The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Swizz Beatz Interview, Eboni K. Williams Interview, Joe Clair Interview, Should You Look For Love And Not Wealth?)

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

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Crooks Everywhere unearths the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't play with it, don't play with it, don't play with it. Come on, bitch, let's play with it. Break the green tie. You think I'm going to come here when this shit ain't hot? DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big. It's one of my favorite shows to do.

Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. But what better place than here? I think everybody should go on The Breakfast Club and start with that. If you want to shake it up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up! Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now.

800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Ashley. Hey, Ashley. Good morning. Where you calling from? Columbus.

Columbus, okay. Oh, how you doing? Get it off your chest, mama. Okay, so I Good morning. Where you calling from? Columbus. Columbus. Okay. Oh, I am. Get it off your chest, mama. Okay, so I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I also have my business on the side, and I just feel like my husband is just so inconsiderate half the time. Like, he doesn't understand what I really do. Like, in the amount of work that I actually do. You know how you can fix that, Ashley?

How? Go away for a day. And let him watch them six kids. When I go away for a day, my kids, they call me. I'll be like, where's your dad? They'll be like, oh, he's in the room. Nah, you turn off your phone for one day and let him have to deal with feeding them kids, watching those kids, taking the kids out.

Why are you giving this bad advice? That's dumb. If your wife turned off her phone for one day, you'd have a fit. Right, but then you'll... No, don't turn off the phone, Ashley. He doesn't appreciate her, so she's saying that she's a stay-at-home mom. And we've been together since high school. He's the only man I've ever been with.

I really give everything and all my time to everybody. Turn the phone off. Don't turn your phone off for your husband, man. Let him have to take care of the kids. I bet you when you come back, he'll be like, baby, please don't leave. Baby, baby, baby. Don't turn your phone off for your husband, man. Let him have to take care of the kids. And I bet you when you come back, he'll be like, baby, please don't leave. Baby, baby, baby, baby. Don't turn your phone off for your husband, man. Do not listen to Envy because Envy would have a fit if Gia turned off the phone for him.

That's true. But I would check my wife. I know how hard it is. Six kids? You still would have a fit if she turned her phone off for a date. Imagine calling your wife. Imagine how many times we call our wife a date and we can't get in touch with her for 25 hours. He don't respect his wife, so he got a lot of respect.

I agree. He does have the respect. But she he got a lot of respect. I agree he do that. But she's speaking for her and you're speaking for you. So you respect your wife, but that doesn't speak to how she feel about what you're presenting her. So he could think he's respecting her and she may not feel it. That's true. But I voice that, too, because I do understand that communication is key. And I voice that and he'll be like, well, I just want this, so I just want that.

And I'll be like, okay, like in the morning, he'll wake me up and be like, well, I want this, and I'll be like, well, I was just up with our six-month-old every hour last night, like, so, I mean, the hell's going on. See? Respect is subjective, though. I was going to say that, too. Respect is subjective, so I got to know what her definition of feeling disrespected is. Right.

She just told us. Right. You know what I'm saying? So you might have to. Well, see, that's what I'm specific. Like, especially with I catered a wedding. I had five other orders besides the wedding this weekend. And I was just exhausted up every hour with the baby, you know.

And he's also on the weekends, but he didn't get up and help me. But they want to try to wake me up and then get an attitude when I'm like, no, get out of my face. See? You might just have to wake him up at 3 o'clock in the morning, sit on his face and be like, how's it feel now? That's what you might have to do. Well, good luck, man. Thank you. That's not disrespectful.

Not to me. Man, you know what I'm saying? Man wants a fellatio in the morning. Poor man, poor woman been out with the baby All night I get it But that's not It might be inconsiderate But it ain't disrespectful

There we go Inconsiderate Not disrespectful Because it mean It's not disrespectful To go the other way That's right Go find something

That's right So it's like I'm bringing it to you For real It's real talk Hello who's this Good morning How are you

Good good good Get it off your chest mama I am really upset At my husband this morning because I had an accident on Friday. And when he changed up the car, he never carried over rentals. So now I'm having to freaking, like, get up early in the morning, drop my kids off early. And we're going to have to struggle all week because of his idiocy like he's just

like damn it feels like everybody's mad at their husband this morning Jesus like how you

twisted the mistake like that we can't really hear you cause you're so upset that you're yelling but all like we can hear is that you're mad at your husband

something about a rental car he didn't give it back and now you have to do it and you went a while out on his ass I thought she said she got an accident. Yes, thank you.

That's where I'm from. Well, yeah, no, I got into a car accident on Friday. It was my fault because I was rushing. But, like, when he turned over,

like, when we changed cars, he never put his rentals. Like, how do you have two cars on the insurance with no rentals? I don't know what to tell you. So, now I'm forced

to figure out how to get to work back and forth. We work opposite ways and opposite schedules. Oh, so he got the rental and you don't have one? No, no, no. He never put rental on when he changed over car. He never put rental when he changed over car.

You know when you get into an accident and you have rental insurance? Yes. Oh, gotcha. So you never put rental insurance on the car. So you got to pay for the car now. Got you, got you. So you never got rental insurance for a rental car. So you got to pay for the car now. Got you. Got you. So you're upset. Yeah, and it's like, we got to pay for summer camp. Like, they ain't even cheap.

Well, you shouldn't have gotten into an accident. We won't figure it out. You shouldn't have gotten into an accident, ma'am. It was your fault. You said that. But you know what? Okay, yeah, it was my fault. But however, this is why we have insurance. This is why we put options on there. What if somebody would have hit me?

It sounds like both of y'all blaming each other for things that are out of y'all control. And that's whack. I mean, you should have put insurance on your car. But people do that because they be like, I'm never going to get in an accident. Why do I have to pay this extra for insurance? Same way you shouldn't have got into an accident. He probably should have had insurance. But there's no need for y'all to be pointing the finger at each other.

I understand that, but like, now our kids have to be up at 6 a.m. to go drop meals at work. That's not fair to y'all. You gotta figure it out, though. That's life, you know what I'm saying? You gotta figure out how to pivot in life. So y'all arguing now? Me and you. Have a good one, mama. Get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Envy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest.

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hey uh i'm just part of the older generation expecting that the younger generation should retire the same age as them because i'm at work and i see these guys you know 60 something years old 60 something years old working and they old man i'm just like man i can't be that old when i retire well you know what they say well somebody told me back in the day retirement is not an age it's an income i don't even know if i believe that anymore because there's people i know that make mad money but they just love what they do yeah a lot of people love to work and then a lot of people you know honestly don't know how to prepare for the future. You also got to think, you know, this is the generation where we're starting to learn more about financial freedom. So a lot of times, you know, the generation before us didn't actually know how to retire, didn't know how to save so they can retire.

So some people still have to work. That's why when you see sometimes when you when you go into those supermarkets and you go to those places and you see an older person working, you got to give them patience and help them out because sometimes they're there because they have to and they're just trying to you know get by like everybody else yeah and you know what they say when you stop moving you know you start to die yeah so some people do yeah some people want to keep moving i guess that's maybe the profession i'm in right i'm an electrician i'm in a tree uh out of vegas right now and i, these guys just don't want to retire. They feel like if they retire, they're going to die.

Yeah, I mean, that could be it too. And I'll be honest, I'd rather mess with an older electrician or older mechanic or an older doctor because a lot of times they didn't see everything. They didn't been through it. You don't feel like that about your president. You don't feel like that about your president. I mean, listen, I feel like there should be an age cap on presidents

just like they got turned. If you ask me. See, y'all want everything else age. You want your cognac age, your electrician age, but when it comes to your president, you don't want no old president. Nah, but usually a mechanic

or electrician, they've been through everything to see what works and what doesn't work. And a lot of this new generation, they rely on AI or computers to see what's wrong yeah i'd rather them tell me but my president he keep falling your president definitely keeps falling i'll tell you how the president need a caregiver hello who's this good morning i can hear you now good morning mama

get it off your chest good morning this is the bus driver he's bus driver what's up bus out my bus out from the box huh m, I want my picture. Huh? MV, I want my picture. Oh, I'm going to post the picture. That's right. Yeah, I ran into you at the airport. We were heading to Aruba, right? Right.

How you doing, man? You being safe out there? This is our bus driver from the Bronx. Yeah, I'm being safe. Just call to say good morning. That's all. You just called to say good morning. All right.

You be safe out there. Every day is something different, in the Bronx especially. In the Bronx? The Bronx. Well, be safe out there, my boy. The Bronx is horrible. Yeah, but then you'd be the same person screaming BX at a show. BX, BX, BX.

No, I don't. I be trying to duck. When they say BX, I be ducking. They say Buxman. I be like, yes, yes, say BX, I be ducking. They say Bootsman. I be like, yes, yes, yes. But get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. You know, there was a shoot in there recently. Yes. You guys had canceled the homecoming, and there was a lot going on. So have you reached back out to the school? How is everything happening now?

