The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Courtney B. Vance, Dr. Umar Johnson, Topic Time and More)

Episode Date: January 6, 2023

Today, we flash back to when Courtney B. Vance stopped by the show to talk about "61st Street", Lovecraft Country, The Oscars, acting royalty and more.  We also look back at the interview with Dr. Um...ar Johnson where he discusses Deion Sanders, TJ Holmes, Interracial Relationships and the Snow Bunny Crisis.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,
Starting point is 00:00:46 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-S-T-A-N on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:02:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning, USA! but we're not. Well, we are not. We're here in spirit. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to be playing some of our top interviews and some throwbacks.
Starting point is 00:03:07 So, keep it locked. Red is going to be running the boards. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. So you better have
Starting point is 00:03:17 the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Well, man, it is a lot of it. What's up, man? A lot of it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 A lot of it. Damn. Like the fort? Don't start, Charlotte, man. What? Like, man? What's up? Damn. Like the Fort? Don't start, Charlotte, man. What? Like the Fort? Like Fort Lauderdale? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Okay, okay. This game's your second home. There you go. What's going on, brother? All right, check this out. Just a little short one. That grinder. I love my people.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm for my people. But that right there, I wouldn't have made that move. You know, but who am I to say? It's politics, but... But let's be for real. If that was you in the same situation as Brittany Griner, you would have wanted them to make that move. There you go. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But it's the truth, though. Yeah, that is the truth, but the thing is, we're making a political move. No, we're not making nothing. They're making a political move. No, we're not making nothing. They're making a political move. Russia and America made a political move. Yeah, but what difference would it make with her coming out? What does it help us as a people? That's not helping us.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Because she smoked a marijuana pen and we're letting her out? What does that benefit us as a black people? I will say this. I think it's a lot to learn from this situation. And what I will say that I saw was, you know, people galvanized for a cause. You know, people bought attention to something that needed to be that people bought attention to something
Starting point is 00:04:32 that probably would have been ignored if they hadn't, you know, put a magnifying glass on it. And I'll tell you something else, even in the case of Paul Whelan, bruh, nobody would be talking about Paul Whelan if it wasn't for the Brittany Griner situation. True. You know what I mean? You got a good point. Yeah, the Brittany Griner situation. True. You know what I mean? You got a good point.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. You got a great point, though. You know, I just hope that everybody, as a people, we start to open our eyes and look at, as a unit, we're better than what we could be with the whole system. I agree. Yeah, I just hope this opened our eyes up, man. Y'all have a good one on the team. I salute everybody who was pushing to get Brittany Griner home from the inside and the outside.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You know what I mean? It was a big ground game that had a lot of conversation around her. The whole We Are BG campaign. They brought attention to it. I'm not mad at it. Hello, who's this? DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. It's OG Rob.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Good morning, OG Rob. What's happening, King? Ain't nothing, man. Blessed to be here. You know what I'm saying? Life is good. How y'all brothers feeling this morning? Bless Black and Holly favor, King? Ain't nothing, man. Blessed to be here. You know what I'm saying? Life is good. How y'all brothers feeling this morning, man? Bless Black and Holly favorite, King.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Good, brother. You got some balls for us? You already know, but listen, real quick, you already know. I just want to send y'all some positive energy, man, and big blessings moving forward with the show. I know y'all implementing a few new things and co-hosts and all that. Just want to let y'all know, man, I'm riding with y'all, man, you know? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So listen, listen, listen. It's bar time, man. Let's go bar time. We got to do this the right way, man. Set this off, man. I say yo. Freestyle Friday, let's go. All right, you heard many styles before,
Starting point is 00:06:00 but this is Brooklyn in its rarest form, letting it be known what I'm here for. Too many want to be emcees in that dope spot, time to eliminate, increasing my odds off every shot, I was born with it, true student, I keep a pen and pad, so when they hand check they get crossed out, and I'm off the glass, gotta keep spittin' in post, I feel a buzz comin', kids said I see you out here workin', I ain't frontin', double back on them, to make sure that the job done, sittin' on that next block waitin' Outside the steakhouse, I caught shots that made me a boss
Starting point is 00:06:29 Watchin' them laid out, they say it's simple math till you do it You gotta figure it out, that's why I'm steady buildin' So numbers secure the money route, I'm serious, it's not for play Check out my melody, each verse is like a body of peace For my third felony, could put me on a wall somewhere Attica, same thing Case closed, locking it down Watch what this money bring
Starting point is 00:06:49 Bad style, haul through my veins I'm just what Brooklyn is Cruisin' through your city It's tour time like the circle line In the zone, can't be stopped Screaming city is mine OG Woo, I got some bars, OG
Starting point is 00:07:01 Let's go, baby I'm feeling a little underweather Cause my coworker here, man, he doing me dirty. So I'm going to sing a little bit, all right? Okay, okay. Let's go. Let's go. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:07:11 What do you do when your coworker's untrue? What? Do you cut the sucker off and find someone new? I need another coworker. What? In my life. Uh-huh. Let me do.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Remember when you said you would die for me? What's wrong with you, bro? Charlamagne, it was just lies to me. You got a problem. Should've never said bye to me. Now you cry for me like Jodeci. It's like that, y'all. Charlamagne trap from the back, y'all. That's why your son think you gay, bro. Black, nasty, and mad fat, y'all. I am not black, nasty, or mad fat.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Should've seen that hoe. Pack your bag. You out the dough. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I guess it's my turn, huh? Gotta go now. I'm everlasting. I can go on for days and days with rhyme displays.
Starting point is 00:07:53 We here on our last day. I can take a phrase that's rarely heard. Flip it like Envy flips birds. By birds, I mean penis. Yeah, meanness, penis. What? Well, hey, well, you know how we do, man. Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Listen, the Cyphers, man, it's classic. We're going to move the Cyphers forward, man. Listen, man, I appreciate y'all, man. Y'all already know what it is. Y'all enjoy the vacation, man. Spend time with the family. It's always a blessing, man. And y'all catch me on that IG,
Starting point is 00:08:25 OG Rob 300, and y'all enjoy, brothers. Alright, OG Rob. Peace, OG Rob. Get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Local Morning. Okay, so hey, y'all. I just want to say, hey, Charlamagne, hey, DJ Envy, I love y'all. I miss y'all every morning, right? So, I miss ye,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but I wanted to know, like, are y'all gonna have, like, a different hostall going to have like a different host to replace Yee? I don't feel like she can be replaced, but I feel like maybe every week y'all can have
Starting point is 00:08:50 like a celebrity host that hosts with y'all that week. Or is it just something you and Charlotte like from now on? Ma'am, ma'am,
Starting point is 00:08:57 you said you listen to us every morning. If you listen to us every morning, then you would have heard us say exactly that, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You're right. Well, you know, I go to work and when I go to work, I can't listen to y'all because when I'm on the floor, you know, I download it. I heard radio,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but sometimes we don't get service on the floor. Well, you're right. Angel E is irreplaceable. So, yes, starting in January, we will have rotating guest hosts. You know, some people will be your favorite celebrities. Some will be your favorite podcasters. Some will be your favorite influencers, comedians, all your favorite influences comedians all types of stuff yes yes okay okay and do y'all miss me i wanted to know
Starting point is 00:09:30 that too no um yes y'all do don't even act like y'all don't miss me y'all have y'all been there y'all know y'all miss me y'all probably miss her after the first day but thank y'all so much just for being on air i love love love the breakfast club y'all have a just for being on air. I love, love, love The Breakfast Club. Y'all have a great day. We love you back, mama. Well, get it off your chest. The Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves.
Starting point is 00:10:24 What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!
