The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Kerry Washington Interview, Omar Epps Interview, Who Do You Help If Your Baby Daddy and Boyfriend Are Fighting? Dr. Joseph Puma Interview)

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 00:00:51 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:02:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just
Starting point is 00:02:24 living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of a mess.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Breakfast Club is the most powerful, popular, urban radio show in America. Live from the Black Mothership in New York City, it's DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. It's different, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all know what y'all talking about.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Thank you, y'all. Be blessed, y'all. I love y'all. Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club because sometimes you say stuff and it's just going to get you in trouble. Everybody wake up. Wake it up. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Jay. Jay, what up? Where you calling from, brother? What's up, man? I'm calling from Biloxi, Mississippi. Jay, what's up, King? Get it
Starting point is 00:03:44 off your chest, brother. What's up, man? I'm calling from Biloxi, Mississippi. Jay, what's up, King? Get it off your chest, brother. What's up, man? I'm just calling because I drive trucks for a living, and I'm so damn tired of traffic, bro. Traffic is just disrespectful. Where do you live at? Biloxi, Mississippi. There's a lot of traffic in Mississippi? No, I run the corridor, the I-10 corridor over to New Orleans and Houston as well.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Oh, see, yeah, yeah. You're going to major cities. New Orleans and Houston ain't no jokes. I get it. Just be patient, man, and don't drive that truck like you're driving a car. I can't stand when people drive Mack trucks like they're driving a little electric car or something, a little Hyundai. Remember, you got a truck, bro. I try to drive for myself and for others as well as myself. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Okay. Well, Jay, do me a favor. What's that? Blow that horn, Jay. Come on. Oh, man, I can't do it. I'm in a residential area right now. That's right. Okay. Well, Jay, do me a favor. What's that? Blow that horn, Jay. Come on. Oh, man, I can't do it. I'm in a residential area right now. I can't do it. Come on, Jay.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Don't get me into trouble. Don't you blow that horn, Jay. No, don't wake the people up. I didn't sleep, Jay. Don't you do that. Come on, Jay. No, Jay. Jay, do it.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Think about the people. Think about the people, Jay, that's sleeping right now. Yeah, I wouldn't want anybody to do it to me, so I can't do it. That's right. I respect that, Jay. Do the right thing even when nobody looking. I respect that. All right, Jay.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I was going to say make the horn noise with your mouth. All right, Jay, goodbye. Damn, **** with your mouth. Pause. That's crazy. I didn't say that. Envy told Aston Mann to **** with his mouth, yo. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:05:04 This Monday, man. Show some respect to that. Envy told Aston Mann to f*** with his mouth, yo. I didn't say that. This Monday, man. Show some respect to people. What's up, Melo? What's up, Envy? I need to bring Charlamagne and you to the front of the congregation. Because never did y'all call Usher the king of R&B like Chris Brown doing this. Like, are you kidding me? No disrespect to Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Listen, we salute Chris Brown. But Chris Brown would even tell you otherwise, brother. Yeah, because he's got to say that. You feel me? You were supposed to train until your idols become your rivals, but I'm sorry he doesn't surpass him. Like, respect me. That's just not true.
Starting point is 00:05:33 If Breezy won't say it, I will. Chris Brown is the king of R&B. Like, respect me. So does Chris Brown have an album as good as 8701? Does he have an album as good as Confessions? Yeah, I'm... All right, Confessions, that was it. Okay, Mello.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But respectfully, anything after that, nah, Breezy got him. That's just not true. For real. He may have vocal talent over him, but Breezy got basically everything else. That's the only thing I can give him. Mello. I just disagree. Mello.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yes, sir. I'm not arguing with you this morning. I'm not arguing with him about certain things. I'm not arguing with you this morning. I'm not arguing with him about certain things. And it's not a disrespect to Chris Brown. Chris Brown is great. We gotta stop acting like us is just not on a whole other level than a lot of people, man. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Chrissy
Starting point is 00:06:15 Shue. Hey, good morning, mama. Get it off your chest. Good morning. I feel blessed. I just came from the casino and I came of. What casino? Where you at? I'm in Queens. I went to the research casino. I came... What casino? Where you at? I'm in Queens. I went to the research casino. Oh, how much you won?
Starting point is 00:06:30 About $1,500. Hey, congratulations. Congrats, momma. You know how much I won? Yeah. As long as I can hold someone to ask you. Girl, I don't be having it. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:06:40 What you gonna do with that money? Put it through some bills or something. There you go. The first right around the corner. The first is next week. Yeah, next week. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:06:49 All right, mama. Well, enjoy. Have a great weekend with that bread. You too. Take care, y'all. Bye-bye now. Hello, who's this? All right, get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:06:57 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. club yo charlamagne nancy what up are we live this is your time to get it off your chest i got an indoor pool an outdoor pool we want to hear from you on the breakfast club we can get on the phone right now he'll tell you what it is hello who's this hey how's it going man kyle kyle what's up get it off your chest why you sound so down brother no i ain't down i just woke up man by We live! On Brooklyn, okay. Is it true that Uber takes like, what, 40% of what you make?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Nah. I don't think they take 40%. Once the ride pops up on your screen, you just accept it, and you get all the money that pops up on the screen. I don't know why everybody be complaining about it. And we appreciate you, brother. No doubt. I appreciate you, too.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But, yeah, I just want to let all the drivers know when they'll be on the road, stop with these emotional turns y'all be making The bike lane is to the right Every time you drive Every time there's a driver in front of another driver And they trying to get around They always make this emotional turn Try to get around the driver in front of them
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I'm always to the right Driver, we are to your right Stop with the emotional turns. They're going to hurt somebody. Okay. Alright, well, thank you, man. No doubt, man. Have a good day. Bless. Yes, sir. You too. Hello, who's this? It's your boy KP from the Bronx. KP from the
Starting point is 00:08:35 BX. What up? Get it off your chest, bro. What's up, man? Listen, I'm calling because I want to be positive this morning. Like, in the next, like, five, six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival cruise and go on this eight-day trip to Turk, St. Thomas, in the next, like, five, six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival cruise and go on an eight-day trip to Turks, St. Thomas, and Puerto Rico. Hey.
Starting point is 00:08:49 With the fam, I know it's going to be a good vibe. That's right, man. Set the vibes early. I like that. Who you taking, your wife? Nah, I'm going with the fam.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Like, I'm going with one of my close best friends, his mom, everybody like that, my extended family. Oh, that's beautiful, brother. Enjoy, bro. Enjoy that, man.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Put your feet in the sand of Turks and Caicos. Huh, bro. Enjoy that, man. Put your feet in the sand of Turks and Caicos. How do I say it again? I said put your feet in the sand of Turks and Caicos, man. It's a beautiful place. Yeah, no, in fact, I've been there one time,
Starting point is 00:09:13 but only when I was younger, so I know it's going to be great now that I'm an adult. Have you been on a cruise before? Yeah, probably like nothing. It's like my ninth time cruise. I haven't been on Carnival, Caribbean, Disney. Oh, okay. All types of stuff. So you're a professional. You know I done been to Carnival World, Caribbean, Disney.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh, okay. All types of stuff. So you're a professional. You know where you need to go, what time you need to go to lunch and dinner, and how to book all those scourges and all that. You a pro? No, that's a fact. My grandmother told me a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:09:36 We've been going on a cruise for years. So, you know, she's not with us no more, but it's something I like to keep doing because, you know, it makes me remember her. Okay, brother. Have a good one. Hello, who's this? Hey, man. Jefferson, you know, it makes me remember her. Okay, brother. Have a good one. Hello, who's this? Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Jefferson, man. Hey, Jefferson. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Hey. First of all, shout out all Big 914. Shout out everybody. Shout out CJ, MV, Charlamagne, everyone there.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Look, man, if you're black and you're Republican, I don't think that's a bad thing. I just want to get that off my chest that everyone that's black does not have to think democratically or vote Democrat. That was it, man. I agree with you. I don't think that, you know, just because you're black and you're black and Republican means that you're a bad person. But I do feel like, you know, sometimes we vote against our own interests.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But I don't think the Democrats have the best interest because I feel like they're promoting us kind of to stay in a system that doesn't really benefit us in the long haul. That's all I'm saying. That's just my opinion. I'm not disagreeing with that either. I do think that we're in some very, very
Starting point is 00:10:37 troubling times right now, though. And I do see, you know, one party leaning heavy towards fascism. But everybody, listen, man, vote your own interest. That's what I tell folks. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent something on your mind, call us up right now.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:11:58 podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once
Starting point is 00:12:26 we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people,
Starting point is 00:13:11 but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're Black, Asian, White, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny living. Restaurant stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny living. Restaurant stealing a birthday cake. Mess.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Wait, what flavor was the cake though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love of mess. Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sidney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, say it loud.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And the kids said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have offices throughout four of the five boroughs generally we provide care in underserved communities where there are what often called health deserts there's no hospitals or not many physicians around and we try and meet patients who need out care where they live and i told y'all i've had every cardiovascular test there is to have over the past few months. I had, name some of them, Doc.
