The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club Reacts To Kamala-Trump First Presidential Debate

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And we got some special guests with us this morning. We have Angela Rye and Tiffany Cross here. And we're going to talk the debate. So before we get started, what did you guys think about the debate last night? Ooh, I was so happy with Kamala Harris's performance
Starting point is 00:00:27 in part because her non-verbals were on point. Yes. I felt like every time she couldn't verbally respond to him, who I think probably talked over her three to one. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Did not follow the rules. I was super frustrated with the moderators who did not enforce the rules against Donald Trump. And then the moment she tried to tap in the same way. I was mad about that too. That was nuts. So I really didn't like that but I will say I believe Lindsay Davis did a great job. Their questions were substantive. I hated David Muir bringing back up the you said she wasn't black I just thought it
Starting point is 00:01:00 wasn't the right stage for that. Yeah I noticed that this morning during Front Page News when Morgan was playing some of the audio you were getting frustrated at that time you upset yeah and i think part of it is this every time that we bring up donald trump i think that we have an obligation to say what is fact versus fiction and i just want to be very careful that just because he talked more just because when he's at the bully pulpit he says a lot of things it doesn't make it so so i think we have an obligation it's very dangerous i'm someone who's been on the other end of a death threat, right, because of Donald Trump. So you've got to fact-check that stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's not okay to just play it and let people think whatever they may. You have a responsibility. Republicans were saying it was a three-verse one. What did you guys feel about that? No, I mean, Republicans are going to come out and say anything. He has such a low bar. And I just, because it was brought up, I just want to do a little fact checking about the eating dogs comment.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It was an incredibly racist comment by Senator J.D. Vance and also inaccurate. The Haitian population has been an influx of the Haitian population in Springfield. They actually breathe life back into that very sleepy town. They revitalize the economy there. They are not here illegally. They're not in Springfield illegally. They're here under something called TPS, Temporary Protected Status, because of the earthquake
Starting point is 00:02:07 that happened in Haiti and all kind of political turmoil. Sac passe to all the Haitians out there because the country of Haiti is so important. It was the only country that led a revolt. They said, we will not be colonized. And I think it just means something so much to black people. So to insinuate
Starting point is 00:02:23 something completely false and racist and it traffics in tropes about the haitian population i thought it was disgusting and i didn't even think the moderators did a great fact check there back to vice president but it was great to hear him say on the stage last night because he sounded insane we wanted him to say yes and i we were kind of disagreeing about that because she was like no let her talk and i was was like, you know what? Every time he opens his mouth, it helps her. But it is very American to have this incredibly accomplished woman on stage on equal footing to this half-assed, half-witted, asinine man who got not one, not two, but three baby mamas, who is an indicted criminal, an unnamed co-conspirator in a crime. Right. So it just looked disproportionate.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You know, he looked incredibly small and beneath her. The sad fact is we've always known that. And 75 million Americans voted for him. And I don't think he moved anybody from his base last night because there are a great group of people who would rather see this country burn to the ground than to see a black woman run it. It was a clear choice last night. It was great to not, Angela, I'd also disagree
Starting point is 00:03:32 on the audience. I'm happy there's no audience there. This is your chance to give your platform presented to the American people and let the American people make an intelligent choice. I don't want to hear cheers, cheers, anything like that. So I felt like right that would have benefited trump exactly i don't think so absolutely i don't think so i think
Starting point is 00:03:51 that i think that we misunderstand how much kamala harris also feeds off of audience energy you see some of that at the rallies i it was i think it was fine like i thought it was going to be more um before the debate we talked about it on our podcast, Native Land Pod by the way. But what I feel is that she zoned in. She talked right to the American people. It really was of no consequence as she demonstrated the difference between what a leader is and what a faux leader
Starting point is 00:04:15 looks like. Anything you would have done different if you were her? Sorry. I was going to ask one question. The fact that he did not have a plan ready and he's been... He has a concept of a plan. Leave him alone. What did you guys think about that where Kamala Harris said not have a plan ready and he's been he has a concept leave him alone what did you guys think about that where you know kamala harris said she had a plan and he says i have a concept of a plan he does have a plan he tries to distance himself from project 2025 but the fact of the matter is hundreds of his staffers work on it hundreds of his staffers drafted it and he is closely affiliated with these are people he still talks to on a
