The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club Presents : Cut To It Podcast

Episode Date: December 29, 2020

 With the holidays here, The Breakfast Club is going to take a little break but we’ve got a little something for you! We are gifting you with a brand new podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network!Sit back, relax, and check out this new podcast from Steven Smith Sr & Gerard Littlejohn. ‘Cut To It’ Podcast is here to bring you interviews from your favorite athletes, entertainers, and more! They ask the questions that we all want to know, but no one ever asks.This epsiode Steve and G cut to it with surprise guest, Michael Vick. In part one of this two-part interview, your hosts cut deep into Vick’s career as one of the most talented quarterbacks in the NFL, while dealing with enough roadblocks and tough lessons for two lifetimes. It’s not all heavy, though. Vick and Steve have plenty of stories to make you laugh -- including one surprising response Steve receives after cat-calling an elderly man. Make sure you listen to Cut To It’ Podcast on the Black Effect or wherever you get your podcast! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Steve Smith Sr. And I'm Gerard Littlejohn. And this is Cut To It. Cut to it. Cut to it. Let's get down to it. Cut to it. We ask the questions you always want to know,

but no one ever asks. Let's cut to it. I ask the questions you always want to know, but no one ever asks. Let's cut to it. If you ain't heard about it, then we're about to let you know. Cause you know it's on. It's on. Cause you know it's on. Okay. All righty.

Me and my wife foolishly decided we were going to play tennis over the weekend in the... Just, it was hot. It's been sticky. We in North Carolina. We in Charlotte, for those of y'all who don't know. So it gets humidity. It is painstakingly hot outside. It's been hot in North Carolina. I mean, it's been 90 degrees in October, November, right?

We've had a Thanksgiving where it's been like 84 degrees, which is, you know. And it feels like 97 with all the humidity. Yeah, so it's different. So we decided we were going to play tennis, right? And so where we play tennis, they also have some, it's a pool right there. So there was a guy. He was about 60 years old. And, again, he was by the pool.

So he was walking from the pool past the tennis courts to his car to go in, to leave. And he had on, he didn't have on a shirt. Okay. So he was, again. Sons out, guns out. Sons out, guns out. But he was 60 years old. So he had it for a 60-year-old man or maybe could have been older.

He was pretty fit. Okay. And he wanted everybody to know. Guns still loaded a little bit. He wanted everybody to know, look, I'm old, but I'm still handling business. Yeah. So I look over, and one just, you know, I was always taught respect your elders. So I look over and I said, hey, sons out, guns out.

He said, yeah. I said, hey, but you got those guns registered? Mm-hmm. He looked at me and said, nah, I ain't shot these in a while, bro. He had his clip loaded waiting for you to ask. He wanted someone. That's why he didn't have a shirt on because he was waiting for someone to ask. He said, yeah, I ain't shot these.

No, what did he say? I haven't discharged these in years. And what I loved about that is, one, when I was acknowledging, hey, I see you working old. I see you working young, man. It was really cool because when I get 60 or 70 years old, man, I still kind of want a four-pack at least. A four-pack? Right? The other two are still in the cooler.

Still in the cooler, right? Because, obviously, when you're 60 or 70, you ain't working out like you used to. But just to have a two-pack? Yeah. Man, that's progress. Because there's a lot of 30-year-olds that are walking around with kegs. They ain't got no packs. Did he run up on you like he wanted to try you?

Or he just ran? He wasn't like that? No, he was strolling by in his flip-flops and his shorts and his shirt. And I was fully dressed in 90 degree weather playing tennis. And people are like, really, Steve, you play tennis? Actually, I'm a 3'5 in tennis. What does that mean? That means there's 5'0.

I mean, 4'5, 4'0, 3'5, 3'0, 2'5, 2'0. 2'0 is you're terrible. A 3'5 is you can play a little bit, run around. I love to exercise. I'm actually a huge tennis junkie. Love, love tennis. I grew up watching Andre Agassi.

And here on Cut Tool, we also eventually have some tennis guys too. Brothers talking tennis? That's what I'm talking about. Obviously, Arthur Ashe, but there's a lot of different guys here in North Carolina. There's Andy Murray,

really good friends. He grew up in Greensboro. John Isner. Obviously, you got the Serenas that's down the street from the house in L.A. West Coast girls. I remember I had a unique opportunity to visit James Blake when he was playing. His mom actually was his trainer and really kind of kept him in focus.

So I was pretty good. So I love tennis. An intense dude. That's crazy, man. An intense dude like you, savage on the field, swinging tennis club. Why do you say it like that? No, I'm not judging you. Yeah, you are.

I'm not judging you at all. I'm just saying I find it interesting that a guy like yourself— If you continue to keep backpedaling, you're going to hit the water cooler over there. That's cool. I play a little DB in my life, but I'm just saying I do. Seriously, I find it interesting that you play tennis. Why? I mean, it's cool because I think, for one, I mean, you are a football player.

