The Breakfast Club - The Breakfast Club x Native Land Pod | LIVE Election Night Coverage at Harris Campaign HQ

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

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But it's all HBCU love tonight. We got a lot of HBCU love on the panel tonight. We were at FAMU before. Actually, we should do a roll call. What we got? Roll call. CAU. The Florida A&M University fam, you. I have an honorary doctor from Wiley College.

I got an honorary doctor from South Carolina State University. Go Bulldogs. The real H-U Hampton University. Delaware State University is in the building. Yeah. All right, y'all. How much student loan debt up here, though? Let's talk about that.

I ain't got none, brother. It's all out. There you go. I was in state and Obama was in, you know what I mean? So he took care of us. I was real, real good. But now we're on the campus of the Howard University. And I got to tell you, I think

I was feeling like tonight was going to be significant in the first place. But to have the first time that a campus, a college campus is used in an election night victory for any candidate for president over the history of this country has never happened before. The first time it happens, it happens on the grounds of a historically black college or university.

The first, for many, the founding place for almost every black Greek organization, and I think a model for many HBCUs around the country. Just excellent academics, excellent athletics, music, culture, access to government. It's an incredible school, a great representation of HBCUs. Even though what's happening here tonight, you know, we saw before we

came on live with you guys, the homecoming court walked down, and we saw the young students in their crowns and, you know, their royal regalia, and I just, it felt like Wakanda come to life. And I think for any of us who attended HBCUs, you hear people say, oh, I wish Wakanda was real. Well, it was real for us during that time. And I feel that here tonight, the Divine Nine just did a universal step show on stage,

and then there's a lot of strolling happening, and I'm thinking about the people on the press risers who don't look like us who are probably quite confused. They're probably like, what is going on on this stumping? Everyone's jumping around with excitement for Harris tonight.

They are jumping around for excitement for her, but also it feels spiritual out here and I will just say this is going to be the blackest election night coverage you have today. This is a joy. It feels like a family reunion to be with y'all in such a remarkable place. I have watched Breakfast Club soar politically. Like, you guys engage and have talked to so many candidates, and it was a necessary stop.

Now it's a requirement. You guys, for the first time, are doing election night coverage, and I've got to know how it feels. I don't know yet. Are you nervous? I'm waiting to see if praying grandmothers, because I believe in praying grandmothers. There's a whole lot of praying grandmothers all across the country tonight.

So we're going to see. Because if things don't go the way we want them to go, we're going to have to think twice about the praying grandmother thing Every you got every black grandmother in America praying right now every single yeah, everyone Yeah, come on now. Yeah God gave us choice though. You are earlier. What happened? I'm still confident. Okay Where are we right now? Because people are texting my phone and people are saying things like, should we be panicking? I'm like, what are you talking about?

It's early. It's early. It's so early. Polls have closed in some places, yeah. That's right. And the likelihood of us knowing who the next president is tonight is really slim. You'll recall in 2020, we didn't know until the Saturday after Tuesday's election. And so I would tamper expectations

here that we will have a result tonight. Well, I think we'll know something, even if we don't have the total results from every state. Certain precincts perform certain ways in states. For instance, in my state, I can tell you where the red ones are going. The super ruby red ones will be. And if they are less than that, if the red is not as dark,

meaning it's a light pink, which means some of those voters in those red districts have gone over and voted blue in those places, diminishing the power of the Republican voters. I'm hoping Dade County came through for Trump tonight, though. Dade County has come through unfortunately the last three, four

cycles for the Republicans. I just want to say that I asked the Breakfast Club folks how they felt about doing it. They feel good. They're talking about it. But, no, only one talked about it. We didn't get from FBR or Lauren. I just want to make sure.

I will say this. It's a feeling that I've – it feels like a family reunion. Like, Lauren and I went on the yard. We were partying with the students, with the alumni. And it's not just Howard University students. It's all HBCUs. I mean, we've seen people from FAMU. We've seen people from North Carolina A&T.

We see some Hampton University people, some Morgan State people, and they're just excited. They feel like they're seen finally. Yeah. And it's a great opportunity just to be there with them. It's like no other. I thought it was like homecoming, but this is better than a homecoming. So I'm really enjoying the moment.

What about you, Lauren? I feel like I have ran into... Don't you know what it drinks at? You look like you know what it drinks at. Shut up. I'm listening, Lauren. How about when you... You do too much.

Go ahead. I'm listening, Lauren. I can't act up because Angela Rye up here. Because when you said that, I looked like, who? Who knows? No. Y'all got to be careful because you're going to end up. Okay.

Anyway, when we were walking back from the yard, I saw April Ryan. I was like, oh, my God, it's April Ryan. And I was like, I'm going to go over and say hi to her. And when I went over and we were talking, she came up here. She said the same thing. She was like, media, black media feels seen because it's like they in our home right now. Anybody who doesn't look like us tonight, we got to explain what is happening, what is breaking down. You know, she's been on the Hill for a very long time. She's been holding it down.

And a lot of times she goes to battle with people who don't look like her. So she's like, oh, it's reversed now. She was literally the only black representation we had in the White House for a long time. So you are watching black history happen. Yes. We love it. So one of the things that I think we should address is this whole electoral college versus popular vote thing. A lot of people have been asking questions about that. We got some smart

folks up here. Who's taking that on? Tiffany Cross looks like she's ready. Well, I honestly think that is something I'm looking out for tonight. I think there will be, I've long said on NLP that I am anticipating political violence. I think the violence will happen in the courts, and I think there will be violence in the streets. Already we've seen fake electors in Wisconsin, people who have been

election deniers put in positions of authority. We'll see tonight if Republican governors who did not, if the election results did not go their way, will they certify results? Of course they won't. Well, we don't know. We'll see. We are at a time where we are really questioning,

will people accept election results they don't like? Now, I will point out the slithering example out of Georgia when Donald Trump did ask the Secretary of State there to fine him 11,000 votes. Those Republicans said no. Right now, the election deniers have been elevated in their roles of power. When we saw the insurrection here in Washington, D.C., in the nation's capital on January 6th, this is a unique space. We have over 30-plus law enforcement agencies.

When you consider electors out in some of these jurisdictions, they don't have that same level of protection. Well, let me ask you a question. Can you break down for, like, even my kids wanted to know, why did they have an electoral college? Why was it created? Like, everybody says the popular vote should win, but it was created for a particular reason.

Can you explain why it was created for people that don't know? Yes. So you think we're going to have no voting power? Precisely. It was honestly, that really is what it was. The enslaved were literally used. Well, the electoral college was put into place because they feared more populated states, the bigger states, the New Yorks of the time, the Pennsylvanians of the time,

would basically use their populations to Bigfoot all of the agrarian areas, all the farmers. These are the planting class, the people who had the money. The mostly southern states, but it was the mostly southern states. They were mostly southern states who were afraid that northeastern states' populations would overtake them. Right. So they, the framers, we didn't have confederates yet, the framers at the time, I'm clear. that they would appropriate based off of populations and then allotting respective states to receive votes, that they would then cast those votes in an electoral college convention

for whoever would be president. I do want to point out they did not have the confederacy, but they had confederate mentality already. And it absolutely, electoral college is a vestige of slavery and is absolutely racist to the foundation. So it preceded slavery. That's not true. It's 1619.

It preceded slavery's ending, is what I'm saying. Yes. So the country didn't conceive of ever having to give votes to black people. That's right. They didn't conceive of it. And weren't they split over the fact, didn't some of them want the popular vote, but didn't some of them want Congress to be able to black people. That's right. They didn't conceive of it. And weren't they split over the fact didn't some of them want the popular vote, but didn't some of them want Congress to be able to decide the president?

They wanted electors. They wanted the people to inform who the delegates would be to the convention to decide the president. So why can't we get rid of it now? That was a constitutional amendment, and we don't believe Republicans will allow basically the

Electoral College to be demolished because they have more power. They have more power under that system. Iowa, none of us are moving there. That state will remain what it looks like, and therefore they're going to continue to be able to bigfoot over states. There's no reason California that basically

half the vote that comes out of that state means nothing. Andrew, how big of a deal was the Iowa poll this week that came out? Big-ass deal. Okay. It was a big deal because the last president to win the state of Iowa was Barack Obama. And, again, at that time it was by close margins. They were just polled six months before, and Donald Trump had a 27-point lead. To look now and see that she crept up to potentially three points ahead of him in a three point, you know, margin of error is incredible.

And it's likely because of the abortion ban that was implemented in that state has had now almost seven, six months at a go. And people don't like what they're seeing. Right. You know, we're saying it's incredible. And yes, it is incredible in terms of what we know about the country. But I want to punctuate that point with it is fucking incredible that she is in competition with this half-witted man. You know, with everything he has done, the fact that the race is this close is a travesty.

I'm so proud as a black person and particularly a black woman to see the most qualified woman who has worked in every branch of government, the executive, the legislative. Well, she hasn't worked in the judicial. But she was on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Yes, she was. As an attorney.

Right. She had, yes, precisely. So she had a role in the judiciary branch as well. This man has no plans, no experience. His first job in government was as President of the United States, and the race is this close. So I trust

that America will do the right thing tonight, but I've been saying, either way, America will get the President they deserve tonight. I was going to ask you, so with everything that you just said, right, it being that close, when Kamala wins, what is she up against? Because we talk a lot about, like, you know, you still got to challenge your person that you want to win. You still got to – what is she up against?

Because there's a lot of people, because that margin is close, that are like, she shouldn't be there. What does that look like? What does the first day out look like, first week out? Well, she's going to have to use her executive power on day one. We'll have to see what the legislative branch looks like. What will Democrats control? Will Democrats control the Senate? Will Democrats control the House?

I will jump out and say I think Democrats will take the House, which will give us another historic position in making Congressman from Brooklyn, Hakeem Jeffries, the first black speaker of the House, the first black male speaker of the House. So I can imagine that there are some pockets of conservative America that will lose their mind. And I think she will be if the if the Republicans control the Senate, it can be a deadlock. I mean, because that is the courts. That's where you confirm justices. So it can be challenging on the other side of that, though. She will also have to confront demands on the left.

She's made some strange bedfellows in bringing coalitions together this cycle, and she has extended herself to Republicans. She has promised Republicans positions in the Cabinet. She's promised to have a bipartisan legislation. And so I think on our side, as people who support her, for sure, we still have to hold her accountable to our agenda. And there are people who want for sure, absolutely

a ceasefire in Gaza. She's going to have to deal with that. The black man agenda that she put out, that was a plan. We want to see it executed. So she will have her hands full. I want to ask you about that, Tiff, if she loses, which I don't think she will. I don't know.

But would that be a testament to, like, do big tent politics still work? Or should you be focusing on niche groups? Because she brought together Republicans. She brought together progressives. She brought together, you know, black men, Latino men. Do big tent politics still work? Or should you be focusing on niche groups? I think that is big tent politics to focus on.

I know. I'm saying if she loses, though, is what I'm saying. No, I think should she lose, which, again, I don't think that's going to happen. Should she lose, I would say that the country has shown yet again that they do not want a black woman as president. Even when you see a lot of the exit polls and you're asking people, what are your issues that you care about? And you have people in Wisconsin saying immigration. What is your big immigration issue in Wisconsin?

That is subtext to me for, I don't want these black and brown people taking over the country. I think we have to look ahead and start moving in conviction. By the year 2044, there will be no racial majority in this country. So I think big tent politics includes all of us.

And this is the time that we're seeing what does a government that is for the people, by the people, of the people look like, what it includes all of us. Before, we would have to wait what the white folks are going to do, how they're going to vote. I think we have to let go of that frame of thought. And I think this election tonight will show that is an antiquated way of thinking and moving forward we finally have the privilege to vote with our convictions and not wait to be led by the white voting bloc in this country charlotte man i think the last time we're in the last stages of why big tick politics but big tech politics explain what people are you're right so typically if you're a republican you can rely on the fact that the color of your skin is largely going to be the prerequisite to you being a member of the party.

That's why it is the whitest party of the two-party system. Democratic side, our coalition is built up. In order to get to 50 plus one, which is half plus one person or one vote, you've got to be able to, if the color of our skin is not the thing that unites us under one party, because we're not enough. We may get 11% of the population. We need the other 40-whatever to get us over. And so if the Democratic Party has to get a slice of the Latino community, we have to get a slice of the white female vote. We even have to earn a slice of white male votes in our coalition right now. LGBT, go beyond that and list all of the others.

That's what the party's made up of, and it's politics is about that complex. Because you've got to meet everybody where their need is. And unfortunately, right now, the white majority, the white conservative majority is still, quite frankly,

close to 51%. So they could vote together and still be able to hold this thing. But soon, and you've already pointed out, it won't be enough to just say we're in community because we're the majority because we're all white. They're going to have to do and say

more to bring more people their direction in order for them to win elections. I'd like to ask y'all, as a call-in show, you get the voice from the American people very directly almost every single day. And I'd love to hear y'all, as a call-in show, you get the voice from the American people very directly almost every single day. Oh, absolutely. And I'd love to hear when did the tenor of your listeners begin to shift to a place where it was no longer just skeptical of a Kamala Harris, but it began to really embrace what a Kamala Harris presidency would look like?

I don't even— Maybe that's on the other side of the question. I don't know if they have yet. I still didn't feel that. Oh, you're not convinced of that? Yeah, I still didn't feel that totally yet. I can tell you when it happened for me personally. I remember when it was first announced.

I was talking to Charlamagne about it. I didn't. I was like, I don't know if this is the way. Like, I was nervous because I felt like she had been pushed to the back behind Biden. I mean, she's VP, so, like, you know, she has to be there. But I was like, I don't know if the push can be strong enough because it was just, it was such a great cloud over it. And then that first day, I was like, oh.

This was the answer the whole time, just sitting right here. Sitting right there. I saw the way that the world was reacting to her and just the momentum. And I felt like, okay, if she really knows herself, what she does, if she's really qualified, what she is, she has the background, what she does, all she needs is the platform. And now it's here. You know what I mean?

I think people realize when I think people started not liking Joe Biden. When they started seeing, I would say, early signs of dementia where he just didn't seem there. I would say that. And I think that was the truth. That's what I've seen. That man ain't got dementia. I wish y'all would stop dying. I didn't say he had dementia. We don't know if he does or doesn't.

There's something that... We don't know. There was something happening. Something was happening, and it wasn't right, and I think people were looking for a way out, and when they seen Kamala, I think it was like,

wow, she is what people are saying, and then when you get to talk to her and you start seeing her speak and see who she is... I mean, he's not wrong. It was when that money started coming in. When she raised all that money, the first thing...

I'm trying to tell you. I was supposed to be lying. She locked up the delegates in 30 hours. hours. I'm like, I don't know people realize like this don't be happening. Like a black woman? Well, you guys, speaking of big tents, I think it's really important for us to recognize there was a big

tent on the stage that there was a powerful moment and a display of black unity. Normally you see these folks at step shows, and it's a battle. It's a full-on battle. It's a full-on battle. And today, we have them joining us. It is the D9, everybody, the Divine Nine.

Y'all can come right here. Line up behind us. Y'all, come on, come on, come on. We got the Alphas, the Kappas, the Deltas. We got right here. The Rho, the, come on, come on. We got the Alphas, the Kappas, the Deltas. We got right here, honey. The Zetas. A-5-A-N-B-1-B-A-K-A. Alright, y'all.

You guys can line up in front of us. I'm missing one. Wrap around and line up in front. Just watch that phone, honey. There you go. You're all good. I just can't feel it right here. I got them. So, I'm going to pass. This mic is on. I'm going to pass y'all this mic. Talk to us about how you're feeling tonight.

It's on. Yes. Okay. No, okay. Here we go. It's on. Is it on? Yes.

It's on. Oh, she didn't hear me. Oh, the question was how are you all feeling tonight? Good. We're good. We're feeling very excited. Tell us your name and where you're from. My name is Imani Smith. I'm from Los Angeles, California.

All right, West Coast. All right, tell us how you're feeling, y'all. We have another mic. Where is it, Leonard? Right here. I think this one's on. Check, check, check. It's on now. Just pass them down. Yes, there you go. Hello, my name is Jamari Robinson. I'm a junior criminology and political science double major,

military science minor from Columbus, Georgia by the way, Palm Beach, Florida, and I feel great tonight to see history be Robinson. I'm a junior criminology and political science double major, military science minor from Columbus, Georgia, by the way, Palm Beach, Florida. And I feel great tonight to see history be made. All right. Hello, everyone. My name is Lauren Marshall. I'm a senior health sciences major from the biggest city in the best city, Chicago, Illinois. All right. Hi, everybody.

My name is Zaria Jones. I'm a junior human development major from Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah. Hot Atlanta. Hi, my name is Zaria Jones. I'm a junior human development major from Atlanta, Georgia. Hi, my name is Taylor Beard. I'm a junior journalism major, business administration minor from Severn, Maryland. Gentlemen, y'all still got the mic? Hi, Brandon McCaskill, junior finance major from Detroit, Michigan. I feel extremely excited about tonight. I think we're all very, very proud of our university and the products of it and, you know, thankful to be here for sure. Okay, Detroit.

Right. You all sitting up? Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Pass the mic, honey. Hello. My name is Kirsten Branch, and I am from Houston, Texas.

All right. H-Town. All right. Next fellow. Go ahead with the mic. Introduce yourself. Introduce yourself. Where are you from?

Where are you from? How are you feeling tonight? My name is Makai Emmanuel. I'm a junior sports medicine major, psychology minor from Queens, New York. Queens, New York. Yes, sir. All right. Hello.

My name is Jayden Armand. I am a senior journalism major, business administration minor from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Amazing. What's up, y'all? My name is Joshua Jean-Louis. I am a graduating senior music education major, classical voice minor from Houston, Texas, by way of Lafayette, Louisiana. All right.

Lafayette. Hello, everyone. My name is Devin McDaniel. I am a senior finance major from Trenton, New Jersey. All right. Do we get everybody? Hello, everyone. My name is Kalia Leach.

I am a senior public relations major, sports administration minor from Baltimore, Maryland. Hello, my name is Bryce Fesey. I'm a junior health science major, biology minor from Berkeley Heights, New Jersey. How you doing? My name is Jordan Newsome. I'm a senior biology honors major, chemistry minor from Brooklyn, New York. Oh, New York is heavy over here. Everybody introduce yourself. Hello, everyone. My name is Chase Cubia. I am a junior finance major from Grand Rapids, Michigan.

I think last but not least. Hey, guys. My name is Dylan Thomas. I'm a senior business major from Houston, Texas. Happy to be here. All right. Let's give it up for the Divine Nine. Thank you, guys. Welcome, y'all. How y'all spirits feeling about tonight? To the mic, to the mic. In the mic. There's hope and there's fear. I think maybe equally so of both.

But we're choosing to stay optimistic no matter what we're seeing because we've been over here with you guys. So I pray that everything is going well. But I think that with democracy on the ballot, it's super important that we have somebody that is standing as a beacon of hope in the same way that, hopefully, we're able to be. I love it. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. Let's give it up for the Divine Knight!

Alright, well, thank y'all so much. We are going to be watching and praying with y'all, and we appreciate you joining Native Land Potter the Breakfast Club. See you soon. Alright. I gotta ask you guys, any of you guys pledged? No? And we appreciate you joining Native Land Part of the Breakfast Club. See you soon. All right. All right. I got to ask you guys, any of you guys pledged? No, no.

No, there's no Greek. Charlotte, no. PDI. No, no. No. My brother is a member of Phi Beta Sigma. I was Miss Black and Gold. That's it.

All right. And now you don't pledge. Shout out to the outfits. You said Hampton is the white. You want to step? They want to step. That is hilarious. Oh, you said picture. Let's do it.

You said they want to step. I thought y'all wanted to step. My bad. Shout out to Brincia Berry, our good friend from the DNC who brought over the Divine. Come over this way. I feel like the light ends better. Watch that phone, honey. That's what I was saying.

