The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Royce Da 5'9" & Courtney Bell, Cheryl McKissack & Don Peebles, Joey Badass and More)

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

Today, we flash back to when Royce Da 5'9" & Courtney Bell came on the show to discuss 'The Heaven Experience', owning his masters, Slaughterhouse and more.  We also look back at the interview with Cheryl McKissack & Don Peebles where they discuss The 'Affirmation Tower', minority developers, equality and more.  Finally, we brought back the Joey Badass interview where he talks about his new album, Jay-Z, Diddy, Emotional Intelligence, Processing Grief and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,

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We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.

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Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I'm DJ Envy. And I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God with the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.

And currently we are on vacation. Man, totally disconnected. Yes. We're not even really here. You think you're listening to us, but we're not. Well, we are not. We're here in spirit. Yeah.

Yeah. And we're going to be playing some of our top interviews and some throwbacks. So keep it locked. Red is going to be running the boards and we'll see you all in the new year. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's go.

This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or black. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Good morning. This is Sandra.

Oh my God, I can't believe I made it through. I'm so excited to talk to you guys. Hey, Sandra. Good morning. Good morning to this is Sandra. Oh my god, I can't believe I made it through. I'm so excited to talk to you guys. Hey, Sandra. Good morning. Good morning to you guys. The epitome of black elite. You guys are great. Aw, man. Thank you, Sandra. I just want to get off my chest that I think Biden was wrong for just getting BG out. I think they should have fought harder to get the Marine out. He fought for our country.

I mean, it wasn't an even trade. I get it 100%, but I just think he should have fought harder to get Bo Hickle out. I don't disagree. You know, I'm happy BG is home, but I don't disagree. That's all I have to say, but thank you guys. Yes, ma'am. Love you guys. Have a great day.

Thank you so much. Bye. Hello, who's this? What's up, Envy? What's up, Trav? I'm about to say Yee. What's up? If you're listening, good morning, Yee.

What's up, Char? What up, sis? How you? I'm doing good. Listen, y'all. An injustice is finally being brought to the light. That happened to me, y'all. What happened?

What happened? Remember I told y'all a couple years back- Oh, about the rectal prolapse. About what? Never mind, what happened? That Roland Ray has scammed me Out of $85 And y'all, the same room finally brought it to the light That he a scammer And that he a scammer

Y'all know how you feel about getting scammed now How did he scam you? How did he scam me? Why would you send him $85? Because I paid him $85 I told y'all this Why would you send him $85? Because I paid him $85. I told y'all this. I paid this man $85 to post me for this thing that has,

for I don't play on the LGBT community. He had like a bunch of like gay and like, you know, LGBT followers. And he took my money and just disappeared. And they did an investigation on him yesterday and lock him up and bring me to testify. Cause I'm snitching. I'm telling on him.

Yeah, we're going to report that story next year. It says Roland Ray, a.k.a. the most famous boy in a wheelchair, has been accused by several social media users of being a scammer. He is a scammer. And I'm snitching on him. Please, lock him up. Send him to prison. Allegedly, they claim that people pay him for shout-outs. $76 to $100

for shout-outs, but after sending the money, they say he took their cash and rolled out. Salute to Roland Ray, man. Salute to Roland Ray. Roland Ray out here hustling, man. Drop one of Clues bombs for Roland Ray, man. No, no. Don't drop one of Clues bombs. Nah, man. Roland Ray out here

hustling, man. You know what know i'm saying y'all bothering that man for shout outs you know i mean i need to be charging y'all for shout outs i'm not mad at rolling ray go ahead rolling ray do your thing bro when you report it you know somebody personally who he scammed it's not allegedly rolling ray ain't scamming nobody y'all asking that man for shout out for him he'll get he'll get to it when he get to it. When he get to it. That's right. He got some things on his mind. He'll get to shouting y'all out when he get to it. It's been a year, son. Well, he backed up.

Clearly, he got a long log. He gonna roll up on you soon. Don't worry about it. Bye. Mad at that man. Bothering that man for shout-outs, man. Hello, who's this? It's your boy, O'Neal from Houston, Texas.

O'Neal from H-Town. What up? Get it off your chest, brother. Yeah, I want to give a shout out to my boy DJ Authentic, a.k.a. DJ Envy on a good season one, episode eight of East New York. You did your thing, man. Thank you, brother. You know, I was excited to do that.

And they're going to bring me back. I think I'm on the first episode in the new year. And hopefully they bring me back for some other stuff man i'm excited about it man i love that series the show is really good if you haven't seen it it's called east new york is on cbs great show and i'm just excited he definitely snitched on me he's snitching he's definitely gonna snitch the next episode i held it down if the first episode so they're gonna break them they ain't breaking me yeah well also uh i want to say uh that uh hip-hop homicides, that's also good with Papa Smokes. Man.

It's hip-hop homicides, first of all. Yeah, I say homicides the same way. Where you from? I'm from Louisiana, but I stay in Houston. Yeah, it's a sovereign thing, I guess, because I say hip-hop homicides, too, but it's homicides. Hey, that's one of the best shows on TV, man. Salute to Van Lathan and 50 Cent, Mona Scott Young. That's one of the best shows on TV, man. Salute to Van Lathan and 50 Cent. Mona Scott Young. That's one of the best shows on television, man.

Yeah, this week they're going to be diving into the murder of XXX Attention. It's Tentacion. Tentacion. Tentacion. Yeah. And then after that, they're going to do Moe 3 from Dallas. And then they're going to do, damn, I don't want to say his name wrong. FBG Duck.

Yeah. Out in Chicago. Right. I got a feeling they're going to do one on i don't want to say his name wrong uh fbg duck yeah out of chicago right i got a feeling they're gonna do one on takeoff too well not well not this year because those are the last three that they got xxxx on uh motori and fbg duck but like i said the way that you know so many of our hip-hop stars are passing and being killed i mean this show it can continue on i like how they do the show because because the show addresses like all the socio-economic conditions that lead to things like this happening they deal with people's trauma they deal with a lot of these brothers hurt and anger so it's not just exploitation of a murder you know correct they talk to the right people. They talk to the right people, the family members, people involved, police officers, special agents, friends, pastors. And then they try to get a solution of why, you know, hopefully this can be solved and stopped and maybe.

It's a good show, bro. Y'all need to keep watching it. For people that ain't watching, I ain't going to give too much about it. But, hey, it's a good show. Right. And you can stream it on All Black. And they got all the episodes up there. Shout out to Van Lathan, man. He does an amazing job on that show. All right, man. Y'all's a good show right and you can stream it on all black uh and they got all the episodes up there shout out to van layton man he did he does an amazing job on that show all right man y'all have a good morning please king get it off your chest it's the breakfast club good morning

the breakfast club get it off your chest hey i just want to get off my chest man i just want to give you a good both you and charlamagne you guys flowers actually because, actually, because, honestly, you know, y'all pushed, you know, y'all helped me push through a whole summer with, like, you know, just, like, listening to y'all every day, and it's also just, you know, during school and all that stuff, and I just want to give y'all, both of y'all, y'all flowers, you know, as a brown man and all that stuff, like, you know, y'all really, like, you know, gave a lot of motivation for me and all that stuff, and it's like, you know, I had a lot of laughter, too, also, so I just want to give y'all flowers and all that stuff. I had a lot of laughter too, so I just wanted to give you all

flowers and all that stuff. Thank you. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. Appreciate you, brother. For sure. Y'all have a good morning now. You too, man. Hello, who's this? What's going on? This is Sean. Sean, what up? Get it off your chest. Hey, man. I just wanted to get it off my chest this morning.

First of all, let me say good morning, Salomone. Good morning. You know what I'm saying? Good morning, fellas. How y'all doing today? I'm doing good, brother. How you feeling? I'm doing good, man.

I'm celebrating my birthday, you know what I'm saying? So I'm lit right now, man. I'm on my way to work, actually. You know, I just wanted to let y'all know, man, I really appreciate y'all in the morning time. I appreciate that. I really appreciate you today, man, like in the morning time, man. You know what I'm saying?

Y'all give me that perk, you know what I'm saying, to get me through the day, man. I appreciate that. All right. Thank you, brother. Thank you, King. Yes, sir. And Sean, I wanted to ask you about your book, too, man. Can I get it?

Is there any way possible I can get a copy of it? I don't have any at the current moment. I have to get a new shipment of Black Privilege and Shaquan in. But as soon as I get them, I can get your information and we can send it out at a later date. But I can send you a Black Effect snapback right now. You know, my

podcast network, Black Effect. I can send you that right now. Oh, yeah. That's dope. Yes, sir. I appreciate that. Hold on, bro. Okay. Yeah, Taylor read one of y'all. Put him on hold. Get his email and send that out today, please. He's line three. Hello, who's this? Hello, this is Messiah the One.

Hey, I'm a style writer. I want advice on how to move my book forward, like getting involved with publishing companies and things of that nature. Have you written a book yet, sir? Excuse me? Have you written a book? Yes, I have. Have you self-published?

Yeah, yeah, I self-published it. I sent it to you one day, Charlemagne, up to the radio station. I don't know how. What's the name of it? It's called Real S.H.I., The Presence of the Baby Boy. Oh, man, I got to look for that one. Yeah, I sent it like maybe a month ago. I told Envy, too.

I gave Envy a copy for all of y'all. But he said, you know, he's busy. He works, you know. Well, I can't tell you the process of how to get it done. But, you know, I have a book publishing company called Black Privileged Publishing through Simon & Schuster. We put out Tamika Mallory's State of Emergency, How to Win in the Country We Built. And we put out Anita Kopach's Shallow Waters. And we have some amazing releases on the way.