You're a tense dude and tennis is such a quote-unquote country club sport that um yeah I really find it interesting and honestly I find it cool even for me like my daughter who's six your niece Mia um she loves swimming and she loves playing golf two things that I never grew up around where I'm from. So, honestly, what I'm saying is I find it cool that you can invest yourself in a sport that otherwise, you know, places that we're from, you don't typically play. So, honestly, I find it really cool that, you know, in your later stages in life, you can find something like that that really keeps you fit, keeps you focused, and keeps you really, you know, keeps you around some sort of competitiveness.

Man, let me tell you in tennis, you want to get ran, play some old folks. They give you the business. Give you the business. Because in tennis, tennis is a mind game, right? And it's ball placement. And a lot of the older people don't have that movement like they used to. But they're playing from a mental standpoint and so they so i played an older guy yeah and got my butt whooped and he ran me i mean ran me off the court because ball placement i'm over there i'm running from side to side baseline

to baseline that dude was out there, out there running for no reason. He was out there like, hmm. And just cross court. Throwing darts. Bing! But I love tennis because it's a great sport in which it requires mental fortitude, strategy, but you can also hit the snot out of the ball. Yeah.

And then they could return it. Same velocity. Even more. Or they can set you up. So it's a lot of mental aspect of it. It's a lot of chess. And you was a big mouth bass out there. I was, but that old man taught me something.

I'll run them into the ground right now. But, you know, that ain't going to happen. But I really love tennis. And so me and my wife play tennis together. My boys, I am a Ducey. We call him Ducey Maguse. Steve Smith, Jr. I have brainwashed him into being a tennis player.

Okay. He's going to become a tennis player. And then I will be able to live in Italy for a year or two because he'll be training out there. Oh, so we're going to be recording from Italy. I like it. I don't really care where we record from, but I'm getting to Italy at some point to just be there for a year and let him train in Italy. And then I can blow up by eating a whole bunch of pizza. There you go.

There you go. There you go. So, G, let's cut to it. And who's our guest for today? Because I don't know who it is. We talked about some guys, and then now I got, like, a surprise guest that you're supposed to be telling me. And so now I'm just going off the – I am literally –

I have no questions in front of me because you guys didn't tell me. So if this show seems a little bit erratic today, that's only because they surprised me with a guest, and I don't know who it is, but I think it's going to be an awesome guest. All right, coming up, we got a very special surprise guest, an icon, a legend, Michael Vick. He went to Virginia Tech University. He's a four-time pro bowler. He was

the NFL comeback player of the year in 2010, and he's the NFL's all-time leader in rushing yards by a quarterback over 6,000 yards. Michael Vick. Thanks for coming on to the Cut To It podcast, brother. Thanks for having me, man Cut To It podcast, brother. Thanks for having me, man. It's just a pleasure to be on. A pleasure to be on. This segment we're about to go into is called Get Iced Up with Smitty. It's basically our icebreakers.

So be prepared for anything. Smitty, I'll let you take it from here. Favorite childhood cereal? Captain Crunch. Ooh. Good pick. Captain Crunch. It was flavorful, especially when they started throwing the flavors up in there. It got better as the years went on.

That's a hood favorite right there. Oops. That's a hood favorite. All the hood favorites. That's a hood favorite right there. All berries, yeah. All berries. And they had the blueberries and the red berries came.

Yup. It was popular. It was popular. The summer activity you love to do? Swimming at the Boys and Girls Club. That was my thing. You know what I mean? That was my thing. Swim, swim, swim.

And it made me stronger. It made me better, you know, as a football player, you know, growing up where I grew up because I was stronger than everybody. Nobody liked to swim but me. And it was a passion growing up. So swimming at the Boys and Girls Club. Now, I know you had a ton of fast twitch. However, now you retired.

So how you wearing those shoes? You got shoelaces or Velcro? I got shoelaces. Campbell, you trying to disrespect the icon like that, giving him Velcro shoes. I can't get caught in the Velcro. If you ask me this 10 years from now, then you might get a different answer.

Man, we can't have you in Velcros at all. When I hit the big 50, yeah. I ain't throwing on Velcros. Here come Mike. Oh, let me strap up real quick. All right, look, man. Well, we really appreciate you coming on. And the purpose of our podcast really is to get the insight

and understand the man, the woman, as well, inside the jersey. We want you to start off before we really get into really who Michael Vick is just set the stage like where'd you grow up how'd you grow up right and and and really how and where you grew up how did that shape your life, good and bad? And so paint that picture for us. We all know, you know, the good and the bad. Yeah. But it all started from somewhere. Where is that place?

It started in Newport News, Virginia, a place I considered home for 18 years until I left Virginia Tech. You know, I moved around to a couple different neighborhoods from the age of, you know, six until I was about 10 years old. So I always had different crews of friends, which was cool, until I moved into my last neighborhood, Brittany Circle, where I grew up, you know, from the age of 10 to like 18 and met all my last neighborhood, Brittany Circle, where I grew up, you know,

from the age of 10 to like 18 and met all my friends who, you know, I got to know and still friends with guys to this day, but had dreams with

and, you know, thought about what life would be like with, you know, as a young man growing into an older man, you know,

we went through everything together, you know, we went through, you know, the preteen years and the teen years and you know to playing football and liking girls and you know everybody had their own set of goals and dreams and you know it was so you know it was a tough situation to grow up in because you know you don't know you don't have a lot you know until you go surround somebody who has a lot and one of my cousins, his mom and dad was in the household

and they both had good jobs. And, you know, I seen a different side of life. And I'm like, you know, I want that life, you know, even though I don't have what he has, you know, if I can experience that and learn from that experience, you know, it helps shape and mold me to, you know, me thinking like, I want more than what we have. And, you know, I started to, you know, me thinking like, look, I want more than what we have. And, you know, I started playing, you know, football at like the age of seven.

