The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Tony Yayo, Woody McClain & Lovell Adams-Gray, Elliott Connie and More)

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Today we flash back to our interview with Woody McClain & Lovell Adams-Gray when we talked Defining Roles, Mary J. Blige, Powerbook II Episode Leaks and more.  We also look back at our interview ...with Elliott Connie when he discussed the Solution Focused Brief Therapy, Parental Discipline, Conversation, Honesty and more. Finally, we bring back our discussion with Tony Yayo when he talks about his New Podcast, Hip Hop Rivals, 'Free Yayo' Movement, Stabbing At Sony and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Your show is more important than any other mainstream media outlet. The Breakfast Club. Don't play with it, don't play with it, don't play with it. Come on, bitch, let's play with it. Strike a blink high. You think I'm gonna come here when this shit ain't hot? DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big.
Starting point is 00:00:18 This is one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. But what better place than in here? I think everybody should go on the breakfast club Your time to get it off your chest We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. We can tell you what it is. We live.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Hello, who's this? Yo, this is King. Hey, what's up, brother? Get it off your chest. Hey, I'm just part of the older generation, expecting that the younger generation should retire the same age as us. Because I'm at work, and I see these guys, you know, 60-something years old you know 60 something years old
Starting point is 00:01:05 60 years old working and they old man i'm just like man i can't be that old when i retire well you know what they say well somebody told me back in the day retirement is not an age it's an income i don't even know if i believe that anymore because there's people i know that make mad money but they just love what they do yeah a lot of people love to work and then a lot of people you know honestly don't know how to prepare for the future you also got to think you know this is the generation where we're starting to learn more about financial freedom so a lot of times i you know the generation before us didn't actually know how to retire didn't know how to save so they can retire so some people still have to work that's why when you see sometimes when you when you go into those supermarkets
Starting point is 00:01:45 and you go to those places and you see an older person working, you got to give them patience and help them out because sometimes they're there because they have to and they're just trying to, you know, get by like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. And you know what they say, when you stop moving, you know, you start to die. Yeah. Some people want to keep moving. I guess that's maybe the profession I'm in, right? I'm an electrician.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm in a tree out of Vegas right now. And, I mean, these guys just don't want to retire. They feel like if they retire, they're going to die. Yeah, I mean, that could be it, too. And I'll be honest. I'd rather mess with an older electrician or older mechanic or an older doctor because a lot of times they didn't see everything. They didn't been through it.
Starting point is 00:02:24 You don't feel like that about your president well you don't feel like i feel like there should be an age cap on presidents just like they got turned as you asked me y'all want everything else age you want your cognac age your electrician age but when it comes to your president you don't want no your own president usually a mechanic or electrician like they've been through everything to see what works and what doesn't work and a lot of this new generation they they you know rely on ai or computers to see what's wrong yeah i'd rather them tell me but my president he keep falling your president definitely keeps falling i'll tell you how the president need a caregiver hello who's this what's up
Starting point is 00:03:01 hey what's up bro get off your chest yeah Yo, I was just going to tell you. You wanted to find out about soccer for your son, right? Uh-huh. Why don't you watch Ted Lasso? Ted Lasso? Hilarious. My wife loves Ted Lasso. I mean, you are not sure. Yeah, that'll give you a whole edification on it, man.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You'd be good. I just happened to stumble across it, and it gave me a new love for football, for the real football. Are they serious? My wife watches that show. I don't. What's that show? What's the show about?
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's a comedy. It's a comedy, but at the same time, it tells you more like when you're like a novice about soccer, it gives you more with the pitches, how they have training, how we call it practice. They call it training. We call it cleats. They call it boots. It's just little nuanced things that you pick up on just watching the show. I just happened to stumble across it one night because I was bored.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You know what's funny? I got hooked. It's funny you say that because I'm watching my son. He comes back to the call. He was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, training went good today. And I'm like, training? You had practice. He was like, no, Dad, we trained.
Starting point is 00:03:59 We used to play football. You know what I'm saying? Because my son went to college on a football scholarship. So I'm used to being, you know, football is just a different dynamic. But that, American football, rather. But you get more involved and more invested in them. And like Charlamagne said, yo, they get bread, bro. Hey.
Starting point is 00:04:15 They get bread. They get bread. They get injured a lot, too. They say they have a lot of CTE problems with them headbutting the ball and all that. For real? Mm-hmm. Hello, who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I can hear you now. Good morning, mama. Get it who's this? Good morning. I can hear you now. Good morning, mama. Get it off your chest. Good morning. This is the bus driver. He's bus driver. What's up, bus driver? My bus driver from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:04:31 NB, I want my picture. Huh? NB, I want my picture. Oh, I'm going to post the picture. That's right. Yeah, I ran into you at the airport. We were heading to Aruba, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:04:40 How you doing, man? You being safe out there? This is our bus driver from the Bronx. Yeah, I'm being safe. Just call to say good morning. That's all. You just call to say good morning. All right, you be safe out there.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Good morning to you. I see a bus driver got into an incident with somebody yesterday, so be safe out there. Every day is something different, in the Bronx especially. In the Bronx? The Bronx. Well, be safe out there, my boy. The Bronx is horrible Yeah but then you'd be the same person screaming BX at a show
Starting point is 00:05:08 BX BX BX No I don't I be trying to duck When they say BX I be ducking I be like yes yes But get it off your chest 800-585-1051
Starting point is 00:05:23 If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. The breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Who's this? This is Ashley. Hey, Ashley. Good morning. Where are you calling from? Columbus, Columbus, Ohio. Get it Ashley. Hey, Ashley. Good morning. Where you calling from? Columbus. Columbus.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Okay. Oh, hiya. Get it off your chest, mama. Okay, so I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I also have my business on the side, and I just feel like my husband is just so inconsiderate half the time. Like, he doesn't understand what I really do. You know how you can fix that, Ashley? How? Go away for a day and let everybody
Starting point is 00:06:07 watch them six kids when I go away for a day my kids they call me I'll be like where's your dad they'll be like oh he's in the room
Starting point is 00:06:15 nah you turn off your phone for one day and let him have to deal with feeding them kids washing those kids taking the kids out why are you giving
Starting point is 00:06:22 this bad advice that's dumb if your wife turned off her phone for one day you'd have a fit right but no don't turn off washing those kids, taking the kids out. Why are you giving this bad advice? That's dumb. If your wife turned off her phone for one day, you'd have a fit. Right, but then you'll... No, don't turn off your phone, Ashley. He doesn't appreciate her, so she's saying that she's a stay-at-home mom. And we've been together since high school. He's the only man I've ever been with.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I really give everything and all my time to everybody. Turn the phone off. Do not turn your phone off for your husband. Relax and let him have to take care of the kids. I bet you when you come back, he'll be like, baby, please don't leave. Baby, baby, baby, baby. Don't turn your phone off for your husband, man. Do not listen to Envy because Envy would have a fit if he had turned off the phone for him.
Starting point is 00:06:53 That's true. But I would check my wife. I know how hard it is. Six kids? You still would have a fit if she turned her phone off for a date. Imagine calling your wife. Imagine how many times we call our wife a date and we can't get in touch with her for 24 hours. He don't respect his wife, so he got a lot of respect i agree he do that
Starting point is 00:07:08 but she's speaking for her and you're speaking for you so you respect your wife but that doesn't speak to how she feel about what you're presenting her so he could think he's respecting her and she may not feel it that's real but i voice that too because i do understand that communication is cute and i voice that and he'll be like well I just want this or I just want that and I'll be like okay like in the morning he'll wake me up and be like well I want and I'll be like well I was just up with our
Starting point is 00:07:33 six month old every hour last night like I mean the hell sorry respect is subjective though I was gonna say that too respect is subjective so I gotta know What her definition Of feeling disrespected is
Starting point is 00:07:47 Right She just told me Right You know what I'm saying So you might have Well see that's But I'm specific Like especially
Starting point is 00:07:53 I catered a wedding I had five other orders Besides the wedding This weekend And I was just exhausted Up every hour With the baby You know
Starting point is 00:08:02 And he's off on the weekends But he didn't get up and help me. But then he wanted to try to wake me up and then get an attitude when I'm like, no, get out of my face. Damn. You might just have to wake him up at 3 o'clock in the morning, sit on his face and be like, how's it feel now? You might have to do that. But good luck, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:19 That's not disrespectful, though. Not to me. Man, you know what I'm saying? Man wants a fellatio in the morning. Poor man, poor woman been up with the baby all night i get it but that's not it might be inconsiderate but it ain't disrespectful there we go inconsiderate not disrespectful because it'd be disrespectful to go the other way right go find something that's right so it's like i'm bringing it to you it's real talk hello who's this? Good morning, how are you? Good, good, good. Get it off your chest, mama.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I am really upset at my husband this morning because I had an accident on Friday and when he changed up a car,
Starting point is 00:08:54 he never carried over a rental. So, now I'm having to freaking, like, get up early in the morning and drop my kid off early and we're going to have to struggle all week because of his idiocy. Like, he's just like.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Damn. It feels like everybody's mad at their husband this morning. Jesus. Yeah. Like, how do you twist a person's thing like that? Well, we can't really hear you because you're so upset that you're yelling. But all we can hear is that you're mad at your husband, something about a rental car. He didn't give it back, and now you have to to do it and you want a while out on his ass
Starting point is 00:09:29 Well, you know I got into a car accident on Friday it was my fault because I was rushing But like when he turned over like when we change cars, he never put it like how do you fall from the insurance with momentum Hmm. I don't know. to tell you So now I'm forced To figure out How to get to work Back and forth And we weren't
Starting point is 00:09:48 Opposite ways And opposite schedules Oh so he got He got the rental And you don't have one Do y'all got No no no He never put rental
Starting point is 00:09:58 On when he changed over cars Never put rental When he changed over cars I don't know what that means I I I You know when you get Into an accident And you have rental insurance?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yes. Oh, got you. So you never put rental insurance on the car. So you got to pay for the car now. Got you. Got you. So you're upset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And it's like, we got to pay for summer camp. Like, they didn't cheat. Well, you shouldn't have gotten into an accident. We won't figure it out. No, you shouldn't have gotten into an accident, ma'am. It was your fault. You said that. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Okay, yeah, it was my fault. But however, this is why we have insurance. This is why we put options on there. What if somebody would have hit me? It sounds like both of y'all blaming each other for things that are out of y'all control. And that's whack. I mean, you should have put insurance on your car. But people do that because they be like, I'm never going to get in an accident.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Why do I have to pay this extra for insurance? Same way you shouldn't have got into an accident. He probably should have had insurance. But there's no need for y'all to be pointing the finger at each other. I understand that. But, like, now our kids have to be at best six a year to go drop meals at work. That's not fair. You got to figure it out, though.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's life. You know what I'm saying? You got to figure out how to pivot in life. So y'all arguing now? Me and you. Y'all should go in the bedroom right now and give him some fellatio. Just make up. Jesus Christ. But it's been a month now. We good. All right. Y'all arguing now? Me and you. Y'all, you should go in the bedroom right now and give him some fellatio. Just make up.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Jesus Christ. But it's been a month now. We good. Oh, all right. Have a good one, mama. Fellatio don't fix everything, guys. Just most of the things. Yeah, it fix a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It fix a lot. Help us to sleep. Right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:26 The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The talk in New York. That's right. Tony Ayo.