Starting point is 00:10:36 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude,
Starting point is 00:12:34 and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new podcast i've been working on with the story pirates and john glickman called historical records it's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids
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Starting point is 00:15:05 And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want to help. Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. you listen to podcasts. energy you know I'm a little tired okay coming from the the west coast but my wife told me to get your energy up boy come on come on and she tell you that you got to get up that's right when you hear for a 61st Street a new series that's right on AMC is April 10th at 10 p.m. what is that about a story of community it's a story of a situation.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Hopefully, it never happens to us where you're going around, going about your life, and all of a sudden, some incident happens and you're caught in the system. You get wrongly accused of killing a police officer. You are wrongly accused. And what do you do? What does the family do? How does it affect relationships? I made a decision that this young man, Mr. Moses, he was a great young man in the community and everybody knows he's he's clean. He's going to college. So I knew in my mind, if anything ever happened to him, he's not going down.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So I have to make a decision basically between my son, who's autistic, and my wife and him. Because with him, it's the community. As he goes, goes the community. So my wife and I are at odds over it. My health is an issue with a prostate cancer issue. So there's so many conflicting issues that it's one of those situations where based on it the whole community has to decide which way we're going to go. Can we talk about that a little bit more because I always say art
Starting point is 00:17:11 imitates life. What does it mean when they say as a person goes the whole community goes because I always hear things like oh he just sent us back a hundred steps what does that mean? It means that there's certain people like if something uh if we heard about something about obama and michelle the whole community would be rocked by it and the whole community has to make decisions based on whatever
Starting point is 00:17:37 we feel um i mean we had a situation recently the whole community the whole world now has to make a decision about the way they feel about what happened. About what happened, where you fall on it. O.J. was a situation like that where everyone has to make a decision which side of the fence you come down on. Really? I was too young to really experience the O.J. But you saw the series. You saw us do O.J.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, but I was just rooting. I honestly was just rooting for a black man to get off. But then the O.D.O.C. guy, I'm like, well, what if he really did it? But that's just it. That's what people, white folks don't understand, the root. So that's the discussion that needs to happen about why is it that we were rooting? Yeah. And then you need to go, you start to go back in terms of, do you have any idea what we as a people suffer on a daily basis just getting on the elevator?
Starting point is 00:18:35 That's right. That's right. And you see people clutching their purses just a little, you know, going into restaurants, going in and not being served. And you sometimes you get even too sensitive about, you know, about whatever you feel that you've some, you know, and that's what you saw unfold on that stage. He felt disrespected. And so based on that, what do you do at that point? He's something in him said not today. Yeah. But is that right today? Today? Today?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I mean, and all of us now are going to have to, you know, come down on whatever side. You know, everyone's going to, they may shut him down. Right. So, I mean, that's what this Project 61st is about. That I have to, I've made a decision that I'm not going, they're not getting him. And based on that, let the chips fall where they may. My wife and I, if we have to fall out, we've fallen out. Now, I know my son is autistic, and I promised you I'm coming home to take care of him, and you're going into politics, but I cannot do that now.
Starting point is 00:19:38 We're going to have to find some sort of middle ground in order to, maybe the village has to help us take care of him, but we got to take care of this boy. You know we have to take care of him. In 61st Creed, it's like, that's like an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. So I've got to stand up for this. I've got to stand up. If not me, who? If not now, when? And that's what we're,
Starting point is 00:19:57 we see. And it's not a black and white thing. It's a, it's a people thing. It's a humanity thing. There's going to be time. If you live long enough, it's going to happen to you. It's going to happen. You's going to be time. If you live long enough, it's going to happen to you. You're going to end up in the health field that you've got to try to navigate. You're going to end up in the criminal justice area you've got to try to navigate. So you have to, you know, it's about watching this and going, what if it was me? That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I want to ask, when you talked about Chris and Will Smith in the situation, right? Well, first of all, what were your thoughts? And now that we understand, right, we talk about the mental thing and where his mind was, where Chris's mind was. I think it's a mental health conversation. Now it almost feels like now they're trying to make that his stain, right? All the things that Will did right, right? And all the stuff that he's given back and he's helped the community and he did so much. That one thing that he did, they're trying to make that that his life that's all it takes is one for a black person
Starting point is 00:20:48 now the question is what's the pivot how does he react to this how does he bring it back to the discussion about all the things that i've done and it's going to take a minute i pray for him you know denzel was right there he said at the moment of your highest, you know, honor, at the moment of your greatest triumph, there's a devil waiting for you. In life, there's a line that if you cross it, the consequences are severe. He's crossed it. You know, the right thing to do may be just to go, look, look, I made a mistake. I'll take whatever I have to take. You let me know what I need to do, and we're going to ride it out and get to the other side of it, and I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That's right. It's going to be interesting to see how he deals with this situation because he's got to deal with it. Based on how he reacts, we react. All right, we got more with Courtney B. Vance when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club My wife. A hundred percent. Agreed that she didn't win the Oscar for What's Love Got to Do With You.
Starting point is 00:22:05 She's going to get hers. And when it happens, it'll be even bigger. Meryl Streep, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Denzel, Ajinu. People don't know that she's as big as she is, that she's towering. I don't want to name any more names. That's enough. A lot of people can play a violin. A lot of people play a cello.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But there's only a few Yo-Yo Ma's. There's only a few Angela Bassett's. There's only a few Robert De Niro's. And when Robert is in a film, we know when we go in, oh, it's going to be. And that's when the craft of it, everybody can look at the same material. But some people have the gift. And I just acknowledge that. You know, Itzhak Perlman has the gift.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Kathleen Battle has the gift. You know, you'd look at what she went through at the Met. Divas are divas all over the world. But would they be banned from the Met was a white diva, would that same thing have happened to that white diva? I'm not even familiar with what happened. You'll do some research and find out. We're about to see what happens with Will for, quote unquote, diva behavior. And Will, the society, will deal with it. We'll get past it. There'll be something else that comes up you know george floyd happened you know and and all of them for me is is
Starting point is 00:23:51 about you know which is what you know like our series is about is this going to be the thing that allows us to talk about it or will like all the rest of we end up going back into our camps white people go back over here black people go back over here. Black people go back over here. At what point do we, whatever incident happens where we go, man, we got to work this thing out. It's costing too much money. It's costing too many lives.
Starting point is 00:24:16 We got to work this thing out. I know what the conversation is in regards to the police, but I was like, and we talk about the Oscar situation, what's the conversation? Because to me, the conversation amongst us is, boy, we are broken people, right?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Conversation amongst the white folks. I don't care. You ain't gonna sit here. I don't want to hear you talk to me about will being violent. Go check your ancestors. Do you know what I mean? So what is the conversation? I would say,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I would say the conversation is we are all broke people. We all need to deal with ourselves in our situation we all need to sit down a little bit on somebody's couch and talk it through and we all have a part to play in how he got up on why he got up on that stage in this era of celebrity you know celebrities quote-un, get passes. We have to look at that. We have to look at, you know, I always say, you know, Michael Jackson, you know, I loved him. We loved him.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But we all were part of him, you know, not having a childhood because we wanted to see little Michael up there. Nobody knows what he went through to become Michael Jackson. You know, nobody knows the pain Prince was in nobody knows the pain luther was in nobody knows the pain whitney was in nobody cares just get up there and sing girl you know we all have a part to play in the celebrity sweepstakes and angie and i we're you know, we still got to live our lives. And no, we're not going to the Oscars when we ain't got no reason to be at the Oscars. You know, we got a reason to be there. Y'all both got a reason to be there if y'all want to be.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Right. But, you know, we're not going to pay to be at the Oscars to be seen. We have 16 year olds. They're the most important things in our lives. We're the most important. Each other are the most important things in our lives. Not the business. And based on that, we go. We appreciate you for joining us. Mr. Courtney B. Vance. Yes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It was a pleasure, man. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Y'all make a brother think. We went deep on this one. That's what you here for, to give out that free jewelry. That's right. That's what you here for, to give out that free jewelry. That's right. That's what you here for. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:27:03 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. I'm the main guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, into the discussion with the breakfast club let's talk about it morning everybody it's dj envy element the guy we are the breakfast club now if you're just joining us uh we're talking about a vasectomy vasectomies that's right ladies and gentlemen yesterday i gave donkey today to chad with more he's the editor-in-chief of a platform called outspoken and he was on fox news he was actually on tucker carlson's show tucker carlson wasn't there uh i forgot what's his brother's name shauna he's not a brother but sean uh sean definitely i think his name is was filling in but he was talking crazy about vasectomies can we listen okay i mean is this an act of love or is
Starting point is 00:27:35 this really just about consequence-free sex i mean why stop with the vasectomy i think it just lobbed the whole thing off and become trans that's what you should do if you really love your wife and want to show her what a supporter of womanhood you are and of the female cause. And I hope that these men get, you know, a free box set of Harry Potter when they go in for their snip and some soylent and whatever else they like to do with their free time. Fine, if that's what you want to do, go for it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 But it does make you less of a man. I'm sorry. So he says if I get a vasectomy i need to get a harry potter dvd after that's one of the things he said he said it makes you less of a man and he said you know if you're going to get snipped you might as well just you know go ahead and have the whole surgery and cut your whole pp off and become trans and you know the reason this hit me is because you know that has been a conversation i've been going on in my house for for some months you know my wife wants me to get a vasectomy you know we got four daughters you know our last
Starting point is 00:28:29 daughter was born in september she's three months old now so it's like she's tired of having kids i don't know if y'all realize it or not i've never experienced it but i've been there for all of them pregnancy hurts right it's not the most pleasant experience you know for women and at a certain point they get tired of it and the way my wife explained it to me made perfect sense she was like why do i gotta go get my tubes tied i didn't lay down four different times had a baby you know had a c-section before it's like why do i gotta continue to get poked and prodded i'm like you're 100 correct i didn't even ask my wife i told my wife i continue to get poked and prodded i'm like you're 100% correct i didn't even ask my wife i told my wife i didn't say go get no i said i'm gonna get my
Starting point is 00:29:09 tubes tied i i don't know the procedure oh you told her you're gonna get your tubes out well you know a vasectomy okay okay okay i'm getting snipped in whatever it is but yes uh like like i said i'm horrible at pulling out uh i shoot the club up a lot i i'm not gonna wear a condom so what am i not going to have sex? No, I'm going to tie my tubes. If not, I'll have 22 kids. I hear what Chadwick Morris saying. I love my wife.