And it was like the coolest game ever. You know, I didn't start out as a quarterback. You know, I was a running back at first. That's a different story. But, you know, the dream started right there. And I was like, man, they get paid for this? You know, I'm pretty good at this you know I think this is something that I want to do and you know fast forward to you know from the

age of 10 to 18 it was like man you got to do so much in order to get a scholarship to go to you know college and to to play in the National Football League so I looked at the journey that I had to travel and I I'm like, man, this is tough. But as a 10-year-old kid, I was like, I'm prepared for that journey. So, you know, growing up in that environment prepared me for that journey. I think my friends and the guys I grew up with, the guys I really grew up with, they helped me with that journey.

And then, you know, it was high school, college, and then. But when you say guys I really grew up with. I say that, Steve, because I really feel like, you know, my two best friends, my two besties, a guy named Jamal Wilson and Kevin Stanley, were the guys that when we touched 18, we all went our separate ways. They both went in the military and I went on to college. And then it was, you know, guys that I met, you know, over time. And, you know, when Kevin wasn't playing football

and Jamal wasn't playing football, I got closer with my teammates. Some of those guys good dudes. Some of them was bad dudes. But they became my friends, and I hung out with them. And, you know, we kind of made decisions and choices together, you know, good and bad. And, you know, it was what it was. But those two guys that I just named were, you know, my guys.

And to this day, like, they still, like, my besties. The ones that are going to tell me, like, nah, you're making a bonehead decision or, you know, you shouldn't do that. They're not afraid to tell me no. You know, and that's been the biggest telltale sign of why, you know, those guys are my – they've always been my besties, man. They always will be.

You know, so, you know, I learned my lesson with friends along the way, you know, how to determine if your friend is really a friend. You know, Mike, I played against you a long time, good and bad. And we were in the same draft class. And, you know, we're both doing analyst work now. You're doing a fantastic job on Fox, you know, and I'm trying to keep up with you on NFL Network. You've been amazing.

You've been amazing. A lot of energy. Appreciate it. Now, I'm going to take this to address something the elephant in the room because i think it's one um journalistic integrity that i'm learning of talking about it but just steer me in a direction of if i say something that's uh if i misspeak but basically um But basically, around 2006, you know, the FBI and some of that stuff started an investigation about some of the outside activity that was going on outside of your employment with the Atlanta Falcons. And you were basically convicted or I believe got a plea deal with him on dog fighting and all of that stuff and so august 27 2007 you were sentenced and had to serve an 18 month prison term and also

had to do two months of house duress you also had to pay back money to the Atlanta Falcons. I believe a whole bunch of money. None of us got under our mattresses. No, absolutely not. But you also, Mike, Mike Vick is the original highlight reel. Myself

and many other people feared when you had the ball in your hands. When we were standing on the other sideline, I'm like, man, if they let this dude get loose again, we in trouble. I want to ask you, when you went to prison, did Michael Dwayne Vick walk in that prison or was it Michael Vick, the highlight reel? Oh man, that's an amazing question.

Because Michael Vick, the highlight reel, walked into that prison and walked in there feeling like, damn, this shouldn't be me. I had too much money for this. I shouldn't be in this situation. That first couple hours I was in there, every time they came to check on me to make sure that I was good and I wasn't committing suicide, that, you know,

I thought somebody was coming and I locked that door to let me out. You know, and I'm like, because I felt like I didn't deserve to be there. And then over time, you know, as the nights went on and the days was longer and the days hurt, they hurt. You know, you're thinking about, you know, as the nights went on and the days was longer and the days hurt, they hurt. You know, you're thinking about, you know, the outside world. You're thinking about family and watching football and watching you guys, you know, like men of integrity out there doing what they're supposed

to be doing because that's what everybody dreamt of during their entire lives unless they just fell into it, you know. Very, very blessed to be out there on the field in that situation. And I'm one of the, you know, marquee players of the league, and I'm sitting in the prison cell, and I'm like, damn, this shouldn't be me. But as time went on, I realized, like, yeah, this was supposed to be me. It needed to be me because I started thinking about, you know, all the people I did hurt, all the animals I hurt, all the, you know,

things that I did and the decisions I did hurt, all the animals I hurt, all the, you know, things that I did and the decisions I made that could have been better. And I'm like, you didn't make all the right decisions. You know, nobody's perfect, but at the same time, you probably made more bad decisions than you did good. And that's the reason you're in this place right now. So, you know, I looked at that, you know, understood it, you know, I accepted it. And I was like, you know, when I leave out of here, I'm going to come out of here a different person. I'm going to come out of here a man of integrity.

