The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (GHerbo Interview, Jemelle Hill interview, Ask C &E)

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Today on the show we flashed back to when Gherbo visited she show and spoke about his new album, XXXTentacion, Life As A Dad, Mental Health and more. Also, we flashed back to on her memoir, forgivenes...s, career risks, breaking generational curses and more. Moreover, its Wednesday so we had to flash back to some of the best Ask C and E advice after flashing back to when Charalamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to an esaped inmate. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,
Starting point is 00:00:46 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-S-T-A-N on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the
Starting point is 00:02:05 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not
Starting point is 00:02:22 everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It's kind of a mess. Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. long way. I think that y'all have a certain amount of respect for, you know, what everybody else does. And y'all are just the best at what y'all do. This platform, the reach y'all have, that you've earned, makes space for somebody like me. You guys have a direct line to the culture. Oh my God, I'm on the radio with Angela Charlemagne and DJ Envy. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:03:20 All I do is read about the Breakfast Club every morning good you guys are trending every you know I drag my ass out of that. I'm like what happened on the breakfast club today Good morning, USA! Yes. We're not even really here. You think you're listening to us, but we're not. Well, we are not. We're here in spirit. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to be playing some of our top interviews and some throwbacks. So keep it locked. Red is going to be running the boards, and we'll see you all in the new year.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Happy holidays. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast club hello who's this hey this is jaleesa good morning jaleesa getting off your chest yeah today i just got pulled over by the cops for no reason i'm not understanding this this is terrible where you calling from um i live in north carolina but i'm from new jersey why they say they pulled you over, Mama?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Supposedly that my brake light wasn't working, but remind you, I never even hit the brake. That's an old trick by most police officers, especially in the Carolinas. That's right. Tell you, brake light out. He told me I was drinking
Starting point is 00:05:01 and driving. I told him, I said, sir, I do not drink. He said, are you sure? I said, sir, I do not drink. He said, are you sure? I said, yes, I do not drink at all. So he comes back to my car, and he gave me a breathalyzer. So I said, oh, how do I do this? He said, take a deep breath in and then blow. So I did that. Tell me why I came back 0.0.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I said, see, I told you now. What's the next step from here? He gives me something talking about, oh, you have to go to court. What? Because your taillight is out and et cetera, et cetera. Oh, come on. I just bought the car. It's a brand new car?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, it's a brand new car. Yeah, you can tell. He's harassing you. But he had to give you a reason. He had to give you a reason for pulling you over. If not, he'd have been totally in the wrong. He could have just let you go. Just let it go. I just put out, you know, like he had to meet a deadline or for pulling you over. If not, he'd have been totally in the wrong. He could have just let you go. Just let it go.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I just feel like he had to meet a deadline on making a certain amount of money. Because you know how they do in New Jersey or New York? At a certain amount, like a deadline, they have to make a certain amount. So he feel like, yo, he can't make that amount in a certain time, so he want to write a bullshit ticket. Use my language.
Starting point is 00:06:00 You should definitely go to court and fight that one, mama. And you have the paperwork that you just bought a car. Have the paperwork say he was harassing you, that you were 0.0. He's probably going to say that he's seen you swerve and you were driving erratic, so he assumed that you were drunk. But I would take that to court, mama. Yeah, that's the best thing to do, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah, and I just want to give a shout out, you know, to New York and New Jersey because, you know, I'm from up top, but I live down here. And it's crazy how police are nowadays. Okay. Well, be safe out there and be careful. I'm glad you made it out of there. Yeah, don't let it ruin your day. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Have a nice day, you guys, and stay blessed. You too now. Hello, who's this? It's me. I'm not going to tell you my name right now. All right, me. What's up? You know you on the radio.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You can remain anonymous, ma'am. You could have said any name, but we'll rock with you. Okay. So I want to get off my chest the fact that Derek needs to pay me my money. I've paid the mortgage for him to live in the house, and he's not paying, and he's messing up my credit. I want my money. You got to give us some context, Queen. Where are you calling from?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Jersey. And who is Derek? That's your baby daddy? A boyfriend or something? Ex-boyfriend or ex-husband. No, my formal husband. Oh, he owe you child support or something? No, I owe him no child support. No, I said he owe you child support.
Starting point is 00:07:15 He owe me mortgage money for living for free and messing up my credit. Oh, okay. Well, you're not going to get that money, mama. You know that. I'm going to have to. He ain't got it. I don't know what he needs to get out. She said, I'm going to get it out of his ass one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You're not going to get that money, mama. You're going to drive yourself crazy. Just kick him out and just think about it like this. That investment you paid is an investment not to have him in your life no more. Ever. Thank you. Ever. It's fine. But you have a great Labor Day weekend. georgia what up brother get it off your chest yeah i just want to put it
Starting point is 00:07:51 out there let everybody know if you have a business idea or a thing you're trying to put on don't assume it's gonna be successful because you have them your friends are gonna support you sometimes that's not how it works yeah what happened, man? So I have a fitness event. It's called Not Tell Games. I do it for the first two years in my hometown Indiana. Thinking it's going to be successful. Didn't get the turnout I wanted. Depending on my family and friends
Starting point is 00:08:15 helping put it together. It was a dud. I moved down to Georgia. I moved down to Georgia and it's going to be one of the biggest fitness games down here in the state. And I'm bootstrapping it all myself. No team or nothing. I go down to Georgia, and it's going to be one of the biggest tennis games down here in the state, and I'm bootstrapping it all myself. No team or nothing. I have to take the handicaps off, drain the wheels off,
Starting point is 00:08:33 and get it all done myself. That's how it always is, man. You know that. You know nine times out of ten you're going to get more support somewhere else than in your hometown. You know that. Shouldn't be like that, though. It shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You know, you can't ever expect, and I've learned this from starting businesses, you can't ever expect the people around you that they have to do things to support you. You still got to act like you out there doing it on your own and put forth all the effort like you're not going to have that. And if they do support you, that's a great and amazing surprise. That's just the way people are sometimes. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,
Starting point is 00:09:16 where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:10:06 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. looked at of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:11:10 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone.
Starting point is 00:12:56 The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same
Starting point is 00:13:54 as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for post run high it's where we take the conversation
Starting point is 00:15:27 beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:16:09 The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sup, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on
Starting point is 00:17:46 with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over
Starting point is 00:18:02 to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history Like this one about Claudette Colvin A 15 year old girl in Alabama Who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
Starting point is 00:18:40 Nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level.
Starting point is 00:19:33 We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, Evie? This is Tyler from Chicago. How y'all feeling? Tyler from the shot. What up, brother? Get it off your chest. Peace, Tyler.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Hey, what's going on, Sharla? How you feeling, dog? Bless Black and Holly favorite, King. That's what's up. That's what's up. Hey, man, I'm glad the guys are here. Maybe y'all can help me out. I'm in a little bit of a pickle. What's up, man? What's up, Dr. Sup? Hey, man. I'm glad the guys are here. Maybe y'all can help me out. I'm in a little bit of a pickle.
Starting point is 00:20:45 What's up, man? What's your pickle? So, man, my big sister, she got into some stuff, man, last weekend. She got in trouble. A little road rage incident that went all the way left, and she ended up getting arrested and hit with a class X felony. So, her bond was $100,000, and I got to pay 10.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Okay. I don't want to pay 10. I got a vacation coming up in two weeks. And I feel like maybe a little jail time might give her a little character. Hey, you know what? No, you know what? I'm going to tell you something. I went to jail one time
Starting point is 00:21:21 for pointing and presenting a firearm. I think the charge originally was assault and battery with an attempt to kill. I was in the backseat when one of my homeboys was in the front and shot. And my dad did the same thing. My dad let me sit for like 45 days. Number one, the bond was high. And he was waiting for the bond to be reduced. But he was letting me sit on purpose because he said he wanted me to learn a little lesson.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Now, this is your sister's first incident? Yeah, but she's 42 years old, though. She's 42? What happened? She allegedly pulled out a weapon or something? Yeah, she did. How do you know about this? Did you hear about this on Facebook? No, I don't know. I mean, the only way you're going to get a felony for a road
Starting point is 00:22:02 raid is if you pull out a weapon, brother. Let me ask you a question. It was pretty bad. If you let her sit a little while longer, would a bond go down? I don't think so. She ended up getting to it with a lawyer who happened to be white. And she's black. So it's pretty bad, bro. We got to get her a really good lawyer.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I'm talking about a Jewish lawyer. There's some good black lawyers, man. There's some great Jewish lawyer. Like, you know, there's some good black lawyers, man. There's some great black attorneys. What do you mean? When's the vacation? Look, it's in two weeks. I'm supposed to go down to NOLA. It's my only vacation time of the year. And I'm in a conflict, man. I don't know if I want to spend
Starting point is 00:22:37 this money because I don't think I'm going to get it back. I don't know. I'm going on vacation. Alright, let me ask you a question. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Colin. Now, if you was in the same incident, would she bail you out? That's the thing. I don't know. My older sister, my twin sister, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:55 But my older sister, I don't know. What does your heart tell you to do? What is your spirit telling you to do right now? Because the only thing that causes conflict is the devil. Keep my money. That's what the Lord is telling me. To keep my money because I work hard for it, Sharla. Enjoy your vacation, King.