So, all I can tell you is that I will definitely look for your book and check it out. And, you know, you can leave your information, but I can't give you no information on how to get a book deal. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, what I would tell you is keep doing what you're doing. I mean, I think you try to give me the book at the car show, but I would keep popping up at these places where people are and trying to sell that book. And it's like anything else. It's like back in in the day you got to go hand in hand you got to

be out there selling and pitching you know yeah i'm always looking for fresh authors i'm not gonna lie i mean i have a lot of we have a lot of releases coming on black privilege publishing from a you know a lot of people that folks know but i'm always looking for fresh publishers that got great stories so i'm gonna look for that book my brother yeah well get it off your chest the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club you know some people have to wait a certain amount of time some people had to pay people it's just a conversation so what was the process which you get your master back all of the above all the conversation time yeah but you know when you when you have,

when you sign, you know, from our era, when we did deals, it was standard for the labels to have control of the master for like seven years. And then some of it was, oh, let me buy that back. And then some of it, you know, it was all three. You talked a lot of the Detroit artists,

because Detroit is a new wave of artists coming out. Do you get a chance to speak with the younger artists and say, hey, this is how you should be signing your deals or is it one of those things when you're young you're like ah we know what we're doing anyway no i speak to him as much as i can this is one of them okay this dude is like enlightened beyond his years but there's a few artists that i kind of mentored not to the degree of him but there's a lot of companies they come with a bag of money they don't have much to offer. But since they have money up front and they're catching these guys at a time where they kind of need money or they feel like that they need money.

It's already in the contract. I actually read somebody's proposal and it said we will have ownership of the master in perpetuity. And then we'll split everything 60 40 60 us 40 you and 40 you, and give you a $5,000 advance. And he was thinking about signing that. For $5,000? God damn. Because. Looking at it as an opportunity. Yeah, because we don't.

For $5,000? Number one, we program the thing short-sighted. Correct. We have no kind of idea of how to place value on that master so early on. We don't know what it's going to be worth until it comes out and then it goes and then it's like damn okay now i know a little bit more now i want to go get the master back now it's the same old song and dance publicly from a public platform you bashing some company or something like that which that don't look good either it's an

investment the problem is we don't always understand the complexity of the deals but you can't be mad because you can't be mad you have to have an attorney so that means your attorney looks over that paperwork in most cases yeah but your attorney is their attorney that's right we got we i give you an attorney it's just an attorney you can have an attorney but you know how that conversation came up in the car? I said, do you think it's possible for me, a black man, to cultivate a real meaningful relationship with an artist and own his masters? And I said, yeah. For any period of time? I think so.

Is there any point where that artist is going to get a little bit wiser, a little bit bigger, and then look at it in retrospect. Is it possible for him or her not to harbor some resentment? Yeah, I agree with you, Royce. Like when that artist catches that hit, it has to be a point where it said, OK, I made my money back off the investment because it's not just $5,000. You got to pay for travel. You got to pay for war. That's the biggest part. You're paying for traveling.

You're paying for shows. What would your renegotiation be? It depends how big the record is. Like, perfect example, right? Cardi B. When Cardi B was first signed, they put a lot into Cardi B. But then she took off. That should have been a renegotiate right then and there. You got

one of the biggest female artists. Give her half the company. But then what happens when you got five Cardi B's on your label? Exactly. And that's what I was going to say, too, about the Masters conversation. It's about the investment you put in them.

You know what I mean? I don't want none of your Masters if I didn't make a large investment. But if I made a large investment, eh, I can see why. I got to get it back. We're going to be held to a different standard

than the labels would be. You hear the way you talk about Hov, Puff. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't nobody talk about Lior. Don't nobody talk about none of these labels. Correct let ho do something let chug do something let any of us do something then it's just like oh man you wrong how could you do that you know i mean but when you invest in somebody you're paying for everything right so you're paying for studio

time you're paying for them lights to be on you're paying for the engineer you're paying for the food the per diem the water traveling hotels wardrobe if they don't have it now he has to make a record if that record don't pop you don't get none of that money back so and you're doing it on some family and that creates a sense of entitlement that's why i asked in the context of building cultivating the relationship because you know we do everything on some on some family you know so it's difficult to be able to do that kind of business and cultivate a relationship. Is that the other problem, too, though, that black executives do do the family thing? We're a family.

We rock for life. We bad boy for life. Isn't that just be more business? That's what it always feels like. Even when you look at Meek signing to Ross or Drake and, you know, Nicki signing to Wayne. It's a family. It's a family it's a family when we win yeah but then when you start throwing them bricks out then it's f that person that you

just called your family you know yeah yeah I know I know I don't I don't have to say that because I mean but we it's we want it is kind of what it is that's where we come from though in our culture we come from broken families so the ability to make money with our family, it ain't just music. I mean, it could be the dope game, too. But at the end of the day, it still starts with leadership. I went out there when Puff was working on the press play album. I went out there to work for him. And this nigga had me in like a midi room just writing verses over and over and over again

while he was in the big luxurious A-room with all of his celebrity friends and shit. And I was just like, man, this nigga ain't paid me. know i'm saying like this behind me about 10 years later after i was a little wiser i looked at him in retrospect man i had to hit him on a dm i didn't have his number i had to hit him on a dm man to tell him how much i appreciate him how much i took from that like it was because of that process that i started to rewrite in my own creative process like i was like i didn't rewrite my own this much why don't i approach my but this same kind of intensity i pulled that from it and just the opportunity you know i mean like sometimes man we take for granted the opportunity and i looked at him and thought about how many great things

he's contributed to the culture and how much all of the bad stuff or the quote unquote bad stuff is always placed in front of us. Same with baby. I wish I could call baby and tell him how great I think he is. You know what I mean? Because it's like every time you hear about these guys, it's all they're on drugs. They doing this, kissing this, taking them off, doing this. But it's like, bro, these been existing since 1997. If that was anybody

else from any other culture of people, them a**es would be running the universe. We have to appreciate, even Dame, I seen Dame this weekend. I was on a panel with him. In the middle of the panel, I had to say thank you. He was like, for what? I was like, back then when I was doing mixtapes, even though it was like

99, I was like, you had an opportunity to do the rockefeller mixtapes with clue with sns with flex but you said you wanted a young dj at the time you picked me and i was like thank you because you were cheaper you know he was shocked that i said thank you but i was like you know what when you grow a little bit you you really understand how how grateful it was to have that opportunity. Because we don't have those opportunities. But I will say, though, 10 years ago, you wasn't no new ****, Royce. No, no, no, no. I was saying 10 years later from when that was.

You remember the press playoff. Yeah, but even with that, Royce, the Five Nights should have been treated with a little bit more respect, I think. No, no, no. I was on a private jet with him. We went to Tampa. Oh, okay, okay. It was just when we was up at Daddy's house. You remember how long ago Daddy's house was.

All right, we got more with Royce, the 5'9". When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?

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After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and

very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.

I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages.

One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nemany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families

called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat

on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records, because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher.

That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America.

You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Royster59.

And I gotta ask, slow the house. Are y'all back on good terms? I don't know what month this was, what week it was. I happened to turn on slow down. So y'all back on good terms? I don't know what month this was, what week it was. I happened to turn on Instagram, and I seen y'all arguing on Instagram. You were the middleman. You were the one trying to calm things down, and they were going back and forth. And I just turned around. I was like, I can't see these brothers arguing anymore.

So y'all back good? I mean, I can never say we bad. You know what I mean? Listen, man, we spent 10 years together, man. Damn near every day building something special. You know what I mean? And it just ended in a very unfortunate way. But I can't just sum it up like that.

No, we haven't spoken. Two of the guys, Crooked and Joel, made some decisions that we can't really come back from in terms of business. That's really it. The decision was they decided to do their own group or do their own thing together i'll give you the short version but me and joe sitting around minding our own business and we look up and they they start rolling out a project the project was called the rise and fall of slaughterhouse they put this project out and the project is announcing to the world that the group is over and this is why we had already went through a long negotiation with with shady to pull the group off the label so we can do things moving forward so we can make another album so we can relaunch

merchandise so we can relaunch everything slaughterhouse so y'all gonna do another album even joe was gonna do get in the studio and do another album at that time absolutely okay the whole album was basically about how joe knock on rap crooked came to the table with it with a deal idea we didn't want to do it so they over it they're done the group is done and i just felt like that was a hell of a thing to blindside me with as a friend and as a business partner because number one if the group is gonna be over over, that's fine. Things end. Let me know that. Or if you're going to go public and say that you're done with the group, that's cool. But don't just go public and just announce that the group is done. I expected more out of Crooked.

I didn't have as much of a problem with Joel because, you know, me and Joel always been cool. But me and Crooked, I thought we were better than them. You know what I mean? So it was more of a personal thing. You know what I mean? But I can't bring myself to a point where I can get on a public platform and bash any of them though.

You know what I mean? I got too much love for them. And I think the amount of love I got for them is what made me so disappointed. Bun told me, like when we first, when Slaughterhouse first became a thing, he called me and said,

anytime I ever aired out anything publicly, if it involved family i always regretted it and that always resonated with me since that conversation i've went and done that probably 50 times and i regretted it every time so you know so that's one of the things that i'm working on so to answer your question no no more slaughterhouse but still nothing but love always i respect everything as you said and i feel like that should have been an easy conversation for Crooked and Joel. Because Joel don't want to rap. So if he don't want to rap, there's no soul in the house.

So why shouldn't they be able to go do their own project? Well, it's easy to paint Joel as that. Because of how many things he said publicly. But when we're having conference calls. And he's a part of every call. And we're having creative conversations about what we're gonna do next you know what i mean he was gonna get back in there do it joe's thing is i'm retired doing i'm in the content space but i'm really into ownership right now i will rap in

slaughterhouse if we own it it can't be on shady and if we decide to take it to another label i would be particular on how we would do that deal because we already built it. This is something we built already. As y'all should. And I agree. It shouldn't just sit on Shady. If Shady doesn't want to release it, then this is respectfully because I love them too, always. So to get to that point with Joe being way more knowledgeable, obviously myself being way more knowledgeable, and then just having it in our possession and for them to just jump the gun like that because of a deal that he put on the table which he that's never been his

role in the group but i mean anything that anybody put on the table i would consider it but i think that we should be allowed to ask questions right all right if i put something on the table for us and you ask questions or even if you say no does that mean everything is over or does that mean we go to another label we hadn't talked to any other labels yet we hadn't even talked to a label in that situation we talked to a guy who was talking to a label we never had nothing on paper there never was a proposal in black and white for us to look at it was just a conversation he didn't like how the conversation went so he decided we're to go do this. Playing devil's advocate, right? Do you feel like... White devil's advocate. White devil's advocate.

We know Joe is doing well with his content, creating everything that he's doing. You're obviously doing well. Could it be a situation where maybe Joel and Crooked weren't doing as well? Because the group was so much financial for them. I mean, y'all were going on tours.