Starting point is 00:11:42 G, you not have to bring it back, right? What up, man? Have to bring it back. How you feeling, brother? I'm feeling good, man. Running around. I'm on y'all's show. I feel like you got a second win, yo.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Like, it's been a second win, third win? Yeah. I mean, you know, I see the way 50 work. And I'm like, yo, he always be like, yo, y'all are lazy, y'all are lazy. And I'm just realizing, like, I thought I was working when I wasn't. So during the COVID, it was just like a tough time. Like, I'm sitting back, wasn't no chores. I'm like, yo, I got to figure working when I wasn't. So during the COVID, it was just like a tough time. Like, I'm sitting back, wasn't no tours. I'm like, yo, I got to figure out other things to do.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So I started doing the music, and then I started, you know, messing with Vlad. Vlad TV. Vlad TV. And I just started realizing when you put your presence out there to all these younger generation, the new kids that really don't know us, they know G-Unit. Some people do remember, like, when I go on tour, it'd be like, yo, my father used to play or my mom's used to play g so it passed down to that generation so i'm going to my own tours and you know i'm just making myself valuable man putting that work in if it did that did that upset you when you heard 50 say y'all was lazy no not even that motivates me because at a point
Starting point is 00:12:39 sometimes you do get lazy our careers we was kind of spoiled think about it we had 50 where he was doing everything for us so as for like when we was coming of spoiled think about it we had 50 where he was doing everything for us so as for like when we was coming out you had the young guns for instance i remember her vein saying jay is not gonna do what 50 does for young guns he was saying it in front of their face y'all got 50 like 50 was you know help us be in the videos right second bake for that when he dropped when he sold 11 million records he dropped beg for mercy yeah you know i'm? I was in jail. Him and Eminem would shout me out.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So I always showed my love to them. I know how 50 is. Y'all the same sound. Y'all are crazy. It's all good. But it just motivates me to work because I see how he work. We'll be on tour. We'll leave tour to go on movie set.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Go back. Go to the gym twice a day. I'm tired. I mean, the Free free ale movement was a movement within itself like i don't think we talk about about that enough i don't know why randomly i was thinking the other day about when they shouted you out of the i think it was the grand it was eminem that's why i always shout out eminem you know i'm saying because he didn't have to do that i was on rikers island c73 too low now this move right here this this your hand in front of the
Starting point is 00:13:43 face where did that move come from? Because, you know, of course, we've known you doing that for years. Where did that come from? That really came because I was on the run. Like, I was at that point when we was in the club, I was running. Like, 50 was like, yo, he said to me, you know, we had this judge, Judge Wong in Queens, everybody know him, no joke. And he was like, yo, what are you going to do? You going to go to court or go on tour?
Starting point is 00:14:03 And we blowing up now. Mixtapes are crazy. Boob Lakers playing us everywhere. I'm like, yo, what are you going to do? You going to go to court or go on tour? And we blowing up now. Mixtapes are crazy. Boob Lakers playing us everywhere. I'm like, yo, I'm running. So I ran. So how did John Cena just, I guess, jack it? John Cena. I don't know if he gives you credit, but he does.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, John Cena said his little brother, I believe, did it. And his little brother did him to do it. And I guess he did it in a match, and it just got crazy. When you seen Reese do it, what did you think? She made it. She took it to a whole other level. She brought it back. Had me trending for Shelton.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Shelton and Jareesh. Yeah, me trending for the whole week. And then Caitlyn did it before her. Right? Yeah. So it was just like, I mean, with that situation, it was crazy. Because like you said, a black girl did it, and it was a problem. White girl did it beforehand.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, it was a problem. So I addressed that. You know what I mean problem so i addressed that you know i mean i talked about that too that's crazy because i thought that on tmz when we playing ball in the hood you know it's competitive whatever you do when you do your car shows you in competition that's right i see you go at people here all day y'all got the best car shows in the world none of y'all can mess with me i don't know how you getting all these cars you said it not me but go ahead you know so i told 50 he might as well just leave all his cars with you bro you know fifth calls me and he'd be like let me get the car and i'll give him back his car you know i usually have his lambo or his rose royce and he drive it for one day and then it sits and then he loses the key and then i gotta go get it
Starting point is 00:15:17 again you don't even drive him he don't let me ball him i'm playing around bro i want to go back right i know yeah you're a long time where do you think in your career happened where you didn't go to that next level, right? And I asked 50 that, and he said he thinks it was the picking of the wrong single. What do you think it was? Interesting. I think it was just a lot of drama with Interscope when I came home. You know what I mean? You had 50.
Starting point is 00:15:39 He was Curtis. I'm Curtis Interscope Jackson. And Jimmy Iovine, know you had game flipping and like it was just confusing to me because I was on game album and then you know the game thing happened and it was like yo he's on the same label as us so why are they not just getting rid of him you know 50 so more records than the mo whatever it's like it was like a it was like a war in our own house because you had record you had the so seductive. That's what I'm saying. What was the wrong thing? Yes, I had So Seductive. I know you don't love me.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I had I Know You Don't Love Me and Pimpin', right? But you got to remember, I came in the midst of the 50 Cent Interscope drama. He was saying, f*** Jimmy Iovine. Yeah, I'm my own boss. You know how 50 get. So I think sometimes, and at that point, we had so many enemies, it was like we wasn't getting a feature or nothing. We came to a point where we never used anybody.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Like, it was just me, Banks, and 50. You know, 50 never looked to do features with nobody. So, you know how it is. It felt like everybody was against us at that point. Because nobody really messed with 50 in the industry like that or messed with us. Let's be serious. What was the craziest story that you was like, we might not make it out of here? I wouldn't say we were scared. But I could say it was the Vibe Awards when we seen Suge Knight and Irv Gotti and they walked past the trailer.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It is what it is. We in New York, but we in L.A. You know what I'm saying? We New York dudes. We in L.A. You know what I'm saying? So you see Suge Knight. You always heard about this guy, you know, TV, magazines.
Starting point is 00:17:02 But, you know, I never had. In the club was the first run in but this was the second so he walks past the trailer with irv and um 50 just look at um james cruz james cruz you know shout to him he was a little james cruz is always in a situation industry guy he got to run around with 50 bulletproof vests you know how chris lighty was in the trenches it's crazy so he just taps james cruz and say yo go buy 20 knives go buy 20 knives yeah just go to the hardware store i'm like because what are we going to do just seem you know it might get crazy it was about 20 to 15 or something like that so james cruz goes to the hardware store buy 20 knives
Starting point is 00:17:37 he gives the bags 50 handing them out and then you know when we got there we had beef with fat joe at that point i remember we dr dre's there so you know that's obviously had beef with Fat Joe at that point. I remember. We Dr. Dre's there. So, you know, that's obviously a beef with Suge Knight. Suge Knight got like some crazy looking Compton looking dudes with him. You know what I'm saying? So it just, you felt the energy to where we had our cheers like this. You're not even watching the show. We're not even watching the show. We had it like this.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You felt the energy. Like you felt someone was going to go down. And that's when, you know, we wasn't taking pictures back then. So I guess he asked Dre for the autograph. Pops on Dre. Dre falls. But he already might have to get up, start popping on him, and it just got crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Knives started coming from everywhere, and that's when, you know, one of the dudes got stabbed. So my question is, if there was 20 knives, how come only Young Buck didn't stab him? Nah, that dude got stabbed in the chest. Young Buck stabbed him with a fork. I don't know where that came from. He said, how did he stab him with a fork?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Where'd he get that fork from? I don't know where you... It just came with the fork. So nobody gave Buck a knife? Nah, but, no. I don't know where that came from i don't know where you just came with the fork nobody gave buck a knife nah but no i don't know that's why i was tripping i know i had one anybody else did you know what i'm saying but but matter of fact him and banks was backstage they was about to perform and he just came with the fork as soon as they started talking that time when they started to we went back to the mansion after that happened because the kid got
Starting point is 00:18:46 stabbed in the chest he collapsed and everything the fork wasn't nothing and we got back to the mansion and it was on the news it was like attempted murder
Starting point is 00:18:53 Young Buck Young Buck was like I ain't do that man I ain't do that man so it all switched up with that time that's why I be
Starting point is 00:19:02 staring out of trouble Young Buck was like I ain't do that man because your buck hit him with the fork he ain't stab him in the chest he kind of ran with the story though didn't but i mean you know come on man no rappers man yeah the story all right we got more with tony ayo when we come back the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club our co-host b scott is here and we're still kicking it with tony yayo
Starting point is 00:19:32 charlamagne what about that stabbing when you talk you mentioned it briefly though oh and and sony yeah was it a real stabbing it was a real it was a real stabbing i'm gonna tell you what happened man we was in the studio and and that was Sony, right? Sony Studios, yeah. Sony, remember they had the one across the street? Mm-hmm. And they had the big building. The big building is where everybody would say Michael Jackson would take all the rooms.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Right. Right. So we walking in, and at that time, I think we seen Wyclef, and I think Scooter was there. Mm-hmm. Was Haitian Jack there? Haitian Jack, we see them in the lobby. Mm-hmm. It's just me and 50.
