The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Jess Hilarious, Weezy & Mandii B, Laverne Cox and More)

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

Today we flash back to when Laverne Cox stopped by to talk about her Acting Career, LGBTQ+ Community and more.  We also bring back the moments Jess Hilarious, as well as Weezy & Mandii B were coh...osts on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake up, wake up, wake up! Wake up! You guys really are like the hip hop early morning, late night talk show. Breakfast Club is the most powerful, popular, urban radio show in the world. Made it! Live from the Black Mothership in New York City, it's DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. It's different, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all know what y'all talking about. Thank you, y'all. Be blessed, y'all. I love y'all.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Collectively known as... Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club because sometimes you say stuff and it's just going to get you in trouble. Everybody wake up. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Natasha. Hey, Natasha. I'm from North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:00:54 You're from North Carolina? I got a question for you. Yes, ma'am. Why are you having Russia's car show to North Carolina? You know what? We were supposed to actually bring it to North Carolina this year. I thought you said South Carolina. It's going to do North or South. We were going to actually
Starting point is 00:01:10 do it with North, and we had the babies' cars. It was going to be dope, but actually what happened is the date we were going to do it, PRE, which is Dolph's company, reached out and wanted to do something special for Dolph, so we did it in Memphis. But we're definitely going to hit up either South or North Carolina. I would love to. I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:26 it's such a cold culture. I think it would be great for the city. So we're working on it, Mama. Can I give my friends a couple shout-outs? I want to give my friend a shout-out. Thank you for sending me positive vibes every morning. I love you, girl. Well, you have a good morning, Mama. Alright, y'all. Hello,
Starting point is 00:01:41 who's this? Oh, hello. Hey, what up? Get it off your chest, bro. Oh, what's up, man? I just want to say I love you guys. Y'all the man. Get it? I love you guys, man. And that's it, man.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I just want to say I love you guys. Thank you, King. We love you, too, brother. Appreciate you, brother. You know that. Heartfelt. Oh, I hope OG Rob called this morning. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Oh, she's going to need a... They're going to want to battle you. What? Hello, who's this? Let's see if he calls. Good morning. This is Ben again from Detroit. What up, dog? Ben, what up, dog? Get it off your chest. Hello, who's this? Let's see if he can call us. Good morning. This is Ben again from Detroit. What up, dog?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Ben, what up, dog? Get it over your chest. All right. Hey, I just want to give a shout out to all the single dads out here making it do what it do. Every day is five days for us. Man, ain't no such thing as no single dad. Man, you crazy, man. I'm out here making it do what it do, man.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You want praise for something women do. You a dad. Get your ass off this phone. Damn it, man. Man, I got two birthdays back to back. I'm doing it with Friday. My boy turns four. And Saturday, my other one turns 14.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And I'm doing it by myself. I'm making a deal with a dude. Where the mama went? Oh, they don't get no money on that day. So, it's okay. All right. Well, congratulations's okay. All right. Well, congratulations on being a regular dad. And great, great, great news, man.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You don't get no congratulations. Yeah, because everybody ain't, though. Everybody ain't. You right. Yeah, you can't give nobody no props for what they're supposed to do. No, I don't give you props for what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to take care of your kids. Get your ass in here.
Starting point is 00:03:02 What's the point? Talking about single dads. That was the most. He got two different. That was weak as hell for me. What is Trump? Talking about single dads. That was the most. He got two different. That was weak as hell. That made me mad. Talking about I'm a single dad. Get a girlfriend then.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Hello, who's this? This is Darren. Hey, Darren. Get it off your chest, Darren. Hey, man, I got to get this off my chest. For the last two years, I've been listening to Charlamagne and you. Let me you, but Charlamagne seems like he's pro-Trump but he's acting like he's not on the radio.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Wow, you figured it out. He's pro-Trump because you always say what Biden gonna do, what Biden ain't do, but when Trump was president, what did he do for black people? Not a damn thing. But what's your... But you keep saying what did Biden do?
Starting point is 00:03:46 They figured you out. What is Biden ain biden he ain't fit to be president he's not biden's in office though my brother like you gotta you gotta critique the person in charge yeah if you have a problem with somebody you gotta be able to say it when you say it they'll be like oh you're against nobody why can't we critique the people in charge and how come if we critique the people in charge you either pro one or against one i don't understand that logic but but when trump was president trump didn't do nothing for black people y'all don't never say that y'all always say what fighting ain't doing and y'all know biden tries to do it but the reporter can stop it every time i never said he was gonna do something for black people do you know do you know do you know that there's nobody who's gotten donkey of
Starting point is 00:04:22 the day more in the history of Donkey of the Day than Donald Trump? You know Donald Trump got his own Donkey of the Day intro? Oh, he quiet now. Yeah, don't let him get quiet. Why you let him get quiet, man? He don't go. He's on to you. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:04:36 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Hello, who's this? DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. What's up? OG Rob. OG Rob. We got a challenger in here for you today, OG Rob. All right. Carlos Miller is in here. Now, Carlos Miller now, you know, OG Rob is our resident New York rapper.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He calls every Friday. He always gives us some bars. Right. Charlamagne and myself, we usually battle him. You know what I mean? But you and Chico Bean, y'all brought the old school flow back to the new school. Okay. And OG Rob going on a challenge. All right, let's go. OG Rob going on a challenge.
Starting point is 00:05:25 All right, let's go, OG. Okay, check it out. I said, yeah, they lock and posting up in the same spot. Let me show them how this mobility feeling like jackpot. Making moves, embracing a concrete. Let the numbers speak. They all weak. Stuck on repeat.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Stuck on each other's feet. I keep it low. Fundamentals part of my foundation. No time wasting in body bags or cremation. I'm holding court. Real spill from an OG. I respect the drill, but hip hop is where it's supposed to be. I'm locked in.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Made steaming without my back ends. The two-time finesse. It's a right on right of the lawsuit matching a Tesla. I'm way better. They bar status below average as a known pretender. How the paragraphs just clipped and scrambled. And I'm boss handling. They bought status for low average as a no pretender. How the paragraphs just clipped and scrambled and I'm boss handling a repeat defender. Seal them up, drop them. They return the sender.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Cool winners. Turn the hot summers bringing them pallbearers. OG. This one will be easy. This one will be easy. I don't know. Los look a little nervous. No, man.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Man. Talk to that man. Let's go. Let's go. My turn? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Down south, to that man. Let's go. Let's go. My turn? Yeah, let's go. Yes, sir. Down south, brother, but I always pack heat.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Something you never seen like a clean New York street. I creep in and out like the rats used to. Run up on your block and nobody said they knew you. Nobody. OG Rob. You ain't really no OG. You just an old dude. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Acting like the old me. I'm with DJ Envy. Cause all the DJ's envy when he hanging with Charlamagne. Used to be three people on the show. They cut one and let two do they thing. OG Rob hang up the phone right now. Hang up the phone OG Rob. Hang up the phone, OG Rob. Hey, Rob.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Nah, I ain't going out like that. You gotta hang up the phone, man. OG, Lowe's done walked off. He dropped the mic and walked off, OG Rob. OG, give me some more. He dropped the mic. No, that's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You can't drop the mic off in one round, brother. Damn, all right. OG Rob said he want another round, Lowe's. OG, go. He said he ain't going out like that, over one round, brother. Damn. All right, OG Rafa, he want another round, Loz. OG, go, OG. He said he ain't going out like that, Loz. Okay, bet. Listen, they said stay strapped for lyrical warfare. The underproud prepared me with destruction.