I don't think y'all ever really got the money that y'all deserve yet you feel like maybe that was their way of saying look i gotta feed my family at the end of the day possibly and i mean listen that makes it even worse because it's like bro if that's what it was we who are you supposed to have been talking to i understand the ups and downs so if it's if this is a down time because there's been plenty of things that i've done that i've done because i wanted one of my rules in the group was i don't like i'm not doing any three-man shows all members got to be there there's been plenty of times joe couldn't make it where they were like yo listen we need you to come do this because we need the money and i

did it like royce is gonna be political it was a bad deal there were times when when joe was ready to rap and we couldn't get crook to rap they don't talk about that you know what i'm saying like crook always ready to rap who didn't want no see see what i'm saying see see people got the wrong impression about people and that's why joe is easy to paint as a certain thing he's an easy target yeah and crook and joel look like they look like the blue collar guys. Correct. You know, the guys who, you know, will in a row, they sleeves up, all that. Mm-hmm.

Crook, he had his ways about him the whole time. He always had some issue with Joe that he wouldn't address. It was always in the air. I can't quite put my finger on what that was, but this nigga done made Joe diss records. He done did all types of shit. You know what I'm saying?

People just didn't hear him. And there was a time where he was like nah i ain't rapping nobody went out and put out an album about him not rapping and saying that the group was over with it's just it's messy and then on the business side it's like yo you you're not up our you up your too and then you know like during the whole process you had to paint me in a certain light in order to be able to do that and i'm just trying to figure out what what did i do to deserve that yeah and i mean there's no reconciling because i heard uh i heard people getting invited to the frank stand i never did didn't somebody say smd on one of those calls oh no no no joe

frank stand joe yeah joe said that project that project at smd he said that project, that project at SMD. He said that project. Yeah, that project that sucked my s***. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe it was the project. So, yeah, maybe that's not true. Yeah, when I started seeing all that,

I was like, you know what, enough said. That was just some Joe s*** to say, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't like, Joel know how Joe talk. You know what I mean?

So, that wasn't, that wasn't really nothing. That was one of them things where you can take it, you can take it super, super offensive and personal if you choose to but joel said a lot of he said a lot of weird stuff too you know i mean like everybody played their part i'm i'm holding myself accountable for the for the part that i played too you know i mean but i mean it's a little what did you play you

think i mean you're making it hard for me because I don't do much wrong, Charlie. I just, I just, I just, I did that thing that I was talking about. I went on Joe's show and I was frustrated. And my reaction to what they did caused Crook to react to how I reacted. What he said made me block him. It made me block him on social media and made me block his number. Because I don't, I love him too much and I don't want nothing else to get said that's gonna put me up there you know i mean so and i don't feel like there's anything that should go on in the rap space that should even bring you to that you know i mean but we all we all garden something you know

i mean like we all garden rather it's our egos we come from environments where the measuring stick cool there's some souped up tough guys you know i mean like everybody's like watch how you talk to me respect me but everybody ain't being so respectful you know so well we appreciate you brothers for joining us good to see y'all guys it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same when it's time to get with someone special the best way to do it is with magnum large size condoms that gold foil wrapper is a badge of honor and it means you're protected and you take care of things with comfort except no substitutes bring the pleasure with the gold standard magnum large size condoms it's topic time.

Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about Kevin Gates. Anyway, open up the phone lines, 800-585-1051. Now, Kevin Gates posted this on twitter yesterday if a woman comes in the bathroom and talks to me while i'm taking an ish i find that very romantic

now do you like when your um wife comes in the bathroom and has a conversation with you absolutely not that's not something that we do i hate poop first of all don't like it i know everyone does it but it's literally one of my least favorite things to do i don't look at it when it's in the toilet i know some people like to look at it and make sure it's like you know in the shape of the superman logo like i don't do yeah i don't do none of that you know i mean i think when you are moving vows it's a sacred experience and you should expel waste by yourself i don't want my wife in the bathroom with me while i'm pooping there's nothing cute about that there's nothing sexy about that i mean to me kevin gates that's his to him to each his own when to me. No. Yeah, I feel the same

I don't I don't see that the sex of it I don't want to have a conversation although I set up shop when I go to the bathroom though like I said like I'm not in the bathroom for like 30 seconds I'm Magazine, I mean books. No, I got my phone. No, I'm too old So my lady something I might be paying my bills. I'm like I Really take my time like I sometimes I'm on old. I'm doing something. I might be paying my bills. I really take my time. Sometimes I'm on there so long my feet fall asleep.

That happens to me all the time, and I don't even got to be on there long. That's why I don't do it no more. I like them step stools. My sister Alicia Renee told me a long time ago to get one of them stools. It's like a squatty potty. There you go. When you put your legs up while you're pooping. So you put your legs up while you poop?

That's just too much, but I will tell you something. When I got a colonic, I did that was amazing i'm not gonna lie what part did you like what the colonic part i like the whole process okay i mean it's a little uncomfortable but i'm talking about like when the after you the colonic is done you got to go sit on the toilet in the colonic place and she had a squatty potty in there and i'm not gonna lie man i don't know if it was the colonic or the squatatter Potty But it dumped Like you dumped Dumped Dumped

You know what I mean It felt good And my legs weren't sleepy When I got up I'm glad you found it good But yeah To answer your question No I don't want my woman

In the bathroom with me While I'm taking a poop Nah me neither And I don't want to be in there With her while she's taking a poop Nah me neither Hello who's this Hey what's up

This is Sam Representing the Bronx Hey what's up bro We're talking about You know pooping in front of your partner. Alright, so check this out. Think about it. Normally, how many people have you pooped in front of? What? I've never thought about it like that. Damn, not even very few.

Nobody besides my wife. And this is when it has to happen. I don't think I've ever pooped in front of my wife my mama when i was a baby so the highest level of intimacy is pooping in front of your partner no it's not no more intimate than that that is not true romantic that's just simply not romantic so and only my wife only comes in the bathroom and she has to like it might like she might need something out the bathroom and when she comes in there she's's coming in, like, full gas mask on, like, ah! And by your logic, you might as well walk around with a diaper on and let your wife change you and wipe you and all kind of stuff. Is that intimate, too? Absolutely.

It's all special. Have a blessed day, sir. Have a blessed day. Don't kink shame him. Have a blessed day. Don't kink shame him. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on?

This is a shop. What's up, DJ? This is lit. I'm walking on the radio. This is lit. It's lit. That's a fact. You poop in front of your What's up, DJ? This is lit. I'm on the radio. This is lit. It's lit. That's a fact. You poop in front of your partner, though, bro?

I'm sorry? You poop in front of your partner? Yeah, I do. Definitely, you got to. Because that lets you know that you got a real one. That means that they down for the hit. You know what I'm saying? Boy, y'all got some weird ways to make sure that your woman is real.

No, because you have to. Because that's something natural, and people be like, ew, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you first start dating somebody, like, you know how many farts you hold in? Yeah, that's not healthy. You gotta let it out. So somebody that you can feel comfortable with,

that let you, you good. First of all, don't open and all that. We have conversations. First of all, I don't fart in my clothes. That's number one. That's number two. Why would you want to fart around anybody?

That's just disrespectful. Like, nobody just't fart in my clothes. That's number one. Number two, why would you want to fart around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like, nobody just sits around and farts. You ain't never just been in a casual conversation with a person and they just fart. Maybe when you was a kid. But when you were an adult, you don't do stuff like that. So why would you do that around your wife? So this is what I do. If I'm in public and I got a fart, I just step away.

I just say, excuse me. I step to the side, fart, and let it air out. Wait about a couple of seconds because you don't want it to linger and then bring the soul back. That's respect. That's what you got to do. That's respect. So why wouldn't you give your woman that same respect?

Why would you fart in front of her just because you think you can? That's disrespectful, bro. That's disrespectful for you, Wiley. We've been together for a while, you know what I'm saying? You fart, you got to let it. You got to go. You got to go. It's a family member at this point, you know what I'm saying?

No. I'm sure you fart in front of your wife. Not on purpose. Yeah, but you gotta let it go. You know it's a chemical imbalance when you hold that. I don't fart in front of my clothes, sir. Yeah, I will fart. I will pass gas in front of my wife and my kids and my family.

Not me. I ain't itching in front of her. I'm not gonna be like, hey, babe, let's have this conversation in the bathroom when I'm pooping. I'm not going to do that. Wait, real quick. I just want to say this. I want to keep you out too long.

I've been calling the radio since I was a kid. This is my first time ever getting through it. That's wild. That's crap. This is going to be a good day today. Follow me on the gram.

I'm Sharla, and follow me on the gram. All right. All right, man. I will say the beauty of having young kids is I got a six-year-old and a soon-to-be three-year-old like if you do accidentally fart you can always blame it on them i do that all the time hello who's this hey what's up uh mv this is

um big blue from myrtle beach hey what's up brother myrtle beach we're talking about uh-huh. I got to say, man, I thought about this and I got to say, yeah, I did find it romantic the first time it happened. I thought she was the one because back in high school,

I was that cat that I couldn't poop in front of everybody so I had to go to the Botox building. So I felt like if I felt that comfortable around her,

she was the one. Why would you have to poop in front of everybody, sir? You know, when you go, you know, kids are in high school, so I mean, I'm sure you got one why would you have to poop in front of everybody sir you know when you go you know kids are in high school i'm sure you got traumatized some when oh you go to the regular bathroom and if you poop in high school everybody comes and opens the door and messes you and do whatever you know i can honestly say and this is not a lie i've never pooped in high school i never pooped in the bathroom in high school you held it till you came home i just never had to in school i don't know why My bowels got a lot more regular

As I got older In school I never I never I never pooped in high school Then you have a strong stomach Cause that pizza And me was surprised

Had me going there After third period Wait When'd you come out? 94 Yeah you came out in 94 Damn that's I came out in 90

Or 98 But I was supposed to be 96 So Damn Yeah I don't remember pooping in high school i also just want to say man i love the positivity you brothers keep it going i appreciate it and it keeps me going every day man thank you i love king all right what's the moral of the story moral of the story is to each his own you know what i'm saying i'm just telling you what i don't

do you know i mean kevin gates that's what works for him and his queen. You know, me and my queen roll a different way. That's all. But once again, I don't like poop. I don't even like to be in the bathroom with myself when I poop. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us today. Yes, indeed. We have Cheryl McKissack Daniel and Don Peebles don peebles welcome hello nice to be back welcome back yes you know cheryl is the president and ceo of mckissick and mckissick yes and don is the founder chairman and ceo of the people's corporation let me tell y'all something there's been a lot of rappers in this room a lot of athletes in this room okay this might be the

most money been in this room at one time that's all i'm gonna say it's a fact it's just a fact might be the most money that's been in this room at one time just want to say that how are y'all today we are great okay glad to be here glad that you uh are having us in to talk about affirmation tower that's right and i know you say y'all want it to be the most inclusive skyscraper in New York City. What does that mean? Break that down because they came in here bullying me first, just because I went to Hampton University. They came in here bullying, talking all this Howard stuff. But explain what that project is about, that inclusive skyscraper. Listen, it was last year when CBRE, a large brokerage firm, came to me and they said listen this is up for grabs and the only person

that we think can develop this is don peoples and i'm like don's a friend he was already looking at this project and so you know if the best and the brightest of this country feel that way then we certainly know we can do this and i'm gonna let don explain the project well great i mean look cheryl and i have been friends since she and her sister were freshmen at Howard. Oh, boy. Oh, Lord. Y'all got some stories. And I was in the beginning going to the real estate business.