I didn't want y'all to watch that. Yeah, that's our connection to the riser. Okay, so while they're taking selfies, we are back with live college night coverage. If you're just now joining us, we are live at the Mecca at HU, Howard University in Washington, D.C., where Kamala Harris is expected to address

a very large, lively step dance and crowd tonight. So anyway, we are back at it. And we were talking about how we're feeling. We asked the young people. Any numbers? Well, right now. Should we even be looking at numbers right now? Yeah, that's the thing.

You know, I can't help it. You get like little increments of numbers coming in. I don't know. We'll see little increments of numbers coming in. I don't know. We'll see. They'll announce on the screen over there, so we'll see when they start projecting states. Anytime you hear them cheering, that usually means I'm going to want to stay. I think the other thing to know is overall, if maybe we can talk overall vote count,

Harris right now has 26,965,228 votes. Donald Trump has 30,179,993 votes. And others, other candidates have 745,000 plus votes. So that's a significant number for the others. Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, D.C. have all been called for Kamala. She's projected to win those states. And Mississippi, oh, sorry, let me start at the top here. She's projected to win Delaware, too. Oh, did I skip Delaware? Yeah.

I'm sorry, honey. I voted for her in Delaware. You said I made that. I made that happen. Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, way to go, Lenard, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming have all been projected. I wonder if we have, because in Delaware, we also stand to get another black woman elected to the Senate, Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester. Has that race been called?

Do we have data on that? I don't see that on Twitter. Well, I'm going to address her. Y'all got the official stuff. I got Twitter alerts here. I'm going to address her as Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester, assuming that will happen. Another state that she won that you talked about. Yes?

Has been called with 56.4% of the vote. So she is officially a senator. She will be when she's sworn in. Amazing. Absolutely. And in Maryland, we also have another black woman poised to go to the Senate. And that has not yet been called. But it looks like she's winning right now.

She's leading with 50% of the vote in, 55.4% to 42.6%. I don't know why it's not called, but she's got a strong lead against former Governor Larry Hogan in Maryland. Republican governor that she's squaring off against. So you can't Governor Larry Hogan in Maryland. Republican governor that she's wearing off against. So you can't see what's happening behind us. There is a massive crowd. Yes. Right here on Howard's campus who are excited. Has to be over 20,000, 30,000 people. I would agree. It's a sea of us and it looks beautiful. I think they've been serving food, Tiffany, because everybody over there got quiet and still.

They were dancing and all kinds of stuff for a little while. That is true. They need to pay another line. Maybe they all went to Chick-fil-A like you. Or maybe, honestly, maybe Leonard is projecting. I know. I know. That's what's actually going to happen.

They were dancing. They were doing, like, line dancing and all that. The wobble. But they've been here for a long time. That's true. They've been here for at least 5, 6 o'clock, dancing for 5, 6. They tired.

They ready to celebrate. So will they stay here the entire time? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. She will speak tonight, right? Regardless, right? Yes, she will come out and address the crowd at some point. But again, I don't think that she will be able to declare anything tonight. And

even if she were, I wonder. Lisa, we can confirm that Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester is a senator. Angela said that, but I want to shout out Lolo on the side. I don't know if she could hear. She might not be able to hear us. Yeah.

She needs some headphones. She needs some headphones immediately because she didn't hear us call that race already. But thank you. Keep telling us just in case we miss it. So thank you. None of those states you named, there's no surprises in none of those states. You know what? I'm going to tell you guys, and they're probably going to laugh at me.

Hans is driving me crazy. I'm an optimist. Oh, okay. What did I do? You know, he keeps. Oh, I me. And he's driving me crazy. I'm an optimist. Oh, okay. What did I do? You know, he keeps – Oh, I thought you said I'm driving you crazy. Well, I was just going to say, when we did our live show from FAMU on Friday, we had the state director from Harris for President on,

and she said she thought that Florida would surprise us, that she thought it was trending in the right direction. But I got to tell you, this is not the right direction. It's not the right direction. That's not what I see. I told you from jump that wasn't happening. Thanks, Andrew. That's so what I see. I told you from jump that wasn't happening. Thank you, Andrew. That's so kind of you.

I didn't think Florida. You know, Florida, for the people out there who are younger and may not remember, Florida used to be a purple state. It was a swing state. You didn't know which way it was going to go. Ohio, same thing, used to be a swing state. And now they're not the political juggernauts that they once were. Florida is solid red. Ohio is solid red. It's gone Republican in the past, I think

four election cycles. So we are really looking at a brand new electoral map here tonight and it's crazy because the entire landscape, the map has been thrown out since 2016. I know we have our brother here from Florida tonight, but

Lenar, you'll recall how I feel about Florida. Oh, absolutely. You called it the dick of the country. Jesus, damn. Wait, the what? Excuse me? Laura said what? Laura, I need to go.

The dick of the country. Calm down, Laura. No, I was just, that caught me off guard. I didn't know. Well, there actually is data around Florida. I mean, it really has. Is data around Florida being the dick of the country? Yes.

Yes, and I will tell you why. I did not. I will tell you why. Because it has become a safe haven for white supremacists. If you look at activity down there, the FBI has already documented and confirmed that the greatest domestic

security threat is white supremacy, white supremacy groups. And that is largely concentrated in Florida, so much so that there was a challenge in the punitive system down there in the prisons where the prison guards were also members of white supremacy gangs and abusing the prisoners there. So it's prevalent in every part of government in Florida. So, yeah, Florida can be castrated. Except for Andrew.

Wildin' over here. So I'm only picking up every other sentence. All I ever say is, you know, the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Tiffany want to castrate the whole Florida. What were you able to do in Florida, Andrew, that was different than other politicians? One, I don't think Florida is solidly red. I think they have beat Democrats into submission in Florida. You know, when you win so much and you then win and you change the laws to favor you,

it's hard to compete in a system that is so terribly imbalanced, right? But in our race, I mean, we had to literally, I mean, I spent two years knocking on doors and talking to people who don't get talked to in politics to convince them, one, that the government was something that should work for them. Right. And two, that if I get elected, if it isn't a government that serves you, we're going to bend it so that it does. And if it doesn't bend, then we'll break it and we'll start again so that it meets your needs. And I think we were able to convince a lot of people that that vision was possible. Now, Republicans, again, they've taken the state.

If you're Walt Disney World, the biggest corporation in the state of Florida, and a governor literally kicks your teeth in and sets an example for any other corporation in the state, if you step outside a line like the Gestapo outcome and get you, then you start to quell a lot of opposition voices under that environment. That's exactly what Trump wants to replicate in the country. He wants things to happen because he says so. What did she win?

Something else good may have happened. Somebody did text me and they said Iowa. They didn't give me no context. Hold on, I'm going to refresh. If that were Iowa, we'd be deafening sound right now. Somebody just texted me and they just said Iowa. That's all they said. I'm a refresh. If that were Iowa, we'd be deafening sound right now. Maybe. Maybe.

Somebody just texted me and they just said Iowa. That's all they said. I'm going to tell you all right now. I see one minute ago Kamala Harris. I text back and say, what happened? But they ain't text me back yet. I don't have it called yet. Nate Cohn said that Trump is a narrow but clear favorite to win Georgia and North Carolina. If he does carry those states, Harris would need to sweep Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin to win.

A real possibility with a tall order nonetheless. It is a tall order, but I think she'll hold the blue wall. They call it some states. This is frustrating. We're at 100 and 78. Did I tell you she won New York? That's called. Okay, that's what I saw a minute ago, but I didn't know.

Yeah, that's called. Rhode Island. Did I say Rhode Island? I can't remember. Let me use my little handy-dandy checklist. Vice President Harris now has 99 electoral votes. Okay. Donald Trump, 178.

Oh, so mine is still not. So he's about 100 short of. And the polls still haven't closed on the West Coast, correct? No, not at all. Not as yet. But none of the battlegrounds have come in yet, right? Right. None of the battlegrounds that matter for Kamala Harris have come in yet.

Well, it looks like Illinois. Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, of course, is still out. Let me ask you guys a question. For the younger people that are watching right now, why would they want to jump into politics, right? Because you look at politics and you see that they go into your life. They attack your family. They attack your values. They attack your morals. they make up stuff. Why would somebody young, why would you

tell them it's a good reason to get into politics? I think I'm stealing from my brother Andrew here, but I think one thing that white supremacy has done, Andrew, again, these are Andrew's words that I'm stealing, but they have captured our imagination. They have taken our ability away to imagine what democracy would look like if we are its architect. And so the same thing that we tell people about voting, you try to give people, if you stop 10 young people and say, okay, you're in charge of this five-block radius. You're in charge of when the trash gets picked up. You're in charge of where they go to school. You're in charge of this five block radius. Right. You're in charge of when the trash gets picked up.

You're in charge of where they go to school. You're in charge of how the school looks. You're in charge of how much taxes people are going to pay. It's to keep all this functioning. You get to run all of that. Right. That's why you go into politics. Because you get to shape what society looks like when it includes you.

And so if you give it to people that way, where it's a blank wall, and you can be the architect of democracy, how do you want to shape it? That's an incredible amount of power and an incredible amount of privilege. The question is, do you want to rule or do you want to lead? If you want to lead, this is the perfect time to get into politics, and I would encourage young people to do. And you don't have to be the candidate. You can be a campaign manager.

You can be a fundraiser. You can be a fundraiser. You can work on a campaign as any of these numbers, a communications director. There's so much that can impact political campaigns. What would you say, Andrew, because you actually were a candidate. Andrew's been elected since you were, what, 18?

Yeah, I mean, well, the last time I lost an election was third grade. From that point all the way through until I was 40, you know, 41 years old, I held elective office. And for me, I almost think it's an instinct that when you see something that's wrong, that you don't like, and it frustrates you so much to see it wrong every day in and every day out, the people who are different are likely to figure out a path to how it is that they shift that thing that brings them annoyance every day. And if that annoyance is greater than an annoyance means your livelihood, meaning you're sick of watching your mother struggle to pay rent or mortgage or your father, you know, who suffers some from alcoholism

because of his frustration on the job that he can never move up, then the urgency around how you shift the system becomes that much greater for you. So for me, it almost felt like a reflexive instinct that if this shit ain't right, then you do something to make it right. But how does it make you feel when you started so early, you did what you were supposed to do, you followed the rules, and then you see somebody like a Donald Trump who really wasn't a politician, came from nowhere, showed signs of racism to me and all the different things,

grabbed him by the pussy and all the things that he said and it seems like people just say, it is what it is. And they elected him as president. And now he's going against Kamala Harris. That just seems fucking insane. I think bedfellows get to bed very strangely sometimes.

And in his case, it's so much easier to unite a people around a fight against extinction. Like if you feel viscerally that everything you know, love about a place, and that you want your child to grow up in and also experience about a place, you're going to fight heaven and earth to keep that thing for them because you think it means their future, their future prosperity. If I had a guarantee that if I voted this way, my children's life would be better, they would experience it better, and you'd have a guarantee that that were the case,

I'd be blindly Republican too if that was the party offering that. Right. But let me ask you, Angela and Tiffany, how do you deal with the fake news so much? Because people, you know, this is one thing that Charlamagne and Lauren will say, people call the radio and they don't know what's true or what's not. That's right. You know, we say, look it up, but when they Google,

half the time, half the time, they Google. It depends on what you're looking for. So they don't know how to find what's proper. They hear a candidate and the candidate's lying, so they don't know who they should agree. So what do you tell those people? Because they are trying to do their homework. They are trying to do their research, but a lot of the research is BS.

People will disagree with me because they say you can never blame voters. I'm probably a unique voice in which I will sometimes blame voters. It is a responsibility to participate in democracy. So people who say, well, I don't know how Vice President Harris feels, or I don't know where she stands on something. Her plan is accessible. You can literally go to her website and see where she stands. You can go to Donald Trump's website and

see where he stands. And you can make an informed decision about which candidate speaks to you. Now, when you pull out larger and just look at the media landscape, you know, I've been navigating newsrooms for 24 years of my life. It has been incredibly frustrating, Envy, I will tell you. My heart is breaking to watch journalism die a slow death. And the challenge is because there are so many people in newsrooms who don't look like us who are willing to extend humanity and understanding to people who are, you know, spitting in our face and trying to convince us it's rain.

There are people who say, well, my grandmother voted for Donald Trump, and she's not so bad. And those people are producers, and so they're willing to extend humanity to people. It's lazy reporting, lazy journalism when you interview people, and they say, just today, they said, exit polls, who did you vote for, Donald Trump? Why? I like his policies. So I'm, like, screaming, ask why, ask what policies.

This reporter said, well, what policies? And the woman just said, I mean, all of them. You don't know. I just had no clue. Right. You were voting for him for a specific reason. I think we underestimate how people will forget what you did, they'll forget what you said, but they'll never forget how you made them feel.

And I was watching this Asian guy on CNN, and he was saying that, you know, he feels like his small business did better four years ago when Trump was in office. I think a lot of that has to do with PPP. I think a lot of that has to do with those stimulus checks. And I think that's what people are – people still remember that energy. Yeah. Well, there's one person standing in the wings right here that makes us feel a certain way. Erin Haines is a good friend of ours, a brilliant political strategist,

a journalist, and political commentator. Erin, we're going to scoot down, Tiff, and let her come sit right here because she ain't got no headphones. Oh, go down there. We're going to scoot on down. Angela, did you talk about New Hampshire already? No, I did not talk about New Hampshire. You breaking news?

The Fox News Decision Desk is projecting a win for her in New Hampshire. How many electoral votes is that? It doesn't. Peace, Erin. New Hampshire is not a lot of electoral votes. But why New Hampshire is significant is because they lead the primary. Yeah. So that's why we pay so much attention to New Hampshire.

Erin, can I ask you a question? If you didn't hear that, New Hampshire was projected for vice president. How should we feel about this? The electoral map. Do you want to tell them what you're looking at? Oh, the electoral map. Trump 178. What did you have? What source are you looking at? This is Google.

Okay. Who is that? Where did they pull it from? Oh, this is Google. Associated Press. Oh, the AP. She knows a little bit about the AP. They have Trump 178, BP 99. Look, I mean, I think what it means is it is what? 10 o'clock?

Okay. 943. You know, so, I mean, it's 943 on Tuesday. It's, you know, 61 degrees. I know. That's right. I'm going to keep counting the votes because this thing is not over. I mean, I'm from Georgia.

I know Fulton County has not come in. Atlanta has not come in. So like we can't even really look at those numbers coming out of Georgia as real right now. Philadelphia is another big city. I just, you know, live there. Know that that is another county that comes in super late. Detroit is another place that's going to come in super late. So you've got a lot of big cities where we know there are a lot of votes that still haven't been counted yet. And so, you know, this thing is far, far from over. That's what I know looking at this map and also looking at the clock.

Does Trump try to call it tonight? Yes. He's going to try to call it whether we get to the other side and Kamala got 286 electoral votes. He's still going to try to call it tonight. I think we know that. Like this is a part of their plan. And then if she ends up picking up additional votes going towards Saturday

or even on Sunday, he will say that they tried to steal it. And that's the same thing that happened. It's the exact same playbook from January 6, 2021. We know what it is. We know what we're up against. I think right now, I'll be honest in saying my nerves are bad. I didn't want the gap to be this big. Some outlets are projecting that he won Texas, and it's with 50% of the vote in, and I was hoping that it would be a little closer,

especially because we haven't talked much about all the Senate races, but Colin Allred is also running against Ted Cruz in Texas, and I have a sneaking suspicion that if the margin is that big in Texas with Donald Trump that Colin Allred's got a little bit. I'm going to hold out hope for Colin Allred. He's a former NFL player, a member of Congress, who's trying to move to the upper chamber. I'm going to hold out hope.

Member of the Congress of Black Caucus. I'm going to hold out hope that he can still, because we have seen those split ballots. And I'll say Texas is another state that they keep promising. Texas is going to be purple. It's going to swing purple. We have yet to see that. Every cycle we think it's going to go purple, and we haven't seen it.

So I'm actually not as surprised that Texas may go for Donald Trump again tonight. Absolutely. I think some people, you know, wonder about that and the possibility of that happening just because Texas literally has, you know, the largest, you know, black population in the country. And yet, you know, that does not necessarily translate into the numbers. Demography does not equal destiny. That's a thing that we know and that we have seen. And so Texas, while I think certainly Democrats have made inroads, Beto O'Rourke came very close when he challenged

Ted Cruz. And so now you have Colin Albrecht certainly within striking distance, but we don't know what's going to happen with that race yet. It also punctuates, though, Erin, the Latino community as well, because so often you hear the Latino vote, right? And when you disaggregate these communities, there are more than 20 countries of origin. There are different perspectives. It's like if you put all the black people in the world, black folks from Kenya, black folks from America, black folks from West Africa. They're not a modelist either. Right.

Even here in America, you know, a black person who grew up in L.A. versus somebody who grew up in Georgia is very different. And so in Texas, even within the Mexican population, there are some very conservative Mexicans. I mean, people's views on immigration are not to be assumed. Right. Yeah. You know, and I want to say, speaking of immigration are not to be assumed. Right. Yeah. You know, and I want to say, speaking of immigration, Ohio was just called for Donald Trump as well.

17 electoral votes. That's not super surprising because J.D. Vance, of course, comes from Ohio. But I bring that up because some of the nastiest rhetoric we've heard about immigrants so far. Yeah. Hell, I would say in a decade was what what they've said about folks in Springfield, what they alleged about folks in Springfield. So I just wanted to punctuate this moment with hate can still win in some of these states, but Erin, what are you projecting overall? Will hate win or will love? I mean, I think that that is.

Will we turn the page? I mean, I don't know, right? I mean, I am not going to sit up here and Nate Silver this thing. I'm not going to do it. What's your gut say? My gut says that it's going to be close and that we likely will not have a result tonight. But that does not mean that there was cheating. That does not mean that anything has been stolen.

It means that the votes are being counted. It means that millions and millions of Americans participated in this election. And we need to see, we need to let democracy play out. Like that is what I can say for sure. I have a question for you, Erin, down here. Hi, I'm Lauren. So with everything that happened there that we saw in that state and all the rhetoric and all that that was being spewed and the fact that, you know, it's going to Trump, what could kamala have done like in the lead up to this point that could have changed that like well is there any like i

thought she they're echoing everything that was said right like she's on these platforms she's talking about it and it's still they still lean toward trump like what do you how would you have advised her differently well i mean i'm I'm definitely not in the campaign advising business. Just from your perspective. No, but what I will say is, you know, it really was not about what the vice president could or could not have done in Ohio, right? I mean, we are talking about the former president being somebody who has been in our national politics for the better part of a decade, right?

He is baked in with his voters. His base is locked in. There really is not much that he could do or say for the people who support him that would turn them away. Even a hateful racist hoax about legal Haitian immigrants is not going to turn them away. And so that was not a deal breaker for his voters. We know that. He won Ohio in the past. The issue of abortion was also an issue that was on

the ballot in Ohio, literally had been on the ballot. They recently had, you know, the abortion ban that was put in place there. There was also a question about whether that was going to mobilize women in that state. So I'd be very curious to see what the gender gap was in Ohio. But yeah, I mean, for his voters, something like that racist hoax that came up, that was not something that was going to turn them away. And they were not really voters that the vice president was really going to be able to persuade and certainly was not going to be able to persuade them by saying that his hateful rhetoric was something that they shouldn't support. I mean, he said many hateful, sexist, racist things over the years that have not been a

deal breaker for those voters. Is anybody else nervous looking at these numbers? Because I'm getting nervous. I'm just telling you. Yeah. It's too much red for me. I want to do. But that's how the map fills in.

I know. I know. But I'm just nervous now. I want to do. God is the best author and finisher. Right. There you go. I want to do something. God is the best author and finisher. Right. There you go. I want to do something to their nerves.