Starting point is 00:07:35 What happened from here? Yeah, let loose on a few counterfeits. Penny pinches, licking the diamonds. More timers creeping through your hood real slow. The slow timers. What do you think this is? A couple of words, just being put together, and some halfway fumble schemes, falling under pressure, whatever, that's not I, I'm not them, I spray shots, circle your block and keep them boxed in, my campaign rolling, marketing budget swollen,
Starting point is 00:07:59 line for line, I'm bouncing and swerving like whips stolen, this just in, something taking place here in the forecast. Can't make it out, but the deep wave is moving in fast. Pick the right way, I left off. No hot sauce, show no remorse. Good for five mics in the sauce. Just call me throwback Petro. When that ABR yellow like the nickel bag from Marcy and Gates to Paul Metal, y'all.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Time. Time. Time. You asked for this, OG Raw. You asked for this, OG Raw. You asked for it. I said don't ask me no questions cuz I'm a problem-solver we pull up with two Chinese girls and to revolve Real cool do reppin the ATL got a whole lot of stuff in my pocket most of is for sale Don't ask me nothing cuz I don't like questions You gotta write down
Starting point is 00:08:45 all your comments, and then text me the suggestions. When you see me out rolling, just know that the block is probably hot. I don't know nothing about who got beat up, and I don't know nothing about them folks that got popped. No snitching. Exactly. Only breakfast club, and we ain't even got
Starting point is 00:09:01 no breakfast. We used to rock heavy ice, big chains, and I ain't even got no nickel. Bars. That's what I'm used to. All right, there you go, OG Rob. Thank you. Okay. Woo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Play with those if you want to. You're talking about the Clues bombs? Work it. I'm going to Clues Rob for Carlos Miller, right? All right. Jesus. All right, shout out to OG Rob. Get it off your right. Jesus. I shot the OG Rob. Get off your chest.
Starting point is 00:09:26 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. The breakfast club. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.
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Starting point is 00:10:41 You know, like, why y'all want to know about my coochie so bad? I know. I'm saying that's what I told you, dumbass. I don't know where the name'all want to know about my coochie so bad? I know. That's where the name came from. If she said, where's DJ Envy came from, I could tell her. If you say,
Starting point is 00:10:50 where's Charlamagne came from, you could tell her. If I said, Charlamagne with the good bunkie. What's bunkie? Y'all know what bunkie is? Y'all in South Carolina, we say bunkie.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Charlton, South Carolina. Is that a booty hole? Bunky, yeah. Okay. And I love that for you. Don't worry about it. You see nothing wrong with that. I just feel like if we would get to my name, you know, I just, you know, I'm a fruitful queen.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Well, since we still got this voice, let me ask you this. Not too long ago, you said you did not want to be ghetto no more. You wanted to be, you know, classier, I guess. You know, where did that stem from? Did that stem from, what, commentators or, you know, spectators, critics? No, no, no, no, no. It definitely didn't stem from, like, commentators or spectators or the popcorn crew. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Honestly, I'm just growing as a woman. I got you. I am growing, you know. And I feel like it's just because I came from the hood don't mean that I forever I have to be you know ghetto ain't nothing wrong with being ghetto you know I thought I just seen the interview you said you wanna you would fart yeah I will fart in the *** off I said that yes you think that's ghetto no I used to say that all the time back in the day that was my thing I used to say you know you suck a fart out of girls butt that was a sign of love and respect
Starting point is 00:12:02 I don't think that's a sign of love and respect. That's a sign of love and respect. Yeah, I don't think that's ghetto. I just think that's disgusting. This is nasty. It's just nasty. I never said I didn't want to be nasty no more. I said I don't want to be ghetto. But if a man wants to suck a fart out my ass, I'm going to let him. I love that. Let's get it. Now, you also said, since he brought it
Starting point is 00:12:19 up and only him, he brought it up that you would like to be on as well. She shouted out to Diddy as well she shouted at the diddy first then she shot up yeah yeah that's the only comparison that that she had to come through because uh earlier you mean that somebody had said that they like to be people you know what i'm saying i thought it wasn't the carisha said and i was showing love i said because she is in supportation yeah supportation at the end of the day i don't know what i might do for somebody that i love yeah like i'm a very submissive queen that's right
Starting point is 00:12:51 that's why i like to talk to somebody with leadership skills because if i talk to a drug dealer he probably had me in the hood and i don't want to do that no more drug dealers have a fantastic leadership skills man they do they do i love drug dealers every i think there's not a drug dealer out here that couldn't have been, especially if you was a kingpin. You could have been the CEO of a Fortune 500 company, too. One day the kingpins broke doors and my daddy was a drug dealer. That's right. So that's okay. But at the end of the day, I feel like, yeah, let me fart in that mouth.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's crazy. What is happening? Are you at least on OnlyFans? Are you getting paid for this? Is that your boyfriend? You know how much I made from OnlyFans? How much? A million.
Starting point is 00:13:21 More than a million. Is the IRS notice? Two million. They know now. They know now. They know now and i paid my taxes but we're not even just talking about only fans we're talking about posters this one viral i'm i'm blessed with one of them good looking cats i don't know what you y'all done seen but yeah like i'm really one of them girls yeah i know you oh you don't know what's
Starting point is 00:13:39 going on what's going yeah because i'm i'm something irregular that you ain't never seen before so i'm gonna get you used to it hence the name Suki with the good coochie. It ain't good for nothing. Listen, you get paid off and that's what happened. Which brings me to my next question. Let's go. Are you still on OnlyFans literally currently right now? I'm not on OnlyFans right now.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I'm focused on my career and that's as an artist and as a TV star. Absolutely. People were mad at you a couple of weeks ago. People were mad at you a couple of weeks ago, right were mad at you a couple of weeks ago, right? Yeah, you want to say that's okay. With L.A. Chopper. L.A. Chopper, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's right. With my hair. I don't know. Did he come on the show? He came on the show. What you saying? What you saying? He said y'all was cool.
Starting point is 00:14:16 No, the fuck he did. He said Soxie did. Now you can lie with your eyebrows. Get into it. He get them threaded. He get them threaded. I thought you said
Starting point is 00:14:23 y'all wanted to do it. I didn't. What you saying? He said I thought you said y'all wanted to do it I didn't what you said he said that he said sexy wanna do it and that's my girl so you didn't wanna do it so basically
Starting point is 00:14:30 what you wanna say is no I'm not the one that said I wanted to do it but I went along with the flow and I didn't want to be a party pooper okay so one thing about it
Starting point is 00:14:39 we on South Beach we in Miami we like to turn up you know and we all outside we twerking on the ground and I don't know who the hell said grab the hair and started it I just like I yeah first no at first I was like I'm not doing it
Starting point is 00:14:52 it's like this cool for others that might be whatever they think but me that's a missive play I was actually having a good time the missus missus play like if I'm here wanna walk me like a dog I'm gonna walk me like a dog I'm walking like a dog I'm gonna whip him with my wig I'm gonna put candle wax on his ass I'm gonna beat his ass I'm gonna stretch his ass little mama had a problem with it and she said something and you responded oh yeah little mama yeah yeah but little mama had a problem with him too yeah yeah I did not make her cry that time you did you made her cry that time you kept saying something about
Starting point is 00:15:27 some type of face you said like what did he say verbatim he said you the queen of the young struggle face it was supposed to be jokes between her and me going back and forth she actually cried when our former co-host
Starting point is 00:15:43 Angela Yee bought up her mother who had just passed away that's what actually made her cry and little mama had said that herself okay no no all right no that's you don't think that the fact what the struggle the young struggle face made her cry a little bit even after her mom and looking at the loss and looking at the way you don't think that you could have chilled and refrained from that comment? I apologize, little mama. Wherever you are, if you see this. Do you even remember?