Starting point is 00:29:33 This is not a political choice. It's a marital choice. I have no problem going to get my cable cut off. Yeah, I called Cromartie, Antonio Cromartie, of course, ex-Jet. He didn't answer his phone this morning. He's probably watching one of his kids. Probably kids kept him up late last night. But, you know, he's had it and he had three kids after it. He's not a good example. Antonio Camardi is an anomaly. He's got super sperm. His sperm is different than all of us. Okay. God has a plan for him and his sperm. That's not, that's not my route. I don't
Starting point is 00:29:57 even want to know his doctor. Don't even recommend who he went to. But yes, I don't have a problem with vasectomies. And I really want to talk to people this morning. I want to talk to guys who've gotten vasectomies. And, you know, I just want to know what they think of Chadwick Morris' comments. Okay. All right. Well, let's go to the phone lines. Hello.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Who's this? Jared. Hey, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Now, you got a vasectomy, bro? Yes, sir. Oh, word?
Starting point is 00:30:21 How old were you when you got it? Actually, my current age, 31. Oh, wow. Tell us the story. Well, what's How old were you when you got it? Actually, my current age, 31. Oh, wow. Tell us the story. What's the back story? What made you get it? So I had three kids. My wife and I, we had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:30:33 We wanted to have our kids, you know, early. I didn't want to be old. My dad was 55 when I was born. So I was like, I didn't want to be super old, have kids. And all three of my kids were C-sections. So my wife went through a lot with our three kids. So I was like, hey. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:52 No, them C-sections were good. My wife had to have a C-section with our second daughter. She didn't for our third and fourth, thanks to, you know, Dulé, Schrodinger, Latham, Thomas, Luther, Latham, Thomas. But, yeah, man, those C-sections is rough. Those surgeries is rough so why put your wife through having to get her tubes tied you know having to get poked and prodded so what's the procedure brother tell us what happens man do you feel it how long is the surgery what
Starting point is 00:31:14 tell us um so you're actually awake you actually see them uh do the whole procedure it's outpatient surgery it literally takes about 15 minutes really So it's like a circumcision almost. Less painful than a circumcision. There actually is no blood. They give you like a, I want to say almost like if somebody thumbtruck your **** almost to numb it. And then they cut your urethra. Wow. So the doctor rubs your **** and then he, what?
Starting point is 00:31:45 That sounds like a good time. He just cuts your cable off? Yeah. He cuts it and then cauterizes it. So you can actually see them kind of like burn it a little bit. And so then that's it. Do you feel like less of a man? No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Okay. So wait a minute. So the doctor rubs your testicles. He cuts it. And then you got to put ice on it, right? No, you don't put ice on it. They give you like a jock strap just to kind of keep you all together so that way you don't feel minimal soreness.
Starting point is 00:32:15 You go home, lay down. After that, the next day, you up and moving around. Now, does it impact your ejaculation? That was the thing I was thinking about. I know you all juice no seeds, but does it make the orgasm for you feel different? No. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And how long do you have to wait until you guys have sex? They say wait about seven to six days. I would say it depends on the person, but yeah, I would definitely wait. Roughly about five to seven days. And that's before you ejaculate on anything? On anything. So that means that seventh day that's before you ejaculate on anything. That's any, on anything. So that means that seventh day,
Starting point is 00:32:47 boy, you shoot up the whole house. Have you, but listen, have you had sex since the surgery? Oh yeah, definitely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'm just making, I just want to make sure. So it, so it shoots out the same way. It don't sputter. Let's just, what? Huh?
Starting point is 00:33:01 What? I didn't want to know if it's sputtering. Okay. Thank you, sir. You've asked enough questions. Let's go to another one. These are questions I have. I want to know do you want to know if it's spotted? Okay, thank you, sir. You've asked enough questions. Let's go to another one. Why do you want to know?
Starting point is 00:33:07 These are questions I have. I want to know. I want to know. 800-585-1051. We're talking vasectomy. Charlemagne, he's thinking about getting one. I'm not thinking about it. I'm definitely getting one.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm getting one, too. That's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're been paying attention. I see that you got the building. Yes, sir. You've been doing renovations on the building. I saw you put the HVAC in, all kind of other stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We're just about done. I'm hoping by the end of the calendar year, we can get our inspection and have a grand opening in February, hopefully. Man, why don't you talk about that more, Dr. Umar,
Starting point is 00:33:57 especially being that they tried to clown you for so long about, you know, not having a school. I don't mind that because if you know that your mission is genuine, it's no need to respond to the negativity because at some day,
Starting point is 00:34:11 the fruit of your works will manifest. Ooh. You follow. So my thing is, why argue when you know one day they're going to see the school? Now talk about the process because it was a long process.
Starting point is 00:34:22 It was a very long process. Trials and tribulations and hurdles. Yes, sir. Talk about that a little bit and what you. Trials and tribulations and hurdles. Yes, sir. Talk about that a little bit and what you had to get through and also getting funding. Yes, sir. We took our first donation in St. Louis 2014. We heard about the St. Paul's College, which was an HBCU closed in Virginia. They wanted $2 million, so we tried to raise it as quickly as we can.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That was a bit ambitious. We didn't succeed. It was sold to an asian company unfortunately and hbcu sold to another race i think it's a great disappointment for us as a people so then we just started looking for a day school and then in 2017 i was on loop net and i saw this campus in wilmington delaware but they wanted two million dollars we couldn't afford that we only had a half of a million so i negotiated with them from august of 17 until february of 19 and they finally decided to sell us the building for the money that we had wow so
Starting point is 00:35:12 now we got the building so what's been going on the past three and a half years getting contractors who you can trust to help you with it and contractors were not kind to us man they ripped us off they scammed us. They stole out the building. The con is real. The con and contractor. I've been dealing with it for the last five years. It's very real, brother.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Absolutely. And then finally, I said, you know what? We may have to step outside the African-American community to get this done. Because we've been waiting three years for our people to help us. Not for free. We could afford to pay them. But they wasn't being honest with us and straight up. And the white contractors have gotten us to the finish line in three months versus three years waiting on our own people.
