I just want to say Whoever used the last little bit Of my coffee cream at last night at work I worked first at the hospital Whoever used my last bit of coffee cream at work, your mom's a hoe. Damn. What hospital you work at and where are you calling from? I'm calling from Florence, South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I work at MUSC, and someone has an audacity to use my sht. That's crazy that you even left a day. Was your name on it? No, I said a pissed in it. Damn. Why are you peeing your own coffee cream? People do this to her all the time because she's not dismayed. They just did this one time.
Starting point is 00:05:26 This happened before. Yeah, they're nasty people in it. I hate them. Yeah. But their mom's a hole. I'm on the way to get my daughter ready for school this morning. And I'm so hot about this. I understand.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You should breathe. Just take a breather. I know. And I don't know why you whole shaming people with mamas. Like, damn, mommas can't have a whole face? No, they can't. Not in my world. All right, John.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You have a good morning. It's crazy to think about that. John too. Love y'all. Thank y'all. too. It is a lot of mammas out there that are holes to somebody. That is crazy to think about, and grandmas and everything. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I think that everybody should have a whole face, okay? Yeah, I think everybody do at some point. That is a very hard thing for people to grasp, though. Like, your mama at some point gave some man fellatio a few times. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't want to think about that. It's not crazy to think about it.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I don't want to think about it. You're doing it to somebody, mama? I'm doing it to somebody, mama. You ever think about that? No. All right. Logan, slam your daddy one time just because, okay? Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Irritated Uber driver? Hey, irritated Uber driver. How are you? Bless and highly medicated. There you go. I know, that's right. What's up? Okay, I'm irritated.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I drive in the city of Detroit. And in my car, I got a picture of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama, as I should. I got a picture of Kamala Harris when I met her in Detroit. I had a Trump supporter in my car tell me yesterday, if he knew a ninja was picking him up, he would have canceled the right. I said, say it with your chest. I said, say it. I said, go there and say it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I dropped his ass off on the east side of Detroit. I said, I figured it out. Why did he think he could be the ninja? Did you have your mask on, your sword, and everything else? Shut up, man. Yeah, you're stupid. You know what, y'all funny, but these Trump supporters, y'all do not run this. Y'all, I'm tired of y'all talking about what Donald Trump has done for this country.
Starting point is 00:07:21 He's segregated us. He wants to try to put up in our place. And then I'm tired of him talking about construction workers that we make too much money. I told the Trump supporter, get out there and do the jobs that a construction worker does. Put some respect on our pay and leave our affordable wages alone. I agree with you. How many stars did he give you? He said, he gave me one star, reported me telling me that I have offensive pictures up in my car.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Uber called me yesterday and said, man, what's going to? going on. We got a complaint. I said, okay. And I said, I got a picture of my president, Barack Obama, and his wife. They said, maybe I should take it down. I said, maybe you should kiss my ass. Right. I wonder what the policy for that is, though. That's weird. They tell us to be, they tell us to be neutral and stuff like that. Yeah. I said, there's no neutral about it when you get in my car and talking
Starting point is 00:08:16 ignorant. Yeah, you call me out of my name. And then you're going to call me out my name. Thank you, Jess. You heard that. You're going to call me out my name. Put some respect on my melanin, first of all. Well, I'm mad at you that you didn't call him a crackerback. But also, if you look at it. I called him an ignorant, baloney-smelling damn trussing. Nah, that didn't hit.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Oh, I called your head up. Oh, I called him everything else, too. But I can't say it on the radio. But if you want me to, I will. But I'm going to be Trump supporters. Y'all need to stay in your lane. You should have called him because, you should have called him a milk cricket. But also, too, look at the flip side, right?
Starting point is 00:08:54 If you would have gotten to a car and the person had a bunch of magapriar for Nilea, how would you have felt? I wouldn't have got in that car. I would have canceled that ride. So it's kind of the same thing? Yeah, yeah. He should have canceled it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He should have canceled it. If he's been a beautiful black woman with three people in a lot. Hey, hello? Damn. Cash Patel caught the call off. The FBI ain't playing, boy. She dropped his ass on. The whole line blacked that just left.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Wow. I was going to tell her maybe she should download the Lyft app, you know, just in case people let her go so she'd have some other income coming in. That was the CIA. But also, too, man, if you want to get where you're going, just mind your goddamn business. You can't hold your political opinion for two seconds. You know what I'm saying? You get in the car, you see Barack Obama picture, Michelle Obama picture.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Shut the hell up. You're getting somebody called. You see Magapraffinae. Shut the hell up. All like she said, cancel the ride. I was going to say, just get out. Like, you, I pull off and then you tell me that you, if you knew that I was going to be black, you would have canceled.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You can always get out now. Yeah, get out right now. That's why if she did what she said and dropped his ass off in the hood, good time. But I'm like, Shalibb, I got to get to the airport. I ain't got time to mess with you. Just get me there. I don't care what you got in there.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Because the reality is you don't know what's in the person's head, a heart, you know what I'm saying? Or trunk. So you got to relax. Get it off your chest. 800585-105-105. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Good Morning. This is your time to get it off. your chest. Cheap calling. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Hey, I'm going to remain anonymous. Why? We can't see you. You can say your name is Jill Scott for all we know. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't going to say my name. Let me tell you what happened.
Starting point is 00:10:39 What happened? I worked with your airline and I got injured on the clock. And then the doctor said I can go back to work. You know, manager don't want to let me come back to work I'm 100%. But the doctor said you will never be 100%. Ain't that stupid?
Starting point is 00:10:54 No. So basically you saying you ain't trying to ever go back to work because the doctor said you ain't never going to be 100%. So you ain't never going back to work. No, I want to go back to us. I want to go back to it. But they have this dumb ass, a hundred healed policies that don't exist that they want to use. But they've got sued
Starting point is 00:11:09 for it. I don't even call top dog law. You called top dog law? What they said at top dog law? My impairment rating was too low so they can't take my thing. So what you got to What are you going to do in the meantime time? I've got to keep calling lawyers because
Starting point is 00:11:25 airlines got a history of when people get injured on the clock and let's just say they're not going to ever be 100%. They want to push them back or try to make them quit. I ain't quit it for my job. I was two damn hard to even get that job. I agree, man. I'm shocked. They might not be a good paying job, but I'm still going to try to get my job.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I've been calling lawyers and everything. But this manager, she also kind of races too. We're going to have Lauren LaRosa reach out the top. dog law for you, man. You know, she got a, she, she got a different relationship with them. So you're going to have her reach out and see what she can do for you, man. All right. Yeah, I'm lying.
Starting point is 00:12:00 He's lying. He's got your name. Right. She's nothing. He's been talking this morning. I'm sorry, mama. It just sounds good to say. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Why don't know. I'm going to have Lauren reach out. Lying. Hello, who's this? Yo, this Tia out of the 803. Tee from the 803. What's up? Get it off your chest, brother.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But, man, I'll just tell her how I'm so. blessed, man. I'm just blessed for the circle I got, even through all this hard times going on, man. I'm just blessed to have the circle like that. Shout out of my beautiful wife, Edson Taylor. I love you, babe. My beautiful son, man, lives of times, just appreciate
Starting point is 00:12:35 them things, man. That's hard out of here. That's all I said. I'm blessed, man. Yeah, you know, I pray every morning before I leave the house, I wake my wife up and we pray. And the biggest thing we pray about it is you just say, thank you God for waking us up. Thank you God for our family and the health and them kids running around. My wife.