Starting point is 00:16:28 What was it? EKGs. What are some of the tests? I think you had stress tests. Stress tests. EKG. Hold them, monitor. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Before you came to us. Absolutely. You had a calcium score. Calcium score. Right. And yours, absolutely, not only was the best, it's the one that put my mind at ease the most. Well, thank you. Especially after I got those results back.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But why is it important for people of color to get their heart tested regularly? So it's important for people of color to get their heart tested, period, and not regularly. Because one of the challenges is they're not regularly getting their heart tested. People of color have a almost one and a half to two times the rate of death from heart disease. They get the risk factors for heart disease, high blood pressure. They often develop high blood pressure at an earlier age. It's more difficult to treat. They have diabetes at a higher rate, also a risk factor for heart disease. When they have heart attacks, their outcomes are worse. They have a 30% to 40% increased chance of dying from a heart attack as compared to whites in America. And they often have much higher rates, 70% higher rates of congestive heart failure which is very disabling and they develop that
Starting point is 00:17:46 often at an earlier age well how can people uh get tested not how can they test it of course but you know they tell you at 45 years old you get a colonoscopy they tell you at this age you do this at what age should people be checking their heart and you know i go to my doctor you know twice a year for checkups and not one time has he said all right well you need to check out your heart are there certain signs where maybe people say you should check out your heart or certain signs where they should do certain things or should it be at a particular age where this is where you should start doing it more and more and more yeah so that's a great question so the the answer to that question i think that depends on
Starting point is 00:18:21 whether you have symptoms or no symptoms if you have symptoms of discomfort in your chest, shortness of breath, more easy fatigue, not able to do the usual level of exercise, dizziness, lightheadedness, doesn't matter what age you are, you should be tested. Because let's remember, heart disease is the number one killer in America. And even though over the last 40 years, the rate of death from heart disease has come down, it has not come down for the black community. All those gains have been in the white community. So second, if you're not necessarily symptomatic, okay, overall, you're working, you feel good,
Starting point is 00:19:00 but you're 40 and older as a man or 50 and older as a woman, and you've smoked, have a family history of heart disease, have high blood pressure, diabetes, or high cholesterol, then you should be tested. Prior to the Soren heart scan or CAT scanning in general of the heart, the only test we had to determine if you had heart disease was a stress test. But that's not nearly as accurate and doesn't define the heart arteries as Charlemagne, when you came in, we sent you images of your heart arteries. We gave you a risk assessment, and it's costly stress testing, almost 10 times the cost of a CAT scan. But CAT scanning now takes four minutes or less. If you come into our office, less than 15 minutes of your total time,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and you have a fully accurate, greater than 97% accuracy of your heart anatomy, whether there's blockage, calcium, any disruption that could potentially cause a problem later on in life. Well, I was going to ask, so you go to the dentist, you have a cavity, they can fix it, right? Floss it, whatever. Colonoscopy, they clean your butt out, right? So now-
Starting point is 00:20:15 No. You know what? He knows what I mean. You know they clean it out, they cut off the polyps, you know what it is. So if there is a problem with your heart, what are the procedures to, can it be done right then and there? Talk that talk, Dr. Puma. This is good.
Starting point is 00:20:27 This blew me away when you told me this. Yeah. So nationally, Medicare has now approved putting heart stents right in the office in appropriate facilities. New York State has not yet approved that, but our center down in lower Manhattan is built for that. And we have the latest technology and cardiac catheterization lab where you could have a stent put right in at that time. What's a stent? A stent is a metal scaffold that when you have a blockage in your artery through an artery in your wrist, we put a catheter up into the heart and then over a wire through the catheter, we can pass a metal stent over a balloon and dilate it and clear away the blockage.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Oh, so the stent doesn't stay inside of you. It just cleans out. It stays inside of you. Oh, it does stay. And becomes part of the artery wall. Okay, so you have a piece of metal in you. So every time you go through TSA metal detector, you... It won't go off.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Okay. It doesn't go off. Okay. It doesn't go off. It's very small, three and a half millimeters usually. But no, it doesn't set off metal detectors. You can use your microwave. But it's the most common treatment for blocked arteries in the world. Can you explain to people what causes heart attacks and strokes sure um it's a that's a great question and i think it's not only a great great question and great question in general
Starting point is 00:21:53 because it's the leading cause of death but in the black community the risk of it is so much higher i know charlamagne you're you're from South Carolina. I told you my family are raised in North Carolina. And in that part of the world, we call it the stroke belt from North Carolina down to Alabama, primarily because black men in particular have high blood pressure at such an early age, so difficult to control, less likely for African Americans to control their blood pressure than white, that the risk of stroke from that elevated pressure over time causes either a blood clot in one of the arteries to the brain or it just ruptures. Same thing with heart attacks or similar at least. Over time, the body builds up plaque in the arteries plaque is just cholesterol
Starting point is 00:22:47 and calcium some of it's from our diet some of it's genetic some of it is accelerated if you have diabetes in fact if you have diabetes you have a three times higher risk of dying from a heart attack than someone who doesn't have diabetes. So if you have diabetes, that ought to be like a flashing neon sign. I need to see a cardiologist. And in communities of color, when they have high blood pressure and they have diabetes, when they end up with a heart attack or a stroke, they usually have worse outcomes, a higher risk of dying from it. And if they survive, they're more likely to have a lower functional status, to be in congestive heart failure or to have physical abnormalities that they're not able to do their activities of daily living.
Starting point is 00:23:37 All right, we have more with Dr. Puma. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Dr. Puma. A lot of people in our community are scared to go to the doctor or can't afford to, don't have insurance. So what are some of the signs that they should look out? Let's start with diabetes. What is a sign of diabetes that people should look out for? First of all, I would say health care should not be just for people well off or people who have insurance. Health care should be a right in this country.
Starting point is 00:24:13 There's no reason. I agree. There's just no reason why we should treat any not treat any human being that that needs our help. Right. And if you come to any one of our offices, we take care of everyone regardless of their ability to pay. So that's number one. Number two, high blood pressure and diabetes both, when we're in medical school, they're called the silent killers
Starting point is 00:24:35 because they often don't have symptoms, okay? But when they do, if you have high blood pressure, you might feel flushed sometimes during the day in your face. You might get headaches. Okay. You might have chest discomfort. You might get short of breath. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:51 You don't need to go to a doctor. You can go to any pharmacy even, and they have a blood pressure cuff there usually. Yep. And they'll check your blood pressure. So a simple screening for that. And remember something. Blood pressure diagnosis often peaks in our 30s or in our 50s. So if you're in communities of color and you're in your 30s, you should at least
Starting point is 00:25:12 get a screening for blood pressure. Diabetes also very elusive in terms of symptoms. Often the first symptoms a diabetic will feel is that they're very thirsty or they're urinating a lot. And that's because their sugar levels are high and it's making them urinate, which then makes them thirsty. They often feel weak, have a brain fog. They just never feel clear. And again, simple pinprick of your finger can tell you if your sugar is high or low. That you probably do need to go to a doctor to have that checked. Or a simple blood test. But the bigger point is,
Starting point is 00:25:50 simple screening things, or just self-awareness. You bring up fear. Fear is a big issue. Fear is a big issue for many people. People don't come to me, it's not like, I don't know if you're married or you have kids, but you remember when you...