I'm going to respect my family. I'm going to respect, you know, the gang. I'm going to respect the people who try to help me in every facet of my life and want the best for me. And I'm not going to ignore that. I'm going to grow up. I'm not going to be so reserved. And I'm not going to be so, you know, introverted.

I'm going to try to open up. You know, all those things was on my mind. And I felt like, you know, I did it, but I needed that time to get to that point in my life. So the highlight, you know, Michael Vick, the highlight of Real Walkman in Prison, Michael Vick, the man came out. And I'm very appreciative of that in my life. So what did you discover about yourself really being put in that position 23 hours a day? Yeah. I feel like, you know, just losing control, you know, was probably the biggest thing.

I'm like, I have no control of, you know, when I'm going to eat. I have no control of when I got to go to sleep. Or, you know, I'm pretty much on somebody else's time, you know, with a lot of idle time. And I'm like, damn, like, you know, I got to find a way to make this, you know, somewhat, you know, a success story. Like, I got it in me. I know I can do it.

I know the decisions that was made that was wrong. Damn, I should have just did it right. You know, all I started thinking about was a second chance, another opportunity. If I get a chance to do it all again, then I'm going to do it this way. And I know I'm not going to be perfect, but at least I know I'm not going to be around those same people, you know, the same influences.

You know, I'm growing up a little bit, and I wanted to show people more than anything that when I got out, I was more mature. You know, it started with Roger Goodell. He was the last person I looked into his face and lied to, you know, about being involved. So I was able to start with him, break the ice, tell the truth. I was wrong.

He said, look, I'm not here to talk about the past. I'm here to talk about the future. And right then and there, when I heard that, I was just like, okay, that's it. That's it. It's all about the future. And Roger Goodell told me that in our initial conversation, and that changed my life. That made me look at the world different. It made me know that the vision that I had could come true like all the other

visions I had what vision I don't know I got a lot of like a lot of stuff in my mind I was you know I we spent a lot of time bro we we spent a lot of time like uh all my all the staff all the people that's working with us we spend a lot of time just kind of looking at all this stuff about about you and I watched a lot of things myself and and the one thing I kept focusing on it was like you know I don't want this to you to come on here and to rehash something right um that's happened however I don't want people to feel like that we're glancing over or we're giving you trying to tap dance around it.

It's all under control, baby. But also, put myself in your position is I've done some stupid stuff in my life and you know how when you do some stupid stuff, you sitting there and I say stupid because if I'm being 100,

man, Vick, you probably, like, playing against you. I know the stories about you. I know. We're going to get into them stories, Mike. I know, but I'm saying... I'm saying all this stuff about you, like, I watch

you, and when that all went down, you know, being so close here in Charlotte, in Charlotte, trying to mimic the growth of Atlanta. Like we got the information. Like it was like it was happening here. And, bro, like sitting here and just putting myself in that position, I'm going, all the stupid stuff I've done in my life. You know how many times I've gotten in trouble and then you wake up and you,

you wake up with your eyes open and you just kind of that one eye, you go, I hope it's, did I make it through this? I hope it's not real. Yeah. Yeah. And then you realize, damn, no, we still here. Like I just i i really like i really want you to kind of like just take us through that personal journey of sitting in there because a lot of times there's so many people like i read some of the comments people like the youtube stuff that every time you're on there people are like he's not he's not remorseful the man spent 18 months in jail right it don't even if he's not remorseful he's sitting in his in his dirt yeah right now

yeah and i just i personally don't cannot sit there even visiting men in prison, myself, sitting there going, they may not the first week or two weeks of the first month, but this brother has 17 other months to go, ain't nobody getting him out. He's not getting a free pass. I cannot explain the hurt from that stuff. Like, man, this is how much it hurt. It hurt me that it became normal being in there.

It hurt me that it became normal on a Friday night, walking the track, looking out at the rest of the world, cars going by, people going by and saying, man, this is the life that really exists out there and I don't have freedom. You know, and, you know, I just felt like, from the start, when I found out that I was first going to prison, I just kept looking at myself in the mirror like, bro, you're going to prison. You're going to prison.

I know what it's going to be like, or trying to imagine, and, you know, like, you just trying to wake up from it, like, yo, is this really real? And then next thing, you're still living it i'm like damn like this is this is really happening you know and you know just so it's just so sad bro like just so um not have control after having control of my entire life and leading the way you You know, I'm driving the train. I'm steering the train everywhere, in every direction I wanted to go. And then I just, I steered it off the track.

Boom, and now we just, we crashed. We over there, we abandoned. And it's just, damn, like, you know, you just got to pick up the pieces, man. I had to really pick up the pieces and get myself together and, like, lost everything. Lost everybody but my wife.

Everything but my wife. She was still there standing there, standing tall in the end, you know. And even when I was telling her when I came back, like, I'm on the bench right now. I'm the third quarterback, but I just need a shot. She believed in me, you know, but she believed in me as a man and I was going to change, you know. And that's, you know, another thing,

that transformation too, like, she's just been a big inspiration in my life that just helped me change and look at the world differently, understand things and know that she can be just as, you know, reliable and, you know, assertive in her friendship as, you know, as a man, as somebody else that I felt like I needed comfort in. you know, reliable and, you know, assertive. And her friendship is, you know, as a man, as somebody else that I felt like I needed comfort in.