And Cheryl's family has a long history in it. And Cheryl's done an amazing job in building her business here in New York and other parts of the country and so when the opportunity to come uh build a building across the street from the Javits Center on one of the major attractions in New York City I thought what better place than to build what will be unfortunately the first skyscraper in New York City built by black people. It's mine, by the way. I'm sure black people built something, but there wasn't no black people actually

behind it on the financial level. That's exactly right. Black people work on it, and not enough, by the way, because the construction industry has been discriminating over the years as well in terms of the high-paying jobs that are generated by them, but that's changing. that you know we ought to build this building should be

built um by black developers and so i thought about this as also we want to send a message that we all work together and so uh i called cheryl first and uh said look you know one i want you and your company as a construction company to build this building. But also I want you to be a developer to partner with us in that. So she came in, Craig Livingston, who's been a trailblazer in terms of economic empowerment for black real estate professionals and entrepreneurs. We brought him on as a developer as well and put together a team that's 80 percent black and uh and then we were designing it i thought we want an architect that's going to make a powerful statement

so we picked david adjay who i've worked with before and who was the architect for the museum for african-american history and culture in washington dc which is the most visited museum in the whole smithsonian system since the day it opened and then we committed to 35 minority contracting at a minimum threshold to build that building and then you know when we're designing the building um it was going to be super tall but then i said why not build the tallest building let's build the tallest building in the western hemisphere wow built first building to be built by black people in new y York City in terms of financially. And let's make it the tallest one in the Western Hemisphere. And so that's what we started doing. How much will this building cost to make and how long will it take? Three point six billion dollars.

OK. Change. It's some work, but we're going to get it done. And it will be one of the biggest projects built in New York City. And it meets two moments. So right now we're coming out of COVID. So America and New York has got to build back. But we got to do it differently. We got to be inclusive because that's the other moment. I mean, these protests that we've had around the country over the last two years, especially last year, was about fighting for equal treatment under the law

for black people, but also for us to have our seat at the table economically. Is it residential or is it going to be commercial office? Two hotels. So starting on the podium, it'll have a cultural center that the NAACP is putting together and then offices for the NAACP. And then last week, Reverend Sharpton and I made an agreement that we're gonna bring the Civil Rights Museum there as well. So that'll be on the lower levels of the building. And then we'll have some restaurant and other space on the top of what's supporting the bigger part.

And then as we go up the tower, two hotels and then offices. And then up top, three levels of event and venue space, a observation deck. And to put the icing on the cake, we are putting an ice skating rink on top. On top of the building. On top of the building, 1,600 feet up in the air. Everything is intentional. So the name, the affirmation tower, what is the meaning behind the name?

We're affirming that we're meeting those two points in time. you look at the tower it looks like it's upside down and that's another message we are turning things upside down we want to open up this system to people like ours because as you know when black people are owners it creates an ecosystem where we help people all along the line so how long do you think it's going to take to actually complete this project? It'll take us when we start construction about three years. And before that, it'll take about a year and a half of design. So we're about five years out. How difficult was it to get this project?

I mean, and we're still fighting for it. I mean, we are fighting for it now. It's very difficult. But I mean, I expect it to be difficult i mean but we're knocking down barriers each day and in reality dr king you know mecca everts john lewis it was hard for them too and we're doing it in other cities we just won a huge project in boston yep last week we got boston that was the got Boston with the Republican governor. Well, actually, it was easier because.

So give you a sense. So, I mean, I'm a I'm a big I'm a Democrat, lifelong Democrat. But I'm like what Henry Kissinger said about America. He said America has no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, permanent interests. Black people, we got to have no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, permanent interest. So the governor, Charlie Baker in Boston, decided that he saw the unfairness in the system. So what he did is every project that he's doing in that state, 25 points out of 100 is for equity for people of color. I always ask this question and I don't even know you can have one without the other. But what's more important, economic equity or equality? Oh, wow. That's a really good question.

But I would say the economics are very important because then that's going to help create the equality, in my opinion. Don always says this about venture capitalists and their $69 dollars of money out there that's been invested but only 1.3 percent of it has been invested by black firms so we are so upside down on the economic ladder that we just have to do something about that if we can have access to economic opportunity we can solve our own problem. We can deal with our own communities. But you keep blocking us from economic opportunity, then we're going to continue to struggle. So we can do it for ourselves.

Then we can expand our community and take care of our own issues. And we can support our own organizations. And they need to stop looking at us. I said this yesterday to a group of white business people. You all need to stop looking at doing business with black people it's philanthropic it's good business for you that's right all right when we come back we have more with cheryl mckissick daniel and don people so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with cheryl mckissick daniel and don people We got to go back to the origin story. Because when I hear, you know, y'all knew each other as freshmen at Howard University.

That's like some outliers, divine alignment type stuff. Like, did y'all both know that's what y'all wanted to do in the future? I mean, of course your family was already in it. When I met Don, Don had bought his first apartment in D.C. As a freshman at Howard? Well, I was a freshman. He was a freshman. well I was a freshman a freshman and I was two years I think I'm two years older right so he was in college and he had bought an apartment and I remember my twin sister and I saying to each

other well who does that when you're in college and Don said then he said I'm going to do transformational development my sister and I we always knew we were gonna be in the family business I My sister and I, we always knew we were going to be in the family business. I mean, we're fifth generation. We always knew that. But then, over the years, Don was in D.C., Philadelphia, and we kept saying, we're going to work together.

At some point, we are definitely going to work together, but it just has to be the right project. So, you know, McKissick is fifth generation. Is people's first generation? First generation. Wow. Where do you get the money to buy the apartment, Don?, McKissick is fifth generation. Is Peebles first generation? First generation. Wow. Where do you get the money to buy the apartment?

You don't want to tell us. If it was a minor fair, just keep it to yourself. I started working. I quit college after my freshman year and started working in real estate. And frankly, I mean, it was a black government. It was a black mayor. And they were focused on economic empowerment for black people. So, I felt it was a good place to start doing business. business and so i got exposed to real estate because my mother was a

real estate sales agent and a broker and so i learned from her i started my own company when i was 23 wow and built my first building when i was 26 but i couldn't have done it anywhere else dc at that time was a mecca for black economic empowerment. It was Atlanta and D.C. Mary and Barry. Yeah. And Mary and Barry, for all his faults, you know, he was, you know. He just liked to have a good time. Yeah. For God's faults.

At his memorial service, Minister Farrakhan mentioned that, about his history of everything that, you know, he was being criticized for having a drug abuse problem. And he said, who are you talking about? John Kennedy? Because it wasn't just. So Barry was transformative. And the government at that time was. And they knocked down opportunities, barriers to opportunities for black business people.

Bob Johnson got a start in D.C. I got mine. Many other black business people did. But I met Cheryl and her sister. They were freshmen in DC. I got mine. Many other black business people did. But I met Cheryl and her sister. They were freshmen in college and her cousin was a good friend of mine. And so we became friends and we both had kind of common interests. They were going into the family business. I was building mine. And so my son's in our business now. He's 27 and my daughter's 19 and at TCU. And I'm hopeful that she will go into the business as well and we can build some legacy.

But part of the legacy I want to build is demonstrating how we can work together. Because I may not be able to do a $3.6 billion building by myself. Cheryl may not be able to. Craig, but collectively we can. But Don, you didn't need us. I mean financially but I needed you all in every other way um and you all bring tremendous um resources to the table I know people are watching this and they want so good man hold on I'm not saying I'm just saying this

feels so good I know people are watching this and they want to know how though like you see you know it's easy to say I bought my first building but how where did the capital come from like where does where does one start well i think the first thing is with a dream i mean developers are dreamers um we're visionaries and so with a dream and with a plan and becoming a student of the business and i mean be you can be self-taught read some books learn about the business it's not a complicated business, by the way, supply and demand. So understanding the business, having a dream and having a dream to be achievable, but pushing and then finding an idea. Once you find an idea, then you can raise money for it. Now, what Cheryl touched on, if you're black, don't expect it to be easy. The Federal Reserve did a study last year. There's $ trillion dollars invested in private equity and venture capital.

And that's normally go. That's where real estate developers get equity for their project from private equity. But the sixty nine trillion dollars invested in private equity in the United States. And out of that, one point three percent of it goes to businesses own or founded or projects found or worked on by blacks or women combined so white men get 98.7 percent of all venture capital and private equity money so the challenge is equity but if you can you can raise the money friends and family and so on and then build your building or buy a property and renovate it and then do what I did is I rolled all my money back in so the first project that we did was ten million dollars that didn't start dead and you started with a department yeah I think that's the question like you started from us right apart yeah but yeah right but then after

that I started a consulting and appraisal business and that's how I earned a living and began to accumulate some money to save. And then with that money, I found an opportunity to build an office building. But if you have a dream and you're willing to do some work, you can make money in the real estate business. You know, we talk about the racial Noel gap in America a lot. You think that actually can be closed in this generation? I don't think it can be closed. I think we can make some progress, but we won't do it the way it is right now. And one of your former guests is a man I've known a long time and currently president. And I remember his comment about it could make up your mind between him and Trump. You're not black.