Starting point is 00:12:51 My parents running around, thank you. You know, with a lot going on in this world, the little things are just seeing them smile is all I need to get me through the day. Yeah, that's what it's about. Hey, here, before I go, can I shout out my podcast? Go ahead, brother. Man, man, I want to shout out my podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's called the Pied about a nunning. We're going on on the night. We're now on Spotify. Shout out to my boy, Marley Bellet, Chicoor, Dunny. Man, we're here tonight. Y'all tune in. All right, brother. Have a good one.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Charlemagne Naga. We are the Breakfast Club. La Rosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The legendary. That's right. Ms. Mara Prak. Akeel. Welcome. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. Nice to be here. How are you? Less black and highly favorite. How's your energy? It's great. I'm really. I'm floating. How does it feel to have yet another hit TV show? another
Starting point is 00:13:49 another hit TV show but this is global this is like the first time I have been on a stage this big normally my shows are on up and coming networks so I feel like an ingenue actually I feel both veteran and both
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm also an awe you know it's just an idea is a global conversation that is kind of I'm sitting in that Mostly my career, I've been thinking about a national conversation. But this is a global one. And I mean, I've always known that our stories are global, but for it to be a reality, it's pretty special. And another hit, right?
Starting point is 00:14:31 To be at it. 30 years in the game. 30 years in the game. I love it. But let's talk about it. Of course, for people that are just tuning in, you created shows like girlfriends, the game, being Mary Jane. You've written on the Jamie Fox Show and so many others. But this one is.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Moisha. Moose. So many. South Central. Oh, see. So many. I see you. This one's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah. This one's on Netflix. Yeah. So how did the Netflix play come together? We're doing forever. Well, I had a deal. You know, my career did garner me a really wonderful deal. Out of that deal, I did stamp from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I hope you guys all saw that amazing documentary that Roger Ross Williams directed, but about Dr. Abraham Kennedy's work about the myths of racism. That was my first offering in my deal. And this was the second. It was special from the beginning I met Judy Ballume, somebody else's Come on, come on
Starting point is 00:15:24 Two of my favorite storytellers I know Come on, I mean And that's God First of all, I didn't even realize That the book was going to be 50 years old By the time we released It was not even in my thinking of that time
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, it came out of 75 75 It was a beautiful synergy One thing I will say about Netflix When they're behind something They are behind it, completely supported Resourced I think that's what's important to me in this moment of this hit show is that it was my vision was supported financially and it was amazing to feel like, wow, I'm supported, got money to have the vision that I want and to get the people that I need, the collaborators.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's been amazing. You said Judy Blume was your first permission slip as a storyteller. Oh, my goodness. So how does your inner child feel knowing that you have done? such justice to one of her iconic work. Why does my energy, she feels on Cloud 9. She is twirling. She is cartwheel.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I used cartwheel back in the day. I could cartwheel back band all the things. She's doing all of that. I'm very proud of myself. When the opportunity to reimagine one of her books, there was no thinking. My hand just went up. And I feel like it was a little protective as well.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It was like, I want to protect that story. I want to be able to tell that story. But my little girl is like, She's she cabbage patching. Does she feel like she made it? Do y'all feel like you made it about it? Oh, she's felt like she's made it a long while ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I think this is different in that it's a full circle moment. I feel, I often say that you become a writer as a reader first. And so I used to get lost in the pages of Judy Blum. And so for me to be just the divinity of it, like the divineness of it, that I would come full circle 50 years later, like those kinds of things, right? It's almost like it was written for me. It was written for me and Judy. Matter of fact, I'm going to get a chance to meet her personally.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'm so excited. Did you go down to Key West? Yeah, yeah, I am. Yeah, I am. You live this life once, and I'm going to live in that dream. So I'm excited to meet her. We met at the time on Zoom and talked on the phone and emailed, but just to meet her and say thank you and have her sign my book.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I'm just, that 12-year-old girl is running to Key West. I've done it a couple times. just to go just to meet miss blue absolutely yeah just to what i really would love is for people to honor more of their story the the craftsmanship sitting in the chair and writing that woman sat in the chair and wrote i mean like i mean it's like she never got out of the chair just writing and that and what it would do just someone sharing the story just like my own testimony is it ignited something in me and i think that even the feedback i'm getting from the show not just this show but the shows i've had in my
Starting point is 00:18:15 career. It is ignited other storytellers. I want us to do more by that. We have so many stories in us that will die in us if we don't even start crafting them and writing them down. Her book is still, through this show now, is still
Starting point is 00:18:31 it still lives. It's universal. It's forever. Do you what I did there? The original book was written in the 70s. Yeah, 75. Why did you choose to specifically set this story in 2018? Well, I had to look at what would make it fresh today and what to maybe have to look at what where the kids are
Starting point is 00:18:51 today and um judy and i talked about well they know a lot about sex intimacy connection those things i think we're further away even though we're more technologically advanced um we don't have though these tools are meant to connect us we are using them in very disconnecting ways and i think that to bring the phone into the conversation. It's an opportunity to talk about something unique to this culture. I mean, excuse me, culture, but this generation,
Starting point is 00:19:24 excuse me, what it is doing to them personally, emotionally, their emotional self, and then how it's even affecting their physical self and then affecting their future. And that's what the book was about. How do we explore our emotional self, our physical self while maintaining a healthy
Starting point is 00:19:40 future? I also want to talk about in the black family by changing, the white family to black, it allowed me to also talk about a time that I think is very important for us to document between Trayvon's murder and George Floyd's murder. We as black people, we as black families, as mothers and fathers, we were screaming into a vacuum about the fear over our children. And there was no amount of fancy zip codes or education that can save your child, you know, and that was scary. And I wanted, I needed a place for me. I needed a place for me as a mother to release all of that fear and then also then look at how much we are out of love
Starting point is 00:20:22 but we are raising our children from that fear that's right and how that is hurting our children and their inability to have a natural right of passage to explore again their emotional self their emotional maturity their physical self their physical maturity to have sex or not have sex, who to have it with, what's the right conditions, all of those choices that they're supposed to be making right now to protect a beautiful future. And that's another thing. We need to open up some space because our children also need a future. And it's tough out there. And I couldn't imagine being them today thinking about what do you want to be? What should grow up? Well, what's out there? And so, and we adults need to get it together. And so this is a part of my
Starting point is 00:21:11 by offering. Morning everybody is DJ NVV. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. We're still kicking it with Mara Brock Akil. Her new show Forever is on Netflix right now. Lauren. And back in the 70s, it was controversial because of the things that it explored.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney general is suing a Nashville
Starting point is 00:21:45 doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get.
Starting point is 00:22:21 None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, the shade is always Shadiest right here. Season 6 of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Jazele Bryan and Robin Dixon is here, dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac were giving you all the laughs drama and reality news you can handle and you know we don't hold back so come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday I was going through a walk in my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:22:58 out of the blue I see this huge sign next to somebody's house okay the sign says my neighbor is a Karen. Oh, what? No way! I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know... You are lying. It's humongous, y'all.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They had some time on their hands. Listen to reasonably shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets. We were in the call. like a rolling stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what?
Starting point is 00:23:45 What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets,
Starting point is 00:24:20 the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Adria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians, asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for our quality of life, but even if it's natural, why should we suffer? through it. The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything. I never used to
Starting point is 00:25:08 forget things. They're concerned that, one, they have dementia, and the other one is, do I have ADHD? There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids, to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And on therapy for black girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health, and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert, Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds us, We are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Hey, I'm Kelly, and some of you may know me as Laura Winslow. And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Matters. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years. But both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look. On each episode of Welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly
Starting point is 00:27:23 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Today it's not controversial because we are so open, like, what you talk about. When you were crafting, like, what the storyline would be and how you would redo it, were there things that you were like, I want to make sure I get to or make sure I get in this storyline? Because you also made it feel closer to home for, like, black teens. Like, now forever it feels like it's our story, but you had to do it a different way. You know what I think it's controversial? Black male vulnerability.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It's just there's no room for it. I think there's no images for it. And yet when I'm looking in the world and within my own, children, their friends, and the community beyond that, a lot of boys, and more specifically black boys, they're not all that hard. You know, they don't have any room for their complexity. They don't have any room for their feelings. Like, it's always funny to me, especially about the group of boys that I'm around.