Because I know you're big when it comes to giving back to that school. So I was supposed to actually host our homecoming gala, which is the biggest fundraiser of the year. I hosted gala each year, shirt, you know, tuxedo out. And that got postponed to December the 8th. The official homecoming got canceled okay but black people homecoming went on as planned oh they were still partying oh they were still partying they called it because the homecoming got canceled brunch okay because the home got me got canceled day party because the home so we you know you have thousands of people who were looking forward

to this weekend so they came down and had a great time and showed solidarity after the shooting you had mothers there was a group of mothers who got together who didn't have kids and school who came up just to show support for kids who were far away from home who needed a mom oh wow if you need a hug if you need to ask a mom question real quick i'm we're standing right here oh wow and so while the tragedy happened and happened, and our prayers are with those students and their families and everybody affected, there's also this gigantic push of solidarity, this gigantic push of unity.

This is a new Morgan State, and we're going to stand together to shake off some of the old reputation and move in a new positive way. When things like this pop up, it throws a monkey wrench into the we're a new positive way when things like this pop up it throws a monkey wrench into the we're a new morgan thing so we came out even stronger that's why i've been i've been orange and blue since that day you know my kids are walking around with the hats and everything else and i'm screaming it out as much as i possibly can these institutions you know i don't have to

come on here and preach to you what an hbc means for our community so um you know at this time in my life i'm happy to be able to be there for my school whatever they need they call me for anything if the students need anything my frat brothers need anything they hit me up and like let's go do x y and z do you think they should have canceled oncoming i think it was a good call call. Dr. Wilson is an incredible leader for that school. And let's imagine if he didn't cancel. This black mama ain't canceling. It's a tragedy.

So he did the smart thing. He did the thing that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this. Everybody else, though, we went and partied, and everybody had a great time. Because all the events around homecoming. Oh, yeah. None of that got shut down. No, hell no.

You ain't canceling rare S's. You ain't canceling the go-go because, you know, you're not even supposed to have a go-go in Baltimore in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the fact that you got a go-go in Baltimore, oh, we coming. Yeah. And you're not canceling that. Why you can't have go-go in Baltimore?

It's too old. Baltimore. Break it down. Most of the country doesn't know that there is an unspoken rivalry between the African-American community in Baltimore and the African-American community in D.C. Okay. They got their own language. They're two in the D.C.

And so we grew up with two different, like you said, cultures, different accents, music, food we dig way we dress and and and the like so when i got to baltimore there was no go-go whatsoever you did not don't even don't even bring that up in baltimore now because of i think because of the 20 30 years that dc has been heavy going to morgan state making alliances in the city. My wife is from the west side. First, let me say that. My wife is from the west side of Baltimore. And when I married a Baltimore woman to D.C.,

women were like, hold on, Joe. No, that's not what we doing. I was like, oh, that's what we doing. Oh, yeah. You ain't. Go ahead and say it. You don't sleep with her. You haven't had some of that old bait that she's serving.

She's got a crab boil for your ass that you don't know nothing about. And so I think that there's slowly but surely there's an alliance that has been coming between Baltimore and D.C. At least the hard line has been softened. I won't say there's this slowly but surely there's there's an alliance that has been coming uh between baltimore and dc at least the the the hard line has been softened i won't say there's an alliance but the hard line has been softened but you never hear about this rivalry that we had that goes on i think it's the stupidest thing ever i think that the two uh communities african-american communities in those major cities dc's a major city balt's a major city. I think we need to come together. Is there anything that brings y'all together? I would think like comedy, right? Because I think y'all got such an underrated comedy. It's an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, D.C.

Because you got Dave. You got Donnell. You got Earthquake. Just hilarious. So here's how we feel about that. The same applies. So it's like this. Growing up, anything coming out of Baltimore, you just

automatically X. And if you in Baltimore, anything coming out of D.C., you just automatically X. Nah, they... You don't know them. I learned that from my Baltimore goons. What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no names. What's up with y'all? But I know some straight goons.

And you know, Baltimore, you know, the wire was real. Let's keep it a buck know the wire was real let's let's keep let's keep it a buck the wire was real yeah and the climate in baltimore is it's serious it's very very serious so it's going to take 30 40 years for that alliance to pop off i am not 40 you're talking about black folks who are setting their ways black folks are very very slow to change and unless you have a reason to change a very straightforward reason to change ain't gonna be that much change all right when we come back we're kicking it with joe claire so don't move kiss the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs,

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It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Joe Clare, of course, from Rap Envy Charlamagne Tha Guy We are The Breakfast Club We're kicking it with Joe Clare Of course from Rap City Charlamagne Another thing too I was watching the doc man I've always loved

The interview you did With Big That's an iconic interview Biggie yeah And um I knew that was Big's I couldn't I knew that was Big's

Last interview It was his last Television interview I think Sway Might have been his last Radio He went and did the radio Now did y'all shoot that In LA Shot it in LA Big's last interview. It was his last television interview. I think Sway might have been his last. He went and did the radio. Now, did y'all shoot that in L.A.?

Shot it in L.A. That's when he was laying in the park, right? Yep, we sit down. So we really were on a soundstage and they were shooting the hypnotized video.

The dance scenes were going on in there. So they took a break from that, sat us outside, and that's how that interview popped off always wondered were you concerned for your safety shooting that in la at the time because it was

all the east coast west coast beef and all of that i'm concerned for my safety early day yeah so my head is always on a swivel so i didn't feel any more concerned than i normally feel when i go to la i just know like doing rap city the thing that I knew was, when you go to somebody, when you go to a city, you abide by their rules, you shut your mouth, don't start no s***, won't be no s***. So, nah, I didn't have any extra concerns for my safety that day. We had plenty of

security, and I'm a civilian. Then I sit and I do the interview. It's a great day. C's and Junior Mafia right behind us. The dancer girls are over there, of course. Then Biggie said, you want to smoke something? Ah, the day just got better. I'm not a smoker, but if you're going to smoke with somebody, you're going to smoke with Biggie Smoke. So I had to catch a red eye that night because I was going out on the Deaf Comedy Jam Tour.

This was the first night. So I had to fly home Wednesday after getting getting the interview pack my bags get on the the tour buses coming from kid caprile in new jersey coming down to dc pick me up and then we drive to dallas we do the show in dallas the next night we go to houston do the show in houston had a ball and 3 30 4 o'clock in the morning kid called my phone like yo they say biggie got shot i'm you know it's four o'clock in the morning you've been out drinking and like whatever you know it's just some more hip-hop hearsay then my girlfriend at the time called me she was like they say biggie got shot let me turn on headline news y'all remember headline news used to every

half hour first story rapper christopher wallace has been gunned down and at this point the interview wasn't out interview's not out i just it was this is sunday morning i just was there wednesday this is sunday morning at six in the morning so nah no interview out they ain't get time to chat they still in la partying and just those next couple of weeks when i got to reflect on it i realized i was just numb because tupac had just died and now biggiegie got killed. And I was like, we cannot be that dumb. Are we? Black folks, we really not that stupid. Are we?

Is this who we are? Time has shown that, unfortunately, it's sad. It was one of those times, Charlamagne and Envy, where I really just, I'm very us. I was like, man, a lot of that. So a lot of the hanging out, I just did not want to do. Like, because I don't know what you want. And then I watched Cats. I knew some of the most righteous dudes.

Next thing I know, he come with the chain and he got to get his swag together. You? You already? You? You've been made since you was 19 years, 10 years old. You've been made. You've been a man. I know your, 10 years old you've been made. You've been a man. I know your family.

I know what you stand on. You switching up because you think this is what the culture do? Man. F*** my head up. And has colored how I see us since then. Nothing has changed your mind about us? I mean, remember, leading up to that, I sat in the middle of the East Coast, West Coast thing every week, every day. Every rapper's got something to say about the other coast.

Is that what made you start saying East Coast, West Coast worldwide? I took it straight from the Lost Boys. Yes, we really need to do this. Big shout out to Mac 10 and Fat Joe. Because I don't know if you guys remember, they did a movie. Tickin' in Water? Something like that. And Fat Joe realized.

And Fat Joe used to be coming up to the show like, man, f*** that. I'm keeping the flame going on this East Coast, West Coast. After that, I see Joe, and he's like, nah, they cool. And then you see Mack 10, and Mack 10's like, nah, they cool. They super cool. And then you found out it really wasn't the East Coast versus. It was the media making it, and it was park against biggie and they used to be best friends and now we're looking at really this came down to two best friends fell out now

they have other influences and that just got bigger and bigger and bigger it was out of their control you know we have conversations on the breakfast club that have ended up confrontational did y'all have any of those on rap city that y'all y'all the only person who ever like tried to sum me he sum me one time it was my first live taping and i'm interviewing pete rock and cl smooth oh boy who's my heroes my i know the album back to backward and forward i know everything i know every syllable of that album so it's like five four three two go i'm like hey it's rap city joe clayhead blah blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to do my thing.