Starting point is 00:35:53 What is the curriculum going to look like? In addition to your required math, science, language, and social studies, we're going to have financial and economic science. Critical. How to do your own taxes. Real estate. International investments. Business planning. We have dietary and and nutritional how to eat to live a lot of your dr savey type of information agricultural and agronomical we're going to teach them how to grow they have to grow their own food
Starting point is 00:36:17 in order to graduate in addition to that spiritual and astrological science i want our young men to understand how afric African people related to God before Abraham, before Jesus, before Muhammad. There will also be science of the black family. So that includes science that a black man, a black woman, the black child, how to be a gentleman, how to take care of your woman, how to raise your children, how to be a leader in the community. And of course, there will be military and political science. If I didn't mention that we do want to teach them survival skills, traditional African martial arts, both with and without weapons, understanding the world that we live in. Why is Africa the richest continent, but in a poorest condition? Why was Barack Obama made president and it had nothing to do with America reinventing herself? Okay, why has multiculturalism been used as a weapon against african people so we want to make sure that we are graduating well-rounded young men who can go anywhere in the world and build
Starting point is 00:37:11 independent communities we are a nation building academy we are not college prep we are not military prep we are not trade school prep they will be ready for any of those but above all that we are nation building can you answer answer that President Obama question? I'd like to know the answer to that. Barack Obama was made president for two reasons. Domestically, he was made president to force alternative sexual lifestyles onto black children, sexual confusion as a means of population control. And internationally, he was made president to go to Africa and to force AFRricom there to build military bases all throughout the continent and guess what there's been about six coups in africa over the past year and every single
Starting point is 00:37:50 coup was in a country with a united states military base no coincidence america only practices democracy when the person who wins the election has an agenda that is in the interest of america but you know obama was opposed to same-sex marriage in 08. Oh, when he ran. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the power structure told him you're going to support this when you get in there. That was the second term. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Okay. Because the agenda had not yet been set. But when the agenda was set, he had to carry it out because Obama belonged to a white racist political party. Let me ask you a question. The students that want to attend your school. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:38:23 What are the qualifications if there are any? Be black. There's really no qualifications. So be black. So it doesn't matter if you're gay or straight. It doesn't matter if you're mixed or anything. Well, a mixed African is considered an African. We accept you as an African as long as you identify.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You have to be psychologically black and you also have to be biologically black. Now, with that being said, it's important that black men and black women even if they be mixed race africans they understand that we will not perpetuate that mistake because it does not benefit the black community so although you may have a white parent you will only produce children with someone who looks like you can we please talk about jerry jones yes we can You recently posted a picture of... What? They tried to slander our brother over here. Talk to me. About what? Over the summer, I guess there was a video of you, I guess, from the Cheerio mall.
Starting point is 00:39:13 They tried to say you had jungle fever, Dr. Umbach. Jungle fever in the mall. Okay, let me tell you what happened. I thought we talked to him about that already. Somebody tried to hack my phone. I call iPhone. They say, okay, we have an appointment for you. I said, I'm him about that already. Somebody tried to hack my phone. I call iPhone. They say, okay, we have an appointment for you. I said, I'm in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Apple. Closest place, Cherry Hill Mall, Apple Store. No problem. I ain't got no phone. I need my phone. I go to Cherry Hill Mall. That's the whitest apple of all apples. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:39:37 So I go to Cherry Hill Mall. They working on my phone. It's taking forever for my appointment to come up. I said, let me find something to do. I go get me some suits go back get the phone fixed i'm on my way out the mall i'm done i see a stand in the middle with incense oils crystals i'm in all that i said okay this must be a sister let me go over here i'm looking through the incense young white lady come around she said can i help you i said
Starting point is 00:40:00 this your stand because i'm like you know because this was black people's stuff. You know what I mean? So I'm like, she said, yes, it's my stand. She had a little foreign accent. I said, no problem. So I buy some incense. A brother stops by. Can I take a picture? Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I get a rock. Sister come by. Can I take a picture? The white girl started looking at me like, who are you? Like, why is everybody stopping and asking you for a picture? I said, I'm Dr. Umar. I'm a psychologist. She pulls out her phone.
Starting point is 00:40:23 She said, well, let me see where you are. I said, go to YouTube. Type in Umar Johnson Breakfast Club. That's exactly what I took. That's Dr. Umar. I'm a psychologist. She pulls out her phone. She said, well, let me see where you are. I said, go to YouTube, type in Umar Johnson Breakfast Club. That's exactly what I said. That's exactly what I said. So she pulls out her phone. She goes to Umar Johnson Breakfast Club. She said, that is you.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Some coons at a nearby restaurant are filming the whole thing. But when they post it, they don't post the prelude to the conversation. If they would have showed everybody stopping, they would have knew she must have been curious about who it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They cut that off. And they just showed me with her phone like I'm giving her my number. Can I get your number, baby? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All I was doing was confirming that that's who I am.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Don't you know they went up there and interviewed her? No. That girl got interviewed all week. The people that recorded you? Negroes from YouTube ran to the Cherry Hill Mall and got a sat down with the Snow Bunny. Oh, you one of Dr. Umar's wives is what they were trying to figure out. Look, and she told the truth, though. And I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:41:13 She said all he did was shop. I wanted to know who he was. Everybody was stopping to talk to him. He told me to pull out, go to YouTube Breakfast Club. And he was just confirmed. That was it. I picked up my bag and walked off. They didn't even show me walk off.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't think you realize how funny it is. That's like a Dr. Umar trap. We're going to set up the incense in the rocks. But when he go over there, snow bunny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It was crazy. But I'm glad she was honest because she could have. She could have. Yeah, absolutely. She could have said he tried to get at me. You know what I mean? I think people think you hate white people. You don't hate white people.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I have conversations with white folks all the time arabs chinese east indian i had a group of white boys run up to me at the airport i was in dallas texas can we take a picture i took the picture why do i do that people say why you take pictures when white folks stop you because it's important for the world to know that my agenda is not hate my agenda is african liberation i'm opposed to white supremacy i'm not opposed to white people my priority is my own people but i have nothing against yours i'm unapologetically african but the problem is historically any black man who is unapologetically african malcolm the honorable marcus garvey stokely carmichael hughie p newton anybody who is that way we will
Starting point is 00:42:22 automatically brand it as anti-everybody else. That is not true. We are Africans. We are the original humanitarians of the planet Earth. We have never been against another people, but I'm unapologetically committed to my own. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Dr. Umar Johnson when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:42:52 There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves.
Starting point is 00:43:10 What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once
Starting point is 00:44:06 we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:45:02 For self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace, have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it.
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Starting point is 00:48:09 Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with dr umar johnson now we got to talk about ema yudoka and tj holmes first of all what they did was wrong you had no business having relations with another man's wife if in fact those women were married but it's even more wrong because you chose to go outside your community and do it it's even more wrong because you chose to go into the white power structure and do it they were not chastised because they committed adultery they were chastised because they failed to keep in mind that black men get the white women that other white men genuinely do not want. Look at most of our celebrities. They did not marry women who came from the richest white families.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Black money and white money don't behave the same. New black money and old white money have two totally different personalities. New black money will jump on any poor white girl and make her a billionaire, Tiger Woods. Rich white money doesn't operate that way you see the sin of ime udoka and the sin of tj holmes is you had an affair with a white man's wife this is a desirable white woman somebody loves her and is married to her and you had the audacity to take away from her husband being a negro that's why they had to be sat down and if i could speak with ime udoka i would have to ask him on top of all that you chose a woman from the mormon church the mormons
Starting point is 00:49:31 historically one of the most racist denominations of the christian religion with tj holmes i think that they about to demonize him in a real way like they even already put out a story that he was having multiple affairs they're going to get him yeah you are not allowed to touch the white women that white men have claimed or considered to be marriage worthy you get the leftovers our athletes our celebrities they all got leftovers they do not get top of the crop white girls so top of the crop white women is well married financial status or just women that are married bloodline okay it could also be financial as well, but white men determine who those women are. And it's normally a mix of income, status, and bloodline, as well as occupation. I want to ask you something, Dr. Dumont, for you, have you ever seen an interracial
Starting point is 00:50:15 relationship that was acceptable to you? No interracial relationship is acceptable because we have too many black women who are unmarried. Black women are the largest population on the planet earth. If you can't find one in America, get it from africa if you can't get it from africa go to the caribbean go to canada go to europe why would a black man need to copulate build a family with anything other than a black woman when you have so many black women available it is an exercise in self-hatred there's no way to get around it you think kanye west if he had a black woman things would be different oh absolutely i think kim kardashian used him and the fact that they're making that man pay two hundred thousand dollars a month in child support when both he and the wife are billionaires are absolutely
Starting point is 00:50:54 ridiculous i think they want to break him and although i don't agree with the way in which kanye articulated some of his thoughts i appreciate the fact that he was the first black man since Michael Jackson to speak truth to power, to specifically identify certain communities of Europeans who have exploited gangster rap, black entertainers and other people since its inception. And nobody has called them out. I can't give Kanye no respect because I've never seen a black man seek more white validation than Kanye. Well, that's the issue. That is the issue. Kanye is not choosing a side. One day it's about saving our people the next day you want to date
Starting point is 00:51:31 with another snow bunny one day it's about helping the oppressed the next day you're campaigning for donald trump one day it's about being independent the next day i'm hearing about you going into business with some white man make up your mind and. And at this point, I'm going to be honest with you. Although I appreciate Kanye's honesty, I think most of his agenda is about Kanye. And I'm going to say that because when I look at our black billionaire class, whether it's Kanye, whether it's Oprah, whether it's Jay-Z, whether it's Tyler Perry, even if he's no longer in that class, none them lebron puffy none of them have built an independent black institution for the black community anywhere in this country not one how many lashes would kanye get i'm still working on kanye lash count because i want to see where he ends up yeah i need him to make up his mind and then stay there okay and i need him to be a little bit more articulate but what he says because although i think kanye is on the right track he's not articulating himself well enough he's not controlling his public narrative and i would
Starting point is 00:52:29 not put him on the same level as a kairi irving because i believe kairi is 100 genuine in his thinking i think he's very thought out and i think kairi does a good job of controlling his narrative and i think that community that tried to destroy him could be accused of being hypocritical because Amazon is not pulling a DVD. They have not been accused of being anti-Semitic. They have not been accused of being racist. They have not been accused of being a hate monger of any other people. So Kyrie can be accused of all that for sharing a video that he was not in.