Starting point is 00:23:08 This girl is stupid. Enjoy your vacation, King. She's 42 years old. She ain't got no money? Does she got a crib or anything? That's the thing. She works for the city. Her husband got a little bit of money. Her husband? Oh, she got a husband. Man, enjoy your vacation, King.
Starting point is 00:23:24 That's what I'm saying. Okay, I appreciate y. Man, enjoy your vacation, King. That's what I'm saying. Okay, I appreciate y'all. Enjoy your vacation, King. Y'all, you figure that out when you come back from vacation. You'll have a clearer mind. But what about if her husband ain't got no money? We ain't got nothing to do with that. You'll have a clearer mind to think about it after that vacation.
Starting point is 00:23:36 That's his sister, though. I started to go fund me. Let's go fund me. Yeah. Enjoy your vacation, King. Call us and tell us about your vacation after you take it. Damn it, man. Y'all a fat.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Man, enjoy your vacation, man. That's your sister. God bless her. She's 42. She's not even got kids. God bless her. God bless her. She got a husband.
Starting point is 00:23:56 She made a choice. Let that man go enjoy his vacation. When he come back, then y'all figure it out. Enjoy your vacation, brother. Get it off your chest. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Special guest in the building this morning. Yes, sir. We got a brother G Herbo here. What's up, brother? And who you got with you, G Herbo? I got drinks, man. Drinks, drinks. My blood cousin, man. What's going on? Feeling good. I'm good, bro. First of all, happy birthday. You just celebrated. Happy belated.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Thank you. Appreciate it, bro. And it's crazy because I thought I listened to Survivor's Remorse. Yeah. Then a whole other goddamn album dropped. How'd the thing go? I wanted some change. That fast.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, man. I'm excited, man. I'm just happy to be here, bro. I'm blessed to be able to put this project out. But it's more than just an album. I feel the universe and the energy around it. I really feel like it's a moment of triumph for me when I wasn't even trying to celebrate it.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know what I'm saying? I went through so much recording this project and just so much in life growing as a man, and this album is a complete reflection, a complete testament of who I am and how I've grown as a man. You know what I'm saying? I was going to ask you, you had two kids, and I've been seeing your video of your kids beating you up.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Three now, man. Three all together. That's right. I was going to ask, how has that changed you? I always say the happiest I'm going to ever be is just hanging with my kids, you know what I'm saying? Especially when I got all three of them in the house together, man. It's perfect, you feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:24 And your son, the only thing, you know, I'm thinking as I'm walking here for real, and I knew y'all was going to ask me something about my kids, and the reason why I go so hard and why it's so important because the time that I spend away from my kids has got to mean something, man. You feel what I'm saying? I'm really sacrificing time away from my kids,
Starting point is 00:25:42 not seeing them for this, you feel me? So it's got to mean something. It's got to work. You know, it for this. You feel me? So it got to mean something. It got to work. You know, it got to work for me. It got to work for them because that's the foundation that I'm laying. You feel what I'm saying? And my kids don't know they Daddy G Herbo for real.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Like, he'll sign, though, because everybody, you know, we'll be walking or in the airport or something and people will be like, hey, yo, son, hey. He's a celebrity. How do you know my name? You know what I'm saying? He's fat. He don't really understand. He asks me now, like, Daddy, am I famous. He's a celebrity. How do you know my name? He's five. He don't really understand.
Starting point is 00:26:05 He asks me now, like, daddy, am I famous? I be wanting to tell him no. But then I be like, you feel me? But then I be like, yeah. You told him to put some on. You know, I'm buying some more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's different, man.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Like, just having him around other kids and stuff. You know, they treat him like a celebrity. But it's like, I'm saying that to say, like, I want all my kids to have foundation, balance. You feel me? So it got to mean something. Me moving fast, like, I want all my kids to have foundation balance. You feel me? So it got to mean some me moving fast. I'll be on the road so much and worry about money. And you don't even you don't even realize you really raising your kids a certain way. You feel I'm saying, like, I don't want my kids to grow up how I grew up for one.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But I don't want to grow up just like an industry kid or like, you know, I'm saying i want my kid to grow up regular man i want him to just have his innocence you feel me that's charismatic and freedom to just be them all my kids you feel i'm saying and that's important so and i always used to say that i gotta go hard well i could have the freedom to take a year off for real like a real year to just travel and be with my family you know i'm saying like i always been wanted to be that type of type of artist to have that because I feel like I ain't going to be able to raise my kids right
Starting point is 00:27:07 if I'm just focused on this. Yeah, it sounds on the album, too. Does he understand? Does he understand that? How did he react when he heard it? He called me on FaceTime. He called me first.
Starting point is 00:27:16 He's like, Daddy, it's your birthday? I'm like, yeah, it's my birthday. He said, I didn't miss it. I said, no. He said, I was so scared I was going to miss your birthday.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It just dropped. Your birthday just dropped. We're talking about the album. Your birthday just came out and he was listening to the song. He was listening to me on the TV and he turned around.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's just crazy that he really understands it. He's seeing it now. He's a fan of the music. He don't just listen to my music. He's just a fan of music and the culture. You know what I'm saying? But that's like, I noticed that
Starting point is 00:27:47 and that's why I don't whoop my kids. I just let them, how I grew up, that's why I'm so smart and that I was exposed to so much. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Like, you gotta still expose your kids to things so we can learn. Like, I feel like that's knowledge that my son growing and I'm just be able to like,
Starting point is 00:28:01 polish it all up just by talking to him. You know, I'm gonna be honest with all my kids. That's how they're going to structure that foundation. That's how I got it. My parents were just honest with me. Brutally honest. We saw you in protective father mode.
Starting point is 00:28:14 When was that? When you was out with your child and somebody was being a little too pushy? Yeah, the crew league. I was just trying to... You know I'm cool. I'm friendly. I would just be trying to... It ain't really that. A lot of times people be trying to like, you know, I'm cool. I'm friendly. You feel what I'm saying? But I would just be trying to like, it ain't really that, you know, because a lot of times people be trying to go viral. And I was stopping it right then because had it been something that would have offended
Starting point is 00:28:30 me, it would have went all the way to a whole nother level. So people thought I was, I was joking, but I wasn't really, I wasn't mad. And then I was just showing them like, don't play. Especially when you with your kids. Absolutely. You can't even play wild with nobody that I care about, you feel me? Especially my kids. So I just wanted to just let
Starting point is 00:28:46 like, just draw that line right there. Alright, we got more with G Herbo. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
Starting point is 00:29:01 The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with G Herbo. Yee. What do your parents have to say about this? Because I'm sure... My mom will be calling me all the time saying she's proud and stuff like that. She just called me the other day like, you're so smart. She was watching one of my interviews and stuff like that. But she know I had to turn into this.
Starting point is 00:29:19 But she said like, she just told me this little saying. She said, you've always been the captain of your ship, vessel of your soul. Because when I was 16, 15, I was really making decisions like a grown man. You know what I'm saying? My mom was letting her 16-year-old son leave out the house. And she know I'm not going to school. She know I'm about to, you know what I'm saying, dance with the devil in a sense. And she allowed me to do that.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And I feel like if she didn't allow me to do that I wouldn't even be the man that I am right now today you know I'm saying so I give credit to my to both parents you know could you have foreseen your career lasting really it's been a long time already and you're only 24 years old because you have foreseen this back when you were like 16 years old that you would have this longevity that you would be here you'd be moving to LA you'd be having this life I wanted to be but I didn't know what I needed to do to get there because like I said I was really suffering from a mental illness I had PTSD since I was a kid so I really thought that I was going to be able to be in the hood and maneuver the same way I did when I was in the streets and we all know that's not the recipe for success so i wanted i had these aspirations but i
Starting point is 00:30:26 feel like life going through the stuff that i'm you know i'm saying like just this life throw at you i feel like kind of gave me the what i got now to really make sure i'm staying around because i thought i was gonna be on my block in a rose royce kicking it with a 50 you know i'm saying you know like that's a target on your back. With the biggest target on my forehead. Forget my back. So I really thought that that was going to be my life. But now, probably in the past two or three years, I know.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I know this for a reason. I know I'm doing something because I'm here to stay. Ain't that f***ed up, though? Because you would think that your hood would be happy for you. Other black men and women would be happy for you. Yeah. You shouldn't have to move away from that. Yeah, but.