Starting point is 00:04:45 regular basis he only distanced himself after it was unearthed after people in the media started talking about it but trust me if if his staff is writing it he's guiding their hand so he has a plan and also he has a record to stand on i thought kamala harris did a vice president harris did a great job of laying that out last night of of detailing the things that he did during his four years in the administration. That is also part of the reason, just to echo Angela's point, when we present facts and information as journalists, you have to in real time fact check everything this man says. Because the sad reality, people are not reading the papers anymore. People are not consuming news and information. So many people are getting their news from TikTok and Instagram.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And I would just beg everybody have some intellectual curiosity. She put her policy platform up on her website. You can read it. You can go to her website and see it. You can also Google it from reputable news sources and look at it and see how it impacts you and what it does for you and not hear things that are disproportionately in his favor. I think the news media is begging him to get back in office. He spoke about Project 2025 last night the way he did Charlottesville, because he said that there's probably some good. I've never read it, but there's probably some good things in there and there's probably some bad things in there.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, he did. And that's the thing, too, that I think we all have to remember. I wish that she would have hit him. I told Tiff and Andrew this last night on the show that I wish that she would have hit him when he said, I have a concept of a plan to say, oh, no, you have a plan. It's called Project 2025. And put that right at his feet. I think him taking time to say her and she and never looking at her, never saying Kamala Harris, never saying Vice President Harris
Starting point is 00:06:17 or Madam Vice President was very telling, and I think that was probably the only thing that he won out of his debate prep to dehumanize her, and I think he went above and only thing that he won out of his debate prep to dehumanize her. And I think he went above and beyond to do just that yesterday. What about the very beginning when she walked on stage? She looked very presidential. She did. She looked very, I'm going to come shake your hand.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And he looked like he was running. Give it run up or done up. It was on site. What was your thoughts on that? She looked like to give me a hug first. Well, if you remember back when he was on stage with Hillary Clinton, he was was incredibly inappropriate he was invading her space he was walking behind her i think it was great that she commanded the stage she showed she's an adult one of the things we talked about last night is she is not only on that debate stage speaking to him the moderators are the
Starting point is 00:06:57 american people she is on a global stage speaking to other world leaders and so she has to present herself like an adult in the face of a petulant child and i thought going out there think let's have a good debate and going back to her stage he was afraid to approach her he was afraid to look at her i think he has a fear of black women and i've talked about him because he's talked about how attractive she looked on the cover of time magazine he said oh i thought she was younger turns out she's 60 we age a little different as black women as he'll find out um he just invoked a war with every AKA across the town
Starting point is 00:07:27 talking about she was at a sorority party. So I thought that she made herself look extremely presidential and he looked fearful and small. Let's take a call when we come back. 800-585-1051 if you have questions for Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross, they are here. Let's discuss. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa's filling in for Jess, and we have Angela Rye and Tiffany Cross here. And a lot of people on the line want to talk about the debate, so let's go to the phone calls. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yo, this is Robbie, man, from Columbus, Ohio. Robbie from Ohio. What's your question, brother? My question is, I want to know what is the process of the debate. Like, how do they get these people together to sit down and have these conversations like this, where in my opinion very little of what they're going to do for the country is spoken of. It's more of like a going
Starting point is 00:08:29 back and forth, pit-pat battle type of deal. I do agree with that. I kind of agree with that. I think Kamala spoke to the future. I think that she did talk about an immigration and border security plan. She talked about her plan to codify Roe versus Wade
Starting point is 00:08:50 and how important it is to strengthen the protections in Roe versus Wade. Opportunity economy. Trade. She did talk about opportunity economy. She talked about her small business agenda and the importance of small businesses to the fabric of this country. Home ownership. Home ownership.
Starting point is 00:09:02 She talked about home ownership. She even gave numbers. She gave a lot of numbers. She gave a detailed policy plan. And this goes back to our point, right, about running those Donald Trump clips. Yes, that too. Donald Trump clips. When you run those clips, you don't hear substance.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You hear a rambling elder. And that's not who Kamala Harris should be judged by because that's not what she spoke to. So I actually think it's very different. What you don't have in a debate is the ability to force someone to answer the question as asked. He was asked substantive questions. He chose to wallow in the shallow, which that's all he can do. And to answer your question, there's a debate commission that works with both candidates.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You have to reach a certain stature or numbers as a candidate to participate, 15%. And they work with both candidates, and they agree on the rules, and they also both agree on the network to air it. We have Eric on the line. Eric, good morning. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Peace, Eric.
Starting point is 00:09:58 What's your question? My question, well, are y'all going to have a real conversation about the debate last night? I think we have one now. What's up, Eric? What you got to say? No, what I mean by that, I know most of everybody on the air is a common supporter, but I watched the debate and I felt that they both had their moment. I didn't see Donald Trump laying nothing last night. What was Donald Trump's moment?
Starting point is 00:10:27 What moment? What do you mean? What moment? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Can you back up? Can you back up from the phone a little bit? See? What's his moment?