Starting point is 00:16:08 I don't really. Of course I remember. People bring it up all the time. I can't forget it. I just posted it yesterday. Yes. See? Accountability.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You're right. Thank you. She deleted the tweet. I apologize. Did y'all speak? No, but she had sent me some universe meditation things. And I know she didn't mean she didn't mean Anything wrong. She sent you a scripture. She was trying to give me some healing. Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:39 Could have been personal it could have been personable person alive because it was like a little yeah Like what you say you ain't saying nothing about me farting in these mouths right yeah because she probably did that too she did it i ain't gonna lie let me clear this up i ain't gonna lie i feel like me knowing people i feel like she's a genuine girl no absolutely she just had me that time and she didn't mean to because i just i if i could request i just had her dm me and we could have talked chit chat yeah all right we got more with suki hana when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club just hilarious we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with suki hana now you got you
Starting point is 00:17:23 got three kids right Yeah Is that the reason You said you know what I'm gonna get away From OnlyFans Cause you have kids They go to school And other kids Will be like
Starting point is 00:17:30 I know your mama's You know Suki With a good coochie No no no Like first of all Yeah they They know I'm Suki With a good coochie
Starting point is 00:17:34 Cause I pop out Them kids My kids know I'm Suki With a good coochie What the hell No I was gonna say Cause in school
Starting point is 00:17:39 Your kids know that Cause they know I just You gotta You gotta have Good coochie To pop it out Let me tell you something I love being pregnant I love having babies Because they know. You got to have good coochie to pop it out.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Let me tell you something. I love being pregnant. I love having babies. And I love raising babies. And I breastfeed all of them. I love children. Like, I love my children so much. And they're going to have prominent futures. Whatever they want to be.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Boxers. They want to be a soccer player. Anything I'm going to do. I'm going to do what I got to do to make them that. But I feel like, what it take for me to get that coin to make sure they straight? I'm going to do what I got gonna do I'm gonna do what I gotta do to make them that but I feel like I'm a what it take for me to get that coin to make sure they straight I'm gonna do what I gotta do nobody can't judge me you ever have to check a mom at school for saying something one of her kids no my kids don't go to no public school I know that's right I pay for teachers I pay for homeschool yeah I do
Starting point is 00:18:20 stuff like that because you know my kids are my kids are special like why would I I'm not doing that everybody has their own, my kids are special. I'm not doing that. Everybody has their own reason what they do. But I'm a breastfeeding mom, and I love my children. I have a good support system, a good family. And, like, I have a career, and I take care of my kids very good. I love them. Like, I would do anything for them. Now, as far as my OnlyFans, everybody on Pops is f***ing.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. Do y'all know what y'all moms done did? Girl, if you want to shut up. Did y'all know what y'all moms done did? Them bills was paid. Freak Nick finna tell on y'all. Everything. Mamas, our moms had them bills paid
Starting point is 00:18:59 and they ain't never had no job. They was wearing them chicken cooking dresses. You ain't talking to me, mom. Or Martin Luther King, Malcolm X. They was wearing a chicken cooking dress. Oh, Martin Luther King. Malcolm X. What would they call it again? When it was like a Jezebel Shindig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Jezebel Shindig. They was out there. I like one thing about us. One thing about us. We're going to pop some cat. Cat ain't free. And when the kids need some food, we're going to do what we got to do. That's one thing about black women
Starting point is 00:19:25 we gonna make it's something out of nothing i don't give a we got five cent one dollar we gonna make some shake okay so your daughter get older she said ma i gotta go pop some coochie for a goon to get my baby ain't gonna do that my baby's gonna be my baby's rich right now okay right now right now as a little girl she don't have to work any day of her life she don't have to understand a struggle she don't have to understand what the hood is like and that's and that's what i did my baby won't never have to be in no hood and will ever ever have to work for nobody i'm gonna take care of her for the rest of my life and when i die she gonna be good because that's how a woman that i am maybe ain't gonna have to pop no cat i'm gonna pop the cat i'm gonna pop the cat he just cat okay smooth today you got the contour pop it in let me stop the envy y'all are off the chain speaking of the gusbands
Starting point is 00:20:25 because i want to ask her do you consider yourself gay i don't kiss bisexual what like what i don't do i have to have a name no you don't i don't want one because i seen like the interview that i did and i was just you know trying to explain he kept asking me all these different court jason he kept asking me all these different questions yeah shout out to jason lee but he asked me all these different questions about what my sexuality is and i was kind of talking in circles and i seen the comments and they were like shout out to the people that's real gay and going through the real things. And it was just like, you know, they're so judgmental in the comments. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And that's why a lot of these men are DL. And that's why a lot of these people don't want to come out the closet. I don't consider myself gay. I don't consider myself straight. I love people. I feel like, well, maybe I didn't have a go on a date or be in a relationship. I don't want to say that. I think it's wrong. Right. So let's talk about your music. Yeah. You know, I got that single, uh, Casamigo with Afro beat and I ain't gonna lie. I came to New York
Starting point is 00:21:38 for a promo run and the city, all the DJs, DJ clue and everybody, they been showing me a lot of love and they're telling me that I got a hit. And I believe in it. I believe in it. I'm going to tell you something about DJ Clue.
Starting point is 00:21:49 He's a liar. He says that to everybody. You's a motherfucking liar. He does. You's a liar. I promise you. Yeah, but let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I promise you. He plays the industry game. I promise you because I know under that two-piece that you got on, you got to thong up your ass and your booty hole shaved.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So I'm going to let you be great, but we're going to get back in here. Booty hole shaved? And? And the f*** with that. Because I got a song called Eatin'. And I'm talking about eatin' an a**. But I know an a** that like his a** ain't. And Charlamagne, campaign, champagne.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You going to respect a queen when you see one. I don't give a f*** if DJ Kool lied. God tell the truth. And Casamigo is a motherf***ing hit with them eyebrows on fleek. Suki with the good coochie. On The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:22:58 It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about spinning the block. Now, this conversation comes from Nelly and Ashanti and also Mandy. And I'll be—
Starting point is 00:23:20 Stop it, Envy. At this point, no. I ain't going back. Did it, done it, done. Not having it again. Did it, done it, done. He texting you today. He was like, she on that tequila today.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's single tomorrow. I'm going to hit her up. Nope. She might make some horrible decisions. The number is blocked. Shout out to the ladies who changed the name in the phone. Remove the emojis. Put do not answer.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You can't have emojis by your name if we don't broke up this many times. His name is now do not answer, but he's also blocked. So, boom. So the question is, who you spitting the block? That is the question. Y'all ain't s***. I mean, here's one thing. You want to say 10 years?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yes, Delia DeShanti was 10 years. Do not answer. Yeah, but it's in red. And one is in white. I see one in red and one in white. That's because his name was something else first. It looks like it wouldn't go through if you blocked him, though, right? No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:24:18 That's the thing that just calls when we say that. What's up, bro? What's your name? I'm playing with y'all. Yo, yo, my name is Richie from the park. Hey, Richie. Hey, Richie. We're talking about spinning the block. Is it a good idea if you spin the block after a long time has it worked for you or doesn't work
Starting point is 00:24:28 let's talk about it man i really i really can't get it too too much but i got i got i got these two females who i'm dealing with and every time one of them whenever they're trying to hit me i i spin the block but when i hit them they spin the block too so okay I hit them, they spin the block, too. Okay. So I guess it's a bad thing. Were you in relationships with either of these women, or is this just a sexual spin the block? I was in a relationship with both of them. So what's spin the block look like? Is it like a booty call?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Is it like a little date night? What's it look like for you when they call? Whenever they hit me, I spin the block. Whenever they hit you, you hit? I hit them, but you you when they call? Whenever they hit me, I spin the block. Whenever they hit you, you hit? He said they hit me, I hit it. All right. Thank you, sir. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Mindy. Hey, Mindy. Good morning. How you feeling? I'm good. How are you? Good. You spun the block on somebody after a long period of time?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Actually, he spun the block on me. We dated for like a year. We broke up. He got married. Had a kid. Then he broke up with her to be with me. He wanted to be with me the whole time. I still got Facebook messages from when he was married messaging me. Girl, I feel like you called so she could hear your voice.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Damn. Oh, she very well could. Oh. Wow. you called so she could hear your voice damn oh she's very welcome oh so wait are you with are you with are you with him now and are they legally divorced they are legally divorced we've been together for uh next week it'll be nine years do you okay now you've been a whole mistress for a long time i was about to say charlamagne brought up a saying. I was never a mistress. I was never a mistress. Charlamagne brought up a saying earlier. I want to know if you believe in the phrase, you lose him,
Starting point is 00:26:09 how you get him. Do you think that that... I believe in that, but I didn't give him any way. He just didn't want to be with her. It's a long story. We don't even have that kind of thing. She's a horrible person.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh. And I know that for a fact. We currently have his daughter that they have together. She lives with us. Oh, yeah. You want to tell her this. Damn. So why you say you were never a mistress
Starting point is 00:26:27 though? Because she was with him first. I never was. They were not together. She said she got back when they broke up. I don't want nobody else's man. He wanted to be with me and I got messages where I'm telling him, like, go find your wife. I'm like, where's your wife? Why do we love saying that? Where your wife at?