Starting point is 00:28:16 They're all privileged. They live a great life. Time to take a picture. They were laughing two seconds ago. You're trying to take the picture, and then they get that stoic face. I'm like, what you, what's you mean mugging for? Like, you know, and you realize how. much that's imparted on young black boys all the time about what is manly, what are those
Starting point is 00:28:34 images of what a man is. I wanted to make room for the real reflection. I'm actually looking at the real thing. It's just what gets on that bigger screen and how important it is. I know we talk about representation matters. That's why it matters. You've got to see yourself in order to decide, is that beautiful? Is that how I want to look?
Starting point is 00:28:54 You know, is that right? Is that type? You know, I can't see it. And I think boys are going to see it. boys are getting their heartbroken a lot sooner. I felt so bad for adjusting the whole time. Why? Because I just felt like a lot of times the characters,
Starting point is 00:29:07 they were yearning for this space of like, I don't know, to just be okay and then things would be going good and then something else would happen. It would be something small. It would be like for Keisha, like the video gets sent to her phone and she's finally in this relationship. You know what I mean? Like things were just like happening.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I'm like, they're kids. Like, why can't they just be and not have to deal with these things? It's life. Yeah, it's life. It's also technology. We got some freedoms without, you know, that they don't, they're not afforded. That's what I want to talk about. It's like, are we making any room for them?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Like, one of the things that I love when we, every production meeting, I said we're making an epic and intimate love story within a love letter to Los Angeles, right? And what that meant to me is that we need to see them in scope, in scale, and epic. I need to see them, their bodies in the space, in Los Angeles. What that means is that it's a feeling cinematically that I'm making you feel that they belong here and when they belong here they belong to us
Starting point is 00:30:06 and so you would engage with our children differently psychologically emotionally those things are important in our image on the details the details on anyone makes them feel more human to you so I want to make just room for their humanity so that we think about the measures around technology
Starting point is 00:30:25 we think about what the rules are for these kids. I mean, like, these kids are being told today that you make one false move, you won't get a scholarship. I mean, come on. It's the truth. They follows them for the rest of their lives. For the rest of their lives. There's no humanity in that. And as much as it's a story about the kids, it's a story about the adults, right? Like, like the way Judy Blum made people feel seen at 13. It feels to me like you're making us feel seen at 40-something, 50-something. So what do those ages need that nobody's writing about? I'm going to keep saying this over there. Just more complexity, more.
Starting point is 00:30:57 more of our human side like I don't I you know I have said before I don't you know I don't really believe in positive images I think they can be just as damaging as negative images what do you mean? Expound on that yeah break that down because so the negative image is a product of
Starting point is 00:31:15 a lie going back to my the documentary like it's perpetuating the lies and the myths of us that's been out there so a lot of black people want a positive image because they want to rewrite the wrong of somebody else's view of me. But what that does as an artist, it keeps me behind the eight ball.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I'm chasing up and trying to clean up somebody else's mess. I'm from the Zorahil-Hurston School of Thought. I know my people. I see my people. I want to be able to talk about them fully. And in the spectrum of our humanity, there is light and dark. We are not perfect. To be perfect, that's just as hard to be perfect as it is to be bad.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like I want the spectrum of my humanity. I want to be able to make a mistake and have my village patch me up and put me back out there. I deserve that. You deserve that. We deserve that. And so I want the spectrum of who I am.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And sometimes I'm, you know, sometimes I'm not great. And sometimes I am in the same day, in the same hour. And I deserve that sort of exploration of who I am as a human being. And I give that to my characters. I think Don, for instance.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You know, people, there's a lot of conversation about her as a mother. But that black mother has raised a lot of kids to get them, to keep them alive. Does she deserve looking at herself? Yes. Hi, my name is Mara Brock Akeel and I'm a former Dawn.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I put my pain on the screen. I think, you know, I wanted to, out of love, I'm trying to overprotect my children. All right, we got more with Mara Brock Akeel. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. What emotional space does forever occupy that none of your previous shows have?
Starting point is 00:32:55 I think the cross-generational idea, I just think the complexity of family and the generational connection and that I just really enjoyed that. I think also the scale emotionally it allowed me to really scale us and I enjoyed that. And the kids say take up space. It allowed me to take up space for us and for myself. It's forever about love you've had, love you've lost, or love you still believe in? All the above. I believe in love. One of the things I'm really proud of with the ending, I know there's a controversy about the ending.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But what I love that Justin and Keisha showed us is how love endures and it takes shape shifts. It's dynamic can change, but love can stay present. And they showed us how to let go and keep love in that ending. I think we could learn a lot from Justin and Keisha you know the question is this a forever love or the one you remember forever and I would like to think that we as we move through our lives as human beings
Starting point is 00:34:13 that when we choose to use that word right I love you that there's a present that you were so present and so loving that even if you don't last the couple doesn't last the love can last. It just, it might shift to, wow, it might just shift to, we always just sort of text each other on each other's birthday, that you matter to me. You know, one of the fun things you realize when you're revisiting the work, especially as young people, oftentimes that's where our big dreaming happens. And those young loves that a lot of times, the best
Starting point is 00:34:50 part of you is packed in somebody else's memory of you. And so to have access, us back to those people actually is good for you to remember who you are when you lose your way. Because you're going to lose your way. And so love holds you there. So it is about the past, the present, and the future. And I think that love can take many different forms. That's right. Stop playing with Marr. Okay. Marr had hit after hit in multiple decades. That's right. Okay, screaming services, the linear television, give her what she wants. That's right. Including the $50 million for girlfriends. Can we need closure?
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's that simple. It's that simple. We've been talking about this. It's really that simple. I think it's time. And a success girlfriends has had on Netflix. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Like, they should see it. Generational success. I know. I watch that. I rewatch the whole thing with my mom. And I was like, this is so different. You know, it's fine. Finding out people are putting girlfriends on for their go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:35:46 They call it their comfort TV show that they put on. And they just let it run. And some people let it run while they go to sleep. Well, what do you want forever to give people permission to do? And that's my last question, I promise. Love. I want people to think more about love in every aspect of their life. And actually, even if we're older, that it's okay to want that first love kind of feeling.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Like, what do we need to do to get back to that first love kind of feeling? I don't know. I just think it's, I think as a human, a spirit having a human experience, dancing with love all the time has got to be our top endeavor. So that's what I want. Mara Brocka Kill, the icon, the legend. We appreciate you so much. We love you, we value you,
Starting point is 00:36:30 appreciate you, and all your work. That's right. Thank you. I really appreciate being here. Thank you, Breakfast Club. That's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's DJ NV, Just Hilarious. Salomey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. We have a woman who has represented, you know, black people, especially black women,
Starting point is 00:36:49 correctly forever. Well, Miss Felicia Rashad is here. How are you, Queen? I'm good. Good to see you. Thank you. And you're here for, I mean, we're going to talk to you about a lot of stuff. You're making your Broadway directorial debut in purpose.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yes. How did that feel? Well, it was wonderful. This is the first time I'm directing in a Broadway theater. But this play and this past, it's a real gift. I hope you'll come and see. Yeah. I hope you'll come and see.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Brandon Jacobs Jenkins is the playwright. He received the tour. Award last year for his play appropriate. And this particular production originates in Chicago at the Steppenwolf Theater. And the Steppenwolf has its own ethos,
Starting point is 00:37:33 its own legacy for theater as it was formed by actor. So it's ensemble work. And that's the best work. Absolutely. Ensemble work. But then that spirit, I watched it move through the cast
Starting point is 00:37:48 into everybody. The designers, The production office and staff, the theater staff, everybody. It's one. We call it collective intention. When I think about the things that you and your sister have done, Ms. Debbie Allen, I just wonder, what did y'all dream of when y'all was kids? When y'all was just two little girls growing up, like, what did y'all play about? What did y'all think about?