Starting point is 00:20:05 A lot of sockpots. Yeah, you know back then. A lot of sockpots. Yeah, they was all in the lobby with Clef. We seen Clef. And I think Proswell was there too or whatever. So, you know, we go upstairs, but we're not worried about it. Fifth, I swear to God, Fifth got it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I don't got nothing on me. Fifth got a four-fifth. No safety on him. We go upstairs. We got a session. So, Clark Kent, his nephew, ended up being a DJ. Giz. But Giz was not really a street dude. a four-fifth no safety on them we're chilling we go upstairs we got a session so clark kent his nephew ended up being a dj giz but giz was not really a street dude he was just a cool dude you know shout out to clark kent he was just like yo here 50 i got a dj for you right
Starting point is 00:20:35 so we go in the studio we're supposed to record now the studio is small it's a small room and it's a small hallway so So in the next room is Tone and Poke. They working on beats and me, 50 and Giz is in the room with the engineer. Forgot what 50 was working on. I guess I'm going to keep it real. And this is before Indisco. This is when 50 was signed to Sony. I think in my mind
Starting point is 00:20:58 I think Priswell said something. I don't know why. Why do you think Priswell said something? I think he said something. I'm going to keep it real. I don't think it was Pr, he must, you know what I'm saying? Why do you think Pryze is a... I think he said something. I'm going to keep it real. I don't think it was Pryze. Why Pryze? All the people you just named.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Trust me. That was the information that was, you know what I mean? That Pryze well said something to Ja Rule and them. So, we in the room. You just hear a boop, boop, boop, commotion. These dudes come in like it's a movie. Like, yo, what's up now? But they ain't got...
Starting point is 00:21:22 It's no guns or nothing. It's nothing really. All you see is crutches and, like like stuff picked up from the studio and i guess one of them had like a kitchen night so it was uh was earth it knows earth brother i think it was black child at that point ja i think somebody else but so we started to get it on nobody turned off the light while we're getting it on the light like turned off because you know how somebody bumped into the switch so we fighting everything is dark you don't know what's going on you just hit melee so all you heard was get the gun you know bluffed him because the gun was in the other room that's why i said ja ruin him he wouldn't even be here he would have been gone
Starting point is 00:21:58 like it our careers would have been totally different if that gun was in that room and i swear on my dead father like i'm telling you the truth the gun was in the other room i've seen it i'm saying with my own two eyes they come in we get it on boom boom boom get the gun they run out 50 will speak at one of them i don't know if it was earth brother or whoever i see him don't speak and say get the gun once they hurry get the gun everybody started running out but the gun was in the other room and that was it 50 had a scratch on his back, right? And I got stabbed in my hands. And my finger was, like, cut right here.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So it looked crazy because it was hanging a little bit. But look, this is all I got. That and that. That was it. You ever think about how blessed y'all are? Because think about all the violence y'all escaped. Because I ain't never even heard about the shooting that happened before the young man got slapped, right? Nah, but it's cool.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Was it after that in your motherhouse? Yeah, yeah. yeah it's cool but i always looked at it like this bro if i slapped your kid or your kid what are you gonna you're gonna you you got the right it's all gloves off and it's all good but then y'all g unit officers got shot up before yes y'all missed a lot of bullets is what i'm saying yeah that's a blessing mama crib like it was a lot of bullets you know it's crazy and i always thank god, I always say my prayers before I leave the house. Because I remember one day, I had a plaque. And people won't even believe this story. And a bullet fell out of it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And my father found it. He was staying with me at the time. The next day, my mom's crib got shot up. Or it could have been the same day. Like, but my mom's crib got shot up. So, I mean, you know, God is good, bro. A bullet like a plaque? A bullet.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Like, I had a 50-cent plaque. Where, where, where? And it got bullets in it and it's above my door and my father found it he's like yo somebody shot the house up i'm like nah that fell off the plaque and the next day like my mom's crib got shot up so you get signs you know to be low and you got to move right because one thing about us is we knew how to move like all right cool if it's hot cool i'm good like when my mom's crib got shot up i went out there and was looking to do stuff and 50 called me like yo bro you're outside you got something on you you're
Starting point is 00:23:50 bugging out bro use your brain bro it's chess not checkers that's why i say you know it must have been like seven eight years ago to see you and 50 enjoying what y'all didn't have before right i mean because they couldn't go to the clubs and experience the records like y'all should have. Y'all couldn't go to these events and go to these things. And it wasn't because of the rappers. It was mainly because of the hip hop police because there was times
Starting point is 00:24:11 where there'd be like no G-Unit, no Dipset in the clubs. All the clubs in Manhattan. So hip hop police, you remember Curly Top. He's retired now. Hip hop police,
Starting point is 00:24:20 they all retired. There's all new ones now for the dudes that'll follow TJ and all these dudes in the city and all the young dudes now but all them dudes are retired
Starting point is 00:24:29 but them dudes used to tell us yo you can't come in this car you know how much money we missed out on definitely good to see that man yeah yo
Starting point is 00:24:36 and congrats though on the welcome to the culture podcast thank you man welcome to the culture podcast I seen you screaming on Matt Hoffa what happened with that
Starting point is 00:24:43 nah Hoffa and him is good I just feel like sometimes like when you online, it just felt like clickbait. You asking me, can I pick up the phone for banks if 50's around? They both my friends. I'm a grown ass man. What are you talking about? Does Yeo want to do music? Yeah, I just dropped a mixtape, Loyal.
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Starting point is 00:25:43 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, a young lady named Lima called this morning. She wanted to know, I don't know who she's dealing with, but she wanted to know if you're a liar or cheater, are you born like that? Or is it learned behavior? Charlamagne? I don't think you're born a liar. I think that, you know, kids lie and you see that. We all got young kids, you know what I'm saying? Kids lie simply because they don't want you're born a liar. I think that, you know, kids lie. And you see that. We all got young kids. You know what I'm saying? Kids lie simply because they don't want to get in trouble. So I think that's a form of self-preservation.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I think when it comes to infidelity and cheating, that is absolutely positively learned behavior. A hundred percent. Hello, who's this? Vanessa. Hey, Vanessa. Talk to us, Vanessa. Well, I want to say good morning and thank you so much for having us up in the morning. We all love listening to you.
Starting point is 00:26:28 We appreciate it. Vanessa, your phone is crazy. You got us on Bluetooth for speaker? No, I do not. I have a headset. Okay. Can you take us off that headset? Yeah, we can barely hear you.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Can you take us off that headset right fast? I'm sorry. And thank you, Vanessa, too. We appreciate you listening and appreciating us. All right. Good morning, y'all. Can y'all hear me way better yep okay so my thoughts i think it's a genetic behavioral trait i think that when you grow up in a household and somebody in that family goes along with that behavior of cheating and then lying i think it passes down to their kids. With that being said, I did grow up in a household
Starting point is 00:27:07 where my father cheated on my mother, and he brought me along to every female date that he had because they had children. No! And then we somehow stayed there a night. Damn. No, so how you grew up,
Starting point is 00:27:20 you had a bunch of stepmommies? Yes. Are you still... I have an older half-sister that I know nothing about. She's in another country. Keep in mind, my dad is Hispanic. That's why I don't go along with any Hispanics. They just all cheat around.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Damn it, man. So you don't date Hispanic men? I do not. That's right. You date black men because black men don't cheat. Exactly. That's right. That are Caucasian.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They're more honest honestly jesus that's so i just think that this has been said but saying that my father he taught my brother that that's the game of life you cannot just have one stitch you need to have the mob do not be stingy everybody needs a love my daddy told me that when i was young too my daddy literally looked looked at me and said Oh you only got one girlfriend Now as I got older and we got older He said I was absolutely right to have one woman
Starting point is 00:28:11 But you know when I was young he definitely messed me up Hello who's this? This is Brian how you doing? Brian what's going on? So I think that it's the parents fault And here's why We inadvertently teach our kids to lie When they're young and they hear us talking to our significant other.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And let's just hypothetically say someone knocks at the door and you see who it is. You say, tell them I'm not here. The kids pick up on that kind of thing. We're lying right there. You right. You right. Because I remember Jehovah's Witnesses would come knocking on the doors. My parents would be like, tell me that home. Relive, right spirit. You right. You right, because I remember Jehovah's Witnesses would come knocking on the doors.