Starting point is 00:53:02 How is it that Amazon gets none of the smoke when they said they're not going to pull the smoke we have jonathan black was up jonathan green black was here okay yesterday and i asked him that same question what he said look we've launched a whole campaign against amazon we announced on monday we're working with the german government because holocaust denialism and that movie is offensive in part because it says that white Jews invented the Holocaust. That it didn't really happen. That's not true. But Holocaust denialism is illegal in Germany.
Starting point is 00:53:31 That movie is available on Amazon Germany. So we are not working with the German government because Amazon is breaking the law. But where is the media campaign by them to crucify Amazon the way they crucify Kyrie for sharing the video that Amazon is making millions of dollars on? I will say that's hypocritical.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I will say this, Dr. Umar. I feel like sometimes we can't be selective moralists. But I think sometimes we, as in black people on social media, make these stories bigger. Because if we wanted like the Brett Favre situation, Amazon, if we talked about those situations like we talk about other things, we would create those campaigns. But the white media made Kanye's, excuse me, Kyrie's situation
Starting point is 00:54:13 an issue. So if you're going to make it an issue for Kyrie, white media, make it an issue for Amazon, white media. I mean, the white media did report on it when the ADL report was... It didn't get the same report. It didn't get the same energy. It did not get the same energy. It's a double standard.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I think that's because of what we talk about. I really didn't do it that way. Anybody who practices selective morality, whether you're a European Jew, whether you're a revolutionary Pan-Africanist, whether you're a socialist, a Christian, a Muslim, a Hebrew, selective morality is hypocrisy. Amazon is still selling it. They have yet to be branded by the ADL or anybody else's anti-Semitic. That's hypocrisy. That's one of the questions I asked Jonathan Greenblatt. I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:54 it feels like when we do something, there's consequences for it. So I asked him, how do you punish that level of white privilege? How do you punish it, Donald Trump? They're not going to punish it because at the end of the day, white supremacy requires commitment and loyalty from all groups of white people the kairi and kanye issue was more about suppressing free speech for heterosexual black males than it was about anti-semitism or anything like that i'm not against any of that you said the only thing i
Starting point is 00:55:22 push back on is man i do not like seeing people prop up kanye west bro because kanye west is the most anti-black negro out here and i do not like when people just why do you say that why do you say he's so anti-black look at him look at who he chooses to be with and even when he had those billion dollar companies what was under the hood of those companies dr umar where was his black staff i agree where was his black leadership i agree agree. And that's why right now, as I just said a minute ago, I believe Kanye's agenda is what's best for Kanye. I really believe he did what he
Starting point is 00:55:51 did to get freed of them contracts because he has the brand and the platform and the status now where he could probably make his own sneakers and make his own music and probably sell as much, if not more than he did before. I don't believe that, Dr. Moon. I believe so. You're giving that man way too much credit.
Starting point is 00:56:05 No, I believe so. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Dr. Umar Johnson when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's EJ and the Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:56:16 We're still kicking it with Dr. Umar Johnson. Now, we got to talk Charlamagne's favorite NFL team, the Cowboys and Jerry Jones. It's the same Jerry Jones who never hired a black coach. Same Jerry Jones during the Colin Kaepernick protests of 2016 said, if any of my players are caught, quote unquote, disrespecting the American flag by taking a knee, they not going to play on my team no more. This is that Jerry Jones who never stood up against any of the racism in the
Starting point is 00:56:42 state of Texas. And he gets caught in the picture. September the 9th, 1957 little rock high school and then he commits three lies he was part of a mob to deny a group of african-americans entry into north little rock high school he says he was just there to be curious he says neither he nor any of the other white boys or people there knew what they were going to get into that's lie number one jerry jones had already admitted that his coach told him not to go nowhere near that there would be trouble there and then when he was asked whether he regretted being there he never answered the question where is roger goodell why isn't he being given a list of demands
Starting point is 00:57:19 just like kairi was given being given a list of demands and check this out to make matters worse guess what else happened on september 9th 1957 dj envy what's that president dwight d eisenhower signs the 1957 civil rights bill creating the uh civil rights commission within the department of justice first act of civil rights legislation since 1875 jerry jones and the rest of them kids they knew that they were there to repudiate that presidential signing. Jerry Jones knew exactly what he was going to get into. Now, Stephen A. Smith says he don't deserve to be held accountable for his part in supporting one of the most racist events in American history, which was the desegregation of America's schools. He shouldn't be held accountable. Stephen A. says since this happened 65 years ago, he should get a pass.
Starting point is 00:58:09 How many lashes was Stephen A. Smith? Stephen A. is probably up to 150,000 lashes right now for his Conan but listen if Jerry Jones get a pass because he's 14 why didn't Emmett Till get a pass he was 14 why are we protecting privileged white men and you know what makes it so sad Jerry Jones don't even have to defend himself he got black men who will jump up did you see michael irvin this uncle remus michael irvin says oh he wasn't at the front of the line so because he wasn't at the front of the line he less racist than the ones who's at the front jerry jones is a righteous man and a great man all white people were that way back in the day this michael irvin all white people were that way back in the day so we supposed to get jerry j a path. There's nothing worse. How many lashes for Michael Irvin? Michael Irvin get about 5,000 lashes for that.
Starting point is 00:58:47 No black man should ever volunteer himself, Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin, to play defense attorney for a white man. Jerry Jones ain't thinking about black folks. He has yet to speak up on social justice issues. He is a racist and he should be forced to sell the team. But it's not going to happen. Why? Because it would take the players of the nfl to protest to force him out and we already see that our nfl athletes and our nba athletes don't have enough courage they're more concerned with money than they are about the movement and that's why i'm disappointed in deon sanders talk to me
Starting point is 00:59:19 about deon dr umar before you get into it you know charlemagne gave donkey today to people that were criticizing i know that's right and i'm coming right at it let's go let's go i'm coming right at it let's go he's wrong but i have two levels of wrong i got a low level and i got a high i'll explain them to you quickly my low level if dion told the administration and the players at jackson state that i'm taking this job but I need y'all to know if something better comes along, I may be leaving. He did say that. He said that.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I didn't see that. I played the clip the other day. He said it on 60 Minutes. What happens when Power 5 School says, give us a number, we'll make it work? I'm going to have to entertain it.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You are? Yes, I'm going to have to entertain it. Straight up. Why would I be a fool not to? Deion has always been transparent and open about what his goals were i disagree with you he told them if it comes his way he would have to entertain it he never said i would leave you that soon i'm going to go back and study some more but from
Starting point is 01:00:15 what i've seen him say he was not that direct but if he was if he was he's still wrong but it's a low level because at least she was transparent and you gave him informed consent. Still wrong. Now, if he didn't tell them that, and I'm hearing from people who know athletes on that team that they were not told it that way, that automatically means that Deion Sanders used, abused, and exploited HBCU Jackson State just to be given an opportunity to show predominantly white institutions that he could coach. The reason I'm so personally disappointed in Deion is I thought he was there for a movement, not for money.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Meaning Deion Sanders, the coach of Jackson State. I foresaw a situation where Deion would hire other coaches, other retired black NFL greats to coach other HBCUs. In doing so, you attract our top-tier high school athletes to come to HBCU. Stay with me. Eddie George is at Tennessee State. Stay with me. Stay with me. Football and basketball.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You know like I know, if you got top-tier NFL greats coaching HBCUs, the athletes are coming just like they was coming for Deion. He showed you, Charlamagne. That's Deion, though. He showed you. That's Deion. And his other one's just as great. Deion's one of. Dr. Umar. And his other one's just as great. Deion's one of the most famous people ever.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And his other one's just as great. So listen. Eddie George at Tennessee State. That's one person. We talking about a system, not an individual. So Deion and these other coaches bring all these athletes from high school to play football, basketball, so forth. The revenue of the HBCU goes up, Envy.