Starting point is 00:26:44 You replying though. So yeah, so he left his wife for you? Yeah. So y'all never messed around when he was married? Never. Nope. Or you just sitting there lying on a good Friday for no damn reason? I would never.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Charlamagne, don't do that. I actually like you. Okay. You? All right, I'll shut up. Charlamagne, shut up. Later. Later.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Look at her. Well, thank you, Mama. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you. Now, what's the moral of the story? What's the moral of the story, Mandy? I say if you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, it's yours.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Nah, you let it go. It might not ever come back. Don't let that thing go. That's not true. What's for you, don't miss you. Oh, there we go. What's for you, will not miss you, yo. So I'm saying this with a little bit of projection
Starting point is 00:27:24 because there's a lot of times that i've had to let someone go to really see if it's worth it and if they come back great if not then that wasn't the person for me y'all don't believe in breaking up the making up though what no what mephiman and angela wrote that beautiful song for no maybe every time every nine ten eleven was it better every time oh yeah yeah it was good because then i'll break up the makeup in there by mephiman and d'angelo probably not i'm sure we don't have that we probably got all you need we got all you need that ain't the same that's that's that's for uh people who never broke up i do love some i want to get that oh my god i want to just role play a breakup shut up
Starting point is 00:28:03 it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club Oh, my God. I want to just role play a breakup. Shut up! It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down.
Starting point is 00:28:11 We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down.
Starting point is 00:28:13 We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We're trying to keep me down. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host with us this morning, Miss Jess Hilarious. That's right. And we have our special guest. First time here.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yes. Thank you for joining us, Laverne Cox. Welcome. Thank you.. Yes. Thank you for joining us, Laverne Cox. Welcome. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am so excited to be here in all of my multitudes. We're happy to have you here. Yes. Why did you think you were banned?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, who lied and said you were banned? Yeah, who said you were banned? That's what Jason said. He said we had reached out last year when my Barbie came out. I was like, it would be great to come onto The Breakfast Club and talk about the Laverne Cox Barbie. I'm the first trans person to have a Barbie. And I think this audience is really valuable. I was talking to Jason about this.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And I think there's, I don't like to say there's white media and black media. But like a lot of the work that I've done, the audiences have been diverse. But it's been a majority white audience. I'm working at E! now. And it's definitely a diverse audience there. But this is a black audience. We're happy to have you. And I'm black, and I love being black.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And this black excellence is, I'm doing things out here. And I think that it's important for this audience to know that. So many of us were introduced to you when you were acting on Orange is the New Black. Yes. I told you when I first met you at the iHeart Music Festival. And you were backstage, and I came up to you, and I was like, yo, I'm a fan. I still love Orange is the New Black. Yes. I told you when I first met you at the iHeart Music Festival and you were backstage and I came up to you and I was like, yo, I'm a fan
Starting point is 00:29:27 because I used to, you know, I still love Orange is the New Black. Thank you. So acting is what you really, really want to do? Is that your passion? It absolutely is and I'm still acting.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Last year, a lot of people saw me in Inventing Anna, which was a huge show on Netflix. I played Casey Duke in that. I have a guest spot in something that I can't talk about yet, but it's really cool. And we're prepping to do a
Starting point is 00:29:47 show with Norman Lear, the legendary Norman Lear, called Clean Slate. George Wallace, the legendary comedian, plays my dad. It's set in my hometown of Mobile, Alabama. It's a comedy, and it's about this woman who goes back home and tries to reconnect with her dad after
Starting point is 00:30:03 many years of being away. So we start shooting that in Savannah like next month oh my god I don't think this era ready for Norman Lee a comedy Norman Lee is the Jeffersons and good times well they ready one day to time did really well and he has he has new shows Norman is a hundred years old and he's still producing shows and people are watching yeah so as long as they watch and we're gonna as long as they're watching yeah norman is amazing he is getting to know him and just being in a room with him when we pitched the show to him was just iconic we sat in the room with him for like 90 minutes and after the meeting he said he was 96 at the time he said i learned more about life in this last hour that i should have known that I didn't know and I'm so grateful and we
Starting point is 00:30:47 started working together on pitching this show and it took years and now here we are I want to go back for people that don't know this is Laverne Cox first time on a breakfast club yes so how did you get into acting what made you want to act what got you into that mind frame as a kid I've always been a performer so I started as a dancer so I I'm 50 years old. So back in the day. Damn. I mean, but that's good. That's really good. And so I started studying dance in third grade, but I always knew I wanted to act, that I would transition to acting. And when I got to college, I was a dance major at Mary Mount Manhattan College and started acting there. So I've been acting since college and did my first
Starting point is 00:31:23 movie my senior year at Marymount in 1996. So you knew that's what you wanted to do. I always knew. But then I finally accepted being trans when I was in 1998 and started transitioning. And I was like, well, there aren't any trans actors. So I don't know if I can't really be an actor and be trans. And so I went to fashion school for three semesters and went to FIT. And then I was like, I don't really want to do this.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I love fashion, but I don't want to do it. And then I did a few more movies, just auditioned and got a few independent films. And then I started training seriously with this woman named Susan Batson, who is an iconic acting coach. But finally, 20 years after I moved to New York, I got my big break in Orange is the New Black. How was auditioning for that? At first, I'm sure people didn't necessarily say, I don't know if Laverne fits this. Or how difficult was thating for that? 20 years, wow. You know, at first, I'm sure people didn't necessarily say, I don't know if Laverne fits this, or how difficult was that being turned down?
Starting point is 00:32:10 I mean, it was years of no's. I mean, the reason why it took 20 years is that there were no roles for me. So at Susan's studio, she would have industry nights, and I would audition for casting directors and agents, and they'd be like, you're very talented, but there's no roles for you. You're trans.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It's like, maybe you should move to L.A. And so it was constantly that. And every once in a while, trans something or drag, You're very talented, but there's no roles for you. You're trans. It's like, maybe you should move to LA. And so it was constantly that. And every once in a while, a trans something or drag thing would come up. And a lot of times in the beginning when I was auditioning, it would say drag queen, but I would just go in and they didn't know the difference between drag and trans. And I would book or I wouldn't book. And so for years, there just weren't roles for me. And so when the Orange is New Black audition came along, I actually was going to stop acting.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I turned 40 that year. So this was 11 years ago. It was 2012. I turned 40. The big break hadn't happened. I was like, well, girl, you're 40. You're black. You're trans.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Who do you think you're kidding, thinking you can do this? And I was studying for my GRE to go to grad school. I was in student loan debt. It was a mess, girl. I was in rent arrears. I was on a payment plan to avoid eviction from my apartment. I love you looked at him being it's a girl right when i say i love that girl is girl is gender neutral so girl is gender neutral like a lot of people say dude and it's gender neutral girl is gender neutral for me it's everybody's girl i saw that girl all the time. He caught that girl all the time. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:26 But the great thing about when the Orange audition had happened is that even though it was a struggle, I had been in acting class every week because I loved it. And this is what I say to people. If you want to be an actor and you don't love it, you should do something else. Because you're going to be too old, too young, too short, too thin, too trans, too black, too white. And so all the rejection, I kept loving it. And so I kept, even though I kind of gave up hope, I kept going to class because I love acting.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And so when the audition came along, I did the audition, I booked it. And then this juicy role came along and this beautiful writing and I was prepared. I was ready because I trained. I had done independent films for free student films for free I did everything I could to get experience and so when this opportunity came I was ready and I and and I loved the Oprah says this thing is luck luck is only when preparation meets opportunity and when my opportunity came I was prepared and I'm still here and I still love what I do and I got I get to do so many different things now I love that I'm an actor but
Starting point is 00:34:28 I also get to host red carpets and I have an interview show amazing that's what I want to ask you like one more than the other do you like being in a live red carpet space more than you do like what I love it I didn't think I would when they and when he approached me I was like well I'd hosted their countdown show in 2020 and had a lot of fun doing it. And then they asked me to, you know, be their new red carpet host. And I was like, do I want to do this? And will people forget that I act?