Starting point is 00:26:06 We both married. You met my wife, Dr. Puma. I can't bring that up again. Wow. Caroline is okay. I can't bring that up again. But anyway, you remember the first time you're pregnant and you go to the doctor, everyone's happy and it's an exciting time. When people come to me, they're scared. They're not sure what's going on. They may not feel well. They
Starting point is 00:26:28 may have a family history. So we have to deal with that fear. One of the ways you deal with that fear is by bringing healthcare to them as opposed to saying, here, I'm in a big fancy building. Come to me. I'm really smart. We go to them. We want to be in their community. And then if there is an issue where they need a test, make it easy for them. Okay? Explain. Talk. You know, people are a lot smarter than sometimes we give them credit for. And understanding where they're from and trying to learn about them and their family can help kind of bring people together and have an honest conversation
Starting point is 00:27:05 i think people want you to talk about the when i asked you uh what what what causes the heart attacks of scripts i want you to talk about like the blockage and the order how the plaque breaks off and that stuff yeah so in in the coronary artery so for strokes if you have high blood pressure just the high blood pressure right it's the same as if you have high blood pressure in your water heater at home if it gets to a certain level, boom, it just pops. But in the heart arteries, you can even have a mild to moderate plaque in your arteries. And then some stressor, you're smoking a cigarette one day, you're in an argument with someone, you're having a stressful time at work, it can cause that plaque to rupture and then causes a blood clot.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And that's a big challenge. The reason when you asked DJ Envy about who should have the scan, and we said, even in people who are not symptomatic, if they have risk factors, they should have a scan because one in three people that have a heart attack find out they're having, they have heart disease the day they have their heart attack. And out of those, one in three people that have a heart attack find out they have heart disease the day they have their heart attack. And out of those, one in three die the day they have their heart attack. So it's often unpredictable. So unless you know you have some plaque, then there are strategies, as we discussed, whether it's statin medications, aspirin, counseling to help you maybe stop smoking if you smoke, weight reduction, things of that nature that can help. But heart attacks are, I like to think of it
Starting point is 00:28:35 this way. If you're lucky enough to have symptoms, it's kind of like when you're driving your car and the little light goes on and says the tire's running low, right? Usually if you're having symptoms or you see that light, you'll attend to it so that you don't end up with a blowout, let's say on the highway, because that's like a heart attack. But many people don't have symptoms until the day they have their heart attack. And I want to read my results that Dr. Soren sent me, because y'all send five things after you have the test it's the images of your coronary heart arteries uh your heart flow analysis of the arteries right what is that exactly so the heart flow analysis is if there is any plaque in the artery it's a heart
Starting point is 00:29:16 flow is a company based in california that has um proprietary ai software that can actually assess the flow to determine if that plaque, that blockage is obstructive, needs to be treated with a stent or bypass, or non-obstructive, needs aggressive medical therapy. It's amazing software. We use it on all our patients. And it's that alone, that software alone has been proven to make you uh to reduce mortality increases survival by having cat the the soren heart scan with heart flow and so yeah and y'all send the soren heart scan final report you send your blood work report and finally which i really
Starting point is 00:29:59 loved the 10-year risk of cardiovascular events which is heart attack stroke or death now this is what put my mind at ease. Overall, your results are excellent. Despite a high calcium score for your age, there is only minimal plaque in your heart arteries. Furthermore, your lipid cholesterol profile is excellent and well below goal on your current statin medication and aspirin, which I would continue. Your blood pressure and heart rate are those of a man 20 years younger all these factors contribute to a very low 10-year cardiovascular risk of only 3.5 percent optimal for men of your age would be three percent so you are in very good shape that put my mind at my heart within the next 15 and i think i got those results the next day that's correct i think
Starting point is 00:30:39 yeah yeah that's that that's correct so i would flip it back to you i would definitely like to sign up because i definitely would like to make sure that I'm here for my kids. I have six kids. So I want to make sure I'm here for my kids. You'd be welcome to come. And, and again,
Starting point is 00:30:52 I just think the access making it easy, right? You know, you all are people of means and you know, but it's for everybody and, and, and you can, and you can really make a great impact for people who may have some fear,
Starting point is 00:31:07 aren't sure what the entry point is, aren't sure what to do. So I appreciate you inviting me. I appreciate you taking the time and talking about it. And I hope we can help some people. And where can they get more information or reach you directly? On our website, Soarinmedicalny.com. We're on Instagram. I've never been on any of these things.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I've been practicing for over 30 years. But in the past year, all the young folks in our practice have us on Instagram and on a website now. And they can call the office or send us an email. As you saw, we respond right away we get you in right away and we give you comprehensive results and if we think there's something more we make sure that we shepherd you through your health care journey to good health everybody needs to go do this man i've had too many friends you know either having heart attacks or having strokes over the past few years are dying of heart attacks and strokes so you should definitely go to us soaring medical and get the
Starting point is 00:32:08 soaring heart scan absolutely i'm going as soon as i can and i appreciate you so much for joining us thank you very much dr joseph puma it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same good news if you're hiring you've got help zip recruiter zip recruiter works for you to find great candidates fast it's smart technology identifies qualified candidates for you and you can invite your top choices to apply try it for free at zip recruiter.com slash breakfast it's topic time call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club of course jess
Starting point is 00:32:53 hilarious is here she came up with this topic right here she says not based on a true story though you just come here interrupt and stop playing music we're on air producing you know we all ask him yes we are're going back out all slow. All right. So the question is. Actually, home, we're going into the bushes. So if your baby daddy and your boyfriend is fighting, who do you help and do you feel bad? Now, you said you're helping your baby daddy.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, I have to. You said because he can't fight. Yes. Damn it, man. Rome is my guy. Like, I have to help him. Now, how is your boyfriend going to feel about this when he hears this later? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Lord have mercy. I don't know. You just be making your life difficult for no reason. For no reason. For no reason. Because, no, y'all turned the question back on me. This is for them out there. You didn't have to answer. You didn't have to answer.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I know. You could have let it go. My God. Who you helping if your boyfriend and baby daddy fighting? John, come on, John. You can answer this hypothetically, man. What about you? Who you helping? Yo, what up, DJ Andy?, come on, John. You can answer this hypothetically, man. What about you? Who you helping?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yo, what up, DJ Andy? What up, Charlamagne? Let the call in. Hey, John. Good morning. Now, John, if your baby daddy and your boyfriend start fighting, what you going to do? I don't have a baby daddy. I had a baby mama, and my girl was fighting, and I helped out my girl.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You helping your girl? He said it happened. Yeah. Well, what up, Jeff? What up, baby? How you doing? was fighting and I helped out my girl. You helping your girl? He said it happened. What up, Jess? What up, baby? How you doing? You said you helped your girl? I didn't help my girl, but I let her get her lips in. I think you should help who
Starting point is 00:34:16 loves your child. I think you should help who your child would want you to help. Yeah, and it's going to be that parent. By the way, I don't think you got to help any. You just don't let them fight. You get in between them. Like, yo, y'all ain't fighting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So who would you help, Sheldon? I would, if they needed help, I would help the person I know my child would want me to help. I would help the person if my child was standing there, my child would try to intervene. No, come on.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Come on with my child standing there. No, because nobody's going to be fighting in front of the child. Why not? No. Now, if they pulled up, if your boyfriend and your baby father got into it, who are you grabbing first? Saucy Santana.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm getting in between both of them. You're getting in between, but wow, whoa. No, don't ever get in between them two. You know what I mean. I'm breaking them up, but it just depends. I would just stop whoever getting their ass kicked. Whoever getting their ass kicked, I'd be like, yo, pull them off them or something. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Because to be honest with you, no, I would help Rome, but Rome would be the reason the fight happened. Because Rome antagonizes. Chris is not going to. He just going. He's going to fight. Yeah. But Rome is going to start it.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But I still have to help Rome. Because Rome has this. And I think, I mean, mouth. I think when we mean help, we don't mean. Yeah, I'm a big in Rome. We're not helping to fight. We just going to break it up, right? That's what you mean when you say help. No, no, no. We talking about helping to fight. No, no, no. We talking we mean help, we don't mean helping to fight. We just gonna break it up, right? That's what you mean when you say help. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:28 We talking about helping to fight. No. Because if you help your baby daddy or your baby mama, you still gotta go home to your boyfriend or girlfriend later on. And then they gonna say, yo, why you punch me too? Well, it's just a boyfriend or girlfriend. That's all y'all said, boyfriend or girlfriend. How serious is it? Hey, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He keep trying to change the story. Oh, my gosh. Hello, who's this? Good morning, Breakfast Club. Peace, Jack-Jack. Now, Jack-Jack, what you doing? I'm fighting. I'm kicking it off.
Starting point is 00:35:54 He owe me child support. We fighting. Damn. I know that's right. Okay. So you're going to drag your baby to me. And then I'm going back. I'm going back home to my baby.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And I'm going to be like, yo, did you hear what happened to your dad? It's tragic. But I started it. I'm fighting back home to my baby, and I'm going to be like, yo, did you hear what happened to your dad? It's tragic. But I started it. I'm fighting. Jesus. You know what's so crazy about this, man? A lot of these women want their boyfriends to beat up their babies. It sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Oh, my God. Christian's texting me. What did he say? Hey, good morning, babe. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That's all he said. Wait. Here he is. Hey. Good morning. Good morning. Morning. Hey, Uncle Charlie. Peace. He's only saying, here he is. Hey, Jenny, good morning. Morning. Hey, Uncle Charlie.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Peace. What's happening? What's happening? Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight. Who you helping? I'm helping my baby daddy. It's all about the kids. They have a bad boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:36:38 They'll leave any time. I got to deal with my baby daddy for the rest of my life. Okay. And we jumping that. Do you like your boy? Do you want him? Do you like your boyfriend? It's always the baby daddy for me.