Regardless of how it goes. I see the Iotas, the SG Rose. Yes. Or the homecoming court. No, it's not the homecoming court. It is some more D9 students who missed it on the first run. They're going to come and make us feel a little better. They're going to make us feel a little better.

How do you think the Harris-Walls team is feeling right now? You know. You're in the war room right now. What are you thinking? I am going to presume that they feel joyful because they're not far from us. They're just feet away from us somewhere here on Howard's campus. It's still early in the evening. I don't think they had the expectation that we would know results tonight.

She is in the home of her alma mater. So I don't think that they share in this nervous energy. You know, I don't have nervous energy. Envy, I understand why you do. I think that's, you know, part of the evening. But I'm optimistic about tonight, and I hope that they are as well. And look, I mean, they knew that this was going to be a brawl. They knew that this was going to be a close election.

She had 107 days to put on a campaign, and she has come with a striking distance of the White House. I mean, that certainly was not what the former president expected, right? He certainly is wondering why he's even on the ballot with Kamala Harris. But here they are, neck and neck. I mean, this thing could not be closer. Are they neck and neck, though? Well, so far.

Well, right now. As of right now. Right. And right now, Michigan is too close to call. Pennsylvania is too close to call. We always knew it was going to be. You just got 10 more. It went up.

Yeah. Yeah, but that map is filling in the way that that map fills in. All of that is mostly southern states. You have the entire west coast that have, I mean, California. California is a huge. Is it 40? How many is it? What you're saying is this looks about white.

No, it's not. Guys, they're looking at the map of all the states that are put in. So they have the red and the blue, and they're getting nervous right now because I'm explaining to them what they're looking at. It was always going to come down to about seven states. But you know what? We have more of seven people because the Divine Nine have joined us again. We're going to give you all a mic to tell us who you are, where you're from,

and how you're feeling just really quickly. We're going to pass the mic down real fast. We're going to start down here. Andrew, you got a mic? Andrew is not listening or he can't hear me. Everybody's going to answer this? Just real quick, just like we did a little roll call. You guys are going to pass that mic down and they'll pass this one.

Really quick. First name, where you from? Okay, Trayvon Mullen. I'm from Plainfield, New Jersey. Alright. Fallon Gill. I'm from Chicago, Illinois. Xavier Sterling from Colorado Springs, Colorado. Alright. Morgan Durham, a graduating senior from Michigan. I heard that.

Destiny Pridgen from North Carolina. Hello. I'm Iki Jabril, and I'm from Omaha, Nebraska. I'm Yasmin Edmondson, and I'm from Jersey by way of Brooklyn. Jersey. I'm Mackenzie Campbell from PG County, Maryland. Michael Thomas, and I'm from Detroit, Michigan. My name is Cole Walton, and I'm from Jop County, Maryland. Michael Thomas and I'm from Detroit, Michigan. My name is Cole Walton

and I'm from Joppa, Maryland. I'm Owen Garrick and I'm from Oakland, California. My name is Wesley Wilkins and I'm from Suffolk, Virginia. We love it. Good job. Divine Nine, we're happy to see you all tonight. We are grateful for you

coming on with us. We'll get back to this show. I like your Madam Vice President, Pamela Harris. All right now. All right. While they stand here and watch, Aaron, we thank you so much for coming on with us. Listen, it's been fun hanging out. I mean, y'all are doing the work out here, and I know the work continues even beyond tonight because whoever is present on the other side of this,

we have got to keep paying attention to how people govern and how the agenda that the folks that are listening to y'all, how that agenda is fulfilled. But I know y'all are going to keep holding them accountable. I don't even have to worry about that. So y'all are on the case. So that means that is a victory for democracy. And I just salute all of y'all are on the case. So that means that is a victory for democracy. And I just salute all of y'all. We salute you.

Well, keep holding us accountable until they start jailing journalists. Right. Lennard is spiraling fast. You guys, but I can't tell you. That's a legit concern, though. It is. It's not a real. He already said it.

I know. I know. I tend to believe. God see me. I can't go there. We got to figure this out. But he literally earlier, Lennard, was like, it's going to be a blowout. I ain't say all that now.

See, you exaggerate. I ain't say all that. I told y'all, my grandma prayed before we got here. We good. Look at me looking at you. Oh, boy. Don't start. Because my grandma watching.

Say it. Don't you start. Leave it. But, you know, there is something to that. And just before you leave, Erin, you wrote a column talking about that very thing, about Donald Trump's fear and persecution, I would say, could be a strategy. Why can't Joy? Absolutely.

Yeah. I mean, Joy, we know that Joy has been a radical strategy for black people, for black women in this country. And so the idea that that was front and center in this race should be no surprise to anyone. And pushing through the fear and the concerns that so many black folks in this country had, because this election is existential for us. Yeah. Right? So many black folk, people of color, women, LGBTQ plus people feeling like everything is on the line for them, depending on the outcome of this election.

And yet for us to literally be here, you know, at this rally and just hearing and seeing the joy just even as the returns are coming in and we know that people are anxious, we know that people are fearful as they watch that map just as you're doing over there, Charlemagne, like still being able to do that with joy. That is, that is, I mean, you know, that is, that is definitely among the most American things that we've seen in our community. Can we sprinkle some of the nart, then a little bit of joy on nart? Oh, I'm just, regardless of who wins, I think America does have to find a way to come together because, you know, one thing I'm realizing is none of this matters, right?

The sexism don't matter. The racism don't matter. The anti-Semitism don't matter. The homophobia don't matter. So what are we going to do as a community, as a society, knowing that all of this really does exist among us and we can't be delusional about it anymore? We've never been delusional, I don't think. I think that there was a time where I felt more hopeful. It wasn't that I thought that it was completely erased, but I do think when Barack Obama won in 2008 and when he won again in 2012,

I had more hope than I did when Donald Trump won in 2016. When Donald Trump won in 2016, I was like, who are these people that I have to work with, that I have to consult with? I think it was more shocking. I don't think anybody ever thought. Speaking of Trump, he just won. Jesus. Breaking MSNBC, Donald Trump wins Kansas.

Yeah, I have Kansas. I didn't name it yet because I was expecting it. But you're right. He did win Kansas. Yes. I will just say, though. No, no, no. I'm just saying because you're right.

But I was just like, eh, it's Kansas. My Twitter feed got me up to date. I love it. It looks about white. It's okay right now. It looks about white. And it still looks like the Confederates that wanted us to be represented with three-fifths. The point is, I don't know how I am going to feel tomorrow or on Saturday if this election is called on for Trump.

I cannot even fathom it. I don't want to consider that again. How do y'all look at the black voters that said they're not voting for Kamala and they voted for Trump? How do you look at those family members? I don't have no family members like that. I mean, there's people. Oh, brought up family members.

Not real family members. No, Angela, I don't even know them people. You talked about all the Trump people. You're like, people in my family have said things like this. Maybe you changed their minds. But I remember specifically. Maybe I'm in real family members. No, Angela, I don't even know no people. You talk about all the Trump people. You're like, people in my family have said things like this. Maybe you changed their minds. But I remember specifically. Maybe I meant extended family, too. My godbrother did, but he.

He voted for Trump. No, no, no, no, no. He was saying that he thought some of the stuff that Trump did was positive. And then he saw how they were talking about me. I didn't mean personal family. You meant the black family. The straight up black family. You know, I got to tell you, I have not met a lot of black Trump supporters.

I just haven't. I've met people who said that they like STEMIs or they like PPP until their friends got arrested. Or, you know, like I've met those folks or that they thought that he was right on immigration. Maybe that they weren't going to vote. Or maybe they weren't voting for her, but then they weren't going to vote for anybody. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they're large enough in number, Envy.

I think that was such a false media narrative that so many people globbed onto and elevated and perpetuated. It's like, whoa, time out, you guys. These are random sound bites that nobody's bothering to ask a follow-up. Nobody's bothering to say, well, are you registered to vote? Did you vote in the last election? Are you registered to vote this cycle? I would be very curious to see the

exit polls. We already know that the GOP has gotten 12% of the black male vote specifically last cycle. There is no evidence that that has grown in number or gotten smaller in number. So I'll wait to see some of the exit polls. Isn't that normal, though? It's like 8 to 15% of all black people conservative?

And again, the question is what do white people do in this election? Because white people are the Americans that are voting for Trump, voting for Republicans in the majority. The extent to which his support is eroded among white Americans, not the extent to which he's attracting other people whose votes have had to mitigate. Right. People who are white people who are voting for Trump, like that is the point. But, you know, Charlamagne,

you also make a really good point about the country coming back together and our politics being about more than just who wins or loses, right? But about our shared values and our shared sense of fate, which seems to kind of feel lost in all of this, right? Like, how do you, how do we really get back to that on the other side of this election? But that's difficult when the other side has been so rude.

Hugely difficult. So divided. And so many people who it seems, you know, just really don't care about their fellow Americans, right? Like how does that sense of community, how do you begin to foster that? I believe that's where the pessimism comes into play now. Because if you're looking at this map right now, you're like, damn. Yeah.

We really are divided. But you know what's crazy, though? When I went in to vote today, because earlier I was a little pessimistic, and I went in to vote, and the women who were there that was helping out with everything, their energy, I was like, it just felt like, it felt so good. It made me feel like, okay, we got this. And then things change or whatever, so the feeling, you know, changes a little bit.

But I'm thinking, like, when people go into the voting polls and they get that feeling, I hope that that, in real life, like you were saying, right, like, you don't run into, like, 1,001 people who support Trump every single day in your real life. That's right. But the media makes you feel like that. In real life, when I walked into that poll, I'm like, I hope everyone is getting this. So they feel good and they feel energized.

You know what I mean? I love what you're saying because we have made voting sound like such a burden. No. We have made voting sound, you know, people were scared to go to the polls. They were scared of what might happen when they got to the precinct. You know what happened when I went to my precinct? Every single poll worker that was there was a black woman. Me too!

I think. And it was like the black black women. Oh yeah. They had the hard candy. I didn't ask for any. They clapped when he came in. It was good. It was a festive, it was a positive experience. Yeah.

Did they just call another state? they are Trump just got Tim Moore I don't know who we want. We're gonna get there and here we know you got all Yeah Yeah, I offered him mine he is focused on on the maps. He put the glasses on twice, took them off three times. Well, you know, while Andrew gets his headphones on, I think that's because he's so used to watching these maps, you know, from his own campaign. Okay, yeah, that's what he's doing.

He really has a unique understanding of what we're seeing tonight. Yeah. As you've been over there studying, Andrew. Tell us, Black John King, what's happening? What's happening with the electoral college just now? So there are reports that are coming in right now around the early, I mean, the 10 p.m. closing states. I haven't been able to assess all of those. But let me just describe for a minute, because some people may be confused by what they are seeing around some of the states that have been called.

Some of y'all are. Break down a purple state, too, because you mentioned, Tiffany, you mentioned purple states and some people are saying, well, what is a purple state? I know red, I know blue. Yeah. But in breaking down the layman's terms. Well, the purple states are the states that don't go predictably Democrat or predict a Republican in any statewide race.

So they flip back and forth between Democratic top of the ticket and Republican top of the ticket. But others may have heard this term, the red mirage, and it's less known than we know about the blue wave and that kind of thing. But the red mirage, which is connected to then the blue shift, is the early part of the night, the results that come in tend to favor the Republican Party because of the way in which, because of the order at which

votes are counted. So the early counting of the votes show, may show a Trump lead in certain places. And then the reason why they call the red mirage is because a mirage doesn't really exist. It leads you to believe you're going to get that red thing. But as the night goes on and the counting continues, a blue shift starts to happen. And that state goes from looking red or, you know, I think some of the networks tonight are using a darker hue of red to suggest leaning Republican into a blue column. And it's not because there's any cheating that's been done. It's that they've added more votes to the tally.

And as they add more votes, large deals that were either mailed in or submitted as provisional ballots that get counted. When they get counted and qualified, they move into the total. And that total then moves what looked like when you went to bed, a state that was red, and you wake up the next morning and that state happens to be blue. It's not because anybody stole any votes. It's because more votes were counted and then the calculation into the total of those votes have then moved that state to a blue column. So don't be discouraged when you're looking at it and say, oh, I just knew we'd do better. Wait.

That's why we warn people, don't assume that the election is over the day that we vote. Give it time for all the votes to be counted, and it looks different. Well, I'm going to tell you something. Speaking of movement. They need a logo three right now. Let's just scoot down. Don't take your headphones out. Scoot down.

You ever been in an arena? You ever been in an arena when a team was getting blown out? That's how I feel right now. But that's because it's all, like, think of, if you look at the actual map, right, the red states are actually mostly in the south. Those polling locations have closed. You're seeing projections even when there's 0.0 of the votes counted. So this is usual.

This is absolutely usual. Remember, we haven't seen California yet. But it's not just California yet. Washington, Oregon, Nevada. I think we'll get Nevada. While we're moving down, we are bringing on our good friend and brother rocking his Howard sweatshirt. What did 2020 look like?

Quentin James. It looks very similar. I can't get it. This is Quentin James, the collective pack, also vote to live, a dear partner of ours at Native Land Pod, and I know he's happy to be in joint conversation with the Breakfast Club. This is not on, friends. Quentin's mic on.

Can we put Quentin's mic on? There we go. Quentin. Yes. We need some hope because people spiraling real time. Some people spiraling real time. No, we're good. We're good.

I didn't say y'all. Talk to me, Quentin. I was talking about Lenard. Please help Lenard. Look at his kneecap up and everything. It's early, right? So we know a lot of votes are still going to be counted tonight from Election Day. We saw overperformance today from our folks showing up to vote.

Kind of procrastinated, but they did show up. So I think we're going to see these numbers kind of shift throughout the night. And as we told everybody, you've got to be patient, right? It's going to take a while to count all these votes. We want every vote counted. We know there are people still in line voting right now in states like Arizona and Nevada. So let's be patient. Count every vote. I think we're going to be alright.

So clearly, you know, the predicted of a dramatic win by either party, there's no state that has fallen one way so far that suggests a dramatic win by anybody. Everything looks on par. Everything is pretty much on par.

I think people have higher hopes for Georgia. I don't know where the most populated centers are with their total tally. So around Atlanta and in the counties surrounding Atlanta, what percentage of that vote is already in. If we're talking about 40, 30 percent, maybe even 40, 50 percent of the vote, know that you have half the state's population of the entire state of Georgia is roughly populated in this area and just around it. So we need to let those votes get in and be counted. Again, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Pennsylvania. I just want to, on this point, one of the things that Tim brought up earlier, too, and I think it's so important to contextualize the vote in our folks, pushing forward anyway, being resilient anyway. A Philadelphia city commissioner just said that several polling places were targeted by bomb threats.

We knew about that in Georgia today. We heard that it was, you know, most likely from a Russian actor. These bomb threats in Philadelphia going right to the heart of where black folks are and where elections can be decided. How have you seen that intimidation work against our folks or not at all? I mean, listen, it's an age old trick. We knew this was a possibility. It's very disheartening to see it happen in real life. I think, listen, it's an age-old trick. We knew this was a possibility. It's very disheartening to see it happen in real life. In 2024. In 2024.

We've got to remember, right, this is, again, the same tactics used against our people throughout the 60s, this kind of terrorism. The thing that's interesting is there weren't bomb threats in Wyoming or Nebraska. That's right. They've been in Georgia, been in Philadelphia, been in places where we know black voters are going to show up and vote. And so I think that also is a little bit of a tell to me that people are afraid of our folks coming out to vote. That's right.

They're going to resort to those tactics. But, again, I've got to give it up to black voters. Before today, over 50% of the black women who were registered to vote in North Carolina, in Georgia, they'd already voted, right? And so I think we're going to see a record-breaking turnout from black women tonight. And we got to recognize that and give it up to black voters, in spite of all these threats that we're seeing. I do have to ask, you know, we talk about Kamala Harris so much, and she didn't have the time, of course, Trump had. Is there anything that she should have done that she didn't get a chance to or that you wish you would have seen her do?

Anything at all? I mean, look, in campaigns you have three resources, right? Time, money, and people. She didn't have a lot of time. Right? She had a lot of money, had a lot of people. But the time issue, I think, is the only thing I would look at as something at her disadvantage. We kind of heard reports today of concerns around black voter turnout in Philadelphia, for instance. She didn't have the time to really dig in there.

Again, a 100-day campaign has been phenomenal, but we've never seen anything like this in presidential history before. So that's the one piece. It's just the time issue. I don't think she could have spent, again, more money here or there or had more people organized here or there. The clot. Can I tell you guys one piece of good news? She just got 10. It's not even about... It's actually from

what Tiff would normally say is the dick of the country. There is a Florida state attorney who was suspended by Ron DeSantis by the name of Monique Worrell, who has won her seat back. So that is one piece of good news in black history in Florida to commend and to be proud of.

I'm the only one celebrating it. The shout-out to Monique. Thanks, Lauren. High five, Sid. I want to say to Envy, though, because the way that you're posing the question, it sounds, you and Lenard are both like, you know, you sound like you're not as hopeful. And I just want to encourage you guys.

I know they're both looking. My cousin says to me, what y'all cold? Why they sitting like that? That girl is so high over here. Well, because y'all are saying like. DJ stop playing the music. That's number one. There was an energy that was here about 30, 40 minutes ago that's not here no more.

No, I feel for that energy. Go turn it back up. I think it that energy. Go turn it back up. I think it has changed. Go turn it back up. You know, we need a spiritual music. Yes, but it's quiet because they're looking at the map. They're watching the projections. Right, and I just want to encourage you guys.

I need to stop looking at the projections. The night is early. I need to stop looking at them. The night is early. Okay. Charlotte's there. What they getting? He's making me feel down.

Look, he's there. What they getting? Real quiet. Real quiet. He's making me feel bad. Feel good. So if we wonder why when we wake up and the Republicans who are right now rejoicing are then sad tomorrow, you can understand that if you're in this mood because you're expecting these things to look a certain way, they go to bed with it assured that it looks a certain way.

And then as the votes get counted, they wake up tomorrow and they say the Democrats stole it. How did they win a race? I think the only reason why, like, their reaction is probably how some people are feeling because the way that Kamala came in and just, like, she bullied it, like, for, like, so fast. Like, the first two weeks, first day, first two days. I think people expected to see that instant, like, gratification right now. It is. And they are learning politics. Yeah, right.

They learned it. Like, they blew the stream back here.. And they are learning politics. Yeah, right? They're learning. They blew the stream back here. They are locked in. This is exactly how the process is supposed to work. Let me ask you this. You know what I would like to know? Colorado was called for Kamala, expected, but just noting. I think Iowa.

Did Iowa get called? Iowa is not called on my screen. Right now, Donald Trump is up 51 to 46. I really would like to know where was Biden Trump this time in 2020. That's what I would like to know. Well, we didn't know a lot at this time in 2020. We took a whole week, practically, for us to get to the point where we thought we'd know the president. I remember we did coverage that night.

We did. And we went to bed believing the Democrat was going to lose. Yeah, we were. We woke up the next morning. Our whole set also crashed. The whole set. We thought we went to bed and that we had lost. So it looked like this country.

Yes. I don't have the whole country, but I do know at this point in 2020, Donald Trump was doing better than he was right now in Georgia. Right? So he's underperforming his 2020 numbers in Georgia at this point compared to 2020. We just need some music and some weed. And also, too, y'all said Vaughn County isn't in, right? Not yet? Vaughn County?

You said who? No, no. We can even get to the ones that we ordered in the hookah. We all be all right, y'all. I do got to ask a question, too. You know, when you look at some of these elections in these other countries, right, it's not as long. It's a lot less than what we do here. And I feel like, do you think there should be a cap on the amount of money raised when it comes to this?

I mean, because, I mean, they're raising over a billion dollars each. They're spending money on all types of frivolous stuff. Do you think that we should have a cap on the amount of money that we raise and the amount of time and why? Yes. Well, a lot of countries do that. France, for example. Canada. Yes, Canada.