Starting point is 00:38:14 What did y'all imagine? We grew up in Houston, Texas. our father, Dr. Andrew A. Alms, a dentist. Our mother, Vivian Ayers, is a poet. We grew up with a poet. We grew up with a visionary. And it was about freedom. It was about realizing your full potential as a human being.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Can you imagine things like this, teaching little children like this? She would teach us things like she have aphorisms and she'd give them to us to say, the universe bears no ill to me. I bear no ill. to it. And we'd repeat that. The universe bears no ill to me.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I bet no ill to it. We just go around. The universe bears no ill to be. When you teach a child like this, be true, be beautiful, be free. She would say things like this to us. We grew up to be fearless, but not to be stupid. Expound on that.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Fearless but not stupid. Well, I mean, look, if you see a rattlesnake in front of you, come on. That's right. That's right. Don't be stupid. That's right. If you see a car coming your way, Don't be stupid. Absolutely. What was your mother's upbringing like?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Because she seemed like she was so still and so short of herself. And I'm sure she had, you know, experienced a lot. My mother grew up in Chester, South Carolina. Hey. I'm from South Carolina. What part? I was born in Charleston, raised in a small town called Monk's Corner. Oh, you the people.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yep. Okay. Ich Gullah. You the people. Okay, so it was a small mill time. Her father was a blacksmith. One of his brothers were the mortuary. and the other brother was a barber, and these businesses had been owned by her grandfather.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It was an agricultural community, right? But there was a school there that had been founded by the Presbyteria. There were such a number of such schools, pardon me, that had been founded by the Presbytery for the descendants of freed African people throughout the South. This school was Brainerd Institute. And in this school, there was this classical education administered by black people. My mother was always interested in music. Oh, she was quite the pianist.
Starting point is 00:40:22 She described herself to me once as saying she was a little girl swinging, high on the swing, looking up at the sky and dreaming, big dream. That's how she grew. Her mother passed away. When my mother was nine, she lost her mother. And she said as she sat at her mother's funeral and listened to the things that people were saying,
Starting point is 00:40:43 she decided none of them were intelligent enough to tell her. her anything to do. She would chart her on course at 9. At 9. At 9. At 9. And she did. It was not an easy life, but there was this spirit living in her,
Starting point is 00:41:01 burning in her, that carried her through. Her first publication is Spice of Dawn's. This is a collection of poems. Her second publication, Hawk. If you read Hawk, you will understand how I grew. This is an inner journey.
Starting point is 00:41:17 This is an allegory of freedom which parallels flight through space without a vehicle. It was published 11 weeks before the launch of Sputnik 1. Wow. What did you learn from your father? Because you said he was a dentist. Oh, my father. My father was born on the back porch of a farm in Lovdale, Louisiana. He was one of nine children.
Starting point is 00:41:42 His father worked on the railroad. He was a fireman on the South Pacific Railroad. And his mother, you know, his housekeeping, right? My grandfather put great emphasis on education, and he made sure that all of his children went to college. Imagine it. Especially in that time. Imagine it.
Starting point is 00:42:00 So, my father was a very kind and generous man. He was what was called a man's man. Men loved him and trusted him. He was always the treasurer of the dental association because they said if text takes care of the money we're in good shape he was organized he was very clean he loved music he loved theater he loved the arts he came to see any and everything we did whatever it was he was very supportive he was so handsome he did things that people didn't know he did he was like that and in his office he dealt with people's pain and anxiety every day and they came to him
Starting point is 00:42:44 and trusted him and when they couldn't pay he'd work out a payment planned for them that was convenient for them they didn't have to go anywhere and incur interest rates
Starting point is 00:42:55 he would work that out for him when my father passed away at his viewing the line stretched out of the mortuary all the way down the street all the way around the block and when the last person
Starting point is 00:43:12 came he said he looked at him He said, you don't understand. That's my dentist. And that motorcade, as I remember, that motorcade on the way to the cemetery stretched as far as the eye could see. He was so beloved. That's why I asked, just because, you know, when you look, like I said, you know, we look at Felicia Rashad and Debbie Allen, two strong queens, somebody had to raise them. Somebody had to instill that in them.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And as a father, raising four beautiful black girls, you know, I'm just always thinking about, you know, what should me and my wife be instilling? in them all the time just so they grow up to be strong black women when you love them my mom says all the time when you love them that's all if i can remember one great instruction my father gave two great instructions and i was a little girl he said never let anybody run over you i was five years old he told me that never let anyone run over you and then later on in life he said always know the balance of your bank account and keep your own money what can you tell us about the story without spoiling it but what can you tell us about the story of purpose oh this is wonderful family family drama oh and there's humor in it a young man is recalling a visit
Starting point is 00:44:28 to his home and on this night of nights so much happens in one night and so much is revealed in one night and some things are resolved that's all I'm going to tell you oh yeah Except to tell you that cast Harry Lennox, Latanya, Richardson, Jackson, Glenn Davis, Alana Arenas, and John Michael Hill. It's the most incredible ensemble that I've ever witnessed. Each one is a master and the inimitable Carrie Young, who was Lutie Bell in Curly Victoria's last season. That's our cast.
Starting point is 00:45:05 People come at the end of the play and have various reactions. One woman said, oh, that scene at the dining room table? that was my family's Thanksgiving for the past 5 years ago Relatable Right And she was not an African American woman Wow
Starting point is 00:45:21 People see themselves And that's where we know We are really doing our best work When you see yourself I was going to say speaking of doing your best work I think for a lot of us In watching you on television The iconic role of Claire Huxable
Starting point is 00:45:35 And just what that image of You know having a mom that was just so graceful And so, like, everything that you were in that show, do you, like, in real life, is there ever pressure or was there at the time for you to, like, upkeep, like, a certain, like, I don't know, like, an image or, like, just anything that people try to. No, like, so not in your house, but, like, in real life, like, in Hollywood, and other roles you were taking. And, like, you know what I mean? Like, did you ever feel like, because I think for us, like, you were, like, the perfect, like, image of, like, a black woman. Like, so I always wondered if you felt that pressure. No, light is not heavy.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Carry light, share light, light is not heavy. Even in interviews back then, you would still have the same deposition, the same grace, you know, outside of that role. I'm going to tell you the one that sticks with me. When you told Sandra's boyfriend, Alvin, that is iconic. Would you and Dr. Huxable like some coffee? Coffee? Yeah, coffee. You mean you're going to get it?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yes, you're surprised? I'm sorry, Mrs. Huxtable. I didn't think you did that kind of thing. What kind of thing? You know, serve. Serve whom? Serve him. As in serve your man? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Let me tell you something, Elvis. You see, I am not serving Dr. Huxtable, okay? Okay. That's the kind of thing that goes on in a restaurant. Now, I'm going to bring him a cup of coffee, just like he brought me a cup of coffee this morning. And that young man is what marriage is made of. and take 50-50. And if you don't get it together and drop these macho attitudes, you are never going to have anybody bring. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson.
Starting point is 00:47:18 My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney general is suing a Nashville doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. Doesn't matter how much
Starting point is 00:48:05 I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's It's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always Shadiest right here. Season 6 of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Giselle Bryan and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday. As two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold that. back, so come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. Oh, no way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's humongous, y'all. They had some time on their hands. Listen to reasonably shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people. people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't
Starting point is 00:49:44 hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top research. and top clinicians asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's
Starting point is 00:50:40 health and midlife directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for our quality of life, but even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything. I never used to forget things. They're concerned that, one, they have dementia, and the other one is, do I have ADHD? date. There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my
Starting point is 00:51:28 life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford. And on therapy for black girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health, and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert, Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you more. move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Radhi Dvluca, and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in
Starting point is 00:52:46 and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my job on my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this and I did. Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You knew anything anywhere, any place anytime ever. And then when Vanessa wanted to go to Baltimore, where I'm fragile, you see.