Starting point is 00:34:52 And acting has always been that, even though I've always done a lot of different things, I know that I'm an actor first. And that's what I prioritize. And that's why people even care about me. But I love it. At the Grammys recently, I interviewed machine gun kelly and he came to the carpet really vulnerable it was intense i was like what's going on here it was a different energy than i'm used to crowd i think and he was he was really emotional he found out in the car on the way way there that he lost the grammy and he was planning to win and he would he built up
Starting point is 00:35:23 basically he said that he had built up like all of this, I'm going to prove people wrong. And I'm going to be valid now because I've won this Grammy. And he didn't win it. And he actually had the courage to be vulnerable and admit that on live television. And it was a beautiful, raw moment. And I love being able to hold space for that. I have a show with E called If We're Being Honest that's on Peacock. And it's an interview show.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I get to hold space for complexity, for people's humanity. We laugh. We cry. This is the stuff I love where we can have real moments with the guests I'm speaking with and then hopefully the audience. I wanted to ask you about the red carpet thing because I wanted to ask you, what did you learn in the moment with Will and Jada? We love you. Thank you for all the years of joy you've brought us. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:11 We can't wait for more Red Table Talk and more entanglements. No more entanglements. No more entanglements. After you received the backlash and everything, what did you learn? I learned that the world was not ready for the evolved relationship that they were presenting us. Because when I, you know, I just jokingly said, you know, we're looking for more entanglements. I love Red Table Talk. I love this mess. And people thought I was being shady.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I talked to Jada afterwards. She was fine. She thought it was funny. But the world interpreted it as mess. I feel like their intention was for us to see a different way to do relationships that wasn't like this traditional thing. And the world made it into mess. Traditional, heteronormative, monogamous ideas about what a relationship should look like. I think everyone can do relationships
Starting point is 00:37:05 on their own terms and should do relationships on their own terms. And I think they're doing that. And the people just don't get it. All right, we got more with Laverne Cox when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of
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Starting point is 00:38:23 We're still kicking it with Laverne Cox. And our guest host, Jess Hilarious, is here. You know, being a comedian, we often speak on things. Nothing is off limits. You know what I'm saying? We speak on things that people in these days and times may take a total different way than we're trying to put it out there has do you think that because a comedian has a joke um about lgbt that they're homophobic like do you like what are your thoughts on that because i got a lot of jokes about the lgbt but i have a lot of jokes about straight people too yeah i everybody i think it's really complicated.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I interviewed Cameron Esposito on my show, if we're being honest, and Cameron's a non-binary stand-up comic, and Cameron thinks you should be able to joke about anything. Right. But Cameron also said that a lot of comedians who have problems, who are saying they're always being canceled
Starting point is 00:39:22 and they aren't allowed to joke anymore, aren't used to getting feedback.-hmm so so so there's that piece and I think too that one can say something or do something that may be homophobic or racist and not be racist right but there's a difference between I am like a statement of Brene Brown distinguishes between shame and guilt is shame is I am a mistake and guilt is I made a mistake. Right. So I think that's an important distinction to make that someone can unknowingly say something or do something that's transphobic and not be transphobic. I was on set for a show that I was doing many years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And one of my coworkers who I adore and we're still friends to this day said the T word, the T word that ends with a Y and I wasn't, I wasn't upset by it, but I was like, I understood in that moment that this, my coworker didn't understand that a lot of trans people, if you said that word would have a problem. So it's just like something just like with racism, right?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like, I could think somebody can do something racist or say something racist, not necessarily intending it in a certain way. They're words that we might not even know are problematic. And we just don't know. But it is racist. It is transphobic. I mean, for you, it's a comic. I mean, have you been criticized or critiqued for some of your lgbtq definitely most definitely but how did that make you feel it made me i was mad i was very upset
Starting point is 00:40:51 because i'm like how can you say i'm homophobic homophobic because of this and because of that and then and then it comes the thing of like if you say oh yo you know my brother gay oh i got a gay best friend then they still put you in a box like, oh, that's like saying some of my best friends are black. And you get misgendered a lot, Jess, which I hate. What? You get misgendered a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. People always, you know, say I was born a man and all that.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And I hate that. How does that make you feel? How does it make you feel? When people misgender you as a non-trans woman? I honestly have never got upset. I actually started putting it in my jokes, but it's other people that get upset for me. A lot of black women get upset about that.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, I'm going to be totally honest with you. I got upset that I caught this guy. He was LGBT. He called me the T word that ended with a Y. And I called him the F word. And I felt like... But it was blew up because I said... I felt like, all right, slur for slur.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And he's like, oh, you know, everybody's like, you're not a part of the community. You can't say that. Well, it gives him the right to tell me that I'm a T word. Like, you can't do that. Did he know that you were he was being smart he knew exactly that I was a woman that you know that
Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm born a woman am a woman but like you hit me below the belt and you weren't saying it because you were you really thought that you said that because you knew that oh yeah there's a I think it's it was it um one of the city girls who just has a lyric about pretty transgender.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It shouldn't be an insult to say that someone, I mean, look at me. It shouldn't be an insult to say that someone looks trans. Trans is beautiful. Right. And I think, too, when in that moment moment using that f slur you were mad i was like for me i decided many years ago i had an incident in a gay club and i was um i was co-hosting uh an event and i used the f word i said use some loud f words this was years ago after the show these two black gay men came up to me and read me for they read me for filth and i'm
Starting point is 00:43:06 there with my friend ari may he rest in peace and i'm like no we're reclaiming that word and i'm trans and they were like not having it and i talked to my friend ari and i was self-righteous i was like we're reclaiming that word we're taking the power away from that word and ari was like absolutely then i talked to my brother my brother identifies as a practicing homosexual he doesn't like the word gay he thinks it's a white bourgeois construct and he prefers the idea of practiced orientation anyway we're twins
Starting point is 00:43:34 and I talked to my brother about it and I expected my brother to be like yeah they were crazy and they were wrong and my brother was like that's not your word to reclaim and I was like but no but no and he's like that's not your word to reclaim and then he said it a third time then I started crying yeah because I had to admit that I said something that was hurtful I saw the hurt in their eyes I didn't I immediately became defensive and that defensiveness I get but that uncomfortability
Starting point is 00:44:02 that moment of sitting with like, I hurt somebody and I didn't intend to, but I hurt somebody. And that felt awful. Do you ever get tired of being, I don't want to say the face, but the person that everybody comes to when there's a joke that people don't like, or when somebody says something in a lyric or a movie, do you get tired of that? I'm not anymore there's so many more of us and what I what I love
Starting point is 00:44:28 about my career and what I'm really proud of is that I'm the first openly trans person to be nominated for an acting Emmy but I'm not the last I'm the first trans person to be on the cover of Time Magazine but I'm not the last there's so many more trans people with the platform now what I am frustrated by
Starting point is 00:44:44 with these legislative attacks against trans people now is that people aren't talking to enough trans people with the platform now what i am frustrated by with these legislative attacks against trans people now is that people aren't talking to enough trans people there's like lots of pundits and people who like talk about trans issues without a trans person in sight there used to be a time i'm old enough where you know people would talk about trans issues and actually bring on trans people to talk i can't what i've learned is I can't speak on every issue because it's exhausting. This stuff is also traumatizing. Transphobia is traumatizing. Racism is traumatizing.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Misogyny is traumatizing. And I can't live in that space. I can't live in that space all the time. And I know that 2020 taught me that too. I'm honored that I've been chosen, I think by a power greater than myself, to be a vessel for all of the visibility that trans people have now and i it used to feel like a lot of pressure and i used to feel this obligation to speak up about everything and now i pray to god that like
Starting point is 00:45:38 i'd say thank you but i'm like can i wear this light more lightly and with more joy and i'm getting there i'm? And I'm getting there. I'm in and I'm getting there by staying in the love. I do want to ask, um, because we're talking about it when it comes to gender identity. Should we let kids wait until they are older to make that decision? Because I know that's a big, it is a big conversation right now. And what I say to that is that if you are not a trans child or have a parent or a parent of a child who thinks they might be trans, it's none of your business. I think what has been happening with the GOP specifically now and all the like, we have to protect kids, kids in sports, kids, this, kids, that. It's never been about kids.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's always been about stigmatizing trans people. There's a law in Oklahoma that was just introduced that would ban gender affirming care up until the age of 26 this tells me what i've already always known that's never been about kids it's about making trans people not exist donald trump just made a speech saying we need to ban gender affirming care for everybody he said he may have misspoken he misspeaks a lot but he said we need to ban it for everybody. That is the plan. So I think when we are talking about someone else's access to health care or bodily autonomy, it's nobody else's business whether they're a child or an adult. The American Academy for Pediatrics, the American Medical Association,
Starting point is 00:46:58 the Endocrine Society have a set of protocols, and they're all well-respected for treating trans kids, and that should be handled by doctors not legislators not people who are not involved all right well don't move we have more with laverne cox when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning still kicking it with laverne cox and our special guest host is here just hilarious charlamagne you know i'm glad you're here because we can even help just unpack another little bit of trauma that she went through remember just i saw you say this on the don't call me white girl podcast yeah there was a guy hollering at you yeah and you was trying to
Starting point is 00:47:29 fly yeah try to fly you out i wasn't i wasn't into him i thought you said you was trying to fly you out okay there was this guy he's known everybody know him he's a singer my family i didn't know that part i didn't know the singer but yeah i'm trying to holler me to get the ones that will act like they didn't but yeah he DM to me and he was like he wanted me to have sex with him have said yeah have sex with him but he wanted me to bend him over because why don't you strap on no he thought i had that already came like that he thought that you were a trans woman who had not had surgery and he really wanted this experience and he didn't know he hit me once no girl after the show you need to tell me who it is
Starting point is 00:48:17 i might know who it is girl look and she might not even be shocked but the thing is these things don't surprise me no and i And I was like, wow. And this was traumatizing for you? No, I just was like, no, it wasn't. It was not. Charlton, you're a mess. No, but when I tell you, it don't mess. Girl, you're a mess.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Because for the rest of his life, he was trying to insult me. He just literally thought that I was, you know, so I wasn't. He thought you were trans, and so he was really wanting. I wasn't upset at all. And when I seen the money, I was like, dang, I wish I did have one of those. Because he was all about the money. He thought you were a sex worker.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yes. He thought you were a sex worker. He thought you were trans. People often assume that trans people are sex workers. We're not all sex workers. There's other things we can do. And this is not to you know demean sex work we we you know we're sex workers should be decriminalized and all that
Starting point is 00:49:10 um wow but and when i told him and look and when i was like okay so no i am you know woman he was like oh damn all right well see like it was like you can still fly me out for the money if you but no he didn't want it very specific yeah very specific and he wasn't disrespectful after he wasn't and i wasn't about to put that up you know none of that but he was really like i wouldn't say disappointed but it was like oh sounds like he was disappointed you're not yeah all right i think like we have to you know i it's and it's tricky to talk about sex uh with trans folks because we're often sexualized. And so to have an adult conversation about sex and sexuality and not, again, to elevate the humanity of trans people.