Starting point is 00:28:47 My parents would be like, tell me that home. Yeah, you right. Well, guess what? I was a Jehovah's Witness, okay? I was the person going out on the field service every Saturday with my mom and my sister
Starting point is 00:28:58 and knocking on those doors, okay? So F all y'all dishonest people, okay? I hope y'all don't make it into heaven. Nah, you right. I hope y'all don't make it into heaven now you're right because y'all don't become one in 144 because even when because even when people call like your mom and daddy be like all right tell them i'm sleeping yeah so you right exactly exactly damn that's a good point brother thank you brian that is a fantastic now that's a perfect point because we all do that we all do that to our kids or our kids to hear us.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But who calling? Oh, don't answer the phone. We do it all the time. That's why I tell my kids when the doorbell ring or somebody knocks, don't go to it. You go get an adult. All right? So when you go get that adult, that adult can make the executive decision. That's when you tell the adult, hey, tell them people aren't here.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Right, but that's a lie. And that's what they learn. But I'm telling that to the adult not the kids but the kids hear it no they don't that's we got a whisper you don't you don't gotta you know how to use the inside voice use your inside voice or somebody come ask you for money you say i ain't got it your kids know you got it that's a lie no no no no no i tell my kids that no is perfectly okay to say all right trust me my oldest daughter hears those conversations when people call me she hears those and i tell her straight up like, like, you can't just do for everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You know? But what's the moral of the story? I don't know. We heard a bunch of them just now. I didn't lie just now. I don't know. We heard a bunch of them. I personally think that all of this stuff is learned behavior.
Starting point is 00:30:21 You know? Because when you're young and you lie, as a child, it's just self-preservation. I don't think you're necessarily... I don't think you have the intention of, I'm lying. You're just trying to save yourself and protect yourself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest host with us. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Erica Dutchess. She's here. She's joining us. And we got some special guests in the building. The Tajadas. I don't think you say the J. How do you pronounce it? The Tajadas, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:30:59 The Tajadas. The Tajadas. I used to struggle with it, too. Yes. I don't know. But we got the homie Woody McClain here. He's been here before. And Lavelle Adams. Great welcome. Yes, indeedadas. I used to struggle with it, too. Yes. I don't know. But we got the homie Woody McClain here. He's been here before. And Lavelle Adams.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Great welcome. Yes, indeed. Did I say that right? Absolutely. Okay. Kane and Drew from Power Book 2. Man, y'all, it's funny, right? Because y'all got to be some of the most famous people in black culture at the moment.
Starting point is 00:31:17 You don't think so? It's been love, man. Yeah. It's been love. People come up to you, smack you in the airport. Like, it's crazy. It's crazy. They smack you.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I know. And where? It was in the airport. Like, it's crazy. It's crazy. She didn't smack you. I know. And where? It was in the airport. Lady had a baby. White lady. She was like, I love what you're doing on the shoot. I'm like, appreciate it. But it just caught me off guard.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But yeah, it's been love. It's been a lot of love. Yeah. I got that in there. I didn't get smacked. But the dude stopped me. He was like, bro, I know you, right? Like, you've been to Houston.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I'm like, listen, I've never been to Houston in my life life so i know i've never met you before yeah you know and like it was it was definitely from the show but you know it was it was funny it was like based off the character you play where did he smack you just just tell us it was it was on my arm okay just making sure season three yeah actually yeah yes yeah yeah yes uh it's been a nut season so the last two episodes are gonna to be crazy. And I have not watched them even though they leaked. Appreciate that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:08 How can y'all top what y'all have done? I think, you know, the writers have, you know, only gotten better. Brett, you know, really cares about the show, the showrunner. And he really takes care of us and is invested on making it new and exciting and truthful. And I think, you know, you keep it truthful and you know it tops itself i think and a whole lot of drama you know twitter loves drama so i think they've been doing a great job with it and you've been in love the whole damn season i know man how'd that go from being a gangster you're still a gangster but you're in love now on the show being in love is kind of
Starting point is 00:32:39 boring to me why is it boring i'm like man i'm ready to catch a body it's crazy that's horrible right it's a horrible way to think but that show has definitely altered my mind to think like that it's weird it's like man another scene but uh i'm like man when do i pop somebody well i was gonna ask how does that change your character because now you're into this scene right you want to pop somebody so now when you go out and somebody says something you think like are you still in character like what you say are you still like that or do you get out of character? Nah, I get out of character. I get out of character.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But it depends. If I'm with my family, I'm still in it a little bit because, you know, people don't really respect... Boundaries. Nah, and because we're on TV, we're no longer human.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You know what I mean? I just feel like everybody treats us like an item. So it's like, I'm always like, just thinking about those things and making sure my family is straight while I'm outside. But it's always's always been love though and it has to be different right
Starting point is 00:33:27 because because of the characters that you played you have like very different demographics like you have the young people that might follow this but then you have the older people that love you in this so how does that work nice for me i know like i've been to like the hood is or the hoods and people like yo that's you me up there like i appreciate that I'm like oh thank you so I always call the police on all the demographics love you any younger demographic love you know the new edition aunties and grandmas that know him from New Edition that show a different type of love
Starting point is 00:34:06 but then you got homies from the corner that look at him differently. That's interesting. Because I thought that there was a young demo that
Starting point is 00:34:13 watched the Bobby Brown story in New Edition too. I feel like that introduced them to a new audience. No, absolutely. For sure, I agree.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That's true. I agree. Because my kids loved it. Yeah, the kids call me Bobby Brown. They're like, are you Bobby?
Starting point is 00:34:24 I'm like, bro, I'm not. And do you get tired of that? Yeah, the kids call me Bobby Brown. They're like, are you Bobby? I'm like, bro, I'm not. And do you get tired of that? Yeah, a little bit. I feel like Kane trumped Bobby, though. No. Yes, man. Right now in the culture?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Oh, no, bro. When I first seen him in the hall, the first thing I thought was Bobby. I was like, that's what I thought. I don't know, man. But, I mean, no. I mean, I was just watching the fight. And it was this white guy. He was like, yo, I mean, I was just watching the fight and it was this white guy. He was like, yo, Kane, in the Uzi songs.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But he was like. But I'm like, that's crazy. That sounded like a little flirt right there. I don't know, it was weird. But it's New York, so nobody really tripped on it. It was crazy. Everybody was just having fun. I'm like, losing Atlanta would have been a little different.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Power one of them shows that the culture really gets involved in. Absolutely. When it's on, everybody tweeting about it. It's like a family gathering. And then people talking about what happened that night on social media afterwards. People care about y'all personal lives. That's rare. Everybody don't get that.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I think it's an important thing to separate the character from the from the from the actor you know like we watch like daniel day lewis we don't think like he's you know built a butcher and you know um what's his name daniel daniel plainview you know we just look at him like that's a that's a really dope artist right i think like you playing bobby brown you playing kane like that's a testament to your artistry. I appreciate that, bro. Same to you, man. But, you know, you do a fantastic job playing Drew. And the crazy part is everybody's like, oh, is he really, you know, really gay? And I'm like, does it matter?
Starting point is 00:35:57 You know what I'm saying? Like, would it matter if Lavelle was? Like, what does it matter? I don't think it does matter. You know, I think, you know, like, it's important to separate those things, you know? Important to separate the personal from the work because I have to be able to play everything as an artist. That's our job is to tell the story and tell it as truthfully as possible, you know? Like, if I was playing, you know, your life story, right, and you watched it and go, you're not telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm doing you a disservice. Yeah, but you're not gay enough if you explain to me. Other people say, no, no. This is a little more. This is a little more. I was going to ask you, when you seen the script, was there any doubts like,
Starting point is 00:36:40 well, maybe I don't want to play that? Or it was like, no, I'm an actor. This is what I'm going to do regardless of what people think. That's what it was, man. I'm an actor. And I have to tell the truth of what people that's what it was man I'm an actor you know and I have to tell the truth and if I'm not telling the truth as an artist then get me out the show you know what I mean like if I'm not going if I'm not committing 100 then I don't deserve the part and that's just how
Starting point is 00:36:57 I see it like you know what regardless whatever part it is whatever role it is it's like if you're putting in the work investigating in yourself and trying to tell the truth, then you deserve to be on that platform and tell that story. It's an interesting social experiment, though. Whenever there's a lovemaking scene between a man and a woman, nobody cares. But when you see it pop up on Power or one of those other shows, everybody's up in arms like, ah, man, I can't watch this, man. I'm going to tell stars if they don't stop doing this, I'm not going to watch.