And where you have a limited time of even campaigning. To your point, the money in politics, which, you know, Quentin obviously runs the collective pack, which is a part of raising money. But the donor class, as we've talked about on this show frequently, is largely white and male. And you can really influence how campaigns and candidates feel and how they move and things that they say. I think if there's a limit, or even if they're publicly funded, you would get down to the meat of policy and what actually matters. Not all of this kabuki theater, not all of this glitter. A lot of money goes on media buys. Oh, we know.

Yes. You say frivolous, but I don't know how frivolous that is because that is how a lot of Americans consume information. That's how they get news, unfortunately. It's not a lot of readers, but we have a lot of watchers. I also think if you are looking at the public funding of some of these campaigns, the process looks different, right? Like we've talked about this on Native Land Pod about having audiences in debates.

But you get so much applause that you're missing what the candidates are putting forth to the audience in a very serious way. So, yes, definitely I'm for limiting the amount of time for campaigns and also limiting the money that goes into it. I also think it exhausts voters. I think it exhausts voters. The fatigue. Absolutely.

In and out. Exhausts us. And if we had a season that we can look forward to where we know it's going to start and there's an end to that season. I'm exhausted right now. Well, don't be too exhausted yet. You've got a couple more hours of coverage. Good, sir.

I want to come back to you really quick, Quentin, one with some bad news and one with some good news. The bad news is that even though we'd hoped for a miracle and a Hail Mary in Texas, with 77% of the precincts reporting, Colin Allred is lost to Ted Cruz, the incumbent, who is really just not worth a damn, ladies and gentlemen. However, in Maryland, Angela also Brooks has become the second black woman senator to join Lisa Platt Rochester. And you've got to feel good about that, Clinton.

Oh, look. There you go. Good. Well, let Clinton have this moment. Oh, go, Clinton. Sorry. I just had to work really hard on this. No, I mean, look, it's historic to put, again, two black women in the U.S. Senate in one election.

Yes. We know the opportunity that her being there is going to provide to so many families throughout Maryland, but also to so many black candidates around the country. Right. Seeing it as a possibility that I can run statewide and be victorious is incredible. And so, again, they're calling out. We're leading in Arizona. Yeah.

We're leading in Arizona. Again, let's be patient tonight. But, again, let's applaud Angela Osselbrooks and the amazing campaign that she ran. Absolutely. Being incredibly outspent, to your point. You know, when it comes to black candidates, we have a tough time raising money. But that's why you started Collective Pack, and that's what I want you to talk about because, Tiff, to your point, and Envy, to your point, is there too much money in politics?

Yes, but while it stays, they come up with a really tremendous solution, and you guys funded people from the top of the ticket all the way down ballot. Talk about that work. Yeah, exactly. So we launched the Collective Pack in 2016 to really build black political power by raising money. We know money in politics is so important. So if you're not funding our candidates, then we can't expect them to go out there and compete dollar for dollar against everybody else. So we had over 100 candidates on the ballot today.

Hopefully most of them will be victorious. But again, this money in politics thing is a real issue. And as a people, we've got to organize our money in our politics so that our folks don't get bought and sold by other communities. That's a really big issue for us moving forward. That's right. Well, we are so grateful that you joined us tonight. Quick, Dave, give Dave a round of applause. Welcome to Howard.

Welcome to Howard. Thank you for having us. We appreciate it. You know you might have a little bit of beat down there with Envy. No, it's all love. It's all love. Okay, good. Today, no game for us. It's all love. Okay, good. Today, no game plan.

It's love. That's right. I love it. Thanks, Q. Thank y'all. We'll see you. And Andrew is down here being our black John King, so don't let him have his Mohini pin.

I will say, too, after the first night. I'm tired. You tired? The first night, Trump did call it in 2020. So clearly something must have been happening like this to where he felt confident. They thought they were going to win. We need to get rid of the Electoral College, but I will. You're telling me that, Andrew.

I need you to keep telling me. Yeah, I mean, it's true. But here's the thing, you guys. I do think it's important to note because normally we do talk about the distinction between what's happening with the Electoral College versus the popular vote. Right now, because of the number of southern states that have been called, Donald Trump is ahead. He's 42 million-plus votes to Kamala Harris's 37-plus million votes. So there is a disparity there as well.

I do think that gap will significantly close as those West Coast states start coming in and more of the Midwest start coming in. They said that Pennsylvania is too close to call. Yeah, how we looking for Pennsylvania? There's only about 51% of the vote in Pennsylvania reported. And Michigan is too close to call. That's it. The polls close at 8 o'clock.

Where are you leaning right now because I saw something. It's slightly Trump. Okay, because I saw that and I didn't want to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I don't want to be the one to say it. It's slightly Trump, but it should be at this stage of the game. It's the larger, more populous cities that get added into the vote. Like has Philly been counted?

Not completely. Urban centers take a little longer because they're so large. And then from that, they'll open up early ballots, which they were not able to begin counting until tonight when the polls closed. Oh, really? And other states, my state, they open them and they start to roll them in. So those early numbers, that's how you can have a whole state like Florida, the third largest in the country, produce its winners and losers in the first hour,

hour and a half after the polls close. So for Pennsylvania, anybody that voted early, they're not allowed to open those ballots until 8 o'clock? Until the polls close. Wow. Correct. So as those get calculated and added in, you see shifts in the outcome of that state. This West Wing report says presidential race thus far shows no surprises on the map. Put it to your mouth.

For Harris, Pennsylvania looks better. Razor thin leads in Michigan, Wisconsin. Georgia is concerning for her. Virginia not a swing state. Shaking and expected. Iowa more competitive than expected. You'll recall the sell support. The bright line being no surprises.

Were we looking out for Iowa? Yeah. Yeah. Iowa is now. It's closer than it should. I'm seeing, so something I'm seeing on Twitter, and you guys can confirm this over there, is Trump in Iowa. He will win Iowa.

I didn't expect that. You think so? Yeah. And I also, but the fact that she is competitive in Iowa. Says a lot. At this stage, she should not is competitive in Iowa at this stage, she should not be competitive in a state like Iowa. Iowa has been solidly Republican for the last three presidential races,

took a dip into our land with Obama, and then came right back out, and it's been reliably. It is not critical to her. It's not even counted by her team as being necessary for the electoral college. It's off of 94%. Oh, yeah, Iowa is called. For Republicans. Yes, for Trump. And it electoral college. It's off of 94%. Oh, yeah, Iowa is called. For Republicans. Yes, for Trump.

And it will be. It's expected. Well, I was hoping that it might be. Well, the poll that came out was. It's also Iowa's 94% white. It is. Yeah. But it's also reliably Republican.

So is Oregon, and she should win Oregon. But we were just hopeful because, you know, they had some reports earlier. They said the, I can't think of the pollster's name. The most reliable one in the state. Yeah, they said she always gets it right. She called it for – well, she actually didn't call it for Kamala. She said that it was very, very close and it was leaning towards her, but within the margin of error.

So, yes, we are now – Man, what in the hell is happening? Well, they – They just went dead silent. They're watching CNN. Right. If you said they're counting votes. They're counting votes and they're waiting

for the votes to be called. They're watching the screen. And turn the music on. Well, for the people who are watching us right now, I do want to set the scene for them. So there is still a sea of people who are very joyful. So we hear waves of applause and cheers as they have CNN projected on the screen. So as John King is projecting states or showing where Vice President Harris might be leading, that's when you hear cheers.

So as we get that breaking news, we will be sure to share it with you guys at home. But it is still a very joyful time here. Tiffany, point out the joy for me. Because Charlamagne and Nick are watching. I'm looking for it. I'm so glad you're going to see this, Tiff. This is a troll. I want to be the joy.

Wait, he turned his – look how he turned all the way around. Hey, Charlamagne, Envy, these folks are as novice to the process as any of us. Many of them are students. That's true. They're looking at these returns. They feel a certain way about what they want it to look like, and it doesn't reflect what they feel like it should look like. But if we were broadcasting to them, I'd say the same thing,

which were hold your horses, calm down, wait, and be patient. Because when these votes are counted, you'll see a better reflection of what you thought the earlier part of the night should have looked like. But it didn't. But can we take a snapshot of this, though? Because there is, and I know you guys can't see them all. Hopefully they're doing audience shots there. But there's a sea of black people waving the American flag on this historically black university. And just the dichotomy of that, right,

that what that flag represents and has represented for us on this campus of black people when America does still stand poised to elect the first black woman to lead the country, I just think this is a moment in history. And y'all are down there feeling a way. No, we went down there. I feel joyful. We went toall are down there feeling away. I feel joyful. We went to the crowd and there's tears. There's press over here. There's alumni. There's students. Me and Lauren actually

stuck into the alumni and students section. We didn't sneak. I had called us They kicked us out at first. They kicked us out at first. We had to go back. But then there's alumni on the side and then there's just DMV residents. And they're super-duper excited. But like you said, right now they're watching CNN.

They're waiting for these numbers to be announced. You just got some more. See that? You didn't announce that one. Yeah, what are you doing, Lennard? She got two. It's 198-112, y'all. 198-112, yeah.

Okay, I got to figure it out. But remember, there's a lot of states that still have to come in. So that number will flip drastically. Absolutely. I'm not even tripping. None of the battlegrounds are really in yet. You know, you still got North Carolina, Pennsylvania. You still want to see what Georgia does.

Well, let's talk about something in North Carolina that might make y'all happy. They had a gubernatorial candidate. It was a brother named Mark Robinson. Yeah, he lost. He did, in fact, lose. No surprise. No surprise. No surprise. So far, our viewers, you may recall,

Mark Robinson was the lieutenant governor running for governor, and he was the black. Showing his ass and looking for some ass. Literally. Literally. That's the one that had transgenders on his laptop or something? No. Is that what he had?

He said that he found. It's like Africa porn or something. Africa porn? I'm talking about the name of the site. No, I think that's the name of the site. I don't know. You guys look up the site. Angela's not making that up.

I'm looking it up. I'm going to look it up. What are we talking about? She's not making it up. Wait, excuse me. Africa porn? Yes. I need one more word other than Africa porn.

Mark Robinson. How does that fare for her in North Carolina since the governor won? The Democratic governor. It should help her. It gives you an indication of how voters are voting. Yeah. So they declared his loss, but again, he has become an embarrassment

to the Republican Party. So this is where you might see some of those split ballots. He wouldn't be embarrassed if he was white. I think that was some of the things that he was saying and doing were, I think, universally deplorable. But I'll say this,

Charlamagne, because you brought up something, and I think this speaks to it, and you talked about how do we come together after the country no matter who wins. And I have to say, and this may be controversial to some people, but I actually have no interest in coming together. I really don't. I have no interest in meeting a bigot in the middle. I'm not trying to understand.

I know very well their perspective. And if our disagreement, as the saying goes, is rooted in you denying my humanity, I'm not trying to convince you of such things. I say, yes, stay over there. And I respect the honesty. I would rather you look me in my face and tell me how you feel than to smile in my face and feel the way that I know you feel. So I think that is something that we have to have a serious conversation in this country about because we're not at a place where everybody's like, okay, guys, you guys won this time. We're all going to go back to our corners, even Stevens.

No, I think we are – the Civil War did not begin with the first firing, you know, of a pistol. It began long before that. There was this court, and I think we're seeing something like that happen in this country. And then when you broaden that out, Envy, and this is key, when the United States is at war with itself, on the global stage, we look incredibly weak. And so we've already seen threats to our country this cycle. And so I'd imagine Russia might have company this go around in Iran, in China, all

empires fall. America has been a superpower for the long time because of us, because of our bodies. We created this superpower. We are primed right now to be taken out. So this election not only has consequence for policy here domestically, it has consequences for our global standing. And that's a very serious thing. I agree with you. If I was a political strategist and call me naive, I wouldn't want to just chalk up what we're seeing with the Trump thing to just bigotry, to just racism, to just sexism. I really want to see what he's doing that is moving people and has been moving people

for the past decade. And you don't think that's racism and sexism? I think it's got to be a little bit more than that. Or it might be what are Democrats not doing, you know? That's what I would want to know. I can't just say, hey, everybody's racist, everybody's a bigot. I think that that is very true. I think we've heard from our own friends, if we're super honest,

even in our own conversations, right, about where there's shortcomings or where we don't feel represented inside of a big tent you know it's like even when you talk about um the way that consultants are used or you talk about the way that candidates have to fight to be seen even in andrew's experience andrew wasn't just they didn't decide that andrew was the darling of the democratic Party, fought hard AF to be at the top of the ticket to get out of the primary and to be the Democratic Party's nominee for governor of Florida. That wasn't easy. You fought to the last day. And the media had really called it for the white woman.

I forget her name. Wynn Graham. So about let's recognize that half the country isn't voting. Half the people in the country who are qualified to vote don't vote. They just don't exercise it. So your point around I want to be with you because I wanted badly to be there in 2016 when I thought my neighbors and everybody who I trusted that was white betrayed me and don't give a damn about who I am and so on and so forth. But the lived experience is much more nuanced than that. We all, we walk this earth very differently between people.

So I can't say and resolve that an election is decided just that way. I think Trump reaches at something, well, that's not even that clever. If you are a person and you don't have a perfect life and therefore you have grievances, Trump has taught you how to complain and make no apologies about it. And to find competing people to blame,

even if it's not true. He complains and then points you to the people who are responsible for your pain. And they're the people who are brown and they're black and they're women and they're everybody that's not like you. And so if we were able to run a race trying to build community off of people who got complaints about how fucked up shit is, we'd win too.

I mean, you know, we'd lead, we'd connect with people by making that the case that groceries are too high. This is happening. This is happening. Jobs are being shipped here. And that group is responsible for why you're not living your best life. That's not rocket science politics. It's a politics of grievance. They win campaigns.

And sometimes that kind of politics loses campaigns. Well, to that point, Andrew, I agree with you. But black people do have grievances. I agree. We do have a community that we point to, which is usually white supremacy, but we don't have elected officials that are willing to do that. We don't have elected officials that are

willing to challenge that system of white supremacy. Largely because... I don't know. I don't think that's true. They don't speak directly to a lot of stuff. And I'm not like... I remember when we did that interview that you sat in. With the congressman? Yeah, the congressman. Byron Donalds.

From? Florida. No. Byron Donalds. Maybe that was it. We had to push our elected officials to even say that America was a racist country. But that's a Republican conservative. If you're talking about Byron Donalds.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about Westmore. Oh. And I love him to death. I just felt like in all of his speaking, it was very much like high-level hope and love. And it wasn't – there were certain things that, like, he wouldn't even directly say, and I'm like, why? I actually agree with that.

But they have to win elections. Yeah, and they're – That's true. But the Republicans do – they can – But they run in different areas, and they're not up against the same things. We have to – when we're black in a progressive party or in a Democratic party, we have a double big tent to win over. We have to prove to white folks that we're worthy of election,

and we have to prove to black folks that we're down for the cause, and we have to prove to everybody else that we still see their grievances. White folks can come on and say, trust me, little brown person, little black person, I got you and I could probably solve your problems better than you. And if you don't trust me on this, that's fine because there's a whole bunch of white folks that will elect me to supersede whatever minority you are of the vote. What I would say is, what I took issue with is there are mayors in mostly black cities. There are members of the Congressional Black Caucus, some that are in majority-minority districts,

which means that it's mostly black or mostly black and brown or whatever. But there are also a lot of them who are in white folks' districts, too, who see issues similar to us, who might have that Black Lives Matter sign in their yard. And those folks will absolutely stand with us and say the hard thing. Barbara Lee, who is retiring now and will be replaced tonight by Latifah Simmons in Oakland, California, is one of those folks. She was the only person that was willing to stand up against the Iraq War, right? So we have those members, but they are few and far between, especially if they have leadership ambition. But your point is well taken. but they are few and far between, especially if they have leadership ambition. Jasmine Crockett represents the black district.

But your point is well taken. Right. I think a lot of people feel that way. I mean, even with the town hall and, you know, I thought it was great when Sharla was asking Kamala about, like, why can't you just say what you will do for black people? Call them a fascist. Yeah, why can't you just, you know, and she worked her way around it.

She answered it, but she still had to work her way around it. Because there is a way in which we still have to be in a politics where we're not the majority who elect you. In life. What do y'all think would happen, though, if there was a politician that was just like, you know what? Donald Trump. No, I mean on our side, though, that looks like us.

I want to tell you there are politicians who do that. That's not true. On a bigger ticket. They have a bigger ticket. That's not true. They had a bigger ticket. That's why people were mad at Barack Obama. That's why a lot of black people said that Barack Obama didn't, you know. But what you guys are talking about is at the presidential level. And politics is about addition, not subtraction.

So you do have to say things to appeal to a broad coalition of people. Or not say things to appeal to a broad coalition of people. Or not say things. Or not say things. But I would challenge you. There are tons of politicians who do call a thing a thing and speak very truthfully about it. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley is one of those people. Congresswoman Barbara Lee is one of those people. There are mayors that she referenced.

The problem is that if we could name check them, then they're not enough. I agree they're not enough. But we're talking about the majority experience with politics is you're listening to this politician and nothing they're saying is believable. That's your lived experience because I had these problems before you got there. You told me you'd solve them. I'm up to elect you again, and the same problems are still persistent. Now, one, I try to be honest with people.

Anytime I've ever run, it's shared that this doesn't change overnight. This system didn't get here overnight. If we're 400 years here and through a civil war that divided the country, came out of the civil war, had, what, less than 10 years of independence, our ability to run, and then the reconstruction laws got taken away from us, and then we get another 100 years and then we find ourselves in civil rights and we barely get out of that, that system does not change overnight. It was not invented overnight, and it requires a level of patience, sophistication, but also

stick-to-itiveness that we're not going to give up on that fight. And so it isn't dependent from one election to another. Movements require us to stay in them in order for them to move. But I think one of the things, like she said, it's like when you look at Barack Obama, right, and you say, wow, we finally got somebody that looks like me. He's going to do something for my community. He's going to stand up when the police officers kill the brother for no reason. He's going to stand up when he sees this.

He's going to stand up when he sees injustice. And he doesn't. Or when he did, he ended up with Skip Gates. What did they have him do, a beer summit? He called out racism for a black professor getting in his own house, getting arrested, put handcuffs. It went crazy when he said Trayvon Martin could be my son. And then what did he end up then with after that?

He's got to sit down with white folks as the president of the United States and then retract it practically and make it appear as if, no, your white son would have experienced the same thing. Not true. So when he stepped out, Democrats, Republicans, everybody in between clipped his knuckles and were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're not that man in this house. You've got to be something different.

But I think to Laura's point, because I understand what she was saying about Governor Westmore, the Democratic president. And I love him, by the way. I thought he was fired. I think he should be president at some point. But I was like, what? You're wrong. I completely understand.

I think you're right on. Right. I completely understand what you're saying. I think Governor Westmore is a wonderful person, wonderful human being. I also think he's very politically ambitious. And so he is setting his sights on I need to continue to build and attract people to my campaign. Sadly, in politics, it's too

common a thing where you can profess loudly on what you'll do for everybody else, and you whisper that shit to black folks. You profess loudly what you'll do for everybody else's issue, but you go behind the curtain and say, okay, but black folks, I got y'all once we get in office.

I think that you do have to challenge those and confront those systems. else's issue, but you go behind the curtain and say, okay, but black folks, I got y'all once we get in office. We did not. Right. I think that you do have to challenge those and confront those systems. I don't think we're there yet. We are 14%. But we are because she did it, right? Kamala. Vice President Harris did, but we're 14% of the population.