Starting point is 00:49:56 This is my work to elevate the humanity of trans people. But there are straight identified men who enjoy being pegged, having a woman strap on, who enjoy a trans woman who might, you know, give them that pleasure. And they still identify as straight because she's still a woman. Right. So I think that like a more evolved conversation that a lot of people aren't ready for is that a sex act does not define your sexuality. Nobody can tell you who you are. OK. Nobody can tell you who you are. Nobody can tell you who you are. So you, people, sexuality exists on a spectrum.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And I think it's like really problematic when we find out that someone enjoys something sexually and then we start telling them that they are gay or start telling them of their sexuality. It is not our business to tell somebody their sexuality. If they're in the closet, if they're in denial, that's actually not our business either. Right? So there's too much of that.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I think we can allow, and people are doing all sorts of things sexually, and I think it's all wonderful. I think it's great. Live your life as long as it's consensual. Right. And everybody is an adult. And it's great. Live your life. As long as it's consensual. Right. And everybody is an adult. And it's great.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And I think that, like, it's an advanced concept, but separating a sex act from someone's sexuality, I think it's something that's very evolved that I would love for people to be able to do. So, Charlamagne does a sex act to me. No, I just love the fact that there's potentially a... Wait a minute. He does a sex act to you? I thought I said if Charlamagne does a sex act to me, that doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. That's what she's saying. Charlamagne does a sex act to me, that doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. That's what she's saying.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Charlamagne does sex acts, but not regular other people. I just love the fact that a trans woman potentially took one of Jeff's prospects. That's what I appreciate. That's what I appreciate. He found the girl. Don't try to see one of me. Don't talk to Jeff. He wanted me.
Starting point is 00:51:41 He wanted me. He didn't know that I was. He didn't want you. He still wanted me to this day. You could have been like, I could strap on. Did you offer that? Yes, because the money.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You did. How much money was it? How much was it? $50,000. Oh, girl. I was like, what? And listen. There's a man offering $50,000.
Starting point is 00:51:57 The girls. Okay, you need to tell the girls who this is. The sex worker girls out there. There is a man, a singer, offering $50,000. And they better give me a piece of that. How old is he? Oh, he's like, he's over 50.
Starting point is 00:52:12 He's like, this was like, somebody we listened to back in the day. Hey, stop. Don't do that. We're still listening to them right now. $50,000 for girls. A lot of girls can use that. And so I did. I had to talk it over with my best friend. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:52:27 It's so good. It's so beautiful to be a black trans woman and not need that money. It's so beautiful to make my own money. Can we talk about this, please? Yes, Barbie. Yes, can we get the Barbie? Can we talk about Barbie in the same conversation
Starting point is 00:52:45 that we were talking about this? Will Mattel be okay with us having that conversation and then talking about this? Let's woosah, woosah, woosah, woosah. I'm sorry, Mattel. I want to know, how did this doll come about? Was this a dream of yours? How did it happen?
Starting point is 00:52:56 When I found out Ava DuVernay had a doll, I was like, I want a doll too. When I said to my manager, Paula, I was like, I want a Barbie. And like, I don't know if he reached out, but like several years later, if he reached out but like several years later mattel reached out and said we'd love to do a barbie and we're doing a tribute collection and i said absolutely it's like it was a dream and it was i have a i've talked a lot about
Starting point is 00:53:15 this when the barbie came out but when i was a kid i wanted a barbie and my mom did not allow me to play with barbie she it was forbidden and i was in therapy and i told that story to my therapist and my therapist said you can it's never too late to have a happy childhood you can reparent that inner child i think you should go and buy yourself a barbie did you and play with her i absolutely did i bought a barbie played with her i dressed her and it was healing and then i told my mom about it and then my mom started sending me barbies it's always missing oh really my mom started sending me barbies god It's always missing. Oh, really? Then my mom started sending me Barbies. God, this...
Starting point is 00:53:46 I'm not going to cry on The Breakfast Club. Black Barbies? Absolutely. She started sending me Black Barbies and it was just this wonderful... We all have a little kid inside of us that needs attention, that needs healing. And, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 She's been, I've been taking really good care of my inner child and Barbie has been a huge part of that. And so what was so exciting for me about having my own Barbie is that other people can have this space of whatever age you are to like reparent your inner child or and have and know that you can be trans or non-binary and that like you exist.
Starting point is 00:54:26 It's my last question. I guess it's more like, even though it's a statement, I guess the challenge I have as a personality is I often wonder what's more impactful, right? Because you're Laverne Cox to me. You're not transgender actress Laverne Cox. You're Laverne Cox. You got a lot of things going on.
Starting point is 00:54:38 So I wonder what's more powerful, just having you on a platform like this and just having a conversation about everything that you're doing or allowing you to speak to your transness. I can do both. Find a girl who can do both. For me, it's like just living my life.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I'm 50 years old, living my life. I worked in restaurants in New York for 20 years. I did not go to the restaurant talking about my trans since when I was working in a coffee shop. I just went to the restaurant and I was myself and some people knew I was trans, some people didn't.
Starting point is 00:55:10 But they got to know me as a human being. And that was the most powerful thing ever. When I'm on set, I'm not educating people or doing diversity and inclusion training.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm doing my job. And showing up and doing me has been the best way. So I think it's like, it's about our humanity. Yes. I'm doing my job. And showing up and doing me has been the best way. So I think it's like, it's about our humanity. Yes, I'm trans, but like, I'm so much more than that. And every trans person is so much more than that. And just our humanity. Like, we've always been here.
Starting point is 00:55:37 We've been second class citizens. If we're going to acknowledge that these folks are here, let's just like respect them and let them be. And it shouldn't affect you it really shouldn't and i think that like i feel like a lot of men who get upset about trans women it's like they want to be misogynist and they want to like holler at a girl and know that she was assigned female at birth and they get upset and it's like that's not my problem if you're attracted to me it's not like my problem that you
Starting point is 00:56:05 clicked swipe right on me on a dating app like it just unmatched and move on it's like people get so and and then i think for a fault i made you jump right you know what i'm saying hell laverne cox ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us check out if we're being honest with laverne cox on peacock yes yes and oscar And Oscars red carpet. That's right. March 12th. That's right. March 12th. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 00:56:28 We appreciate you. And don't be a stranger. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. It's Laverne Cox. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. When it's time to get
Starting point is 00:56:38 with someone special, the best way to do it is with Magnum large-sized condoms. That gold foil wrapper is a badge of honor and it means you're protected and you take care of things with comfort.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Accept no substitutes. Bring the pleasure with the gold standard. Magnum large-size condoms. Bam, the hee-haw again. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I ain't trying to be Donkey of the Day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things.