Starting point is 00:36:53 That's why I got to deal with it. I know that's right. I know that's right. Okay. Thank you, mama. Carmen. Good morning. Hey, Carmen.
Starting point is 00:37:01 How you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good. Now your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight. How you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good. Now, your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight. Who you helping? I got to fight both of them. So you're going to punch both of them? Yes, for sure. I'm going to help my baby daddy because, you know, we got kids.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You know what I'm saying? But then I'm going to help my man because that's my man. That don't even make no sense. If you're thinking on everybody and figure out the details later, you know what I'm saying? So you just hitting both of them? At this point, because why y'all even got me in this situation anyway? Why y'all even fighting? Right, why y'all fighting?
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'm making these tough decisions. That is hilarious. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? This is Crystal. Hey, Crystal. Good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:37:41 You know, we're having an intellectual conversation about baby daddy and boyfriends. Which one are you helping if they fight? Okay, so I'm going to be honest. It's two things. It's how long I've been with this, my boyfriend, and who started. Now, me personally, I got a petty baby daddy. I got a petty baby daddy. And me, my guy, I've been with him for three and a half years.
Starting point is 00:38:03 So he's not on no drama stuff, no messy stuff. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just assuming my baby daddy started it. So I'm going to side with my n***a because we don't do that drama. With his baby mama, my baby daddy, we don't do that. So I just off-grid don't know it's my baby daddy. So I'm side with my n***a always. All day.
Starting point is 00:38:25 All right. Thank you, mama. It feels like the baby daddy. So I'm side with my n***a always. All day. All day. All right. Thank you, mama. It feel like the baby daddy is more permanent in your life than a boyfriend, though. Because you don't know unless that boyfriend proposes, becomes your fiance, becomes your husband. It feel like the baby daddy is who you should really be. But like she said, it depends how long they've been together. It's always dependables.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah. Like, it just depends. The only reason I'm helping Rome is because I cannot see him get beat up. Not because of the kids. Because Ash is going to be like, Dad, you knew you couldn't fight. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's not that's not a big deal. Why do you keep doing that, man?
Starting point is 00:38:54 But seriously. You're going to make Rome slap something tomorrow. Like, Rome is going to be like, he's just going to slap somebody just because you say he can't fight. And you're going to get messed up. That's the thing. You're going to cause Rome problems in Baltimore all day. You're going to say you can't fight. And you will get messed up. That's the thing. You'll cause wrong problems in Baltimore all day. Yeah, Shorty say you can't fight. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:39:09 That's not what I'm talking about. I heard Shorty on Breakfast Club. She say you can't fight. We do not talk like that. Thank you. Thank you. Jasmine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Your baby daddy and your boyfriend fighting. Who you helping? I was watching everything and recording. Oh, so you're're gonna sit back and world star it boom yup world star all day watch it scream yell eat some popcorn at the same time who would you want to win honestly my boyfriend baby daddy got no love i know that's right baby daddy needs it girl i know that's right what's the moral it, girl. I know that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:45 What's the moral of the story? If there's a moral of the story, Jess? Don't jump in. Don't jump in. The moral of the story is they shouldn't be fighting. They shouldn't be fighting. And if they do, do not jump in. Call the police.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You don't want to call the police when they both get locked up? One might have a warrant. Now they get arrested? Damn it, Jess. You're damned if you do. You're damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. Just don't fight. But I don't think the woman should jump in.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Don't help. Even if you're baitful, I can't fight. Don't jump in. Why you keep saying that, man? No, because I know the people can relate. I beat Rome up before. Yes, in the younger days. But he didn't hit you back, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yes, he did. Oh, y'all was going at it. Yes, man. Rome used to get down with the get down. I told you he was cheating on me before he met me. So, yeah, that just explains. That is crazy. If you're trying to fight back and you're getting beat up by your baby mama. Like, real big. Like, Rome, you can't pick me up. No.
Starting point is 00:40:39 What are we doing? That ain't funny, but it's funny, man. Lord have mercy. I'm going to interview him. We're going to interview him together. Let's go. And we're going to see. Oh, my God, man. You hear me telling the truth?
Starting point is 00:40:51 I tell you the truth. Yeah, she beat me up a couple times. A couple times. It's because I let her. Now, get put me in the headlock one time. Maybe tap out. Yeah. And she's small.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Real little. She ain't that little now. She ain't that little. She was big enough to put me in the headlock. All right? Don't try to make her no bigger than what she is. She is little. She put you in the headlock. She ain't that little. Trying to make her big. No, she ain't that little now. She ain't that little. She was big enough to put me in the headlock. All right? Don't try to make her no bigger than what she is. She is little. She puts you in the headlock.
Starting point is 00:41:06 She ain't that little. Trying to make her big. No, she ain't that little. Yes, she is. Actually. All right, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:41:14 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Lauren LaRosa, our guest host. And we got a special guest in the building, ladies and gentlemen. Big legend energy. Kerry Washington.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's right. Welcome. Hi. Yes. Good morning, Ms. Washington. New book out, Thicker Than Water. Congratulations. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Learned so much about you with this book. First, maybe it's just me being stupid. I didn't know you were from the Bronx. Really? I did not know that. From the Bronx. I didn't know you were from the Bronx. really i did not know that i didn't know you were from the bronx born and raised you know what i say i say the craziest people in america
Starting point is 00:41:49 come from the bronx and all of florida why what why i agree on florida but why the bronx talented people that is true come from the bronx that is very true too now how did you know now the time to write thinking in water so what i write about in the book is that a handful of like five years ago my parents sat me down and shared with me some new information about myself that really kind of challenged the way that I thought about myself that I thought about my family turned my world upside down and at the time I had actually sold another book idea, which was based, kind of inspired by the show that I was on, Scandal. And it was like, these are the 10 things
Starting point is 00:42:29 that I learned from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down to write that book, all I could think about was this new information I'd been given and how it impacted my family and my sense of self. And so I wasn't going to write a book at all. I tried to give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Wow. And then a few years later, I was like, I think I have to at least try to write this book because you said your parents didn't want you to reveal that information yeah yeah so my my my parents told me that they were sort of forced to tell me that my dad is not my biological father yeah how did that affect you because i mean he's still your dad at the end of the day we've seen the pictures we've seen you know the dad jokes on instagram yeah so how did that affect anything after you were told so i think immediately when they told me it was weird to be totally honest with you i felt like excited i felt excited and grateful because i had always felt like there was something going on in my family that i couldn't
Starting point is 00:43:24 put my finger on but it was like a dynamic of distance or like there was I just knew that I didn't know what I didn't know. But I knew that that there was something between my parents and I. And because I didn't know what it was, a lot of times I blame myself for that or maybe thought I was crazy for thinking it. Maybe thought maybe I'm just not open enough. Like I was always trying to figure it out. So when they told me, it felt like I could breathe. It felt like, oh, this is a real opportunity for me to jump into this new kind of understanding of myself and my life. And, you know, it was really exciting.
Starting point is 00:43:59 When you would ask questions about, like, just different things. Like, hey, you go to the doctors and they say you know what illnesses are on your mom's side your dad's side when you would ask your dad your mom those questions how would they answer it as if my dad was my father they were gonna take this to their grave and i get it i totally understand right like protecting you yeah i think they they felt like well first of all let me just say this my parents are renegades right like a lot of us now we know people who go to sperm donor sperm banks right it's like very common relatively now and you get a whole catalog you can pick the color of the eyes
Starting point is 00:44:37 and what ivy league university they went to but when my parents did this in the mid 70s nobody was doing this this was highly experimental highly secretive it was a big risk they were taking it wasn't like they had complete health screenings for the donor they had no idea who the donor was they said we asked two things let him be healthy who knows what that means at the time right but like we want him to be healthy and we want him to be black because they wanted this to be a secret so yeah you know you talk about your eating disorder and dealing with how you felt about your body and your looks. I wanted to know what got you in that point.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And the reason I ask is I have four daughters. Charlamagne has four daughters. And I always want to make sure I try my hardest to give my daughter as many compliments as possible. Right. Because you never want them to feel that way. But sometimes I don't think that matters because it's also how they look at themselves. Yeah. So what got you to that point where you didn't like what you seen in the mirror or something that you weren't happy about? It's such a good question. I have daughters, too.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Right. So it's something that I think about a lot. I think that the food, it's like any other kind of addictive behavior. It's not about the drug. It's not really about the food or even really about the relationship with body. It came up from a compulsion of trying to escape the feelings I was having or numb them. And so I think for me, it was this sense that I write about in the book of feeling like I had to be perfect. Like I had to be better than who I was in order to be deserving of love. And some of that came from like,
Starting point is 00:46:07 why do I have this weird dynamic with my parents? Like, what's going on? Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I might be more lovable. So I don't even, you know, I mean, I do think like we it's important to teach our kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise, to make healthy choices when it comes to food, to teach them about nutrition, about how food works in the body. All that's important. But I think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved, to feel safe, those are the things that I think help us have the tools to live in life on life's terms as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors to escape life. I'm jumping all around because I want people to read the book, but you talked about always striving for perfection.