And so when you're talking about that level, you do have to make an appeal. Now, if Vice President Harris comes out and says, I'm for I'm the president for reparations. I believe, you know, I'm going to eradicate the criminal justice system. I am going to right the wrongs of housing. You know, black folks have been and this is her chief message that she's banging. She would not have the coalition that she did. She would not have Liz Cheney. I disagree. Well, the question I would put to you then is,

is it important for her to get in office and then hold her accountable to our agenda, or do we want her to go out there rah, rah, rah, and normalize speaking about our issues at the risk that she may not win an election? I want her to run the race on the campaign and on the issues that she's running. And the fact that she's the first candidate for president of the United States to have a black male agenda ever is progress. Obama didn't have a black man's agenda or a black woman's agenda. That doesn't mean he didn't do things that benefit our community,

but he did not feel at the time that he could run realistically for president of the United States with a black agenda. And said as much when asked about what's your black agenda, he said, my agenda is for the American people, and we all benefit from that. And that had to be good enough for us at the time. Kamala didn't do that. She actually took an added risk by saying black men calling us out. And not just that, not superficially. She then put the policy behind

it. It didn't begin and end with jail and drugs. I want to point out really quick. Just really, really quick. Nebraska is in, and I want to say this because I think this is significant. In 2020, Donald Trump

won four of the five, this is one of the, Donald Trump won four of the five. This is one of the states that split. Four of the five electoral votes in Nebraska tonight, Donald Trump won three of the five. So two of those are going to Kamala Harris. Which are a requirement for her in order to win the presidency. Because if she won all the blue wall and did not capture those two congressional seats out of Nebraska she still could not have been president she would be one vote short in the electoral college

so Nebraska so we're looking good she needed those two but I'm saying in 2020 Joe Biden got one I'm on the live chat for the Breakfast Club YouTube channel there's over 10,000 people here and someone is asking thank you guys for tuning in someone is asking if you guys can talk more about North Carolina chat for the Breakfast Club's YouTube channel. There's over 10,000 people here. Thanks for watching, y'all.

Thank you guys for tuning in. Someone is asking if you guys can talk more about North Carolina because it's really close. Yes, we expected it to be close. One of the things that I think is really important for us to note is that Shakia Harris is who acts that way. Hi, Shakia. What? Ray, she is.

Oh, God. What? Shut up. Anyway, Shakia You're so rude. What? Shut up. Anyway, Shakia, we love you. Ignore Lenard. You could say something smart-mouthed to him. She ain't ignoring him. She's like, you damn right, I'm black. Right.

But I think one thing that's important here is in North Carolina, this has been a state that we have not won since Barack Obama in 2008. And so Kamala Harris winning this tonight, if she does, it will be another history-making year. And it demonstrates that black folks, when they're at the top of the ticket, can capture states that some other folks can't. Well, I will tell you. There you go.

Turn the music up. I agree. For the folks watching at home, they just dropped in Beyonce. Thank you for that question. Beyonce in the background. She didn't need North Carolina in order to win the race for president in the Electoral College. North Carolina would be icing on the cake for us if we were able to get it, and it is absolutely expected to be close if it comes over at all.

I knocked on doors in North Carolina on Sunday, so I'm expecting a victory. Yeah. And I spoke at churches. You spoke at churches. Yes, I did. You know another grievance I think Trump speaks to? I think he speaks to the poor better than... Charlotte, put your mic closer. The poor, the white poor or poor in general?

It's poor, period. When people hear people, when you hear somebody talking about, you know, you can't pay your bills, you can't keep food on your table, you can't keep a roof over your head, then he'll mix in, these are the people taking the jobs from you. This is why you can't pay your bills, you can't keep food on your table, you can't keep a roof over your head, but then he'll mix in, these are the people taking the jobs from you. This is why you can't eat. I think all of that works.

Even if it's not true, right? That's grievance politics. They're the reason you're losing. It feels true. But I think it's more rooted in this. This is what I think is causing more of a racially diverse coalition to come into the Republican Party because they're speaking to this a lot more.

They are. It's a mirage, but they are speaking to it. Daddy, I'm on set. They have the beauty of being able to say things like, So, first of all, at what point of Donald Trump's life does he represent better? My lived experience. I mean, the man got a million-dollar loan from his daddy to start a business. I ain't never seen a million dollars. I did grow up with it. I mean, you man got a million dollar loan from his dad at the start of business. I ain't never seen a million dollars.

I did grow up with it. I mean, you were rich in our community if you took your family to McDonald's on the weekend for a meal. So the fact that he can embody that better than almost any politician is insane to me. But I get it because you're

right, Charlamagne speaks to it and then he tells you who's to blame for it. None of us are ever going to do that one because it actually isn't the truth for many of us in our places. He's a marketing genius too. We had Nouri call the radio this morning.

He was like, yeah, I was richer. I had more money when Donald Trump, but it's just what Donald Trump has been saying for so long. Not just Trump Republicans. It's mind-bogg has been saying for so long. Not just Trump, Republicans. It's mind-boggling to me that since World War II, the economy has always done significantly better with a Democrat president, but they haven't been able to make it. We don't say it, right? Yeah. And we don't

celebrate it either, but you're absolutely right. We're the ones who improve the economy. They're the ones who take money from you, give it to the top 1%, but then run up campaigns about you not being able to keep a roof over your head. Why do Democrats act so scary around money and Republicans? I don't be scared.

I feel like, this is just my assumption, I feel like Republicans are not afraid to tell you look, this is how I grew up, but this is what I got, this is what I've done, this is what I can get you. But us, I feel like we always have to be the humble, the I'm still, I feel you we always have to be the humble, the I'm still, I feel you, I'm still here with you. And I think

there's a lifestyle that people aspire to and want. You watch Trump in your house for a long time. Everybody wants to live this lifestyle, have this money, and they see him, and he leans into it. I don't know. Why do we have to do that? I don't know that on this side of the, like on the Democratic side of the aisle

that people are that rich either. Like, I think the most important thing to understand is, like, Donald Trump is a failed businessman who has projected riches but not rich at all. And especially after these court cases and the fines he's had to pay and had to borrow money to pay them. But Kamala Harris, on the other side, talks about being raised in a middle-class household, and she went straight from law school into public service. But the aspirational does win. Yeah, I'm just saying that the reason why there's not a leaning in here is because that would be false. But his is false too.

His lean into it is right. Absolutely. But I think that people like to vote for something that looks like a success. Yeah. And he exudes success even though all of his businesses crumble underneath his thumb. Right. But his marketing suggests otherwise. Absolutely. I mean, he owns a company right now that ain't nobody on his platform.

And it is somehow valued that of the same value of Twitter. Oh, Trump Media? Yeah. Well, it's the app that he's on. True Social. True Social. Hey, I just want you all to know that Trump is at 210, and the old people in South Carolina is panicking.

I'm looking at my group chat. Well, let me tell you guys. Where's the group chat at? Are you on Facebook? No, this is a group chat. The old people in South Carolina. How many green bubbles in that group chat? Hey, the OGs.

It's definitely green. I can hold something on there. But let me just tell you OGs. It's definitely green. Let me just tell you guys this. It looks like we're in trouble. Trump is overperforming. Where is he overperforming? I don't know. I think that's the question we have to answer. If they can point us to the states where he's overperforming, I think that would be important.

Inconceivable. He said this is inconceivable. Let me ask you guys this. One thing that we've seen, and we saw it happen in Florida as well, Andrew, in 2018, there are several ballot initiatives in states all over the country. One that's up in Arizona is Proposition 139, which is the right to abortion. Right now, that ballot initiative to ensure that there is a right to abortion in the state is overperforming Vice President Harris.

Right now, that is, yes, is 63.1% of the vote, whereas she's performing at, oh, here it is, she currently has 49.5% of the vote. To Donald Trump's 49.6, she's neck and neck. But that right to abortion is overperforming. I'm interested to see. Overperforming both. Yeah, I'm interested to see why that is because if federally they're able to ban abortion, that state ballot initiative does not matter.

It gets trumped. It gets trumped because of federalism. I would argue that most people likely do not understand that. I know they don't. And I will say something controversial that I disagree with Charlamagne about him speaking to the poor and this is what people care about. I'm going to say something that people don't like to hear. What's that? Most people in this country are not intellectually curious about a lot of things.

And I think Trump's rise to power has coincided with the dumbing down of the American electorate and the confluence of things that led to that. If you ask most people, where are you getting your information from? Most people are not reading papers. Most people are not even curious enough to read a website. But it's fair. It's also fair. It's the fact that he's saying immigrants are coming, taking your jobs. But you can look and see if that information is true or not. Like, I read probably eight papers every day. And there are things that I...

When you read the article and then you see what's on television, it is a snapshot of something. Yeah, but people don't see that. They'll see that. They'll see schools are closed because immigrants are staying in the school. That's my frustration. But we can do this all day. But y'all missing one thing. You don't have to be intelligent to know that you can't eat.

I agree with that. Because in real life, people don't have the time to do this because you're trying to figure out, okay, bet. But they do have the time. That's my problem. If you can sit on Instagram for an hour, you have the time to look at a candidate. You have the time to participate in something.

Even if they did right now with the disinformation of information, you don't know what's true or what's not. You don't know, and you can find an opinion out there that looks legit. That reflects your view. That reflects your view. People be on Facebook sending all the wrong information. All the wrong. My cousin sent me stuff on Facebook. I'd be like, get off the internet,

please. I said it to my mother. Share responsibly. Get off. I do want to say, too, there's one other disparity I want to talk about. I know I just talked about abortion on the ballot in Arizona. One of the other things that we haven't talked a lot about tonight are split tickets. Right. So some people will vote Democrat or Republican at the top of the ballot and then do something different when they go down ballot.

One place where we're seeing that, again, is in North Carolina. We talked earlier about the craziness that was Mark Robinson, who's only captured 40% of the vote, to Josh Stein's 55.1% of the vote. But when you look at Kamala Harris's percentage right now, it's significantly lower. She's at 47.8% to Donald Trump's 50.8%. So slightly under 3%. There's a difference between them, but the other, the gubernatorial candidate,

Molly walked Mark Robinson. Would have been nice to see consistency down ballot. But we talked about split tickets earlier, that there are people who will vote for the top of the ticket and then vote differently down ballot, especially on some of those ballot initiatives. But I still maintain that people do that because they don't understand the process and how it works. And I'm not blaming that exclusively on people, voters and non-voters.

I think there's a lot of shared responsibility in that. But we have to at some point start holding voters accountable for having the intellectual curiosity to at least go out and look and find information. And I don't buy this that that people don't have time, because it might be if they have time to send articles on Facebook, you have time to go to the source. You can literally go to campaigns and see where people are. So let me ask you a question.

With an hour before we get to midnight Eastern time, what should we be looking for? What should we be seeing in the next? What are the states? What are those states that you're like, Jesus? What should be coming in now? What should we be looking at? I don't know if that will see

the major states. I don't know that we'll get results tonight from Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. Well, again, it depends on how quickly... How many people are counting these votes in Pennsylvania? With Trump at 210, what state could come in right now that you'd be like, alright, bro, it's over. Well, California could come in and he would be less than where

she is in the total electoral count. Oh, so California. And the whole state is that all of his votes will go one way or the other. But see, we saw that in 2016, though. I remember when Hillary won Cali, and it was like, oh, shoot. No, no, no. You asked between now and midnight what big thing. No, for him.

She would not have more votes than him. There isn't a big thing that can happen for any of them. It is going to be a state by state. I mean, there will be states that will put huge numbers back in her column.

Gotcha. That's when California comes through, but if I were a voter right now wondering about what I should be paying attention to, Right.

I would be tracking the Michigan outcome. And again, I think they were at 50, 52% of the vote being counted there. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.

Wisconsin is one. They're one percentage point difference right now. What percent? Fifty six percent of 56 has a lot more. I know. I'm saying it's really close. So they will have to continue to watch those. And then I would throw in there Nevada and Arizona. Yeah.

I have a question about you keep mentioning Nevada. I was listening to CNN earlier today, and they were saying that if Kamala doesn't win Pennsylvania, she doesn't have to worry because she can grab Nevada. Arizona. Arizona and one other state. How do you guys? It just depends.

So we have to actually look at the map, but we encourage all the viewers at home to do the same. There is Electoral College maps. And, Lauren, on here, too, you can mark. I've been putting the numbers on the little column. I don't have it. I've been saying I need a pen. I start to get notes on my phone.

So you were saying Michigan, Wisconsin. Nevada's battleground. Arizona, you just said. Pennsylvania. North Carolina. Georgia. North Carolina and Georgia, again, are not states that are must-win states for her to win the presidency. Depending on how the rest of the map. Assuming the blue wall holds, which I don't have a reason to think that it wouldn't.

But if it held, she won't need either of those two states to make the difference for her other than. So they just said, I just want to shout out myself because they just said, I'm seeing in Nebraska is fascinating. I said that everybody blew me off. I did. We just got another text from an OG. Oh, what is happening on your phone?

Over 80. So over 80 OG. What'd he say? Her butt's getting kicked. She can still win with a Hail Mary pass. God willing. No, they're not paying attention to the state.

That's not true. Look at this map. It's what the old streets are saying. What I want you to do is look at this map. I don't know. No, and compare it to 2020. I thought we had lost, and we went to bed about 2 a.m. Yeah. And I was fully prepared for a Trump presidency when I woke up.

And we woke up the next day, the numbers have flipped. And in the ensuing days, it's better. It's not that they flipped. They did all the count. Yeah, I want to make sure that we're very careful about our language because we're expecting political violence from people that are suspecting that the election is rigged. When you look at the exit polls for Trump supporters,

they're saying that they don't trust the process. Even though they're turning out in large numbers, they're saying they don't trust that the voting process is one built in integrity. Well, we're not saying that now votes are going to flip to her. What we're saying is there are significant states that you need to count to get to 270 that aren't in yet. Right. I'm talking about the existing states that right now look as if they are Trump states and as the vote continues to be counted and the tally

is totaled, they end up in a different column and they're not ending up there because they're being stolen. They end up there because the vote tallies dictate that that's exactly where they are supposed to be. Yeah. The only reason why I keep saying I went to bed thinking one way

is because if you're in a mood right now and you're wondering whether or not we're repeating history, we are repeating history, except it's 2020 history and not 2016. That's 2020? Yeah. It's almost the same. Look at it. So I'm showing, Lenard, turn your computer this way.

Tiff is probably looking at it on her phone. Lenard, turn your computer. Well, actually, turn it looking at it on her phone. Lenard, turn your computer. Well, actually, turn it over that way because I want y'all to come here. George is a different – This is 2020. Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh, overlaying. Okay.

Okay, so now we – Can you shake your shoulders a little bit? Wait. What's going on down there? You all right? Oh, watch Lenard dance. I thought I heard a little juvenile. Okay.

Oh, my God. You did. You did. Yeah, you heard a little Tiki. All right. You heard a little juvenile. Okay. Oh, my God. You did. You did. Yeah, you heard a little Tiki. All right. You heard a little Tiki. What happened? They playing with you down there.

You saw that? I heard it. I heard it. I'm trying to focus up here. I heard it. They playing with you. How are you feeling? I'm going to send that out to the old people.

Honestly, right now, I feel like I'm learning in real time. Because I feel like I've never paid this much attention for this long on election night. I think I go vote. We listen a little bit. Go to sleep. Wake up. It's whatever. So I think in real time I'm learning just how these things can slowly progress.

And, yeah. I feel hopeful. I'm learning to watch people. I honestly, for the last, I would say, maybe like two weeks, I don't really feel anything. I'm just kind of waiting for whatever's going to happen so I can figure out what I have to do. We can brace. I'm at the point in my life where like whatever happens,

I got to deal with it. I'm very hopeful. I know what I want to happen. I'm very hopeful. I'm praying. And, you know, with us jumping into politics like we did in the last couple of years, I have so many questions of why, right? It's the last couple.

We've been doing it for about a decade. Several cycles, yeah. But more seriously, the last, I would say, six, seven years. But, you know, I have questions like why. Like why are we still playing with this electoral vote, like I said earlier? Why isn't it just not the popular vote now? Like get rid of the electoral college. Right, yeah.

I want to see Lauren and Envy run a campaign to get rid of the electoral college. No, I'm good. Why? You all over there. I got six kids. I ain't got no time. I just think it would be good. Do it for the kids. But what would be better?

There actually are people doing that work. That's true, Jeff. That you can join. And Eric Holder, former Attorney General Eric Holder, who was the Attorney General under President Obama, he was posed this question a lot. And, you know, they said, well, what would it take to get rid of the Electoral College? And they said, well, you know, that's a heavy lift. And he said, well, then we have to lift heavy. So his organization is actually fighting to do that.

So you can fund that organization. You can host something for him. You can be a part of it. As long as you're asking the questions why, be sure to have an answer or contribute to the answer. Like, you can be a part of the solution. How effective is it? Is it like, because I feel like with the Green Party situation, like, it's not effective, but it's there. How effective is what his is, his campaign?

I will tell you, honestly, I think it's going to be near impossible to get white people to say we will give up our power. And that's what will be required. They'll have to say we're willing to give up our power. So in the state of Florida, we would benefit greatly by a populist vote being able to make a decision, except that I also know that if I did that, the majority of populated places are Democratic, and they will choose Democrats every time in a popular vote. So if your power is derived from people making policies that benefit largely white Republican voters,

why would I change my state? I'm not giving that away. So I think it's going to, and because you've got to get two-thirds of states to agree to a change in the Constitution, we better start spreading out and, you know, reverse migrating.

It's our advantage if it ain't going nowhere? I want to, just really quick, I wanted to just highlight some of these ballot initiatives. Again, Colorado Amendment 79, the right to abortion and health insurance coverage passed. And Florida went down. Florida, it did not pass. Maryland.

Not that it's marijuana. Oh, wow. Went down. Maryland passed the right to abortion amendment, and there are a few others that are still out. New York also passed the right to abortion amendment. So when you guys talk about why, Envy, we have to figure out a way to engage people beyond just candidates.

We have to. So many of these ballot initiatives, there were more than 140, I believe, in 40-plus states, and 57 of those were led by citizens. They weren't led by elected officials. They didn't come down from state legislatures. We've got to figure out a way to get people involved. What we do know is the way that we've done it has historically just barely worked. But I think there are a whole lot more people out here in this country that think like us, who are just disenfranchised, who feel like they've never been heard and never seen by the political process. So I'm so grateful to be doing this show with y'all tonight as Lenard zones out because I think that we need to be with y'all to figure out how can we make this conversation more pedestrian, more accessible, and more tangible so people feel like there is a pathway to victory for them with building political power.

Do you think celebrity works? Because we were talking about this on The Breakfast Club. Do you think all these you know, getting all these celebrities to speak and celebrities to perform and celebrity in force, does it mean anything though? For whatever reason, it doesn't seem like celebrity works for Democrats

but for some strange reason, the celebrity billionaire works for Republicans. I don't know if celebrity works for Democrats, but for some strange reason, the celebrity billionaire works for Republicans. I don't think it works for either. How does Elon Musk resonate with people? I don't think it works for either, but I tell you what they do do because I ran a campaign that solicited celebrities to come in and help as well. What they do is they bring attention. They bring news to stories that don't, you know, if you're not getting press, they can help get you some. You'll take advantage of that.

But it has been surveyed. It's been polled. It's been proven that the most influential voice to change your perspective one way as it relates to who you might support or not support is a person that you know personally. So we have the most influence over the family we have. We have the most influence over our true friends. The folks who look to you, they trust you, and they believe you. But celebrities bring attention, and I think

that's a value to a campaign. But when you think about endorsements, it's the endorsements of the person you know, you trust, you have a relationship with, that's going to move you to vote a certain way or to vote at all. Right. It's going to be our family.

It'll be the people we know and love. And I don't think celebrity works on the right either. I don't think there are people who are voting for Donald Trump because Hulk Hogan shows up or Kid Rock shows up. Or Rocka Flocka who's not even registered to vote. Do you think Elon Musk has delivered votes for Trump by head support? I do. So you think there were people who were, I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump.