So what's up with you? And then I don't get nothing from CL. He's pretty. So then the camera's cut off. He's like, yo, son, you mad extra. I said, what? What you mean? He's like, yo, over the top, B.

You like mad extras, son. Yo, yo, bring it down a little bit. Five, four, three, two. All right, y'all. It's your man, Joe Clair here on Rap City. I got bigger. How did that end? For me, I took it as a vet.

Somebody who was in the industry showing me what he thought I should be. No skin off my, you know, that's what you think I should be. I already know Joe Clair. And if there's nothing else, I know Joe, I know what Joe Clare do. And I stayed extra for five years. We appreciate you, brother.

I appreciate y'all. Make sure y'all watch this conversation. Oh, man. And we just, let me get, there's a few things I'd like to get off my chest. Make sure you follow me at Joe Clare on all social media platforms. If you are in the DMV, watch me every day at 3 o'clock on Fox 5. It's called the DMV Zone.

I am on the news every day. And you'll see it when you tune in. And other than that, just follow your boy, man. When are your next shows? I do my own shows monthly at a spot called Bowie in Bowie, Maryland. So we do a comedy show in Bowie. Very intelligent, well-to-do black crap. So I love going in there.

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Are you someone who knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality? Someone who lives large in life and in the bedroom. Then live large. And now thinner with new magnum raw condoms the thinnest magnum condom available where condoms are sold we're talking about this interview that tyler perry said and tyler perry said this in the interview in our society right now black women are making a lot more money for the most part than black men right there are a lot of black men who are successful but for the most part black women are making the money so you if you can find love if that man works at whatever job and is a good man

and is good to you and honors and honors the house and honors his wife and does what he can because his his gift may not be your gift exactly that is okay that's not somebody who's beneath you yeah that's somebody who came to love you at your worst, right? And as long as he's secure in himself to know that, yep, she makes most of the money. All I can pay is the light bill. As long as she's comfortable enough to say, I'm going to cover the mortgage and all the other stuff. You've had the light bill, baby. You can take me to dinner every now and then.

That is fine. Yeah. That love, that support, that I got you, babe. It's a beautiful thing. So we're that support, that I got you, babe. It's a beautiful thing. So we're asking 800-585-1051. We're talking to women out there, black women out there. Do you believe what he says? Do you believe where, you know, you should stop looking for pockets and look more for love?

I definitely think everybody should stop looking for pockets. You should definitely look for love. You should look for a person that's got good character. You should look for a person that's got a good spirit. You know what I'm saying? Like somebody that's going to hold you down, you know, as a human. Like, because finances go up, finances go down. Correct.

Like, it's not always going to be about money. If all it takes is money, what are you? You a hoe. Wow. That's a trip to the matter. If all it takes is money, you a hoe. That's a little far. That's not.

Okay, but keep in mind, as much as you're telling us to go look for deeper than just the wallets, some people just don't have any depth. There's nothing else to them. Well, I don't think you have any depth if all you're looking for is the money. No, no, no. I didn't say all I was looking for was the money. I don't think you have any depth if all you're saying is I wanted somebody with money. But what if he checks all the boxes?

He's a great guy. He treats you well. You can see him's a great guy. He treats you well. You can see him being a great father. He does everything that you want. We could be friends. Except financial. We could be friends because for me. So you could be friends?

No. No, look, for me, I'm just saying. When it comes to ambition, that's more important than money. So ambition equates to wealth? Like you have to have wealth to be ambitious? No. No. No. You don to have wealth to be ambitious? No. No. No.

No, that makes zero sense. Let's go to the phone lines. A lot of people on the line. These Philly women up here, tough boy. And that's why they sing. Hello, who's this? Hi, I'm Jocelyn. Hey, Jocelyn, good morning.

Good morning. Now let's talk about what Tyler Perry said. What's your thoughts? I think Tyler Perry's statement is rooted in idealism. Like, we're not talking about millionaire salaries. We're talking about average salaries. And even if it's $200,000 or $300,000 a year that a woman is making, men contribute different things to a relationship as do women.

So a man who doesn't make a lot of money is not going to come in the house and cook and clean and, you know, show up in nice lingerie and do all of those things. Why would I be wearing lingerie? Why would I be wearing lingerie? I would cook and I would clean. You know what I'm saying?

And you got to put on some lingerie. And by the way, you're acting like this person is... And black women... But you're acting like this person is unemployed. They've always been asked to settle. And then when they fall and their salaries fall and they fall into a financial situation, it's like, why'd you marry that broke man?

Why'd you marry a man who can't take care of his kids? Because I was broke too. And you attract what you are. Black women always settle. So that's unrealistic to ask them to settle now. I don't think this is settling. I really don't think this is settling. I think that, you know, you shouldn't ask for anything in somebody else that you don't have in yourself.

Don't look for nothing in anyone that you don't have in yourself. Now, see, I really feel like. How can you make those kind of demands, Envy? I really feel like when, I think things got worse when people started concentrating on money, right? And I just look back at my parents, my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents. They didn't have money. It was just, it was about love. My dad was a police officer.

My mom worked at an insurance company. They wasn't money it was just it was about love my dad was a police officer my mom worked at an insurance company they wasn't money they just found love but then I also think about you know when I met my wife I was 15, 16 it wasn't about money

we didn't have any money can you imagine being just think about you broke as hell but you like I don't want nobody but a rich man you broke

you broke why would that rich man want you if you're broke you shouldn't be dating I don't believe that either where are these stupid rules coming from? Hello?

Hello Hey, what's your name? Tay Tay, what's your thoughts on what Tyler Perry said, mama? I do understand where he's coming from And I do also understand where Charlamagne is coming from Because I feel that way as well But I don't think he's saying lower your standards

I think he's just speaking on If you are with someone who just works a regular nine to five and he's affecting it, he's treating you right. He's taking care of the things that he can't take care of with, if you're working, you can take care of something. And if it's a genuine person, don't try to look for someone who makes all of this money just for you not to receive other things that's important as well. Like don't necessarily worry about finances. But I do understand where Charlamagne is coming from with women.

They do tend to always say they want a man with so much money and all these things, but they don't have as much money as well. They want a man with all these fancy cars, but they don't have none at all. Right. That's just the right. Because why would a rich man want a broke woman? Why would I want a woman who just wants me for my money? You know what I'm saying?

That I'm going to end up giving you half of everything that i've ever acquired when this relationship is over for what now victoria somebody else that works up here just came in the room and she came in here so dominican just now she came in here very spicy she was so dominican when she walked in this room tell them say exactly how you said it when you walked in the room i said we can't be two brogies together together and i said yes you can no we can't and sometimes you might just have to be there might not be any other choice but y'all might come up together okay but when when we get into that situation of like oh i'm not happy but like but you knew what he was when you met him and now you're sitting here telling me i need to rock with the bro what makes you think you're gonna be happy with the rich man

the rich man gonna probably treat you worse because the rich man is like, you ain't going to bring nothing to the table. Why do you keep saying rich? We say it's financially stable. No, we didn't. I really agree with him. So what is financially stable? I just said someone that's able to take me out as well. I'm not asking for no bougie stuff or anything.

All I'm saying is- Give me a number. What's financially stable to you? Salary-wise, I would like for him to be at least like $80,000. Okay, I like that. So if you're just joining us, this is our collective up here, our producers up here that work in the back. Y'all was chasing waterfalls for five minutes.

Is that what I'm saying? Now, Victoria, you came in here a little spicy, Vic. Now, if a guy treats you well, does everything he's supposed to do, he's not cheating. Know how to salsa. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? What is it? not cheating. Know how to salsa. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? What is it?

Bachata. Know how to bachata. Know how to bachata. But does not have much money. Do you still date him? Yeah. As long as you're not too broke. What?

God damn. Give me two bucks. That's all I'm saying. I just don't want y'all to stop looking for love, man. Let me ask you a question, though. Stop looking for good character in people, man. What happened to... So y'all don't want to go against what men are supposed to provide and everything else.

Y'all don't want to go against that. What is supposed to provide? Protect and provide. We work hard. Some men do what they can. All I'm saying is meet me where I'm at. That's all I'm saying. And that's all I've been saying.

Don't look for nothing in anybody you don't have in yourself. Exactly. Let's meet each other where we at. That's all I'm saying. So don't say, well, he's a good guy, blah in yourself let's meet each other where we at that's all I'm saying well if he's a good guy blah blah blah but he's not at the level that I'm at

no no no but you know I want you first of all I would encourage people to never date Taylor because she's a terrible person

excuse me excuse me she's a terrible human that's not what he said that's not what he said behind the scenes that's the truth very mean

very mean very violent I would never want you to date a woman like Taylor stop I'm tough Very mean. That was love. Very mean. It's not true. Very mean. Very violent. I know. I know. I don't want you to date a woman like Taylor. I'm tough. I'm going to challenge you. That's what it is.