Starting point is 01:01:40 As a result of the revenue going up, Charlamagne, the school's got more money. They don't have to subject themselves to closure. they don't have to subject themselves to being dependent on white money you got hbcus at risk of being closed i read something that said almost a half of them may not survive the decade so this was bigger than football this was about the survival of the hbcu especially no no no we stop trying to you're blaming an individual no no. Stop trying to get celebrities a pass, Charlamagne. No, you're blaming an individual instead of talking about the issue. I'm blaming black men for not being men, brother. Are HBCUs chronically underfunded?
Starting point is 01:02:14 Of course. Were they chronically underfunded before Dion? Yes. Would they be chronically underfunded after Dion? Yes. Absolutely. What are those reasons that they're chronically underfunded? Because we as black men have not come together to create the funding source
Starting point is 01:02:26 to make sure they survive. I don't want to hear about the government. We have too many wealthy blacks. Y'all interview them every day. I'm with you. So you got low alumni donors, right? Low endowments, correct? That's an us problem.
Starting point is 01:02:39 He part of us. Why you keep exhibiting celebrities? They're not better than us. He's one person. Okay, but the point is that one man could have been a catalyst for a movement that would have revolutionized the survival of HBCUs.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Why did the movement stop just because he left? HBCUs will still be there. You're missing the point. No. The abolition wasn't just about Frederick Douglass, but if Frederick Douglass would have pulled out, it would have hurt it. The Underground Railroad wasn't just about Harriet, but if she would have pulled out, it would have hurt it. The Underground Railroad wasn't just about Harriet, but if she would have pulled out, it would have failed. And for him to pull out of Jackson State the way that he did it before making sure the HBCU system survived, to me was selfish.
Starting point is 01:03:16 He chose money over the movement, Charlamagne, and celebrities do it all the time. And y'all want to give him a pass. Nobody get no pass. I don't care who dion sanders is he had a chance to help and he hurt and y'all want to condone that because you black celebrities are not committed to the best interests of black people let me ask you a question let me ask you a question when dion was coaching high school kids for several years when he was talking about that i'm gonna get there when he was coaching high school kids for several years, when he was opening up Prime Prep Academy that got closed down because they had financial issues,
Starting point is 01:03:50 when he went to Jackson State for $1.2 million before years and said, you know what? He didn't even stay for four years. But listen, y'all take half his salary and go build a better facility for students, and he got to pay back $300,000. And after all that, I'm still going to leave Jackson State for a super white college that got a 1.6 black student. But you ain't let me finish my point. Right. No. No, wait.
Starting point is 01:04:13 How can you say he's a black? 1.6 black students, which means the only blacks on that campus are the athletes, and you're going to tell me that that's a step up? You sold us out for money, bro. How can you say it's about money when his track record shows you don't pour in the kids for money? That was no commitment. His track record shows that if white people give me the money, I'll turn my back on the HBCU system. Supervities are not above accountability.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Stop, Charlie. I agree. How many lashes for Dion? 50,000 lashes for Dion. No, no, no, no, no, no. Shut up, shut up. More important question. How much are you going to donate to an HBCU today? 50,000 lashes for Dion. No, no, no, no, no, no. Shut up, shut up. More important question. How much are you going to donate to an HBCU today?
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm building two independent schools. The first in this history. No doubt, but those aren't HBCUs. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you're going to be that passionate about HBCUs, how much are you going to donate to an HBCU today? Let me answer your question. First of all, I'm not a multimillionaire.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Second of all, can I finish my question? I donate to Hbcus on a regular basis okay i do but my point is i'm focused on destroying the school to prison pipeline i'm building two independent schools from the ground you for that black money nobody you've interviewed in this studio ever is doing that so i'm doing my part and that's why i can expect deon sanders to do his part with all that said Dr. Umar what do we do for HBCUs moving forward because Deion gone but HBCUs
Starting point is 01:05:30 gonna still be here I just told you black celebrities have to come together stop buying chains stop going to clubs and strip joints stop with all the expensive clothing stop cooning and use some of this disposable income that we spending on Christmas gifts right now and come up with a funding source so many
Starting point is 01:05:48 celebrities went to HBCUs why can't they be the catalyst of a black celebrity and grassroots because we should be paying to absolute movement to finance this I'm simply saying Dion could have been the face of that and was beginning to be and he allowed himself to get bought out by a white. But he left the blueprint. I don't want to hear about the blueprint. Like Harriet Tubman saying, I'm not going to help you on the underground railroad. I'm a leader blueprint.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Marcus Garvey. I'm not going to help you with the independence. That's cowardly list, man. I'm not, I can't, I'm not putting it on because there's enough of us that can keep these programs sustained.
Starting point is 01:06:22 If we do what we're supposed to do. And also, I just want to tell you, Dr. Umar is going to be on my late night talk show this week and we're going to have a hell of a time i like listen envy i want your listeners please support the frederick douglas marcus garvey academy that's right get on your cash app dollar sign fdmg school paypal.me slash fdmg academy and make sure you subscribe to my video on demand site, www.DrUmar.TV. If you need to reach me, 215-989-9858. Black celebrities must be held accountable.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I always appreciate you, Dr. Umar. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. All right, well, we got to take our flick, right? We got to close it out, man. It's the Breakfast Club. Oh, my bad. It's the Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 01:07:33 the flag. I just kind of looked out of like this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Cap doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
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Starting point is 01:08:05 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.
Starting point is 01:09:09 It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally
Starting point is 01:09:52 that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy
Starting point is 01:10:42 with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nemany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nemany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
Starting point is 01:11:24 nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a moment. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again as they guide you through this podcast experiment in dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had the second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me.
Starting point is 01:12:30 She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want to help.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo. It's a breakfast club, bitchy. Donkey of the day with Charlamagne Tha God. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this. They not letting me do nothing, Duval. Florida going Florida. Okay, Donkey of the Day goes to Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr. He's a Florida man.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And what does your Uncle Charla always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And let me start off by telling you that Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr. the great state of Florida. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And let me start off by telling you that Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr. has been charged with murder. Okay, second degree homicide, all right,
Starting point is 01:13:53 after he was accused of shooting his neighbor. Now, I'm never going to sit here and say it's never a reason to shoot your neighbor. Okay, you hope it's something that never happens, but hey, y'all could have
Starting point is 01:14:03 a dispute that turns violent and you or your neighbor pull a gun on each other okay your neighbor sadly might break into your house you know what i mean all i'm saying is getting into a violent altercation which your neighbor isn't out of the realm of possibilities you hope it's something that never happens because that's your neighbor right but it would have to be for a legitimate reason a very legitimate reason but in life there is legitimate reasons for the rest of us and then there is reasons things happen in florida all right things that happen in florida usually just happen in florida well because it's florida florida's a good enough reason all right you would be hard pressed to hear a story like this anywhere else. Second degree murder, ladies and gentlemen. Second degree murder.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Would you like to know why Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr. was arrested for second degree murder for killing his neighbor? Huh? Would you like to? What's the news report, please? Hold on one second. Let me tell you what the report is. Let's go to WESH NBC2 for the report, please. Sergeant Paul Bloom with the Marion County Sheriff's Office
Starting point is 01:15:06 says they got a call about a shooting after detectives say Clifton Bliss got angry about his neighbor's pet. Mr. Bliss was so upset that his neighbor's cat had wandered over into his yard that he went, retrieved a rifle, leaves his home, goes across the street to the victim's home, tells them that he was upset about their cat coming into his yard. Detectives say Bliss went to his neighbor's house armed with a.22 caliber rifle. He left his home, went to the victim's home, threatened to shoot his cat and ultimately shot the victim and
Starting point is 01:15:36 killed the victims. Neighbors say Bliss would often fight with them about their pets. Bliss is now behind bars without bond charged with second degree homicide i didn't want your cat on my lawn or any pet for that matter and i was your neighbor i might ask you nicely the first time to get your damn pet all right then i ask you sternly the second time third time probably turn the hose on and spray them on your pets when they come on my lawn Alright Probably curse you out every day Until you stop letting your pets come on my lawn
Starting point is 01:16:10 Probably call animal control To come get your pet But I can promise you Without a shadow of a doubt I'm not going to jail, potentially prison By killing you because you can't control your cat Alright, the sad part about this Mr. Bliss was so upset.
