The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club Reacts To Trump's Assassination Attempt

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

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Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning everybody it's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Gav we are The Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us

we'll open up the phone lines 800-585-1051 we're talking about everything that went on this weekend the assassination, the rhetoric. Some people believe that it was staged. It definitely wasn't staged. And there's no need for us to keep saying that. Like I said during Donkey of the Day, we shouldn't be saying that this is staged.

We need to be talking about how this is very real. And, you know, political violence is very real. And what happened to Donald Trump is very real. And we can't fix the problem if we don't acknowledge the truth. And the truth is, you know, the type of dangerous rhetoric that has been spewed, you know, by by by President Donald Trump, you know, and and and MAGA is what leads to these kind of this type of political violence. And it's actually very disingenuous. You know, that's why I gave, you know, House Speaker Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance donkey of the day. It's disingenuous to say things like,

you know, it's the rhetoric of Democrats and people calling, you know, Donald Trump a threat to democracy that led to something

like this and everyone needs to tone down their rhetoric. No, the only person that needs to tone down their rhetoric

is President Donald Trump, which is probably why he's changing his speech, you know, at the Republican National Convention, you know, this Tuesday.

You cannot honestly have a conversation about dangerous rhetoric that leads to political violence without discussing the dangerous rhetoric that has come out of President Donald Trump's mouth in his social media. Yeah, there's so much to discuss. And we're going to open up the phone lines 800-585-1051. I just think it's crazy that, you know, violence can erupt over who you want to vote for. Growing up as a kid, we never talked about politics as far as who we voted for. We talked about politics and we listened to both sides.

But it was one of those things where you went into that box and you voted and you kept it to yourself. But now it seems like it's at a point right now, regardless of what side you are, people feel a way about it. If you decide to vote Biden, people are mad. If you decide to vote Trump, people are mad and not just decide to vote Trump, people are mad. And not just mad, because we should be able to vote for who we want to vote for. We should be voting for our best interests. But people are, they want to kill you depending on who you're voting for, which

seems crazy to me. They want to cancel you for who you're voting for, which seems crazy to me. We need to get back to a point where we can have conversations, and it ain't a violent conversation. You know what I mean? One thing that I've seen online that I kind of was like, hmm, that makes sense. We look at the Secret Service with all the Secret Service security guards that they had out there yesterday.

This young man, 20 years old, who was pretty much a novice. Right. He was he wasn't militarily trained. He he was in a gun club. He was 20 years old, got up on that roof. People were pointing him out, still was able to take shots at the president. Now, would y'all feel comfortable? The fact that Secret Service, who's a trained organization, they should be knowing what they're looking for and doing all of that to protect the president. Would you feel comfortable with teachers carrying guns that don't have the same training to be looking for the same thing? Would y'all feel comfortable with that? The reason I don't like that, I've heard people say that. The reality of the situation is

Secret Service got that dude out of here within seconds. He shouldn't have even been able to do that, though. Yeah, but my point is, if a kid, if somebody comes in the classroom with a gun, and I don't even know why we're having this conversation, but if somebody comes in the classroom with a gun, and they shoot, right, and somebody takes them out

immediately, that's what you would want yeah but secret service is supposed to avoid the problem they're like that that's what the scan was the scan is supposed to be when they come out with the snipers and everything they're supposed to be scanning stuff right and you would understand if it's a militia somebody trained but this was a 20 year old kid that climbed on the roof that people see like people point them out so with that said the teachers shouldn't be the first line of defense they should have something at the school security that stops people from coming into the school.

I'm with you a thousand percent. So that's what their job is to do. You scan a whole area, make sure nobody gets in here with nothing. Correct. And if you do get in here with something and you try to do something, then now the second line of defense is the Secret Service. I mean, that's what I don't know. I didn't understand the comparison between the Secret Service and the teachers in the classroom.

That sounded strange to me. I didn't get that. And not from you. I just saw people saying that and I was like, I don't understand the correlation you're trying to make here. Well, let's go to the phone lines. A lot of people on the line. Hello. What's your name? E and D. All right, brother. What's your thoughts? You know, Brother Charlemagne, King Charlemagne just spoke so eloquently. I can't even follow that. He said exactly what I was going to say. What I'm going to say is Brother Malcolm said it back to the days,

chickens come home to roost, and life is real simple. You live by the golden rule. Anything you put out is energy that you return. It's really that simple. You speak into existence the power of the tongue. We take it back to hip-hop terms. You got a label called Bad Boy Records. Look what happened to the bad boy.

You got a label called Death Row Records. Look what happened to Death Row. You got a label called Cash Money Records. You got Lil Wayne, Dickie, and Drake. Speak into existence. That's it. Okay. Thank you, brother.

Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, how's it going? What's your name? Can you hear me? Luis, I'm from Florida. Hey, what's your thoughts, Luis? I just thought the question was in general

over the entire environment and wherever we are, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I personally think that I blame a lot of this on the media, right? Because I think rather than informing us and helping us make decisions and telling us the facts, they're riling everybody up to each other's eyes and it seems like that's where they're making their money, right? So then you have people that watch either Fox or CNN or MSNBC and when they turn off the TV, they're more in reach than they were.