Well, I mean, again, no permanent friends, no permanent friends no permanent enemies permanent interest but he would be at right now in the delaware um waterfront on the porch of his house if it wasn't for black people it's time to pay up and i mean pay up in other ways by giving us access to economic opportunity and that's when we close the wealth gap a place like boston according to federal reserve the average household net worth of a white family in boston is 247 thousand dollars the average household net worth of a black family is eight dollars eight dollars that is an insurmountable wealth disparity without affirmative aggressive dollars eight dollars holy cow eight dollars to 247 000 and so you can't solve that by taking baby steps frankly we can't let these

liberal democrats continue to try to make us comfortable that's right being poor so we're going to have to demand aggressive steps economically, not window dressing, not hiring a few black people here and there. And by the way, the other thing, when black people get in a position of power, they got to help each other. We cannot get into these positions and sit in them and then just kind of keep the status quo. So then they can say, see there, we got a black person in here so we're not racist we're not doing anything because we can't find any qualified black people because if we could the brother over here or the sister over here would be doing it and they're not and that's one of the reasons why my company has focused on this issue and i i would dare to say that i am the most outspoken advocate for equal opportunity and fair treatment for black people in business and finance and and

also that we got to do it aggressively we cannot just sit back here anymore what do you what does reparations look like yeah i think that what's realistic for us is that the entire system of how our government does business changes and is reflective of population demographics. So if you're in a city that's 50% black, 50% of the government contracts go to black businesses. If you're a business like Goldman Sachs or whatever, and you are taking institutional capital as an investment advisor, then you've got to deploy that reflective of the population demographics. So if you're running a national business, black people are 13 percent of the population. 13 percent of the loans have to be made to black businesses and black people on the

same terms that you make them to the white firms. So we could do that. Just a fairness. I mean, we would make great progress. But what has happened here is that the impediments to our uh to us having fair opportunity are compounded by these obstacles and these injustices economically oh brother don i can't buy no building with fairness i need some capital right you know i mean so don't you feel like america owes us something tangible yes like sounds good to me yeah i think america owes us something tangible yes by giving us Look, I think there should be some place where there's like a pool of capital that goes to black people. Sort of like the PPP loans. But not loans.

And if you execute, then you don't pay it back. Exactly. But I think we also have to say, okay, what about property? That has to be adjusted? The cash cash reparations or returning of property needs to take place. All right. When we come back, we have more with Cheryl McKissick, Daniel and Don Peebles. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High,

is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.

Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.

Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,

but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best

and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss

it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home,

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you get your podcast morning everybody cj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with cheryl mckissick daniel and don peebles charlamagne how difficult is it navigating the construction industry and the real estate industry as a black person it's hard knocks it is well black woman i mean that's even harder right yeah i mean don talked about black females starting the most businesses however we're still only two percent of the businesses in new york city and so how was i able to build a business in new york it was really pushing prime opportunities, not where I was a sub consultant, you know, working under the umbrella of a large firm. No, I had to be the lead person, whether that was a $2 million project that turned into

a $5 million project or $10 million project. But that was all a fight because there are no laws out there for that. You know, you have to create relationships and, you know, convince people to give you this shot. And that's coming from a fifth generation company. So I can imagine. Oh, yeah. Two hundred and thirty years.

Wow. And we're still having to prove who we are and still not getting the access that we should get. Politically, do you know, do these politicians come to y'all, of course, to make donations and stuff? And if so, does that give you some type of power when it comes to them? Are y'all able to demand things from them? So I've been involved in politics my entire career. I was on Obama's National Finance Committee for both of his elections bill clinton's as well what i learned over the years is that you can have some access to some people but even there

we get discriminated against we're big supporters of many different politicians but they will be willing to jump over backwards to help a white business person who is you know at a high level and but when it comes to us they'll decide when they're going to treat us fairly and when they're not and that the money's not as impactful and it's kind of a subtlety and i don't know if i'm explaining it right but what i'm saying is that our money isn't as good as the other people's money when it comes to many politicians. Even if you have the same amount of money, even financially, you're on equal footing. You tell us there's a wall between policy and making decisions as a government leader and your money. And so what I've done, and so fundraising and contributing money

is kind of the carrot. So I said, okay, the carrot doesn't work. I'll use a stick. So a couple of times that these people have crossed me and treated me unfairly, I form a political action committee and I run an independent campaign against them. And because I figure if I got some money,

I need to use it at least to level the playing field for what I'm'm trying to do that's right and so i'm not going to take it on the chin and that's the other thing is that they think that they can screw us over and get away with it so i try to send a message no there's some repercussions if you treat us unfairly you think we do ourselves a disservice by always voting democrat always being with one party being so low to one party yes i think so i think we need to vote what policies are important to us and get them to agree to some concrete things so i chaired the congressional black caucus foundation board which is the think tank for the 50 some odd black members of congress and does that legislative weekend in washington dc so i chaired that last three years of obama's um administration and then going into trump's

first year and i told the caucus members when trump came in i know him and he's transactional go meet with him with a list of things for black people because you all weren't elected to be democrats you were elected to advocate for black people your constituents so go with a list of what your constituents want and tell them you want this and ask them what does he want and see if there's a deal to be made but you can't put the black agenda on hold for four to eight years because you don't like the guy in the office you got to play a game of power you got to constantly fight because our agenda can't wait. So we should do business with whoever we have to to get our program going forward. And then we can vote again later.

The Democratic Party takes us for granted. That's right. And they have for a very long time. And frankly, we should be on the front steps of the White House telling Joe Biden, this isn't enough. It's great that you appointed a qualified woman to the Supreme Court, a black woman. All right. But here's what we need. And he owes the majority 63 in the Supreme Court. Expand the Supreme Court. Now for Jackson, if you want to, if you want to really make an impact.

But also he's responsible for the 1994 crime. That's right. And I tell him to his face. He's responsible for it. He's cleaned it up. And he has not addressed that yet. And he spoke passionately. And he was the floor leader in the Senate for Bill Clinton for the 1994 crime bill that led to the mass incarceration of black men and women and these mandatory sentences that destroyed lives so he's got to clean that up and he's got to clean that up not just with criminal justice reform because that's only going to deal with what's going forward but secondly he's got to make right what he's done our community and our people since 1994 before the 90s yeah because you know the mandatory minimum sentence in the crack laws that was the 80s you're right yeah when i when i said that to him i said um you know they let the master cause race and he said no it didn't know, the mandatory minimum sentence in the crack laws, that was the 80s. You're right. Yeah. When I when I said that to him, I said, you know, they let the master cause race. He said, no, it didn't. It was the mandatory minimum in the 80s. I said, well, you wrote that, too. It was easy to do business with. Is it Biden or was it Trump to do business with?

I think Trump would be easier to do business with because there's no competing interest and he's a decisive person. I think that the Democratic presidents have tried to make this rainbow constituency happy so same thing about reparations in a front and minority contracting this country owes two classes of people a great debt it owes native americans a great debt and then it owes black people a debt and it's time to pay that and biden could do that um frankly i was disappointed because i thought that um president obama should have done it but trump is transactional so you can do business with him today and be against him tomorrow he's going to understand that because he's wired that way so we have to be focused on getting business done and to this point in time i can't think about what the president of the united states

has done for black people and he's been in office for a year so how long do we have to wait for the man that we single-handedly put into office right i agree yeah and our agenda is always last isn't it yes if at all yeah yes great conversation sister cheryl brother don i feel like i was at church into office. Right. I agree. And our agenda is always last, isn't it? Yes. If at all. Yes. Great conversation. Man, Sister Cheryl,

Brother Don, I feel like I went to church and class. We do. Cheryl McKissack, Daniel Dunn, Peoples. I mean, that was class.

That was a course. So what's the call to action? We need everyone to talk about Affirmation Tower. We need this to be a movement because this is going

to change how we position ourselves. It's changing a paradigm for black people, not only in New York, but in our nation. And that's the call to action. They need to call the governor's office of New York and say that they support it. They need to call their New York City resident or New York State resident. They need to call their elected officials and say that they support this project and they support what it stands for, which is economic opportunity for black businesses. And going forward, we got to hold anybody running for office that wants our support. What are you going to do for us economically?

That's right. What are you going? How are you going to write this scales of injustice that we are dealing with and that's the call to action economic empowerment for our people will lead us to a much better place because we can what did james brown say i don't want nobody to give me nothing open the door i'll get it myself right well that's what we want open the doors of opportunity let us do our thing we have shown i want both down i want to open the door and i want something to be sitting on the table when I walk in. I agree with you. And it should be. By the way, our our ancestors paid for it and we got nothing for it.

They got nothing for it but extreme oppression. And so this country owes us a debt. The White House said Biden is sleeping and was built by slaves. That's right. That's it. Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you so much. And please, anytime y'all want to pull up, pull up. All right. Okay. We will. Absolutely. We will. Absolutely. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings

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It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day, huh? I'm going to fatten all that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlamagne to tap these gloves. Let's go. They have to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you.

This is a breakfast club, bitches. Who's Donkey of the Day today? Well, Donkey of the Day goes to a hiker in Colorado who got lost on a mountain for 24 hours. Now, I know what you're thinking. Why, oh, why would Uncle Charlotte, Brother Lenard, give a man who got lost for 24 hours hiking donkey of the day? Well, it's a tough one. It's a tough one because on one hand, I feel him. On the other hand, I'm like, I don't think he wanted to be saved.

Let me explain. See, this man was reported missing after he didn't return from an expedition on October 18th on Mount Elbert. Mount Elbert is the highest peak in the state of Colorado. Now, he was lost, clearly. But sometimes folks be lost to us. But to them, they just outside. All right? This kind of feels like one of those situations. Even though it's not.

I know y'all think I sound like Rafiki and the Lion King right now, but listen to me. Pay attention. Follow this because it will all make sense in one second. Now, if people think you're lost, the first thing I would assume to do is call your phone. Right. That's what they tried to do to this hiker. And this is where it gets tricky for me, because trust me when I tell you, I feel how this hike could be feeling. Let's go to KGTV ABC 10 for the report, please. We're looking into a story that seems hard to believe. It claims a lost hiker ignored calls from rescue crews because he didn't recognize the phone number.

And it's actually true. The hiker was reported missing last week after he failed to return from a trek on Mount Elpert in Colorado. And the Lake County Search and Rescue team says they repeatedly tried calling the hiker's cell phone. But the man never answered because he didn't recognize the number. The hiker did safely return to his place of lodging 24 hours later with no idea that anyone had been looking for him. Raise your hand if you don't answer unrecognized phone numbers, okay? I don't. If you're driving, blow the horn, all right?