Starting point is 00:31:12 You also can't go on a Rolls Royce in the middle of the hood and just be all the time. Yeah. Because that's also kind of like rubbing stuff in people's hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. That's how some people look at it, but I always look at it as inspiration. It's inspiration. It's inspiration because I was on them same corners. I was on them same corners i was on them same corners up shoes guns all i was on them same corners doing
Starting point is 00:31:30 everything that they was doing and it ain't really like i'm humble bro i touch the people like i pull up in a rose royce truck and hit on everybody i'm gonna pull up in a rose royce truck and let the kids hop in my what did you world mean toRLD mean to you? That's my little brother, man. I think about him every single day. You know, I be saying, like, I don't know, because I'm in New York, y'all probably ain't gonna like me saying this, but I think, like, what Juice was to our generation, bro, and the impact that he had on us
Starting point is 00:31:59 is what Biggie did for New York, for real. He had that, like, that Biggie-Pac effect. Why do you say he means so much to this generation? What was it that gave you that feeling? Was it the content? Was it his commercial success? It was all, but it was also his vulnerability. He was a vulnerability in his music, man.
Starting point is 00:32:17 He helped people. You know what I'm saying? When I met that kid, he had anxiety already. He wasn't trying to chase the glory. He wasn't doing none of the stuff he was doing because he was famous and i feel like inside out he did what made him happy and with him being himself he had laid that leg he got a real legacy that's gonna live on forever and i'm saying i feel like so that's what what i mean by that so how do you prevent a situation
Starting point is 00:32:44 like that i mean you can't really prevent anything. But when you think about that and you process that, how do you avoid something like that happening to you? Life is going to be life. That's why I did go to the detox facility that I went to because I knew I was an addict. I got an addictive personality. I used to drink a lot of lean. I used to pop a lot of pills. And so I knew that the same way I was in the streets
Starting point is 00:33:08 and I knew that I could die being in the streets, I knew I could die from drug abuse. You know what I'm saying? Drug addiction. Every day I did, I'm like, of course I don't want to die. It ain't going to be me. But I knew I could. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:17 So I moved accordingly like that. And it was really my son, bro. My son the reason why I went. The reason I think it's so dope when a brother like you talks about their mental health issues and goes to therapy because that's all Juice WRLD needed. He needed that one conversation to say, bro, whatever you're dealing with, the anxiety, the trauma, the PTSD, go get some help. I used to talk to Juice. I remember one time we was in London. We had a conversation for like an hour just in the hallway of our hotel.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And I was just telling him how to deal with everything, like his success, deal with being in a relationship how to deal with you know i'm saying everything with his family really not having nothing to do with music you know i'm saying just dealing with life we appreciate you for joining us g herbo it's the breakfast club good morning taking you back right back with the classic rewind it's the breakfast club i thought this was a podcast it's topic time with a classic rewind. It's The Breakfast Club. I thought this was a podcast. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just join us, Charlamagne gave Donkey the day to who? Man, this dude from New York City, man.
Starting point is 00:34:28 His name is Edwin Pedroza. And he actually stabbed a man named Jay Nunes to death because Jay Nunes held the door for him. And Jay Nunes said to him, why don't you say thank you? And Edwin said, I didn't ask you to hold the door for me. And then that led into an altercation that led him to stab jay newton right so we're asking 800-585-1051 uh do you expect or deserve a thank you by the way that goes with that whole you're welcome thing y'all keep saying like if you open the door for somebody and the person doesn't say thank you and then you say you're welcome that's kind of the same thing as saying hey why don't you say thank you which led
Starting point is 00:35:04 to this altercation which led to this incident. That's never happened to me. I just say you're welcome and keep moving. Yeah, I just say you're welcome and keep moving. I've never sat in and went and had a whole altercation over it. Oh, my God. I think it's the same thing. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:35:16 This is Anisha from VA, Hampton Road. Hampton Road 757. Yes. Now, you're walking in the store and you decide to hold open one of these doors for somebody, and they don't say nothing. What you doing? I'm letting the door go if they don't say thank you. Oh, you're going to let the door slam right in their face.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Slam on them. Yes, because I say thank you when I'm in traffic. Someone lets me merge in front of them. You do the little wave, like, thank you. I do that, too. So it's common courtesy. And if people can't say thank you, then they don't deserve the common courtesy. But you know you can't expect you from other people, man.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And sometimes when you don't get you from other people, you know, like, it just is what it is. It's common courtesy. So I'm going to let the door go that's just rude and how do you let the dog go before because if you hold in the door and they don't say thank you they already got to get through exactly what you was talking about what you said I do the too though I know exactly what you were talking about When you said it Because I do the same exact thing You just let it go
Starting point is 00:36:28 And then hit them right in the back of the ass Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Bianca Bianca, where you calling from? I'm calling from the Bronx right now Oh, oh boy Now somebody walk in that door You hold that door for somebody
Starting point is 00:36:40 And they don't say thank you What is the BX doing? Listen, that's a problem Like if you can't give a person a common courtesy Of saying thank you When they hold the say thank you what is the bx doing listen that's a problem like if you can't give a person a common courtesy of saying thank you when they hold the door for you that you are a trash human being bottom line but we know but we know this though that's my point it's like if you if you're a good person you got to just be cool with being a good person because everybody not going to do do you the way you would do somebody else i mean well yeah i mean you're not going to do you the way you would do somebody else. I mean, well, yeah. I mean, you're not going to throw off
Starting point is 00:37:05 my whole day by not saying thank you. But I am going to look at you and wonder what's wrong with you because who does that? And you don't say you're welcome. And I will say, you know, sometimes people aren't paying attention.
Starting point is 00:37:19 They're on their phone. They're doing things. And you say you're welcome. They're like, oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Yeah, and you're like, oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. It could be just an. Yeah, and you're like, oh, I'm sorry, thank you. It could be just an oversight.
Starting point is 00:37:26 You know when a person is paying attention. You know, and they just walk through the door like you owe them that. And they don't say thank you. It's like, what? What's wrong with you? Exactly. Thank you, BX. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm going to tell you how this altercation started once again. They held the door. I'll tell you, that'll be the moral of the story. Hello, who's this? This is Malloy from South Carolina. 8-4-3. Oh boy,
Starting point is 00:37:49 I see how this is going to go. So you walk, somebody walking through the door, you hold the door for them, they keep it moving, don't say nothing. Man, I feel just like Solomon.
Starting point is 00:37:56 My grandma taught me that respect takes you further than money. And I tell you what, if you want to go with a pretty young lady with a nice bunkie, that's the deal.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Okay? I do not do it for nobody's reaction at all. Sometimes I even laugh. I got a type of attitude where, you know, like, it feels like I'm supposed to do it. But really, no, I do it because it makes me feel good, man. And then, hey, when that girl with the big bunk you walk by you say boy that girl fat up any so what so what do you do what do you do it with like say somebody with Charlemagne
Starting point is 00:38:37 that you know thick thighs over there he come to a shut up man I'll go in first and I just kind of hold the door and let him come in behind me. But he don't walk in before me. No, no, no, no. So it depends. It depends. It depends.
Starting point is 00:38:52 All right. Thank you, brother. What's the moral of the story, yo? I mean, the moral of the story is, man, you just can't expect things from people. You can't expect you from other people. And I'm not going to take it personal, you know, if somebody doesn't say thank you. Because I'm not holding the door for them because I want to thank you. I'm holding the door for them because I'm a nice person.
Starting point is 00:39:07 This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We've got a special guest in the building. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Jemele Hill. She's got a new book out, her Uphill, her memoir. That's right. Great picture, by the way. Thank you. How many of these did you have to pick through before you landed on this one? You know what? And this is going to sound far more salacious than I actually mean it, but that was from
Starting point is 00:39:35 a Playboy shoot I did. What? Yeah, so. How'd you do Playboy? Yeah, because Playboy, read it for the articles. It's very good writing. It's very good writing in Playboy, everybody. Hold on, let me see what pictures on the back.