Starting point is 00:46:53 You said Jamie Foxx taught you a very valuable lesson. Can you explain what that was? I've been really lucky. I've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on Ray and Django Unchained. Classics, by the way. Yeah, truly. He's the best. And Jamie's taught me a lot about a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:47:14 But one of the things is in my work as an actor, you have to let go of that perfection idea. Because we were doing a scene together in Ray. It was the scene where I find, speaking of drugs, where I find all his heroin works the first time as his wife and you know we had done it in the morning we had hit it out of the park and I was like oh we are on fire this is incredible and then as the day went on I kept trying to do it exactly the way we had done it earlier that morning so that it would be in that perfect place that felt so good and that's the beginning of death as an actor like you you can't try to recreate magic you have to keep cultivating new magic right like you have to truly be in the moment and Jamie really helped me to realize I
Starting point is 00:47:57 was frustrated in the scene and he was like you gotta you gotta keep digging you gotta let go of this morning and that was a really powerful lesson why was it easier to find that in acting as opposed to real life well i guess i hadn't learned how to apply that to the rest of my world you know there was like it was in a vacuum was isolated kind of moment but it's a good question i mean that is the lesson though right is that like the answer is never about perfection it's about like, what's the best possible version of my life in this moment of me in this moment. Now, you did say something.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I heard you say that parents do the best that they can. And then it's up to us to parent ourselves after that. Explain that. Well, I think like one of the things that I've truly come to terms with in writing this book is that my every choice my parents made was out of love. They weren't trying to be cruel. They weren't trying to hurt me they really thought that this was the best choice and by the way doctors back then said it like artificial insemination was so new they would say you do this thing and then you go home and have sex and then you have plausible
Starting point is 00:48:57 deniability and nobody knew 40 years ago there would be these home tests 23 and ancestry you had no idea so they were like go home and have sex then the kid's yours end of story nothing to talk about right and so i think my parents didn't want me to feel different they didn't want me to feel weird they didn't want me ironically they didn't want me to feel distance from them even though that's what wound up happening so i know that they made loving choices or choices out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me. But I think we have to, for me and my journey, it's been like, it's been good to understand who they were to have compassion for their choices.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But I can't blame them for where I am now. Like now that I have awareness, I have to say like, okay, they gave me everything they could with as much love as they could. How do I now close the gap between what they gave me and what I need? That's my responsibility as an adult. If I just sit here and continue to complain about what they didn't give me, then I'm keeping myself a child. All right, we got more with Kerry Washington. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:53:01 Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living.
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Starting point is 00:55:07 And we're still kicking it with Kerry Washington. Lauren. What's that conversation like with your kids? Like once you decided to take this world to your kids and even deciding to write the book. And now you're, you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends and everybody knows who you are. So how do you have that conversation with them and kind of how are they responding to things? You know, it's funny. Like I was saying before, this is so common now.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Like it's not news to my kids. They were so unimpressed. Like, you know, they're in their classes. They have kids with two dads and two moms. So they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors, friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates. Like they also like we're a blended family, right? Their big sister, you know, when you look at're a blended family right their big sister you know when when you look at the three of them their big sister has four parents like having me having
Starting point is 00:55:50 another parental figure in my story is not weird to them for my parents they came from a world where what makes a family was very different but the ideas of what makes a family now is much more open so you know, they know. Obviously, the conversation I have with my 17-year-old is very different than the conversation I have with my 6-year-old. Right. But I want to be a home where we're open and honest and where they feel like they can ask anything. What about when you decided to, because I know in this book you talk about the abortion that you had at 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 That is something that is like so. In my 20s. In your 20s. But, I I mean it's around save the last dance time right so you were you know highly successful at this time when I know but it's in a chapter that I call black famous because I was like you know how we are like white people didn't necessarily know that the girl from save the last dance was the same girl from Ray was the same girl from last game of Scotland so we knew I you know but so yes I was my star was on the rise but it wasn't I
Starting point is 00:56:47 wasn't like I could still go to the grocery store and it was all good I love your self-awareness did you realize you were black famous when you were black famous all of that in hindsight no in the moment because I knew you know it was like I knew I could walk down the street
Starting point is 00:57:03 on 57th and Madison and be fine. But if I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh, my God, Chanel. Or like at the time, I was a I was a substitute teacher in New York City public schools. That was one of my many side hustles when I was trying to make a living as an actor. And it was funny because I would get hired into the school and the principals who were white you know the principals vice principals they would be like so nice to meet you great they bring me to the classroom they had no idea who I was but then I would be asked to leave a school because by the second day all the kids were cutting class to see Chanel from Save the Last Dance because they knew
Starting point is 00:57:39 who I was because I was substitute teaching in Harlem so it was like that dynamic I understood that certain people knew who I was and other people didn't. What's more fulfilling, being black famous or white famous? I think you have to have both. That was one of the things that Chris Rock taught me. Like you can never ever forget
Starting point is 00:57:55 your core original first audience. You cannot, because that other audience will come and go. There'll be ebbs and flows, but black people will hold you up throughout. If you stay with us, we stay with you. I feel like that's what made Scandal such a hit. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I mean, we were part of the birth of black Twitter at the time. So one of my best friends from high school, she's a brilliant social media person, Allison Peters. She actually convinced me to go on Twitter. And I was like, what? Why? I don't know. And she was like, what? Why? I don't know. And she was like, she had come out of Viacom and was like, it's really important. You need to do this. And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into talking the cast into being on Twitter. And
Starting point is 00:58:35 we were one of the first shows to do live tweeting and to really have event television at a time where people were no longer watching shows in real time, unless it was like a basketball game. And so that conversation around the show was our grassroots movement. Like we had black Twitter on fire. People like Oprah eventually were like, I only started watching Scandal because it's the only thing people talked about on Thursday nights on Twitter. So yes, in that first season, it was absolutely because black audiences, you know how culture follows us.
Starting point is 00:59:07 So black audiences made it that you had to be there to tune in. And suddenly it trickled out into the rest of the world. How often do people come up to you to fix? All the time. And to be honest, because the show was inspired by a real woman, Judy Smith, who's a real D.C. fixer who never slept with the president, but was a real fixer. And I have her on speed dial, so people also
Starting point is 00:59:34 will come to me to get to her because they know she is truly able to fix stuff. Have you needed her? I haven't needed her, but I've sent other people to her. But I've talked to her. I mean, like, not on like a, I'm in jail, it's 2 a.m., help me out. But like, you know, if there's a rollout of a movie and I'm like, I don't know, this director is a little bit of a problem.
Starting point is 00:59:54 What do you think? You know, I've done, I've had those kind of conversations with her. Yeah. But people do, you know, it's funny, like, it'll happen in political moments like a lot of my political work now is inspired by the fact that in 2016 the morning after the election when that awful rapist racist person was elected that when i woke up all over social media people were like you have to save us what are you gonna do please olivia. And it was funny for a minute. And then I was like, we have a real problem in our culture because we don't realize that
Starting point is 01:00:31 Olivia Pope is an imaginary character on a television show. And that every single person who wrote one of those tweets, they have more power than Olivia Pope because she can't vote. She can't register voters. She can't volunteer. She can't knock on doors. But it's like we've given our power over to imaginary people because we have this hero worship. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So we're not stepping into our power because we're looking for somebody else to solve our problems for us. So a lot of the work that I've been doing has been trying to figure out how to turn the spotlight that's on me onto those grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work. When people saw you with the vice president the other day. Yeah. They probably went crazy. Yeah. She's back. She president the other day, they probably were the same thing. They went crazy. Yeah, she's back. She's back. She's at the White House.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. I want to ask one more question about your father. How did finding out your father wasn't your biological father change your views on parenthood? Oh, man. Well, one thing I say in the book is, and it's what I feel, is that in our community, where people have historically had such difficult relationships, right, where there's this history of dads maybe not being present.
Starting point is 01:01:30 You know, in the neighborhood that I grew up in, I grew up in one of the few households where the dad was around and, you know, my parents were still married. And the fact looking back that that my dad really did choose me that he was there he's been there for me the whole time that he's been this you know parental force in my life that he's my dad that he chose me that I belong to him and he belongs to me it almost meant more than it ever did before um and I feel really grateful you know now you can't you contemplated suicide at one point. Yeah. What got you there, first of all? And then how did you get through it? Because I'm sure there's people listening now that might be in that same zone and trying to work themselves through it every day. So what got you to that point where you felt that way? And then how did you get over that obstacle?