I just assumed that an unrecognized phone number is a bill collector, all right? And you're going to a voicemail that I will never check. Now, I have to ask another question. How lost are you really if you don't answer the phone when people are looking for you simply because you don't recognize the phone number? I feel them, okay? I don't answer the phone when people are looking for you simply because you don't recognize the phone number i feel him okay i don't answer the phone for numbers i don't know in fact too many numbers i don't know calling me is one of the main reasons i changed my phone number but here's the thing i don't know if this hiker necessarily deserves donkey of the day sounds like the people who were looking for him deserve donkey of the day because they're trying

to save a person that didn't need saving maybe number one he didn't answer a number he didn't know therefore he clearly wasn't stressing he clearly didn't think he was in danger okay number two did you hear the end of the news report can we play that just the end of the news report is there a way to do that the hiker spent the night searching for the trail and bouncing between different trails to find that's not what i want that's not that wasn't it at the end of it at the end of it they said he made his way back to his lodging all right if this guy was really lost i can't tell but if he really was lost round of applause for his focus give this man some applause red okay i mean if i'm lost trying to figure my way back i don't want to talk to anyone on the phone either you ever have your gps going driving but somebody called you

and interrupts the gps all you're driving and talking and you missing what the gps is telling you because this person wants to talk on the phone what's your chat about okay i miss me exit all right that's how this man's brain was working in this moment he couldn't be bothered he was too busy bouncing from trail to trail trying to figure things out now let's go to this news report from sackby.com let me hear this one the hiker spent the night searching for the trail and bouncing between different trails to find the trailhead where they had parked rescuer said i don't know if he was lost i really don't i really don't know if this man was truly lost but if he was like the media is reporting i need to know his reasoning for not answering his phone because i need that kind of discipline in my life.

Can somebody go interview this man? Please have a conversation. I need to be able to ignore my phone and other distractions under duress are not just like, you know, this individual was. I was always taught desperate people do desperate things. And, you know, answering unrecognized phone numbers is an act of desperation. So clearly there was nothing desperate about this man because he didn't feel the need to answer his phone while he was so-called lost in the mountains. There is a prophet, OK, a beacon of light named Project Pat, who once said, don't save her. She don't want to be saved. I think this applies to this hiker.

All right, don't save this man. He didn't want to be saved. As stupid as we want to call this man, if you got to let a hoe be a hoe, you got to let a hiker be a hiker. But we can still give him the credit he deserves for being, I guess, what we would call stupid. Sometimes people just don't want to be bothered. But give this hiker the biggest hee-haw anyway.

Just in case he was really lost. All right. All you got to do is pick up the phone and not say anything. Pick up the phone, baby. Pick up the phone and don't say anything. Just be quiet. But no, if people think you're you're lost right and they call your phone and somebody picks up the phone and don't say nothing now they really gonna be distraught

now they're gonna really want the law enforcement and everybody oh you pick up the phone and you go hello that's even worse now they're gonna ask for you and you're like she's not available now it was like a strange phone so a strange voice picked up my phone a strange voice picked up my phone. A strange voice picked up his phone. I really think he's in trouble now. Wrong number. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He would have the whole feds after her. Everybody would be looking for that person after that.

You want to make sure it's not a bill collector. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. Like, nobody has seen what I was doing, you know. But for me, it was kind of like a natural reaction to what was going on, you know what I'm saying. Circa 2010, 2011, you know, a lot of stuff on the radio was like Young Money dominant.

Then they started going West Coast with it, you know what I'm saying. And I just felt the need that new york needed something that like represented it again and yeah now it's just kind of part of my dna part of my radio that time i know that uh well you know i was a kid i hated everything i hated literally everything i didn't want to talk to nobody i didn't want to see nobody i had no type of gauge on really what was going on and to the magnitude of how it was going. Why did it take so long? Why 10 years between projects? Oh, no, it wasn't 10 years between projects.

It was five years. I thought 99 came out. Well, 99 was 10 years. 10 years. What was five years ago? All American. All American, yeah. All American Badass, all right.

Yeah, yeah. But five years is a long time, too, in this business. Why five years? Man, it wasn't no specific reason. Like, it wasn't like I finished my last album. Like, yeah, I'm going to take five years or not. It just happened that way, man. You know, I was experimenting, trying to find a new direction, trying to figure out which way I wanted to go.

In addition, I had my first kid, you know, my daughter. She's four years old now. Started doing a lot of TV and film stuff. Started taking off. So it was just really getting used to a new balance. And then the pandemic set me back. Like, I had a project. But then when the pandemic started, I got connected with myself in a different way, you know.

And it became a whole different thing, you know. So it was just kind of the way it lined up. But I'll tell you this. Like, I ain't never planning on going away for that long again i was gonna ask you how did you get into acting for people that don't know i was a theater student in high school i went to edward r morrow i had like audition for a bunch of different drama theater programs because when i was coming up now when it was time for me to go to high school like i always was into music but at the time there was no programs to go to to work on my rap skills or be a rapper.

So my next best thing to me was film. They kicked me out after my sophomore year, though. For what? My attendance was just poor. I was one out of three black kids. And the great thing about that is I was one out of three black kids. It was me and the homie Sadiq who played Ghostface on wu-tang wow so it was dope you know what i'm saying connecting back with him yeah you know i mean connecting back with him the whole

full circle joint did you ever think you would lose your rap identity as joey badass playing inspector dick um no i didn't think i was gonna lose my rap identity but that is a good question because i was always reluctant about playing roles that were too close to who I am in real life but when I got off of that you know it's Wu-Tang like that's a big honor and then RZA has been one of my mentors in this game for a long time so I definitely wanted to come through for him like I feel he's come through for me a lot of the time but you know then I got power and then I got on Viv, though, for Wu-Tang. Tell me about the Jay-Z connection because you referenced that a couple of times on the album on Make You Feel. And I might be paraphrasing here, but you say peep game like Jay.

That's why he didn't sign me. That's why he didn't sign us. Keep the game at bay like the 49ers. Jay is like an idol. I read his book Decoded and that line was inspired by a piece in Dec Dakota when he said he met with Russell Simmons for the first time Mm-hmm and he details experiences him like remembering sitting at that table and looking at them and Thinking to himself like damn like I don't want to be signing these I want to be these you may be a first conversation with

Jay your first sit down him. Yeah I was 17 years old. I was in Denver. he flew me back out to New York to meet with him and you know I was a funny little so I walked in and I'm like yes like whatever it is it was a dope experience man because at 17 years old I felt so limitless it was probably like when I was 15 or 16 like I visualized in mind, like I want to be signed to Jay-Z. So when I was going up in that Roc Nation building like a year or two later, I'm like, damn, I could do anything. I'm already in alignment with my idol. Anything is possible.

Did he tell you why he didn't sign y'all? It's funny. Like I always see him now and I be wanting to have that conversation. But the time, I feel like the time never permits, like, where we at. But I be wanting to ask him that. I was so young at the time, and to me, there was no reason to not sign to Jay-Z. But, you know, there was other factors involved and shit like that, so I'm not really sure what exactly happened.

Because based off the album it seems like y'all used to be up there a lot like skateboarding in front of the building well yeah they showed us a lot of love okay you know what i'm saying they showed it to this day you know he looks out for me shows me a lot of love so it's just always been um more like three degrees of separation you know and i like what you said about this being a reintroduction to joy badass because you do tell so much about yourself. You talk about your cousin Richie Rich writing your first rap. Yeah.

What kind of battery did that put in your back? He just, like, really gave me structure. You know what I'm saying? Like, he taught me how to count bars and all that. And then, you know, I had other older cousins who used to rap and shit like that. For a long time, it was a running joke joke because when I was a kid, I used to always tell them, yo, y'all need to bring me to the studio, boom, boom, boom. And then my shit

blew up, and I was like, ah, y'all need to bring me to the studio. Do you remember writing your first rap? Nah, nah, but it must have been in, like, first grade, because that's when I was introduced to poetry, and I identified it as, like, I was like, oh, this is that Biggie doing that's like what

my brain said you know i mean and then from there i got into poetry but i'll always do like rap style poems but um i remember the first time i spit that verse that my cousin wrote for me for my mom's i was like nine years old and something like my name is little j and i got the nine you mess with me and I blow off your mind. They hating because I be on my grind and I always shine. Why you acting like you sell Glocks? For I put a pipe bomb in your mailbox. Some s*** like that, right?

I'm nine years old. I don't even know what the f*** I'm going to talk about for real. Nah, she even snatched me up. She was like, do you know what a nine is? To me, I'm like, I'm non, so it just sounded like that. You feel me? I'm like, nah. She was like, it's a gun.

First of all, I was like, what? And then she gave me the realest advice. She was like, yo, look, if you want to do this, you could do that. But you just got to be true to yourself. And from there, I just kind of took that and ran with it she didn't say nothing about the pipe mom nah i think she kind of figured out that it wasn't my words you know i'm saying somebody else was involved in that all right we got more with joey badass when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning hey guys i'm kate max You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,

where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.

So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for post run high it's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.

It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.

The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?

Bullets. Bullet holes, yeah. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.

Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sup, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on

with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over

to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history Like this one about Claudette Colvin A 15 year old girl in Alabama Who refused to give up her seat on the city bus

Nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people,

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Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Howdy, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Joey Badass. Charlamagne? Nah, I love Ritten in the Stars, too.