So rather than just being informed about something and getting into the facts, they're actually more emotional when they started watching whatever it was, right? Because we have people that either, I guess we're each in our own team, right? And the people that are in the middle that are just trying to be informed really have nowhere to go, right? Other than, like, shows like you guys, right? That, like, you know, how it is, or, like, you may

add your opinion to it, and at the end of the day, you all forgive the facts, right? And then it's like, it will let you make your choice. So I think that once you end of the day, you also get the facts, right? And then the director will let you make your choice. So I think that once you turn off the TV and you actually start talking to people, most people will agree

at the table. But a lot of what's going on, I think, is on the media's hands because they actually route you up to one side or the other, right?

And I have a lot of friends that have actually hit up and come and race by just listening to whatever output the media is putting on people. So you want to hear more, you think we need more balanced discussions, more sides need to be talking with each other and not at each other is what you're saying?

Yeah, 100%. In terms of the media itself, I turn to the media to be informed, right? I don't want to really hear too much of your opinion. Just tell me what the facts are and I'll make up my mind. But I don't think that we have too much of that, except for a few places where you have a balanced conversation where if you have a panel, yeah, you have someone that leans left,

then you also have someone that leans right, right? And then I can get both sides of the story versus just getting your side and it being just completely anti-left or anti-right. Okay. Got you. Well, thank you. 800-585-1051. We're just opening up the phone lines.

Hearing from you guys, I mean, this weekend was a crazy weekend. Let's discuss. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Shalom and the guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we're talking about everything that happened this weekend. Now, Jess, what were your thoughts when you seen everything that and how it unfolded this weekend? To be honest with you, I really, this goes back to what Charlamagne said. I thought it was staged myself. You thought it was staged at first? I honestly did. I mean, nobody moved. It's a couple reasons. Nobody moved for real. He didn't react like he had just got shot at. It was like he wasn't even trying to get off the stage.

They had to get him out of there. The people behind him just wasn't phased for a while. It's funny that you said that. My dad is a retired police officer. So when I called him, I'm like, isn't it strange that gunshots went off and they didn't scatter? They didn't run? Right.

People did, though. Not behind them. They didn't scatter. You're talking about the stage view of it. You're looking at a certain group of people. There was mad people running and covering each other. That's how the guy got shot and killed. The guy got shot and killed because he covered his family. But on the stage, he just, like, the way he scattered.

Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people.

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and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It seemed like when you first seen it, I'm like, nobody moved. Yeah, and then like you said, we live in a time where you don't believe anything because every time we do believe something comes out as natural most of the time, it's not true.

It's AI, right? Yeah, and then also this is also like nothing surprises me that happens to donald trump or donald trump does because of how he moves who he is like he can use this he's already using it but he's using it like he i don't know he'll do anything to win the election yeah another reason i I'm saying? Another reason I never thought it was staged because immediately I saw everybody pull their phones out. That's what I knew.

I was like, you know. But also, I just don't think that we should run around. I get why you felt that way, but this was very real, you know? And this is what happens when you have people in positions of power spreading the kind of dangerous rhetoric

that Donald Trump has been spreading. Political violence is really real. And this is, it can get worse. And that's Trump has been spreading. Political violence is really real. And this is, this is, this is, it can get worse. And that's what I'm saying. I didn't find out about the person that actually died until late, late last night. Like you didn't hear that. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't hear that. And I, I didn't, that's why I'm quiet right now until you just asked me how I felt. Cause I don't want to start parading that, saying that, because this is a huge platform. You don't want to say, oh, it's stage to stage, because that is crazy, but look at the times that we live in. Most things are not real anymore.

Most things are staged, but when I'm asked, yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, the only reason I mean, I do think Donald Trump will go that far to win an election, but that's pretty, like, a bullet to your head. He don't got to go that far to win an election, but that's, that's pretty like a bullet to your head. You don't gotta, you don't gotta go that far to beat Joe Biden.

Yeah. You know, he's probably gonna, he's gonna probably be, he probably was going to beat Joe Biden before Saturday. I think he beats Joe Biden definitely Saturday. And he got the Supreme court in his back pocket, you know?

So I don't, I, yeah, I don't think he would go this far. Loretta. Yay. What's up? What's happening?

Loretta, Loretta, take us off. go this far. Loretta. Hey, what's up? What's happening? Good morning. Loretta, Loretta, take us off Bluetooth for speaker if you can. Okay, I am. How about now? You sound better. Go ahead. What's your thoughts, mama? I'm sorry.

Stage. I don't care what nobody says. Trump. Get in power. Loretta, Loretta, your phone sounds crazy. Your phone breaking up. It sounds like you said you thought it was staged and Trump will do anything to get in power. Yes.