Starting point is 01:02:18 When you say there might be people listening who feel that way? It's like my heart breaks because i just know how hard it is to feel that alone and that hopeless so if anybody's listening and is feeling that way the one thing i would say is to ask for help you know is to really ask for help because you are you feel alone but i guarantee you you are not alone that's right um and for me that was the big thing was i mean number one it was the first time that i truly got on my knees and talked to god and was like i need help like i don't i because i felt like i really don't have any tools i don't i don't know what to do so it was the first time that i think i humbled myself enough to feel like there's got to be something bigger than me that points me in the direction of healing.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And I started reaching out. I went to therapy for the first time, group therapy, one-on-one. Like, I just really started committing to trying to walk this road of healing. I swear by it. I swear by therapy. All right, we got more with Kerry Washington. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Our special guest co-host, Laura La Rosa, is here. And we're still kicking it with Kerry Washington. Charlamagne? You talk about traveling.
Starting point is 01:03:35 In the Black Famous chapter, you talk about going to Africa. Yeah. To become African. Yeah. How did that trip change you? So I was filming Last King of Scotland. That was my first time on the continent. And it was great because I do feel like sometimes as black people in america we go to africa with all
Starting point is 01:03:49 these like do i belong here do i feel at home like what is my relationship here and i just had to put all of that aside because my focus was on just kind of dropping in and becoming a ugandan woman and i i really did feel at home there i did I felt so lucky to be able to be so immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like, you know, as a tourist. And I took it when I was there. I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's not in the book, but we were hiking in the Rwenzori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda and Uganda. And it's where the only wild gorillas live and you can go out with a gorilla trekker and
Starting point is 01:04:27 find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them you go with like a tour guide and these trekkers and these guys with AK-47s just in case and um I was just thinking like you really be walking to the pool with AK-47s
Starting point is 01:04:42 people travel from all over the world to have this experience because it is one of the most intense spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my experience with the whales that I write about at the end of the book. But it was like to be in the jungle, to be with these creatures. And you realize we really do share like 97, 98 percent of our DNA with these animals. And they are you start to think like, oh, they're so human. But no, like we are so gorilla. And the craziest thing that happened was when they give you this orientation in the morning, they're like, if a gorilla gets close to you and is looking at you,
Starting point is 01:05:13 the most important thing to do is not run. You have to, to feel safe, act like a gorilla. So I was like, wait a second. I couldn't do that around a white people. Wait a second. I'm telling you that right now. I was not going to say. See, I didn't hear it through that lens.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Because for me, I was like a young actor who had done animal exercises at school. Like, this was my opportunity. This was my Meryl Streep moment. So when the gorilla came down from the tree, I was like, I squat down. I mean, everybody in my group was like, what is she? When I tell you that is the best performance of my life, I was the gorilla. The gorilla was me. I picked off a leaf, started chewing on it.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And we had the most incredible experience because this gorilla kept getting closer and closer to us. And this little baby gorilla, she was so curious. She was like, wow, we've never seen a human like this. We don't act like that. No, she was like, that one's one of us but with clothes. So what did the gorilla do?
Starting point is 01:06:08 They just, they got closer, the trucker said, than they'd ever had a gorilla get to a group before. I mean, the guy with the AK-47 came right next to me
Starting point is 01:06:15 because they were terrified but I was like, don't stop, don't stop. Yeah, it was incredible. Were you the only person acting like a gorilla? Yeah. How do you know
Starting point is 01:06:21 they didn't tell you that just to be funny? Because the experience that we got out of it. I mean, they said it to everybody in the group, but I was the best actor in the group. Got you, got you, got you. Wow. Yeah. When all of this is done, like everybody gets the book, they get to read it.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Everybody should get the book. Yes, they will. I read the audio book. It's me and my own words. So that's fun. What is the hug or the message that you want people to get from this book? I think and this is something that I've written in the book, but there's a saying I heard a long time ago that I really love that we are as sick as our secrets. And that when I think when we can let go of the things that keep our true selves hidden,
Starting point is 01:07:06 we can let go of our shame. I knew when my parents told me, I realized that they had been living under this lie for so long that every time I had said I love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious, there must have been a part of him that thought, she loves me because she thinks I am her father. And there must have been a part of him that thought if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't love me.
Starting point is 01:07:30 That's part of why they didn't tell me. And so I had the opportunity once they gave me that truth to actually for the first time love my father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve. That's what we all want. We want to know that no matter what we do or how we act or what we've done in the past, that we're lovable and that we're loved. And I feel like my family's in that place now, but you only get there when you expose
Starting point is 01:07:56 your truth. When you're vulnerable enough to show people who you are and they love you anyway, then you know that you are worthy of unconditional love but i think your father proved that you know just because somebody provides sperm doesn't make them a father that's right he's an actual yeah that's right that's right and it's even like people will say like well do you know who your biological father is and i'm still wrapping my head honestly around that language like do you want to know who the donor is i was literally about to actually do i'm searching i'm looking and again not because i need a daddy right like i'm not looking for an emotional connection i'm really open i mean i say that now who knows when it was like you never know like he could walk in the room and i could be like um but i think
Starting point is 01:08:39 i'm just really curious about that 50 of me that, that genetic 50% of me. I think there is a question. I know what I've gotten from my dad. I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor, my imagination, my belief in the impossible, my ability to tell a story. I know what I've gotten from my mom, my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion. I don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm curious what part comes from him. And I'm curious just in terms of my medical history. I feel like I owe that to my kids,
Starting point is 01:09:12 that they should know where they come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm open to let it be what it's going to be. Maybe it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll just feel like I have additional information. I feel good either way. Can we end with something you said in the epilogue and I feel like it can relate to so many people you say my life is not about my donor nor about my parents my life is my own what does that mean to you and what could that mean to others yeah so when my parents told me
Starting point is 01:09:40 this information I realized because they had built this narrative, this false narrative about where I came from, I realized that in many ways, I had been the supporting character in their story, right? Like they were living this life. They were Earl and Valerie, parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class black family. Like i was the supporting character in that fable and when they gave me the truth i felt like part of why i wanted to write the book was that it was time for me to step into being the lead character in the story of my life to not let my life belong to them to say like i deserve to be on this journey this quest because I have my own story like I get it you had four decades of living this your way but it's my turn to kind of take this narrative
Starting point is 01:10:30 and figure out what my life means for me so I love my parents I do love being a supporting character in their life but that has to be a choice I have to know that fundamentally my life is my own and that they because I have the most incredible parents they now have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to be supporting characters in my story and a lot of what I've learned about parenting has been about that choice on their part because they have allowed themselves to be supporting characters for me in this moment which is humbling for all of us, but them in particular, right? And as I look forward at my kids, I realize this is my moment,
Starting point is 01:11:10 like this book, I am the protagonist of this book, but I'm also the supporting character in the story of my kids. And I want them to know that I have their back and that they have to live their own life. They shouldn't be living in the ways that make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making choices that are for my own good. They have to make the right choices for them in the ways that make me comfortable they shouldn't be making choices that are for my own good they have to make the right choices for them in the way that i'm making the right choices for me now well we appreciate you for joining us this morning thicker than water is out right now yeah well come see us on tour we're gonna be in chicago dc um atlanta la i'm gonna be in conversation with gabrielle union tyler, Bellamy Young, Tony Goldwyn. It's an incredible lineup. So come see us out on the
Starting point is 01:11:48 road. Get her out of here. She's holding in a cough. That's right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Are you someone who knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality? Someone who lives large in life and in the same. Are you someone who knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality?
Starting point is 01:12:10 Someone who lives large in life and in the bedroom, then live large and now thinner with new Magnum Raw condoms. The thinnest Magnum condom available where condoms are sold. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo. Put the breakfast club, bitch.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Donkey of the day. Put Charlemagne the guy. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this. Well, do all of your own people, okay? Donkey of the Day goes to Renee Don Skoglon. I know I pronounced her last name wrong. Probably wrong, yes. Okay, but Renee is from Florida, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And what does your Uncle Charla always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And today is no exception, okay? Renee is 30 years old. And she will spend two years under community control which is a form of house arrest eight years on probation and will have to pay a fine of more than 17 grand and personally i don't think that is enough in fact i think she should get actual prison time why uncle charla why are you wishing prison time on this woman well let's go to Fox 13 Tampa for the report, please. South Dakota resident Renee Scoglin is far from home and in legal hot water that even surprised the judge. This is really unbelievable. Scoglin's trail of lies started when she decided to come to
Starting point is 01:13:38 Tampa Bay and cheat on her husband. That she felt guilty about this due to her marital status and she wanted to get checked for sexual transmitted diseases. But she wanted to get tested for free. So she decided to call 911. Colglin made up a story about having car trouble and pulling over on the side of the road. An unknown male approached her. Because her face was covered, she couldn't describe her attacker.