Starting point is 00:39:49 They did a feature on me at some point. I think it was earlier this year. And so the photo shoot, the photographer, I believe his name is Eric Carter. He's based out of L.A. He took some phenomenal photos. Wow. Because during COVID, we couldn't really work out how to you know get new photos taken so i was like i love these from the playboy shoot
Starting point is 00:40:10 did you play a joke on the husband and be like hey i'm doing a shoot with playboy oh i totally did like i was just like i'm gonna be in playboy he was like what i think they don't do new pictures anymore no i don't think so i think it's like a more of a, you know, content oriented. They've always had good articles in Playboy. I'm serious. Listen, Alex Haley wrote for Playboy. Okay. So like. I don't think anybody ever went to Playboy for the articles.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You telling on yourself right now, but that's okay. I love the title of the book too. Uphill. I mean, it's a play on your last name, of course, but I mean. It actually isn't. It's not? It's not. It's not.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And it was not my title idea. This was not the original title that I wanted. What was the original title? What up, though? 313. That came in third. No, the original title I wanted was Broken Curses, because I talk a lot about my family history, family trauma, and all of that.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And my mother, and I'm sure you guys have heard this before from elders or from your parents or uncles or whatever. But the fact that there are generational curses. And my mother used to talk about, you know, breaking those in our family. And so that's why I wanted to name it Broken Curses. But my publisher, they thought it was a little too negative, that it wasn't uplifting enough. And my book editor, Shannon, shout out to you, Shannon. She came up with that title, Up You. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And I said to you, the chosen one. Because honestly, you talk about your mom and the things that she's been through and your whole family. And it's a lot. And so how does she feel about, you know, these stories being told? So I talked to my mother. We had numerous conversations about what was going to be in this book and she knew what I was doing in the journey that I was on in writing it and knew that I wanted to write it transparently but uh honestly Angela that was probably the most
Starting point is 00:41:56 difficult part because I was I was I was in the unfortunate position of asking my mother about the worst moments of her life. And I tried to save those conversations for last, if you will, so that we could talk about maybe happier things and fun memories just to kind of not come from a traumatic perspective. And so it was tough. I mean, my mother told me some stories I did not even know. You know, the story that I tell in the book about her too much away okay but you know i guess it's an example of a story but that's where i tell in the book uh about how one of her low points during her addiction was being you know caught in this drug house and having to hide out from drug dealers in that house on the floor on a rat infested floor i didn't even know that story until she told me because that happened when I was in
Starting point is 00:42:47 college I was so scared with that part yeah underneath those dirty clothes rats running around yep and she had to stay still and I thought they was gonna steal her car while she was inside I well her car as I tell did eventually get stolen you know and it was nothing she could do about it but it was where she was at the time that was stolen and what she was doing how did you feel having those conversations with your mom because I had to be emotional I was reading some of that stuff that she went through and I was like in tears um it was it was difficult and but I think for her it was cathartic because these
Starting point is 00:43:23 are traumatic incidents that you know during the time after she was sexually abused. And as I tell in the book, she was the victim of a violent rape. You know, people weren't going to therapy then. Like that wasn't suggested. And as you know, Charlamagne, from your work in mental health in our community, that was something we didn't do. So imagine going through all of that with no therapy. And that's why, as I discuss in the book, she was going through very severe PTSD and did not know it because that wasn't a term then that we even were familiar with.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And so, yeah, those were difficult conversations. But I think at the end of them, it was really healing for both of us, you know, to be honest, like I certainly knew about the trauma she experienced, but her going into detail, it gives me a better and more enriched perspective about who she is. Yeah, I feel like it allowed I feel like it allowed you to give her more grace. Yeah. And listen, people have been asking me about what i want people to take away from this book it's a few things but one of the most important things is that i want i want people to know you should talk to your people while they're here right like your mothers your aunties
Starting point is 00:44:35 your father whoever in your family find out about them because usually like especially your relatives and especially your parents they lived a whole life a whole life before you even got here. And writing this book, it really made me miss my grandmother who died in 2010 because I realized I didn't ask her nearly as much about her life as I should have.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I know it's hard sometimes for parents and grandparents to share traumatic moments or their failures or disappointments but it helps you see them as full people and maybe that does allow you to give them more grace with some of the decisions they made and even in some respects to how they've treated you i was gonna ask did you understand more after talking to your mom and writing this book because you know even for myself i didn't really understand until i had kids And then when I had kids and I'm living my own life, I'm like, that's why my dad did that.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's why my mom acted that way. But, you know, during the time, I don't want to say I hated them, but you hated what they were doing. Right. But now it's like, damn, I understand. So did you understand more and were able to? You know what I understood more is why even in present day she lives with so much regret we had an interesting conversation recently about that because I forgave my mother for this a long time ago I've let this go because I think as a kid you know it was it was different because her trauma was something I
Starting point is 00:46:00 had to navigate around so it felt like my childhood was being stolen from me. And so, you know, you carry some resentment for that. And so I let that go. I forgave her, encouraged her as she was turning her life around. You know, my mother, I mean, she's got her master's now. You know, she got her bachelor's, master's. You know, she out-educated me, which I'm very, very proud that she did. And then she went back to school in her 50s.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Okay. And so, you know, this has really been a remarkable turnaround for her. But, yeah, I mean, you know, once I let all of that stuff, you know, go, I think I was good with it. But she, I think she still struggles to forgive herself because she feels like she missed so much. And, but the thing is, and it's something I wrote in the book is that my mother was there for everything like even though you know she had a severe addiction I I didn't have one of those stories where my mom was missing for days like or didn't feed me or the lights was cut off and she was very protective of you correct no matter what no matter what so like I didn't that wasn't my story necessarily because i know some people who are the child the child of addicts they do have that story
Starting point is 00:47:08 but she was there but she wasn't always present you know what i mean and so i think because she was trying to um you know figure out how to come out of all the darkness she was in i had to figure out ways to navigate around her abuse, her drug abuse. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't know what mood you're going to be in. I don't know what person I'm getting today. I don't know when I come home what dynamic I'm going to find. And so that for me was where the resentment was coming from is feeling like, man, I got to do all this.
Starting point is 00:47:39 You know, I'm trying to be a kid. And it's all this seriousness and darkness kind of around us. And so I think once I really talked to her about it and we've talked throughout the years, but it definitely helped me to understand a lot of the decisions she made. Watching what she went through, did it like scare you away from drugs and alcohol? Oh, I mean, you know, like I've never, ever tried hard drugs in my life. I don't know anybody who's done any of that. I mean, that I know of. I'm not on that scene.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm not about that. I mean, I smoked a little weed like here and there. May have taken an edible or two. Like that's about it. And I do like tequila. But knowing the history of addiction in my family has definitely made me more cognizant of some things. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Jemele Hill. She has a new me more cognizant of some things all right well don't move we got more with jamel hill she has a new book uphill that's out right now we'll
Starting point is 00:48:29 talk to her some more it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with jamel hill yee did your mom forgive her mother did she have that opportunity to have those conversations? So they didn't get to the best place. There was always unconditional love. My mother loved my grandmother fiercely. But when my grandmother made the decision not to believe her about the abuse my mother suffered at the hands of her brother, it was a fracture in their relationship that never healed and um unfortunately even when my grandmother died like my mother was her caretaker
Starting point is 00:49:12 you know like she regardless of whatever state their relationship was in in the moment my mother was never going to abandon and stop loving my grandmother and my grandmother definitely loved her but she herself was somebody who you know, we used to have conversations about this. Like she used to tell me like she didn't really want kids. And she felt she was a very smart woman, you know, and she was really she really wanted a career like the kind of career I had, not necessarily a journalist, but she wanted a career. She wanted to travel the world all these things and she was born in 1925 and so education for black women was not a thing in terms of people thinking that they should be educated or that there was value in that as you know during those times I mean everything that a woman wanted to get financially or any upward mobility came through
Starting point is 00:50:00 marriage and so she was married three times and you know she she had her uh three kids but she was just in many ways trapped in a life she didn't feel like she chose and um I think because of that she wasn't the best parent to um my mother and and to um you know my uncle that she she could have been she struggled a lot they got evicted a lot. My grandmother was a functional alcoholic. They had some trauma, some real issues. She was a great grandmother to me. My mother would still call her a great mother
Starting point is 00:50:34 despite all the troubles that they went through. I just think that my mother never got the grandparent I got. I was asking, is there anything that you decided not to put in the book that she was like you know let's leave this out or I'm gonna take this out other family members are not gonna like this. I know y'all like to
Starting point is 00:50:52 hear the inside y'all know you I know people keep it real on here and the tea there was one thing I cannot tell y'all what it was me and my mother got into a enormous argument about this and the the thing is is that it was the only thing in the book she was because i she got an early copy like an advanced reader copy where you could still edit and change things and she was hot about it and um we had it out and but the funny thing was after our argument she told you told some of her friends about it. And they told her she was tripping. And I had a time to think about it, reflect on it.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I talked to my husband about it. And, you know, the thing when you write a memoir, you're writing about people who really exist. And so you have to be careful, truthful, but careful. You know what I'm saying? So that's why when I talk about the abortion I had, I did not use use the person's real name because I don't know if they've told that story I don't know if his people know or what state that's in and I didn't want to take away that opportunity from him to tell his story his own way so with my mother I had to think about the fact that what is this relationship going to look like after this book and while I didn't
Starting point is 00:52:05 anticipate my mother would stop talking to me or that but it could be a wedge issue and this is in print you know what I'm saying it's forever right so I had to really think about do I really want to do this I can't imagine what it could be because there is so much I tell y'all off here even look your journal. You discussed that. Yeah, oh Jesus. Man, and for parents, let me ask the guys in the room because y'all have kids.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Would you read your daughter's journal if you saw it laying around? I would tell my wife to read it. You would? Really? Because you don't want to read it? Yeah, I don't want to read it but I do think,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I probably would read it. Only because I just feel like there's certain things that we should know as parents. You know what I mean? I would definitely read it. You would definitely read it? And the only reason I say yes is because I've gone through the phone.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Oh. You know what I mean? But that's not the same, though. Yes, it is. Honestly, the phone is like your deepest, innermost thoughts. They could not be true things. It could be just you venting. It could be you just venting.