Like, I kind of put that, you know, on us on her now. And we put it on each other and, you know, made us stronger, made me stronger to this day. Did you think she'd leave you? Did you think she'd stay by you? Oh, going through that? Yeah, Steve, going through that? Yeah, Steve, because, you know, I was real foul in my day, man.

I was like, oh, man, you know, no respect. I had no idea what it was like to maintain a real relationship and, you know, to love somebody who truly loved you. You know, I was caught up in that whole spotlight, my big life, you know, the money, the fame. You know, I was caught up in all that, you know, and it took for God to, like, put me in a vulnerable situation where, like, she broke me down where I was like, yo, you know, I'll change it all.

I'll give it all up, you know, just to have you. You know, so I thought because of that, because I went through that with her prior, that when I left, it was like, you made another bonehead decision. You deal with that yourself. Nah, she was there. She was right there when I came home.

Every step of the way, every phone call. Damn, that's true loyalty, you know. That's where I learned loyalty. Like, it can come in a lot of different ways from a lot of different people, and I respect that. So you're basically 20, almost 30 years old, and you're just figuring out what real loyalty is, especially coming from the hood where we think we know what loyalty is

just because of, you know, when you're on the bottom, all you got is your word. Also talk to just naturally, we talk to distrust too, right? So that's already ingrained in you too. So when you have an experience like Mike had and you have these people that fail you, it gets stripped away. But man, thank God your wife was able to stay with you through that entire stretch. And it sounds almost as if she was a motivating factor when you was behind the wall.

Yeah, she was the strength. She was the strength. That first two weeks when I cried every day, like, sit down and say, it's going to be all right. It's going to be all right. You got this. You can do this. I'm like, no, I don't.

I don't. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't. You know, you out there living and breathing as you're supposed to be. And I'm right here dealing with this crap. You know, now I'm blaming everybody. Now I'm pointing the finger at this person, that person.

Now I'm just upset. You know, I'm mad. You know, that key that keeps unlocking that door ain't letting me out. You know, so I'm like, yeah, I'm stuck. You know, I'm in the box right now. You know, but she was just always encouraging me and, you know, making me laugh. And, you know, we talked for hours.

I ran that bill up crazy in there. I had like an $8,000 bill when I left. I was only there for like, I was on the initial prison I went to just as a holding facility when they was just holding me. I stayed there for about maybe like 45 days. So, yeah, I left for like an $8,000 phone bill. And the way the phone was set up was that you could just call back right after.

You talk for 15 minutes and you got to call back. You can call back and talk. I would just keep it on the phone all day, all day. And that's, you know, that was, that bridged the gap and helped me get through that little fire until they took me to Leavenworth. So, and I was relieved when I went to Leavenworth, man. I was, I was at a prison camp. So I wasn't like behind no serious wall, even though when I first pulled up, they pulled me up in front of the Leavenworth prison, the real prison.

And I was like, oh, God, they got me this time. You know, and the guy was like, you know, ease up. You know, you ain't going over there. You're going over here. You know, but I, you know, still was, you know, it was a facility where it was like you can leave it. You know, you can leave it. And so, man, it was just, you know, being in Kansas

and being away from my family, losing that connection, you know, that was tough, man. And then I had three young kids, too. I had my oldest son and then my two daughters. And then my youngest daughter, who is 12 now, her name is London, she was just born and a month old when I turned myself in. So that was a part of the too, a big part of her. Would you have made it if your wife wasn't there to talk to you every day?

No. Honestly, that's another good question because that's something I've never been asked or had a conversation with people where it came out. But, no, I don't think I would have made it if my wife would have left me because basically I would have had nobody. And I was not going to just let any random person come and sit and talk to me about a bunch of nothing. I felt like the only person that I could talk to at the time was her.

And thank God she listened because she used to come visit and we'll spend three days in the visiting room. You only get 24 hours in a month total. You know, we'll spend eight hours a day, three days in a row and just burn it all and sit there and just talk and we'll argue and we'll fight and we'll laugh and joke and cry and kiss each other. And, you know, I needed that strength.

And when I knew she was coming to visit, you know, the week was – she made the time go by faster. I'll say that. And there was nothing physical. It was all mental and emotional. And I respected that part. It was a really cool experience, man. And just dealing with that now, you know, like we're like inseparable.

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That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics, to police violence.

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each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've talked to you, bro, and played against you prior to you going into incarceration. And I've listened to you speak and talk to you outside after incarceration. Bro, if you'd have went into incarceration about three years into your career, bro, you'd still be playing right now.

Wow. I know. Just the way he sees the game, the way he speaks, the way he carries himself. Like I met Vic in a whole – we met each other. We were drafted in the same class. We took – it's funny I knew I was I knew that I felt like I was respected coming out of draft class because

they put you in categories in the combine and in the combine I was it was funny me Vic and Quincy were all at that long table, and it was our rotation for our drug test. Yep. And we also took the wonder lick in there. And let me tell you something, taking a wonder lick with some dudes that know they're going to make it, but also some dudes who didn't really pay attention to school as well.