Let's go to the phone. These Philly women are crazy. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Erica. How y'all doing? Good morning. What do you think of what Tyler Perry said? I think she was wrong.

I honestly do. It's in the Bible. What do you mean she? Tyler's supposed to get out and work by the 20s. Tyler's a grown man. I'm just saying, read the Bible.

That's the hierarchy of things the man is supposed to protect and provide. Yes, I agree. I gotta take care of you financially. You might as well be one of my kids. Provide doesn't necessarily mean buy Chanel bags and Birkins and cars. that means food and make sure you're safe and you think a man can't protect and

provide for you just because you got more money but why am i making more money in the first place is the question if you're supposed to be i mean a real man is not going to take that a real that's not true you see i'm going to hold the household down i wish men thought if men if men thought like this women wouldn't who would have, who would women be with? Women. You know what I'm saying? Actually, son, in some cultures, they don't even allow their women to work. I'm not agreeing with that because I'm an independent woman, married independent woman.

But at the same time, I believe the man is supposed to hold everything down. A woman is supposed to hold down the kids the household him mentally physically emotionally and why i have to do all of that and provide the money as well well let me ask you a question if you already got the money as a woman if you rich already there's only one other thing to have and that's love there's only one other thing to have that's a man that's gonna hold you now and protect you and care for you that's's it. But how can he love himself if he's inadequate to provide financially for you? He might have 12 inches!

Whoa. He might have what? And not loyal, Char. And not loyal. But that's crazy. Is that what you need? The man might have 12 inches, man. No one wants that either. Nobody wants that either? Nobody wants that. See, I don't want 12 inches.

Y'all want money. Why do y'all want that? I don't know what y'all talking about. Y'all don't even know what y'all want. What's the moral of the story? We know what you want. The moral of the story is this simple for me. Don't look for nothing in anybody you don't have in yourself.

And everybody got to stop looking at finances as the reason to be with somebody. Because at the end of the day, finances ain't going to keep y'all together. Love is going to keep y'all together. You know, because you got to grow old with old with this person you gotta actually like this person you know what i'm saying if y'all don't have that i don't know what to tell you he also needs a 401k geez all right well sure when we come back nice person that's right you know what i'm saying there's plenty of rich men that will treat y'all terribly how we gonna grow old together if you can't afford to grow old together? Damn.

Make it make sense. I don't know what you're talking about right now. I just know. Tell me why a rich man would want a broke woman. Nobody can ever answer that question. Who can you say rich? Okay, why would a financially stable person want a woman who's not financially stable?

You asked. I just need somebody to answer that. Why would a financially stable man want a woman who's not financially stable? I can't. I agree with you. I feel like they should be both. They like to trick. But that's also their ego too though.

That's their ego a lot of times. A lot of guys want to I know a lot of guys that want to be able to make more than the woman for their ego standpoint. Not necessarily like And I would tell y'all that's not the type of man y'all should be dating. Alright. Well. That's it. I would tell y'all run from that type of guy.'all should be dating. All right. Well. That's it. I will tell y'all to run from that type of guy.

It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club. Everybody, it's DJ and the Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Lauren LaRosa here, our special guest host. And we got a special guest with us today. We had a topic talking about some statements that she said.

Ladies and gentlemen, Ebony K. Williams. Don't nobody stir it up like Ebony K. What's up, Envy? What's up, Char? What's up, Ms. Warren? Hi, how are you? Good morning. Good morning.

Envy, I was going to be very, very pissed and disappointed if you weren't Skyping in. Why? Well, because I didn't know if I'd ever be back up here, to be candid. If you don't stop. No, I really don't. Why? It was tight last time. You think so?

Yeah, but God is good. I came with my Godly own. You don't think no i really why it was it was it was tight last time yeah but god is good i came with my godly own you don't think godly on we good it's really god is good i would say this you know every time we have a conversation we're always not gonna agree but you're always invited up here regardless i mean we're not gonna agree on everything but the best thing about us is just having a conversation so never think that you can't come up here for something you say no that's what these conversations and these platforms are about. I'm half playing, but it's a good point. And it's worth saying out loud. So I appreciate that.

And I love you, sister. I don't want you to think I don't love you. I love you, for real. I appreciate everything that you do. And it's just like anything else. You go hardest in the paint with your fam. In the paint. As in the paint that's on your face.

Shut up, Charlamagne. Well, I'm happy you're here. Thank you, Lauren. I said yesterday I would love to have a conversation with you about the video. Now, what's the topic of conversation? I feel like this is a conversation that men shouldn't even be involved in. I agree. But what is the gist of the conversation?

It's not for you, Charlamagne. I agree. So I'm glad that you said that. This is a conversation for ladies. And I texted my good friend Charlamagne. I said, as a friend to the show, I heard the conversation yesterday. I appreciated the critique and the constructive nature of it. And I said,

since I'm down the street on the train, let me pull up and I want to hear from you, Lauren, about what you agree with and what you disagree with and have a ladies conversation about it. Let's do it. So I think for me, I'll start with what I disagree with. Well, Kim, first for people that

don't know, you want to play the clip of what went viral so people understand that clip to bring everybody up this red you got the clip let's play the clip red the reality is that our marriage and partnership market value is depreciating with every passing year no matter how good we look no matter how fit we are men are still seeing primarily our presumed dwindling fertility as a knock against us. So here's my advice. If you are a young black woman in college and you know in your heart and in your head that you want to prioritize family, I suggest that you simultaneously pursue that MRS degree right along with that BA or JD. Because a handful of black college-age men that actually do desire to get married soon, and they do share that value system, and family is a priority for them too.

Y'all, that is an incredibly small pool, and it's shrinking as you get older. And by the time you reach my age, 40, you will be faced with different choices relating to life partnership and motherhood so i think um all right so breaking it down into what i agree and what i disagree with so the disagreeing for me came with the starting with the infertility and the uh the market value they're appreciating so with the infertility i know some i said this yesterday some stuff is science right you can't get around that but I feel like when you start with that and you lead with that it then makes people get defensive and they don't even hear the rest of it I know when I first listened to it I was like oh god this is going to be another one of those conversations where like someone's telling me as a woman by the time you get this age your life is over and you know when you're when you're like trying to figure things out and you're like, I'm 31 years old, right?

Like I'm recently out of a very long relationship. I heard. You want to feel. I heard. Charlamagne told me. He always did my big thing. Charlamagne told me. Jesus Christ.

Charlamagne told me. My big thing. Charlamagne told me, Laura. Don't worry. There's life after. Go ahead, sis. But that's my point is like for me, I made a very conscious decision with a lot of things in my life, going to college, being in the relationship that I was in, not being in that relationship. Even with my like recent, you know, back and forth to East Coast, West Coast, like I've always had to be very conscious and cognizant of the fact that like, you know, as a woman, as a black woman.

Right. Especially working in the space that I work in, I might not get that other chance. Like, I got to do it right the first time. And I think... You're talking about professionally? Professionally and personally. Okay. And only because that's what... And what are your personal goals?

Just so we're clear. Do you want marriage and children? My personal goals, I want marriage. And that nuclear family foundation. I want all of that. Great. I don't even have a number of kids. Once we start, we start. I just want to have twins first. We're not going to get into the minutia of that. But you don't even have a number of kids once we start we start i just want to know we're not gonna get in the minutiae of that but yeah but

yes i'm going to be an amazing mom but i just feel like when you lead with the stuff that you lead with it instantly turns the conversation negative and for someone like me who is watching and learning and listening to you it makes it where now i am defensive i don't want to watch listen and learn i don't hear the rest of what you're saying so now I'm not being taught and I should feel like I can listen to you and learn from you and not feel like you're the op right and that's how it starts off when you instantly are telling me everything negative about what I already am facing every single day and I think that that's a big part of it too is like when you put certain truths in front of people

it hurts people don't want to hear it but beyond, like you can't get around the infertility. The second thing was the market value. Right. I don't agree. I don't know where you were at 31. But for me, I feel like I'm just now getting to the space where like the people that I'm able to or not even able to. But the people that I'm dating, the life experiences that I'm experiencing that are teaching me what I want what I don't want I'm right now in the best space that I've ever been in and that wasn't me in college I didn't know what I wanted in college I didn't know who I was in college I seen nothing haven't done anything I also I didn't agree with that but go ahead yeah let's just because you put two big ones out and let's break them down before we get ahead of ourselves okay so you're 31 years old, a college-educated woman, enjoying a very successful career in a high-profile space.