Starting point is 00:53:00 It's like eavesdropping on a therapy session. But it could be something where something's bothering you that you don't talk about. That's right. And you're thinking about committing suicide or hurting yourself or hurting somebody. So if I can stop that, and maybe you hate me, but hopefully you love me a little more because I was able to stop that. Now, if it's something else, I mind my business and act like I didn't read it. But if it's something where you could have, you know, hurt yourself, hurt somebody else, hurt a classmate. Well, how do you look at it, Jamil?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Obviously, I disagree. And I got my ass whooped because of it. OK. And that was the thing is that because of all the tumultuousness in our life that I needed some place to vent. You know, I couldn't vent to my grandmother because my grandmother did. And that causes friction between her and my mother. I was too embarrassed to vent to my friends and let them in on the issues. Not like I could pick a teacher because that's a double ass whooping coming, right? You didn't have therapy back then. Didn't have therapy
Starting point is 00:53:49 so my journal was literally that. And so there is I think that might be that's the top three frightening moment of my life. When you come home and your mother is sitting there with your journal open reading it. Is that what you think of me? Exactly. i mean that
Starting point is 00:54:06 woman i was like i was like you tried to kill me when she read the advanced copy of the book did it bring you back to that moment oh we oh like it was triggering writing it i was just like okay because that's that's the worst ass whoopin she ever gave me in my life like there's nothing that comes that was abuse it was and then she you know years later she was like you know you didn't deserve them whoopies well can you go back in time and whoop me can you do this but you know it was but she it was it was that was one of our actually most fun conversations because there were details of that that i did not remember and i was like that don't really sound like me because she told me that um well one she was sitting there with my journal and then she was like, that don't really sound like me. Because she told me that, well, one, she was sitting there with my journal.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And then she was like, let's talk about this in the basement. I was like, oh, I'm never coming back. In the basement. In the basement. And she said, that's when I told her that I wanted to go live with my father. I was like, what would possess me to say that? That ab cut you was about to get. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And that's why she bagged up all my shit. And took it there. And took me right to his job and was like why she bagged up all my shit put it in there and took me right to his job and was like she's all yours now and i was like this was a grave mistake on my part yeah but you know i was able to keep a journal later as an adult and i actually had an ex who read my journal too and you better hide in spots that's I mean, people need to not be nosy. How about that? But I guess it's your child.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I understand what they said. But your man? Oh, hell no. Definitely not. All right, we got more with Jemele Hill when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Jemele Hill. Now, my sports question. Oh, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Angelou, Yee, Charlamagne, the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Jemele Hill. Now, my sports question. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Draymond Green, Jordan Poole. Draymond Green punches him in the face. Can Jordan Poole stay there and play comfortably there? Well, and I think this was evident before this incident just because the state, that, you know, go to state is in in terms of their finances. I mean, that's a hell of a check check they're gonna have to write in luxury taxes alone if they decide to to resign um draymond give him a new deal rather and so i think it was probably trending toward him not being there anyway and you know i know draymond um good dude i know people have polarizing opinions about him that was a bad moment obviously now
Starting point is 00:56:27 the only thing I debated with people who called it a sucker punch that was not hey guys I'm Kate Max you might know me from my popular online series the running interview show where I run with celebrities athletes entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:57:29 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new podcast i've been working on with the story pirates and john glickman called historical records it's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone.
Starting point is 01:00:17 The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga.
Starting point is 01:01:18 On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. A sucker punch, right? Like, it's just, there's an aggressive moment that's happening, and I know that's your teammate. And people are like, oh, but, you know, he should have recognized that's his teammate and he wasn't expecting a punch.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Have you seen family members fight? Yes, I certainly have, right? So, I just think that was a really bad moment for him. I think he recognizes that. I think he is honestly remorseful, but I don't see them coexisting. Jordan Poole should have ducked because here's the thing. If you push somebody that hard, you got to expect something in return. Something is coming back.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Right. Yeah. I mean, this is not Jordan Poole's fault at all. But I think because of the finances, he won't be there. They're repeating this year, though. They are repeating this year. Yeah. You know, I was on the fence
Starting point is 01:02:46 at first because I was like, I don't know because this might be one of those. Oh, no, because of this incident. Because this might want to be one of those things that early in the season there's certainly some momentum that you have now, but the season drags on. I don't know how they
Starting point is 01:03:01 respond and are able to play when you have that big of an issue that's kind of right there. But these guys are veterans. I think they're hungry. I think they kind of know it's their last stand. So I expect them to repeat as well. Ben Simmons, Russell Westbrook. What's the question?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Ben Simmons. I mean, who's better? Is that what we do? You're messy. What's the one word that comes to your mind when you think Ben Simmons, Russell Westbrook? Miss. Right? But, you know, honestly, I feel really bad for Russell Westbrook because, you know, especially.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You're just going to jump over Ben Simmons' baguette. No, no, no. I mean, Ben Simmons, I think he's not as bad as people think. You know, and what you hate to see is when you look at an athlete and you can tell psychologically something's going on. Yes. You know what I'm saying? It feels like criticizing him. And this is not to say that he doesn't deserve, you know, some criticism,
Starting point is 01:04:02 but it just feels like he's mentally worn out. That's what he seems like to me. Russell Westbrook is the same thing. Really? Because Russell is clearly frustrated. Russell doesn't want to play this shit. He doesn't want to do that. But now, and this is the gift and curse
Starting point is 01:04:18 of playing with LeBron. It's never going to be LeBron's fault. I'm not saying it is, but the people that play around LeBron, remember how the people used to be on Chris Bosh all the time? It's always somebody that when they play with him, that becomes the target for all the frustration
Starting point is 01:04:33 over losing, over all of this, and it's Russell Westbrook. They have made him the villain of the team. And I'm not talking about the organization itself, but fans. And he's clearly struggling. I kind of agree with what Charles Barkley said. I don't really see the joy in his game like I used to. Like, he's certainly still a great athlete.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But you'd be crazy not to think it's not mentally wearing on him. That he's not thinking about this every time he takes a shot. The fact that the fans are booing him. It reminds me of when Josh Smith played in Atlanta. And every time he took a three-pointer, the crowd would be like, no! It's like, I feel like I hear that every time Russell takes a shot. People are mad. And so to play like that in your hometown, and that's the vibe?
Starting point is 01:05:15 You can't tell me that mentally that wouldn't break you a little bit. That's interesting because I feel like Ben is mental and Russ is just physical. Russ still got that energy and that confidence. I just don't know if he's physically able to play the way he used to. I mean, I sense certainly the energy. I don't mean to make it sound like he's mellowed it in or like that, but it's like a joy that comes to playing with basketball, and it doesn't feel like he's playing with a lot of joy.
Starting point is 01:05:38 No cowboy questions? I thought I was going to get some. We're going to the Super Bowl. I don't need you to tell me that we're going to the Super Bowl. Let's go there. What do you think about my New York Giants? I think the Giants look good. You know, I mean, I'm sure Daniel Jones is thinking about how
Starting point is 01:05:52 he got slandered when they made that pick. The last couple of years he got slandered. Definitely the last couple of years, but they didn't have as good of a team, I think, as they have now. Love Brian Dayball. Like, you know, definitely one of those coaches I've been watching for a while. Great coach.
Starting point is 01:06:07 He felt like he would be a good fit for this team. Look, New York football, Jets and Giants. Robert Salah, I'm a 49ers fan. How'd that happen, by the way? I always wonder about that. How did Jamel Hill end up a 49ers fan? Was he going to be a Lions fan?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. Listen, I value my mental health. How did Jamel Hill end up a 49ers fan? Well, as you... Was she going to be a Lions fan? Yeah. Listen. I value my mental health. And that was... That's what you talk about, Shaw, all the time, right? It's like, mental health is wealth. For my mental health, I was never a Lions fan. And it's crazy because my husband's a huge Lions fan.
Starting point is 01:06:41 He was at the Cowboys game, by the way. Yeah, he busted their ass on Sunday. Busted their ass, Wood. And no, I mean, so my mother, as y'all know from reading the book, you know, she spent some time in Oakland. You know, and that's
Starting point is 01:06:56 where I was, I think, conceived. Okay. And so because of that, she liked the 49ers. And so you know, she would root for the Lions and for the 49ers. She really liked Joe Montana. That was like one of her favorite players. And so I so, you know, she would root for the Lions and for the 49ers. She really liked Joe Montana. That was like one of her favorite players. And so I just, you know, they were winning.
Starting point is 01:07:10 You went with that team. Why would you not go with the winning team? Right? So it's like, well, Greta, you grew up in South Carolina, so y'all didn't have your own NFL team. And a lot of black fans that were not in NFL cities
Starting point is 01:07:23 were Cowboys fans, even some that were. Like in D.C., you know, it's kind of a not so quiet secret. There's a lot of Cowboys fans in D.C., right? And so at any rate, so I just became a 49ers fan. I've been with him, you know, ever since. But Robert Saleh was like a great coach for us. So when he was going through that last year with the Jets, I was like, this dude about to show.