Everything to get in power and to make this look like kill him. Yes. Her phone sounds a little crazy. Sorry, Loretta. Jamisha. This is me. Hey, Jamisha.

Good morning. What's your thoughts? Good morning. I just want to say, you know, there's no place for violence in this country. And, you know, God rest the soul that we lost. But I will have to say that I feel like it is a distraction. I feel like Project 2025 was really picking up steam within the black community. And this is just something to distract us. And at the end of the

day, God forbid, I just want all black people to make sure that they're registered to vote, go vote, and then go learn how to shoot a gun and protect yourself. Get your kids out there because it's real. It is a real situation. And although we can go on black Twitter and laugh and joke on different things, this is serious. That's right. Somebody tried to kill this man. And at the end of the day, black people, we really have to open our eyes and stop laughing at everything. Don't be on social media on a platform if you have thousands of followers being black talking about, oh, he's gangster. I'm about to vote for him now. That's ignorant. Stop being ignorant because people's lives is on the line on this

ballot. Our rights is on the line on these ballots. Women's rights is on the lines. It's serious and we have to take it serious and i just want black people vote please vote thank you i'm not telling you who to vote for but vote and i'm you know she brings up a good point you know um they keep calling this an assassination attempt yeah it was an assassination attempt but it also was a declaration of war you know what i mean like whenever you whenever you decide to take a shot at a former president, somebody who is a leader of a whole other side, 70 plus million people on this planet,

don't you think that his soldiers, don't you think that his minions, you think they just gonna take that lightly? That's why it's so irresponsible for people like Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance and whoever else to just run out there immediately and say, this is the Democrats' fault. Yo, we had Russia said this is Biden and them.D. Vance and whoever else to just run out there immediately and say this is the Democrats' fault. Yo, we had Russia said this is Biden and them's fault.

Like, why are they interfering with U.S. business, just trying to cause division? Can't we see what's going on here, people? No. Come on, man. People can't. And that's the sad part about it. All right, well, what's the moral of the story if there is a moral?

The moral of the story for me is what I said during, you know, Donkey of the Day. We are all big boys and big girls we can condemn political violence we can condemn what happened to donald trump on saturday we we need to condemn it but we but we also have to talk about the dangerous rhetoric that donald trump has spewed that got us here you should be able to do both it is disingenuous for house speaker mike johnson to go out there and say everyone should tone down the rhetoric. No, there's only one person who should because there's only been one person that's been doing it.

It is irresponsible for J.D. Vance to go out there and say it's rhetoric from the Democrats that led this to happen to Trump. It's very disingenuous to say that and not acknowledge the rhetoric that Donald Trump has spewed on his social media and out of his own mouth. No, what's really scary is what you said and what people have been saying all weekend long, that they believe that Biden has no chance of beating Donald Trump. That's what's really scary. Because when people start talking like that and people start believing it, that means people feel like they don't have to go out and vote. They feel like they can sit out on the couch and just sit this one out because they feel like they lost already. No, I think everybody should go out there and vote.

And we can't do that. One of the main reasons I think it's going to be very tough for President Biden is because of how Donald Trump has the Supreme Court in his back pocket. Because Donald Trump put three Supreme Court judges on and the whole Supreme Court is doing his bidding. Everything from, he asked for immunity from crimes and he got it. There is nothing constitutional about that. So that lets me know that if he contests the results of the election in November, what reason would I have to believe that the Supreme Court would decide with him?

Yeah. But, you know, I was reading something to that. You know, they said he'll never go to jail. And one of the other main reasons is not the fact that not only because he's a former president, but also because they said the amount of money they would have to pay for Secret Service to actually be in jail to protect him would be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And they weren't definitely going to do that. I don't know. I just want everybody to go out there and read the article from Elie Mistel that he wrote in The Nation talking about the Supreme Court, because the Supreme Court is the only branch of government that claims the power to rule unchecked by the other branches of government. If Congress passes a law, the court claims authority to overrule it if the president issues an order or regulation the court claims the power to overrule it if a state legislator

or governor passes a rule or ordinance the court claims the power to overrule it and if voters attempt to elect leaders the court claims the authority to overrule them by literally picking whose votes should be counted or recounted to say nothing of who gets to vote in the first place. Does it not sound like this fight going to be fixed come November? Yeah. So y'all, we in for a long six months, baby. I'm just telling y'all to get prepared for what you're about to see. Okay?

Okay. All right. Jess? Blasphemy. I'm talking about the rumors. Oh. We got Jess with the best coming up. Yes, Lil Wayne sings

Not Like Us right before he performs his verse of the motto in Vegas. Yeah, but people, I think it's some trolling, but we gonna get into it. I don't know. I don't think he would do that to his nephew like that. Alright, we'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up.

In the morning the breakfast club hey what's up this is ramses job and i go by the name q war and we'd like you to join us each week for our show civic cypher that's right we discuss social issues especially those that affect black and brown people but in a way that informs and empowers all people we discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other.

So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.