I'm going to put my hands together for all of that. Now, when I say market value depreciating, Lauren, did you hear what I said before that? Did you hear the specificity of the particular marketplace I'm speaking about? No, which was that? Okay, so I want to just go back actually to your first point, Lauren, which I think you are conceding that you had a reaction to my commentary that was so visceral in nature that you actually shut down your listening comprehension skills. You said that.

Okay, so because of that though, right? I'm not going to sit in a posture of ownership because you made a choice to be limited in the way in which you received and processed the information now you are a grown woman and you have autonomy over what you choose to consume and what you choose to not consume so when i was giving the advice the strategy the game putting you know certain people up on some game. I'm talking to a very limited pool of young black ladies, the ones that are currently in school or immediately following school or graduate school. And then the other caveat, I'll say the other place this information is in real time relevant to are the mothers or even the fathers of those young women. That's who this is for so you this is actually not even applicable to you lauren so no no let me finish no no i have to finish because

you wait no no no wait wait wait i have to finish my thoughts i just want to wait before you finish your thought i just want to like let's rewind a little bit because i also think too the reason why people also because not just me or the people because even the people it's meant for, I'm sure some of them did the same exact thing as well, too. And some did not. Right. And some did not. And some did not. Because you read all the comments, right?

Yeah, I did. But what I think happens is with you, and I'm saying this in the most respectful way, I think that the way that you approach things, like even this conversation right now, it can make, it does that. It dilutes the whole point of like where. For you. For you, Lauren. You're talking to me conversation right now yeah it can make it it does that it dilutes the whole point of like for you for you you're talking to me specifically right now you agreed with evan you know i agree with certain parts of it but i think that the my whole point of what i'm saying right because right now i feel like you're taking what i didn't agree with and the fact that i don't remember specific words or whatever you said lauren really i really think this would be better served and more productive.

If just like I it's kind of like an opening statement in a court of law. I gave you a good amount of time to lay out two prongs of disagreement. And I respect and appreciate both of your positions. I'm not saying they are wrong. Look at me, messy. I'm not saying they're wrong at all. But I am saying that I don't know how productive it is to be the time, manner and delivery police. Right. So when we talk about and also the nature of this work that we all do in this space of media and journalism, whatever we want to call it. Right. It's very subjective in nature.

So for everybody, Lauren, that takes your position, which is very valid, it was visceral to me. I found it triggering. It felt hurtful. I felt attacked. I felt policed. I felt ****ed on, whatever it is. There's also a whole nother contingency of black women that felt seen by that commentary, that felt heard. I had Soros coming up to me.

We had a fundraiser. Shout out to the Pi Kappa Omega chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. It's Kiwi. We had a fundraiser that very night that that commentary dropped. And I had Soros coming up to me who are more in my age group, right? Because that's the first thing we need to acknowledge. Lauren and I are not the same age. There's a good 10 years between me and this lovely young lady.

So I'm speaking from a purview of experience that looks a bit different not vastly so but a bit different i agree and my peers who are 40 and up are like i wish someone would have told me and the fact that you are doing the labor ebony you are doing the service of letting young girls that are currently in position to put themselves in best practices because they are currently in school or graduate school or shortly thereafter matters and it's good that somebody is rolling up their sleeves and doing the work and having the conversation publicly that quiet as kept many pockets of black elite culture are having with their children generationally every day. Many of my peers, Lauren, when I went to UNC Chapel Hill, who were black just like me and you, right?

They were taught going into the front end of freshman year. Keep your eyes open. You know, get those grades. Get that degree. I expect you to go to medical school or law school or PhD. And also, if you want the traditional model and that's a big if this is going to be the best time to be surrounded by the highest concentration of black men that are also pursuing the educational and fiscal model that you are and you desire. And it's really no more or less than that. I don't disagree. Hold on one second, guys.

Hold on one second, ladies. We got to take a break. So we'll come back. And we also want to take some calls 800-585-1051 and if you're just joining us that's lauren larosa she's our special guest host today and ebony k williams is up here and i think it's very important when we come back let's talk about what we agree with in this yeah i want to get to that too because i don't want you to feel like because what we do when we come back yeah we're gonna come back yeah okay all right? Yeah. We do it when we come back. Yeah, okay. All right, it's The Breakfast Club. Come on. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max.

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And we have Ebony K. Williams Joining us this morning And we're taking your calls as well 800-585-1051 Now we're discussing Some comments that Ebony K. Williams made That went viral yesterday

So now Right before we left I cut both you guys off So we can pay some bills and get some music on so i know everybody k williams you were talking i was so i was acknowledging lauren's right right to consume content that she enjoys and feels comfortable with and also reject that which she doesn't because her critique at this point i understand is a bit about my it's about my delivery as much as the substance of what i'm saying i think that

the disagreement again comes in with how you say and we don't get that vulnerability right so me sitting here with you right now is like this is what i want to feel when i see the content i might not always get that though and maybe it's not like you said it wasn't for me it was for the girls that's still in college right but at the same time it's placed on my timeline so i get it and i feel it i stop and i listen either way but i'm you do. Shout out to the team at the Griot. Go ahead. But I was going to get to that. But what I did agree with was the fact like when you started talking about the pool of men getting smaller when it comes to those men, men who will be honest about what they want when it comes to the family, a woman, they are actually worth the time, the energy. It's it's consistent.

You're getting the same energy that you're putting out it does get smaller as you get older and like now that i'm out here in the dating world i'm like oh okay and keep in mind you're only 30 right 31 so it's like as you get to 40 that that the the pool has shrunk further 50 even more so and i've dated i'm having me before i'm 50 i'm having me and listen i'm not even i got i got i actually believe in the power of the tongue so i believe I've dated up to late 50s. I'm going to have a man before I'm 50. Claim it, Lauren. I actually believe in the power of the tongue. So I believe so you speak so you have and you will desire. I do want to speak to the fertility part because it's very important. It is. As I sit here with y'all today, I'm literally on some fertility drugs.

I am preparing for my embryo transfer in the next few weeks. Now, I am 40 years old just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago y'all know i've been very transparent about my motherhood journey i'm doing it solo by choice y'all know i froze eggs at 34 years old i'm doing this i'm excited to be a mom uh i'm scared as hell i know it's going to be the hardest thing i've ever done in my life and yet i cannot wait to enter this this this mother era of my life and also lauren i don't think this is how most black women want to do it. Why?

I was going to say, why solo by choice? Well, several reasons. Number one, I'm no longer willing to wait to activate my pursuit of motherhood. I'm no longer willing to wait. I've been married and divorced in my late 20s. I had also a long-term relationship many years ago. I ended up engagement during the pandemic.

I'm ready for my baby. I am ready to pour into someone other than me. Finally, it took me a very long time to get here, but when she ready, she ready. Okay. Now, I don't think that most women, most black women desire doing this journey alone. I don't. It's very important. And I know that you mentioned yesterday

the egg freezing. So let's talk about that. Yeah. Because I think that that is marketed, not just you, Lauren. I think in general, that is in a lot of these comments, right? Well, girl, just freeze your eggs

and don't worry about the rest. That's some bulls**t because I'm here to tell you because I'm living it, right? I froze eggs at 34. I never thought in a million years I would need to use them, right? Because why? I was in a loving years I would need to use them, right? Because why?

I was in a loving, committed relationship. These were my spare. Have you frozen eggs at this point, too? No, I thought about doing it last year. I thought about starting the process. Okay, so let me just, and this is not investigative. I'm just trying to see something here. Do you know how many eggs, on average, a woman should have on ice, on reserve on reserve frozen for a probability of one live

birth no i don't about 20 then if i say okay how many egg retrievals are required to get about 20 eggs and a woman that's say 35 and up the answer is at least two what's the cost average of an egg retrieval emmy probably knows this but he knows it's between 12 and 15 000 per retrieval cycle that most assurances don't cover most assurances do not cover unless you're working at google or amazon and by the way you probably need to be married for them to cover it otherwise they consider it elective they don't recognize it as infertility in the way that married couples that struggle to conceive have. So what I'm saying is the egg freezing route, the single motherhood by choice route, the IVF route are amazing technological tools, Lauren, but they are wealthy women tools, period.

Let's be very clear. It's just more to it than just freezing it. I get you. I think with that part for me, I was speaking from my own personal experience. And I think that like hearing you respond to it, I can understand your response to what I said. But I think maybe I should have been a little bit more clear because for me at that. Still freezing, though, because you have money at that time when I was thinking about doing it. It was because the insurance that I was getting through my employer supported that to a certain extent where anything like, yes, it is expensive, but I would have been able to figure it out.