Starting point is 01:07:44 He about to show them. Because he gets players to buy in, certainly from a schematic standpoint. He's a really good coach. What about the Cowboys? What are your thoughts on them? Offense still looking a little rough, Char. We do. Looking a little rough.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But that defense, it's a championship level defense. And this was the kind of defense I wish Tony Romo would have had. That's in no way a shot at Dak Prescott. But people like to, as you know, they like to hate on Tony Romo. But they forget that he had categorically some of the worst defenses in NFL history. And I was like, damn, if they
Starting point is 01:08:17 had this defense with him, y'all might have won a couple. But... The Giants got the second best record in the league. You know who beat them? Y'all go through won a couple, but... They didn't. The Giants got the second-best record in the league. You know who beat them? Oh, here we go. Y'all go through this on a daily basis. I just want to make sure you know who beat the Giants, right? Third-best team?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Just letting you know. Just letting you know. But I like the Cowboys, but you know I ain't picking them over the 49ers. I don't know. Right? But you know we're going to the Super Bowl this year, though. The defense wins championships. We know.
Starting point is 01:08:44 We know that in San Francisco. That's why we had to come to Dallas last year and give y'all a piece. The defense wins championships. We know. We know that in San Francisco. That's why we had to come to Dallas last year and give y'all a piece. That is very true. That is very true. We appreciate you for joining us. Go get up hills.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Out right now. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. I appreciate y'all. Oh, and I just want to say one last thing about Jameel Hill. When I announced my show, she called me in the middle
Starting point is 01:08:59 of the night from Portugal. You were in Portugal, right? No, I wasn't in Portugal, but I was somewhere out of the country. Was I in France? Maybe I was in south of France hanging with this dude dude oh yeah you were here okay so maybe i was but i was gone you were gone no no i went on the night and she was like i just want to say congratulations i was like that is so nice yeah no angela i'm that i appreciate i'm really proud of you for doing your thing and as I wrote
Starting point is 01:09:25 in the note to you in the in the book is that you you know the agency you betting on yourself like that's very not just admirable but it's very inspiring for somebody like me who throughout this this season of my career that's what I've done is like that on myself so I love seeing other women do um you know the same thing is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe, my country, my forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring
Starting point is 01:11:37 stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally
Starting point is 01:12:26 that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay's okay like grace have grace with yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new podcast i've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
Starting point is 01:13:58 nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga.
Starting point is 01:14:39 On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place.
Starting point is 01:15:19 So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thank you. Go get uphill. Jemele Hill, her memoir's out right now. That's right. I'm trying to be a bestseller, y'all. Breakfast Club. Well, Donkey of the Day goes to a 31-year-old man from Connecticut named Forenza Murphy. Let me be the first to admit that this young man is the reason your Uncle Charla, no matter how hard he tries, can't stop saying the word nigga.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Okay? Maybe the adjustment that needs to happen is we don't refer to people as the N-word, No matter how hard he tries, can't stop saying the word nigga. Okay? Maybe the adjustment that needs to happen is we don't refer to people as the N-word, but we just refer to actions as nigga tree. That way they can apply to all races, colors, and creeds. But I'm saying all that to say there's absolutely no way you can listen to this story and not say this, nigga. Okay? Let me hear Uncle Ruckus real quick. Play it for me one time, Red
Starting point is 01:16:25 Let me set the tone I want to play a game Shut up There is powerful n***a at work here Yes, it is Now, Forenza was a fugitive And he was on the run from Connecticut authorities See, Forenza was serving a four-year sentence
Starting point is 01:16:37 On a robbery charge Don't get me wrong One day in prison is one day too long But a four-year bid People will take that scratch in a heartbeat Okay, that's high school term freshman to senior bong four years done okay that's one presidential term long time no doubt but as someone doing 10 years as someone doing 20 as someone doing life how does that compare to four years all right i bet you they'll snatch that four years in a heartbeat but forensic was serving a four-year sentence and clearly he
Starting point is 01:17:03 couldn't stand to be there. Because he was in a halfway house in Bridgeport when he left without permission. Now, what's confusing to me about this situation is if he was in a halfway house, doesn't that mean he was on the way home? I thought the point of a halfway house was that you were halfway home. They send you to the halfway house to get you ready to get back adjusted to society. So just a little more patience, he would have been home. But no, not Forenza. Outside was calling.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And when outside calls, for some reason, niggas pick up on the first ring. Okay? So Forenza Murphy left without permission, and he got caught. Would you like to know how he got caught? Let's go to News Observer for the report, please. According to authorities in Georgia, a man was arrested at his own birthday party weeks after he's accused of escaping a halfway house in Connecticut. Deputies arrested Forenza Rakeem Murphy on Saturday, October 1st, at a family member's home in McDonough. The 31-year-old, who deputies said was serving time on a robbery charge at a Connecticut Department of Correction halfway house in Bridgeport, was there to celebrate his birthday. Murphy was setting up for his party when deputies
Starting point is 01:18:08 arrived after they received a tip. Murphy was accused of leaving the halfway house without permission and had been on the run since August 8th. He was booked into the Henry County Jail and faces additional charges. Jesus, I understand. I understand why you don't want to come back for what a party man not just any party his own birthday party Forenza escaped from jail and then got arrested at his own birthday party police say they got a tip
Starting point is 01:18:36 by tip do they mean invite I'm assuming an invite I can't prove this I have no facts to stand on when I say this. But I know that this party was promoted on Facebook. If it wasn't on Facebook, it was on social media somewhere. I just know it was.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Somebody DMed me the invite. I know they had it. He probably sent it to his close friends. He probably thought he could just send it to his close friends on Instagram and nobody would be the wiser. Probably promoted it as a welcome home party. I don't know. All I know is he escaped from jail in Connecticut and decided to go to Georgia and have a birthday party at a family member's house, and now he's back locked up.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Now, Forenza has been on the run since August 8th. He would have eventually gotten caught, guaranteed. But having a birthday party while you're on the run as a fugitive, I'm pretty sure probably led to him getting caught faster okay forenza all you had to do was that four-year bid and you could have had all the cake all the casamigos and all the chicken wings you want but no you just had to submit to your lower will lower nature, and participate in N-word activities. Please let Remy Ma give Lorenzo Murphy the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw.
Starting point is 01:19:52 You stupid mother f***er. You dumb. And I know Jesus is not coming back. And I'm pretty sure Jesus regrets dying for 95% of you. Okay? So he's not making that mistake again. Alright? And I'm really trying not to say the N-word anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:04 But you have to tell me a word that describes this kind of behavior better. Play Uncle Ruckus one more time, Red. That is powerful n***a-try at work. That's all you can say in regards to a situation like this. But I will start referring to the actions of people as n***a-try instead of referring to individuals as niggas. That's my evolution with the N-word. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Rested in Connecticut, had a party in the A. Who said the A now? See, there you go making that stuff up. All I said was Georgia. Ain't nobody said nothing about A. Sound like the A to me. Georgia's a big place. Could be Savannah. Could be Macon. There's a lot of places
Starting point is 01:20:45 in Georgia you can have a good time ask the party at King of Diamonds I know King of Diamonds ain't that Miami they got one in Atlanta too
Starting point is 01:20:52 oh shout out to Hakanelli don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning the Breakfast Club it's that time again ask Charlemagne
Starting point is 01:21:03 and DJ Envy anything pick it up pick it up pick it up it's time to ask cne morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club it's time for ask c and e if you need relationship advice or any type of advice we're gonna help you out we're gonna get through as many as we can. Hello. Who's this? This guy how old are you brother? Now you're dating a 19 year old girl Lord have mercy This is a great room you just started on this poor young man. So you're 49 and you're dating
Starting point is 01:21:46 a young lady that's 19 years younger? No, no, no, man. Listen, hear me out. I'm 46. Okay. She's 27. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:54 That ain't too bad. Yes, that is. Better than 19. You know, I've been through work and stuff, you know what I'm saying, over time.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And I started digging her. We've been kicking it for about seven months or whatever, but sometimes I be having feelings kind of funny because of the age difference. I don't look my age, you know. Yeah, you sound it. Because you're cracking jokes. You be talking to her, and you be like, you so smart. You a regular Doogie Howser.