Starting point is 00:37:24 But I'm like, people will be like, why? Why did nobody ever ask that when it's men and women, you know? You know, I think, you know, if we're talking about the first power, Omari Harwick and Lila look really good together, though. You know, like, there's back muscles and everything like that. So I understand, like, you know the the aesthetic is what we're used to and we're not used to seeing queer lovemaking on especially on a mainstream show like this and um but it's real life and it happens real life and it happens
Starting point is 00:37:55 and I think my biggest thing was like I haven't gotten the back yet like my heart was back I haven't gotten that like physical physical like strength because I just turned 31, so I'm like, I still got to get my man meet on. But I'm screwed. Not like that. Not like that. You're practicing Charlemagne's role right there.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That's the character he is. He flicks on auditions. I'm talking about... You got the role. You need your man body. You got your man body You need your man body You got your man body My man body You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:38:26 And like And so like That's Whenever I have those scenes I'm like I want to make sure I look as good as possible You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:38:33 I want to look good And that's You know The same thing with Kane Like you want to make sure He looks good Amari set the bar so high He set the bar
Starting point is 00:38:40 I remember reading a tweet Somebody was like Kane looks like a college dropout Kid that just played Call of Duty. I was like, damn, I need to get in the gym. You need to get in the gym? Oh, for sure. That's all I think.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I hear that in my ears while I'm like, you know what I mean? When I'm like running out of energy, I just hear him saying like college dropout body. And I'm in the gym. I'm going crazy. All right. When we come back, we got more with the Tejada brothers from Power. You know Woody McLean and Lavelle. So don't move.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Everybody, it's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Tihata Brothers from Power. You know Woody McLean and Lavelle Adams Gray. Charlamagne? Does social media bother y'all?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like, when y'all read comments, does it impact how y'all approach the roles and everything? For me, personally, nah, because I come from social media, and I just used to say s***. That didn't even really matter. I just said it to get like a reaction assumption you know you have people looking for your damn old tweets you're right but that's where I was that though like that's the space I was in I just wanted to get a reaction that's what Twitter was for is like to see how many retweets and how many I get you know I mean so I now I look at it it's like that's just somebody just trying to get attention yeah but it don't bother
Starting point is 00:39:43 me don't know you gotta be careful Come from theater I come from theater a little bit in and We learned really quickly not to like you can't read everything every night, you know, cuz it affects your work so I come from that like where it comes like You know, I'm not reading everything all the time time like i kind of just post or whatever and just go about my business all right yeah and we had amari up here uh last year maybe two years ago and i and i asked him charlamagne and i asked him about the character was he ever fearful that he was going to be stuck in that character right and you know he was a little upset about it because he said he's an actor but sometimes people see amari as ghosts you know sometimes they see you
Starting point is 00:40:24 as bobby do you ever fearful of what roles you take to be stuck in that character no god will provide there it is i agree you know i mean yes yeah like it's it's it's a scarcity mindset to think that way i think and but it happens to people like you look at steve urkel he's always steve urkel you look at the guy that plays i can't remember the brother's name he played uh chris rock and everybody hates chris he's always looked as that, you know? I don't know about that. But he just won a Golden Globe or an Emmy.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He was on that. But people see him as that, you know? But I still see him as that little boy. Isn't that a blessing, though? To play a role that's so iconic? Why, it is. You know what I mean? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You know, it stands the test of time. And, you know, we leave that legacy for sure. I think it does, you know, but actors want to be transcended right and be able to disappear in the roles and i think a part of that is the onus on the actor to like switch it up a little bit and try something different um and never let themselves get pin and hold in the one thing but i think being scared of that brings it on too you know i mean do you ever feel a way you know because you are a theater actor actor so you've been through the course you've been through the classes and then you see somebody that might be uh you know a social media person that gets a role because they're social media does that ever
Starting point is 00:41:33 make you feel a way like they didn't get their chops where they didn't do the the proper training that you've been through does that ever make you feel away if i'm being honest absolutely whenever i get whenever that comes up for me and i get tight like that i'm like well that's just my ego like that's me you know that's me because i didn't get that part i didn't you know what i mean but like what's for you is meant to be for you right you know so i remind myself of that and and then you know it goes away but like and it's it's like acting is always going to change mediums and always going to evolve and that's the point if you don't evolve with it then you're going to get left behind.
Starting point is 00:42:06 What about you, Woody? I come from social media, so I salute anybody that comes from social media. You know, I like it. Just take it serious. Was that the question? No, I was saying. Oh, shit. Damn, though.
Starting point is 00:42:18 What do you love, Woody? What do you love? That's a good question. I salute everybody on social media, too. But now, I was asking, does it ever make you feel a way where it feels like people, you know, they always say people skip the line, right? So that they didn't, you know, take the acting classes and the acting lessons. That's what I'm saying. I come from the people that didn't take acting classes that, you know what I mean, straight from social media.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Like, so I don't, I don't take it no way. Nah, I just took it serious. You kind of skipped the line? I did skip the line, but then I took it very, very seriously. Yeah, that's what I like. Because a lot of people don't do that. They just ride the wave. Yeah, they just skipped the line. I did skip the line, but then I took it very, very seriously. Yeah, that's what I like. Because a lot of people don't do that. They just ride the wave. Yeah, they just ride the wave.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Like the comedians. Like they can't do the stage. They can do the social media stuff all day. Right. Post the, but when it comes to that stage, it's totally different. And they don't want to get in their room, you know, go to the open mics and stuff. They don't want to do that. They too good for that. But you horrible.
Starting point is 00:43:09 When it comes to the stage. You got somebody personal in there. A couple people is out there. Now, I'm a stand-up comedian. So I just see the new wave. And it is the new wave. But with somebody
Starting point is 00:43:24 like me who been doing it for so long you start seeing stuff at first I was acting like Samuel Jackson at first
Starting point is 00:43:30 you know what I'm saying how he was with the people taking the act and the gig I was like hold on now that ain't even
Starting point is 00:43:34 but I had to sit back and get in your mode and be like hold on what God got for me is for me they path ain't my path
Starting point is 00:43:41 you know what I'm saying so this is my journey so I gotta stay on my own journey to be blessed and know what I'm saying? So this is my journey. That's real. So I got to stay on my own journey and understand why I'm in my position and be patient. And that's why
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'm here today. Exactly. Now, Woody, is Kane and Tyreek going to end up killing each other over Effie, man? That's going to mess
Starting point is 00:43:57 up the business in some way, shape, or form. I don't even know if I can talk about that. I don't know, though. I can see it happening. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I can see it happening. Okay. I can see it happening. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good suggestion. Yeah. Yeah. I can't talk on that. He said, look, you want me to say I can't say that to him?
Starting point is 00:44:13 I don't want to get in trouble. Right. Well, let me ask you, Lavelle. Why is Drew not allowed to have love? It seems like you lose every guy that you start feeling. I think it's because it's the reality of the you know the game we're in right and i feel like you know with gordo he found somebody that he felt like he could you know who could he could see all of him and recognize all of him at the same time it's like it started off of lies right
Starting point is 00:44:37 like i killed his pops but we killed his pops so it's like i if i can't tell you that truth then we're already our foundation is shaky anyway you You know, so I think, you know, God willing, going forward, Drew will find some love, somebody that, you know, can resonate with him in that way. They just have to hide himself from. But until then, it's be a bunch of bread, man. It is. How's it going with Mary? Beautiful, man. Mary's so cool. She's so chill. We have so many moments and memories with Mary. And I think my favorite one is, you know, first day, table read. You know, it's funny. They don't tell actors this a lot. It's always like, you know, like, well, you just get in the space and like, yeah, you know, I belong there.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And I already been there. So, you know, I got to act like it or whatever. You know, back tension, shoulder tension comes up, you know what I mean? When I got to the table read, I was like, I've never been here before, and I've never been face-to-face with Mary J. Blige before. And you know what she did? She broke the ice with a funny-ass story. You know, she brought us
Starting point is 00:45:37 in as her kids off-rip, and that to me taught me, God willing, I get to that place where I can, people look at me in that way, that I can like oh no I was chill like you know what I mean cuz that really helped me out how did she bring y'all in what was the joke that brought y'all in you said because she said she bought you in as her kids well she told us like it was a story I told her that like my dad's from Jamaica right and she was like oh I'm never going to Jamaica again like I'm never
Starting point is 00:45:58 bringing nobody to Jamaica cuz like it's drama and it's just the way that she would just relate it to us yeah you would think that like i guess the perspective of someone of that high stature is that like you have to go to them but i felt like she came down she came to us and gave us a story that was like we all had us laughing and it was like well thanks for sharing that you know with us and and really brought us in and so it just just made it so easy you know yeah you know we get to do these scenes and she's so generous as an art as a scene partner and we get to like really go and play with it she has so many fun ideas and just really cares about monet and and says like listen man monet is is from here so she's not gonna do it like that she's gonna do it like this and like she'd be my
Starting point is 00:46:39 producer yeah yeah yeah for sure the um when we did the dinner table, that super iconic dinner table scene, it was her idea to be like, listen, we got to get it elevated. She said, we have to elevate this thing because she's not going to have her daughter talk to her in no type of way and not snatch her across the table and have it be this big moment. That's real. And it came alive because of that. I learned so much as an actor because of that. So what's going to happen when y'all got to hate her?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Because eventually y'all going to find out that she's the one who set Lorenzo up. I mean. You know what I mean? Y'all going to hate her then, right? Comes out this weekend. We're going to see. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That's this week, Friday. Yeah. We're going to find out all that stuff. But yeah. Are y'all happy Lorenzo's dead? Y'all going to say papi no more? Didn't feel odd? I don't even think I ever said papi like that.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I never knew how to say it for real. It didn't roll off my tongue like that, so I kind of eliminated the poppies out of my vocabulary. You just said it now. Did it roll off right? Yes, it did. You said poppy. You said it real. I think, you know, and shout out to Berto Colon
Starting point is 00:47:40 who plays Lorenzo. Amazing. I miss him sometimes, you know. He's a master class too you know and i and i love him being there he just holds it down he's such a grounding energy so as lavelle i'm like damn you know he's gone but um as drew i think drew's also like damn he's gone yeah yeah i agree all right when we come back we got more with the tahada brothers from power you know woody mclean Lavelle. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Good morning. DJ and the Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Tejada brothers from Power. Woody McLean and Lavelle Adams Gray. Now, we taped this yesterday. Erica Dutchess, our co-host, was here. Erica.