Starting point is 00:53:28 The wretched. Lying on the floor of some burning building, dying of asphyxia, and you're down in Baltimore. Maryland with the wretched to have big fun. Weren't you, Vanessa? Isn't that where you were? Didn't you go down there to Baltimore and have big fun, Vanessa? Tell me, didn't you go for big fun? Shut up.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Don't you dare open your mouth when I'm asking you a question. Oh, my God. When I tell you, those are my two, like, key episodes. Right. Well, yeah, because I'm from Baltimore. I didn't snuck out the house and, you know, I didn't done all that. You ain't knocked Vanessa out. I got knocked out a few times. Well, she almost did, but Cliff Calderbacked.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Well, yes, right? Right, yes, right. How do you nail a day's, like, because, I mean, you obviously pick and choose what you want to do, with your roles. Like, I watched you in Deere from Detroit. And I, like, the one scene we were all in the car, and you were talking about the temptation. Oh, yeah. She slept with the temptations?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yeah. All of them, she said. tell you right now, I felt bad watching it. I'm like, I don't think I was supposed to hear her say stuff like that. That was a character. You know what's so funny, though? The first time I saw the clips, they didn't tell me it was from a TV show. Yeah, he thought, like, what the police show was laughing?
Starting point is 00:54:41 What? He thought that you were up here, like, really reflecting on your life. I said, damn, she slept. Clay, Oxford was slept with all the temptations. No, no, no, that was a character, darling. That was a character. As actors, we play these roles. when you choose a character like that
Starting point is 00:54:59 where it's like it's a lot different than how we've seen you or how I've seen you anyway and different things that you've done what's your thinking behind is it because you want people to see you in the different lights or is it just I just want to do it? Did you see what she was doing? Yes I guess that's why I chose the character because of what she was
Starting point is 00:55:15 doing. Yeah. The people got all caught up in funny stuff. Yeah. What was that woman doing? She was rescuing people. She was rescuing people. She was living with the deepest hurt that a mother can have that she lost her child
Starting point is 00:55:30 because she was not paying attention and in her heart she felt that her child was alive somewhere and this is years later but just in a moment of being too tired and too annoyed and too distracted and wanting to do something else
Starting point is 00:55:46 she turned away and in that instant her child was taken from her and so she set about saving people she went on saving people hoping one day somebody would save her son so i choose people because i choose a character because of what people are doing yeah i want to go back to something just that um she bought up the the the elven scene right because that was a role well when you schooled elvin on i guess the marital
Starting point is 00:56:14 the marital how much input did you have on that scene and what were you trying to convey when you saw it on paper what did you say to yourself oh i know what i can do in this scene to convey a larger message. Oh, I didn't say anything. I just said the, I just said the lines. Oh, so it was just as it is? It was there. Oh, wow. It was there, but it was the way you deliver it, you know. You was like battle
Starting point is 00:56:34 rapping. What? She was working on anything. It was so good. I thought it was imprive. You know, this is a part of your training as an actor, language and how you use it. And there's rhythm and there's pace, and so much is conveyed in that way.
Starting point is 00:56:52 If you said it another way, it wouldn't be as effective. Mm-mm. Yeah. Mm-mm. You tried to say it like you was singing, The Lazy River, whether. No, it wouldn't work.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Mm-mm. It wouldn't hit, like a black mama, no, it wouldn't. What would in writers' rooms like, though? Because it felt like a black experience. Would they, black writers, white, right? I mean, what were those writers in there? A combination. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:14 The thing was to write a human story, to write about human behavior, the truth of human behavior. Yeah. That's what makes comedy and theater. real the truth of human behavior you don't have to make something up if you're writing about something that's real you can take a different perspective on it and your skills as a writer you know show up in your language or your you know those things that writers do yeah what do you do to channel roles like your role and fall from grace like well you're the villain what do you do to channel
Starting point is 00:57:52 those roles everybody's a human being right yeah she's just a nasty human this is a person who is sick her whole perspective is warped you've got to be sick to mistreat another person I'm sorry you cannot be sane and do hurtful things to people you just a sane person won't do that
Starting point is 00:58:15 do you agree 100% yeah 100% that's why one of the four agreements is you know don't don't take offense to things don't take things personal because what you do what somebody does to you is not a reflection of you is something that's going on internally with them it's hard that you know put yourself in that position but you really got to know that yeah sometimes you want to just clutch somebody that's right shake them real good my daddy used to say um you'll stop taking everything personal personal once you realize that it's a bunch of
Starting point is 00:58:43 people out here on cocaine whoa it's kind of true it's kind of true it's like people out here doing all types of stuff that you have no idea about i was going to say your time at um at how I'm a HBCU grad I went to the Delaware State. Have you ever heard of it? Yes. Wow. Get him to God, but please, thank you. Next. Exactly, right.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I wonder, like, for you, what was, like, one of your favorite things about walking on campus every day with those students as a dean? Walking on campus, everywhere I looked, I was reminded of my time there as a student. And I was reminded of my friends. And I was reminded of the things that we did in the time in which. We were living in students. It was an important time. Dr. King was assassinated in my sophomore year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah. I watched these things happen. So much unfolded on that campus, I remember when Muhammad Ali came and spoke on the steps of Frederick Douglass Hall. And I remember him standing there and said, look at me. Can't you see that I'm free? And you could.
Starting point is 00:59:51 So there was a time, you know, I would just reference him. back to my father's area dentistry. There was a time when African Americans were trained, could be trained at Harvard, but they wouldn't hire them to teach. So these people who were trained in these
Starting point is 01:00:08 great, quote, great institutions went to HBCUs to teach. You were receiving that education there, that discipline, those demands. They were serious about. When you decided not to return back,
Starting point is 01:00:24 to Howard, did you feel like you didn't return because your work was done there? Or was it just like a personal decision? Because like business reasons, like, I just feel like people like you was like, we need you on campus every day. But I know it's probably, it's a lot to do all at once. But like, what was that like for you, that decision not to go back? Well, I will always be connected. I will always be connected to Howard University. As a matter of fact, next week, I will be in Washington, D.C. for the one night only reading of Chadwick A. Bozeman's deep azure. He wrote that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:55 He wrote that. So he was one of my students early, early on. Wow. When Al Freeman Jr. invited me to come and teach for a semester. So we were in the studio doing the show Monday through Thursday. And Friday morning, I'd get up and fly down, and I'd teach. And he was one of my students, Calecci. Susan Calecci Watson was one of the students.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Camilla Fores, one of the students. He was fearless. He was brave. South Carolina. And he was also very respectful. This is why I say as a people, we are a respectful people. Yeah. We are, naturally, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So, anyway, he kept in contact with me. And after he had graduated, one day I received this call. I'm sending you something, Ms. Rashad. He would always call me back. He would send you something, Mr. Schrois. Even after he had attained fame and notoriety, he still called me Miss Rashad. Mm-hmm. Always.
Starting point is 01:01:53 So he said, okay. And what he sent was a copy of this script of the music. Hip-hop theater was born on the campus of Howard University, and he was one of the progenitors. He was one of the innovators. Hip-hop language and rhythm through the voicing experience
Starting point is 01:02:08 of a classically trained act. It is grand. I had a question about the deep azure. So the proceeds from the One Night Only are going back to the College of Fine Arts at Howard. That's Howard. College of finals, yes. Would, like, today, if Chadwick could see kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:27 how the final product has come along and everybody that's involved, like, what would his sentiments be? Like, how happy would he be to see all of this coming to fruition from that first phone call that you guys had about it? I'll tell you, his wife is very, and his producing partner who was his best friend in college. They're very happy. And I'm very happy because it's happening.