So I think you should still do it. I want that to i don't want that missed here i'm still encouraging you to do it i will say i got a little bit i got like scared out of it a little bit only because out of god don't do that but but more so because of what like envy shared with me what you talked about like going through all of that and then it i'll go with you to not work right i'll go with you we can talk about i'm very serious i really so so i'm saying two things here and this is important in this conversation y'all people have got i encourage people i'll say to hold space for more than one thing at one time and i feel like what ebony just said now is very important all ebony is saying is this isn't ideal and you don't want it's not you don't want folks to have to necessarily go through this for me

let me just reiterate that because that's very important because this is this is these these stakes are very high lauren i'm fifty thousand dollars into uh ivf journey by myself so i don't have a husband splitting that with me which i which there's reasons why that's preferable for me but i really need people to hear that and i'm taking shots and i'm giving them to myself and i'm doing all this to bring life into this world yeah and and i don't take it lightly because it's a very serious thing so i think when we were very cavalier not not just you right but in general with oh just ivf or oh just marry outside the race obviously been there done that too that that well i heard some snow no king commentary earlier hold up hold up guys hold up guys we gotta take some calls yeah we gotta take some calls

we gotta take some calls 800-585-1051 if you listen okay let's go we gotta take some calls when we come back i just want to say this i just want to say this most people don't know what what ebony's going through right now with the with the in vitro fertility no because no because most people haven't been through it. And the fact that... Thank you, Charlamagne. But the people that listen to Holden Court, they get that every day. But the fact that she has to do it by herself is a lot.

Like, she has to put those shots in her stomach and all that by herself. Thank you, NBR. And most people don't know it. Like, I can't even imagine if my wife had to do it by herself or a woman having to do it by herself and go to those doctor's appointments. It's a lot. Being in that waiting room by yourself. It's a lot. I can't even imagine if my wife had to do it by herself or a woman having to do it by herself and go to those doctor's appointments. It's a lot. Being in a waiting room by yourself. It's a lot.

I can't imagine that. And the transfer. We'll take some calls. We'll take some calls when we come back. We got to talk about the stuff that we agreed with, too, because a lot of people agree with some things. Well, that's up to the callers to probably get to some of it. We ain't got all that much time, guys. 800-585-1051.

Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Our special guest host, Lauren LaRosa, is here. And Ebony K. Williams is still here.

We're having a grown-up discussion this morning. And we're opening up the phone lines. I'm going to let you guys out there get a chance to chop it up with Ebony K. Williams. All right? 800-585-1051. And we just want to say it's a respectful conversation. So as soon as the disrespect happens, we're banging on it. That's right.

No bus drivers. Okay, bus driver gate has happened. We're on to something else now. You stop it, Charlamagne. Hello, who's this? Alicia. Hey, Alicia. Good morning.

Hey, how are you? Good, good, good. Ebony K. Williams is here. You got a question, comment? Oh, well, I just kind of wanted to agree with her. First of all, she stated that if this is what you want, then you're like, this is what I suggest. So she was not pushing that on anyone. But if we're being honest, that's what our counterparts teach their girls.

Go to college and find a husband. Education is almost secondary to especially white Southern women. So I don't see a problem with it. Is that true? Thank you, sis. It absolutely is true. So, you know, I went to UNC Chapel Hill, a very predominantly white institution

in the South, as the good sis just mentioned. And that ring before spring is serious for them. What they're looking to do, because our counterparts tend to view marriage primarily through a lens of economic stability. Let's be clear. And historically, we know that is

the nature of marriage. Correct. It's a's a transaction of sorts and i know once again uh you know the tears are going to roll when i say that out loud for some because because they they are not willing to really stand in the reality of the tenets of of marriage in america today love don't pay mortgage right so that's that's the reality. And our counterparts do it all the time. The difference is they are not shamed when they do it. I think that when you see black girls and black young women going and making the space for marriage as much of a priority as education,

it flies in the face of a generation that told me and mine, go to school, stay focused, don't get pregnant. Boys are a distraction, right? They're going to throw you off your game. Get your education, get your money, get your house, get your power, figure out who you are, stand in it, and then go partner, get married and live happily ever after. The challenge with that, because that's the model I took. I'm proud to have taken it.

I had a little default start in marriage that was not for me so i divorced him not a problem great guy here's the thing here's the thing is most black women do want the traditional marital nuclear family model and when you get to a certain level of income as black women a certain level of power a certain level of being able to travel the world on your own dime and be in the sky lounge without some dusty sun swipe that shrinking happens the shrinking happens and also let me tell you what else you move differences you move you you think your swag is on a thousand today and it's very high and i love seeing it wait till you wait till you're over that million dollar a year mark of income wait till it it's like, wait till you own your $1.7 million property in your own name.

And only your name is on the deed. Based on a true story, Ebony K. Williams. I'm just saying, nobody's going to be able to tell you shit unless they're coming all the way correct. Period. And that's going to make that pool rather even smaller. Go ahead, Amy. Let's take some more calls here. Yeah, sorry.

Hello, who's this? Sophia. Hey, Sophia. What's your question for Ebony K. Go ahead, Andy. Let's take some more calls here. Yeah, sorry. Hello, who's this? Sophia. Hey, Sophia. What's your question for Ebony K. Williams? Not question. Well, I guess a question. I have a few things.

Like, how were you raised? I was seen, I've seen that you were 40. I'm 48. I'm a black woman raised with black women. We were not raised to go look for a man.

We wasn't raised to just go look for a ring. Oh, my God. I just go look for a man. We wasn't raised to just go look for a ring. Oh, my God, I just have to have a man. We were raised to respect ourselves, to love God. And if God saw fit for us to be married, our husband would find us. Like, it's like you putting your failures or how that you seem like you failed because you didn't get a ring in college, but you putting it off on other women, especially black women. I don't know any other race, but that's not how I was raised.

Okay. Let Ebony respond. Yeah. Good morning, assist. So listen, I was raised by a God fearing, incredible black woman named Gloria who raised me to go to school, go to more school, get the bag and stand in my truth and power. So that's the first answer to your question. As for failure, I don't have any in the space, dear.

I actually was married. I had a beautiful cushion cut diamond on my finger until I decided to give it back because I no longer wanted to be married. So I don't have failure in the space. The only reason I'm not married is because I divorced my husband. Now, as to putting this on black women, I'm doing no such thing. What I know for a fact, because I have this on black women, I'm doing no such thing. What I know for fact, because I have sorority sisters, I have good friends, I have a strong global sisterhood of black women who tell me, some of them tell me that despite their success, despite their careers,

and despite their money, they in their carter hearts still desire marriage. It is something that they want. And I think we got to get rid of shaming black women for wanting what they want for the black women that that is already a desire of their heart to be married in a timely fashion that's who this advice is for if you don't want that i want nothing but what you want for yourself i think a lot of people take the stance that she took because you literally like a lot of people don't know certain things, right? They don't listen. But I also think that people are one more time.

They don't know certain things and they don't listen. But wait, another important point is I think a lot of people take you just as a personality and all that you have going on as like you look and speak down on people. And I think with black women is instantly triggering because we've had that happen so much. Right. And that's why that happens where she's like well how were you raised like even the way that she came into that call was like you think that you're better or you think that you're right doing something that other people have not done right and i think that happens a lot with you yeah it's a projection yeah so i'm 40

right so none of that's new lauren just so you know like when you walk through the world carrying yourself the way i do having my aesthetic projections and presumptions about who I am and what my values are come with the territory. But that's also why I do the work I do. I got 100 episodes of Holdin' Court people can watch. I'm on every day here locally in New York, channel 55 1130 AM.

Equal Justice with Judge Ebony. Yes, I'm judging you. And several other things. I got two books out including Ben on Bike. What'd you say, baby? I saw two books out, including... I saw it in Vegas this weekend, by the way. Ben, I'm like, what'd you say, baby? I saw Equal Justice in Vegas this weekend. You saw it? Yeah, it's nationally syndicated. I'm in 85% of American homes.

So there's lots of content to consume. Well, let's go to another caller. Hello, who's this? Hi, my name is Tish. I'm calling from Houston. Hey, Tish. What's your question for Ebony K. Williams? It's not really a question.

I'm just saying I'm... Well, first of all, good morning to everybody. I just want to say that I am Team Ebony, and I don't see anything that she's saying is wrong. She's letting her platform, everyone who follows her, know that as an older woman, I'm just giving you advice. I've been there. I've been through college, and this is my feelings based on my experiences,

and I just feel like she should be respected for it. Okay. Well, thank you for calling, Mama. Appreciate it, sis. Thank you so much. Have a good day. You too, now. Let's put a button on this, man.

Yeah, let's wrap this up. I appreciate it. Listen, I appreciate the platform. I appreciate the conversation, Lauren. I do, too. I think that as black women in particular, we've got to hold the space to have the difficult conversations. All right.

Well, we appreciate you joining us and having a great conversation. Make sure you subscribe to the Holdin' Court Podcast. Yeah, we're back with season 3 soon. Did I keep the same energy? I don't know, man. You shrunk a little bit. No, you love to come for me. You love it when I ask you.