Starting point is 00:48:18 You married? I'm engaged. You're engaged. Okay. So how do your fiancé feel your your love scenes and stuff like that you know she's she's the same way she comes from uh you know that that place of like if you're gonna do it do it right kind of thing so she's a big fan of the show and she loves watching the show she has a great heart and a great empathetic capacity so she watched
Starting point is 00:48:38 watches drew or anybody going through it she's like wow like this is a every time i watch so i'm watching it being like i know what we did right i know what's happening it she's like wow like this is a every time i watch so i'm watching it being like i know what we did right i know what's happening and she's like wow this show like surprises me every time it's phenomenal this is this and this is it hard to watch it with her for any love scene because it's hard to watch it with her because she's sometimes around her in a table reads and so she's like privy to information and she's like oh so that's what you guys were talking about and oh oh i didn't you know and but in what you guys were talking about oh you know and but in terms of like content stuff and you know it's not it's not hard watching
Starting point is 00:49:09 you know cuz she's also done love scenes and how do you feel when you see her Back muscles. He said back muscles. He got that man meat on his back. Hey, yo. What? What? What? Call it back to what he said. Yeah, I was about to say, you want that man. I like that psych comedy. Man meat on the back.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Jesus. But yeah, how does that make you feel? You know, she just did this film called Perfect Addiction. It just came out. And in it,
Starting point is 00:49:39 she plays an MMA fighter and trainer. And she had to be with these 6'2", 6'3", you know, getting swollen bees for the role and coming in. And, you know, she was love interest to both of them. And I'm having to sit there being like,
Starting point is 00:49:52 you know, it's just fine. It's just fine. I'm 5'8". And, you know, I, you know, but... When you walk past the mirror, you walk back with your chest out. Yeah, for real. Listen, every time she goes somewhere
Starting point is 00:50:02 to work on a job or she's like, there's a time apart. I'm in the gym. I go crazy in the gym. Because when you come back, you'll see me looking different than when you left. That's right. You know, I want to ask you about, do you get flack from like actual gay actors who feel like that role should go to actual gay people? Like you took my role.
Starting point is 00:50:21 That's a good question. No. Yeah. I get a lot of love. A lot of like a lot of love. A lot of like, a lot of support comes from other queer actors. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:29 and I get a lot of love. Because I would think that's a ridiculous conversation to have because if a gay person plays a straight person it's because they got the role because they're a good actor.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Right. If you're good at what you do, you're good at what you do. Yeah. Woody got everybody hitting my damn phone. So all of a sudden I was kind of excited.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I ain't gonna lie. No, because I thought it was like, no, Woody tagged me on something. People were hitting me. I think we just need to do it. The reason I got excited, because I was like, oh, it might be some bread. Woody was like.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Explain the post. Woody said, he posted, I want to do a season finale watch party in South Carolina, but I need C to God to host it with me. He said, who in South Carolina would pull up? It got like 2,600 comments. And then people started making actual posts about it. Like, this needs to happen. And I'm like, do it.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So you guys are saying, what are we doing? I'm waiting. We've got to find a place to do it. Because, you know, we used to the house party vibe. Last time me and Woody partied together, we was in a house. House party, yeah. And you can't do it in a house. Thanksgiving, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Can't do it in a house. Bro, you can't bring all those people to your house. Nah, can't do that. You've got to figure out a way to do it. I don't know. And do we charge people? Yes. That's the hard part. You know what I mean? You those people to your house. Nah, can't do that. You got to figure out a way to do it. I don't know. And do we charge people? Yes. That's the hard part.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You got to charge people. Because if not, it's got to be limited space. If not, everybody's going to be there. It's going to be two-pack. You want limited space. You want people to be able to see. Yeah. So you charge people, but then have like an open bar?
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. Oh, have an open bar. Yeah. Have food. And food. So they can have a good time and some food. But that way you have sections so people can actually watch. You don't want a two-pack where you can't enjoy and scream and yell and all that other stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Maybe we can do it at the museum. The International African American Museum. I like that. You'd have to bring some TVs in and cable if they got it. It's not until the 26th, right? It's the 26th, yeah. Yeah, May 26th. Oh, yes, we got a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That's a little more a day weekend. We got time, though. We might can figure it out. I'd have fun there. Yeah, I'm saying you'd have the museum. But the pay is not really for you. It's more to make sure people are going to come. Because everybody at RZP, I'm coming. And then it'd be raining. They'd be like, I ain't coming in the museum. But the pay is not really for you. It's more to make sure people are going to come. Because if everybody are RZP, I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And then it'd be raining. They'd be like, I ain't coming in the rain. You know what I mean? But you want people that's going to come and enjoy and have a great time. But then, once again, that's a testament to how big power is in the culture. I'm telling you. Absolutely. All shows don't get that cultural reverence the way power got, man.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They don't. They don't. They let us host stuff like rappers. I'm at a host, and I i'm like i ain't got no songs i don't know what y'all want me to do so i just take pictures they would give me the mic i'm like i don't know what y'all want me to say like i ain't got no no bars or nothing for nobody does it bother y'all when the show was leaked yes okay i was tight is that the true leak because they said that it might not be the true shows well Well, no, I think it was like some fake poor quality stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I didn't see it. But man, it's like a rapper. You always tight when your shit leaks. And then like, who did it? It has to be somebody
Starting point is 00:52:54 in your camp, right? And why is it only power shows on Starz? I don't see that with nobody else. Or do people just care that much like other things leak that we just don't think about
Starting point is 00:53:02 but people care about this? That's crazy. I don't know. I don't know. I't know about it but like i appreciate the fans who like stuck it out and like are gonna watch it again you know and see it because it deserves to be seen you know in the right way when with this love triangle tyreek got going on right who would y'all rather see him end up with effie uh lauren or d? Speaking of Isabel, I'd rather see him with Diana. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Speaking of Isabel. Your sister? Yeah, speaking of Isabel. As Woody. As Woody. As Woody, Diana as well. Really? Yeah. Drew don't want Tariq
Starting point is 00:53:33 nowhere around. Absolutely. He can't get a family like that. Kane don't want it either. But as Isabel, they make a good pair. They're both very intelligent, and they both move around
Starting point is 00:53:43 the business really well, and they can actually make a great... If they came together like that they can make a good good team but then the brothers might have to kill him yeah so now it's drama yeah i agree did you feel bad for sax when he got killed hell yeah shane is so dope man he's so incredible he's the og well i think he's been there for like nine years and i think it caught everybody by surprise because i don't read the whole script until we get to the table i just read kind of my section so when i heard it for the first time it definitely was like one of those
Starting point is 00:54:13 emotional emotional things damn i don't even think about that i'm sitting there thinking about it from the character perspective these are people that's not gonna have no work no more well no see that's the thing like shane is such an amazing actor that he's working he's working he's an artist like he's an artist with him with ambition and with with drive you know and that's one thing like i always say about about actors about artists specifically like you don't we can make whatever we want to make whenever we want to make it like now depending on how much money you have and like if you want to get butts in seats that's another thing but like art is there you can just make it. And for Shane, he doesn't have to worry about lack.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But he'll always be a thriving artist because he's a beautiful actor. Y'all ever nervous that you're going to read a script and it's like, one of those things, please don't kill me, y'all. Please don't kill me. Please don't kill me, y'all. Y'all ever feel that way when y'all pick up a script? That was me season one, two, three, four. Because they're going to be like, yo, man, you're buying his house right now. You're buying his house. You're going to be like, please don't kill me, y'all. Please don't kill me, y'all. two, three, four. Because they could be like, yo, man, you're buying his house right now.
Starting point is 00:55:05 You're buying his house. You'd be like, please don't kill me, yo. Please don't kill me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for the same, like, the first season it was like that. But after the first season, whatever makes sense for the character, if the character got to go, he got to go. That's how I felt.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah. I just hope when they, you know, when they do decide to, if they do decide to do that with Drew, that it's iconic. You want Kane to kill you? Man, I don't know about that. That's heartbreaking. I got you, though. I've always wanted to be like, I said I wanted to be the Black Sean Bean and dying on my s***.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So if it's going to happen, it needs to be happening in some dope slow motion kind of like, you know, something dope. But I won't speak that out. You know, something dope. Something dope. But I won't speak that out. Season 6, 7, 8. And is there a real beef between the power team and the BMF actors? Is that real? Is that just some social media between... I don't think so. It might be.
Starting point is 00:55:57 That might be Twitter fingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope so because we're all black and we're all getting it. And I love that. I love to see that. So I think that's what it is. Y'all don't participate in that, though. It's usually a dude
Starting point is 00:56:07 that play Tariq and Meech. What did Mike do? He might. Nah, nah, I don't participate. On Jeff. I'll be doing it. I'll be in the gym. I ain't got time for that.
Starting point is 00:56:17 What he said, back to his party he's playing in in South Carolina. At the museum. Take my water, minding my biz. You want to do it for real? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Don't say that, Woody, because now we got to plan it. Take my water, minding my biz. You want to do it for real? Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Don't just, don't say that, Woody, because now we got a planet. I don't want to let people down. Nah, I'm serious. I'm serious. I know this is Hollywood. Like, yeah, hit me up.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Let's do this. But I'm like serious. I'm looking at you in the eyes. We're going to do this. Oh, Lord. Now I got to commit too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we taking it there.