Starting point is 00:57:08 It's called Donkey of the Day, and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Solomon, who got the Donkey of the Day today? Well, just hilarious. Donkey of the Day goes to Stefania Santabria. She is a 50-year-old fifth-grade math instructor. Listen to what I say. 50-year-old fifth-grade math instructor. Listen to what I said. 50-year-old fifth-grade math instructor.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Math. Math. Okay, the area of knowledge that includes the topics of numbers, formulas, and related structures, shapes, and spaces. Okay, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:36 five plus five, six times two, eight divided by four. We all know what math is. And when you're in fifth grade, those students, you know, they focused on adding, subtracting, multiplying, and dividing whole numbers, fractions, decimals.
Starting point is 00:57:48 You know what I'm talking about? OK, well, Stefania Santabria, the fifth grade math teacher, faces charges including strangulation in the second degree, risk of injury to a minor and reckless endangerment in the first degree. How did we get to that equation? OK, what plus what equal strangulation in the second degree risk of injury to a minor and reckless endangerment in the first degree well let's go to abc7 new york for the report please okay liz usually when we hear about chokeholds in the news we're hearing about something that police are not supposed to do because it's dangerous well in this case a teacher who was working as a math coach is accused of putting a fifth grader in a chokehold. Now, this was supposed to be educational, a demonstration, but the school district says that student fainted. Letting us know that a staff member there, a math coach, had rendered one of the students unconscious.
Starting point is 00:58:38 According to the police reports, it happened while teaching a group of fifth graders a defensive jiu-jitsu move and demonstrating on three of them. Someone alerted the school nurse. The student regained consciousness. It says the report's within seconds. Any idea how it came to be that she was teaching them martial arts when she's a math coach? You know, so the investigation is still ongoing. We're not sure exactly why she decided to do that. An investigation that resulted in an arrest a week later of 50-year-old Stephanie Sanabria at her home in Danbury. She's facing serious charges, strangulation, risk of injury to a minor, and reckless endangerment.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Ma'am, ma'am, you're supposed to be a math teacher, not math hoffer. Hello? Okay, this is what I've be trying to explain to my wife. I don't understand this new math at all. Okay? Now, I'm all for teaching kids how to defend themselves, but I'm also all for everyone staying in their damn lane. If the class is math, if the subject is math, if you are indeed a math instructor, then why the hell are you teaching my child how to do a rear naked choke hold? Okay?
Starting point is 00:59:40 You're supposed to be teaching calculus, not the camel clutch. You're supposed to be teaching my child how to do fractions, not thinking for leg locks. OK, this is the problem with the era we're in. Everybody thinks they're an expert at everything. Nobody is actually in alignment with their actual purpose. OK, when you see a math teacher teaching kids how to do Ted DiBiase's million dollar dream, then best believe the math ain't math. Now, we are parents in this room. Tamar, what do you do when your child comes home and says her math and script to put them in the crippler crossface?
Starting point is 01:00:07 Oh, pray for me. And somebody go get my bail. Oh, baby, it's going down. Yeah. I would have to have that math teacher teach me so I can teach her. Yeah. And B, what about you? Well, female teachers, they got to deal with Gia.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I'm sure Gia will put her in the Brooklyn headlock somehow, some way. Knock her right out. Gia put you in a chokehold before, right? She did. Yeah. And I almost passed out. Like, I was tapping the side. Really?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, so now we can't play flight anymore. Because she had me in a lot, and I couldn't get out. And I was dying. And I was dying. It's not funny, though. Dropping the Clues bombs for Gia. Don't you do it. Don't you stop the bomb!
Starting point is 01:00:45 That's a shame. Maybe you can't beat nobody in this house. Not gear, not Logan. Like, nobody can take. I can take Peyton. She won. Okay. Now, I will shoot this teacher a little bail.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Maybe she's been seeing all these teachers online getting beat up by kids, so she was doing some preventative measures. She just had to let these little kids know that she knows a little something something just in case one of them get too sporty. Okay, sometimes you got to show people your strength so they know not to play with you. But here's the thing, Ms. Math and Scripter, when playing with other people's kids,
Starting point is 01:01:14 or should I say when causing harm to other people's children, you need to ask yourself one simple question. Why is the math book sad? I repeat, why is the math book sad? repeat why is the math book sad because it has too many problems and that's exactly that's exactly what you're gonna have and deserve to have putting other people's kids in the cobra clutch okay please give stefania santa bria the sweet sounds of You are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. 50 years old.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Big age of 50. Still making choices like that. That's crazy. Yes, it is. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. The Breakfast Club. Hey, thank you for that donkey today. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and
Starting point is 01:02:59 very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host, Claudia Jordan, with us this morning. See you, Murda. What's good? And it's Friday, so you know what that means. It's Freaky, Freaky, Freaky Friday. And the Freaky, Freaky, Freaky Friday question comes from White Boy Rick.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Shout out to White Boy Rick. He supports me at all my car shows. But the question is, you know, he allegedly got into an incident where he said another woman's name while he was having sex. And him and that woman got into an altercation, I'll say allegedly. I heard there's more to the story
Starting point is 01:03:52 and I'll let him tell it. But we're taking it away from there and asking what are turn-offs in the bed for you? Charlamagne says nothing. Everything turns him off. I don't... Even when your kid's not going to do it?
Starting point is 01:04:04 You got four well that's different that's not like turn off it does I consider that an interruption I'm not turned off when they knock on the door it's just you're interrupted
Starting point is 01:04:11 I gotta start back up it's like you know the car you gotta go it it it interrupted a turn off is when you just like turned off
Starting point is 01:04:17 oh nah nah I'm good I think I mean I haven't experienced this in quite a long time but yeah I would think older like Claudia said
Starting point is 01:04:24 yeah like someone. Like if a guy has bad breath and he licks your boobs. And then you got a stink nipple. And you're like, that's you? That's you. That's you? That's you? I like a little bit of a pressure around my neck sometimes, right?
Starting point is 01:04:41 If they do it too hard, like you're choking a man. I'm a woman. Be gentle with it. Be strong. like be strong tell somebody like that too strong don't do it this isn't for you it isn't your thing that would be messed up you're all sexual you choke somebody like like it's not supposed to really be supposed to be kind of like a fantasy somebody up here said something um we were talking and uh he said that When he's doing it And the young lady is like You know
Starting point is 01:05:08 Are you there yet? Are you there yet? You know what I mean? Because that shows that she Might not be enjoying it But she wants him to hurry up And wrap it up Yeah
Starting point is 01:05:14 That's the wrap it up music Yeah But that's not When you get that It's like oh man But not for nothing I thought we was having a good time But not for nothing
Starting point is 01:05:22 The person you're talking about Is big You know what I mean? So you didn't have to say all that. You said it. So I'm just saying. I did not say that. His name is Big Mac.
Starting point is 01:05:28 That could be anything. So the person is big. So just imagine, you know, the weight on you. And she's like, oh, you're fishing. I thought that was you, man. Are you right? I thought that was your man. That is my man.
Starting point is 01:05:36 What's up with you? Why? Why? For what? What was that for? Why? She's saying if she's on the bottom. Correct.
Starting point is 01:05:41 If she's on the bottom, it's hard to be on the bottom of her. He said he was pushing from the back. He was behind her. He wasn't on top of her. He was behind her. You can't do a bad thing to weight behind her. Nobody let you get on top of them. But sometimes from the back, it really hurts, though.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Yes. Really. You really get to it. I said yes like I know, right? I said no. I know. And your voice went mad high, too. Like, you really meant that.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yes. Yes. From the back, it really hurts. Indie. Yes! Yes. I hate you. Let's go to the food laws.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Y'all telling me I was left in right today. Oh, my goodness. Hello, who's this? What up, man? This is my uncle from East Side, Detroit. What's up, brother? What are some turnovers in the bedroom for you, bro? Man, you know, when you get the nibble on your ear and that hair stinks, man.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Sometimes the hair stinks. The hair stinks? You said hair or ear? Yeah, you know, the hair. You know, the hair. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The hair stinks. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:35 You got to wash your weave, ladies. Hello, who's this? This old school Thaddeus. All right, what's up, brother? What turned you off in the bedroom? Fish legs and black pantyhose. Fish legs and black pantyhose. Fish legs and black pantyhose. Fish nets or fish what?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Or fish smell. Yeah. Nah. Fish legs and black pantyhose. So when you take the pantyhose off and then you act like you're going to get some bait for fish tackle, that's what I mean. That tartar smell that bring all the fishes out. My daddy say, if it smell like cologne, leave it alone. That tartar smell had to bring all the fishes out. My daddy say
Starting point is 01:07:06 if it smell like cologne, leave it alone. If it smell like fish, eat all you wish. No, Charlamagne. No. No, your daddy said it wrong. Your father told you that? That's what my daddy used to say all the time. If it smell like cologne, leave it alone. If it smell like fish, eat all you wish. Does he have sore throats a lot?