We were all looking at the test like, I hope you got the answers because I don't know if I got it, right? And so I was in the draft class, and I believe one of the best draft class because you got Drew Brees in that draft class, Michael Vick, Santana Moss, Reggie Wayne, Ladanen. I mean, just

Michael Vick. It's unbelievable, even down to the other guys in that draft class. Right. Dan Morgan. Right. There's so many. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. I remember watching you, bro. And it's like seeing you today, hearing you today. Like it just is remarkable that what you went through for most people would hurt them you grow you grow up just like me we grew up in in in what society will call us at-risk youth being an at-risk youth

you grew up not relying on anybody not depending on and not trusting anybody. However, in the midst of all your trouble and all your, you know, using your word, the foulness that with the way you conducted yourself in your relationship with your better half, right? It sounds like that you actually learned how to really connect and have a transparent and real relational relationship with your wife at the first time, non-physical, and almost a true courtship. Yep. I learned to communicate with her. I learned to communicate with her. I learned to talk to her. I learned to get feelings out of her that I needed, you know,

that I needed and she needed. And, you know, I really wish I had my dad in my life, you know, growing up. Like, because I felt like he would have taught me a lot of things in terms of relationships. You know, he was there, but I didn't see, you know, you learn by example. So I didn't see him being affectionate. I didn't see him talking to my mom or sitting her down or, you know,

arguing or having, you know, maybe a serious argument. But then, you know, it all boils over and then they're back to, you know, they're back to their normal selves. I didn't see that. I seen it in different lands. It was a little rougher. You know, it was more, you know, it was on the abusive side.

I'm keeping it real, you know. So I was like, you know, I had no real concept of what, you know, a relationship was supposed to be like. So I think, you know, just in that time period, she kind of helped me to, you know, learn like what a relationship was supposed to look like. And the best part about it, like you just said, it was just, it was non-physical. And then, so I think that helped, you know, learn, like, what a relationship was supposed to look like. And the best part about it, like you just said, it was non-physical.

And so I think that helped, you know, helped the both of us in a sense. I know every situation is different. So what was the reinstatement process for you like? Because we hear, like, reinstatement. You hear, you know, you hear guys are frustrated with like reinstatement you hear you know you hear uh guys are frustrated with my reinstatement what's the deal you know as if as if the nfl or the institution suspended them because they don't like their outfit that day right yeah you know i want to know really what is the what is the process.

Like, give us detail of, you know, not to get anybody in trouble, but just kind of paint the picture because, I mean, I've been suspended and I had to do the evaluation process. You know, I punched two guys, so I had to go. They flew me. Actually, I think they drove me. They drove me and flew me. I don't know which time but anyway they drew uh one time they drove the other time we flew and i had to do an evaluation

with a counselor and that evaluation stunk because i was fresh off the i don't care boat yeah right i felt justified in my actions and so i had the evaluation it was literally a 10-hour process right and so and they basically came back and I was like, I was sitting in the whole evaluation. Body language, I was slouched down, hat to the side, like, look, I'm just gonna do my time. You just trying to go through the motions, you know, but your step was a lot more tedious. It required a lot more energy and a lot more meetings. Because everybody does think you got to slap on the wrist. You just moved on with your life which we know is not true um because most most of the

places you've been on really don't want to want to really know what you entail they want to know why did you do that what were you thinking but we want to know the process man i don't want to know why that shirt look good on mike vick you You know, I want to know what goes through the whole process of trying to look like a handsome light-skinned brother like myself. No doubt. I got to give you that. I got to give you that. Bro, let me tell you.

Let me tell you, man. It was rigorous. It was a tough process because, first of all, when I was on pre-trial, right before I turned myself in to go to prison, my wife and one of my friends told me, like, you know, don't smoke. I'm like, well, I'm stressed out and I need to smoke. You know, I need to smoke marijuana. I need to – this is what I need to do. They're like, no, don't do it.

I'm like, yo, I'm not going to get tested. Boom, I get tested. Now I'm in the drug program with the league. It strengthens up my probation. Like, everything just, like, got snapped down on me. And so my process was tougher because I was in the drug program, and now I'm getting all these questions about, you know, why did I, you know, smoke marijuana before I even went into prison

and knowing that I was suspended from the league. So I put myself in a vulnerable situation. So my process really started – it started with Roger. Me and Roger met, and, you know, I told you, he was like, look, we're not here to talk about the past. We're here to talk about the future. And then we had conversations and he was like, well, you know, I'm going to send you over to another group to meet with. And it was like a group of like 10 people in a room with myself. And they grill me. They ask me questions from A to Z about my friends, about family,

you know, about money, about dog fighting, the truthfulness and a lot of things that had to come out, you know, that, you know, it was a one sided with the media. But and I hadn't had a chance to sit down and talk with everybody. So I might evaluate the process with what type of help do you really need? And it was, you know, I think they figured out, like, yo, you're really not, you know, a psychopathic person. You're really not crazy.