Starting point is 00:56:41 We appreciate you, brothers, for joining us. Thank you for having us. May 26th. May 26th is the date. And thank you guys for stopping through. You know these guys are always invited. Are both episodes coming out the weekend of May 26th?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Or is one and then the next one? One this weekend. One this weekend. Oh, one this weekend and the finale next week. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. All right, so that's Woody McCain, Lavelle Adams-Gray. Appreciate you, brothers. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Come on. Appreciate it. Damn, the hee haw again It's time for donkey of the day I ain't trying to be donkey of the day no more They should be embarrassed by what they already did I'm not making these people do these things It's called donkey of the day and it really caught me off guard
Starting point is 00:57:18 Damn Solomon who got the donkey of the day today Well just hilarious donkey of the day today? Wow, that's hilarious. Donkey of the day goes to a man with seven kids and seven baby mamas. Now, I try not to pay attention to these people. You know what I'm saying? I see these people telling these outlandish stories on YouTube and TikTok because nowadays folks are saying and doing anything to get some attention. And being that we live in a world where nobody cares about the truth,
Starting point is 00:57:43 if the lie is more entertaining folks just be getting online telling these outrageous stories just to get some clicks and subscribers now i don't know if this story is real but the idea is and that's what i like to discuss and critique the idea okay the idea that digital d-heads like this young man put on the fbi's internet now as i told you this man got seven kids and seven baby mamas but he don't take care of none of them okay not a one why because he said he told those young ladies from the beginning that he don't want them now let's go to the FBI's main source for exhibit a's youtube to hear this young man speak now for the past few days I've been going live telling my story speaking my truth and a lot of women having an issue calling me a deadbeat because i tell them i was being irresponsible yet not wearing protection but i always tell these women that i got pregnant that i do not want to be a father to these children and i offer to
Starting point is 00:58:37 pay for the abortion majority of times they'll either take the abortion or they'll take a plan b but only these seven have kept these children. But the crazy thing about it is they want me to be responsible for some children I told them I did not want. So for some years now, some of them been trying to get in contact with me. Access denied. Because I don't really know why you're trying to get in contact with me. I didn't told you I did not want them kids. We both was irresponsible about the decisions we made that night.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah, I could have pulled out, but I didn't. And I ain't care to pull out because I'm not the one that gonna have to carry a baby for nine months. It's the woman. In my opinion, women should be more careful on who they sleep with. True. Portia, you just said earlier that women need to watch who they sleep with true porsche you just said earlier that women need to watch who they sleep with i mean damn how savage this man is listen i mean okay let's just let's be real he's not the first man to tell somebody to take a plan b he's not the first man to say he don't
Starting point is 00:59:43 want a child so at the end of the day that's why we got child support you still gotta pay for this child he need to be telling this story in jail right around the lunch table yes he does because just because you decide to say you don't want to pay for the child don't mean that you shouldn't have to i i feel that proper poom poom management is essential for a healthier life i feel this man is out here passing along uh sexually transmitted demons okay to whoever wants life i feel this man is out here passing along uh sexually transmitted demons okay to whoever wants them and yes this man is a demon and they should change that purple smiling face emoji with horns to his face because this is true demon time and i really wish this young man would have made this video after baby mama number one because if he would
Starting point is 01:00:20 have made this video after baby mama number one then he would have never gotten to seven baby mamas and if he did then every single one of them deserved a baby father they got because when the deadbeat tells you who they are believe them and it does amaze me that this young man is putting the responsibility not to get pregnant solely on the woman yeah can i hear more of this guy another thing is these just jump offs he's the type of woman that i ain't even had to do nothing for. The bad minimum, but they gave me access to their body. They think I want to be a father to a child for one of them? Wait, I don't even have no type of love for these women.
Starting point is 01:00:57 How do they expect me to love these children? I can offer to pay for abortion, but at what point can I force a woman to go get an abortion? I cannot. A woman say, my body, my choice, but I say, it's my life, my choice. Before y'all try to stitch this shit and be like, black men this, black men that, I don't give a fuck. I could have sworn he was going to say, she say, her body, her baby. Because that's how he feel. He's done I wish you could have saw your face when he said these girls give me their body for the bare
Starting point is 01:01:29 minimum disgusting like one thing I can say about Nick Cannon this man we got to bring him up die like y'all didn't think this story was his name at first you know but anyway at least he take care of his kids yeah that's true he actually wants to populate i don't know if this man went to school does he know what biology is when you put the vagina and the penis together they could make a baby that's right that's how it works you know what i wish i wish that uh along with these babies that he didn't want he would have got an std he didn't want you know how you know he don't that is very true but i feel like if he was getting multiple stds he wouldn't be moving like this and that's the thing brothers and sisters don't understand when y'all out here
Starting point is 01:02:18 you know raw dog and randoms okay doing the dna dance with any and everybody you're absolutely increasing your chances of catching uh gonosypho chances of catching gonosyphilherpes AIDS. OK, gonosyphilherpes AIDS is what irresponsible brothers should get. And I wish it was one way gonorrhea herpes AIDS. OK, because, you know, I don't want I don't want the woman to get it. Because it's one thing if he was telling these women his intentions before he slept with them. But he's not. He's telling them after the fact, after they have been manipulated to sleep with him. I don't respect it because you're not giving these women a choice.
Starting point is 01:02:46 He said he did, Char. That's what he's saying. After the fact, though. Oh, he didn't. No, I thought he said he told them before. No, he said, listen, I'm going to have sex with you. And if you get pregnant, I don't want it. Oh, I didn't hear that part.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He didn't say that. No, I thought he said after they have the baby. Oh. See, I would respect it if he did it before. Okay. I'm just saying, man. No, he actually said he'd tell you after you need to take a Plan B. Oh, after he done.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But either way, he done manipulated. When you feel that drip. When you feel that drip. You know what's finna go down. You're asking to go take a Plan B. Period. This man with seven baby mamas and seven kids, the biggest he are. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host with us, Jason Lee. That's right. Of course, from Hollywood Unlocked and a host of other things. And we got a special guest joining us this morning. He has a new book, The Solution Focus Diamond.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Elliot Connie. What's up? connie what's up welcome what's up tell me who you are man tell me who you are what you do uh my name is elliot connie i am a psychotherapist i host a podcast i do lots of things hoping to inspire people to be better versions of themselves i just got a couple of questions so where did you start and why did you want to be a therapist i had a real real tough childhood man and and i grew up anxious and depressed and suicidal and struggling i didn't know how i was going to pull myself out of it and i realized that hope is this like really powerful
Starting point is 01:04:15 thing and i feel felt like if i could figure out how to get myself out of that situation i wanted to help other people get out of that situation and i learned very quickly that when your pain has a purpose it doesn't hurt. What planted that seed in your head at such a young age to know that that's what you wanted to do? God, man, I don't I don't know. I can't I can't tell you that. I really think God touched my life, to be honest with you. So so when you decided to go for school, you said a tough childhood.
Starting point is 01:04:39 What was tough about your child? My dad, my father was a very, very aggressive man and took out his aggression on his kids too often you know is he military no he's just aggressive you know and to be kind to him i mean he's a black man from a difficult place grew up in chicago and i don't think he had the skills to raise a family in a loving caring way you think that's what made you move to wanting to be in the mental health field because you're like there's something wrong here and i want to figure it out no you know what i think it was the opposite i think it was there's something right here i want to figure it out because after going through all of that i found myself in
Starting point is 01:05:11 college and i'm like how come some people go through this stuff and end up on drugs and doing crazy things and how did i land in college and i wanted to share that i wanted to like you can do things with your life and it wasn't what was wrong it was what was right i just figured how did i end up here? And I don't think I'm special. And if I'm not special, I just need to tell people the secret. I just need to let people know what the secret is.
Starting point is 01:05:30 When did you start having those conversations, if you even did, with your dad? No, man. So my dad, we had a violent interaction. We had violent interactions throughout my life. When I was 19 was the last one. And I called him and I said, man, look, I can't have this anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I need you to follow three rules. If you can follow these three rules, I can get past everything else. So you called your dad. I called 19. The same one that raised you, dad, you just said was aggressive and said, dad, you need to follow these three rules. Three rules. You can't yell at me. You can't hit me.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And you can't curse at me. If you can do those three things, I'll figure out the rest. And he said, F you. And he hung up the phone. I was like, all right, bet. You haven't spoken since? No. Well, we've spoken a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:06:08 He was at my younger brother's graduation. I interacted with him. And he's tried to call me here or there. But no, no meaningful conversation. I feel like in the black community, a lot of us are taught you never speak back to your parents or never. You set boundaries with him. Do you think that's appropriate for people to do, first of all? Because I think we're told you respect your parents no matter what.
Starting point is 01:06:24 They can say whatever they want. They can do whatever they want. But I think that I appropriate for people to do, first of all? Because I think we're told you respect your parents no matter what. They can say whatever they want. They can do whatever they want. But I think that I don't agree with that. Yeah, well, I 100% was raised that way. Like, you respect your parents no matter what you do. But I was in such a bad place. I was like, I'm pretty sure that I'm not supposed to die behind that rule. Like, I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to suicide out of here just because I'm not supposed to talk back to my father.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So I got back. I got to a place where I was like, I got to set this boundary or else. I wonder if it's the term rules for an adult. You know what I mean? Because as an adult, you set the rules. Now when your child, because no matter how old you are, he still looks at you, I'm sure, as his child, growing up or not, is the setting of rules. I think that's an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Like if I said something other than rules. But I think to your point, but if you you look at your child you wouldn't take anywhere boundary rule request it wouldn't really matter like i was raised in that you know 1980s 1990s where black child is to be seen and not heard and and all that stuff i don't think it would have mattered but i also agree with you i think part of the issue in today's world is not respecting authority i'm talking about not respecting abusers I'm talking about not respecting abusers. I'm talking about not allowing abusers to have free reign to your life. I do think we have to learn to respect authority.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I think there's a lot of reasons contributing to why kids don't do that. You told me the other day that you feel like kids should disrespect their parents. I think parents should expect it. In the context of our conversation. Go ahead, Elliot. Jason Jason let me put that in context my mother would say Ellie go do the dishes and I would be like why didn't you ask one of them and that would get me popped
Starting point is 01:07:53 that would get you looked at but if you're teaching your child to be confident to be strong to value their voice they should ask those kinds of questions and it allows you to parent them but we shouldn't translate that as disrespect they're just practicing that's not disrespect they're practicing their voice that was in our era in the 1900s i would never think to talk back
Starting point is 01:08:15 i would never even think to talk to my parents the way my kids talk to me as ellie said it's not disrespect it's just them being like asking valid questions i don't agree with you with that ellie because is and this is gonna sound crazy all right here we go i got six kids so if i tell one of my kids to do something i expect it to be done i'm not gonna do it with something that's gonna be detrimental to their health something that's gonna hurt them it's part of what everybody needs to do to be in this household i agree meaning if if dad's chores or dad's way is to make the money pay the bills do this that and the other and I ask you to shovel the snow don't ask me why. Don't say
Starting point is 01:08:48 well, why didn't you ask this sibling? Why didn't you ask this one? No, because I asked you to do it. But you could explain it to them just the way you explained it just now. But Envy, Envy, listen you shouldn't have to. Is this a rule that applies to everything? Because it's one thing if a kid says, hey, you know, I want to try some fentanyl. Well, no, don't do fentanyl. Let me explain
Starting point is 01:09:04 to you why. So you invite them to a conversation about it versus i expect these things to be done as your parent so go do them yes i think because when you start inviting the kid into i mean i don't have kids clearly yet but when you have this perceived negotiation of what you expect as a parent that you invite them into a different type of relationship for sure and and not all things are negotiations i just think we need to have more conversations if my child said i want to try fentanyl it is perfectly okay to say no and let me sit you down and we're going to converse as to why like conversation is powerful look at what you guys have done with conversation all right we got more with elliot connie when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne
Starting point is 01:09:42 the guy we are the breakfast club we have jason leal co-host here we're still kicking it with elliot connie he has a new book out and of course he's a therapist charlamagne we always have these conversations about culturally competent therapists and one of the reasons i like talking to you is because i don't have to explain a twitter beef you know what i'm saying i don't have to explain what somebody said about me on a blog. You see it. You know it already. Other therapists I've had, you've had to explain that to them.