Starting point is 01:14:04 When police checked her cell phone and found this walmart surveillance video of scoglin buying the rope herself she confessed to making the whole thing up she was charged with making a false police report and decided to take a plea deal she's not even from florida she's from south dakota came to florida and became a florida fool because it's in the water all right this woman made up a false rape report in florida to get a free std test let's just sit here for a second and take that in let me like my palo santo just think about that renee made up a false rape report in florida to get a free std test believe all women huh define all okay that's what we should have asked
Starting point is 01:14:45 when that foolish-ass slogan became part of our lexicon. What do you mean by all? Because women like Renee can't possibly be under the umbrella of all, correct? I have so many questions. Why didn't she just go to the clinic?
Starting point is 01:14:56 Okay, I did some research, and by research I mean Google, and all I did was type in free STD testing in Florida. It's a whole website called saferstdtesting.comcom it tells you all the clinics that are near you it says right here if you're looking for cheap std testing clinics in the state of florida to get an hiv herpes chlamydia gonorrhea syphilis or hepatitis screening for
Starting point is 01:15:16 yourself or your partner you can get tested today by selecting an option below to find an affordable std test clinic near you same day std testing locations also available with results in one to two days why didn't you just go to a free clinic now renee at the time was married and she lied about this sexual assault in an attempt to get a free std test after she had a one night stand in tampa so she cheated on her husband felt guilty about it so she decided to go get checked out for a std and instead of just going to guilty about it. So she decided to go get checked out for STD. And instead of just going to a doctor or clinic, she decided to lie about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Renee, what was your plan B?
Starting point is 01:15:55 OK, if that was plan A, what was plan B? This could have been the only plan, not to mention you lied about a rape claim so you could get a free STD test. So clearly you hard on money, but you had money to buy rope. We looked it up. The hollow braid rope that she bought is $22. Okay, how much is an STD test in Florida? According to Google, the cost of an STD test will vary by location and test type. Some clinics, usually community or nonprofit clinics, offer free or low-cost testing.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Labs, clinics, and at-home testing companies may accept insurance to cover or lower your cost of testing and lab testing fees range from eight dollars to 150 dollars you had money for an std test okay i saw other sources say that the std test in florida is 55 the test covers syphilis and hiv chlamydia gonorrhea herpes test 45 all i'm saying is if you had money for rope you could have gotten some money for std test hell you had money to travel from south dakota to tampa to creep in the first place okay renee what about condoms which you too can get free from the clinic all right two words for you renee planned parenthood they can help you get condoms and other birth control methods for free is that where inflation is taking us now where people can't even afford to cheat what happened to the good old days when you know you got an std and blamed
Starting point is 01:17:10 it on your significant other we used to be a country we are getting away from traditional values not to mention you nasty renee not only are you a despicable human who would lie about being raped you slept with your little side piece unprotected bareback shimmy shimmy y'all shimmy yeah shimmy yay you fought bare knuckle in the club and thought you lost that's why you went to go get an sd test okay lock this woman up all right put her under the jail there's too many women out here who are real victims who actually are dealing with the real trauma of being sexually assaulted and you out here lying simply because you cheated on your husband and did the raw dog roulette with another man? Huh?
Starting point is 01:17:48 Please give Renee Dawn Stoglone the biggest hee-haw. What a world we live in, man. Wild. You want to play a game? I do. All right. Let's play a game i do all right let's play a game of guess what race she is from south dakota traveled all the way to temple florida so she could do the raw dog roulette with a side piece thought she caught an std so she lied about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Mona, guess what race she is.
Starting point is 01:18:27 She is a Caucasian from the Caucasus Mountains. One of Yacoub's finest creations, Mona says. Jesus. Okay. DJ Envy. White. Well, don't call me white girl. And DJ Envy.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Yes, sir. You are both correct. Renee and Cartesian. She got made by Yakub on her ass cheeks. Jesus. Right? What did I win? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Nothing. Oh. You didn't win nothing. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?
Starting point is 01:19:12 Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 01:19:22 There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country?
Starting point is 01:19:38 My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 01:19:52 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast post run high is all about
Starting point is 01:20:27 it's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories their journeys and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together you know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout well that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a
Starting point is 01:21:22 mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J.Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny living. Restaurants stealing a birthday cake. Mess.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Wait, what flavor was the cake, though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially
Starting point is 01:22:14 those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence. And we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace and social circle. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. I shook up the world! James Brown said, say it loud! And Akiba said, I'm black and I'm proud.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Black boxing stars and black music royalty, together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet.
Starting point is 01:23:33 My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be.
Starting point is 01:23:52 We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is our special guest, and we have Omar Ebseyer. But also, Ebony K. Williams will be joining us next hour. And we talked about some statements that she said, and Lauren LaRosa was talking about it.
Starting point is 01:24:24 A lot of people were very passionate, so she's here to discuss so if you want to talk to ebony k williams she's going to be joining us you could get on the phone lines right now 800-585-1051 but right now let's get back into our conversation with omar epps all right charlamagne you know i love what you just said about uh the movies because i think about it even with a series like this because i saw you said you wish this book existed when you was a child yeah I don't know when the series is going to end but endings are very important because I think a lot of times in this art we talk about the problems but we never talk about the solutions and there never seems to be a happy ending whether it's minutes of society boys in the hood whatever it was juice there's really no happy ending well I think maybe maybe
Starting point is 01:25:04 because they're trying to teach a certain lesson a certain angle of the lesson you know and then that's making me think about certain songs where like yeah they they're not showing the glamorous part they show on the other part like we used to see in the rich and pose and all of them and all of that fly stuff but they're not showing you the heartache that comes along and so i think things are necessary with nubia i do have the ending but it also is an entryway into film television animation everything you could think of i have story points that we want to hit um so it's essentially i've created a my own universe that hopefully one day can be akin to like marvel that's what pains me about the nubia
Starting point is 01:25:45 series though because i love science fiction and i do feel like it needs to be a film a tv show i don't know if hollywood will ever make a real investment into sci-fi led by black people i'm not waiting on hollywood okay if i was waiting on hollywood the book would have never been written absolutely so we gonna we gonna do what we do which find a way. You know, we made a delicacy out of the scraps, meaning they threw us pig intestines and we made chili. Yeah. And we made them so good. They was like, can you make me a plate? This is what we do.
Starting point is 01:26:18 So hopefully it is in my lifetime. I mean, this is what I'm doing it for. But, you know, there's when I say there's more of us, I'm not talking about a color. I mean, like minded. There are more like minded people than what we see portrayed in the news and in blogs and stuff like that. So when people put their money where their mouth is and really support one another, then it enables us to go to those next levels to where we don't have to be fully dependent on other systems. Absolutely. Now, the three main characters of the book, I don't want to say their names wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Uzuchi, Lensho, and Zuberi. Thank you. So they are of this first generation to discover these powers. Yes. When I read about that part of it, it made me think about like just being first generation coming from certain like, you know, like I'm first generation college student or whatever. And you realize that you really can be put in a dark room and find the light right what is the message in this book to the first generation of anything like the the students the kids the you know i'm first generation to go to college i'm first generation to buy a house what message a millionaire yeah
Starting point is 01:27:18 like what do they take away from this from this book i mean there's there's a lot of things that take the i think the the one of the main themes for me is the idea of unity you know cats have spent twenty five hundred dollars on a belt because it has a certain name on it but if envy shirt kings or like fubu and them back in the day supreme and them back in the day they say yo the belt was five hundred dollars we like from you. Too much for your brand. Right. I'm going to go spend triple over there. Same quality. Right. And then you elevate and you'd be like, oh, they make all of these bags and stuff in the same factories. Same material, same everything.