Starting point is 01:22:19 She be like, who the hell is Doogie Howser? Who Doogie Howser? Nah, you tell me what you're saying. But if you feel her, who cares what people think, bro? If you feeling her, she feeling you, you just take your Viagra, your Levitro, the blue pill, and just do what you got to do. No, I'm A1 on my end. You lying.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I don't know. You just feel like that sometimes. You got to be yourself. That's your own insecurities because you old as hell and she young and you trying to keep up. You know what I mean? That's your own insecurities. You got to get out your own head if you're going to be with that young girl now. because you old as hell and she young and you trying to keep up you know what i mean that's your own insecurities you gotta get out your own head if you're gonna be with that young girl now i'll see you on that all right well good luck she's gonna leave you though levitra
Starting point is 01:22:53 the blue pill viagra you gotta you know she's gonna leave you because you gotta keep up i need that al green and that henny you riding around with jlx see that al green she want to hit chris brown you listening to al green. I love Al Green. You know what I'm saying? Y'all arguing about whether to listen to the new Act 2 or the Savage Mode 2. You know what I mean? I'm talking about the trees. I ain't talking about no Al Green thing.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Oh, I didn't know y'all called it Al Green. See, that's my old life. I'm sorry. I didn't know that's what y'all call weed nowadays. I didn't know it was called Al Green. I had no idea. That's what they called it back then. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Does she know who Al Green is? Yeah, she was called Al Green. I had no idea. That's what they called it back then. Okay. Does she know who Al Green is? Yeah, she know who Al Green is. She should. No, ain't no should. She think Al Green is a strain of weed
Starting point is 01:23:33 and y'all call it that because the weed is green. She has no idea that that's an actual singer. Right. Good love, brother. I appreciate it, though, fellas.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Like he said, don't let your insecurities bother you, man. If you like that girl, she like you, just enjoy. All right, Good luck, brother. I appreciate it, though, fellas. Like he said, don't let your insecurities bother you, man. If you like that girl, she like you, just enjoy. All right, for sure. Age is too hard to get over. I know that you can't help who you grow in love with. But when you damn near 50 and a woman's just 27 years old,
Starting point is 01:23:56 what the hell are y'all talking about? Seriously. Like, what are y'all talking about? She can't name none of the members of Wu-Tang Clan. Nope. She don't remember no episodes of Cosby Show. Nope. Like, what are y'all talking about? She can't tell you of the members of Wu-Tang Clan. Nope. She don't remember no episodes of Cosby Show. Nope. Like, what are y'all talking about?
Starting point is 01:24:06 She can't tell you about New Edition? Nothing. The only thing she knows about New Edition is the movie she saw on BET. Right. Yeah, she does. That's it. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:24:13 It's Crystal. Hey, Crystal. What's your question for CNE? All right. So I have a sister. We're 14 months apart. Really close. So we went on a trip to the Philippines in December.
Starting point is 01:24:23 But two weeks before the trip I got fired from my job great job didn't was there for 10 years so I never gave her the money for the trip when we came back so I didn't see her I was in my feelings about being depressed you know what's my job or whatever the case was so fast forward she tells me that you know I took advantage of her and I'm like take advantage of you you. You're my sister. Like, we're adults. Nobody, neither one of us well, she's not pressed for this $1,200. And you know, I was just kind of in my summers. I have two kids. I have a mortgage. I lost my
Starting point is 01:24:52 job. And we're in the middle of Corona now. So now she's mad about this $1,200 and she feels that I took advantage of her. I agree with her. No, that's her sister. I agree with her. No, that's her sister. She got a whole lot. Why you ain't give her her money back?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Because she lost her job. She got two kids in the movie. She shouldn't have went to the Philippines then. But the trip was already paid for. Yeah. Clearly it wasn't. No, she paid for it. Did she tell you that she was paying for you or did she pay for it with the assumption
Starting point is 01:25:21 that you was going to pay her back? I was going to pay her back. Things happen. That's my sister. Things happen. She got a job pay her back. Things happen. That's my sister. She got a job. That's right. Your sister got to take that L. She has sympathy for me.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Because she see you out here still buying stuff. She see you out here still living. You still doing something to make her know that you got that $1,200. When's the last time you went out, mama? Well, I just came back from Jamaica. See what I'm saying? I know you so well. I know it.
Starting point is 01:25:48 You should have gave her enough money back before you went to Jamaica. You should be ashamed of yourself. I gave it to her. I gave it to her. Oh, you gave her the money back. I gave her her money back. But she feels that I took advantage of her. But not with just one situation.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Overall, over our lives. But I feel like she's just mean and insensitive, and based off of those feelings that I have, I don't really want to have a discussion with her anymore. I love my sister dearly, but I don't want to be friends with her anymore. You took advantage of her. She should be mad at you.
Starting point is 01:26:17 If you gave her the money back, then she's just being mad at you for being mad. But how long did it take to get her money back? Right before you went to Jamaica? It is kind of slack that you didn't give her her money back. You was just out here balling. Don't you hate when somebody owe you money
Starting point is 01:26:28 and they just out here balling? Y'all are missing it. I have two kids. She has an Audi S7. But you went to Jamaica. She said, I got two kids and she got an Audi S7.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Listen, you wrong. You wrong. I'm being honest with you, you're wrong. But I gave it to her. That's good. So she needs to get over it. You're wrong. You're wrong. She you wrong. You wrong. I'm yawning with you. You wrong. But I gave it to her. That's good.
Starting point is 01:26:46 So she need to get over it. You foul. You wrong. She's wrong. All right, we got more coming up next. So don't move. Happy holidays. Don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:26:54 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. For me. It's that time again. Ask Charlamagne and DJ Envy anything. Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up. It's time to ask C&E. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:27:10 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask C&E. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, you can hit us right now. Hello, who's this? Hello, this is Kenny. How y'all doing? How you kings doing?
Starting point is 01:27:20 What's up, brother? How you doing? Kenny. Kenny? Oh, my bad. Yeah, so what's your question, brother? My question is, I'm trying to spice up my relationship, and it's my girl's birthday. I have two trips.
Starting point is 01:27:31 I have a trip to Delray Beach, Florida, and I have a trip to Orlando, Florida. Do I need to do anything more? Yeah, I mean, it's more than just a vacation, more than just a trip. What you going to do when you get there? You got flowers ready. You got the bubble bath ready. You know what I mean? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:27:45 What are you going to do different to be like, damn, my man really loves me? Like, when's the last time you licked a bunkie? I don't know. I don't know. It's been a while. See? First of all, you don't love that woman because you're taking her to Florida. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all the Florida.
Starting point is 01:27:59 That's a nice spot in Florida, man. You don't love that girl. Charlemagne, I'm taking her to Discovery Cove in Orlando, and then I'm going to Delray Beach. We're going to be in the beach house. Yeah, that's good, man. That's good, man. But you got to spice it up. You got to make sure that you into her sex.
Starting point is 01:28:12 When was the last time you gave her a massage? You licked her from head to toe. When was the last time you did any of that? I gave her a massage the other day. Hire somebody to do that. You see them guys on Instagram that be bear-hugging them girls and cracking their backs? You better not.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Oh, no. I ain't nobody. Nah. Hey, I want to give a shout-out. I want to give a shout-out to the Trap Nerds for coming on my podcast, man. Thank you, Trap Nerds.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Salute to my guys, the Trap Nerds. You can listen to the Trap Nerds podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network, man, and my guys. Now, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:28:39 You talked about spicing it up. I'll tell you what you need to do. You make sure you got your flowers. You make sure you got little things that she enjoys. Maybe things from her past that she just likes. Her favorite nail polish.icing it up. I'll tell you what you need to do. You make sure you got your flowers. You make sure you got little things that she enjoys. Maybe things from her past that she just likes. Her favorite nail polish. Whatever it is. Her favorite slippers. Ain't gotta be expensive. You make sure
Starting point is 01:28:52 you take care of her sexually. But you ain't even shout her out, bro. Don't shout her out. Her side dude might be listening. Listen, what's the occasion? No, no, no side dude. Shout out to my girl, Jazz. Jasmine Williams. I love you, baby. What's the occasion? Birthday and just spice it up.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Just want to show love. All right. Lick the boogie. Make sure you go to Finger Lickin' when you're in Orlando, too. Make sure you go to the Finger Lickin' in Orlando. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Tony. Hey, Tony.
Starting point is 01:29:18 What's your question for C&E? Okay, just a little rundown of what happened yesterday. I just need your advice on what to do, how to handle the situation. Basically, my five-year-old, he's in kindergarten. He was at school yesterday, and I got a text from his teacher saying that he's coming home with a red face. You know, mind you, they eat green faces, you know, when they do good. She said that he's coming home with a red face because he got upset with a little girl at
Starting point is 01:29:48 school because she didn't want to talk to him. And he told her at lunch that he was going to burn her house down. And she said that these days you just can't make remarks like that. And he was sent to the principal's office and she just wanted to let me know and all that
Starting point is 01:30:04 kind of stuff. But I do kind of honestly feel like that that was a bit much. Like, you know, he's only five for one. Like, he's not going to go steal my car and go burn up somebody's house. But how would you handle this if this was your child? Well, I think that he's heard you talk about
Starting point is 01:30:19 them guys' house you're going to burn down one too many times. That's what it sounds like to me. That's what it sounds like to me, ma'am. No, I wouldn't say that. I would just say keep this in mind. It's protocol now. With everything going on in the world and all these mass shootings, it's protocol. Teachers want to make sure they save their jobs.