You know, what happened to you? You know, you could have made better judgment. It could have made better decisions that we think you acknowledge that. And we see your empathy behind what you're saying you're going to do. And, you know, we feel like you really care, you know. So that was probably like a two-month process. And also it was a plan to not have me, you know, start as a, you know,

be a starter when I came back to the league. I couldn't see it that way, but I think just behind it was, you know, we don't know what type of reception you're really going to get you know so it was a lot of like we ready to risk it all for you um we we love you and we respect you as a man and as a football player and we're going to give you a shot and see how it goes and that's all I wanted so you know it was designed for me not to be a starter I think I landed in Philly it It was a blessing. I landed in Philadelphia. And, yeah, so that was it.

So it all happened within, like, maybe like a six-month time span because Tony Dungy came to visit me in prison. He helped start the process and then helped, you know, to just see me, talk to me. A couple of representatives from the Atlanta Falcons came out. Arthur Blank came out. Spoke to Andy Reid on one occasion. So, yeah, I was just kind of like going through, you know,

just that normal, you know, what it takes to get reinstated process. And I'd never been through it before, but, you know, just what I did before made it harder. And then, thank God, Roger made it easy at the end. I became a free agent, you know, at plus, I think, 13 years. And, man, when I was going to free – heading up to free agency, bro, it was like I had 10 teams interested in me. And when I finally hit free agency and the Panthers released me,

man, it went to like four teams, right? Yeah. And I was really – it was really different to be a free agent for myself. It was when I was older, so, you know, I didn't have as many teams. I'm wondering what the – you know, what was the free agency process for you? And then how did you come to the conclusion that Philly was the team? Well, Philly was the only choice. Like, and it was like they didn't make me go to Philly,

but it was like set up to, you know, go learn from Donovan. My agent thought it was Joe Seager at the time, thought it was a great idea to go sit behind Donovan. They already had Kevin Cobb. You can kind of work yourself back into shape. But I'm like, yo, nah, Buffalo needs a quarterback. I think they had Trent Edwards at the time, and

then I think Carson Palmer just parted ways with Cincinnati. Or they needed a backup. He was there for, like, his last season. But I was just looking at those situations, like, those are possible opportunities for me to come back and start and get myself back in shape and come back and show the league that, you know, I'm back and I'm ready.

And, you know, what I realized my first practice in Philadelphia before I talked about how I got signed there, I wasn't ready. My legs was shot. My body wasn't in shape. You know, they took the weights when I was in prison, so I couldn't work out. So, you know, when I went through that process, it was like Philadelphia wants you.

You get to work with Andy Reid. You know, you get to work behind Donovan. You don't have to start. You can just pick a year and get yourself together. And then you get to work with Andy Reid. You know, you get to work behind Donovan. You don't have to start. You can just pick a year and get yourself together. And then it started to make sense to me when it was being explained to me, especially by my agent. And, you know, he's like, you just don't want to go out there and then look like, you know, nothing.

And then, you know, you're getting booed by the fans and they're protesting. And, you know, you turn the city upside down just like that. Just kind of work yourself back into it. I thought that was the right way to go about it as I thought about it. Like I said, I wanted to be mature about my decision making in that process and didn't want to disrespect

Andy Reid at all. I thought he was a great coach from afar anyway working with Donovan. I felt like it was a year that I could just go learn. Play there for a year or be there. learn as much as I can, do my job, and then hopefully go somewhere the next year in free agency. You lost so much control. Yeah.

In your incarceration. And now all of a sudden you have a little bit of opportunity. And now you back trying to control everything, trying to remove God from his plan for you. And as this song goes, instead of taking a wheel, instead of letting the Lord take the wheel, you want to take the wheel back. I wanted the wheel. I wanted the ball in my hands. You know, and then think about it, it had nothing to do with football. I wasn't't playing bad football you know before i left oh i know i remember you wasn't playing bad

ball at all that's an understanding i'm not playing bad ball at all so i'm like i gotta get back and like what was it there was no football to prove now that i think about it it was no football to prove and it's it was a shame that it took this conversation, you know, 11, 12 years later to realize that football wasn't the issue. You know, it was the issue of, you know, what I was returning from and how people felt about it realistically. You know, and that's what it was. You know, that was the fight.

And now I see how, you know, it was navigated to make it a storybook ending. So job well done to Andy and Roger and A's and Joe, you know, and all those guys, you know, who played a major part in it. You know, Tony Dungy, you know, it was all strategic. And, you know, when smart guys get together, you can get some good results usually. So thank God for that. Hey, Mike, you were going to get into the free agency story

with going to the Eagles. But talk a little bit, or would you tell us the relationship you have with Donovan McNabb? I know you talked about how he had an influence with you and, you know, all of that stuff. But you were getting recruited by Syracuse. He was already there. Yeah, yeah.

Donovan was my idol, man. Donovan made me believe that I could play college football and play my style of football. Like, when I was in my senior year, I think he was in his junior year, and, you know, I watched him my freshman, sophomore year. Like, his freshman, sophomore year at Syracuse, and I'm like, yo, man, this dude is a baller. Like, he look like me when I'm in the backyard with my boys.