Starting point is 01:27:56 But because we're blinded by a name, which comes with a perception, we don't know how to stand for. I was like, no, we have the spending dollars so we're gonna spend here where it really matters and let as killer mike's loop always talks about keeping the dollar circulating amongst us first before it goes out right so the theme of unity on on every level and the other thing i really want the young reader to take away is all the answers are already inside of you that's right i think we're born into this world in perfect harmony and in perfect balance like if we look at the creation the world as we know it everything that's alive is like an instrument and it's this magnificent symphony and everything plays a part from an ant
Starting point is 01:28:44 to an elephant to a tree everything plays a part from an ant to an elephant to a tree. Everything plays a part. The only thing that seems to be playing out of tune is human beings. We're the ones playing out of tune, playing the wrong notes. So I say that to say that the answers are already inside, right? They already are permeating through you physiologically and spiritually. Part of the conundrum of life is to then you sort of unlearn what is innately in you, product of environment, schooling,
Starting point is 01:29:11 all of these things. And then you spend your latter life unlearning that to get back to the source. So I imagine a world where right now college is a four-year process. What if one day college is a year process? what could that person do with that other three years in terms of being productive and if you put a bunch of those type of people together i mean we still marveling over i don't know twitter and facebook it's like i ain't curing cancer though that's right you know what i mean what what happened what do we do in a world where like tylenol cancer don't matter what kind oh just go to pharmacy that's five dollars ain't nothing right imagine how much more productive we could be as a species like the
Starting point is 01:29:50 fact that we're in 2024 and people are still hung up on skin color and again i don't mean white black this is light-skinned dog skin stuff oh that's some license though you know me and marlin deal with that all the time you call it baby beige rage. No, but he be in here. It is some like this stuff. But it ain't his fault. It's no. And every time it happens, it's his nature. Every time it happens, we give him grace.
Starting point is 01:30:12 That's not fair. That's not fair. We give him grace. Charlamagne does the same thing. And I say his complexion, they attack me. But he call me beige rage, beige, beige, everything under the sun. It's because of your behavior. And it's funny.
Starting point is 01:30:24 But if I say black anything to him yeah you can't do it see why we're black but what you are black exactly so what's the problem but this is what i'm talking about the fact that even we are dominican i'm not dominican stop it you better stop it you don't even claim stop it stop it charlotte man i gotta stop you you look more Dominican than he does. Thank you. You been to Washington Heights lately? Thank you. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Now, what Omar said is so true, and it's amazing to me that most things that are man-made take you out of alignment.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yep. And I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense, though, right? It does make sense. That's why when people get caught up in this AI, I'm like, it's man-made. So there's flaws in it. We just can't see it yet. Ain't nothing to trip over.
Starting point is 01:31:07 You know what I mean? And it's about being in tune with who we are and who we're here to be. And what is our purpose? And our purpose is to spread love and spread positive energy. And you get to a point where we all are. We still have ambition. We still have drive. But we're pushing.
Starting point is 01:31:23 It's a hell of a thing to be pushing for yourself and then push for others when you're pushing for others now you're really serving your purpose and it's a really it's a it's a fulfillment that no dollar amount could fill when just passing off the information or the knowledge to someone and then go and see them walk run and then fly it's just a feeling that, to me, this is what life is about. One of the grand themes that life is about. The older I get, the less I want. Here you go.
Starting point is 01:31:52 You know, because the things that I actually want, money can't buy. They're not superficial in any way, shape, or form. There you go. All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Lauren LaRosa here, our special guest host. Still kicking it with Omar Epps. What you having three kids? Would you want your three kids to be in the industry, acting or music? Would you want them seeing what you've seen?
Starting point is 01:32:21 Because you've seen behind the scenes. You pulled the curtain back so would you want them to to do that i mean i'm human so i think whatever whatever it is i don't care if you a race car driver mechanic bus driver like we all want our kids to do something other than what be great you know what i mean be great at that thing but underneath it all i just want them to follow their passion you know whatever brings them joy if it's you know our youngest daughter she's a singer songwriter that's her gift but she's putting in the work for it and that's the main thing you know nothing's gonna come to you easy but if you're putting in the work for it and that's your passion i'm behind it see this is good it's
Starting point is 01:32:57 good in situations like that because mom and dad have been there so so you can guide where maybe you didn't have that guy because maybe your mom didn't know how to look at contracts and look know what to look for you know i mean so it's good that you're there but it's just you know it's a difficult thing because you're like damn the stress that i went through dealing with this industry yeah but you know what what you're saying is right in essence but realistically it's a totally different world because this this a completely different universe from selling a physical record to a stream and the business in between that. Correct. It's a whole different world.
Starting point is 01:33:28 So it was like, yeah, your moms did that, but not like this. Is she momager? Huh? Are you guys managing? Oh, momager, you said. Yeah. You act like mom's not right here. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Because he mentioned it. She's a heavy-handed advisor. I wouldn't say momager. Heavy-handed advisor. advisor. That's what I would say. My mom is a heavy handed advisor. OK. All right. Yeah. What's your favorite method of storytelling? Is it TV?
Starting point is 01:33:52 Is it films or the books? It depends on the story. You know, like like when I was thinking of Nubia, I saw film, I saw television, I saw all these things. But I knew that's not the delivery system right now you know i'm saying you're gonna have to crawl through this process crawl and meaning a good thing like there's just so much story this that the depth of the story can only be done in book form in its initial phase once that's established to an audience and they're familiar with oh yeah that's the blah blah blah then we can take it other places and so we're still in
Starting point is 01:34:25 this is phase one if you will but other other than that i just love art man it doesn't matter like i said earlier i think there's an art to cooking there's an art to everything there's art to business you know it just depends on you know what you connect to and what makes you happy and and for me the prime goal is to is is like i realize the weight of everything that i'm a part of is going to outlast me so why am i really doing this who am i doing it with it's not just a self-fulfilling thing anymore you know what i mean like the the greatest compliments to this day the greatest compliments that i received was when people come up to me and say something that i was in you know helped them through or inspired them to i had a a young
Starting point is 01:35:12 doctor come up to me and was talking about a show that i was on medical shows on and they were just like the portrayal of that character helped them through a tough time while they were in med school ready to give up and to me that was like getting a million dollar check because I'm like, this is exactly what I do it for. You know what I mean? Like to be able to pass on what was passed on to me. I really do want to know how you wrap your mind around what's going on in 2098. I mean, it's to me, it's simple. I think humans are going to human. And then geographically, like, again again whatever happens in the next 20 30 years there's gonna be a world after that so that's creative license well that's kind of looking
Starting point is 01:35:52 if we i mean sadly if we take a cue from what happened with sandy the lower part of the city would be underwater and then same same rules apply with where's all the money at now uptown all right let's ramp that up a little bit more humans have fused with technology let's you know you get to take creative license but the more things change the more they stay the same man you know i'm saying like like in the hood everybody wants to talk about new world order no it's one world order that's the actual term and that's been for thousands of years there's always going to be a group of few that try to control the many it ain't nothing new there's no conspiracy it's right there dead in front of your face it's just how you perceive it you know what i mean but there's something to perceive as well is that the victory is already won and whether the listeners
Starting point is 01:36:40 whether you a believer or not i'm not and you know putting my beliefs on anyone whether you a believer or not, I'm not, you know, putting my beliefs on anyone. I'm a believer in the victories already won. The table of victory with the most beneficent is already set. So there's a part of us that we've gone through the motions. Choose your side. Choose wisely and live your life and your characters determined by your actions. Period. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:37:02 So, you know, hopefully when it's my time my actions will be met by the eternal glory you play so many iconic roles does it ever bother you when somebody calls you one of the names from the iconic roles like i'm sure you walk down the hall i love it that doesn't bother me at all no no that doesn't bother me at all i'm cool with that when people call me like, yo, Makai. I'm like, that's my mans and all that. But I know we look alike. They say we all look.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Come on, bro. Because people are stupid. They even like, yo. They're going to say, Charlamagne. They're like, yo, Mike. I'm like, Mike? Mike? Mike Epps. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Oh, that's nuts. Well, I'm like, come on, yo. That's nuts. I can see Makai, but not Mike Epps. Where is this happening? All over. It's just random. I can see Makai would not fight him. Like where is this happening? Like you just out and about? It's just random. Like sometimes I wonder if people are just,
Starting point is 01:37:49 it's like if someone saw you and they're like, oh, I know. You got called Will.i.am? Yeah, I did get called Will.i.am. That is crazy. I'm just saying you should just start answering this stuff. Morris Chestnut, but nobody ever heard of him. Morris Chestnut said that.
Starting point is 01:38:02 You know what's interesting though? Morris Chestnut said somebody called him Charlamagne. Yeah, he said on Jennifer Hudson, so he said he gets mistaken for me. That's a goddamn lie. Do you see it? Why you mad at God, Omar? Tell me.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Do you see it? Why you mad at God, engineering? I'm just going to resign this. God battles on the sand. Why you mad at God? Why are you upset about my life? You saw the Dominican in him.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Do you see it? Knock it off. He definitely... Y'all got to take him up to Washington. Omar got to go now. We did have a debate about who your favorite, who the best Omar Epps character was. I think your best role is Jay Reed in Too Deep.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I think that's a very slept on role. How about I haven't done it yet? Ooh. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, there you have it.
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