Starting point is 01:02:47 God, we're so honored. We're so honored. And our honorary host committee. I mean, you know who's on that? So the honorary host committee, Ryan Coogler is the honorary chair. Wow. Common, Susan Kalici, Watson, Don Cheadle, Tanisi Coates. Tana Hassee.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I'm sorry, Tana Hosey Coates, Camilla Forbes, Reginald Huntland, Kenny Leon, and Terrell Alvin McCraney. That's like the Black Avengers. Wow, yes. That's a whole number universe right there. It's all to support his legacy. Yeah. To support his legacy. So Chadwick was, he was really amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Chadwick was an actor, yes. Chadwick was a writer, Chadwick was a director, Chadwick was a scholar. He studied many things, the etymology of words. He was deep into that, into names and the meanings of it. He studied the Bible, not to Bible thump, but to understand its origins, really, and its deeper meanings. And then he combined all of that with You know
Starting point is 01:03:55 I hate to say it like this But I'll say it like this With African cosmology Why do I hate to say it like that? Because Africa's a huge continent And it is not a monolithic Proposition Right
Starting point is 01:04:07 But there is a certain ethos That runs through all He was There was nobody else to play Black Panther But Chadwick And you know
Starting point is 01:04:18 What do he really cared about he called me one day and this was after graduation he was living in new york and he was so excited and he wanted me to know what he was doing and to come and see and i was thinking okay now let's see what premiere is this uh what film is this what play is this it was none of that he was working with young people in the shamburg library and he was so excited about that yeah that's amazing you've been so gracious with your time So I just got a couple more questions. What's a lesson you learned way too late in life
Starting point is 01:04:54 that you wish you figured out sooner and you would teach you the next generation? It was that I'm enough. As a young girl growing up, you know, and young girls go through this, you'll know. You go through a period where you feel like, and it's because you're looking outside yourself, you compare yourself to everyone else you see
Starting point is 01:05:14 and you're not enough. Because you don't dress like that one or you don't have hair like that one, or you don't have legs like that one. You can think of any number of things. Young girls go through this kind of thing usually happens around adolescence where you feel like you're not enough.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Part of that had to do with my mother being so beautiful, my father being so handsome, my sister being so cute, my brother being so whatever. And I just thought, well, when I was born, the Lord was doing something else. So when did you get to that place of Worvey? When did I get to that place?
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah. I think I was about 34, 35 years old. Wow. And now I look back at those pictures of myself and I say, why did you feel like that? Yeah, yes. Yeah. The mind, that's why it's important to teach young people to look inside, the mind, the state of mind. And there's too much going on right now that's so distracting for them.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I don't know how young people feel if it's. listen to news reports today. They can't feel empowered. Because it's not meant to do that for us, for anybody. Well, thank you, not just for the interview, but for your career of things. Thank you. Just thank you for being you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It is not every day you get to meet people that you grew up on and watched. You know, said to yourself, man, that person right there is a pillar of our community and what we need to be as a people and then you meet them and you're just being gracious and regal in person. Thank you. Thank you to your mother and your father for raising such a beautiful, strong woman. Thank you. And I hope I can do the same for my daughters. I think you are.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I think when they look at you, they know that they're loved and they're protected. That's all you need. Absolutely. Make sure y'all go check out Purpose is running through on Broadway through July 6th. It is Queen Felicia Rashad. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:14 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Say it again, Shalame. Donkey. Yes, you are a dog. I'll show you how to have a donkey. Everything that Charlotte made the same is true. Donkey today goes to LaTranch battle.
Starting point is 01:07:30 LaTranch battle is a 52-year-old Bay County, Florida woman. What did your uncle, Shala, always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. Salute to everybody who listens to us on 104-5 to beat in Orlando. Drop on a clues bombs for Orlando. I was in Orlando majority. the weekend. I figured out what makes Florida crazy. It's the heat. Okay, there is studies that show
Starting point is 01:07:54 how excessive heat impacts your mental health. Okay, by the way, we in the black community have always known this. But over the years, with climate change, global warming, the world has gotten hotter. Therefore, places like Florida have gotten hotter. So people have gotten crazier. I'm not debating with you about this. It's science. Okay, studies suggest that heat can have a significant impact on mental health, potentially leading to increased irritability, anxiety, and even aggression. High temperatures can disrupt sleep, impact cognition, and affect mood, potentially exasperating pre-existing mental health conditions.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So yes, people in Florida are crazy because it's hot. Global warming has made people even crazier, okay? That's all I got. But one thing about people in Florida, they are creative, very, very creative. They do things that make you say, wow. that's a unique crime. Okay, I've never seen that before. And that's the case with LaTran's battle.
Starting point is 01:08:51 See, LaTran's battle was upset that her ex-boyfriend had a new wife. Now, I could play a game of guess what race it is, but I need to tell you what race they are for proper context. La Trance Battle is a black woman, as far as I can tell, and her ex-boyfriend's wife is clearly a foreigner based off the facts of this situation,
Starting point is 01:09:10 based off the fact is Florida, and based off what LaTrance did to her. I can only assume she's some type of Latino. Now, if you were a black woman, okay, and you're in Florida and your ex-boyfriend's wife was Latino in 2025, and you wanted to get her out of the picture, what would you do? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Let's go to news for news for the report, please.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Investigators say a woman posed as an immigration officer to pull off a deer in kidnapping. They also claim Latrant's battle. had a police type radio and a business car to persuade another woman. She was an ICE officer. According to the Bay County Sheriff's Office, the victim eventually escaped. A battle faces kidnapping and other charges. 10-10 for our creativity. Round of applause.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Okay. She clearly committed to the role. She had a costume, a t-shirt that's at ice on the front. She had props. She had some type of little walkie-talkie that looked like a radio. She clearly had the language because she was able to convince the woman to come with her. She was able to convince the woman
Starting point is 01:10:16 that she was indeed a night agent and you needed to come with me. Now, where she went wrong was she clearly didn't plan all the way to the end because this feels very wily coyote roadrunnerish. She didn't think about what she was going to actually do
Starting point is 01:10:29 if she caught her. I feel like she didn't have a plan after kidnapping her unless she was going to take her to this apartment complex to kill her. But I'm going to tell you how dangerous this was for her ex-boyfriend's wife.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Do you know how many Latinos are afraid to have any interactions with Lauren because they believe it's going to lead to them having to deal with ice and possibly being possibly be deported this woman believed latran was an ice agent because she is currently in the process of becoming a legal u.s resident but trance had to know that too and that's how she knew she could get this off that could have ended up really bad for her ex-boyfriend's wife but hell maybe that's what let trance wanted i don't know all i know is i have to give lettrance an e for effort and i have to give lettrance an e for effort and i have to give a D for a donkey. And you know what else rhymes with D? He, as in Hall. And that's exactly what I want you to give
Starting point is 01:11:20 LaTranch battle right now. We live in a cruel, cold, hilarious world. Y'all want to play a game? We know the race. Let little Red Rearie. Let him
Starting point is 01:11:37 you know you don't listen. Sure, NB. You want to play a game? Nope. I don't want to play a game with you. Oh, okay. All right. I'm sorry, I don't listen. I didn't listen. I just turned the mic back on. I'm broadcasting live.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I didn't listen. What you called envy? He's a little red reread Rie. I caught the end of it. I caught the end of it. You caught the tip. Pause. Morning everybody.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's DJ NVJ. NV. Just hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. La Rosa is here with us as well. And we got a special guest in the building today. No, these are icons.
Starting point is 01:12:11 These are some icons. These are some icons. All right. I think legend is even an understatement. I can only think of one word, Queens. And then another word, icons. That's it. But there you have it.
Starting point is 01:12:23 We have Stephanie Mills, Patty LaBelle, and Shakakad. Welcome. Come on now. Welcome. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltsin. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney general is suing a Nashville
Starting point is 01:12:48 doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. Doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get.