I don't even know why I ask you. I don't even know why you ask me either, girl. Hold on, make sure you watch Equal Justice 2. Thank you. That's right. Thank you, ladies. I don't even know why I asked you. I don't even know why you asked me either, girl. Hey, Miss Lucy. Hold on. Make sure you watch Equal Justice, too. Thank you. That's right. Thank you, ladies. It's The Breakfast Club.

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Its smart technology identifies qualified candidates for you, and you can invite your top choices to apply. Try it for free at ziprecruiter.com slash breakfast. Donkey of the day. Damn, the hee-haw again. It's time for donkey of the day. I ain't trying to be donkey of the day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things.

They called donkey of the day, and it really caught me off guard damn solomon who got the donkey of the day today well just hilarious uh donkey of the day which was a double donkey it goes to 38 year old keith chastain and the clovis police department uh it comes a point in time in life where we all must remember it takes two. OK, two. All right. Kids gather around you. Uncle Charlotte would like to tell you about some things that have been going on since the 1900s. OK, one of those things is the saying it takes two. OK, it takes two to tango.

That means that a situation or argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible for it. I repeat, it takes two to tango means that a situational argument involves two people and they are both therefore responsible for it. It takes two. There's also a classic hip hop record that will make anyone with a soul who grew up in the 1980s lose their mind. OK, the reason I'm giving you this history lesson today is because in this donkey that I'm delivering, it absolutely took to you. All right? See, Keith was arrested 10 times in one month. I repeat, Keith Chastain was arrested 10 times in one month.

See, y'all think I be lying. Let's go to Fox 26 News for the report, please. Local law enforcement agencies say they are very familiar with 38-year-old Keith Chastain, who has been booked in Fresno County Jail not once, not twice, but 10 times in the last 31 days. Chastain is from Fresno and is currently facing 18 felonies and 15 misdemeanors from his recent arrests, according to Clovis Police Department. His charges include stealing six vehicles, a DUI, vandalism, fraud, possession of controlled substance, and more. Clovis Police Department alone says it has arrested Chastain six times

in the last month. Around 9.30 Tuesday morning, Clovis police received a call about a stolen truck that Chastain was suspected of driving. Police say an officer found the stolen truck driving in Old Town Clovis and followed it until more officers arrived. Officers pulled Chastain over in front of Clovis Police Department and arrested him without incident. Police say he was the only person in the stolen truck and happened to be on his way to pick up his personal property from Clovis Police Department from the last time he was arrested. Mind you, he was in a stolen vehicle. Now, as you just heard, Keith Chastain was arrested ten times by Clovis police six times.

Okay. Six times by Clovis police and four times by other agencies. He was in a stolen vehicle on the way to pick up his items from the jail. Okay. Now, if he had gotten locked up by different agencies once or twice, I would understand. But if you get locked up by the same agency,

the Clovis police department, six times, six times six times at what point does it become the police department's fault as well for constantly letting you out at what point does it become a judge's fault for constantly granting you bail he's facing 18 felonies and 15 misdemeanors with charges including stealing six vehicles dui evangelism fraud possession of a controlled substance, and a whole lot more at some point, maybe after arrest number three, possibly after arrest number five. Surely at arrest number six, someone at the Clovis Police Department has to say, no need to let this man out because he's just going to come right back. If the Clovis Police Department had a customer loyalty program like Starbucks or Subway or Sephora, this man, Keith, would get his 10th arrest for free.

OK, get arrested nine times, get your 10th arrest for free. Clearly, this man has a boyfriend behind those walls. Either that or he likes the food. OK, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. And this man, Keith, has shown us he's a serial criminal. OK, so give him what he wants. And what he wants is clearly zero bond 10 arrests in 31 days insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting

different results so yes keith is insane because he keeps committing crimes and the same crimes and getting locked up and the clovis police department is insane because they keep locking keith up for these crimes the same crimes and letting them out they both are to blame so please give Keef Chastain a he and give the Clovis Police Department a ha together because it takes two to give them the biggest hee-haw this man wrote his name in jail yo that's why they say don't write your name they say don't write your name on the walls in jail. You keep coming back to that jail. Jesus.

The Breakfast Club. 6'3", 6'4"? 6'4", 6'5". Damn. Now, Swiss, is this your son that played soccer and then stopped? No, that's my little brother, Kazi. That's your little brother, Kazi. Everybody in the house is your little something, man.

That's a fact. Fair enough. Now, as we approach the holidays, what does this time of year mean to you, Swiss? Oh, man, holiday times is definitely family times and definitely times to, you know, see how other people are doing. Because I know it's like during the holiday times, I see a lot of pressure come on people of what they can do and what they can't do and um and I just want to you know I just want people to find their balance absolutely when do you find the time for a lot of the stuff that you're doing because you're producing you do verses you're traveling you have kids when do you find the time to continue to create and do all these amazing things um everything I do is under the umbrella of creativity so like I make the time

and I need to stay busy you know like that's the key is like to stay busy because um I don't feel I started yet to be honest I feel like I'm just now starting although I've done a lot of things I feel like I'm just now starting because I actually know what I'm doing now oh explain that expound on that you know what you're doing now. Oh, explain that. Expound on that. You know what you're doing now. Yeah, because when I started, I was a teenager, and things was happening and moving so fast. So you don't really know what you're doing at that age. You're just having fun.

I still have fun, but now that that's passed, you got time to say, okay, let me change different things. Let me set different goals. I went back to school To you know Three years To know what I'm actually doing Instead of just

Doing what people are telling me That I'm doing Or believing what somebody Is telling me I'm doing Instead of really knowing What I'm doing It's a big difference What's your favorite holiday memory?

Is it New York In the Bronx Is it now What's your favorite Holiday memory? It's all of them Technically We have fun as a family memory is it new york in the bronx is it now what's what's your favorite holiday memory this is all of them technically like we we have fun as a family like we have a big family we have fun we tell jokes you know we play pranks play a lot of games uno we're very competitive with the ping pong uno monopoly who wins a monopoly all the Monopoly will start an argument in my house that lasts three days in my crib.

Yeah. Same. Who wins? Yeah. Alicia's very good. She's very strategic. Egypt. Egypt's very good.

Egypt. My little brother Egypt, he's like the Monopoly man. He's like Daddy Warbucks. He's a... He loves money. Loves money. He gives it from mom and dad. He loves just counting the paper.

He's addicted to money. I'm telling you. Really? Serious. Yeah. And I said, what's your expectations for the holidays? Because your dad's been doing very well for a very long time. So do you even have any wants?

I just want everyone to tune in to Drive, what we just made. Okay. And I want everyone to just really cherish this time with their family. That's what I want. I don't really have a lot of physical needs this year. I have spiritual needs. I have family needs. And I want people to really just cherish this time with their loved ones right now because the state that the world is in right now. It's just really we need that.

That's real. Now let's talk about the show Drive, right? Now Drive is a car show that comes out. Most people don't know that any time before I purchase a car, I call Swizz. And then when I get the car, I FaceTime Swizz. So if a FaceTime ever comes up, Swizz will be in the bed sleeping. And he'll wake up, what did you get now, Envy? What did you get?

Like we're so excited for cars. So let's talk about drive and what made you want to do this show, Drive. Well, in Turbo, I paid, what, $6,000 for it at the time. And ever since then, I've just been into cars and collecting and ended up doing car shows. So when there's opportunity for community, family, father and son, you know, you don't really get to see father and son bonds from our community. That's positive. So I thought that that was a plus. And we wanted to educate people and not just show bling cars, not just putting million dollar cars up,

but really showing the everyday person how they make magic as well, you know, which I think is phenomenal. What's it like working with each other? Who, my little brother? We have so much fun. It's not even funny. We don't really have perfect synthesis. We don't know how to work with each other very, very well. I was going to ask, you know what?

You guys went to different markets, so you've seen the car culture in new york you know the car coaching houston and california what was your favorite car culture and why i love japan japan japan is definitely one of my favorite episodes because the architecture the culture there they're like 500 years ahead of us right so every single every single uh thing that they do there they're so masterful with it so when we went to go see the drifting uh we went to actually go drift with the tokyo drifters of the drift champion never again we just saw how crazy like skillful they were for us to put our lives in their hands and for them to actually

you know be able to handle that you know they were good when you put our lives in their hands and for them to actually you know be able to handle that you know they were good when you say 500 years into the future like what do you mean like you know america is a young continent like asia is five this is way older and culturally and i'm talking about the technology of the car historically oh no, we're not flying. You're about to make him go deep on you. But in terms of them being masterful at every single thing they do, whether it's making a drink, cutting ice, designing, doing anime, comic book sketches, architecture, painting clothes, we go there for inspiration. So being over there to go into the depth of their culture was like,

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Oh man. And it was so good. Cause it was for our annual change for change. Um, I got a salute to Amazon, uh, all throughout our change for change. Cause they were taking care of people's holiday wish lists, as well as a nice event we did here last week where they gave everybody who came to the event $1,000. So thank you to Amazon.