Starting point is 01:16:25 You heard the news report. He was so upset that his neighbor's cat kept coming over that he grabbed his rifle, left his house, walked across the street. You know how many steps go into all of that? He had plenty of time to think about the bad decision that he was about to make. Life is all about choices. Seriously, destiny is never a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Clifton, if you was hell bent on shooting something that day, shoot the cat. Only in Florida would someone go from saying I'ma shoot this cat to know I'ma shoot you, the owner of said cat. I don't get it. I don't understand it. But it's not for me to get or understand. He's from Florida. Okay?
Starting point is 01:17:04 When somebody's from florida there's no need to try to make sense of the senseless but i don't put it past clifton all right i don't put it past clifton to have shot the guy over the cat for one simple reason because he didn't have enough bullets let me explain all right think keep in mind he's from florida when you're thinking about florida, you got to get into a Florida mind. He had a 22 caliber rifle. OK, I don't know how many bullets he had in it, but let's just say he only had a few. OK, keep in mind, it's Florida. In his mind, he was thinking to himself, cats have nine lives. So I'm going to have to shoot this cat nine times. Therefore, let me just shoot the owner. Once again, I'm just trying to make sense
Starting point is 01:17:46 of the senseless i don't understand any of this don't get it because why would you give up your freedom over a cat now you have ruined someone's family took a whole life okay traumatized the whole lineage caused that family and yourself all types of mental and emotional distress for what because a cat was on your lawn? Listen to your Uncle Charlotte, Brother Leonard, whatever you want to call me, but this is why you can't make permanent decisions based off temporary feelings. Life is a matter of choices, and every choice you make makes you. The choice Clifton made not only made him a convicted felon, certified jailbird, but today
Starting point is 01:18:26 it makes him a donkey. Please give Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr. the biggest hee-haw. It's just tragic. Very tragic. Alright, well thank you for that donkey of the day. We're not gonna play a game? Would you like to play a game?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah. All right, let's play a game. Guess what race it is! All right, let's listen. Go. Anthony Bliss Jr., Florida man,.22 caliber rifle, got tired of his neighbor's cat crossing his lawn, thought about shooting the cat, decided to kill the neighbor instead. Guess what race it is?
Starting point is 01:19:08 DJ Envy, Clifton Anthony Bliss Jr., Florida man,.22 caliber rifle. White. Why? Why? It just, black people not going to shoot you over a cat. I don't think a black person would shoot you over a cat either. Not over cats. Not over a cat. They might try to poison the cat, you know, something like that.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Now, that's happened. That definitely happened to me in my life. One of the neighbors definitely poisoned our dog. We had two Rottweilers, and the Rottweiler kept getting loose and going over, and the neighbor's trashing stuff, and I guess he got tired of telling us, and then mysteriously, the Rottweiler just died one day. Yeah, I could see black people doing that. They put a little poison cap, maybe rat poison or something like that. But shoot the owner?
Starting point is 01:19:56 Nah, I mean, I even see a black person shooting a cat, but not the owner. Yeah, we wouldn't shoot you over no cat. Maybe over some sneakers or something, but not a cat. Listen, Clifton Bliss Jr. is absolutely Caucasian. See? All right. Still sad, though. Yeah, very sad.
Starting point is 01:20:17 All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. On this fine Friday, we're asking a simple question. It comes from Nick Cannon's daytime talk show. Salute to our good brother, Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Nick Cannon calls himself a pickle-ologist. All right? He has several different ways that he likes his pickles. Let's listen. So next, we've got the pickles. And the pickles are having a big moment right now. Oh, they call me nickel pickle. I'm a pickleologist.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I like pickles. Yeah, you like pickles. Cucumbers and pickles, I'm with this. You're with this. So the first thing we got here is the snickle. Do you know what the snickle is? I'm all about the snickle. You're all about the snickle.
Starting point is 01:21:00 You take a snicker and put it in the middle of a pickle. Yeah. I think I might be the snickle eating champion. I did this on my radio show. So we're asking 800-585-1051. Simple question. How do you like your pickles? How do you like your pickles?
Starting point is 01:21:12 How do you like your pickles, A.B.? Let's start with you. I honestly don't like pickles. You don't like pickles? I don't like pickles. I don't like them. Like, it's something about that pickle that's between the meat and the buns. I just don't like.
Starting point is 01:21:23 So you don't like your pickles sweet? Nope. Do you like your pickles sweet? Nope. Do you like your pickles sour? Nope. Do you like kosher pickles? Nope. Do you like jerking pickles? Nope.
Starting point is 01:21:32 See, some people are scared of jerking pickles. What about you? Because they're small and bumpy, and bumps on a pickle are scary. Like, what is that? Okay? I personally like my pickles on hamburgers and sandwiches. I enjoy my pickles in between the bun. Oh, you like the bun.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Okay, I do. I do. I like them with some meat. And then I like the pickles on top of the meat. And then the bun. You like thick pickles or thin pickles? I like them thin. I like to squirt the ketchup on it and squirt the mayonnaise on it and squirt the mustard on it.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Oh, so tasty. What about long or short? I prefer mine sliced. But if I have to eat a pickle, if I have to put one in my mouth, I prefer the big refrigerator joints. You know like when you walk in the store and you can buy one for a quarter, the big joint? The big, big one.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I love it. Okay. Hello, who's this? Good morning. This is DJ King Cannon out of D.C. It's Freaky Freaky Friday. Good morning, Charlamagne. Good morning, DJ En DJ King Cannon out of D.C. It's Freaky Freaky Friday. Good morning, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Good morning, DJ Envy. This is you, G. Peace, King Cannon. How do you like your pickles, King? Simple question. Pickle talk, man. Pickle talk. Spicy dill pickle in my mouth, baby.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Drop one of Clues Bob's for the spicy dill pickle in King Cannon's mouth. Spicy dill in the mouth. You got to bite it hard, too. You're in there. You got to get in there. Calm down, King. That sounds like it hurts. Calm down.
Starting point is 01:22:50 How many bites does it take you? Same portion. Hey, good morning, Portia. How are you? How do you like your pickle, Portia? So I like my pickles with ranch or with hot sauce. Yo, that sounds like an L combination. I never thought about it.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It is good. But I've also had pickles with peanut butter and yogurt. Now, see, and I'm talking to you, I'm not talking to you, Portia. Now, the pickle with the ranch on the end of it, I can see. You can see the ranch, the white stuff on there? But the pickle with the peanut butter on the end. That sounds like jail. That sounds like jail. That sounds like jail food.
Starting point is 01:23:29 That's backdoor pickle. I ain't messing with backdoor pickle. That sounds like jail food. I don't know. Yeah, I ain't messing with jail food. Pickle. Hello, who's this? This is Cash calling from Plainfield.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Hey, Cash. Good morning, Cash. How does Jersey like their pickles? Firm and wet. Firm and wet. Okay, Cash. How does Jersey like their pickles? Firm and wet. Firm and wet. Okay. Okay. And my pickles name is Amin. Huh? You name all your pickles? My pickles name is Amin.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Yeah. I mean, that's a good question. Do you normally name your pickles? I don't know. No, but I have one particular pickle that I love. Now, I know that my bologna has a first name. A lot of people name their bologna. I've never heard somebody name their pickle. Your bologna has a first name. Now, I know that my baloney has a first name. A lot of people name their baloney. I've never heard somebody name their pickle.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Your baloney has a first name. Oh, that's right. Oscar, right? Yeah. I didn't know pickles have names. Pickles have names? Let me Google this.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Okay. Yeah, my pickle has a first name. Wow. And his name's Amon? Armin. Armin. Does your pickles have batteries as well?