Starting point is 01:30:35 So no matter what happens, if they hear this, that's protocol of what they have to do. But you just got to tell your son, just look. Like, hey, you can't make these remarks because people take it serious. I know you're not serious. I know this is something you've seen on TV, but you can't say things like that because you can get in trouble. And hopefully he understands that. But you ain't got to worry about it. Yeah, but the teacher got to have more grace, too.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Nah, it's protocol, though. Nah, the teacher got to have more grace. It's a damn five-year-old. You know what I mean? A five-year-old not about to go out and commit an act of arson. Like, the teacher got to have a little bit more grace the teacher should actually reach out to you and be like hey i just want you to know this is what your son said today you know you i don't want to see him getting any more trouble they can't you can't you know but there's cases like there's a case i think
Starting point is 01:31:18 a couple of months ago we had five-year-old bought a school and shot a two-year-old so there's cases like that where they got they gotta follow Now, she might not believe it, but she has to do it just in case to make sure everything is alright. So I'm not mad at the school doing that because they gotta follow protocol. It's not like they took the kid and beat him outside in front of everybody. They just wanna put Yeah, but now that kid got a stain. Like, he got a red
Starting point is 01:31:38 face. And he got a red face and people in that school probably looking at that five-year-old different. Like, watch that one. That one said he's gonna to burn the house down. You know? Exactly. And my thing was, they was in the cafeteria. And the little girl of another color, I'm just going to say that.
Starting point is 01:31:54 White. Supposedly. Yeah, basically. I'm black. My son's black. She just went up and told the teacher. And they never, like, asked him for his side of the story. So basically they're just going by what she's saying.
Starting point is 01:32:08 So I kind of feel bad about that. Question, did he even say that? Exactly, that's what I want to know. I asked him and he said he didn't say that. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I haven't heard you say that he said that. So that's like...
Starting point is 01:32:22 You know your kids. You know your kids or whatever. You know when they're and i you know you know your kids you know your kids or whatever you know where they're lying you know when they're telling the truth i honestly don't think he said that well mama if he didn't say if he said it he didn't say it if you get my drift that boy didn't say that nobody heard him say that don't lie on my kid period period so you need to you need to go to school and have that conversation did y'all hear my son said because my son didn't say it and who you are you going to agree? You going to listen to my black son or that white girl? Who are you listening to?
Starting point is 01:32:48 Because now I'm feeling a little racism. They're going to listen to the white girl. You know that. No, no, not in this day and age. Exactly. Not in this day. Oh, oh, do I need to get my lawyer involved? Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Envy, you just said report the threat. Because I thought he said it. Because you assumed he said it because he's a little black boy. No, I did. I assumed he said it because he never said he didn't say it. He's lying. No, I'm not lying. He heard you say little black boy and he just said that nigga did it.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I thought they heard him. If nobody heard him, he ain't say it. You take that to the grave. Nobody heard him. Nobody heard him with their own ears. Nobody heard him directly. That's horrible. So he shouldn't be punished. He shouldn't be punished. I didn't whoop him or anything and then I texted her back and I was just like,
Starting point is 01:33:23 I do apologize for him making those remarks and it will be handled expeditiously. Thanks. Well, you shouldn't have wrote that. You should have said he didn't whoop him or anything. And then I texted her back and I was just like, I do apologize for him making those remarks. And it will be handled expeditiously. Thanks. Well, you shouldn't have wrote that. You should have said he didn't say it. But I would stick with he ain't say it. Nobody heard him say it. He ain't say it. Period. Period. Alright, mama, have a good one. Alright, we got more coming up next with The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:33:39 The Breakfast Club. Did you know? It's that time again. Ask Charlamagne and DJ Envy anything. Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up. It's time to ask C&E. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:34:00 We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask C&E. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, you can call us. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, this is Anonymous. Anonymous. You do not have to be anonymous on the radio. All you got to do is say another name.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Yeah, you could have made up a name. But what's your question for C&E, bro? We can still search the name. Either way. But look, I was delivering food, right? And I knew the person I was delivering food to. But it was old co-workers and stuff. And the dude,
Starting point is 01:34:26 the boyfriend, came out and started like, what's up with you staying with my girl? And he stole on me. I'm literally delivering food
Starting point is 01:34:32 from my door dash and all that. Dude stole on me. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to figure out should I get restrained on her? Should I retaliate the hood way?
Starting point is 01:34:40 Man, shut up. That man punched you in your face right then and there. You ain't did nothing. You ain't gonna do nothing after the fact. Leave it alone. Why you still go back to that house, bro? That word is born. You better face right then and there. You ain't did nothing. You ain't going to do nothing after the fact. Leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Why you still go back to that house, bro? That's where it is born. You better stay away from that man. Hey, that punch hurt? Hey, did that punch hurt? Nah. Don't lie. Tell the truth.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Tell the truth. So why you ain't hit him back then if the punch ain't hurt? Because it was like Lily stole on me, then Lily just put me in the joke hole. And then... He put you in the dope feed. So he beat you up then. He beat you up. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:35:10 So when you got back up, what happened? Literally, he was gone. Like, you know what I'm saying? So when you woke up, he was gone. Yeah, after you woke up, he was gone. He ain't going to stick around when you've been asleep for 10 minutes. Yeah, he got mad alone, man. In the words of Craig's daddy on Friday, okay, you win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Huh? Man, you ain't going to do nothing. Stop. Why do you want to retaliate? Leave him alone. Exactly. He's got people on his head. What you saying?
Starting point is 01:35:36 How old are you? How old are you? How old are you? How old are you? That's anonymous, too. Well, listen, I was born in 1978. I turned 44 yesterday We come from an era
Starting point is 01:35:47 Where if you lose a fist fight You just lose a fist fight He lost Leave it at that Just leave it alone bro I ain't that old I ain't that old Okay well listen
Starting point is 01:35:55 If you want to retaliate Ask him for a fair one then Oh that's a bet That's a bet He better not do that Nah don't do that Cause he Bro
Starting point is 01:36:02 Trust me bro He whooped your ass one time. That's right. It ain't worth it, because think about it like this, right? Think about it like this. You retaliate, you do something, now you go into jail. If it's a fair one, I'm cool with that, though. As long as it ain't no, like.
Starting point is 01:36:16 He lost this one, and dude put him in a dope fiend. And he just going to get put in a dope fiend again. He lost, but he lost. You going to train before the next fight? Now, look, it ain't no training for this. It ain't no training for this. You need training. It's okay, man. He lost. You going to train before the next fight? Now, look. It ain't no training for this. It ain't no training for this. You need training. It's okay, man.
Starting point is 01:36:30 You need training. Listen, I done got punched on camera, bro. You done seen the can I get a drop. I ain't got no time for retaliation. Who cares? We're too old. Let it go, bro. Yeah, let it go.
Starting point is 01:36:40 People already know who you is. That's even worse. Exactly. I got punched in the head And got seen by millions of people You think I'm sitting around We just regular people out here You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:36:49 Let it go All the more reason For you to let it go sir All the more reason For you to retaliate No why You're going to go to jail You're going to retaliate
Starting point is 01:36:57 You're going to hurt him You're going to go to jail Is it worth it No we don't know if you're going to I doubt you're going to hurt him Okay so let me ask you a question If you go get a fair one You and him just fight straight up If he beat you again Then what Then he's going to hurt him. Okay, so let me ask you a question. If you go get a fair one, you and him just fight straight up.
Starting point is 01:37:06 If he beats you again, then what? Then he's going to go for a third time. I'm going to call it a fair fight. You're going to what? That's honest. I'm going to call it a fair fight. Dude, snuck. All right, I'm going to tell you what to do then.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Because you said you either want to fight again or you want to press charges, right? Oh, ain't no pressing charges. You just said you want to get a restraining order against him. So to get a restraining order, you got to press charges. Oh, that's it. I want you to press charges. No, no, no, no. I'd rather you press charges, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:32 We'll get a restraining order. Yeah, I'd rather you get a restraining order. Nah. You're about to lose your job, and you're about to go to jail for doing something stupid. Leave it alone. That man done beat you up so bad that you wanted to get a restraining order. So I don't know why you acting all tough now. Let it go, bro. Have a good one, man. No, don't hang up on this man yet. You you wanted to get a restraining order. So I don't know why you acting all tough now. Let it go, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Have a good one, man. No, don't hang up on this man yet. You're going to let it go? Maybe. Do you have kids, bro? Nah. Man, let it go. Your mom and daddy going to have to visit you in jail because you're going to do something stupid.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Leave it alone. We win some, we lose some. Let it go. Did your girl see you? Did your girl see you get beat up? Nah. All right, then. So let it go.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Nobody saw it. Nobody even know it. And you anonymous. Nobody knows this happened, bro. If it's not on video, nobody saw it. Let it go. Change the narrative. Tell everybody you beat him up.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Nobody seen it. Word up. You could have caught up here and lied to us. Yes. All right, we'll see. There ain't no we'll see. Don't do nothing stupid, bro. God bless you, man.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Goodness gracious. Sending you healing energy, man. You got knocked the fuck out. The man done hit you and choked you out. You got knocked the fuck out, man. The first thing he did when he caught up here was say, should I get a restraining order or retaliate? You know how bad somebody got to do you if you want to get a restraining order?
Starting point is 01:38:39 Just get the restraining order. Just relax, man. Come on, let it go. Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne, you got a positive note for the people?
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