Oh, but wait, Elon Musk supported Donald Trump. What about the way he manipulated the egg? All day long. That is different. That's not celebrity. I haven't watched it, but a lot of people have been raving about the interview he just did with Joe Rogan. Oh my God, it's all over everywhere. I haven't watched it, but they're saying

they were like, yo, he sealed the deal. He sold me on I'm not even, I've heard that. Elon Musk? Yes, I've heard that a bunch of times. But is that celebrity or business? You're saying what now? Elon Musk sat down with Joe Rogan. Elon Musk did Rogan.

Oh, Elon Musk did an interview with Joe Rogan. Two days ago, I think. He did it like two or three days ago. And everybody was saying how he, they were like, yo, he sealed the deal. I don't even know what he said. I would go back to my earlier point about the dumbing down of the American electorate when Joe Rogan is your go-to person who can convince you to vote one way or another. Joined by Elon Musk.

Elon Musk didn't just do that interview, though. He's literally changed the algorithm on Twitter so that we're seeing a lot of conservative and misinformation. That's not against the law? That's not illegal? I feel like it should be, especially when he went on stage and was like, I got a million dollars for you to show me that you registered to vote somewhere. So another state was just projected for Vice President Harris. I don't know, but I know we've got to look crazy everywhere.

Tip the only professional company that has people down here. I think that we complicate a lot of these things, and it's kind of simple. That's what I'm saying. It's literally about people want to feel like they got more money in their pocket and they want to feel safe. And those are two very simple things that for some reason Democrats aren't able to speak to. But why do they believe the Republican who has a track record and a history of saying this is not a thing or saying this is going to happen but it actually is not a thing versus Democratic administrations that have proven over and over again

through tax credits, through trying to democratize what's happening. Is she all right? She's coming to grab me. I'm about to go down there with the people and be down there and we can back and forth a little bit. Okay. I like it. I'm about to trek it down there to be outside with the people for you guys.

I'm going to find some drugs. What'd you say? Don't you guys sit here looking like a white... Your hair comb with you. We what? What'd you say? Take a comb. Don't do that. You guys sitting here looking like a white... Because if you blow, your hair's going to be blowing. See, you always looking like a rat tail comb.

You're looking like white toes. Don't see... You got a rat tail comb. Don't keep your light skins out of it, Lauren. We was all together until then. No, I'm sorry.

You got her rat tail comb to get up under her wig. First of all, look at the numbers. Look at the numbers. He just mad that he needs it. We popping some numbers now. All right, I'll see y'all

when I get to the field. She want Callie. Okay, we can't wait to hear from you, Laura. We're going to see you down there. Okay. The number is 179. California's in, which is what Andrew was saying earlier, that the lead will decrease once California comes in.

She's not ahead, but the lead is significantly decreased with California coming in. So tell all them South Carolinians that we see walking all over that. What I did. What I said, I sent them the map and I said, this was the map in 2020. What I said. She came in updating us on something we already doing. Lauren needs headphones that ain't delayed. Oh, baby.

I'd be curious to know what percent of the vote is in, in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So right now, on the map that I have, it says too close to call, 68% in in Pennsylvania. In Michigan, of course, it reloaded while I was talking. In Pennsylvania, for me, I got 67% reporting and 51% for Trump. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. North Carolina, 86% reporting, 50.9% for Trump. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. North Carolina, 86% reporting, 50.9% for Trump. Michigan, 27% reporting, 51.2% for Trump.

Georgia, 90% reporting, 51.1% for Trump. Jesus. Wisconsin is 60% reporting. 50.4% for Trump. No, I got 49.9, and she's at 48.4%, which is just a little under 2%. And they're very, very close races. What we need to remember, Tiffany said this earlier as well, some of the last counties to be counted are the blackest and most urban counties

because they are significantly larger counties. So those are normally holdouts. They're also the ones that experience the most death threats, the most harassment. And so and we've seen that across the board, both in southern states like Georgia and of course, in Pennsylvania, as we reported earlier today. Well, regardless of the tactics, somebody win those states. There was an incident at a polling site earlier this week in South Carolina that Bakari Sellers shared with us. He posted it on Twitter. And it was all the polling workers, all the poll workers were black women.

I'm sure you've seen this. And the white man with the MAGA hat on, he was not supposed to be in there with the hat on. They were trying to ask him to take it off, and he wouldn't. And he physically confronted the black women. I watched that. It was about six or seven black women and this white man, and he got violent with them. And I watched that, and I knew instantly that he would never have behaved that

way had those been black men in that room. Oh, absolutely. They only act like that when they're not on cover. Still got his eye black, though. Good. I felt like all the black women, the one woman had the cane. I'm like, y'all should have took that cane and beat the crap out of that dude. Because I got to assume my life is in danger if you're confronting me like that.

But I bring that up to say, one, the threats of political violence are real. We have tangible evidence of that. But two, these are the people, Charlamagne, that you're saying, what do we do on the other side of this? I have no interest in connecting with that man. I already know who he is. I already know who those pockets of people are. And I wonder how emboldened

these folks will continue to be regardless of how this race turns out. That's really what's the main thing on my mind. Because we may not know what happens tonight, but regardless of what happens, there is an ugly underbelly in this country that has been unearthed in a way that puts us all in harm's way i think jim cliburn said it's going to be jim crow 2.0 tell your mic your mouth yeah jim cliburn said it was going to be jim crow 2.0 yeah yeah yeah all right do you guys have any

concerns about that look we all live in cities where we're going to be mostly safe. They're, you know, progressive cities and black cities. But I'm curious if you guys are worried about family members or whatever. I don't even think you can be safe in a progressive city. Yeah, I was going to say that. Some days over. I feel safe. I mean, I'm here in the nation's capital.

I do. I feel safe. I don't feel safe sometimes in Jersey, especially for my kids going around. I got to worry about my kids driving down the road and a big pickup truck with a Trump flag comes and sees them and what they might do, what he might think about doing if my son cuts him off by accident, what they might possibly be doing for my son or saying anything with my daughter. So I am very nervous. And I've seen how it's shifted in the last, I would say, 10 years.

Before that, I didn't get that. I didn't have that as much. But I feel like a lot of times when I see that Trump flag, it's almost like a sign of racism when I see it. Yes, yeah, of course. So it does make me nervous regardless of what state I live in or what state I visit. I feel like it's everywhere. And then when I visit these states and I visit these cities and I'm doing shows in these cities and I see people.

I was in Sephora the other day. I was getting something for my wife. And a guy walked in with a red Make America Great hat again and he scared the shit out of me. Yeah. It was shocking. Yeah. He was just going in there shopping,

but that's what that means to me when I look at it, and it means that to a lot of people. Agreed. It's so triggering. I me when i look at it and it means that to a lot of people agree it's so triggering i think especially i think it didn't it was irritating in 2016 um but after what happened on january 6 2021 where you literally saw the trump flag the confederate flag and the american flag all together on january 6th all of them are triggering to me but that one especially because it's like I understand everything that this man is connected to, but Trumpism wins the day for me. It wins the day for me over democracy.

It wins the day for me over whether or not we can be equal or not. In fact, I don't want to share my power with you is the message that I feel like they're sending. So I understand exactly what you're saying. I was telling my homegirls, two of us were getting ready to go eat in New York, and this man was wearing a Make America Great Again hat, and he passed me once, then he passed me twice, and then he came back a third time, and by that time Alicia was there. And I was so scared.

I was like, does he know who we are? Like, is he coming to attack? I literally just got on the phone just because I was waiting for our reservation at the restaurant. It is so triggering, and it's very scary. So in a place like when it was in New York, and it's like in Tribeca, right? It's not like, you know, in the Bronx or places where, you know, some of the other folks can act a little different. Queens, it was literally right there in Tribeca.

And I was like, okay, what's happening? Do I need to get ready to defend myself? I think we have to move like that. I think I'm not condoning violence, but if you are crazy enough to confront me, I have to assume my life is in danger and I'm going to act accordingly. And I think when I saw that man and how he treated those women, I assumed their lives were in danger. So if I'm in presence and I'm assuming somebody else's life is in danger,

I'm going to act accordingly in that case too. So, again, this is something that transcends tonight's election results. This cycles election results. I just think we have turned a point in this country where the violence will become a lot more ubiquitous than what we've seen previously. That way to him Hampton University campus. What is he doing? Contemplating where he's going to move.

We should have the podfather come on. Chris, come up here, Chris. What were you saying? While Chris is coming up here, I was going to say, so we're on H.U. Hampton University, I said Hampton, Howard University's campus. Will Kamala Harris speak to the crowd regardless of what happens? She is going to come out and she's going to speak to the students and alumni and all that tonight.

I wouldn't. Why wouldn't you? I would wait. For what? I don't know. Well, she has to. All these people are here. She will definitely come out tonight.

We would understand. I will say this. Charlamagne and I were at Hillary Clinton's celebration and she didn't come out. So I was just asking if she's definitely coming out. If she was't come out. So I was just asking. Is she definitely coming out? You know what, though? If she was to lose, it wouldn't feel like that. Hillary was a complete and total shock.

Like, whoa, what just happened? This isn't a complete and total shock. You said this isn't? We're not. But we don't know yet. We don't know yet. That's what I'm saying. But if it was to happen, it wouldn't be a complete and total disaster.

I would be shocked. Unexpected and unprecedented what we saw in 2016. Hillary Clinton was really the first model for that. Like, what do you do? Al Gore was another model for it. He didn't

come out in 2000. The evening is what they say. Another state for Vice President Harris. And while we're waiting to see what that state is, Chris Morrow, who is our, we call him the podfather. Tiffany

combined the names because I always say podcast godfather. He owes a reason choice with us. And he was over there looking crazy enough for Lenard to be like, look at Chris. So we called him up here. Chris, what's wrong with you, man? I'm not feeling great at the moment. I got to be honest.

Show him the overlay of the map, Lenard, so he can calm down. He doesn't have to hold one. He only has one. I mean, I've been updating every couple seconds. I mean, you know, I've been wandering around in the crowd. I'm trying to pick up some energy to boost myself up. I'm not finding it. Tell me what has you most concerned.

Which states? PA. I mean, I'm a Pennsylvania native. I'm originally from Pennsylvania. Vote today? Philadelphia. Well, I live in Brooklyn, so I voted in New York. Oh, damn.

But, you know, my mother was at the polls this morning. She wasn't optimistic, so I'm concerned about that. And, you know, maybe an hour ago, I think Harris was up 11, and now it's completely swung, and they have Trump up, I think, two right now with about 65% of the vote. Two points? Yeah. That was 73% in.

Oh, 73%. Yeah. And I assume Philadelphia has not been counted yet. No. And, you know, I'm here having a mini existential crisis over there, and I'm, like, talking to people, and people are like, these are the rural counties. The cities haven't been counted yet.

Don't freak out. There's still a long way to go, so I'm trying not to freak out. Yeah, don't. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I mean, I'll share with you. We went to bed in 2020 thinking that the Democratic loss because similar maps were coming in until the ensuing days and the votes continue to be counted. And it swang the other direction, largely because absentee challenge ballots, as well as many of the urban centers don't come in until later. They're the last in many places to come in. And states like Virginia, right?

Like Virginia right now is 79% in. She's leading by two percentage points. That's 13 electoral votes right there, too. So I think that we just have to pay attention to the ones that are too close to call, pay attention to the urban centers that haven't yet been counted. Those are the larger populations in those states. And then also the West Coast because a lot of these states, they haven't even opened up, closed the doors yet.

Right. The one thing you showed me on the map from 2020 was they flipped Georgia in 2020. Yeah. It don't look like they're flipping Georgia. They're not. They don't have to. You know? They don't have to. No know, they don't have to.

No. Okay. I think they could right now. It says there's 88% of precincts reporting and he's got just barely a two percentage point lead over her. Again, Georgia is not a state. I was putting in the democratic column.

It's a fully purple state. I mean, that was the first time that was a huge deal that took the work of a lot of people leading up to that election cycle for Georgia to go blue. But I don't think we know that Georgia is a blue state. No, it's not. But I do think Georgia is decisively a purple state now. I think it's competitive.

Well, we talked about white folks earlier and states being very white, and that's why they're red. However, Oregon has been called for Kamala Harris as well, and that is very white. And they're a live action Oregon Trail movie coming out. I don't know if you're all excited about that. That was a hell of a transition. I remember playing that. That was a great game. I'm just trying to find some joy.

I hate it when the wheel blew out, the wood wheel. Yes. And you had to shoot the bison. Yeah. I didn't play that. You didn't play that? Let me ask you guys a question. Was Walls the right pick?

Yes, I think so. No. I don't play that. You didn't play that? Let me ask you guys a question. Was Walls the right pick? Yes, I think so. No. I don't think it makes a difference. Yeah, that's right. That's true. It could have. It could have. I don't think it makes a difference.

Because she was a VP who made a difference for a lot of people. I don't think she did. I did. I voted. I would have never voted for Joe Biden. That's a good point. She definitely made a difference for me. I don't think.

I mean. I think Josh Shapiro would have made a big difference. Statistically, I don't think it would have been harmful to her. I think he would have made a difference. Yeah, she already has enough baggage with the ceasefire people. I think having a Zionist on the ticket with her would have been detrimental to her. Yeah, but the ceasefire people are never going to be on her side until there's a ceasefire. I don't know about that. I think that there are people who can say, you know,

I can hold my nose and vote for her. You know, I don't anticipate something different happening. We had Mark Lamont Hill on our live show from Philly yesterday talk about that. But, I mean, I asked, you will recall, I asked Governor Shapiro when we were at the DNC his thoughts on Gaza, and he is very clearly, he feels very strongly in support of Israel. And, look, nobody is not in support of Israel, but we are just equally in support of a Palestinian's right to life and safety

and a Palestinian's right to exist. I think having somebody who doesn't feel that way or who does not openly project to feel that way, it would have been detrimental. Trump definitely don't feel that way. He definitely don't. But the question is if Walls is the right thing. And where's Walls been?

I haven't seen Walls recently. Have y'all seen Walls? Yeah, he's been out. He's been out. Yeah, I agree with you that where... It's not covered. I agree with that, too. It's not covered. Where they found Wall walls is where they should have left walls.

And that was on. No, no, no. I'm not saying that shady. No, I'm not saying I'm not saying in Minnesota. What people don't understand is that Tim Walls was absolutely campaigning for the VP slot. As soon as things started moving, he was one of the first, most profound pundits on cable news. They should have left him there. They should have never tried to restrain him. Tim Walz was on cable news? He was on cable news as a governor. As soon as Kamala Harris was at the top of the ticket, he went on immediately and was defending her.

He's the one that came with the weirdo messaging frame. He was very effective on cable news. They sought to restrain him when he became number two on the ticket, and I think that was a very ineffective strategy. Now, it will be the best thing ever if they pull this thing out. But I will tell you, and they know this, I've said the whole time, I'm very intrigued by Josh Shapiro. I think the way that he connects with people.

I've interviewed him with y'all. He's very, very good and effective. Right. But I have to agree with Tiff. We did hear Mark Lamont Hill say on the show yesterday, as you all know, Mark Lamont Hill is a member of the Green Party. He said he's voting for Kamala Harris, and he felt like she sent a strong signal to them by not picking Josh Shapiro.

You know what brings me joy joy watching people enjoy their food Well, I think Charlamagne needs some joy, some more joy. And shortly we are going to be joined by one of the most joyful women I know. And that's Latasha Brown of Black Voters Matter. So don't go anywhere. She's in the building. I'm going to give Latasha my headphones so I can run to the bathroom. Okay.

She's here. Oh, she is. We're ready. Yeah. While you take a bio break. But you want to come. You don't want to miss it. Yeah, you want to come. You don't want to miss it. Yeah, you want to be.

And don't get my tracksuit messed up. Oh, my God. You're breaking the headphones. Now, one thing about LaTosha Brown. LaTosha Brown is a realist now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She don't take it true.

So if y'all don't come. Make her come sit right here. I can't. Oh, Chris Morrow. OK. Chris Morrow said take his. LaTosha. LaTosha.

Get LaTosha and bring her in here. LaTosha. I know. Tell her to come on. Get off. Tellasha. Get Latasha and bring her in here. Chris, you want an edible? I'm going to tell her to come on. Get off the phone. We're live. If she were going on any other network, we'd get off that phone and come. Put your headphones on, Lolo. Can Lolo get some headphones that work?

This is not working. Chris, you sure you don't want an edible? I mean, my business. You guys were on federal property. There are no edibles. It's just a joke. Latasha, come on down. Latasha Brown, come on down.

I'm on the phone, man. Come on, honey. We're live. We're live. We're right here. Right over there. Thanks, Chris Morrow. Thanks, Podfather.

Come sit right next to Lenard, Latasha. Act like you love him, even though he's different. Here you go, LaTosha. LaTosha Brown. So we are officially joined. Andrew's VP. Wasn't she your VP at SGA? No, she wasn't, but she's an amazing person.

Somebody is waving for the people watching. Amazing professor here at Howard University. Dr. Kenesha Grant. Somebody was waving. Dr. Kenesha Grant was waving at Andrew. But we are joined by LaTosha Brown. Yes. My sister.

With Black Voters Matter. She runs that with Cliff Albright. And we are so happy to have you on set, Latasha, because Charlamagne has been trying to bring our joy down. I'm just looking at the realist. I'm trying to deal with reality. Push your mic closer, sis. I don't know what the reality is going to be yet. I'm just trying to think about all possibilities and all possible outcomes.

Well, there's still a pathway. Okay. Like, it's still a pathway. And listen, the bottom line is, for black folk, like, at the end of the day, what do we do when it's easy? At the end of the day, like, I hear it, but there's no major surprises. Yep. I mean, I think the only surprise, though,

is how in the hell all these millions of people are voting for this man? Right. We know it, but really what's going to happen tonight, I will say this, whatever happens tonight is a reflection of this country. That's right. That's just the truth. It's a reflection of where we are, what we think about ourselves, and what we think about each other as neighbors.

And so that is the truth. We can depend on that. You guys have knocked on so many doors and made so many contacts with voters, both old and new. Latasha, what are some of the surprises you saw on the field in some of the states? And Angela joined them, by the way, just so people know. She did. Joined Black Voters Matter.

Baby, Angela was in these streets. She was Nordocking. That's what she called it. Oh, I messed up. I said Nordocking on a live. I'll never live it down. I was Nordocking. Angela was in docking. That's what she called it. I messed up. I said door docking on a live. I'll never live it down. I was door docking. Angela was in these streets.

Why do you remember everything? I know, girl. I know. It's so funny. You know, I think the biggest surprise, there were no real big surprise. I think that my biggest surprise were we were talking to people a few days ago, and they were saying that they were going to vote on, like middle-aged folks, they were going to vote on election day. They weren folks, they were going to vote on Election Day.

They weren't going to vote on early voting because they didn't trust voting on early voting. So that was a surprise to me. Yeah. Right? I was really shocked to hear that. And you heard that in Georgia? I heard that in Georgia, but there were multiple states, right, that there is a lot of trust being eroded from across the country.

Some of the stuff that Trump has been saying. And so interesting because we don't think that it's hurtful, but it's been hurtful for the entire process. He won North Carolina. I wasn't surprised. I said he was going to win. Now, Georgia, I'm still trying to hold a little faith.

Wait, are you saying they projected North Carolina? No, they called it. Oh, they called North Carolina. Yeah, they called North Carolina. He's 40 electoral votes away. That's fine. That's quite a distance. Yeah.

Quite a distance. Yeah. So how are you feeling? Joe Biden didn't win North Carolina. Right. I ain't saying nothing. I'm y'all's expert. I'm just here.

How are you feeling, LaTosha? How are you feeling? You know, I am in this moment. Shit, I'm scared as hell right now. There you go, LaTosha. Now somebody want to tell the goddamn truth. All y'all up here with that guy. No, we're trying to hold on to hope.