Like, I got the ball in my hand. Like, he look like me, or I look like him. And I'm like, man, you know what? I'm going to watch him close to see if he go to the NFL and see if the league draft him because they don't take quarterbacks like that. And I think he – I know he can be good if he – you know, if the team believed or if he got a shot. You know, I'm just looking at him from a talent perspective.

So he was like my idol. And then my senior year I took a visit to Syracuse and spent some time with him down there. And he couldn't persuade me to come to Syracuse because I just didn't want to follow somebody else's legacy. I wanted to create my own. But I still, you know, when I went to Virginia Tech, I admired him from afar. I seen that he got drafted.

He gave me hope. And I'm like, man, this dude's the man. You know, so the first three or four years, seeing the NFC Championship games multiple times, and I'm like, man, that style worked. So I just continued to stay a fan of his and once I played two years of college ball and got to the league, Donald was one of the first people

I called to help me make a decision on if I was ready to come to the NFL. And he told me, look, man, if you feel like there's nothing else to prove, then you got to make that jump. So he was influential in that. And then, you know, I always was a fan of his. And even when we had to play against each other and go head to head,

it was, like, fun. You know, and, you know, the times – you know, he's the reason I didn't go to the Super Bowl, you know, a couple years. You know, so, you know, he wouldn't let little bro get one off. He wouldn't let me get the win, but it was cool. And when I went to Philly, it was like, man, I'm going to step in the locker room with, you know, not only a friend, but really somebody that I idolized growing up.

So I get to watch him work and see why he went to the NFC Championship Games and played in the Super Bowl. And maybe the next time around for me, I can take a little bit of that with me. So our relationship was real, real, real unique. And, you know, Don was a great dude, man. He kept me laughing every day. And I just, some days I just couldn't believe I was in the locker room with him.

It was that real. I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather. Cut to it. Cut to it. Let's get down to it. Cut to it. Hey, Gerard, where did you get that t-shirt?

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Did you have to have Precautionary things put in place If so were You know were you Was it voluntary on your part or was it Was it required I was on probation I had a curfew

I was a grown man with a curfew. You know, I had to be in the house about like 10. We had some bull crap happen one day. We got into one day and then, you know, well, not me, but people around me. And then that curfew went to like five o'clock and I couldn't leave Philadelphia one time. Story's untold. But, you know, it still was kind of like, you know, straddling the fence a little bit. I was doing what I needed to do, but still like some of the wrong people was just showing up at inconvenient times.

And little things was happening that was just, I had nothing to do with it. None out of my control. It's just like, it was like what are you doing around this person? Nah, I wasn't around him. He came around me. You know, so a couple of those little issues which led to, you know, a lot of restrictions and then I was on probation. You know, I saw this, seen a probation

officer and a counselor like two to three times a week. Like it was mind-boggling. Like they, you know, I had counselors that came every week, and I couldn't dodge him because that was mandated by the NFL, you know. But he helped me out. That man was there for me. Like, that season I started, 2010, like, he was – he became my best friend,

still one of my great friends to this day, man. And, you know, I got so much respect for him, man. I got so much respect for him. We still talk about the world and what's going on with social injustice now. You know, he's a white man, you know, and he's like 60, 68 years old, but his perspective on life is amazing. You know, I almost kind of look at him as a father figure. So that was one great thing that came out of that whole situation.

It was a lot more, but, you know, I met a guy who, I can say to this day, care about Mike Vickie, man, you know, don't care about football. We, our conversations extended so far outside of football that, you know, it became real personal. And, you know, so, yeah, you know, a lot of restrictions, man, but I worked my way through it i navigated well you just heard part one of michael vick steve when the vick story broke and all this came out and became public what was the reaction reaction from you and players around the league?

No way. Are you serious? No way you didn't believe it? No, no way. Like, nah, he couldn't have been doing this stuff. Gotcha. And as things kind of kept unraveling, you started to see that that was a true rabbit hole,

that they were in all the different stories. And it was unraveling at a rate that was so rapid, it was hard to really process is it true or not. But here's one thing we all know. I don't care where you grew up. I don't care what you're in or not into. When the FBI come knocking on the door. They're not asking.

They ain't doing a wellness check, right? They already have you. That's what they already know. It really is how big of a, how deeper of a hole are you going to dig yourself in? It shocked all of us, and it shocked us even more is the time that he received and what he had to do and what he went through. It was really surreal. And living here in Charlotte, we were getting a lot of information

because it ain't nothing but three hours away. So, as they say, the streets were talking. There was a lot of stories out there that good, bad, or indifferent. I don't really – I didn't really listen to them because, hell, the same stories you could say about a ton of different people right being a football player is no different or being athlete celebrities entertainers no different to anybody else's life the only only difference is you get to see our lives unfold in front of a camera the question is if we followed you around with a camera for 24 hours a day, what would we find?

And people forget that. You know, so before you get your three smooth stones, you know. Get them skeletons out your closet before you try to investigate someone else's. So that was really cool. I hope you enjoy it. But also know there's two parts to this. There's part two coming up. Yes, and there's even more meat on that bone.

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production assistance by Alex Labreck, production manager Sarah Pollock, theme music by Alex Johnson, lyrics and vocals by Anthony Hamilton. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.

Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone.

Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin.

Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. your podcasts. our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between. So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.