Starting point is 00:10:35 What do you mean, what was his moment? I'm asking. What was the moment? What did he lay in you? You just said he had a moment. What was his moment? What did you like that Donald Trump said, bro? When he was in office,
Starting point is 00:10:47 was there a war in Ukraine? No. All right. He was telling the truth on that. What? There was no war in Ukraine because Putin had not tried to annex Crimea at that point. That has nothing to do with the president of the United States. That's why. Trump said he always wanted to go in the president of the United States. Trump was saying that's why.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Trump said he always wanted to go in Ukraine, but he knew better because he was in office. So you're suggesting that Putin bowed down to Trump? No, I'm not saying he bowed down, but there wasn't a war, though. When Biden came in, there was a war.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So are you suggesting that the war is Biden's fault? No, he's just saying that. No, that's not what I'm saying. He's saying the world perceives us as weak because of Biden and because of Harris, and that's why they decided to go into Ukraine. Is that what he said? Trump, Trump, Trump. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Okay, what are you saying? I'm trying to get to the point that Donald Trump had a moment, specifically. At the debate, too. Yeah. Go ahead, bro. He had his moments because some of the stuff that he did, he was telling the truth. Like what specifically? What policy specifically did he benefit from you? Nah, we try to give you a platform to say something, but you don't seem like you know what you're talking about, brother.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You letting Magga down, Eric. They definitely let Magga down. Hello, who's this? This is Chelsea. Hey, Chelsea, good. They definitely magging down. Hello, who's this? This is Chelsea. Hey, Chelsea, good morning. Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Charlemagne. Good morning, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Good morning. Tiffany Croft and Angela are out here, too. It's okay. It's okay. Go ahead, Chelsea. I was just calling after listening to the debate last night and watching it. And seeing Trump say that women are getting abortions in the ninth, tenth month after they have a child,
Starting point is 00:12:29 asking the doctor to kill it. As a mother myself and a woman, I was just insulted. That's understandable. You should be insulted. And I hope you take that insult to the ballot box to show just how insulted you are. Bring some of your friends, too. For sure, I will. For sure.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I think they said the vice president raised $6 million within the last hour of the debate, and 71% of the donors were women or something like that. I thought I read that. So in closing, how did you feel about the debate? What do you think could have been better? What do you think that Kamala Harris could have did better? What did you want to see more of?
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'm somebody that believes in getting in someone's head. And Donald Trump has shown what you can get in his head about. The size of his rallies and talking. So there were a couple moments where he was like, quiet please. And when he said quiet please, we couldn't hear her. But he could hear her. So I wish that she would have spoke
Starting point is 00:13:19 a lot more when he was saying like, you're lying. You know you're lying. Just to get in his head. But I think she really had a flawless performance. Again, I would have liked to see the moderators enforce the rules a little more fairly he was saying, like, you're lying, you know you're lying, just to get in his head. But I think she really had a flawless performance. Again, I would have liked to see the moderators enforce the rules a little more fairly. And for him to shut up. But that's a tall order. Tiffany? I would have liked the debate moderators to enforce the rules a lot more strongly than they did.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I would have liked her to get some more zingers in. I think there were times where, there were good times where she was telling a narrative, which I thought in. I think there were times where there were good times where she was telling a narrative, which I thought was great, but there were times where he would say something and she could just right off the top, you know, say something. I think, Angela and I talk about this, I keep a bullet in the chamber, so I'm always ready to go with some slick-ass, like, insulting comment.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And every time she was saying something I wanted to just jump in and say something smart because, like I said, or like Angela said, I would throw him off his game. But overall, she did a great job of presenting to the American people. And there was times like when he said that, you know, y'all did nothing for student loan debt. I was like, why didn't she just correct him?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Why didn't she just say, no, we gave this amount of billions. She probably had so much to correct him on. It was like, I got to correct him on everything. There was one time when they asked about policy and she had to go back to it. Some of that shouldn't have been her job. The moderator. They only fact-checked him, I think, three times. Yeah, it was the abortion.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And I want to ask y'all, too, how do y'all think cable news should be handling it? Because I think everybody on cable news should be talking about how Donald Trump just might be retarded today. No, don't. First of all, you're not supposed to say that word. I can't say that word.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You can say that about Trump. I promise you. You can not say that. I promise you. Find another word. What they should be saying is that this is someone who has a treacherous relationship with the truth
Starting point is 00:14:47 and he demonstrated that by the fact treacherous relationship with the truth is far better than what you just said that's cause his list he can't say
Starting point is 00:14:53 say treacherous relationship you say it say treacherous relationship with the truth and what did y'all feel about what she kept saying I have a plan like I have a plan
Starting point is 00:15:01 I have a plan people were going at that as well last night when she said she has a plan no I guess when she. People were going at that as well last night. When she said she had a plan? No, I guess what she was saying in the speech, they were saying it was reminiscent of I have a dream, I have a plan. Did y'all hear it?
Starting point is 00:15:11 I didn't even make that. No, what she did say is we're not going back. And she invited people in to participate with her. So for the folks who said they did not know Kamala Harris yet, there was a poll that said 48%. I think folks got to see a different side of her, and I thought it was a good one. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:28 All right, well, thank you guys for joining us. And make sure you subscribe to the Native Land Podcast. Native Land Pod. You should know that. Or the Native Land Pod with Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum on Reason Choice Media. I heart. Wake that ass up.
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