We're holding on to my joy. I'm holding on to my joy. I'm holding my joy, but they got nothing to do with me being scared. I get it. I get it. It requires courage to be scared. I don't want no hope. Before you got up here, Lenard said, bring Latasha on because she a realist.

Listen. He did say that before you got up here. Envy back. You know, it is. Envy needs some joy. What is scaring you? She just said she's scared of him. There's no book.

I think, yeah. She said she has joy, but she's scared. The numbers scare me. The numbers scare me. You know, Georgia, it's too close in Georgia. I really thought that Georgia was going to have a different outcome. North Carolina, I said North Carolina. I wasn't surprised by North Carolina.

Arizona, I'm a little surprised by. You Carolina, I said North Carolina. I wasn't surprised by North Carolina. Arizona, I'm a little surprised about. You know, Arizona, I really thought that Arizona that she would perform better in Arizona. It's got to be early on their results. Only 51%. It's too close, but it's only 51%.

Okay. You think he's going to win Arizona? I, I, I, uh-oh. Yes. You think he's going to win Arizona? Uh-oh. Yes. You think he's going to win Arizona? Oh, Lord. What are your thoughts on Georgia? I got to say, I'm a little disappointed that Georgia.

Oh, I am super disappointed. Yeah. Can I ask you all a question? What happened to Stacey Abrams? Didn't Stacey have the magical powers to mobilize people in Georgia? Like, what happened? Well, let me say, Stacey Abrams did a lot. I never want to take away from what Stacey Abrams did. Oh, she, hold on, that's what I'm saying.

What happened to her? No, but I just want to say she did not do that work alone. LaTosha has been on the ground, like, for decades. Black Voters Matter. But listen, I, listen, the sister did her work. Yes. And there's been a lot of groups that have been doing work. Yes. But we're going to have to actually say voter suppression doesn't go away

because we're working hard. We actually have to overcome that. So we're seeing that in the South. This year alone, y'all, there's been over 300 bills been passed around voter suppression. So for all of us, it's been harder this year. That's just the reality. And so ultimately, that doesn't make, it's still,

it's like you're moving the goalposts, and you've got to jump higher, you've got to jump higher. And then when you don't jump that high, then it becomes like a reflection on something wrong with you. We've been working our tails off in Georgia. We've been on the ground doing our work, but when you are purging hundreds of thousands of voters, when you're creating laws that make it much more difficult for people in the process,

it has an accumulative effect. So we're going to deal with that. Whether Harris wins or not, that's still a reality that we're faced, particularly in the South, which is why we need voters. We need to make sure that we have stronger voting rights. Who was the guy you were on the panel with in Georgia, the secretary? Oh my God. Sterling? Yes, Sterling.

Yeah, so this is a concern of mine. Yeah, he's a jackass. But I want to say this because he did a 60 Minutes profile with him. And he said something that I thought was so telling. He said said voter suppression is not real and neither is uh like what i'm paraphrasing but essentially neither is um this idea that you're stealing an election i mean basically the left is wrong and

donald trump i mean white folks said slavery was good job precisely like they uplifted him. They uplifted him because he did the right thing. He became a hero for doing what he was supposed to do. It's like if I go into a store and I don't steal nothing, I'm all of a sudden a hero because he didn't find these 11,000 votes for Donald Trump. This is my challenge

because I think so many people were so willing to celebrate him and yet we do still see rampant voter suppression in the state of Georgia. And people think, no, we fixed all those problems. We solved all those problems. So I think it's so crucial what you just said. We are climbing hurdles.

We're climbing hurdles. Yes. We're climbing mountains. It wasn't even in 2022. As a matter of fact, each of the, in 2022, what we saw, people kept saying, well, see, there's no voter suppression because there's been high voter turnout, right? As if we didn't, the amount of resources, the time and the energy that we're doing around getting people, making sure that people are voting, making sure that folks

have access to the ballot, that's crazy, right? It's really unconscionable where we're going. So at the end of the day, when we're seeing this, we still have to factor in voter suppression. Regardless of the outcome, voter suppression is real and is impacting us and it's like death by a thousand cuts. You shave off a few here, you shave off a few there and then you get this ultimate outcome.

So part of what we've always been concerned about is we've got to overwhelm the vote. But what that does is that places an undue burden on us. Because, listen, I ain't owning this right here. I'm not owning this. White women are going to have to own this. Yes.

Right? White men are going to have to own this. Latino men and women are going to have to own this. Yes. We're not just going to own this. It is not our responsibility to save this democracy solely by ourselves. My concern is that every single damn time. Every time.

So we have done the work, and it's been a beautiful, brilliant coalition of people doing the work. But the truth of the matter is America is structurally stuck into racism and will not fundamentally deal with that because at the end of the day, this particular – we are seeing white supremacy walk around and parade itself right now. I agree with you, LaTosha. That's why I think we have to stop saying we're going to save the democracy. They're getting the democracy they want. They're getting the democracy they voted for.

Honestly, we're probably just in the way. Because this is what they want, clearly. Yeah, but it's not about just about them. We're saving the democracy that we want, too. At least an element of it. Because at the end of the day, we know harm reduction. So part of us, black folk ain't crazy.

We actually know that this system is racist. We know that this system has not worked in favor of us. We know there's marginalized. We're sitting here seeing a man with 34 felonies, right? Think about it. In a state that you couldn't even vote, right, having a felony conviction. Now it is that he's lit. And they actually were going after folks who

were formerly incarcerated folks to get their rights back. But in that same state, this man has 34 felonies and he's running for president. So we're literally looking at the double standard that has always been here. I don't think that black folks are fooled by believing in the system or protecting some democracy that is

the democracy in the Constitution. But what we know is that when democracy is not in place, i.e., the opportunity for us to weigh in on leadership, that it don't work well for us. When we're not able to put people in place that actually align or at least protect us, it don't work well for us. When we don't have policies in place to make sure that we have resources for our children, for our families, it doesn't work well for us. So ultimately, there's a level of democracy

that we recognize is not the democracy we desire and we deserve, but it's one at the very least that reduces the harm happening to our community. What's the pathway, Latasha? Let me see what they're called. What's the pathway? I got 187.

187 to 230. What's the pathway to victory? Michigan? No, she can still pull this. Michigan? She got 187. 187 to 230. What's the pathway to victory for the victory? Michigan. No, she can still pull this. Michigan, she got to win all that. She got to win Michigan. She got to win Pennsylvania.

She got to win Wisconsin. I think Minnesota is a done. Minnesota's done. It's done. She couldn't even win the state that her VP from? And y'all telling me that was a good thing? They didn't call that. That's not called. Minnesota. You just said it was done. No. I said, I mean, done. I thing? No, they didn't call that. That's not called.

Minnesota. You just said it was done. No, I said I mean done. I mean she got Minnesota. She got that. Oh, okay. Come on now. She's trying to make us lose. Come on now.

It's too early to call. It's too early to call. It's too early to call. Envy was asking what's the – Yeah, what was the biggest hurdle that you see? I think misinformation and disinformation. It's a huge hurdle. That's what you were saying earlier.

Right. Oh, absolutely. Misinformation and disinformation that's what we were saying earlier oh absolutely misinformation and disinformation like the kind of the information that is being seeded in our communities and we can always tell it's interesting we were going to some college campuses in Pennsylvania and North Carolina and we started hearing

brothers at a particular age saying the same thing and when you start seeing patterns you're asking where you get that and it's wrong information because it's something different, right? And we kept hearing the patterns because there's information. We know, this is documented, that Russia, even right now, that we saw in Georgia, there were 19 bomb threats that literally went to codes of pose in Georgia, right? The FBI put out a statement that that was from a rush. They traced that back to Russian.

We've got to be clear. I got Russian packages to my home in 2022, that there are other actors that have vested interest in this election cycle, and they are actively targeting black voters because we are leverage vote. But the truth of the matter is we're not the majority vote. We are the leverage vote, and so we've got to keep that. In order to have the truth of the matter is we're not the majority vote. We are the leverage vote. And so we've got to keep that. In order to have the kind of protection that we need,

we literally have to have allyship. And so the question is, they're not going to put this on the feet of just black folk. At the end of the day, I'm asking the question. Don't be talking to me about no black men. What do these white women do? Right. What do you think about things? Like somebody just posted an interesting data point.

Donald Trump just won Anson County, North Carolina. The county is 40% black. Trump becomes just the second Republican to win this county since the 1870s. You know, I've got to look at what the turnout numbers. That seems like it's probably a turnout issue. Yeah. So it may mean it. And let me see it.

Where is it? Anson County, North Carolina. I need to see where it's located because I also am concerned about turnout. Part of North Carolina, I was concerned about turnout because of the storm. When you walk in a storm, and I know you know this, Andrew, and it upheavals your entire life, people are not really thinking about elections. It's not at the top of their piece. So for me, I would look at it and I would think,

I don't think you're not going to find this big exodus of black voters to the Republicans. I do think what you'll see is you'll see a turnout issue. I want to go back to Arizona really quick. Let's go back to Arizona. The reason why I want to go back to Arizona is because right now he's beating her by.1 percentage points. In 2020, Joe Biden only won Arizona by 0.3 percentage points. 10,000. 0.3 percentage points.

So Arizona is a tough one. And the Latino vote. Yeah. Like, it's really the key vote in that area is the Latino vote. So we're going to have to see what our Latino votes. Do you think that they would have responded positively to the immigration proposals by the Harris-Walls ticket? They went a lot more conservative, right? Yeah, that's what I think. ticket, they went a lot more conservative, right? Yeah, that's what I think.

I think they went a lot more conservative. And we're going to see how it watches out. You know, what I've been hearing so far, and I haven't had the chance, that's why I haven't had the chance to really look at the data. So I want to be real and authentic with what I'm saying. You know, I'm not trying to, like, we've got to deal in truth. If we're going to really take our people to the next level. We got to deal with the truth of it.

And we've got to deal with what's the element of what is happening in this country. Because I do believe there's a larger issue. This ain't about just Trump and Harris. This really is a reflection of where we are as a country. Like, ultimately, there are some people that are saying we're going to die on the sword, right, based on protecting white interests at all costs. Right. Don't care about democracy. We don't care about patriotism. None of that. At the end of the day,

at all costs, we're going to protect white supremacy. This man has insulted every... He's broken every rule that you can break. That's right. He got something greater than white privilege. What do you got? I don't know. I ain't never seen nothing like this. No, no. White privilege will cause a civil war

that the majority of folks don't know. But Donald Trump marginalizes the greatest white men. Donald Trump marginalizes white men that got power, white men that got billions of dollars. They cower to him. I've never seen anything like it. Like, nobody knows how to deal with Donald Trump. Like, we keep saying

he's a threat to democracy. The DOJ didn't treat him like a threat to democracy. The media don't treat him like a threat to democracy. And voters damn sure ain keep saying he's a threat to democracy. The DOJ didn't treat him like a threat to democracy. The media don't treat him like a threat to democracy. And voters damn sure ain't treating him like a threat to democracy. I've never seen anything like it. How many white men have had that? I've never done. That's the only one I've ever seen like this. No, no, no. No, we're

saying that. But historically in this country, we have protected all kind of white men doing all kinds of stuff. Epstein, all of them, that was me. Like, we've got to be... Kennedy, we can go on and on and on in terms of how America protects white men. In our lifetime,

we've seen a different kind of reality, so we had a different expectation. But the structural racism that led... Let me say this. If you protect and support a whole group of people being enslaved, like what else are we supposed to be shocked at what you do? Protecting a Trump?

Hell, they done protected a whole lot of Trumps. But I've also seen... I've also seen them make a lot of those white men deal with the consequences of their actions. I ain't seen him having to deal with the consequences of nothing yet. Well, that's why he running for president. That's my point. He literally is scheduled to be sentenced a couple weeks from now.

I agree. None of that happened. Not if this goes his way. Right. Not if this goes his way. He's not president yet. He still would have to be sworn in. Ain't none of that happening if he won this race.

No, I think it's a danger. Hell, it didn't happen before it was even done. But I think it's a danger to make it seem like he's bigger than life because he's not. The truth of the matter is white people in this country have not felt the threat of losing their position in power. We started here. You're on it. Yeah, they're not just protecting Trump because Trump's a damn superman. They're protecting what he represents.

They're protecting themselves. They're protecting themselves. And so ultimately, if we don't recognize that, and they've always done that, I can go historically on all of the black folks who have been killed and lynched and hung, and nothing happened to them. So we talk about what he did. I'm talking about folks who actually killed our people, and nothing happened to them, that came after us, and nothing happened to them.

So that's not something new. That ain't nothing new in America. Like what we're seeing is a different level of sophistication around it, and we've not seen someone, and we've not seen a level of protecting a candidate in our lifetime, but part of it is because it's not about the candidate. It's about what he represents, and he represents

their position in a way that they're no longer going to be the majority of this country. That's a different ballgame. Well, I maintain that we knew this election was going to be tight, and we know black people show up late for everything. So hopefully. Well, I hope the Latinos in Arizona do too.

Hopefully these black folks show up late because, man. Better late than never. You know what? But it bears repeating, this election's loss or win should not fall on the backs of black folks. Yeah. Because what it would tell me at the end of the day, if we have to go through these numbers, we're going to see that we had a lot of disappointment from white women

if it didn't go the way that we think. Everybody's like, we're going to break this 55%. We might not break 52% of the support from white women. That says a lot. We don't know it for a fact. It says a lot. When I tell you I'm not talking to these hoes, I mean it. I ain't talking to them.

Whoever voted for Trump, these white women voting for Trump, voting against their interests, telling everybody, you're not going to tell us what we're going to do with our own bodies. They literally have voted to uphold an abortion ban or to vote against an abortion, to vote against, well, it's in North Carolina. The abortion ban, they voted against it, the ballot initiative, but it's neck and neck. It was neck and neck with Kamala. They voted for Josh Stein, but it was neck and neck with Kamala. I don't

get it. Let me say this. White privilege is like some high-end cocaine. We don't know. Don't worry about that. No, seriously. We are in denial of how white

privilege, they've never been in a space in this nation that literally they have, like, their protection of every area of society, particularly in terms of the highest offices, they've been protected on that. We are really underestimating, right, how fearful they are of just sharing power. We're not even talking about just sharing power. So ultimately what they're saying, what we're seeing in this moment is that we don't care about any of this

and we will give it all we will burn it all down in order to protect our privilege. So how come the white people like the Merrick Garland of the world didn't go after Trump earlier? He should never have been there. So whose fault is that?

The person who put him there. Which is Biden. Yeah. So why are those, I thought those were supposed to be the good white folks that are supposed to protect democracy. Well, here's what they miscalculated. And uphold democracy. They miscalculated the fact that they picked him to be a safe Supreme Court justice that they would be able to get past. Confirmation.

Republican-controlled Senate. Yes, once Barack Obama nominated him, and I think that there was some nostalgia or something where they thought, oh, we're going to put this safe person here to make them feel like we're reaching out and extending an olive branch. Well, extending an olive branch meant that you put someone as the head of the Department of Justice in the J. Edgar Hoover building that continued the legacy of J. Edgar Hoover. Another thing I learned, because you asked that earlier, Andrew,

about what did we learn over the last year, I learned that a lot of people don't even know Donald Trump does things wrong because he doesn't get treated like he's doing anything wrong. Right, right. I think that's Natasha's point, though, Charlamagne. All the things you said, they were colossal failures. It was a colossal failure by the media to not treat him that way. That's right.

It was a colossal failure by people to not be on the front lines of misinformation and disinformation. When technology was moving faster than policy, it was a colossal failure of, I say, voters for not being more intellectually curious about what's happening. I don't think that elevates Donald Trump. I think it just reflects where we are in society, which is heartbreaking. But I'm still not – I still feel optimistic. We don't know where this is going. I do. We still got a little time.

I do. We still got a little time. And we still – the big states that we're waiting for have not yet been called. And Andrew raised something good. We were all talking, so we didn't hear it. But when you were talking about losing Arizona, Andrew said that he lost, and I put lost in quotes, but lost Florida by 3.3. Point three.

Point three. Point three. Point three. So elections can come down that close and still not go your way. Every vote matters and counts. But, Latasha, you brought home, I think, where we started this show about was really this conversation of white privilege and power and what it will do, how it acts instinctually to protect itself. That's right.

That's right. Like a knee jerk. That's right. Like someone hits your knee and you kick hard. It's been in place for centuries, y'all. It's muscle memory. They don't have to rehearse it, practice for it. It's instinctual that you respond a certain way when your body is attacked.

Your body does the same thing. It races to wherever the intrusion is to kill whatever is coming for you. Act the same way about power. Right. If it's about to be taken from you, you'll do whatever it takes to keep it. Latasha, we were on the phone. We were on the phone chatting, and we were talking about how it feels different to you. And I was saying, but this isn't different.

And I called Angela, or she called one of us. Somehow we were on the phone with each other, and I was telling her that you were saying it feels different. I'm like, this is the same thing that we've always known. And Angela was like, no, it feels different to me too. At the time, you said I need to sit with it right to figure out I just wonder if you've sat with it and if you have anything that you want to share tonight about why it feels different this time and I would put that same question to you Angela like why does it feel different this time when we really have in my opinion we really haven't seen anything new oh I do think we've seen something

new and I do think that is different let Let me be clear. What white behavior does not determine or does not define everybody else's behavior, necessarily. And I'm saying that there is, yes, there is a core group of folk in this country, clearly, that align themselves with racist, misogynist, sexist ideas. That's clear, right? But what I have seen that has been distinctively different, and then I'll talk about the energy of what I'm feeling as well, distinctively different is we saw it different even from the Obama campaign.

In the Obama campaign, it was this charismatic, brilliant brother that everybody kind of coalesced and surrounded around and were excited that he was going to win. What we saw different with Kamala's campaign has been that people have literally, you saw folks really owning their own identity. That was very different. It wasn't just centered around her. You saw the cat ladies, the childless cat ladies, and the white dudes.

There is a coalition. Let me tell you, whether it's this election or not, there is a coalition of people that are building in this country, literally, that the majority is us. Now, whether that's reflected in the box is a different thing. That's why you got voter suppression. That's why you got misinformation and disinformation. If you're just fair game as a majority of them, you ain't got to do all that.

So let's be clear. Does it scare you, Latasha, that we may not know what that electorate might look like? Like the Republican electorate might look totally different and the Democrat electorate might look totally different than what we're used to. What do you mean? Like in the future, like you see Republicans now, they're bringing in more black people, they're bringing in more Latinos. I'm going to have to see these.

Because let me say this, I'm not sure if that's the case. I didn't think so either tonight. No, no, no, not even tonight is not convincing me say this. I'm not sure if that's the case. I didn't think so either tonight. No, no, no. Not even tonight is not convincing me of that. Let me say this because I think that there is. Anytime you bring more people into any process, the vote spread is going to be greater. That's just math. White folks, women, black folks, anytime you're going to have a diversity of a voter spread.

That's just as more people get involved in the process, there's a larger spread. And so I'm not convinced. The other thing is, and we don't want to talk about this because we don't really want to talk about how capitalism works either. And so in capitalism, we have turned America into a big old commercial. It's a big-ass commercial that ultimately everything is about marketing. Everything is about marketing. People are even literally making careers based on just marketing.

And so at the end of the day, what we're seeing is people, I can talk to somebody for five minutes and I can tell you if they read or what network they listen to. It's almost we have dumbed the dumbing down of this nation where people are really not even critical thinkers about things. That they're literally attaching to particular kind of positions because it make them seem cool. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know if y'all saw the thing. Y'all probably even talked about with Waka Flocka. This brother out here, he endorses somebody. He ain't never even voted. Right. Like, you've never even voted. But I understand because at the end of the day, who is it? 205, 230.

205, come on, come on. And I was going to tell y'all, we were having such a profound discussion, but I was going to tell you that we were literally sitting here, and while we were sitting here, Virginia, Washington. Oh, she took Virginia. And Oregon. She took Virginia. Yes.