All right, well, let's jump into our interview with Swiss Beats and his son, Nasir. Who's your favorite road trip partner, Swiss? Nasir or DMX? Because we always hear about the stories of you and X in the car. That's legendary. That's a hard one. I love you. But I got to say DMX. I love you too. For a lot of

other reasons. You know, X was very animated. Nasir's laid back. He can get animated when he wants to. But I would get to hear stories from X that I never heard before when we were in the car. Like the last car ride we drove, I went to go visit him in upstate New York. And he wanted to go see Scarface in Boston.

And he's like, yo, you know, Scarface is in Boston tonight. I said, okay, shout out to Scarface. I just drove like two hours to go where he was at in the first place and this one I had the 720 mclaren so it's the sports car and I used to always bring the cars up so X could drive them around when I when I visit him and he's like hinting again I want to go see Scarface I'm like you want to go You want me to take you To see Scarface

I just drove two hours And he never really Asked me for things like that So I can tell That it was something That he really wanted to do So we get in the ride We get in the car

We go Five hours To see Scarface Wow And the whole time Five hours in a little ass car There wasn't no Big escalade

It's little car Like his arm And their arms Were touching the whole ride. Yeah, my ass still hurt from that drive. Right? And so we're driving, and he's playing old school music, old school music.

And then he stops the music, and he asked me to record him, which he never does. And he just, like, gave me his life story. Like, I never heard it before. Wow. And that was our last drive I never heard it before. Wow. And that was our last drive, but it was epic. Wow. You still have, of course you have.

Absolutely, yes, yes. Wow. And we went on stage and he rocked with Scarface all night. Is it time for a DMX documentary, a true DMX movie? It's always time to witness greatness. But I feel that it just has to be. Me personally, I just wanted to be shot and directed to the standard of what he gave us. He gave us timeless moments. He gave us his life, literally.

And so I feel that a lot of people have been pitching Documentaries and movies, but they know, you know, it needs to have the right care and I want it to be the biggest thing in the world for him Yeah, now did you learn anything about your dad that you didn't know? No after working on this series taking these long road trips a thousand percent. I learned that he um, He doesn't go as fast as you think he would, having the very fast cars. He actually is pretty reserved now.

And he really picks what he wants to do. He picks how fast he wants to go. He picks if he wants to get in the monster truck. He picks if he wants to go drifting. He has that situational discernment now that's pretty good discernment i like that i was gonna ask you know with all the artists that your dad worked with who did you enjoy listening to and talking to the most um i have two because i haven't really i haven't sat down with the first one I'm about to tell you, like on a personal, personal note. But Lil Wayne is definitely one of my favorite artists ever. And my dad has collabed with as well.

Pharrell. Pharrell. Pharrell, yeah. I remember being a kid and like his energy just lit up the room and he has such a great spirit, I can feel it. And I remember that feeling till this day. Now, you said Pharrell. Now, this is your dad's pressure. Now, Busta, probably about a month ago, said he's doing an album where Pharrell, Timbaland,

and Swiss Beats are the EPs. How? How does that happen? You know, Busta is somebody that don't back down easy. You can't tell him no. And he signed us up for his project. And we just said, OK, let's do it. He came and he's like, you know, you, Tim, Pharrell, y'all are my producers for the project i'm like okay no the executive producers okay and then i don't know like somehow we actually all got into a space which is a photo of us on this boat and i'm sitting here i'm like yo he really manifested this like we didn't even plan to be on that boat at

that time it's not like okay let's have an executive producer boat ride. We just all ended up sitting there, and I'm looking around like, okay, I hear the universe. Okay, I guess we're doing it. Is it done? Is it almost done? It's done, and it needs to come out now. You know, because Busta will hold on to an album for 30 summers. Forever.

Right? This might be a stupid question. He's named after Nas, right? Yeah. Okay. Is Nas like his godfather Or something I just No my mom's from Queens

His mother loved Nas So you know I was kind of conflicted In a way but You know what I'm saying But then I was like I love Nas too Alright

Alright well salute to Swiss Beats and his son Nasir. And when we come back, we got more with Swiss Beats. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Still kicking it with Swiss Beats and Nasir. Charlamagne?

You know everybody always ask about Versus, man. What's up with Versus? Big things. Big things. You know, I'm happy that me and Tim was able to take the time to understand our company. Because when we launched it, it was during the pandemic, things was happening. Like, we never got no rest. You know, like, we was helping everybody else feel better and have something to go to other than the negative news and energy at that time.

But we didn't take time for ourself. And so things went fast, and we own the company 100% again, which is super fresh, and we got some big announcements coming. I wonder if it's something, I mean, I know it's something artists still want to do, but during the pandemic, it was more pure

because it was just about the music. Now there's so much business and red tape involved. involved yeah and and naturally when something gets big like that that happens but you know um versus and i tell people because i hear people on the shows and when when you bring up verses they're like oh i don't wanna and it's it's not a battle show it's a show where two artists uh celebrating each other with their hits now if you want to make it a battle show it's a show where two artists uh celebrating each other with their hits now if you want to make it a battle i'm not gonna say hey don't talk tough to this guy right you you make it a battle or you can make it a love fest you know like there's been many verses that has been smooth and and loving but with the hip-hop, it's just the ego.

You know how it's competitive. Bro, you put the locks and dip set on stage. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And everybody, I think a lot of people thought dip set was going to take that one away. I know many people thought that the dip set was going to... And then it was Jada. Yeah, you got the right hat on. So what was the biggest versus for you as far as coaching?

Would that be the biggest? Yeah. That and Gucci Mane. Jeezy. Absolutely. Yeah, those two because that's where versus do it. It took two guys that really went to war to the point of no return. And versus gave them an outlet to send a different message out there to the youth today because they're not who they was 15 years ago.

But there's no outlets that can let you as a man, as you know, stand on how you feel and move past from it. And this is why, you know, I could if I stop versus today, I would be fine because we we won already. Like it did what it needed to do, but it needs to do more. Because Versus, people's streams go up 700%. People sell out their tours. It's so, we call it the Versus effect. And the artists get so much from Versus. And so all the artists out there who's listening to this,

please stop trying to charge us more than you ever made on your show you know um show us the love that you show those other outlets that you don't get nothing from it that's right you know and so um that was the thing um that was like the hardest thing was hearing the artists trying to overdo it for no reason i gotta ask because there's there's been a lot of rumors about some verses that were well hopefully will still get done you just say yes or no i don't want to say yes or no did he or jermaine dupri is that gonna happen he just said he don't want to say i know but i'm gonna ask anyway but the reason see because i'm not scared to answer the question by the way but what happens is this clip right here gets played back to me and it's like, yo, I didn't really want to confirm that yet.

And I have to deal with this offline and say, yo, they asked me a question. Y'all went out there and did a promo run and y'all went out there and said y'all wanted to do it. All I did was confirm what y'all said. Yeah, but that was a different time. The Versus documentary has been, we've been

shooting a documentary since the beginning of Versus. So, Lena Waithe is the director. Y'all going to see all of this when I'm telling you. I tape for it. Yeah. You can see Drive premiering on Hulu. Drive with Swiss Beats. Tune all the way in.

All six episodes will be dropping simultaneously so you can binge watch the whole thing. It's a on. Absolutely. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Make some noise for Swizz Beatz and Nasir Dean, y'all. Zah, zah, zah. I've never seen the audience like this. This is amazing. Nah, they do these nice little events from time to time.

It's not little at all. I heard y'all doing some big things today. This is cool. This is Change for Change where we give back to people. And what people did this time is they put a wish list of things that they needed for the holidays. And shout to Amazon, they provided their wish list for a lot of people. Okay. So, like, even today, since you guys are here, I think we should do something special.

Charlemagne, what you think? I'm all for it. Now, for everybody that came here. That's what we're here for. Yeah. Now, for everybody who put in a wish list And came here Put your hands up one time

And then you brought a person with you, right? Right? So for you guys today We're going to give everybody that signed up $1,000 That's right Hold up Where you sign up at?

Yeah, fuck Where do we do that? But not only that, people that you came with, we're going to give $1,000 to. That's right. See? One of y'all didn't want to come. See? One of y'all had to get begged

to come here, and now look. This is the big money show. This is the big money show. So we appreciate you guys for coming. We got a lot of cool stuff for you as well. And just say thank you guys for rocking with us And riding with us And thank you to Amazon man Thank you for Amazon

We really appreciate you guys We couldn't do none of this without Amazon So thank you very much So ladies and gentlemen Naseer, Swiss Beats We are The Breakfast Club Peace Zone Zone

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