Starting point is 01:13:24 None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always shady is right here. Season 6 of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Jazele Bryan and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. I was going through a walk in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is is a Karen. Oh, what? No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'all.
Starting point is 01:14:26 They had some time on their hands. Listen to reasonably shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health. and gynecology at the Adriah Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through
Starting point is 01:14:59 menopause. It can be such a struggle for our quality of life, but even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything. I never used to forget things. They're concerned that, one, they have dementia, and the other one is, do I have ADHD? There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids, to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast,
Starting point is 01:15:40 family secrets. We were in the car, like a rolling stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately
Starting point is 01:16:28 reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The moments that shape us often begin. with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and on therapy for black girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health,
Starting point is 01:16:54 and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert, Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The social media trend that's landing some Gen Zier is in jail. The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. I'm going to take Francesco off the network entirely. The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense.
Starting point is 01:17:49 I will continue getting stuff from Target, and I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers, whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up. with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the brad versus everyone podcast hosted by me brad palumbo every day of the week i bring you on a wild ride through the most del lulu takes on the internet criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective join in on the insanity and listen to the brad versus everyone
Starting point is 01:18:28 podcast on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts how are y'all feeling you I look amazing. Thank you. We're happy to be here. We are. We're happy to be here. Good morning. Now, y'all are on the Queen's store.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Why couldn't this have happened decades ago? Like decades ago, why couldn't people put this together? Weren't old enough? Weren't old enough? No, I just think it wasn't the right time. I think this is definitely the right time. And Patty and Gladys and I have worked together, and I've always wanted to work with Shaka. So they came together and put it together, and I was like, yes, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Is there enough time for a show to have? Y'all have so many hits, so many records. How long is the show? How long is this concert? It's about two hours long. It's not long. We have quick, quick moments. We have like 50 minutes apiece.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And you can Holly say hello and good night with that. That's what we do. Man, man, man, man. How do y'all decide who closes, though? I feel like that might have been a little debate on who closes. No, not really. Shaka closes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Gladys opens. I come on second, and then Miss Patty. Miss Patty comes out. I like to open the show. and get that position. Me actually, if he took us out of the home world. What you do we do, right? Oh, that's why you like to open the show?
Starting point is 01:19:42 Yeah. Okay. Leave, honey. Yeah. You would get home? Yeah. I don't know. Watch her.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'll eat some cookies. Some cookies. At this stage in your careers, is it harder or easier to navigate? I guess ego would be the right word. Are there any egos? No, I don't. We haven't seen any. No.
Starting point is 01:20:03 We haven't seen it. Not, no way. God is the only ego. God is the only ego. It's the onest one. Yeah. Ms. Chalka Khan, when you said you guys weren't old enough to do this, that's a joke. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:16 It's a joke. I just don't think that one I said. No, I mean, because when you mentioned God is the only ego, I didn't know if it was like you were saying that you had to get to a point where that's something that you realized in the industry because you deal with so many egos navigating. I still am. It never stopped. Life never stopped.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah. Is there any friendly competition? No. No, not at all. No, not at all. Just doing your second movement? We just do our thing. Yeah, we have fun watching each other and doing each other.
Starting point is 01:20:44 No, individual. We've got to keep on giving it. Individual in our rights. We are all different people. We do. We do. Individual. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:53 So how did this all come together? Because I know it's hard to get any of y'all to want to do something. You know, because y'all's got great lives already. Schedule. So we're going to tour as a collective, like, Well, the whole thing with me was that I felt that this is going to be a one-off ever in life. Like one concept? Some of us.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Some of us, you know, we weren't going to get the chance to be able to be seen together on one stage and one night for all of us. So, and when I realized the importance of that, for the people who grew up listening to our song, babies to a winged owner's hearing all, that was what was going to compel me. You know, we have a surprise about the, the ages of people that come to the show, because it varies from young teens. No, I expected that. I did because I get it off the chat. You know, kids, I'm saying, I was weaned on you. Right. You know, so they made children on our music.
Starting point is 01:21:52 People have babies on our music. But when you have those young individuals in the show, let's say they're 21, 22, and they're trying to holler at you. Does that shit like, I still got it? No, I don't get nobody. Why are you talking like that? He's talking about young boys trying to come at you. They're like, why? They still look so beautiful that actually
Starting point is 01:22:11 just telling that. Hey, God, I'm just asking the question. Just say that. I'm just like, I'm like, damn. I don't want no young boy. Tell them, Ms. Mill. I don't. I want to mature and older.
Starting point is 01:22:24 But the problem with them is they want the young girls. Why I don't know? I know. Especially when y'all look like this. What you want a 20-year-old grad? And that's why I went out. Because we want to show them that this is how you age. Graceful.
Starting point is 01:22:34 That's right. And you could still do your thing. That's what, we're all beautiful. Do you, I have a routine to, like, keep your voice strong and your body ready? Sleep. I sing every day, and I go about six days a week. I'm serious. Patty sings.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah, I mean, I don't sing every day. She don't sing every day, but she keeps it together. I'll be hitting those high notes. Thank you. Thank you, honey. I do what I do. I, you know. And at 81, I'm still.
Starting point is 01:23:03 She's the queen She's the queen She's the queen She's the queen She's my queen Yes My baby I still have
Starting point is 01:23:11 I still have a pull-up I promise I was gonna come One Thanksgiving My kids are a little older now So they're a lot They'll sit in the corner When you tell them to sit in the corner now So I'm gonna pull up one Thanksgiving
Starting point is 01:23:21 If I'm sitting there You should Okay We're gonna be playing I love it You can see us A big place of food That's gonna be cooking
Starting point is 01:23:30 That's a good food They can be cooking Are you cooking for them on some of the stops? You know I would like to. I'm not letting the cuckoo because why. Because after the tour, at the end. She's being good.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Because, yeah. I'm trying to be good. No, I better not then. Do you all feel like toys like this remind people where the real show is supposed to be? Yes. Absolutely. That too. Because we have real band, nothing's tape.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Our microphones are on. They work. We are singing. Yes, we are actually singing. And do you think fans have the same appreciation for live instrumentation and raw vocals that they did like when y'all first hit the stage decades ago? I think so.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I think that's why. Some of them may not even know the difference. Someone may not even know what the hell's going on. You know? And that's what's unfair and messed up about it. Is that when you go up there you should represent yourself. Honestly. You know, you sing in the mic. You know, if you have to have
Starting point is 01:24:24 tricks and gags and Googles and stuff like that, you know, do what you got to do. But I'm saying, I'm not about it. I've walked on, we walk on the stage, many a giant horse. Can't hit all the notes. That's just the way life is.
Starting point is 01:24:39 You know, but you give everything. You give everything. You got it. And that is something that people can definitely, you know, they can feel that. What do you think to make this tour so important, right? Because seeing so many icons and queens and legends on that stage,
Starting point is 01:24:53 you don't get to see that so much. But the fact that we see it with you guys, what makes it so important? And why did you all guys agree to do it? It's important that we, as black women, represent ourselves, the right. way. Like Steph said there's no pretend singing, no stuff, because people have a lot of stuff in their shows.