Washington, Virginia, and Oregon have been called since we've been sitting here. But it was such a profound discussion. I did. So what does that mean, Andrew? Let's say hi. It's a pathway, baby? That's a pathway. Let's say hi. That's a pathway, baby. That's a pathway. That's a pathway.

That's a pathway. Okay. There's always been a pathway. It's a pathway. And it's the same. Yeah. It's the same pathway. It's the same pathway.

Look, Andrew said, damn it, I didn't know, Joe. It's the same. No, I know. I'm saying you told them. I'm saying I'm agreeing with you. So we're still on track. We're still on track. Okay.

Just making sure. If he's like, let me look at this map. Look at it, look at it. It's 25. Just make it short. We need a map of the seat. Angela, I'm curious when you hear LaTosha say why it feels different to her, does that resonate with you?

Is that the same feeling that you have? What resonates with me is this West Coast. This West Coast music. Because you know I'm about to see walk all over this That's what I think, I really do I still feel like I cannot lose hope because You guys don't want to see me there

You don't have to I am refusing to succumb To that It's 2.05, 2.30, I'm not tripping no more Listen, whatever God got planned Gonna happen You better say it 5 to 30, I'm not tripping no more. No more. He said no more. At least you're acknowledging you finally were tripping. Listen, whatever God got planned going to happen, he's the best author and finisher. You better say it. I ride with the VP.

Let me tell you this. Let's see if we can wait until we open the music off. Yes, but Latasha, I want you to. Latasha, you are connected to the most high. I want you to close this out with something good because we know you got to go find some votes. You're not going to find a vote. God's with me right now. Every black grandma in America got God's phone line backed up.

Oh, they better. Oh, they better. I'm clear about that. On the main line, on three day and a half. Before you go there, I do have one question, right? You look at everything online. You look at banking online. We do everything online.

Will it ever get to a point where we can vote online, right? Because today, when I voted today, right? You look at everything online. You look at banking online. We do everything online. Will it ever get to a point where we can vote online, right? Because today when I voted today, right, they didn't even look at my ID. I came up with my little pamphlet that they mailed to me. They scanned it and I voted. Right. So it could have been you. It could have been somebody else. Who knows who Rashawn is? But will it ever get to a point where we're

going to be voting online? It will if we make it be so. The truth of the matter is while we're voting, like standing in line, I can move a million dollars on my cell phone. Why I can't vote? There are people actually that are voting online that are abroad. And so we've got to recognize that there are barriers,

there are intentional barriers, so people don't participate in this process. Because the truth of the matter is all of America is not participating in the process. What I do know for sure is that there are more Americans in my, that I believe, that I run into, that really believe like we, like we believe. Like, ultimately, that is the truth. And so part of what we got to do is we've got to organize, we've got to get people to really be, even the media, the way that the

media has given him a pass, that they have created a false equivalency, like the way that they've had a double standard for her versus him, like all of that has fed into that. They ought to be held accountable as too. So at the end, we've got to do the work. If we want the kind of America that we desire or we want the kind of nation, I always ask people, wherever I go, I usually ask people to close your eyes, and I'll ask them, with your eyes closed, what would this nation

look like? What would America look like without racism? And most of the time, no matter where I go, 99 to 100 percent, 99 percent of the people in the room, I don't care if I'm at a big college. I don't care if I got 10,000 in the audience. I don't care if I got 500. The majority of us have

never asked ourselves this question. Let me tell you, racism ain't my damn inheritance. That is not my, I was not given that. That's not who, that's not what I'm going to take on. Like, that's what I'm supposed to do for the rest of my life. But we, if we're not asking that question and we're not imagining and thinking about what is going to exist beyond that, right, because there was a sister, we getting all bent out of shape

because of the map and all this other stuff. Right, there was a sister named Harriet Tubman that came to the South 19 times with a $50,000 bounty on her head. She believed when nobody else around her believed. I'm one of them. I'm going to believe until they call it. I'm going to believe it. And not just that.

Even when they call it, we've got to recognize we've got more work to do. Yeah. That ultimately we've got more work to do. That racism has shown itself. Yes. It is alive and well in this nation. Trump is a prime example of why we do need DEI. He's a prime example of why we need affirmative action.

He is the evidence of why we need those things. And so instead of backing away from him, we should even push harder on him. So that's where we are in this moment. And right now, you all, just so that we can capture this moment, right now, 49 Senate seats have been called for Republicans,

41 for Democrats, 142 Democratic seats have been called, and 173 for Republicans. Whoever's the quickest to 218, whoever gets to 218 has the majority in the House. And whoever gets to 50, of course, in the Senate, depending on who is elected president. Of course, if it's a tie, if it's 50-50, the tie-breaking vote will go to the president. Pro Tem was the vice president of the United States. LB, we love you. I love y'all, too. Thank you so much. The audience loves you. will go to the president. Pro Tem was the vice president of the United States. LB, we love you.

I love y'all, too. Thank you so much. The audience loves you. I love y'all. Y'all, keep the faith. Listen, them sisters out there, them brothers out there, come on. Let's take it to the floor. Go to the closet.

Go to the closet, y'all. We'll pull this through. We'll pull this through. I think so, too. My grandma will go to the closet. Oh, the prayer club. I thought I was going to get the gun. Oh, no, we do not.

None of us. We're black in America. We do I was going to get the gun. No, we do not. None of us. We're black in America. We do not condone violence on this show. We support self-defense. You said she was scared. Self-defense. We're going to the prayer closet. Self-defense.

We're going to the prayer closet, brother. Are they screaming? What else we get? I don't know. What we do know is these citizens are nip and tuck, as my dad would say. There's something happening. It looks like a synonym. There's something happening.

Tasha, you are my Maya Angelou. I mean, you are just one of the most profound people, and I'm so blessed to know you. And I love every time you come on here and other people get to experience you because she's an experience. Like, I try to say what you said, but the way that you say it is just so compelling. And I love that all these people feel your energy. Like, I feel more joyful having heard what you had to say.

And I really think it's a divine covering. That's what you're on this earth to do. So thank you. Thank you. I appreciate y'all. You can't go nowhere yet. Don't give it. I can't leave yet.

Not yet. Okay, what we got to do? What we got to do? I just, in tribute as well to you and why our community needs more like you, and they exist in families and on college campuses and in neighborhoods everywhere, and certainly in bands, the people who keep the tempo. Right? You know, you got the beat going, but everybody, regardless of what

instrument comes in, what comes out, you're one of the people that keeps us left foot, right foot. Left foot, right foot. And I think we need that so bad. We do. As a community, it doesn't exist in the cult of personality.

It's the spirit. Spirit enters us at different times. And, you know, I'm just glad that it stays resident. That's why we got to believe, y'all. Yeah. We were built for this. Yeah, I agree. We do hard things.

Yeah. We do hard things. So, you know, and you can't control what other people do. All we got to do is make ourselves be a light and do our part. So, you know, we in these streets. We in these streets. We in these streets. Somebody just sent me a message that Democrats are now in favor

of the flip control of the House. Yeah. You know, we in these streets. We in these streets. Somebody just sent me a message that Democrats are now in favor of the flip control of the House. Yeah. You know what? I always thought the Democrats were going to get the House. Yeah. Too many races are not called yet. But I am also going to shout out my state again because Washington State has a blue governor. And Bob Ferguson and Dave Reichert left.

He was saying he was going to flip and support abortion. He was in Congress, as you all know, before. He did not win. So that's a little victory. And then Minnesota is too close to call, which I really don't like. That is where Tim Walz is from. It's too close to call. Now, listen, I'm going to need him to deliver Minnesota.

I'm going to need him to at least deliver Minnesota. I'm going to need him to deliver Minnesota. Now, coach, you better come through. I'm all coach. I need you to come Minnesota. I'm going to need him to deliver Minnesota. Now, coach, you better come through. I'm all coach. I need you to come through. And I think he's a great coach. It will. It will. I never believed in him. I think so, too. I actually believe that. I believe that. I just feel like it's going to happen.

You don't believe that? No, I never believed in Tim Wall. That we're going to win. Oh, really? No, no, no. Oh, really? You know I didn't. I told you. You said you don't believe him. I like him as a person. I like him. I like the family You said you don't believe me. I like him as a family. I like him. I like the family dynamic. I never believed in him.

The good news is it won't matter. Andrew, it's all right. Whatever. Everybody watching, I'm so glad. Welcome to Andrew's Welcome to J5. I'm so glad to get to see you. You know, let me tell you this. You guys, Andrew is so fiery.

They've been fiending, though. Andrew is an asshole, and everybody's going to vote him all the time. He's so shady. No, he's not my brother. I love Andrew. No, no, no, but I'm just saying. I'm coming to shame. I love it, too, but I want to hear this.

I want to hear this. Why? What's this thing about? Why? You prefer Josh Shapiro. What, the wall? Yeah. Really?

I feel like he had a lot of energy when he started, but it just wasn't sustainable. I never really bought into the whole weird phrasing. Oh, I like that. But I knew it was going to turn people off because you can't label people weird. They shouldn't be weird. I mean, these people are weird. They are weird. But it didn't stick. It didn't stick.

But here's the thing. It would have stuck if they would have let up. Right. It would have stuck if they would have stuck his ass back on cable news where we saw him. They should have kept him there, right, in that box. And there's a thing about, I just think there's a thing about watching old white men.

I actually think he was good. Donald Trump is an old white man. He got bodied by J.D. Vance in the debate. I mean, he was nervous. I don't think he got bodied. I don't think it was a good debate, but I wouldn't say he got bodied. He started out very nervous. And the reason he got bodied is because J.D. Vance literally was out there

every Sunday morning on those cable shows taking those hard questions, getting beat up. But they tried to lock him up. I thought he was a good candidate. I really did. It's not over yet, but I do think that he better pull Minnesota. He better damn sure pull Minnesota. Sorry, Trevor, but I'm nervous about this.

And he wasn't for me. He wasn't for us. He was for those white folks. I like him. I just, you know. It was for white comfort, yes. No, no, no. He literally did some.

Let me tell you. They could look up, however, and see a white man. Can I just call a timeout? We have Lauren, who is, I think, at the other camera on the riser. Are we calling her up now? Y'all told me five minutes. Okay, she looks down, so I think that's enough. Okay, and you know what?

There's only five minutes left in the show. Are we calling Lauren in or we're not? We are calling her in? You know, she's been holding up that sign, Lauren, five minutes, and Lolo's name is Lauren, so I'm trying to figure out why she's telling us. She was like, she coming on the show. Come on.

We need to know what's happening so somebody can tell us. I can tell you what's happening. That crowd clearing out. That crowd trying to what's happening. That crowd clearing out. That crowd trying to beat traffic. They are not clearing out. All them people turn around. I must be blind. You all see all them people over behind the wall.

That crowd got thinner than my hairline. You ain't got no hairline. I need directions. Tell us what we're doing. We'll go to Lauren, you said? I still believe. We're going to go to Lauren. I still believe.

We're off air in five minutes. I believe. I believe. We're off in five minutes. We're off in five minutes. Now? She was like, Lauren, five minutes. I'm like, yes, Lauren, I see you.

I bet it says 11.55. I believe you. We all still believe. What would make you be like, all right, now we got to start dealing with reality? No, no, no, not reality. We're dealing with reality now. No, no, no, we're dealing with reality now. But Pennsylvania was shaking.

What you said about Pennsylvania. Okay, okay. It was shaking. Pennsylvania, we got to win it. There's no doubt about it. We can't win this without Michigan. Pennsylvania has to be in the column. She's going to get Michigan.

Has to be in the column. We walk away with those three, I'm good tonight. I agree. Would Shapiro on the ticket have delivered her Pennsylvania? I don't know about that because he comes with other consequences. Wait a minute. If he don't deliver it and he wasn't on the ticket, that says something about him too.

Yeah. He's the governor. So let me be real clear. He better come through, too. I think that's fair. Everybody better come through. I think that's fair. So you expect all Democrat governors to deliver their thing?

Yeah. I do. I expect everybody to come through. That's not to show all. Everybody. Yes. I love that tip. Absolutely.

And the blue wall. Everybody better come through. Absolutely. If you're the governor of that state, deliver it. Yeah. Absolutely. But I also think that the big scheme of it, the vice presidents don't matter. We are not walking in the ballot box and saying, well, that vice president.

I don't agree with that. Really is. The only time I've ever seen a mayor was Sarah Palin. No, it mattered for me with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Okay, so you think you would have voted for Trump? I wouldn't have voted for Trump. You would not have, right? But it still matters. You would not have changed your

vote based off who the vice president is. And my point is, no one does. Can I just say, I want to correct something. There is some disinformation floating in our chat. People are suggesting that DJ Envy is high AF because he is bopping his head to music that isn't playing.

I want y'all to know, y'all cannot hear. Why are you standing up now? I just came back from the bathroom. I was not talking. That's why. But they can't hear. But there's a lot of music playing. And he's a DJ.

And he's a DJ. Things can be true, though. LB, let Mayor Reed come say hi real quick before we leave. He can come here. But then at least that way we have another headset. But I was interested with the music on. Please, King. Go sit down. before we leave. He can come here. But then at least that way we have another headset. How you doing, brother? All right. Please, King.

Go sit down. Come sit down. But this is Mayor. All right. Love y'all. Love you, sister. Yes, we do. But don't go far.

Okay, but we may be far. I was just told the vice president is about to come out. Very good. So before that happens, we're going to invite Mayor Reid on. He is the president of the African American Mayors Association. Just here really quick to say hi to us before we go to Lauren LaRosa, hopefully.

I'm not going in any direction. I don't think we're going to get to Lauren. Sorry, Lauren. I said Lauren and Nicole over there. Well, I think she wanted to. What's up, Mayor Reid? She's partying. She's dancing. Pull your mic up. Always good to be with y'all said Lauren and Nicole over there? Yeah. Well, I think she wanted to, too. What's up, Mary? She partied. She did.

Welcome, man. Pull your mic up. Always good to be with y'all. Good to see you, Mary. How you feeling? Hey, I feel good. I feel good. I expected a long night.

That's what we got right now. What about Alabama didn't come through for Paisley? Because Tiff just told us it was on all of us. What happened to Alabama? Wait a minute. Alabama was done before we got up this morning. I know. Hello. That Alabama? Wait a minute. Alabama was done before we got up this morning. Hello. What's the worst?

I loved his question. Honestly, what would it take? Because everybody always says, I say this all the time, everybody always says the South is red, and I always counter, the South is red until it ain't. And we have seen Georgia turn into a purple state. What would it take in Alabama? You have to have more people move into the state, both black, white, and

brown coming into the state to kind of change the narrative. A reverse migration. Pioneering again. Yeah, you have to have that. That comes from job growth. That comes from people relocating. That helps. Now you can't have Florida, you know, I mean, Florida has gone now red in a way we wouldn't have expected

in a different kind of way. So you don't want that. And now we look at Ohio places that... Well, it's the capital of white supremacy increasingly. Our migration has been of folks leaving Ohio who may have been law enforcement officers to go back to one of y'all shows that y'all did with Byron where he said

we see all the law enforcement coming to Florida because they see an embracing. No, they saw immunity from prosecution for anything that they do in the pursuit of their job. And now they're protected. So really quick, our show is actually technically off air, going off air. But we started a few minutes late, and we have Breakfast Club host Lauren LaRosa, who is ready to go live from the riser.

So we're going to her now? All right. We're cutting to Lauren now. Can we hear her? We should be able to hear her. Lauren! Lauren, where you at? Lauren, can you hear us? Lauren, you there? I can hear them. Hey! How's it feeling over there, Lauren?

Wait, can you guys hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you. How's it feeling over there? Let me tell you. Okay, so first of all, I heard Charlamagne say that the crowd was clearing out. That is not true. Exactly. They're excited. They're literally stuck like blue.

The way that we were up there where we were like kind of sitting on the edge of our seats like, oh, my God, what's about to happen? What's about to happen? That's what's happening down here. When you hear them yell, it's any wind in blue, especially Kamala, of course. When they get quiet, it's not good news. But no one's going anywhere. I think one thing that is worth pointing out, too, is even when they bring CNN on the screen,

everyone's watching the smaller, lower screens in any small wins. Like when she won Washington, that wasn't on the big screen. It was on the lower third. And people started yelling. I'm like, why is everybody so excited? They are literally glued to their, I would say their seats, but they're standing up. And I think that Kamala may be, like, I'm starting

to see people near her stage. Yeah, they said she's coming up soon. That's right. She's coming up soon. It's really close down here, y'all. It's the same way that we were up there, but it's like a group thing down here. Yeah. We love it. Well, thank you, Lauren, for being there for us.

And y'all, I think you know that we are officially done with our coverage. Well, Charlamagne walked off set. Oh, yeah, that's true. So maybe we should wait. Well, thank you guys so much. We got to do the breakfast club in the morning. So we're leaving here, taking a nap, and then we're going straight to the station to finish this off.

Man, I'm so glad. I appreciate it so much. We're going to do it from D.C.. Man, I'm so glad. I appreciate it so much. We're going to do it from D.C. Oh, good. So thank you guys for having me so much. We've been up since 4 a.m. So we haven't slept at all. Thanks for the invite.

Really appreciate it. Angela, if I called me, I wasn't going to come out. I was like, I'll broadcast from the city. And she said, you better bring your ass down here. Get down here. What you need is going to happen. Let me tell the truth. The truth is he actually talked to their team last week

and said that this is something that they absolutely shouldn't miss. So thank you so much for the way that you guys have engaged in political discourse, opening up this space for so many folks who look like us, black and brown folks. And it's just a joy. So thank y'all for being a fan. Thank you so much. This was like a homecoming, a big family. It was great to see everything.

Music was great, and just talking politics was wonderful. Like I said, we've been up since 4 o'clock, so I am tired. We're right behind you. There's no drinks here, so we just had some water. I'm about to go to sleep taking that, but thank you guys for having me. Hey. All right, brother. Oh, wait, here's Lenard.

Lenard, do you want to do something? We're wrapping up, buddy. Party words? Because you left when we were in the meeting. And DJ Envy said really profound things. My parting words are God is the best author and finisher. All right. So you niggas don't lose hope. Keep hope alive.

Keep hope alive. That's the new Reverend Jackson. Keep hope alive. Regents. Mayor, say goodbye to the people before we sign off. Give them encouragement. Listen, I'll just say this. Thanks for all the work y'all have been doing this entire season.

Appreciate what you guys do in the Breakfast Club. Big fan there for everybody. It's going to be a long night. It's going to be the next couple of days. A couple of days. It's not over. That's my closing remark, Mayor. It's not over.

It's not over. And, Mr. Mayor, you did not say Native Land Pod. You said the Breakfast Club. You just said the Breakfast Club. It's Breakfast Club and Native Land Pod. I said both. No, he didn't. No, I did not say Native Land Pod. You said the Breakfast Club. You just said the Breakfast Club. It's Breakfast Club and Native Land Pod. I said both. No, he didn't. No, I said y'all's names.

We will run the tape back. Oh, y'all going to tape back on me? Yeah. Okay. But not tonight. Oh, not tonight. We're getting ready to receive, I think, possibly our president. I'm going to stay here and watch KDH.

Well, there are zero days until Election Day. We're here. We're here. We actually technically today after Election Day on the East Coast, but on the West Coast some states are still being called. We're mostly waiting on Nevada. So y'all stay tuned

and we'll be back soon. Welcome home, y'all. Welcome home, y'all. Thanks for rolling with us. Shout out to the Breakfast Club. Shout out to our whole production team. Shout out to our partners this season. We brought it home this season. Yay. Shout out to our whole production team. Shout out to our partners this season. Lauren. We brought it home this season. Yay. Shout out Thea.

One time for Thea Mitchell. Lauren, Aniston, Nick, Carter, Dylan. Be safe, everybody. Thank you guys so much. Lolo, all the girls from PDP. God bless. Yes, God bless you and your family. We out.

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