Starting point is 01:07:22 No. 2023, that's some good advice. Take a potty. Hello, come on. fish eat all you would he have soft throats a lot no 2023 that's some good advice good morning good morning my name is jasmine shout out to your pops hey jasmine good morning so my my biggest turn off is when we're we're tonguing each other down we're hot and heavy in the moment and then you want to tongue my ear And I'm hearing that like nasty Lips smacking and all that extra How old are you? And I say like How old are you?
Starting point is 01:07:53 I'm 31 Yeah Cause see in the 20s Where you put your tongue all in somebody's ear That's gross Earwax is disgusting Who are you dating with that earwax? Everybody got earwax
Starting point is 01:08:04 I ain't never did that. That's a move I ain't never tried. I don't care how clean you are, how much you wax, clean your ears with two tips. No. No. Get out of my ear. Which is crazy, though, because you probably like it in your... Why you hang up on the ladies?
Starting point is 01:08:18 I didn't mean to hang up. I didn't know you was going to go into the butt. I'm just saying. Oh, you didn't know? You've been doing this 13 years? I'm still here. I've been here twice. It's every time. You knew it was going to go into the butt. I'm just saying. Oh, you didn't know? You've been doing this 13 years? I'm still here. I've been here twice. It's every time.
Starting point is 01:08:27 You knew it was going to the butt. Hello? Hey, what's up? I'm sorry. We're just having butt talks up here. It's Freaky, Freaky, Freaky Friday. We asking,
Starting point is 01:08:36 what are some turn-offs in the bedroom for you, mama? To me, a turn-off is no rhythm, excessive pubic hair like that's too nappy that's not cut and maintained. And just overall not knowing what you're doing because we too old not for you.
Starting point is 01:08:49 For you not to be knowing what you're doing at this point. Well, men can always learn. Everybody can always learn. And they can cut their pubic hair off. But bad rhythm, you can't fix that. Like they have that like that real quick, like that rabbit thing. Yeah. Yeah, they have the ego like they know what they're doing, but they don't.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah. All right, Michelle. So what do you do? You tell them you can't dance just say slow down baby you gotta slow down like we're on different rhythms all right well 800-585-1051 is freaky freaky freaky friday and the freaky freaky friday question is what are some turnoffs in the bedroom call us up it's the breakfast club good morning it's freaky call in now 800-585-1051 we want to hear from you on the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club claudia jordan here our guest host and it's fr Friday so you know what that means it's Freaky Freaky Freaky Friday and the Freaky Freaky Freaky Friday question is what are some turn offs in the bedroom this came from a shout the white boy Rick allegedly it was reported that him and his girl got into a
Starting point is 01:09:56 situation of him in a girl and she said that during sex he called the wrong name and so we're just asking what are some of your turn-offs? Hello, who's this? It's your boy Lovey from the Bronx, a.k.a. Mr. 13. Alright, Lovey, so what are some turn-offs for you, bro? It's Freaky Friday, so I have this is the problem I have with Queenie. If you don't want a well-adout
Starting point is 01:10:18 man, go sign up for it. I got all co-hosted women. It took me three months. We needed a room. She got dressed and walked away after she seen it. After she saw it? She got dressed and walked away after she seen the 13 and a half. So I need women.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Oh, you never met Claudia. This our guy. Lovey. Lovey's his name. He has a 13 and a half inch penis. Right. Okay. So he says a lot of women are scared of it.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So he says when, when, when, you know, women, I guess walk away when they see it. That's a turnoff. So technically your penis is the turnoff.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah. It's your, it's you bro. You can't be mad at her for that though. She knows her limitations. Well, then they put
Starting point is 01:10:55 restrictions on you. Like I can't have a guy. I can only have missionary. I don't feel sorry for you. I'm the woman
Starting point is 01:11:01 that's packing. I don't feel sorry for you at all. I don't feel sorry for you either. That hurts. You know how that feels like? Envy? Charlamagne? I have no idea. No, I don't. I for you. I'm the woman in the jacket. I don't feel sorry for you at all. I don't feel sorry for you either. That hurts. You know how that feels like?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Envy? Charlamagne? I have no idea. No, I don't. I'd be scared too. I have no idea. 13 and a half inches going in. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Hello, who's this? This is Angela. Hey, Angela. Good morning. What are some turn-offs in the bedroom for you? I would say too much conversation. Too much talking. What do you mean too much talking like dirty talking
Starting point is 01:11:26 or like asking you how your day was no like you know like whispering things or people that want you to repeat things to you say this and say this and have full conversations it gets to be a lot I feel you I had that before my ex boyfriend would say ask me weird ass
Starting point is 01:11:41 questions that were like I didn't answer I was ignoring him I'm like just shut up just shut up and finish like why are you asking me i don't want to answer your questions right now i've i've gotten that i've been told to shut the hell up really what questions do you ask i don't matter but i've been told to shut up aren't you talking too much not everybody is good at sex talk like it is definitely a skill and some people come off they show how perverted and weird they are in that moment you're like i like sexiness but then it gets weird oh you just talk too much like I think it's I think it's one of those things with less is more like I don't think you're supposed to have a whole conversation say you can't
Starting point is 01:12:11 hold you can't do a podcast it should be a little bit of like half sentences here and like a baby this you like this it's not that's right don't be asking me stupid questions that's right? I'm the stupid question. Rolanda, what's up? Hey, Rolanda, what do you hate in the bedroom? I hate hard breathing. Now, Rolanda, I ain't going to lie. There's a lot of people out there that don't work out, so you're going to get a lot of
Starting point is 01:12:35 hard breathing. So, you're saying fat people? People with sleep apnea, what are you saying? No, it's not even fat people, though. You don't got to be fat to have hard breathing. Yeah, that's true. You work out, Rolanda? I don't.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I need to, though. You probably breathe hard, too, now, Mama. I don't. I don't. I really don't. Hard breathing. You ever dealt with a hard breather, Claudia? Probably.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I'm 50. Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Anton from South Carolina. Hey, Anton. I see you all day we're talking uh yes freaky freaky freaky friday we're just asking you know what are some turnoffs in the bedroom brother uh you know when you get in and you hear a fart noise and you come out the
Starting point is 01:13:16 one that stinks and not the one that works oh you talk about i disagree what what fart you talking about you like that i like that you mean queef or you talking about? You like that. I like that. You mean a queef or you talking about a fart? Yeah, the fart. Not the stink hole. Maybe the wink hole, but not the stink hole. I ain't never seen... Wait, you mean a queef or a fart? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:13:31 You talking about a fart fart. Yeah, a fart. I think you mistaking queefs for farts, bro. Yeah. I love queefs. You put too much air in it. That means you've been going fast. You pumped it real fast.
Starting point is 01:13:42 No, but I think he's talking about coming out the back end. That's just nasty. I am a member of a tribe called queef. I pumped it real fast. No, but I think he's talking about coming out the back end. That's just nasty. I am a member of a tribe called Queef. I love a good Queef. I don't think he's talking Queefing. Call me Chief Queefing. If a girl farts with you, she don't really like you that much. That is disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:13:56 She don't care. She's like, I don't care. And best believe is go in the group chat. I farted in his face. One of my friends said she did that. She didn't care about him. Just saying. Well, thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Girls are experts at holding in their farts. We do it our entire life. If she farts during sex, she does not care. She don't care about you at all. No, she's like, what? Is that another way to say wrap it up, too? Yeah, wrap it up. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:14:19 So what's the moral of the story, guys? I don't know. Ask Claudia. 13 inches is too much. That's all she got. She's still stuck on that y'all like things like what five six inches what what do y'all think so i mean what do you like eight what do i like what you're talking about all right well that number between one and 13
Starting point is 01:14:34 no because i don't know what y'all talking about last thing i heard was the 13th what happened all right the breakfast club The Breakfast Club

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