Starting point is 01:25:11 We just go out and sing. No tricks. Yeah, tricks. There's nobody flying through the air. None of that. Not that that's not good, but, I mean, we just give shows like we did back in the day. Just pure, raw, flat foot, stand there and sing. I mean, we come from, like, actually similar but almost the same generational or generation levels are like like that stairs and it's close
Starting point is 01:25:36 you know they're close enough yet far enough apart to reach a really big audience you know what I'm saying a huge audience and it's just been by the grace of God that it's going together in such a it's a good way
Starting point is 01:25:52 Ms. Mills we saw you earlier this year you called out the Essence Festival and I thought it was constructive criticism. You know, it wasn't like you was just bashing him.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Why did you feel the need to do that? She did that. I was so happy people. Because I was there the whole weekend and I saw all the acts
Starting point is 01:26:09 and it was just very poorly run and it didn't it didn't show respect to the artist. You know, and I remember essence from Susan Taylor
Starting point is 01:26:21 and Mr. Lewis and it was always prestigious and ran with respect. And that just was not there. So I could not sit and let them accuse, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:34 people for being late when it was them that was late and running late. I just, it bothered me. And at 68, I really don't care what people think about me. I'm going to stay and do what I want to do. I feel like I've earned that right. So I wanted to call them out, but I
Starting point is 01:26:50 did it respectfully. I didn't want to be ghetto about it. I wanted to be constructive and that's what I did. Well, they said they were going to fix it. They said they were getting down to the bottom of the things that went wrong and they were going to make sure that they fixed them. I'm glad. They took full of, you know, accountability.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Because Patty was there. Oh, honey, it was awful. It was awful. Yeah, so when I saw what you did, I said, go girl. Keep on talking. Don't stop. Yep. She tells me, keep on talking.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Don't stop. Yeah. You have a lot to say. So what did you do, Ms. Label? You got it to them privately or? Did I what? Did you say anything to them privately or? No.
Starting point is 01:27:24 No. And I had one song with Jill Scott's. Right. I couldn't. chat too much about anything because I didn't have a set of my own you know so I knew somebody would take care of it I felt like I spoke
Starting point is 01:27:36 for everybody you know what I'm saying I feel like I feel like I'm not afraid I don't have any fear I only fear God so I'm not afraid when people say oh if you do this you're going to be blacklisted I'm black already so you know what I'm saying I don't really care I'll put on my
Starting point is 01:27:52 glasses and see if I give it damn about it you were there the whole weekend so you see a bunch of art I've seen a bunch of artists. I saw what they did. I saw how late they were putting the shows together. And I had an incident with the owner's daughter. And I didn't talk about that, but it was just not respectful.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I was going to ask, what artists are you loving right now that you've seen since you've watched a lot of the shows? They're artists right now that just came out to me like, I really like that person. That person is doing an amazing job. I love Jasmine Sullivan. I love Selena Johnson. I love I love Layla Hathaway You know
Starting point is 01:28:30 I love a lot of the singers But see I listen to a lot of the old When I'm singing to get ready for my shows I'm doing Ashford and Simpson And I do them because they sing the melody But they still go around it So they stay in the pocket And that's what I
Starting point is 01:28:47 That's what I try to do And then I listen to my songs So I could sound somewhat like I sounded back in the day What about you, Shaka Khan? Is there artists right now that you like an R&B artist that Yeah, I would like a lot of them. It goes on it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 But I really like her. Her. She's special. Yeah, we're going to do some stuff together. Really? He's the closest thing to Prince. That's so funny. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Patty LaBelle, who do you feel? Honey, I know. Young people. So many. So many. Yeah, I mean, I do love Cocoa. Oh, yeah. Go-go Jones?
Starting point is 01:29:19 Oh, wow. She says singing full, honey. You know, like. He says she's singing fool. She is. she sings her face off. There are so many young girls who are singing. I might not remember names, but I know I like certain music.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Now, some of these artists reached out to do besides her reached out to do records and would y'all consider doing it, or you're like, I don't know. Well, there's some thoughts, you know, me and Cardi B possibly. You and Cardi B? Oh, that's funny. I love that. Oh, that's so much fun. Oh, you're thinking about it?
Starting point is 01:29:48 Oh, how have you done it? You on her new album? You on her new album? No. Oh. Oh, she wants to do something. Oh. She's going to be on hers.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah. No, Cardi's my girl. We did a commercial together. Mm-hmm. Bond it. But, um, I haven't had a record out in like 15 years of R&B albums for 20 years. And I've been working on her for the last six months, but I got it coming. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:14 You're still on tour. Very fabulous. So, Cardi, what about you, Shaga? You're calling, man. I'm sorry, Shaka Khan. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:22 He's on me Shaka. Shaka Khan, Shaka Khan, let me rock a Shacki. You can go on me. Shaka. I want to. I want to say Ms. Shaka. I can't say Ms. Shaka? Whatever makes you comfortable. Ms. Shaka, what about yourself? The beginning of the year.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Yeah. I have, um, Sia and I have gotten together to do the little pop album. And, um, I got, oh, Snoop is on there. I got Snoop rapping on one. Mm-hmm. Um, but I got quite a few other surprises.
Starting point is 01:30:46 But it's, it's gonna be interesting. I saw, uh, you perform with Dua Lepa as well, too. Yeah, Doolipa. We did. We jammed. Yeah, I came a jammed with her the other day. How do you pick and choose All three of you ladies How do you pick and choose Like when artists call you and say
Starting point is 01:30:59 Hey I'm like almost paying tribute We'll love to have you Where you're like you laying Your actual face and presence To an artist If they can sing That's it
Starting point is 01:31:07 Oh Come on now I'm a singer Do something special Yeah I mean Cardi's not a singer Right But she's special
Starting point is 01:31:15 Yeah Mm-hmm And entertainer Yeah You know what I'm saying Would you say You made more money Now in the last
Starting point is 01:31:23 10 years than you did in your career? Absolutely. Absolutely. Why? Right now? Well, because I'm independent and I'm more verbal about what I want.
Starting point is 01:31:34 I know exactly what I want. I know how I want it to be done. I know what percentages I want. So, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. What about you, about how much of the industry's changed and how much is the state of the same?
Starting point is 01:31:49 It's changed a lot. I think women are getting more play these days. And like Stephanie said, you have to know what your work, and you have to know that who's ever doing your business with you, they're safe, which is hard to find. You know, my son is with me forever. Oh, go ahead. No, no, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I just want to say that you have to know your worth and you have to be willing to say no and not chase the money because all money ain't good money. Right. Yeah, because it's real. I mean, you can't go out and say, I'm going to do this and you embarrass yourself where you talked about Bailey for taking
Starting point is 01:32:26 that check. Right. You know, so I know all of these things are done well with me and my son. Like, he'll stop it in a minute no matter how much it is. So, you know, I'm blessed again, I'm blessed with business and business sense. What about you,
Starting point is 01:32:42 Ms. Shaka? How does how does the industry change? What I was found on that again? No, you know, the big You know, the big house, the big, you know, the big companies. I was very thrilled. I was thrilled when I found out that a lot of artists,
Starting point is 01:33:04 especially hip-hop artists were, like, in their hotel room. Cutting records. I was like, yes, that's the way it should be. Absolutely. And Prince and I went through a really big fight with, you know, for some years, you know, about how crucial. because they were. So finally, I'm
Starting point is 01:33:26 in a good place. I own everything. I'm of mine. You have to come through me first. If there's one message you want the audience to take away after seeing all of you all of y'all perform together, what is it? Unity.
Starting point is 01:33:42 And that we respect each other. Love. Peace. We've been talking about this for years. You know, doing so together. This is when this came. So here's our chance You know
Starting point is 01:33:55 Well ladies To look to Ms. Gladys Night too She's also on the community Yes And you know And kudos And love to Gladys is like sweet potato This may be the last time
Starting point is 01:34:04 We ever see our state I hope not So that's why she's not with us today Yeah She's rehearsing Because she has other jobs Yeah We love Gladys
Starting point is 01:34:13 She's amazing Yeah she's phenomenal I grew up on her Yeah Well thank you ladies For joining us The Queens The Queens
Starting point is 01:34:21 The Legends The icons. And make sure you go out there and get all Ms. Patty LaBelle products. You know, Thanksgiving right around. That's sweet potato bar. New syrup. New Serp to go with my pancake.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Oh, you do? Yeah, it's in Kroger's in somewhere. I don't know. But I do have it as out tomorrow. She's an institution. I'm sorry. Charles of Texas. Charles ain't Texas yet.
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