Starting point is 01:10:12 That takes a lot of time out of a session. Yeah. But that goes back to representation. I hope all of you guys take that very, very, especially you. There are people watching you that you're never going to meet, never going to see. And 20 years from now, they're still alive. Like, forget. They may be walking in your footsteps and have their own media company, but they're still alive because representation matters.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And there's a frustration. I was talking to somebody about this this weekend. There's a frustration associated with being black because we have to explain things to people. I was talking with somebody the other day, and I was furious. I'm tired of explaining this. But I was talking with somebody the other day, and I was furious. I'm tired of explaining this, but I was talking to this person about racial trauma, and this is a clinician. This is a professional clinician
Starting point is 01:10:52 at a professional clinician event, and somebody gave a lecture about racial trauma, and this person came up to me and said, what did you think of the lecture? I said, I thought it was good. That person explained a lot of things that y'all need to hear, and she said, well, I liked it too, but That person explained a lot of things that y'all need to hear.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And she said, well, I liked it too, but I was really frustrated because he said that black people, and particularly men, experience trauma every day. That can't be true. I said, it's absolutely true. Damn. I don't know a black person, particularly black men, that don't experience trauma every day. And she said, how could that be? I said, let me explain it to you if i locked you in your bedroom and i took the most venomous snake and i threw it in the bedroom with you and i locked that door and i close it i'll let you out for a week you didn't just experience trauma on the days you
Starting point is 01:11:35 got bit you experienced trauma every second of every day because you knew there was a venomous snake around and she was like oh i get it now i'm tired of explaining that to y'all that's right i don't want to explain blackness 24 hours of my day i want to explain to everybody what we mean there's a context for living this life that you and i just get and i think we need more black therapists a lot of people go to therapists and and the first time they go they don't have a favorable time and they feel like research about that and they feel like because of that they don't want to go back i just want to talk about that people who are looking for therapists because sometimes you find the wrong person it's not the right fit and people are scared to you know to go back right i tell people all the time like you don't go to
Starting point is 01:12:19 you know a restaurant and have a bad experience and then just boycott food right you don't do that you find another restaurant right and i think it i think we need to recognize therapy is the same if i go to see a therapist and it doesn't work doesn't mean therapy didn't work just mean that's particular therapist didn't work and we need to be just as variant in our attempts to find a good therapist as we are in our attempts to find good food i want to ask too like you know we've seen so many people discussing mental health nowadays number one do you think it has been a rise of black people going to therapy and and what do you think folks still get wrong about mental health um so to answer the first question yeah i think we do have more black people going to therapy it's the it's the tiger woods effect right like we're all old enough to
Starting point is 01:13:02 remember when tiger woods took over golf black people started going to play golf and they weren't playing golf before that uh serena williams and venus williams similar thing like young black girls go to tennis courts to play tennis because representation matters so the fact that you guys probably more than any other platform in the world platforms talk about black mental health more black people are going to therapy because they heard charlemagne suggested so and they heard it. So now they're like, man, maybe I can go do this. And it's the exact same thing that happened in tennis. It's the exact same thing that happens in golf.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And what I think we get wrong more than anything else is we think the therapist is supposed to solve our problems. That's actually not true. Like life is a turbulent flight. The therapist is supposed to make you a better pilot. I just got one last question. I know we're wrapping up. Charlamagne always talks about being anxious and people always talk about anxiety.
Starting point is 01:13:53 But I don't look at anxiety as a bad thing. It's how you control it, right? I have six kids. Charlamagne has four. When they go out until even to this day, when I go out as a grown-ass man my mom and dad still uh and have anxiety about me going out because they're scared right but they're not scared to a point where they're you know listening to that right but it's not to the point where they're calling me at six in the morning oh yeah are you done but they're anxious same thing with my kids
Starting point is 01:14:17 that's never going to change no that's healthy anxious okay like anxiety is like everything else there's a degree of healthiness to it and then some people go way beyond the spectrum to where and think about it in this term when something is interrupting your ability to live a normal daily life that's when it becomes a problem so that anxiety like my daughter's at nyu she just called me told me she's going to a party i'm gonna have a hard time relaxing tonight because i'm something could happen like that's that's normal but if you have anxiety where like my daughter's at nyu and i can't eat i can't sleep like that's that's normal but if you have anxiety where like my daughter's at nyu and i can't eat i can't sleep like that's that's the problem and i think we have to learn how to manage that and learn how to make people hear anxiety they automatically think negative
Starting point is 01:14:55 right they always think bad no but there is healthy anxiety like you love that daughter or all your children that daughter specifically because we're talking a little more yeah you don't want anything bad to happen so when she tells you i've done this thing that puts me at risk even mild risk i'm going to be worried about that the only things that will happen are things that god intended for you to experience and so you you can't have faith and anxiety because anxiety is fear-based so if i believe very strongly like like god's got me that means if i'm going through something hard i'm going through that hard thing for a reason. So there's no reason to, I just have to trust everything.
Starting point is 01:15:31 And that's what I would say. I would end by saying, like, if you can figure out a way to trust every experience, you're going through all of these things for a reason and be grateful for everything. Like, everything. You are untouchable emotionally. Like, you are just an indestructible force when you're just grateful for everything not just grateful for the good things not just grateful for the profound thing but i mean like grateful for all of it life is different all right well elliot connie ladies and gentlemen we appreciate you joining us man yeah how can they
Starting point is 01:16:00 find you you can find me on social media at Elliot Speaks on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. Elliot spelled two L's, two T's. And you can go to my website, ElliotConney.com. And that's where you can find all my stuff. All right. Well, it's The Breakfast Club. Elliot Conney, ladies and gentlemen. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:16:21 1051 is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, we are out for the next seven days. Yes, we out. But, you know, I want to salute somebody who will be holding us down in this building. My man, Chris, if you ever come to the front desk, man, the pleasant brother, you know, with the nice beard. You know, Chris. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 From the BX. Why are you looking at me like that? Say what up, Chris. That's kind of funny. What up, what up, what up. I just want to give a shout out to my boss daughter, Kendall. Yes. What else? You want to say just your boss. What up, what up, what up? I just want to give a shout out to my boss' daughter, Kendall. Yes. What else?
Starting point is 01:16:46 You want to say just your boss' daughter? You're not going to say your boss' name, Chris? You're going to say the name. Kiana. Her name's Kiana. Salute to Kiana. Kiana got me a nice bottle of Moet for my birthday. It was from the whole building, but salute to her for that.
Starting point is 01:16:57 That was nice. Definitely. And to my baby, I love you. You know who you are. No, no, Chris, no. Who is it, Chris? I can't tell her who she is. You can't say who she is?
Starting point is 01:17:08 She's going to be a little jealous. That man complimenting your beard over there. Chris said, to my baby, you know who you are. I don't know why I'm so nervous. Y'all going to spend the fourth together, Chris? You and your baby? Yeah, for sure. For sure, definitely.
Starting point is 01:17:20 That's what's up. You going to marry her? Jesus Christ. Now I am. Now I am? Jesus Christ. future definitely that's what's up you gonna marry her jesus christ now i am now now i am jesus my god chris you're getting in trouble chris you're about to get in trouble thank you chris man thank you for holding us down we appreciate you bro we do we appreciate you and the whole team at the front desk absolutely appreciate that's right thank you so much chris
Starting point is 01:17:41 all right now charlamagne what's your positive note i had a great therapy session yesterday and I told y'all some things that we talked about in therapy earlier, just about operating from a position of joy, right? Because people, you know, nothing makes people more jealous and envious of you than seeing you happy. But there's another thing I learned in therapy, and it's actually a quote from Wayne Gretzky. And I love this quote because too many people don't know where to go because they're too busy focusing on what was. So Wayne Gretzky once had a quote where he said, I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been. I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been. Y'all have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches!
Starting point is 01:18:27 You all finished or y'all done?

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