Starting point is 01:24:27 No. Now, I'm going to tell you something. I Googled names of pickles. I Googled names of pickles. All I got was play, kosher, sour, bread and butter, Hungarian, Polish or German, lime or Kool-Aid. I don't see no Armin on here. Yeah. That's my special pickle. Okay. All right. Well, you enjoy your pickle on this Freaky Friday, my man. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And feel free to share. Send us some of Mean Pickles. I've never had that flavor. I don't want a Mean Pickle. No, no, no. You don't want none of that. That's right. That's right, Envy.
Starting point is 01:24:55 You don't want that. Nope. Okay. Send it up here for Charlamagne. Thank you. No, I don't want it. That's not like you got peanut butter on there, though. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:02 800-585-1051. It's Freaky, Fre Freaky Freaky Friday. We're just asking one question. How do you like your pickles? How do you like your pickles? That's all. That's it. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Good morning. Good morning everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. It's Friday so you know what that means. It's Freaky Freaky Freaky Friday.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And the Freaky Freaky Freaky Friday question comes from Nick Cannon who is having a serious conversation on his talk show about pickles. Let's listen. So next we've got the pickles and the pickles are having a big moment right now. Oh, they call me Nickel Pickle. I'm a pickleologist.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I like pickles. Yeah, you like pickles. Cucumbers and pickles. I'm with this. You're with this. So the first thing we got here is the snickle. Do you know what the snickle is? I'm all about the snickle.
Starting point is 01:25:48 You take a snicker and put it in the middle of a pickle. Yeah. I think I might be the snickle eating champion. I did this on my radio show. Now, I've never had any of those combinations of pickles. Me neither. You know what I mean? I've never had the snickers in the pickle.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I only like my pickles, you know, on hamburgers, you know, on top of meat, in between buns, on sandwiches. That's about it. So, we're asking the simple question, right? Yeah, just, you know, how do you like your pickles? How do you like your pickles? Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:26:19 This Wayne, our sample man. Wayne, what's happening, King? Not much. How do you like your pickles, Wayne? Nick Wildin out. the temple, man. Wayne, what's happening, King? Not much. How do you like your pickles, Wayne? Nick wilding out. Straight up, yo. I can't do pickles. I let my wife do my pickles, but pickles, I don't even. It's not the vocabulary, man.
Starting point is 01:26:37 So how does your wife do your pickles, sir? Does she dill them? Does she refrigerate them? Does she soak them in Kool-Aid? Like, how does she do your pickles? Oh, we talking about that pickle. What pickle are you talking about, sir? We talking about pickles.
Starting point is 01:26:49 What's up with y'all, yo? Listen, man. We don't do pickles. Man, don't do pickles like that. We haven't done pickles since we were like six. We're not eating pickles no more, man. So you don't put pickles on your hamburger in between the buns? Between the buns.
Starting point is 01:27:03 The buns. The hamburger buns. Yeah, the hamburger buns. Yes. The hamburger buns. Yes. So you like that? So you like pickles in between buns?
Starting point is 01:27:11 Absolutely, but I'm not the one that's eating it. Do you like them... Huh? So you let other people bite on your burger? On my burger?
Starting point is 01:27:18 Hey, Charlamagne, where we going now? What are you talking about? What's up with y'all this morning? I'm crazy today. Do you like your pickles sweet or sour, sir? It's freaking Friday. What you talking about? What's up with y'all this morning? I'm crazy today. Do you like your pickles sweet or sour, sir? It's freaking Friday.
Starting point is 01:27:29 What you talking about? We're buying it out. Do you like lime pickles? Lime pickles? They got cinnamon pickles, too. Hey, listen. Whatever floats your boat, that's fine, y'all. But lime pickles and all that, nah.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I'm right there with Envy. In between the buns. I like pickles in between bunsvy in between the buns. I like pickles in between buns. Not between my buns. Listen, there's nothing better than a nice hamburger with some meat and some pickles and some tomatoes and some lettuce. Hello, who's this? What's up, Envy? Travis!
Starting point is 01:27:59 Travi Trav! Good morning, Trav. What up, Trav? How you doing, my brother? I want to tell y'all how I like my pickles. How do you like your pickles, Trav? Let's go, Trav. How do you like your pickles?
Starting point is 01:28:12 I like to put fruit roll up around it, right? And then you wrap the fruit roll up around it, and I like to heat it off like that. Well, that's what Nick said. Nick said he likes to put fruit roll up around his pickle, too. How does that taste? What's the sensation in your mouth like? It's really, really sweet. It's sweet with a little bit of bitterness to it how hard do you have to bite into it though because i would think that the fruit roll-up causes a little bit more
Starting point is 01:28:34 resistance with the teeth okay talk that talk wait wait i don't bite him wait we're talking about a penis right no pickle what is wrong with you what is wrong with you where did you go you need to get your mind out of the gutter i just can't i don't know what's going on this is a family show what how dare y'all what who would ever what is wrong with people i don't know my god hello who's this hold on cut it out oh cut it out okay You got your people with you, brother? No. I'm doing me. I got this. What's going on? The pickle's supposed to be sliced or whatever, man.
Starting point is 01:29:09 You ain't putting no whole pickle in your mouth doing whatever. It's an unwritten rule as a male. You know what I mean? You don't do that. That is a damn lie. They sell them whole pickles in the store for a quarter. You ain't going to sit here and tell me you ain't never bought you a whole pickle. When you was a kid, you ain't as a... Well, starting at teenage,
Starting point is 01:29:25 you know it's an unwritten rule. As a male, you don't put no joints that resemble... I would think... All that shit in your mouth. We don't do that. I would think the older you get, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:36 it would be easier to eat the whole pickle. You know what I'm saying? That's how you feel about it? The older you got, it was easier for you to put it in your mouth? Yeah. Because when you was young, my hands were smaller. Or you like the thick pickle, bro?
Starting point is 01:29:47 You asking Charlotte that, right, man? No, you. Because you know they got curved pickles, too. If I'm sliced, we slicing it. Slicing and dicing. That's how we doing it. Who are you? Why would you want to slice the pickle?
Starting point is 01:29:59 Listen, do you like candy pickles? Nah, what's a candy pickle? Candy pickles. It's like they soak it in like this candy type of juice. It's kind of like the Kool-Aid joint. So it's like it's covered in like this thick layer of sweetened liquid. And it makes the pickle like easier to eat. What?
Starting point is 01:30:18 You want a licorice pickle? What? I've never heard of that. That's what you sound like you just said. No, no, no, it is. They got candy pickles. People know what I'm talking about. What? I've never heard of that. No, no, no, it is. They got candy pickles. People know what I'm talking about. It's just, you know, it's just with this sweet liquid, like this sugary liquid.
Starting point is 01:30:37 All right, well, Sean, you were supposed to check out the joint last time for me, man. And what happened? You ain't never check it out for me. And never send me no books, nothing. I always get cut off. Eddie, why you ain't send my guy the books? What books you want? I'm going to send you Dr. Rita Walker, the unapologetic guide to black mental health,
Starting point is 01:30:49 and I'm going to send you Anita Kopach, Shallow Waters. But you hold on, all right? Stay on hold, and I'm going to send you a jar of candy pickles. Hold on. I wanted you and Envy to check out the real underscore ancient Greco joint. RG. Like, for real, for real. What's it called?
Starting point is 01:31:02 The real underscore ancient Greco. Ancient Greco. Ancient Greco. Okay. All right. We'll check it out. Yes, sir, please. And let me know what you think. For real.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Yes, sir. Hold on. Hold on. All right. What's the moral of the story, bro? The moral of the story is, I mean, however you choose to eat your pickles this weekend, man, you know, it's on you. Whatever floats your boat, you know?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Nick Cannon likes his pickles with fruit roll-ups around them. He likes his pickles with Snickers. I've never had any of those combinations. Only thing I like my pickles on is on hamburgers and sandwiches. That's it. And plain. Okay. I'll take a plain pickle.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I'll hold it in my hand. Yeah. One hand. One hand. Right to your mouth. Okay. Thin, thick. You say it again.
Starting point is 01:31:42 You don't like bumps. Okay. What color? Because it's like a darker one or a lighter one? Okay. All right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Believe us on a positive note. Listen, the positive note is this, man. If you find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere. Breakfast Club, bitches!
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