You mentioned your daughter earlier. You said your daughter was your wake-up call. What did that wake-up call look like to you? Yeah, you know, I felt so obligated in earlier years in my career to take care of people. To the point where a lot of the times it burned me out. Feeling like guilt, survivor's guilt and things of that nature. But, you know, when my baby girl came, it was like, oh, okay. This is really the only person i'm responsible for you know what

i'm saying and now that she's here it's different like if you can't respect that then you know we can't even be cool no more how's your life changed how do you move differently now that you have a girl well yeah you know definitely more focused definitely more intention and everything that i do especially when it comes to you know spending and you know, I say it made me more patient. It made me more gentle. It made me more willing to learn and listen. How did it change your overall perspective of women? Definitely, like, you know, from time to time,

I would have the thought, like, I wouldn't want my daughter to, you know what I'm saying, being in a situation like that. So it definitely kind of gives you a heightened state of awareness when it comes to that interaction but i mean i've always been a super respectful man anyway but like you know with my baby girl in my life it definitely kind of shakes my mind in a way like let me try to be more like the version of the man that i would want my baby girl to grow up man you know deal with you ever look at it like I was this way as a man and now I gotta change because I don't want my daughter to like that as a man yes and no because you know life is about growth you know nobody's gonna come straight

off with a tree like boom like nah you got experience and you know, I want I don't want none of that to be hidden from my child like I don't want her to ever view life as a Thing where you could skip steps and still get by you know We all got we all got all types of childhood traumas that we couldn't even run from if we tried to right These are the things that affect us and you know I'm saying ultimately shape who we are You know I mean But as long as you know i'm saying ultimately shape who we are you know i mean but as long as you know you got that growth mindset or as long as whoever she's with got that growth mindset then i got some patience you know i got some sympathy now in the baddest first of all you and you and diddy seem

like y'all have a strong relationship absolutely how you and diddy get so cool and so close man i met diddy 2016 coming out the rihanna met gala after party. And he was walking out, I was walking in. And he was just like, yo, King, I've been trying to connect with you for years. I was trying to sign you back in the day. And I'm like, this is all news to me. You know what I mean? This is the first time I'm meeting him. I'm like, wow, word, boom, boom, boom.

And that same week, I had Roland out of Miami. And then I ran into him again. And then from there, it was just like we were just road dogs you know I'm saying like he would be going somewhere yo Joey I'm being in New York but won't pull up and we just kind of developed that relationship like that and it's like I'm EP two distant strangers too yeah exactly because of me you know I mean I got him on that project I got him involved I made a phone call I'm super grateful for that relationship because me I'm a sponge.

So it's like you bring me around to the right rooms and tables. Like I ain't taking that for granted. I'm connected. I'm networking. I'm, you know what I'm saying? I'm using the opportunity fruitfully, you know what I mean? As it should be. So the fact that he could identify that in me, I'm very appreciative of that. You know, he did the intro and the outro.

On the outro, he said something to the effect of, we got to bring that New York feeling back. Are those conversations that y'all have? And do you think that you can actually bring New York back if you live in some place like Miami or L.A.? Don't you got to be here? Yeah, I think you got to be here for sure because you got to connect with the pulse of the city. You know, what was the question?

The question was, do y'all have those conversations about bringing the feeling back? Oh, yeah, You know, yeah. Yeah. Me and Puff, we've spoken about that over the years. Like, you know, I'll play him some songs. He like, yeah, like this is the vibe. This ain't the vibe.

Well, you should do this. You should go more here, you know. But that's usually the focus of the conversation. You know what I'm saying? We always trying to stay in that essence. He still got air? 50 said Diddy don't got no air no more. 50 said Diddy ain't got no air no more? 50 said Diddy ain't got no ear no more?

Yeah, that's what he said last week. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie, man. Puff, I feel like he always going to have an ear. Now, you can tell that you really been doing the work on yourself mentally, too. You know what I mean? Like, you go to therapy?

I do. I do go to therapy. I started going to therapy back in 2020. You know, as unfortunate as that pandemic was for a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? Like, I definitely don't want to be insensitive when I say this. But for me, I needed that. I didn't know stillness in my adult life. Like, I hit the ground running at 17 years old.

I was still a kid. I didn't realize for about five, six years I didn't stop. You know what I mean? So when I finally got that space and that time, it was like I just went real deep inside, you know what I mean? And I realized things that I needed. I was like, okay, I need therapy. You know what I mean? Like I need to be held accountable for my shortcomings.

I need those to be pointed out to me because I'm what you call a self-improvement junk. Like I'm committed and devoted to being a better version of myself every time I show up. need those to be pointed out to me because i'm what you call a self-improvement junk like i'm committed and devoted to being a better version of myself every time i show up you could see the evolution in all the breakfast club interviews i think this is our third one yeah you know i'm saying so i pride myself on that you know so therapy was definitely an outlet that i saw to bring me closer to a higher self-awareness and just state of being. What introduced you to it?

How did you decide to do it? What was that decision like? Well, you know, I've always been open-minded, and I started to resonate with that idea that black people, therapy being so taboo to us. What it was is I was introduced to the concept of emotional intelligence, and that kind of blew my mind. That opened so many doors for me. Because I'm like, wow, like, we really wasn't taught this.

How important it is to identify your own emotions in relation to the people around you. You know what I'm saying? Like, we might just wake up in a bad mood. And you wearing that mood. And now your household is feeling that mood. And you don't even realize you just passed that mood on to your son. Now your son is in school with that mood. And he passing that on to, you know what I'm saying?

Energy is so contagious. And once I kind of like realized that, it started to open little pathways in my brain like, damn. Even identifying with frustration as an emotion if you tell a black man yo you being emotional that's like offensive all right but people don't realize that yo if you angry if we having a conversation you just screaming because you mad you're in your emotion you know i'm saying people get emotionally hijacked every day b that's right every day like blinded by emotion blinded by rage so i just kind of started on that path for understanding myself more because i grew up i had like anger issues and stuff like that it was

hard to me to identify a lot of things that i was feeling did you figure out where that anger came from now that i think about it looking at hindsight i think a lot of it came from when my parents split me not knowing how to process that and then manifest in the sun and those like me trying to find a reason for Elsewhere, you know what I mean? I can't say realization in therapy like I didn't realize how much my parents the voice and Had impacted me and how angry I was at my pops for that word up Do something to you especially as a black man You know I mean cuz now you got that separation from your father

and it's like, you need your father as a black man, especially in this f***ing world. Did you ever have that conversation with your pops? Because, you know, one of the best things that helped me

was having a conversation with my pops and realizing that he was going to therapy two and three times a week back in the day. He tried to kill himself back in the day.

He was on 10 to 12 different medications. It made me give him more grace because I realized, damn, he was somebody before he was my parent. Right my parent right and you know he was just doing the best he could but what he had yeah you know i have to i have great conversations with my dad all of the time and it's like i have my own interpretations of it because my understanding and his understanding is definitely different and it's like a generational difference and i came to kind

of grow and accept that because what fulfills me what i appreciate what i'm grateful for is that i could hear my old man's wisdom you know what i mean and it's like it's up to me to interpret that however i see fit but just being able to hear that you know, I might feel a little bit more spiritually advanced than my dad, but I could never be more experienced than him. You know what I'm saying? And dad alone just make me so grateful for any time we connect. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like there's a meeting of the minds and you can learn from anybody. All right.

We got more with Joey Badass when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

We're still kicking it with Joey Badass. Charlamagne? Do you really meditate every day? You say that on the album. You say you meditate every day. Nah, it's hard to meditate every day. Like, you know, that's more of like a manifestation. I would like to meditate every day.

At a point, I was, you know, in a pandemic, for sure. But one thing I try to do is pray every day because I feel like it's a form of, you know, meditation or just a form of being able to like program your thinking in the right way. What did you see about it? Because I always say, you know, the pandemic, like you said earlier, made all of us be still for the first time. A lot of us had to like really be still for the first time and deal with ourselves couldn't run from our traumas or nothing what did you see that made you be like oh no i gotta go do some work on myself i saw how much i was settling for the short end of the stick like you know i spent a lot of the the like the first half of my career really focused and obliged to taking care of other people and in that i put a

lot of people before myself so in the pandemic it kind of put things in perspective to me it's like damn i got i did this one for that one that one for this one but what the do i have to show for myself and then that was a whole reset because then i came out the pandemic selfish but in the best way possible because i've never been that person it is evident too like i'm glad you noticed that you said yo you look healthy like this is what i look like when i'm focused on myself did the pandemic finally give you the opportunity to grieve steve's the right way it definitely gave me opportunities but um i don't i don't know this this grieving is it a complete process does it get i

don't know if it's a complete process but i was gonna say when i listen to survivors guild i feel like you have finally started processing yes you know uh yes his death this is the first year where i definitely feel a little bit of peace you know i mean it's 10 years later but just with steezes i'm still majorly grieving my cousin junior's death. Junior, yeah, right. How are you processing it? Like, you know, did it make you look at, because I had a friend commit suicide in 2020. And when she did that, it made me look at suicide differently. It definitely brought me to a very dark place.

And, you know, me, I'm very intuitive. So something inside me told me, because I remember coming from the funeral when me and cj was on the way back like to the crib and i remember telling him like yo bro we got to be strong for everybody else because it's easy to fall right now and i got pulled into that even after saying it even after having that awareness and that understanding that I couldn't go there, I still got sucked into that. You know what I mean? It brought me at a very low place. I was depressed.

Like I felt so many ways. I'm like, damn, like 17 years old. Like I know so many people who's so much older than me and they've never lost somebody this close to them. You know what I mean? It was just it was a lot of unsettling emotions and feelings and at the same time dealing with fame for the first time dealing with you know i'm saying like the ills of that it was bugged that's natural though i'm sure your therapist told you that you gotta allow yourself to feel your feels like yeah all those feelings are natural

and that's what i realized too like first of all i'm grateful for the fact that i was able to put a lot of my trauma off because I was so busy. Because I don't know what I would have did with that idle time. You know what I mean? Like, I was highly depressed. Like, I felt suicidal. All of that. You know what I mean? Like, I was very convinced that I wasn't going to live

past 25. Like, at 17, 18, I was very convinced of that. I'm like, there's no way. Like, I didn't see life after 25. Even when I turned 25, that was a was very convinced of that. I'm like, there's no way. Like, I didn't see life after 25. Even when I turned 25, that was a mind f***er for me. Because I'm like, damn, I did not visualize life this far. Wow. And then right there, I drew up a 20-year plan.

Because you look at suicide differently. Because a lot of people, especially in New York, it's probably all over the world, but especially in New York, when growing up as a kid, when you think of suicide, the first thing that people think is you're sore for your week. But then when you start having those emotions and that feeling, you realize it's far from that. First of all, it's weird to say this, but, like, I think suicide is an incredibly brave thing. It is. No, it is. You have to have a lot of audacity to do that to yourself.

You know what I'm saying? And then it's like to withstand that pain or whichever way, like, you know, like it's heavy, but it's like, there's nothing soft about that. Nothing at all. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I remember when I was at that point, I'm feeling low and like as low as I was feeling and as convinced I was that like I didn't really want to live, I couldn't find that courage to actually do it. My homegirl, Jazz, rest in

peace, she did it in 2020, completed suicide. That's what they say to say Shanti Doss. But Jazz said she was so intentional and so calculated and so strategic that when she did it, in my mind, I processed it like she just knew it was her time to go.

I've never had that feeling like it's time for me to exit you know but even if you go look at her twitter she was saying things like i wonder what my next life is going to be like and things like that so something came over her where she knew today is my day yeah no steeze it was the same way with steeze you know what i'm saying like he definitely was vocal about it leading up to it happening you know what i'm saying and like when it was just it was weird man it's weird that uh did the port buying that new Porsche 911 did it really help your mental health that's what you say on that yeah a little bit you know what i'm saying because sometimes you

got to show yourself like what you can like achieve like it would it being a superficial item and a material thing to me it more represented me having a goal, you know, and me proving myself once again, like, anything is possible. Like, that was my dream car. And I could have got it for a long time, but then one day I just decided, yo, I'm going to do it. And, yeah, it really did something for my state of being, my state of mind, you know what I'm saying? Like, I had to prove to myself, like, I know all I i gotta do is be connected to the source but now i need to push now what i love about you joy man is like when you see a black man doing the work it does reflect in his life it reflects in the way he looks and reflect reflects in his career professionally

just probably your best body of work album wise you see what you're doing in hollywood so that's why man when i see when i see that and i hear you telling these stories about going to therapy and everything i'm like that's gonna convince so many more black men to go go do the work absolutely man it's like you know i always pride myself on being some type of role model because it's like with this position i got with this stature with this platform it's like i got so many people listening and i feel like the least i could do is implant seeds that'll sprout like you know more opportunity for these people or just you know wisdom that'll transmute into the right directions for these people and stuff like that and also just making them not feel alone like i realized that like my most relatable work

is my most vulnerable work and usually when I go there like a survivor skill Mm-hmm or show me people relate to that more. We appreciate you for joy bad ass man. Keep growing my brother It's Joey badass. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning The Breakfast Club your mornings will never be the same When it's time to get with someone special the best way to do it is with Magnum large-sized condoms. That gold foil wrapper is a badge of honor and it means you're protected. And you take care of things with comfort. Accept no substitutes.

Bring the pleasure with the gold standard. Magnum large-sized condoms. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the breakfast club talk about it morning everybody it's dj mv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club now if you just joined us we're talking about kevin gates and he opened up the phone lines 800-585-1051 now kevin gates posted this uh posted this on uh twitter yesterday if a woman comes in the bathroom and talks to me while i'm taking an ish, I find that very romantic.

Now, do you like when your wife comes in the bathroom and has a conversation with you? Absolutely not. That's not something that we do. I hate poop, first of all. Don't like it. I know everyone does it, but it's literally one of my least favorite things to do. I don't look at it when it's in the toilet. I know some people like to look at it and make sure it's, like, in the shape of the superman logo like i don't do yeah i don't do

none of that you know i mean i think when you are moving vows it's a sacred experience and you should expel waste by yourself i don't want my wife in the bathroom with me while i'm pooping there's nothing cute about that there's nothing sexy about that i mean to me kevin gates that's his to him to each his own but to me no, no. Yeah, I feel the same. I don't see nothing sexy with it. I don't want to have a conversation. Although, I set up shop when I go to the bathroom, though. I set up.

I'm not in the bathroom for like 30 seconds. I'm magazine. Nah, not me. Books. Nah. I got my phone. Nah, I'm too old. I'm doing something.

I might be paying my bills. I really take my time. Sometimes I'm on there so long my feet fall asleep. That happens to me all the time. And I don't even got to be on there long. That's why I don't do it no more. I like them step stools. My sister Alicia Renee told me a long time ago to get one of them stools.

It's like a squatty potty. There you go. When you put your legs up while you're pooping. So you put your legs up while you poop? That's just too much. But I will tell you something. When I got a colonic, I did that. It was amazing.

I'm not going to lie. What part did you like? What? The colonic part but I will tell you something. When I got a colonic, I did that. It was amazing. I'm not going to lie. What part did you like? What? The colonic part. I like the whole process. I mean, it's a little uncomfortable, but I'm talking about like after the colonic is done, you got to go sit on the toilet in the colonic place, and she had a squatty potty in there. And I'm not going to lie, man.

I don't know if it was the colonic or the squatty potty, but it dumped. Like, it dumped. Dumped, dumped. You know what I mean? It felt good, and my legs weren't sleepy when I got up Squatter Potty, but it dumped. Like, you dumped. Dump, dump. You know what I mean? It felt good, and my legs weren't sleepy when I got up. I'm glad you find it good. But, yeah, to answer your question,

no, I don't want my woman in the bathroom with me while I'm taking a poop. Nah, me neither. And I don't want to be in there with her while she's taking a poop. Nah, me neither. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up?

This is Sam, representing the Bronx. Hey, what's up, bro? We're talking about, you know, pooping in front of your partner. All right, so check this out. Think about it. Normally, about, you know, pooping in front of your partner. All right, so check this out. Think about it. Normally, how many people have you pooped in front of?

What? I've never thought about it like that. Not even very few. Nobody besides my wife. And this is when it has to happen. I don't think I've ever pooped in front of my wife. My mama when I was a baby. Exactly. So the highest level of intimacy is pooping in front

of your partner no it's not no more intimate than that that is not true like romantic that's just simply not romantic and only my wife only comes in the bathroom she has to like it might like she might need something out the bathroom and when she comes in there she's coming in like full gas mask on like oh and by your logic you might as well walk around with a diaper on and let your wife change you and wipe you and all kind of stuff. Is that intimate too? Absolutely. It's all special. Have a blessed day, sir.

Have a blessed day. Don't kink shame him. Have a blessed day. Don't kink shame him. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on? This is a shop. What's up, DJ?

This is lit. I'm walking on the radio. This is lit. It's lit. That's a fact. You poop in front of your partner though, bro?'s a fact. You poop in front of your partner, though, bro? I'm sorry? You poop in front of your partner?

Um, yeah, I do. Definitely, you got to. Because that lets you know that you got a real one. That means that means I'm going to hit. You know what I'm saying? Boy, y'all got some weird ways to make sure that your woman is real. Nah, because, you know, I mean, because you have to. Because that's just the natural.

And people be like, ew. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you first start dating somebody, like, you know how many spots you hold in? Yeah, that's not healthy. You got to let it out. So somebody that you can feel comfortable with, that let you, you could. First of all, I mean, the door opening and all that, we have conversations. First of all, I don't fart in my clothes.

That's number one. That's number two. Why would you want to fart around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like, it just, like, nobody just sits around and farts. You ain't never just been in a casual conversation with a person, and they just fart. Maybe when you was a kid. But when you're an adult, you don't do stuff like that.

So why would you do that around your wife? So this is what I do. If I'm in public and I got a fart, I just step away. I just say, excuse me. I step to the side, fart, and let it air out. Wait about a couple of seconds because you don't want it to linger and then to bring the soul back. That's respect. That's all you got to do.

That's respect. So why wouldn't you give your woman that same respect? Why would you fart in front of her just because you think you can? That's disrespectful. That's disrespectful for you, Wiley. We've been together for a while, you know what I'm saying? You fart, you got to let it go, you got to go. It's a family member at this point, you know what I'm saying?

No. DJ, I'm sure you fart in front of your wife. Not on purpose. Yeah, but you got to let it go. You gotta go. It's like a family member at this point. You know what I'm saying? No. DJ, I'm sure you fart in front of your wife. Not on purpose. Yeah, but you gotta let it go. You know it's a chemical imbalance when you hold that. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I don't fart in front of my, I don't fart in my clothes, sir. I will fart, yeah.

I will fart. I will pass gas in front of my wife and my kids and my family. Not me. I ain't itching in front of her. I'm not gonna be like, hey, babe, let's have this conversation in the bathroom when I'm pooping. I'm not gonna do that. Wait, real quick. I just want to say this. I'm not going to be like, hey, babe, let's have this conversation in the bathroom while I'm pooping. I'm not going to do that. Wait, real quick.

I just want to say this. I want to keep you on too long. I've been calling the radio since I was a kid. This is my first time ever getting through it. That's wild. That's crazy.

This is going to be a good day today. Follow me on the gram. I'm Sharla, and follow me on the gram. All right. All right, man. I will say the beauty

of having young kids because I got a six-year-old and a soon-to-be three-year-old. Like, if you do accidentally fart, you can always blame it on them. I do that all the time. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? This is Big Luke from Myrtle Beach.

Hey, what's up, brother? Myrtle Beach. We're talking about pooping in front of your partner. Uh-huh. I got to say, man, I thought about this, and I got to say, yeah, I did find it romantic the first time it happened. I thought she was the one because back in high school, I was that cat that I couldn't poop in front of everybody,

so I had to go to the Vortex building. So I felt like if I felt that comfortable around her, she was the one. Why would you have to poop in front of everybody, sir? You know, when you go – you know how kids are in high school, I'm sure you got traumatized. When you go to the regular bathroom and if you poop in high school everybody comes and opens the door and that's what you do whatever you know i can honestly say and this is not a lie i've never pooped in high school i never pooped in the bathroom in high school you held it till you came home i just never had to in school i don't know why my bowels

got a lot more regular as i got older. In school, I never pooped in high school. You have a strong stomach because that pizza and meatloaf surprise had me going after third period. Wait, when did you come out? 94. You came out in 94? Damn, I came out in 98, but I was supposed to be

96. Damn. Yeah, I don't remember pooping in high school. I never pooped in high school. Me never yeah i also just want to say man i love the positivity you brothers keep it going i appreciate it and it keeps me going every day man thank you love king all right what's the moral of the story moral of the story is to each his own you know what i'm saying i'm just telling you what i don't do you know i mean kevin gates that's what works for him and his queen you know me and my queen roll a different way that's all but once again i don't like poop.

I don't even like to be in the bathroom with myself when I poop. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. All right. Well, you got a positive note.

Now, the positive note is simply this. After getting what you manifested, because this is very important. Everybody want to have their vision boards and manifest things. And, you know, a lot of us get those things that we manifest. But after getting what you manifested, ask for discipline to keep it and wisdom to multiply it. Have a blessed day. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished or you all done?

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